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August 11, 2025 38 mins

In this episode we talk about a savage move Lunchbox's Dad pulled when he was dating Lunchbox's Mom and how it shaped the future of their relationship. Lunchbox reveals how he used to scam his old employer by getting paid but not working and Ray reveals how he used bail out of work to hit the bars. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I got it. Yeah, did you hit it?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Good? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:04):
What's wrong?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
No? I just so you and me both don't keep calendars.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
What are you wearing on your own?

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Just a little thing I wear when I'm not around you, guys?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Are you trying something new?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
No? I did this. I do this all the time
when I'm not around you. Guys. Got it? Okay, you
and me both don't keep a calendar, and I think
it's hilarious. So what that does is it keeps me
from making all these appointments. So my wife will say, hey,
do you want to go over to my cousins on Saturday?
Then on Sunday do you want to do this? And
then on Monday? Are you cool with doing this with?
You know what? I don't keep a calendar, so I
can only do about one or two things a week

(00:37):
so that I remember to do it. And I just
busted you for not keeping a calendar.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
You're right. I my wife, this is what she does.
She gets mad at me for not keeping a calendar,
so she set up a I guess it's a Google calendar,
I don't really know what it is, or an iPhone calendar,
and she puts stuff on there but here's the thing.
I never check it, and so I still ask her, Hey,
do we have anything going on on Saturday? And she's like,

(01:04):
I have it on the calendar that we have Jim's
seventh birthday. And I say, you know that, I do
not look at a calendar, and she gets upset because
she goes through the hard work of trying to map
everything out. I tried to have a calendar one time
in college. I had two jobs during the summer. I

(01:27):
was an orientation leader, and so my other job was
at Walmart or maybe it was Sam's Club, one of
the two fifty. Now it was definitely Walmart at this point,
and I said, you know what, I'm gonna get organized
for once, and I bought a planner, like one of
those little planners, and I wrote down every day I

(01:47):
had to be at orientation and at what time. That way,
I could go to Walmart and be like, Okay, on Tuesday,
I could come in at five o'clock. On Wednesday, I
could come in at three point thirty. And I had
an all for the entire summer. I sat down, spent
an evening in my apartment doing this, filling this out.

(02:08):
Literally loser, I know, trust me. I felt like a
loser for doing this, but I finally decided to get
my life in order because before that, I had two
jobs where I worked for the Spurs and for Walmart,
and I would forget, Oh Spurs game is this day,
like on a Saturday at two o'clock, and I'd be

(02:28):
scheduled at Walmart.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
And I'd go to the boss.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
And be like, hey, man, I got to be over
at this job, and he's like, sorry, I can't change it.
So what I would do is I would just come
in at seven am and work an earlier shift and
they wouldn't know. But I just left him hanging dry
when I was supposed to be there at two. Pro tip,
so you pro todode, let me tell I'll tell you
pro tip about Walmart. They never know when you are there.

(02:51):
Literally have no idea. Like I literally would go in
at seven am when I'm supposed to be there at
two and work till one and then get off and
go to the Spurs and work for them, and they
would have no idea.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh, that's funny, you're in here early. They never schedule anybody.
Oh that's cool. Hey, how's it going. I'm Sarah.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, Are you a new Are you a new guy?

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Nah?

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Man been here And just like on the schedule, doesn't
say we have any cart guys scheduled this early. Don't
worry about the schedule. We don't go by that. I mean,
I would get off my orientation job that I had
written down everything in the planner. I'd get off at five,
go clock in at five point thirty at Walmart. I
would leave Walmart, get in my vehicle, drive to a

(03:31):
sit down restaurant where there's a waiter or waitress, a hostess,
all that meet my other friends from orientation staff, have
a meal, be gone for an hour, hour and twenty minutes,
and then get in my vehicle and drive back to Walmart.
And they would have no idea.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
That I was gone, but you were clocked out. No,
I was clocked in.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I literally drove there literally, because I would get off
the orientation at five, drive there, clock in at five thirty,
walk back out to the parking lot, get in my vehicle,
and drive to the restaurant because there was no time
to eat between five and five thirty when I had

