July 26, 2024 • 41 mins
In this episode Swerve Strickland the AEW World Champion brings his belt to the studio to talk about life as a wrestler. Swerve fills us in on how wrestling works, how he got into wrestling and the grind of being a wrestler. Swerve also reveals his new album will be dropping soon and when you can get your hands on a pair of his shoes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Alright, rocket, all right, we're right, dupe.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Hey, we're always live.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
We're live.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
I mean, hey, we got a guest, and it's a
little weird to do the intro in front of a
guest because he's like, what the hell am I getting
myself into?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
But let's do it all right, Arnold? Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
He's not here today. Oh, Arnold didn't come in now,
told the intern to take the day off. He got
too drunk on Broadway last night. So we're gonna do
it live. When are we introing the guests?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
After we do our intro and then you'll sell and
then you'll kick it over to him.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Okay, we oh the one, two, three? Sore losers?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What up, everybody? I'm lunchbox.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I know the most about sports, so I'll give you
the sports facts, my sports opinions, because I'm pretty much a.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Sports genius, y'all. It's Sison. I'm from the North. I'm
an alpha male. I live on the North side of
Nashville with a Broadway girl. A lot of farmers and
ranchers have about one hundred acres. We have two acres,
so we're not gonna sell yet. They haven't started beating
down our doors, but we won't sell. We won't sell
over to our next guest. It's swerve. What's up?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Aw World Champion. So do you walk around with the
belt everywhere you go?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Not everywhere? Can't do that everywhere? Like even still I
still kind of cover on it. Oh really Yeah, I
can't walk around that much bling all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
So when you walk in the airport, do you check
that or you carry on?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Always carry on, always carry on, never check it?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Here's it under fifty pounds?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Well you know what I mean, Like they have restrictions,
you know, like when they pick it up when it's
going through that or like wait, wait, wait, what's in here?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
And now you go through x rays.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
They could literally see like aw on it going through
the X rays. So they're like, oh, it's a belt.
They don't even check it anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Oh that's cool.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, they like check out the laptops and stuff that
just flies right through.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Yeah, yeah they sometimes ull Orlando, they just let whatever
coat through sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
But I mean I got a little blank that I wear,
and I mean it gets pinged.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You have bling.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, my necklace look at his necklace. No, his necklaces
goes off. His sunglasses go off. Yeah, the pelt goes off.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Sometimes my teeth go off to.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Now that's funny.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Now my question because like wrestling, I have so many
questions about wrestling because I've never talked to a professional wrestler.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yes, I have the Giant, Andre the Giant, I'm Bobby
Bone Show.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
No, he was never on my I never talked to
Andrea next door then anyway, So I used to go
to wrestling as a kid. Yeah, and I loved it.
Like I went, my dad, my brother and I went
and saw it. And we come home. We walk in
the door and my mom's like, how was it? And
my brother's like, I know, it's fake. I walk in
two minutes later and I'm like, mom, it's the most
(02:39):
real thing you've ever seen. It's unbelievable. So how do
you guys choreographed? Do you talk like your opponent? You know,
you have a match. Do you sit down and be like, Okay,
I'm gonna do a souplex and then I'm gonna come
off the top turnbuckle, You're gonna move?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
How does that work?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
To keep that feeling of me that you had leaving, Yes,
that's how it is. It's like that's how we kind
of like, I like to keep that feeling tours and
fans and I'm just.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Gonna remove the forest wall real quick.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
You gotta, you gotta, I want you, I want you to.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
I want people to wonder how it's done, okay, And
that's that's what keeps that feeling for people that are
like that, are like, come to a show that they
haven't seen in a while and they're just like, oh
my god, this is the most real feeling. Then why
would you want to ruin that?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Because it's a pretty it's impressive, Like people don't realize
how athletic wrestling is.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Absolutely that leads me to my question, are you ready? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I'm ready for it.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
If you go on a vacation, because I went to
the Dominican Republican saw Dame Lillard. He was working out.
Do you work out the vacation or you the guy
that just lays on the beach?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Oh? You get a mix of both.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
I don't go like two and a half hour sessions,
but you know, you get a less a little pump
in there, like an hour hour and a half.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
What's a workout for you? Is it just pumping weights
or is it?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah? Yeah, for me, it's like strength training for me.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
That's where I'm at right now because that's where my
body is and a lot of those like a lot
of those heavy strength Sometimes I'll be like two and
a half three hours in the gym, and it's just
like strength training. It builds those joints in those ligaments
and stuff so they're not as like sensitive with like
pulling something tearing and all that. I don't have any injuries,
(04:25):
you know, like ever since I've been in AW I've
been like one hundred percent healthy. So that's why I
trained the way I do, to make sure like I
have the endurance for that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
That leads me to my next question. So I can bench,
I can push two twenty five. How much can you?
Speaker 5 (04:40):
I've done three fifteen on the max. Yeah, but I
don't do it often. I hit it and I was like,
all right, I can do it, and now I do
like two twenty five to forty.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, because that's two plates on each sid.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah, So I just hove around that and
I don't go that high anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
What made you fall in love with wrestling is that
is that you wanted to become a wrestler. Because you
watched it as a kid, like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Yeah, yeah, honestly it was honestly the video games okay, yeah,
like me and my friends, like we bonded over lunch
table talk like, oh, you watched wrestling last night. I
didn't see it, and then like, so you missed out
on the whole conversation at the table, so like a lot.
So I started watching wrestling because of them, and then
we started hanging out, and then they had the games,
and every new game that came out, we huddled over
(05:24):
at Buddy Eric's house and we all created characters and
we wrestled and played the games and stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
So the video games, do you make money on those?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I didn't make money?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
What about the ones now? I saw like AI three
D characters of you. Do you make any money off
of that?
Speaker 5 (05:37):
As far as like meet my likeness on them? Oh
yeah yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Figururines?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
What about your shoes? Yeah, those shoes are sweet? Are
those just wrestling or can you wear those every day?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
If you wear them? Just fashion?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
But they kind of look like wrestling though too.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, but that's the beauty of it.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
You can wear it with an outfit and you like
the guy mash who created them and Flash designed them.
They're designed to be all purpose. You can wear them
in the gym. You can also wear them like and
it would outfit and not out on the town. But
you also wear them. You can play basketball on them
if you wanted to. And then like you're gonna be
have them in a match?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Are they on sale right now?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Coming soon? We're gonna drop a link very soon, very.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
So you and me wearing those shoes around the office.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Oh dude, I'm gold. I have a bunch of different colorways.
I already have my second colorway come out, the one
that I wore Forbidden Door, the gold with the gum bottom,
like as I just saw the black. Those those were
the first ones we unveiled. So those came out and
now that was a dynasty. And now Afterbidden Door, like
a month ago, we just dropped the new color away,
the gold one.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
So if I wanted to wear a pair of those
out on Broadway? What is it? What are they gonna
run me?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
How much? Okay?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Thanks?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So they're they're I mean that's expensive shoe. How much
did you have in the like, say, like do you
get to pick out the color patterns or I kind.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Of like had like, Okay, this is one I'm gonna
wear for the show, and the gear that's the concepts
and he was like I got something that and he'll
just do it. Flash kind of designed them from square one.
Him and Mash got together like what they like.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
They went through like what are the shoes that I like? Yeah,
those when I prefer and.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I like the you know, the Jordan Wanes type, you know,
the mids with the flats and flat bottoms, very slim,
slim souls on them, and they were like, oh, okay, cool,
what if we did this? Then they just start throwing
the ideas again. So I kind of like stood out
and then let them just create and whatever they created,
then I probably would modify off of that and I
(07:31):
would come and bring my you know, opinion on this.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
IM like this didn't feel good.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Just kind of felt like this, like I feel like
we should do this on the tongue, We should put
this design that logo, and I got a guy that
can make that logo for this.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Then I come in after that.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
But the first one was just prototypes and they were
on seale, but now they're going to be on sale
very soon.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Dude, we need him for our merch man.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I mean he knows how to design.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I'm not a merch guy. I'm an idea guy. I
get a guy. Yeah, because we want to.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Done well and for the you want have done well
and efficient, you get the guy for it.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Right, because we tried to design merchants, Like we're such idiots.
We're like, oh, we need to get a new merch
we need to get a new merchant. Here we are
two years later. Guess how much new merch we've come
out with.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
None.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
That's why you get a guy for it. Man.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
If you like keep second guessing, the second guesses like,
we gotta do it, we gotta do it, and it's
just assigning somebody to do it, and it's already done.
It's already like boom. Three weeks can turn into three
years very quickly.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Question about the wrestling part of it. He goes the
trampoline park with his kids.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Is this a dumb idea or a good idea? Would
you ever go to a trampoline park to work on
your next moves? Uh me, No, no, because kids are there.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
No, not just that, but like if you add other
elements like a trampoline and like a and other enhanced environments.
I would say, like, like, it takes the unnatural out
of the wrestling, got it.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
I like to keep the natural as much as I can.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
What's like, oh, this could really happen, So me, I
like to keep as much like this is my body
naturally goes. I don't need this to make this happen.
I can just do it anywhere anyhow with anyone.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And you're like jacked on your own. So I always
wonder people, do you have security since you're already ripped up.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
It depends on the events with us today. No, I'm
I'm pretty Jill.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
He's like, I'm not worried about you, like you little sissies.
