Might be in the shoes (16 July 2024)

Marcus isn't sure putting speed camera warning signs is a good move, but loves the idea of driving across South Australia.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus slush Night's podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be eighth seven seven past eight, Marcus Slush reporting
for duty, whereas the kids call me Marcus slush Nights.
How A, what's happening? I hope things are good cold
to over night too, so I didn't warn you about
black eyes. I see near shadow creeker truck of bus
went into a sideway skin, so just be aware of
that too. And it's still cold down south of you arriving.

(00:31):
I gather the weather is better up north, but look,
if there's an't happening in the next three hours four
hours about the weather, let me know what's going on too,
so we can tell the others power cuts, that sort
of thing. The overnight low and bluffers just four degrees.
Although when I went after to get the car after
work last night, it was it was a weird thing
because I didn't think to defrost the screen because it

(00:51):
didn't look that frosty, but there was a really thick,
thin front. Now that's a there was a thin frost
on the windscreen that you couldn't detect but was very
hard to remove. Had do you use the demissas and
the wipers and the squirt button. I couldn't be bother

(01:13):
the getting on the car was too cold and that
must have taken ten minutes. Okay, quite work out why
it was so solid, was like really baked on. Anyway,
that's my frost story for you. But if you've got
weather updates for the next three hours and fifty two
minutes to bring those through, hey, can I just start
talking to you quickly. I'm not quite sure where I

(01:34):
am about speed cameras. So what they are doing is
that they are putting signs on all our speed cameras
to warn people where they are.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I'm not going to get all randy about this, because
life's busy enough without getting worried about things like speed cameras.
But it's weird the way because I would have thought, right,
you'd want to find the system that's the most effective.
So if you want to tell everyone with speed cameras,

(02:08):
are they even need speed cameras in those boxes? It's weird.
I don't quite understand the psychology, but speed cameras, right,
there'll be signs outside all of them in Auckland and
Northland in a matter of weeks. It's to warn and

(02:33):
alert motorists to permanent speed cameras. Go figure, because the
only people that wouldn't be aware of permanent speed cameras
would be people there are tourists that are driving randomly
and the other ones that probably need to slow down
going in and out of town. So can someone explain

(02:54):
to it that's a good thing or a bad thing?
Apparently there's a public perception that safety cameras are in
a enforcement revenue gathering tool. Be'st the whole point of them,
isn't it to enforce speeding? And cash is the only
deterrent really that we know that we can use or demerits.

(03:19):
But I think I think all political parties are in
accordance with this anyway, So I don't know what your
actions are the attitudes aretist speed cameras. I think I
got snapped by one coming to Wamdu. One tells me
where there's one in Wamedu, which is supposed to be
the busiest, best, the most lucrative of the country. Well,

(03:41):
I was telling Vanessa about this very lucrative decamera and
I think we came up to it. Where is that
one in a Wamanu? By the way, is it in
the road heading north? Is it on the road coming
south out of town on a hill? It didn't flash?
But what are people's opinions about? Because I always thought
the whole key to them was the fact you didn't
know where they were. I mean, if that's the case,

(04:05):
why do we bother have them? Why the ones in
the vans? You might want to talk to me about that. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty Teddy and ninety two nine two text.
I don't know if it's the right thing to do
or not. I just don't know how heated people are
about this. So give me a call about this. We
haven't done a good law and order on the road

(04:26):
speed camera thing for a while. In fact, I don't
even think we've got any permit runs in Southland to
my knowledge, there's any permit runs. I don't know there
know if it's any permanent runs. No targo. But get
in touch. You've got things, say they've got a bad
What should we think about that is a good idea

(04:46):
to get rid of? This is the good idea to
put the signs up? Or a bad idea? I don't
know what to think about this one. I'm not quite
sure we're supposed to go with your theory around this,
get in touch oh eight hundred and eighty Teddy and
nine two nine to two de text speed cameras. You
kind of imagine that technology would have moved on slightly

