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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
To usc troupe, longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Dan matthewscuse, this is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 5 (00:23):
Here's the two one for Siton. Swing it.

Speaker 6 (00:26):
It's down the third baseline, base in and it rolled
to the border. The Astros take the lead on extra
basis for cam Smith.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
He's racing for third long throw in. Say a triple
for cam Smith.

Speaker 7 (00:42):
The two brown ball right at payin you goes the
second for one Rogers the first double play just what
the doctor ordered for the Astros, and we go to
the twelfth Astros one Mariners won.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Here comes the one to Carteni.

Speaker 6 (01:00):
Here's the pitch curveball and that's through the left side.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Going with it, Carrotini.

Speaker 6 (01:05):
Another curveball and he steered it through the left side
of the infield and the Astros take the lead two
to one.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Carrotini with the magic one. There. Here's the two to
two Okert fastball, got eam strike three and the Astros
win it.

Speaker 6 (01:23):
Ocher comes in and slams the door and the Astros
win the second game of this series RBI single by Carrotini.
Cam Smith with his first RBI this season. Ryan Gusto
gets his first win as a major leaguer and the
Astros get to go home happy tonight. Twelve innings and

(01:44):
they win this game two to one.

Speaker 8 (01:46):
Yeah, while you were asleep, the Astros finding a way
to get it done in twelve innings last night, beating
the Mariners two to one, and Cam Smith first RBI
of his career, a triple to the left hustle and triple.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Man, I love to see that.

Speaker 8 (02:02):
You also love to see You would hope to not
get to the eleventh inning, but young Ryan Gusto where
zero margin for error. Guy gets over to third base
and the infield is in, runners on the corners and
a ball right to Jeremy Panion. Instead of trying to
get Julio Rodriguez at the plate, he says, hey, let's
get two here, and they get two. Then Victor Carrottini,

(02:23):
the hero with the bats in the twelfth and oh hey,
what a novel concept. Steven Okert in the twelfth inning
works a scoreless frame, getting a couple of strikeouts in
the ball game.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah it was good man. It was a late night obviously,
get to a certain point we going and wake up
early and watch what you didn't get to see. But Carotene,
he's been clutch since he's been here. They Fromber looked
like Fromber again. You know, you keep the ball in
the ballpark, you give what six strong innings and strikeout eight?
He was really good anytime that you can get to

(02:57):
in that ball. A lot of different bodies used last
night and hater what two more innings. That's back to
back times. He's gone at least two of the last
three or four days where he's gone two innings where
he's had to give you a couple of them and
then to be resilient enough on the road to take
care of their business and get the clutch hit and
double plays a pitcher's best friend. So it was nice
and bullpen did their job and here we are and

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you don't want to overwork them. But from Or got
you six, and it's here worship when a guy gets
you six in Major league baseball, So good on him.
He looked again like a guy who should be at
the front of the rotation.

Speaker 8 (03:29):
And that's you know, getting back to Gusto too. Although
I mean I heard Joe Spotto calmed Gusto. I hear
the TV guys and radio guys call him Gusto. But anyway,
it's besides the point. I mean, like I said, I mean,
you've got zero margin for er. Right there, a little
bleeder gets through. Mariners win that ballgame. First pitch of
the eleventh inning from Ryan Gusto, right down the middle,

(03:50):
just going right at the hitter, just saying, hey, you
know what, if I'm gonna get beat, I'm gonna get
beat by you beating me. I'm not going to beat
myself here and try to nibble on corners and do
all these things. That's a guy sean that the moment's
not too big for him. He's ready to go. And
I mean the other day, I understand, you know it
was a game that was completely away from you, but
he gives you three very quality innings out of the bullpen.

(04:13):
I mean, it seems like he's a guy that the
phone rings, he goes out there, he gets the job done.
And uh oh, by the way, this seventh inning last night,
if Joe A. Spotta could have a do over. Let
me tell you who I'm putting in there for quote
unquote right handed on right handed matchups.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Right now, I'm putting Ryan Gusto in Yeah, he's pretty
impressive man and a guy. It's one thing we talk
about and comes highly regarded and all that. But it's
performance under pressure. I love it. And it appears that
the guy could close you out at the end as
we know it, I mean, meaning to be able to
He got the win last night. I think right, he

(04:47):
got to win to give you a a solid performance again.
But the versatility of him, Hell, where can't you put
him in? Watch him where? I mean it, he's not
locked in and we're trying to figure out in seventh
any who's that guy going to be on a regular basis?
And you know who eight and nine are and well
yesterday it was eight, nine, ten, eleven. Got to get

(05:09):
to twelve and take care of it. So, but Gusto
gets a win, it won't be his last one. But
whether it's Bullpen or some time when he's you know,
a guy in your starting rotation whenever that is the
bottom line is that he doesn't care about the role
and he's taking care of his business. And all the
way from spring to now, every single time his name
has come up, there's never been yeah but behind it.

(05:32):
And so when it comes from the experts it comes,
but talk talk talk about the performance. Okay, spring training.
Everybody wants to know the guy comes right in here
and is doing his thing. So I would imagine for
Joe a spot of the versatility of him and the
ability to doesn't matter, go do it and then perform it.
It's hard to find a lot of times early in
the season for some, but he is. He is performing
at a time when they're going to need him all

(05:54):
year long. Considering and you know, as you do well,
you may be here and it may be somewhere in
the seventh and maybe starting it, maybe winning a game
later on in a game, and you know, you didn't
know when your performance was gonna come or when your
opportunity was gonna come again. But the guy has just
been spectacular at least early in the season and came
that way regard as spring training.

Speaker 8 (06:13):
Here we are keyboard Warriors. Were after Joe Spotta last
night too. Seventh inning, you give up the lead after
you just took the lead on the camp Smith RBI triple,
and Joe Spotta decides in the seventh inning that's Taylor
Scott time. And I'm again watching it on TV before
nodding off and going to sleep, and Jeff Blum mentions, oh,
this might be a chance to get Taylor Scott's confidence up. Sean,

(06:34):
I'm in a one run game. I don't need to
get a guy's confidence up. I need to win a
ball game. Let him work it out when you're up
five to you know, five to two against somebody at
that spot.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
But maybe they feel a little different about him than you.
Maybe they feel like he's doing his thing, that he's
it's not a mechanical effect or. And we've seen this
happen here in the past. We see it with Joe Spot,
I saw with Dusty Baker. They latch onto somebody they
believe in and they're gonna let him play it on
the field. And now that's a novel concept. Every time
a guy, I mean, we are, you know, a dozen

(07:06):
games or whatever it is into the season and we're
already looking for a seventh inning guy. After the performance
he gave last year was pretty impressive. So I understand
what have you done for me lately? League, But I
do so I know this from a distance. We have
a different opinion on certain things. But once again, when
guys are there every day, like Joe A spotts, seeing, listening, hearing,

(07:29):
watching bullpen sessions, watching mechanics on the mount, and listening
to Dow he reacts when he comes in the deck out,
all those things that go on with with a manager understanding,
I would think they got a pretty good idea of
we still like this guy, this is not who he is,
or the struggles he'll pitch through him, that they trust
him to do it. I just don't think you can
crap can anybody who struggles early. We don't do it

(07:51):
to a hitter, and why would we do it to
a pitcher, especially somebody that they obviously believe in it
at times? Last year bail jass out and was outstanding.
So I get it, and I understand the search, But
when better to build? You an't build anybody's confidence putting
him in a five to one game and he gets
two out so groundball, strike out in another out, that's
not confidence because that's supposed to happen. I kind of

(08:13):
do agree that let's throw him in there and see,
because if we can't find out who he is to
us now, how we gonna know later when it really
even matters, we can overcome Game twelve or whatever it
is In the beginning of the season, can't overcome the
last twelve when he's going through a losing streak at three.
There is a method to the madness about getting somebody
back into and we've seen it with relievers that shifts

(08:34):
on a dime. Those guys one day, I mean, they're
the reliever's mind is like my OCD. It's like one
day that. I mean, they're trying to lock in every
day and one bat or two bad or before he
could be a good pitch guy hits the line drive
away on an out on of pitch that's outside the
strike zone, and we come with he blew the save.
And a guy went and chased a pitch and smoked

(08:54):
it the right field and put the bat on it
and drives in a run and beats a pitcher. I mean,
it happens. And so I think we're way too early
to stop the Scott train and have him get off.
But I understand the reality of well, you put him
in a game like that, but if you the confidence
in the game, that's the point that I'm making. He's

(09:16):
telling you why he put him in Bloom when Blood
was a blum who said it. He's telling him why Obviously,
why he believes this is because the confidence and the
timing he put him in is literally too there's a
collateral damage, either good or bad. There's an effect that
pushes forward for Scott in this because if he goes
and does his thing and it's like okay, under duress

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in a high leverage situation needed him and he pulled through.
And truth is, if they put a quarterback in a
game when you're up four touchdowns in the fourth quarter
and you throw a touchdown pass and you win by
five touchdowns, I don't think my confidence has risen because
the game was done. But in these situations, when it's
high leverage, that's how you gain it because then you

(09:59):
go back to trusting yourself. So I think there's a
method to the madness. Hopefully we won't be having this
conversation in June, but if we are, then by that
time somebody else will be in that role. But I
do get early on and fiercely loyal. Has been a
spot of Dusty Baker was the same way, and then
there are certain guys when they don't like him. I
think it was Dusty wasn't a big standic fan, right,

(10:21):
I mean, I think he's Yeah, I'm talking about at
least the way it appeared by appearances in certain situations. Right,
that's what people's perception, whether it's true or not. It doesn't.
And you know, Dusty had guys he did love, right,
saying we all do and that you trust or that
you believe are going to pay dividends for you if
you show them early. On the psychology of it and

(10:42):
the psychological part of it. I think Joe A. Spot
probably understands what his player needs a little more than
we do from a distance. But I do get the frustration.
But it's called frustration and relief pictures. It's redundant. You're
always going to be frustrated or uptight about him because
it's part of the job. And I think that's it.
I think we're too early to, uh say, Scott's a

(11:04):
guy in the fifth inning and we got to maybe
move him around. I think we're way too early for that.

Speaker 8 (11:09):
Well, it's not I'm not talking about it from being
a permanent status, but I mean, you know, we're talking
about building up guy's confidence, all right, what about Steven Oker?

Speaker 2 (11:18):
What about Ryan Gusto? Guys who you have put into
situations and sometimes tough situations. They've done nothing but perform
for you. Why why aren't those guys getting there? Well,
let me ask you it is you just said build confidence.
If those two guys are pitching where they are and confident,
does he need to put his arm around him and
keep it up? I mean they're probate. You don't need
to uh have validation and you know from from others

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all the time. They're doing their job. And right now,
so who are you more worried about right now? You
just said it with your thing? Who do you trust more?
The other two guys are Scott right now?

Speaker 5 (11:49):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I trust the other two guys. Okay, so their confidence
is rolling pretty good right now. So what does it make.
I'll reward him when the time comes. But they're still
doing their thing. Gusto did his thing with the win
last night. Those guys are doing their thing in the
role they're in now. At some point they usually define themselves,
and the way you define a role is by performance.
If cam Smith hits won forty five this year, by

(12:09):
the All Star break, he'll be playing right field or
third base in the minor leagues. You see the energy
last night and why they put him in and I'd
like to see him play every day. Boom turns a
double into a triple just by flat out hustling taking
care of his business. So it's the same thing here,
you answer, why aren't they? We don't need to reward it.
This isn't Junior high an American society and people the

(12:32):
suburbs of Let's reward a guy because he did his
job one day or two days, or it's twelve games in.
Just as quick as I ain't putting Ryan Gusto in
the Hall of Fame, I'm not sending Scott to the
minor leagues and saying you're no good. I think the
confidence factor is important. So to answer your question as
to why, well, what good would it be if you've
got a guy who's confident? Just keep giving him. The

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one guy who obviously appears from a vantage point that
need that confidence to get back going to see who
you are? Is Scott right now? And so why wouldn't
you put him in those situations? I got an news
for if he blows five leverage situations in a row,
he won't be pitching in that situation. The performance is
going to dictate it, not us, you know, standing from here,
in a radio show or Twitter telling us I get

(13:16):
him out because he's had some struggles. And I do
believe there's a method of the madness. And I also believe,
having been coached and coached both, there comes a point
in time when things are going good, kick a guy
in the ass. When things are going bad, put your
arm around him, and maybe the guy needs one performance.
But why do we want why do we let players
get players get away with oh it's early, but pitchers,

(13:38):
we don't want to let him get away with oh
it's early. I think it's way too early to pull
the plug on him. He did too much for this
ball club last year. He should get an opportunity to
play through it, especially now.

Speaker 8 (13:49):
And there's much more to talk about on that, and
we'll do that here as the show goes along. Today,
also to yesterday, the Astros sending away Rafael Montero in
a trade to the Braves, sending cash as well and
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Speaker 8 (15:29):
And Jayshawn Tates and a bunch of the Stay Ready crew,
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seven ninety By the way to Shawn nine thirty. Today
Wednesday our day rol weekly visit with Dana Brown. It
seems like it's very popular to, you know, talk about

(15:49):
the moves. The astros haven't made the money, they haven't
spent whatever. It might be permission to throw some flowers
at at Dana Brown for the job that he's done,
because I don't think enough people have done that, because
I mean, you know, last year, you spend the money
on Josh Hater and at the time it's not looking good,
it's looking like, hey, we spent the wrong money here

(16:10):
yet again. And this is a guy who is not
what he was in Milwaukee or in San Diego this year,
Where would you be without Josh Hater And especially last
night an eleven pitch first inning of his outing and
then he's equally as efficient in the second inning of it.
You had in Brendan Rodgers, you had in Steven Okert.
I mean, look, I know I just talked about Taylor Scott,

(16:31):
but a guy like Taylor Scott sean this team is
winning because of things being done on the fly by
Dana Brown.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
I don't know what the problem is with people have
a problem with Dana Brown. They made the decision last year. Now,
in the long term, the trade he made to bring
the guy from Toronto here left Handerkuci, Yeah, Kakuci is
now an angel. Brought him here. He was masterful here,

(16:58):
And I know you had to change three get rid
of three people that you that they are going to
be good future. So in the long run the trades
is going to benefit Toronto. It just will. But in
the short term, if youre going to sign him again
what they needed last year for the timing of it
was a great move and when it first was made,
we all kind of looked at he is that too?
Much to give up. It turned out that it would

(17:18):
have been nice to re sign Kakuchi, but it just
I mean that happened quickly into free agency as well.
So I think Dana Brown's been outstanding. No matter what
you do here, even though you're the guy after the
guy that Jeff Luno is always going to be the
measuring stick for people who get the GM job. Even
if you do well, you can go to Indianapolis and

(17:40):
play quarterback after Peyton Manning go to eight Pro Bowls,
You're never going to be Peyton Manning. It's the same
thing here and maybe Dana Brown will. But the hang
up with a J. Hinch and Jeff Luno here and
I understand why is they're just it's like the people's
love for Juli Guriel Christian Walker at forty this year,
it's still well, should we bring Ulie back? I mean,

(18:02):
you'll still get that, and I understand it. So you
can't win for losing. No matter what Dana Brown does,
it's gonna be compared to Luno. And oh and one
move like a Montero who the contract was not a
Dana Brown contract. If we recall that, if there's a
move like that or getting rid of Kyle Tucker. Now

(18:23):
he's a National League Player of the Week. Well, is
it gonna work? Wesnsky's gonna be good, Paradius is doing
his job, and Cam Smith looks to be like he's
gonna be a star in the league. It's gonna take time.
You don't judge them like an NFL draft the next year.
You judge it two, three, four years down the road.
So I think Dana Brown's made some fantastic moves. Not
all of them are gonna work. And they don't all

(18:44):
work in LA. They don't all work in New York,
they don't all work in Philly. They don't all work. Okay,
but uh, I tease a hell of a talent evaluator.
And I know see what happens when they go on
and say read the back of the baseball card. People
judge like some of the decisions by the fact it, Hey,
it's a long season. But he said, it's a long season.
But the last two years, and you know what, when
they struggled, they've come back out of it and been

(19:05):
right there to win a division. So he's right, we
get more impatient. He's got to stay the course. We
don't have to because we're media and we're fans every day.
He can't just all of a sudden after three days
say you know what a mistake that was. You got
to let it play out. They realize that Montero no
longer is bringing what they thought they were going to get,
and you move him. So and there's some small I mean,

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Christian walkermaned it being a monster move in this offseason.
So yes, but it's a thankless job. It's a thankless job.
People still aren't over David Cully when it comes to
Nick Cassario, and now he's got the right coach. Sometimes
you got to sludge through some stuff to get to
the guy who's going to lead your your building, or
your team or your business. So I don't I just
when when people are critical, guy strikes out and it's

(19:49):
Danon Brown's fault. I mean, now, if you brought in
a hack, and you know, I think that like when
you kept to bray you too long, and there's circumstances
to go with it, kept to bray you too long,
you know, it falls on Dana Brown. When Dana wasn't
the one who brought him in the first place, if
you recall, wasn't that the Jeff bagwell so and so
it doesn't really matter. It's just that they just heap

(20:13):
it on him. But it's you know, sometimes when a
guy struggles, I get it, you make moves or you
miss out on moves. A lot of times it's things
you didn't do that people wish you would have gone
out and done. Get a center fielder when you know,
after all these years and we need another outfield or
getting what are we going to do for power? Why
is aut two big playing left? But some of them
are not just Dana Brown decisions. They are also you know,
Joe A. Spotta and Jim Crane decisions. So when it

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comes to the big money, that's not a Dana Brown
decision to keep Kyle Tucker. Sure they wanted Kyle Tucker.
When it comes to where the money's going to end
up being, it was just priced out here in Houston.
So I think he's done more good than he has mistakes.
You're going to make him along the way. I think
Danta Brown deserves a ton of credit and has done
a hell of a job as a GM, especially in

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his first time role as being a GM. You said
Joe A.

