I feel like I need more focus in my life (7 June 2024)

Marcus talks diet fads and then gets into stories of finding biological relatives through DNA websites.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Knights podcast from News
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
I will keep you in touch with the Rugby fourth
versus fifth I think although it seems to be one
way traffic, thirty one a conversion successful for the Red
so thirty one seven there at the stage, so I'll
keep you updated on that. My name is Marcus hittletof
I think the second half has just begun there, but

(00:32):
I think probably the reads to be doing well to
win that one. So yeah, here we are. I just
actually during that news bulletin, I've kind of been moreb
I shouldn't say more by fascinated because this is this
guy Moslep mostly this doctor who's famous for intermittent fasting.
He's quite a big deal and seems to be quite
a credible guy in the UK. Is into all sorts

(00:55):
of Not only is he a medical doctor, he's also
quite a good science communicator about diet and fasting and
stuff like that. Every well known guy in the UK
and what I can see from reading papers, but this
is the guy that's gone missing on the island of
Siamey and the Mediterranean. Fascinating. They'll be looking at it
Google maps the islands. Just work out the layer of

(01:17):
the land where they're talking about. It looks beautiful, What
an extraordinary looking island. A couple of things spring out
straight away. How incredibly baren it is. How much water
on those Greek islands are there? Simon, you might have
been there to be curious to know interesting facts about
the island where this sky went missing. Exports main industry

(01:38):
fishing and sponges. I guess they harvest sponges from the seafloor.
Maybe they farm them. Don't even know. If you come
across a natural spongery off in these days casual you'd
seen them at the chemist. Wouldn't see them myself anyway,
ym I and I came for the life. We work

(01:58):
out where that guy would have gone. Clearly hasn't been.
Something's happened to he's fought on the tire. But you
might have been to Simi. One of the occupied obviously
by the Nazis during World War Two. I don't know
if Kiwis were there in combat. I'm pretty fascinated by that.
So it's amazing too that you can actually where we
are with the news. You can read a news story

(02:19):
that you can actually look at where the search parties
are looking. Not in real time, but yeah, I'm just
checking that out there. Maybe someone's being to SIMI can
tell me about it. I think I'm pronounce it right.
It's why am I as a situation anyway, As I say,
here until midnights, non curated talk to a fear bit
happening with sport. I'll keep you updated with another news too.
You would heard during the news about that situation where

(02:40):
that crash in Canterbury. Hopefully there's nothing else like that
to report throughout the course of the night, but if
there is anything that happens, I'll report it. If I said,
if you see something that's news where they let me
know whether that be normal drill quake, tsunami's strandings, Wallabies
airline turbulence. I did fly up from in the cargo

(03:00):
to Auckland. Yes, I did notice when the pilots say
fasten your seat belt, people are a lot quicker at
doing it. Now now that people can realize the real
danger of turbulence, it's like, wow, we're not missing around.
I was built up the whole way. I'm not going
to mess with that now. Goodness funny our trip because
the quiz was quite hard. Now I change the person's

(03:22):
doing the using and quiz. Normally I can go for
quite a strong kind of a tear, but I was
struggling to get one right for a while there. Anyway,
enough about me, So if you want to talk eight
hundred and eighty Tay nine, two ninety six, This day,
seventy sixty, Zealand's first McDonald's. I feel we talked about
this last year? Did we dan on the one year

(03:44):
on the on the day that it opened? But anyway,
you might want to mention something about this because probably
about forty years time will be talked. Well I won't
be here, but we're talking about New zand the opening
of New Zealand's first Popeye takeaway or something like that.
But anyway, it was this day in nineteen seventy six,
So we're coming up for fifty years of McDonald's. Doesn't

(04:05):
seem you anymore, does it. They often said that no
McDonald's and using it ever closed, But we now know
that's not true because I know two McDonald's that closed,
one in the Chase Plaza in Auckland and one in
Brown's Bay that was famous because it was the Jinx
McDonald's don't quite know what wrong with it. Maybe it

(04:27):
was a wrong site on a corner. Anyway, you got
something to mention about that as well. Be good to
hear from you. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and
nine to nine to Detect, nineteen seventy six. First one
for Toorney. I don't know where the next one was.
I'm thinking probably Green Lane Auckland might be wrong. Memory

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is not very good these days, well fifty years ago.
It's hard to remember, isn't it. Of course the troubles
you go and google it back, and googling it back
stops about nineteen ninety nine, so that's hard as well. Anyway,
if you are out and about doing something interestingn't always
nice to talk, get in touch, get at it. Eight
hundred eighty thirty and nine two nine two diicts. I
look forward to your texts as well. Tonight getting touched

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by the way, whether he's sport and things that will
happen tonight will be keep you. I think there's a
bit of rugby league later on tonight, also as they
try and concentrate on the round robin rather than making
maca after the state of origin. But the dragons versus
Tigers that'll be at nine to fifteen. There's Seals NBL
two Giants versus Five that's on tonight two seven thirty.

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Will keep you up there with that. So there we go,
oh eight hundred eighty thirty nine two nine two to text,
get in touch anything you want to talk about. Thirteen
past eight o'clock, so I feel free to get in
touched hit on midnight Jim Stead and from twelve I
will keep you updated. And certainly if you've been interest
about what happened that guy that real who done it
with that guy that just disappeared on the island of
simm Or Sime in the Greek Isles, I would imagine

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it won't be too long before they have some sort
of resolution to that. I will keep you updated on that.
I think the whole thing about that intimittent fast thing,
you just lost weight because you didn't eat as much.
I feel like that with all the diets, because the
brand new diet that's taken off on TikTok and that's

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called the thirty thirty to thirty diet, and I'm the
one that's ever talked about diets on the show, I
think inherently they are bad. But I'm always these days
a sucker for hearing a new one, because when I
grew up, there were two diets that people were into,
because people used to talk about diets in those days.
This is before social media was wooded of the mouth.
The diets that people were nuts for was the Israeli

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Army diet. Well, that doesn't have the same kind of
ring to it these days, does it with So yeah,
that's probably not quite what it once was. And the
grapefruit diet. I don't know how I think of the
Israeli Commander's diet or something like that. But the new
art that's taken over the inseet, it's called the thirty
thirty thirty diet. It's taken over TikTok. And I think

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you have thirty grams of protein thirty minutes before you
work for thirty miles. That sounds right wrong, doesn't it?
Thirty grams of pro? Oh, here we go. So I
feel terrible. I feel like Oprah. I feel terrible even
talking about diets because there's no such thing as diets.
But I know that people on the show like to
be across a fad and something that is kind of

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viral and something that everyone's talking about. So the thirty
thirty thirty method, it's all the talk of TikTok. They say,
this one's actually rooted in science. The thirty thirty thirty
method involves eating thirty grams of protein within the first
thirty minutes of waking up and following up with thirty

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minutes of exercise. Brilliant. The method was first proposed by
tmthy Ferrist in this book The Four Hour Body, but
was made popular biologist Gary Brecker on TikTok Breca claimate
can help you lose weight and get control of your
blood sugar and inchulin levels. Oh ge, I'm all in

(08:20):
now anyway, enough about that. So yeah, thirty thirty thirty.
I'll give that a go. I feel like I need
more focus in my life. For me, when I wake up,
it's a long time before I because I got a
long day before I start work. Like I'm up at
nine and at work at eight it's eleven hours. J

(08:41):
How haunting that can be? Those eleven hours cheap? Dan's nodding, Chris,
it's Marcus, welcome, good evening.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Well, congratulations, even those you're presented said not to say,
but anyone's congratulations. I thought it'd be and just slip
it in. You've done well, my friends. It's better than
being in the council and in the cardal, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Maybe?

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (09:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (09:15):
I mean anyway, but America versus Pakistan? Did you say
it was a team with a top Pakistani team?

Speaker 2 (09:25):
A couple of questions, Chris, can we watch that in
New Zealand even like the minor league?

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Well, well, evidently we were supposed to be able to
watch it on sky Open.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Okay, but you can.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
You've got to sign into some sort of thing and
put your credit card details over and.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
I won't put my credit card details. Who's listening?

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Sorry, Marcus, I spoke of the top you, but I
don't do the one dollar credit card detail thing.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
No, I'm not going to do that.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
We don't team. We don't do that a team.

Speaker 7 (10:05):
No.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
I presume that. I presume the American United States team
would be people with dual citizenship that couldn't get in
the Pakistan team or any other in any other cricket team.
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (10:21):
There's a couple of hairsbands, but mind you, one of
them as a Kiwi Cory Cory Anderson.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Remember hearing about that.

Speaker 8 (10:30):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, and remember he hit that down in your part
of the world. He had one hundred and thirty in
the game at at Queenstown.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, nice pitch. The looks good on the TV, doesn't it,
That one there with the remarkable to the ground at
the lighted up like a Christmas tree? That one. You
think more New Zealanders would have married Americans and joined
up for that team.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Well do New Zealand as marry American?

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Look, obviously I.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Was going to say Rachel Hunter, but I guess he's
more Scottish.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
I know he's Scottish. She's Scottish Rod but her children
were born there, you know, Rene and limb.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
At uh TAKEAWAITI.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Well what he's got was but but she's not from
America originally. Aura. You're talking about Aura?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Oh she's British.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, But but she did
have a house and a beautiful house.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
You watch Have you watched Selling Sunset? I think you'd
enjoy it? Which one Selling Sunset?

Speaker 3 (11:40):
I've seen it? Yeah, I've seen it.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
But you got Netflix.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
I've got everything made. I mean, I've got the whole
bloody package. Don't you worry? About that. I flicked around
and you know if there's a show about you know,
like that beautiful American lady that does that flea market
flip that she gets the mountainto flea markets and then
brings them back to where is it?

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I haven't seen that. Where's that?

Speaker 3 (12:10):
What's that called flea market flip?

Speaker 2 (12:14):
What what format? We will find it?

Speaker 3 (12:20):
I think you'd find it on Rush or one of
those ones.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
It sounds like a right.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
She's one of the most beautiful women you see, and
she just wear just conservative clothes, but in the sexy
way when she has all these.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
People and what's her name? Free market flip?

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, I think that's what it's called. Flea market flip and.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Consumer clothes a sixy way did you say?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Oh, like old jeans and like tucked and blouses and stuff.
I looking at the image.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, and just just a bit of a low line
on the top.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Well, that's.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
A beautiful woman.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
But I love her Beck story. What's her Beck story?

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Her backstory is she she actually got into media and
she was on one of those morning shows, NBC Morning shows.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
What talking about the stuff talking about up up cycling stuff.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
No, no, no, no, no, she was just a general
general person on the couch of one of those shows.
But but she did this show and it's been going
for nine or ten seasons.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Oh, Jeapers, there's a big discoveries does she make? Does
she's fine, like sort of sunken treasure and stuff?

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Oh no, no, no, there's no sunken treasure. What they
do is they get old ship and they turn it
and do dodge old chest.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
She's painted up and distressed them or something like that.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, but she has two teams, so two people whether
it be a mother and wife or a mother and
husband or world anyway, so two mobs of them. They
give them five hundred bucks and they go and ramish
around these bloody these huge bloody m what they call

(14:20):
jump yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah. And then they
grab all the stuff and they take it back and
then you see them turning it into what they're turning
it into, and it's all very low key. And then
they take it to the New Jersey flea market and
they sell it and the team that wins the most

(14:41):
do you know, they get five thousand US dollars.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Well believe with there, Chris. But that's that's an interesting one.
Onto your world, and what's your name? What's your front name?
What's free market Flip's name?

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Lara Spencer.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Wow, appreciate that, Chris, thank you.

Speaker 9 (15:00):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
No talk of diets, but you're on to a free
market of course, the freemark flip. Well, yes, of course
people might begin into their flea marketing tomorrow morning. Frame
of mind. I'm talking about the first McDonald's and also
the thirty thirty thirty diet. I'm all in on this.
So you wake up and the thirty grams of protein
before thirty minutes of exercise. It's scientific. Carbohydrates came include too.

(15:27):
Of the most important part is making sure your breakfast
has thirty grams of protein, and that's sort of get
your heart rate up a little so six. I said,
they're on the bread diet, and I've got to say
that we've all tried that way. It's never good, especially
over that COVID. Everyone got the soured Oh bug is
that right? So delicious? Oh it's a bit more bread.

