Early Easter Edition: Astros Vs. Padres Series Preview, Texans Offseason Buzz, Rockets Vs. Warriors Matchup Preview

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salisbury, Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Sean Salisbury, Salisbury to usc troupe, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Dan matthewscuse, this is the Sewan Salisbury Show, six o'clock
here on Sports Talks seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (00:26):
This is Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (00:29):
Chris Gory here with.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
You, sitting in for Dan Matthews today as we have
got a big, big weekend ahead, folks. We got the
Astros back in action with the Padres, We've got the
Rockets back in the playoffs. And oh, by the way,
one week from today, Seawan will be sitting in this
seat talking about who the Texans took with their twenty

(00:53):
fifth pick in the first round unless they traded it,
of course.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yes, and uh and did you get the feeling real quick? Gordy,
good morning, Good to see him, man. That what Dan's
already on a country club schedule. Gracious, the guy Waltz
is in kicks a little ass and now he's already
load management for Dan this early.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
He was a little bit. He told me about it
weeks and weeks ago. It was it's a religious trip
around Eastern So you know, when you give that reason
You're like, okay, man, do what you Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
You can't criticize what the religion part to it? Yeah,
I think golf trip. My wife's pregnant and we're going
into labor this morning. Yeah, that that stuff will get
it done. Now I know he's he is. It's a
you know, like a walk run thing to raise money,
but also a spiritual experience and stuff. So good on him,
and it's good to have you in here. And you

(01:40):
mentioned the sports weekend. It really is. In the NFL
Draft we cover up. But think about Discordy at this
time of year, when's the last time you got a
team that's a division winner in baseball? You got a
team that's division winner in football, yep, and you got
the number two seed in basketball, and you know they're
with their home opener what's Saturday night against the team,

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and then the Jimmy Butler talk. There's so much, there's
so many layers to it, but it's kind of a
nice Uh, it's a good sport. And then you got
the Padreser the best team baseball coming to town. So
hell of a sports weekend. But all three it's not
like you're talking about the Rockets. Oh Man, wonder who
they're gonna draft. It is how far can they go
in these long series and is it gonna hold true
that the more talented or better team in a long

(02:24):
series usually wins in the NBA, usually especially in this round.
But the question is I think Golden State's favored in
the series still they were as a yesterday, but it
went down.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
That's what I So here's where we get into a
difficult part of breakdown is a lot of the analysts
out there are still saying the Rocket Like, if we're
just looking at numbers, the Rockets are the better team. Obviously,
they're the two seed. They are supposed to put impost
their will and win this series. But Vegas keeping Ony
Vegas isn't putting the line. It's the betters that are

(02:58):
moving the line, and the betters the public is betting
on Golden State and rightfully so. This is the first
time of the Rockets have been the playoffs in five years.
Golden State Warriors still have Steph Curry, they added oh
by the way, Jimmy Butler. Steve Curry is still there,
Draymond Green, and they've won multiple multiple championships over the year.
So you understand why the betting public is on.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Them, and you started to see though, Gordy, when it started,
it where it started, and over the last few days,
unless overnight it changed, but where it went the other
way where the sharps as it gets closer, the guys
who actually make money doing this on a regular basis
started to move the line. It felt like towards the Rockets.
And now I don't know if what happened over and
I haven't looked at the line this morning, but you're

(03:39):
exactly right, and in truth going in, I mean, we're here,
but you'd say, okay, the moxie, the championship experience, the
things they did, and look what they've done since Jimmy
Butler got there, which we'll beg the questions we go
on today similar circumstances. If you had to do it
over again, if you're the Rockets, would you jump into
it or you good with where you are? Because he's
made a huge impact. I don't think they could win

(04:01):
an the Western Conference if Jimmy wasn't there as good
as Steph Currys. It was like a piece that then
they've been good at doing that at Golden State. So yeah,
I h as the sharp start to do it, and
I don't know which way it's going to move. The
closer we get to Saturday being today's Friday. But yeah,
this is I get why the public and it's Golden State.

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It's a brand. And then the brand they have and
with Steph Curry, they have been nothing but dominant since
they've when I say nothing but but for the most part,
they've been the equivalent of what the Kansas City Chiefs
and what the Chiefs have been and what good teams
are when they go on a two or three year runder,
what the Astros have been in truth right, and they
really have. So I would like to think we got

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to call that a dynasty. When you win two to
three championships in a certain amount of time, dynasty sits.
And so that's who they are. The question is are
they that team now? And was Jimmy Butler the perfect
piece for them? We're gonna find out. But Rockets, I
think are more depth talented, the two best players in
the He's reside in Golden State and you and I
both know that.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Yeah, And look in the playoffs, you got you got
to score, you got to fill it up.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
And that was one of the talking points.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
Yesterday I went over to the practice facility and you know,
everybody's talking defense. It's defense. That's what this team's foundation
has been built on. Under emails.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
They needed buying with that, right, Gordy Yah.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
Yeah, absolutely, and they've gotten it and all these guys
it's it is.

Speaker 6 (05:21):
It is a key of what they're built on. But
you still got to score, right, That's.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
The tough part here is we could game plan all
day about slowing down Steph Curry and how do we
do this, and let's send a double team and all that,
But when you get stops on that end, you got
to go score on the other end. If they're not
doing that, that's where this thing could get could get ugly.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
He I doubt we're going to see many Detroit Pistons
New York Knicks eighty eight eighty six games when Ewing
and Mahorne and the group was playing. You know that
that doesn't usually exist here exactly. Now listen, obviously, and
this is a captain obvious statement. You play good defense
and keep the ball out of the basket, you have
to score less. But when it gets down to it,

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you have got to be able to knock down threes.
You got to make free throws. You know, it's a
common theme every Think about what we were saying about
the Houston Cougars and think about what we're saying about
the NC two tournament. Now. While it's heavy, heavy, reliant
on guard playing perimeter, playing college basketball, gold State still
relies on it. Yet they got guys that can go
and mash and bang and antagonize. But it truly is

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you got to defend and contest shots, especially when you're
playing Steph Curry in this group and running people at
him and not letting him dominate the series. But you
have to free throws are going to come into play
and making sure you're not giving people open looks and
stay out of foul trouble. But you're exactly right. It's
almost like if you had a point total goal to
get it can't be ninety six because now you're putting

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even more pressure on your defense and to stay out
of foul trouble. That's the big part of it. I'm
anxious to see how a young team deals with a
team that's been in this situation what feels like one
hundred times in the last ten to fifteen years.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
For people who don't remember it has been the twenty
one to twenty two seasons. The last time the Warriors
won the championship, they lost to the Conference semis. The
next year and last year missed the playoffs, and in
nineteen twenty and twenty twenty one they missed the playoffs
both of those years. So they've had a lot less
postseason success the last five years than maybe remember. But

(07:20):
of course fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, seventeen eighteen, they won
the championships those years, but Klay Thompson was there. He
was part of those teams. This team's a little bit
different when they were younger, too, Gordion, Yes, yeah, but
having Jimmy Butler here is obviously a different dynamic. But
when I go back and look at that box score
from that playing game the other night, it's it's crazy,
Sean to look at see like literally it was Steph

(07:41):
Curry dropped thirty seven, Jimmy Butler dropped thirty eight, and
basically nobody else did anything right.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
It was on with our for good friends that come
over here, Nate Griffin and Fox this morning. He asked
the question about who do you let beach? I mean
when I say let where's your focus on the other
four and let Steph get his or try to take
stuff out and make the other four beat you. Well,
I mean it's you know, for me, Gordy, I think
I'm pretty sure how you'd feel. I just can't let

(08:09):
that guy take the series over, because if he gets
in that rhythm, that'll be enough. But the key is,
you can't go Jordan and Pipping on this or it
can't be you know, Jordan gets forty, Pippin gets thirty four,
and the rest of the guys rebound, play defense, and
you just smatter around a couple of jumpers by Jimmy
Packson or Steve Kerr or Craig Hodges. You have to

(08:29):
I think that you can't let number two and three,
which would be Jimmy Butler. Draymond's not a big scorer,
but doing the things that he does, so I would
take my chances with the other guys. But if you
let them, if they do that, Gordy, regardless of the
other you're going to be very tough to beat. If
both guys are pushing forty in the mid thirties, that'll
be a hard thing to do. Batman and Robin can't
play that well.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
Yeah, Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
By the way, his last five games against the Rockets,
he's averaged eighteen points six rebounds for assis. He hasn't
been as deadly the last handfull of games you've seen
the Rockets. But I mean it felt like every time
he played the Rockets for years when he was in Miami,
it felt like the he would just go off because
it was like, oh, it's hometown team.

Speaker 6 (09:10):
Got to show show up and show out.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
But it is a funny topic you brought up though
about he was available to trade that line there was
some connection to the Rockets on would the Rockets get
in on a bidding war and all this, and you
just maybe you look back at hindsight and say, what
could have been? You didn't want to mess with this
young core what you got here, right, But you look
back and go, oh, if that ends up being the
piece that beats you and eliminates you, you're you look

(09:35):
back and go, damn, maybe we should have made that.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
If nothing else, take on a little bit of a headache,
but also prevent him from going and being on another team.
Do you have to deal with in the Western Conference?
So let me ask you, you got to do it
over again, knowing the young and I didn't even want
to say fragid persons. They don't seem fragile. I think
their coach has them, has pushed them to the point
where they understand they're a good team and what it takes.
But we're going to see in a series against the

(09:58):
team that's been there a million times? Would you do it?
What would you have getten? Knowing what you know now?
The impact he made a Golden State, And it's different
because that's a team full of veterans. You know, you've
got guys that locker room's policed by the Kurr doesn't
need to, he's around, but it's veterans here, it's policed
by Udoka And even with Van Vliet and Dylan Brooks's veterans,

(10:20):
we know the voice right now, we can you can
pretty much tell it. So I would ask you what
would you have been willing to give up? Or would
you have done it now knowing what you know of
the impact he made there? Or would it have been
a different impact here because of the veteran lack of
the Steph Curries and Draymond Green's there.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
I think I think you stick with what got you here.
I mean as the two seed, they had pretty good success.
You're right, he may's a heck of a head coach.
All these young pieces you sucked for five years to
get here, right, to get these pieces, to get these
draft picks, brah. And that's when I heard so many
people were like, Oh, let's go get this guy. Let's
straight for this guy. And I'm like, why why give

(10:58):
away these pieces you earned? You earned Alpi shing Gun,
you earned, Jalen Green, Jabari Smith, all these guys, like,
don't give them up, Like keep you wrote you got
here for a reason. Stick with these guys who got
you here, and let's go play.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, I'm not sure. As much as I love him
as a player, I'm not sure they made the wrong decision.
Now you have to validate it by not letting me
take the series over, no question.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
And Alpi Shangun even said it yesterday. You talked with
the media, said, look, we just got to go play
our game. We gotta go do what God us here
this year to get to the two seed in the West.
Just go play our game. Don't think of this of
any bigger You're just playing. It's a one, one game.
By one game, and I thought he said it right.
He's got the right mentality. You can't be looking ahead,
you can't go it's the series. Is it going to
go seven? Play this one game, win this one game.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
If you think we're going to seven, don't forget about two, three,
and four what it's going to take to get there.
And in truth, they've had to beat a ton of
good teams to get to the two seed, right, so
this is nothing different. Now you're just facing the team
at max seven games and at minimum four games, and
you know what it isn't like you don't know what
Jimmy Butler and Steph Curry and what Golden State's all about.

(12:08):
There's not gonna be a whole lot of surprises. You're
just gonna have to toughen up on the defensive end,
which they've gotten better this year, and you're gonna have
to knock down shots when you get an opportunity, and
Shen Gouon, in my mind, is going to have to
and I think you will have a big series. I
think this is a fun matchup and I do think
that I understand why the Golden State Warriors are favored,
but I do think the depth wise and the ability

(12:30):
for different guys. Listen, if Golden State, if Steph Curry
and Jimmy Butler aren't one in two six of the
seven games, if it goes out long in this series,
Golden State ain't winning it. If Draymond Green or somebody
else is the leading scorer, they're in trouble on this one.
If Jalen Green doesn't and shn guon does you still
are in it? If shn gun doesn't and Thompson has

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a day or Brooks has the day, or Van Vliet
has a day. The depth of scoring on this roster,
if they're all playing well, is deeper than there. It's
just that their top two scores of their mind.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
Now that said, when he's first two, you don't want
to go agreed, you don't want to go out to
Oakland tied one one.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
I don't It may not win well for you. That's
exactly right. All right.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
We're just getting started here in the Shawn Salisbury Show.
We return how long has it been since the Rockets
won a playoff game here in Houston. We're going to
go down memory lane a little bit and see if
you guys can even put into hide sight what you
know how long it has been. We're talking more about
that next here on Shawn Salisbury Show Sports talks of
a ninety.

Speaker 7 (13:30):
More Sean Salisbury get in, strap in and ride in.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
Here's the mother stuff.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
Just to put it into concept, how long it has
been since the Rockets won a playoff game at Tota Center.
Because remember twenty twenty they made the playffs's last time
they made the playoffs. We played in stupid bubble out
there in Florida. I'm glad they were. They found a
way to do it amidst COVID and all that stuff.
But crazy times. But the number one movie in the
country was Avengers End Game. I mean that's been that

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feels like that's been.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
Forever, right.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I feel like we've had like Marvel and Avengers, like
eight thousand of them since then. It's like every fifteen
minutes there's a new Marvel Avengers type movie.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
How many fanos memes have you seen on the internet
since then?

Speaker 6 (14:12):
Right, here's some other historical things.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
Prince Harry and Megan Markle had just had their first child.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Had they been had they been kicked out of the
royalty yet they had not yet?

Speaker 5 (14:23):
Yeah, President Trump awarded Tiger Woods the Presidential medical Freedom
on this day.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
I remember seeing the press conference vividly and Tiger standard.
Has it been that long since he gave it to him?

Speaker 6 (14:34):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (14:35):
I feel like, honestly like that was two years ago,
But it seems like every time I turned around, Tiger's standing.
I guess the newest one is these dayton A Trump right,
I mean the dayton so Yeah, I cannot believe that's
been six years.

Speaker 6 (14:46):
Here here, here's where it's really going to start to
feel dated.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
On that day, the last time the Rockets won a
home playoff game of Toyta Center. The Astros beat the
Royals that day six to four, led by Garrett Cole
on the mound, George Springer and Carlos Korea had home
runs and Roberto Sooner got the save.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Okay, that's I remember all the stuff that went into
that bringing was you bringing no Sooner here? Right? Wasn't
that part of it? I mean the whole thing he.

Speaker 6 (15:11):
Had in the array of zero point five the right right?

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh my goodness, So the Royals and Springer real quick
sidebar to throw in. Do you know who the league
leaders and hits are? The top four?

Speaker 8 (15:25):
No?

Speaker 6 (15:26):
Oh? Got it? They all form asters.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Tucker, Al two Ve, Bregman and Springer.

Speaker 6 (15:33):
Can you imagine them all on one team?

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah? Yeah, I can still somebody that might sent me
that yesterday. I'm like, I'm thinking, well, why this. Then
I start to look at the naves of the face.
I'm like, you have got It's like it's like Tucker
with twenty or something, and it gets to you know,
the next one's al Twov with like nineteen and then
and You're like, you got to be kidding me. We're

(15:55):
sitting here staring at this and these cats at least me.
Either it was the month of the scene, but the
four there's four names, it was either month. I didn't
even look at the whole cash. I'm like, oh great,
people are gonna love this one even worse than Kyle,
Tucker and Bregman being the players of the week in
Major League Baseball. Uh what was it last week? Yeah?
So go ahead, please continue.

Speaker 6 (16:13):
The things you get. You just go. Man, if they
were all on the same team that'd.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Beat oh an All Star team, No, they actually had
him here, all four of them.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
Again, we're running there. Last time, the Rockets won a
home playoff game of Toya de center. What was happening?

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (16:26):
Sewn?

Speaker 5 (16:26):
The Texans were just going through their rookie mini camp,
Their first draft picks had just gotten into town. First
rounder Titus Howard was sitting the practice field for the
first time.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
And still not it still doesn't know his position.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
Right, They were trying to figure out where they were
gonna plug him in. Second rounder Lonnie Johnson Junior had
just gotten here. And man, tell you what, head coach
Bill O'Brien, we were ready to see what Deshaun Watson
was going to do in his third season in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Good gracious, Now think about that. We got one guy
who's not only gone to the team's two hundred and
thirty million and may not see the field again at
least this year. Who who else? O'Brien twenty nineteen and
Titus out Like you said, we've were still looking six
years later of what position he is going to play? Interior?
I mean he's been everywhere, so yeah, and then Deshaun

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Watson in his third year in the league.

Speaker 6 (17:16):
Right, man, we were so optimistic.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
And well, you think a few things have happened on
and off the field with him since then. Yeah, talking
about a guy who crow barred some stuff in in
six years.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
Right, Uh, Kyler Murray had just won as the number
one pick in the NFL draft.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Right, the Josh Rosen experiment didn't work out, and now
he's in Arizona and here we are, And since then
we've wondered if he understood the playbook and never took
it with him or was studying, And now he's worth
about what two hundred million bucks or something.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
So you also, Tiger Woods had just won the Masters,
which of.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
All those might be the most shocking of them all. Yeah,
shocking of them all. Matter of fact, the last time
a major I mean at the Masters, but obviously Deshambo
and Rory at the US Open last year. But think
about all the I mean, the movement you had at
that termed everybody was tuned in to watch, right, Yeah,
now this past weekend because it was McElroy, because it
was lived, because it was Deshamble, and we're waiting for

(18:08):
mclaroy to lose his mind and then gain it back,
which he did. The ratings were through the roof and
the last time the ratings were probably that high, I
bet or when Tiger Woods one in twenty nineteen. Yeah,
I'll bet you so man alive, dude, you're a I mean,
I'm old enough how it is, and you keep bringing that.

Speaker 6 (18:24):
So a few more here.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
This is the last time the Rockets won a home
playoff game that took in a center May sixth, twenty
nineteen sean. There were some things that had not happened yet. Uh,
Deshaun Watson had not had any inappropriate massages.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yet, well, at least to our knowledge.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
The Saints had just been robbed by the NOLA no
call against the Rams in the NFC Championship game. Some
a young man, a freshman at Duke named Zion Williamson
had just busted out his shoe against North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Remember that, Oh, I do completely other things.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
That had not happened yet. Joe Burrow had not yet
won a heisman at LSU. They had not not even.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
One, so we had no idea just how good they were.

Speaker 6 (19:02):
Gonna know how good?

Speaker 5 (19:02):
Yeah, Joe Burt was just a guy, right right, coming
out in twenty eighteen into nineteen, just a guy.