We're not worried about you.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Pretty cool like that we drove around the neighborhood. I'm like, oh,
I think we could. I don't need to call a body.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Now you need me to move over? Okay, So I
were filming this, I wasn't in the camera. So going
back to your lunchroom discussions about wrestling, who were the
wrestlers of your like that you were like watching and
playing in the video game, and you're like, that is
who I like, you know what I mean? Like basketball
players like, oh, I modeled my game after Lebron, I
modeled my game at OKD.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Who did you watch? And we're like, man, I love
the way they wrestled.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
For me, Ray Mysterio was like the primary number one,
and then Edge like my guy or Adam Copeland now
just because like he was like the taller guy and
I was always taller. Then like I was too tall
to be like a Ray Mysterio. So like like Copeland
just kind of felt like that was like man, like
the stature, the storytelling. There's a lot of his movements
(10:14):
and his physique and his style. I was like, really
I always just gravitated towards and then like Ray's slickness,
the creativity, the colorful elegance, you know, the entrance, all
those things kind of like I just adapted to quickly.
And then the tattoos to me, like like Rai's tattoos
(10:35):
was always like really dope to me, you know. And
then like so that's kind of where like I adapted,
like just the fandom, and then like the actual studying
of the art of being a professional wrestle was like
more Adam Copeland style. When I actually got into wrestling
and training and studying tape.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So back in the day when we used to watch wrestling,
girls would flash sometimes.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah, yeah, it was major.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So do they still do that now?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I don't see it?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Oh get you locked in?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
No?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
I see everything I see. I literally look around. I
hope to see it, but I don't. But I don't.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
I don't. I don't see that. I don't.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
I don't really get that. We don't get that at
our shows too much. We do get some wild like
ladies and men, but nothing over the top. There have
been people that ran into the ring though it's happened,
like happened to Daniel Garcia earlier this year, like like
like a but like like a chick or a dude
runs dude, Like girls ain't running in Like.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Why are they running into the ring? Do they want
to give them a hug? Are they trying to?
Speaker 5 (11:30):
I've always always wanted that, like why what what were
you hoping to accomplish?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Like like guys jumping on the soccer.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Field and run around, like what, what's what's the goal here?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
What we what are we trying to accomplish?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
You know? Because like when they run on the football field,
I want them to just lay them out when they
if they jump in the ring, are you told like, hey,
just back up and security will handle it, or do
they not even go over that protocol with.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
If they're If they're on you, you gotta defend yourself,
Like as a wrestler, you have to defend yourself. Did
they get close to you to put hands on you?
You gotta lay them down, like you're you're a competitor. Yeah,
like you wouldn't see a fan run into a UFC
ring and try to fight, Like no, they know this
is a death sentence. Good, so you gotta lay them down.
You gotta put them down then allow security to do
(12:12):
their thing. But if they're like if if you see
them coming and they're like a good ten feet away
from you, you see it, just backed up, get security. But
if they're like already you don't see them and they
already make contact with you, you got to defend yourself.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Do you ever in the middle of a wrestling match
that like your opponent hit you and you damn you
hit me too hard?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Like what do you oh all the time all the time, but.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
You can't show it right or do you like is
that those facial expressions sometimes they're like oh man, that
really hurt.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Okay, hold on, give me a second.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
I'll I'll use that and like make it into a
part of the match. A lot of times I'll improv things.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Like that nutshot accidentally, No, that's what I'm How often
is the nut do you get hitting the nuts?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
And we don't really me barely?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Ever? Do you throw a sock in there?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Wow, no legit.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
What you see that's the real package. That's the the
swear making package.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Nothing but he uh, the girls like this may be
not very informed on my part. Like do you guys
ever wrestle the girls where it's known, you know, you
can't really touch their boobs? They got to watch. Yeah,
it's known obviously. You know, you just watch out for
the implan, Like how does that work as far.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
As like men wrestling to women or the women wrestling period?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I men wrestling women, you're gonna accidentally touch a boob?
Speaker 5 (13:33):
You know, we don't look at it as like like
touching inappropriately. We look as like two competitors like performing.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
You know, so our boss accidentally he was in an
All Star game and he accidentally slapped an ass and
it happened to be a female. And he's a Malefa.
It was on a celebrity field though it.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Was I mean, no, that's not and that's not a
competitive nature when you go to your parents and you say,
all right, look, this military thing is great and all,
but I think I'm gonna, you know, get out of
the military.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I'm gonna get out of the reserves. I want to
be a wrestler.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
So I was doing it both at the same time.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
You were already training when you were doing the reserves.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Like I went to I was like two weeks out
of high school. I went right to the military. I
like took a bus, took a flight down to Fort Jackson,
South Carolina, did my basic training, and took a bus
from there to Fort Gordon and Georgia in Augusta, Georgia.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
So I did that and then came back home.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
So I was a reservist and then so I was
like doing the reservist thing. And then I was like,
I'm gonna I want to pursue a dream because I
always had military to fall back on in case this
all falls through. So I just did both for like
six seven years. Then I was started getting ahead with wrestling.
I was traveling more, I was going overseas. I was
like really starting to make like some type of income
(14:54):
to stabilize myself and then to feed my kids as well.
And so I just like, if I put all my
focus into this, like you kind of want to abandon
that safety net because this is like you take that away.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
You gotta fly. Yeah, you got to learn to fly.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
So, so which was harder military or wrestling?
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Military is not as hard. It's just because it's so
it's so directed. It's literally like follow this, do this,
do this, and you get this okay, and if you
do that, you you can succeed.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
You can have like a very feasible military career.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
It's like furniture.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
You follow directions, directions, you're gonna be Yeah, it's very simple. Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Some people like to buck the system and they don't
get the results they're looking for them Like, well you
didn't follow this, you thought you knew better, So just
follow your the system rather than try to bucket and
create your own, right.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
So military actually helped me, know learn that.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
In wrestling, it's like, oh, I just do these things
and you know I'll be up that that will get
me a solid career. But I didn't want to solve
where I wanted to exceed that, I wanted to extra
like I wanted to make a great career. So now
it was for me, it was like tapping into those
things to like exceed the potentially exceed, do more than
(16:10):
what's asked of me.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Did you ever wrestle in high school?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
No? No?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
No, wow, see I did though, so I kind of
have one leg up. No.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I mean those that makes it harder because you're doing
a different type of wrestling and you're I mean.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
It's different types of instincts.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Because there's like UFC, there's wrestling, and there's those.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Guys actually struggle to transition to pro wrestling a lot
more and in a lot of cases.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Do you ever do you look at the UFC and
I think I could do that?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
No?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
No, No, I have tremendous respect for what those guys
do in MMA, and I've wrestled like Matt Riddle and
guys like that who are like you know, like legit
like UFC fighters, MMA guys, and those guys are just
different animals, different beasts, you know, And I have utmost
respect for what they do. That my mental like creativity
and thinking and instincts is way different from what MMA's
(17:03):
guys are and that's just a different type of instinct
you got to tap into with that.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So tell me this. After an event, you know, you
got your wrestling thing, you do it at a big
arena or whatever. You got to be juiced up, you
know after do you just go to the hotel and
go to bed or you go party?
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Oh I'm not a party or like that.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I've hung out and like, you know, I don't really
go out unless I'm with like people that I haven't
seen in a while. It's like a momentous occasion or like,
you know, you got your lady with you, you want
to take her out? You know she don't, y'all want
to just she doesn't want to. She wore this nice outfit.
Let's go right, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
So that's the only times I would like, really go out.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Have you been invited to, say, like a badass party?
Because everybody goes that white party? Michael Rubin, Like, what's
an amazing one that you've been invited to?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I mean just in Vegas, I was like, my buddy's
Mayweather was there.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Me invited me, Like, my buddy invited me to come
out and go to He had a friend that owned
some of the resorts, Resort World Vegas. So there was
a part of a club party going on, and we
went through and I got to meet Ludacris, like like
tap up Ludacris and then for him, then t Pain
comes out, and then later on like just met up
(18:18):
with Mercedes at the and all these people at this
other club.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
We're just resort hopping in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Now in Vegas a little bit. Uh, you know, the
dice around play some black jackers.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
So I look at the tables, I'm like, that's cool.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
You can obviously see he keeps his money because he's
iced out and everything to watch everything.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I reinvest my money.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Okay, reinvest. Yeah, So who are the Have you had
celebrities come up to you? Like, is there anyone that
they come up to you? Like, dude, I'm a huge fan.
I love like you're wrestling and you're just.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Like, damn, this person watches me wrestle.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Steven Emmel was really dope out of a signing. He
was an Arrow okay from the show Arrow because he's
friends with Cody and so, like he's been invested in
wrestling for years and I was doing a signing.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
I was walking into the green room just like me
meet some people.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
And then Steven Mill like swerve, gets up off the
table and I'm like looking at the cast of Arrow,
which I loved the show.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
And he's like he just introduced. This guy's a badass man.
This guy just took staples to the face.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
And I was like, I was there, ken Jong. I
got to meet him finally. He's been at shows but
I never was like seeing them, but it was like
ken Jong was like what where? And I missed him?
So like after the show at full gear, he just
like bowed down to me, like this is one of
the funniest guys in the world.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I'm like this guy was like like.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Guy from Freaking like Hangover, Hangover the community, like one
of the doctor ken like we name him. This is
like you name it. He's been done everything. And this
guy's like like Rick Rubiny.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
That respects me and loves me. I was like, how
that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
So it's like really interesting seeing the guys that were
already fans before you like introduced and then you create
make them a fan.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Like in your phone though, so I randomly have Andy
Roddick's phone number. Yeah, who's Who's somebody's number you.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Got more so Instagram for sure, like Rick Ross like
and this stuff whenever I want and.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Just say what up? Just check you in, like hey,
how's your day?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Bun Bee like the text like oh okay, yeah, one's dope.