(15:49):
Not about three months about eating more breath. Think, well,
actually that's probably a better it, but not, but much
of the bread die. I think I'll try something else.
Mission Bay McDonald's closed down of course it did. Mission
Bay McDonalds was one of the greats. Bay McDonalds was
one of the most I mean that was white like
top five, top five starting. Wow, I guess that's Mission

(16:10):
Bay for you. Always things opening and closing up in
Mission Bay kind of feels Mission Bay feels very prone
to the vagaries of food fashion. If it's not yoga
and sprinkles, it's yeah, but of everything anyway. But good text.
Thank you, Marcus, you can take it from me. My

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wife was a big girl, says charming text. She went
on a keito diet. What an amazing transformation. She's cooking
and eating of food. She's found a new boost in life.
I've tasted her tucker not bad at all. Dropped from
one twenty two to under eighty five. Very happy. So

(16:54):
am I no going not It's a good text and
sums all up. Marcus McDonald's have built a brand new restaurant,
pook A car He just like wool With did nowadays
is the old Poky in the new Pooky. That how
fast it's growing amidst the urban spread. But pook A
Coy still has the most charity shops, a very good library,

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and a very good tree. What's that tree? It's because
it got a Judas tree that some guy brought back
from more. If you, if you find yourself and pook a,
spend some time under that tree. It's one of the
great trees anyway. Just Rugby score thirty eight fourteen red
on the comeback. But looks like the Chiefs have just scored.

(17:35):
I'm seeing a guy that looks familiar. It might be
old Cano, is it. I don't know. I know it's
someone else anyway, like a Doppelgangle anyway, So they'll be
kicked to come so forty three fourteen one way traffic again.
Marcus Michael Molesley probably died of starvation, loll But seriously,
he may have fallen to the sea for one of

(17:56):
the coastal cliff walks. The island is only six thousand hectors.
It seemed to be about it seems it's an extraordinary
looking island. Directly, he might have got stung by a
snow and fall into the sea. But you think with
the clear water in the Mediterranean, the body would be seen,
wouldn't you. Well, I hate to say it, but I'm

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reading all the news stories and watching and looking at
the maps I just want to go there asap, not
to go walk and get stung by a snake. Obviously
didn't know there was snakes in the Mediterranean, had no
idea about that at all. And after work, I'll be
researching how to farm sponges. That's it's great industry. They
fart with the sponges, whether they anyway, I'm not saying,

(18:42):
of course the diets are a good thing, because diets
lead to reckless behavior and false hope and Joe Yo dieting.
They never really work. But I think, like all of us,
we're curious that this might be the magic one, the
thirty thirty thirty. I just like the way it's called
the thirty thirty thirty. And you might remember the grapefruit

(19:04):
diet from the eighties, and what was that diet, The
Israeli Army diet. You want to remember that. But my
theory with diets is that anything that restricts what you're
gonna eat is gonna work. Yeah, the Israeli Army diet
was a popular crash diet in the seventies. Low calories,

(19:30):
poor nutrition, and subsequent weight gain. That's a crash diet
for you. Day one, apples, day two apples Day three,
Cheese Day four, Cheese Day five, Chicken Day six, Chicken

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Day seven, Salad Day eight, salad You remember it well,
but now I guess everyone's on ozm pic anyway, touched
twenty five away from nine. There's something I want to
mention Marcus till twelve, eight hundred and eighty eight and
nine to nine two to text. Interesting story about the

(20:15):
Tuatara that in Vicago. Of course, the whole thing went
to Atara. None of them were supposed to hatch because
the gene sauce was compromised. They were too inbred. That's
the story. They don't tell you. So all that happened
because the eggs were supposed to be buried so they
wouldn't hatch, but because the roof leaked, some became viable.

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I remember once when TV was in its golden age
where it was just beginning to go down the tube
and they would show anything on TV, and this was
probably about ten years ago, and there was a show
called Extream Hollywood Diets, and I believe one of the

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women was eating cotton wool dipped in our introduced and frozen.
Yeah that's TV. And at swan song, are you wonder
why that's you wonder why that went down the tube,
don't you? And then we've got Gail from Coronation Street.
She's pecked it in goodness, I mean when she's still young, Gail.
It's been there fifty years. Evening, Mike, it's Marcus good evening.

Speaker 10 (21:27):
Oh hi Marcus. How are things You're good?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Good? Yeah?

Speaker 11 (21:33):
Oh good? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Likewise good.

Speaker 10 (21:36):
Years ago, fifteen twenty years ago, my dad went crazy
over the Yekins diet and it was a big fads
as friends who all involved with and the other name
for it, some people call it the fat diet because
the theory is that you can eat as much meat, fatty,
oily greasy meat cooked and fat and things, and the

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fat doesn't get stored, it just goes straight through you.
And you need the meat for protein.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (22:03):
And then there lots and lots of vegetables because need vitamins,
but you stay off the carbs the rice, bread, potato
and pasta and things, and because they're the ones.

Speaker 10 (22:14):
That your body stores as fat. Yes, the carbohydrates and
no sugar.

Speaker 11 (22:19):
No sugar.

Speaker 10 (22:21):
So yeah, I think he lost a bit of weight,
But yeah, I think it's also no I think that
the keto diet is very similar to that.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
It all sounds like, it all sounds like you wouldn't
feel that healthy eating crazy amounts of protein. I always
feel always sounds a bit like full on for the
body to digest.

Speaker 11 (22:41):
Yeah, no, that's right.

Speaker 10 (22:42):
And after you mentioned the thirty thirty thirty died, I
looked it up, and I think the theory behind it
what the computer said is that your body by eating that. Man,
it's like five eggs thirty grams of protein. Five eggs
or a cup of yogurt or a steak or something.
And apparently because it's slower to digest, it makes you

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feel fuller all day for longer, so then you can
and you feel less of a need to eat during
the day. So yeah, I don't know that's interesting though.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Well, it's catchy thirty thirty thirty because it means you
explained to something in about ten seconds. But eggs are
kind of I'm not quite sure where you are with
the eggs. Sometimes they're fine to in science people say
avoid them like the plague. So it always like every
five years, the whole view on eggs changes.

Speaker 11 (23:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (23:33):
I used to do a party trick where I'd eat.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
A rory, but I'd like to see that. Yeah, all right,
is that the whole trick? Well that's quite some party.
Now Mike's gonna eat a whole rower egg? What with
a shell?

Speaker 11 (23:49):
No?

Speaker 10 (23:49):
No, not with the shell. But yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Know, I know how freaked out you ever see a
show like an American Master's Hire for Anything with Gordon
Ramsay and then suddenly there's a roar rig They get
really freaked out because I think overseas like ror eggs
really can kill.

Speaker 10 (24:04):
You, you will. They definitely taste nice of cooked.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, I don't think.

Speaker 8 (24:11):
I think.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
And how's your how's your dad?

Speaker 11 (24:13):
Now?

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Fatal thin?

Speaker 10 (24:15):
Uh? Not on earth anymore? The Christ, that's all right.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's a bad question for me to ask. But did
the it can start work for him?

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (24:26):
He lost it, but yeah, and the main thing is
is it gave him in his later years. It gave
him positivity in the shout as though he was doing
something meaningful.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
So he lost as Waite stayed off.

Speaker 10 (24:40):
Yeah, yeah, he lost it, but yeah, that's right, he did.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Nice Mike, thank you for that. Ricketts Marcus welcome, nice
to hear from you. Rick, good evening, good day, Rick,
good every time. Some are every time someone calls me
the name, I know that that Rick's not your Niel name.
Rick's not your real name.

Speaker 13 (25:01):
It does come back to me. Yes, yeah, years ago
I brought to myself when I was a young man,
I really want to do something with myself. I came
from a good family and I played golf. What I
played golf really young as a young boy. And we

(25:24):
had to go from school to the golf club with
our golf clubs on. We strapped them on the back
of our bikes.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
You're like on a carrier or on the top of my.

Speaker 13 (25:34):
Just just on on the trolley, on the trolley and
we go to the golf club. Yeah, well your clubs
on the back of the trolley.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Oh you put the whole stretched.

Speaker 13 (25:45):
Them, stretched them on your bike, and then you went
out the golf club to play golf. I'm here, yep,
and and I said to my dad, who was a
member of the golf club, this is no good for
us boys. And there's an old shed out the back,
and I said, can we make that shed into something
that we can put our golf clubs in? And this said, well,

(26:07):
it's up to you boys. So we went out and
we went out and we fixed it up and we
had a sheep and then the courage said, yes, you
can put your clubs in there. So we went out
there every day and we play golf without having to
carry golf clubs. And I thought, this is a good thing.

(26:29):
We're onto something in here.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
And I've never once seen anyone on a bike either
torring a golf seat of golf clubs. Not once I
traveled the world, I've never once seen it.

Speaker 13 (26:41):
Our three layers around in the sixties and seventies, that
we had to do that because we never had days
that never had days that drop us off. No, no,
So there was the start of things and I thought, well,
here we go, and I said to the golf golf club,
now we're here, can you look after us. So we

(27:01):
had someone to give us some more coaching, and then
we got into it and then they said, okay, let's
complain more golf of the juniors. And we've got the
junior club going from the four of us with the one.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Year reinvested in the story, I feel I'm really invested
in the story. Is it going to be interesting and
have a conclusion.

Speaker 13 (27:24):
Yes, it is of an entrepreneur.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Wow, I've never met one of those.

Speaker 13 (27:29):
I'm in my seventies and there.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
And the golf Yeah, the golf club stored at the
golf at the golf course and the shed. Then what happened?

Speaker 13 (27:41):
No, we started things. I started things for the golf club,
for the juniors, we got coaches, we got this, and
then everything everything worked out into the fact that I
needed to deduce for people. So that's what I did.
I got into my twenties, I sort of working on things,
different things that needed to be done, and then now

(28:04):
I don't. I don't work needed to because a help
pickle put them, put them into perspect and to where
they needed to go.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Have you been listening to the show tonight? No, not
at all, You've just rung up. Have you not even
listened to the show?

Speaker 13 (28:21):
No, just just to be out a lot.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Hang on, hang on? Have you just rung up with
any without even context you're listening to the show?

Speaker 14 (28:30):
Yes?

Speaker 15 (28:30):
I have.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Well, how do you think that makes me feel?

Speaker 13 (28:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
What do you want me to tell you?

Speaker 9 (28:38):
Yes?

Speaker 15 (28:38):
Please?

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Hm hmm, good question. Funny should ask that? What what's
your radio? What's your non diploma? Are you going by?
Keevan or something?

Speaker 8 (28:46):
Is it? Rick?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Do you remember what your neighbors? How do you spell
that backwards?

Speaker 16 (28:55):
Ok?

Speaker 13 (28:57):
Okay?

Speaker 15 (28:58):
No e?

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, Well, because we're trying to I'm trying to build
up a sort of a thematic theme for the show.
It's only coming with a long winded story. What is
your What did you make your money in?

Speaker 13 (29:11):
Just investing in people? Tell on that you can do
something in life. You know, if there's something you want
to do, do it.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
You Sunday like, yeah, I do so? So who did
you invest in?

Speaker 13 (29:27):
I haven't invested in everything in life now.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Right, but tell me tell me one person you invested
that made your money? Tell me what happened myself? God,
you like a riddle. You're a riddler. So what did
you make your money? And you said you're entrepreneur? What
did you make your money in?

Speaker 9 (29:44):
Here?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Addressing finally really, Wow, where was your sell on?

Speaker 13 (29:51):
I started one sell on in the next third Wow?
And then then I went to Sydney and I worked
for a fashion quarterly magazine. Yeah yeah, and there wasn't
wasn't really for me? Then I will and moved into
hair product?

Speaker 15 (30:13):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (30:14):
What hair product?

Speaker 13 (30:16):
And Curtis is a New Zealand product.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
And then you're on the road selling, were you?

Speaker 17 (30:22):
He?

Speaker 13 (30:22):
I was on the road selling, and then they could
do other things. And I changed the right through. I
went back to the golf courses.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
I went into arbitrary what's your handicap?

Speaker 13 (30:34):
My handicap the moments put it back because I'm little
bit older, I'm eighteen.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Wow, And where did you wash up? What part of
the country are you in?

Speaker 13 (30:44):
Christ?

Speaker 2 (30:45):
And where were you when you're biking to the golf
course with your golf clubs behind the bike eshburd.

Speaker 13 (30:50):
And golf club.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Wow?

Speaker 13 (30:51):
From the Ashburton College right to the golf club was
the fifteen minutes drove with the golf well bike ride?

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, I still quite I can't understand we're on the bike.
You tie them to because the beck will get in
the way.

Speaker 13 (31:01):
Wouldn't they know you're here with a stretche.

Speaker 15 (31:05):
Really make sure you get a sweet right?

Speaker 11 (31:09):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Well that's very interesting Rick, Okay, well hang.

Speaker 15 (31:17):
On what.

Speaker 13 (31:18):
That's fine. I've got my golf clubs from working at
the supermarket. Put them on peace. The most rest of
the work do really well. But people people with money
have I realize you don't need the things that you
don't want if you had to go, if you're going
to go on to a big trip, you don't buy

(31:42):
a cap.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Even when's the book coming out, right. That's why I
think we're already interested in your self help guide. Cheepers, creepers.
It's hard work, thank you, good luck with all of that.
I invest in people. You're Roberts Marcus, Welcome and good evening.