Speaker 8 (19:07):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
We were still not aware of the astro sign stealing scandal.
That's right, even though it was seventeen. We hadn't it,
hadn't it hadn't come out public about the result. We right,
Kobe was still alive, Lebron had not yet won a
title for the Lakers.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
They were still wondering the host, can he get us
the glory? He still hasn't. Oh, never mind, it was
o kid was right, and that's the last one. COVID
hadn't happened yet. We didn't even know wearing masks everywhere.
It wasn't even a thing yet.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Do you remember when I'll tell you when the first
I had started to think about it? Was it though?
Wasn't that the year the Miamis Weren't we in South
Beach that year? Was that the Miami super Bowl? That
was in nineteen And I can remember I started to
get like, and I'm not feeling very you know, you
just start to work, and then all of a sudden,
the talk. It was a little the fall of it,
I mean, the late fall of eighteen, but ninth started

(19:58):
ramp up, and then like February and then Mark, You're like,
what you thought? It was a couple of days that's
what came right, So oh my, now, now that dude,
that is a you think about that from the Tiger
not went into a gust after all that happened to
him and Covid And like you said, we hadn't seen
the greatest offensive season, one of the greatest seasons we've
ever seen in college football. With that group, we had

(20:20):
no idea. And now Burrows highly paid, Chase is the
highest paid receiver in the league, was pretty good in
Stingley's the highest paid corner and they were all in there.
They were all playing at the time. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
Crazy, And so just to close it out again, this
is what we're hoping that the Rockets will getting home
playoff win this Sunday against Toyota Center in Toyota Center
against the Warriors. But the last time they won May six,
twenty nineteen, here was your starting five for the Rockets.
It was James Harden, the leader, Eric Gordon, Chris Paul
click Capella, and PJ.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
Tucker. None of those guys on the team anymore.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Hence why when people say, well, did they have a
strong hold over you, No, we have no idea because
we weren't on this none of us were. It has
nothing to do with what they did and what we'll do.
And I would say a little bit different depth. On
the offense, it was James and everybody else, you know,
and now it's different. So yeah, that's the things that
that's the starting five.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yeah, and your bench was the Nay, Austin Rivers, Gerald Green,
and Emon Schumpert.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
I guess how many of those guys are here.

Speaker 6 (21:22):
Zero?

Speaker 5 (21:22):
That's exactly the Warriors, by the way, the coach was
it was Mike d'antell exactly right. The Warriors, on the
other hand, had the only three guys that are still around,
Steph Curry, Draymond Green and Kevon Looney. Everybody else is different,
including that this guy Kevin Durant who dropped thirty four
points that night.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Right, and they also and the general manager is different too,
Bob Myers. Right, he was there and it wasn't there.
So that's at the time, right, that is a that's
a hell of a list. That does age you a
little bit. But when you start to think about it,
because if I said, hey, when did Tiger Tiger get
that Medal of Honor right or Medal of freedom? Is
that what it was?

Speaker 6 (21:56):
Metal freedom?

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Right? You would have I guarantee we would have said, oh,
well was twenty twenty two? Yeah, twenty nineteen. That's a
lot can happen, and you think about it, they had
no idea when they woke up to Burrow was going
to be Joe cool.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
Right, Yeah, it's just funny, funny to think about.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
It, jes Now, we don't want to now, let's not
be having you sit in the same chair in me
and you that in twenty thirty one, we're having the
same conversation between the six years that the last time
they went home.

Speaker 6 (22:23):
Yeah, we go, we go, guys. At the time, Jalen
Green was just a guy.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
Now here's a three time NBA All Star and led
to Rockets to two titles.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Now do twenty nineteen what Jalen Green was doing?

Speaker 9 (22:34):
Right?

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Oh? Yeah, he was what's he third year in the
league now?

Speaker 6 (22:37):
Right?

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, this third year in the league. So we're going to
say we were going to say he was dominating his
junior high basketball team.

Speaker 6 (22:44):
He was playing a freshman on varsity average twenty right,
seventh grade or something.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Right, Hey, bring marbles to school, We're gonna play marbles. Right. Yeah,
it's a little perspective. But hopefully it's not six years
between the next one. I don't think it will be.
And hopefully they get out in this series.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
A little perspective seven days from now, what we'll we
be saying about what the Texans did in the first
round of the draft will touch a little bit on that.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
Come out next here on Sean Salisbury Show and for.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
The Sean Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
The Tennessee Titans did with the number one pick, And
I've been keeping track of this, look at a lot
of mock drafts and all this. I'm starting starting to
get into it now, and man, it is just overall
consensus that one Cameron Ward from the University of Miami
is going to go number one overall to the Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
And I just I keep going back and forth.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
I know they need a quarterback, but like, are we
talking ourselves in the like is this gonna end up
being the twenty whatever that was the Draft war Canny
Pickett went first round and then you know, like there
was Desmond Ritter.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
Is this going to be that quarterback draft class?

Speaker 5 (23:52):
And if it is, Titans might be making a mistake,
Like are we talking ourselves into cam wardens the best quarterback?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Now? I think I think that's a big part of it. Gordy.
I think the optics of if if there's no way
that the Tennessee Titans think that the best football player
in this draft is a quarterback, cam Ward or any
other one, And I don't either, but I do think

(24:18):
with it. And we're just two years removed from them
thinking Will Levis was their guy, right, and now here
you are and in truth, but the quarterback, you probably
can survive a year with a veteran and then get
back into a deeper class as we go on. But
or maybe you pick somebody, because there's gonna be guys
that have won in college football that are they're going
to be drafted. Hell, there's you know, I mean Todd mcshah.

(24:41):
I talked to him draft guru and I talked to Todd.
He's got Der Sanders falling all the way down to
the Cleveland Brown second first round pick. And I've talked
to people that think that he's, you know, not going
to be picked in the first round. So yeah, the
picket the draft where you're like, okay, And I asked
mcshaye this and looking at and I said, where were
you fit in last year's draft? He goes quarterback four

(25:02):
or five, and which means that that Jackson Darton and
Shador Sanders there's a chance that they're late and weren't
the five quarterbacks or six quarterbacks picked in like the
first twelve picks last year, right, So I mean, we
don't you know, you don't see that very often, but
if it was where you thought you had a decent guy,

(25:23):
I don't think they draft him, but I think the
need the optics and now have they've been so putrid offensively?
And really, when's the last time they took a first
round quarterback? They know, they went and got Malik Willison
ran him out after what a year? They went and
got the Levis non first round. Whin's the last time?
And then Tannehill was there. I can't remember who their
last top notch pick was. So I think optics has

(25:43):
something to do with it. And yes it's obdul Carter,
you know, Travis Hunter. If you're looking to improve your team,
those guys improve it. I do think cam Ward's the
best player in the best quarterback in this draft, and
I do think there's a significance, and I'm not so
sure that you're one of your teams outside the Texans.
The Saints with cars injury, can't move him because it's

(26:06):
like fifty million dollar cap hit right. I'm not so
convinced that Jackson Dart isn't going to be in a
battle for the number two quarterback taken in this draft.
So very weak depth in this quarterback class. And but
cam Ward is the I think now it's become that
he is the guy at the top. The question is
would Tennessee pull a fast one and do something else?

(26:27):
But I think that there's some teams that are going
to say, nah, I can survive. I'm not sold on
the fact that five years from now that any of
these guys are going to be dominant players at the position.
I think cam Ward's got a good chance. I think
Shador Sanders needs to be around really good players as well.
But quarterbacks aren't going to be the norm in this one,

(26:48):
especially in the first round.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
Last time the Titans to quarterback this high twenty fifteen
with the second overall pick.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
Do you remember who it was?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Second overall pick in twenty fifteen? Give me the team
out of the college the University of Oregon? Who was
the quarterback with this University of Oregon twenty fifteen.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
Played for a national championship, lost to one Jameis Winston
in Florida state.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Oh it's Marioda, Marcus Mariota. That's exactly right, that's exactly right. Okay, Well,
there you go, and that they thought it was going
to be big, and in two years they went and
got Tannehill and he took the job over. And Mariota,
who's a solid backup, has been just that a backup
for the most part ever since. Oh I know, and
he could carve out a good career because he gives it. It

(27:39):
just never turned out. And when you watched him in
college man alive was he a dynamic football player? But
offense and who you're coached by. And I think that's
the next level of these three quarterbacks, in particular Gordy,
how important coaching is going to be for them at
the next level. Mechanics wise and stuff to get them going.
We know that they can make plays. But the one

(28:00):
think about both Dart and cam Ward that shadu Or
doesn't have outside of delivering the ball under pressure from
the pocket, he's not gonna make. There's not a lot
of plays he's gonna make that are off schedule. You
get my point, It's gonna be those other two are
little more dynamic talent when it comes to multiple plays
you can make, so I'm curious the further one of

(28:20):
them or whoever falls, how long does that drop continue.
I don't think there's more than two quarterbacks taken in
the first ten picks, and maybe there'll only be one,
but one's going into be Cam Woe for sure.

Speaker 6 (28:30):
That's the crazy part.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
You look back at last year and as Cambleb Williams won,
Jade and Daniels two who took the league by storm,
led the Commanders to a playoff game or playoff games.
Drake May went three, and I think the jury's still
out of him. But the one that's so intriguing, or
the two that were trigating, is Michael Pennix at eight,
who we didn't barely saw it all last year, and
JJ McCarthy at tenth, whot who we didn't see in

(28:53):
all last year, was hurt all year, but is now
the air apparent for.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
The Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
If those guys are in this draft show, I think
I'm still I'd feel more comfortable taking Pennix or McCarthy
won overall over Cam Warreon.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
You would. There's no question the argument comes in in
my opinion after the McCarthy pick with bow Knicks right
at the time. Now, look what bow Nicks has done.
He got with the right coach and Sean Payton because
I think people said, well, is he a first rounder
but a second round er? Solid give him some time.
He's a mature player because he's been in college football

(29:26):
and played a lot of college football. But he got
with the right coach that allows him to do, you know,
think outside the box with bow Knicks because you know,
he had a pocket guy in Breeze and he was
looking for this guy and he got a guy gives
him a little more versatility. And look at the success
Nicks that I'm with you one hundred percent. Cam Ward
falls in my argument is cam Warder bow Knicks, not

(29:47):
cam Warder McCarthy. I think that McKay. I think how
it sits in the Minnesota Vikings would have still taken McCarthy.
And look how they've committed to him. They had a
Pro Bowl quarterback who had a really good year in
Sam other than the last two games in Darnold, and
they just I had McCarthy without even one snap in
an NFL uniform in a regular season game. Have said,
it's your job, have at it. So and going back

(30:07):
to Pennis. Think about this, their backups making thirty million bucks,
right and they have not moved in nobody wants That's it.
There you go. Now, let me ask you this. You
mentioned cam Ward. Would you rather go get Cousins for
one year, drafted Travis Hunter or a Obdual Carter type player,
and then deal with the draft next year? If you

(30:29):
thought that, you know, you still need a draft one,
you'd have Levis still as a third year backup and
you'd have Cousins.

Speaker 6 (30:35):
There.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Are you going to get more out of Cousins? Or
cam Ward is a rookie?

Speaker 10 (30:41):
Man?

Speaker 1 (30:42):
I mean that's and you know you're not going anywhere
because you're not good right now, right right? So what
would you do if you're the GM?

Speaker 6 (30:51):
I mean, I gotta sell tickets that they want to
build that new stadium. Yes, the excitement and the hype
of the number one overall quarterback, it's hope because we
don't know what he what he's going to be. So
that's you're selling hope?

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Is cam Ward? Does cam Ward give them the hope
that a fan base would be buzzing about.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
They're going to talk themselves into it.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
There you go, that's and Tennyson is going to do
everything they can to talk themselves in. I mean to
talk the fan base into knowing that we got a
franchise quarterback. But if you are going to do that, Gordon,
guess what you can't do not play him from the
opening ota as your number one. You have to put
him in there. I don't want to hear, well, you
know we want to give him a chance. No, no, no,
you have. And there's another guy who's college experience three

(31:33):
of them, right, didn't he start out at Incarnett Saint Word, Yeah,
then Washington State and then finishing finished out and you
know in in Miami. So you're getting a to me,
this is a veteran you have. The second he lands
on the private plane, he's your starting quarterback. If he
draft him first. If you're selling me on tickets, you

(31:53):
got to sell me on He's starting from day one.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
When you look at the weapon, I mean they built
up that offensive line. They're brought in Lloyd Cushionberry life
at center, their last couple first round picks, Peter Skorronsky
at love guard, J C. Latham at right tackle. You're
brought in Kevin Zeitler, Dan Moore it's a pretty good
offensive line with ty J. Spears and Tony Pollard in
the backfield, and then out wide you got Calva Ridley,
Treylon Berg's they brought in Van Jefferson.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
They'll probably take a.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Wide receiving course since the AJ Brown.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Yeah, like they'll probably take a receiver in this draft
as well. Like you start to build that up. Okay,
maybe the Titans a worker was something for the Texans sake.

Speaker 6 (32:28):
I hope not. You hope he's a buss. You hope
he stakes for years to come. But I don't know.
I think they are.

Speaker 5 (32:34):
You look at that roster and go quarterback is the
one big missing piece right now.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
And that's why they're not gonna go get that Vet.
They didn't go get Russ Wilson, they didn't go get
Jameis Winston. They're not trading for cousins because the fan
base would automatically go, oh, what are we doing? Even
if you got Travis Hunter, who would be a great
addition and start for both sides of the ball, selling
the quarterbacks a lot easier than not, let's put it
that way.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
More to come here on the Sean south Aisbury Show,
we got plenty more discussed Rockets, Astros, Texans and everything else. Also,
we got to get to a retirement in the sports
broadcasting world, touch on that.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Next Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
Sport yet, Sean, I saw yesterday the news came out
that Leek Horso ESPN Sports Center is going for a
game Day.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
Rather, it's going to retire after week one.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
So they're gonna give him one more swan song of
a of a week with college Game Day. And I
don't believe they've announced just yet where they're going, but
I think all signs point to Texas at Ohio State
arch Manning taking over as the starter. But uh man,
what a what an end to a career. Look, the
last few years have been you know that he hasn't

(33:49):
been as sharp as he was years ago, obviously, Yeah,
but just an icon, an icon when you talk about broadcasters,
and a guy who's been around for ever, and it's
been the face him and Kirk Herbstream the face of
college game Day for so.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Long, and arguably you know some of the voice too.
Now we usually say the voice when they're doing play
by play or something, but as studio shows go, you know,
it's interesting. I was thinking about this of like talent
that quite frankly has changed what a studio show, or
like like when Dan and Dan Patrick are and Stuart

(34:24):
Scott are something, We're doing Sports Center, right, it was
like Dan and Keith Olberman. Now Olberman's a nut job now,
but now think I no wonder I'm a nut job.
I was his intern at kt LA Channel five before
he became Keith Oberman big shot. Right, Well, I people
that have kind of changed. You know, we watch for
the sporting event and the rest of it. But guys, studio,

(34:45):
think about this. Think about Barkley's impact on the TNT show. Right,
we love it, right, yeah, Lee Corso's impact. That's what
College Game Days the greatest pregame show of all time. Yes,
it is the greatest pregame and not NFL today, which
when Brent Musburger and earth Cross were doing it, that
was a big that when it started. The greatest pregame
show of all time is College Game Day now? The

(35:07):
funnest one and the most interactive and just crap talk
of one which is great is TNT's jumped into the fray.
But Barkley is greatly responsible for that. And they've got
a good team, good chemistry. I think that's the key.
And over the years how Herb Street has you know,
become the caretaker at times for Lee and it's like
a father figure and Kirkle and I've talked to him

(35:27):
and he loves him, and that relationship is pretty easy
to see. I'm anxious to see the emotions of even
a guy like Rehees Davis when they say they're goodbyes. Lee.
Corso's you mentioned icon legend. He is college game Day.
And while I don't think they're going to try to
replace anybody with the you know, the head gear and
McAfee's kind of taken over, we still miss that. And

(35:49):
I mean this affection of the goofiness and how into
it Corso was and he disease earned the right to
go out like this.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
I love him not afraid to dress up in costume.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Period one and act and act like a twenty year
old or a ten year old for the most part.
Stuff that, but he pulls it off great, you know,
and I just like he's like and when he whispers
when Herbstreet's got the video camera on in pre college
game day, I've lovely And you think about withstanding the
test of time. You know how long he's been doing it,

(36:18):
and you know, and that just the chemistry and the mix,
and you didn't lose anything. As good as Foulo was,
Rhys Davis's was seamless right. But I think we all
know while it's time and it's time for Lee to
go enjoy and not have to travel all that time.
He is. We tune in and college game day. For me,
I don't set my I love sports, but I don't
set my clock by any certain thing but that I

(36:41):
wake up early on college game, just start getting stuff,
put ice in the chests to get to make sure
and it starts with college I feel like I've missed
something if it's not college game day. Yeah, and Corso
was a big part of it, even as they started
to wean off all the you know, doing it every segment.
And Saban's been a great ad too, obviously well transition.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
I've come full circle on h On Mackafee, I didn't
like him.

Speaker 6 (37:02):
I'm a huge college guy.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
He was out of place in Forest.

Speaker 5 (37:05):
I felt like it was a little bit too much
for trying to cater to the young crowd. But I've
come around on him. I think he's been an awesome addition.
He's invigorated life into.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
No doubt, and you know, and Herbstreet and talked to him,
you say, you wonder how it feels off the you
know a way. They said, it's been phenomenal because of
what you're just saying, that energy or that that and
even if it was you know, you pandered to the
young crowd, Well, it is a young crowd that's at
the college at at the stadium. So Pat's been great
for that and it was a good transition. And when
you bring in the with Saban, it's been it would

(37:34):
have been a much bigger, tougher one for everybody. Even
though Lee has not been is if Saban wasn't there,
a McAfee had been like, what are we gonna do? Right?
So they they've they've kind of it's been nice.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Crowded set with Desmond Hower, I mean exactly, it was
like the Fox crew has gotten ridiculous with adding Gronk
and all these other guys, Like it's like you got
six guys up there, if.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
There's not enough time for anybody saying anything.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
Yeah, they say good bye to David Paula if they
kept him or.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Seven people, and I thought Pollock was outstanding. I do,
so we're gonna miss Lee, but I can't wait to
see it in the emotion on that set, and it'll
be It'll be a great watch.

Speaker 6 (38:12):
So I wonder, though, did they like last year, say, like,
were they like because remember he missed a couple of
weeks last year. I wonder if they're like, this should
be it and maybe they said, let's revisit the off
season and they're probably, look, let's give him a Swanson.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Oh, there's no doubt, there's no qu and a game
like that, And I think to this day and the
irony of it is, hasn't he picked Ohio State more
than any team? And if he gets the Ohio State
Texas game, you can almost feel like he's gonna pick
the He's gonna put the Bucky on top of his
head again. But it's been iconic and he'll never be replaced.

(38:46):
College game. He will still be good. But that seat,
it's like when somebody where Ted Williams has the seat
in Fenway Park and rightfield because he hit a ball
up there. It's like that that that seat. Make sure
wherever you go, there's a little plaque on the right
under the ass up it for Lee Courses. I'll call
it the Lee Corses Gullege game Day. That's exactly one hundred.
There's got to be a segment every week, not name

(39:07):
the headgear. It's a leek course, so like maybe the
super Dog you know how, they have that something because
he has impacted that show in a different way than
Charles Barkley has impacted that but both of them have
been quite frankly brought eyes to the show.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
The Celebrity guest picker segment is only great because of
course no question right, Well so fast, my friend.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Maybe maybe they need to call it the Lee Courso
Celebrity you know something, because the truth is he's earned
it and I'm gonna I'm gonna miss.