Speaker 8 (20:58):
Spotta, who was the other guy in terms of you
mentioning with decisions, because you'd also mentioned, you know, with
the Texans, Nick Cassario, Jim Crane. And the point that
I'm bringing up here is sometimes you have marching orders.
I mean, with a bray you. I understand what Dana
Brown was charged with. I guarantee you probably off the air. Dana,
what do you think about Jose No, we're really concerned.
I don't think this is going to work out. I

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really truly believe that's what you would have heard.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Well.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
He also who's the one who said on this show
that he felt that Jiner Diaz was the future catcher
here when Maldonada was playing and Diaz was platooning with him,
and there was a guy in the minor leagues who
was supposed to be the heir apparent named Corey Lee,
and he came out here and said it, and everybody,
look what. A couple months later, Corey Lee's playing somewhere

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else and he had no problem doing it. And right
now the struggles are we okay? Are we now looking
at him and saying, what a horrible decision by Dana
Brown to keep yanar Ds instead of Corey Lee? Are
we there because he struggled in the first dozen games
of the season after what he did in a full
body of work last ye some would say, right now, yeah,
well it's wrong because it goes. If that's the case,

(22:04):
Bregman would have been cut twenty seven times as an astro.
They would have dfaate him twenty because if you just go,
let's let's judge Bregman by April, not in Fenway now
this year he's out of his mind. But here we
would have said, oh, it's time to move on to
guy's a bust. And then you wait and then all
of a sudden May hits, and then June hits, and
you got a guy who does all he does, so
it's it'd be silly. So right now you're saying, man,

(22:27):
the Corey leeuld be great or somebody, I'm sure there's
some bring Maldy back, Okay, but y or start Victor
Krottini every day that's coming. That's already there, show that
that's common. So is Dana Brown. Are we saying it
was a blown decision by Dana Brown to move Corey
Lee and make Yaner d as a future No. Last year,
everybody in this town was saying this is a cleanup

(22:48):
hitter of your five hitter is going to be an
All Star for eight years, ten years. That that's what
people were saying. So well, it's i'll use their term,
it's early.

Speaker 8 (22:56):
Well it's also too to your point about Yiner, I mean,
if for the longest time it didn't seem like it
was a Dana thing, it seemed like it was a
dusty thing, and he wanted Martin Maldonado out.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
There, much like managing the pitching staff, get it, not
the bat Nobody, nobody that even has watched a game
of baseball would have thought you'd keep Maldonado in because
of plate production. Sitting behind the plate, yeah, standing next
to it.

Speaker 8 (23:20):
No, it's kind of like you know, we talked about
every week with Steve Sparks, and I mean he's adamant
that Jake Myers is as a matter of fact, he
said it a couple of days ago with us, and
then last night in the first inning, you see what
Jake Myers and his value is out there. But no,
I mean, I mean, look, you know, sometimes it's decisions
that aren't your control, but when it comes to just

(23:40):
overall trying to keep this thing competitive. I really just
cannot understand the people who are against the job that
Dana Brown has done because I think most of the
moves he's made, like Steven Okert last night, see somebody
on Twitter, what a fined by Dana Brown.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Well, that's his job, so he's supposed to do. Dana
Brown's built his chops is a talent evaluator, a scout.
He knows talent. Now they got to perform when he
gets here in the GM role. There's a lot of
other things that come along with it. Yeah, it is.
It'll play itself out. And Dana Brown's done a nice job.
And you know what the thing about it is general

(24:17):
manager's role is not to please you and me. It's
to make sure he puts the best people on the
on the ball field and to give Joe a spot
of the best opportunity to compete and the players. But
it's not all every single day going to look like
we'd like it to look, and it didn't look every
day like he'd like it to look. But it's part
of building culture and building the team. And hence the

(24:37):
one hundred and sixty two game schedule. So if we
played twelve twenty seven games, be concerned about yan or
d Is and some of the other things. We don't
play twenty seven games. So I think I think Dana
Brown's proven that the general manager job that was given
him was right and when it given him, that he earned.
But it was given to him as opposed to anybody
else that interviewed for it, and I think it's going

(24:58):
to pay dividends for them. Remember, he does have a
ceiling on where he's allowed to go, not with his
talent or his ability. The ceiling is you can be
great if even with Jordan, Let's say next contract comes
up and it's people are talking the big, big, big money.
There's a chance he'll be playing somewhere else. You do

(25:19):
know this, Uh huh, So how's that, Dan Bright? If
there's a certain limit where you got to go, you know, oh,
here's this Now all of a sudden you that there's
there's this money and now we get to another level
where this is rarefied. You get to you have to
prove with the guy who signs him. And so there
is a limit on Oh you just it's not the
Dodgers where they've opened it up and they've opened the

(25:40):
skies and said do you spend as much money as
you want, but you better win a championship. Here. It's
to a point, but then that limit stops, and you
better find some talent underneath the three hundred and forty
fifty million dollars a year. Guy. And they've been fortunate
to do it for quite some time, Yes, they have
worth noting.

Speaker 8 (25:57):
Two to three hours from now right on the dot,
Dana gonna be joined us here for his weekly visits.
All right, coming up next, continue the Astros conversation. And
if this part is not here right now, well you
know we're seeing it still a good thing. We'll talk
about that here as we continue on here in the
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Uh, Sean, it's it's gonna go ahead and happen during
one of these breaks. I am going to go ahead
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I'm going to download the Masters app so we can
watch Raffie, Afy, Barnerrat and whoever else goes off tomorrow
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(27:38):
that's one thousand to one is the leader right now
at the Masters. People, of course never know. You never
know when it's going to be Zach Johnson or Mike Weir.
I never you never know, No, you don't. And as
a matter of fact, a couple of hours from now,
we're going to do our picks five apiece, right now,
what you told me?

Speaker 2 (27:56):
We're going to do that? Sure?

Speaker 8 (27:57):
Yeah, for five each, five each? All right, five of us.
And I've already got my short list. I've got my
draft board built up here. Well, as a rookie to
this show, you pick second. Oh, it's fine, you just
just so you know, you pick second, and we don't
go around and wrap around.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
You just pick second. It's like the draft the second round.
You pick second until you beat me. And that's never
happened on the majors on this show. Really Yeah, well
one time, I take that back, I think one time,
one time, three one major. Brian's still sleep. So but
that's a fact. I'm owed like forty seven breakfasts here.
So when it comes to picking golf, you you've got

(28:34):
probably no shot in this one. But we'll give you
a chance. Since you are picking second, we'll give you
a chance. But until you win, you don't get to
pick first. You smell that, Yeah, do you smell that?
You mean the fact that, yeah, burnt rubber, you're getting
your ass kicked and left in the dust.

Speaker 8 (28:51):
Well, I mean, you know that could be that very well,
could be the conclusion here. But I show up, Oh yeah,
I smell a challenge. That's that's don't ever throw the
gauntlet down, brother, if you're not prepared.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Got off the tracks, the trains coming through, talking to
the wrong guy. Man, talking to the wrong guy. Always
prepared for that. So bring whatever you think you got
with your pick.

Speaker 8 (29:11):
And Sean Tripoli is almost like the guy in the
grocery store. You got the wrong guy, bud. Yeah that's it.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, wrong guy, wrong boat buddy. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (29:21):
Anyway, all right, so we're gonna do that here, coming
up in a couple hours, you know, Sean, just to
continue the Astros conversation. They're still not hitting, but I
mean we touched on a little bit in the first segment.
The good news is the guys, you know in the
starting rotation, the last couple of games you get Monday night.
I know most of us weren't watching it at the time,
but Hayden was Nesky goes out there does a hell

(29:43):
of a job, and you're like, Okay, hey, Dana, I
see you working there. I see, I see what you
liked about this guy. And then last night you get
fromber being fromber where we expect him to go out
there and get ground ball outs and be able to
get you a quality outing. And then today you get
Hunter Brown. But I mean for some of the other
guys in the ball I mean numerous chances last night.
And oh, by the way too, I had even texted

(30:04):
Blummer after a couple of plays and Ed said, I mean, seriously,
do the Mariners have lucky rabbits foots like just you know,
on them on their person at all times, because some
of these plays they're making defensively, it is so many.
Look what I found plays that you're just like, come on, man,
it's called preparing.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Brother. The Mariner is a good team. Anytime you can
go into their building and take care of them. A
lot of people had them, well they had it. It
was the Texas Rangers, at least some of these so
called experts across the country. Texas Rangers, Mariners and the
ass was all what within two or three games of
each other, and the Rangers is the favorite in most places.

(30:43):
But they can pitch, they do play defense, and last
year some superstar bats let them down and they went
through it, and they helped the Astros on their road
because they when they were twelve and twenty four and
then in the middle of the season they went through
some struggles that allowed the Astros to chase them down.
With Astros good baseball. So yeah, they're making some good decisions.

(31:05):
And right now, I'll tell you this, at some point
in time, they are going to hit consistently. They just will.
But anytime you can go literally steal one and extra
innings on the road using a bunch of bullpen guys
and getting six innings out of your starter with eight
strikeouts and giving up, you know what, a couple hits,

(31:26):
that's a good thing. I'd far more worry even though
the strength of this team, in my mind is pitching.
I would worry far more if we were into this
season right now, record different, you know, a few more losses.
I'd feel far different if it was our starting pitching
can't get out of the third or fourth inning. That
would start to bother me. And then you start be

(31:47):
why because then the collateral effect and damage of happen
to tax a bullpen early and then move on to
the next Normally, pitchers are ahead of hitting normally at
this time, at this point in time, they just are.
Now you don't go. Pitchers are little head hitters are
still feeling their way out first time through during a season,

(32:07):
and then the pitcher's settling. So I'd worry far more.
I know that there's changes in Kyle Tucker and Bregman
are gone and all that, but they've got some professionals
on this team that have proven in their past here
and elsewhere they can hit. You should be excited because
the guy in centerfield is actually putting the bat on
the ball, which tells me that's got to be a
good omen. If he's hitting well, it can't be that

(32:31):
he hits two sixty five and nobody else hits two fifty.
Al Tuovey's raking at the top in a new position
for the most part, not at the top, but you
know it's not affecting whatever's going on when he plays
in left field. He's still raking. Jordan's long ball hasn't
started to come up, but it will. I told you
a million times not worried about him. You're starting to
see some guys get going. Rogers will get going. He's

(32:53):
been a really good hitter in his career, whether it's
at Colorado or night. You still got to put the
bat And nothing about the air in Colorado that puts
the barrel of the bat on the ball. Okay, more
space to hit it, but you still got to put
the barrel of the bat on it, or wherever it
is that you get your singles and doubles and hits from.
So I am honestly, and there's no way Yina and

(33:14):
Paena hit like this the rest of the year. There's
no friggin way. And they're sacking there. They're surviving with
good pitching and getting some clutch wins that come from
behind and then you know, doing their thing and then
having to you know, then get and beat and then
having to come from you know, take care of their
business in another low scoring game. So pitching is thriving.

(33:34):
The hitting. There's no way Diaz Painia and even with
Jordon's lack of power right now, I can't imagine that
we're having this same conversation at the end of this
month or sometime in the middle of May. So surviving
and sometimes you got to survive stints where like, what's
the hell's going on with our other guys Florida in
the National Championship game, What's the hell's going on with

(33:56):
Clayton can't get a shot off? And they still hang
around the are doing their thing, and the big boppers
haven't got started yet. So I believe hitting will come
right now. God forbid that it's runners in scoring positions
a problem at the midway point of the season, and
we're still having that conversation. But I don't think we'll
be having the same conversation we're having now or that

(34:17):
we had last year at that time about why are
so many runners stranded? At some point in time, your
big boppers are going to get hot, stay healthy pitching,
stay in these games that you're not exploding, and then
when you do explode, then it's then then you get
a little bit of relief because the bullpen doesn't get taxed.

Speaker 8 (34:35):
Oh, by the way, the twelve inning last night, one
of your favorite plays happened. Chas McCormick leading off the
inning with the runner on second, laid one down and
what happened now they ended up scoring the go ahead run.
Louder So the people in the they ended up scoring
the go ahead. Okay, fine, you're right, so.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Every now and then, now what you want, That's exactly
what I want, because especially with the who the last year,
if a ball was four feet outside, try to hit
it over the left field wall, and who the year
before was punch it the other way. Smart decision by
the manager, good job by the player, and lo and

(35:17):
behold small ball. Two games in a row they've been
able to lay a bunt down and it's paid off
for them, and it also paid off for the team
that beat them the night before. I'm not a bunting guy,
but I am a bunting guy when it matters. I
don't care if it's you walk a guy you, but

(35:37):
I got to move people over. With first base open,
you got to or your first get him to second
so he's in scoring position. Second, get him to third.
Every now and again, that's just good smart baseball. Something
that Joe A. Spota seems to understand. Small ball at
a couple of games in a row, and it's worked
for you. Well, it's it's a novel concept, a concept.
Put the ball in play and do something smart with
the bat and the baseball and a runner and eventually

(36:00):
it ends up leading to, you know, a smart move.
So there's a time and a place, and the time
and the place is the manager will decided, but it's
worked for them to perfection the last couple of days.

Speaker 8 (36:12):
Well, a good honest man admits when somebody else is right,
and you, Sean, you were right.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Oh now listen if you said, Sean, would you like
to bun every game? No, Well, if there's a guy
in second, no outs, I got to move over it's
one to one. Yeah, I don't mind doing that if
I can get him over. And it depends on who's
the plate. If Ordon comes to the plate and is
struck out forty seven times in a row, guess what,
I'm not having him deal fun right because the forty
eight time may end up in the upper tank. So

(36:37):
but it's time and a place. I just don't know where.
We decided to draw the line at delineation where once
it gets to this year, not allowed to bunt anymore
past twenty and twenty two thousand and fifteen. Yeah, yeah,
we actually are. You swing through it and miss my
guy ain't moving. Put the ball down. At least when
it's in play. There's action and a bunt every now
and again has its moments and its place often, but

(37:00):
when it does and you execute it, it's a beautiful thing.
Takes you back to when people played in nineteen seventies
and eighties and actually made livings doing that. Guys stayed
in the league because they could butt once in a while.
It works. Yeah, it worked for Brett Butler. Then he
took a wolf of ball off the midsections. Damn right.
It works, and it'll get you a lot of opportunities

(37:21):
used in the right situation with the right people.

Speaker 8 (37:23):
Yeah, we just can't discount it. Nope, for sure not
all right. The torpedo bats though. The conversation that won't
go away. We'll still be talking astros Ronnie, I see
you want to get in on that, but a prominent
voice says, cheating, No way. We'll talk about that here
on at the Sean Salisbury Show.

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Speaker 2 (38:25):
Good morning, Ronnie. How you doing pretty good?

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Guys?

Speaker 9 (38:29):
I got two concerns. One people knocking Dana Brown. I
just don't understand it. The Astros are just now, I think,
getting over the effect of having lost four draft choices
and international money when they couldn't sign young players. So

(38:49):
when you want to deal with the trade deadline, you
need to deal prospects, and they've done that. But I
just hope that they don't if they're not going to
sign their free agents and they need to keep their prospects,
I don't want to see them hemorrhaging out of both
ends of the body, you know. So, I mean, I
wish we could have kept Kakuchi. The real concern with

(39:12):
the Astros that I'm having now is we can't stop
guys from stealing bases against us. And I don't blame Yiner.
It's the pitching staff. I don't know. You know, they
don't have the kinds of pictures that can hold base
runners on. And I know you can't throw the first
one hundred and fifty times and at bat like you

(39:33):
used to be able to. But it's gonna hurt them.
It's gonna really hurt them, particularly if they don't start
scoring runs themselves.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Appreciate the call, Ronnie, great boy, Ronnie. I first off,
I don't. I mean, we could go down a checklist.
Maybe I don't see it as often as you guys,
because I'm not paying as much attention. How many people
are crushing Dana Brown right now? If they are all
over social now, I don't get on like certain you know,
sites to go see what everybody's saying about it. If

(40:03):
it's not on Twitter, isn't glaring. I don't think the
comments I don't pay much attention to unless it's on
my somebody sent me a message. I'll always try to respond.
But I mean, I don't know what the bashing of
Dana Brown would be right now. But they kept Cam
Smith Cam Smith's gonna be a player. You got to
let him do this thing. I just to me, and
so maybe I'm I hear it, we all hear it.

(40:24):
But I'm talking about where it's like he's the reason
they're not hitting. That's not true. So if that's if
that's where this is going. But number two is yes,
the inability to stop people from taking basis is a problem.
And if they don't hit, you're gonna put way too
much stress on a pitching staff because the expectations. You can't.

(40:45):
You guys aren't going six and two thirds all five
They're just not going to do it. There's one million
of rotation in a five game start and another may
g it to five and two thirds, but you're not
gonna get three guys going six and two thirds or
seven back to back to back. It just doesn't happen.
So and that's why all the specialists in the bullpen.
So at some point in time, it's gonna have to
the one's gonna have to carry the other. I mean,

(41:07):
even though pitching has been dynamite for the last couple
of years, even with injuries, they hung in there with
Blanco and the way they pitched that in Scott coming
out of the bullpen. They're going to have to hit.
And it is early, but it is a concern. But
I can't imagine, like I said, that your best hitters
are gonna well, they've done it too many times to
wallow down there now. Over a full season, we'll see

(41:28):
injuries come into play. But what you're seeing now is
not going to be a consistent run production for the Astros.
It'd be almost impossible for them to stay there.

Speaker 8 (41:37):
I would say with Diana, it's more of just a
momentary thing. The Kakuchie trade last year, how could you
do that? You got absolutely fleeced. And then I mean,
you know, you brought up the guys Bregman and Tucker
both being American League National League Players of the Week.
I mean the perceived handling of the Bregmant situation. I
mean the way I looked at that. Sean was a

(41:57):
general manager who said, I'm not waiting. I'm not waiting
for this guy and for us to continuously up our
offer of cool.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
They didn't continue to slap their offer, and I'm under saying
that they didn't continue to slept.

