Astros Win Series Over Cubs, Rockets Contract Extensions, & Steve Sparks Weekly Segment

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salisbury. Oh, very Salisbury Houston.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury to usc Troup's longtime
friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Here's the one up ground ball toward the middle.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Mauricio Dubon playing there, the short stuff just to the left.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Of second base. He throws out Tucker and that's the
third out of the end, the one oh.

Speaker 5 (00:36):
And that's in high in the air to the left,
over toward the corner, over his hat on the warning
track at the wall looking up see Atlanta d of
Atlantris Crawford boxes hot al two May with a two
run homer and the Astros lead two to.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
H thing l two as thirteen. He's a time the two.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
Playing in a mess overpowered them with a ninety nine
mile r ball and down Gohost Watson side retired Brian
Aprayu six up, six down, complete two innings of relief
for the first time in nearly two years.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
They could have brought Babooth.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
The pitch is popped up first base side foul ground
das over by the Astros dugout as a.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Play, makes the catch and fat is the ball game.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
The Houston Astros take two out of three from the
Chicago Cubs wedding today, two to nothing. Jose Altuve the
big swing, and the Astros arms did the rest.

Speaker 6 (01:37):
Indeed they did, Robert Ford in indeed that is true,
cho aspata, And with that we say away we go
in Good morning here on the Sean Salisbury Show Sports
Talk seven ninety. You just heard Robert Ford give you
the details of how yesterday at dyke In Park went
Sean six games, five of them in the correct column.

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And Theros now with an off day before you start
up six games on the road, first three against the
Rockies in Colorado and then the end of the week
in your old neck of the woods against the defending
world champs.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Absolutely be this should be an opportunity. Well, they should
go dominate Colorado. Right, we'll get to that as the
week wears on July fourth week, mind you, so sure
a lot of people are getting on their vacations and
doing their thing. Good morning, and I hope you got all.
They're starting to pop the fireworks already. I heard it
last night. A little premature, right, just just a tad early.

(02:36):
Save those dogs, let them have a little reskp say yeah,
one night, I understand, but don't make it seven right. Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:45):
Man?

Speaker 1 (02:45):
It was a good, good weekend. They take care of
another series and pitching has been lights out other than
the aberration, which I'm sure we'll get into Saturday, which
begs the question, who what are we going to get
in this city? Getter? What is he going to get
the colors out of his game? Where's it going? I'm
looking at the future now, Just what happens Saturday? What's

(03:06):
going on? Because unfortunately for he and Gusta, it was
a rough Saturday, you know what I'm saying. But you
know it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. I guess it
happened to happen. When it happens to a guy who's
been hurt and has shown flashes of brilliance in the
ups and downs, I think it begs the question where
do you go from here? Right? And it does, so
we'll get into that. But you know you're gonna have

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those in the Cubs are a good team. They took
advantage of it and a couple of huge innings and
on Saturday, but bounce back and from Weer just mows
him down, man, he just did did his thing with
great help from the bullpen, and the back ended their
did their gig and Al two ve got the clutch
hit again over and weren't overly explosive offensively on Sunday,
but they got the key hit when needed, and a

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pitching when you don't give up much or any, you
don't lose, and it doesn't matter if you score one.
When you don't give up any. It looks like you
beat him seventeen to one. But it was other than
the trip up on saturd which I'm sure a lot
of people will end up focusing on. The good stuff
is is that they're what fifty and thirty four or
something right on the number. You just got ready four

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right there. It's it's pretty spectacular the way that they're playing.
And and you know, go and dominate the next few
weeks and get yourself into the All Star break feeling
comfortable and hopefully closer to health.

Speaker 8 (04:22):
Man.

Speaker 6 (04:23):
Now, I think both of those things are important details.
I mean, you know, we have Dana Brown on every
single Sunday for Astro launch with Robert Ford, and he
went through some of those things. We'll get to those,
but I mean you know the good before we get
to like you said, the Saturday is, I mean, first
and foremost, I think offensively the good Cam Smith. He's

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not afraid man, I mean he It's one of those
now where I think that he believed that he could.
Now he knows that he can. And Friday night it
was all right, you guys trade me.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
I get it.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
And I thought that was pretty interesting from Dana Brown
yesterday where they revisited the trade and he straight up said,
he goes. We told them if he's not in this deal,
we're not making this deal.

Speaker 7 (05:09):
Right.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Sorry about that. I got to turn my mic on.
I believe the only reason they ended up making the
deal is because that the closing part of that deal
was it's him or we don't do this. I don't
see how judging from the name before they even came here,
the names involved it was Nesky and what uh and
and perettis they and then you Cam wasn't the throw in.

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Cam was d piece for them to do. And you
can see Go rolls right through spring training kicks but
comes in here and has gotten better the whole time.
Even when he went through the lull early like young
players do, he was remember the question I asked when
we talked about I said, how will he handle failure
and success? That that's what will judge me, not when
he goes over for how he handles it, because he'll

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go through those where he's sit in one ninety seven,
and he'll go through where he's had a couple of
games where he's good, and then somewhere he feels overwhelmed
and you know, adjusting to right field and all that
and at the plate. But they saw something and he
proved that and he earned that right because the way
he played in the spring, he just dominated and he
gave him as I say, he made it impossible for
them not to keep him if impossible exists, but about

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as impossible as it can for a young prospect trying
to get a shot at a major league level. Early,
he did everything possible to say there's no way you
can send me down. And then when they kept him
up here through the struggles, he just fought through it
and kept going. And now you got him where you
trust him in the four hole, you know what I'm saying.
So it's he's different, and you could say people could

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say what everything want. I know, it's young and in
infancy his career, but you can see it with the
naked eye. It's not hard. And then you talk about
all the deep stuff that's scouting and the manager and
all the people who do their due diligence and part
of this trade to get him. What makes him special,
that's for them to decide, because they see him every day,
how he prepares and does this thing. We kind of
see it from a distance, but from a distance it's

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pretty simple to see why. I'm always asking the question why,
and he answers it and has gotten better all year long.
He's a special player, and I'm with him. You don't
get to have Kyle Tucker and a guy who's an
All Star and an MVP candidate. Damn near feels like
when he's healthy every year, you don't get to have him.

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And then turn around and give us, you know, some players,
but without giving us a guy who we expect to
be We got rid of the guy and now going
in and I'm not sure they thought he was going
to be a right fielder, but we got rid of
a guy who's a got ten years of great baseball
left in him. And then you bring in a guy
that you're hoping has that kind of baseball in him. Well,

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what a brilliant move to say, it's either cam Smith
and this deal is not happening. And look what he's
done here, and look with Kyle it's worked. It's not
always that trade works both ways for both teams. At
least are in the infancy of it. And it has
the sands the injury to wizn Esky. But Cam Smith's
a different cat. Dude, he is, and I you know,
for me, I said, there's no way you send him now.

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Let him learn here and see what he's got. It's
like a quarterback that starts as a rookie. I ain't
pulling him out after two bad starts. Now I understand
what happened to Bryce Young after just about seven or
eight it gets overwhelming. Sure, but I'm not pulling a
guy out. You don't. I'm not. You don't get the
bail on me that quickly. Not that they wanted to,
but I'm not letting you off the hook that easy.
You're going to find out what it's like to take,

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you know, punches to the face and see how you
deal with it. I need to know that if I'm
a coacher and a team because if there's fragility in
the personality or the emotional side of it. There's probably
always gonna be I've never met a great player I'm
talking about it came in as a rookie too, there
was fragile personality wise. Never I bet guys who you know,

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all of a sudden were great players and just it
just didn't work out right. But it had zero to
do with how mentally tough they were. They just couldn't
hit a curveball or a quarterback that was just wasn't
accurate or wide receiver that hey, he wasn't afraid of anything.
His hands just weren't as good as the guy next
to him. He wasn't as precise as outrunner. If they're great,
I'm talking about going in you said that guy is
special or a great player. But if they got eliminated

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the great player that I've been around that there's been
great talent that's been eliminated because they weren't emotionally tough.
But I've never seen a great producer or a guy
that you see that that came in, whether he was
a first year guy or ninth yeer guys. My point
that was emotionally and mentally soft they couldn't handle great
success or failure. Now I've met plenty that couldn't handle it,

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that were talented, but that you knew that from beginning
to end. If they were fragile early, they were going
to be fragile late. Does that make it they're all
worried about what everybody else said. If they weren't fragile early,
they weren't going to be fragile late. Some may get
a little chippy at the end of their career because
they want to hang on two extras. I'm talking about
when they're there. I've never played with a good player

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that was a rookie that had a fragile personality that
ended up being a star. I haven't played welle. Now,
somebody outse there may be the outlier and the operation.
I'm sure there is. The guys I've been around, whether
it was college, whether it was playing in the NFL,
whether I was my senior year and a freshman came in,
Like when we had Tim McDonald, the great safety from
the player with the forty years who, by the way,

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should probably be a Hall of Fame or at least close.
Tim McDonald was a couple of years behind us my
class when he came in. Put him in there. There
was nothing fragile about it. I used him because we
could talk about the Marcus sounds like a guy that
maybe not a lot of people talk about, but was
a great player and a great athlete. You knew as
a rookie, as a freshman at SC that he was
different and it didn't matter if he missed a tackle,

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and then he was a I mean, he would hit you,
but it didn't matter. It didn't matter if you bench
him if he missed a tackle. If he missed it, it
didn't matter. He wasn't coming to the sideline worried about
what you were thinking. In fragile, ever, ended up being
a great player in college, ended up being a great
plan in pro I have yet to meet a guy
that was fragile as a rookie or fragile young that
all of a sudden became a tough person. Now some

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may grind through it, but in my life being around
these great players that I've been fortunate enough to watch
do their work, and I think cam Smith, at least
early on, has all those traits that if he fails,
or as success he fails, it isn't going to be
because he's fragile personality wise, it's just not He may
struggle with something else along the way, hopefully it's not

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injuries or anything like that. But the great players I've
been around, you may think they're fragile from a distancer,
you may question them. They don't ever worry about them
questioning themselves or if they can handle getting knocked down.
The great players were tough as a rookie and tough
in their tenth year. And I'm talking about mentally and
emotionally tough. I think this kid's got that. I don't

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care if he strikes out twenty times in a row. Physically,
he may go on and he may try harder and
all that, but I'm talking about I guarantee he ain't
going home sitting there thinking I can't come out of this.
And the other side is if you were fragile early brother,
and you have confidence, and you were fragile, I know
you're trying to fit in. We all have that. But
I'm talking about you know that. What I'm I'm about
that at the slightest adversity, the guy semi wilts, you

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know that guy. I've never seen a guy who had
that fragile personality as a rookie turn into ooh, he
all of a sudden became mister non fragile. It's rare.
It's rare.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
It's that's DNA brother, and that's in that that's in
the bloodstream, and you know a lot of times that's
the saying he's got it. I think in this case
it's he's different.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, and I did. None of us know what it is.
But when you when you do it all and you
get all the players sitting in one side of the
room in any sport that have it. Connor McDavid, you
look at this kid, Cam Smith, Jeremy pill find Jeremy Pania,
go go look at Shay gilgis out whoever it is.
It's you know, there's there's just something different where they

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walk on and you forget, or on the golf course, Tiger,
you forget that they're the age, they are right and
well whatever it isn't just that you can throw it hard.
But that was the case, we'd have a lot of it. Factor.
It factor I think comes from this non tent the
things you can't see very often. I think it's the
intangible stuff that does, whether it's their work they're doing

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the lonely work, working without not worried about that, not
reading press clippings good or bad. Just stay in the
course and not letting anything detour them or take them
on a detour from their training. And if somebody does
push them on a detour, they know how to train,
They know how to get things done on the detour
without without poutin and whining about it. So, yeah, man,
it's the IT factor doesn't usually come from stuff we

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can see. It usually comes from stuff we can't, camp Smith.
All the stuff you can't see is brilliant. All the
stuff you can't see, if you haven't seen it yet,
I think that we're probably then you're not paying attention
because he's just Those guys like him are built different.
And I'm not sure you can buy that in a store, buddy, now,
can't be coached, can't be taught. It's either you got

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it or you don't. It's it's that simple. And camp Smith,
I think we can agree. Hitting two seventy six with
a seven to seventy seven ops, he definitely fits that mold,
all right. Three two one two five seven ninety is
the number to get in on the phone line seven
one three two one, two, five, seven ninety. But coming up,
we are inching closer to the trade deadline and a

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lot of people have their opinions on the ASTROS priority.
I think the priority is clearly defined and we'll talk
about it right here. It is the Sean Salisbury Show
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
This Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
They had a bunch of miss putts with opportunities, but
there was a bunch of they would get he and
Grazerman and Chris Kirk getting Chris Kirk getting after it,
and they all had chances to close it out, but
just you know, a lot of balls just edged the
cup and rolled out and then finally pop Geeter on
their fifth playoff hole. I think it was the par

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five where they both they both breathed in. I think
of the par three is what he wanted. I watched
the whole turn. I can't remember. They've got so many playoffalls.
I think they wanted again on the second time they
went back and played I think fifteen. But yeah, it
was because Max Grazerman came up short and missed his punt.
He rolled by, and then finally Poteater knocked it in.

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But average three thirty four, dude. In the par five
five hundred and fifty eight yards, and Grazerman's not short.
He went three thirty one and he had three thirty
eight or three thirty for a pot Geater averaged almost
three forty off the tee during the entire week in Detroit,
he went driver eight iron to a five hundred and

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sixty yard par five.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
You would think that eight iron would mean that you're
laying up, he said. Now eight iron is me going
for it.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Well, here's what you have to understand about this. Think
about this. You played, you've played with good Your brother's
a good golfer. Yeah, I've played with a lot of
good golfers. At times. I've got enough in me to
you know, you know, reach a par five and when
you smoke a drive and hit it. But I'm talking
about good players that I play with. It are pretty long, right,
Smoke a drive. You're staring with that, especially when it's

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surrounded by trouble. You're staring if you want to get
to a par five and two and somebody five sixty,
good buddy, If you hit it three hundred, you got
to go to sixty, dude. Yeah, so that's probably a
long that's probably three would you're hitting three wood if
you even want to make it, unless you want to
make it a three shot hole, and through two hundred
and sixty yard three wood for a non pro ninety

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seven times out of one hundred you ain't getting there.
And the only other times if you hit a sprinkler
head or that two sixty with a three wood for
mo for well, for a plus ten handicap, he's never
he's never getting there unless it's down wind, downhill. But
on that course, most normal ones are you you got
to smoke a par three to get it somewhere, so
you can hit a little flip lob wedge in it's

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half lobwedds, you get it close. But if you're fortunate
it's downwind, you hate your best drive of the day
and you hit a three wood just you know, flush
right right. And those I talk about good players that
we play it like a three handicap. He ain't hitting
five iron from two sixty eight. Okay, this dude, they
smoke it. He's carrying. They're going drive for eight iron.

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That's not a par five. They mean, what do we
got to do? Lengthen them? The seven hundred yards it's
it's amazing. I know they've been their clubs with you know,
different angles and lofts and lies than we do. I
get it. My eight iron is supposed to go. What
a buck sixty five and their eight iron is supposed
to go. I saw. I watched the Grazerman hit a
two hundred and ten yard eight iron yesterday. Now it
can be down, it doesn't matter when it is. Ay

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come back and pot Eaters hitting one fifty nine nine iron,
So the change is weird, but due you're averaging three
thirty fourth to te and you got to hit fairways
for it, I believe count just like you would in
a long drive contest. And then did a pumping eight
iron in there when most of the rest of the
world's hitting three iron and most and good golfers have

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to think twice about it. Good good players. So it's
pretty impressive man. And it's one thing five iron and
eight iron for those guys. It's a world of difference
when you got those two different clubs in your hand
right where you expect to hit it. It was fun
to watch the Great Cup competition. It's got to be
harder on the dads and the moms are sitting there
watching with every putt and good on that the last
two guys were with Grazermen and pot Geter both would

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have been there if he was their first win on
the PGA Tour, and pot Geter got his. And that
was like four or five times in the last year
that Grazerman's finished in second, but hanging around. One of
these times they'll break through.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
It was.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
It was a fun watch and they finally pot Geter
finally made a putt. Well, it's just it's it's good
to get that experience. And then he had to win
in those situations right, applies to team sports too well.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
And that's what is so great about golf too, is
that immediately after you can get you know, whoever lost,
Like I mean, good on Chris Kirk too, where he loses,
he's out of the playoff.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Too seconds, within thirty seconds he was doing an interview.
Yeah yeah, good, oh yeah, because he he had a
chance twice on short puts and couldn't make them to
put it away. But his swing is about as pretty
as you'll ever see.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
Got some got some good young golfers out there, do
we have and we got to see it yesterday. So
a couple of weeks away from the British Open too,
so me and you will get morning golf where that Thursday,
me and Gordy will be at SEC media days. But
then that Friday, sure as you're born, wake.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Up and they're they're in the they're in the middle
of a round, which is I do too. I know
we always when I was playing, we always we'd get
up early, you know, before football practice, training camp, and
we get up early for the British Open and you'd
be saiding, they're getting have breakfast. I would have wake
up a little early, and it's it's on your dad.
They're already going, right, okay, this is cool. So at
that point, yeah, pretty awesome. So yeah, it's some good golf.