Speaker 6 (39:36):
Him that show.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
Also, kirkhb Street too is the if he ever leaves
that show's trouble. And the story just came out last
few days ago that Reecee Davis Fox was coming after
him hard and he reupted with with ESPN. But they
stole Chris FeliCa. I mean, Fox is trying to do
whatever they can to make their product.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Let me tell you something, if you were able to
get Reeese Davis's good I love Rob Stone, but Reese
Davis is so good and I'm my gut tells me
they probably even offered him more money, did Foxy And
Reese said, nah, I'm at the greatest studio. Okay, this
is the best college gig there is and big reason why,
and Reese is phenomenal. But you're exactly right. I think

(40:17):
Herb Street right now is the voice of college football,
even though Fowler calls play by play, I do because
he's on studio shows, he's on Sports Center, he goes
on hits all the time, and he's just a good dude.
You're exactly right. We it would have been fitting if
both would have walked out at the same time. But
Herbstreet's got about twenty five more years to do this,
and Lee Corso deserves to do this on his own.

Speaker 6 (40:37):
Yeah, no doubt. Kirk doesn't age by the way, he
just looks exactly.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Yeah. Next time I have mom will say, what is
the secret, dude? What is there? Maybe maybe and if not,
get an endorse before it and do it. So yeah,
and one of and you know what, hopefully within the
next week or so, we'll get him back on here,
as he's a regular guest and talk to him about
the emotions. No matter what he says on here, it's
like when he lost his dog. The emotion that overwhelms you.

(41:05):
While it may be a different type of emotion, the
eyes will well up, I assure you because of the
relationship with Lee.

Speaker 5 (41:11):
Absolutely are well. Howarder boarders of the books. When we
get started, hour number two will transition. We'll talk a
little bit on the Astros as they are taking on
the Padres tonight. Massive, massive series for the Astros getting
started this weekend.

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Speaker 5 (42:16):
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We'll get into that coming up later this hour. And
the Astros back in action tonight against the MLB leading
San Diego Padres tonight at dyke In Park on seven ninety.

(42:40):
I wish they were I wish they around San Diego.
I've never been out to that ballpark.

Speaker 6 (42:44):
I know it's.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
Oh no, I've heard great things about it, but.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yeah, you are, You're gonna friggin and I know you'll
end up going. You will love it.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
I heard the weather sucks out there.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, the worst in the country. Hey, easiest job in
the world is San Diego weather report. Oh, I'm sure
seventy two. You'll get your marine layer early and by
twelve o'clock if you're at the beach, it'll start to
get sunny and it'll end up at seventy two ysh
for three hundred and twenty five days a year.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
Jeff Jeff Blum when every time he's been in studio
was he always talks about I mean, it's.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
An Orange he's an Orange County guy. Yeah, but it's
not an hour away.

Speaker 6 (43:20):
He just absolutely raves about that way.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
San Diego's he has to do for Bria is this
pop over to Newport Beach, you know, Highway one, and
he's sitting there on Newport Beach, Laguna Beach. Yeah, from
that area down to San Diego, it's a really tough
I mean, there's a lot of things not to like
maybe about Aliforia, but the weather ain't one of them,
especially in Orange County and San Diego.

Speaker 6 (43:41):
Well, it's a big series for the Astros.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
Shot, and just from a standpoint of you'r eight and ten,
things haven't gone great for you so far. You know,
you had an opportunity in that Saint Louis series to
take it. You had an opportunity in the Seattle series
to take it. So it's not all bad. But the
Padres are fifteen and four. Man, they are. They're one
of the best hitting teams in baseball. They're getting pretty

(44:04):
decent pitching. And here's what's stood out to me. Sean one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
They have eight players batting two seventy five or better
in their lineup.

Speaker 6 (44:16):
The Astros have one.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Right, I mean, and two days ago Myers was hovering
there and I got two seventy five. But you know, well,
what's you in the high two sixties, mid two sixties
now or something. But you're exactly right. Look at that lineup.
Then you start to say, okay, I see why Tatisk
got paid and that they are I mean, everybody was
supposed to bend needed the Dodgers, right, and how dare them?

(44:40):
And here are the here of the Padres sitting at
fifteen and four and kicking ass and coming to town.
They are raking right now, and at least on the
initial company, Gordy. The first thing you think about is, okay,
they got guys who are putting the ball in play
and getting on base, which isn't good for the stealing
part of it for the Astros. And then the other side, well,
the Astros pitching has been pretty solid, the hitting hasn't.

(45:04):
So you're gonna have to score a lot of runs in
this series, you would think, with the way they're hitting,
or get three days of lights out pitching, which is
always tough to do. So it is. They're not joking around,
and you're exactly right, and they're not fake. Right now,
this is real and at fifteen and four, this team's
playing as well. They're playing better than anybody in baseball.
But if the ball is anywhere near the plate, there

(45:26):
are hammering it right now.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
And the crazy part is there Dylan Cease isn't even
their best pitcher right now. He's the RAS over six
right now. He is scheduled to go on Sunday Baseball
against the Astros. But it's it's the other guys that
have been pulling their weight. Nick Pivetta, what a good geit.
He has Michael King of two forty two ERA and

(45:47):
Randy Vasquez a one to seventy four ERA.

Speaker 6 (45:50):
Those guys are getting it done.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
When your fourth best guy is supposed to be your
cy young candidate, it's a good thing. We keep talking
about the Dodgers' pitching staff with all the depth of it.
That's pretty good deep. That's four deep right there. That
are pretty damn good.

Speaker 5 (46:03):
Kyle Hart, who is scheduled to go tonight, He's a lefty.
Astros have seen two lefties this season and have not
The delfense does not look good against the lefties. Right
he's an in the area of five point forty, but
he's two to zero. What does that tell you about
the run support he's getting.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
That if you score six, they've scored eight that's a
big pit that's a problem, and they are You're going
to have to, like say, get great pitching and keep
people off the base pass because they're driving people in
and they are getting on. What they're doing right now
is what the Astros have always done in the pass, Cordy,
is they are that stress and anxiety you put a
picture through in the and the fatigue that you get
down to the eighth theater. Like you said, he's sitting

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two seventy eight for the Padres. Opposing pitchers coming here
in the past know what that looks like. And the
and the and the Astros are going to get a
taste of that, and they're going to need great pitching.
But more importantly, they're going to have to average foot
five six runs a game in this series to be
in it. With the way the Padres are swinging the bat.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
I mean, Luisa Riaz is their eighth best hitter right now.
And that that's a guy that's been one of the
best hitters in all of baseball about three eighteen last
year down.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Here, you mean for the two years when he won
the batting title.

Speaker 5 (47:11):
Yeah, I mean, he's just he's one of the best
hitters in baseball, and so it's gonna be a it's
gonna be a tough challenge, man, There's there's no doubt.

Speaker 6 (47:18):
But I brought this up the other day. I mean,
it was around I want to see this around this
time last year when it was maybe it was the
Orioles came to town and it was just felt like
Astros were playing like dog mess.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Didn't they sweep them?

Speaker 5 (47:30):
And they swept them right, So it's like they always
have that in them to like do something you don't expect.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
And the Orioles worthy like they were sitting atop the
American League all this team. So these young studs are
coming to town. They got good pitching Corbin Burns as
part of it, and they put they put it on
him the entire series. They're gonna need that and maybe
even a little more because there's a little more veteran
leadership and they've got the Patterys just aren't winning by
swinging the bat. It's my point, right, you talked about

(47:57):
it right there. They're getting really really good pitching from
their front guys not named Dylan Cees. The biggest challenges
they face this year will be now, and it may
be the biggest challenge they face all year. Thank goodness
that team's playing in a different division.

Speaker 6 (48:09):
Yeah, no doubt. And it's crazy to look.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
I mean, they started the season seven to oh before
they lost a game, and then you look at what
They just came off a six game win streak, lost
two to one in extra innings to the Cubs, and
then they bounced back for a four to two wins
so they won that series. But I mean that's like
the last two weeks, the only game they've lost was
an extra.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Yeah, nobody was giving them much love because two hours
up the road, we were talking about the Dodgers, what
eight or nine and oh or ten or whatever they started,
and the pottery's just stept, you know, beating people down.
And now they're sitting to the top of the division
with the best record in the league and playing like
it they like I said, this isn't false and where
they're just lucking their way into it. They're getting good

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pitching obviously, lights out hitting right now, and they've got
they've got MVP candidates. That's exactly right.

Speaker 6 (48:57):
Rodgers are in second place, a game and a half behind.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Those exactly right. Arizona's good in that division. I mean
at least going in people San Francisca. They've elevated their game.
So you are one correct, that is by far, at
least right now, the toughest division of base or poor Rockies.

Speaker 6 (49:12):
I feel bad. It's just it's never going to turn
around for them.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Well, the Rockies are gonna have to pick their facility
up and move it to a little less hit or friendly.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Right.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah there, it's like there's no doubt. It's awesome. But yeah,
you got to you got to schedule a trip. Well,
first off, your your you know your wife will love
you guys going together, You'll love just everything about We
got to get to pet come.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
Oh San Diego. Yeah, I was like Colorado. We were
at a couple of years ago and they had this.
Peter Burns recommended me because we were like where should
we go? Because he lived in Colorado for years. He's like,
there's a place down the street from the ballpark. It's
like an arcade with beer. You going, It's just like
all these arcade games and beer.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
It's an adult arcade with drinking.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Yeah, and then you walk over to the ballpark, perfect weather,
balls just flying out of the ballpark.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Oh, I needed like even I remember when the ballpark
was built and it first opened and I went the
first season it opened. Was that because I actually my
ex wife lived at Cherry Hills, Colorado, so we you know,
you'd go and then the corridors were wide and you
could send those like every everything about it and the
way this said, He's like, this is a great ballpark,
and that and that, and then you're talking then with the

(50:17):
Larry Walkers and Helton's and Big Cat Galago they were
also winning, right right, and you know then Clint Hurdle
gets there. But it's a great place. And I love
our adult arcade games. I do adult that that didn't
sound that kind of sounds sexual. I love arcade games,
adult arcade gas, right, I do love it. And then

(50:40):
you could go over get a stake the next night
at this Denver chophouse, which is off the charts. But
going back to San Diego talking about here, I actually
am a little surprised you haven't been with your you know,
love of ballparks and and playoffs and travel and the
rest of it. But that's that's a trip.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
I think there was a few years ago where we
thought it was looking like it was gonna be Astros
a World Series against the.

Speaker 6 (51:02):
Podcasts, right, and they fell off that. I was like, ah,
there was my chance.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah, to get out to San Diego. Put it this way,
it's not only worth going to baseball, but that's one
of those I'm going to take a four day weekend.
That's the place to do it. Yeah, yeah, you love it.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
The Astros, by the way, number twenty one in the
ESPN MLB Power rankings this week. Yeah, that's down from
they were thirteen a week prior. And here's what the
write up, Buster only said. He said, Jim Crane's instinct
will be to hold this team together and push to
make the playoffs for the ninth season a row and
for the tenth time in the last eleven years. But
Kyle Tucker and Alex Bregman gone, the challenges are greater,

(51:35):
Jordan is off to slow start, and the Aos is
more competitive than it was a season ago. If the
Asters do drift from contention, there will be teams calling
on Robert Valdez and others. So I don't even want
to go down that path early, but I agree it
is something to consider. If this thing does go south,
I think they're going to turn it around. I think

(51:56):
they're going to be competitive.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Well, I can't imagine it the All Star break that
they're not hovering around them and the Texas Rangers in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Hell.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Even if the Angels can hang around, I don't know
how they can sustain it for their full season. But
they improve their pitching this offseason, so I would imagine
even though it's not the best division, it'll be a
competitive division.

Speaker 6 (52:16):
Yeah, I'm just tell to say we're not selling agreed.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Put it this way. With ten games to go in
the season, nobody will have the division sewn up. Yeah,
five games to go, they may not have it sewn up,
so they will be hanging around. The question is at
the alls at the trade deadline, do you think you're
a World Series team? They thought they could do that
last year and they didn't move Bregman, right, will they
do the same with from or if they're having And
what kind of season he's happened, because either way, if

(52:41):
he plays great, you may price yourself out. If he
plays awful, you're not going to get the Hall you
want for him. Yet he's a premium left hander. And
and John Smoltz I said, what do you think he goes?
I love him. Yesterday, Schmolt said, I love him.

Speaker 6 (52:56):
And then I said about it her.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
He goes, well, I love him too. I said, give
you one game, and he had no problems starting Hunter around,
which I would too. Yeah, i'd go. But he said, it's,
you know, talking about a good problem to have. He goes,
that's a nice problem to have at the top of
the order. But he loved him both. He just thinks
that Fromber's mental and emotional, which we said, if you'll
if he can stay out of his own way, the
rest is history because he said he's got great stuff,

(53:19):
which we all know.

Speaker 5 (53:21):
When we return here Sean, the Texas Rangers are in
first place. Did you hear about their venomous bite on?
One of their star players will talk about that coming
up next.

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Speaker 2 (54:47):
Now back to Sean Salisbury. All right, Sean, what are
you hearing out there now? The Seals Verife takeout sells
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Speaker 9 (55:01):
Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
All Right, Sean, a little bit of a Salisbury steak
out here. I want to get your thoughts on one.
Patrick Corbin, Texas Rangers lefty got his first win of
the season on Wednesday night, but it was a start
he nearly wasn't able to make because of a venomous bite.

(55:37):
Patrick Corbin believe the culprit was venom from an apparent
bite on his foot two days ago before his start
that made it difficult to walk. Corbett said swelling it
developed around a visible bite mark on his foot. Wednesday morning,
he had right, yeah, he said it was tolerable after
having his ankle wrapped. He said it was really bad
in the morning, just a really swollen foot. Isn't sure

(56:00):
if I was gonna throw that morning. My wife was
really concerned. I came into early ones that had get
some treatment going and went from there. I mean, it's
gonna be the first time I've ever heard of this,
a bite on the foot of a pitcher that's venomous.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Yeah, before a start, And it also sounds like you're
out of a like there were some sci fi movie
that there's this or al rack noophobia, right, you know,
jumping around and Jeff Daniels is going to come to
the ballpark and try to get him fixed before he
gets a start. Do they know if it's a spider,
it can't be a snake or you would have heard it, right, Yeah,
you would think it's got to be some kind of spider.

(56:35):
If it was Arizona, I'd be saying, well, you got
bit by a scorpion, right, So here's the key with that.
It starts to go. If you wake up in the
morning and your foot like you got it looks like
you got elephant titus or cankles, I suggest you get
to the doctor quickly because venomous is one thing, but
how venomous is another. Right you start throwing up or
what have you. I don't know, but I've been stung

(56:56):
by a bee, which isn't fun, and I've been my
dad got stung by b but he was allergic to
it and you could see it was dangerous. Face puffs
up and it was like, oh my gosh. But you
didn't know you're allergic to it until you get stung,
and then you finally get something that helps you out.
So I'm glad he's Okay, I mean, we can joke
about it now, but I wonder they probably don't know
what it is. But can you imagine waking up and

(57:18):
then now what happens, Gordy every time you go to bed,
You're thinking, this is little frigging spider.

Speaker 6 (57:22):
Down at the bottom of my feet.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
YEA true. You know how you go when they when
they put the cover over the house because they've got
to they've got to what's the word I'm looking for
when they gate, Yeah, fumigate the whole thing. And you say, hey,
go out of town for two weeks. I'll tell you
a quick story about that. Go out of town for
two weeks and come on back. But that first time,
you feel like, you know, when a piece of your

(57:44):
like bedspread hits you or the sheet hits you wrong,
you think, is there a spider now you if you're him,
you're like, oh, hell no, bed's out. We're moving out
of the place. A buddy of mine in Arizona. Now,
just so you know, up in that Paradise valley in
the hills, during the warm weather, the snakes come out
in the sunset and there's a lot of them. When

(58:05):
you do mean Randy Johnson and I were playing golf
one day and Randy is not a big snake guy.
First of all, is golf club's taller than I am.
So we're driving in a rattler comes right in front
of us and stops in the cart path, and fortunately
his golf club is long enough for seven feet to reach,
so moved onter We were gonna sit there because he
wasn't moving the golf cart. Well up in a buddy,

(58:27):
another buddy of mine, there's a guy who has a
second home. Like he went away for Colorado in the summer.
They came back after three months in Scottsdale. He opened
his garage and there was a couple hundred snakes. Now
you know what happens is they get in there and
they you know, they multiplied because they had and he
opened it up on the car inside the garage. So

(58:51):
my first thought is, you know, some's gonna come up
and give me an enema when you're sitting on the
toilet or anywhere. And so I said, what do you do?
They they yes, that's exactly right, that's exactly what he did.
That's what he did. But they came home and it
wasn't like three or four he came home because you
think about it, summertime, get in there, and once they

(59:13):
know somebody's in there, these to get in. They came on.
There's a couple hundred sent in his garage right there.
I'm thinking, if they're in here, you know the houses
that they've gone through, the vents or whatever you and
I'm with him, I say, you better cover that up
and fumigate it and then guess what, and you have
to report it realtor wise right, you have to tell
them when it's a situation like that. And even in Arizona,

(59:33):
I'm never going back in. And I'm not overly afraid
of snakes. Now, I don't want to get bit by
one because I grew up and you know in Arizona
part of my life before we were in California the
rest of it. But that there's no way. So I'm
thinking bit by a spider. I'm always checking under my
sheets before I get in if it was a spider.
Now in Arizona, you walk in and there's there are
a couple hundred snakes sit in my garage. You can

(59:54):
keep the car too.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
Yeah, forget, I think I'm going to burn the house. Right,
Get some guys We're gonna pour it all over this thing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Put them the circle round and let the fire department
come in and slow burn it. We're gonna burn it
down and never do it any because I'm telling you
right now that house gets sold.

Speaker 6 (01:00:10):
Do you want anything from the house. No, I don't
want anything.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Well, you got one hundred and fifty thousand dollars vehicle
in the garage. They can keep it. Burn that too,
That's right. So I put it this way Patrick Corbyn's house. Yeah,
he's gonna be on He's gonna his head's gonna be
on a swivel. Every time.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
Corbin told reporters they said something bit me. But I
still don't know what it was. I've never had anything
like that before. It was super weird. Hours before, Corbin
allowed just one run in five and the third innings
in a three to one game. Bruce Bochi said it
was fifty to fifty whether he was even gonna be
able to pitch because it could of the condition of
his ankle. He said the swelling had developed around a

(01:00:48):
visible bite mark on his foot Wednesday morning, but it
was tolerable after having it wrapped. It was really bad
in the morning, said he felt soreness in the ankle Thursday,
but it was confident he wouldn't need to miss any time.
He said, was just fortunate to get through it yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
So I guess, yeah, man, though your whole paradigm shift
after that. Yeah, and I guess that's a new one
and not sore arm not. You know, there's nothing wrong
with your rotator, there's nothing wrong with your elbow. You're
not discomfort the discovery. You got bit by something in
bed and you got elephant titus of the ankle and cankled.

(01:01:23):
You beg get your ass in and the foot and
then to go out and pitch. Yeah, now, so good
on him that he's okay.

Speaker 6 (01:01:29):
My grandma used to have a she had like a
wasp nest on her porch. Oh yeah, and there's every
summer they'd come back. You'd like knock it down, but
every summer her coming the same damn spot. And she
had a few that would get into the house every
now and then. And I remember sleeping at her house
one night, went to put my hand under the pillow
to go to sleep, and felt like a razor blade

(01:01:51):
in my hand. I'm like, what the hell is that?
Look up and it was a wasp under under the pillow.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
How that's how that night sleep? You don't sleep that.

Speaker 6 (01:02:03):
Again.