Speaker 8 (42:09):
No do we know that now, But I mean, I'm
just saying the time, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you
just you're not gonna do the Pittsburgh Steelers with Aaron
Rodgers thing.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
You're not waiting, you're going. I also, well, I think
the Pittsburgh Steelers are out of their mind waiting on
Aaron Rodgers too, unless this deal has been done for
three weeks and and he's known it, and that's why
there's no sense of urgency. He's just kind of taking
his time. But if he's holding him hostage, I already
checked out because he's not going to win another super Bowl.
So just so you know it as good as he is.
But back to this is, I don't think that they made.

(42:37):
My gut is that there was a certain ceiling on that,
and so the whole Dana Brown there's only a certain
place he can go. And I'm now now that I
see it in the energy, I'm not sure Alex Redman
wanted to be here. I'm not sure Alex Redman wanted
to I mean maybe he did. And when we say
and of course he did, well, he's got rejuvenated energy
and he's playing out of his mind right now. So
say what we want at a buck fifty? What it was?

(43:01):
I don't think they got their offer up to one
seventy one seventy five, because why do I think Dana
Brown would have liked to keep him? I absolutely do.
Matter of fact, he said on this show, I said,
who's the guy that has to make this go? And
this was when they were floundering around last year and
just started going. He goes with, I mean, I didn't
get to finish my sentence, and he said, Alex Bregman,
And you want that guy to get out of town

(43:22):
for a buck sixty? I doubt it. But Alex was
never taken a one sixty here. He would have loved
to stay here for two ten, but it was easy
to go somewhere else when he got what he wanted.
He got good money, He's got all these opt outs,
whateveryone wants to do. Watch him. I watched the Red
Sox play problem most of the time. Every day. I'll
watch minimum of six innings for one hundred and forty
five games this year because I got the package and

(43:43):
watch them watching yesterday, there's a different Alex Bregman approach
this show. I'm just telling you there is, and I
said it the other day yesterday. If this keeps up.
When the end of the season comes, he'll be an
MVP candidate. We've seen the movie in twenty nineteen. He's
still now. I mean it appears he's capable doing. He
loves a ballpark and there's something to be said, and
there's a rejuvenated energy in him. If you can't see

(44:05):
it with a naked eye, you're not paying attention. So
I'm not even sure Bregnan want to be here. So
you get to a point, Danny Brown, what are's supposed
to do? Beg Borrow cheating steel, Jeff Van Gundy his
ankle and if you didn't want to be here and
a buck fifty six, they were never gonna let Dana
Brown have two hundred million dollars to work with with
Alex Bregman. Never and Alex was not coming back here

(44:26):
for a buck sixty He could have easily so that
discount wasn't coming or that fair salary, and so he
moved on. There's certain things that sometimes as a gentle manager,
if you it may be a win in losing. And
we'll see over the long term. It's easy. Now we
haven't even hit the twenty game mark, and look look

(44:48):
at the conversations we're having I understand, and it's good banter.
We gotta have good banter. But I got news for you,
Jiner Diaz struggle. Isn't Dana Brown's issue. I mean it
may become an issue. It ain't Data Brown's gig. He
ain't holding the damn bat. Pull your damn self out
of it. That's what it is. But I'm sure Dane
is watching him closely because he always hangs around the

(45:09):
cage and likes to offer advice without meddling with Joe
spot his gig. So it's I know it's early, but
the Dana Brown, it's his fault. Listen. Most of the
responsibility usually should fall on the guy who's making the
on the field decisions and the guy with the bat
in his hand and the ball in his hand.

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You're gonna have to punch him up because my phone
screen just went up. Put Rob, what's going on? Good morning?

Speaker 10 (47:59):
Hey, good morning, guys. Just kind of wanted to piggyback
on what you guys were just talking about. You know,
with the current state of the Astros, it's it's time.
We've been saying it for the past couple of years.
Now that this this kind of rebuild phase was coming
and we're there. I mean, we've got half the guys
in the field, our brand new guys. Bregman and Tucker

(48:21):
are gone. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is.
And I don't care that they both got ALNL Player
of the Week. I'm happy for him, but at the
end of the day, I still would have not not
made those deals. I don't think we I don't think
Bregman was ever gonna get the money that he was
asking for from US. I don't think his performance the
past three years had dictated it, and I certainly don't

(48:43):
think he earned the contract that he got in Boston.
I mean, great for him, but I still kind of
think in the long run that there's a good chance
Boston's gonna end up regretting that deal. With all the
opt outs and the money they're paying him on a
three year basis, this is the first year if he
keeps us up. This is the first time in three
or four years that he's even to sniff an All
Star vote. So I mean, good bye him. That's exciting,

(49:05):
but you know, history had also shown it's really not
that surprising form over there because if you look at
his stats before he went to Boston, his hitting stats
in Boston were never bad beginning, middle or end of
the season.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
He'd always hit well in Boston.

Speaker 10 (49:19):
So there was a side that was, well, he's a
second half player, but there was also the side that says,
he's always done well in Boston. So you weren't really
sure what you were gonna get. But if you got
to go by the numbers he didn't earn, then he
didn't earn the contract that he was looking for here.
So there's nothing to be upset about that. Hindsight's twenty
twenty whatever. I'm not mad about it. I still wouldn't

(49:41):
have not made that deal.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
I would have done the same thing they did. I
would have let him go. I'm glad he went to Boston. Yeah, yeah,
you're exactly right. I would have done the same thing,
considering what he wanted for a price, I would have
let him go where he is.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
To quote moneyball, you know, you you let him go.

Speaker 10 (49:57):
That opens up unlimited amount of possibility and we'll find
a way to play with that.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
But until then, this is a rebuild.

Speaker 10 (50:04):
We've got a guy that spent thirty games in the
minors and before that he was a college player. He'll
figure it out, but like you said, Sean, he's got
growing pains to go through, and unfortunately, the team's gonna
have to suffer and bear those growing pains, or otherwise
he's never gonna become the star that he's capable of becoming.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Fact.

Speaker 10 (50:21):
Until then, you know, these guys have got to play together.
It's like I said, it's practically a whole new squad
at two. They still learn in a brand new position.
You know, Jordan has always said I want to play
the field. I'm not sure when his bat's gonna wake
up because it you know, again, the numbers show when
he plays the field, his numbers are better. But now
we've got guys that can regularly play those fields and

(50:41):
they're they don't constantly put his knees at risk. Right,
He's gonna have to figure out that adjustment.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
This is a growing year.

Speaker 11 (50:47):
Guys.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
We'll be fine, but we're gonna have to go through
the bumps in the road. That's all I got, guys, all.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Does He's exactly right. Roads said it before. Most roads
are unpaved. They just are, and then they've had their paved.
They've earned it. They paved it out a little bit.
Now there's a little construction on FM fourteen sixty three.
In full. Sure, they're going to have to some pitfalls
where it rains and it stops down, all the all

(51:15):
the silly, cheesy comparisons, but the bottom line is that
they're there's some detours they're taking now. They haven't had
much detour the last seven eight years. Now they earned
it to get to that point, but detour of other competition.
But I'm done about players and the detours they've handled.
A player leaves, they've they've been fortunate the next guy
stepped up and done his thing, or the overall team

(51:36):
has grabbed it and said we'll overcome it, and they have.
Now they're in a I don't even know if it's
quite rebuilding, but it's different, different, and they're rebuilding some
too because you've got some young players in the next
three or four years. The lineup's even going to look
different two years from now than it does now, different
next year. It's just going to so they there is

(51:57):
some you're taking a detour mentioned the right field. You've
got a new third baseman, you got a new second baseman,
you got a new first baseman, you got a dh
to start off slow, you got a new left fielder,
you got a new visual that Jake Myers is hitting.
I mean at leads to east two times right, doing
some things. So it's different, but doesn't mean it's bad.
It's just started slow with the bats. But the growing

(52:18):
pains get in line. They've been through them before, so
this should not be any surprise, and you don't have
to go through They're not losing one hundred games. They
may lose eighty two games, they may lose eighty games,
they may lose seventy games. They're not losing one hundred,
so you're not getting no more sixty game you know,
win seasons or fifty five games you win. They now
have an opportunity, but the fans, all of us are

(52:40):
going to have to sit there and say, Okay, be
a little more patient. It's going to take the iron
or another a little while to get going. Have not
to do the back of baseball card has to do
with a recent body of work. Guys been pretty good.
So yeah, it's this is not going to be perfectly
paved road to get to where they want to go
this year.

Speaker 8 (52:57):
It's just not well and it's also to the point
of differentiating between retooling and rebuilding is because I think
whenever you bring up the second our word right there
in sports, fans immediately start to get PTSD, especially once
here of oh, we're not going back to the early
twenty tens, are we Like?

Speaker 2 (53:15):
That's what people think of.

Speaker 8 (53:16):
Whenever you mentioned that word is all right, well, then
that means we're going to go in the Baseball Siberia.
We just saw it wrap up over at Toyota Center.
Now finally is the fruits of the labor of going
through that. But for the last five years it sucked.
The Rockets are just the Astros. A handful of years
later back in when these people were suffering through eight

(53:37):
thousand people being in the ballpark and nobody want to
show up, that's who the Rocket And now the Rockets
having Yeah, when Harden was here in West Westbrook and Crispaul,
they won games and they well health they had a
three to one lead and one So it's been a
little more recent for them. But over the last few years,
when Silas was hearing them growing and all the trades
and a new GM, they went through the O, hell,
we're not very good three years ago, well two years

(53:58):
removed from what twenty two to twenty three wins. Two
years removed and we're not even there yet because we're
not even at the end of that season. And now
here they are forty one last year, already in the
fifties this year and the two seed locked up now
they ain't. Nobody had that on their Bengal card playoffs
this year. I remember listening to people goals to get
to the playoffs be one of those teams just plus

(54:19):
they're the two seed now, can't take a sigh of relief,
and I'm sure Udoka is not letting them where it's like, oh, okay,
we're the two seed, we're pretty good. The truth of
the matter is the odds for them to win an
NBA championship by the prognosticators in Vegas, I don't know
what they are, but I'll guarantee you they're not even
in the top five, even as the two seed in
the West.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
I guarantee it. Somebody below them where they're seeded is
going to have better odds to win a championship than
they are. Doesn't mean a hill of beans, because guess
what Vegas doesn't get to play the game, and either
do you and I they do, so they're just the
they're just basically the Astros are going through these last
few yars what the Astros went through before they got good.
Now they're at the two seed, and I think they've
arrived sooner than we expected, to be honest with you,

(54:58):
So now what do you do it?

Speaker 12 (55:00):
Now?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
It's not cutting time after these three games. Now it's
playoff time, which in essence becomes single elimination. Because I
just approached every game you want to win because you
don't want to be the one that's one game away
from being out. You want to be the one that's
one game away from moving on. So that I love it,
and I love the fact that maybe they're a bit premature,
a little year early.

Speaker 13 (55:19):
Good.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Hopefully they'll go win it and do their thing. If
they don't, great experience and growth long and they don't
want to hear that right now, but from a distance,
no matter what happens, And I don't ever like to
say athletes are on house money. Screw house money, how
cause guess what, we're never sure when you're got Marino.
Dan Marino told me a handful of years ago. I said,
we were talking about his appearance in nineteen eighty four

(55:42):
in a Super Bowl. Year two off the chow was
at eighty four eighty three. Dan was a rookie in
eighty three, so I think it was year two in
the league. They got beat by the forty nine ers
and a Super I think a year two was eighty
four is when he threw for like five thousand yards
and Marino forty some touchdowns, well ahead of his time.
Dan told me years later, he said, Sean, you know

(56:04):
what I expected to play, And after that loss, he
said not, I hated losing. He's one of the fiercest
competitors I've ever been around in my friggin life. He
will cut your heart out, feed it to you on
a platter, and smile at you while he's choking you
out with his foot. That's Dan. And we had a
conversation and he was open with it, and he said, Sean,
I thought I'd go to four or five more. Happened
so early in his career. He never saw it again,

(56:27):
and he did he was still. I mean those kinds
of things bug, because if Marino goes and wins the
Super Bowl's people are putting him in Mount Rushmore. The
only thing that's keeping him out is the ring because
he could throw it better than anybody we've ever had. Right,
that guy was awesome, so but that he's still he
suffered from me to bothered him, and so these are
hard to get to men. So screw when I all

(56:48):
there on how screw house money? Just because this is
a young team. What did this team gets split apart
and somebody wants to go and all of a sudden,
somebody gets an attitude problem and you're right back where
he started. Now, we don't want that to have happened,
but they are hard to get to, So ain't no
house man. They should have the idea that we're going
to win that damn thing this year. If they don't,
my point is the experience you get from either getting

(57:11):
your ass kicked or moving through rounds is immeasurable for
their future one way or the other. And how you
deal with it is going to be on Udoka and
the maturity of the team. But I'm telling you there's
not a solo live that thought they were going to
be the two seed when this season started, and you
and I both.

Speaker 8 (57:28):
Know it now definitely exceeded expectations. No doubt about it
all right, coming up next, Sean, I'm gonna give you
a choice again today at seven fifteen, and it's gonna
be a tough one for you. I guarantee that's coming
up right here, Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Speaker 2 (59:40):
All Right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 4 (59:43):
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Speaker 8 (01:00:18):
Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety. Astros beat the
Mariners in twelve two to one. Rockets get the Clippers tonight.
They're already entrenched in the two seed and the Nuggets fire.
Mike Malone just a couple of years removed from a
world title. All Right, Sean has promised, I'm gonna give
you two choices here. I'm gonna give you a swingers
club against a church or a Florida man arrested for

(01:00:40):
throwing pe at people over a declined job interview.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Which one do you want? I'm gonna say, anytime you
can weave urine on, somebody's a good thing. But you
can ask a question on both. And let's see where
the energy is from all of us. What we think
is more either hilarious or fits on both? All right, quick.

Speaker 8 (01:01:00):
Summary on both. So, a swingers club in Connecticut is
being asked to shut down operations because they're right down
the street from a Baptist church, and the owner tells
a Facebook page and an open letter that this is
about the pastor of the church having a friendship with
the mayor of the town. And the cops were called

(01:01:23):
out to this place once, and one of the police
officers telling the Bristol newspaper it's, you know, a bunch
of consenting adults doing their own thing. As for the
other guy, a guy in Florida, funny enough, you know,
it seems like it always happens here. One of the
job at a door distributor, and he applied for the
job and then tried to get a job interview and
they said no. Well then he showed back up with

(01:01:45):
bottles of urine and said, here, why don't you eat these?

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Can you eat a bottle of urine? You know, like
you know in throwing in sports, you know, eat this,
you know, or eat or eat it? Yeah, you know,
don't the ball. Yeah, when you say suck it, you're
not referring to suck it. Could be anything, right, Yeah,
I got you know what I'm saying. Oh I know,
oh man, sucky side they suck or socket? Yeah, yeah,
all right, So eat this or or drink this. I

(01:02:12):
would I kind of like both. So when you don't
get the job or don't get the interview, that's what
we do now, instead of go back to work and
try to and apply it four hundred other places, which
most of the world had to do.

Speaker 8 (01:02:23):
I've said this for the longest time now, Sean, that
there is going to be a landmark lawsuit because some
kid coming out of college is going to have applied
for a job and not even gotten an interview, and
it's going to be you know, oh, well they have
to give me an interview.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
No they don't, that's up to them. Well I don't
have to do anything. I don't have to do any
of that. But the entitlement is, oh, I walk through
the doors, I deserve an interview. Well maybe there's fifteen
other people that deserve it more than you, So I
don't pay attention. But right then and there he is
now put out there that you wouldn't hire him anyway
because the second goes wrong at work. This is your problem, child,

(01:03:03):
hence why people may not give him any more interviews.
You get my point. It becomes a cyclical thing, just constant,
where oh I didn't get the interview. So let me
drive it. Let me throw some pea on you. So
what happens at work when he doesn't get the pay raise?
What's next? Then drops trow and there on a trash
can in the boss's office, or then what's after that?

(01:03:23):
Then the next thing, and before you know it, you
have to get rid of him anyway, So save yourself
the trouble and don't hire his.

Speaker 8 (01:03:28):
Well, it wasn't there like somewhere like on school grounds.
In this one place there was a cereal pooper and
people were like, oh my god, no, But then they
found out it was like the principle of the vice principle.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
That was doing it. Yeah, the old sneak attack. How's
that grab you? And then we got a we got
a swingers club or group that is next to a church. Yeah,
it's next to the Riverside listen, Baptist church. If you're
if you're deep into the gospel and you're you're God
fearing for you shouldn't have to worry about the temptation

(01:04:02):
of the strip club next door. Handle your bit. A
matter of fact, here's why you should look at it.
I'm being a good example because when I walk, well
that it's going to be the perfect the perfect phrase
when they say, oh man, I'm sweating like a like
a like a slut in church. Right, So now the salvation,
So I now have it. You walk out of your
freak you walk out of your freak show, and you're

(01:04:25):
you're were you're you're banging your best friend's girls, brother's
husband's friend. And in what in that what a swingers
club is? You're you're you're you're making sorry making love
to your friends with your best friend's husband or something.
Then you could walk right out of church and go
repent everybody. Right, So here's how you look at it.

(01:04:47):
If you're a true, deep, humble, god fearing person, you're
the pastor or the church, you say, we welcome everybody.
We we welcome in. We don't judge anybody, because if
I'm judging the people who are banging each other next door,
am I truly God? There's a spirit of the Lord
with me. I mean there's places in this city we
don't have zoning. You go elementary school, wine bar, a

(01:05:09):
liquor store, strip club, in a Mexican restaurant, bingo bango
bongo right there. You get them all.

Speaker 11 (01:05:14):
So I to me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Now, I say it tongue in cheek and with a
little bit of hyperbole, but in truth, I'm a church.
You guys are doing your thing while we may not
like it. I'm gonna be true love and you guys
do your thing and if something's wrong, they'll take care
of it. We're we're church and we don't judge. So listen.
And if you're in, if you're into the swinging thing
and you pick the wrong partner, just go next door

(01:05:38):
and repent to the Good Lord and tell them you're sorry.
Don't you feel like that club's like?