There's a lot of I think of some like Big Ones, Cardi.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Bayl, The Butcher's Dopees, Taylor Swift.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yah, I'm getting up there with like these artists and stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Now like country. Do you listen to country music at all?
Not at all? Okay, but he does have a rap
album coming out, I know.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
I mean like this is my second one, oh second,
it's my fifth. But so like I did two three
group albums, my solo one just came out last May,
and now me and Flash Garments, who's done Big Pressure dropping.
We're dropping a record this week and then that's the
Big Pressure Trill remix with Bunbe and Westside Gun on that.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
So you're just busy all the time. Is there any
like chilling you? Do you chill at all?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Or is it.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Always with my kids when I get my girls? Okay,
yeah that's my chill time. Girl Dad two girls, yeah,
fourteen and twelve.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Oh so you're in the like, yeah, like you're getting
that age where like guys are gonna come knocking like
want to take your daughter out to Like.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
It's it's it's it's getting, it's getting.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
It's getting a little challenging now because like now my
oldest is like remembering all the times I had to
miss out because of all the time on the road
to get to this point. So she's starting to have
those feelings and we had to have those conversations. So
it's getting tough with that. And now my youngest is
like wanting to be more attached to me, but she
lives in Pennsylvania. I live in Florida, and I'm like, hey,
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like whenever you say the word, I will create a
room and it's yours and you can like finish school
down here with me.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
What's up because you're in Florida.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah, Now, is there any like do you have any
dreams of like the rock he moves from wrestling movie Star?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Do you have any acting dreams outside?
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Like oh yeah, yeah for sure, Like I'm I've we're
linked with the Lucas brothers. They they got two oscars
from working on Judas and The Black Messiah. We in
the middle of doing a documentary with them. They've shot
all the way since World's End and picking up everything
since then. They shot the me winning the world title
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here Hey.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Because hey, Sore Losers isn't big enough for the Lucas brothers.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
They want a a w We have a lot of
like those we could tap into at any point. We're
just it's just like it's all about timing and monetizing
it to the bit the most we can is.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
We don't want to just like link up like hey,
what's up? We just hanging out.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
No, we want to like come in like all right,
this is what the ideas we're going to bring this,
This gets to that, this goes to here we have this,
this goes like you want to bring all these pieces
of why this is the best decision you can make
to really tap on those doors and then bring like
revisit and have those conversations.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Doesn't want to waste time, no modetization with the sore Losers,
Like why am I here?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Because we're I mean, we already talked about your shoes
coming out in the new album. I mean aw now,
tell me, like wrestling money wise, when you start.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Out, how poor are you just like grinding.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Like making maybe twenty five dollars in a match, sometimes fifty.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
And what is that to pay? Is that bi weekly
or you get a lump.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Sun I was like, you don't get paid unless you wrestle.
That's like on independent, like just starting out independent and
stuff like that, and so.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
You just wrestle seven days a week just hoping to
get paid.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Well, you want to travel, That's the first thing you
want to do, is just like you don't want to
just wrestle for like six years in one spot. Ever,
Like even if you're at AW or a TNA or WW,
you don't want to wrestle one spot too.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
You don't grow and wrestling in that one spot.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
So even on the entry levels in the Pennance shows,
you want to you want to kind of find like
a tri state area where you're like, all right, we're
doing Pennsylvania on Thursday. Then there's a show in Rochester,
New York on Friday. Then we can get to Virginia Saturday,
and then you hit like, you know, West Virginia on Sunday.
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Whether the shows are big or small, at least you're
moving and getting around. And then so finally your name
becomes pretty synonymous with that area.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Then you gotta get to Florida.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Then you gotta get to territories of Ohio, then you
gotta get to Nebraska.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Yeah, you want to, like you want to, You just want,
like at the first three to five years, you want
to just get on the road, no matter how much
little money you're making or you know, you just want
to get seen, get your name out there. And so
now when you become something later, those fans, I remember
when he into that little podunk marketplace, show and stuff
in front of us, and now you got that fan
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for life, They're gonna they're gonna travel when you finally
make it the stadiums, they're gonna be the ones like
coming to your conventions and stuff because they you made
a memory with them at the small places, So now
they're going to come to the big places later on.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Like do you have a money manager, Yes, you have
a business manager?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Do you have a manager?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (25:24):
I got something, I got every little thing, I have
somebody overlooking.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
It and some said clean person, yep, a person, a
gardener all that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
So do you have a night nanny?
Speaker 4 (25:37):
No, no, not yet.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Do you have a do you have a gated community?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Like yeah, h Okay, is it.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Hard for you where you live to just go like like,
can you just go to the mall?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
That's pretty See, that's that's great because you have a
level of fame where you're making great money because you've
got a gardener, you got a cleaner, you got you know,
a chef, you got a personal trainer, you all this,
and guess what, you can still go out to eat
and no one bothers you.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
I'll still occasionally get like, hey, swear man, how's it going,
or like somebody was like like I didn't want to
bother you, but I appreciate what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
They keep moving.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
It's not like I'm always like get a photo or
something like that.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
It's it's not that crazy yet.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Is there places you turn people down for photo? Like
is there somewhere like Okay, if someone asked me.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
For airports like certain times, certain hours and stuff, I'm like, oh,
that's a little inappropriate.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
I'm just going to keep moving. But thank you. I
appreciate that you're a fan of support.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
But now it's not the opportunity time or if I'm
with my kids, yeah like that.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, Now, do you have fans that have come up
to you and like, hey, look we took this picture
five years ago. Here's yeah years ago, here's us. Two
years here's us. So they've kind of grown up with you.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Yeah yeah, like I know, I'll no because of my
hair length, like oh like here down here, Oh, start
touching my shoulders here?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
So why do you still want photos?
Speaker 5 (26:57):
We've got every stage in my life now the last
six years.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Who acts crazier? Grown men or kids?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
No? Grown men?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Explain that to me like I could.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I couldn't explain.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Well, kids are kids like kids are kids.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I get it, Like I mean, I mean, I will
never forget going to WWF when it was WWF when
I was a kid and the bushwhackers came out and
they're doing there. I don't know if you know who
the bushwhackers are, and I got to rub one of
their heads because you know, and I went to the
railing and I will never forget it as a kid.
But there was grown adults next to me. No, there
was grown adults next to me rubbing their heads. And
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I was just like, as a eight year old, I'm like,
you guys are adults.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Like I said, wrestling brings out the inner child and
everybody that's what it is. Yeah, Like even like I like,
I don't see I don't see adults act like kids
when they meet NFL players or they meet NBA players
because they didn't grow up with them. They kind of
just like, oh, you were good at you're thirty. I'm
thirty years old. We kind of grew up together. But
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as for something Wrestling's like I grew up as a
kid and now like as like I didn't grow up
with you. You were an adult when I was a kid.
Now you're like like up here and now I'm an adult,
but just still remembers you as a kid.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
You know. It's kind of different with sports and stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Who is your your team?
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I'm a La Rams fan.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
You guys got one though a couple of years out I.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Got I met I got to meet Aaron Donald that
night too. Did you really on the field at the
banquet celebration where you had the game? I didn't get
to go to the game, but I wasn't in LA
and was watching at a party friends party in LA
and like, I'm like the game, they won the game.
I was hype out in my Aaron Donald jersey. I
went back to my Airbnb and then like I was
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like laying down.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
I was like, oh yeah, we did it. Cool winding down.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
And then like I get a texta with like my buddy,
uh Jason. You know Nita Strauss. They just got married,
Jason need to just get married. She plays guitar for
the Rams every home game, so they get a ring
when they won the super Bowl and they so he
was like, yo, man, Ramsey, you watch the super Bowl.
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Was like like yeah, it was great, man, I'm actually
in town. He's like, what, I'm at the party right now.
I got a guest pass.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
If you want to come. I was like, I put
my clothes right back.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Aaron Donald, Jersey Uber and over and like I got
access to like this like like party with the players
and like Sean McVay and everybody was there.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
And then like he wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
I did need to get to see Cooper, but like
I was like walking around and I was like, oh man,
this is cool. I walked a downd for like an
hour and I was like this cool, but like yeah,
I think it was like getting late. I was like
I'm gonna head to back out and then was like
walking past, I see like Aaron Donald with like two
big security guys and just hanging out with his wife
and like some friends.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I was like, oh snappers Aaron Donald and.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I'm wearing this jersey and I'm like I just go
say hi, and so there, yeah, yeah, say hi man.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yeah see. I can't take no for though. But like
I was like, cool, I don't need it photos, no.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Man, But a photo didn't happen. Yeah, you know, if
you don't put it on Instagram, I don't know if
it really happened.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
It's one of those things. I'm like, I don't care
if you believe me or not.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Like I have that experience and like that's cool with me,
but like that was just an awesome night.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
That's like I was at a club in Vegas one
time and I was peeing and I turned around to
leave and Chuck O'Dell walks up with the urinal next
to me, and I'm just like, what in the world,
Like he was hung? I didn't I didn't know if
he was hung or not. I don't know because there's
a partition, but the fact that I was in the
bathroom with Chuck Ladell, I was just like, what are
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you doing coming to the normal bathroom in the club?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
In Las Vegas, Like you're Chuck Ladell got to go somewhere.