Speaker 5 (01:02:03):
It's like every time you go to put your hand
under your pillow. Now you're like, oh, you think twice
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
That you picked the pillow up and look first. And
I got my littlest dog, the one patron if there's
a fly or like a mosquito gets in. I'm telling
you that's how I know. She's her head's on a swivel.
She will go and stand by the door to go
outside or go in another the buzz, you know, like
they hear. Dogs can hear. Matter of fact, those dogs,

(01:02:28):
like when you get some door dash or something delivered
from the grocery store, they can hear the car. Before that,
somebody comes up like how did you they're barking. I'm like,
how'd you hear that?

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Ye?

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
But that little buzz of the fly. My dog yesterday
spent three hours head up in there trying to find
the one fly that was driving a crazy. So I
got to walk around my house for three hours with
a hat trying to beat down a fly. And I
don't need it to be a wasp for anything else,
but it does change your perspective when you get in
the sheets.

Speaker 6 (01:02:53):
That's for damn sure. Not to self. Do not get
bitten by anything venomous at night.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
I will be rue for life, especially if it's your
significant other. Don't let her be venomous.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:03:03):
All of that's right, that's all. That's a whole other discussion.
All right, we're return here on the shown Salisbury Show.
I want to just hear to talk a little in
college football because it sounds like there's a domino effect
about to happen here on the Niko iamali Aba fallout.

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
We'll discuss that coming.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
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properly without us having to put hyphens in between every vowel.
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Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Out there does Sean Salisbury show continues Colin Cowhard of
all people reporting that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Now, Cowhard's not really in the breaking news business, but
he lives in La So I'll give him the benefit
of the doubt on this one.

Speaker 6 (01:05:13):
So we'll see what happens there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
But I talked to a guy who knows the dad
pretty well, okay, and he said, he said even a week,
he said, we'll be shocked if he's not UCLA. And
so I think it would take a for Deshaun Foster
and the group at UCLA take I don't want to
say miracle, that's not the word to use, but it
would take something. And it's gonna be less money than
he was making a Tennessee. Yeah, it's gonna it's good.
It would take a lot for him because family's there

(01:05:36):
and the comfort of it, and you know, but the
guy behind him, Now, the guy's already there, I think
is a million dollar.

Speaker 6 (01:05:41):
An IL guy as well. Froma is exactly right, So
what is he going to do?

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Because if you're you're automatically gonna even if they say
they're going to compete, you know who's going to have
the inside track, right, So if Nico gets the inside track,
now there's a million dollar at IL guy that got there,
Now say I feel betrayed. I'm leaving too. So the
collateral damage will be maybe favorable because you get an Ico,
but also it will it will ripple through the guy
who thought he was going to be the starter too.

Speaker 6 (01:06:07):
Maybe he could call Josh Hipel and go to Tennessee
or something.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Because that for a well maybe we're a year away
from instead of them being able to transfer, you can
just trade for the game. That's exactly right.

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
Joey Aguilar is the kids there. But we had another
Domino fault. Yesterday. Notre Dame quarterback Steve Angelly entered the
transfer portal as a grad transfer. He was Riley Leonard's
backup last year and was competing with CJ. Carr for
the starting job there with the fighting Irish well coming
out in the spring. It sounds like CJ. Carr that job,

(01:06:39):
and so there have been some some talks that Angelly
could very well go to Tennessee and go compete for
that starting job.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
And Notre Dame, which this is going to be the
first time in a minute, right that Notre Dame has played,
you know, in the last couple two or three years
with Sam Hartman. Remember I mean he was there for
what two year at least one one year I think,
and then now with what they did with Rightlan Lionard,
they have been the old John Calipari won and done philosophy.

(01:07:07):
Let's go get that guy, and it served him well
because they've they won with Hartman, but they you know,
obviously played in the national title game with Ryland Lionard,
and in truth, neither one of those guys were that
freshman five star recruit, good players. But here they are,
and you're going to see more of that coaches putting there.
If they're going to put their butt on the line,
it's not going to be for a freshman. It's going

(01:07:28):
to be for a veteran who's played in a bunch
of big games and a lot of football. You saw
Oregon do it with bo Nicks. You saw, even though
they got a couple of years of them. You saw
where cam Ward went to get his. So it's changed
the course of recruiting. And you know, go to you
Covern college football in the SEC. You get it because
we're we have eleven thousand plus kids in the transfer
portal right now. Eleven thousand plus. That's not a good thing, right,

(01:07:50):
It's just not a good thing, even though you want
the kids to get paid the right way. But yeah,
I mean, there's a veteran who's played at Notre Dame,
even though he hasn't played a lot, and maybe he
goes and think about the revitalization of his career. They're
gonna play ninety snaps a game if he goes to
a place like Tennessee and Hypel finds a guy, because
right now Tennessee is scramblin to find out who their
start is going to be. Is it in the building

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or outside the building. I would imagine if you're a
transfer quarterback or a portal guy, you would really be
interested in Tennessee's offense, right yeah, because you know you're
gonna put up numbers and you're gonna have a lot
of plays because Hypel plays as fast as anybody in
the country.

Speaker 5 (01:08:24):
And that's what I thought was disingenuous, the iam alia
of a family and whatever reps putting out there that
the last twenty four to forty eight hours that it
was the offense that was the problem that Nico had,
that that he didn't feel comfortable in that offense, and
that they made certain demands this offseason to Joshipel and
Tennessee that you guys better show up this offensive line

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if Nico's gonna play his best and and w's by
the way they did they added too old linemen in
the portal and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
I like when a parent tells me you better Yeah,
as the coach, right.

Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
It's just it's one of those things where it's like
everyone else was the problem except me. At a certain point,
it's like, maybe you were the problem. Least I checked.
Tennessee just said Dylan Sampson lead the SEC in rushing
last year. The run game seemed to be pretty damn good.
If there was any problem on that offense, it was the.

Speaker 6 (01:09:12):
Quarterback, right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
And you know what's crazy about that is what tells
me if you can run the football, the offensive line
moved the pole pretty well too, right. You know you
got to be able to move it a little bit
and have a good back that gets it. That we
called John Robbinson, my coach, USC called those guys. He
always said, don't be an eye. Confess he did it.

Speaker 10 (01:09:29):
Guy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
You know where I confess, it's always somebody else's fault. Well,
I got news for Nico. At UCLA, They're not going
to be more high powered than you were in Tennessee.
So understand where you're going. Do you may feel more
comfortable but high power? Yeah, I would imagine in truth, Gordy,
deep down, I'll be honest with you, I'm not sure

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that Tennessee not only regrets it, but when you did it,
they were so quick to just say get to Steppin'.
Maybe just maybe the headache became bigger than the talent.
With all this, not just the money, but the demands,
as you're talking about in the off season with your connections,
I now they're going to need a quarterback. But I
would imagine Hypel, who's pretty good at it. We'll find

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somebody to run that off.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
We look at his track record of quarterbacks. Drew Locke
still hanging around the NFL. Mackenzie Milton, Now he had
the catastrophic.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
In jur Yeah, but played his ass off.

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
Considering Dylan Gabriel, Hendon Hooker, and Joe Milton, who, by
the way, he's in the NFL as well.

Speaker 6 (01:10:27):
Hendon Hooker's in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
Like, all five of those guys produced averaged at least
two hundred and fifty yards a game touchdown totals in
the thirties. Nico averaged two hundred yards a game and
twenty two touchdowns. I think he was on a path.
I think he was developing. But you look at the
track record of Hypel and the quarterbacks he's worked with. Dude,
you are the outlier. You're the one who you know,

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didn't produce like the other guys. Right again, he's he
was a richer year, a trophy guy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Right yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:10:58):
But I just again like to blame Hypel and the system. No,
they're fine.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
You were the problem, right, I'm I'm team Hypel and
Tennessee in this one. I think you had to do it. Now,
I'm rooting for hell Why why wouldn't you root for
an Eco to go and have success and do it?
But the truth is we need more of what Tennessee
did that you don't get to dictate where you go
based on money, especially when it's more potential than it
is production. I'm okay incentive item, I'm okay with it

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one hundred percent. But we got to start signing contracts
with these players and treating them like NFL players with
all the good and the bad and the tough part
that called being a grown adult comes with it. And
it's coming because it said, you know who the last
person of the party on this is the n C
two A. Yeah, and they have the biggest seat at
the table because they're the ones that control it right now.

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But I'm going to tell you what's going to happen.
They keep keep on messing around, They're not going to
have a seat at the table themselves when it comes
to making decisions in college football. And this is a
huge one.

Speaker 6 (01:11:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
I want to stick with this when we come back
because I want to pose the question to you is,
because it was posed yesterday to me, is NIL ruining
college football?

Speaker 6 (01:12:04):
I want to get to that.

Speaker 5 (01:12:05):
And also Stuart Mandel with a story he is pissing
off Bill Belichick.

Speaker 6 (01:12:11):
Don't do that. That never ends. Well, will you get
an we'll talk about that next there on the Sewan
Salisbury Show.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (01:12:22):
Has an article of Shawn titled Bill Belichick hasn't changed
my mind if he's the right hire for North Carolina yet.
He basically says, I was skeptical about the hire when
they made it. Seventy two year old coach was zero
college experience, and my mind hasn't changed since. He says
information has been sparse. Belichick has spoken with reporters just

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once since December when they started Sprit Camp. Players and
assistance have not been made available for any interviews at all.
They don't really post much stuff on social media, and
when they do the clips they have, they removed players'
numbers from Jersey, so you don't even know who's who.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Well, let me tell you, let me tell Stuart. Just
give him a little insight. Guess what Bill did in
New England. They didn't give you a whole lot of insight.
They're not going to tell you about injuries. You're not
going to see Jersey names. Nobody's going to be able
to talk to you other than the head coach. He's
going to make sure that he's the face and the voice,
not because of narcissism, but because he doesn't want anything

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getting out. He didn't, they shouldn't get out. He's not
going to give you more access, He's going to give
you less. And the more successful they are, and I
love Bill, but the more successful they are, the less
you're going to get. So I'm not real sure this
is a pro team. This is they're going to coach
it like it's an NFL team, And with nil and
the way that we're doing this in college football, it
may very well be a pro league now. But listen,

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what did you expect? Now? I get why people going
in wonder well as Bill you know past the time,
does he really want to go coach coll and recruit people?
Does he want to go through all that. Well, obviously
he does because he loves football. They will be better players. Now,
you got to be a little lucky. You got to
have some sss, You got to get good recruits. But
just the Belichick factor. Quite frankly, you get to a point, well,

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you probably don't have to recruit like other guys in
quite frankly, it's nil. Now recruiting is kind of the best.
Recruiters now have to have also a deep pocket because
it's no longer working in your favorite just to be
a great recruiter. So when Belichick, what did you expect?
And if they go ten and two the first year,
you think the next year he's given you more access.
Even though he's been in the media now between jobs,

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it's not going to happen. That's who he is. I
told you, Gordy offer real quick. I'm in a Pro
Bowl with the ESPN. We're doing you know, all the
pre stuff, the AFC and NFC championship game. It ended,
so we that was when we had a the Pro
Bowl with the was before the Super Bowl. Member we
start right in. So we flew to Honolulu and Mark
and I said, we got Hawaiian shirt and like, oh

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my gosh, I get the nine days of this right.
And Charlie Weis, oh yeah, the head coach hadn't come.
Charlie Weis, who was the assistant in New England at
the time. Charlie said, and I said, Charlie, come on,
I want to sit down and talk to us. We're
doing it like a radio stuff or we're going to
do an interview. I take it back, Mark and I
we're going to do an interview and put it on
tape for Charlie just as a Pro Bowl coms. He goes, Sean,

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he's stand out. He walks in, go Sean, you know
I can't do this. I said, Charlie, it's the Pro Bowl.
He said, Sean, you know Bill. I said, yeah, I know, Bill,
but even the Pro Bowl. And he said, yeah, Sean,
even the Pro Bowl. And we laughed and he kept
walking and we never got to interview it. And so
that's how they do it there. It's sparse and it
isn't gonna and hell, he may even want more control

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because it's a college program where it's guys who haven't
done it much. And he's got, you know, his staff,
and the guy he hired is his GM, and Mike
in Michae Lombardy is Bill times two.

Speaker 6 (01:15:41):
So do you think you're getting? That's what Mandel writes.

Speaker 5 (01:15:44):
He says GM Micha Lombardy set the tone a few
weeks ago when he said when he told reporters everything
we do here is predicated on building a pro team.

Speaker 6 (01:15:51):
We consider ourselves the thirty third NFL team.

Speaker 5 (01:15:55):
Then they're social media accounts, they've posted nothing, but you know,
special team scoredator Mike prefer.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
His Mike Priefer. His dad was my spresher team's coach
in Minnesota, Chuck.

Speaker 5 (01:16:05):
They posted about his twenty one years of NFL experience
and also visits from two time Super Bowl champion Rob Ninkovich.
I mean, it's like all NFL, NFL, NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Not not Minnesota. He was my dady Mianair. Chuck Priefer
is our special teams coach in San Diego when I
played there.

Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
They also went on to say this is Brian Murphy
who covers the team. Posted left North Carolina's quote practice
like a pro end to springball, wondering who's that for?
Great opportunity to make splosh with the fans, get them
excited to support the program, have Belichick say a few words,
signed some autographs, got.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
None of that. Well, if you're looking for a North Carolina,
now here's the difference. It is one hundred and eighty
degrees different than the guy. They just had Mac and one,
and Mac did it well. Mac knows how to do it.
He's great, And I think Max stint in the media
before he went back to coaching was great. Max's always
been like that. He's a very affable guy and people

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like him, and he even though there was an age gap,
Matt mac is just a good he He loves it
and he's and I think being in the media invited
it more. He said, Okay, now we all get it,
and when you've seen both sides, you get it a
little more. Well with Bill, he may get it a
little more. He still doesn't want you knowing his program
better than he does, or knowing anything about it. And
it's not gonna I'm just telling you it's not gonna change.

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Maybe you'll get a special day of the week. But
if you're looking for a shake hands, kiss babies coach you,
you're looking at the wrong program, the wrong guy. And Mike,
Mike Lombardi is not kidding. He is not when they
talk about a pro a pro program, He's not just
saying that because Ni l or his who Bill is,
that's what they are going They're gonna make you. They're

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gonna treat it as if this is a full time job.

Speaker 6 (01:17:45):
This is gonna go one of two ways. Either it's
gonna be awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
They're gonna be a success, They're gonna make the playoff,
they're gonna win lots of games, or it's gonna be
a disaster and it'll be over in two years and
he'll be gone.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Or and in two years Bill will be working with
Peyton Manning on Omaha products. Stuff back and drawn up right.
But or they're going to go ten and two are
there and all of a sudden two years are gonna say, wow,
North Carolina's been Nashally, they're in the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (01:18:11):
This is all right between the NFL basically quitting on him.
No team wanted him, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:18:17):
I mean I was a little shocked at that that
that no team wanted to sniff around on him as
a head coach again.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
But my whole thing is, why wouldn't you. I understand
the full control thing that he wants when he does it,
but at some point in time, the full control thing,
he managed it pretty well over the course of his
career with a lot of with a lot of rings
on it. I'm with you. I still don't think. Well,
maybe at his age and if if he's successful at

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North Carolina, but I'm not sure his last NFL offers
done yet, Gordy, whether he takes it or not, I'm
not sure that's done yet.

Speaker 5 (01:18:52):
Got five years, fifty million to coach at North Carolina.
So we'll see how long this last been. Somebody brought
this up to me, Sean. You look at their schedule.
They open with TCU.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Where's that game at?

Speaker 6 (01:19:03):
It says it doesn't say neutral locations? Let me, are
they the second name in it? It just says versus
OKAYCU versus North Carolina. Yeah, it says Keenan Stadium. So
it'll be at UNC. So it's a home game for them.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
So let's say one to know, and they got Geo Lopez,
who's a transfer.

Speaker 5 (01:19:18):
With some experience. They just got him from South Alabama.
Then week two they were at Charlotte. There's two and oh,
they're home for Richmond the Spiders. Three and oh they're
at UCF. Tough, tough, right, that's a that's it depends.
That's on the road.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
You said, Okay, let's even say three and one, just
for the hell.

Speaker 6 (01:19:34):
Okay, Week five they are home for Clemson.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
I advantage Clemson because Clubnick's pretty good. So three and two.

Speaker 6 (01:19:42):
Then they are at Cal It's not very good.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
That's they'll play some defense with Wilcox. But give me
gim me four and two home for Virginia. Five and
two at Syracuse, Frian Brown. They're on the rise, Okay.
I would still say North Carolina give me Syracuse for
the hell of it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:01):
Okay, you five and three, Okay, home for Stanford, six
and three, at wake Forest seven and three, home for
Duke more than likely eight and three and at NC State,
depending rival game.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
So even if they went nine and four, you consider
that a success this first year.

Speaker 5 (01:20:19):
Right, Yeah, they're not making the playoff, but that's I mean,
you're you're probably going a really good bowl game, and it's.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
An improvement and you're still talking about him in November. Yeah,
and you know they're still relevant as far as that
season goes. Yeah, and that may be. I don't see
how you're any worse.

Speaker 6 (01:20:32):
Than nine and four, But ten and two is possibility there,
and you're your playoff game.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
Now why I have thirteen games? Did I say nine
of die missic we give? Okay? So even if you're
eight and four, nine and three, yeah, right, twelve, But
you get to ten and two, now you're you're you're
in the hunt, right and.

Speaker 6 (01:20:47):
If you're on the bubble benefit of the doubt, I
don't give a damn that your schedule suck. They're gonna
put him in because the.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
Belichick there is no Well, it's the saving factor just
at North Carolina.

Speaker 5 (01:20:57):
Yeah, agreed, so agreed. We'll see if it works out.
But certainly again one of those things.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
I mean, if you're going to take a flyer, taking
it on Bill Belichick ain't a bad thing, right you try?

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
Is that a bad thing?

Speaker 6 (01:21:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:21:09):
Well, we will be taking a flyer on our Houston
Rockets as they're getting back into the playoffs for the
first time in five years. They will be playing the
Golden State Orders starting this Sunday night. We're gonna get
into it a little bit. It's been a while since
the Rockets have been in the playoffs. But we'll tell
you what some of the coaches and players had to
say yesterday. That's coming up next on The Shawn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
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Speaker 4 (01:21:39):
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Speaker 9 (01:21:52):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
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Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
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Speaker 4 (01:22:01):
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Gordian for Dan Matthews on this Friday. It is a
loaded weekend, man. We have a sounds like good weather.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
Eight sports weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:22:17):
I think we have some rain in the area on Sunday,
but should be a nice weekend as we get things
started tonight with the Houston Astros taking on the Padres
coming to town Padres and then Blue Jay is gonna
be a tough six game homestand here for the Astros
and Ryan Gusto will be on the Mounta tonight. By
the way, I'll be out there tomorrow. They're doing I'm

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a I'm a bobblehead collector, Sean how many?

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
How many yes? Are you really over?

Speaker 6 (01:22:44):
One hundred?

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Wow? But just Houston stuff or anywhere, just mostly Houston stuff.
But it's still boxed up and like collect them out. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:22:54):
So but tomorrow they are doing the Josh Hater flames
byblehead where it's all the flames around him.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
Oh nice.

Speaker 6 (01:23:02):
Yeah, So I'm gonna go grab that one.

