Beware Of The Hard Sell

In this episode Ray teaches all about the hard sell and how he got roped in to a monthly charity donation due to the hard sell. Lunchbox ran into a very popular NFL player over the weekend and Ray goes over the itinerary for Justin's Birthday Weekend. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, Oh, what a weekend man. I hope you had
a good weekend. Uh does a golf count that counts
as a good weekend?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Man?

Speaker 3 (00:09):
I played Friday, I played Saturday. I chipped on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Wow, you did play a lot. You played by yourself?
Of course all three.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
First day, would they pair me up with somebody? Yeah,
no they didn't. I was right behind some two gen
zers and the kid goes, we'll play fast, man, don't
worry they shoot. I mean they did play fast, but
good god, it went everywhere but straight. I think the
one kid was teaching his friend to Uh. I want
to say Trebeca students.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
That's a university here. Yeah, it's a Nazarene university.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
So they were playing fine where I didn't really need
to pass. Somebody's chilled behind them. I was playing. They
did a couple of things it isn't golf etiquette. Where
they would drive on a green that said green under repair.
They would hit it out of a green where it
said do not hit out of here, drop it to
the right of the zone. They did a couple things
like that. One time the kid took two balls off
the deck after he hit a first good shot and

(01:04):
I started walking my head down and he then hit
the second shot. Oh bro, if it would have been
a bad one, I would have been a dead man.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
It's not good.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Luckily hit a good one. I go, whoa heads up on?
You're taking two off the deck after a good shot? What?
And then the second day, played with the guys for
one hole and they said, just play through. They said,
you're you're awesome. I played obviously the best hole in
my life, and so they thought I was Tiger Woods.
So I cruised. I know him.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
That one hole.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
All their names were Ray. The one guy his name
was like Lee Ray. His son's name was Joshua Ray.
I was Ray. Just a bunch of Rays. I was
the only one that wasn't part of me.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Didn't stay with him. And that feels like a match
made in heaven.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
That's what he said. He goes, you're already basically part
of our family. When the kid got on the hole
number one with a ball half covered.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
In mud, I mean that's going to be a long pick.
We're above that, right, so we know to clean the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
So I played through them and then I played in
an hour, did one fireball. Baser said, hey, my dad
needs your help, Phil. So I had to help Phil,
So I said, all right, one fireball, come pick me up.
But I was good one hour in and out nine
holes one hour. Yeah, fact that you played only nine
holes once again? You Ah, let's see, I played in
golf this weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
No, didn't play golf at all, because when you have
three kids, you cannot play golf on the weekends. That
is like absolutely not possible.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
I saw something on Instagram. They said, when you ask
a dad with kids if he's gonna play golf this weekend, Yeah,
I'm gonna play golf this weekend. I'm gonna just totally
disown three human beings. I'm trying to keep alive and
also try and find something interesting for them to do
while I'm gone for four hours. No, I'm not gonna
play golf this weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
And it's more than four hours on the weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
If you're trying to play eighteen, it's at least five
because the courses are packed on the weekend. So no,
weekend golf is not something I even understand anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
And we got reunited with the Dodds again. It had
been about six good months. She is now a child
they're gonna have a another kid. We saw the van
Zance as well from Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Is Dodd's showing like can you see the child in
the stomach or yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
But I've always been trained you don't really address it.
You just say, oh, hey, I heard you you're pregnant, congrats.
You know, I'm not really like touching the stomach. I'm
not saying phase, don't touch the stomach. I did tell
her she looked great. She was thinking she didn't look good,
and I said, you still look awesome. So I but now,
with body image and stuff, you don't want to say
too much. But I did want her to still know
she looks amazing.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I saw a woman that her son played on our
soccer team a couple of seasons ago. Saw her this weekend,
and it looked to me that she was with child,
and so I didn't know how to approach that subject.
But I just talked about her one kid talk talk talk,
and then she's like, oh, yeah, you know, we're just
excited baby number two. So I was like, oh, oh,

(03:49):
glad to hear it. Didn't even notice.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I was like smart.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
I was like, that's pretty cool. I mean, you know
how far along are you didn't even I couldn't even
tell yoh, whoa, whoa, there is something down there.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
I always look at the hangars.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
When reality I was like right when I walked in,
I was like, oh, I think she's pregnant. But I
didn't bring it up. I just let the conversation flow.
And then she got there. She told me all excited
about it. It's a baby girl to go with the
boy they already have, so boom, really good news.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
I thought you had three boobs for a minute.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
But the one thing is, once this child is born,
they are going to move out of Nashville.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
The kid is breaking the family apart.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
No, they have decided that they're going to move closer
to family. With two kids, they just think it's time
to be back to where grandma and grandpa are so
they can spend more time with the grandkids. So they
will be uprooting from Nashville and moving back to South Carolina.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
That's tough because Nashville is one of the cities you
get used to all the amenities. Taking a step back.
Dad's probably stay in middle management. That's tough. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
I guess maybe they are work from home because I
figure if they're moving to South Carolina. They can't just
are they just both looking for new jobs. I don't
really know what they do, don't know that much about them,
but they have made their mind up that they are
going to vacate the premises of Nashville, Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Everybody works from home. Baser works from home. Her friend
down the road works from home Batter's Box Batters Box.
He also works from home. What if everybody that's next
door neighbors the guy I guess does stocks. Maybe I
need to get a couple tips from him. He's home
every single day, but sometimes he doesn't come out of
his house. That must be when the market turns.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
My question is do people work? Because we got Friday,
we get done ten thirty. I'm all right, I'm gonna
go get some grab a smoothie or something. I go
to the smoothie shop trop hop and there are people
playing sand volleyball at ten thirty am on a Friday.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Jealous.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
I'm like, do you guys not have jobs? It's like,
how do you just go play sand volleyballs in the
middle of a Friday morning?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Makes no sense?

Speaker 3 (05:52):
So annoying. Go to the park.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Guess what tons of people there feeding the ducks Friday morning,
ten thirty. I really, guys, where is your job? What
do you do for a living?

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Did you guys get one of those PRP loans? What
is that? Oh? Businesses got it?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Got it from COVID, and then they don't use it
for what they say they're going to.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Use it for just amazing twenty grand.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, well, it's start the show man.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Ray enough about our nation's economy. All right, we're gonna
do it live. Arnold's off today. We ah the two
great so loser?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
What up, everybody? I am lunchbox.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
I know the most about sports, so I give the
sports facts my sports opinions, because I'm pretty much a
sports genius.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Y'all, it says. And I'm from the North. I'm an
alpha male. I live on the north side of Nashville
with Baser. She was a Broadway girl. I took her north.
It's beautiful, it's awesome. There's amazing shopping malls. There's also
country and farmers. Most own about one hundred acres. We
own two point two acres. It is beautiful, though, and
I'm not selling. I'm not selling. We did go to
one of the strip malls this weekend. And they say,

(07:00):
why the hell are you here, Ray and Bay and
we said, because we live in the country. They said, well,
this whole store is buzzing that you guys are in
here right now. And I said, well, you're gonna see
a lot more of my ass because I live here.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Got a store?

