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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Astros GM. Dana Brown joins us here on the Sean
Salisbury Show. Dana, welcome in.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I don't care how you get them, but those ones
like last night, painless clutch home run and then the
new guy Paradus comes in and the walk off.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
What a satisfying night.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Regardless of the lack of explosion, those two runs mattered
and that's all the care. He came up on the
right side of the scoreboard. You got to love those nights.
They never get old.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Absolutely. You know, he got a good, good outing by Framburg,
outstanding eight innings and nice team building, home runs, shown
some power for the victory, and you know we beat
a pretty good team, so you know, the boys got
after it last night. A win is a win.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And we got to keep it roll up, hey, and
sometimes Dana win like that. You know, I believe that
there's ten twelve maybe in baseball longer in football three
or four moments, and in baseball maybe there's twenty five
of them. We say that was a turnaround, or you
point back to certain games and even though it wasn't
a fifteen run lowout, those games can maybe not game
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to game momentum, but there's a confidence that goes with
winning like that, they can actually springboard your team.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You agree or disagree?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, I agree. I mean for many of our listeners
who love sports, you know, when you have a win
like that, you know, it just it really energizes the team,
you know. And just to watch the boys celebrate at
home plate last night after Perettas, you know, who's been
really good for us. You know, Perettis has been really
good defensively. You know, he's got over an eight hundred ops.
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I mean, the guy's been a really good player. And
so to just watch the guys rally around home plate
after that type of win, I mean, it is a joke.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Dana.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Has he exceeded your expectations so far? He's been really good.
Has he exceeded Did you expect? I mean, did you
expect this already from him?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah? You know what I expected. I expected a guy
that would come in and you know, play a really
solid third base and uh, you know, drive some balls
out of the ball park because of his bats, his
bat match as well with the Crawford boxes and so, uh,
you know, I really I'm really excited about what he's doing.
And so I hope he continues to do that, which
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I really silly will because he's that type of guy
that sees a lot of pitches. I mean, he's kind
of annoying the pitch too, because, uh, you know, he
takes a lot of pitches, he takes close pitches that
are balls, and he really has good at that. So, uh,
you know, we think he's got a chance of really
continuing that and having a good successful year for us.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Dana.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
We got Dana Brown Astro's gym for his weekly visit
here on Sports Talk seven ninety. We obviously have seen
Hunter Brown, who's pitching Cy Young level, uh fromber last night,
who is a inning zeter and when he's on, there's
no better left hander in baseball.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
He's that good. And I'm not telling anything you don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
And then Renelle Blanco to do what he did the
other night looked like last year when he was spectacular.
That front part of your starting rotation, the whole rotation.
With that front, you can put that against anybody. Performances
like that. You keep preaching pitching. You get pitching like that,
you're gonna it's good. It's gonna be tough on a
lot of opposing batters.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, and just think. You know, our backs are starting
to heat up, and when you get that type of pitching,
you know, we want to run off you know, five seven,
ten in a row. That I mean, that's the key.
You know, the key is to continue to stay over
five hundred and then get those big runs like five,
seven and ten in a row, and that really puts
the team in a good spot, you know, all down
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the stretch. So, like I said, the boys are heating
up with the bats, and so you know it's it's
time to have a fun ride right now.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
What are you seeing from your team that tells you
they're heating up and that they're gonna sustain this?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, I mean, you know, just starting with Jeremy Pinya,
you know, he's been really good at the top of
the order. Peretis right behind him. You know, Walker has
been a lot better of late, you know, hitting like
almost three hundred over his glass nine games, so he's
starting to heat up. Of course, you know, Diaz just
had that ten game Hitch Street snack last night. You know,
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so the guys are really starting to heat up. And
we've done a lot of this, you know, with with
Joda on uh you know, on the I out, So
you know, we're hoping to get him back sometime soon,
within the next five days, and so that would be great. Uh,
but look, the guys are starting to heat up. I
like the way that the offense is trending, you know,
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and and the defense has been good all year and
the pitching has been carrying this. So uh, this is
a good team, make no mistake about it.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Hey, is there any you said in the next five
days for Jordan? Is there anything that would slow that down?
Or should we expect, you know, by the end of
the weekend that we got him early next week.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Well, you know, the thing is, he's just now starting
to you know, swing the bat, and so he feels
pretty good and that's a good sign. And so once
these guys start to swing, when they have these type
of hand injuries, once they start to swing, you know,
it's it's it all. It's all about how you feel
the next day. And so today we'll know more than
we knew yesterday. And so when he gets in there,
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we'll you know, see how he feels, and we'll know
a lot more. But he's coming along nicely, Dana.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So this is just basically now with this is just
a threshold of pain thing, how much he can handle.