Speaker 5 (01:23:04):
But they do that, you gotta you gotta watch the
fine break because on some Bibblehead giveaways, like the L
two v one they had a few weeks ago, it
says all fans so they go all fans, well, no
matter what time I get to the game, I'll get one.
And then they got the ones like tomorrow, it says
first ten thousand fans, right, So it's like you gotta
get there a little bitter early, make sure you get it. So, uh,

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there's nothing worse than you you get one. You go
to a game and you're excited about the giveaway and
the person in front of you gets one, and you
see it's the last one in their hand and there's
nothing else.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
It was number ten thousand, buddy, that is the worst.
So what is your favorite bibblehead? Do you have one
you like? Okay, that you liked if you had to.
Let's say you're on you you you are Bonnie and Clyde,
you and yeah, you guys robbed the bank and you
had and you and you had to take one bobblehead?
Is there one that you would you couldn't leave behind?

Speaker 6 (01:23:54):
No, I mean I'm not that I'm not that attached
to them, but I will see a hundred of them.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
Yeah, I attached to him.

Speaker 6 (01:24:00):
I like the one with.

Speaker 5 (01:24:03):
Well, all the world's the twenty seventeen World Series Champion
ones are cool, but the rockets ones. There was one
that they did on Alpi Shingoon when he first got drafted,
where you click a button and it was that video
you recorded when he first got drafted, said Hughiston. I
am so happy because he barely spoke English. Yeah, and
it's it's a talking bibblehead. You pressed the button and
it's I didn't know bibbleheads talked. Yeah, well this one does.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
Right there you go, Yeah, most of them don't, right.

Speaker 6 (01:24:28):
I pressed the button and he says, I'm so happy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
I love it. So is this where do you keep them?

Speaker 6 (01:24:34):
They're they're on my set behind me?

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Are they? Okay? So you got that? That's the fully.
It's like having you know, people that collect gnomes or
you know, what's the guy that elf on the shelf stuff?
You got them, all your bibbleheads behind.

Speaker 6 (01:24:44):
You got that above the bourbon collection.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
You know, see that's mine. I got the Bourbon collection.

Speaker 6 (01:24:50):
You know which one do you like? More of the
bobblehead collection of the Bourbon collection?

Speaker 5 (01:24:53):
Boon and grab another bobblehead let's go absolutely, But no,
I think that the one I really like.

Speaker 6 (01:24:58):
It's the Remember when Jordan and Bregman hit back to
back home runs. They did.

Speaker 5 (01:25:02):
They did the pos back to back. They made two
bobbleheads of that of the back and you put them
together and they got their arms folded. Oh that's sweet,
that's cool. It lose the little value now that Bregman's
not a an aster of. My wife tells me last night,
she goes the Bregman's had their baby. I go, I
don't give a damn you. I don't care that baby's
not a Houstonian.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Hey to tell him to que the duck boats in Boston.
He doesn't play here anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:25:25):
And look, they'll probably when they were, when he retires
down the route, they'll probably end up back in Houston, right,
and we'll love him and we'll retire his jersey and
all that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
But for now he's probably he's the enemy. Now, Houstonian,
get out of here, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:25:37):
Speaking of Houstonians and speaking of Alpe, Shin Good and
the Rockets are back in the NBA playoffs, So the
first time since twenty twenty, first time we will have
a home game, home playoff game in Houston since twenty nineteen.

Speaker 6 (01:25:51):
I'm just excited, Shy.

Speaker 5 (01:25:52):
I remember going to playoff games and that excitement of
you walk into the arena early and you see all
the shirts spread on all the chairs, the arena board
is going, the lights are flashing. It's just that excitement
of NBA playoffs back in Houston. It's just it's fun
because there's there's some young fans, like if you're in
your early twenties, you don't may not even remember playoff

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basketball here in Houston.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
It's been that long, right And you know what's interesting
too about it, Gordy, is they didn't back their way
into this. You know what I'm saying where they're one,
they are the two seed. I mean when we really
come on now, two years ago they had less than
twenty five wins. Right last year they played five hundred
basketball and now you know you're talking about in the

(01:26:36):
fifties with the two seed. I mean that is those
are quantum leaps. There wasn't a whole lot of baby
steps since Udoka's been here. Im Udoka has done a
phenomenal job of getting buy in like Kelvin Samson has,
like good coaches do, and we've got some good ones
in this city. I mean they bought into Joe as
Spot obviously because he'd been around a while. But for

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it's it's it's important. I think they're gonna buy into
Will Fritz are the University of Houston football team. So
it's nice that we have those guys in there, because
at times it's hard to do, especially in a superstar
field league, that the coach's secondary. A lot of times
in the NBA it just is. But Udoka has put
his stamp. He is the face and the voice of
this organization. But he's they're growing it, and I'm with you.

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There's just a different buzz and you're right. You walk in,
it's like okay because you even know that some people
would be saying, ah, they had to play in a
play in game and they're how they put the stamp
on that and the two seeds so they are more
than relevant in this. I will ask you this. Are
you big on seven game series all the way through?

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Like like because in baseball, what's the first round is
five game series? Is that correct?

Speaker 6 (01:27:46):
In the baseball?

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
Yeah? Five game then seven year?

Speaker 6 (01:27:49):
Well you have the super wall card right first to
two wins?

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
Right then? Isn't the next series divisional? Five games? In
the last two or seven? Right? It's changed over there,
But I think that's it. In the NBA Round one
all the way through seven games. So that's why the
playoffs take so long, right, it seems to have a
three game series. I remember the Rockets when Samson would
they were, you know, like, beat the Lakers and what
have In a three game series, you play, you know,

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you best of three. I can't remember the last time
they did that, but that was part of the NBA.
But seven game series from the get go. Are you
okay with that? Or would you rather shorten it?

Speaker 6 (01:28:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
I don't have a problem with the longer series because then.

Speaker 6 (01:28:28):
I just had to look it up.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
Was it too?

Speaker 6 (01:28:30):
I think two thousand and three is when they changed
the first round. Okay, it used to be five five, right, seven?

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
But in baseball still five in the divisional round if
I'm not mistaken, correct, I think so? And the first
round obviously, the wild card round was as Detroit showed
us last year. They won, you know, swept with two
quick wins. The thing that sucks about it, well one,
it's just it's so spaced out. Do you realize Game
one is Sunday night? Like the Rocket season has been
over since last Sunday? Oh yeah, the first game one

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of this series of this first round series will be
next this Sunday. Game two will be Wednesday, and then
Game three is the following Saturday. That's just what, Like,
we're going to seven games and we're spacing this thing
out with so many days off.

Speaker 5 (01:29:12):
And I understand, we've got so many teams in. We
gotta we got all these games. We gotta get in.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Like that's why it's not gonna be till the middle
of June when this is deciding.

Speaker 5 (01:29:20):
Yeah, like, you know what, bring back those afternoon playoff games.
I'm fine with a noon Friday playoff game. Like, let's go,
we're doing baseball, what we doing in basketball?

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
And think about this that game too? Where's that game two?
And this is this is obviously a rhetorical question. Where's
it being played? Gordy here in Houston? And they played
the first one not Saturday but Sunday, right Monday, Tuesday.
And it's a home game. I understand if you want
to give me the Hey, it's the NBA Wednesday to
the next weekend. Even then it's hard you're in a

(01:29:53):
private flight and it's hard for me to fathom you
need that much time, But I want to it's a
home game, so they're coming here, they leave it again.
They're gonna play Sunday and then they're gonna hang around
and practice and be ready to eat up. We could
play that game quite frankly, I don't understand why the
times you can't play him back to back. But I'll
leave that for somebody else. But even on Tuesday, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 6 (01:30:13):
A home game game.

Speaker 5 (01:30:15):
Yes, if I'm Steph Curry though, like, okay, we're gonna
go shoot around whoever I'm playing on my trip to
NASA on Monday afternoon.

Speaker 6 (01:30:23):
Yeah, I got a tea time at Wildcat on Tuesday.
Like you get so much damn time off.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
There is no way on this green earth that's Steph
Curry's golf clubs are not on that plane. Okay, you
know he said, they're thinking, well, let me think of
the championship courses. Who there's blue Jack, or maybe I
can get out to Columbus and they'll let me play
the big easy, the covey, you know, start to say,
I'm gonna go play. There's too much time. I wonder
if the players like this, I mean overall in the bargaining,

(01:30:51):
or we know it's made for TV. I get why
they're doing it, but I hate it because it takes
I like seven games series, but we can get them
done a lot quicker. You don't need what seven to
eight days to play three games.

Speaker 5 (01:31:03):
Well, the good thing is once we get to next Saturday,
April twenty sixth, we are every other day at that point, right,
So game three on a Saturday, Game four on a Monday,
Game five on a Wednesday, Game six on a Friday,
Game seven on a Sunday, now doing. But that's what's
crazy is game one is this Sunday, two weeks from
this Sunday would be game seveneven.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
Two weeks and fourteen days. Here's the game. Okay, so
the first few games you decide to give us all
those days in between, and then the next week it's closer,
but all the teams more than like they're all still
going to be playing because nobody will have been four games. Yeah,
you know what I mean. So why the first week
is it more important to give them day's rest I
mean next day rest and not the second week? Or

(01:31:44):
why can't you just give them two days period all
the way through?

Speaker 5 (01:31:48):
Well, and the top the tip times. The first two
games here in Houston are eight to thirty tips you know.
I think Matt Thomas mentioned yesterday when you get in
national anthem and oh game and all this page forty two,
your eight fifty eight fifty four tip, I mean, that's
really where it's going to be.

Speaker 6 (01:32:06):
So Ripdu and Dan. I think you'll be watching highlights
next at five am.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
Show me the clips.

Speaker 6 (01:32:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
Yeah, and and think about this too if you're on
the East coast. He just said to say, hey, man,
what time's that game start?

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
Ten, oh five, it's it's crazy nine fifty.

Speaker 6 (01:32:22):
We were in nuts.

Speaker 5 (01:32:23):
We were in New York last fall and I remember
we were walking around on somewhere and there was a
TV in a window and the Steelers were playing. I
was like, oh, it's you know, and it's dark out.
I'm like, oh, it's Sunday football. I was like, no,
that's the three o'clock game. Still we haven't even gotten
to the Sunday football yet. Got it on the East Coast.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
And how you're supposed to watch it then wake up
and go to work the next it's nuts. So yeah,
the Star times right, and I'm with you. Give me
afternoon hoops all day every day for the playoffs. I
don't need them all the primetime I'm all four changing
up a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:32:52):
I would rather, and maybe the folks over Toyta Center
will disagree, but like, I'd rather next Wednesday a noon
game as opposed to an eight thirty tip. Yeah, I
mean you can go do dinner at Tilman's Restaurants and
have a cocktailt the bar before you even head over
to Toyoda Center for.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
Tim exactly right, which means after that you're like, man,
I'm full now I need to go home and go
to bed, right, that's exactly Maybe I have a whole
drunk crowd. Yeah, that's that's right. But your whole point
about the top of this, about the buzz of going
in there and seeing it. It's different. We haven't seen
it here in a minute. And uh and I love
this and it's gonna be a fun matchup right out
of it. In seven game series, I I say, usually

(01:33:33):
the best team wins. We'll find out if the Rockets
A you gotta take you'd be great to take two here.
You just don't want to go down either row two
or I even think one to one, which is probably
gonna happen more than likely. But take two and put
yourself in a driver's seat, so you don't have to chase.

Speaker 5 (01:33:50):
We will get into what the players had to say
yesterday about this matchup. We'll get your thoughts. What are
you guys feeling about the Rockets and the Warriors seven
two on two five seven ninety biscuit brains that I
see you will get to you after this or here
on the Seawan Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (01:34:02):
Show, let the celebration start, or Sewn Salisbury the Seawan
Salisbury Show.

Speaker 5 (01:34:11):
She was wondering, like people who aren't religious at all
but have celebrate Easter, what are you celebrating exactly?

Speaker 6 (01:34:17):
Just the Easter, bunny coming, brunch, golf and candy that's
Cadbury and mimosas.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
I guess Jesus part out of it. Just you know, yeah,
I you know, I I don't know that that's a
good question. But I can assure you that you'll have
trouble getting a seated brunch and and uh, golf courses
will be filled. Yeah. So I can't think if if
religion isn't the top, or the Good Lord isn't at
the top of your thought process, then you think about

(01:34:46):
all the things that go with it. Okay, candy, sun pastel, colors,
brunch and a nap on the couch and whatever it
is you're cooking for inviting famis over for dinner. But
that's a good point. If it's if it, if it's
not centered around Jesus, what is it? Probably good food

(01:35:07):
in the mimosa.

Speaker 5 (01:35:07):
I guess Christmas is always you know, remember the reason
for the season and all that stuff. But you still
haven and other stuff. Right, This is just because it's
kind of one thing. And it's like you said, it's
a pretty big thing too.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
Called it good. It's a pretty big thing. So there
you go.

Speaker 5 (01:35:23):
It was an old comedian that did comedy with years ago.
He had a song and he say his refrain was
Jesus died, so let's eat chocolate.

Speaker 6 (01:35:31):
And it was a it was a like, why are
we doing this? What is the connection? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
I am too? Did you Did he ever get an answer?
Do we get an answer?

Speaker 6 (01:35:38):
Or what happened around gift baskets to the kids with chocolate?

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
Yeah? Oh, and that wasn't good enough. Then you have
to start giving the plastic eggs with money in it
because father, Oh yeah, and then and you know what
I bought my three kids when they were young and
all around within two years of each other, and the
golden egg started to get expensive, and it's like, okay,
the big ones out there bully you know not both

(01:36:06):
throwing elbows on his little brother. And then he's like, no, Dad,
give us any hint.

Speaker 11 (01:36:10):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
And then you, my daughter, who was the youngest, you say, hey,
maybe go check by the big oak tree over there.
And before you and now I loved hiding him. It
was really cool. Yeah, you found the twenty you go
like one hundred, like three or four twenties, but you'd
make sure that everybody at least got when you the youngest.
But it never get you know, candy, it is like

(01:36:32):
it used to be, even like candy at Halloween used
to be just be the small ones. And now I
find myself buying into the hype. I go and buy
candy bars. I don't give away. It's like forget handed,
you guys, quit coming to my house. I'm gonna keep
them for me because of the big candy bars. But
it is true. Easter went from all this it's about
the Lord, and then we went to I still that's
a great point. I don't know where the Easter bunny

(01:36:53):
and chocolate came into it. I mean, I don't hate
him for it, but and how we decided brunch is
a good thing, and it is, But I don't know
how we got to the point where that good Reese's
peanut butter cup stuff than a plastic egg wasn't enough,
or neither was the hard boiled egg that you may
put out there, in which we don't do seem to
do anymore. We just give them money expensive. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:37:16):
It's funny though, I guess nowadays instead of putting cash
in the eggs, maybe you just put a q scan
this QR code and you twenty dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
It's the truth, it is. I don't know where we're
going next with it, but I'm going to tell you
right now, Well, if nil hits Easter, we're in trouble, okay,
because they're going to price ourselves out.

Speaker 6 (01:37:35):
That's as you should do.

Speaker 5 (01:37:36):
Yeah, the football coach says, they do an egg hunt
on the football field.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
Hey, you earn it if you can. Finally, that'll be
your nil for your career. Here.

Speaker 5 (01:37:46):
Uh, it's a fun weekend though, Like you said, we
got the Astros back in town taking on the Padre
starting tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:37:51):
You'll hear that right here on seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (01:37:53):
Of course, the Rockets back in the playoffs, hitting the
court Sunday night against the Golden State Warriors, Game one,
A little bit of a late tip eight thirty. You'll
hear it on our sister station k t H seven
forty and uh, you'll thrown out there. You guys, what
are you feeling about this series? About this game? Uh
to believe you could pot. A biscuit calling here in
Houston wants to talk a little bit about the Rockets.

Speaker 6 (01:38:14):
Biscuit. What's up?

Speaker 13 (01:38:15):
Man wants something? My brothers A man happy reservation weekend? Man, Gordy,
Uh you and sign man? Y'all y'all telling on y'all.
Ma Hey, I love the late tips because that sh
They give me time to get off, get to the
sports bar, and I'm ready to go.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
Yeah, because you're you're you're making everybody else happy by
delivering gifts all day. Brother, So you gotta wait.

Speaker 13 (01:38:35):
I got you, man, I'm early to This ain't good
for me. Man, I'll tell you what sho. You've been
from the West Coast and I've been from the East Coast.
I much rather be on the East coast trying to
watch game the building. It was harder to have to
get up to watch a football game out there in
California at nine o'clock kickoff of no, man, give me
the East Coast. I deal with the late top kickoff.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
And you know what, Biscuit. Growing up in California, I'm
the opposite is like, damn, I love getting out of
bed walking in there's a game on. And also, you know,
you get like day baseball and people say the one
to five wild Card game or baseball game at Dodger
Stadium for the East Coast, and we'd be watching it
and be like, it's ten thirty, you know, the East

(01:39:17):
Coast game, but we'd be getting ready for it. The
East Coast game would be on obviously at ten o'clock.
You'd get a baseball game on at ten o'clock, and
then at one o'clock the Dodger game would start, but
it was still day game, and I know that's around
the time people are trying to get home. Because the
opposite for us is and you're right, that's why we
always have those late goers to like a Laker or
Dodger game, because well, traffic is still going at like

(01:39:39):
nine o'clock at night, right, biscuits. So it's a pain
in the ass. So I get your style. But I
grew up. I love like waking up and at nine
o'clock in the morning, college football is on my television.
So that's yeah. And it's just how you've grown up.
You like it where you can settle in at nine
thirty with that nice little drink and kicking it after
a long day. I'm with you. I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:59):
I do all right.

Speaker 13 (01:40:00):
Right, listen, let me say this, man and Sean. You know, Gordy,
I don't know if you know, but Seane I told him,
stay your course. Remember Sean trade people and get I said, man,
he got some talent.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
You've been saying that. I remember when they were trying
to trade well at least the talk of Jalen Green
being moved. Yeah, from the last year. I mean you
there's just been this has been over a year now.
You said, state of course, man, it's gonna grow. And
and here we are the two seeds. So you've you
lived by it, and it's and it's paid off at
least so far for you. You're exactly right.

Speaker 13 (01:40:32):
Right now to this series. Man, I'm looking at San
Goon and I'm looking at Thompson.

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
Man.

Speaker 13 (01:40:40):
Thompson is going to slow step down a little bit
at San Goon has got to take advantage. The Warriors
are weekend side, Shohn. I don't know if you watched
the Grizzly game, he had all kinds of opportunities. He
just wasn't able to take advantage of. Two years from
now he Hee probably will be able too, but he
hadn't night there yet, sang Poon, It's got to trown

(01:41:01):
them do inside. They're wink inside. Trown them inside, hit
the boards, go to the glass. You can kill them inside. Man,
if you get Draymond and Trout Troe. But they show
enough in trouble, So I'm man found it inside. Don't
turn the ball over.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
Rockets and six and then biscuit real quick? Do you who?

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Do you?

Speaker 3 (01:41:21):
Who?

Speaker 1 (01:41:21):
You run it at Steph the whole time? Are you
gonna Are you gonna move different players on him? Are
you gonna put are you putting Thompson the the whole time?
The whole time.

Speaker 13 (01:41:30):
Green gonna get some Thompson won't get some. Van Fleet
gonna get some, you know, cause Smith, I don't know
if you watch the shot that will be the worst
dude to guard man. That dude is on the run
from the beginning of.