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But we do have some good young players, dude. These
teenagers and these twenty year olds and twenty five now
experience matters, but some of them are so naive to
the to the pressure of it. They're thinking, I'm twenty
I'm gonna win fifty. We talked about Marino, I'm gonna
win thirty more times on tour. So they probably throw
caution to the win a lot of times because they
I mean, they're firing they're short sided them, so they're

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firing it pins that you're like, dude, and they're twenty,
so they did the fear when you hit it three
forty is kind of taken out and man of pie,
if this kid continues to get back, imagine this at
twenty your winning turns hitting three forty. How good are
you gonna be when you actually know how to play?
You know what I mean? Yeah, So it's uh, it's impressive.
And they a lot of times these young players don't

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have any idea that they're supposed to be pressure and
they sit back and let it rip. Golf some pretty
good shape. Even though we don't have the Tiger Woods effect,
we sure as hell got some good players. Man, they
can smoke it that we do.

Speaker 6 (20:27):
And we saw that yesterday up in Detroit the Rocket Classics.
So Aldrich Pottkeater your winner.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
And great, great, they're gonna enjoy saying his name over
the next twenty years. I kind of got I think
they liked. I think they like saying both his first
and last year. Oh you know, I'll look at you know,
Chris Kirk. And they liked when they say, oh, shawflet's
playing great golf. Scheffler or Scottie. They refer to him
by his first name, but about a million times yesterday,
Aldrich Pottkey. They couldn't wait to say his day. Andrew

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cattle On, Andrew cattle On.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
It almost kind of felt like went out of his
way because he was in for nance and it was
every single time pot Gater pott Geter.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Oh yeah, he loved saying his name. It's almost kind
of like not a he or not a there he is,
it's a pot Geter. I mean they it was like
it felt like a right of passage.

Speaker 9 (21:11):
Man.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
This name. It's going to be a great name from
South Africa.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
It's almost a name like you would hear for a
guy playing out of like I don't know, a seat
in hall or somewhere in the in the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Ye, Jonas pott Geter, Yeah right, Aldrick pott Geater. He's
like he's like a nineteen year old that came over
and is like like Sibonis, right, he's a really good player.
Oh my gosh, this kid when he's and he's like
nineteen playing was dominating the Euros right right, And he
comes over here and they're like, oh, this guy was
picked fourth in the draft. Guy's a monster talent and

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his name was Aldrick pott Geeter. Yeah, power forward, Aldric
pot Geter. Yeah, I can see that pot Geter for three.
I could totally see Andrew Cattle. And we've gotten to
know Andrew cattalong quite a bit around here. I mean,
he was on almost every single Texans game last year
and then he called the what was it Milo's using

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put back off the glass or the inbound He's a
he's a you got a good, good feature. It looks
like they're trying to groom him to take over for
because because when Nance isn't doing it, and when he
takes a little time off on on events that maybe
we don't consider bigger events. Although the guy won yesterday
is two million dollars rich, it's a big event because
of FedEx Cup points and it's a win on tour.

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It's I think Catalan feels like he's the heir apparent
whenever Jim decides it. He's ready to quit doing golf
in football because we know he's done doing the NC
two A tournament. So but Jim still got along round
ahead of him. But it's nice that Jim gets to
take some weekends off and Catalan does a nice job.
They got a good crew. Our golf crews are pretty good.
I think Dottie Pepper, you know, when they talk about

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female broadcasters, forget talking about female or male. She's and
I know it's golf, and they don't spend a lot
of time when they're when you're foot soldiers on the
golf course, they give insight and give you I think
Dottie Pepper for years, she's as good as the guys are.
Forget just say comparing her well, she as good as
this woman when it comes to just good. I mean,
she's understated, gives you great insight on it because she

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was the hell of a player, gives you great insight
without over talking, and is fan and her vibe with
the with the guys on the on the tour, on
the broadcast group, I think she's really good. Nobody talks
about her, maybe because it's she doesn't get him get
paid by the word doing play by play or color
and she's but I'm just telling you right now, you
could feel quite comfortable if nance talked to her for

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two hours about and they're going. You'll learn a lot
listening to Dottie pepperdew golf so good on her. I
just like the the vibe of it when they're when
they're going good and they're giving each other a hard
time and Novolo's in there talking. I do. I like it.
And I think they're I think they're pretty loaded. And
I think Trevor Immoman's opinionated, got a little bit of
nick foul and him he's not afraid to criticize, you
know what I'm saying, which is good.

Speaker 6 (23:49):
Yeah, I mean he he's no brand of shambly. Shambly
is the guy that just lets it go. But no,
Dottie does a great job.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
And then I believes and been in plenty arguments with
TG Tour players. It's it's almost on a daily weekly basis,
like it's he wears it as a badge of honor.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
Oh yeah, no, he absolutely does if somebody's upset with him.
And then I guess was it Coltonnast cult knows.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Sorry, Now he's the funny guy.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
He's the now the David Faride on the CBS crew,
and he was yesterday they were talking about that. I
think it was the fifth playoff hole where he was like, hey, guys,
this keeps going. I think I'm gonna switch spots with
you because the feed are starting to hurt you.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
He told that the catalogt he goes, hey did they
go one more playoff? Hole? My feet are hurting. We'll
switch and see, so we're switching holds, right, you can
call from the course. I'll be follow right, you follow.
But he's got some good one liners like, oh boy,
he's gonna need a he gonna he's gonna have to
hit as far as he did the Hole before a
little bit short. I mean, just he's got some really

(24:46):
clever one liners. It's a good group man, and Dottie
Pepper is really good. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
Now they they've definitely been able to keep the continuity
over there. I mean even you know when they moved
on from Peter Costas and then I'm trying to remember
it to the Cord Yeah Gary McCord, Yeah, yeah, he
was always great too. So no, it's it's definitely a
fun watch for sure. And a couple of weeks away,
like I said, from the British Open, let's get back
to the Astros because the trade deadline rumors are flying

(25:12):
and they are fast and furious, and some of them
makes sense.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Some of them just really don't. We'll talk about it
right here.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
It is a Sean Salisbury show on a Monday Sports
Talk seven ninety. The seven ninety listener line in the
six o'clock hour is brought to you by one eight
hundred car cash and it will definitely not happen. Now,
that was the thing that cracked me up the most.
Sean is everybody with his opting out, Oh, it sets
up for him to make a return to Houston. I said, stop.

(25:39):
They had the opportunity two years ago, supposedly had the meeting,
and I think, if I'm not mistaken, at that point,
emy Udoka said, yeah, not for me.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Why would you bring him back here? I mean why
once he left, what would what would bring him back here? See,
you can't win a championship pretty much, no disrespect to
the guy who's been a hell of a player. He's
going to the Hall of Fame, got an MVP. But
let's the guy doesn't win titles. He doesn't bring out
the best in his teammates. He just doesn't. That doesn't
mean he's not a good player, and he's not a
passing savant and got good basketball like you. He's a

(26:10):
great scorer, and there's no doubt, but some guys we
talked about that in factor, some guys don't make well.
He may be better, he doesn't make everybody around him better.
There's nothing you could have done that said, unless they
were going to give him away. You say bring him here,
but I'm not sure it would have been good for
this team or for young players.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Eye.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
While he's a talented player, special talent, he does not
make your teammates better. He just doesn't. So An you
bring him here. If you want to bring him here,
go ahead, then assure yourself you're not winning a championship
for whatever. Oil Sewan, you don't think adding him with
Durant And you know, I'm just saying this current team,
sure it's not even in question, but just saying hyperbolic obviously,

(26:51):
And Shan Goon and Amen Tims, you don't think they're No,
I actually don't. I actually think Fred van Vliet's better
at that position for this team. Why distributor and well
Harden can do it all. There's just a different feel
about what a real teammate is. Does that make sense?
And hard and special talent, but he wasn't special at
elevating everybody around him. No, he is. Thank you. Just

(27:14):
to understand this, in my opinion, there's guys like that
that are so talented. James Harden as a star. Now
he may go to a team, be the seventh man
and win an NBA title. James Harden, when he is
the guy that's going to carry you, will not win
an NBA title as the star of a team. He
just won't. You could stick him. In a matter of fact,

(27:35):
I'd be willing to bet you any amount of money
you want stick him in Oklahoma City right now for
next year. They will not win the championship. They'll get worse. Well,
he'll get bet because he's a good player and he
can score. He can like we talk about Kevin Durant.
He can fall out of bed and score twenty eight
thirty hard and can he can? Is that gifted? But
just because you're that gifted doesn't mean you make everybody better.

(27:57):
They go there, they're not one of the title too.
And I'm just telling you they're not. And if they can't.
If he came here, I believe it would have slowed
down the process of getting to where they want to go.
HiT's a reason why they didn't do it and after
he left. Sometimes you just got to say, listen, there's
been a good run. No, no grudge, not for us.
I remember that's exactly right somewhere else. But I'm just

(28:17):
going by history. We want to talk about back of cards.
There's two things that are true. He'll score and you
won't win a ring. I mean, in history tells you that.
And I'm only going what I know, and I mean,
I'm this ain't made up stuff. He can score, he's
a great offensive player. You're not going to win a title,

(28:39):
and he's got no athing to show for it. And
you want me to name the teams he's been on
or should we leave that one alone? No, I think
we can look at it.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
Okay, a pretty good idea, right The basketball card is
is easy to find, but Google in the meantime will
definitely how much you.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Want, how much you want to bet the Clippers aren't
winning the NBA Championship next year.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
I don't have any argument, because I mean, I've never
looked at them, and hey.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
No, disrespect a lot of great players there. I can
say the same thing about quarterbacks. You can. You can
go through right now and we could have over the
course of time said it before, I never felt, you know,
as much as his talent was like, he was a
talented guy, and I like him. I think he's funny
as hell. When Jay Cutler was the guy like in
Denver and went to Chicago, you knew you could, Oh, man,
they're gonna they've got this throat. You're never winning one.

(29:21):
There's something missing from talented is all get out smart,
smart ass, rip it, smoke a cigarette and throw a
touchdown pass. No doubt you weren't winning one. And there's
things that you can look at the current guys and
go through. Man, that guy's a good play. He's not
winning one. Well, that's a fact. And as good as
Cousins has been numbers one, he's not winning one. It's

(29:41):
just not gonna happen as a starter. So there's certain
guys around the league that you just kind of know
that they're really good put up numbers, but aren't. And
Hardens that guy win an MVP, but he'll leave the
league unless he gets one as a backup or late
in his career as a star. He will leave the
NBA without a ring on his finger, at least an
Nbahampionship ring.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
Well, there's not a lot of people who disagree with you,
and the Rockets obviously like the way that they are
going where you bring back Jabari Smith Junior, rumors that
they could bring in Dorry and Finney Smith, who could
be somebody else that could be a good bench option
for you, especially when you factor in that Jabbari and
or Tari Eastern are gonna be kicked into the starting five.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Absolutely, and so you got a good thing going here.
Alls you're trying to do is add to it, not
disrupt it. And every time I watch them make another move,
I start to trust that they get it. And I
mean I've always trusted, but even more so that not
only do they get it, but they're with Udoka and
with rafel Stone and the direction there's a page. I

(30:42):
think they probably challenge each other, which is a good thing.
They're not all sitting on the same page all the time.
You got to be able to battle over those things
what's best for the team. I like that when you
have guys like that. But when they get right down
to it, they have roles defined now, and I think
in the past we weren't sure. At times in the
distant past that roles weren't defined but you bring in
the right GM, you got the right cut, and I

(31:03):
thought Darryl Moorey did a really good job and Tad
but they had some great they did, but unfortunately some
of the play on the court and how you had
to do it and trying to go get stars didn't
work out so with that, but they've got it back
to it now and I feel like they've got roles
defined and they're making decisions, and their decisions are all
based on what gives us the best chance to win,
not having to kiss some stars ass because he's been

(31:24):
in the city for a while and I like that. Now.

Speaker 6 (31:27):
It's definitely a plan being put to use over there
with the Rockets, and it's going to be interesting to
see if the plan continues to evolve for them, which
does seem like that is the case. But Rogers, do
you want to get in on the Astros? Definitely do
want to get into some of that discussion, because we
saw something over the weekend that I think tells you
a lot of what to expect from this team. We'll

(31:49):
discuss that here. It is a Sean Salisbury Show on
a Monday Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
The Sean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 9 (31:58):
And it to know No.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Now, you know.

Speaker 6 (32:03):
There's a report out there from Bob Nightingale that Cedric
Mullins of the Orioles is somebody at the Astros could
possibly target left handed hitter, as we've heard Dana Brown
talk about left handed bat outfield too, So that could
fit another need for you left field, is what it
seems like if they brought him here. But that's to

(32:24):
your point where I'm getting to, because I don't need
a left fielder.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
And you don't need a center fielder right now either work.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
You don't need a right fielder either, So that's where
I mean. I think if nothing else, it would be
a bench move. But you know, to your point, I mean,
I've said it numerous times about hose A l two
va astecond base. I just I don't trust him defensively
there to believe that that is the best lineup that
you can put out there. And I mean it seems

(32:54):
like at least at times that Joe A. Spotta feels
the same way. But Katie Bill, one of our brings
up a good point here is he throws this out
to me yesterday. Imagine this lineup with just Alvarez back
Painia leading off, Peretis l twov out and left, and
Alvarez as the DH Smith and Wright ds catching walk

(33:16):
her over at first and then eight and nine. This
gets me a little excited Myers and center with as
well as he swung the bat, even if he cools
off a little bit, he's still performed above what you
expected out of him this year, and in Dubon at
second base, that's a solid one through nine that I
really do feel I can make a run.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Can you survive a season with al two v playing
average second base?

Speaker 6 (33:37):
If he plays average, then yes, But I just don't
believe that he can play average second base.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
I think he's playing below average second base. I think
I think that he definitely has the propensity to do that. Yes,
I do. Okay, so let me give you a lineup
that I thinks that may be better. This allows me
to utilize Dubon wherever I can put the Hall of
Fame if you want, If if Mullins becomes a factor,
let's just just for the hell of it. He's a
good player. Baltimore just hit this was Nobody saw this

(34:04):
coming for the Orioles this year. No nobody. Now the
question in Baltimore. Are you going to sell or you're
gonna you got too many good young players? Consider it
the aberration. And let's the if I if I was,
you know, I'm not. They're not looking for my advice.
But you ain't. You ain't starting to jump ship with
that great young town on that team. Now, Mullins, I get,
but you know the holidays and the you know from

(34:26):
the catchers, I mean you're not. They've got three or
four players that got dire I mean, well even more
than that. They're young. They all look alike, all those
they look like they just walked off Tennessee and Vanderbilt campuses, right,
But they're loaded. So let me ask this lineup. What
about Paneline Novitch short hitting, you know, Paradus number two

(34:48):
or whoever paratus to alt V. I don't care how
you do that. But al Twov's at second. Put him
in his position. He's going to get inducted in the
Hall of Fame at just just hear me out, Dubon.
You're still using all over regardless of the batting. So
in the three hole you got al two, they playing
second base. Jordan comes back in Dhent and then you
have the walker Yainer Diaz somewhere in that range five

(35:11):
to six. Cam Smith right, so you got your right
Jake Myers so rightfield, left field. However, they're going to
work the lineup. What if I told you you put
Mullins in left field and al two A at second,
That lineup's better than the one you gave me, especially
when you add another left handed bat to it. Well.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
I mean, and Mullins is probably going to be traded
by Baltimore because he is a free agent next year.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
So I see that move there. Just Baltimore is not
going to tear that thing apart. There's too many plays.

Speaker 6 (35:38):
Yeah, you're not going to see Adlie Rutchman or anybody
traded away like that's that's.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Not realizing because if you get rid of them, you
got to go get young players dis like them.

Speaker 6 (35:45):
But another guy that I mentioned, and I mean it's
been pushed back on a little bit, but the recent
last five or six starts out of Charlie Morton have
been five six innings a piece out of him.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Do you hate him Charlie Morton? I would absolutely take him, yes,
for sure. Oh I think this city would welcome him. Yes,
And I think he's comfortable here are you? What do
you want more? Left handed bat, right handed pitcher, right
handed pitcher?