He communicates with the training staff, communicates with you guys,
and when he feels set and ready to go handling
that pain or however it is that that that's when
we see him go.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, No, I don't I don't even say that it's pain.
I just think it's it's it's more of a comfort thing.
I think he's it's you know, the pain has start
is going away. Now it's more Yeah, so now it's
more of a it's more of a comfort thing. And
how do you feel And you know sometimes psychologically you've
been around sports psychologically got you know, you got to
really feel it. You know, once that thing starts to
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feel good, just say okay, I'm ready to go. So
I think he's getting there, and you know, hope he's
closing in on hopefully getting here within that next friday.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
We're very very optimistic.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Ass GM Dana Brown for his weekly visit. Dana, I
don't want to discuss the stuff off the field because
we know and that's being taken care of and somebody
can't discuss when the laws looking into it. But on
the field, well, what did you see in Lance's performance
that you know, I know it's a second start and
all the nerves that go into but what did you
see in his performance pitching wise that either was a
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concern or that you say, he's going to be okay.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah, I think he's going to be okay. I think
the big thing was the command. You know, he didn't
have command of his stuff. And you know, going back
to my scouting days, we would always say the guy's
second start is always the toughest because you know, you're
spending so much energy in that first start, particularly Lance
when he came back and he had you pitched me
two years two years plus, and you know, you go,
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you pour it all in in that first start, and
then that second start. You know, sometimes you just don't
your bodies just don't recover as well. And I think,
you know, with him coming back, I think I'm really
looking forward to his next start. That second starts usually
always tough, you know, because you pour so much into
the first one.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
And his focus is still the part on the field
right because of that all he's overcome and the emotion
that must be raw from him on the field. Data
You've talked about it that was a long time coming.
I mean, shouldn't we have expected for it to be
a little bit difficult to get going the way he
wanted It? Isn't that human nature with all the baseball
you've watched and covered and led over the years.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Look, you know, regardless of who it is, you know
you could have something young award winners. You know that
these you know, these guys come back about, you know,
when they have it pitched in a while, it's really difficult.
I mean, you're especially when you're facing good teams. I mean,
teams are kind of the teams are coming after the Astros,
you know, because we've been really good for a long time.
And look, I just think Lance is he's going to
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be all right. You know, I talked to him. His
head's in a good space. Uh. You know, we talked
a little bit last night after the game. I'm looking
forward to his next start. I mean, I'm really feel confident.
This guy worked his tail off. You know. I think
you know, when you when you go through these long stretches,
you know they could be really difficult. And you know,
Lance has had a lot of success here in this organization,
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has done a lot of good things here and so
you know, we we we have to give guys a runway,
you know, just to see, you know, what they could
do when they're coming back. And I think, you know,
I feel really confident, you know that he's going to
be okay, and so you know, it's got to get
the command right. You know, you can't walk guys in
the big leagues because the walks were hurt, you know,
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and so uh, stuff wise, I think, you know, stuff
was better at first outing, not as good as second outing.
So you know, if the stuff backs up and the
command's not there, it's gonna be a little bit more difficult.
But I think he's gonna be fine. I'm looking forward
to his next start.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Hey, Dan, I had an interesting pitching conversation with Steve
Sparks on Monday on the show, and we are talking
about Lance and you know, he's got an an time
when spin rate is so important and everybody wants that right,
He's got so much spin and so much stuff on
his ball. You know, he was talking about that sweep
or that breaks twenty four to twenty five inches, whatever
it is. It's Steven mentioned, is there a possibility that
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it's sometimes you got to back the spin off because
it's you know, getting were their non competitive pitches outside
the strikes, and so there are competitive swing and missus
which he's really good at as well. Did is there
ever a point in time where we say, yeah, a
little too much spin, we got to back off that
kind of like a golfer near a green.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, I would say I would. I would addressed it
a little bit differently. I would say, just started in
a different location. So if it's sweeping that far, you know,
started more on the inner half, right, maybe it's you know,
it sweeps across the plate because you never want to
back off, you know, because the hitters want you to
back off, right they you know, they were looking for
you to They're looking for you to take the foot
off the gas. But ultimately, I think if you, you know,
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keep the spin started in a different location, break across
the plate, outer half of the plate, whatever you have
to do, I think that's a better way of addressing
it and so that your stuff doesn't back up.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Have you ever in this in this period, since you've
been here data with Lance rehabing and then after that
start and what went on, have you ever looked at
him and wondered if he was still confident. Has that
ever entered your mind?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
No, not at all. This guy's a gamer. As I
said before, he's done a lot of good things. I mean,
I think people do realize that this guy's had a
really good career here. He knows that he's really good.