(04:16):
to be at Walmart, so I would literally drive there
clock in. Make sure I'm getting paid and drive to
the restaurant, eat, come back and they would have no
idea I was gone.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
You must have been banking. It was so nice. I
was dipping, double dipping, double duty.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
And the greatest part is Ryan, he worked the three
to eleven shift.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Appreciate you, I know.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
And I would get off at ten and he would
get mad and be like, I can't believe they're gonna
make me stay out here by myself to eleven. So
he'd just go clock out at ten and leave. Every night.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
He never stayed till eleven. Well, I have my own
thing there with the radio.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Which I am like, well, then you're not getting paid.
You're hourly for an hour. You could just chill and
it doesn't matter because you don't even have to pick
up the carts at night.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
That's what's amazing.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
When you're at a twenty four hour Walmart, you don't
really have to pick up all the carts before you
leave at ten or eleven, because what happens is overnight,
as the more carts go out in the parking lot,
guess what. The stalkers, the guys that do the stocking
of the shelves, they have to go clear the parking
lot at like three am, So it doesn't matter how
many carts you get. Eventually they're going out there to

(05:30):
get all the carts.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
You know how I did my clocking out early with radio.
When I first started, I realized the Astros games we
would stream them down the line, so my job was
just to be at the board and do that for
people to listen locally. Yeah, they do like four different goodbyes.
The Astros announcer all right, that's your game, Astros four.
The Rockies too. There's one out, there's another out. And

(05:53):
that was great. It was a fun game. It's great
to be around. It's a great team. It really is.
Astros bull or Rockies too. They do that like four
times over the course of thirty minutes. So I realized,
what if I just cut off one of the outros,
like instead of standing till eleven, what if I just
dipped at ten fifty and his second to last outro
when he goes Astros four, Rockies two, boom fired the

(06:16):
that's your Astros baseball. We'll see you next time Astros
dot com. Nobody complained, so the next time, you know,
I got a chick text me, Hey, it's Friday night.
What are you doing, let's go. I'm like, well, what
if I do this before you're married? Yeah, before I
was married? And I thought, what if I did? So
there's four outros, four different times the announcer would say
the final score, and it sounded like everything was over

(06:37):
because the game would end. Then there's a post show,
then there's an interview, then there's another post show. They're
just filling space. So I said, so what after, what
about after two goodbyes? If he goes Astros four Rockies
two boom, that's your astros baseball astros dot com. So
then I was able to dip at ten forty. Then
I got really daring one time. I thought, what if

(06:59):
after the first little thing, I just made it seem
like he gave the final score. We're rushed, we got
to get to other programming. What if I just did
that and I did. Nobody complained. And what I realized
is people don't listen to the post show. Nobody cares,
and I did. I did that. It was a great
summer and uh yeah, nobody's sitting around. Oh let me

(07:23):
listen to the post show nobody and oh buddy.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
My favorite part of that was when you said you
left at ten fifty instead of eleven. I was like, really,
you were worried about cutting ten minutes off your workday, But.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Then I mean, that's like a fireable offense. Hold on.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
But then the story continued and you started to cut
more and more. I was like, dude, ten minutes, who
gives a crap? Like, just stay extra ten minutes, Like
that's not a big deal.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
But when you're getting into the ten, ten thirty to
eleven range, that's different. So that's thirty minutes asleep, that's
thirty minutes of showing at a bar.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
That's thirty minutes of the party starting. That started, that's all.
Everybody's already starting to go out, and you haven't him
been able to pre game for free at your house.
I understand.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
That's with your friends faking like you don't have a
job that you have to work at. Eleven's here. Hey man,
I'm just running to get an alcohol. What are you
bros up to? I'm actually working my job, all right,
I'm gonna dip out of here. Where have you been at? Oh,
the liquor store, man, the line was crazy long. That's weird.
They close it like nine. Oh.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
I meant the gas station man, the gas.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Mixed up all the time. Yeah, I wasn't working. Why
would I be working at night shifts?

Speaker 1 (08:22):
No, dude, Yeah, And so I got organized, man, and
I had this planner. It was a nice planner probably
you know, got it from UTSA and I wrote all
the dates in it had everything mapped out. It was beautiful.
It was in my car. I had that thing two
days and someone broke in my car. They left a