Speaker 1 (01:41:40):
The game, running baseline, the baseline, yes, and catching and
go ahead. And the problem with just putting one on him,
you're in danger because your number one goal is I
can't let Steph go off. Foul trouble becomes a problem.
That's why you gotta you gotta mix and match and
try to in matchup situations. I don't know if one
guy can follow Hi around the whole time, because you
better be a condition because he runs and runs and

(01:42:02):
runs to get his shot, and.

Speaker 13 (01:42:05):
Then the minute you get tired and slip slip up
there he is in the corner, wide open three. So
so you gotta be fresh to guard him. So yeah,
it's gonna be. But I think the Rockets are six
men the whole country. Ippoly shot is sleeping on the rockets.

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
Man.

Speaker 13 (01:42:18):
I think they're not getting the rockets.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
They're just do fair enough. Yeah, the public and you know,
it's Golden State. It's the it's the name value as
well and the history of it. But I like the
rockets too. I think it goes. It's a long series,
whether it's six or seven. I think the Rockets are
going to sustain it and win. But Jimmy Butler get
was pretty good biscuit, great stuff. Man, Gordy, what do
you do you do you run Thompson Adam most of

(01:42:42):
the time, who's a really good defender? Or are you
okay with moving it around so one guy doesn't get
exhausted and get in foul trouble? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:42:49):
I think.

Speaker 5 (01:42:51):
From what I was reading last matchup, i'm in followed
him a round the majority of the time. What's so
amazing about i'men is his ability to guard in the
perimeter but still get to the rim and be one
of the best rim protectors out there as well. So yeah,
I mean, look, a'ma Thompson. I think he's ready for
this challenge. But if you go back and watch some

(01:43:12):
of the matchups from the season, they still had other
guys at times.

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
Jalen Green got have some fresh.

Speaker 6 (01:43:19):
Steph.

Speaker 5 (01:43:20):
I mean, yeah, you're gonna have to send a second
guy at him at times. And like we talked about
it earlier, like don't he's the one that can beat you?
Saw him fine, collapsing on him and let somebody else
be beat you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
I don't want to come out of the series, saying
Steph Curry dominated the series. I did it because if
that happens, there's a good chance you're not moving on.
I think the Rockets depth is going to give him
a chance. I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 6 (01:43:44):
Yeah, if Moses Moody is the one hitting big threes
over you, then you live.

Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
With that, right if he beats you to say it
was their time, right exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:43:51):
We'll got more to come here on Sports Talks of
the ninety We'll get more of your calls. How are
you feeling about the Astros or out of the Rockets
but mixing the astros as Welcome up this weekend here
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Speaker 4 (01:44:42):
For the Sewn Salisbury show continued, I'm thinking that thing
will wrap around nine ish.

Speaker 5 (01:44:50):
I'll be taking some Astros calls. That first quarter will
just be wrapping as I'm wrapping up Astro's postgame.

Speaker 1 (01:44:57):
And so my question to you is just getting ahead
of it. Who's sitting in a chair on Monday morning
with me?

Speaker 6 (01:45:03):
You know what I don't do. We didn't think that
far ahead, but it's probably.

Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
I think it'll just reminded you of that all that
good food and good gospel that you're going to study
on Sunday.

Speaker 6 (01:45:13):
I think we'll watching Rockets highlights at five am here
Monday morning.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
We'll collab at about five fifteen exactly. Hey, real quick,
I know we're going to get back to the Rockets
and Astros and get to our callers. You talk about
this transfer pot. You know how many Baylor players are
left from their basketball team?

Speaker 6 (01:45:31):
Oh Baylor basketball zero?

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
Wow, It says with the Baylor basketball players. Baylor men's
basketball team has no players left from last season and
the transfer, Hey let them go get their bag, is
what I hear a lot of times. And then Colorado's
offensive tackle says, you can't even form a brotherhood anymore.
And you know what, that's a great point. And I

(01:45:54):
know it's a different subject, but it just hit me
because one of the greatest things I ever gathered from
being a teammate in college is the relationships for the
entire years I was there without training. You know what
I'm saying, they're still fifteen of those guys are the
best friends in the world I could ever have. That
I'd rely on through it all, and it had nothing
to do with you catching a football. I had everything
to do with that practice and being around him all

(01:46:15):
the time. Football was the secondary part. As we've moved on,
so craziness.

Speaker 5 (01:46:20):
Kentucky signed a It was a four star receiver named
Hardley Gilmore last off season.

Speaker 1 (01:46:25):
To be confused with Hartley Dikes or.

Speaker 6 (01:46:28):
Or Happy gil that's right, but he signed with Kentucky.

Speaker 5 (01:46:31):
Went through all last year as a freshman, I believe
I shirted, played in a couple of games, and in
the December transfer portal, went the portal and transferred to Nebraska.
His wide receivers coach from Kentucky, I believe, left for
Nebraska and he went over there. Well, yesterday Harley Gilbour
announced he was back in the portal again and he's
going to Kentucky. So it's one of those the grass

(01:46:51):
isn't always greener. I thought I wanted to leave, realized
that this is it for me. I'm going back where
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
So the fact that because I know some coaches would say, oh, no,
you're not right. No either one I recruited you and
you didn't come here. I was sack. I finished second
or third or otherwise at some you were here, you
left and came back. Some would, if it's the same coach,
would say, now we're not doing it. I would suggest
that Kirby Smart wouldn't allow that to happen in football wise.

Speaker 11 (01:47:19):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
And by the way, that door don't open again, that's exact,
it stays clean. There's a dead bolt on it. And
I was looking at the numbers of who's got the
most nil money for basketball when I saw the Baylor
thing yesterday and I on this show and Tripoli will
Remember I said when once the season was going on,
we were, you know, in February and college basketball. So

(01:47:39):
I'm going to tell you you want to keep an
eye on a team in a school that's going to
erupt when it comes to NIL. It's Calipari in Arkansas.
And do you know right now they are at the
top of the nil money available for their college basketball
team because cal wouldn't go in there unless they made
that commitment with that Walmart and Tyson Foods money and
all that. And here they are. You look at the

(01:48:01):
top of the list and there's the Dukes and b
why us in at the top, and you know with
their big time recruit But you look at it Arkansas
and keep an eye on SMU. I'm just telling you
those schools are going to jump to the top nil
because they got it.

Speaker 5 (01:48:16):
He cal Per put on a video last night because
he had several players and outs are coming back, Knocks
and Toron Brazil and a bunch of guys, and.

Speaker 6 (01:48:26):
He made a joke.

Speaker 5 (01:48:26):
He's like, remember a year ago, I didn't have a team.
Now I have a team and they're coming back right, Well, yeah,
we got more money for you to cow there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:48:35):
Yeah, it is. It is interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:48:37):
I mean, some some schools that, look, the revenue is
coming from football, but there are some schools that are
kind of allocating that money now, going, you know what,
if we just go all in on basketball, we'll be
pretty damn good.

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
Oh and there's no go.

Speaker 5 (01:48:49):
That's that's the tough part is like every campus, you're
gonna have the football coach sticking his hand out going, hey,
we're the ones bringing the majority of the revenue.

Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
Is right, then those top teams are like twelve million
or something. And then I and this, there's a second
tier of like nine and ten million in University of
Houston's in that group on this list of nil available
dollars in a collective for them.

Speaker 5 (01:49:09):
Yeah, well that's that's that's the interesting part right now.
I think you of h with the success they're having,
Calvin's getting he's getting the money to take care of
his guys.

Speaker 6 (01:49:16):
But I think with yeah, with football, Willie Fritz is going, oh,
make sure some of them.

Speaker 1 (01:49:22):
Don't all that's right, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:49:24):
Let's get Roger in here real quick, find out what
he's feeling for these uh this Easter weekend in the Rockets.

Speaker 6 (01:49:30):
Roger, what's going on, Man, Hey.

Speaker 10 (01:49:32):
What's going on?

Speaker 9 (01:49:33):
Guys?

Speaker 10 (01:49:34):
No, I just uh, I just feel like the guys
of the networks and really catering these Warriors. You know,
it's not I don't know all the times you got
to say, it's not the same team, it's not the
same air, it's not even the same vibe.

Speaker 13 (01:49:48):
Really.

Speaker 10 (01:49:49):
I mean, what I really hope to happened is just
need to completely oviscerate the Warriors and just then to
be a non factor because I just feel like, you know,
all they're going to try to do. Curry's going to
get his sometimes, and I just feel like, you know,
dray Monk's going to be the donkey from Shrek. Ask
plown that he is if he's going to try to
aggravate and intimidate, you know, our our younger guy to

(01:50:11):
try to get in their head and hopefully don't. Just
got to prepare for that, which I know he will.

Speaker 6 (01:50:19):
Yeah, thanks for call Roger. Yeah, they that that's gonna
be the times.

Speaker 1 (01:50:24):
A big Emi A Doka fan too, he has been
for a while.

Speaker 5 (01:50:26):
Look, I know I may ain't afraid of anybody on
the on the other side of the court, but you
know that's the problem I mean last time out, Sean
Draymond elbows Shanon in the mouth and Sheanoon's down in
the court and they're running their attent too. Now, Shangun's
a tough SB. He gets up and stays in the game.
He's fine. But like this dude is out to hurt people.

(01:50:47):
Like how the league has not done even more in him.
I know, he leads the league always in technical fouls
and all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:50:53):
And now the Rashid Wallace is out of the league,
he gets the weak Draymond gets along total B.

Speaker 5 (01:50:58):
I mean, it's one to be an ass on, you know,
his attitude on the court as it is, But dude,
total B moves just acting actually hurting people.

Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
Oh, there's no doubt. And you know what Roger about
that the you know, the national you know broadcasts are
on the Golden State or over you know, overboard. But
the reasons why, Roger and we know this Steph Curry,
Draymond Green because he is a lightning rod. The Jimmy
Butler who is a lightning rod as well. It makes

(01:51:28):
for a better story and better ratings for them, you know.
Now the upstart young Udoka led Houston Rockets who are
really really frigging good. But I'm not saying they're boring.
We don't think it. But there's there's more needle movement
and more lightning rod stuff with the great player. Steve
Kerr is going to speak on everything, whether you want
to hear him talk or not. And then you go
through a couple of the others. Butler and Draymond Green

(01:51:51):
together that that that's a frigging hurricane rolling through, right.
So that's why I think there's people that give the
Rockets a legit chance, and they should is the two seed,
but the Golden State Warriors are always gonna get the
love that. Maybe you think it's over love, but it's
because they have a bunch of storylines and national broadcasts
love it and they're gonna ride it. If they're down

(01:52:13):
three to zero, it's not gonna be how good the
Rockets are playing. It's gonna be what happened to Golden State.
That's exactly how they're gonna say it.

Speaker 5 (01:52:19):
We'll squeeze branded in here real quick, Brandon, what's up
big weekend?

Speaker 14 (01:52:23):
Hey?

Speaker 13 (01:52:25):
How are you good man?

Speaker 6 (01:52:26):
What you got? Rocket's gonna win?

Speaker 3 (01:52:29):
Rockets and Astros?

Speaker 6 (01:52:31):
All right, I'll take that right, Astros win tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:52:36):
Yeah, get it done?

Speaker 6 (01:52:38):
Love it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
Are you Are you going to any games this weekend there, buddy, Brandon, Hey.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
Quinn Gordy, are you gonna be on the weekend for postgame?

Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
Yes? I will doing Sunday, not Saturday.

Speaker 6 (01:52:55):
No, not Saturday. That's ross.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
Hey man as well?

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
What song you're listening to there, Brandon, got the music
pump into the back. Let me try this again. Are
you going to any games in person this weekend there, Buddy?

Speaker 2 (01:53:15):
Yeah, so I'm going to the to the game on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:53:19):
We go Awesome. That's good man, You're gonna have fun.
I like how you get out to all these events.
That's cool. Good for you.

Speaker 3 (01:53:27):
Hey, Chris, Gordy, can you come come stop by?

Speaker 5 (01:53:32):
Stop by at the game if if you're there, I'm
not gonna be there. Well Saturday, I'm going to get
the bobblehead, but I don't know. If I see you
brand I'll come say hi.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
Okay, we just moved to the new house.

Speaker 6 (01:53:44):
Awesome. Always good to talk with you, Brandon, Thanks for calling, man,
have a good day, care every buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
I love how it calls you both names. Yeah, that's
my guy. I love I say he does, say Gordy
or Chris Chris one, Yeah, you get the double wheremy
I like that.

Speaker 5 (01:54:02):
Miss Carroll used to get it. Miss Carrol called for
so many years and she would still go Steve Gordie
and I'm like, where do you get Steve from?

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
Miss Carroll?

Speaker 1 (01:54:10):
Call miss Carrol. You let her do it, Let her
do whatever she wanted to do. Boy, she missed. We
need miss Carroll enthusiastic. You're not kidding? Well you get
do you get special privilege? You get called both Thames,
man Chris and man Brandon.

Speaker 6 (01:54:24):
I like it, call me Steve. But she'd always buy
did she call you Sean or mister Salisberry?

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
Both missus Saulsberry. And then she called our Bryant. Yeah, Brian,
there's a tea at the end of it. And you
know what, we all start calling him Brad. She was
a trendsetter and I love it. She's missed. She could
do whatever, Yes she could. She's a legend. God bless her.

Speaker 5 (01:54:46):
All right, Well, we hope that we get a little
bit of a blessing this weekend on the Houston Sports Gods.

Speaker 6 (01:54:51):
Uh smile upon Houston this weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:54:53):
We'll talk more on rockets and astros and hey, a
week away from the Texans draft as well.

Speaker 6 (01:54:58):
We'll talk about that next.

Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
Buckle up. The Shawn Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 6 (01:55:05):
It's gonna be a hell.

Speaker 1 (01:55:09):
And I you know, I never asked Mike about that,
but it's classic.

Speaker 5 (01:55:13):
Yeah, this story making arounds on social media. I don't
know how or why this popped up, but it's been
making the rounds. It was trending yesterday that Mike Leech
was talked down from lining up a little person, if
you will, in the backfield and then throwing them over
the line of scrimmage and short started situations.

Speaker 1 (01:55:31):
Are we allowed to laugh at this? I think we
are right.

Speaker 6 (01:55:34):
I mean, well, just again because it comes from Mike Leach.

Speaker 5 (01:55:36):
This is the same guy who gives wedding advice and
analyzes Halloween candy and everything else.

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
So it's one of the best cookies to eat.

Speaker 5 (01:55:44):
Yeah, but I think the the his line of thinking
was there's no rules over this, right, there's I mean
one that's awful, the thought of throwing a person over
the line of scrimmage, but also if he's got the
football in his hands, you just need to cross the plane.

Speaker 1 (01:55:59):
Right. Hey, we've push we we In Philadelphia, they line
up at the three yard line and push Jalen Hurts
from behind. What's the difference size and the meaning? But
if there's a guy who would have tried it and
now worried about the cancel him, you know it was
Mike Leach.

Speaker 6 (01:56:19):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:56:20):
I remember back at l U when they had a
kid former Houston Texas at one point, Trindon Holliday.

Speaker 6 (01:56:26):
When he was there track speed.

Speaker 5 (01:56:27):
Trindon Holliday was like five foot five, right, I mean
he was like Altuve height.

Speaker 1 (01:56:32):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:56:33):
They lined him up on a play behind the old lining.
You couldn't even see him, and they ran like a
sweet play or something, and it caught the defense off guard.
So the thought is kind of there an undersized, smaller person, what.

Speaker 1 (01:56:44):
Would have happened. Let's say they line up at the
one and they handed off and there's a big like
a ligneman's behind him.

Speaker 6 (01:56:52):
The guard pulls, picks scoops him.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
Up and throws him into the end zone. What would
what would have happened?

Speaker 5 (01:56:59):
I mean, you're tucking potential for serious head damage right
if you throw them, and then a defensive lineman crap.

Speaker 1 (01:57:05):
But the guy lands, secures the ball lands like three
yards deep in the end zone. What are we talking
about on Sunday or Monday the next week after a
college football game that Leech used? Would it become a trend?
Does every team? You know how we got rid of
the fullback for the most part of the NFL, they're
kind of creeping back into like carror ball, having getting

(01:57:28):
a guy, a move h back, a move tight in
and a full back. And all of a sudden, you
say they're drafting little people.

Speaker 6 (01:57:34):
Teams start drafting four foot.

Speaker 1 (01:57:36):
Nine exactly, and he's not a kicker, you know, although
those hell Darren bid at my punter when I was
in San Diego it was like six four and a
half about two sixty, so they brun those guys big too.
Could you imagine? But if it was gonna happen, Mike
Leech would be the guy to do it. And I
wouldn't be shocked with my guy Lane Kiffinson. You know,
I love me some Mike Leach too. He'd be the

(01:57:56):
next guy I think about doing.

Speaker 5 (01:57:57):
It, absolutely doing It's it's just it's crazy to think about.

Speaker 6 (01:58:01):
But yeah, look only only from the brain of Mike Leach.

Speaker 5 (01:58:05):
But like the crazy part about Mike Leach as crazy
as he was and said crazy things and was funny
as hell.

Speaker 6 (01:58:11):
It's damn good football coach.

Speaker 1 (01:58:12):
A great football great ere it goes, yeah, and of
you know, Gordy, I consider one of the true honors
and blessings of my life. And I'm being serious about this.
The summer before Mike Leach passed, I flew out to
It was a spring their camp. I flew out like
their football No, I take it back. It was in
the summer. I flew out to see to go to

(01:58:34):
to a practice, the camp that they were having for uh.
I can't remember the exact month, but the practice are
him for like three hundred of the recruits there. You
know that they're on their recruiting lift of football camp.
And we went up in first couple hours, sat in
his office and just laughed and talked. And I've known
Mike for We've done it many times, but there was
a part of me that wasn't gonna get on the plane.
I was thinking, Ah, you know, to go to camp.

(01:58:56):
I'll catch up Mike later. A handful of months later
he's dead. Yeah, And I just think about the laughs
we had, which we've had many times and his relationship
and all that he's you know, and my brother and
him have been best of friends for years, and all
the times I've had Mike on but just laughed with
him in person, talk football, great football coach. All the

(01:59:16):
quirky stuff got in the way of a guy who
and it was we all love it, but gotten the
way of a guy who could flat ass coach football. Right.

Speaker 5 (01:59:23):
And you look at what Mississippi State has fallen backward
into the immediately like they're so bad. You know, if
Mike had been there, I don't know if they're winning
the SEC, but all you gotta do is get ten
and two and get to the playoff.

Speaker 6 (01:59:37):
I think he would have been sniffing around on.

Speaker 1 (01:59:39):
That they're not a bye weekend. I'm going to tell
you what, some of these transfer seniors, they would have
gone and played for my beach because of the offense
that he runs. In the numbers, you put up.

Speaker 6 (01:59:46):
Quarterback that runs that kind of system, I mean, you absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:59:49):
Accuracy, which the NFL loves, and you know you're going
to throw it and you're going to have a blast
playing fast into him. Mike does another thing about that
is isn't he a is what's it called, Gordon? You
know this better than I do about like the qualifications
for certain stuff the Hall of Fame is isn't he
a vote? Is he a game away? Or what is

(02:00:10):
a couple of games away from this automatic qualification or something?
What is that thing that I read about Mike the
Hall of Fame?

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
Wise?

Speaker 6 (02:00:17):
Yeah, it was something about I think it was like
number for something.