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Was it Belks?

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I've heard of it. I drove by a yesterday at
the mall. It says belks outlet don't know what that
is though.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
It's so it's got You're not Valls or Titans. It's
got good stuff Polos. You're gonna get nice sporties type shirts.
What else did I get there? I got a Valls Polo.
I got a Vol's hoodie thing, which is awesome, awesome,
no bear stuff. It's really like centric to the city
you live in. Okay, What was the other thing? I
got polo that then a long sleeve and then it's

(07:44):
got kind of type fishing stuff dockers. But you can
find good stuff discounted. I learned the hard way that
Vall's polo was not discounted.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Oh, she ringed me up.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
It was one seventy Oh the not the polo for
all three things that Oh, I got shoes too. You
can get dress shoes there that are nice and in style.
I thought we were talking discount, and then she gave
me the price as she was gassing us up and
they go one seventy. Oh okay, so that polo was
on sil gotcha. I maybe taking something back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
So like last Christmas when I was trying to get
something from my mom and I was at one of
those market fairs or whatever, the Christmas fairs where they
have everybody has their boosts, and it's just one booth
that has blankets for sale, shawn booths, and that's like, man, oh,
like you buy a blanket, a blanket goes to the homeless.
I'm like all right, and I'm talking to her like, yeah,
we really helped this a big time of the year
because it's Christmas time. They're cold and they get me going,

(08:38):
get me going. I'm like, you know what, this is
what I'll get.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
From my mom.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
My mom is always cold. She likes to wrap herself
up in a blanket on the couch, homeless. And I'm like,
I'll take that blanket right there and then bring it up.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
I'll mean one hundred and fifty dollars and what it's
one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
I was like, oh, I'm not trying to keep a
whole encampment warm.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
I'm like, damn.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
And then you're you're stuck at that point of oh,
never mind, I don't want it, or do you just
buy it?

Speaker 2 (09:05):
And I just bought it. I just bought it in
a wh and I was like I went back over
to my friends. I was like my wife and then
another couple, and I was like, oh, guys, the blankets
are on hundred fifty dollars.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
They got you at the okie dough.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
They got me with the oakie dog of oh, we're
you know, this is a very important time of year.
You know, the homeless are cold, it's getting cold outside,
it's winter time. They don't And I realized that then afterwards,
is they don't have the price up. There's no price displayed,
because no one would walk up to their damn booth
if they're selling one hundred and fifty dollars blankets.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Parallel.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
And I just sat there and I was like, oh, yeah,
so I paid one hundred and fifty dollars for a
blanket parallel.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
I got a parallel story.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
What does that mean?

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Great segue go. We're at Belks. Got it going in.
There's some salespeople outside, similar to that blanket with no sign. Right, yeah,
you didn't really know the price.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Then I had no idea, but we knew it was
gonna be.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
A hard sell. So Baser fakes a phone call. Good genius,
I love you, and they're kind of talking. I'm on
her other side and they're saying something she did a
phone call totally started a wall. There's no way they
can infiltrate that. We go right into the store. Everything's good.
On the way out, I guess she got a kind heart.
And she goes right up to the booth and talks.
Oh no, and she goes, hey, I'd like to give
you guys twenty dollars for the homeless we saw on there, homeless,

(10:19):
homeless veterans, no less. Oh well, by god, I'm helping
a vet and if he's homeless, I'm double helping him.
Very important. Here's twenty dollars. I'm sorry, we can't take cash.
Oh you can take card. Yes, absolutely, So she starts
entering he her car information. I'm standing there. It's an
eighty five degree day. I'm trying to play some golf,
try and do something and I'm just standing there again.

(10:41):
We avoided it on the way in. Baser then just
totally sends herself into the line of fire and we
get caught up in the way out, and the lady says,
I'll get your information. We're entering on the IPA. Yep,
T yep, middle name T yeah, T for Thomas. Yeah. No,
phone number okay, that too. All right, there's the phone
number we just gave her everything. Lady can go robust
before we can get back to our house. Okay, and

(11:03):
then that will be reoccurring payments every month then no, no, no, no,
whoa whoa whoa whoa. Right, so we were gonna pay
you cash. You said you didn't take cash. We said
we pay a card and she was right. So every
month it'll hit your card for twenty five dollars and
it has to then be completed for a year. Okay, right,
can we just do a one time payment. I'm sorry,
it's a reoccurring payment.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Oh no, so no no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no no no.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
So did we bite on that, oh you bit? No,
we didn't. We I guess the lady she sat there
deleted all our information. Gouble pleasuretries. We were out the door,
but right next to her.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Hey, but that's brave of you. I just sat there
and took it. I mean I took it right in
the face. I was like, oh, you know what, all right?
I mean the blanket, I'll buy one hundredy dollars. I'll
be one hundred dollars a blanket? What what blanket can be?
One hundred and fifty dollars?

Speaker 3 (11:50):
But they found the one way that somebody's not gonna
say yes to it a reoccurring payment. That it's like
a bill. Why in God's green earth way?

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Well, some people like, if you're a partner and hope
you do a monthly donation into Saint Jude.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
So that's basically what they do. They rope you in by.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Oh, here, let me fill out all this information. And
they think that you spent all that time with them
entering your information, that there is no way you are
gonna say, oh no, never mind, I don't want to
do that. And they're thinking, Okay, they're gonna let us
do this. And how many people go home and cancel?
Not as many as you think, because they forget about it.
So they get you for a few months.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
And this is how they really get you. So there's
the lady right there trying to sell the homeless vets.
Right next to her is who would be right next
to her homeless vet? It was a vet. He wasn't
homeless at first. He used to be homeless, right, and
I believe it actually might have been disabled vets. Okay, okay,
And so did basers the same thing. So the guy's
not disabled, and Baser says, oh, I'm so so sorry.

(12:45):
I'm like, oh my gosh, he's not disabled. He was
just a VET. But he's sitting at the disabled vets table.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Oh, so she was like, oh, how are you hurt?

Speaker 3 (12:52):
He goes, She goes, yes, we're here to support homeless
veterans and or disabled veterans, and then goes, I'm so
thank you for your service. And the lady goes and yes,
so this is for disabled veterans, and Baser goes, we
haven't gone through what you have and I'm so sorry
for your injuries. But he was not disabled. Oh but

(13:13):
then oh no, this gets better. That was that was
Onion Peel, one of the ten.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
He goes, do you like sports? I go yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
As a matter of fact, I do. I do a
podcast called the Sore Losers.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
You told him that, right, Yeah, I've carried five Tighter
Ball's shirts. Of course I like sports. He's so you
didn't tell him about the pod, no context clues. He
had something he needed to tell me about. There was
more important. He goes, have you ever heard about the
fail Mary? Have you?

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Nope?