Speaker 8 (01:05:43):
Don't you feel don't you feel like clubs like this
are literally like fight club or like, you know whatever,
anonymous like you know, the whole point of it is,
people are supposed to remain anonymous.

Speaker 12 (01:05:52):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:05:52):
It's one of those like, Hey, that's Tim. Hey do
you know that Tim's a swinger? Like you can't have
that following you around.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
We shouldn't church be treated like uh, shouldn't church be
treated like Hippa did? If you see somebody walking out
of the swingers club, but let them deal with their
own issues. You see somebody walk on the Trip Strippers
club and you're stand outside on the front steps of
your church and you see him. It's like, hey, Steve,
Hey Janet. Yeah, I mean, but if you're truly in

(01:06:19):
the spirit of the Lord, okay, you accept them with
open arms. Not well when you say accepted with open
arms just with your clothes on, though, But but come on, though,
you've been to enough churches to know you're going to say,
you've been to enough what you do on your own time,
you know, don't judge. Don't judge.

Speaker 8 (01:06:36):
Let the flag fly, bro that is to you. I mean,
there's a shirt I got on right now. What it's
like fight club? I don't need to know about it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
You don't talk about it, right, So listen, let the
let the zoids be zoids, and let the the Gospel
principles rear their head and welcome anybody who wants to
walk into their church. Isn't that the spirit of the Lord.
Isn't that the spirit? Tell me? Do you don't judge
anybody at our church? You walk in and they're mad

(01:07:05):
at you as you were begging somebody else.

Speaker 8 (01:07:07):
That's church as a whole right here, right, you said,
Steve and Janet, Well, because you know you're talking with
another couple or somebody you know, Hey, Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Hey Janet. Hey, by the way, you know about them. Yeah,
that's that's what happens at churches. You know enough churches.
And plus, if you're living your life right, what goes
on next door won't affect you. Hey, and you reach
out and try to matter of fact, I say, you
reach out and try to help them. Maybe go over
to their party once in a while and make sure
that things are going. Just keep everybody straight, you feel me.

(01:07:36):
Everybody needs a chaperone. Hey, we all need a mentor. Yeah, okay,
So my philosophy is just, you know, love thy neighbor,
even if they're banging your husband. I'm just kidding. Look man, yeah, hey,
you asked. I'm just telling you my love for the group. Okay,

(01:07:59):
as a god fearing men, and I just I'm not
going to judge anybody, you know. Just hey, you're all
welcome on Saturday Sunday, come on into my flock. I
wanted to be part of my flock. It's good to love.
That great word, a great biblical word, it is, Hey,
join my flock. That's it. Do you think that they're
but they're probably mad and when they look next to

(01:08:19):
her like I can't believe it. Then they're starting to
look at it. Man, I got my own house in order.
See your house in order. If you're a Catholic church,
you'd have some of the you know, the Catholic ladies
spitting on the ground. Disgusting. Yeah, but then you can
go in and how many how many do you think
you gotta throw?

Speaker 11 (01:08:32):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:08:33):
Yeah, you're coming out of the booth. You're you're seeing
quite a few penance you got to throw, right, Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Absolutely, so, Hey, just just live your life right and
don't be Gladys Kravitz. I've used that before, which means
quit staring into everybody else's window and judging them. Let
them live their life. Now if they're breaking the law,
but if they're doing their things, the moral law is
none of my business. That's on them to decide. Then
you can come in and repent to me. But I'm
not going to be the pastor in anybody's church. So
there you go. I'll just go listen to them.

Speaker 8 (01:08:59):
We cover at all people throwing p and while people
doing other things. All right, golf, As I mentioned, we
didn't have a chance to get to it. We'll get
to it here. Does golf have a this problem? We'll
talk about that right here Sean Salisbury Show.

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Speaker 10 (01:10:39):
I had to live that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
But the Shawn Salsbury shown is that fair to say, oh,
now the player to Ben and later sometimes comes out
to be a pretty good player. It's rare, right, I mean?
Or is it the dominant player? But is that a
is that the worst? Like like twenty years later when
they go, hey, what did you get traded for a
player to be named later? Well, I mean you can

(01:11:01):
get crash Davis out of it, right, remember that? What
are you doing here? I'm the player to be named later.
Good thing, yeah, good leader, but maybe not raking like
he'd want him to. But he's catcher, so we're good.
So we're at that stress because she's wearing a dress.
Come on, then there you go poise under pressure. But
I always wonder, like, when you leave and you're hung

(01:11:21):
on the plane in your new destination, do you feel
disrespected because you got traded for a player to be
named later It wasn't even worthy of getting you somebody now, Oh, well,
I don't know who it's going to be, but it's
a player to me much we'll get back to you
feel like that's even worse. What'd you trade him for? Well,
an apple and a roadmap or a bullet and a cigarette.
What'd you trading for, well, the seventh round pick in

(01:11:42):
twenty thirty, you know what I'm saying. So I'm just
wondering if and I mean this joking because I think
Montero hopefully it'll he can get back to the reason
he got the big money the year before he got
the big money here, that he can get back to
being that guy in Atlanta. That'd be great for him.
Obviously with Dana's relationship there, I'm sure they had some

(01:12:02):
banter over, but the player to be named later almost
feels like we were giving you away. That's almost the
way I feel. And in this case because they're taking
on salary to correct, yes, they're given cash with my
paying for part of it. So with that, that's exactly right.
So basically that's what this is. The value. If the

(01:12:23):
player to be a later ends up being an asset
for you to use someone else's player, great, but it's
almost as if you gave Montero way. And the truth
of the matter is the return wasn't important. Getting clearing
way for somebody else was and I and it started
off with me joking around like Manna, you got traded
for the player to be named later. That almost feels
like there wasn't a lot of value placed on that one,

(01:12:46):
was it? And in truth there's not. So hopefully it
works out for him, root for anybody that goes on
and is still competing, But it was probably it was
probably time I got an idea here. It's kind of goofy,
but stick with me. You're going to say something, goofy.

Speaker 8 (01:12:59):
That's a day that ends and why But what if
the player kind of like masked singer style. We like
dress them in like a huge you know, question mark
and it's who could it be? Oh, I'd like that?
Or like you know what's behind door number one, two
or three? Was that prices?

Speaker 11 (01:13:14):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Yeah? Where you say, or let's make a deal, remember
the doors behind the deals? Or like gladiators, right, maybe
you don't have a clean path. Maybe it's gonna be
a gladiator with the tackling pad. The player to be
named later should be. It's like when you order clothing
like I I'll order some golf clothing or shirts and
they'll say, you get the mystery box. Oh, so you'll
order something from like Grunk Dolfer, Great Clothing, like by
the way, just you know, just I digress with Great

(01:13:39):
and we're going there awesome stuff and you go in
there and they say, oh, well you get a mystery box.
So maybe it comes with a golf hat, another golf
shirt or maybe a belt, right, they get your sizes,
So the mystery I think that's what we should start.
Whenever there's a player to be named later trade or
you're not sure who the next guy is going to be,
you got to put him in a thing and they
got to choose like straws like we used to do

(01:14:00):
who's hitting first? Or when you're playing ball, who do
you get to pick? You get first, pick right, like
we would do for the master's thing. You draw the
short straw, so you go second.

Speaker 11 (01:14:08):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
So if you get the big straw, so I think
we put him behind, and you may discover something kind
of like an expansion draft to put him behind, and
say I want door number one, and if door number
one happens to be a dog, well, then the dog
becomes your mascot. That's who you're traded for. If it
happens to be well, Ronald Lacuna is behind door number
two or door number three, well god bless you, but
you have to put a player a non player, and

(01:14:31):
like cash or a dud gift in the third one. Right,
I'll take the dog. I'm good with that, the dud gift,
so put it behind so the player to be that. There,
we had a little They want all the gimmicks and sports.
Let's add that I'm trading for a player to be
a named later. Cool. Well, here's how we do it.
Whenever that is mentioned in the contract, you get a
gag gift a player that's got to be. Let's say

(01:14:51):
he's got to be a player that's making eight million
or more and then you got to give up on
your right. You can't protect him. And let now he
comes back to your and he doesn't even know he's unprotected.
He's just behind door number two and door number three
is like a mascot animal that comes to your clubhouses.
You pick one and whatever one you get, that's the
player to be named later for the guy you gave up.

(01:15:13):
It's just add another gimmick to pro sports. We've got
plenty of them. It's another baseball movie, Major League two.
I got you in the outfielder from the Giants, really
not those Giants. Yeah, there you go, There you go.
And we do need to discuss though that's part of
this as we joke, but serious. It'd be kind of
fun if we're gonna ad gimmick. Let's ad a trade
gimmick to it. Did you see how the Denver Nuggets

(01:15:33):
did Mike Malone? It's dirty. It goes back to player empowerment,
the pascification of this stuff. What because he coaches you
hard and says it's bs. They don't watch tape or anything,
and people can't handle tough coaching, the general manager, the
coach gone. And I know they've struggled down the stretch.
I got news for you. They're still NBA capable, champion
capable with the best player in the world on their team.

(01:15:54):
Were getting rid of coaches. We get rid of coaches
way too quick in this league. Mike Malone's a winner.
It's a perfect case in point that player. What do
we call player empowerment, as I said on Twitter yesterday,
is just another phrase for player pussification. Is that you
get to run the show. And a team that's winning,
they're two years removed from an NBA championship victory with

(01:16:18):
a ring on their finger, and the dude's out because
a player or too might not like the way he
calls him out because they don't study, or said some
of them are full of you know what, And he
said it because Mike Malone coaches tough. And here's the
biggest problem in society. Don't let our kids fail and coaches.
If a coach is tough, he's a bad guy. We
can't have him around. If a coach is soft, well,

(01:16:40):
he's perfect for us, but he's not making our kids
or the citizens that are going to be the kids
becomes to this, most of them an't going to sniff
pro sports. We don't have enough of it, and when
we do get one, people are so offended. In player
powerment gets to run a guy out of the building.
This is just deeper than wins and losses. It's either
the player's pissed or the front office just said you've
lost for in a row. I don't like the optics.
You're out that somebody in social media got him riled

(01:17:03):
up because they're losing. Mike Malone should have a job
tomorrow as a coach. Tough loves a little too much
for some to handle, and we have pussified all of
it way too often and it exists. Now, when are
we getting rid of a guy who's been a while
harsh at times? And we've seen guys like this in
the nineties eighties. Mike Malone would be a twenty million

(01:17:26):
dollars a year coach. I'm talking about if you paid
him like you Because those guys can handle it. I'm
not saying the players can't. But we've created this empowerment
where the second coach says, criticizes you. It's personal. Now
you got to get him out or the front office.
Horrible that the Denver Nuggers would do that. Nuggets would
do that, not nuggers. That's what you get on the
top of Is that a nugger when you get a nuggie?

(01:17:47):
There you go. But the Denver Nuggets would it would
be fitting if they were an early out fitting. It
seems like they're trending there. It's just I can't believe
that a guy who coaches hard and coaches tough his
is run out just like that. Because of his personality

(01:18:07):
of that, he's a little harsher on people.

Speaker 8 (01:18:09):
Especially after he said what he said about Mike Brown
getting fired in Sacramento. No class, no, you know whats Yeah,
And he the thing I love about him, he's our
type of guy because he's gonna tell like it is.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
It may not always be what you want to hear,
but it sure is what most need to hear. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:18:24):
Well, sometimes you need those people and you realize it
later on in life. All right, Tommy, Andy Brandon, see
you guys right there. The golf conversation will save for
eight o'clock, but get into a little bit more of
the astros. A couple of interesting points brought up by
Sean I want to carry over the other side right here,
Sean Salisbury show.

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Speaker 8 (01:20:04):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety branded
Good morning, buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
We didn't get a chance to talk with you yesterday.
How you doing doing?

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
Okay, that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
I well, you didn't have time. It's all good.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Well, we got time today.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
What do you got.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
I was I was saying for the astart the game
last night?

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Yeah, and you you liked what you saw?

Speaker 11 (01:20:31):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
Pitching, hitting and.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Diving catching or diving?

Speaker 11 (01:20:40):
Yes, yes, I do?

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
Okay? Good? I mean are you encouraged by what you saw?

Speaker 11 (01:20:44):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Okay? Well good man.

Speaker 8 (01:20:47):
Well, yeah, hopefully they can keep it going man and
get back above five hundred and get this thing back
on track.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
That's it.

Speaker 8 (01:20:55):
Well, I mean They're already in the playoffs, so these
next three games don't necessarily matter, but you know, once
you get into the playoffs, it all matters.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Yeah, there you go, buddy. Yeah, Sean's right here him. Yeah,
good morning to him, Good morning to you, buddy. Yeah,
I just want to give you your platform. You waited
a long time yesterday, So you have at it. Man.
Do you hear enough about you? We talk plenty in
our four hours, So you have at it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Dan, Do you like dance?

Speaker 8 (01:21:26):
Do I The extra ending rule? I mean I don't
mind it from it ends the game quicker. I don't
necessarily worry about it too much. I mean I don't
need to crush your pitching this early in the season.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
I hate it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
I can't stand it. It's a gimmick and I think
it's weak. And they make enough money to be able
to play a real extra inning baseball game that the
rule needs to change. It's stupid. Yeah, there you go,
after dark, There you go.

Speaker 8 (01:21:52):
Yeah, it was Astros after dark. I saw that with
Blummer and TK. You're the man, Brandon. We'll talk to youmorrow. Okay, buddy,
have a good day, all right, I see you, buddy.
Was he listening to Naughty by Nature in the background.
Did Triple you hear that I've heard? I thought I
thought I heard that. I was like, Okay, who was it?

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
What cut was it? What's it here? She go, yeah
there chilling. Oh yeah, I like it. Man, next up
on the on the cut list.

Speaker 5 (01:22:19):
Uh what is it?

Speaker 11 (01:22:21):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
You're down with opp? Yeah, Naughty by Nature too. Now
Brandon comes on here and starts breaking down and singing
you down with opp. He says, yeah, you know me,
every last lady or every last homie any way, whatever
verse he's on. If he comes on here and starts
blowing Naughty by Nature that song and then starts singing

(01:22:45):
it out loud, and it gets to that point the chorus,
and he starts saying you down with Opp. Yeah, you
know me, I'm Mike dropping and leaving the studio, and
Brandon's the king. Well, I mean there you go, he get. Uh,
Brandon's a real one. As I mentioned, Remember I said
favorite Saint, Yeah, right, real ones. No, I mean, if
you're if you're if you're rolling seven fifty five on

(01:23:06):
a Tuesday Wednesday morning and it's OPP, you gotta get
fired up for the day. Naughty by nature. Let's go. Yeah,
that's the way it rolls.

Speaker 8 (01:23:14):
We know he gets his coffee in the morning. We
we know that he he rolls with some naughty by
nature in the background.

Speaker 12 (01:23:20):
I like it.

Speaker 13 (01:23:20):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
You know, he might be an og He might be
just might be.

Speaker 8 (01:23:24):
And you know, speaking of OG's, you're the one that
taught me that. You know, U Vanilla Ice does say
DJ but then when he gets to uh, dcha revolves.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
It's what you talk. And I've been questioning on it
a million of times, and I say, listen to the
whole cut, and it's dcha. It's is weaved in there,
just like everybody talks about Sesame Street and calls him
mister snuffle snuffaluffigous. It's not snuffleopogus. The ninety percent of
the world pronounced it's snuffle up agus. It's a key,

(01:23:53):
not l How do you how did you say it truthfully? Snuffalopagus. Yeah, no,
it's snuffle upagus. Do hit the Google machine during the
break say if I'm right or wrong. They call that
the Nelson Mandela effect. Like you know, it's like certain
things like, hey, that guy was in that movie. No
he wasn't. Yes, he was wealthy.

Speaker 8 (01:24:10):
Useless knowledge is what I Oh, dude, I have an absolute,
just fast wasteland of that in my brain. But if
you all of a sudden get on one of these
game shows and a'll a sadd they say the big
bird's good friend, mister, and you have to choose, and
you say snuffalufogus, you'll miss the money snuffle up against
because the other two people that you're competing against will
use the P.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
I will use the F. They'll say snuffalupogus. Snuffle up
against wins you the prize.

Speaker 8 (01:24:34):
Well, I mean, look, if Jeopardy were allowed for lifelines
in one of the categories was sesame street peeps, well
that but obscure movie lines, then you could call me
as a lifeline because I'd be able to help you
on right and if you need character names or the
rest of it in the history, I'm here for you. Yeah,
I'm going two thousand right off the bat and daily double.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
There we go.

Speaker 8 (01:24:54):
So take that Jeopardy, all right, Tommy and Andy, you
see you guys. We'll get you guys involved in the
eight o'clock out. I do want to get to that
golf conversation because something I've been talking about for a
long time. Somebody else agrees with me. We'll discuss that
here Sean Salisbury show.

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Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Sewan Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
To USC Troupe, longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
Dan Matthewscues. This is the Sewan Salisbury show to beat
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(01:27:30):
one fires up tomorrow, the par three today, our picks
coming up Sean in about thirty minutes, and then Dana
Brown an hour and a half from now here on
the show. So we got all of that to look
forward to feeling good about mine. I'm telling you, well,
you're picking second, so you may not get you guys.
You better have a beat a plan.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
B Oh, I trust me, I've got I've got the
draft board. Okay, you you actually put up a draft board.
You went like you're preparing for right.

Speaker 12 (01:27:54):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
That's the way you should be if you want to
win what a GMS?

Speaker 8 (01:27:57):
You know, like next week, I'm sure that we'll get
Casario talking to draft What do they always say?

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
Trust our board? Yeah? And uh, you want to make
sure you don't have any the guys a reach. You
don't want to hear that one reaches, no reach, no drafting.
Sometimes you got to have that guy, Mike, we might
win the tournament. Hey, you know, okay, he's not gonna win.
Nick Cassario says, you know, we just want good football players.
I just want good golfers. Yeah, that's a solid ball strikers.