But I know, but I figure they got VIP bathrooms
for VIP people.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
But these guys are just regular people, man. I know.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
But as a huge fan, you know what I mean,
you don't expect to see Chuck Oadell at a urinal
in Las Vegas. So like I was walking through one
time and Mike Tyson was walking through the club and it.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Was so like, I'm in, I take my girl downtown
to Tampa for a date night, and like our restaurant's there,
but I got to use the bathroom. We both got
use the bathroom. So're like, oh, let's just stop in
this hotel, just use the bathroom and walk over to
the restaurant, right, And so I just stop in, like
I go and use the bathroom and I come back
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out and she's like waiting for me outside. She was like, oh,
Kevin Hart just walked by. I'm like what, Like she
was like, yeah, like thirty seconds ago used to walk
by and he told me high and I was like,
how's it going, And they just walked right past me.
I'm like in the middle of just like the open
hotel just Kevin Hart and then but I missed it
because I'm like, you missed it. I'm washing my hands.
If I didn't wash my hands, i'd meet Kevin Hart exactly.
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I mean if I was a slob, I would have
met Kevin Hart.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
So you when you're not wrestling, you sound like you're
like a homebody very much.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
So like I'm only out if I have to do
business stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
So you're not like, you know, wrestling, you're on, you're
putting on a performance. You're really out, you know what
I mean. Like, so then when you just go home,
you're just like you're kind of quiet, like.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yeah, Like it's it's like being a socialite like that.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
It's exhausting to introverts.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
So because we got to put out more energy than
we're used to, we would like to conserve our energy
and keep it.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
But like coming out.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Speaking with you guys, then coming out and then do
this and meet with these people, that's like I'm expending
a lot of energy. So when I'm home, I bought
a home for a year, I'm like, I want to
be in it. I want to experience it, I want
to feel it, Like this is my first bought home.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
So I want to like be in it, you know, so.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
So like if you do like sports, so if you
wanted to make a call, say World Series, NBA Finals, NHL,
because you got NHL teams down there in Florida, if
you want to, you could just make a call and
go to any of those games.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's or I'll throw out a pitch
at them or say something like.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
What you just did a pitch the other day, didn't you, Florida?
Didn't you do mout Marlins?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
That was an old one, but right before.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Dynasty, I did the Saint Louis Arnold's got it the
first pitch there?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Did you get that thing over? I was a pitchlicking.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
My pitchers are pretty good.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Did you play growing up?
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:07):
I tried out and I made the team, but I
was I just like, I wasn't a big into playing it,
So I just my mom wanted me to just do
something outside after school, so I just switched from that
and I went.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Like did some Like there was like.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
This uh community center that had basketball, so I did
the basketball and then I went to do track my
senior year and I was just like I wasn't even
that good at it. I didn't like really Once again,
I didn't train a lot craziness for it, So I
just did it because it was something to do after school.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
So what a swerve doing is free time? Like what
does swerve do?
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Play college football? Now?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Okay, see we just talked about this on the last
Tell me maybe I all the allure of being a
college football coach and doing a dynasty. Tell me why
that is so fascinating?
Speaker 5 (33:56):
And well, for one, it's just it's a it's more
immersive game. Like I've been playing Madden for like the
last ten years. I create leagues and stuff with my
friends and stuff, and we just get so angry at
each other. We get angry at the game, we get
angry at life because of the game. It's been just
so like JANKI and you know, like now games get
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patched and then patched again, and when you patch something,
it messes up something else, and so it's just been
a frustrating process. And we haven't had college we haven't
had any other football game to play for like ten.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Years, and there's been glitches. You guys just have to work.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
You just got to play through it and then you
and then like then there's exploits to the game that
friends they know how to use them, and the game can't.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
You can't cheat the system they know, they know the
way they choose.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
It, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
So this is finally a new game that has new mechanics.
Even though it was EA, A whole nother development team
worked on it for ten years, so they had all
this time to work on a really polished like game.
And it feels like football again. It doesn't feel like
I'm playing a game digitally with this, and that doesn't
feel like it feels like I feel like I'm actually
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playing football. It's challenging enough to the point that it's
not frustrating. I'm throwing controllers. It's just it just feels
like actual football. And like in right now, I'm just
playing it by myself. I don't need to get into
like competitive play because I just want to learn it
and enjoy it by myself.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Graphics are sick, graphics look great, and it's all the
new players. It's all the guys right now.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Yeah, it's all it's And that's another thing, it's like
actual the players because like now it's not. They got
they found a way around calling it NC double A.
So now it's just college football, right, so now they
can get license to the players like Shador Sanders and
Travis Hunter. That's Cret Millrow, dude, you know Dion right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Yeah, yeah. We got to meet him in his uh
literally in his office.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
You give you any advice.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
It's funny. We were like I was with Mark Henry,
Mark Henry. Yeah, it was with a bunch of the guys.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
We had a tour of the place and we were
just he was pitching them, Jacob and he was telling
them like all the scouting things where we look at
it like no, we don't look at any alignment under
six foot four. I mean it was like, oh, that
eliminates like all of my friends. So it was like yeah,
it's like it's just like they look at measurements and
stuff like what we look at what we're looking for.
It's no, like we don't look like you look in
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the league, there's no o lineman that's under six three
at all or three hundred. They gotta meet these requirements.
That's the only way you're getting even like possibly looked
at on paper. And then like I'll be at Tony
Kahn's office and he has that board with like going
into training camp and all the scouting players and stuff,
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and the letters are.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Like this small and the boards this big that goes and.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
It's like shows you every detail of like what they
looked at this player and they market and stuff like that.
You got to look at it through a magnifying glass
to go up and down the board because it's so
much stuff.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
And that's kind of.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Where college football feels like that, that the game feels
like that just being around those real guys and what
they're really look for. They kind of took that and
put it in the game, so you're like, not, they're
not too far off. It's very accurate and it's really cool.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
So they did their research.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Oh yeah, majorly, that's what it feels like.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
It feels like they took effort in and did the
research and took time and like they handled this with care.
So if like as players, like I'm not even a
big college football watcher, but this would get me into
it just by like playing the game.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
You played golf, I tried.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
I'm not really good any any sport with an extremity
like a stick, terrible at tennis, awful.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
That has a handle, that's awful, awful.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Awful, wrestling, football, and wrestling.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
I'm good at physical Yeah, I gotta I gotta, I
gotta I gotta have thed my hands. I can move
and boom, I can make the contact. I'm good at it.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
So how did you you said you got a girl?
You take her out the dinner she meets Kevin RT.
How did you meet your girl? Because when you're in
the spotlight at a.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Uh yeah, met her and like one of the bouncers
they knew me and they were like, I was like.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Who's that. He's like, oh, that's LEXI meet her. I
was like, could you know? Yeah, So he just brought
me over. He probably called her over. He's like, hey,
LEXI is some friend of mine.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Wrestling and bouncers, like something goes hand in hand. They
I don't know how it is, like they used to
be wrestlers, or they used to work for wrestlers, or
they used to work in the industry and stuff like that.
It's just really weird. So yeah, he just called her over.
He's like, this a friend of mine whatever, like you
and then we just like hit it off.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Ever since how long you all been together?
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Over a year and a half.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
She's actually when I did the the entrance at full gear.
The dancers. Oh she's one of Yeah, she was the
front left dancer.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
That's what's up. That's what that's like Taylor Swift putting
Kelsey in the video and on stage stuff.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
She'd been in a couple of music videos of mine too,
That's what's up. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
And does she travel on the road with you everywhere
you go?
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Not everywhere, but like he places, like, yeah, she'll be
under with me. That's coming to all in London with me.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
I understand why.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Yeah, I get that there for this. She was there
for like a lot of big moments over last year
and a half.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
And so do you ever call your buddies back from
middle school that you sat around the table talking about
wrestling sometimes and just be like, damn dude, like, are
you guys playing like you guys realize I am that
wrestler now.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
It's it's funny. Like they'll talk about like playing as
me in the game yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
And they're like, man, like this is so wild.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
Like I remember like we were sitting here in my
room all it was like six of us crammed into
a small little room all circle around the TV, playing
our games and like creating their guys now, like, I don't.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Have to create you here.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
There's on both games. I was in two K twenty
two and this, and.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
You're like, pick me more, I get paid more.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
I don't know if it works.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Like the more you play with Swerve, then he would
he would just sit at home and just stream himself.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
He'd just play himself out.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
He's playing college football, dude, he would put that down
for the money, No, dude, Yeah, by.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Swerve, you're the man, dude. Oh, I appreciate you, guys,
I really appreciate it. Hopefully you know we didn't bore
you to death. Aw Swerve. Follow him on Instagram? What's
your Instagram?
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Swerve confident on all social media platforms. Also, check out
my album that just came out last May. You Couldn't
be Me. I Swerve the Realist my artist's name, and
we got the new remix to Big Pressure dropping this
week by me and Flash Garments with Big h with
a bun B and West Side Gun.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Featured on it. And the music vide will be dropping soon.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
So what about the Swerve shoes.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Coming soon very very soon?
Speaker 5 (40:37):
Like trademarks have just been published and good to go.
That's the last thing he was like, when make sure
the paperwork is good so we don't want to put
him out there and then someone call it so you know,
like you had it, and then like I don't want
to do I want to once agad we put it out.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
It's out and it's good to go.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I'm a wrestler, so I love them. The look of
them I'm getting that's please, Thank you appreciate that cap.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yes, hey, when's your birthday? Yeah? Man, what's your birthday?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
September? You're getting them for me.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
We'll say they're out by then.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yeah, yeah, real soon, Swerve, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
A w Hey, pick up that belt? Yeah man? Fire, No,
that's heavy. That's happy.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
You need two hands.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
We out?