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
Yeah, it qualifies him for the Hall of Fame. Right,
listen outliers, you got to have asterisk by some things,
and you just got to be able to step outside
the box. His innovation where he's gone and built programs
at Texas Tech with how mommy in the past and
that system they brought in and go to Texas, you know,
an assistant at Oklahoma State or at Oklahoma a lot

(02:00:44):
of different places in go do what you did at
Texas Tech when they when they weren't a dominant program,
what you did at Washington State they weren't not a
dominant program, good players, and what he was doing at
Mississippi State. And we all sit back and say, what
would Mike be like if he was at a you know,
at an Alabama bless you where he could get all
those guys and Mike, really, Mike was just getting part

(02:01:04):
of the nil stuff right right? Just did you when
it went full force? Mike would not like this and
bless you by the way. So I think that there's
certain things you got to look at impact. Forget the percentage.
Mike Leach belongs in the Football Hall College Football Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 5 (02:01:19):
The College Football of Fame requires coaches to win sixty
percent of their games to be eligible. He finished his
career at fifty nine point six percent.

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
Stop it. Yeah, and considering where he had to go
and compete, yeah, come on, well, if we do round up,
it's in school. Didn't they tell you all forty nine
or fifty nine to six? Make it it's sixty yeah, okay,
fifty nine to three key round down. But the fact
of the matter is is are we really splitting hairs
that much? You got to also look at the impact,
And Mike Leach made one, and we brought him up

(02:01:47):
today missing. But I'll tell you what I would have
loved to I don't know if it's inappropriate to say it,
but I think it would have been a classic to
see a guy, a little person lineup and literally the
right guard throws him into the inZone for such any
human rights, and he did. There had been more emails
and calls to the the university the next day on

(02:02:09):
Monday than Mike and Mike would have said. It was
a perfect game plan. Guys. He earned a scholarship, right
you a lyon?

Speaker 5 (02:02:20):
All Right, we got one more hour ago here on
the Seawan Salisbury Show. We got plenty more to get
to when it comes to the Astros Rockets, and hey,
just a week away from the Texans and the NFL Draft,
what position will they be going with? We'll update you
on some of the lace mock drafts and uh players
that the Texans could be adding.

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Speaker 6 (02:05:24):
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Speaker 14 (02:05:25):
Here.

Speaker 5 (02:05:26):
We are getting you guys set for a big sports
weekend of Astros and the Fathers coming to town.

Speaker 6 (02:05:33):
You like the San Diego Fathers do. I like what
San Diego Fathers?

Speaker 1 (02:05:39):
Who are they?

Speaker 6 (02:05:39):
The Padres?

Speaker 1 (02:05:42):
Dude, I've said here thinking did we get to new
soccer teams up in San Diego? The San Diego Yes,
the Fathers, the Friars as we used to call them.

Speaker 5 (02:05:49):
There you go, they are, They are in town. They
are the best team in baseball record wise. So hey,
no pressure, Ryan Gusto. Uh, they want to take it
a little bit easy facing that line up tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:06:01):
Hey, you're gonna love this too. Yeah, no question. This
may depending on the next few starts, Ryan Gusto, give
it as Gusto because we're priming for a Lance mccullor's rotation,
which would mean Gusto probably back to the bullpen with
a five man rotation, although he's giving you the versatility
to do both. His last start was, you know, not

(02:06:22):
as good as he'd been in the bullpen. But I'm
anxious to see this one and he probably realizes that
Lance is getting closer and talking to Dana Brown yesterday,
Gordy that the plan is for that they see mccullor's
which a lot of us wanted to really work them
slow into the bullpen. I think you're going to walk
right off the minor leagues and go right to the

(02:06:43):
starting rotation, which you put Gusto back. Listen to this
real quick, and we'll get back on Disastros or wherever
fran Brown you brought him up. Syracuse's head coach wide receiver,
Trevor Pania is entering the transfer portal. Here's fran Brown,
the head coach of Syracuse's response. You're gonna make two
million at wide receiver. That's the homie at Ohio State.

Speaker 6 (02:07:03):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (02:07:03):
I'm not giving no wide receiver two million in college.
Now that's a guy who's standing on business. Really. Yeah,
you head to Ohio State. You want to make that
you're not getting it here. And you know what, I
think he's probably spot on with the fact that he
will stand firm on that. Yeah, which means unless you're
the guy who's delivering the ball eighty times a game
and handing it off or throwing it, I'm not going

(02:07:23):
to consider it. That's for the Ohio State homie, right.
Love the way he said it.

Speaker 5 (02:07:27):
Well, this comes back to the baseball contract, like the
guy's getting the ten twelve year contracts where it's like
just because someone else is stupid and giving out that
contract doesn't mean I have to do That's exactly right.

Speaker 6 (02:07:37):
And that's where this Nico Iamaliava thing came from.

Speaker 5 (02:07:40):
Because the reports were that Carson Beck was getting four
million to leave Georgia go to Miami and the Darien
mensall left two line to go to Duke and he
got four million.

Speaker 6 (02:07:48):
Nobody in their right mind thinks that's a good deal.
Nobody says, oh, that's that's all do. It's exactly what
Duke had to do. Like no, no, like that's a
bad deal. So then Nico's like, well, why am I
not getting formullion because you're not worth it. That guy's
not worth it either. But just because they're.

Speaker 1 (02:08:04):
Stupid, I have to be stupid and pay you that
right Tennessee is not on Duke's payroll, vice versa. They
do it, and we all of a sudden think you're
right that. Well, now, if you're talking about to keep
up with the Joneses world, the way that we're paying people,
you may have to do it to consider to keep
yourself in the national title, which I hate. But there's
some guys fran Brown paying a receiver that some just

(02:08:26):
sit there and say, Jim Crane approach. You're good, Hey,
we'll take you to a certain place, but after that
we're just we're just not going there.

Speaker 5 (02:08:35):
Well, you keep it up with the jones The Joneses
have spoken. The number is not that high anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:08:40):
And guess what a lot of times, in a lot
of cases, the Joneses don't end up wearing with the
ring on their fingers. The Joneses get close, and then
you say, I kept up with the Joneses. I came
up short because the camaraderie, or we left the roster,
what have you. But just because they do it doesn't
mean everybody's got it or it's the smart move. And
Nico played his hand, and guess what he's gonna start,

(02:09:00):
And he may end up making a lot of money
and being a high draft pick if he decides to
leave next year, because just some people know this. He's
not a true freshman last year. He is a red
shirt sophomore this year coming up, so he can leave
to the NFL after his third year on campus, whether
he stays or not. But and he may turn out
to be a great player, but in truth, he wasn't
worth it. And Tennessee did the right thing, and they'll

(02:09:21):
have to live with it, and so will he. But
he played a hand and somebody called him on it,
just like fran Brown's calling his receiver saying, we don't
pay receivers two million dollars here, so go ahead and
leave and go to Ohio State. But it's not happening here,
and I like it because we're gonna need more. And
then you're gonna need the fraternity of coaches Gordy to
say he's leaving, I'm not doing it either, and a

(02:09:42):
lot of them it felt like we're doing that to
Nico right because there wasn't a lot of schools standing
in line at least that we're willing to pay that.
And UCLA is not going to pay him more than
he made in Tennessee as a freshman. It's going to
be in the million plus range, not in the two
million plus range. On the good news is he's moving
back closer to home. Probably gonna have to go stay
with mom and dad to make that money work because

(02:10:03):
California taxes and everything else. You start taking all that out,
you're probably you're probably banking two hundred thousand his college
apartment at UCLA. He might as well live in River Oaks, Right, Okay,
that's what it's gonna With all the taxes and what's
gonna cost him, he might as well live at River
Oaks and whatever vehicle he's gonna drive or has from
all this nil, it's gonna stay parked most of the time.

(02:10:26):
And park not because you wanted to, because you're on
the four or five freeway rolling right through there, and
it's it's a it's a parking lot on a freeway.
So yeah, it's gonna it's gonna cost a little bit
of money. His money goes a lot farther in Knoxville, Tennessee.

Speaker 8 (02:10:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:10:39):
Well, and not to mention, you walk around campus in Knoxville,
everybody knows who you are. Oh, it's Nico, It's Nico.
You walk around campus of UCLA, they're gonna go, oh,
we have football.

Speaker 1 (02:10:48):
Yeah that's and I gotta be real and Mike and
my campus at SC smaller, like sixteen thousand undergrads. You
could see the same buddies or the hot girl that
you had a crush on in college at the same
spot every day. Because it was a small campus. Right
at u c l A.

Speaker 6 (02:11:04):
You may not see him for three weeks. For a
month and a half.

Speaker 1 (02:11:07):
So yeah, he he'll if you if you want to
just blend in Ucla, is it because there's a lot
of priorities, and guess what the top one is. And
at the Rose Bowl if you're if you're not winning,
elect Troy Aikmand, we're there. There's plenty of seats. Oh yeah,
and that'll happen. Maybe.

Speaker 5 (02:11:23):
Plenty of good tickets still available for this Ucla football.

Speaker 1 (02:11:26):
So if you want to go to Pasadena, you can
have at it. You'll have seats available at the Rose Bowl.

Speaker 5 (02:11:30):
Another one I blame though, in all this Sean is
and and nothing against Shannon Terry, who built up an
empire twenty four to seven sports and is now doing
the same thing with ON three. But the worst thing
they created over it ON three is the nil valuation
Because what's happening is and I saw some of these
idiot advisor people out there too, like, well.

Speaker 6 (02:11:50):
He had an nil valuation of three million. Okay, great,
just because some website says that what were the actual
people with money saying, right, you're worth that's matters, well,
not what some website evaluates you at.

Speaker 1 (02:12:03):
Yeah, and Gordy, isn't that true? In business? You know
when your business, Hey, our valuations for four and a
half million bucks?

Speaker 5 (02:12:08):
Yeah, what's Mark Cuban and the Sharks way you're waiting
for they're the ones actually putting the money up.

Speaker 1 (02:12:13):
Our company is valued at one hundred million. Yeah, and
you're you're going to sell it. Yeah, we're going to
sell it. What are they offering? Sixty sixteen? Okay, So
that's valuation is one thing. Getting somebody to negotiate where
you think the value of the valuation of your company
is another whole thing.

Speaker 6 (02:12:27):
So Wonderful says difference.

Speaker 1 (02:12:29):
Yeah, that's exactly right. That's exactly right. And it's no
different eventually, salary cap you're going to have a capologist
in college. It's all coming, it's all coming. And even
Jay Billis is on board.

Speaker 3 (02:12:42):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:12:42):
Jay's the players through and through with this right, and
I love him and he's a bright guy. But there
also comes a point when the regulation I don't know
what it's coming because we said earlier the last person
of the party is the one who's the governing body,
which is which is an embarrassment all the way through
and through. But it's as close to pro football as
we've ever had and We're not even near where it's

(02:13:05):
going to be a year from now. As they continue
to work this, it will be as close to the
NFL as you've seen with free agency. You have to
do something. This can't continue again. Eleven thousand plus players
in the portal, there will there's going to be a
percentage of them that don't have a place to go.
When all this has said, none and then in the
dust players.

Speaker 5 (02:13:24):
Some breaking news not in the good way. For the
University of Houston Cougars starting cornerback corner Jeremiah Wilson has
entered the portal. Five eighty five pounds corner sixty one tackles,
ten passes, defense five interceptions. In his career, he was
rated as the number eight returning corner in the country.
Played in all twelve games last year for the Kougs, and.

Speaker 6 (02:13:47):
He is in the portal.

Speaker 1 (02:13:48):
So he's going the portal, which means to tell you
that he's going somewhere bigger because he thinks he's worth
more money. Correct probably, Yeah, So that's a loss for
the Kougs, big time, really good player. And when then
that's the problem. Now, even as a coach you recruit them,
they come to your school. You may pay them their
money and then they're good, and after you've done training

(02:14:11):
them for a year or two, they end up going
somewhere else if you can't keep up. And that right there,
in essence is a is the big problem as to
why college football and you brought it up, is I
personally think college football is ruined. Now when I say ruined,
doesn't mean I'm not going to watch it. No, it
doesn't mean I don't love it. No, and may be
ruined is a little too harsh, but I can tell

(02:14:33):
you this, Gordy, it is damaged to it. It's more
than fractured. It's damaged, and and not for our viewing pleasure.
It just isn't just what happened to growing up. Want
to play for that school and I'm throwing through that school,
and hey, if I can make some money, great, But
like there's just no you know the word loyalty.

Speaker 6 (02:14:51):
It is just there's no.

Speaker 1 (02:14:52):
Loyalty either way. And the thing too is I make
this point and I believe in it is when you're
out of school and the money spent and most of
these guys and hence why they deserve to get paid,
are not going to get paid much on Sundays or
not going to make it on Sundays the majority of them.
So I get it. You get a head start in life,

(02:15:13):
which everybody would like. But you know, fifteen years when
you go back and the fellow say, hey, Sean, we're
having a where we're gonna have tailgate? Or twenty years,
where do you go if you've been to four schools? Honestly,
because my loyalty to my college is even deeper than
my loyalty to my favorite NFL team, even team I
played for or growing up as a diehard Rader fan,

(02:15:34):
it's more loyal to the Trojans because it feels it's
the other one. Kind of you felt like it rented you.
You know that, But you feel like when you go
to college, that's who you are, and then your tailgating
with your buddies, you're going to games, and that your
LSU connection is the same. You don't have to play
sports to feel it. It's all the other stuff and
it's the same here. Where do you and that brotherhood
that you mentioned and being close and now you may

(02:15:56):
have four different brotherhoods. It's good to meet new people.
I get it, But think about that when somebody says,
you go into your re reunion, which one, Yeah, I
understand the.

Speaker 6 (02:16:05):
Word Where's is he going to Alabama or Oklahoma?

Speaker 1 (02:16:07):
And that was only two? Yeah, that's two think about
I mean, where, where's Where's cam Ward going? Where's where?
Where Where's he going? Is he going back to where
it all started? Right in carnate word legend. Cam Ward's
the first pick of the draft, So I don't know,
maybe I'm too melancholy about it, but that did matter
to me then, but the money has made it not

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matter now.

Speaker 5 (02:16:30):
Well, continue this conversation on the net. On the other side,
we'll also get into some NFL draft talk. A week
away from the Texans making their first round pick, we'll
talk about the.

Speaker 2 (02:16:38):
Next The Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 6 (02:16:44):
The Astros play early enough.

Speaker 5 (02:16:46):
I think we're actually gonna do a simulcast, so as
soon as Astros wraps on seven ninety, will join in
progress Rockets here on seven ninety, as well as the
entire game on seven forty, so that's a playoff game.

Speaker 1 (02:16:56):
Might as well do the double dicile cast absolutely.

Speaker 6 (02:16:59):
So I'll got that.

Speaker 5 (02:17:00):
And then, of course the news coming out just a
few minutes ago that U of h stood corner. Jeremiah
Wilson is reportedly entering the transfer portal rated one of
the top ten corners in all of college football. So
Willie Fritz a hit to him and his grouping. We're
talking a little bit on college football. Let's you want
to get Patton here real quick out shore. Let's do

(02:17:22):
it for sure for believe Paul, Pat Forrest, Pat, what's
going on?

Speaker 6 (02:17:25):
What you got?

Speaker 3 (02:17:26):
Not much?

Speaker 13 (02:17:27):
Guys.

Speaker 14 (02:17:27):
I just joined the chat, uh and I hear y'
all talking about college football getting ruined, And man, it's
not get ruined.

Speaker 8 (02:17:35):
It's just changing and it's not what it used to be.
And you're absolutely right from that perspective. But man, it's
still competitive football.

Speaker 14 (02:17:45):
These kids are getting paid, which is you know, kudos
to them. I'm worried that, you know, these kids can
handle a lot of that. But uh man, you know,
look what college football was, you know, in the last
few decads.

Speaker 8 (02:18:00):
A that's dominated by by school, dominated by coaches.

Speaker 14 (02:18:05):
Sean who did you play for USC?

Speaker 1 (02:18:07):
John Robinson?

Speaker 14 (02:18:08):
John Robinson? Okay, I mean and here was an institution.

Speaker 1 (02:18:11):
There, right, absolutely yep.

Speaker 8 (02:18:14):
And those guys, you know, dominated the sport. And whether
it's Paterno or or you know Bear Bryant back in
the day.

Speaker 14 (02:18:25):
I mean that the whole.

Speaker 8 (02:18:28):
Landscape is changing, and I think it's opening up some
fun stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:18:32):
Hey hey, Pat, let me ask you a question. If
you don't mind with that, and you make it, you
make a great point. And and and ruining. That's why
I corrected it. Ruining is probably way too harsh because
we're still if it ruins it, who wants to watch
something ruined? I still love college football. It's my favorite
Saturday's college football off the charts. And I guess my
perfective is it's fractured and and and it's well, it

(02:18:55):
may be a little bit broke. I don't think it's
beyond repair, but it is go in the wrong direction.
I'm all four guys getting paid. We got to do
it the right way. You got to regulate it. But
let me ask you this. For me, when I say that,
it's not just the actual product of a guy playing
at Alabama, it's a good player, it's the overall camaraderie
off the field, the loyalty, all those things. Bunch and

(02:19:17):
one that means for me, it is fractured, the game,
We're still going to watch it. I love the game.
The athletes are special. But the fact that you're like, man,
twenty seven guys are now on this team at eleven
thousand kids moving from one to the other. It is changing.
But part of the change, some of the change, A
lot of the change isn't good for our viewing pleasure.
But the players getting paid is. So that's why you

(02:19:39):
got to bring them together. So I would ask you,
and you said, the dominant teams won, isn't nil creating
that those dominant teams are even going to have a
bigger chance to win because they're going to be the
ones with the most money.

Speaker 8 (02:19:51):
Yeah, no, absolutely, And the schools are going to have
to change their game. And you know, the whole you know,
one and done college basketball player changed the whole basketball agreement.
But that was the reason Calvin Sampson was able to
come in and do what he did because these.

Speaker 14 (02:20:10):
Guys that stayed, guys that were finding the program didn't
have the elite talents. UH wasn't getting the recruits that
Kentucky was getting.

Speaker 8 (02:20:20):
But he was able to put together a great program.
And that's what the schools are gonna have to adjust
and figure out what that formula is. And it's gonna
be you know, ever changing.

Speaker 14 (02:20:29):
So I mean, look at this year's play playoff in football,
I mean Ohio State.

Speaker 8 (02:20:34):
I mean I had a rooting interest for two or
three other teams, but Ohio State had the toughest draw
in the in the whole playoff bracket, and they went
through and mowed through them all and won a championship.

Speaker 14 (02:20:48):
So we got great product, we got great results.

Speaker 9 (02:20:51):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (02:20:52):
You know, we have what back to back Big Ten
champions after you know, having the SEC dominate for so
long of Hey, something's changing, and you know, schools are
gonna have to step up.

Speaker 14 (02:21:06):
Coaches are gonna have to evolve, programs are gonna have
to evolve. Uh check have you checked out the L
S U N I L. I don't know if it's.

Speaker 8 (02:21:16):
Netflix, one of those channels ran a little series on
them on all the athletes that they bring in and
actually support, have an NIL support, social media, support, things
along the vines.

Speaker 14 (02:21:28):
Dude, It's just it's just different.

Speaker 8 (02:21:30):
You know, you're not gonna have Barry Switcher rolling into
a school cafeteria with a fur coat on and and
and all the national championship brings, you.