Speaker 8 (01:28:18):
So solid ball strikers who can scramble out of trouble,
do all those things. That's that's what we're looking forward.
You better be able to put. That's it, especially here.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Be able to put and can Rory mcklelroll get by
the metal block that August is presented.

Speaker 8 (01:28:31):
I just don't hook it into Butler cabin again. And
I think you're good or whatever those cabins were that
he nted into.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
But if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.
So that's what got to hit it straight.

Speaker 8 (01:28:39):
You got to avoid the Eisenhower pine, That's that's that's
what you got to avoid. And the ponds right that
exist on a golf course. Yeah, there you go, all
of those uh triple e. Big Jay here says that
he wants some Morgan wallin and he agrees with you.
Let's let the gams play out a little bit. But
I'm going to focus on the first part though. You know,
I love you, Big Jay, but I learned a long

(01:28:59):
time time ago that uh DJ's hate requests.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
You let DJs do their work.

Speaker 12 (01:29:04):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:29:05):
It's like Craig Robinson in the movie The Lot that
he did with Jeremy Piven, that that was the whole
thing with him, is that people. Hey, play a little
Casey in the Sunshine Band. All right, it's coming right up.
Don't tell me I do my job.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Right there you go, there you go. But uh, patience
is a good thing when it comes to young players
and new players. That's it.

Speaker 8 (01:29:25):
We will see. Uh speaking of golf this week, Sean,
let's get to the callers.

Speaker 5 (01:29:30):
Get to that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Let's get to them. They're more important than our golf
talk right now. Right there you go, there you go.
Let's go Tommy up in New York. Tommy, what's going on? Hey, guys,
I appreciate it.

Speaker 14 (01:29:40):
I was almost about to hang up, you know, Uh
lots unpacked, guys. Let me see you got the pea
thing going on. You know, the uh swingers you know,
would have been would have been okay if you had
opp On during that stakeout the conversation, you know, down
with opp I wanted to talk about trews.

Speaker 5 (01:30:01):
So you know, as Yankee fans.

Speaker 12 (01:30:03):
We've been through this recently with you know, us.

Speaker 14 (01:30:05):
Making poor decisions and you know trying to you know
get you know, being spoiled with success and then having
a grin and bear the you know the failures and
things like that.

Speaker 12 (01:30:15):
So it's gonna be okay.

Speaker 14 (01:30:17):
You just got to go through those motions, the trials
and tribulations. And Sean, I appreciate that analogy with fourteen
sixty three because I've been green and bearing that thing
for forever and it's it's just so agonizing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
It sucks, blows make you want to move.

Speaker 14 (01:30:34):
Oh yeah, oh I've considered it. We've considered moving because man,
it's terrible. But you know, just grin and Barrett guys.
I mean, you're gonna get through it as Astras fans.

Speaker 12 (01:30:46):
We go through it as I mean, every team goes
through it.

Speaker 14 (01:30:48):
You just got a grin and Barrett man. But it's
you know, getting back to the steakhout stuff. So I
just went through, you know, a new hiring process.

Speaker 12 (01:30:56):
If that would have happened to me, I would have.

Speaker 14 (01:30:58):
Told told that guys that listen, take your pee, go
to the Swinger's place.

Speaker 12 (01:31:03):
Ask you if they're into water sports.

Speaker 14 (01:31:06):
There you go take your next door and go out
for forgiveness.

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
The problem is that some feel somebody take you up
on that, man, some kind of like that. I think, yeah,
I think some like it. Some use it on their
hands obviously to grip a bat too.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
Moistis Yeah, great, great stuff, man. We appreciate you. Thank you,
holding on man, Thanks buddy. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:31:31):
I mean a lot a lot happening in all of this.
But uh, you know, look, you know everybody's got their
own thing.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
Sean. I'm not here to judge you. I just don't
have to do it. We know, we don't judge when
it comes to your private life. That's it right, Just
to just go repent if you need it. Life role
on the side of the refrigerator, we got it for you.
Andy wants to wait in here? Andy, what's going on?

Speaker 15 (01:31:52):
Let's talk two things we all talked about this morning.

Speaker 5 (01:31:54):
Hatter and hater or whatever.

Speaker 15 (01:31:56):
And uh, Dana Brown, Look, Dana Brown, if we're gonna
give bagwell crap for bringing a bradw here after he
his career was slowing down the years before he got here,
and then same thing with when he signed gave Montario
that big payday after he had that one good year

(01:32:16):
compared to the three or four years in the last
five years that he was not good at all. We
got to do the same thing with Dana Brown because Patter, look,
in twenty twenty he was had a three seventy nine ERA.

Speaker 12 (01:32:29):
In twenty twenty two he had a five to twenty two.

Speaker 15 (01:32:31):
ERA, and last year he had a three eighty e ER.
He's the number two highest paid closer in the league.

Speaker 12 (01:32:38):
He can't do that now.

Speaker 15 (01:32:40):
Twenty one and twenty three he was at one twenty
three and one eight ERA.

Speaker 12 (01:32:45):
He was lights out.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
But you don't pay him.

Speaker 5 (01:32:48):
You don't bring a guy in.

Speaker 15 (01:32:50):
Who every other year in the last five years he's produced.
You don't pay him like the second highest paid player
at the position for that kind of production. So for
Haddner to for for the Hatter signing to be good,
he has to do this three years in a row.
He has to be lights out three years in a

(01:33:12):
row from what he did last year. Now and then
now look at look what look at our outfield now, Sean,
I'm pretty sure you were hoping they were gonna grab
an outfielder this year, right, and and there's no way
that they thought camp Smith was going to make this
team and be the starting right field.

Speaker 5 (01:33:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
When spring training started, I mean, you know, you want
to see how good he is and say, oh, he'll
start in Triple A and we'll see. And then he
played so well and there was an opening out there
because you didn't have a great outfield and put him in.
And I think he's going to be a hell of
a player. But there's no I've been begging for an
outfielder for two straight years, an outfielder with pop, there's
no doubt. Yeah, but the other team's got to be

(01:33:51):
willing to play, and you got to be willing to
pay as well. Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:33:55):
And Myers, I mean, if Myers was the answer. Hell,
his last two and six sixty games, his batting average
was two twenty three, his OPS was six sixty in
two hundred and sixty games. There's no way going into
this season that you should have had him plug down
at center field.

Speaker 12 (01:34:16):
There's no way.

Speaker 15 (01:34:18):
So David Brown has got some holes that he hasn't field, and.

Speaker 12 (01:34:24):
It's it's starting to show.

Speaker 15 (01:34:26):
And and and I don't know the split, but your
color earlier said that Albarez hits better in the field well,
they should have been grooming him to play first if
they were outfold yet.

Speaker 8 (01:34:38):
Yet it's not gonna happen. Andy, It's not like if
he's this far along in his career, it's not going
to happen.

Speaker 12 (01:34:44):
Right Wait, come out, Come out.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
Where's al Tuba playing? Fine?

Speaker 8 (01:34:48):
But he's not playing first base. That's all I'm telling you.
It's not going to happen. You have a guy there
that's not moving off first base.

Speaker 15 (01:34:58):
Let field it's harder to play than first base.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
I'm not disagreeing with you, but he's he's out in
left field.

Speaker 8 (01:35:05):
He plays a good enough left field when they play him,
they play They play him at d H to preserve
his legs.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
That's why they do it.

Speaker 15 (01:35:12):
Well, you don't think preserving your legs at first base
first base you don't run.

Speaker 8 (01:35:16):
I don't need a first basement. I don't need a
first baseman. I've got one for the next two years.

Speaker 5 (01:35:21):
I've got one.

Speaker 15 (01:35:22):
Yeah, you didn't have it before the year going.

Speaker 12 (01:35:24):
They should have started growing him.

Speaker 8 (01:35:26):
I don't worry about what I don't have when I
have it right there. I don't worry about hypotheticals. Andy,
appreciate the call. I mean he's not playing first base
like it's it's if it's as clear as I could
say it, and you know, not getting any more of
those calls. Jordan Avarez will never play first base for
the Houston Astros. Go ahead and get that out of
the way. And it's a health thing for him, that preserving.

(01:35:47):
But you're you're both right, he's never going to play
first base. But I think Andy's point is, I don't
think so much now that you've got Christian Walker. I
think going into it the last couple of years, when
it's been a position since he left, You're like, and
even when Yuli was getting older, you needed to find
the air apparent that he thought that maybe taking ground
balls if you were going to play him in the field,
and he wanted to play in the field and left

(01:36:08):
field wasn't going to be the option because of his legs,
you could still preserve him by putting him at first base.
It's not gonna happen now, but this has been this
is an age old conversation. Since Jordan's been league, we
have this feeling that big guy don't want him any
outfield DH first baseman. It got to the point where
Poppy never played any place, but dh right, but maybe
and Jordon's young enough. And you know, I get when

(01:36:30):
Andy says, so you can both be right that he's
not going to play first base. But I think Andy's
point is, when you didn't have a first baseman, the
natural progression you think for a big guy who you
want to preserve his health but loves to play the field,
would be first base. At this stage, that ship sailed,
so you both can be right it ain't happening. But
I get why thousands of people thought, well, why not
try to play him there? If you can move Altuve

(01:36:53):
to left field, you can move Jordan on to first base.
But at this stage of the game, his legs are
going to be more important. They would have gone out
and found the first basement, which they did well. And
to the point, you just brought up even more of
a reason why you would have tried it last year
because you didn't have a guy, because well, the one
guy you sunk the money into he was nothing and
you had to go with John Singleton over there. But

(01:37:13):
thirty four saves last year for Josh Hater tied for
fifth most in baseball, so not bad for having a
down year. And this year he's been pretty unheittable, no
doubt about it. All Right, the golf conversation a hangover,
somebody says, we'll talk about that right here Sean Salisbury Show.

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The Shawn Salisbury Show continues to no now, you know,
back out to the phone lines.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
Sheena and Sugarland, good morning, how you doing?

Speaker 13 (01:38:38):
Good morning Salas calling kind of in response to the
last caller. I don't see how you can make the
comparison of the Hater trade or the Hater acquisition.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
And let's get his name right, it's Hater with a bray.

Speaker 13 (01:38:54):
So Brady was already starting to fall off when we
got him, and we were hoping that he'd make that
climb back, but you know that didn't happen. Hater had
had two lights out seasons and yes, he did not
live up to those numbers last year, but we put
him in a lot of non safe situations. We had
a lot of times where we were asking him to
go out and get more than three outs, things that

(01:39:14):
he hadn't done as much before. And he's been strong
again this season. So I, you know, I don't understand
that uh frame of reference at all. Number two and
this is something a lot of scouts will tell you.
This is something Dana Brown will tell you. It is
a lot easier to transition an infielder to an outfielder

(01:39:38):
as opposed to the other way around. There are a
lot of intricacies to learning the infield, just situationally. You
know a first base, Am.

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
I holding on the runner?

Speaker 11 (01:39:47):
Here?

Speaker 13 (01:39:48):
Am I not holding on the runner? Am I covering
first base? Or am I am letting the second baseman
go to his left and get this? Or am I
feeling the ball? You know, there's a lot more to
learn to it. And DH saves your.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
Legs more than playing period. So it's first base.

Speaker 13 (01:40:05):
Yeah, you're not running around the outfield, but you're still
dhing is sitting on the bench. You're saving the legs.
Christian Walker was a great acquisition and he's got a
lot of the same characteristics as Jordon as far as
a batter, he's got a great eye at the plate
and he's got good power, even though the numbers haven't
shown it. As far as his production this year, the
number of hard hit balls is ridiculous, So he's going

(01:40:29):
to be coming through. It's just got to give it
a time because the hits and the swings are.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
There right now.

Speaker 8 (01:40:34):
Yeah, I appreciate the call, Sheena. I mean, you know Sean,
as we were talking about in the last segment, I mean,
if they had any desire whatsoever on either side, both
Jordan and the team, then he would have been there.
And I mean, you didn't have a first basement last year.
You were trying to put that thing together with duct
tape and bailing wire and eventually it led to John Singleton.

(01:40:55):
But the other part of it as well, the point
she brings up is incredibly valid. You're even hesitant to
play him mountain left field. So if that's the case already,
and you're already limiting the amount of time he's out there,
why would you put more on his plate in terms
of field work.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
Well, you're not. And like I said, I understand Andy's point.
Sheena makes a very valid point as well about the
adjustment from one to the other, and I get it. Listen,
it all comes down to decisions, and it's not just
Dana Brown's decision to preserve Jordon Alvarez. They were way
ahead of that before Dana Brown even got here. He
was going to play. Now he's probably gonna play less

(01:41:28):
left field than they're used to. Hence Whay al Twovey's
out there, but it's the short term, long term, pay
me now, pay me later. The one thing that does
start to bother you, though, is if a player decid
I mean if it and he's listened Jordon Alvarez over
his career. I don't know what the exact splits are,

(01:41:50):
but it only when he's in left field hits well,
we've seen it. But also he hits pretty damn well
when he's just the DH. We've seen that too. But
if Jordon came he said, I want to play every
day in the field, now that's a battle, kind of
like the Dever's horror thing. I'm a third basin, Well, no,
you're a DH. I'm a third No, you're a DH.

(01:42:10):
We got a gold Glover at third base, and now
it's starting to where he's starting to rake. Bregman's raking
and your best player's playing third base. And the truth
of the matter is Jordon's a better left fielder than
al tuove He really is, But six months from now,
who knows. But if he came to you, then you'd
have to make the decision. But I'm assuming he just,
you know, a DH. I wouldn't judge the position or

(01:42:31):
how he's sitting right now. By the fact that he's
not playing the outfield, the ship probably has sailed. Now,
who knows what if something were we God forbid, Altuve
gets a hammy or is that, then you may see
a little bit more of Jordan in left field.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
So it's a.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
Decision you have to make. It's just preservation.

Speaker 12 (01:42:46):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
If the guy was a consistent in his career, couldn't
hit his weight and with which for him was about
two forty, so it's been an average player in baseball,
but couldn't hit unless he played the outfield, then you
would just have to do it, say hopefully it doesn't
get hurt. If the splits were so blatantly different and
I don't know what the exact numbers are, but my
guess is from the optics of watching him, he said

(01:43:08):
plenty of home runs, driven in plenty of runs, and
hit plenty well as a DH as well. But if
it came to the point where the splits were blatant,
then you say, okay, there's something to this, is there.
The bottom line is he likes to play the outfield,
hits there too. But the guy does hit when he's
a DH. So but the ship is said, unless some
crazy ass injury situation hits you, and regardless of whether

(01:43:31):
Andy wants it or you don't or what have you.
They went out and got Christian Walker. They don't want
Jordan to play first base. And I know sometimes we
make first base seem easy. It's not an easy position,
but of the infield, it feels like, okay, I almost
feel it goes shortstop, third base, first base, second base,
I feel like second base because you're rarely digging out

(01:43:52):
balls that are in the dirt. First base is There's
a lot of things that go to it. So in
that order, regardless, it's still difficult. And until it's an
absolute need, Jordon's going to play the field anywhere other
than spot times, you're not getting one hundred and forty
games out of the month. Well, and to your point
about first baseman, we found that out after you didn't
have Juligar yell around anymore. When he had a guy
that was a gold Glover over there playing the caliber

(01:44:13):
that he did, you were like, oh, yeah, the defensive
part of it, this is important too.

Speaker 8 (01:44:17):
It's not just a guy that can put balls over
the wall. So in fact, yeah, absolutely, let's go to
the northwest side. John wants the way in here, John,
what's going on?

Speaker 11 (01:44:26):
Hey Fellas, Fellas, good morning to you.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
Morning.

Speaker 12 (01:44:31):
Hey man.

Speaker 11 (01:44:31):
Look you know my feeling is this right here?

Speaker 6 (01:44:34):
Man.

Speaker 11 (01:44:34):
I've been watching baseball quite a long time, and I'm
sure your callers have too. But hey man, I think
this is like the seven eight game in the season
for the Astros. I don't know what they have yet,
and what I see I like the partitial I see.
I like I'm loving Perellas and I'm loving welcome because
they might not be starting off with a good season.

(01:44:55):
But I'll tell you one thing. When they hit the ball, well,
I see power as far as Avareds though. When the
Astros brought Avareds up, they had he had as I remember,
he had to have little surgery on his knees and
stuff like that. Look at here, he scares me when
he runs from first base or second base. D H
is just fine. As I'm concerned. And Sean, the reason

(01:45:18):
I called. Did I hear you mentioned earlier? You can't
stand there, gimme crap after the ninth inning.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
That's exactly I've been saying it all along. I cannot
stand putting a guy on second base. It's not real baseball.
It's a gimmick. Yes, I despise it.

Speaker 11 (01:45:33):
You didn't earn it, man, Yeah, man, I can't stand
that either.

Speaker 12 (01:45:37):
Man.

Speaker 11 (01:45:37):
It cheap THEMS baseball. It cheapens the fans, you know,
fans that pay for paint, the subscriptions for this and everything.
And really, my personal feeling is the reason they did
this because they don't want to paint any more television money.
And you know, we didn't have that many games that

(01:45:57):
went fourteen fifteen twenty won twenty two games that year
when the Astros I think they went twenty three or
twenty four. Uh, overtime, overtime anything.

Speaker 12 (01:46:11):
Hey, man, it was wonderful.

Speaker 11 (01:46:13):
I was at work, man, I'm watching this game and
then I get off work at two o'clock and the.

Speaker 12 (01:46:18):
Game is still going on. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 11 (01:46:21):
And this is the deal. You don't have that many
overtime games like that in baseball, man, that you know
that that that was just so terrible. But hey, in
all the sports now right, they cutting things here and there.
You know they're saying, well, we know these fans are
gonna get used to it, but.

Speaker 12 (01:46:36):
We still want their money.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
Every month.