Speaker 6 (36:09):
Because Saturday showed me that Saturday showed me that is
as good as Colton Gordon, which he wasn't the problem obviously,
he pitched well on Friday. But Lance McCullers Junior, I mean,
it's twofold with him his performances like that that can happen.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
And it's also the injury thing.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
I mean, as much as I love the guy, as
much as I want to see him pitch, and as
much as I hope that he is successful every time
he's out.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
There on the mound, I just don't know who I'm
going to get. This has nothing to do for me
with whether I like the guy. I want him successful
because I want him successful. I like him with that,
we don't even need to qualify that you're one hundred
percent crack. I want to see him kick ass. But
when I'm watching him this year, it feels to me
that there's not a And I think the one start
he grinded it out, scattered some hits and hung in there,

(36:53):
but it's a when he's going good. And I guess
you can say this about a lot. But like for instance,
Fromber's got to the point, even if he's not dominating you,
we've seen it a couple starts. He'll hang in for
six and two thirds or six and a third and
scatter some hits and grind through it and give you
an average performance, but a chance to still win an
average performance based on how good he is. But those

(37:14):
barahmas with Lance right now, And I know, but I
can't judge him because he's been hurt in the path
and talk about the arm, because if you're running him
out there and starting him, then he's healthy. So I
can't say, yeah, but he's still it's first, it's eighty
his first eighty games back since better. I can't look
at it like that. If you're running him out there,
I judge him like he's a top five, like he's

(37:34):
one of my five starters. For me, it looks a
bit like did he When he's going good, he'll get
you twelve strikeouts, You're like, damn, he's back. And then
when he's going bad, you're like, he can't get anybody
out the happy medium where he can grind through a
bad And when I say this, I don't think he
mentally thinks this, But when he's out front and things

(37:54):
are going well early, you're looking good, I think he
has a little bit of trouble at least maybe And
I don't even know if the metrics point out, but
from watching his starts this year, I almost feel like
when he's getting when when the ball stays on the
same plane, the speeds are not you know that everything's changed,
and there's not a lot of change in much that
he's doing now. Most would get raked. But I don't

(38:15):
know if right now he knows how to give you
a performance. It's average but hang in there. That not
not mentally or that he's not tough enough, but it's
either it's it's almost a well, it's almost like a golfer.
You're either hitting making birdies or double bogies right, You're
not making a lot of pars in between. Sure, And
I feel like that with him, that he's got the
ability to go out there and say, damn this, throw

(38:36):
a no hitter, then he's also got the ability to
not get out of the second inning. And and instead
of where it's like okay, if you walk three in
the first inning, stick with him. He'll grind it out
I'll see in five and two thirds. Maybe I'm wrong,
but it just feels like that to me. So and
I understand your trust factor in him, because I don't
think that they probably are. Well. Yeah, he's a no brainer,
single elimination right now. And it's Lance mc colors and

(38:58):
you got it, and it's his start, his turn, and
it's Lance mccullors or. Pick one of the other guys,
not one of the starters. Pick you pick one that
you like. You said, not one of the starters, not
not one of not from ber Hunter Brown. Okay, give
me and give me another one that you like. Do
you trust the most out of the other ones, I said,
Colton Gordon. It was Brandon Walter on Friday. Okay, Walter
mccullor's game on the line right now, Walter today, Now, yeah,

(39:22):
the way passed. You almost have to write. Yeah, So
that that that's where the decisions they're gonna have to make.
And I hope we're I hope Lance gets in this
where the keeps growing and growing and thanks change and
he's dominant because when he's good, dude, the guy is
as good as stuff as anybody on the staff. As
we know that. But that that's something I have to make.
But look at this, we're complaining. You're talking about going
and get Charlie Morton, and we're talking about the possibility

(39:44):
of going and getting Mulleins, And what is the platoon? Guys?
Are you going to start him and move to bond
back to platoon and put more jose Al to bad
second base? Whatever that is? And they're fifteen and thirty four,
and that of course is valid. So do you need
and you wouldn't. I don't know how much you had
with waste pitching. Probably more, but you had Charlie Moore too,

(40:05):
who wouldn't want Charlie Morton had to especially the way
he's going. What are you gonna have to give up?
That's the thing you have to decide. I wouldn't imagine
it's a lot where Charlie is in his life, but
probably more than you thought you'd have to give up
with the ways pitching. Well, I mean, is his name
being mentioned anywhere?

Speaker 6 (40:17):
I haven't seen it anywhere, But if bombed the Orioles,
I absolutely would because I mean for Mullen, I think
you're probably going to let him walk after this season,
So I mean, how much of a price tag is
that for him? I understand that that kind of feeds
into all of this, but I just believe that your
priority is a back into the rotation guy. You can

(40:40):
win with great pitching and average hitting. You can't win
with average pitching and great hitting. Bingo, yeah, bingo. And
is you know, look as good as Brandon Walter has been.
He's been fantastic for you. Colton Gordon the same deal,
and then you throw in them the Colors factor here,
I really feel like you can only go two out
of those three the rest of the way.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
I mean you probably you're going to continue to run
him out there, I think for now, But when do
you make the decision? Starter Bullpen give you one or two?
And from mccolors, I'm talking about I don't know. And
maybe we're just because of one performance we're getting out
in front of ourselves. But it's something you're gonna have
to address because when the trade deadline comes, it becomes.

Speaker 6 (41:17):
Real well, and then it's you know, the Irraghetti factor.
What is Christian hobby Er give you?

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Garcia? Yeah, I have Hobbyer's throwing ninety five. It doesn't
feel like it's three months away. You're throwing ninety five.
That's his that that's usually his top end stuff, right,
ninety five ninety six years lives in the ninety two
ninety three res right, so he's coming back pumping at
ninety five right now. The question is like stretching him out,
But I can't imagine it's going to take three months

(41:45):
to do that, hopefully not. So you got that's part
of it. If you get a hobby on Garcia back,
and Dana Brown will say he said it before in
the past, having those guys back is like having you
just traded for two brand new starters. That's how you're.

Speaker 6 (41:57):
Feeling right well, especially when you haven't had year in
Garcia for a couple of years.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
Right.

Speaker 6 (42:02):
So Rogers, see you're right there. You get you involved
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Speaker 6 (42:55):
US men's national soccer team going the kicks against Costa Rica.
They win and move on to the Gold Cup semi
final kicks. You know the group, Yeah, it was god uh,
Foster the people, sorry, Foster the people, pumped up kicks.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Just making sure you're on the same page. Danny. They
have other good Danny boy.

Speaker 6 (43:15):
Well, I mean that that goes without saying, but they
they have they have a few other good songs too,
but that's the one that put them on the map. Yeah,
that was the one that that got people. Although you know,
Roger gets you here in just a second. But this
is another aside and maybe one day it is. It
is a stakeout. Is the lead singer. I met him
once at my previous spots and yeah, so you know,

(43:38):
just somebody said, hey, you know that's the lead singer
and I was like, oh, that's cool. So just you know, hey,
big fan of your work. It was just a passing
conversation and as I'm walking off. He says, oh, appreciate
me and cheers, and I'm like, cheers, we don't have
drinks in our hands, like I just it is one
of the most disingenuous, like hey, Cee you later, like
just give me a hey, thanks or take care or

(44:01):
is he around or something like that.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Us man, Yeah, they are, they are, okay. So I
was saying, that's even part of it too. It's like
that's a real British thing. That's not British, right. If
he'd have said cheers, mate, I would have said that
that's just like their way of saying.

Speaker 6 (44:13):
Oh, you're from Denver, Colorado, Birmingham, you know, Britain.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Yeah, cheers is usually the thumbs up for you know.
You could picture Ian Baker Finch saying that, sure right,
one of the.

Speaker 6 (44:23):
Guys, Yeah, yeah, any of them.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
You're talking about an American band. The cheers is like yeah,
it's just like, what, well, he didn't foster the people properly, No,
he didn't. You got if he foster the people, probably
they'll all have pumped up kicks. I just I feel
like that's it's just say take care as saying hey,
how you doing when you don't really care how somebody
is doing could be because no matter what they say,

(44:49):
they're not really no matter what you say, they're not listening.
You know some are, but you know, the persons not like, man,
how are you You're doing all right?

Speaker 9 (44:55):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (44:55):
What's going on? Hey? How you doing right? But really,
no matter how you answer it, it really it doesn't.
They don't care. You know, run of those. So they
tried to faster the people Dan and you were you
got some disdain towards towards pumped up kicks faster the
People's lead Ciga front man. I do.

Speaker 6 (45:11):
I do like their music, and I've gotten past that part.
But it's just like, you know, like when I hear that,
I'm just kind of like, oh, no, would you.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Rather say, okay, pretend like pass me? He says, say
hi to me, Hey, Sean, how you doing? Hey? Cheers prick? Wow?
Would that be good?

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Well?

Speaker 6 (45:26):
I mean at least I know where you're coming from,
so I mean, at least there's some context there.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
I love it though, but I get I do. I
know what you say. It's like I've always said, I
know it's not that big a deal, but somebody it's happened,
happens too much for a younger generation. I know they
but calling you, hey, what's up, champ or boss or pal?
It's yeah, I say bud because just a habit, right,

(45:52):
But when somebody says it usually it's like it feels
like when they say it in certain situations is condescending, right,
And it's not a big deal. But when you know,
like I remember pulling up with an Arizona, I pull
up to Valet and getting out to go get something
to eat, and how long can be your boss? And
finally I looked him. He called me like boss three times,
like forty seconds. I said, my name is Sean. It's

(46:12):
not boss. When i'm your boss, you can call me.
I ain't your boss. But you know, it's it's like
that young to old thing, right, or older thing than them.
It's and it's not that big a deal, but it's
like it's just like fingernails and it just chaps my asshole,
kind of like you saying it's just just hey, cheers.

Speaker 6 (46:27):
Well, it's like one of the coaches we had in
high school, Coach Fits is if you ever called him
Fits or anything other than coach, he would always I'm
not your drinking buddy.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Yeah, your coach to call me like and rightfully so
he's he's damned rights like a doctor. We said that before,
but and I get it because but I don't ever
hear thanks boss. Now when I see it, when I
watch NCIS and and and Tony says it to Mark Harmon,
you know, then it's like, you know, thanks boss. That
that's the respect of yeah you know you know that? Yeah,

(46:58):
what do you call him? Boss? Though, It's like it's
the respect that thanks both when they say we got
to get this, got you boss, Well, that means that
you're you're your your answering to the big dog.

Speaker 6 (47:06):
Sometimes I will go chief or something like that if
I forgot the name.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah, oh yeah, I get that. Yeah Chief another one, dude,
those are fight thanks chief, would you? Yeah? I know
it's that when people do that, I don't I don't
think they mean it like we sometimes we take it,
but it just feels too a little too a little

(47:31):
almost like they're trying to troll a little. Ye right,
that's not that they're trying.

Speaker 6 (47:35):
To troll, but I mean I think it like almost
kind of like makes you feel more.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
It's a bit condescending if they mean it.

Speaker 6 (47:42):
There is there is errors of that, like like I
was gonna I was gonna say, I don't know if
like it makes you feel more dignified, but like it's
just like yes, there there is that it.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Brings us closer together because we're good enough. I can
call you boss and it's like condescending or like, don't
think that just because i'm Valet Parking or then that
that I can't call you boss in a condescending way.
It didn't matter with the job with Valley Park or CEO.
I don't care if you're twenty five and you're calling
a seventy year old or a forty year old boss.
It's like it just feels weird if you don't know them.
It's it's just like a response in a text of
just thanks, Yeah, that's that means that there's yeah, it's

(48:18):
a little too cold, does that make sense? And this
is a little too warm with the the other extreme
like hey, thanks, chief, I throw back t y. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (48:26):
Like our good buddy Brian Cushing once when we were
getting them on the air, he he gave me the
idea to start using this as uh, you know, I
just texted him back, Hey, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
NP No probably. I was like, hey, you know what
all like that? Shortening it all up? Man, No waste time,
no wasted no wasted motion, no wasted time, no wasted energy,
any of those things. It's not that big a deal
with Sometimes it's like, are you condescending me? I wouldn't
condescend you, no matter what your job everything is. But
like everything, I'm a little older than your saying boss.
Just to be a wise ass, is it dear vernacular?

Speaker 8 (48:58):
Right?

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Like we say hello? The tone yeah and the tenor
no question? Yeah? Tone, tone and tenor both those things?
The two teas?

Speaker 6 (49:05):
Yes, uh, you know, speaking of energy and a team
that hopes they have good energy, that's the Astros. Roger
wants to talk about the Astros. Could they be energized
after the trade deadline?

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Good morning Roger, Good morning Jans.

Speaker 12 (49:19):
No.

Speaker 7 (49:20):
I just think this picture it was grossly overchewed. They
need to be rewarded, and I'm not sure Cedric knows
is a guy you need to be rewarded with. It
looks like he got two ten hitter give a slapping.
He can play a couple of positions, But you want
a guy with the stick man. You want to make
a trade don't make a trade for the for the
sake of making a trade. You know, let's make one.

(49:42):
You're gonna make a trade, guys, you know, get him rewarded. Man,
these guys have been busting it, you know, and uh,
you know, as for all for all mccollor's as good
intentions too is by the way, I think you man
gets down to it only because simply because you waste
too many pops. He's just waste too many take pictures

(50:05):
at this point. And I just think next year, when
he gets very wrapped up and he gets a whole
season to to do it, then then we'll we'll look
at him then. I just I just think that he's
better served than the bullpen this year. We you know,
thank god, we have a surplus of vice that came
out of freaking nowhere. But you know, you got these opportunities,

(50:26):
I think. And yeah, guys, like I said that, mothers,
you know you need to just you know, look bad.
I don't know how how the sauce is gonna be made.
I don't want to know, but I just want to know.
I just I just know that these guys need a stick.
And I'm not sure Yourdon's coming back to be the
Orda on the heat. Nobody really knows somebody on and
you can't really hang your hopes on that he's gonna

(50:46):
come back. He's gonna be Yeah, just you just need
to need to uh, you know, this ship the way
you've been doing it, and and you know, don't don't
you know, don't wait for making a good move. Man,
let's see it.

Speaker 6 (51:03):
I appreciate it, Roger. I mean, I count on Jordon
when he's ready to come back. I mean, you know,
it's something that we can continue after the steakout too.
But I mean Dana Brown with some interesting things on that.
As a matter of fact, let's do that. Uh, the
Steakout's coming up, and then after that bottom of this hour,
let you hear a little bit from Dana Brown because
an encouraging update on Jordon yesterday and maybe back sooner

(51:26):
rather than later.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
We'll let you hear all of that.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
But coming up next, a historic franchise the final time,
Well we can talk about it here. It is a
Sean Salisbury Show on a Monday Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 8 (51:39):
Listen to emotionally tied to the team.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
The Sean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 9 (51:45):
Hi, let's go.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 2 (51:53):
The Salisbury's takeout Salisbury Takeout on.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
The Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
On a Monday here on your home of the Astros
and the Rockets Sports Talk seven ninety, both of those
organizations in the news because the Astros beat the Cubs
to nothing take two out of three from them over
at dik And Park on the weekend, and Jabari Smith
Junior extended on a five year, one hundred and twenty
two million dollar deal. According to reports, Top Gun Sean,

(52:24):
we got the return of Maverick a couple of years ago.
That was like kind of our first return back to
movie theaters, I feel like, because COVID obviously movie theaters
weren't open all that kind of stuff, and took a
little bit of time to get back because things were
being released earlier on streams. So people were just like, well,
I'll skip out on doing that and I'll just do

(52:44):
all the good stuff, you know, good things at my house.
And that was the first time I feel like when
we all said, okay, fine, you know what, I'll go
back to the theaters again. Top Gun three is a go.
According to director Joseph Kazinski. He was on or He
talked to GQ magazine and he said, I think we
found a way to do it, not only the scale

(53:06):
of what we're proposing, but the idea of self, of
the story we're telling, and synesthetic adding.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
To it with a tweet.

Speaker 6 (53:15):
Top Gun three will explore Maverick confronting an essential crisis.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
There's one last ride for Maverick. I think that does
that what is going to be called Maverick One last ride?
I think so? Yeah.

Speaker 6 (53:29):
See, and and part of me with that you would say,
you know, oh, it's just gonna be Maverick.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
You know, he'll they'll go on it on a dangerous mission,
just like he and and time are we talking about
when they say that that we're going to be fighting
zombies or something. I don't think they'll be fighting zombies.

Speaker 6 (53:46):
I mean I would think that probably with the current,
you know, situation we have in the Middle East. I mean,
I'm trying to remember, was it the Russians that they
were going after and in Top Gun two where they
had to, you know, do the really dangerous pull up
up with tons.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Of well, when somebody dropped the bomb to clear it
out and another one comes by and drops the right. Yeah,
you gotta and then you gotta climb because you run
into the mat. Yeah, it was it in the hills somewhere,
and yeah, I think you might be right. So I
don't know who the opponent will be here, But that's good.
That's first I've heard of it.

Speaker 6 (54:17):
I was going to say, I think you've got to
go some sort of Mid East dictatorship or something.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Let's go then you don't have to go that far.
Just go to New York City and battle that bear, okay,
or that they not yet yet, the the the there
hopeful for one party. Yeah, go there, because you don't
even have to go overseas to find it because he's
going to turn it into and what do you have
to go chase down? So good luck.

Speaker 6 (54:45):
I think in this case. I think in this case
we we will have a different enemy. But at least
at first when I saw this, I said, oh, no,
they're gonna kill off Maverick.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
That's that's how they kill you.

Speaker 6 (54:57):
I mean, I would think that if you didn't already
have the storyline of there's one Last Ride, then you
know you probably could because then if nothing else, you
could at least have the franchise go to Miles Teller
and he's like the next step of Top Gun. He
becomes Pete Mitchell himself, and then Bill Pullman's son, you know,

(55:18):
Glenn Powell, whoever else you know, they're they're all part
of it. But in this case right here with Cruz,
you know, I'm almost wondering if it's final.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Do you think give me the right hander?