(08:44):
few winning lottery tickets, they left my golf clubs. But
you know what, they took my planner.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah. It was a homeless person for firewood.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
So they knew exactly when I had to work. They
knew that I had to be at orientation on Monday
at seven, Wednesday at seven, Tuesday at four. I mean whatever,
they knew my whole schedule.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I'm getting followed right now. This guy's gonna drag Gilby.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
It wasn't about me being followed. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I take off mirls.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
I'm not sure they meant to take the planner. They
just took the backpack, hoping there was something good in there,
maybe a computer.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
To somebody, just don't take my life.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
And they probably opened up the backpack of the night
really a planner, and they probably threw it in the trash.
I get it, I understand, but you'd worked all that time.
I had worked all that time on it, and I
took that you're gonna laugh and this is gonna sound stupid.
I took that as a sign from God that I'm
not supposed to be organized.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
I'm not even kidding. I was about to say, my
reason I don't have a schedule a planner is a
come to Jesus moment. Yeah. And I had it in
high school and I used to keep the same thing
as you, a planner. It was a daily thing. One
of my friends, a loser people, had found it and
they go, oh my gosh, look what Ray keeps. And
I had Monday through Friday broken down all my classes homework.

(10:08):
I would cross out and they made fun of me.
So I was a little traumatizing, but they were kind
of my friends. But it got me to thinking, there's
no way this is what life's supposed to be. You
just make a list of twelve things every day cross
them out. I would go to bed and I'm be like,
did I cross everything out? Go look at it, make
sure I crossed it out, and I said to myself.
It was a come to Jesus and I go, there's

(10:28):
no way. This is how you're supposed to live life.
And from that day on I never kept a schedule ever.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Again, it's amazing to me. There's no way, and maybe
some people are, but you can't be so busy, so
incredibly busy, that you can't remember a few things on
your schedule.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
But my thing is with that is my point of contention.
If you forget something you're too busy.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
That's right, it wasn't. You weren't supposed to go to
that appointment. My wife's always like, but what if you
have an appointment. I'm like, I put it in my
dome and I remember, Hey, in two weeks, I have
to go see the foot you know, therapist so I
can do physical therapy. Oh, I got to go to
the back doctor on Wednesday, you know, October fifteenth.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I just remember it.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
But how I said, Well, once they tell you the date,
you think, okay, I got to be there, and you
remember in your head. It's not that hard.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
And here it worked. They give us a they pump
it into our gmails, They give us that calendar. I'm
not keeping a work calendar of my own personal calendar.
Then my whole life's just a calendar. Bro I'm moving
to Costa Rica. I ain't doing the calendar things. So
Steve Senzos, I couldn't tell you somebody will come in,
but oh, Bailey's everyone, what's up? Man? No idea he's
coming in?

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, I get that all the time. I get the
invite and it's like, oh, like three weeks in advance
of oh, you know, Garth Brooks is going to be
in studio, and I'm like, all right, great, and then
the night before he always sends an evite like, hey,
you know this, what's going on tomorrow Garth Brooks in
the studio. I'm like, oh, so that's when Garth Brooks
was coming in. It's tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Because I don't care the schedule. Also, the schedule didn't
isn't ever spot on, so why even go by it?

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Never it's like, hey, we're gonna do this, and we
got a meeting at eleven, we got this at twelve,
and then at like ten forty five they're like, all right,
we're done for the day. I'm wait, what, huh?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
How the schedule those says noon?

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, doesn't make sense. So why why keep a schedule
if the schedule is not going to be up to
date and so, and with kids, you got to be flexible.
You can say you have this, this and this on
a schedule, but when you have kids and you have
other things, the schedule doesn't always work out.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
See that's props to you on that though. With the
kid thing. Maybe when I have kids, I gotta start
having a schedule. But right now, at this point in
my life, I've still been able to get away with
not doing the schedule thing. Even when I went announced
and I worked at the gas station, I would still
memorize my schedule and not keep it because I refused
to keep a calendar. That was college after high school,
and I already told myself that's not how you're supposed

(12:57):
to live. And I never missed a PA appointment or
a gas station shift.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
I just had it in the dome like I used
to have remotes, and I mean I'd had to be there,
and I'd be like, all right, I got remote Saturday
at two o'clock and I would just remember my remotes.
After the remote at Cricket Wireless, then I'm going over
to the Golden Corral for a remote from four to six.
I'd remember it. And my problem was I would just
never leave on time I was. I was very I

(13:24):
would wait till the last minute and try to rush places.
I've gotten so much better about that now. I don't
really I don't do that anymore. It's not like I
would sit there and watch TV. If my remote was
at two o'clock at Cricket Wireless, I would wait until
it was one forty seven and it's eighteen minutes away.

(13:45):
Well why would you do that? So you're late no
matter what. But you're also the talent, but still it
looks bad. And then also Austin traffic. I mean, I
would be late every time. At Abbey would text me.
She'd be like, hey, where are you at? And I
would be like, I'm almost there, five minutes away, and
she'd be like, okay, that main Sure it's Slaughter and Manchack.