Speaker 3 (13:40):
I'm he said. He said, are you familiar with NFL referees?
And I go yeah, And he goes, do you remember
the fail Mary? And he showed me a picture because
he had his book there.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Okay, and now he has a book.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
He has a book. He's a ref.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
So he's, well, I didn't know this. You just told
me he's a ref.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
He's a veteran, and then he was a ref, and
now he's helping out disabled veterans. But he's not disabled.
And so he holds up a picture and I believe
it was the des Bryant catch at the one yard
line that they said was no catch.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
I didn't realize they called that the fail Mary.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Is what he said. I didn't remember it as the
fail Mary either, And I think he's the guy that
said it was no catch or it was a catch,
and he made the worst call in NFL history. And
that's what he's known for. The des Bryant catch the
one yard line at lambeau Field.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Oh my goodness, did you get his name in?

Speaker 3 (14:27):
It got even better, It got even better. So he
goes so Basers.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
No, it is called the fail Mary. No, that's not
the fail Mary. Is between the Packers and the Seahawks.
It is known as the inaccurate reception on the inter
touchdown reception.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
What in them see?

Speaker 3 (14:47):
I thought it was.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
On the final play of a tightly contested game, seattlerookie
quarterback Russell Wilson threw a hail mary pass into the
end zone intended for wide receiver Golden Tate. Both Tate
and Packers defender M D. Jennings got their hands on
the ball while both players were still in the air
and attempting to gain possession. The two officials near the
play initially gave separate signals of touchdown and touchback before

(15:10):
ruling the players had Simultanelius possession, resulting in a game
winning touchdown for the Seahawks.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
He's one of those refs. Wow, it doesn't look the
same though. He's actually unrecognizable at this point, Okay, I
think he has been doing a lot of couch potato
in the last twenty years.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
What was his name, Derek Roan Dune. What was the
other option, Lance Eastley? Because the.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Side judge, Lance Eastley raised his arms to signal touchdown
while back judge Derek Roan Dunn waved his arms in
a signal to it was Lance Eastley. Okay, he was
the side judge. He's the one that said touchdown.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
And there's his book.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
I want to say he looks nothing like that.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
That is him, but he doesn't look like that.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Got it? And so he tells me about that. I
thought it was a different play, And now I understand
the film. Mary. He goes, well, I have the book
here for you, and I go awesome. So I think
he said sports fan. I think he's gonna then give
me the book. Giving the book it makes you more
entire inclined to pay for the disabled veterans every month.
So he reaches in. He goes, well, I can give
you this for eighteen what dude, you talk about hard

(16:28):
sale five minutes?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Man?

Speaker 3 (16:30):
We both got heart sale real quick. And I go
and he goes, but I can sign it for twenty five, bro,
tell me answer, are both getting hard sold on both ends.
I mean she's taking it up the front. I'm taking
it up the ass. She's turning them down and left.
And then I go, no, man, thanks, and he goes, oh, okay,

(16:51):
so you want you want? I guess the way I
said it. I go all right, thank you, and he goes, okay,
so you want the book? No, no, no, thank you
for your time. We're gonna pass. And so then after
both turning down the hard cells, me and Bezer walk
with our tails behind her legs over to our vehicle
the entire walk path while they're just watching us.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Hold up. So you're telling me the side judge charges
seven dollars extra for his autograph.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, he said he'll sign it for twenty five books
eighteen and his whole his lady, they're an amazing tag team.
Because she was getting him to do the stuff. She goes, hey,
tell him about that play you're involved in, and then
he goes, you ever heard of the failed Mary? And
I go, yeah, it does, Brian. One yard line wasn't
the play. And then she goes, well, tell him about
your book. So she was putting it up on a

(17:35):
t for him. He was drawing me in, banging me
up the ass, and then next thing you know, I'm
out twenty five dollars. Hey.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
His book is called Making the Call, Living with Your Decisions.
You can get it on Amazon for twenty two thirteen
for buy it new.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yep, what I mean?

Speaker 3 (17:59):
He had a backpack full of them. How many sell
I don't know, but that was their thing. He sells
to the guys, the lady pulls the heart strings and
sells to the females. They got a freaking Ponzi scheme.
Not a Ponzi game. They just got one hell of
a sales pitch they got going on. Because we both
almost sold, but we didn't. We got our wits about

(18:20):
us and got the hell out.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Dude, I got hard sold on a book.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Also, please, yes, Hey, we'll take a break and I'll
tell you all about it.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
And it was in the Windy City.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Is everybody just trying to hard sell a book nowadays?

Speaker 1 (18:34):
It was very interesting and it was I don't know
if it was even It had to be planned the
way they did it. I now realize I got hard
sold right now. I just realized that we'll be right back, dude.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
We need to write a book and go hard sell people. Dude,
we're on the shuttle. Can you imagine the convention? Dude?

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Oh, just sell a book to the losers.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Dude, we're just freaking yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Hey, you guys want a book eighteen by it's twenty
five to sign it? What mo Tampa's like, I don't
even know how to read.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Dude. The whole time, it's you and me just trying
to pitch our book at the convention.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, Miguel's like, do you have it in Spanish? Like, no, Miguel,
we don't know Spanish, dude. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Okay, and never mind. Hey, guys, hope you enjoyed the
live podcast. We'll do the next final part on the book.
It's going to be it's buy our book. That'll be
the last thing we're gonna talk.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, if you want to look at chapter twelve, that
is the that's the end of the podcast. Landing Locer,
you know what I mean, Like, no, we don't have
any We don't have We didn't have a judge look
over it and make a ruling.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
No, sorry, loker.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
You guys heard of the failed Mary Well, this is
called the failed Convention.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
He Emily mckimmon.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yes, I cannot donate these books to your classroom. You
need to buy them for your classroom. I know you're
a teacher, but just buy them for your classroom. Have
your brother, he's a good brother. He comes to the
convention too. Let him buy him for you. Anyway, we're
on the shuttle to the rental car place in Chicago.
Leaving the airport. Going to the rental car it's like,
you know, a couple of miles away, been there. And

(20:04):
I'm on the bus and there's like four guys and
one older white gentleman.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
You all want to play Doug Dog Goose.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
And they're all together and they're talking, and the guy
looks at me and goes, oh, what are you guys
here for. I was like, Oh, we're just you know,
little family vacation, come to see Chicago, see my aunt.
We're gonna go to a Cubs game. And I said,
how about you. He goes, Oh, we're speakers. We're here to,
you know, do a speak at Purdue University. And I'm like, oh,

(20:34):
tell me more. I'm man shit, I want to know
what you speak about. And he says, well, I used
to work in the prison. The youth prison, and that's
where I've met all these young gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
My kids are too no.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
No. And he's talking about the guys that.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Are with it, got it, and I'm like oh.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
And he goes and I realized that they needed some guidance.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
What was that there in jail?