Speaker 6 (55:29):
I think so, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I think they
will have like a passing of the torch, Like I
don't think I think the current incarnation of Top Gun
it will be. But Miles Teller is just getting going
and he did a really good job. And Top Maverick.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yeah, and dude, the franchise is printing money, So why
end it? I wouldn't. I mean, if you can find
ways to keep I mean, like fast Interfear, say, just
keep finding ways to new vehicles and new fights and
the rest of it. If you can find somebody who's
got the same swagger that Cruz has is Maverick, and
you can make it and you feel good about it,

(56:04):
just the name alone, this the you know, this the
the whole franchise, Prince Money. So I doubt it'll be
the last one, but the last one with Cruise obviously. Well,
but I mean, look at what Rocky has done where
you know, Stallan is like, I can't get in the
ring anymore. Guys, you can't do that to me, right,
you know, I'm busy running a family in Tulsa, right,

(56:25):
which I did.

Speaker 6 (56:26):
I did finish both of those seasons. A great show.
It's underrated show. Yeah, I'm the King. I finished watching
this this weekend. I love the one guy tries to
rob them at the casino and his buddy Goodie goes,
where are you gonna go?

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Mars?

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Exactly? What a great show?

Speaker 12 (56:43):
Right?

Speaker 1 (56:44):
It really is really, really really good show. But yeah,
well that's good. Note news, And when do we have
released twenty eight or something.

Speaker 6 (56:51):
I have not seen a release date for Top Gun three,
but at least that the idea is.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
In the works, strip down and get ing rolling and
it will be done.

Speaker 6 (57:01):
And Maverick stars expected to be on board for this one,
so that's of course, Miles Teller, Glenn Powell. They are
expected to return for the third film, and Cruz could
very well pass on the Top Gun legacy to the
next generation.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
So there you go, that's what it is. He'll come back.

Speaker 6 (57:21):
This time it will be he and Jennifer Conley running
off and and you know, because it did kind of
lead you to believe that it was like, all right,
that's it. You know, good job, Pete. If you finished
the job, you got back to the aircraft carrier not
named after camp Smith, but an aircraft carrier, and then
you got back to Kell.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
You know, you know Jennifer Conley, Right, Yeah, it's time
for those two to go live happily ever after and
maybe have a baby. At this point, I would probably
say that's out the window. But I know it's movies, Dan,
I can do anything I want.

Speaker 6 (57:57):
That's true. Okay, that's true. But then you are sixty
something years old. You really need Tom Cruise doing that?

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Well, uh is it? Is it de Niro or Pacino
or having baby? Aren't they in there? Aren't they?

Speaker 9 (58:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (58:10):
I mean it just depends on you to see if
what's his name? Yeah, and Belichick goes out route he
may does she want a baby? Yeah? There are twice. Right,
he doesn't need that bill, you don't need Maybe he does,
maybe a kinder gender bill. Okay, well he's already got
three grown up, bring another one into the world. Damn

(58:30):
if you're the three grown up ones, give the woman
what she wants. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not calling them
my brother. No you will, No, No, I won't, Yes,
you will, I won't. If your mom and dad decide
to have another baby, you'll call it.

Speaker 6 (58:43):
He'll be your little brother. That's out the windows. Okay, okay, yeah,
trust me. We're good with two Me and my brother,
right and he with his kids and and uh you know,
uh my my soon to be brother in law and
his two boys. Yeah, I feel you. But you know what,
Baby Belichick needs to bring it. Maybe ma, he needs

(59:04):
to make Mama happy. I don't know, Maybe he needs
to No, not that way, No, see talking. See that's
that's I was gonna say. I think you're good with that.
You you're good. You're good with.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
What's a little disdain though, Danny.

Speaker 6 (59:19):
Well, it's because I just don't even want to think
about the process.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Yeah, you don't want to think about their make it love? No, No,
not anywhere close Cruise and Conley. No, Tommy, Tommy's got
to be in his what mid sixties now sixty two,
sixty two you can still bring it.

Speaker 6 (59:36):
And he's still doing all his own stunts. So that's
why I love I forget was it sixty minutes or somebody.
The guy that was up in the helicopter with him
and he, you know, cruise gets out onto the the
the I guess landing gear whatever you want to call
it you're talking about. It was for the new mission impossible.
And you know, he thought he's moving. He's got the

(59:56):
microphone on and he's got his his jump pack on
and he asked. The guy goes, you're coming. He goes,
not on your life. He goes, all right, see you
down there. He jumps off there you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Go see you. That's right. He does his own he
uh knew.

Speaker 6 (01:00:13):
It was when James Corden was still likable, which we
found out pretty quickly that he wasn't. Uh, but when
he happened, well you found out what an absolute just
you know, toothy Jerky was. So once once you found
that out, you were like, all right, you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Know that because you had him. He was just a
fun loving guy, right. See, when you find out nothing
like that, right.

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
It's people like that that that you think he's a
wolf in clothing saying yeah, because I mean I think
it's it's one of those that they show, they show
certain people that side, and it's it's more or less
just to fool them, right. I mean, it worked out
well for him, and then soon enough it didn't because

(01:00:53):
then the networks were like, well, you know that that
ruse is kind of gone. We can't really put him
back out there. Oh he's a fun loving gen Gordon.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
No, he's not.

Speaker 6 (01:01:01):
He treats servers like garbage, and he treats people like garbage.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
So he kind of went away, didn't he. Yeah, look,
I'm finny, not hard to treat people kindly, not hard.

Speaker 6 (01:01:11):
See, And that's what I always tell people is you
know they see people like that, Oh that's the way
I gotta be. I go, you're looking at it the
wrong way. That's a short win right there. To be
that way is to fool people, to do all of that,
because soon enough the true nature comes out and people
know exactly who you are, and then you don't get
opportunities anymore because they're like, yeah, you fooled me long enough, you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
A lot more effort to be an idiot. Too much work, man, consistency,
even if you want it, it's just too much work.

Speaker 6 (01:01:40):
Well, it's just exactly that. I mean, why why do
you want to It's not this cat no, no, me neither.
But anyway, Top Gun three it will ride great news.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
I'm excited. I'm sure it'll be good because in truth,
if you really want, there's a handful actors. If you
say you want the movie to make money, m hm,
Cruise is one of them. He just is right, doesn't
matter if it's a mission possible franchise, doesn't matter if
it's a Top Gun franchise. Whatever did the Jack reach
a franchise? You know? With with with that whatever Cruise
gets involved in. In truth, he's a money maker. He

(01:02:12):
just is.

Speaker 6 (01:02:13):
TV show Jack Reacher is more in line with the
book character than.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
The physical the physical appearance. Yet he still can sell
those movies still, you know what I'm saying, The Cruise can.
So yeah, make no mistake, whether you think it's the
best one or not, it will print money because it's
that fine franchise and Cruise is involved. When he's a
he's a grinder and he doesn't. Frank does a hell
of a job. Man.

Speaker 6 (01:02:34):
There you go, And then soon enough Liam Neeson in
the same character.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Yeah, well, and guess what in the movie houses are like? Yeah,
as long as that money keeps printing. Brother, we're in.
It's gonna find ways.

Speaker 6 (01:02:47):
It's gonna be the former Belfast detective right, Liam Neeson,
his wife passed a few years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Give me oh yeah, trying to make up with them.

Speaker 6 (01:02:56):
He's in the local pub when somebody tries to come
in and muscle the pub owner.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Down and out, and that springs him into Oh he's back.
That's it. Are you working again, John? Yeah? I would
say that. Yeah, that's exactly right. Gotta love them, gotta
love them.

Speaker 6 (01:03:09):
But uh, anyway, all right, let's get back into the
Astros because an encouraging update from Dana Brown twofold. We'll
let you hear that next as you joined Robert Ford
yesterday as part of Astro launch. As we continue here
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Speaker 6 (01:05:27):
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presented by one eight hundred car cash and Sean I
teased it as a couple of bits of audio that
make you optimistic.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
We'll start first, at least with.

Speaker 6 (01:05:40):
The one that we can get an immediate payoff from,
and that is Jordan Alvarez. We see yesterday from Brian McTaggart, Chandlerome,
Matt Kawahara, whoever was out there during early batting practice
sharing footage.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Jordahm was in the cage.

Speaker 6 (01:05:54):
He was taking actual batting practice off one of the
coaches or one of the staff members throwing batting practice,
and he's in there taking swings. And we find out
that he and Chaz both boarded a plane yesterday and
are currently in West Palm Beach and are gonna face
live pitching this week. Dana Brown talking about if that
means we are even one step closer to Jordan coming

(01:06:17):
back soon.

Speaker 13 (01:06:18):
Yeah, So Jordin, you know, outstanding today on the field,
you know, no discomfort or pain afterwards, feeling really good.
Gonna hop on a flight later today, go down to
West Palm and you know, look, he's gonna hit live.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
He's gonna hit live off live pitcher.

Speaker 13 (01:06:34):
You know, he'll probably face you know, Javier while he's
down there, maybe Garcia and some of our other guys
that are down there throwing lives. He's gonna get a
chance to face some major league pictures and then we'll
evaluate him after that, you know, as too is it
gonna be, sugarman? Do we feel like we can expedite
this thing and bring up to la you know, which

(01:06:57):
is not the most likely scenario. But we're not, you know,
putting that aside. We're just going to take a look.
But we need to get him down there and have
him start to hit some.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Lives, all right, So get him down there, start hitting.

Speaker 6 (01:07:11):
Gotta believe probably each day, four five at bats, whatever
it is, just to try to get him ramped up
and try to get him back. But the other question
I have about all this, Sean, is I understand he'd
been doing baseball activities, running, throwing, fielding out there in
left field, all of those different things. He hasn't played
now in over two months. I mean, I think, what's

(01:07:33):
it this? This Wednesday will be two months since he's
been on the field. That's a lot of time away.
How much working out has he even been able to do,
being able to get into the weight room and do
those things and everything else that goes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Well, I can't imagine he does in a whole lot
of freeways hanging off with the wrist, that area of
the hand to me that you know, whether it's movement
where you don't have you know, listen, we're in a
time now. With the expertise and all the training you have,
you can get stronger by doing a lot of work

(01:08:10):
without actually gripping a weight or you know, you put
the things on your wrist, whatever it is. I would
imagine plenty. But because you have a sore hand or
a fracture or you know your your your that's hurting
and you're out a couple of months, your legs are fine,
I would imagine treadmill and running and getting himself. I

(01:08:30):
can't put it this way. There should be zero excuse.
And he's a d H. So it's not like if
we're running marathons and he's a four by four hundred
meter you know, Reley guy, or we're asking him to
go out and you know, win marathons and stuff like that.
And to Kathleen, we're asking to be in shape enough
to swing the bat and that his lower halves in shape,
and that is that he's healthy and healed with his hand.

(01:08:52):
So as far as staying in the cardio conditioning that
takes uh, I mean it's not exactly. You know, like
I said, you're not playing wherever eight seconds you're playing
another down or playing fast in a football game. In
college football, he'll have time to rest to do his thing.
But strength wise, there's a lot of ways you can
get stronger without having to actually grip a weight. And

(01:09:12):
I think that those guys are a lot smarter than
me at it. But just from my vantage point, being
out of shape should not be a problem. He should
actually being good because in truth, when the season's going on,
you ain't doing a lot of running. Dude, you're swinging
a bat, going to the next city, swinging a bat,
going the next city, playing some left field, and then
like you're doing a whole lot of work. That's your maintaining.
He should actually be in better shape now. He went

(01:09:33):
through spring, came in now he's had too much to
cardio do it all, where everything he's done has been
about getting healthy and staying in condition. So he should
actually be in because listen, if you're playing it honestly,
other than Catcher, if you're the first baseman, how much
cardi you work out, you're probably getting your lifts in
between to stay to maintain you're not your body can't.

(01:09:56):
I mean just on hundred six two games, you're not
out there, you know, in your days off going out
there and running intervals, you're getting some rest. So I
would imagine he's in better condition because of the fact
he's had time off and realizes he's you can only
hit for so long a day, so what else am
I gonna do the rest of the day. I got
to keep my body in shape. It can work the
exercise the lower half, the core that core ain't getting

(01:10:16):
in the way of in that hand's not getting a
way of any core work. So that, to me, that's
no excuse now is timing of hitting, of course, But
when it comes to the cardio or the quick twitch
or him being in shape, he actually has a too
much extended training because spring training. I know he played some,
but you get my point is that he's had two

(01:10:37):
extra months now to focus on his body and get
it right without having to travel and do it all.
This should be not this is not a problem. If
we were talking boxing, I'd have a different answer for you.
Even then, though, why you able to punch? Your body
should still be in condition. And you also know mentally
that I can't get too comfortable and say, oh, I'm
a baseball player, I'm a dh I don't have to stay.

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Of course he does, because his lower half is powerful
and he's always in the dude looks like he could
run forever. He's always been in good shape, so I
would imagine he's taking it pretty serious. It's just a
simple timing and grip of the bat and how much
that hurts. As far as his lower half in core.
He should not be one day out of shape because
baseball is not exactly during the season. It's the grind
and the mental grind. It's not exactly training your ass

(01:11:19):
off to get ready for a triathlon.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
It's just the time off and the timing as well well.
And it's that, but it's also how close you are
to the All Star break that I mean, it's just
what's another week at this point, Like, what's what's another
week to get him those at bats, even if it's
as Danny even mentioned in Sugarland or whatever it is,
which frankly, I'd want to just keep him there in

(01:11:41):
West Palm Beach, have him go through a little bit
more work there during the All Star break. So as
soon as that Friday hits, okay, weull go. There's no
way he You're seeing him before the All Star Game.
I have to tell you tomorrow's July first. So let's
let's do the math.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
If he's down in West Palm, he ain't gonna be
down in West Palm for a day, right, wouldn't you
think they're gonna want to fly bats? Come back the
next day? Like it's a three game series and like,
and let's see how you recover. You heard Dan say, well,
see how your response to it. He has any pain,
Let's say I response to it, now live pitching and
doing it. So let's say you do that for a week.
Let's I don't even know what the protocol is for this,

(01:12:15):
but let's say it's a week, and now you come back.
The only way he's here. Also, if he walks out
of that week and they say let's go, and they
don't send him to Sugarland, they want to expedite the process,
and they put him on a major league roster. But
even then, if it's a week, maybe it's two weeks
or ten days, he comes If he has to go
to Sugarland, there's no way. But if he has to,
if he comes back and does it, so that would

(01:12:36):
take us the fourth to the eleventh. You said the
Ulstar breaks in seventeenth or sixteenth, somewhere in that range.

Speaker 6 (01:12:41):
Yeah, it's in the tens, right, the fourteenth, Okay, so
it'll be the two teenth.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Get it's two weeks from tomorrow? Am I correct when
I say that? Two weeks from tomorrow? Why would you?
You're fifty and thirty four. Now he goes and let's say,
gets some at bats, then the All Star Game hits,
he's back off red. Now that's not a bad thing,
resting it for a few days, but why not just
give him the extra rest, especially if you've won a
couple series. You should dominate the Colorado Rockies and then

(01:13:08):
you have who'd you say, Dan Dodger. No, that's exactly right.
You're back out to LA. Now that's high. You'd love
to have him in a high leverage and a high
pressure situation like that, planning against that which may be
a World Series matchup. But in truth, can you survive
without him in those in that series? And the answer
is yes. So if they're gonna go by, don't speed
it up. Now, if he's one hundred percent I've always

(01:13:29):
said this, If he's one hundred percent healthy, and you
see his bat speed and his quickness, but play him
if it's one game. Play him, what's the way? I'm
all for it. But if you're still saying, let's get
if you're questioning if we should give him another week,
give him another week. If you all of a sudden
after this week or five days or ten however long
he's down in West Palm and you walk out of

(01:13:49):
there saying he'll be hitting clean up two days from
now or hitting third two days from now, Bam, play him.

Speaker 9 (01:13:57):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
I don't care if you care. If it's against Colorado, hell,
a little confident is driving the buck? Did you say Colorado? Yeah,
you're playing Colorado? Didn't Dodgers?

Speaker 9 (01:14:04):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Seeing back home?

Speaker 9 (01:14:05):
Fright?

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
So the techo West Coast, a couple trips and you
said Cleveland, Texas?

Speaker 6 (01:14:11):
Right, So there you go, and you go and to
take care of it and that if he's healthy. But
if you're questioning might, it's easy for me. What do
you guys think?

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Should we? If you're asking me if we should, then
you got it. Then I'm telling you wait till the
All Star game's over, the break is over. If you're saying, no, brainer,
we need him in the lineup. He's healthy, why wait?
So if you're asking if the question exists. Man, you
think he needs another week? Give him another week.

Speaker 6 (01:14:38):
Dana Brown also talking about Jeremy Panio. We'll share that
with you either before or after we hear from Steve Sparks.
But Rick c right there. We'll get you involved. You
want to join him? Someone three two one two five
seven ninety. Again it's someone three two one two five
at seven ninety. Don't forget. Steve Sparks joined us in
about fifteen minutes right here for his Monday visit on

(01:14:58):
the Shown Salisbury Show.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
So our firefighters respond to them and then we have
snipers taking them out. It's terrible they happened. Cordlaina, Idaho
last night. Yeah, I saw that starting fires, getting them
to respond to them, and actually attacking them and setting
them up. That's why people who are first responder and

(01:15:29):
their special people and it's in in a sniper mode
to set them up and then take them out. Who
does that? What the world are we doing? What the
world are we doing?