Speaker 18 (31:59):
Hey, nice to talk to you, you too, Rob. I
just wanted to just put them mile two cents on
your fruit and yarn, mate. And I'm just trying the
best I can to level off off the grid and
off the off the land and and through fruit and bitchies.
And I think a lot of people have forgotten how
to how to look after themselves with what we have

(32:23):
on this earth.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Are you Are you preserving stuff for the winter, Robbie,
like bottling stuff and things?

Speaker 18 (32:29):
I was actually, yes, my ring, I've just actually just
got into there myself, just sterilizing all the jars.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
And with those seals on the top doing all of that.

Speaker 19 (32:40):
Wow.

Speaker 18 (32:41):
Yeah, yeah, not not too bad of a youn but yeah,
that was just my little two cents on. Did you
see he seemed a bit lonely on the radio there mate.
So I'm just a passenger in the car.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Just thought, where are you? Rob? We shirt we share mate?
How far?

Speaker 18 (32:58):
I'm in a place called Kicking, which is about an
hour south of them.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yep, handle that know that right? Nice to hear from you.
Go well mate, being Marcus.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Welcoming Marcus.

Speaker 15 (33:12):
Just a quick thing on the McDonald's so got I
worked there when I was a teenager back in the
day and and doing you know, they taught you some
good work, work, effort skills and stuff. But I got
a McDonald's every morning before work, and I get a coffee,
and I've got the app on my phone, the Mecca's app,

(33:34):
And if I buy sex coffee, I'll get enough points
to get my sitting coffee free.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Wow, that's great, I'll go broke. Sounds very generous.

Speaker 15 (33:44):
Well, it's about it's about twenty your coffee, so it's
actually cheaper than the gas station. And you get stations
about sex age or something. Yeah, and I think the
guest station you got to buy eight eight, nine three.
So you know this when you buy sex and you
see it free and on your free one, you can
choose a few on a large, regular or small so

(34:05):
it's great there, and yeah I don't I don't eat.
It's mainly just for coffee. But you take their wife
and the kids here on the weekend occasionally, and everything
we do, we just run through the app and you
build the points up and you get freebies.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
What's it like working there?

Speaker 9 (34:24):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Friend? That you're just building burgers? Are you?

Speaker 15 (34:27):
It's quite specialized eighteen years ago since the weeks.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Might have changed, will it?

Speaker 15 (34:34):
Well that in your head the warming trees, you just
you kept the bridges, you know, you keep the woman
trees topped up. Nowadays it's made the order kind of thing,
so you've got a difference. But the price is increased
like that then I think it's cheeseburg was a door
eighty now it's about four or five bucks, so you

(34:55):
know there's a massive increase in price.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, quite out of everything I eat there, I think
I think probably I like the simplicity of the cheeseburger.
They're kind of the one that talks to me that
in the f face. Don't like any of the others.
Now you put some.

Speaker 15 (35:11):
Had the big next source to the cheeseburger for about fifty.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, no, I don't like messing with. I just think
the menu was invented for a reason. It's too many variations,
and I don't like to hear people mixing with it.
To me, that's the beginning of the end. I'm not
happy mixing. Yep, don't want that. The only thing i'll
the only thing I'll ask for is I'll ask for
a file o fish. But I'll say I want it
made now, because they do sit around for a while
and then normally pretty respectful of that. And the old days,

(35:37):
i'd say without source, they'd have to make one specifically
they'd asked for. Oh, you got to be a source
at the end, so I knew it was freshly made.
But now I just say, hey, can you make it
straight away? Because when I go to McDonald's and invert
cargo after work, you know who's there prison guards because

(35:58):
across the road from the prison, so they're always off
the shift there. Oh there you go, Oh as we will,
good year. I talked to you, but you talked to
some interesting people. Oh you're not interesting. Road will do.
So it's always good prison chat works. They sit down
talk to the prison guards about life there. Ross Marcus welcome.

Speaker 20 (36:17):
Yeah, Marcus, I've got a query with TMU. Oh seriously,
they sell laptops, really, they do you and they're talking,
we're talking under two hundred bucks for some of them.

(36:38):
Love And my question is that some of them are
saying that they Android based. And I don't know if
I thought that was a telephone system. But I ended
up buying one from the warehouse the other day because
mine had clapped out after ten years.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Not not a bad lifespan for computer.

Speaker 20 (36:58):
Yeah, yeah, and that was about a six hundred dollars
one I bought today but well yesterday, and I'm throw
tibits with it. But I'm has to find the episode.
I've never had a bad sale, but they're like a
bad buy.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
From t so have you? But how come you went
to the warehouse? Did you resolve what was happening with
the TIMU one or you're just too freaked out?

Speaker 11 (37:22):
I didn't know.

Speaker 18 (37:23):
Whether, Yeah, freaked out.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
I don't know if I could trust him.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah, I don't know anything. So what operating system would
it be on if it was Android? Dan Dan to
go a bit of a propeller head, do you know,
think about it, dance shake it about what that would
be like? Don't come on what dances. It would have
been cloud based, like a chromebook. I don't know what
that is, but the kids have a Chromebook at school,
but I don't. I think it's like an iPad.

Speaker 20 (37:47):
Okay, you could have some of them that were like
an iPad, and some of them were like a laptop.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
So he could do anything he wanted. He could do
everything he wanted on it, Dan could he? What couldn't
he do? You can't a lot of things that require
a lot of software on device. I don't know what
he means by on device. What does that mean on device?
I'll be quite hard to install soft. We're onto it capefully.

(38:18):
I need it for the Internet and stuff, though, don't you.

Speaker 15 (38:21):
Know?

Speaker 20 (38:22):
Yeah? Well I just wanted to you did, right. Yeah,
I'm a peach, but I just want to be able
to go on t MO and well trade me is
just about out, isn't it. What, Well, you got to
pay for all your postage on trade me.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
I love, I'll get on my clothes on trade me.

Speaker 20 (38:39):
It's all free on TV. You don't pay any postage on.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
I've got very specific tastes good on No, hang on,
don't go yet, because I'm so I like the fact
you're peach. Do I want to turn it dollar? Well,
I mean that's the thing. If they're bringing who are
we to prevent people getting turned dollar computers? If they can?

Speaker 20 (38:59):
Oh, some of them are cheaper. I thought some of
beginnings on I thought I read that they were slow
and fifty bad. So I couldn't believe it. I don't
know if I'm reading the truth or not.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
I've got a guy that calls this show. He's a
bit of a timmy whisper. I'll see if he can
get onto the old laptop and say it be any
good for pinching. You just want to look at you
just want to get on trade ma, get on the internet,
watch a few videos that sort of stuff.

Speaker 20 (39:21):
A yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
You know, you know a launch of solar launch of
solar missionary thing.

Speaker 21 (39:28):
Do you.

Speaker 20 (39:29):
A few emails that.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
He paid six hundred DAN for the waehouse one.

Speaker 20 (39:34):
Yeah, that's right, that's not paid six hundred good service
at the warehouse.

Speaker 11 (39:40):
It was.

Speaker 20 (39:41):
I was impressed.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
There's something, isn't it, Because I mean, it's going to
be hard to tell you.

Speaker 20 (39:44):
There you go, and I'll tell you something else. I've
got this McAfee. It would have to be the top
so far worldwide andy virus. And they've removed all the
ads from YouTube, but not just YouTube. They're removed anything.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
No ads cheer I'll go bro.

Speaker 20 (40:06):
But no, no, they won't go broke. Hold they hand
out for the money.

Speaker 22 (40:09):
Now.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Did you watch that documentary on McAfee. He's the guy
that we went row again in the end. Did you
watch that?

Speaker 20 (40:17):
No, let's watch it.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Oh, yeah, he was a lot, he was paranoid in
the end.

Speaker 20 (40:23):
Is that on YouTube or.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Flip we go?

Speaker 10 (40:30):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
On Netflix? I think, Oh, I don't have that, not yet.

Speaker 20 (40:34):
But what he has to do to get.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
That, well, this is sort of out. I don't know
how much it costs, I think, Yeah, Dan, I don't know.
I don't know anything. Cost you about seventy cents a
day for Netflix?

Speaker 20 (40:53):
Oh, it's not too bad.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Twenty bucks a month. So yeah, that's with your water
and your insurer and your rates and everything, so it's
bounding up. But yeah, I think you could almost get
it a bit sketchy. You could. You can borrow someone
else's listing or something.

Speaker 20 (41:08):
Can you Is that through a did you do that
through a computer or is it through some special box
that you put into your TV.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
It's through an Apple be no good on your no
good on your Android's you got a web browser?

Speaker 20 (41:25):
All right, I'll have to look at all that, Marcus.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Where do you get your Where do you get your
IT advice from? Ross? Are you going to the library
or his advice? We've because you're pretty well you can you.

Speaker 20 (41:35):
Get anything decent from the library anymore. They threw all
the old books out.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah, they always trying to sell books. Always think it's
a been udignified.

Speaker 20 (41:41):
Oh, I just I can't. I can't believe it. It's
it's it scattered me all the good old Yeah, all
the good old books that had all the reference books,
you know, all the radio box and and all that.
That's all gone.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
What city are you?

Speaker 21 (41:55):
And Ross?

Speaker 2 (41:56):
You sound like a good unit. Come Oh of course
you are be good here. We hadn't come on. You're there.
You've got a good warehouse, you got a postal service,
you can get TIMU delivered. Gee, I city? What every
time we discussed I feel kind of egy about retail.
But wow, she's changing times, Marcus. Good Friday topics is

(42:20):
always just a quick point that BP offers every six
coffee three though they through their wild being coffee. The
BP's here at least definitely got sorted with making decent coffee.
That's from Carl Hi Marcus. I've been on hundred percent
carnivor high animal fat diet for three years. Gout and

(42:42):
joint paint gone, vision now clear, I drop visuals now
and then next day joint pain straight back. Work out
what caused inflammation? To your personal body requirements. We are
all different. One hundred percent animal based protein and fat
works for me and many others. Thank you for time,
great listing in. Does anyone still have birthdays at mecas anymore?
Or is it chipmunks or at home?

Speaker 17 (43:07):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (43:08):
I think a lot of people have birthdays at like
trampoline places that seemed to be big for a while,
or climbing walls. I mean, I mean yeah. There is
a steady progression of where to have the birthday kid's
birthday parties. We got a donkey one year that was

(43:30):
probably the most successful. Loved riding a donkey. Loved riding
a donkey. Look for the three year old. The kid
loved it, and then we got again the next year.
I think the donkey that was the best. You know,
only much for kids and then one year we took

(43:51):
thirty of them into the tide across the road, which
I thought was brave. I wouldn't have anything to do
with other was sure we had to lose one. Didn't
lose any of them into the beach. I thought, cheapest creepers.
So that shows a confidence. What about the two week
boiled egg and banana diet from nineteen seventy seven? Lost

(44:13):
lot of weight, passed just as much when then regained
all the lost weight without the wind at the end.
I'd better put you off boiled eggs in But that's
a lot of white food to eat, isn't it. And
it's a weird diet because the eggs are white on
the outside and yellow on the inside, and the bananas
is yellow on the outside and white on the inside.
It's almost like the two animal the two fruits foods

(44:35):
are like the reverse of each other. I don't even
know that's a thing, is it? Dave? Marcus? Welcome Marcus?

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Can you hear me all right?

Speaker 9 (44:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Got loud and Claire, thanks for asking you, Thanks for
coming through so clearly. I appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (44:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
Hey, I'm just on team, you know. I've gone down
that rebbit hole my me and my partner have been
buying flowers on there. She surprised me and brought me
a couple of shirts because I've seen them and we
were both but yes, about how how are we going
to turn out? But for the price you pay? I
think I'm probably got about, you know, twelve tops now,

(45:13):
and maybe two of them have we missed when we started?
We kind of missed with our size is a weebit.
But you're only paying fifteen twenty thirty dollars at the
most for a top. So and the thing is the
for me for what I wanted. There's there's there's nowhere
else that you can just walk in and buy off
the shelf anywhere the sort of stuff that they've got.

(45:36):
So yeah, I think it's fantastic. I'm actually I'm on
my way up north from tomorrow. I'll be on a
small stage at the market somewhere singing for half a day.
And I've bought a pair of pants that I got
they've got like American flag on them. I've got a
top which has also kind of got touches of the

(45:58):
American flag sort of here and there on it.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Oh look, I'm what about you, Dave? Because that gives
you confidence as a performer too, because you're putting a
bit of befefit in this, aren't you. So you getting
out there and theming it up a bit, well, yeah,
you've got to be a.

Speaker 10 (46:10):
Little bit larger.