Speaker 1 (21:00):
And he said, so I quit the prison and I
started when these guys would be going through the prison system,
I would help them out by giving them a job.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Seventy five percent of people that go to jail return
to jail.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Heard that in church and he goes, then we started
a company together and we've turned their life around. And
he goes like, this one's my oldest guy. You know,
he's been around for you know, twenty years.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
What's it called. Is it a university? No, it's something
that it's No, it's different. It doesn't matter what it's called,
because I honestly just heard about it in church. And
they started this university Valor Okay, where guys can go
to learn while they're in prison. And then they said
the rates dropped to fifteen percent of those guys go

(21:49):
back to jail. But it's decreased people returning into jail
after going.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
To well, let me let me see if my wife's
at home, she can get me the name. Ah man,
hold on because this is important to the story.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
What men of valor prison ministry.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
No, that's not it.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Man, men of valorous committed to winning men in prison
to Jesus Christ and disciplining them. We equipped them to
re enter society. That's what I'm talking.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Hey, I got a question for you.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
You know those guys on the bus in Chicago on
the way to the rental car place, what was the
name of their business?

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Oh? I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Go look, go look in the bedroom, on the floor
or on the on the dresser. I think they got
I think I got that pamphlet thing. I bought the book.
I bought the book, but I can't think of the
name of it.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Check on the wrestler in the like the chester drawers.
Check the toilet or yeah, or right there on the floor,
right in front of it, right next to.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
The toilet's my literature? It's not there?

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (23:13):
On the floor?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Look on the shelf, asked the maid, Am I on.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
The pot right now?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:25):
You're gonna have to edit this out.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
I don't see it.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Oh, man, check on my bedside, it's not there. Did
you check on the Chester jawers it's not well, it
was just a slip of paper that was there.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Did you check the maid's course. Oh no, you bought that,
Like oh oh there.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
The messengers, the messengers, thank you very much. That's all
I got it by.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
Sharing our journeys from incarceration to restoration.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
There you go, the messengers. Okay, thank you, Okay, bye.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
So they're like, oh, we're the messengers and they tell
me about this stuff. And so they were going to
Purdue University to talk about other youth to to talk
to youths about you know, they about breaking the cycle
and not going to prison and there's you know, choices
to make and how their lives have been reformed. And
one kid, he was the youngest one, he was eighteen.

(24:21):
It was his I think it was his third appearance,
third speech at jail. No, no, they're out of jail now.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Third appearance. No no, no, that's not something you brag them. No,
it's his third speech, fourth tour.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
So I'm like, oh, that's cool. And they're like, yeah,
we got a book, you know what I mean. I'm like, oh,
that's cool, and the guy was like, oh, here, why
do you have one? And then one of the guys goes, man,
we can't just give it to him, that's our profits.
And I already have the book in my hand.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Hell of a job by a team of selling.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
And he goes, cause we only have a certain amount
to sell it at what when we go to Purdue tomorrow?
And the guy was like. I was like oh, and
he was like, I mean it's it's fifteen dollars. We're
just giving away.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
They're basically doing a Ciskel and Ebert show, dude.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
And so I'm just on the I'm on the bus
and we're pulling up to the rental car place at
this point and I'm like, oh man, I'm sorry, and
he's like, no, no, you can. He goes we only
got twenty left now.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
A glide and sinker.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
And I was like, let me see if I have
any cat man, I got fifteen. Here you go, Oh man,
are you sure? Thank you so much for buying our book.
You got hard sold, I got heart sold, I got
I got off cell. It was a soft cell.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
It was a build up and the one guy, the
older gentleman that runs it, he handed me the book.
And then one of the guys in the program, The Messengers,
one of the Messengers goes, man, you can't just give
our books away.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
That's our profit just from a script, dude.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
And I said, oh man, And so I paid fifteen dollars.
So I got a book The Messengers from South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
I think they're from Messengers from South Carolina. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Wow, there they're on They're on Instagram and everything. Man,
look at that. But yeah, I got sold. I got
sold a book.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
They only have.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Sixty three followers on Instagram, so they're not really doing
much on Instagram.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
But there you go.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Man, that's my hard sell of a book. There's the
guy who's the guy this guy saw on the bus.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
He handed it to you.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
He handed me the book.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Man, Dude, should I have bought the book that I
was hard sold? It just didn't look that interest. Now.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
I don't understand what could be that big a deal.
It's one call in a regular season NFL game. It's
not like he cost someone the super Bowl, right, It's
a regular season and he wrote a whole book on
that one call.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
I told Baser, I still thought it was a different call.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
I go.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
He's famous for a bad call, and that's what he's promoting. Yeah,
he's making on a bad call. We're making cash on
a bad podcast. Uh no, we're not.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
It's not a bad podcast. But the book story is
not where I was going to go. At the beginning
of this, I did not know we're going to dive
into getting hard sold sold. And so I carried this
book around Chicago and we were at my aunt's house.
It was just laying there on the shelf on the floor.
My wife's like, do you want to bring it home?
I was like, yeah, I'll bring it home. So I
have it at the house. If anybody wants to read it,
I can send it to him for fifteen dollars.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Art Cell for art.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Amazing, amazing, Like you, I forgot all about the book.
I forgot all about the sell until you brought up yours.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yep, that's what I'm saying. It's just like scam artists.
These weren't necessarily scam arts.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
But oh I don't think he was scammer.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Note, but you have to tell other people your story.
You can't be embarrassed by it. You got to own
it because you're gonna save them from making the same mistake,
and you.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Got to be good at luring them in. You got
to be good at talking to them, chatting it up,
and then hitting them with the book. I mean is
that their move is when someone asks, they're like, oh,
here's the book. And then the other guy, hey man,
you can't just give away our profits.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Yeah, it's all scripted, dude. And then if you would
have said no, the other guy goes, I mean it
just five dollars though, would probably be all right. We'd
be able to get skim and get by on that.
There's other lines you didn't even get to yet.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, So if I'd have said, oh, no, that's okay,
they would have been like, I mean, anything helps. But
I mean I think it's a great organization.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I haven't read the books. But what Andy is doing
over at the Messengers, I mean a great program.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
You check it out.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
And the last line of the script that you didn't
even get to us, we'll suck your dick.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
No, last line of the script is got his ass.
We we got a pull, We got it.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
When customer gets off bus, last line is got his ass.
You look around the corner. No high five and a half.
We made a money we made that money. We made
that money.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
They're giving out. Hey, give me my five, give me
my five, give me my five. All right, cool. So
they're not even going to Purdue, is that?

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Hurry forty two year old white male with his family. Hurry, urry,
get the bucks.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Hey, get on the bus, Get on the bus, Get
on bo They just ride to and from the shut up.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Oh my gosh, it gets worse.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
They don't even rent a car.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
They just ride the shuttle back and forth from the
airport to the shuttle to the rental car place, rental
car plays back to the airport.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Airport. Where can you guarantee turnover rental shuttle to rental
car place and shuttle to airport. Nobody's gonna go back
and forth at an airport in the same day. It's genius.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
And you don't have to set up a stand. It
doesn't cost you real estate, just backpackings and books, man,
and a good story.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Did it look like they've been sitting there for a while?