Speaker 9 (01:15:41):
Here?

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
And in Toronto at the at their parade, they're literally
walking the parade. But asked naked, I just I mean,
I understand you're sending a message that ain't the mess,
is it? I don't. I mean if you walk down
to the Mill Street naked, what would happen? Would get arrested?
And would you get arrested? And right fleet, well, well
who shouldn't. I just the world we live in now

(01:16:04):
you wake up to and say, you know what, anything
I'm gonna do? I think I am going to start
a fire and assassinate, do everything I can to take
them out with a sniper rifle. The guys who are
going to respond to a fire in court Aint, Idaho. Yeah,
I just I don't mean to get off there. It's
just been every day. It's something what we tolerate and

(01:16:27):
what we allow. I hope, And this is gonna sound harsh,
and I really don't care. As the search continues for
these guys. Unless it's happened since we've I would imagine
we'd see breaking news on our TV. They they don't
deserve to go back to jail, to go to jail,
they'll take their ass out, eliminate the problem. Then, if
you've got a question, should we or should we? Because

(01:16:49):
that sean that's archaic. Oh well, I'm an I for
an eye guy. When it comes to that, you just
ruined two families, regardless, just the thought process that now
every single now. Now, if you're a firefighter, you've got
to go to work wondering if they've set you up
to take you out and set the fire on purpose
to put you in harm's way. It's harm's way, not
to fight the fire. Yeah enough, I'm just telling you.

(01:17:14):
Put our snipers at the best in their ability. Those
guys don't deserve to go back and have a trial.
Take them out. And the last thing I want to hear, yeah,
they both of them had or if it's two or
three or five, I don't know how many. It is
mental illness, no kidding, you know what mental illness or not.
I'm just telling you right now, if you lose the
right to make any decisions after you do that are firefighters?

(01:17:38):
Yeah no, you know what, Bud. I'm just sorry to
tell you. It sounds archaic or not. I don't care
who's who doesn't like it. I'm all for it. Eliminate
the problem. And there's one way to do it. Keep
them out of our keep them even out of our
off our streets, and out of the jail as well.
Put there, put them in a body bag, and let's
get and make sure you take care of the problem

(01:17:59):
so somebody else doesn't get the idea that look what
I can do and get away with it. Eliminate it. Period.
Let's lighten the mood.

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Speaker 9 (01:21:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
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Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
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Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Great to have him on, Steve, welcome in. What have
you learned that you didn't know about cam Smith? Eighty
games into the season.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
I have could say that he could make adjustments more
quickly than I thought he might be able to. That
We saw it because it reminded us of jord On
when we first saw jord On. The pitch recognition and
his strikes, own discipline, all those things are always going
to lead.

Speaker 9 (01:21:47):
To pretty quick adjustments. But I didn't think he'd.

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
Be able to, you know, shoot fastballs the other way
and hit the brake of balls that are hanging over
the ter thirdy plate and pull those in the seats
as well.

Speaker 9 (01:22:00):
So we're starting to see it get better and better
as he recognizes how other teams are trying to pitch it.
But he makes very quick adjustments, and I didn't expect.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
That, Steve. It probably unfair question to you, but you've
covered it, played it for so long, so I'm looking
at him and comparisons are a pain and he asked,
but I'm gonna make you give me or at least
try to get one from you anyway early in his career,
not on the Astros, outside with the guys you've seen basically,
what's the ceiling and is there a guy you think
he reminds you of?

Speaker 8 (01:22:32):
Well, I haven't thought about that yet, so I might
not be able to. I could probably, you know, if
I sat down for a little bit.

Speaker 9 (01:22:38):
A right hand.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Yeah, we'll touch you up with it next week on
that one.

Speaker 8 (01:22:42):
But Data was.

Speaker 4 (01:22:43):
Talking about that as he shouted him for three games
in college last year and knew that he wasn't going
to slide to the Astros.

Speaker 9 (01:22:49):
It's just how funny that is that you do it.
That's still having a.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
Chance to get him in a train a little later on,
but he saw him as an amateur and watching him
at third base, realizing, this guy's going to get a
little bigger projection wise, and.

Speaker 9 (01:23:06):
This is what good scouts do. I project him as
a right fielder, and he was exactly right. Man, He's
a natural and right field and I don't think he's
going to move from there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Oh we talking Stevens. Forget the comparison to another player,
but you can probably you know what the floor and
the ceiling are. You can at least get an idea. Now,
things change and injuries and hopefully that won't happen. But
just looking at his skill set and ability to do
the things you talked about the quick adjustments, he feels
to me like he's mentally and emotionally tough for a
young kid as well. Do we have a ceiling? Are

(01:23:37):
we talking about good player star or we're talking like
superstar qualities that we see from the best of the
best in this league.

Speaker 9 (01:23:47):
I really don't want to put a ceiling on it.
I think you're seeing the floor though. Sean in the
floor is.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Pretty good right right absolutely, you know he's on the
like right.

Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
Now, he's already one of the best o there's when
you look at the metrics you know in baseball, and
he's going to continue to get better in that regard
and as a hitter, he's going to get better better
as he gets stronger, recognizing the pitches that he can
really you know, maybe take a shot at. I think
he's got really good home run potential. Last year, you know,

(01:24:18):
even when he signed with Chicago when he was in
the minor leagues. I think it was six games in
a row at one point where he had a home run.

Speaker 9 (01:24:24):
So you could see that.

Speaker 4 (01:24:25):
He could probably, you know, start to carry a team
every once in a while, like we've seen great players do,
and I think he's in that mold.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Do you believe this team needs another pitcher before the
All Star break is over or the trading deadline, should
I say, is done?

Speaker 8 (01:24:41):
Well, I don't know where.

Speaker 4 (01:24:42):
That would come from, right So, yeah, they need they
need more pitching, but that might come from Florida because
there's four guys pitching there right now that the Astros envision,
you know, being a part of what's going on with
Eric Getty.

Speaker 17 (01:24:55):
Luis Garcia, Christian Javier or somebody o JP France.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
So there's four guys right there that you should have
confidence in. But you know, getting them healthy and to
the point where they can get these guys to where
they want to go that may be another matter.

Speaker 9 (01:25:10):
So do they need more pitshing?

Speaker 18 (01:25:13):
Let me tell you something that I heard here in
the last week or so. Major League Baseball have used
more and more pitchers every year, right and we've noticed that,
but we don't know to what degree.

Speaker 8 (01:25:25):
And now we're to the point, the.

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
Twenty twenty five halfway point, basically right now, where Major
League Baseball has used as many pitchers this year already
that they employed the entire twenty fourteen season. That's how
bad it's.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Gotten half the season in. You've used more than a
full season in twenty fourteen.

Speaker 9 (01:25:47):
Yeah, exactly, So do the askers need more pitching?

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
Everybody does, say all of them do, right, Steve. So
with that, Steve, you mentioned that in the building, meaning
you know, inside the organize, with those studs down there,
if they're healthy and with the hobby or pumping it
at ninety five, you're like, well, how long? They may
not be far away? So let me talk about help outside.
If I Dan had asked me earlier about you know,
we were talking about a bat or a pitching and

(01:26:14):
mentioned some names. Forget the names. But if I put
your feet to the to the fire, and I said, Steve,
you only get one judging from the ross. Now, let's
say even Jordan's in the lineup healthy and you got
one or two a starting pitcher or a pitcher that
you need that's versatile, or a left handed bat, what
are you doing? You can only have one.

Speaker 9 (01:26:37):
The left handed bat.

Speaker 19 (01:26:39):
You know what I'm watching, and I see I see
right handed pictures with the cutters, with Staying started to
get in the groove with his cutter yesterday and he
had the Ashers battle.

Speaker 8 (01:26:49):
I just think that they need more balance in their lineup.

Speaker 19 (01:26:53):
And the only reason I say that too is you know,
you can never have enough, but they do have.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
They have some surplus as far as pissing goes, and
they develop pictures.

Speaker 9 (01:27:05):
Better than they do back.

Speaker 8 (01:27:06):
That's just a fact.

Speaker 4 (01:27:08):
So I think right now the Asters need more balance
in their lineup, and I think the left data bats
would be the target.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
Steve, I'm gonna make you John Gruden, you know when
he does that film study with players for a second,
and I know your affinity for the guy I'm about
to mention because you've talked about it. But I also
know that there's some things that need fixed. And you've
seen so much baseball. Walk me through it. You're sitting
in a room and I'm giving you an hour on
tape and on video however we're doing it, and to

(01:27:38):
talk and give insight to Lance mccullors. You can judging,
you know, Saturday, maybe the aberration, But tell me what
you'd talk to him about weather, mechanics, his games, any
of those things. You got an hour with him and
we're all watching it on TV. What are you guys
talking about about his game?

Speaker 8 (01:27:57):
I would just probably.

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
Try to get him to throw more fastballs. I think
that would make all of his offspeed stuff more effective.

Speaker 8 (01:28:05):
And we've talked about this even before the long layoff.
He's really good at.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
Making adjustments, and even when he had a plunker earlier
this season, I think he rattle off four games where
he had a crazy amount of strikeouts and was very effective.

Speaker 9 (01:28:21):
So he knows how to make adjustments.

Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
But just for me and assessing what I see from
time to time, I think he gets away from his
fastball when he gets.

Speaker 9 (01:28:30):
In trouble, and I think it's a good pitch.

Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
It's even if the velocity is at where it was
five years ago, it's still always going to be.

Speaker 8 (01:28:39):
Effective to pitch inside to open things up for everything else.

Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
And I think it's even more imperative the slower you
throw to pitch inside to open things up, because you
won't get away with very many mistakes if guys are
diving across the place.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
So that would be my big take and do you
think that's going to happen.

Speaker 9 (01:29:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:29:01):
I'm not saying I'm right, and you're asking me what
I would say.

Speaker 9 (01:29:05):
So if they feel that's the that's the case, I'm
not sure.

Speaker 17 (01:29:09):
I think I think there's a lot of validity to
that though Baseball to know that if guys are sitting
stopt then anything you know, marginally over the white part
of play is much easier to hit it right that
basketball right at some point.

Speaker 9 (01:29:26):
So I think that would help.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
You, all right, Steve, judging from the your trip through
the American League right now, and not just specific, just
kind of overall broad spectrum. Look, every team has weaknesses
or stuff that they need work on. Obvious, guys both
focused on the good teams here, But of the good
teams that are that we think are contenders to find
themselves playing in a World Series. Of those teams are

(01:29:51):
where the ASTROS rankings the weakness part? Or do they
have a more glaring weakness than somebody else or are
they more sound all the way around? I guess where
do they fit in in the pecking order of the
overall team. But also if you're pointing to one major weakness,
is there's a little less weak or somebody else's that
are contenders.

Speaker 8 (01:30:12):
I think they're very very.

Speaker 9 (01:30:13):
Much less week.

Speaker 4 (01:30:14):
They're nineteen and seven this month, Sean's you know, there's
not a.

Speaker 9 (01:30:18):
Lot of witnesses.

Speaker 4 (01:30:19):
When you watch what they're doing in the teams that
they're playing, you know they've won series.

Speaker 8 (01:30:25):
It gets the Cubs now, the Phillies, met the Padres.

Speaker 4 (01:30:28):
The Blue Jays and a Mariners, all good teams, and
they've done it in pretty candy fashion. And they've done
it with mostly pitching, some timely getting and they're good
at comebacks and you like that trade.

Speaker 9 (01:30:41):
But it's been mostly pitching, and so I don't I
think they have the least amount of playering and weaknesses
of anybody. Do they need a little bit of help.

Speaker 4 (01:30:51):
Everybody could use a little bit of health and to
get better. They could, And I'll go back to the
left hand of bat.

Speaker 9 (01:30:56):
I think that that would be very helpful.

Speaker 4 (01:30:59):
I just know it's a pitch you're you know, and
I've seen it too. The guys, the sliders except basketballs
are going to give this heavy right handed scene some fits.
But I like everything about him. You know what, Here's
here's another one, Sean. You know, we're always talking.

Speaker 20 (01:31:17):
About how are they doing this? You know, so it's
easy the points of the pitching. But here's another one too.
And I was talking to one of the players. It's
been on a few teams, and we were we were
talking about like, how how is this happening again?

Speaker 8 (01:31:32):
And he told me something.

Speaker 4 (01:31:34):
He said, the biggest difference that I see is when
a guy comes into the clubhouse, there's one player on
this Astros scene who will go sit.

Speaker 8 (01:31:43):
In that locker and get to know him and talk
to him and make.

Speaker 4 (01:31:48):
Him feel inclusive right away. He does it every time.
And he said, it's the it's the face of the franchise.
It's out too. But and he does it, and he
makes a point of it. And he said, that's what's
different about theture in this clubhouse. He makes you feel
included and important right away. He said, they hit the
ground run. So whether it's a pitcher or position player

(01:32:09):
or whatever, these guys online they hold each other accountable
as far as their preparation goes. But al cheu be
gets to know him on a personal basis and that
ups their their performance.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
I think, unbelieving, Why isn't that shocking at all? Because
of the guy right me.

Speaker 9 (01:32:28):
Another thing.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
He told me another thing too. He said, you know
I noticed that right away, and you see it in
spring training. I mean, he spends time with guys that
aren't even going to be on the scene. There's no
wayther a ball or double a. He knows that they're
not going to be on the sea. But he said,
the pain is starting to do that now too, so
he's investing in his teammates. So, man, that's a that's
a great example set.

Speaker 3 (01:32:50):
Steve.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
Let me had you on this one. You get back
to your thing this morning. Is I've said, how far
off am I? Or is it spot on or close?
Dan and I were talking. I said, give me really
good pitching with average hitting, I can still win a championship.
Give me average pitching with great hitting, I'm gonna fall short.
That holds true here too. I believe agree or disagree.

Speaker 9 (01:33:14):
Mostly in the posting, you know, even for the long and.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
I'm talking about postseason for the most part, Steve, exactly,
But you still got to get there for sure.

Speaker 9 (01:33:22):
I always go back. I always go back to twenty
twenty two.

Speaker 20 (01:33:25):
And what separated the asterisk from everybody else was clearly
that they were more fresh.

Speaker 8 (01:33:30):
And they had a cushion.

Speaker 9 (01:33:31):
The last month and a half of the season.

Speaker 4 (01:33:33):
They were able to rest guys, get them off their feet,
and go to a six man rotation for over half
of the season. Things of that nature. And it was
a pair that the other teams were sucking win at
the end and the Asters were steamrolling. And if the
Asterisk can keep a cushion, or maybe keep the gas
the gas down for a little bit longer and to

(01:33:55):
increase the cushion, not get too confident, but start to
rest guys, get them up their skip a guy, a
starter or two, and go into the playoffs fresh like
they did in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 9 (01:34:07):
I think it makes them a lot easier.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Yeah, battle test that they are and fresh obviously, and
it's it holds Steve that holds treats the valet we
stand in every sport. It's why the forty nine ers
when Bill Walsh was there, and the Cowboys, like in December,
they backed off practice. They weren't beating each other up.
They just beat each other beat other teams on Sunday,
So while everybody else was gasping, they were fresh legged
and it paid off to Super Bowl championships, and there's

(01:34:31):
that that that's got to be a big reason why
this team when they do it, if they can stay
fresh and with the way the bullpen is, it'll be
a blasht to watch something. Yeah well yeah, well it
sure does from my vantage point, not from theirs, but
they sure making it look easy at times this year.
It's gonna be a fun watch in the second half.
Great stuff. Enjoy the road trip, brother, and we'll see
you next Monday. We appreciate your time and have a
great Fourth of July holiday.

Speaker 9 (01:34:53):
Cheers.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
Yeah, damn, that one's for you. Cheers. I love it,
Thanks mate, We'll talk to you later. Man. That's a
great Steve Sparks will come back and visit. He was
paying attention. I like it, mate, Uh And hey, cheers, Dan,
So there you go. So now text him and tell
him how don't do that? Tell him? But I love
it is he he's got perfect timing. If you ever

(01:35:15):
know that about him is delivering. He knows how to
read the room. He does, and he read it. Got
you got your ass. That's like a d's nutstroke.

Speaker 9 (01:35:21):
He just got.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
We'll come back into my heels. Me and Dan and
you guys, cheers. We roll along in the eight o'clock hour.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
More Sean Salisburg, get in strap in and write.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
In Oh you will yes. But the late singer of
Foster the People, Yes, deliver the tire. He's yeah, Steve's no.
I wonder if Steve likes Foster the People.

Speaker 6 (01:35:49):
He thinks so not pumped up kicks, but there's a
few other people. Yeah, yeah, I think he could be.
He's a he's a hip guy. So uh, Sparky and
the crew out there in Denver off today and then
get back at it tomorrow. But stros two nothing winners
yesterday over the Cubs. They take two out of three
in that series, five and one against the Cubs in

(01:36:11):
the Phillies. That's living right, And it just goes to
show you how well they've played at dyk In Park
this year and continue to play at dik In Park.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
They're going to play good teams in the postseason. You
might as well eliminate them now.