(05:07):
by now. I don't know how. I know in Perth
they had like they had stretches of road. If your
average was too high across the distance of it, you
get a ticket. And I thought they were bringing that
to New Zealand. But I'm not entirely sure if that's
happened yet. Have we got any of those speed cameras
over the whole distance of a road. I do remember

(05:29):
talking about it on the radio. I just don't remember
when they put into place yet, So you might want
to mention that too. But speed cameras what I want
to talk about tonight. It's not going to be all night.
I also want to talk about Mount Monganui because in
Mount Monganui, the locals they don't want to go high rise.
The locals said, I don't want to go high rise
because that would destroy the nature of the town. But

(05:56):
you're ask anyone in New Zealand what the nature of
Mount Monganui is, and everyone will say, well, it's like
our Wai Kaki or our Gold Coast. You want the
high rise, it's exactly what they should be doing. Locals
are disappointed the iconic stats. The beach Sabba wasn't fiercely
protected and you can go six stories high. I think

(06:19):
probably the trouble with a Mount Monganuan going hi is
that no one can get anywhere because the roads are
all bumper a bumper. That would be my take on
that one. Fourteen plus eight. My name is Market's welcome.
If you've got breaking news, let us know what that is.
But speed cameras, I kind of you don't even know
what the will of the crowd's going to say about those.
The people want them signposted or not. I kind of

(06:41):
thought probably if people didn't know where they were their
driver but slower the whole time, that would be my psychology,
my psychology. If they sign posted they won't work. Well,
I guess they will work, but just in those spots
there won't be a general reduction of speed, which I
think is the whole point. Oh yes, I think Jack

(07:02):
Taymee was speaking to Simeon about that this afternoon. So
get in touch here, there must be away. Fourteen past
eight eight hundred and eighty teenty. My name is Marcus
Hitdle twelve. Anything else you want to check it? There
we go, we're away. Anything else you want to check
into the mix? Get in touch with those also nine
text speed cameras. I'm sure everyone's got opinion about them

(07:25):
except me. I don't really care what I keep. I
don't really know which way you're supposed to get because
the people only slow down for the areas where they
think speed cameras are with the theory is to slode
on everywhere because money's a decurrent anyway, Graham, it's Marcus.
Good evening going to be How are you good? Thank you, Graham.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
You'll be pleased to know that it's power on and
look on tonight. Well, yeah, magas speed cameras. So the
signs are already out the speed cameras or what they're
looking still is and greater and before a lot of
speed camera section signed up already that to say speed
camera head or speed camera area or so you're allusive
to it now anyway, and the second party of your

(08:13):
question in terms of those cameras where you have one
at one end of a of a section of road
and another one and another. Yeah, they are out and
about now. I think one of the Waterview tunnel and Orphans.
So when you're into the tunnel, it calculates your average
speed through the trace. And I only noticed because it's
crossing a fricking auctune and you don't think about it

(08:36):
until it ticket a rise in the marl and calculates
average speed whatever that is through the tunnel. And that's
what you get to hit it on. But they're putting
a lot more of those. It was in the news recently.
Actually we're they're putting a lot more of those across
key roads throughout many orphans and orphans and wie out open.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I reckon the I reckon that's a mistake. Putting the
signs about where the speed cameras are.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Well, it's odd, isn't it. I agree with you. I
think it's god I mean, well White.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Put it there, and yeah, it's counter it's counterintuitive because
the speed cameras are are to tell people if they're
not going that if they're going above the speed limit,
they will get a ticket, and the cameras could be anywhere.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
So yeah, that would argue the fact though that the reason,
that's what the signs up is to slow you down
as a coparent. In that case, why not just want
to sign up on no camera exactly.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Don't think people can. I don't think I don't think
people get it. And I mean, if there's revenue that,
I mean, that's just a sort of said, a revenue collecting.
I don't know that that's necessarily true. I think it
probably costs them all to get the money with people
having just standing around bailiffs and stuff. But you know,
I'll give them that in case that's what they think.
But it just sounds a bit Yeah, okay, no, I
appreciate that, Graham, thank you. Yeah, I reckon it's a