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Man, now that I'm saying, I mean they were eating
their lunch on the bus. I didn't hear one guy say, hey,
are we ever going to take a break. Another guy goes, man,
we've been on this bus for three hours, taking a
long time to get there.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Dude, same thing with a scam. I had a girl
come up to my door. She was doing the car washes. Oh,
and so we give her ten dollars. You just gotta
bring your car and to get a car wash. You
look at the fine print of the coupon because she
gets sold to us on a Thursday. Can't go on
a Thursday, right, So what day do you think the
coupon's for? Monday or Tuesday? No, it's Saturday. I mean
a pretty busy day or whatever the timeframe eight to

(30:26):
ten am. Who is gonna wake their ass up on
a Saturday and say, honey, I'm gonna go use that
coupon and get my car washed. Those girls are running
a Ponzi scheme. They got ten dollars. Nobody's gonna go
get their cars washed. My mom.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Oh, one time in Austin, this kid knocks on the
door twins that live in the neighborhood. They were like
four years younger than me, and like, oh yes, for
our boy Scout fundraiser this year, we're selling these like
coupon packs to Ruby Tuesday. It's like buy one andre

(30:59):
get it for you buy this, get something free by
the you know, get a free appetizer your next trip
to Ruby Tuesday. There's like a whole like sheet of
Ruby Tuesday coupons. And my mom's like, okay, yeah, I'll
support you and the Boy Scouts. She pays like twenty
five bucks for this you know, coupon packet to Ruby Tuesday.
Two weeks later, Ruby Tuesday close for good. They didn't

(31:22):
know that was gonna happen, did they not? Did Ruby
Tuesday not know they were going out of business? And
they still went and partnered with the Boy Scouts. Yeah,
I mean you don't. You can tell your sales are declining.
There has to be talk about man, next couple of weeks,
we may have to shut to this place. But you
know what, I think we should do this campaign with
the Boy Scouts where we sell coupons and just rip

(31:42):
off America.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
We'll take a break and I'm gonna I'm gonna tell
you all about the NFL player I saw this weekend.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
You would one up my NFL ref story.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Hey you had a ref. I got a current player?

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Your player recognizable?

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Uh? I think so? Yeah? I think you would recognize him.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Because my guy was from the failed ozempic, I mean
failed Mary.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
We'll be right back, bro.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
I'm doing you. You could have given me one thousand
dollars and I would never have guessed that he was
an NFL referee.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
How my question is the only referee he would ever
know who it is is ed hockey league because he
is like a bodybuilding correct.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
That's the only way.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
If any guy walked up to me in the street,
I would have no idea he's an NFL referee because
they all look the same.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
And he was badly sunburnt. Oh hadn't used his sunscreen
all summer.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
That's not a good idea.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
He's fallen on tough times. And then my wife at
first thought he was a disabled veteran. She says, I'm
so sorry for what you've gone through, and he goes, oh, no, no,
I'm a veteran.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
He's like, I just made one bad call. I didn't
get hurt. I just made one back call in the
in the NFL game.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Baser hits him with sorry for what you're going through,
but he was perfectly healthy. Jokes I wish you could
have told the audio of being hurt. So confused.

Speaker 6 (33:10):
Fuck he's perfectly healthy. The guy was reffing five years ago.
Vasers said, sorry for what you've gone through. The whole
thing said disabled veterans. I mean I don't feel so
you assume he's a disabled veterer. B he's a ref
pedaling books out of his backpack.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
But I put disabled veterans up there to bring people in,
and then I hit them with the Hey, I'm an
NFL referee.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
You want to buy my book?

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Sorry for your injury.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Oh so, anyway, we go to dinner the other night,
and this is how I knew about the Smoothie Shot.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
And it's a restaurant by the volleyball courts. And people
are like, oh, it's good, it's really good. You should
take you know, next time you're looking for someone, you
should go there. All right, we'll take them there. Like
it's great for kids, they can run around outside, they
can look at the volleyball courts.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Add a little bit to it for pops.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
I'm like, great, so let's go.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
So we go roll up park the car when he
parked the car, and we're trying to pay the freaking
you know, it's a scan of the QR code to
pay your parking dang website's not working. Man, Hey, hey,
are you guys having trouble to just random people in
the parking lot? Yeah, I can't get it to pull up.
We are too, and there's a car with an orange

(34:23):
light on it, so I figure he's parking enforcement and
he's parked up. It parked up at the front of
the lot, and I'm like, oh, I can't leave the
lot without paying because this guy's gonna get us.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
So he's got his window rolled up. So I went up,
Hey man, he rolls on.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Is that what can I do for you?

Speaker 2 (34:39):
I was like, are you parking enforced me?

Speaker 3 (34:40):
He goes no, Well you're in an orange car.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
I'm like the orange light on top. He goes, no,
I'm just work vehicle.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
He just sits in a random parking lot with a
light on top of it.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
I said, but you're not even parked in a parking
spot and you got the orange light. He's like, no, man,
just hanging out.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Okay, said so, I'm I can't really get that the
website to work, so just making sure you're not going
to give me a ticket?

Speaker 2 (35:09):
He goes, not my job.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
That's America in a nutshell.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
So so you really don't work for this, and he goes, no,
all right, cool man.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Well, I mean the signs are orange, your vehicle's orange,
you have a light on top of your vehicle. I
would think that you're in here.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
You're not in a parking spot. You're just parked like
right up where the buildings are, you know what I mean,
like along the curb. Like, how are you not parking enforcement?
Like you have everything that says parking enforcement except for
you don't have parking enforcement right on the side.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Of your car.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Well, you would be perfect for that position.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
But I'm gonna take your word for it that you're
not gonna write me a damn ticket because I can't
get so my wife's like, I got to download that. Yeah,
I got to download that. I'm like, all right, download
the ash downloads aps. It's still not working, still not working.
I was like, it's all right, let's just go and
no one's gonna get a ticket.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah, at that point, I would actually be fine with going.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Like all the these other people are having trouble too.
We've asked three different people. I've asked not parking enforcement,
but I think he is parking enforcement. And so we
walk over and there's a little restaurant. I'm like hey,
and they're like, oh, yeah, everybody's having trouble. Don't worry
about it, because I think if one person goes down,
you're all going down.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
And also, did you use your stupid ass thing you
always say when I park for lunch and you go
ray the cars that are right here, they will tell
first you're ten back. You'll be the tenth car to tow.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
No, I didn't think they would toe. I think they
just give you a ticket, and then i'd fight it
and say, hey, your app would working, your website wasn't working.
So we get to this place or right outside looking
for the restaurant, and one of my kids like, I
gotta go potty. I'm like and I'm like, peer poop.
He's like poop. I'm like, honey, you're taking them.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Take them. So I'm standing there and she took the
little diaper bag, my phone, wallet.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Are in there. Which restroom does she go in?

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Ah? She went in the girls.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Oh hey, lunch is wife and so just gonna drain
my lizard. How's it going, tropop.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
I'm standing there with the two other kids and.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
I look over and dudes on his cell phone and
I look him in the eyes and I'm like, oh, yes,
he looks at me and I nod and he nods
and I'm like, damn, oh, I'm gonna talk to that dude.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
When he gets off that phone.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
What was the first thing he said?