Speaker 22 (46:12):
You know.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
The funny thing is when you stand, when you're standing
in your in your and you at home and your
lands trining the minit, it can look a bit ridiculous.
But I've weathered the storm. I realized, Okay, this this
looks a bit weird here, but on the stage and
looks fantastic. The thing is they're so top and bottoms
all right. But I'm also going to wear a jacket
that I bought. It's kind of like a hoodie type

(46:33):
of thing with a zip up the front. I bought two.
I bought the jacket and the hoodie, and then the
one without the hoodie. And these two were epic failures.
And as much as I'd always I've been on the
hunt for a jacket that's got the teessels, you know,
like the old Daily crocod.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
I'm hearing here. Look, I think you and I speaking
of every sl language. Yep, love a tessel.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
Especially the practicalities of me, know when you when you
learn a bit about them.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
So what's the practical for insects? What's the practicality?

Speaker 4 (47:07):
No, No, the Native American Indians and well I don't
know if it was the Indians first or if it
was the you know, the seat was in the day
that they wear them, you know, they make them out
a height, and the tessel was for the for the
rain to run off, so so you know, yeah, it
was it was to disperse the moisture, would.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Dis tessel sway jacket is a beautiful thing.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
Yeah, well yeah, it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Course I would to be I would to be one
of those of Temu. I think you wouldn't just as
swayed Indian INSPI jacket, you wouldn't go there.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Well, no, they're not sway you know that. That's just
it's just like a jacket that you might find it
the way it's it's it's certainly not swayed. But here's
the thing that the tessel. Because of course in the
in the picture it looks great, it's tessel. When it
turns up on your doorstep, it's printed tessels.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
So there's no no, no, oh, that's that's your countbreak
who's your audience this weekend?

Speaker 4 (48:06):
Love, it's just to the market.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
It's as what's your what's your repertoire?

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (48:14):
Everything? That's a great thing about markets. You know you
have two thousand people walk through the day, so you
just you were just as as the audience as you know.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
You've got that American wide. Shoot, you must be doing
a spring sting or something. Are you or what are
you doing?

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Look, I just it's just an excuse to wear it.
To be honest, I have I haven't had it, Like,
I haven't been game enough to wear that top and
I didn't think I would, but I tried it wrong
with the pants and you know what, that kind of
works even though it's a bit ridiculous looking, but it's
also it's also a catchy point of interest. Would you
know with a bit of bean toward the audience.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
If I saw a guy performing at the did you
say Mungi Fi Markets and say, oh, yeah, you like
but timmy jacket, I didn't realize the tassels were printed on.
You got me there for the whole Are you busking
when you're doing this? Or you could you charge your fee?

Speaker 4 (49:02):
So the market paine your attainment. I put my guitar
case out.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
And ever get big tis you did the tebo jacket
and the tesla with the test was printed on. That's
that's a raffle. That's great. And then swing around look
see see if they move in the wind, you get
a bit of a twist. And of course there's still
there printed. I'm tempted to come and actually watch it perform.

(49:26):
What time I'm up on the bigs? What time I'm
at the markets tomorrow?

Speaker 4 (49:31):
At the market, sorry, the market. The market kicks off
at about seven thirty. People start walking. I'm not supposed
to start playing till eight thirty, but it depends. If
it's real busy, it's it's seven thirty, then I start
playing it seven thirty. If it's not busy till about eight.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
It's only for a performer.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Yeah, look if there's people there. I don't know if
you've ever think of the.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah I have? I have, I have, I'm pretty sure
I have.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
It's kind of like, I mean, there's the stalls over
one in where the stage used to be all the
big bands are played with, and then and then where
I am, I'm sort of backed into a corner where
people sort of come down, put their boats in the
water and at the tides. Then it's pretty spectacular, and.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
It's pretty much it's pretty much Awkrod. Now everyone's heading there,
aren't they. They're all going there.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
It's not funny to say that yet.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
It's not the Tevern Market. It's the community market.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
Right, No, No, it's TEVN Markets.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Okay, copy that didn't know. Just managed to make sure
that's all right, yep, okay, so right, I'm not finished
with you yet. Okay, I'm just looking on Facebook. Oh yeah,
sad days eight thirty to one, well seven thirty, we
know because we've spoken to the oracle. That's funny about
the tessel jacket though, I mean that is that's probably

(50:45):
the funniest thing I've heard for twenty twenty four that
they're printed on what do I look up on temu
to see it? Tessel jacket do I?

Speaker 4 (50:57):
I'm like you, My missus is the brains the outfit.
I wouldn't even know how to like. Yeah, yeah, she
gets onto the on the team when then actually comes
up with my news, thinking now that she's brought a
couple of things, and.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
I Dave, you're a classic. Are you a good singer?

Speaker 4 (51:17):
Oh, I get work. I sing regular, I sing every
weekend here, get around a lot.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, understated, Wow, Tim Dave, did you see a copy
of the jacket?

Speaker 8 (51:29):
Then with a.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Did you see a copy of the jacket?

Speaker 8 (51:33):
On?

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Timo with a ah, and of course that it's the
good because I want fringe jackets in the Facebook feed
for the next thirty years. I'm still getting over the
agg boots.

Speaker 8 (51:45):
Craig, good evening.

Speaker 15 (51:47):
How's the game?

Speaker 9 (51:48):
Good?

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Thanks, Craig.

Speaker 11 (51:50):
Yeah, kind of along along.

Speaker 8 (51:51):
With the technology thing, I still got into the computers
to try and find my first mother in.

Speaker 15 (51:57):
New Zealand because I'm adopted, and that was a complete failure.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
I don't even say that. I always gets so heartbroken
by those stories. Okay, no, I mean not not for me.
But then it was no luck at all with it.

Speaker 9 (52:12):
No luck.

Speaker 8 (52:13):
Well it's wherever. I mean, I tried a lot of places,
and I'm sort of about putting the air in the
rate on the radio world.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Have you tried papers? Have you tried low mess on TV?

Speaker 8 (52:23):
I don't really want to go on to television.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
I respect that.

Speaker 8 (52:28):
Yeah, I sort of don't really want to hear anything
out in the public and.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
So oh good luck with that. Will you keep searching?

Speaker 8 (52:36):
I'll keep trying. I mean I've got a few health
issues and stuff, and the doctor's always saying that, what's
your family history? And I go, I have no idea, So.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
What about your DNA?

Speaker 7 (52:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (52:50):
I probably could try.

Speaker 8 (52:50):
I probably could try that. But I mean, like I
was born in Auckland nineteen seventy two, I think anyone
back in those days would really be worrying about DNA.
I suppose really.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
No, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, Craig,
And I'm loath to say that if you if one
of those DNA testing things, right, yep, and you go
into a data bank, they take your blood sample, you
send it away. They will alert you when people with
the DNA match also have had testing, so they can
say this person is your cousin or this person is
your brother. Yep, so they might and they go, hang

(53:24):
hang on, where would you fit in? And then they
could work it out, so they will put you in
touch with people that could be your relation.

Speaker 8 (53:34):
Yeah, do you understand?

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Do you understand that?

Speaker 8 (53:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (53:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (53:37):
And when you get that done, you get your local
GP or no.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
It's like overseas companies do it. It's like a yeah,
it's like a.

Speaker 8 (53:48):
I was a lot that we see on TV that
ancestry INTERESTY got dog type thing.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Or do it is No, I don't think that's it.
That's when you buy the This is a yeah, it's
read read about. There's plenty written about it. Read about
it first because of course, for some people don't like
giving away because you're actually giving away your DNA is
your building block for you, So you're giving it to

(54:13):
a private company in one hundred years, if they want
to start manufacturing versions of you, they could use your
DNA to do that. That's one of the concerns. But
a lot of people it's a really valuable tool and
finding family connections. But you know, there's real pitfalls with it.

Speaker 8 (54:28):
But yeah, but I mean the main from my heir
is one of my conditions, I'm like virtually impaired, so
I can't use computing much nowadays. Just to get my
older pearance to do anything online is a complete nightmare.
Get against the war game.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Yeah, I can understand that. And it doesn't seem to
be people really providing the assistance for helping people with
online stuff. I know the libraries used to be good
with that. But they're overwhelmed.

Speaker 8 (54:56):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Anyway, I didn't want to say, what was your experience
with buying it online?

Speaker 8 (55:02):
I bought a whole lot of stuff through trade me
years ago, and I found the guy was really really good.
And i'd worded some model playing parts because they used
to do a lot of stuff with model planes yep.
And ordered them a couple of motors and they get
two more extra ones in the mail and I string
them up and go, well, what's that? What's these extra ones?
When he goes I was looking at and I wasn't

(55:24):
really happy. What's what I was giving you for? What
you're paying for is through some shines for you? Okay?

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Cool?

Speaker 8 (55:31):
So yeah, it's really really good. But the thing I
find really annoying is when you forget to put comments
on how good do you think they were? And then
you keep getting handled by emails you haven't made a
comment and all that sort of stuff like, oh, yeah,
I must get around to doing that.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
But people are I've got four texts. Right, It's a
saliva test, not a blood test. You're spit into a tube.
It's called ancestry dot com. Okay, yeah, Graig, good luck
with that. But you know, no, I've never done it.
I wouldn't do it. But ancestry is one of the
best sites of finding lot of help out there for you.

(56:08):
H Gareth, it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 9 (56:11):
Yes today, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Thank you, Gareth. Not to hear from you.

Speaker 9 (56:15):
I just wanted to give that guy that was on
about finding his relations it works. It worked for me.
I found out I was a twin and I had
a sister. I contacted through through your program actually many

(56:38):
years ago, and I didn't know this, but I had
a twin with the same surname and I had a
sister as well. It took eight years, but it can
be done if you if you've got the same surname.
DNA is marvelous.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
So did you do the saliva taste?

Speaker 9 (57:02):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Oh wow, yes, hey you ago.

Speaker 9 (57:06):
That was But I know, I know I'm a twin
and my twin is dead and fortunately, but I've got
a sister I talked to back in Whales regularly.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
So had your sister herself done a saliva test?

Speaker 9 (57:23):
Yes, we both, we both, we both tried to find
each other.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Basically, did she know that she had a brother.

Speaker 9 (57:30):
No, Well, she found she contacted me because we come
from quite a large family. There was five of us
and two of us were adopted and me, I'm my
twin brother who died actually still so it's well worth it.

(57:50):
I loved it because I thought I was an only
child for years.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Gareth, did this might be a question that but you
sound like you're in good spirits. Did the family keep
three children and adopt out two of them?

Speaker 8 (58:06):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Wow, well why would they do that?

Speaker 9 (58:12):
I come from come brown in Gwent in Wales. I
emigrated to New Zealand forty two years ago, and funny enough,
so did my sister. Yeah, so we've got heaps of relations.

Speaker 15 (58:27):
In New Zealand.

Speaker 9 (58:29):
Goodness that that's why I'm happy.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Oh I can imagine. But yeah, and.

Speaker 9 (58:34):
I'm seventy two now. Yeah, it was It's an experience,
that's all I'll say. Yeah, don't don't, don't give up.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
You know.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Had that been a long quist for you?

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (58:51):
God?

Speaker 8 (58:51):
Yes, yes.

Speaker 9 (58:53):
When my grandparents died, they left us a lot of
photograph albums and I thought, there's this little boy, so
there's this girl. Because it's all about the same edem
My twin actual was exactly the same age as because
when my sister was a year older. Now we were.
We found that this many years later.

Speaker 8 (59:14):
That we were.

Speaker 9 (59:16):
Our parents were Salvation Army people, and they were in
out in India, and they might have believed in God,
but they didn't believe in their family. If you know
what I mean, I mean it's funny to me. No,
it wasn't then.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Unbelievable. Yeah, I kind of kind I kindabated the Salvation
Army having much success in India.

Speaker 21 (59:40):
No.

Speaker 9 (59:41):
No, but there's a charity, remember, not a church.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Ah, I didn't know that, is it? What's the distinction?

Speaker 9 (59:49):
No, definitely, Yes, I mean Salvation Army are the biggest
charity in the world. They do marvelous work. I still
belong to them myself, but I believe in the charity.
I don't believe in God.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Yeah, okay, understand. Oh it's all interesting. Okay. Have you
been back to Wales?

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (01:00:05):
I go every two years.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Any good?