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Thanks dude, you think you hated that or what? No,
that was a good ship. Okay, I think Swerve liked
it it okay,
Alright, rocket, all right, we're right, dupe.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Hey, we're always live.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
We're live.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
I mean, hey, we got a guest, and it's a
little weird to do the intro in front of a
guest because he's like, what the hell am I getting
myself into?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
But let's do it all right, Arnold? Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
He's not here today. Oh, Arnold didn't come in now,
told the intern to take the day off. He got
too drunk on Broadway last night. So we're gonna do
it live. When are we introing the guests?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
After we do our intro and then you'll sell and
then you'll kick it over to him.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Okay, we oh the one, two, three? Sore losers?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What up, everybody? I'm lunchbox.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I know the most about sports, so I'll give you
the sports facts, my sports opinions, because I'm pretty much a.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Sports genius, y'all. It's Sison. I'm from the North. I'm
an alpha male. I live on the North side of
Nashville with a Broadway girl. A lot of farmers and
ranchers have about one hundred acres. We have two acres,
so we're not gonna sell yet. They haven't started beating
down our doors, but we won't sell. We won't sell
over to our next guest. It's swerve. What's up?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Aw World Champion. So do you walk around with the
belt everywhere you go?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Not everywhere? Can't do that everywhere? Like even still I
still kind of cover on it. Oh really Yeah, I
can't walk around that much bling all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
So when you walk in the airport, do you check
that or you carry on?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Always carry on, always carry on, never check it?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Here's it under fifty pounds?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Well you know what I mean, Like they have restrictions,
you know, like when they pick it up when it's
going through that or like wait, wait, wait, what's in here?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
And now you go through x rays.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
They could literally see like aw on it going through
the X rays. So they're like, oh, it's a belt.
They don't even check it anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Oh that's cool.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, they like check out the laptops and stuff that
just flies right through.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Yeah, yeah they sometimes ull Orlando, they just let whatever
coat through sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
But I mean I got a little blank that I wear,
and I mean it gets pinged.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You have bling.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, my necklace look at his necklace. No, his necklaces
goes off. His sunglasses go off. Yeah, the pelt goes off.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Sometimes my teeth go off to.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Now that's funny.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Now my question because like wrestling, I have so many
questions about wrestling because I've never talked to a professional wrestler.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yes, I have the Giant, Andre the Giant, I'm Bobby
Bone Show.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
No, he was never on my I never talked to
Andrea next door then anyway, So I used to go
to wrestling as a kid. Yeah, and I loved it.
Like I went, my dad, my brother and I went
and saw it. And we come home. We walk in
the door and my mom's like, how was it? And
my brother's like, I know, it's fake. I walk in
two minutes later and I'm like, mom, it's the most
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real thing you've ever seen. It's unbelievable. So how do
you guys choreographed? Do you talk like your opponent? You know,
you have a match. Do you sit down and be like, Okay,
I'm gonna do a souplex and then I'm gonna come
off the top turnbuckle, You're gonna move?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
How does that work?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
To keep that feeling of me that you had leaving, Yes,
that's how it is. It's like that's how we kind
of like, I like to keep that feeling tours and
fans and I'm just.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Gonna remove the forest wall real quick.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
You gotta, you gotta, I want you, I want you to.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
I want people to wonder how it's done, okay, And
that's that's what keeps that feeling for people that are
like that, are like, come to a show that they
haven't seen in a while and they're just like, oh
my god, this is the most real feeling. Then why
would you want to ruin that?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Because it's a pretty it's impressive, Like people don't realize
how athletic wrestling is.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Absolutely that leads me to my question, are you ready? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I'm ready for it.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
If you go on a vacation, because I went to
the Dominican Republican saw Dame Lillard. He was working out.
Do you work out the vacation or you the guy
that just lays on the beach?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Oh? You get a mix of both.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
I don't go like two and a half hour sessions,
but you know, you get a less a little pump
in there, like an hour hour and a half.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
What's a workout for you? Is it just pumping weights
or is it?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah? Yeah, for me, it's like strength training for me.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
That's where I'm at right now because that's where my
body is and a lot of those like a lot
of those heavy strength Sometimes I'll be like two and
a half three hours in the gym, and it's just
like strength training. It builds those joints in those ligaments
and stuff so they're not as like sensitive with like
pulling something tearing and all that. I don't have any injuries,
(04:25):
you know, like ever since I've been in AW I've
been like one hundred percent healthy. So that's why I
trained the way I do, to make sure like I
have the endurance for that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
That leads me to my next question. So I can bench,
I can push two twenty five. How much can you?
Speaker 5 (04:40):
I've done three fifteen on the max. Yeah, but I
don't do it often. I hit it and I was like,
all right, I can do it, and now I do
like two twenty five to forty.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, because that's two plates on each sid.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah, So I just hove around that and
I don't go that high anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
What made you fall in love with wrestling is that
is that you wanted to become a wrestler. Because you
watched it as a kid, like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Yeah, yeah, honestly it was honestly the video games okay, yeah,
like me and my friends, like we bonded over lunch
table talk like, oh, you watched wrestling last night. I
didn't see it, and then like, so you missed out
on the whole conversation at the table, so like a lot.
So I started watching wrestling because of them, and then
we started hanging out, and then they had the games,
and every new game that came out, we huddled over
(05:24):
at Buddy Eric's house and we all created characters and
we wrestled and played the games and stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
So the video games, do you make money on those?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I didn't make money?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
What about the ones now? I saw like AI three
D characters of you. Do you make any money off
of that?
Speaker 5 (05:37):
As far as like meet my likeness on them? Oh
yeah yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Figururines?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
What about your shoes? Yeah, those shoes are sweet? Are
those just wrestling or can you wear those every day?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
If you wear them? Just fashion?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
But they kind of look like wrestling though too.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, but that's the beauty of it.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
You can wear it with an outfit and you like
the guy mash who created them and Flash designed them.
They're designed to be all purpose. You can wear them
in the gym. You can also wear them like and
it would outfit and not out on the town. But
you also wear them. You can play basketball on them
if you wanted to. And then like you're gonna be
have them in a match?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Are they on sale right now?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Coming soon? We're gonna drop a link very soon, very.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
So you and me wearing those shoes around the office.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Oh dude, I'm gold. I have a bunch of different colorways.
I already have my second colorway come out, the one
that I wore Forbidden Door, the gold with the gum bottom,
like as I just saw the black. Those those were
the first ones we unveiled. So those came out and
now that was a dynasty. And now Afterbidden Door, like
a month ago, we just dropped the new color away,
the gold one.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
So if I wanted to wear a pair of those
out on Broadway? What is it? What are they gonna
run me?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
How much? Okay?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Thanks?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So they're they're I mean that's expensive shoe. How much
did you have in the like, say, like do you
get to pick out the color patterns or I kind.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Of like had like, Okay, this is one I'm gonna
wear for the show, and the gear that's the concepts
and he was like I got something that and he'll
just do it. Flash kind of designed them from square one.
Him and Mash got together like what they like.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
They went through like what are the shoes that I like? Yeah,
those when I prefer and.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I like the you know, the Jordan Wanes type, you know,
the mids with the flats and flat bottoms, very slim,
slim souls on them, and they were like, oh, okay, cool,
what if we did this? Then they just start throwing
the ideas again. So I kind of like stood out
and then let them just create and whatever they created,
then I probably would modify off of that and I
(07:31):
would come and bring my you know, opinion on this.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
IM like this didn't feel good.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Just kind of felt like this, like I feel like
we should do this on the tongue, We should put
this design that logo, and I got a guy that
can make that logo for this.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Then I come in after that.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
But the first one was just prototypes and they were
on seale, but now they're going to be on sale
very soon.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Dude, we need him for our merch man.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I mean he knows how to design.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I'm not a merch guy. I'm an idea guy. I
get a guy. Yeah, because we want to.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Done well and for the you want have done well
and efficient, you get the guy for it.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Right, because we tried to design merchants, Like we're such idiots.
We're like, oh, we need to get a new merch
we need to get a new merchant. Here we are
two years later. Guess how much new merch we've come
out with.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
None.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
That's why you get a guy for it. Man.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
If you like keep second guessing, the second guesses like,
we gotta do it, we gotta do it, and it's
just assigning somebody to do it, and it's already done.
It's already like boom. Three weeks can turn into three
years very quickly.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Question about the wrestling part of it. He goes the
trampoline park with his kids.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Is this a dumb idea or a good idea? Would
you ever go to a trampoline park to work on
your next moves? Uh me, No, no, because kids are there.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
No, not just that, but like if you add other
elements like a trampoline and like a and other enhanced environments.
I would say, like, like, it takes the unnatural out
of the wrestling, got it.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
I like to keep the natural as much as I can.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
What's like, oh, this could really happen, So me, I
like to keep as much like this is my body
naturally goes. I don't need this to make this happen.
I can just do it anywhere anyhow with anyone.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And you're like jacked on your own. So I always
wonder people, do you have security since you're already ripped up.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
It depends on the events with us today. No, I'm
I'm pretty Jill.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
He's like, I'm not worried about you, like you little sissies.