Speaker 6 (01:36:22):
And you used to beating them and in the style
they're doing it too. It's something that can translate. Jabari
Smith Junior five year, one hundred and twenty two million
dollars contract extension with the Rockets and Aldrich pott Gater
the winner at the Rocket Classic five, first time winner
at twenty How about that five whole playoff out of
him able to hold off Grazerman, Eric Grazerman and Max

(01:36:46):
Max Graseman.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
I'm saying that's okay. And Chris Kirk and Chris Kirk. Yeah,
there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:36:50):
So exciting finish yesterday in Detroit. Seven one three two
one two five seven ninety is the number to get in.
Ricky been patient. Good morning, Rick, Good morning, Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
How you doing very much show?

Speaker 4 (01:37:03):
Just love your guys' show.

Speaker 9 (01:37:05):
I'll be brief.

Speaker 21 (01:37:07):
Steve Sparks kind of touched on it, and what I
was going to ask you all was, how do you
see this kind of working out? You know, I'm this
is obviously a great problem to have, but you have
all those pictures in West Palm, You've got Walker and
all these guys just pitching lights out. How do you
see it kind of coming together to where you keep

(01:37:29):
what's going on and working in tech? But yet how
these other pictures kind of work their way in?

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
Appreciate the call. Rick, very kind compliment too.

Speaker 6 (01:37:39):
That was go ahead, No, I mean it's you know
the point that I brought up was about just not
necessarily believing in all three of the guys that you
could potentially have to count on the rest of the
way because Spencer Raghetti at this point, we're flipping the
calendar to July tomorrow, and I don't think he's gonna
be back this month. I mean, at least from what

(01:38:00):
we're seeing and hearing right now from his work there
in West Palm Beach, I don't think you can count
on him until early August at the earliest. And I
mean the same deal for Christian Hobby here and then
when you can, what are you going to count on
out of them? The wild cards Lance McCullers, Junior.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
Dan I and thinking about what our callers said and
how do you weave him in? That's their expertise. The
ass was a know and win, And especially with pitching,
it just kind of goes with talking about the culture
that when they come back and you still have these guys.
And I asked the question last week of how does

(01:38:37):
it how does it fit in right? How do you
how do you know when to move a guy to
the bullpen and keep the culture and keep people happy
and say and you got to manage listen athletes all
you don't want to finish in second place, right, you
want to win? They all do, and oh, it's a
lot of money, and I can go if you finished
a second, it's good and all these points, but you
wanted to win. Same thing here. You want to start

(01:38:57):
if you're a starter, relegated back to the bullpen. But
they just have a way of and as we continue
to talk about, you're gonna need them all at some point,
you're probably gonna need them. So the way you weave
it in is do what you do and they're paid.
Here's one thing that seeing I also think that separates
them from other franchises that I've watched, at least the
way it feels kind of goes along with Steve Sparks

(01:39:20):
is saying how two Vey goes in and gets to
know people. But a culture thing. I almost feel like
there's no explanation you needed. We're here to win. They
understand the big picture, and you're still getting paid. Your
salary doesn't change based on the fact that, oh I
was a starter, I'm going to the bullpen. Take one
hundred thousand dollars off my salary. No, it's just as
important and as we well see the bullpen over the

(01:39:40):
course of it all, with as much work as they're
gonna get, becomes every bit, if not more important, because
you're gonna log a lot of innings with all the
guys combined. Not the number of straight innings you get
from a six inning starter or five inning, but three
guys pitching five innings. You're gonna get work, and you're
gonna need it. I think what happens is you just
have to buy into the plan. Sure, if you get

(01:40:01):
relegated to the bullpen and you're pitching well and Hovey
Air comes back and shows you that he's pumping it
at ninety five and he's Christian Javier, he's gonna start.
So I mean, you've got two choices. You can either
be along for the ride and do your thing and
continue to dominate someone that rears its head again for you,
or you going to the tank. And this team seems
to have found a way or franchise not to let

(01:40:21):
that bother him. So I'll tell you this, it's a
great problem to have. Hey, we've got nine starters. What
do you want to do? The Dodgers had like twelve
of them starting the season, and they're begging for starting
pitching right now because of the injuries they've had, So
it's gonna happen. It's a great point, great question, but
the surplus very few teams get to stand at the

(01:40:42):
midway point or when you hit August, say we got
a surplus a pitching very few regularly. The ones that
do are usually playing when it's down to you're a
series or so away from a world series. Surplus a
pitching of good pitching matters, and they've got a lot
of it. Good problem to have, which means they don't
have to rush, but you can only handle so many injuries.

(01:41:03):
And judging by the injuries and depending on the mccullor's
performance of this, it appears that Javier is going to
need to rear his head in twenty twenty five. And
I'll be honest, I never counted on it this year,
not that it mattered what I thought, but I didn't
count on this. And if you get him, let's say
August first, let's just say that for fun, dude, and
hen he's Christian Xavier. You have just completely lengthded and

(01:41:25):
improved a staff period. But it's the buy in buy
and I use a lot why because it only takes
about three guys not to buy and to disrupt the
whole cart. Dude, I'm just telling you this franchise has
rarely had to deal with that over the last decade.

Speaker 6 (01:41:38):
Well, and Sparky's point about the left handed bat is
valid about balancing out the order, sure, but I just
feel like the priority is more on the pitching side
because I have to have that if this thing is
going to go where I wanted to go. I feel
like that the lineup, it's been more about guys who
either are not here but you will get back, and

(01:42:00):
the guys who are here that you expect more from
a grade.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
Yes, you are a spot on and hopefully you can
do it, but think about this, Dan, look at the
production real quick that you're getting from cam Smith, even
though you're not getting the type production. Maybe from Christian
Walker that you want the consistent team. Maybe that Altuve.
You know, he hits the home run, which is big,
but you know where he goes on that heater, which
he will. But then a guy like cam Smith and
Jake Myers do their thing. So it really But isn't

(01:42:27):
that kind of the essence of what I know? It
sounds cheesy, but isn't that kind of the essence of
a good team really That we talk about people picking
you up when you're struggling, and that says not through
verbage in a clubhouse. It's the other side, Oh you're struggling,
Cam Smith, I gotta do more. I'm a rookie, but
you know what, I gotta do more. And I believe
they kind of take that on and wear it, and

(01:42:49):
I think it's on their sleeve, man. And it's important
because just when you think that I need Christian Walker,
did you expect your right fielder this year? Not only
did you expect it to be Cam Smith when we started,
but did you expect him to hit two eighty and
put him in the four hole windows. I thought this
was going to be one of the worst Gold Glove
caliber rightfielder already. And you say, I don't need Kyle
Tucker back, even though he's got you get my point.

(01:43:12):
We're not begging for Kyle Tucker back here. No, and
he's going to be at All Star and he's a
great player. So somebody else continues to say, Okay, my
turn to lift pitching's done it all season with all
these injuries, they had no choice and now, if you
get healthy, then you'll have some choices to make, but
good problems to have.

Speaker 6 (01:43:31):
Now, you definitely want choices as opposed to desperation, and
the astros, at least right now, seem like they've got
the former scenario on their hands. Ryan John Brandon. See
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Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
Good morning, Hey, good morning, got y'all do it?

Speaker 10 (01:45:44):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
Great great weekend of baseball.

Speaker 12 (01:45:47):
Two days I've seen on the I know the Hull
come out there on Friday and pitch light out. I
know that rabbit came out there yesterday and pitch lights out.
Now sad, it was a disappointed day because the lambs
m of color. Uh it was like batting practice out there.
He didn't have nothing going and uh when when uh

(01:46:07):
when Cam put him up to one with that, but
that Jack, I just knew that he was gonna And
for him to come out the next day then give
up six straight runs, that's unacceptable even for because this
team is young and it's going places. The pitchers and
pitching the life out along with the bullpen, and for
him to come out there and take all the wheel
out to sell. I think this other self. So if

(01:46:28):
I was him, I was thinking about going to the
bullpen to try to get my get my rhythm back
because right now that's a fast team playing fast. The
young guys was playing fast, and I think he's just
out of touch right now. He plays flow. He looked
old and he just didn't looking. I got one question
for y'all, but I'm gonna hang up a list, and uh, y'all,
let me know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:49):
Do it seem like you did somebody?

Speaker 12 (01:46:51):
Uh great players is getting targeted like uh, they're making
a different in this winning like Pinya. I thought they
throw the ball at Cam a couple of times they do.
It seem like you we being targeted, and I thank.

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
You, I appreciate the call. And no it doesn't.

Speaker 6 (01:47:07):
I mean, I the one on Friday night, I think
that was just a pitch that got away and unfortunately
it gets pinia. I mean, I understand in Sacramento and
h in the Angels series you kind of wondered a
little bit with al Tuova, but no, I think it's
just pitchers pitching inside and sometimes it gets away from you.

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:47:25):
I don't since that there is an intention to try
to throw out Astro's hitters. But with mccullors, I mean,
we heard what Sparky said, and you know on Saturday
that first inning command was an issue, so probably was
trying to figure out, all right, where do I have
my best command? It's with my breaking stuff. The breaking
stuff was not good, so the fastball didn't matter. But

(01:47:47):
even with the decreased velocity. I mean, Steve Sparks, the
guy that pitched in the Majors, knows a lot about it.
If he's saying that, then I think there probably is
something there with mccullors where you look at it and say, hey,
we're off of this, and then go with the other
stuff real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:48:03):
I don't believe they're targeting the assos because some get
away and you'll keep an eye on as it goes on.
But I don't think we're at that point right now.
They're not a big taunting team anyway, they really aren't.
They don't taunt. They do. They take care of their business.
But I would imagine they'll protect and I like that,
Oh you can keep on it, But I don't think
those are intentional throws. I think sometimes it just happens.
But the mcculor situation is going to have to improve it.

(01:48:26):
They're gonna have decisions to make. And he's done some
really good things. And I think Steve's right. I mean,
when you see it, and it should be easy to
adjust to throw more fastbles. If that's part of what
Lance mccullors wants to change you.

Speaker 6 (01:48:37):
Pretty much when you get to the postseason, the first
round you can go with three, the second round and on.
You got have four starting pitchers at least. So that's
what the race is to right now, final to fifth one,
just depending right just maybe if you want to, you know,
be able to try to give you know, fromber Hunter
Brown an extra day. I mean, although Hunter Brown, I
think if he's the first one out the gate, he

(01:48:58):
would say, no, give it to me, especially we got
a chance.

Speaker 1 (01:49:01):
Close this out, let's go.

Speaker 7 (01:49:02):
Yeah, there you go?

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
So did you just to time it out depending on
it and knowing what you're looking for, but yeah, you
gotta have four and you better have four strong, no doubt.
Well they keep pitching this way.

Speaker 6 (01:49:12):
Definitely can hope for good things and believe that good
things can come their way. Ryan, See you're right there,
Brandon two. You want to join them seven one three
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Speaker 1 (01:49:35):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:49:36):
This is this Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 1 (01:49:39):
Yeah, just so, your go to is Donna Summer.

Speaker 9 (01:49:41):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:42):
Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, easily.

Speaker 6 (01:49:44):
You're in the ballpark there, so I mean you could
be right. I mean there's some sort of like degrees
of separation at that point. Absolutely, so good call, do you? Yeah, Well,
you know, I try to connect the dots as best
I can. Sean, the Strows they feel excited, so fans
do because they're fifteen and thirty four on the season.
They beat the Cubs just day two to nothing, and
they take two out of three in that series. How

(01:50:05):
about the Rockets, They got reason to be excited because
Jabari Smith Junior extended five years, one hundred and twenty
two million. According to reports, someone three two one two
five seven ninety is the number to get in Ryan
up in Montgomery. He wants to weigh in Ryan.

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
Good morning, Morton Fellas.

Speaker 22 (01:50:24):
I want to start by saying, I try to go
to tailgaters this weekend, but my son is cutting teeth,
so I didn't want to go on a date with
a pissed offtero dactyl as a third wheel.

Speaker 19 (01:50:32):
I'm gonna try to get out there.

Speaker 6 (01:50:33):
There's there's there's plenty, there's plenty of people there that
I assume that I assure you would be louder than
he would.

Speaker 9 (01:50:39):
Yeah, probably were not wrong. Uh So I showed up
late to the party. I apologized. I caught a little
bit of the Steve.

Speaker 22 (01:50:48):
Sparks interview, but I heard you talking about finding at
Lancet Callers where he needs to build off of, and
I just think he's he's already has to be having
these conversations with the pitching staff right like there's no
way to not happening. That being said, he's a professional athlete.
I'm not going to say you pretend like I know
what I'm talking about, But at what point do you
start having very honest conversations about capabilities and where you

(01:51:11):
fit into this lineup? Because yeah, I know people have
bad outings, that's one thing, But I feel like this
is becoming more of a trend that we're seeing far
too often. And I'm just wondering y'all's opinion on at
what point do you start saying, hey man, maybe it's
a bullpen thing, maybe you need to work on some
other stuff in triple A or whatever it might be.
When does that happen? And I'll hang up and listen.

Speaker 6 (01:51:33):
I appreciate the call, Ryan, I mean, I think that
it's kind of the same mold of what we were
looking for after he had the rough outing against the
Reds and mccullor's had that line this weekend that I
guess the NL Central is just my daddy, because it
was the redscheme where he couldn't even get out of
the first inning, and then it was the rough first

(01:51:55):
inning that you're able to get out with just one
run given up, but then it was the fourth inning
that can got away from Lance mccullor's junior. My answer
would be, if you see this in the next start
or the start after that, or anything else, that he's
pretty much give you know, he's pretty much run out
of any more lives to have. If he has another

(01:52:15):
outing like this. If he does, then I think you
do have to start having those conversations.

Speaker 1 (01:52:19):
Oh, I think there's more life. It just depends on
if it says a starter on a regular basis, it's
going to be one of your five guys. I think
in Ryan's correct. I think this conversation, if it has
already had to be had, had to be had, already
had to have taken place, or it's fluid, fluid to
the point where I don't think it's a stone cold
lead pipe lock that he's entrenched into your third or

(01:52:42):
fourth starter. I just don't, and I'm not sure that.
I mean, maybe the organization does. But this organization has
been extremely patient with players and allowing them a Bray
you I'm talking I ain't talking about Brian Abrad you
to work through it, Josea brad you, Christian Walker working
through it. Over the course of time since I've been here,

(01:53:02):
They've been patient, allowing players to play their way through
it and at times pitched their way through it. But
they will have to make hard decisions as they roll along,
saying where is it best served not just for Lanceomac Colors,
but for our organization and for this team. And for
twenty twenty five, No one, I'm not worried about lance
mc colors in the spring of twenty twenty six. Sorry,
I'm just not. Just like I'm not worried about what

(01:53:24):
Garcia is bringing next year. We'll deal with that when
next year comes. I'm worried about this team right now
and how we're going to do it and get it
done now. And so the simple question that'll answer at
all and we got to take feelings after And I
don't know the answer to this yet, because is Saturday
closer to lanceo mc colors or is the twelve strikeout closer?
I want to think the twelve strikeout is. But where

(01:53:45):
is he in the middle of this? What is he
at the fifty mark? Is he leaning towards Okay, he's
one of our guys. We're gonna he's he's headed in
the right direction. Or man, We've got to rethink some
of this to find out how much we can get
out of him and where he's most effective for now
we'll have twenty twenty six or what goes on for
this team to win a World Series? It's real simple.
Where do you make us better? It's not a hard

(01:54:07):
one and in the process, you're trying to work it back,
and we know he wants to and we know where
he's best when he's good as a starter, But as
far as his impact on this team today and going
forward this year, the simple question among all of them
has got to be not worried about somebody's feelings hurt
or that is, does he give us the best chance

(01:54:28):
to win when he starts? And is he one of
our going forward? Can you envision where we get to
the playoffs and we get in the long series and
we need four stars. Is he one of them? And
that's obviously going to be made as the season goes on,
but you've got to decide before then. It can't be
an experimental phase when when September gets here, you just can't.
Experiments are done matter of fact that you start to
creep toward. So you've got to find and then get

(01:54:49):
settled in. So everybody once again defining the role. What's
his right now it's a starter, you have a couple
more starts like this, that conversation will heat up about
where his best stuff. Is it best to get him
for a couple of innings and long relief. Maybe maybe
it's the spot start, and maybe he's the spot starter
and starts once in a while, but we got him
in a bullpen because man, if you haven't figured him out,

(01:55:11):
you don't get a second or third bat to do it,
and sometimes early in it. So to me, Lance mccolors,
while it's a work in progress, we know what he's
brought to the past, but the pass is behind us
now in the injuries. He's here supposedly healthy, let's see.
But it's a simple question for me do going forward?
What gives our team the best chance to win in
these circumstances, and he seems pretty versatile to be able

(01:55:35):
to do both. I can't take feelings into account. I
got to take what's best for our team. And if
he's not one of those guys, if there's question marks,
then that can't be a question in September. You've got
to solidify that either he does by his performance or
they do by their decision, and then you'll live with
it and go forward. But it's a simple one. What
makes us best in twenty twenty five. I'm not worried
about lancemac colors or anybody else in the springtime next year.