(14:08):
This Abby, No Abby uh Ferguson got it. And she
would always know, Okay, you're at Slaughter and Manchack. By
my response, she knew I just left my house.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
That start the show.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Oh yeah, we better start the show.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
All right, We're gonna do it live. We are the
one dude, dude, sore loser?

Speaker 1 (14:32):
What up, everybody? I am lunchbox. I know the most
about sports, so I'll give you the sports facts, my
sports opinions, because I'm pretty much a sports genius.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Y'all had sis in ray Mundo. I'm from the North.
I'm in Alpha Male. I live on the north side
of Nashville now with my wife Baser in the country
two point two acres, a bunch of corn and all that.
It's gonna be getting the shuck in time. And we
always say knee high by the fourth of July. I
think we made that deadline. Know what I'm saying. We
don't have corn. Maybe will as a fence someday. I
thought it's a good idea. But yeah, two kids, they're
at Vanderbilt. Their eggs actually justin checks on them in

(15:03):
the electrophysiology unit. Other than that, that's about it. If
you guys were curious about my commute, it wasn't twelve
months or twelve minutes. In Austin. I would have to
leave my apartment at four forty five PM when I
had a night shift that I would do, and it
would take me all the way until six fifteen. It
was an hour and a half commute to drive fifteen minutes.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
I don't understand people that live that way. I thought
about that, and I thought about if people work downtown
and their commute home was an hour and a half.
My literal thought, and this may be the dumbest thought ever,
because I said, I would just crawl under my desk
and take a nap. Why just get in your car
and sit in traffic, just crawling your under your desk,
take a nap, and still get home at the same time.

(15:44):
It seems like so logical. And that's where I realized
that's where a lot of drinking problems start, or a
lot of duys happen, is because people get off and
they're like, ah, set is traffic. I'll go down to
the bar right around the corner. I'll have two bruskis
turns into three. Then they get behind the wheel, then
they are behind the bars.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, you never want to go when it's traffic season.
So yes, I would always. I haven't actually go against that,
because yes, I did have that hour and a half commute,
But if it was my daily job, if I did
do that all the time, I would bring a pillow
and I'd sit in my car and sleep instead of
fighting traffic.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
I've done it, Like I've had remotes where it's like, Okay,
the traffic's going to be so bad, I could get
there early. I mean, there's a Walmart out on six
twenty right by Concordia University. I rolled up in the
back of the parking lot, rolled the windows down, and
I just slept in my car for an hour.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
At this one high school, this dude that I know,
what were you doing in high school? No, it was
he was a high schooler. But you could only park
a certain.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Amount where you're talking to high schoolers when I was.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
In high school, got it. You could only park certain
amount of cars at this school. So he would show
up at six am with a pillow sleep in his car,
and he'd always be guaranteed a parking spot.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Smart.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
I mean, why fight it every day? Oh I don't
have a parking spot. Mom, Dad, I'm in a park
in the street. Will you come get my car? Why
even do that? Why not just go two hours early?

Speaker 1 (17:08):
No, that's a loser. We'll take a break. I would
never get there two hours early to the parking spot.
That's that do need? Was that dude you? No?

Speaker 2 (17:16):
No, it was from a TV show, but I act
like it was my friend.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
We'll take a break. We're right back right. Sometimes you
learn things about your parents, like you learned that your
dad played baseball and got a hit against Eckersley Catfish
Hunter played with Hall of Famer Dave Parker right in
the A's organization back in the day. Well, I learned

(17:41):
something about my dad that I was just like, this
dude is the most savage human I've ever met in
my life.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Whoa dad? You were by?

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Well, No, that was not what I found out about
my dad. And if he is, that's great, but I
don't I don't think that's what's going on here. So
we were talking about my brother and his now wife.
When they were first dating, they worked together. That's how
they met.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
What if everybody that's a batter's box here.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
On the way to work Batter's Box stopped at a
taco truck and got his girlfriend a taco, drives it
to work one in a million, presents it to her
at her desk. She took one bite and said what
is this? And he said a breakfast taco? And she said, yeah,

(18:37):
it's cold. Why would you ever serve me something cold?
And when he told me that story back when they
were dating. So heartwarming.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Thank you for sharing that box.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
I said, He goes, how would you react it? I said,
I would have been peace out peace. That would have
been the red like I'm out of here. So then
I guess my mom had never heard this story. And
we're telling my mom the story and she goes what
She goes, I think I would have put the kebash
on that relationship. I think I ought to put the

(19:14):
kabash on that you never served me cold?