We're not worried about you.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Pretty cool like that we drove around the neighborhood. I'm like, oh,
I think we could. I don't need to call a body.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Now you need me to move over? Okay, So I
were filming this, I wasn't in the camera. So going
back to your lunchroom discussions about wrestling, who were the
wrestlers of your like that you were like watching and
playing in the video game, and you're like, that is
who I like, you know what I mean? Like basketball
players like, oh, I modeled my game after Lebron, I
modeled my game at OKD.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Who did you watch? And we're like, man, I love
the way they wrestled.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
For me, Ray Mysterio was like the primary number one,
and then Edge like my guy or Adam Copeland now
just because like he was like the taller guy and
I was always taller. Then like I was too tall
to be like a Ray Mysterio. So like like Copeland
just kind of felt like that was like man, like
the stature, the storytelling. There's a lot of his movements
(10:14):
and his physique and his style. I was like, really
I always just gravitated towards and then like Ray's slickness,
the creativity, the colorful elegance, you know, the entrance, all
those things kind of like I just adapted to quickly.
And then the tattoos to me, like like Rai's tattoos
(10:35):
was always like really dope to me, you know. And
then like so that's kind of where like I adapted,
like just the fandom, and then like the actual studying
of the art of being a professional wrestle was like
more Adam Copeland style. When I actually got into wrestling
and training and studying tape.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So back in the day when we used to watch wrestling,
girls would flash sometimes.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah, yeah, it was major.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So do they still do that now?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I don't see it?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Oh get you locked in?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
No?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
I see everything I see. I literally look around. I
hope to see it, but I don't. But I don't.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
I don't. I don't see that. I don't.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
I don't really get that. We don't get that at
our shows too much. We do get some wild like
ladies and men, but nothing over the top. There have
been people that ran into the ring though it's happened,
like happened to Daniel Garcia earlier this year, like like
like a but like like a chick or a dude
runs dude, Like girls ain't running in Like.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Why are they running into the ring? Do they want
to give them a hug? Are they trying to?
Speaker 5 (11:30):
I've always always wanted that, like why what what were
you hoping to accomplish?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Like like guys jumping on the soccer.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Field and run around, like what, what's what's the goal here?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
What we what are we trying to accomplish?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
You know? Because like when they run on the football field,
I want them to just lay them out when they
if they jump in the ring, are you told like, hey,
just back up and security will handle it, or do
they not even go over that protocol with.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
If they're If they're on you, you gotta defend yourself,
Like as a wrestler, you have to defend yourself. Did
they get close to you to put hands on you?
You gotta lay them down, like you're you're a competitor. Yeah,
like you wouldn't see a fan run into a UFC
ring and try to fight, Like no, they know this
is a death sentence. Good, so you gotta lay them down.
You gotta put them down then allow security to do
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their thing. But if they're like if if you see
them coming and they're like a good ten feet away
from you, you see it, just backed up, get security. But
if they're like already you don't see them and they
already make contact with you, you got to defend yourself.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Do you ever in the middle of a wrestling match
that like your opponent hit you and you damn you
hit me too hard?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Like what do you oh all the time all the time, but.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
You can't show it right or do you like is
that those facial expressions sometimes they're like oh man, that
really hurt.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Okay, hold on, give me a second.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
I'll I'll use that and like make it into a
part of the match. A lot of times I'll improv things.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Like that nutshot accidentally, No, that's what I'm How often
is the nut do you get hitting the nuts?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
And we don't really me barely?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Ever? Do you throw a sock in there?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Wow, no legit.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
What you see that's the real package. That's the the
swear making package.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Nothing but he uh, the girls like this may be
not very informed on my part. Like do you guys
ever wrestle the girls where it's known, you know, you
can't really touch their boobs? They got to watch. Yeah,
it's known obviously. You know, you just watch out for
the implan, Like how does that work as far.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
As like men wrestling to women or the women wrestling period?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I men wrestling women, you're gonna accidentally touch a boob?
Speaker 5 (13:33):
You know, we don't look at it as like like
touching inappropriately. We look as like two competitors like performing.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
You know, so our boss accidentally he was in an
All Star game and he accidentally slapped an ass and
it happened to be a female. And he's a Malefa.
It was on a celebrity field though it.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Was I mean, no, that's not and that's not a
competitive nature when you go to your parents and you say,
all right, look, this military thing is great and all,
but I think I'm gonna, you know, get out of
the military.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I'm gonna get out of the reserves. I want to
be a wrestler.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
So I was doing it both at the same time.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
You were already training when you were doing the reserves.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Like I went to I was like two weeks out
of high school. I went right to the military. I
like took a bus, took a flight down to Fort Jackson,
South Carolina, did my basic training, and took a bus
from there to Fort Gordon and Georgia in Augusta, Georgia.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
So I did that and then came back home.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
So I was a reservist and then so I was
like doing the reservist thing. And then I was like,
I'm gonna I want to pursue a dream because I
always had military to fall back on in case this
all falls through. So I just did both for like
six seven years. Then I was started getting ahead with wrestling.
I was traveling more, I was going overseas. I was
like really starting to make like some type of income
(14:54):
to stabilize myself and then to feed my kids as well.
And so I just like, if I put all my
focus into this, like you kind of want to abandon
that safety net because this is like you take that away.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
You gotta fly. Yeah, you got to learn to fly.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
So, so which was harder military or wrestling?
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Military is not as hard. It's just because it's so
it's so directed. It's literally like follow this, do this,
do this, and you get this okay, and if you
do that, you you can succeed.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
You can have like a very feasible military career.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
It's like furniture.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
You follow directions, directions, you're gonna be Yeah, it's very simple. Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Some people like to buck the system and they don't
get the results they're looking for them Like, well you
didn't follow this, you thought you knew better, So just
follow your the system rather than try to bucket and
create your own, right.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
So military actually helped me, know learn that.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
In wrestling, it's like, oh, I just do these things
and you know I'll be up that that will get
me a solid career. But I didn't want to solve
where I wanted to exceed that, I wanted to extra
like I wanted to make a great career. So now
it was for me, it was like tapping into those
things to like exceed the potentially exceed, do more than
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what's asked of me.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Did you ever wrestle in high school?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
No? No?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
No, wow, see I did though, so I kind of
have one leg up. No.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I mean those that makes it harder because you're doing
a different type of wrestling and you're I mean.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
It's different types of instincts.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Because there's like UFC, there's wrestling, and there's those.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Guys actually struggle to transition to pro wrestling a lot
more and in a lot of cases.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Do you ever do you look at the UFC and
I think I could do that?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
No?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
No, No, I have tremendous respect for what those guys
do in MMA, and I've wrestled like Matt Riddle and
guys like that who are like you know, like legit
like UFC fighters, MMA guys, and those guys are just
different animals, different beasts, you know, And I have utmost
respect for what they do. That my mental like creativity
and thinking and instincts is way different from what MMA's
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guys are and that's just a different type of instinct
you got to tap into with that.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So tell me this. After an event, you know, you
got your wrestling thing, you do it at a big
arena or whatever. You got to be juiced up, you
know after do you just go to the hotel and
go to bed or you go party?
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Oh I'm not a party or like that.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I've hung out and like, you know, I don't really
go out unless I'm with like people that I haven't
seen in a while. It's like a momentous occasion or like,
you know, you got your lady with you, you want
to take her out? You know she don't, y'all want
to just she doesn't want to. She wore this nice outfit.
Let's go right, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
So that's the only times I would like, really go out.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Have you been invited to, say, like a badass party?
Because everybody goes that white party? Michael Rubin, Like, what's
an amazing one that you've been invited to?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I mean just in Vegas, I was like, my buddy's
Mayweather was there.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Me invited me, Like, my buddy invited me to come
out and go to He had a friend that owned
some of the resorts, Resort World Vegas. So there was
a part of a club party going on, and we
went through and I got to meet Ludacris, like like
tap up Ludacris and then for him, then t Pain
comes out, and then later on like just met up
(18:18):
with Mercedes at the and all these people at this
other club.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
We're just resort hopping in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Now in Vegas a little bit. Uh, you know, the
dice around play some black jackers.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
So I look at the tables, I'm like, that's cool.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
You can obviously see he keeps his money because he's
iced out and everything to watch everything.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I reinvest my money.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Okay, reinvest. Yeah, So who are the Have you had
celebrities come up to you? Like, is there anyone that
they come up to you? Like, dude, I'm a huge fan.
I love like you're wrestling and you're just.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Like, damn, this person watches me wrestle.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Steven Emmel was really dope out of a signing. He
was an Arrow okay from the show Arrow because he's
friends with Cody and so, like he's been invested in
wrestling for years and I was doing a signing.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
I was walking into the green room just like me
meet some people.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
And then Steven Mill like swerve, gets up off the
table and I'm like looking at the cast of Arrow,
which I loved the show.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
And he's like he just introduced. This guy's a badass man.
This guy just took staples to the face.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
And I was like, I was there, ken Jong. I
got to meet him finally. He's been at shows but
I never was like seeing them, but it was like
ken Jong was like what where? And I missed him?
So like after the show at full gear, he just
like bowed down to me, like this is one of
the funniest guys in the world.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I'm like this guy was like like.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Guy from Freaking like Hangover, Hangover the community, like one
of the doctor ken like we name him. This is
like you name it. He's been done everything. And this
guy's like like Rick Rubiny.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
That respects me and loves me. I was like, how
that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
So it's like really interesting seeing the guys that were
already fans before you like introduced and then you create
make them a fan.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Like in your phone though, so I randomly have Andy
Roddick's phone number. Yeah, who's Who's somebody's number you.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Got more so Instagram for sure, like Rick Ross like
and this stuff whenever I want and.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Just say what up? Just check you in, like hey,
how's your day?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Bun Bee like the text like oh okay, yeah, one's dope.