(09:51):
stupid idea telling people where they are. And I'm someone
that said I'm not I'm not. I'm not someone that's
a perfect driver that's never had a speed camera ticket.
So I'm not someone that's you know, I'm not a
terrible driver. I'm not the world's greatest driver either. I'm

(10:11):
not Sydney Safety. But you know, I respect you know,
you know how it does. Marcus, Welcome hy.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
Here, Marcus. Good thing you speak cameras. I've got my
wife is that we get here in South she actually
gets tickets, speeding tickets. I don't know why. All of
a sudden, your team behind you got police cards clicking
slides behind you, and my wife's going to be inhabit
of the speeding. I don't know why she does that

(10:41):
but doesn't mean to, but she does. On a look
at the speed. It doesn't mean to No, I don't
pisure really me many means to speed a lot.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
No, you can't say don't mean you. I mean one
of the responsiblitary driving a car, is it hearing to
the speed limit?

Speaker 6 (10:58):
Yeah? I know, I take it over. Every time she
go south to see a boy and a farm, she
us a play ticket, so I sort of I can't
work it out in the here. The worst one as
Tomoka is we speak her here a bridge at Tomoka
and South. That's the worst place for picking up tickets.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
What are you driving? Sorry? Why don't you drive?

Speaker 6 (11:27):
Because the wife she likes driving.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Clearly you should be driving. You should be driving.

Speaker 6 (11:34):
I know that she doesn't. She don't let me drive.
She likes driving herself. It's okay, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
What's the car she got?

Speaker 6 (11:44):
So now she's all right, she's she's a real good driver.

Speaker 7 (11:50):
But you never drive.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
You never drive.

Speaker 6 (11:53):
I do drive, Yes I do. But even my wife
likes driving when we go away. And let's yeah, but
it's all good. And I'd just like to say hello
over of my grandson. Joseph. Thinks you don't shout out yeah, Joseph,
your grandson.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Okay, shout out to you, Joseph.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
Joseph, he listens to you.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
How old is he?

Speaker 6 (12:18):
He's off the high Schoolichia.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
He's not driving because I worried about him on the
road too with your wife. If he's got those genes,
Thank you, ed. Shout out to Joseph. Shout out to myself.
I hope that was a way guy to the shout
out to himself. That what a lovely thing to do.
Shout out to myself. I don't reckon there's any point
in that. With speed cameras, I reckon they've given up.
I kind of like the whole mentality that people out
there watching you with cameras didn't know where they were

(12:41):
kind of kept you honest. But now telling you where
they are. It's like playing hide and seek. If there's
designated hiding places, you can hide here here or hear
thoughts about that, please see this person doesn't understand it.
It says, the point is to get people to slow down,
so it will work without deceptive charging. The point is
not about money, but only get them to slow down

(13:04):
at those one hundred and fifty places where there are
speed cameras, and there's a million other places where there's
no speed cameras, where people like the last guys, missus
will be heavy on the foot. Marcus totally understand the
wife that unintentionally speeds. I don't drive because I can't
not rush. Goodness, You want to save lives or get money? Warning,

(13:26):
slow people down? No point in getting a ticket a
week after killing a kid? Has it? What I say?
In that add Dan? No, it was the same day.
What's the guy's name? It was the same day, David.
It was the same day, David two thousand and nine
for that one was the same day, David. Yeah, he's

(13:49):
killed someone. Oh, Kevin killed someone twenty one past day.
It's all about to speak. Yeah, I think that's crazy.
Is want to be random and they've got to get
different kind of vans. Those throwers in those vans, you
make a hand signal when we go past.