Speaker 11 (01:46:39):
Let's go ahead on and cut some of this and
save money. Man, Hey, y'all, have a good day, fellas.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
I'll tell you this. I don't want to hear that
it preserves injuries and all. I mean, you're safer when
you're not playing the extra and it's it's a it's
a crock.

Speaker 12 (01:46:54):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
It started during COVID and we know and they just
haven't gone back. They don't want the games, whether it's still,
whether it's you know, gett into your local programming and
your whatever. The reason is, the bottom line is these
guys make enough money to play extra innings. They just
do the right way. Now with a guy on second base,
this isn't Little league. You know the force runners out.
When you have a ghost runner on first base, it's

(01:47:15):
it's a gimmick. And that's exactly what is the They
make enough money and we got enough time, and we
like baseball games. You need to earn second base. You
shouldn't get it. I don't care what anybody says, it's
not We don't have to change rules just to change them.
And I'm willing to watch four or five six more innings,
regardless of the sleep you lose. If you love watching
the game. If it goes extra innings the right way,

(01:47:35):
earn your earn second base. This is it's ridiculous, and
it was a rule put in as a gimmick, and
now they're going to keep it and it's silly. It's
just frigging silly. It's not real baseball. Well we can
agree that Augustin nastional this week is not a gimmick.
Rights it ever is If you go in with a gimmick,
you're gonna get your ass handed.

Speaker 8 (01:47:52):
Say, if you try that, or even if you try
it as a patron, they'll throw you right out.

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Speaker 8 (01:49:02):
It is that time and a good pull by Triple
E right there to go with a Georgia artist in
Alan Jackson, because well it's a tradition unlike any other.
It is going to tee off tomorrow morning. We'll have
it on here in the studio as it is Master's
time at Augusta and the timing couldn't have been more
perfect right there from Triple E.

Speaker 2 (01:49:23):
Great theme song. It is no every single every single time.
This time of year.

Speaker 8 (01:49:27):
You hear this song, You're like, oh, yep, the couch
it's gonna go ahead. It might as well have a
seat belt on it, because I'm not moving for the
next few hours. Yeah, hello friends, there you go. It's
hello friends, welcoming us to Butler Cabin. The drive, the
drive down Magnolia Lane.

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
First page of the leader board. Scottie Scheffler at the top,
Fred Couples, my former University Houston teammate, quickly to Verne
Lundquist at sixteen. Now Frank Nabolo. Yep, no, Vern Lunquist
did his last one last year. The great voice of yes,
Sir Vern Lundquist. All right, draft time. That's it. Five

(01:50:02):
people total score. If you don't make the cut any
you know, if two of your players don't make the cut,
then if they were plus five plus five and then
two days, then that's ten strokes added to your score.
So tiebreaker, tiebreaker. We usually have a sixth player, which
we can do if you want a tie breaker. I

(01:50:23):
would imagine with five and five we won't need one,
but we can decide at the end of our picks.
I'll start Scotty Scheffler, two time winner, has not been
playing well there, you're My biggest concern with Scheffler is,
for the first time since he's been dominating the last
two or three years, I see more emotion on him
and frustration on the golf course. Normally it's just yet
he still can overcome it. The guy's brilliant. He's starting

(01:50:45):
to put better. The last couple of weeks. He's ramped
his game up. He was really good here in Houston.
Give me Scotty Scheffler, the fact that he knows this
golf course and he hits it where he wants to
as long as the frustration stays out. Give me Scheffler
at first.

Speaker 8 (01:50:58):
Yeah, I mean two time winner there is the course. Well,
I'm gonna go with a live guy. I'm gonna go
with Bryson.

Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
Okay, to Shambo. I'm going to go to Shambo. Yeah.
I talk to a guy who's played in the tournament
yesterday for for about forty five minutes, and he likes
Bryson too long. Can bring it to your knees, but
gonna have to putt. But that guy and I love
his personality the way Deshambo's kind of one over fans
and stuff lately. Give me a Ludwig Obert Okay. Second,

(01:51:24):
because I I think he's got the prettiest swing in golf,
and I think he's ready for another big breakthrough. He's
won this year, and I fully expect him to win
many more. First major, could possibly eighteen to one. I like,
I like his ability as a young guy to kind
of smile it off. I think that I think that
he's going to be in the hut. Yeah, you mentioned

(01:51:44):
Scotti Scheffler. Former champions. Former champions usually do well, and
this guy is one of those, and he's won this
year on the tour. I'm gonna go ahead, Decki Matziama, Matziyama, Okay,
I'll get you. Are you right? You got? You's already
really right? Yeah, you know. I'm trying to go long
shots and see if I can mix that in. I
don't think Xanderschoffley has played very well this year in

(01:52:07):
my opinion, considering what we have. But he's always capable.
And then you got the Shane Lowry's who put it well.
I'm gonna hang up there and say that Colin Morikawa
hangs around, always good short game and can drive the
golf ball. Give me him and he's won majors before
a couple of them. I like him.

Speaker 8 (01:52:26):
I'm going to go with another star of the TGL.
I'm gonna go with the star of the TGL min
woo Lee.

Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
You're going minwou uh min woo.

Speaker 8 (01:52:34):
Lee winner here at the text Children's you snopen solid
ball striker very much, solid ball unfollow on social media too,
no doubt. Then you go down to like the Jason
Days and Wyndham Clark's. Is Dustin Johnson into it enough?

Speaker 2 (01:52:47):
Justin Rose always hangs around in these give me you know,
we've gone through all this and none of us have
picked the guy who's playing right now. He'd be the
PGA Tour Player of the Year in twenty twenty five
would be ry malroy one Cable Beach one at what
the players, Yes, he did in an extra in extra
holes the next day, I got to think that with

(01:53:11):
the fourth pick of this and Rory is still sitting there,
I don't He's had some miserable times here at Augusta,
and this has been in his crawl and in his
mental and I do believe that he's got a psychologist
sports psychologist with him this week here. I do I
think at Augusta, or at least was there early. I
don't know if it's Bob Rotella, doctor Bob Rotella. Maybe

(01:53:33):
it is, who's a famed sports psychologist. But Rory's got
to get over the mental block of this golf course.
But I'm going to take him with a fourth pick
in this draft. How can you not take him. He's
the player of the year so far this year. Give me,
give me macalrol O. Paralysis by analysis.

Speaker 8 (01:53:47):
Man. You know, if you truly passed it, you're truly
passed it. So but still a good, solid pick by you.
I'm gonna go with your Thanks for your opinion. I
appreciate it. You like that always that they're in the
fantasy drafts. You be a good pick. I appreciate it. Well,
that's why I picked him. Yeah, it's a steal at
the fourth pick. I know one thing, he'll make the cut.
He slid down, he slid down the draft boards. I'm

(01:54:08):
gonna go with Russell Henley. Solid player, Yes he is,
he's playing. I'm playing well this year.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
You know, at some point in time, you're going to
look down here and somebody like Tony feenaur A, Kegan Bradley,
Brian Harmon won last week. You know, like I said
Wyndham Clark, They're gonna rear their head. But I feel
like I'm top heavy with my picks with odds this year.
John Rahm's been a winner here. How's he going to play?
He's long. I'm struggling between Ram and Kepka. I like

(01:54:36):
to call him Brooksy. I just think that that if
you've won here, the familiarity and when you're long, h
I don't like to leave Brooks Kopka and his grind
out of majors because the guy does everything for this
and John Ram and then you start to look at
the way Victor Howlin started to shape up his game.

(01:54:58):
Give me John Ram because he's one here. I'm not
real comfortable with a pick, but the fact that he's
one here and live golfers have given some, you know,
given the PGA guys the thing to think about. Give
me wrong here because he's long, and if his putter's
work and he can bring the course to his knees
like the shamble, because he can he can drive the
ball where guys are hitting five iron and he's hitting

(01:55:20):
a flip wedge in or an eight iron in. Should
I say, yeah, I'll take wrong. I'm anxious to see
who manages the course. Well, we've got a putt and
and uh, you know that's why a guy in truth,
the guys who right now the best putters in the world.
Give me somebody who can keep it in a three
foot circle, which is hard to do there, but long
players are hitting different clubs into it. I'm gonna go

(01:55:42):
John rom.

Speaker 8 (01:55:43):
Now, even though he hasn't been much of a winner,
he is a guy that is a perennial top ten guy,
and strategy does matter here. I'll go with Tony Now
on my team.

Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
Okay, and Tony Now boy can and he can drive
it a long way. The question is can he stand
over putts and make them in majors? That's that's what
he's gonna be faced with. All right, overtime pick in
case there's a tie. Now, if your guy doesn't make
the cut as a tieth, then your host, right, yeah,
all right, so give me Victor Hovelin. Is my sudden
depth tiebreaker, Going Victor Hovelin. I'm gonna go Stepstraca played

(01:56:16):
great this year. He has played great, really good putter,
and he is hitting the ball exactly where he wants
to hit it somebody like back Tier or somebody's gonna
come through this way. I'm just telling you and be close.
But I like that pick. Matter of fact, I think
that's a damn good pick because he has hit it
as close and as good as anybody as far as
consistence he goes. He's on a front page of Leaderboard

(01:56:37):
every week. Should be good. All right, So.

Speaker 8 (01:56:40):
Liking my picks, you're liking yours, and we're going to
of course love the tradition unlike any other that masters
can't wait.

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
That's it. But one guy not gonna be part of
the field this week. That's a problem.

Speaker 8 (01:56:51):
We can talk about that a little bit before we
get into the nine o'clock hour. Forty five minutes from now.
Dana Brown going to join us here on the Sean
Salisbury Show.

Speaker 5 (01:57:00):
We want to win.

Speaker 2 (01:57:02):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.

Speaker 8 (01:57:05):
But is there a Tiger Woods hangover in the game
as a whole? Because twenty nineteen will never be replicated
as long as I'm alive. Like that final round was
amazing where it was? Could he finally do it?

Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
Yeah? Were talking about his comeback? Yeah, his comeback? I
mean just the television alone of could he do it?

Speaker 5 (01:57:24):
And then what was it?

Speaker 8 (01:57:25):
Mullinari put a couple in the water and you're like,
oh my god, he's got the lead now, like this
could actually happen. Then he finally taps it in wins
the tournament, and it was you know what, for one
more day, you know, we got the sun back in
the sky for one more day with this guy of
being able to be that guy again.

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
So your question is do I think I need somebody
like that or what's the point.

Speaker 8 (01:57:48):
Well, it's that the game just doesn't have him as
what he was, And Brandal Shambley brought that up on
the four Play podcast the Barschool Barstool Golf podcast. Everything
he did was so exciting. He made the job easy.
Here's your story tonight, here's a breakdown. You just show
him chipping, you get a great rating. You realize he's
sort of shuffled the competition coil every weekend in week outs.

(01:58:11):
Not knock on the current group of players, it's just
that we're all having a Tiger Woods hangover.

Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
Well, I don't even know if it's a hangover. I
think it's you'd like more of it because you want
the fire of him walking down the fairway and not
talking to his opponent, the gamesmanship that went with it,
the bury him while he's got a chance to do
it at the greatest golf venue on the planet. When
it comes to tournament play. We love guys that not
only can be the here. We love comeback stories, We

(01:58:38):
love great golfers. We want the guy that dominates so
everybody else has to chase. We want Phil and Tiger
to be in, you know, competition with each other with
everything they do. We're looking for it. We don't have
it right now. We got Scotti, Scheffler and Roy McElroy,
but it's not really a head to head battle on
a regular basis like we created the Tiger Woods created

(01:58:59):
and that Jack and Arnie. We were missing that. We
got good players, but where's the star powers. I think
what people a talking about Scheffler no disrespect to a
great players boring and that's okay. His game's not boring.
He's phenomenal. Mechanics are weird, feet or moving everywhere, and
the guy hits it exactly where he freakin wants to,
and I love the guy, but there's there's some miss

(01:59:21):
and then you know, some of these guys that we
only see in four times a year because they're on
the Lift Tour still bring Bryson d Schambeau. Quite frankly,
he went from a guy that was a heel because
people didn't thought he was overly arrogant and swinging too hard,
wins a major and told you he was going to
just bring the course to its knees basically by hitting
it farther than everybody else. And he did end one
and then going to you know, I don't. I don't

(01:59:42):
blame a guy from going getting three hundred to four
hundred million. Hell, who wouldn't. The reason why the top
guys don't go to live is because they're making money.
But if you're one hundred and twenty fifth player on tour,
got to work to be to be inside that number
so you can get your card the next year. I
get why somebody wants to go and get their forty
five million guaranteed okay, to set up their family. That

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neither here nor there. We don't have the weekly oh
my gosh, we probably have over the last two years,
what twenty new winners. While we love the story of
a guy getting his first win and struggling through it
and kissing his newborn baby with his wife. We still love.
Oh there's Tiger Woods dominance again. We want a villain
and we want a hero, and then we'd love them
to be pitted against each other. And that's just what

(02:00:25):
we got. Great golfers, I mean, phenomenal players can hit
it everywhere. The problem is that while we got the
dominant Scottie Scheffler and Rory mclurry, the biggest story for
this week without Tiger Woods would be if Rory McElroy
wins the tournament, or is battling a live guy and
Roy's outspoken and he and Dschambeau, or he and John Rahm,

(02:00:47):
or he and Dot Victor Hovel, Are he and somebody
who's a you know, a live golfer. It's McElroy and
whoever else we want the Is he gonna choke? Is
he gonna go Greg Norman? Is he gonna go Rory
McElroy and at golf course? Or is he gonna do
what Rory's done this year and bury the field and
go win his third tournament and be on his way
to a seven victory nineteen or twenty twenty five. But

(02:01:09):
the biggest draw this week and it may not even
be Scheffler and McElroy, although for star power standing on
number twelve if they were playing in the last group
on Sunday. Now we're onto something because it's star power,
even though Rory's not from the United States, but he's
he's been on a tour like eight million years and
he's not even thirty seven years old yet. And then Scheffler,

(02:01:30):
who's calm, has won it before. We'd love the competition,
but in truth we want the hatred part of the conversation.
Who doesn't want Rory at twelve with d Chambeau and
him locked in hell on Saturday, you can push Chevy,
but I know we play two man groups on the
final day of the Masters. Who doesn't want Rory versus
a d Chambeau who doesn't want Rory versus somebody else

(02:01:53):
who's an outspoken guy and his plays on the live
tour of Court, Dustin Johnson, even though people think he's
boring too. He just hits the long way and damn
good player and he's won there. So that's what the
Tiger woulds affect. That's the problem we don't have. Tiger
was the villain at times because everybody thinks he owed
them an apology to them for the moral things that
he went through. He didn't know any of an apology

(02:02:13):
other than his wife and whoever else he felt. He
didn't know me an apology. I didn't look to him
to be my marriage counselor anyway. So there's that. But
he's also the hero of the villain and all the comebacks.

Speaker 12 (02:02:24):
We love it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:24):
So since he's not there, what's the next biggest story
repeat by Sheffeld. But even bigger is Rory McElroy's lack
of ability to close there and outspoken, and nothing better
would serve them to say, Oh, we're on the twelfth
and he and a live golfer are head to head
playing and they're not talking very much on the golf
course and Rory's and now here are the demons that

(02:02:47):
he's had to deal with. Can he do it today?
And if he doesn't, the ratings will go through the roof,
or if he does. But that's what we're craving. We're
not craving, I hate to say it, You're not craving
Victor Hovlin playing Rory mackel or. Victor Hovlin and Tony
Fenow we love them both now but one with a
two stroke lead going into sixteen, and we're like, great,

(02:03:09):
we love the villain, we love the hero, and the
only way to get that is by the villain part
of one from the different tour at Augusta because they've
lived tour. Guy's pretty good and they've won majors. And
then you got the other side where a guy who
hasn't won there that we think right now is the
best golfer on the PGA Tour with the way he's
playing this year.

Speaker 8 (02:03:28):
I mean, the storylines do matter, but it's also too.
I mean, Tiger created the storyline because he transformed the sport.
He got athletes to start playing the game. He got
players on tour who said, hey, you know what, if
that guy's this good, I need to start looking like him.
I need to be in better shape, I need to
start lifting weights, I need to actually look like an
athlete out here. But not to be underscored by the
fact of oh, yeah, hey, that guy's just got a

(02:03:49):
ton of God given talent, and yes he does that.
But I mean the way that players dress on tour.
I mean the guy getting his own clothing line, all
of these different types of things.

Speaker 2 (02:04:00):
Those are things the game didn't happen. And what it
goes with tiger Io is you're never gonna see talent
is obvious when he won him back in nineteen. More
grit than talent. I mean, he can barely walk at times.
I mean, and there's nobody ever on the golf tour
that's going to overcome this many obstacles, some self inflicted
by him, whether it's injury, whether it's achilles, whether it's

(02:04:22):
leg almost being taken, whether it's what happened with the
off the field stuff, with the why, all those things,
and he just keeps coming back another life. But that
life's not just created by talent. It's back in there saying.
And he will play another PGA Tour event, I assure you,
because of his grind. I don't know if he'll win one,
but he will play in one again. And that's just
who he is. You're never going to see it again.

(02:04:43):
Why you may see guys win a lot, and you're
never gonna see it again because very few people have
the grit and wanting. Most would have said, you know what,
I'm done, I almost lost a leg, this is a
second another Achilles, all these things that go with it,
you're not seeing that again. Maybe from him, he'll compete
and make the cut there again, but you're not going
to see another player go through. Most would just say
I don't have the grit to deal with all the
and then all the way social media beat down on him,

(02:05:04):
and he just kept staying the course, stay in the
course and wins again. You're not going to see a
comeback like he gave you in twenty nineteen. Nobody's doing that.
You'll have guys that win, but nobody's going to do
it in the journey that Tiger Woods took, no.

Speaker 8 (02:05:18):
Doubt about it. It was almost like Jack in eighty six.
That's a dated reference right there, but just look it
up for the kids out there.