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (19:17):
How about why was nice of you to think of
me and get me a breakfast taco with the taco truck?
And she said, I was just, you know, setting the
standards early in our relationship that if you're going to
give me food, that it's not going to be cold,
because I wouldn't give.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
You cold food. So they're already dating.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
They were already dating, and my mom was just like, wow,
that's pretty that's pretty ridiculous. She goes, but I mean
that's to each their own. She goes like, I should
have left your father early on.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
That's pretty ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
And I said, what do you mean you should have
left our father early on? She goes, oh, she goes,
just think about this. We knew each other all through
high school and we didn't start dating until three months
left in high school. And she graduated high school at
seventeen because her birthday is July twenty eighth, and she goes,
so summer after we graduate, we're still dating. And it's
my birthday, my eighteenth birthday, and he says, hey, let

(20:09):
me take you out to dinner. So they go out
to dinner at a seafood restaurant.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Whoa they were dating before eighteen.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
My dad was eighteen, she was seventeen shoes and they
go out to a seafood restaurant and they have the
menus and my dad's like, oh, what are you thinking about.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Getting seafood and you eat it?

Speaker 1 (20:32):
And she said, oh, I'm thinking about and getting the lobster,
and my dad goes, oof, I can't really afford that.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
You gotta know that's coming at a seafood spot.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
And my mom's like, oh, okay, cool. So the waiter
comes up, oh you know you guys celebrating anything tonight
and my dad's like, yeah, it's her birthday, happy eighteenth birthday.
And he's like oh cool, Like do you know what
you want it to eat, And my mom's.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Like, oh, take a house salad.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
She goes, I'll take the red snapper, and she tells me,
I don't even She goes, I didn't even like red snapper,
but it was cheap enough because he couldn't afford the lobster.
And I was trying to be nice. We were new,
you know, only dating three months and we were only eighteens.
Totally understand him not being able to afford the lobster,

(21:23):
and okay, cool, what side did you want with that?
Rides down the sides? Oh, yes, buttermilk biscuit, and then
I don't know, red lobster was around back then. And
then go sir, what are you gonna have tonight? And
my dad said, I'll take the lobster.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Ah, and she said that she was.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
She was like, what the do you mean? You'll take
the lobster. And so she sat there and ate the
red snapper that she does not like, while he sat
there and chowed down on the lobster. And she said,
later I talked to him about it. I was like, hey, like,

(22:16):
at dinner, you said when I thought about getting the
lobster that you couldn't afford the lobster, and he said,
but what I meant is I couldn't afford two lobsters.
And she said, right then, I should have known. I
should have known that I should have left, that your

(22:39):
dad is the cheapest human being on this planet. But
I stayed. She goes and then smash cutting them. When
we have kids, and we'd go through the McDonald's drive
through and you kids would say, I want a cheeseburger,
and he'd tell you, no, you can have a hamburger
because it's ten cents cheaper. We can get the cheese

(22:59):
when we get home. He refused to let us get
cheeseburgers at McDonald's because we were getting it in the
drive through and we could get a craft single when
we got home and throw it on there and make
a cheeseburger ten cents safe.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
We're saying, bo. We never were allowed to order drinks.
We'd always just get waters at fast food because it
drinks or how my dad would say, the drinks are
how they get.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
You, that's how they make their money.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
No, no, so he wouldn't let us get drinks. And
then Baser when we started dating and got engaged and married,
Bazer would make a point she would get a milkshake
every time we'd go out and eat. Oh, and I'm
like that probably even though my dad's retired now and
we're working off the four oh one k, that probably
still hurts him to this day because he still just
orders water. He thinks that's how you out smart the restaurants. Oh,