Speaker 8 (14:05):
You do that.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
My husband would have a breakdown. If I insisted on
driving when we go away, he gets really anxious. I'm
an unintentional speeder as well, Marcus. The cameras are very expensive,
so only a few will actually have cameras. The rest
will just be empty fifty dollars boxes imitating that camera.
So putting signs up will slow cars down. Cheap solution
to getting speeds down just saying Colin, carry on, Colin.

(14:31):
Quite a discussion on about what the year there. It's
the same day David ad came out, which I don't
know the answer to that. Everyone knows that categorically. Someone
said the nineties, someone said the nearly two thousandths. Sort
to find out where that is. If you can actually
tell me some information about that, let me know eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty get in touch. I don't

(14:51):
know what to google for that. There's a few different
things to allude to it, but nothing kind of convincing.
Get in touch. By name's Marcus Hddle twelve unintentional speeders.
For goodness sake, they have a license and with that
comes responsibility. Go bob smack, Marcus. What about a sign
that says warning Canada geese head exactly, Marcus. Just love

(15:14):
Channel three news heaps better than Channel one. Rose way
earlier than that mid nineties, same day, David Marcus. By
putting speed camera signs up, drivers slow down for all
of them. But I'll say thirty speed camera signs, only
ten might be live. Is that confirmed, Dave Dan? Okay,

(15:36):
it's ninety ninety five, So all you people are right.
They should bring that back. They should remake it with
some of the Shortland streeters. Edward Marcus welcome.

Speaker 9 (15:47):
Yes, hello, just talking about speed cameras. Yeah, in Australia,
the police actually tell you where the speed cameras are
so you can slow down.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Makes no sense, Yeah, no, because look, don't we have
a speed isn't the whole point to have a speed
limit and then to enforce that.

Speaker 9 (16:14):
Yes, but I said it was actually a radio station
that used to tell people where the speed cameras are
so they'd slow down and those areas.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, which radio station?

Speaker 10 (16:29):
Which?

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Which radio station? Troubles j I He was, oh, yeah,
trouble j.

Speaker 9 (16:37):
Yeah, the Sydney Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
I'm not opposed to telling people, but I just can't
work out the point of why they were just put
signists to where.

Speaker 11 (16:43):
They are yes.

Speaker 9 (16:47):
Well, apparently it's the police are trying to get people
to slow down in those areas.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Okay, but slow down everywhere? Is that the whole point?
That what already here to the speed limit?

Speaker 9 (17:00):
Well, that's like I said, I'm looking in Sydney, Australia,
and I used to listen to the radio station needs
to tell you where the cameras are so you slow
down in those areas.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
I might't be missing something. I think it's just the
trying to government's trying to win favor of the people
by not looking like they're giving out fines. But finds
are the great deterrent. I've had driving fines. I've only
been too happy to pay them because they've always been
a fair cop. And I adjust my driving because of it.

(17:33):
Hang on, gonna be a bit cautious here, I get
stung with demerits. You see. The people to get are
the tourists. Talk about tourists, they are the driving unbelievably
slowly or unbelievably quickly. Oh, by the way, do anyone
read that book about Vance, Jaddy Vance, The Hilbury Eulogy,

(17:55):
Hillberly Elegy. I didn't like it. It was a book
that was quite raved about at the time. I found
it hard to read and not that interesting. This is
the guy that are going to be Trump's VP. They
made into a movie as well. But you might want
to say something about Elberly Elegy. I don't even know
what the word elergy means. I don't think it's quite

(18:16):
close to eulogy.

Speaker 8 (18:21):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
He's young, he's thirty seven or thirty nine or something,
and allergy is a poem or a serious reflection. Mm hmmmmmm.
I've learned something. You've learned something. And where are those
speed cameras, because I guess I'll come on Google Maps
and everything now point to point speed cameras. That's the

(18:43):
what the new ones are, point to points. It was
the same day, David, do do Do Do Do Do
Do Do Do Do Do Do Do. What are those
crosses on the road they've gone, haven't they remember all
those that were very depressing showed with people died. Although
I was reading that some person thought that's where people
had died in the construction of the roads, which I

(19:03):
thought was quite cute. I thought all those crosses were
people that died making the road. It's when you had
away from nine John ats Marcus good evening.