Speaker 14 (02:21:39):
Know, pulling O'Brian Bosworth out of the lunch room.

Speaker 1 (02:21:44):
If in that making, if in that fur code he's
got to buy a bag of cash, then you can right,
that's right.

Speaker 14 (02:21:50):
Absolutely, dude.

Speaker 8 (02:21:51):
But no, it's you know, I'm an older guy.

Speaker 14 (02:21:53):
I've I've got and I've got kids in college and and.

Speaker 8 (02:21:57):
Uh and and I tell you, when I hear my school,
one of my schools I root for just picked up
an Alabama player that was buried on the bench, I
get excited because they had to be pretty damn good
for Alabama to recruit them.

Speaker 1 (02:22:10):
Anyway, right, absolutely.

Speaker 14 (02:22:11):
And and Sean who was a USC quarterback that never played,
he was stuckon.

Speaker 1 (02:22:17):
Behind Matt Castle. Matt Castle, Yeah, man, And.

Speaker 8 (02:22:21):
That guy was stuck and he went on and had
a decent I mean, he had an NFL career. And
I love seeing these guys to get buried on the
bench have a chance, have a chance to go play somewhere.

Speaker 1 (02:22:35):
That's the good part of it. That's a good part
of the path of the of the transfer portal where
you get a chance if you if you left because
you want a chance to play, that that that that
that's the part of the transfer portal that is good,
no doubt.

Speaker 14 (02:22:46):
But the camaraderie. You're talking about all that stuff, you know,
that's even gone to some extent on the high school level.

Speaker 8 (02:22:54):
But no, absolutely, Uh, that part is going to be lost.
And for the kids that might be a lesser experience
or just a different experience.

Speaker 14 (02:23:02):
Dude. I remember scrounging together with my roommate to be
able to split a Schilatsky sandwich with my Sunday Sunday.

Speaker 8 (02:23:10):
Evening meal that I didn't that wasn't included on my
meal plan back in college.

Speaker 14 (02:23:15):
Those none of those guys are having.

Speaker 6 (02:23:16):
To do that.

Speaker 8 (02:23:17):
They're going out and eating at nice restaurants like Red
Lobster and Applebee's and and all that stuff. Now, so
I mean those it's just different and uh, and it's
gonna be fun to see who figures it out, who
who makes the adjustment, who who does the Kelvin Sampson

(02:23:38):
model on a football front, you know, And I man,
I I'm embracing it. I'd like I'm kind of like
the sea out and see how it's happen.

Speaker 1 (02:23:48):
So Pat, thanks for the call. Great, great, great point.
And let me tell you this, And Gordy, Uh, it's
not just Red Lobster and Applebee's. It's mascows and steakhouses
and the seafood restaurants that are charging up. That's the
seventy five dollars for New York.

Speaker 5 (02:24:04):
When I go to SEC media days and I get
to always like getting to interview a lot of these
current athletes and players and stuff. But I always ask him.
I always like to kind of get to normal. They said,
you know, what's your what's your favorite go to restaurant, Sean.
They don't tell me Red Lobster or Chili's. They're telling
me it's the steak house in town.

Speaker 1 (02:24:22):
Yeah for me. For us back then, it was Del
Taco or Taco Bell because you got eight items for
four bucks.

Speaker 6 (02:24:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:24:29):
Well, Aaron Foster said, remember when he was talking about
in Tennessee, he was eating ramen noodles and something. I
didn't have anything any kind of food, and it's like,
you know, that's that's what.

Speaker 1 (02:24:39):
It was, and it then, trust me, it was. That's
not hyperbolic. That is a fact that you'd buy the
cheapest lunch meat and everything you could because you just
didn't have any money after your scholarship and if your
check was.

Speaker 6 (02:24:49):
Through college town.

Speaker 5 (02:24:50):
When you walk into that restaurant. The manager sees you.
They're taking care of you. Remember you're no back in
the day. If you got a free meal, we put
you on suspension.

Speaker 1 (02:24:59):
Right now. Now you own the steakhouse. So there you
go as a college student.

Speaker 6 (02:25:03):
Yeah, put on my.

Speaker 5 (02:25:04):
Tap'say and I will take care of it. It's right,
all right, We need to grab a time out. We'll
come back more here on the Sean Salisbury Show. Speaking
of college, the Texans just wrapped up a draft visit
with an Ohio State player.

Speaker 6 (02:25:15):
Will tell you who that is coming up next.

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Speaker 2 (02:26:04):
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Speaker 5 (02:26:09):
The Arizona wide receiver Tetoroa McMillan, which would be a
fall because the most draft boards have him higher, have
had him as the number one receiver off the board,
so that would be quite a fall for him. Another
one had them taking Oregon offensive lineman Josh Connerly, and
then another one had them taking North Dakota State offensive

(02:26:31):
lineman Gray's Zable.

Speaker 1 (02:26:33):
That's who McShay has him taken as well.

Speaker 5 (02:26:35):
Now, the only thing with that and U are Cole Thompson,
who's our producer on the A team. Now, he brought
up yesterday that SoundBite of Nick Cassaria earlier this week
basically all but saying like they basically steer clear of
small school guys, and you go look at the since
Casario has been here, the schools they're drafted from. First off,

(02:26:56):
it's mostly SEC guys LSU, tons of guys from Allay Obama,
lasser from Georgia.

Speaker 6 (02:27:02):
I mean it's it's big time programs. They're drafting guys
from Gordi.

Speaker 1 (02:27:06):
You're huge into college football and you do your podcast
and you SEC for a long time, but you're dialed
into all of it. So let me ask your opinion
on this. You're the GM all things being equal, are
you leaning big school? You're an LSU guy. Are you
leaning big school on a player? Is it strictly the

(02:27:27):
talent of the player regardless of where they play, or
are you app if all things are equal, same size,
same speed, good kid, are you apt to take the
guy who played in what we quote unquote tougher competition.

Speaker 5 (02:27:39):
It's hard, Like I understand the valuation. You you got
to get watching the tape. I mean it's one his
tape better pop, I mean, he better look like stand out, like,
oh my god, this is all the time. He was
by far the best player on the field. But then two,
you know, you got to the underwear Olympics and everything
at the combine. You got to take all that into
account of well, but I mean that's the toughest part

(02:28:02):
because I remember watching some of the film on Joe
Flacco coming out of Delaware, and I'm like, it's Delaware.

Speaker 1 (02:28:07):
Ain't NFL started pit? Yeah from Delaware?

Speaker 3 (02:28:12):
Right?

Speaker 6 (02:28:12):
Like you watch it, it's like, how do you evaluate that?

Speaker 1 (02:28:14):
Right?

Speaker 6 (02:28:14):
How do you see a guy at play?

Speaker 5 (02:28:16):
You know, Trey Lance looked awesome, right, didn't translate, you know,
So it's it's just.

Speaker 1 (02:28:23):
Jordan Love at at Utah State does transfer because he's
played pretty good for But you're exactly right, And I
think most people lean to those bigger programs, but you'll
get a special player out of it. But you're it
is and the translation, especially when it comes to quarterback,
the ability to it's such a hard position to value
because it gets right down to it. Nobody had Brady

(02:28:44):
pegged for what he went for after he left the
University of Michigan other than you saw comeback win. But
you didn't think he was pegged for this. You never
know in the quarterback what their makeup is on the
mental and emotional side, not just the physical side.

Speaker 6 (02:28:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:28:56):
Well, and Brady was a freak, but that's what I'm saying.
But not a freak in the weight room, no, no, no,
but a football savant and a freak no question about.

Speaker 6 (02:29:05):
It, sock.

Speaker 5 (02:29:06):
The Texans were looking at pick number twenty five in
the first round, pick number fifty eight in the second round,
and a name to keep an eye on there. Our
own Aeron Wilson posted this morning that the Texans just
wrapped up a visit with Ohio State guard Donovan Jackson.
He was an All American offensive guard to Ohio State,
an Episcopal graduate, and capable a filling in at left

(02:29:28):
tackle when his teammate Josh Shimmans was sideline. He visited
the Texans on Wednesday's. A prototypical guard prospect has visited
a number of teams. He's projected late first, early second.
So you just start to wonder, there, okay, is twenty
five a little bit high?

Speaker 3 (02:29:45):
Here?

Speaker 6 (02:29:45):
Can we make a phone call some of these teams.

Speaker 5 (02:29:47):
You start to see quarterbacks fall Jalen Milroe is still there,
Jackson darts still on the board. Some of those guys
are falling. Do you make those phone calls and say, look,
let's slide back to the thirties. We'll take dark guy
Donovan Jackson. We'll get a plug plug in guard, immediately
play right right away, and we pick up more value,
pick up some extra pair.

Speaker 1 (02:30:05):
And also obviously a national champion played in huge games.
But you get the guy who can play more than
one position. People like the swing ability to be able
to do both, as we've seen. But more importantly, Gordy,
I'll ask you this, then i'll tell you my answer.
Do I like him or do I love him? In
the first round. If I love him, draft him regardless

(02:30:28):
of if his grade is the fortieth player not the
twenty fifth player, right, you draft him, That's how. But yes,
when you talk about value of Aliston, I really like him.
But I can get him with a fifth pick of
the second round or whatever it is, by the trade,
of course you do and get another asset to me
if I'm loving and I don't really care what you think,

(02:30:49):
right or what the valuation of that what pick is
placed on him. Between this and this, I care about
how I think he's going to impact my team. But
there is that thing, and the Raiders have done this.
A guy who's the third round pick and you draft
him in the first round in the teens, it's like,
what are you doing? But in that case, because I
think between twenty five and forty, Gordy, I can take

(02:31:12):
the thirty eighth guy and draft him twenty ninth, and
I can take the twenty eighth guy and draft him fortieth. Right,
depending on each evaluation, it's not the same. So for me,
I actually think there could be one or two Ohio
state players in play.

Speaker 6 (02:31:24):
There.

Speaker 1 (02:31:24):
You mentioned the guard, and if a receiver, if a
book of falls that far, there's a chance you take him.
So it comes down to what we need. Line, if
I ask you this, just on this current team, you
like him, You love one and you like the other,
even though you may need one more than the other.
If you love the receiver and like the lineman, what
are you doing at twenty five if you don't trade

(02:31:45):
up or trade out.

Speaker 6 (02:31:47):
Well, that's the tough part.

Speaker 5 (02:31:49):
I mean, I'm a little bit snake bitten on The
last time Nic Cassero took a guard in the first
round was Kenyan Green.

Speaker 6 (02:31:55):
It didn't work out well.

Speaker 1 (02:31:57):
And it's not fair, but it's true. That's how we think. Man.

Speaker 5 (02:32:00):
Somebody tell me years ago you'd never take a guard
in the first round. You take tackles in the first round.
Guards are second, third, and fourth.

Speaker 1 (02:32:06):
Rounds unless your name is Quinton Nelson.

Speaker 6 (02:32:09):
Like that, right?

Speaker 5 (02:32:09):
A freak, But that's so, I don't know. That always
sticks out in my mind as well. I feel weird
taking a guard. But again, like, if you think Donovan
Jackson's going to be there at thirty three, thirty four,
thirty five, like absolutely trade back ten picks.

Speaker 1 (02:32:23):
Oh, I'm off for it. Now if at twenty five
you think he's a first rounder and we're penciling him
in and we expect him to be our starting guard
for ten years and you love him.

Speaker 14 (02:32:32):
You.

Speaker 5 (02:32:34):
Better love him. That's exactly right now Here here's a
tough point. I mean, that's gonna be a fascinating part
when they get the camp. Here, how the hell is
this offensive line shape up? Because you brought it up
A lot of dudes have played. But if Cam Robinson,
like I'm looking at one projection, they have Cam Robinson
late as you're starting left tackle, no offense to him.

Speaker 6 (02:32:52):
But I've seen Cam Robinson played left tackle. It didn't
go great.

Speaker 1 (02:32:56):
So it's not an upgrade as far as just the
pure optics of him and Lara who he replaced. Right,
I can guarantee he's not going to jump off sides
twelve times, but who knows if once the ball snapped
he's as good, but trying to put a mosh pit
together and make sure that the Titus Howard's at his
right position. If you do draft, listen, in the first
two picks, they're drafting an offensive lineman somehow, some way

(02:33:18):
with a trade up, trade down, or stay where they are.
And in the second round. And I also believe Gordy
for me, the first two or three picks in this
draft for them are offensive players. At least that would
be my approach. And the less of course, Nick, who
he said a great player is sitting there on defense
and you love him, you draft him because he's the
best player on your board. I'm a best player available.

Speaker 6 (02:33:41):
That's what Nick stands by though. That's what he says
is we are best player available.

Speaker 5 (02:33:44):
And that's what's crazy is if there's some stud edge
rusher that falls and he's there at twenty five, you're
gonna take him, and we're all gonna.

Speaker 6 (02:33:52):
Go, what the hell they doing?

Speaker 5 (02:33:52):
You got Will Anderson Jr. You got Daniel Hunter. They're
gonna go, we don't care. He was the best player
on our board and we're greedy and we'll take another one.
And gives you a sets to say, well, who knows
what we're gonna do with this guy or the next guy.

Speaker 1 (02:34:03):
So the spot and you're zero depense exactly right. So
now what really makes it a great draft for you?
Because you're supposed to win in the first round. It's
all the other picks that you got to make sure
you're the first round you expect to win. What's great
is if you say, well, not only is he the
best player available, we also love him and it's a

(02:34:24):
major need. When all three of those categories hit you
drafted in Also, you.

Speaker 5 (02:34:28):
Never draft for need. We never draft for need. Well, okay,
sometimes you draft for need. When when you took c. J. Stroud, Look,
he may have been one of the best players on
your board, but it was also a draft for needy.

Speaker 1 (02:34:41):
Okay, they need a guard. Let's say they need a
tight end and both faulty and you have and you
love them both, and on your grade board they're both
eight point nines, but you need the more. You have
a tougher deed. To the inside, who do you think
you're drafted you're taking if all things are equal, you're
to grab the need guy if you think both are great.

(02:35:02):
If you have him both great to the same the
need guy. So yes, at some point in time, need
does become a part of this and it will in
this draft as well.

Speaker 6 (02:35:11):
You mentioned tight end. I had somebody showed me the his,
the his. The hit rate on first round tight ends
is very low, which don't don't look at like.

Speaker 1 (02:35:20):
Right, which is wild. You know, you look at mid
round draft picks for Kittle, you know, I mean, was
not a first round pick and Kelsey Kelsey, same way,
and then you start to look. I would if you
would have told me Pitts wasn't going to be a
dominant player and he's a good player, but did he
we would be talking about him like we are Kelsey now,
I would have said, you're out of your mind.

Speaker 6 (02:35:40):
An absolute stud.

Speaker 5 (02:35:41):
And then you go look at Falcons box scores and
two catches for ten yards exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:35:44):
That was my first round pick. Happened to our tight end,
the difference maker, the tight end from Alabama four or
five years ago, five years six years ago? What was
his name? O? J. Howard? He was a top you
can't miss guy, right yep, they missed, Yeah, couldn't.

Speaker 6 (02:36:00):
They're saying that about the Penn State kid right now?

Speaker 1 (02:36:02):
Excuse can't miss Todd mcshaye told me, I know we
got to go to break Gordon. He told me, he said, Sean,
I've gone through it every way shape and for him,
I've looked at I said, even if he fails, he'll
be a good player. That's what he said. He goes,
even if he's not good, he'll be good. So he goes.
I just can't see how when you put him in
there that the guy actually fails at the position. He said,

(02:36:24):
if he's okay, he'll be good. That's how he feels.
That's how he feels about the kid. Now and the
history of the first round tight ends is you're you're
better off, yeah, taking him in a second You're taking
him in.

Speaker 6 (02:36:35):
The first round. That guy better you better average fifty
yards a game.

Speaker 1 (02:36:39):
Yeah, Like.

Speaker 5 (02:36:41):
Most feed the ball to you because you have to produce.
I gotta validate the draft picks, no doubt exactly. All Right,
We got more one Moore secent to go here on
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Speaker 5 (02:37:04):
How are we feeling about these rockets. I know what, look, man,
I just I get nervous. So more and more I
see Steve Kerr's stupid face, I get I get a
little nervous.

Speaker 1 (02:37:13):
Yeah, well, when with that face, you have to listen
to the voice too, and that'll drive you nuts too.

Speaker 6 (02:37:18):
If you want preaching, yeah, he'll preach for you.

Speaker 1 (02:37:21):
If you want to know his opinion, even if you
don't ask for it, he'll tell you. I can tell
you that. I I uh, normally a play in game,
I think the two seed in a playing game, we're
kicking that team's ass. That's how That's the way i'd feel, right, Gordy. Yeah,
but Steph Curry's pretty damn good. I know Draymond's gonna

(02:37:41):
be drive people crazy because that's part of his m
O now. But it's the Jimmy Butler factor that's scary.
What he's done for them for the most part since
he got there, he's he's he's There's almost been a
shift in paradigms because think how close we were to
thinking that Golden State's played was done, they were finished.

(02:38:01):
Bob Myers leaves they I mean, Klay Thompson's playing somewhere
else and here they are again, and they're dangerous, and
they're dangerous to go all the way through. The question
is will they defend the rim and can you contain
those two guys who are both capable of scoring thirty.
I like the Rockets chances. I don't see this as
a short series, Gordon. I don't see it's a four
or five no sweep, and I sure as hell don't

(02:38:23):
see five games. I think it's six or seven. And
maybe it's the part of me because we're here and
we see it. I'm very concerned about Golden State, but
you can't let two guys dominate you. You're gonna have
to keep it at one because one of them is
going to get theirs at least for the majority of
the series. I would think, contest the shots, stay out
of foul trouble. I like the fact that there's a

(02:38:44):
buy in on defense. Give me the Rockets, and I'm saying,
give me the Rockets in seven games.

Speaker 5 (02:38:48):
I just love the toughness of that great brought to
this team. Punch him in the mouth. Draymond Green's gonna
try to do that. So Dylan Brooks, they said, you know,
he had sixteen technical files during the seas. He was asked,
you know, will there be ejections during the series, He said,
I don't know, but I'm not going to get injected ejected.
I'll leave that to somebody else. So Dylan's coming in
with the right mindset. It'll be tough, but I ain't stupid.

Speaker 1 (02:39:11):
And you know what I love too. If you want
to play a scoring, finesse game, we can handle that.
And secondly, if you want to get in a fistfight,
like you said, Emaadoka's glad to entertain you on that one.
And Gordy with this, the question is does a veteran
World championship, you know, resume team, does the moxie of
them over take a young team with a couple veterans.

(02:39:35):
But remember Van Vliet's been a part of this before
in Toronto, So I like the Rockets. I think the
two seed is going to move on in this series
and we won't be talking Golden State after give me
him in seven.

Speaker 5 (02:39:46):
Yeah, for all the young inexperience, we got Fred, we
got Steven Adams playing tons of playoffs.

Speaker 1 (02:39:52):
Play a little bit of player, I mean a little
bit of basketball.

Speaker 5 (02:39:54):
Yeah, lean on those guys, so we will be back Monday,
hopefully talk about one to know start to this series.

Speaker 1 (02:40:01):
As bats exploding against the Padres.

Speaker 5 (02:40:04):
Just don't get swept hashtag don't get swept. We'll talk
about that on Monday. The mat Thomas jo come your brother.
Thanks to be Easter.

Speaker 6 (02:40:11):
Everybody, eat some chocolate