(23:46):
the craft cheese is pretty good though, cause it's only
a cent. Yes.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, he was like, because it's you, your brother, and
your sister. You all wanted a cheeseburger. That's thirty cents.
We saved every time we went through the drive through.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
If you're with my dad, order a milkshake, and you
got to see the look thediot. He'll give anybody. That's
how they get.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
You, dude. The milkshakes the ice cream is such a
huge markup. That's why if you own a restaurant, you
gotta have milkshakes in your restaurant, because you make a
buttload of money on the markup. It's unbelievable. But yeah,
I learned that about my dad and I was like, damn,
that is so hilarious.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
But his was funnier though. The box one wasn't funny.
It's the baby box batter's box.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Oh no, the batter's box one wasn't funny.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
A old taco and sorry, have a good day at work.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, but she was setting the standard. And I mean
obviously my batter's Box was okay with it because here
they are married with a kid. I mean they are
you talk so glowingly? No, I mean I would not
have been there. I would have been out. But after that,
congratulations dad on fifty, here's a marriage. We'll take a break.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Ray hit me with the crime pod.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Oh, we've got a crime.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
No, I just thought. Trying to keep ratings up, they
say that's still the number one genre of podcasts crime.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I haven't really listened to a crime pond in a while. Man.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
The one time I did was COVID baser red COVID
driving from Detroit because the Southwest had some I don't know,
pilot strike. So we had to drive from Detroit instead
of fly to Nashville eight longways. What it's not that bad,
huh eight hours, eight hours, but we plan on flying.
That's an hour flight, and so we had to rent
a car. We had to drive to Detroit then rent

(25:30):
a car. She had COVID the whole time I rocked
a crime pod. Oh it flew by? Was it good?
What even was it? Was it the Murdoch. It was Murdoch,
that dude that killed his wife, his son.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
What about the kid that the survivor is only one
surviving son, one surviving buster and he got married right, Yeah,
and they live in some quiet town.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
He's probably if he has a job, it's a quiet job.
He probably had a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
I just I wonder about him, like, just how do
you recover after that? Because you lose your dad, your mom, brother,
and your brother.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
So do you does.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
He have a relationship with his dad or did he
testify against his dad? I don't know anything about the.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Murdoch didn't testify against him. They did remain in communication
through the jail calls. But I heard I saw an
article recently where they said they haven't talked to maybe
a year. So there now they're starting to distance away.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Man, I just god, it's just so crazy, Like what
makes you get to that point?

Speaker 2 (26:32):
I mean it was the financial It was the son
got in a boat crash, killed a girl, right, so
the son's going to go to jail. Well, because of discovery,
you have to show your finances. So the Murdoch guy
had been he was a lawyer, and he'd been doing
the shady stuff. Well, the people would getting accidents and
you get him a settlement. Well, he was keeping all
their settlements. And so once the discovery happened, all of

(26:54):
his financial crimes were about to be outed. And so
then it was all coming to a head because they go, hey,
we need to see your finances because you have to
with discovery, you have to show all the money you have.
And they would have saw all this stuff that didn't
make any sense, and he would have then gone to jail.
And it was coming up. It was coming up. He
was delaying stuff. He kept pushing it off until the
very day that he had to deliver this check and

(27:16):
he just didn't have the money because he also had
a pill addiction. But that money really ain't gonna go
away that fast. But he was just he was supposed
to give these people three million dollars and he would
keep the whole thing. So if they were about to
see these accounts, he was gonna have millions and millions
of money he wasn't supposed to have. That he couldn't explain.
And so then with the killing of his son. It
pushed all that off. So why did he kill his wife?

(27:41):
The wife was also, she was there and so maybe
he didn't.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Plan for her to be so he he killed the
son and the wife at the same time.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yes, so maybe it won two separate times. No, maybe
it was maybe the wife was never part of the plan.
But I know killing the son. The son was gonna
go to jail, but the son, oh, my son was
gonna go to jail for killing a girl in a boat.
So he was killing the son.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
So they didn't investigate him, so they wouldn't see his finances,
so the trial would.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Just be over. It would be just to delay stuff.
But eventually they're going to investigate him because he was
gonna make mistakes, and he did make mistakes and that's
how they found him out. And so with cell phone,
there was a couple of mistakes he made. He threw
a cell phone. They found that he didn't know the
cell phone was going to ping, and showed that he
went to his mom and dad's house two seconds after
the murders with clothes and hit him and stuff. And

(28:28):
because he said, oh, I was at the house whole time, well,
then it showed that he was at the house and
the timing screwed him up, so he did it made
a couple of mistakes, so he could have maybe got
away with it. But the killing of the sun kept
his son from going to jail, and the killing of
the son kept them from investigating his finances. But then
they still investigated his finances because they tracked the murder
back to his trial, and then the trial it also