Speaker 6 (01:55:56):
B Renelle Blanco five innings. Okay, Blanco, What if it can't,
then you've got to go with somebody else who can, Okay, and.

Speaker 1 (01:56:04):
Then you move him to the bullpen. Right, that's the
question you got asked? Can you be this guy more consistently?
Where are you going to live more? Are we written
the good stuff and you live where it's it's mid
or is the twelve strikeout more like you? But a
couple more starts to find it out. But right now
you're kind of a little bit of a disadvantage because
of the health of your staff. So you you're trying

(01:56:27):
to make it work, and hopefully it will. But at
some point in time, the feelings of anybody on this
have to take a backseat to what's best for all
twenty six cats and in an organization. And I still
think it's a work in progress. I'm not ready to
quit on it, but I am willing to adjust if
in the next couple starts it doesn't look better. Because
the optics were nasty. Yep, No, it's simple. They were bad.

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Speaker 6 (01:58:28):
Some of just the things that happened from over the weekend.
But one of the other things that happened over the weekend,
Sean is last week we get the news that Jeremy
Pania is going to go with Scott Boris as his
new agent. So of course people start to believe, all right, well,
play out the string of years with Pania and then
we'll see him go somewhere else and it'll be somebody
else at Shortstop for the Astros. But yesterday Astros GM

(01:58:52):
Dana Brown with Robert Ford and the crew on Astro Launch,
and that question was asked to Dana Brown about Jeremy
Pania and listen to, uh, listen to the tone of how.

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
He talks about that situation with the Astro Shortstop.

Speaker 13 (01:59:08):
What it will not change is it will not change
us making an effort to get Jeremy signed long term.

Speaker 9 (01:59:16):
Here.

Speaker 13 (01:59:17):
We know that sometimes it could be difficult, uh to
sign guys, you know, because you know when they use
Boris as a representation, you know oftentimes they go to
free agency, right and so, but it will will not
stop us from trying to get something done, so I uh,
you know, called Boris like right away when he let

(01:59:38):
us know that he's representing them, and just you know,
had an initial conversation and told him, look, we're still
interested in signing Jeremy long term and so you know,
we'll be in touch and we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:59:49):
How that works out.

Speaker 6 (01:59:51):
Tone and tenor does that sound like when he was
talking about Alex Pregman. Does that sound like when I'm
trying to remember anybody else.

Speaker 1 (02:00:00):
I can tell you who it sounds like because I
asked on this show about Kyle Tucker's contract and if
they were going to get it done, and then Dane
at the time, and I think and he believed it,
and I'm with him one hundred percent. He simply said,
we're going to make Kyle Tucker an astro for life.
We probably pulled that up and he was very adamant
and confident about it. Now things changed. But the key

(02:00:22):
here is, and he's telling the truth. I think they made.
They made the effort that they were within the parameters
that Dana Brown had to work. They made the effort
try and keep Kyle Tucker. When they realized it was
going to be too big, you traded him smart moved
to go get it now it looks brilliant. Instead of
paying for hun in fifty million bucks, you got a
right fielder who is under a rookie contract. You got
ConTroll them for a while. You're not paying for it
fifty million dollars right now, who's going to give you? Well,

(02:00:44):
it appears he set it towards similar production if this
assent continues. But Dana was adamant on this show live
and I even repeated it. I said, so you're saying
they wanted to make him an Astro for life. Unfortunately,
with agents and stuff get involved. So that was a
plan and a plan all find and Danny until maybe
a detour comes in or a different agent. So I

(02:01:05):
think he's one hundred percent like that Tony Tenny talking
about that they have every intention like Kyle Tucker of
keeping Jeremy Panya, I would think that. I love the
fact that Dan admitted, well, we made a call right away,
that's his agent. Let him know. Open it up that
we're not shutting this off because Boris's reputation, the Astros
have a reputation. When you get the free agent, we're
not paying you that kind of money. That's been a

(02:01:25):
business model, and now Dana trying to bridge that gap
to let him know just because you're his agent and
we respect you, doesn't mean you're sprinting somewhere else. Because
you've represented quite a few guys that are here and
or part of this here, right, and whether they've stayed
or gone alto Vas of Boriskay, Right, he is, so
is McCalla Colors. We know the others that have left Korea, right, No,

(02:01:49):
Korea was not Was he was cream or was he No?
I'd have to look. I think Kara was Bregman, Right.
Isn't Bregman a Boris guy? Yeah, So he's had both.
So I love that, Danta says an I think Dana had.
The intention is absolutely it'll get tougher. It will get
tougher to Hunter Browns of Scott Boris guy, They're gonna

(02:02:11):
face that at some point. It'll get tougher. The better
page your plays, it's gonna get tougher. You got the
best or the most what's the best for the best,
he's been the best. He's been the best over as
far as getting people money, you've been the best made
agent in baseball or the one that can get every
ounce out of the turn up. But and so, but
to keep it open is fine. But the better playing

(02:02:33):
your plays, the more people are gonna be interested, the
more money that's on the table, you're gonna have to
face that. So I one hundred percent believe that Dana's
intentions are we want him here and again and to
extend him and make him an astro for a long time.
But there's a lot of factors involved. But I do
like the fact that he kept that at least the
communication lines open. That because you're Scott Boris doesn't mean
we're backing off from a guy we love and want

(02:02:54):
to be here. So there's gonna be certain things that
I hate to say it that Dana Brown's not gonna
be able to because of if the money grows past
his ability to sign him and then the history is
move on. But if if Jim Crane signs off, no
matter says you keep him here regardless of what it takes, well,
God bless him, and that's a great thing. So we'll
see what happens there. But I don't I don't think

(02:03:16):
there's any lie or any like oh that's not going
to happen. I believe that they all believe that that's
going to happen. But Scott Morris is a he negotiates
a little different, So you do have to face the
fact that while they want him here, that he may
not be if he continues this.

Speaker 6 (02:03:31):
It seems to me that from listening to Dana, you
know what we just heard, there is a mutual interest
to get something done. That's that's what it feels like.
And I think the other part, as you mentioned Hunter Brown,
is we have a good discussion here, we get something
done here, then that gets the wheels moving on him.

Speaker 1 (02:03:49):
You're one hundred percent correct, Dan, And you know how
we I think Dana. I think Dana should be in consideration.
I think the last couple of years he's done an
amazing job. Not because on the show we talked about it.
We've had we all have. We don't have to agree
with everything he says, and he doesn't have to agree
with the questions that are asked. He's been great to us,
and in truth, he's the way he's operating under these circumstances.

(02:04:09):
How can you not say he's in the executive of
your argument right now? You you absolutely have to, But
now you hit what you said that they well, what
was your point about Danny Brown with a hundred, that
they're that they wanted the good intentions, they want to
sign him and all and all. That's all. You're exactly right,
those good intends This relationship helps you with the other relationship,
of course it does, But in truth does it when

(02:04:32):
all is settled in? Do you really believe that Payna
and Hunter Brown together are going to have anything to
do with how Boris deals with this organization or how
they sign him. It's not. I mean, fine and dandy,
it's it sounds great and I'm with you, but the
reality of it is both of these cats right now
are on an assent that they are in the best

(02:04:54):
of the best in their positions in Major League Baseball.
I can tell you one thing, you know hard, it's
going to be signed both similar ages, right, yeah, similar so,
and I don't know that we'd have to look. I
don't have in front of you about you know, when
it comes to fruition. My point is, I think their
intentions are to keep their best players and to do it.

(02:05:14):
But let's look at reality. Reality is, regardless of your
relationship and good intentions and all that, we're opening up
the lines of communication. Didn't they say that about Didn't
we have the same feeling about Korea, Lines of communication,
all of it. I'm talking about both. It's not just
the astros. The lines of communicates good to keep them open.
I don't think that Paynia and Hunter Brown dealing with

(02:05:35):
the same agent and dealing with the astras have zero
to do with Oh, you got Painia, So so I'll
give you a Hunter Brown for a million less. That
ain't gonna happen, dude, It's just not.

Speaker 6 (02:05:45):
No's how He's not going to allow for emotions to
come into this. But you know, with Hunter Brown, he's
entering into arbitration year number one, so he would be
a free agent a year after Painia.

Speaker 1 (02:05:57):
Right, So in the same they'll be under if you
sign THEMOL long terms five six, seven years. They're in
the same umbrella of a pace gain right, the same area.

Speaker 6 (02:06:06):
So I think the thought is that you seem like
you were having those conversations already with Pania, is that
maybe you are a little bit further down the field
to get it done. So then you get that done
and maybe you can avoid arbitration with a guy who
right now is making eight hundred and seven thousand two.

Speaker 1 (02:06:23):
Now try to get one early. That becomes a bargain later,
and then if you can get the other one, and
it becomes he's making a lot of money at least.
And it kind of fits kind of with your not hell,
if you're not us healthy. You waited and got till
the end of it and got him towards free agency,
and he had his numbers produced, and dude, he breaks
the bank. So you got out in front at least
to buy some time there, and you know what I mean.
And same thing here. But all these things happen, and

(02:06:45):
while good intentions matter, you still got to deal with it.
And Hunter Brown ain't worried about the money somebody else
getting paid. He wants on his team. But when it
comes to him, he and Bors's gonna take care of
he and Boris and obviously Hope and make it great
for the organization. But what I'm saying is I don't
think the two matter. I think they're both individually going
to have to compartmentalize when you deal with it.

Speaker 6 (02:07:05):
Six years twenty five per for Hunter Brown. You offer
that to him right now, he'd be crazy enough to
take it. He's making eight hundred and seven thousand dollars
right now.

Speaker 1 (02:07:13):
Yeah, I mean, I get it. I get it, man,
these players, some of them are betting on themselves. Sometimes
it works, sometimes it doesn't. I would love that if
he'd say yes, that'd be great. The question is what
is his agent telling about what they think his value
will be if this continues. And all of them, Payne
and Hunter Brown, damn well know they think it's going

(02:07:33):
to continue, because that's why they're good players. Aside from
being talented, they work and they're confident in what they do.
So this doesn't feel for Hunter Brown and Jeremy Peney.
I don't think they're thinking, yeah, let me get it
right now, because I'm not sure I can do this
rest of my car. I think they're both thinking, you
better get me while the getting's good, because I am
going to hammer the bank, not the Astros. I'm sure

(02:07:54):
they both love to be here with the culture, but
I know this. Everybody wants to get there if it's
within a certain amount. One thing. If there's millions apart
Bregman Korea, guess what they do. They move on and
let's not very part of this. Even though he's not
a I don't think he's a Boris guy. There's a

(02:08:14):
guy coming to It's it's come come to Jesus time
with the left hander who's pitching. Well, you're gonna be
facing that before you face any of it. That's got
to be the priority first to figure out what you're
gonna do with him as we go to the second
half of the season, because I got news for you.
Ain't trading his ass. That didn't happen because you're going
all in on a world series. So you're gonna have
to face that long before Paynia and Hunter Brown get addressed. Yeah,

(02:08:37):
both Paynia and Brown.

Speaker 6 (02:08:38):
If they get to arbitration this year, even if they
avoid it, that's at least ten million dollars per guy.
Oh yeah, So I mean that's why with with Brown,
I feel like you get that offer in front of
him quickly and you avoid that. Then the question is
will Scott Bors be the one reaching out or as
he said back and say, we wear no rush.

Speaker 1 (02:09:00):
You know what I'm saying. But the client's always got
to buy into Boris because there's times I'm sure the
client said, no, dude, take yeah, be patient, dude, we're
going to get what we need to get. Be patient,
and that can be tough. But I always say I've
said on this a million times and maybe the ath
some athletes want it this way. The agent works for you.
You do not work for the agent. Yeah, you pay

(02:09:21):
the agent. You're four to six whatever it is, your percentage,
you're paying him. You pay him. He doesn't have you know,
he's not the guy when the decision comes down. You
employ him. He doesn't employ you. Now, he can choose
not to take you on as a client, but once
he takes on, you're paying him a big time salary.
With the money you make to take care of your stuff.

(02:09:42):
You make the decision. That's why when I all blame
it on the agent. Yeah, well, if you're a grown
ask man and you're the one who hired him, don't
give him power of attorney. You make the decision, and
then the agent has to live by that. But he
can be tempting to just sit there and let him
run the show because he's had such success getting guys
like Soto paid the lot of money. We'll see in

(02:10:04):
a perfect world from ber Hunter, Brown and Jeremy Painter
all here, and in the realistic world, the chances are slim,
and I won't say none but that'll take a lot
of doing and a little bit of a step outside
of business model, wouldn't you If this is the assent
for all three of these guys at this level continues.

Speaker 6 (02:10:24):
Astro is gonna have some money to spend after this offseason.
Because you get Montero, you get to break you off
the books. And then the other rule that you know
is obviously one that you put on the side of
the refrigerator.

Speaker 1 (02:10:33):
Never give away power of attorney. Rocky found that out.
You shouldn't do that at any point in time in
your life until it's on the bed and somebody else
needs to take over. Yeah, and these athletes that do
it find themselves about twenty five million dollars less rich
when they're done. If they get with the wrong scum.
They don't have to. That's not boris. But there are
some out there that have stole plenty of money from
athletes given power attorney. Ray to anybody, when you're that

(02:10:56):
bad idea and you want to wash your hands of
any responsibility, I'll let him think about it all. Don't
get to a point when the decision has made you
keep that power or you're you're you're you're going down
a road that that's that's fall off a cliff. That's
a bad idea.

Speaker 6 (02:11:11):
Saw something over the weekend that just goes to show
you that the football off season it's just too long.
We'll talk about it here. It is the Sean Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 9 (02:11:27):
Now back to Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (02:11:30):
Brandon. Good morning, Brandon, Good.

Speaker 16 (02:11:32):
Morning, Trying, Good morning Dan.

Speaker 9 (02:11:33):
How are you.

Speaker 16 (02:11:36):
Hey? I was at the game saurday.

Speaker 6 (02:11:40):
It was a rough one, Brandon. Well, yeah, hope hopefully
you didn't stick it out too too long after the
fourth inning?

Speaker 16 (02:11:47):
Yeah, did you hear what happened to Chicago fan?

Speaker 1 (02:11:52):
No, what happened?

Speaker 16 (02:11:56):
They he the security put out?

Speaker 1 (02:12:00):
Was there someone being unruly? Yeah, okay, that's no good.
We don't want that.

Speaker 16 (02:12:09):
Yep, hey almost got kicked out.

Speaker 6 (02:12:12):
Well, I mean, if they did, it sounds like they
would have been warranted in doing some man. I didn't
see it. I didn't hear about it. I hadn't seen
any videos.

Speaker 16 (02:12:22):
I mean, no, they he almost got kicked out, But well,
I know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:12:26):
I'm just saying like, I yeah, I mean, I gotta
take your word for it. I have no idea.

Speaker 16 (02:12:32):
Anyway. I'm happy about the Barry Smith Jr.

Speaker 6 (02:12:38):
Yeah, it's a good it's a good deal by the
Rockets to be able to lock up a guy that
clearly they they believe is part of the future plans.

Speaker 16 (02:12:47):
Yeah. Hey, I'm happy about the.

Speaker 1 (02:12:52):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (02:12:52):
They excited about him too, Brandon. It's it's an exciting
time to be a Houston sports fan.

Speaker 16 (02:13:00):
Sewn. Anyway. Anyway, Uh, who's pitching tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (02:13:06):
Tomorrow?

Speaker 6 (02:13:06):
I think it's Colton Gordon. I need to go back
and check, but I think it's gonna be Gordon.

Speaker 16 (02:13:14):
Hey, did you do the Tampane Show or that Chris
Gordy did?

Speaker 6 (02:13:18):
Gordy did it yesterday, so yeah, he had it yesterday,
and then it was Ross on Saturday.

Speaker 16 (02:13:25):
So who Who's gonna do it during the Boston Series.

Speaker 6 (02:13:29):
Uh, they're gonna take on the Rockies. I think it's
gonna be a lot of uh Matt and Ross doing
it this week.

Speaker 16 (02:13:39):
Hey, if you see Matt, I tell him tell him
I missed Nicole, you know, yesterday, not yesterday on Friday Friday?

Speaker 1 (02:13:49):
Gotcha? All right, man, We'll pass that along. We'll talk
to you later, all right, Brandon, Okay, I appreciate it.

Speaker 16 (02:13:57):
And today when I said.

Speaker 1 (02:13:58):
Hi, you got it, man any for you.

Speaker 6 (02:14:03):
Football's offseason and the excitement that everybody seems to give
themselves during the off season. Tys Simpson is going to
maybe be the quarterback at Alabama. The Manning Passing Academy
happening over the weekend down in Thibodaux, Louisiana. Everybody's losing
their mind over this throw that Ty Simpson made. And

(02:14:23):
I guess it was sixty yards in the air, whatever
it was. But Sean, I mean, you coach quarterbacks.

Speaker 12 (02:14:29):
You know that.

Speaker 6 (02:14:30):
You know the the underwear Olympics. That is the off
season of everybody in shorts and T shirts. And you
see videos like this, and I understand that it can
make people excited for potential, but when you see things
like that, are you just kind of like, Okay, it
was a nice throw, but it means nothing in the
long run.