Speaker 9 (01:00:09):
Oh I love it, yeah, love it. But fortune me
for us, we live in the best country in the
world concerned. If you can't make it here, go somewhere
else to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Hear from you, Gareth. Thank you. We've kind of pivoted
to talking about the success of ancestry dot com. The
last kind of significant article I read about it from
a woman that was one of the America's greatest DNA
investigators that used ancestry dot while she used these things,
but she was someone that was just free, very good

(01:00:41):
at working out missing people from families and stuff like that.
But she says, I forget where. I don't know that
I understand it. I can remember every aspect of the
article that I read. But what stuck with me is
that for a lot of cases, when you might just

(01:01:05):
be curious, or you might be looking to see a
different relative and stuff, there are a lot of unwanted,
uncomfortable truths that can be revealed. And the major unwanted
truth is that how do I say this delicately? I

(01:01:27):
don't even know how to say that. I don't know
how to what the words for it are, that you
could find out that you're I don't even know how
the how to explain the whole thing. So yeah, let
me just say that your family tree is a lot

(01:01:52):
simpler than you might have imagined. So there's, you know,
there's it could have been a result of incest or
something like that, and people have find you know, so
suddenly you've got to be prepared for those sorts of
things that that there's there's some sort of stuff that
hasn't discovered for a reason, not of course, that she
shouldn't be discovered, but you know, you've got to be
prepared that it might not be this great new family

(01:02:14):
that you're going to find your great new family, but
you might find that the circumstances and all that's revealed too.
Because of the science, they can find all of that
straight away. So yeah, sorry to explain that so and
elegantly anyway, but thank you for those calls and texts.
Ten past ten Marcus Gareth call amazing, so please he
found his family. DNA can also bring heartache and unwanted surprises. Yeah,

(01:02:35):
my youngest daughter, out of the blue, has been contacted
by someone claiming to be her half sister. She's shared
with me, but not her two siblings. She's undecided as
to what to do. Secrets. I said that not in
the text Marcus, did my DNA found heaps of family.
Also found out my great grandfather had son Noah knew

(01:02:57):
about so found heaps of cousins as well. Very interesting.
Thanks to Tracy Marcus, I got my DNA done through
ancestry dot Com. Found out my granddad had a child.
We didn't know about how to cousin match by DNA.
We email each other. My DNA was really accurate and
results have got a lot better since and they update
you too. Amazing the percentages too of each country our DNA.

(01:03:20):
It's worth the money. It's my father the easiest way
to find people. My adopted uncle found twelve siblings between
his birth mother and four kids and birth father head
kids to two wives plus my uncle. It's good for
medical reasons. Janice Marcus, you've made me hungry talking about diet.
Since talking about McDonald's. I've jumped out of bed, made

(01:03:45):
my stuff an omelet, three eggs, ham cheese, tomato, wow,
and a glass of RaRo. Do not hear about rara anymore?
Good on you, Dave Marcus, welcome, good evening. Hi Dave.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Thanks that's taken my call. Marcus. I was wondering you're
doing all right on the radio awards sah think how
much how much credit didn't go to the callers?

Speaker 22 (01:04:10):
Do you think.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Why all of it? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
I think so what lot?

Speaker 8 (01:04:15):
All of it?

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
But probably not even singer?

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Well, what what are you without your callers, you're nothing,
You're like a You're like a part of that as words.

Speaker 11 (01:04:25):
That's what I wanted to hear.

Speaker 8 (01:04:27):
Thank you, good one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Your listeners is I think with radio the most important
thing is the listeners. The are the ones you don't
hear of the uncelebrated Colin. It's Marcus.

Speaker 19 (01:04:43):
Good evening and welcome, excellent, Thank thanks Marcus. I'll run
off a few names, Judy Bailey, Mark Bennett, and you
would have known them, wouldn't you. Yes, Well, strangely I

(01:05:06):
switched on Marry Television tonight and here's Judy Bailey on
one of those intrepid journeys goodness, and it was absolutely fascinating.
I thought, you're interested, maybe interested? You know, your listeners
may be interested in that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Yes, tell me where she was?

Speaker 19 (01:05:24):
She was in Brazil? She was, Yeah, And it was
absolutely It brought back so many memories because I knew
her quite well.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
I knew who well.

Speaker 19 (01:05:40):
Yeah, I knew her quite well. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Were you in broadcast in Colin?

Speaker 19 (01:05:46):
And I was in quite a few stars on Sunday
and a TV show which went to Switzerland with Lori
d and a few others in it. And I was
a classical singer. They put me in, put me in

(01:06:08):
a show called Trial by Jury by Gilvid and Sullivan
because I'm a classical singer. And they put me in
with Laurie D and ray Wolf and all those and
I met her.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Through that also, of because Lori D was a great singer, and.

Speaker 19 (01:06:28):
Yeah, well I was a bass he couldn't do the
low notes, so they dubbed them my voice and on his.
They put me in with all the pop singers for
this particular show on TV two and also a couple
of Stars on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
What was the TV two show called.

Speaker 19 (01:06:49):
Stars on Sunday? And the one that ray Wolf and
Laurie were in was Trial by Jury by Gilvid and Sullivan.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Okay, he was done as a pop show.

Speaker 19 (01:07:01):
Okay, Bridge Allen, that's another name.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Well they respect full of your pipes.

Speaker 19 (01:07:08):
Oh yes, it was marvelous. And I being with all
the pop singers and me being classical.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Singer, yeah, imagined that would be fun.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
It was.

Speaker 19 (01:07:20):
But Mark then and I noticed the other about six
months ago he died.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
No, really, you sure?

Speaker 19 (01:07:29):
I'm pretty sure it was him that I read about.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
I don't like to I don't like to say people
I think I would have heard about it.

Speaker 19 (01:07:35):
I know it's a very touchy subject. Correct.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
I don't know if I want to announce people's demise
when they because he was a broadcast he was a
talk show host as well, and I thought I would
have heard of it, yes.

Speaker 19 (01:07:50):
And Gordon Sinclair of course also was and Radio Pacific
at that time, and Lindsey.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Perigo, Jeff, Jeff's clear, all.

Speaker 19 (01:08:01):
These names on the past.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Yeah, I don't know we if you're right about Mark Bennett,
but I'll fat check that one.

Speaker 8 (01:08:11):
Colin.

Speaker 19 (01:08:12):
Yeah, I have made an error.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
There, Yeah, bed Era, but that's fine. But yeah, I
thought I would have heard one of those radio he's
in radio websites. But you know it's good old Judy Bailey.
And could there'd be twenty years ago?

Speaker 19 (01:08:25):
Yes, is she's still going Judy Bailey?

Speaker 13 (01:08:29):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Goodness?

Speaker 19 (01:08:31):
Yeah, but it was so refreshing to see her, you know,
in Mexico and quite agile and that, and that would
be about thirty to forty years ago, I think, wouldn't
it maybe twenty? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Of course. The great one to watch is Kevin Milner
in the Ukraine. Now that's war torn of course.

Speaker 19 (01:08:52):
Oh yes, I seen that also, yeah, have.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
You seen homesy And.

Speaker 19 (01:09:01):
Yes, I saw that one. Also that was full.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Homes with the goat is seeing. Have you seen Michael
Laws on top of the train in the endies? I?

Speaker 19 (01:09:12):
No, I didn't see that one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Marcus Snow, that's one of the greats. I don't think
it was easy to get on top of the train either.

Speaker 11 (01:09:18):
Just quietly yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Okay, nice to talk. There we go. Goodness Marc is
an excellent heartbreaking podcast by arian Z g Cold Nellie's
Baby about adopted Dy's teaching from other and fines out
her mother was institutionalized back in the day's sad story,
but has some happiness when the daughters traces her other

(01:09:43):
Faro connections. That's from Nick. Now, there's another book about
adoption right that I read two years ago, and I
don't know why the book didn't get more attention because
it was extraordinary. I don't know why it didn't get attention,
but I'll find the name of it, because what I

(01:10:05):
want to tell you you is unbelievable. Chips. It was
a good read, and I'm trying to think it was
called Tree of Strangers, and it's just harrowing about adoption

(01:10:27):
and I know that adoption has changed. I know that
it's political, well not political, but you know there's people
that still feel very very angry about it. But this
woman who wrote this book about adoption called Barbara Summers
Flip it was it. So the details I don't remember

(01:10:48):
all of them, but the gist of it was that
she was adopted out. I think her mother was an
air hostess, very glamorous, successful international woman, and she traced
her that she traced her mother, I forget who it

(01:11:10):
was through getting the births to forgets through legal changes.
It was difficult, it was quite hard to do. And
she'd always wanted to meet this desperate to meet her mother.
And her mother's got living the high life. She's in
France or the Mediterranean. So she decides to come back

(01:11:31):
to visit her daughter, who's now an adult. And yeah,
and the plane crashes on takeoff and I think she's
already on the way across the coast of the she's
living on the west coast, going to christ Church to
meet the plane that her mother's coming back. I never
arrived because the plane crashed, like a major plane crash

(01:11:55):
the most. So all that time to meet that mother
and finally on the CUSP the day before it happened.
Just the cruelest thing. Yeah, wow, what a read, really
incredibly powerful to get a chance. I don't quite know
why the book didn't, because I just thought it was
extraordinary Tree of Strange as it was called, but flip

(01:12:16):
it was a tough read. Hi, Trudy, it's Marcus. Welcome,
good evening.

Speaker 21 (01:12:22):
Hi thanks Marcus, first time caller.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
So here we are I hear from your Trudy.

Speaker 21 (01:12:27):
Yeah, I'd like to talk about a happy ending for
an ancestry dot com for meat. My mum had me
in the sixties, so I was an only child, was
single mother until she met my dad and he adopted
me when I was two. So we always went through

(01:12:49):
my life knowing that I didn't have a dad and
I was never whole, and my mother never kind of
came forward with any information or give me any information.
So I kind of went through and now I'm in
my fifties, my whole life not knowing who I was,
of people never kind of understood that how you felt

(01:13:10):
about not being the whole person. And anyway, I went
on ancestry dot com for about ten years, and about
three months ago I got a notification that my father
and half sister. And this is a surprising thing, is
he never knew I existed. Yeah, so the only reason

(01:13:34):
they found out was my half sister, which is in
England's married to a lovely man that does genealogy and
he did a podcast and he brought her a kit
for Christmas and she thought it was a great idea
that she would give it to her fat mother and father,
which have been together forever. And yes, and then well

(01:13:56):
he found out he had a daughter.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Is your mother still alive? Truty?

Speaker 5 (01:14:01):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Was she okay about you doing it?

Speaker 21 (01:14:05):
We actually don't really talk, but.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
It was judgment, Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:14:10):
My dad my dad. So I have a I call
my father my birth father. And my dad was really cool.
I have an amazing relationship with him, and he's always
been really cool. But I've never kind of really got
a hard time when I was growing up about trying
to ask questions and never got you know, I got
some really horrible, nasty things.

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
And actually, when I used to watch David Lomas, I used.

Speaker 21 (01:14:34):
To cry because I never felt never felt like I
was ever a whole And yeah, trying to explain to
people and that kind of you grow up and go
through life, you know, not knowing. But my father, my
father is absolutely amazing. We've caught up and lots of times,

(01:14:54):
and him and his wife are absolutely open arms right
from the word go.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
They are. They in New Zealand crazy.

Speaker 21 (01:15:04):
I've met them, like I haven't met them, but we
were like they only lived about fifteen minutes away from
where I grew up. They grew up in the same
kind of town and their kids went. Actually knew my cousins,
which my dad's brothers kids.

Speaker 18 (01:15:20):
And yeah, it was all very into linked and very close.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
And truly, if you were just hang on the hang on,
I just can't take the headliner. So I just it's
got a couple more questions to all things to talk
to you about. So I just told your horses there,
I'll get with you when I can. Sorry, truly, So
you said I didn't they are and yeah, yeah, half
And you don't talk to your adopted dad or your

(01:15:43):
mother or just your mother, you don't talk no, no, yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:15:46):
I'm just my mother. They're not together anymore. So they
we had a family. So we've got five brothers and
sisters and stuff. But we yeah, yeah, so yeah, I'm
absolutely really close to my dad, my adopted dad.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
And yeah, so you're the you're the oldest of five.

Speaker 21 (01:16:05):
I'm the well, no, because my dad had two children first,
so they were like me brothers, and then I'm the
oldest to my mother.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Okay, so it's a good story.

Speaker 21 (01:16:16):
A great story. Absolutely great.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
Now.

Speaker 21 (01:16:19):
I you know, I used to say to I just
feel whole Now I know where I came from. I
know I've got a few traits and that is from
my father, and it's and it's awesome to be whole,
and it's just it's completely changed my whole way I
think about life and more positive and feel myself great,
really more positive, which is amazing. I'm sad that he's

(01:16:44):
such a great father that I haven't had those fifty
seven years. But actually at the end of the day,
you know, you just go forward and know that you've
got an amazing father. That actually was just a surprise
to know that you know that he had a child
out there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Did you phone him.

Speaker 21 (01:17:04):
Well, he was on he was well, he did the test,
so he got it. With the DNA testing, now they
get they get notified by email. So I got a
notification about my half sister, and I got a note
of vacation from obviously from my father, and so I
messaged them and actually I ended up faced doing a

(01:17:27):
bit of stalking face books talking, but you know, I
messaged his wife and she's absolutely amazing, credible. Maybe she
just absolutely just like obviously, it was a bit of
a shock to them as well, and yeah, and kind
of worked back and yeah and love just being open arms.

(01:17:47):
So they actually adopted a child as well, their second
They had two children, two girls, and they adopted one
when she was two days old, and she's been trying
to find her mother and father. So I think that
there was a bonus for me because you know, understanding
parents that knew what their youngest daughter was going through.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
But you know, for those coming you weren't adopted, just
didn't know who your father was, right.