(28:50):
was a financial crime trial, and then it was also
the murder the wife though that didn't make a lot
of sense. Maybe he just thought she was going to
rat him out, or their marriage was kind of on
the rocks, a little shaky, but maybe she was just
accessory of the crime. Damn as a facet dude, they've
made like five movies off of it. But that was
the pot I listened to for eight hours.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, I'm wondering if the older son, though, the one
that's still there, does he make any money off of
this stuff.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Or is he just broke Well, here's the thing, because
he owed so much money. I mean, he owed five
million dollars to the different people.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
This dude just may not have anything.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
He may not He's still the family was so rich.
The family is just known in that part of South Carolina.
I mean, the father was like one of the top lawyers.
I mean, they just had so much money. And then
you know, the people that he screwed over, they probably
get percentages of what he's.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Right they get, they don't get anywhere near what they
were supposed to.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
And the son's probably been provided for. But all his
properties got sold and the son just lives in a
quiet town now, the one that he didn't kill.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
But the and in the sun. Does he go to
therapy every day or twice a day? I mean, because
there is no way you can have a normal life.
There is no way you can have a normal relationship.
I can't even imagine. And then to him being married
to a chick, she has to deal with all that back.
I don't know how people would deal with that.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
And I mean then they were doing even crazier stuff
that they started to dig into the housekeeper fell and
cracked her head open, and they said, just how it
all went down. There was a huge settlement, and he
immediately said, hey, to her family, I'll get you guys paid.
Even though you're fighting me, I'm gonna help you fight me.
And got this huge payday and he kept the whole
thing and kept telling the kids and family, you guys,

(30:30):
the money's coming, and give them like five thousand dollars.
They're supposed to like five million. But because she fell
down the stairs and then people were saying maybe they
pushed her or it was just an accident and she died,
and then he'll took the money from his insurance and
that could have been the one that showed him that
he could take money from these people because you're supposed
to hold it. I don't know if you're necessarily holding

(30:51):
it in uh escrow or something, but you just hold
it in accounts, and so they then he realized, oh,
you can just hold it and just never give these
people the money. That's a weird thing with the lawyer
system because the lawyers actually get the money from a
major accident and then it's just your responsibility to give
it to the victims.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
That's like the DWI dude in Austin. This is alleged
I am doing music.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
This is this is the biggest thing right now. I'm
going from my memory allegedly everything everything I said.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, we're allegedly going to take a break and allegedly
come right back and I'm gonna tell you what I
remember from that. I believe it was the DWI dude.
He used to be a cop and then he became
a dui lawyer. How to get out of a dui?

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Like what to do?

Speaker 1 (31:39):
He had all these videos, became very popular. He was
making money. He was huge, and now he's in like
federal prison because he was like extorting his clients, like
he was getting like people from foreign countries and like,
pay me this money, pay me this money. I'll get
you a better deal. I'll get you a better deal.
If you give me five thousand dollars, if you give
me ten thousand dollars, I'll get you a better deal.

(32:00):
And these people are paying it. And so now he's
in prison for like ten years. So he went from
cop to d WI dude to like extortionist. But unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Was he getting him a better deal? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Or he was like hey send me or he was
hitting their families and the other whatever and say hey,
give me money and I'll get him out of jail.
And then never. I don't remember exactly, but I remember
this and I was like, damn, this dude was everywhere.
He was the most popular dude in Austin for a while.
DWI dude Call seven seven seven seven seven seven seven
call seven seven seven seven seven seven seven Dwi dude,

(32:39):
Jamie Beluga.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
But the murder, I gouty A. He's in jail forever
because of the crime, because he killed people. Yes, whereas
before they were just going to find out his finances
and he probably get fired from his job and it
was a huge family gig, so he was embarrassed by that.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Oh and so he would have gone to jail for
a couple of years now.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
I don't even know if it would have been a
criminal thing. Oh though financial so he'd got fired from
his company, but maybe he'd have went for ten years.
But now he's for life because he killed people. Yeah,
you're right though. The wife things kind of making me
think why did he kill her? I think it was
just because she was right there. Actually I don't know
the reason he killed her, but the text the whole

(33:18):
day he said, Hey, come out here. We're gonna go
check stuff out on the property. Need you to be here,
That's what it was. The whole reason he got found
out is he didn't know his son was on a
snapchat recording and so they had his voice in the background,
or he could have gotten away with it because like,
who would kill their own family. So they had that,
they were able to ping his cell phone. And then