Speaker 1 (02:14:49):
Every Division one quarterback in this country in a pair
of shorts and a T shirt. I'm not listen. I've
coached the Manning Passing Academy. It's all some great time.
They're doing great things a ton of kids, and the
kids love it because the college counselors are their coaching them.
I mean, the college quarterbacks, counselors, their former coaches, players,

(02:15:10):
all this are there and the mannings it's a great,
a great event, and it's you know, it's it can
with the people that are waltzing around there. It's you know,
hanging down. These said their heroes are there and the
quarterback they want to go in there. Kid is going
to be a junior, right, kid is going to be
a junior in high school? Right? Or people who watched
Simpson play in high school now they're like, man, I

(02:15:32):
can't wait to go to Alabama. That kid's all. I
get it all, but we we got We see it
all the time at the combine. We see it in
a guy's private workout. Zach Wilson is the perfect example
of that. Is that I don't know many quarterbacks in college.
We're to the point now, I got well, I train
a handful of high school guys can drop back and
throw its fifty five sixty yards halfway through their warm

(02:15:54):
up and landed to a receiver running down the right side.
First off, we never have to throw a ball unless
it's a broken play. Ever, we'll never throw a ball
sixty yards unless it's a scramble. A hail Mary or
you're scrambling around. Have to make plays and you have
to do it like Cordell Stewart did years ago, Doug
Flutie did against Notre Dame. Scramble around by time and
throw it seventy two yards. That those are nice, but

(02:16:17):
or when you got to throw it from the thirty
five yard line for a hail mary. Yes, but in
a drop back throw and it's Brian Billick did a
study on this. It was like, forty four yards is
the perfect throw? Five yards on the sideline on a
go route. I don't even know it was. It just
a deep momb on the right. Then throw a drop
back throw five and a hit post. Yeah, you throw
five or a big post, whatever it is. So you're
throwing the ball down there, it's forty four yards in

(02:16:39):
about in drifting five yards fading him to the sideline.
You're rarely on a deep ball when you drop back
throw on time to a receiver run and scoed one
two three, four five or from the gun one two three,
hitch and throw. It's a forty five forty seven, forty
four yard throw and then they run after the catch.
That's all fine, And I know it looks good and
everybody hypes because on video. Make no mistake, I doubt

(02:17:01):
that there's a starting quarterback well in the NFL. I
know there's not, but a starting quarterback in the in
college football at a Division I school that can't drop
back and throw at fifty five sixty yards and hit
a guy and striding shorts and a T shirt. It's
fun and it's all hype and hyperbole. It's every everybody
I know that plays a position. I'm coaching a bunch
of them. Now, there's sixteen seventy you can make the throw? Now,

(02:17:23):
can you make the throw under the reskt and hit
the mouth and then make a deep dig throw and
come back and hit this and make that throw? Those
are fine, But can you make a curl route throw
fifteen times over the course of Oh, you're thirteen out
of fifteen under eleven on eleven Druss? It's fine because
offseason I get the I get it, but let's not
make a big deal over it because the four guys
behind him at Alabama can do the same thing in
shorts and a T shirt. I assure you lower those expects.

(02:17:46):
Don't put that pressure. Hey through its sixty yards in
a manning camp and shorts and a T shirt, and
he's going to be a great player. He may be
a great player. It'll have absolutely nothing to do with
sixty yard throw in a pair of shorts and a
T shirt and a camp. Not playing eleven on eleven. Hell,
I damn near maybe still be able to do that now.

(02:18:06):
I can't move it for squat. I ain't gonna run it.
But my point is is that we make a big
deal over it and the expectations. Judge, I'll find out
what kind of skill set of guy's got eleven on eleven.
All of them look good in shorts and a T shirt.
They can all throw it.

Speaker 6 (02:18:21):
Remember, kids, you're always working eleven on eleven. It's never
routes on air. You heard it here first.

Speaker 1 (02:18:27):
Never routes on air, because if you're just throwing it
to throw it, those are wasted reps. Why the why
is always why are you throwing that ball to that
curl route? If you're playing eleven on eleven, you'll have
an answer for me. You're always thinking football if you're
playing routes on air and it's me throwing to no defense,
I don't think on Sundays or Saturdays, did we play.

(02:18:51):
Did we play routes on air? I do believe there's
eleven defenders you've got to deal with just a hunch.
I don't think I've seen a game like that unless
it's a Pro Bowl seven on a flag football gold
medal game. Seven on seven could ruin a guy too
if you're taking bad reps because you don't understand the
process of a pass rush. But good reps matter. Scared
money don't make money. Empty reps don't aren't good reps.

(02:19:14):
So there you go and throwing it fifty five or
sixty yards to a guy in shorts and a T shirt. Thanks,
But it's every swinging unit that plays can make that throw.

Speaker 6 (02:19:24):
What if I were to tell you that something that
people perceive to be a concern is actually a really
good thing, And I'll explain that here as we continue
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Speaker 6 (02:21:07):
The seven ninety listener line here in the nine o'clock
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it is more popular than it has ever been. Leagues
are willing to embrace such properties now. I mean you
can't watch a game now without seeing live odds or
you know, some sort of daily fantasy play, whatever it

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might be.

Speaker 1 (02:21:28):
It's it's part of the fabric now. I mean it
comes with the house. Yep.

Speaker 6 (02:21:31):
It's in the NFL, it's in Major League Baseball, it's
in the NBA. Well, Malik Beasley is one of the
top free agents this offseason, and he is part of
a federal investigation right now because what got this started
was a prominent sports book which was not named in
the story reportedly detected unusual betting activity on Beasley props

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as are in early twenty twenty four. It was actually
January of twenty twenty five for when it was a
game between the Bucks and the Portland Trailblazers where Beasley
was recording less than two and a half rebounds, and
it moved significantly before the game, going from around plus
one twenty to minus two fifty after an under experienced

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a high amount of action and Beasley that night recorded
six rebounds. Now, his attorney has told ESPN an investigation
is not a charge and that my client has afforded
the same right to presumption of innocence as anyone else.
The NBA says they are cooperating with federal prosecutors on
this case. Now, some people might look at this and say,

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see with you know, gambling just everywhere, Now this is
going to happen. You're going to have you know where
you know guys are on the take again, guys you know,
shave points, whatever it might be. I go the opposite way.
It's reasons like this or why they're not going to happen.
Because the sports books is for anybody that as any

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type of notion about them. Whenever they see things like this,
they immediately somebody comes up and you know they they
can track you.

Speaker 1 (02:23:08):
They know what your action is. The sports books and
the way they track it, in the way the NFL
or NBA or Major League Baseball will and can and
does track it is not to be messed with. I'm
just telling you. And when you wake up and you
think that you can beat the system, they will find you.
It always does, and they they're looking and the more
attention meaning okay, let's say gambling and betting is legal

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in all fifty states, they're gonna be on high alert too,
because they don't want to get cheated. They don't want
to The books don't want to get cheated either. They
don't want you to start to collude with your guys,
say hey, do this, do this, do this. Then they're
they're losing because when it comes to the bottom line,
like most business, they're gonna make they're gonna protect their
they're protecting them and in the process they're gonna protect
the player from the self. I am completed in complete

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agreement with you, in disagreement that because somebody like you
can find it if you want to do it. They'll
just go get a bookie and if they're dumb enough,
they'll do it themselves.

Speaker 4 (02:24:03):
And know that.

Speaker 1 (02:24:03):
I mean, if they're that dumb and get found out.
I don't know what Beasley did and that's why I'm
not going to bury him yet til I know his
lawyer is exactly correct. He does deserve being investigated. Doesn't
mean you're guilty. That's we automatically think, whoo, whether's smoke,
there's fire, and in some cases there may very well be.
It'd be hard for me to believe. And then again,
it's not hard because we've seen some stupidity, and I

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understand the hypocrisy of the pro sports about gambling and
then having sponsors on outfield walls or on you know
what I'm saying, or on uniforms or whatever we're doing. Now,
there's a bit of hypocrisy there. They're getting rich off
the billions and getting on you for betting on a
fantasy team eight bucks. Okay, as a player, but I
get it. It's said the rule is set, so you
got to live by it, and it's basically a law

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in pro sports as we've seen. But when it comes
to this, they will find you if there's active, if
there's activity that hasn't been going on, Hey, your bank
can find if it's that's weird activity, you weren't in
that state, distay, and you can't use your debit card
in the next day over because yesterday you're using it
in a grocery store and they flag it and they
let you know, and you're like, oh, now you've got
to go through the hassle of Okay, I gotta wait too.

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It's a pain in the ass. But they watch it
for a reason. Even sometimes you feel like you got
to tell them you're traveling. So it's're not getting gas
in five different states. But in this same thing, dude,
it's they listen, start talking about golf and on your phone,
on your phone, a golf ads going to show up.
It just is start talking about so on this and

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you're actually putting it in that They know how to
track these that's what they do, and they pay people
a lot of money to do it. So I don't
know what Beasley did, and he deserves the right for
us to find out the truth. If he did do it,
you can't be any dumber than that. Yeah, I don't
care if it was one hundred bucks or a hundred
thousand bucks. You can't be there. I know I'll beat
this system because if there's crazy movement, they look in

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and then all of a sudden there's a trail. There's
always a trail. That act that said, they do it
when you're setting there in person, and do it if
you're sitting there and you're away from it, do it there.
And I don't the reason I said him, but any
of us would be dumb to say, hey man, I
think I'm gonna do this and change this and and boom,
it's a flashing neon light for them. And then you
know what they do. They dive deeper. And once that

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dive starts, brother, if you're guilty, they will get you.
So we can have all the argument we want on
the hypocrisy of pro sports at times with this. But
on the other side, I'm with you. If you're gonna
if you're gonna gamble and you're addicted to it, you're
gonna do it whether it's available to you a mile
away or one hundred miles away. But the more you
start to see this appen, players get scared thinking and

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I'm gonna lose twenty five million dollars. What if they
suspend me, kick me out a league. Yeah, it's it's
not why. You don't need to do that. And if
you ever were going to try to cheat the system,
I'm not giving him any ideas, but there's a way
to do it without you punching a button yourself, or
could just just silly, right, silly, don't try to beat
their system because over the long haul, they're gonna get you,

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and when it's a crazy movement, they'll get you. And
as a pro athlete, there's the risk is not worth
the reward. There's two fail saves here.

Speaker 6 (02:27:03):
Number one, as I said, they're really good at seeing
when it looks like something is afloat, in no question.
The other as well, as it's a highly regulated industry
that is very good at not giving away their money.

Speaker 1 (02:27:17):
Not a dime, okay. They they know how to make
it and they know how to keep it, and they
know how to prevent from them getting hammered with it.

Speaker 6 (02:27:26):
And there's people who deal with sharps that have a
lot of money. Those people I've found out over the weekend,
they get different odds.

Speaker 1 (02:27:34):
Of course they do, because you're willing to put your
put in more yes, those guys who move the line
and change the whole course of it. Yes, they get
different odds. And that's why you'll see these big sports
betters shop their their services to certain I want this one,
I want this, and I want this, and well what
am I getting on this? Oh we'll give you an
extra half a point. Oh cool, then you'll take my
ten million bucks. Of course, it's called negotiations in smart business.

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I had one, I mean, and sometimes they lose at
it and they don't get their bonus at their casito
and hope that the next time. Yet the guy that
the very guy that hammers them and beats them because
he's a sharp is the guy they welcome back into
the casito in the sportsbook because they're saying, he got
us one time, and we're gonna get him. But they
do regulate, they watch it closely. If you're ever going
to try to beat a system, guess what, that ain't

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the one. It's just not every little hint, nook and
cranny they will find. I hope Malik Beasley did not
do this, because you don't need that. Number two is
too much. There's too much money for you to make
a couple. And I understand people like the challenge. Find
a different challenge. If that's the case, let's hope that
he wasn't doing that. Get your thrills somewhere else, no doubt.

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All Right, the Astros things have been really good. Just
how good were they over the weekend.

Speaker 6 (02:28:46):
We'll discuss that as we close out the Monday edition
of the Sean Salisbury Shows Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 10 (02:28:53):
Let the celebration start war Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (02:29:00):
Jabari Smith Junior five year, one hundred and twenty two
million dollar extension with the Rockets someone three two one
two five seven ninety. The next three guys to go
for the Astros this week are gonna be Colton Gordon Tomorrow,
Hunter Brown on Wednesday, and then Brandon Walker or Brandon
Walter on not the guy from Barstool, Brandon Walter on Thursday.

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And then you get the Dodgers series where Fromber will
throw during that series.

Speaker 1 (02:29:28):
That almost feels like an LA trip way that's over
the July fourth weekend, and uh uh man, that'd be
a fun trip. Really wouldn't, even though I mean, you
know it's I know you're getting on a plane and
all that travel and it's a pain in the ass
because there's so many p It's supposed to be a
record travel weekend or week this week, so I don't know.
Every year they say there's a record of some of

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some sort. But that'd be a fun series to be
at Chavez Ravine watching the Astros and the Dodgers play
over the fourth weekend with fireworks at the stadium. That
would be really cool. It's gonna be anybody that's doing
good on you man, that's all have you seen? Huh Yeah?
Love that cut. But it's a well, they're about to
get a load of seeing the Astros too. This is

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gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun pitching matchups.

Speaker 6 (02:30:12):
Well, it's also I mean, for what you just did
this past week where you beat a Phillies team who's
really good, just took two out of three from the
Braves over the weekend in Atlanta, and then you took
on a Cubs team that was the same as you
record wise, and you were able to take two out
of three from them and able to have a good
amount of offense on Friday, not so much on Saturday,

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in just enough yesterday.

Speaker 1 (02:30:35):
Yeah, and you know what's great too, is that. Don't
kid yourself. The Dodgers know who these astros are, and
so does major League Baseball. Maybe we had a question
early of what they were gonna be like this year.
They know exactly what you're in for, as does everybody
else in both the American and National League, of what
you're getting out of these astros. And there's a different

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I mean, they've always had this great grind. There's a delivererent,
a different belief for me and them. I don't know
what it is, and I'm trying to put my finger
because I don't know. From my point of view, good
pitching and all the stuff that's obvious, but I don't know.
Do I maybe feel like that they're tired of hearing
that they did. Maybe the Ashles get the point where well,
this guy's gone, this guy's gone, and they just keep
going that. It's like, well stay tuned, you know what

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it's weird. Jake Myers, I feel like he got tired
of hearing people say can't hit right. And sometimes I'm
telling you, I know in mic it is a factor.
And when you say, well, don't listen to people say
some people we just you hear whether you want to
or not, because somebody will make sure they let you know.
But I don't know. There's just a different for me,
a different confidence about this team. I don't know if
maybe the bullpen makes me feel a security blanket. I

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don't know. If it's just that guys continue to elevate
their play. I don't know if it's just the emergence
of Jake Myers and Paynya and camp Smith among others
that make you feel like damn. But it's almost as
if they and you know what, there's not a whole
lot of and I don't mean this disrespectful. How often
is this team and I know we love it. Does
this team batflip in a third inning home run? Not

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very often, right, Rare? I mean, it's almost their expectation.
This is who we are, man, we're Barry Sanders approach,
We score touchdowns, the ball goes back to referee. Not
that that matters, but there's just it's part of the
whole picture. It almost feels like they expect to do it.
I know exactly what it is.

Speaker 6 (02:32:17):
It's close games late, and if it's in that scenario,
they look at it and say, that's our game.

Speaker 1 (02:32:22):
And what happens when you win close games late and
come from behind and keep closing games out and winning them.
You know what happens is that you I'm telling you
it's a habit. It's no longer I think we can.
It's oh, it's two to one done that. That's how
you feel. And you're more shocked if you lose it
than if you win it and I don't. It's they're

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not supposed I'm just telling you they're not supposed to
be this good this year. They're just not supposed to be.
You can't walk down one after one, one after the
other say oh yeah, I knew this. It's to stop it.
And there was no bigger endorser of cam Smith than me.
And you know this down to the ends of the earth. Endorser.
Do not send it to the minor leagues. Don't waste it.
He's too good and hoping that it comes to fruition.

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There's no way he thought this. You just didn't, myers.
You're eighty points different than what you thought. I'm just
telling you are so pitching. We can go through it,
take a laundry list of it, but they are not
supposed to be doing this.

Speaker 6 (02:33:20):
In the last thirty eight games, cam Smith is hitting
three twenty three. I believe the Astros are twenty six
and twelve.

Speaker 1 (02:33:25):
I'm just testing. And when I say not supposed to,
they're good. But the expectations I mean, being this good,
I just you're not supposed to and it's not easy.
But it's not supposed to feel this easy. Right at
fifty and thirty four. Yeah, it's impressive. You didn't have
this on your card. Man, you had a good and
we'll see. But it's no longer now good. Now we're

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talking to C. Sparks. There's nobody that has They have
less weakness than anybody in the American League. Now, I
want you to fathom that with all these injuries and
what they've run, and Tucker and Bregman are long here.
Oh they everybody in the American League has more weak
This is in the Astros. Now, I want you to
take that to heart. I'll tell you if you had
that plan in April, at the beginning of April, not

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a lot of being going carnival. Yeah, for sure.

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