There's a lot of I think of some like Big Ones, Cardi.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Bayl, The Butcher's Dopees, Taylor Swift.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yah, I'm getting up there with like these artists and stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Now like country. Do you listen to country music at all?
Not at all? Okay, but he does have a rap
album coming out, I know.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
I mean like this is my second one, oh second,
it's my fifth. But so like I did two three
group albums, my solo one just came out last May,
and now me and Flash Garments, who's done Big Pressure dropping.
We're dropping a record this week and then that's the
Big Pressure Trill remix with Bunbe and Westside Gun on that.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
So you're just busy all the time. Is there any
like chilling you? Do you chill at all?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Or is it.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Always with my kids when I get my girls? Okay,
yeah that's my chill time. Girl Dad two girls, yeah,
fourteen and twelve.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Oh so you're in the like, yeah, like you're getting
that age where like guys are gonna come knocking like
want to take your daughter out to Like.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
It's it's it's it's getting, it's getting.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
It's getting a little challenging now because like now my
oldest is like remembering all the times I had to
miss out because of all the time on the road
to get to this point. So she's starting to have
those feelings and we had to have those conversations. So
it's getting tough with that. And now my youngest is
like wanting to be more attached to me, but she
lives in Pennsylvania. I live in Florida, and I'm like, hey,
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like whenever you say the word, I will create a
room and it's yours and you can like finish school
down here with me.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
What's up because you're in Florida.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah, Now, is there any like do you have any
dreams of like the rock he moves from wrestling movie Star?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Do you have any acting dreams outside?
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Like oh yeah, yeah for sure, Like I'm I've we're
linked with the Lucas brothers. They they got two oscars
from working on Judas and The Black Messiah. We in
the middle of doing a documentary with them. They've shot
all the way since World's End and picking up everything
since then. They shot the me winning the world title
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here Hey.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Because hey, Sore Losers isn't big enough for the Lucas brothers.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
They want a a w We have a lot of
like those we could tap into at any point. We're
just it's just like it's all about timing and monetizing
it to the bit the most we can is.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
We don't want to just like link up like hey,
what's up? We just hanging out.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
No, we want to like come in like all right,
this is what the ideas we're going to bring this,
This gets to that, this goes to here we have this,
this goes like you want to bring all these pieces
of why this is the best decision you can make
to really tap on those doors and then bring like
revisit and have those conversations.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Doesn't want to waste time, no modetization with the sore Losers,
Like why am I here?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Because we're I mean, we already talked about your shoes
coming out in the new album. I mean aw now,
tell me, like wrestling money wise, when you start.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Out, how poor are you just like grinding.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Like making maybe twenty five dollars in a match, sometimes fifty.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
And what is that to pay? Is that bi weekly
or you get a lump.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Sun I was like, you don't get paid unless you wrestle.
That's like on independent, like just starting out independent and
stuff like that, and so.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
You just wrestle seven days a week just hoping to
get paid.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Well, you want to travel, That's the first thing you
want to do, is just like you don't want to
just wrestle for like six years in one spot. Ever,
Like even if you're at AW or a TNA or WW,
you don't want to wrestle one spot too.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
You don't grow and wrestling in that one spot.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
So even on the entry levels in the Pennance shows,
you want to you want to kind of find like
a tri state area where you're like, all right, we're
doing Pennsylvania on Thursday. Then there's a show in Rochester,
New York on Friday. Then we can get to Virginia Saturday,
and then you hit like, you know, West Virginia on Sunday.
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Whether the shows are big or small, at least you're
moving and getting around. And then so finally your name
becomes pretty synonymous with that area.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Then you gotta get to Florida.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Then you gotta get to territories of Ohio, then you
gotta get to Nebraska.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Yeah, you want to, like you want to, You just want,
like at the first three to five years, you want
to just get on the road, no matter how much
little money you're making or you know, you just want
to get seen, get your name out there. And so
now when you become something later, those fans, I remember
when he into that little podunk marketplace, show and stuff
in front of us, and now you got that fan
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for life, They're gonna they're gonna travel when you finally
make it the stadiums, they're gonna be the ones like
coming to your conventions and stuff because they you made
a memory with them at the small places, So now
they're going to come to the big places later on.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Like do you have a money manager, Yes, you have
a business manager?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Do you have a manager?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (25:24):
I got something, I got every little thing, I have
somebody overlooking.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
It and some said clean person, yep, a person, a
gardener all that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
So do you have a night nanny?
Speaker 4 (25:37):
No, no, not yet.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Do you have a do you have a gated community?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Like yeah, h Okay, is it.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Hard for you where you live to just go like like,
can you just go to the mall?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
That's pretty See, that's that's great because you have a
level of fame where you're making great money because you've
got a gardener, you got a cleaner, you got you know,
a chef, you got a personal trainer, you all this,
and guess what, you can still go out to eat
and no one bothers you.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
I'll still occasionally get like, hey, swear man, how's it going,
or like somebody was like like I didn't want to
bother you, but I appreciate what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
They keep moving.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
It's not like I'm always like get a photo or
something like that.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
It's it's not that crazy yet.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Is there places you turn people down for photo? Like
is there somewhere like Okay, if someone asked me.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
For airports like certain times, certain hours and stuff, I'm like, oh,
that's a little inappropriate.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
I'm just going to keep moving. But thank you. I
appreciate that you're a fan of support.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
But now it's not the opportunity time or if I'm
with my kids, yeah like that.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, Now, do you have fans that have come up
to you and like, hey, look we took this picture
five years ago. Here's yeah years ago, here's us. Two
years here's us. So they've kind of grown up with you.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Yeah yeah, like I know, I'll no because of my
hair length, like oh like here down here, Oh, start
touching my shoulders here?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
So why do you still want photos?
Speaker 5 (26:57):
We've got every stage in my life now the last
six years.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Who acts crazier? Grown men or kids?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
No? Grown men?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Explain that to me like I could.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I couldn't explain.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Well, kids are kids like kids are kids.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I get it, Like I mean, I mean, I will
never forget going to WWF when it was WWF when
I was a kid and the bushwhackers came out and
they're doing there. I don't know if you know who
the bushwhackers are, and I got to rub one of
their heads because you know, and I went to the
railing and I will never forget it as a kid.
But there was grown adults next to me. No, there
was grown adults next to me rubbing their heads. And
(27:37):
I was just like, as a eight year old, I'm like,
you guys are adults.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Like I said, wrestling brings out the inner child and
everybody that's what it is. Yeah, Like even like I like,
I don't see I don't see adults act like kids
when they meet NFL players or they meet NBA players
because they didn't grow up with them. They kind of
just like, oh, you were good at you're thirty. I'm
thirty years old. We kind of grew up together. But
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as for something Wrestling's like I grew up as a
kid and now like as like I didn't grow up
with you. You were an adult when I was a kid.
Now you're like like up here and now I'm an adult,
but just still remembers you as a kid.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
You know. It's kind of different with sports and stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Who is your your team?
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I'm a La Rams fan.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
You guys got one though a couple of years out I.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Got I met I got to meet Aaron Donald that
night too. Did you really on the field at the
banquet celebration where you had the game? I didn't get
to go to the game, but I wasn't in LA
and was watching at a party friends party in LA
and like, I'm like the game, they won the game.
I was hype out in my Aaron Donald jersey. I
went back to my Airbnb and then like I was
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like laying down.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
I was like, oh yeah, we did it. Cool winding down.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
And then like I get a texta with like my buddy,
uh Jason. You know Nita Strauss. They just got married,
Jason need to just get married. She plays guitar for
the Rams every home game, so they get a ring
when they won the super Bowl and they so he
was like, yo, man, Ramsey, you watch the super Bowl.
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Was like like yeah, it was great, man, I'm actually
in town. He's like, what, I'm at the party right now.
I got a guest pass.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
If you want to come. I was like, I put
my clothes right back.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Aaron Donald, Jersey Uber and over and like I got
access to like this like like party with the players
and like Sean McVay and everybody was there.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
And then like he wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
I did need to get to see Cooper, but like
I was like walking around and I was like, oh man,
this is cool. I walked a downd for like an
hour and I was like this cool, but like yeah,
I think it was like getting late. I was like
I'm gonna head to back out and then was like
walking past, I see like Aaron Donald with like two
big security guys and just hanging out with his wife
and like some friends.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I was like, oh snappers Aaron Donald and.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I'm wearing this jersey and I'm like I just go
say hi, and so there, yeah, yeah, say hi man.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yeah see. I can't take no for though. But like
I was like, cool, I don't need it photos, no.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Man, But a photo didn't happen. Yeah, you know, if
you don't put it on Instagram, I don't know if
it really happened.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
It's one of those things. I'm like, I don't care
if you believe me or not.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Like I have that experience and like that's cool with me,
but like that was just an awesome night.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
That's like I was at a club in Vegas one
time and I was peeing and I turned around to
leave and Chuck O'Dell walks up with the urinal next
to me, and I'm just like, what in the world,
Like he was hung? I didn't I didn't know if
he was hung or not. I don't know because there's
a partition, but the fact that I was in the
bathroom with Chuck Ladell, I was just like, what are
(30:38):
you doing coming to the normal bathroom in the club?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
In Las Vegas, Like you're Chuck Ladell got to go somewhere.