Speaker 2 (02:05:24):
Jack was form more age than yeah, No one say
forty seven things of adversity and making the Yeah. His
was like forty six year olds can't win here well,
and Fred Couples did a pretty good job of winning
there as he was a little older too, and keeping
the ball up on number twelve. I love it, but
we liked the hero in the villain and at different
times Tiger Woods has played both and that's not a

(02:05:44):
bad thing for PGA Tour Golf McElroy would be the
story this week. Oh, I always wore Sunday red. I
was always ready. I always wanted to see.

Speaker 5 (02:05:52):
Him roar it out.

Speaker 2 (02:05:52):
The other thing, even when you're mad at him, you
wanted to see him win. Damn right. Yeah, twenty nineteen
was awesome, all right?

Speaker 8 (02:05:58):
Coming up next Beckett back in the the Astros conversation,
because well, these guys, they're the ones absolutely stepping up.
We'll talk about them also, Dana Brown coming up in
about thirty minutes. Right here, Sewn Salisbury Show.

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Speaker 8 (02:06:52):
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to go see the Astros from some good seats. They

(02:07:14):
win last night two to one, twelve innings against the
Mariners there in Seattle. They'll close out series today. Rocket's
going to take on the Clippers tonight. So that is
what we have speaking of the Astros Sean, I mean,
we talked about this a little bit earlier on this show.
Wanted to bring the conversation back of the pitching being
exactly what Dana Brown has told us this group could be.

(02:07:36):
And last year we were pleasantly surprised by guys like
Taylor Scott's Renel Blanco, both of those guys struggling a
little bit in the early going. But while they have
their struggles, you get guys like Ryan Gusto. Hey, by
the way, you got a runner on second, nobody out
and it's a tie ball game. A little bleeder gets through,
this game's over. You have Ryan Gusto coming in last

(02:07:56):
night saying, you know what I'm up for this, I'll
get some guys out, and he's able to wiggle out
of the trouble with a flyout and then a double
play to be able to end the inning. Steven Okert
another guy that whenever you've called his name and he's
come jogging out of the bullpen, he stepped up and
he's absolutely done.

Speaker 2 (02:08:12):
Wonders for this team. Yeah, they I love it when
it's not just earning the respect of the manager and
the general manager and the trust, it's the players they
know and to be able to do in there and
close it out in these situations or add an inning,
give a quality inning, or you know, get your business
done at the back end of the bullpen, or give

(02:08:34):
you six innings at the front. But the two names
you mentioned, you know, Okert and Gusto doing their gig.
And while I understand that they're trying to gain everybody's
trust and do it and win, I can't begin to
tell you how much it means. I would imagine if
you take them aside and say, what's the most important
thing about getting you to the next game and the
next level, And aside from doing your job, the impact,

(02:08:55):
the impact they're trying to make is making sure that
the manager of pitching, coach and their players trust them.
Every time you run them out there, and going back
to your point about Scott that you're like, man, when
are you going to give somebody else to try? You're
basically done with him in that role right now. But
it's easy now imagine if you needed him later on

(02:09:15):
and you decided that you would push him down and
not give him the seventh or give him the belief
in a high leverage situation that a spot puts him in.
That if you decided this early eleven games in the
season to move down, and then two months from now
you need him in a high leverage, pressure situation, there
is a method to it. And winning that trust over
from not only a manager but the guys who are

(02:09:36):
in the field and trust you is far more important
than our opinion of it, I assure you, but those guys,
but you also have to perform, as all the talk
and history and back of a card and all that
means nothing at that moment. And at that moment right now,
the pitching staff is doing what they've done quite frankly
for the last one year and a half to two
years counting not counting this year yet, but counting this year.
For their success is they've been the staple and the

(02:09:59):
backbone this team and two new guys, two more guys
that are adding to it and been really really good
coming out of spring training and giving you what you
need at least eleven games into the season.

Speaker 8 (02:10:10):
To your point, though, about Taylor Scott, why is it
fair to him? Why is it fair to you to
continue to put him in that spot if he's not
performing in it right now? Why a soft landing spot
to be able to build back up?

Speaker 2 (02:10:20):
Yeah? And why? Okay, so, but you are how many
how many appearances does he have this year? You're judging
his whole body of work last year and coming into
the season loving him. We are eleven games in and
you're saying, what would you say, why is it fair?
I'm not worried about fair. I'm not worried about that,
Gusto or anybody else's opinion on fair or yours or mine.

(02:10:43):
When it comes out there, the I always I always
defer to the guys that are around and seeing it
all the time, and it is a I don't think
they're looking on the short term. I think you're saying, Okay,
he's going to be necessary for us. What's more important
right now? They won the game, he hasn't been the
Scott that you've counted on yet eleven games in and

(02:11:05):
a handful of appearances. However, many innings he's got I'm
sure you have in front of you. But looking ahead,
is it smart to say the guy's no good for us?
And then all of a sudden, But what confidence are
you gaining in a not? Like I said, there's a
difference between good reps and reps you don't need. You
just don't need reps. You need quality reps, and I

(02:11:27):
don't know how to get I don't know how to
get high leverage reps in the third inning or the
fourth inning. I don't now every rep matters if it's
working towards bettering you. But all reps aren't good reps,
and all pressure reps the fourth inning aim as much
pressure as the seventh inning. So now you got hell,
if you're getting your ass kicked, you need somebody to

(02:11:47):
shut him down for three outs and then okay, that
built the confidence, and sure, but what it would tell
me if I was in a spot eleven games in
and I'm already demoted. Not that I'm worried about his
overall psyche, but as a relief, we better worry about
it because I'm not in the field good business. I'm
in the production business. But eleven games in, are we
really there yet? Where it's like anah, well, well, you

(02:12:09):
know it's not fair to have him coming in there,
not fair to who. I don't care about fair. I
care about if they believe in him, and the collateral
damage it does if you need him later. The only
way I know how to perform under pressure is being pressure.
You can't simulate it in the bullpen, and he's sure
as hell can't simulate it in the third inning when
the score zero zero and there's nobody on and you're

(02:12:30):
going through it. You walk off saying great, But when
am I getting back to where they trust me? I
don't think the trust factor should be diminished Eleven games
into a season.

Speaker 8 (02:12:37):
Now, And I mean that might be a little bit
strong to say completely take him out of the spot. Sure,
but five games this year eight ten, e three and
a third innings, so he had a rough spring. It's
carried over into the season. I get working your way
out of it. But then, also too Sean to your point,
I mean, was that say to a guy like Brian
King who comes in in absolutely shoves Steven Okert.

Speaker 2 (02:13:00):
It tells me that whatever role they're in, keep doing
your thing. The seventh inning isn't the catch all for
star players and relievers. I know it's leading to a
bray you and leading to hater, but you got to
take your role. If you're the fifth inning or long
relief guy, then you deal with it. And in case
c see, you're in the business of making sure those
guys what's fair to them, what's fair as they're on

(02:13:21):
the roster. And if you're pitching in the fourth inning
because we've had a three and a third performance by
a starting pitcher, get them out. That's his job. You
don't get rewarded eleven games in just because bam, you
know what you deserve it well, thirty five games in
if he's earned it and the production's not there from
anybody else, and got to have that guy in the
cent it'll work itself out. Either a performance is going

(02:13:42):
to keep you there or it's gonna find you. It's
gonna find somebody else. The glove will be on the
mound if you don't perform. So I'm not in the man.
What if the other guy's feelings are hurt, If you're
the fourth inning guy or long relief guy, deal with it,
and you want to be the seventh inning guy? Keep
getting people out in the fifth inning? What if okay,
because of a short body of work by that standard.

(02:14:07):
And you mentioned you're concerned about Yiner does Yiner das
now get set down to he should? Should he eleven
games in after all last year be the backup catcher?
Now then why are we then? Why is Taylor Scott
being moved out of the seventh because of five three
innings of appearance? After all? That a struggle in spring training?
But according to people out there, I hear it's just

(02:14:29):
spring training. Why I always say the emphasis is on
spre It does matter. So are we there three weeks
from now? Dude, now it's time to move? But are
we really after three innings? Singing?

Speaker 11 (02:14:40):
And man?

Speaker 2 (02:14:40):
We got it? Demoting And I'm not worried about King
or anybody else's feelings about they deserve to be the seventh.
You keep doing what you do in the fifth and
it may it may rear its head.

Speaker 8 (02:14:49):
Well, it's not even just about you know, demoting and
promoting guys and what's fair to them, But it's about
to your point of roles that they've been asked to fulfill,
they've done it. I mean, that's a tough place to
put Ryan gust So even as well as he's pitched
in the early going last night and Sean, what does
he do?

Speaker 2 (02:15:05):
He came through. Okay, what if Gusto you moved into
the year, you'd make him the seventh inning guy. And
I'm not I'm not blaming him. I'm blaming the guys
for getting one run. That's who I'm okay, Well let
me okay then, but if he's the seventh inning guy,
let let's just say you think he's a boom put
him in there, and he has three straight outings were
three innings and a third where he blew a lead

(02:15:26):
or didn't do what he wanted, didn't didn't preserve getting
to the eighth inning guy and Brian Brady, then what
are you want to move him out? Already?

Speaker 8 (02:15:33):
Then it works itself out and you have to go
with somebody else that you trust to get those outs.

Speaker 2 (02:15:37):
It's three innings enough. Probably you need a little bit
more of a sample size, and to your sample size,
bigger Gusto sample size or Scott sam I'm not saying
gust is not gonna be a star right now. If
you're talking about I'm just as so I'm questioning if
we're willing to make these decisions after three innings for
a guy after what he did last year, then I'd

(02:15:58):
suggest that we probably don't understand the grind, you and I.
But if you're telling me Gusto has earned at eleven
games in so he can unearn it in three innings
if he goes in there and blows two blows, two
opportunities to keep them in the lead. Correct, So you'd
want to move him out? How do we establish roles
defined if we're making decisions based on twenty at bats

(02:16:20):
or three innings? So we why if you're talking about feelings,
why don't we are we rewarding Scott for all the
stuff he was able to pull through last year and
keep a team together at times and in the bullpen
and do everything was asked? And we're if you're talking
about what's fair? Is it fair to run away on
him at three innings into a season? It doesn't mean

(02:16:40):
if you take it away that it can't be we
earned re earned, Okay, So how are you going to
earn poisoner? How you're going to earn the seventh inning
spot if your manager says, we can't put you in
high livered situation. We saw after body work, body work,
body work, they quit put Montero in those situations. But
it happened. There wasn't three innings worth. Hell, I gave
him three years worth of it. So and I'm not listening.

(02:17:03):
I'm not an apologist for Scott at all. My point
is is that I can't eleven games into the season
judge anybody's performance over the long hault. Now, if it continues,
then you're gonna have to say, listen, what's going on?
Is it mechanical? You got to start to look into it.
But I'm not willing to bury a guy's belief in

(02:17:25):
himself for the team's belief in him three and a
third innings into his twenty twenty five season.

Speaker 8 (02:17:30):
Fair enough, Phadrian wants to weigh in will get you
into the fold. But also to a position player that
I'm kind of really perplexed by how he's being treated
right now, we'll talk about that here on the other side.
Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven to ninety.

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Speaker 8 (02:18:46):
Ninety a late inning at triple to give the Astros
a one nothing lead there in the top of the seventh,
but comes through their huge spots against one of the
Mariner's high leverage guys able to give the ash a
chance to be able to win the game, which eventually
they did. But still it really was something later in

(02:19:07):
the game that I was like, wait a minute, what
are we doing here? The guy was your offense so
far to this point, and it was either the tenth
or the ninth inning is when his spot was up
in the order and Joe Spot had decided to go
with Victor Carrottini ended up working out because Karattini, oddly enough,
was the guy that ended up being the game winning
run with his RBI single. But at the time when

(02:19:30):
it happened, Sean I was like, you're wanting this young
guy to learn. You're wanting this young guy to fail
and succeed in different spots, and that's a spot right
there where you say, nah, moment's too big for you.
I can't have you out there right now. I just
again it goes back to we're gonna play him every day.
He's gonna be up here he's gonna play, doesn't play

(02:19:50):
the last couple of games.

Speaker 2 (02:19:51):
I get it.

Speaker 8 (02:19:52):
Working on some stuff. Sure, fine, But I mean to
the point you brought up when we were talking about
the pitching, don't you have to let these guys fail, Like,
don't you have to let let them go through those
situations to know, Hey, these happened in this league too.

Speaker 2 (02:20:04):
Well, if you're talking about Cam Smith, yeah, there's I
He's going to play every day, one hundred and fifty games.
He's here for a reason. He's getting for at bats
a day, and he's going to play through the tough
times because getting hit in the mouth is the best
growth in the world. Now you're telling me this about
about Cam Smith, why aren't you telling me this about
Taylor Scott. You just said you want to let him

(02:20:27):
grow and go through punches in the face and put
him in pressure situations, high leverage at bats, and now
eleven games in three innings in you're ready to move
Taylor Scott out of the seventh inning stretch, says seventh
inning role. So why because I found that what applied
to book, Because Scott's been in the league a little longer.
I mean, that's part of it.

Speaker 8 (02:20:46):
But I mean, I think it's also that Scott is
a guy that I feel like you probably got better
production than what really is his.

Speaker 2 (02:20:55):
So you think he overachieved, Yes, yes, okay, I do.

Speaker 1 (02:20:58):
I do so.

Speaker 2 (02:20:59):
So if that's the case, why would you have him
in that role in the first place? If you think
it's over achieving it and and eventually that's the enership
is going to sail because because he earn those innings,
all right, So but but he but three innings in,
He's he's played his way out of it.

Speaker 8 (02:21:14):
I'm not saying completely played his way out of it,
but I'm also saying that there are other guys that
have been put in the positions and have come through
in those spots. I mean, Stephen Okre is a guy
for example, you just have Monday Night happen, And I
get it.

Speaker 2 (02:21:28):
There's right here here a while. You got a heart
on for for for Steven Oker, right because when the
guy comes out there, what does he do? He strikes performs.
But if he were to struggle for three games or
three innings, you want to move him on. I mean,
I get your point. I know you're getting at here,
don't Yeah, don't you think it's some more knee jerk

(02:21:51):
right now than oh, this is who the guy is.

Speaker 8 (02:21:54):
I just know that this is a time of the
year when, as Joe Aspot has said, we don't want
to have this start that we had last year. And
I feel like if you're going with.

Speaker 2 (02:22:03):
Somebody that you know they five and six eleven games
in right much better than they were last year. Sure,
So I mean that's nice.

Speaker 8 (02:22:09):
And you're also getting much better pitching than you had
last year, either through injury or necessity whatever it was
that you had to completely just gas those guys year.

Speaker 2 (02:22:18):
It took the best thing they had last year.

Speaker 8 (02:22:20):
It was the best thing they had last year, and
they won the West because the pitching probably overperformed, so
probably it did.

Speaker 2 (02:22:26):
So to get to your point, absolutely, but guys, when
other guys are hurt, that's the job of why guys
get paid and get a paycheck every two weeks. Then
when people get hurt, and that's the job of a department,
a scouting department, and a talent evaluators and of Dana
Brown and Joe spot A two in the minor leagues.
Two make sure that you are developing them. But when
they're presented with an opportunity as a backup. You're looking

(02:22:48):
for production, and you got it from a pitching staff
that was banged up an injury after injury and came
in like Scott did last year and do his thing
like other guys have done two years when JP Frantz
did his thing. Look at Renel Bloe last year. Guys
that you didn't expect to do what they did at
some point during the season actually loaded him on their
back and got him through some difficult times. And so
if we're talking about guys who've earned it, the body

(02:23:09):
of work from Scott last year has earned more than
three innings of our belief. Now, if it starts to
go haywire, you don't want I'm not sitting there willing
to sit on a guy's look for a long time
and say failure after failure after failure. I don't think
we're there yet. But getting back to your original conversation
about Cam Smith, if he's here, I want him to
play every day. I don't need him to play every
third day. I actually, but I'm not Dane Brown and

(02:23:33):
I'm not Joe Spata who's making the decisions. And if
you feel it's he's in over his head, which I
don't think he is, but they're smarter than I am.
Then you got to get him every day at bats.
But if you think he's mature enough to handle and
good to continue to progress by playing every second or
third day, then you do it. My belief would he'll

(02:23:53):
eventually impress daily if you let him get more at
bats early. That's just my I think you got to
see pitches from live major league pitchers, the ones that
can dominate you. That's how I feel. But I'm not
making these decisions until I guess maybe they see three
or four games. But you got to put him in
there and let him fail or let him succeed before
we know what we got, and I think we know

(02:24:13):
there's potential. But you want the other P word, which
is production. The question is can you get the production
you want playing him every other or every third day. No,
you can't, and I don't think you can. But then again,
they've done a lot. One thing Joe Spotom wanted this year,
it told me straight to our face, is not to
have too many lineup changes. They had what one hundred

(02:24:36):
and forty four games or something last year with different
lineups out of a buck sixty two. That's that's quite
frankly ridiculous. You want to get to the point when
you come that it's that it's that the norm is
in a different lineup that the norm is. You don't
have to look at the lineup card. And I would
love if Cam Smith didn't have to look at the
lineup card. And if it's not going to be that way,

(02:24:58):
then have him go, Rake and triple A bring him back.
I'm a big believer that he's on the roster and
earned it. But you got to keep earning it and
the only way to do that is keep playing him.
But that's a decision for people that are above our
pay grade when it comes to baseball managing and making
those personnel decisions.

Speaker 8 (02:25:14):
Now, Joe Spot says he will be in the lineup today.
I mean, I believe it was said that they gave
him the last couple of days off just to work
on some stuff, pregame all of those other things. But
makes a nice play out and right field last night.
Comes through in a huge spot at the plate, I mean,
consistent at bats. I mean, that's that's more than anything.

Speaker 5 (02:25:31):
Is that.

Speaker 8 (02:25:32):
Yeah, there are going to be strikeouts, There is going
to be A goes back to the dugout and says, yeah,
I had no chance hitting that.