Speaker 12 (19:15):
HOI Marcusalls are going good?

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Thank you John.

Speaker 12 (19:19):
Just on speed cameras, I might have missed someone talking
about it before, but to me it seems in risky
areas like a blind corner where they definitely definitely want
people going slowly, they should warn the drivers and then
have other speed cameras peppered throughout the country to enforcement
over all speed limits. So I think you really need both.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
So you need you need random and fixed and the
fixed ones are at problematic spots. So rather than spending
a fortune making the road safer, you just check a
box up and warn people where it is.

Speaker 12 (19:51):
Yeah, yeah, or just like really to make sure that
people who aren't familiar with an area where there's a
particularly high accident corner or something. It's no good if
they get a ticket the speeding through it. You want
them to be going slowly the first time they go
through it and every time.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
But obviously there will be a speed limit on that section.
They should just obey that speed limit, shouldn't they.

Speaker 12 (20:18):
Yeah, but people aren't going to stay under one hundred
from a whole drive from the need into christ Church.
Like in general, the population tends to break the limit
of fear bit, but you want.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
To make sure not So it's on a hundred k
section of road, they check a speed camerator, but that
probably should not be one hundred ks rather than actually
make it less.

Speaker 12 (20:43):
Well, yes, or if it's eighty k or whatever, it's
more so that, yeah, it might be safe to do
the corner at one hundred or relatively safe compared to
going one hundred and twenty. Whereas if you're on a long, straight,
flat road, a lot of people will be going one
hundred and twenty, but if you warn them that there's

(21:05):
a camera ahead, they will slow down and then take
this dangerous corner safely.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, okay, I think they probably shouldn't be making dangerous corners,
so there should be speed restrictions on dangerous corners. That
would be my take, Marcus. They need signs to make
point to point legal, I would say, Dave. Sometimes in
New South Wales they put some speed cameras on dangerous corners. Also,
if you're caught by speed camera News South Wales, a
driver must be nominated. It's never just a find, so
someone always loses points. Moreover, they have double demerit points

(21:33):
in New South Wales on long weekends. All this is
to say, we get it pretty easy here in us
in and we don't need signs. Just follow the speed
them at full stop. Regards Graham, I'm inclined to agree
you don't need a reward for obeying the speed, as
it's the law. Cheers Michelle Marcus. Last night was about
bread being stored. What about a tray of eggs, even

(21:57):
though walks in the super market stops at the eggs.
On Trey's posts, the academic shortage Victoria's speed cameras finds
Ozzie two forty up to ten K's ten to twenty
case three sixty. I read hilbery Elogy in twenty sixteen.
I joined a little lot about growing up in extreme
poverty in the Appalachian Mountains. Didn't like the movie. Though

(22:18):
historically this is all wrong with the speed cameras. I'm
becoming more opinionated about this. Some woman drive with lead
feet either all or nothing. It might be the shoes. Marcus.
I've held my license fifty five years. I've driven all
of youse in Australia. I've driven into state in thirty
eight states of the USA. I have never had any
sort of traffic infringement or extant Yet that's me get

(22:43):
in touch. So what do you think. I think they've
got this one wrong. I'm not going to start a
march and picketing. You know these drivers are drive bear.
Oh it's revenue collecting. Well, no, it's not revenue collecting.
It's just that. Actually, what else? How else will they
punish people? Apart from cash? The most effective way to

(23:05):
make check change is through the wallet. That's why there's
tex on smokes and alcohol. Marcus. If there's a sign
warning of a camera or people test if it's actually working,
the logic of warning is lost on me. Sorry cheers
Nick and Nelson. That's the thing. The logic to me
is a bit. I don't get it. I don't get it.
I think they've given into a baying, misinformed group. That

(23:28):
wouldn't be the first time. Graham with an e at
Oh Graham, Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 13 (23:33):
Hey, you are trying about the old speed cameras, and
it's as having a radar of petre in your car.
But when it's always during your s all the time,
it makes you go flaw only you're just a Roman
speed right, But having a speed having the radar in
your car will make your try it flaw because you're weel.