(33:38):
he had closed that the housekeeper saw him throw away.
So there were three things. Otherwise he would have been
off scott free, and they probably would have never discovered
all of his financial crimes. And there was one.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
So there's no such thing as a perfect crime.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I mean he came close. He made like three mistakes.
And the other one is at his law office. This
is interesting, right, Yeah, at his law off. As he
got away with this for years, scamming these people that say, hey,
the family's asking where's the check. He'd be like, I
placed it. He would just tell him, Oh, I sent
it to him. They haven't got it yet. Huh. Oh,
I just went to their business. I'll run it there.
And they said he would always run run places. If

(34:15):
you needed him to take a check, like as a courier,
no problem, he would because he was not doing it.
He'd be like, I'll take it there. If it was
an hour drive, I'll take it, and they'd be like.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
He was so nice.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
He'd always tell people he'd drive him the check and
the like secretaries loved him. They go, you needed to
take some always driving taking stuff there, Well, they said.
One time, the lady goes to move a pile of
his papers and just floating in the air was the
check that he had been promised for the last four
months that they couldn't find. And he goes, I don't
want to write him another check. It could overdraft, it
could be a double check that he lied about and said,

(34:48):
I gave it to him. It's on them. They the mail,
let's check the mail. The check came floating down from
the papers onto the floor and she's like, this is
the check for the last six months we've been looking for.
And that's then how she started investing. Wow, So he
was like four mistakes, check floating in the air. He
didn't know his son was on Snapchat and it recorded
his voice being at the scene of the crime. He

(35:08):
didn't know his cell phone was going to pick up
where he exactly he threw it. And then also the
on star in his vehicle recorded how fast he was going,
him going ninety miles an hour to his parents' house.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
My so then that all happens right, and he thinks okay.
But now that he's sitting in prison, is he sitting
there going the hell was I doing?

Speaker 2 (35:31):
I just why did I do that? He he was
gonna lose three things. He was gonna lose the family company.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Because all right, no, I understand that.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
But he was gonna lose millions of dollars. Okay, fine,
And then he was his son, was gonna go to
jail for the Dui boat craw right.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
But now he's lost his son, his wife, he's in
prison forever, he's he he killed people. Does he sit
in prison like, is there a moment in prison where
he's just like, man, I think I overreacted or does
he still sit there and go, I didn't do it.
Has he convinced himself he really didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
No, yes, he's convinced himself he didn't do it, because
he's still trying to do appeals. You know, you see
U stuff in daily mail to be like Murdoch, this
Murdoch that the one of the jurors, the lady like
you know, they're trying to get one. I believe the
lady that transcribes it all. She was talking and they go, oh,
she wasn't supposed to talk. So they're trying to do it.
Throw this out, throw that out. He's still going after

(36:23):
it because he's a lawyer. He knows there's all these
different angles, you know. But we watched the case. It
was in twenty twenty three read as we were looking
for land. We watched it all on c SPAN. And
then since then they've come out with a lifetime movie
maybe in Netflix, all of them, they all and then
they did one that was real time. They did they

(36:45):
interviewed the girl, the girl that was on the boat
of the crash, and the survivors and what they thought
of it, and what the people were like and how
their lives have changed and their parents. Their parents are like, yeah,
they were always scummy people when we tried to talk money,
you know, they're you know there. And then so they
interviewed the people around him. That was fascinating. It's one

(37:05):
of the most fascinating cases. That's how I was able
to get to from Detroit to Nashville with Baser having COVID.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
I wonder if anybody like listens to this on road trips.
It's like, oh my god, I almost fell asleep. Probably not,
because this is the best damn pot out there. So yeah,
speaking of I'm gonna go run this check over there,
so I will be right back.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
You have a great day.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
I'm gonna go run this check real quick. Okay.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
He was always super nice when people needed a check.
Hit drive it an hour doing.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Hey, I'm about to head out to Murphy's Borough. I
got to deliver this check.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
So that's fuddy, that's fuddy.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yeah, many did.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
You get that check me and Beazer sent you.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
I know, man, I haven't got it. I'll run it
over all right, Hey, maybe got lost in the mail.
Hey man, you know, hey, you know that that check
from Miguel like where he was gonna pay. Yeah, I
still haven't got it yet. Man, that's weird landing locer,
you know what I mean. Like I mean, he was
supposed to give me a check three years ago. I
haven't seen him since. Man, it's weird tall guy at

(38:05):
his check that bounce for sure.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
People that wanted refunds that checks in the mail, I'll say,
I'll drive it to them. Oh yeah, you're not enjoying
the podcast.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, I will bring it. I will deliver it to
your door. Just email us. We are the Sore Losers
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