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Oh, that's that's him, that's him, he is him, And.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Then he gave the nods say I mean, yes, I am.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
I mean I made eye contact him and gave him
a smile like I know who you are, did the nod,
and he did the nod back, and he had the
phone in his left hand to his left ear, and
I'm just like, oh boy, I'm I'm gonna talk to this.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
And I'm like I am about to talk to this dude.
And he kind of walks.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Away on his phone and I'm like, all right, come on, kids,
I'm trying to wrangle my two kids to follow me.
He starts talking to his chick and they start walking away.
He gets off the phone. I was like, what up Kittle?
What what up Kittle?

Speaker 3 (38:03):
He lives here? Yeah, he plays for the Niners.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah. I was like, Tats Olivers, well he's not in
San Francisco for a point, I said, what up Kittle?

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Okay, wait to draw attention to him.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
He goes, huh. I said, I know, as you Kittle.
He goes, that's not me, what is it him? And
I was like, have a go with Kittle and he
goes and he just walked off with that chick. It
wasn't Kittle. Training camp started on the fifteenth.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Yeah, he's in San fran dude.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
But I for sure thought it was kittle Man. Look,
I mean, tell me that doesn't look like kittle Man.
He had the arm hats, he had the arm tats.
Everything had the same haircut.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Skinny legs, skinny legs.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yeah, that's where I didn't look.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
I dude, I just saw the tats on the arm
and I looked at him and he looked at me
and acknowledge. It's like, hey, you recognize me. So I
thought I met George Kittle and I and I don't
think it's George Kittle.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
No, dude, way too skinny down low.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
I looked it up and I was like, training camp
started on the fifteenth. I was pat of fifteenth.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
My bad. So the last successful sighting we had was
a Leavis.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
No, it was uh d hop at the softball game.
Oh yeah, yeah yeah, And I think Kittle's arms are
bigger than this. But man, dude, his hair looks exactly
the same. Now, Kittle still's got that long hair. I
thought he'd cut all the hair off. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
I thought it was Kittle. Dude, I thought I had it.
And my wife comes out of the bathroom like, get
my phone, get my phone. So I got a picture
of him walking away.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
At least we got the I mean, I would agree
with the mohawk type thing, but other than that, dude,
Kittle's probably way more bulkier in that in real life.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
But dude, the way but he had hats all down
his arms, just like Kittle.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Dude, I the ref unrecognizable
that guy not Kittle. But what about him looking at
me and giving me the yeah, like maybe he knew
who you were?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
A man. I was so excited. I thought, oh my god,
I'm gonna get this dude on the pod and I go,
what up Kittle?

Speaker 3 (40:14):
And he goes, huh audio of you going up to
him thinking it's Kittle? Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
And so then I was like, all right, well, maybe
I don't even to tell the story. But then the
more I thought about it. I had to tell the story.
I had to tell the story of how I almost
met George Kittle.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
I wanted it to be Kittle, and I wanted you
to say you talked about it coming on the pod.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Who did you think it was?

Speaker 3 (40:32):
I was gonna say leave this when I looked at
him and nodded, He nodded as you guys had hung together,
and I was trying to find the clip for the
last ten minutes, and I think somebody stole it.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Someone covered over it, deleted it. But that was my
George Kittle sighting for the weekend. But then turns out
George Kittle's out in the Bay Area getting ready to
bring in March to the Super Bowl, and I think
he's over here playing sand volleyball at some sand volleyball courts.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
So I did have the bigger NFL meet up this weekend?

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Who did I didn't one up you. You met a
raff and I met a guy that has a haircut
that I thought was George Kittle.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Every Monday, who ran into the most professional athletes?

Speaker 2 (41:06):
It's kind of fun. Hey, who'd we run into this weekend?
That's a new segment.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Who this week? I don't know there's gotta be some alliteration. Yeah,
who we meeting?

Speaker 2 (41:20):
I don't know that that was that was that was?

Speaker 3 (41:22):
That was that?

Speaker 2 (41:23):
And then I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Who did you see this weekend?

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Who'd you see this weekend? Yeah, it's not bad. We'll
take a break.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
We're gonna come back. I'm gonna talk about people's lives
that suck. No, actually, you know what, We're gonna talk
about Justin's birthday party. I still haven't responded to him.
We'll be right back. What's the plan with Justin's birthday?

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Hello, I'm notating our bit since we go back to
all these bits and do them all every show. Okay,
so Justin is going to Evansville for his birthday. I'm
gonna be the d D and we're bringing the chicks,
and we just need to know.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Chi my wife, that's only one chick, you said chicks.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Yeah, man, we're bringing strange No, no, you said chicks
his sister. My wife got it. And then there's the
fifth seat availability for either you or Angelina. But Angelina's
up in the air. And I told Justin, I said, dude,
you don't know lunch with his kids and all that.
The odds of him coming are very slim. I would
You can ask him, but I would say him and

(42:22):
Angelina they're both half and half right now. Because she
has work, she has bigger, better deals. Probably you have
kids and you have I don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Here's the problem, and this is the honest truth. I'm
all in on Evansville.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Ray, I'm out of money.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
No, I'm not out of money.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Ray, I've fallen on hard times.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
I bought one hundred and fifty dollars blanket for my
mom for last Christmas. I'm all in. You brought up Evansville.
I was like, this is great. Drive up there for
the day, come back, be back by six o'clock. Be amazing,
problem with that, but continue, but probably not gonna be
home by six o'clock. Great, not even close, not even close.

(43:06):
Then I looked at the calendar, Ray, it's your birthday.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
No, that day.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Is my son's last day of pre k.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Oh, my gosh. We celebrate everything nowadays.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Day he will be walking out of that school for
the last time as a student of that fine institution.
Did your dad go to your last day and walking
into a new chapter of his life?

Speaker 3 (43:38):
What would be better than him coming into an empty
parking lot. Then he's gonna know loss. Not people not
being there for you. That's gonna help him more in
life than a dad there with warm arms.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
No, my wife's gonna be there, and she would be
there if I wasn't gonna be there. But I felt
like at that moment, it's gonna be an emotional time
in his life. There's gonna be a lot of confusion
in his life, and me not being there might add
to that confusion.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
That me.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Oh, sorry, son, I gotta go gamble your your your
lunch money away or try to double your lunch money
so you can get two trays at lunch. I'm gonna
be in Evansville for Justin's birthday. I'm sorry. I can't
be there to support you as you walk out of
the school the final time. So I don't think I
can go to Evansville.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Dad, Are you sad too because of my graduation last day?