Speaker 20 (01:18:15):
No, I was.

Speaker 8 (01:18:16):
I wasn't.

Speaker 21 (01:18:16):
My my mum's my real mum, but my dad, my
dad adopted me under his name, so I use his name. Yeah,
when I was two, when I was two, So he's
been my dad my whole life.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Truy, thanks so much for calling in, Thanks for heading
out over the news as well. Hello, Okay, it's Marcus
Good evening him, Marcus, I.

Speaker 16 (01:18:35):
Just fall I've let you know. I'm just downloaded that book.
Reviews just mentioned three of structure Strange Strangers on my
Alexa Frida Blind Foundation.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Oh god, does she read it herself? The author?

Speaker 16 (01:18:53):
Yeah? No, I'm not too sure who's going to read it,
but it's definitely on there. I just I want to
download that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
Book as adoption part of your life.

Speaker 16 (01:19:06):
No, no, it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
We'll get some tissues. It's a it's a rough ride. Yeah,
oh yeah, be careful with that. Yeah, it's heartbreaking, but
that's life. I suppose. Now Here we go. This is
from Emma Hi Marcus. For fun, I did in ancestry
DNA about five years ago. I had a contact request.

(01:19:29):
It was from a man in the USA who was
ready to me via my dad. I forwarded it to
my father to contact and investigate, as he has all
his family tree history. It happened that this man in
Arizona had been looking most of his adult life for
his family connection to the UK. The legend, so to speak,

(01:19:54):
was a great great et cetera. Grandmother became pregnant to
a higher ranking man who been a publican, then left
to start her life in the USA. This branch of
my father's family had been never discovered till now. Bill

(01:20:16):
from Arizona as the same age as my father are
now very good friends, sharing family tree histories and similar tastes,
particularly sending each other photos of animals and where we
all live so very different to them. This was out
of the blue for my dad and it was the
final link. Bill had been searching for a lovely outcome yours, Emma,

(01:20:36):
think of that, Emma, Marcus. There is also Ali expressed
that similar to Temu and Wish, I've always seen all
the clothes on Temu and they've always looked ghastly. But
he's a performer looking for something that's good on stage.

(01:20:56):
So yeah, yeah, if you see me wearing clothes from
take me out and give me a tap, because yeah,
I mean, there's nothing good about bad fabric. I mean,
if I have the wrong socks on, it ruins mid day.
If they're not mentioning, I'm gonna be a bit careful
with clothes. It's not symmetrical. Bizarre. I've never ever seen

(01:21:25):
anyone tow a golf card on a bike the golf trolley.
It was kind of an interesting call that one oh,
lotto tomorrow, so they'll probably be queues outside a lot

(01:21:45):
of outlets. I won't buy a lot, oh, but for
fifty minute, I'll buy lotto. If I win, I will
be at work on Monday. Will you be able to
tell Do I at work? Yes? Do I have one lotto? Probably? Will?

(01:22:08):
Would I stop working? I don't know. I'd rather not
one than have to focus on than have to deal
with the decision. Actually, should I stop? Should I go on?
Should I follow my heart? I don't know the answer
that question. I'm still underside each day what to imagine

(01:22:30):
if there was no work. It's fifty days until the
opening of the Paris twenty twenty four Olympics twenty sixth
July to eleventh of August. That'll be great. The Olympics
are always great. I love the Olympics. And today is
VCR day huge And anyone's still got a VCR that

(01:22:56):
they use, I'd like to hear from you about that.
But yeah, that's about everything I can tell you. Twelve
away from eleven my name is Marcus. Welcome eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty and nine nine to two de
text with it or twelve tonight is something different. You
want to mention that's good as well. Looking forward to
hearing from you. Oh eight hundred and eighty eight in
nineteen nine to de text email of course as well.

(01:23:19):
Who that's always there as an option straight through Meggie.
It's Marcus welcoming. Good evening, Hi Meggie, Hi Marcus.

Speaker 8 (01:23:27):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
Thank you? Meggie.

Speaker 23 (01:23:30):
Yeah, I guess I was just driving home actually from
catching up with some friends and sort of thought to myself,
you know, adoptions. Actually, I'm sort of on the other
side of that. My my aunt adopted as a child
before I was actually born, you know, sort of in
the seventies. I guess sort of had a relationship, but it,

(01:23:52):
you know, didn't work out, and she decided to give
up the child. And I guess I found it like
there's a missing part of our family that has never
sort of been sounds.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
Yeah, And she remembered.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
She and she was unfairly persuaded to do that, was
she Meggie.

Speaker 23 (01:24:13):
She didn't actually tell anyone in the family that that
was what was going on.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Okay, so it was it was a poor decision that
she made on her Ryan is it how she doesn't
It doesn't meant yet Okay, I mean I can't.

Speaker 23 (01:24:25):
I can't. I can't say about that. I mean not.
All I remember was as a child. So I came
along probably five or six years later, and I guess,
you know, I remember she was my godmother as well
as my auntie, and I sort of remember times where
she would hold me super tight and be crying and
I didn't really sort of understand what was going on.

(01:24:49):
But I mean, I guess the sad thing for me
is that I've got a a cousin who's sort of
five years old or whatever. He must be in his fifties,
and I had no way of getting in touch with them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Did draw up God? But did she have other children?

Speaker 23 (01:25:07):
No, she didn't, and she was she was quite worried
about finding him. So I would ask her, you know,
whether she would look into it, but she just felt like,
really super hesitant. I think she always worried that something
bad had happened to him.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Of course we passed away, I would have gone to
a family that were that didn't treat I had never
thought of that. It just I just find all that stuff.
So you and obviously too, that the whole thing of
adoption were all and I'm sure there was great examples,
but obviously too it's I think the whole attitude towards
it's changed quite a lot, hasn't it.

Speaker 23 (01:25:46):
You know that massively, massively. I mean, let's face it now,
Now you know there's a look towards you know, who
could possibly look after the child and all these different things,
and you know, who knows what was going through her
mind at the time, you know, some kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
Solution, But that's a decision that has ruined her life,
hasn't it.

Speaker 23 (01:26:08):
Well, unfortunately, she actually passed away a year ago, so
I feel like even more sort of thoughts that, you know,
I might go throughout my life and not actually find
out who this person is or try and make contact
and say there is actually there are actually people out
here who are thinking about you and want to know
how you are.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Do you think you still owe it to her?

Speaker 23 (01:26:32):
I don't think she actually would want me to find him.
I don't know why. I mean, I did probe it
with her for a long time, but I think the
thing for me is is that that's actually someone that's
part of us, you know, the whole FUNO and I
and I sort of think, how can I actually make

(01:26:52):
contact and I don't think legally there is a way
and then.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
You do it through DNA, but yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
Have, I have.

Speaker 23 (01:27:01):
I'm on the ancestry dot com. Yes, you know DNA.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
So you've done this, You've done this saliva thing. Yeah yeah, okay, okay,
well then you'll ye.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
And and for me, and just just to be clear
for people, I don't. I have got no experience in
my life or about adoption at all. But I don't know,
but it affects me so incredibly deep deeply. And even
though I can't even watch those David Loman, you know,
I just get, I just get. It's just too heartbreaking
for me. I just I don't know why, but I
just I just and I've never even been affected by it,

(01:27:34):
but I just get so upset by it.

Speaker 23 (01:27:38):
It's an interesting thing. I mean, I'm currently actually studying
counseling ands items, and one massive part of the start
of this course has them looking at your cultural identity,
looking at where you came from and how you're shaped
by that, and you know, sort of all the familial
systems and stuff that go on within your life. And

(01:28:01):
I think there's got to be a big question mark there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Ilive it exit up against Dad's Megan. But thank you
so much for that call. I appreciate it greatly. Wow,
thank you. Hi Glinda, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 7 (01:28:15):
I'm Marcus. We had a very interesting DNA situation four
years ago. My husband and I both did DNA tests
primarily just to find out where our ancestors came from.
And my husband's came back and he was in about

(01:28:42):
three or four days. We were starting to get he
was getting phone calls from people. How they got our
phone number. I do not know to say that you
have a big family. So we request did his original

(01:29:07):
booth certificate? Are there markers?

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (01:29:15):
Okay? We requested his original booth certificate and we got
that within a week, and it had his mother's and
father's birth names or appearance on the certificate, and that

(01:29:35):
we were really quite surprised about. But it was a
very unusual surname for his for his family. So we
queried the whether the booth tests and marriages had actually

(01:29:55):
done the right thing with the right name, and it
turned out the spelling on his new booth certificate was wrong,
but anyway, the rectified it and it turned out that
my husband, Gregg, he had seven brothers and sisters, all

(01:30:17):
to the same parents.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (01:30:22):
Yeah, he didn't know he was adopted when he was
about He was adopted at four months age of age,
and I always knew as a young child that he
was adopted.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Just take on their place, glender. Oh thanks for hanging
on the glender. I don'd like to hang it on there.
So your husband had your husband all those brothers and sisters,
and he kind of he knew they were there, or
he didn't know they were there.

Speaker 7 (01:30:50):
No, we had no idea we had real family.

Speaker 21 (01:30:54):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (01:30:55):
And it was to be blood family. Was seven, seven
of them to the same appearance. It was quite scary
to find that out.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 7 (01:31:12):
Yeah, and they did. None of the kids knew that
Greg existed.

Speaker 5 (01:31:18):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (01:31:20):
Yep, So that was that was quite a scary thing actually.
So his mother and father carried that secret to the
death seopers yep. And that's been I think that's probably
been one of the hardest things to accept.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (01:31:43):
You know, you hear a lot of these stories about
adoptions and things, and the mothers have carried the child
and their hearts forever. But we do we do know
that Gregg's real mother, she was only because she was

(01:32:05):
twenty and she had the baby in one of the
homes in christ Church. But from there Greg was adopted
woman who's four months old.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
Was he the first of the children?

Speaker 7 (01:32:23):
Yes, he was the eldest, Yes, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
So what's happened for him?

Speaker 19 (01:32:29):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
Are they all? Has he met them all and he's
close with them all?

Speaker 7 (01:32:33):
You know, we've met them all, all of them excepting
there the brother won two years younger than Greg. Sadly
he passed away.

Speaker 6 (01:32:45):
Year.

Speaker 7 (01:32:46):
He passed away about three months before we met, before
we found out all this information. Yeah, but anyway, the family,
because they're all from Wellington, they put on a lovely
big family reunion. Greg and we went up there and
meet all the family and it was Marcus was unbelievable.

(01:33:10):
There was about sixty people there and you know, we
were people on show and that was quite scary.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
Did all those did all those brothers, sorry, did all
those brothers and sisters suspect that there was a missing brother?
Did they have an instinct?

Speaker 7 (01:33:31):
No, no one knew, but they.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
Did they suspect? They didn't suspect or have any They
didn't say things like we always wondered. Okay, that's interesting yep.
Not like there's an answer.

Speaker 7 (01:33:44):
Apparently mum was a bit of a wayward girl yep.
And they think that there still could be more kids
out there and they haven't come forward yet.

Speaker 14 (01:33:55):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (01:33:56):
But anyway, you know, we went to Wellington. They had
this big reunion with the whole family and it was
there was probably fifty people there and it was absolutely
horrendous because we don't Greg and I are quite private
people and we don't have any children. And then the

(01:34:22):
unbelievable thing is all of his brothers and sisters. His
sister below him has got eight children to two different husbands,
and so many of the others have also got several
children to several partners. And here's Greg and I. We've

(01:34:46):
never had children.

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
So your family's suddenly got a lot bigger.

Speaker 7 (01:34:54):
Oh, our family on greg Stide is huge, absolutely huge yep.
And that's that's quite dawn, it is. And we're not
we're not close to all of them. But fortunately we've

(01:35:15):
got one one of Greek's brothers that lives in Rangiura
and we live at Mount MyFord, so it's not that
far and we see them, see them and his family
quite a lot.