Speaker 2 (02:25:38):
Well, welcome to the big leagues, kid, That's how this is.
You want me to point to the guys on the
field who have been through that. Plenty shortstop has been
through that, and he's been able to work his way
through it, and he didn't come nearly as highly acclaimed
as Cam Smith has. And Payne has been able to
work his way through being you know how he's struggling
this year, but the plate, discipline, the rest, we'll let

(02:25:59):
him work through it. And he played every day. He
played every frigging day, and by the end of the
year is rookie year. Guess what he was an ALCS
and the World Series Most Valuable Player, And you got
a guy who comes even more highly regarded than then
the prospects we've seen come up here in a minute,
and Cam Smith is that guy. I just to me,

(02:26:20):
unless at the expense of everybody suffering and he's an
out all the time, I don't think we're there by
any stretch yet. I would personally play him every day
until he either played his way into where everybody's like
that's the man or needed to go down and learn
a few things, and that's not the end of the world.
I think he's here to stay, especially if you give
him more at bats. That's just me and my opinion,
but that's exactly why I'm not making on the top

(02:26:40):
dugout step the decisions. I'd like to see him in
the lineup getting four bats all the time. I need
five hundred bats from him, and then we can start
to say what kind of player is he? I think
we know well, we believe, I think, and that's usually
a good steal caitalent he is. That's that's without core,
that's that's there can be no question about it. But
talent and production or two differ things. I think he's

(02:27:01):
got an energy that adds to these guys as well.

Speaker 8 (02:27:03):
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up and you know, forty game increments, fifty game increments,
however we want to do that. But eleven games in

(02:28:59):
just kind of it back, even if it's just a fan,
but you're you're immersed into this thing overall evaluation. Eleven
games in about your team right now?

Speaker 12 (02:29:10):
Yeah, look, I think that you know, the team is
holding on strong. You know, we've had a couple, you know,
times where we didn't get that good of a start.
Bullpen's been pretty good, the bats still hasn't gotten on
all cylinders yet, you know, and we've been playing pretty
good defense. So look, overall, you know we're right there.

(02:29:33):
Just one game under five hundred eleven games in two
and a half out and you know, good things are coming.
So we feel really good about this club.

Speaker 2 (02:29:41):
Hey, Dana, we've talked about defining roles and then obviously
the the p word of production from those guys that
you've defined rules for. You mentioned the bullpen has been
pretty good. When do you know during a season is
it a field thing? Is it looking at the numbers
alone analytics part do you say this is the guy
who's long release? These the three guys who take care
of this is our seven? Eight to nine? We know

(02:30:02):
who eight nine is, But when do you know that
seven solidified? Is it a game to game thing or
is it a that's our guy? And how long does
it take before that trust in that in the bullpen
and there's certain roles to find, how long does it
take before it hits Yeah, So you look at.

Speaker 12 (02:30:19):
You look throughout the entire industry. You know, teams are
always value clubs are always evaluating at players. And when
you look at our pen, you know you're finding out
guys are developing, you know, like Gusta's really stepped it
up for you know, King has been really good. Oakurt's
been really good, and so you continue to let these

(02:30:41):
guys compete and you find spots for them where they
can have some success, whether you're matching lefty, lefty, righty righty.
You know, that's that's what you continue to do. As
you mentioned, the two two back end guys are pillars
back there, and as we continue to go through this,
we're we're seeing guys developed right before our eyes. And

(02:31:02):
so look, we feel like we've got a good group.
The pen has been pretty much locked down. And look,
when we get on all cylinders with the bat and
the rotation, I think that's when we're going to run off,
you know, seven in a row, ten in a row,
that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (02:31:18):
Data Brown Astro's GM for his weekly nine thirty visit
here on Wednesday, joins us here on the Seawan Salisbury
showing Sports Talk seven to ninety uh. Speaking of Taylor
Scott specifically, was really good for you guys last year,
did some great things at a time when you needed him,
kind of like we've mentioned Ronel Blanco in the starting
rotation doing stuff that like man was really good for
us well, eleven games in a little over three innings

(02:31:39):
and has not had his best stuff Dana, how istant
how important is it for you and Joe and the
team to trust what you see eleven games into a
season that he is going to turn it around, not
only for your team but for his psyche. How important
is it to trust early and let him pitch in
high leverage situations, to pitch through the trouble.

Speaker 5 (02:32:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:32:01):
Look, so when you talk about a guy like Scott,
you know, he's got really good stuff. You know, he's competitive,
he gave you a good year last year. And sometimes
guys lose confidence, but you know, you you stick with
them and you try to put him in spots where
they could succeed. And so I think we'll continue to
build him up and build his confidence. And you know,

(02:32:23):
the stuff still looks pretty good from a scouting eye,
you know, and from data wise, he still looks pretty good.
You know. It's just you got to make pitch certain
pitches at certain times and you have to trust the stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:32:34):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:32:35):
Uh, Pitchers go through this all the time, you know,
where they lose lose some confidence and then you know
they just have to restore it a little bit. Uh.
But make no mistake, we think he's going to be
one of our you know, pillars down down the stretch
in the middle of our.

Speaker 2 (02:32:50):
Bullpit to you, has he lost confidence? Danny Uran. We
talk about you being around hanging when you feel like
a guy's done that, you kind of go around, rub
shoulders with him and tell him to stick with it.
We've had this conversation about other players. Where is he
when you look into his eye and when you when
you see him. Where's his confidence level right now?

Speaker 11 (02:33:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (02:33:09):
I just think it's the confidence and trusting your stuff,
not so much the mental confidence. Just trust your stuff,
remember that your stuff can play at the major league level.
Don't try to nibble, you know, don't try to pitch
on the edges all the time. You know, oftentimes you
got a challenge the hitter. You got to get in
the zone early, and you have to avoid those walks
and avoid falling behind. And you fall behind. Look, this

(02:33:31):
is the big leagues. If you fall behind, these major
league hitters will make you pay. And so I think
it's more, Hey, trust your stuff, you know, regain your
confidence in your stuff, and remember that your stuff is
the same. Just go in his zone and you're going
to be fine. And I think he's starting to understand that.
And you know, look, he's seeing some of his you know,

(02:33:51):
other teammates that are really having some success right now,
and he could help build off that.

Speaker 2 (02:33:57):
Dany, you've been one of baseball's before you came here
to land in here, one of the you know, cut
your teeth but being a great talent evaluator and seeing
it and now's a GM role doing all the things
you have to do there plus seeing talent. So let's
get to Yan Das. You told us on this show
that he was the future at catcher when Maldy was
here and you were spot on, which allowed you guys
to move Corey Lee. All right, so here we are

(02:34:18):
now in a wonderful year last year, a guy that's
reeling a little bit. Take yourself out of the GM role.
You and I are sitting in the ballpark and we've
watched eleven games. What's your swing evaluation for YANR. Das
right now, not counting last year, what you're seeing eleven
games in this year?

Speaker 12 (02:34:36):
Yeah, I think you put your arms around them and
you sit and talk to them. You pull them to
the side and you say, look, you know you can
hit at the big league level. We already know that.
What you have to do is just get a good pitch,
be patient, don't try to do too much. Oftentimes the
players will try to do too much and they'll come
out of themselves and they'll come out of their swing,
and you know, and I think it's one of those

(02:34:58):
cases where he's trying to do too much. And I think,
right now, if we could just get him to look,
be disciplined, don't chase, make the picture, come into the
strike zone, don't try to do too much. I think
that's the speech we would give him because he's trying
to do too much. Look, the kid it to ninety
nine last year with a bunch of home runs, and

(02:35:19):
he knows he's got a good ops and all those
good things when you talk about the numbers. But you know,
sometimes it's as simple as simplifying it and saying, look,
look for a strike and do damage. Lay off the
off speed, lay off the stuff that's out of the zone,
don't get the picture to get you to expand his zone.

(02:35:40):
And I think that's that's where our speech is right
now for him. And that's kind of like how I
see it. I think he's going to heat up, no
doubt about it. This guy's way too talented of a hitter,
and so you know, frustration grows when guys start off
slow and they struggle, but you just have to keep
him mentally strong.

Speaker 2 (02:36:00):
Dana, what kind of guy numbers wise, Like, let's just
play pay it forward a decade from now? What kind
of consistent numbers guys at the plate average RBI?

Speaker 1 (02:36:09):
Who is he?

Speaker 2 (02:36:10):
Home runs? What kind of guy? When you said, here's
the numbers I expect from Yiner, what do they look like?

Speaker 12 (02:36:17):
Yeah, I mean I expect Jiner to you know, hit
somewhere near two eighty to three hundred, you know, twenty
plus home runs with an over an eight hundred ops
at the catcher spot. Right, He's done that and people
will doing that. Did it in twenty three, did it
in twenty four, and we feel like he'll do it
in twenty five. You know, it's not you know, those

(02:36:38):
are attainable numbers, and he's already you know, shown that
he could do that, and so you know, that's pretty
much who he is. You know, he's a guy that
can hit, you know, somewhere in that sixth sixth slot
and you know, do some damage. And so we know
that it will come. You know, oftentimes as I mentioned before,
the hitters are a little bit of head of the

(02:36:58):
pitchers are a little bit ahead of the hitters. And
so you know, guys are still getting at timing right,
They're still locking in on the zone, and so I
would expect good things coming from yer.

Speaker 5 (02:37:09):
Danny.

Speaker 2 (02:37:09):
You've watched young talent flourish Ronald Acuna. You've seen it
happen here as well, guys, Jiner being one of them
when he got the job full time. So let's talk
cam Smith and just from you know, we get questions
on this show and I always break one to you
about Okay, help us with this because you're more expert
than we are. Can Cam Smith be? And I know

(02:37:29):
that Joe puts the lineup and you've always deferred to
that saying Joe makes the lineup decisions. But from your
evaluation standpoint, can a guy get better on the major
league level at his age playing once every three days
or once every other day? Should do we need five
hundred at bats as a rookie for us to see
who Cam Smith is.

Speaker 12 (02:37:49):
Yeah, And the answer the first question, guys do get
better at the major league level. It happens every year
every time guys develop, you know, they get up there
when they're young. I think Cam Smith's gonna be all right.
He's still controlling the zone. You know, pictures that they've
been pitching him pretty tough. I think last last night's
triple was a, you know, a big stepping stone for

(02:38:10):
him because he was going through a down period. I mean,
sometimes we have to realize these guys, they struggle when
they come up to the big leagues. You know, I
remember when Bregman first came up, he struggled a little bit.
Tucker first came up, he struggled a little bit. They
were right in the same area.

Speaker 10 (02:38:25):
Uh you know.

Speaker 12 (02:38:25):
In fact, I think Bregman was like one for twenty
eight or something like that. I mean, yeah, yeah, he's
been to young players and you know, make no mistake,
this guy competed at a high level in college. He
got some minor n get back. He came into camp.
You know, he made this team because he played hard
and played well. He's really developing in right field, and uh,

(02:38:49):
you know, getting him in there with the action of
his look. Understand that you have the talent to play
at the major league level. We've seen a lot of
young players come up and do well and you know,
we think that this guy can really turn the corner.
And at some point, you know, you guys will see that,
oh wow, he's back. So he's getting there and he's

(02:39:10):
buying in, you know, to what he needs to buy
into to get to hit at the big league level.
But make no mistake, we feel really good about cam
Smith in his future here.

Speaker 2 (02:39:18):
Yeah, I love him. I think his energy's off the charts,
and he adds something that that did h And I
think there's a mental toughness from my vantage point, but
you know better than I. Okay, eleven games in, has
there been somebody that say, wow, this is a pleasant
surprise for us already that you're saying, damn, we're getting
more out of him than I actually even expected. Who
is that body?

Speaker 12 (02:39:40):
Well, look, we Rogers got off to a pretty good start.
You know he uh, you know, he took a o
for last night, but you know he's he's been swinging
the back pretty well. And and so with us needing
some you know, some offense at second base by one
once we put two vay and left, you know, we've
I really feel like this guy could turn the corner

(02:40:02):
and get back to you know what he was you know,
a few years ago, you know, when he hit over
to eighty one a gold glove, he was a you know,
he was within the top five picks in the draft.
I think it was like third in the country. So
this is a talented player that kind of lost his
way a little bit. And he's you know, he's headed
in the right direction. And you know, he got off

(02:40:22):
to a pretty good start with us. As I mentioned,
he went oh for last night. But this guy's got
a chance to turn the corner and be a nice
piece for us, you know at the second base position.

Speaker 2 (02:40:32):
Danny, you and I talked last year about you know,
small ball can be a really good thing when you're
not driving it and getting slugging everybody. Now that's what
we're looking for. But back to back nights, even though
one got you got beat by a bunt, good moving
him over, and then you executed a bunt, and then
last night the same way. I mean, well, I know
we're not getting caught up in the butt thing. Small
ball matters and moving runners over. That had to be

(02:40:54):
a pleasant for you to see that you can win
that way as well.

Speaker 12 (02:40:59):
Yeah, small ball was. I thought it was a great
win last night. It was a team win. We pretty
much had to use our entire bench. That's what it's
all about. You know, you go deep into these games,
especially when you go in the extra innings, you know
somebody's gonna have to come out and be the hero.
And last night, you know, Taratini came up with a
big hit. You know, we got Cam the had to

(02:41:19):
triple those two guys provided the RBIs. It was a
total team effort. The bullpen was really good. They came
in and shut the door, and so look that's a
big team win, a big confidence builder. You know, we
got a good one to night this afternoon and hopefully,
you know, we'll get to five hundred today and go
home at five hundred and get a chance to come

(02:41:39):
in there and win some games at Dyking Park.

Speaker 2 (02:41:42):
Should there be a soul in Houston worried about Jordon's
power or is that gonna just come in bunches like
we usually expect to see it.

Speaker 12 (02:41:54):
Yeah, we go home runs coming bunches all the time.
I wouldn't worry about Jordon's power. Look, if you're worried
about your and out of tower, I thank you. Probably
this guy got as much power as anybody in this game.
I mean, this guy can power light power power. I mean,
this guy hits balls really far. I'm not worried about

(02:42:14):
his power. I think he's he's gonna be fine. Uh.
You know, he got off to somewhat of a slow start,
got a big home run the other day, you know,
and you know they've been pitching him tough. I've been
running from him and he's taking his walks. You know,
It's just it just goes to show. Like, Look, it's
a long season for a reason. You know, you guys
have heard me say multiple times on the show. It's

(02:42:36):
a it's a marathime, not a sprint, you know. And
this is not for the faint at heart. You know,
you have to continue to grind, continue to do things right,
continue to do things right that helps you win ball games.
And you know, we'll get through the season on top.
And I have full confidence in this team, our coaching staff,
and I know our fans are back in us. So look,
we're ready to go. It's just that we just got

(02:42:58):
to get hot right now. We're right there and there
five hundred, and as I always say, you get hot,
you're at five hundred. You get hot, you run off
five in a row, seven in a row. Before you
know you're five games over, you're seven games over and
good things are happening.

Speaker 5 (02:43:11):
Yeah, no time, we have to keep grinding.

Speaker 2 (02:43:14):
Yeah, No, twelve and twenty four start this year, which
is a good thing. Real quick data update on Spencer aarraghetti.

Speaker 12 (02:43:21):
Yeah, freak accident. You know, he's being evaluated. You know,
it looks like you know, it's gonna be some time,
and we're gonna still need some time to get the
full evaluation, but at least it's gonna be you know,
I would say, you know, six weeks or so. You know,
hopefully some guys feel a lot faster and you know

(02:43:42):
they can come back a little sooner. But look, ultimately,
it's one of those freak accidents. And man, it really
it really hurts you lose the starter. Yeah, it really
really hurts.

Speaker 2 (02:43:56):
How does that rotation look now, though? How do you
move it around real quick? I don't want to keep
you much longer. How do you move it around with
Spencer out?

Speaker 12 (02:44:04):
Yeah, there's a chance that we're gonna put Gusto in
there to fill that spot. You know, he's been a
starter for us. We we broke camp with him in
the pin. But we knew at some point we're gonna
have to build him back up because we had some
of our bullpen guys that were down, like Fort and Whitley,
and so we just were probably gonna you know, he
would have been the first guy coming up from Triple A,
so it probably slide Gusto into into that start, you know,

(02:44:28):
and then you know, we we'll shape up with Valdez Brown.
You know, Gusto Blanco west Netski. West Netski's throwing the
ball very well. So he's been that pleasant you know
surprise that you talked about if you're talking about a
guy is from the pitching standpoint that really had stepped it,
or he's been really good up to ninety seven, you know,
which is really really good. So it looks great with

(02:44:51):
the scouting guy too. So look, we were still in
pretty good shape, you know. Uh, you know, we don't
want anything else to happen. Uh, but we still we
feel like we're there is still pretty good shape. And look,
sometimes these guys will get hurt, they come back, they'll
be a shot in the arm later and they'll help
you ride it out all way to the end. So uh,
well we'll make the adjustment and we'll be fine in

(02:45:12):
a rotation.

Speaker 5 (02:45:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:45:13):
Go still gives you a little bandwidth and versatility, which
is nice. Dana, great stuff, man. We'll see when you
get back home, and we look forward to next week's conversation.
Thanks you, Bud.

Speaker 12 (02:45:22):
Absolutely always good talking to you. Hanging air as so fans,
We're coming.

Speaker 1 (02:45:25):
There, you go.

Speaker 2 (02:45:26):
Appreciate that's dand Brown. We'll come back finish up next.
The Sean Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 8 (02:45:34):
Pop Isaac from Creighton, a guard who has a lot
of good experience, twenty seven points against.

Speaker 2 (02:45:41):
Kansas and a hell of a program at Creighton. Doug sherm,
it's created something or Doug leader, his father's created something special. Man.
Absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 2 (02:45:59):
That's another that you can get that there. Sean, great
stuff today.

Speaker 8 (02:46:03):
Thanks enjoy, We'll see you tomorrow. There you go, master, Yeah,
there you go. Round one gonna get going. Don't forget.
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