Speaker 2 (44:27):
No, Son, I lost money in Evansville, so I don't
think I'm gonna be able to make Evansville as much
as I want to.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
If you were gonna go, how much money would you
have brought.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Oh, that's a great question.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
If it's not Vegas. It's not an over five hundred bucks. Yeah,
that's I feel like that's the most all around. You're
not too puckered up the asshole driving home if you
lose it all. Yeah, and you have your give yourself
a chance to win in the thousands. Yes, you go
for one hundred or Justin's talking about bringing a couple hundred.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
I said, that'll be going in three minutes.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
Have you seen baser at? The slots will be out.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Twenty Hey, hey guys, are you guys right to head back?
Well we just drove three hours.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Yeah, but not three hours.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Well we've only been here for twenty minutes. Yeah, but
I put one hundred in that slot machine. I didn't win.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Worst case scenario, we all get cleaned out and we're
leaving in ten minutes. Yeah. So what else are you
doing for the birthday? I mean I want to go,
but by next day then we're meeting downtown. It's not
your style.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
No, I'm probably not gonna do that either. The odds
are probably I'm not gonna make that.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
What are you doing for your birthday?

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Probably nothing?

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Joint birthday though, yeah, joint birthday doesn't really work when
you have three kids, and Justin has no kids.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
I want all the attention. Array.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
No, it's not about attention, it's about you. Guys are
at a Justin is out looking for tail. I am,
I got tail and I got kids. Yeah, so him
and Angelina are gonna get drunk in Evansville. They're going
to rekindle their romance. I think they're fine now all
they're back together. Yeah, the fire has been kindled.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
So.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yeah, but we were just curious because it's only a
five person vehicle. Justin talked about riding in the trunk,
and I said, what is this freshman year at college?
Everybody sits in a seat? What are we talking?

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:06):
But who gets middle I don't.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
I don't know, I don't know. I mean, at this point,
it's an hour drive. We're all just trying to win
some money. It's one of those where the whole trip
is gonna rest on us winning money because if we lose,
it's gonna be a brutal hour and a half back.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, let me ask my wife, how important is it
for me to be there last day?

Speaker 3 (46:32):
How important is it see my kids? But hey, so
then I looked it up. There's no early baseball games,
so there's no reason to get there. So really we
need a five forty.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
What time do the tables open? Are the tables open
all the.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Time we're talking. There's Atlantic, there's Vegas, There's Atlantic City,
There's Tahoe, there's Opelousis what's the one by Memphis that
I go to?

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Tunica?

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Tunica and then Evans. I mean, bro, your your guests
is as good as mine. I guarantee you tables on
over till like ten so for sure as hell. Justin thought, hey,
let's go at ten am. There's no way tables are
open at ten am and baseball doesn't start for six hours.
We'll be clean, gutted and out of money.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
We'll get to the bottom of this back.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
On sixty five before those tables even see the light
of day.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Yeah. Eight, I'm calling them right now to find out.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
And I told Justin, did I say this on the air?
Did I text you this? Or I text Justin? Some
of those workers a little disgruntled thank you?

Speaker 5 (47:38):
Okay for the players Club. Press one for hotel reservations,
Press two for casino services, Press three for dining options.
Welcome to casino services. For a casino host, press one
push sluts or table games press two for casino push slots.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Oh my gosh, we're calling the pit boss.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
I know. Are they gonna put me through the pit boss?

Speaker 3 (48:07):
Hello? Eye in the sky. Yeah, man, I just had
a port miss. What's up? Crap?

Speaker 2 (48:16):
I got mustard on my shirt?

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Who the fuck is this? Hello? I ain't gonna answer,
of course, they're not player services. Monday at eleven, how
you've reached the table.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Game shift office?

Speaker 6 (48:29):
Please leave your message after the town.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
They didn't have one human answer a phone. That's America.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
I mean that that's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
But yeah, so it is like throwing the dice, no
pun intended. If the tables are gonna be open, and
then there's really just Major League Baseball. Summer League is
gonna be over. Wimbledon's over.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Uh, the Open is over.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
We love w n B A, but that's a stretch.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Uh, well, I don't want I'm watching the WNBA.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Right, And that's what I'm saying. I'm not not betting that.
But you need it for a parlay. If you're gonna
need like three sports for a parlay, So we have MLB.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Or you can just do three. Major League Baseball teams do,
which is tough, but we could do that. Yeah, I mean,
that was it. I can't go to Justin's birthday. I'm
just letting you know. I tried. I looked into it.
I thought it'd be fun, thought it'd be enjoyable.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
It's just me and Justin driving in the car together.
Happy birthday, man.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Hey man, that's a great birthday. So is his sister
flying in or does she live here?

Speaker 3 (49:23):
No, she lives in Michigan, so she's flying in for it.
And then Saturday's big We're doing brunch at State Side,
that one with the DJ. Yeah, and then probably hit
up some bars downtown.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
All right, I'm gonna probably have a birthday party to
go to at some point. Always do, but it's yours. No, no,
but I'm saying another kids.

Speaker 5 (49:42):
I had.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, I had birthday party at a birthday party, at
a birthday party this weekend. So yeah, that's my That's
that's it.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
But I will be able to give my full review
because we've talked about Evansville Casino and never really given
three D view of it. So with that, I'll be
able to give some advice to our listeners. Truck drivers,
we know you guys roll through and you're trying to gamble.
We maybe we. I hoped I gave a decent review
of Tunica because I actually saw my own eyes. But
Evansville justin thinks it's on the water. I told him

(50:11):
it's a brick and mortar.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
I don't know. I've never looked it up. I just
looked it up and I didn't see any images.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
And I now remember who I was talking to about Eddie. Yeah,
he said that.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
The artist formerly known as Eddie. No, it was Dodd, Okay.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Dodd was telling me they played somewhere in Iowa, and
he said the casino workers had all worked there for
forty years. They'd never done anything else. They all were depressed, dejected,
and hated their lives. And he said it was the
most miserable casino experience of his life. And I said, well,
I hope Evansville's not like that, because my first experience
wasn't great. Oh, because you try to side talk the

(50:46):
dealers and they don't like any of it.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Oh. In Arizona, when I kept calling her the freaking
the assassin, I was drunk. It was my bachelor party,
and this woman killed me at blackjack. So we moved tables,
and then I was winning. All of a sudden she
showed up and I'm telling my boys, oh, look the
assassins here, and she's like, do not call me that?

Speaker 5 (51:04):
Whoa?

Speaker 2 (51:04):
I was like, the assassins goes, I'll get the pit boss.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Whoa.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Okay, there's a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Tell me this. Do they let you split aces?

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah? Always split aces.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Some places don't let you split them though. What Yeah?
What you mean gen pop? General general population? It's sometimes
just high limit. Lets you split it?

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Where have you been in Vegas? You gotta go in Vegas?
Maybe Tunica. There's no damn way.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
You always can split ace?

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Always?

Speaker 3 (51:33):
And then what about if I'm on seventeen stay or
hit stay?

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Good god? What if they're showing king doesn't matter?

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Is that by the book?

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Yes? Right?