Speaker 19 (01:35:32):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
Well I appreciate you coming through Glitteran. Thanks having through
the news. It was a great story. Thank you, Lisa.
It's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 17 (01:35:40):
Hi there. So I'm adopted. My parents couldn't have children,
so they adopted me, and then very quickly they felt
pregnant with my sister. And growing up all my life,
we'd always known that I was adopted, they told I
don't even remember not knowing. And I was always very
adamant that I never wanted to find my birth family

(01:36:04):
because my family will also. My mum was awesome, my
dad was awesome, my sister's amazing. I was just really happy.
I had the greatest upbringing. But then I kind of
like my dad and my sister really wanted me to
find my birth family, and I resisted for years, and
then I decided, oh well, and may as well. And

(01:36:25):
I found out that my birth mother had put a
VITO on my birth certificate, so I couldn't get any information.
But those vetas only last ten years and then they
have to renew them. So as soon as the ten
years was up, I sent in another application, and for
some reason she hadn't renewed it, or she'd forgotten, or

(01:36:45):
she hadn't done it yet, and I got the birth
certificate with her name on it, and so then tracking
her down after that was really easy. Trapped her down,
found out so awesome, found out that she'd remarried and
her husband had passed away. Managed to find the cemetery

(01:37:07):
he was buried in, got them to take a photo
of the headstone, which showed that she had three more children.
I went on Facebook and located her children, which are
my brothers. Still didn't want to get in contact with them.
Was followed like having a look and seeing what they
were up to, and they were married and they had children,

(01:37:30):
and then I went, ah, and as we'll get in contact.
And so after trying to go and go to the
town that my oldest brother was living in, and it
was during COVID lockdowns, so I could never get out
of Auckland, I finally decided to write him a letter
and about six weeks after that he rang me, and

(01:37:53):
that the day I will never forget talking to him
for the first time. I was crying, he was crying.
It was amazing. And then a couple of months after that,
I drove to his town and went and met him
and his wife and their daughter, And I'll tell you
I love those people so much. Being adopted was awesome.

Speaker 14 (01:38:20):
You've got this.

Speaker 17 (01:38:21):
Whole other family and you love them in a completely
different way. And I still defise me to explain how
that feeling of love is because I love my mom
and dad and my sister, but I love those boys
and they're basically strangers to me. I didn't grow up

(01:38:44):
with them. I don't know much about their history and
the formers of years, but there's a bond that you
can't explain.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
And sorry is your mother to say? Stor is she's
still alive?

Speaker 9 (01:39:03):
My birth mother, yes.

Speaker 17 (01:39:05):
Was a live three years ago when I got in
contact with them, and she wanted nothing to do with me.
She didn't want to meet me. She didn't want to
know anything about me, but the boys did. And then
a year after I got in touch with the boys,
she passed away. So I never ever got to see
her or meet her. But she had no interest in

(01:39:29):
meeting me at all.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
Did your brothers explain why she was like that? Why
she might have been like that?

Speaker 17 (01:39:37):
Yeah, they said she had quite a traumatic life. So
she had the three boys, and then her husband was
killed in an accident and she apparently said to somebody
that her husband, who was the love of her life
was taken from her as punishment for giving me away.

(01:39:59):
So she kind of always blamed, kind of blamed.

Speaker 4 (01:40:05):
That on me, And.

Speaker 17 (01:40:08):
Yeah, meeting me would have just retraumatized her, and some
funny way.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
You can understand that that weird logic, can't you. I mean,
that was powerful to her.

Speaker 23 (01:40:19):
It was.

Speaker 17 (01:40:20):
And I'm a firm believer and if someone doesn't want
to know, you don't force them. You know, she was
living her life okay without me, and I was certainly
living a great life without it. Yeah, but I got
the bonus of having three brothers. It's just an amazing feeling.

(01:40:42):
I never thought it would feel like, as they always
all my life, grew up going I don't need those people.
Then nothing to me. They didn't want me in their lives.
They kicked me out, and this wonderful family put me in.
And that's where my loyalties are. But when me and

(01:41:03):
in my sister who lives in England, came over from
England last year and we went to meet the boys,
and I've just embraced her the same way they've embraced me.
So it's like a whole nott of family. It's awesomely amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
Yeah, what's the legal stuff is it? I know there's
always changes, do you know across the changes the adoption
at what they're trying to do to make it more
discover What are you across all that sort of I
remember that that book I've read about Tree of Strangers.
There was a lot of stuff that it seems like
the laws were quite Oh she's got quite draconian.

Speaker 17 (01:41:42):
Right, No, yeah, they were back in the nineteen sixties
and seventeen. It was like, you don't even see your baby.
You're lucky if you do, you have the baby, it's
taken away.

Speaker 14 (01:41:56):
That's it.

Speaker 17 (01:41:58):
That's the end of it for you. And the Adult
Adoption Information Act meant that either the adoptee or the
birth parent could apply for information, but it wasn't always granted.
The other person had to agree to her. Okay, with
these open adoptions now, it's very different, and I'm glad

(01:42:20):
mine wasn't like that, But I think it would be
confused for a child that's my mom and dad, but
that's my mom and dad.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
But also maybe maybe it might have made your birth
mother feel a lot less haunted by Less blamed on
it that she could have had the chance to actually think, Okay, yeah,
it might have been quite different.

Speaker 17 (01:42:45):
She never wanted. She never wanted. She was quite happy
to say goodbye to that baby and move on with
her life. For those people that are thinking that they
might want to hunt down their birth family, for me,
I never thought it would be wonderful. And it's more

(01:43:06):
than one good time.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
Yeah, okay, good advice.

Speaker 17 (01:43:09):
I might just be lucky.

Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
Yeah, okay, nice to hear from you. Thank you for that,
Lisa Julian. It's Marcus.

Speaker 20 (01:43:19):
Hello, there you go, And how are you coping? Marcus
is a pretty raw, amazing show.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
Yeah, look, I'm good with it.

Speaker 9 (01:43:25):
I could.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Yeah. Look, as I say, it's not affected me. But
I just love people's carriage in the stories. So yeah,
but people's lives are people's loves, people's lives. You can't
judge people. You don't know what kind of art act
they've got a.

Speaker 11 (01:43:42):
No, that's right.

Speaker 20 (01:43:43):
Well, look guy, my adoption story is that my son
got in contact about twenty years ago. Yes, he's fifty
four now. Yeah, I had him with his mum when
I was seeing in high school. Well, and he's become
a huge part of our family. He's a fantastic human being,

(01:44:04):
a fantastic man's His parents were amazing people. We met them,
we've had them for Christmas dinner a couple of times,
and it's just one of those good adoption stories.

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
Great And did you always know suspect, think you'd find
him or you hoped.

Speaker 20 (01:44:22):
Or myself and his birth mother always kept it as
an open adoption. So and I told my my wife
when I first met her that you know, I have
a child out there that may someday knock on the door.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
And he did.

Speaker 20 (01:44:43):
And there was there was a lot of other coincidences
that along the way how we how we sort of met.
I won't go into those, but yeah, look it's great,
he's and he's an amazing person and I'm so I'm
so very grateful to his mum and dad that raised
him to be such an awesome person.

Speaker 2 (01:45:05):
Did the people to talk about you when you have
had a child up for adoption, always looking at people
of that certain age in the face wondering if they
are your child? Was that like that for you?

Speaker 16 (01:45:16):
Yes?

Speaker 24 (01:45:16):
Sort of.

Speaker 20 (01:45:17):
My wife and I had a friend that was tragically
killed overseas and it turned out when she came back
to New Zealand to get buried that a brother that
she never knew she had turned up and it was
her full brother. It was her mum and dad had

(01:45:39):
a boy when they were unmarried and put the should
up for adoption, but never told the sister. And then
when when Jan had her funeral, it all sort of
came out that you've got a you know, you've got
a brother, and that then started me sort of thinking,

(01:46:00):
I wonder, I wonder what my son's doing there. And
within a couple of weeks that they've happened, he got
in contact. Okay, it was really quite.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
Spooky because you wouldn't even know it his name, would you.

Speaker 20 (01:46:17):
I knew what we had put on the birth certificate.
And I'm a jeweler in christ Church and the guy
that I used to buy my gold supplies off of
I dealt with him for most ever, the sort of
twenty thirty years, and it turned out that my son's

(01:46:38):
mum and dad were very close friends to this person
that I book of gold off of, and he always
knew that I was Stephen's father. And when it all
sort of came out, we met up and he said,
I always wanted to say something to you, but I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
Do you always know because you looked so alike?

Speaker 19 (01:46:59):
No, he just he.

Speaker 20 (01:47:00):
I mean Stephen's mum and dad were very open. They
always told Stephen who I was. Yes, sure, and it
was just a he got to a point when he
needed to know more.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
Really appreciate, Julian, thank you for calling. Hi, Stepan, Marcus,
good evening.

Speaker 24 (01:47:17):
Hi MICUs. How a good thanks to well, pretty good topic,
pretty emotive. Yeah, it seems to be getting people pretty
straw up. Yeah, I've got a weird adoption story. I'm
I'm adopted myself, and so was my brother. I was
adopted at birth and he was adopted at three. And
oh yeah, I met my biological mother at seven, which

(01:47:40):
was I don't know how long it took to she
wrapped my head around it. Probably not until I was
at least in my twenties. I was still probably figuring
it out.

Speaker 14 (01:47:49):
But she said abs lovely, And I've got a pretty
close relationship with with that side of my family. Never
never met my biotical dad or even seen a photo
or anything, and I've never really been that interested, and
I've always wondered why and just hearing some of your
other call saying sort of how good an experience it

(01:48:10):
was when they did track down that, you know, that
the other side of themselves. Yeah, it's kind of inspired me.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
It must be funny when you meet here at seven
and then does she have much to do with you
in your life?

Speaker 8 (01:48:22):
Or just was it?

Speaker 14 (01:48:22):
Quite occasionally once a year, I mean at that side
of the family, or she's from the Bay of Islands,
and so once a year I'd go up for a
week for a week, yeah, and spend a week up
there with a good grandma and that actually will make
a big effort come from all over Auckland or you know,

(01:48:43):
Kerry Carey, Bone of Islands by here, that's all we're
they're based up there.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
So everyone was doing their best. Everyone was doing their best.

Speaker 8 (01:48:50):
Yeah, I think I was.

Speaker 14 (01:48:51):
I was the only kid though, so you know, everyone
wants to be around kids.

Speaker 2 (01:48:55):
Good point.

Speaker 14 (01:48:57):
Yeah, but it's yeah, it's it's amazing hearing everyone's stories
and yeah, a lot of it the stress that makes
a lot of sense to me, But that I've never
even really thought about myself.

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
To me, tell me, what was the thing? Why would
you because your mother would have indicated to you if
the father wasn't. Yeah, no, I don't. I don't know
the circumstances, but but.

Speaker 14 (01:49:22):
No, yeah, no, no, I mean I'm not, I'm not.
I'm not sure. I embarrassed, but I think I've had
it pretty bloody good, like, oh, yeah, the parents are
amazing and they're definitely my parents have never got, never
had like a real mother. Tie, I'm really close with
my biological mind.

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
But does your mother have does your biological mother have
a name for your biological father?

Speaker 14 (01:49:44):
Yeah, and I've gone as far as searching it up
on a.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
Few weeks, but she won't tell.

Speaker 14 (01:49:49):
You, right, Yeah, she told me his name.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
Okay, I understand.

Speaker 14 (01:49:54):
But then but then yeah, yeah, then I found out
yeah that there was maybe a question mark over there.

Speaker 2 (01:50:02):
And okay, yeah, fair enough.

Speaker 14 (01:50:04):
I'm not I don't want to cast You know, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
Complicated, isn't it.

Speaker 12 (01:50:10):
And.

Speaker 2 (01:50:12):
As adults we can see how how these complications could arrive.

Speaker 14 (01:50:17):
Yeah, I know, it's beautifully complicated because I just think
you just it is.

Speaker 9 (01:50:22):
You get it.

Speaker 14 (01:50:23):
It's I don't know, I've always seen it. I've always
really looked at it, as.

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
You know, and still found the other But you to
remember also there's there's huge numbers of people out there
who think their fathers within their family are different people
than who their real fathers are. I mean, there's all
sorts of sleep secrets and stop straightforward believe.

Speaker 14 (01:50:45):
It or not. My brother's just going through this at
the moment. So he's adopted. He's three and a half
years older than me, and he's adopted from a Dutch couple.
We look pretty we actually looked pretty similar. People had
never packed it growing up, went to the same school
and everything. We're both blonde, and we look pretty similar
and parents are both so that didn't quite figure out

(01:51:05):
that nobody really picked it. And he's he's always had
the same sort of communication with his biological parents as
I have, you know, once a year or for a
few weeks or maybe a couple of times. And and yeah,
he just found out in the last couple of years
that his biological mother died when he was that's why

(01:51:26):
he was adopted. So yeah, when he was three or so.
And yeah, it turns out his biological father may not.

Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
Be Yeah, okay, okay, I'll live with this stiff, but
nice to hear from me. Thank you, Sarah. It's Marcus.

Speaker 5 (01:51:41):
Hello, Hi, I just want to say about my husband's
adoption junny. When his adoptive mom died, he said that
he never felt so alone because he had nobody. So
he applied for his adoption papers, found that his mother's
name she has since passed, and then got in touch

(01:52:03):
with with the obituary. Good in touch with one the
daughter in laws. Apparently it was the only person that
was told by her first husband that they had a brother.
So we met, we've met them, and that she he's
got three half brothers a mother never told anyone. And
we also met his dad and that was sort of
a little respace of about two weeks.

Speaker 14 (01:52:24):
Wow, the power of social media.

Speaker 5 (01:52:28):
It was awful working his dad and asking, you know,
if he knew a particular person in the sixties. But lovely,
really lovely.