But I know, but I figure they got VIP bathrooms
for VIP people.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
But these guys are just regular people, man. I know.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
But as a huge fan, you know what I mean,
you don't expect to see Chuck Oadell at a urinal
in Las Vegas. So like I was walking through one
time and Mike Tyson was walking through the club and it.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Was so like, I'm in, I take my girl downtown
to Tampa for a date night, and like our restaurant's there,
but I got to use the bathroom. We both got
use the bathroom. So're like, oh, let's just stop in
this hotel, just use the bathroom and walk over to
the restaurant, right, And so I just stop in, like
I go and use the bathroom and I come back
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out and she's like waiting for me outside. She was like, oh,
Kevin Hart just walked by. I'm like what, Like she
was like, yeah, like thirty seconds ago used to walk
by and he told me high and I was like,
how's it going, And they just walked right past me.
I'm like in the middle of just like the open
hotel just Kevin Hart and then but I missed it
because I'm like, you missed it. I'm washing my hands.
If I didn't wash my hands, i'd meet Kevin Hart exactly.
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I mean if I was a slob, I would have
met Kevin Hart.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
So you when you're not wrestling, you sound like you're
like a homebody very much.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
So like I'm only out if I have to do
business stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
So you're not like, you know, wrestling, you're on, you're
putting on a performance. You're really out, you know what
I mean. Like, so then when you just go home,
you're just like you're kind of quiet, like.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yeah, Like it's it's like being a socialite like that.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
It's exhausting to introverts.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
So because we got to put out more energy than
we're used to, we would like to conserve our energy
and keep it.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
But like coming out.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Speaking with you guys, then coming out and then do
this and meet with these people, that's like I'm expending
a lot of energy. So when I'm home, I bought
a home for a year, I'm like, I want to
be in it. I want to experience it, I want
to feel it, Like this is my first bought home.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
So I want to like be in it, you know, so.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
So like if you do like sports, so if you
wanted to make a call, say World Series, NBA Finals, NHL,
because you got NHL teams down there in Florida, if
you want to, you could just make a call and
go to any of those games.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's or I'll throw out a pitch
at them or say something like.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
What you just did a pitch the other day, didn't you, Florida?
Didn't you do mout Marlins?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
That was an old one, but right before.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Dynasty, I did the Saint Louis Arnold's got it the
first pitch there?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Did you get that thing over? I was a pitchlicking.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
My pitchers are pretty good.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Did you play growing up?
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:07):
I tried out and I made the team, but I
was I just like, I wasn't a big into playing it,
So I just my mom wanted me to just do
something outside after school, so I just switched from that
and I went.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Like did some Like there was like.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
This uh community center that had basketball, so I did
the basketball and then I went to do track my
senior year and I was just like I wasn't even
that good at it. I didn't like really Once again,
I didn't train a lot craziness for it, So I
just did it because it was something to do after school.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
So what a swerve doing is free time? Like what
does swerve do?
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Play college football? Now?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Okay, see we just talked about this on the last
Tell me maybe I all the allure of being a
college football coach and doing a dynasty. Tell me why
that is so fascinating?
Speaker 5 (33:56):
And well, for one, it's just it's a it's more
immersive game. Like I've been playing Madden for like the
last ten years. I create leagues and stuff with my
friends and stuff, and we just get so angry at
each other. We get angry at the game, we get
angry at life because of the game. It's been just
so like JANKI and you know, like now games get
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patched and then patched again, and when you patch something,
it messes up something else, and so it's just been
a frustrating process. And we haven't had college we haven't
had any other football game to play for like ten.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Years, and there's been glitches. You guys just have to work.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
You just got to play through it and then you
and then like then there's exploits to the game that
friends they know how to use them, and the game can't.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
You can't cheat the system they know, they know the
way they choose.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
It, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
So this is finally a new game that has new mechanics.
Even though it was EA, A whole nother development team
worked on it for ten years, so they had all
this time to work on a really polished like game.
And it feels like football again. It doesn't feel like
I'm playing a game digitally with this, and that doesn't
feel like it feels like I feel like I'm actually
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playing football. It's challenging enough to the point that it's
not frustrating. I'm throwing controllers. It's just it just feels
like actual football. And like in right now, I'm just
playing it by myself. I don't need to get into
like competitive play because I just want to learn it
and enjoy it by myself.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Graphics are sick, graphics look great, and it's all the
new players. It's all the guys right now.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Yeah, it's all it's And that's another thing, it's like
actual the players because like now it's not. They got
they found a way around calling it NC double A.
So now it's just college football, right, so now they
can get license to the players like Shador Sanders and
Travis Hunter. That's Cret Millrow, dude, you know Dion right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Yeah, yeah. We got to meet him in his uh
literally in his office.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
You give you any advice.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
It's funny. We were like I was with Mark Henry,
Mark Henry. Yeah, it was with a bunch of the guys.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
We had a tour of the place and we were
just he was pitching them, Jacob and he was telling
them like all the scouting things where we look at
it like no, we don't look at any alignment under
six foot four. I mean it was like, oh, that
eliminates like all of my friends. So it was like yeah,
it's like it's just like they look at measurements and
stuff like what we look at what we're looking for.
It's no, like we don't look like you look in
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the league, there's no o lineman that's under six three
at all or three hundred. They gotta meet these requirements.
That's the only way you're getting even like possibly looked
at on paper. And then like I'll be at Tony
Kahn's office and he has that board with like going
into training camp and all the scouting players and stuff,
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and the letters are.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Like this small and the boards this big that goes and.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
It's like shows you every detail of like what they
looked at this player and they market and stuff like that.
You got to look at it through a magnifying glass
to go up and down the board because it's so
much stuff.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
And that's kind of.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Where college football feels like that, that the game feels
like that just being around those real guys and what
they're really look for. They kind of took that and
put it in the game, so you're like, not, they're
not too far off. It's very accurate and it's really cool.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
So they did their research.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Oh yeah, majorly, that's what it feels like.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
It feels like they took effort in and did the
research and took time and like they handled this with care.
So if like as players, like I'm not even a
big college football watcher, but this would get me into
it just by like playing the game.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
You played golf, I tried.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
I'm not really good any any sport with an extremity
like a stick, terrible at tennis, awful.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
That has a handle, that's awful, awful.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Awful, wrestling, football, and wrestling.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
I'm good at physical Yeah, I gotta I gotta, I
gotta I gotta have thed my hands. I can move
and boom, I can make the contact. I'm good at it.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
So how did you you said you got a girl?
You take her out the dinner she meets Kevin RT.
How did you meet your girl? Because when you're in
the spotlight at a.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Uh yeah, met her and like one of the bouncers
they knew me and they were like, I was like.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Who's that. He's like, oh, that's LEXI meet her. I
was like, could you know? Yeah, So he just brought
me over. He probably called her over. He's like, hey,
LEXI is some friend of mine.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Wrestling and bouncers, like something goes hand in hand. They
I don't know how it is, like they used to
be wrestlers, or they used to work for wrestlers, or
they used to work in the industry and stuff like that.
It's just really weird. So yeah, he just called her over.
He's like, this a friend of mine whatever, like you
and then we just like hit it off.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Ever since how long you all been together?
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Over a year and a half.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
She's actually when I did the the entrance at full gear.
The dancers. Oh she's one of Yeah, she was the
front left dancer.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
That's what's up. That's what that's like Taylor Swift putting
Kelsey in the video and on stage stuff.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
She'd been in a couple of music videos of mine too,
That's what's up. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
And does she travel on the road with you everywhere
you go?
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Not everywhere, but like he places, like, yeah, she'll be
under with me. That's coming to all in London with me.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
I understand why.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Yeah, I get that there for this. She was there
for like a lot of big moments over last year
and a half.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
And so do you ever call your buddies back from
middle school that you sat around the table talking about
wrestling sometimes and just be like, damn dude, like, are
you guys playing like you guys realize I am that
wrestler now.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
It's it's funny. Like they'll talk about like playing as
me in the game yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
And they're like, man, like this is so wild.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
Like I remember like we were sitting here in my
room all it was like six of us crammed into
a small little room all circle around the TV, playing
our games and like creating their guys now, like, I don't.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Have to create you here.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
There's on both games. I was in two K twenty
two and this, and.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
You're like, pick me more, I get paid more.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
I don't know if it works.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Like the more you play with Swerve, then he would
he would just sit at home and just stream himself.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
He'd just play himself out.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
He's playing college football, dude, he would put that down
for the money, No, dude, Yeah, by.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Swerve, you're the man, dude. Oh, I appreciate you, guys,
I really appreciate it. Hopefully you know we didn't bore
you to death. Aw Swerve. Follow him on Instagram? What's
your Instagram?
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Swerve confident on all social media platforms. Also, check out
my album that just came out last May. You Couldn't
be Me. I Swerve the Realist my artist's name, and
we got the new remix to Big Pressure dropping this
week by me and Flash Garments with Big h with
a bun B and West Side Gun.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Featured on it. And the music vide will be dropping soon.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
So what about the Swerve shoes.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Coming soon very very soon?
Speaker 5 (40:37):
Like trademarks have just been published and good to go.
That's the last thing he was like, when make sure
the paperwork is good so we don't want to put
him out there and then someone call it so you know,
like you had it, and then like I don't want
to do I want to once agad we put it out.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
It's out and it's good to go.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I'm a wrestler, so I love them. The look of
them I'm getting that's please, Thank you appreciate that cap.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yes, hey, when's your birthday? Yeah? Man, what's your birthday?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
September? You're getting them for me.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
We'll say they're out by then.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yeah, yeah, real soon, Swerve, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
A w Hey, pick up that belt? Yeah man? Fire, No,
that's heavy. That's happy.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
You need two hands.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
We out?
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Thanks dude, you think you hated that or what? No,
that was a good ship. Okay, I think Swerve liked
it it okay,
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