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Ray? I play all by the book.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Oh my god, you.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Try to reduce the casino's edge.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Ray, I can't help you, all right, dude.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
If I go to Tunica and they have three greens,
or I go to Evansville, it's already in Vegas. You
know it's gonna spread nationwide, It really is.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
It's gonna have three green You're gonna be pissed off.
And by the way, I watched A Big Brother again
last night. Julie chen Menbez Moonvez has no job anymore.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Hey, Julie chen Moonvez be kind everyone.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
No, she doesn't even get shown on the whole hour
last night. Really it was all the AI bot. We
watched episode one, like the AI bought all talked about
all the AI bought, introduced all the rules of the game,
like head of Household game, all the like the upgrades,
down grades, who's going to be doing this?

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Who needs a volunteer for? What is it called has not?
What do they called him have not? It was all AI.
It was all this the AI person. No Julie chen
Menvez and I find her annoying, but i'd brother see
Julie chen Menbez.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Then the stupid AI thing, the AI thing is the
downfall of society. And also Big Brother, Oh it's horrible.
We watched episode one the I told you, And also, guys,
Big Brother's supposed to be known for all these deep thinkers. Really,
Oh my gosh, these people think next step man, they're
playing chess, Well, we're playing Siamese checkers. Dude. They gave

(53:11):
them this girl that looked like a fake person. She
didn't even talk normal. It was obviously an AI type person.
And she goes, I'm a surfer, but her hair's blue,
And every person fell for hook line and sane and
learning to build a board. Like, here's what the people
didn't realize. First of all, that girl's famous. She has
like three million TikTok followers. The girl they said was Ai.
Oh my god, So not one person recognized her on

(53:33):
Big Brother, all these deep thinkers, not one person realized
it'd be a negative consequence if you voted no to
not allow her into the house. They never thought that
step ahead, and not one person realized that it's an
AI character, not even a real person. The way she talked,
she goes, I'm so excited she was a real person,
but they made her talk a little bit like Ai.

(53:53):
I work at a surf shop and I'm working on
rounding out boards and making them perfect for all the
surfers every day.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
It's my dream to be on Big Brother.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Please don't make me mad at you. Guys. If you're
on Big Brother, you're supposed to be men's member. We
have like some deeper thought processes than the average person,
and everybody goes, I'm so shocked. Oh, guys, you didn't
realize any of that crap. Think one step ahead. It's
obviously not what you're seeing. Expect the unexpected, and obviously

(54:25):
stop using the motto expect the unexpected. This is so stupid.
And guys, remembering Big Brother, expect the unexpect that's life. Man,
make a right turn. Watch out for the pedestrian. Oh
there's a Cadillac up my asshole. Oh, watch out for
the semi that's expecting the unexpected. Mother ger.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
But you don't even hear Julie jen Menmez say that anymore.
It's Ainsley the Bot. But I will say they did
introduce some new twists in the game last night going
forward for this season, and I like it. Gonna make
it more excite, more edge of your seat drama. I
like what the couple of twists they did. But the
AI Bot's got to go. I've got to we've got

(55:07):
to get rid of it. But obviously already had to
the first challenge. You know, the whole season is about
the AI Bot.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Okay, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
The AI Bot is more popular. It's gonna be more
popular than any person on the show.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
No crap, because what do we talk about in society?
A I bought AI generation, Hey ai bot, chat bot,
Hey dating apps, hinge, you can now do chatbot comments,
Hey chatbot ai AI coach. That's everything now, hey, I
E I know. But the thing I wanted to say
about host Julie men men Vudvez all hosts are done
for If you watch Love Island, they have to watch

(55:38):
they have an AI voice.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
See here we go.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
He's actually pretty funny though, and he does a majority
of the hosting in Ariono Maddox, who's from Scandaval. She
goes in. She flies to the island like once a month.
Hey guys, I'm back. What the who is this guy? Dude?
She's never on the show, but she's the host. The
AI bot basically hosts it and she comes back once
a month. You know where.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
They'll never do that survive and they'll never do that
on the challenge.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Yeah, because they can't get Propes to get his ass
off the Yeah, some continent with a lot of flies
in dirt.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
And they can't get TJ lab and he ain't leaving
that dude, Come on.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Now, worst probes that. Oh I don't know, he's banging
an Anthill.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Got to cocain it up his ass?

Speaker 3 (56:22):
All right, Phil Cogan, Dude, you ain't gonna get him off.
Amazing race and congrats Xanderschofle.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
I didn't watch much of it.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
I didn't watch.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
I didn't watch much.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
We were out on Thursday. Every guy had was plus seven.
We put five dollars in the sore Loser's pool on Facebook.
Zero return. Hopefully that's not foreshadowing for Evansville.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
I told you one of my pools, I accidentally picked
Chofle when I meant to pick Barkawa.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
You told me that I won the pool.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Can we be a little bit more excited?

Speaker 2 (56:52):
How much it's like a one hundred and twenty bucks.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Sounds like you need to parlay in Evansville.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
I mean Howard? I mean it was like I I
literally picked him out more cow in every pool that
I was in, and then I looked at that one.
I'm like, why do I have shovlet And they were
right next to each other on the list, and I
just clicked the wrong one.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Me being the expert. Six out of I think we
picked seven. Six out of my seven didn't make the cut.
Only one of them was semi decent. Bazer didn't even
know any of the scores. Obviously, the next day she
picked him, she would have got six out of seven
pretty much that made the cut. Damn. Isn't that funny
how that works?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
That's so weird? All right, have a great Monday, guys.
This is a long one.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Sorry, uh yeah, but look out for those hard sales guys.
Be careful out there.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Hey man, can I get that one hundred and thirty bucks? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
I really thought it was kiddle man.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Dude. Text with Justin went off. I don't even think
I can read any of them. Oh that bad. We
were talking about the South Sudan guys. How they don't
even have an indoor gym and they only beat USA?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Oh they I mean, how unbelievable is that? How does
that happen? Like? How did that happen?

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Same thing I said with March Madness. A team that's hot,
plays defense, can make some shots. No, no, no, South Sudan,
I don't honestly on I don't know where that is Africa? Okay,
they said it wasn't even like when Lebron started playing basketball.
It wasn't even a country.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
And they almost beat US and they almost beat us.
Do they have anybody from the NBA on their team?

Speaker 3 (58:19):
But they're gonna be looking.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
This.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
See this makes no sense. This is what Justin texts.
Aaron Judge has a microscopically tiny crank, so I wouldn't
be too concerned and are worried about it. His wanker
is so small that even Fritz couldn't see it. And
then he texts South Sudan to win Olympic gold in Paris.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Uh okay.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
I said, did Otani do well last night? And he
said he hit a bo's chinko that slang for home run.
It means cookie in Spanish.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
I don't think it does he hit a.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Cookie out of the old for it's one, two, three strikes,
you're out at the old ballpark. I think he was
on the hard liquor again.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
It sounds like he was on something.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
He said, Otani went wabo last night. What the fuck
is he talking about? I don't know. He said, some
of us I go. I said, hey, I'm playing golf
again today. Fuck it? And he said some of us
work for a living and don't have time to lollygag
around all day like a nutless chimp. A nutless ape
could beat you in golf.