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
So it's all worked out well, Sarah, it has, it
has and yeah, I think very lucky because some people
it never works out, no, and some people never can ever.
Some people first start like they first discussion, have tried
and failed, and that's heartbreaking as well. Well.

Speaker 5 (01:52:58):
Yeah, and I think people have to be receptive. Only
one of his brothers knew one of his half brothers
knew out you know that there was another child and
he wasn't He was only told on the day of
his month's funeral, so she keep it secret.

Speaker 2 (01:53:14):
I guess the good thing is technology is getting a
lot better now. You know that at least people now
with DNA ancestry that they can there are there are
ways for these miracles of finding each other to happen.
It's not to do with the courts or paper where
you can find it out through science and that's yeah,
that's a huge advice.

Speaker 5 (01:53:31):
Well yeah, and also in sist year you can check
you know what sort of relation. And it was you know,
talking with someone in Australia and we joined the dots
and you know, it was a situation where that you know,
his dad would have stayed with the mum, but the
mum's father said, don't you come near her. So yeah,

(01:53:54):
it just goes you know.

Speaker 2 (01:53:57):
And I'm sure there's all sorts of bad decisions and
bad parenting and stuff that comes. You know, people say
you're not going to be together or you're not going
to get you know there. Yeah, it just it would
just rig whole families.

Speaker 5 (01:54:08):
But I think I think for the adoptive person, you know,
they do there's something missing, you know, And I guess
when they meet somebody with the same genetic makeup, it's
sort of like, you know, they sort of feel like
they belong.

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
Yeah, I'm good it worked out for you too, Sarah.
Thank you so much for that call as it's Marcus.
Good evening, good evening.

Speaker 22 (01:54:32):
Just here in the top of adoption. Like to share
my story.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Thank you question, thank you for ringing.

Speaker 22 (01:54:40):
So I'm one of one of three children, all adopted.
Mum and dad got run off the road by a
drunken driver, so they adopted us three children. And yeah,
it's been interesting, Junior Tonia. I'm in my fifties now.
It's only about five years ago that actually when I
got my bursty to the get for the first time
and got to look how to look at that quite interesting.

(01:55:02):
I haven't taken any heard of from me, and both
my brother and sister have actually met their parents, but
I have taken this far.

Speaker 2 (01:55:10):
Sorry, sorry, and could you explain the situation? Who got
what happened with you?

Speaker 9 (01:55:17):
What?

Speaker 22 (01:55:17):
Our all three children adopted. Mum and dad went up
to own by bunted driver, so they mom couldn't conceive children.
So that's where she adopted us three yeah, and yeah,
And then about five years ago, in my fifties, I thought, well,
I was just as a matter of interest, I'll request
my birth certificate from General Affairs. And as part of

(01:55:38):
doing that, I had to have an interview with a
lady for an hour. And I was going, oh, humbug,
this is going to be a bit of pretty boring,
but it was actually probably one of the most interesting
hour chats i'd had. She went on to me, referred
me to a book called The Primal Wound, and it
sort of explained a lot of my behaviors growing up,
and anxiety and getting homesick when I went away on
sports trips, and why I probably didn't stay overseas for

(01:56:00):
too long. I always yearned to be close to home
sort of thing. A whole other things that have revealed themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
He look sorry to come back to ants, because I
don't Actually it's late for me and I don't so
explain to me who were the adopt how the adoption
worked for you. I'm sorry to come back and talk
to you about this.

Speaker 22 (01:56:17):
So we're all adopted, we're all adopted as young at
the sort of thing. And yeah, so a peir of
my mum and dad couldn't have children, so they adopted us,
myself and my brother and my sister.

Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
From different families.

Speaker 22 (01:56:32):
Yeah, from all different families.

Speaker 11 (01:56:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
Why and then and then and then your mum and
dad that adopted you got killed.

Speaker 22 (01:56:40):
No, no, no, they sorry, they got run off the
road by a drunken drive when they couldn't have any children.

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
I understand what. I understand what you're saying. Sorry, okay, yep,
I understand, okay.

Speaker 22 (01:56:54):
Yeah, but it was quite interesting even getting my burst
of it. So I sort of sound like a sort
of broken biscuit and a biscuit factory because I had
my was not much information, or I had just had
my mum's name, no name for my father, and sort
of you know, sort of not a great deal of detail.

Speaker 11 (01:57:10):
Really. Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:57:12):
The most interesting fact I probably got from my mum
was when I asked her one time, I said, what
do you know about them? And they didn't really used
to speak to me about it, but she said, oh,
your dad was quite a talented sportsman, and your mom
came from a samory of intellect, and that sort of
explained to our things to me because I was really
handy at sport and I could had a couple of
brain cells I could rub together, So that was quite

(01:57:32):
sort of revealing, revealing in itself.

Speaker 11 (01:57:35):
Yeah, it's been interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
So where are you now on this whole process?

Speaker 3 (01:57:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (01:57:42):
Still Yeah, I'm a pretty an emotional character, exceptionally close
to my children, not that anyone isn't, but I haven't. Actually,
I'm thinking I should actually go get in touch with
my mum and to sort of maybe a lot of
people say there's another day that goes past that they
don't think about you, and she'd probably be well, she
was on twenty one.

Speaker 11 (01:57:59):
When she had me.

Speaker 22 (01:57:59):
She'd be in the seventies now, So I need to
get my a enter g. If I'm going to do that,
she might not even still be around. Yeah, but my
brother and sister have My brother had.

Speaker 11 (01:58:09):
His child had health issues.

Speaker 22 (01:58:11):
So he needed to go and sort of find if
they think a readitary there and my sister did it
and it was pretty underwhelming for her, pretty underwhelming experience.

Speaker 2 (01:58:21):
Does it did that put you off a bit?

Speaker 22 (01:58:24):
I think I'm just quite emotional and I don't know,
I just sort of, yeah, it's all that daunting for
me in.

Speaker 2 (01:58:32):
Terms undergoing I can understand that.

Speaker 22 (01:58:35):
Yeah, and you know, what is it gonna what's it
going to do for me? What's again if I felt
and there was also a sense of loyalty to my
face because they've just been a superfici.

Speaker 2 (01:58:44):
I can imagine that because you feel so slow to
them saying well, you know, you might be my parents,
but now I'm going to go find a real parents.
And then yeah, look, you know, I think I can
understand all of it. Did they did they help you
with that ants when you went to the authorities and
they gave you that book, did they help you talk
about all of that stuff?

Speaker 22 (01:59:01):
Well, as part of its part of getting your birth certificate,
they say you've got to someone's got to call you
a counsel or counsel or a person that does those
sort of things. It wasn't a matter of just giving
a certificate. And I was saying, I was going, oh,
this will be boring, but was absolutely revealing and fascinating. Yeah,
a boot called the primal wound. Explain to all the

(01:59:21):
behaviors and adoptive children.

Speaker 11 (01:59:23):
And all that sort of thing. It's all about the.

Speaker 22 (01:59:25):
Form of what actually happens in the nine months leading.

Speaker 11 (01:59:27):
Up to your birth. And that sort of thing was going, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:59:29):
Wow, but what about what about the ancestry dot com thing?
You know with the science? Does it a lot suggesting
that because this is not my area, But is that
something that you'd thought about.

Speaker 22 (01:59:40):
I've got it on my phone and it's been sitting
there for a good few years.

Speaker 11 (01:59:44):
I've never gone any further.

Speaker 22 (01:59:45):
But you know, all your friends, everyone goes, oh, I'll
help you, I'll help you out because a.

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
Lot of them, I mean the saliva test, I.

Speaker 22 (01:59:53):
Haven't even said. I don't even know too much about that,
having to investigated it's sorry, well.

Speaker 2 (01:59:58):
What happens is your and look I'm not because it's
I'm not suggesting this. But what people do is there
something and you do a saliva test, right, and they
work out your DNA with that, and then they will
put you in touch with other people down that saliva
test that are related to you. Wow, And then more

(02:00:21):
people do the tests and you get an email that say, hey,
this person has just done a test and they are
your perhaps your cousin or perhaps your brother. So it's
as simple as that is getting emails and these people
will be that relation. So it's it's it's been around
for a while. It's quite straight forward, straightforward.

Speaker 22 (02:00:41):
About a matter of how many people have done the
test and have done it, but.

Speaker 2 (02:00:45):
More and more people do it all the time.

Speaker 11 (02:00:48):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (02:00:50):
But there's cultural problems for that too, because people believe
that the DNA is part of them. So you know,
I think probably people that are moldy and stuff like that.
It's it's there's difficulties with that, or there's there's there's
concerns with that just through this spiritual belief or that.
And also to there's the private companies that do it.

(02:01:12):
So if you get doing your saliva DNA right, then
that company owned your code or what makes you up.
In fifty years time, they could start making replicas of you.
Well that would freak me out a bit, but that's
just you.

Speaker 22 (02:01:28):
Know, that's yeah. But those an interesting alternative. A lot
of people focus on these problems that that program sorry
that they watch on TV, and they I think they
get a false impression so that everything's you know, I'm
not sure what they share. They show all the all
the stories on TV. It's pretty interesting watching them sometimes.
I've got in a bad habit of watching those for
a while and it's so it wasn't doing any good.

Speaker 2 (02:01:50):
It seems as though for people that once you have
your own children also, it kind of takes the focus
a bit away, doesn't it, Because you know, then you
you have your own family, don't you. I mean it's
a pretty tight nit.

Speaker 22 (02:02:02):
Families are like, yeah, I've got my own blood and
this is you know, and there is some about you
know blood yell. There's an intense, intense love of your children.
Not that anyone doesn't have those, of course, but you know,
when you don't have a blood mum and dad, it's
sort of just a slightly bit of different. I don't
want to sort of stress you say too much about it,
but that's my feeling anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:02:21):
Oh yeah, And look, having kids is just it's just
daft because of that, all that intensity of feeling it
brings up. It's just unbelievable. Yeah, but it's interesting. How
are you're the one of three and now it's your
time and you're the last to do it. I mean,
there's a lot of you know, because you're seeing your
your sister's example didn't work out so well, is that

(02:02:42):
what you said?

Speaker 22 (02:02:43):
Yeah, well, it was only when dad passed away a
couple of years ago. I didn't actually, none of us actually, well,
my brother had told me he had, but I never knew.
My sister had until a couple of years ago to go, oh.

Speaker 11 (02:02:51):
No, I've gone and done it. I'm going.

Speaker 22 (02:02:53):
Really thought none of us had to have done it,
so you know, it was a surprise. Yeah, but she
said it was underwhelming. And my brother's one I was
only because his boy had health health issues that you
wanted to see it.

Speaker 2 (02:03:04):
Was hereditary and did that resolve that?

Speaker 22 (02:03:08):
Uh? He had something really called west syndrome, and I
think the mother had actually passed away and he met
his half sister or something, and that was again a
pretty underwhelming experience.

Speaker 14 (02:03:18):
Hm.

Speaker 2 (02:03:20):
You know I often wonder about that. People say there's
medical advantages for that blood.

Speaker 3 (02:03:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:03:23):
Yeah, I don't know what the situation is with that
as well, because I get I guess you're going to
the hospital. Every time you go to the hospital, there's
say any family medical conditions, and then you do fit.
That kind of drums it in a bit, doesn't it.

Speaker 11 (02:03:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (02:03:35):
Yeah, yeah, But I was sort of I could never
understand why I got homesicked, you know, when I was
young going away on my rep sports trips, and everything
like that, and they said, oh, no, you've just there's
a lot of separation anxiety for children and adoption and
that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (02:03:48):
Yes, I don't know.

Speaker 11 (02:03:50):
A few things.

Speaker 2 (02:03:53):
You're smart, have just missed your family and so that's
homesickness as well.

Speaker 22 (02:03:59):
Oh yeah, but I think there's some apparently there's some
stats around that homesickness a lot more and adopt the children.
Something weirdly like that.

Speaker 2 (02:04:06):
That makes sense to me. Look, nice to talk to you.
Answer good luck with that, not saying one way or
the other. But if anything does happen, let me know.
I'd be curious to know, but nice to talk to you.
Twelve way from twelve. There we go. That's that for me.
What a week. I'll be back on Monday. There's a
strange week to it because we didn't have any Monday

(02:04:28):
and I took Thursday off. I feel like I've been
through the ringer. There's zero news anywhere in the country tonight,
because that seems to be what happens now on Friday nights.
But a sport and nothing much to report elsewhere. So

(02:04:53):
you are across everything. You know the newsport is going
to be tomorrow. One lucky person, why he will be
chicking the ticket one of those stories around it. I'm
sick of all the stories of what house you'd buy.
So if you couldn't fifty million to go and buy
some stupid forty million dollar house, why would you who
want that? God can imagine the li bel having a

(02:05:16):
massive house in this changing world. You're going to be
footloot and fancy free. Gym's on next and I'll catch
you all on Monday. Enjoy your weekend, good luck with lotto.

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