I think he feels like he's dialed in and you
know it's just a matter of you know, commanding your
stuff and making sure you're you know, ninety two to
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ninety four with that good sweeper and you know, the
good spider and good changeups. So I think Lance is very,
very confident. I think you know, when you've had the
success that he's had here, you know, you realize, like, look,
this guy, this guy's locked in. Like I said, I
can't wait for his next start. I'm really looking forward.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, I anticipate. I can't wait either.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
A couple more minutes with Dana Brown asks gym Dana
Force Whitley got an inning in look for struck out
a couple uh update on him and how you feeling
about him right now?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah, I think Forrest is getting locked in. He's uh,
you know, he's excited because he had that you know
success there right before he reinjuces me. You know, I
think he's locked in. You know, he he pitched over there,
he did well, you know, sugar in and so I
think he's locked in. Hopefully we'll get him back, you know,
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sometime next week early or the next range. So, but
you know, I'm excited about Forrest because you know, he's
showing that he's ready to pitch at the big league level.
He's going to strike guys out. The fastball has been
up to ninety eight, and you know, he's looking like
he's ready to turn the corner on. So health is
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a big part of it, and you know he's he's
showing a lot better right now.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Can we get a scouting report? You got such a
great specialty on this talent of Gordon. At his start tonight,
what we can expect to see from him?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, I would expect that you're gonna get, you know,
a competitive left handed starter who's going to touch ninety three,
you know, and so a pretty good breaking ball and
attack his own and you know, I think he'll be
he'll be locked in tonight. You know, he's he's he's
really fired up about getting his start tonight, and so
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I'm looking for the good things tonight, and I know
he's gonna get after it, so I'm pumped up.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I'm gonna let you go with this.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
And I don't want to talk about the reasons why
or how he got back in. I just want to
talk about the baseball player, because you're the perfect guy
to ask when you were growing up and when you
were watching him and watching Pete Rose play, what'd you
think about him as a player? Dan, I always I've
never asked you about Pete is the player. What was
your feelings about him when he played?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Listen, Pete Rose was one of the reasons why I
started going on head first, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
In the fact, I said the same thing today.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, I was a bass dealer, you know, back in
my days of playing, and so I was the head
first slide and you know Pete Rose, you know, he
did a lot of that for a lot of the
kids in the neighborhood that I grew up in. And
so you know Pete Rose, just watching him play to
switch hitter, you know, over four thousand hits. You know,
he's some kind of special player. So you know, I
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enjoyed watching Pete play as a kid.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You know what's interesting about Danny mentioned the forty two
hundred plus hits. There's no way anybody sniffed. That's twenty
plus years of averaging two hundred plus hits a year.
How does anybody ever touch that in this day and
age with specialization.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, I think they get the four thousand. I mean,
you got to you gotta get two hundred, You gotta
get two hundred and fifty hits for seventeen years or
something like that, or maybe eighteen years. But uh, yeah,
I think that's one of those records, you know, not
quite Kyle Ripkins, but it's one of those that it's
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going to be really, really difficult to break.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
And so at this time last year we're having this conversation,
team was pushing towards twelve and twenty four. You're over
five hundred. While you're not feeling perfect about it, you
got to feel really good about at least to start
in fighting through some injuries and new guys and changes.
Pretty good start to the forty plus games you've already
started on, Dana.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, forty one games in one game over, you know,
twenty one and twenty just two games, two games back,
and I think the guys are pretty much locked in
and that the bats are starting to heat up. And
I've always said once these bats heat up, you'll start
seeing some wins come across that board. And so I
think we're right at the brink of really turning this
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thing around and making a good run for it and
getting some cushion over five hundred and so that's what
I'm looking for to see what from the boys, And
you know, I'm locked in.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
It's gonna be a hell of a watch this next week.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
And got a young one out there, and then mccullor's
next start and getting forced whittley back up lot and
waiting on your don can't wait data. Thanks so much,
and congrats on the win last night, and we'll talk
to you next week, all.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Right, appreciate you having me on. Let's go ask your fans.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
There you go, that's dand Brown. We'll come back and discuss.
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