Speaker 14 (23:53):
Of it all the time.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Hang on to those radars still work, yeah, really yeah,
but you don't get live you don't. You just get cameras.
You don't get live smoke because they still have the
raygun on you, do they?

Speaker 13 (24:09):
Yeah, but popping up if you crook on your crook
on the branch, it.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Works so so the speed cameras. The speed camera will trigger.
Your radar detector will at the fixed one on the
lamp post.

Speaker 13 (24:21):
I don't know about that, but I if you've got
to if you're seeing those shines around all the time,
and try to reminder to go shower. And if you've
got fact having a radar detector in your car, if
you've got a radar iticctor in your car, you generally
drive slower because you're.

Speaker 11 (24:39):
Aware of it.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
No, people with radars in their car drive like a
better of hell until the radar goes off. Then they slow.
I've been with those people.

Speaker 13 (24:48):
Well, but it's all show. It's all shown to tear
it to speed.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Them cheapness, Not really, is it?

Speaker 13 (24:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:57):
I know, Oh no, I think people's I think people's
mentality with those are crazy. They just see something, they
go slowly, normally it's a gas station. Then when they're
out of there, they just go like a bet out
of hell.

Speaker 13 (25:11):
You know how people drive exactly.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Don't say sorry to me, say sorry to his kids
nineteen to nine. Back at you, what about the I reckon?
People are mentor with it? Marcus, You're right, it's hard
to go slower than one forty k's and eight inch stilettos.
Must be a hard conversation with the wife about excessive driving,
because a lot of people seed to be living in
terror of that. Good evening, John, it's Marcus, welcome us,

(25:38):
is it you, John?

Speaker 15 (25:39):
Yes, it is. I'm interested in the International World Choir
competition that's going on in Auckland at the moment, and
I've heard nothing about it other than an introduction that
it was about to happen. There seems to be nothing

(26:02):
on the television about it. I'm just wondering is it
being channel vise for a later day tour. Be interested
to know if anybody.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
John, where did you expect to see something about it?
What sort of show?

Speaker 15 (26:17):
Well I thought it?

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Do you think you seven Sharp or three News or
Jet Tame or where do you think it would have
been whether that.

Speaker 15 (26:27):
But on the Arts channel? Perhaps is an arts channel?
Is there?

Speaker 2 (26:32):
That's like a pay extra one for a.

Speaker 15 (26:35):
Yeah, you do Channel twenty on my remote, a job.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
I've even know. I've never known anyone that would get
the Arts channel.

Speaker 15 (26:44):
Oh it's brilliant, was it brilliant? If you want classical music,
you want good documentaries, No, far superior to anything else. Really,
very little rubbish on it. Yes, I don't want to
sound a snob, but it's it takes one's interdecked up

(27:08):
and not a notch or two.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, what would be on it tonight?

Speaker 15 (27:17):
I know Wednesday Night is basically music. You'll get concerts
from Europe and some of the best auditoriums, and you'll
get opera. Yeah, no, it's worth a look Marcus. Okay.
But in the meantime, if there's anybody out there that

(27:39):
knows there.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
I think.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
I think choir is a quite niche. I don't think
there's a big crossover with QUI. I mean, I know
people love a choir, but I don't know if it's
a big Yeah, I don't know what they did sing
the anthem at the Rugby Did you see that? Yes,
beautifully that it was a bit kind of ho hum.

Speaker 15 (27:59):
Oh no, no, no, at last something done with a
bit of taste.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
You are as now, don't you?

Speaker 15 (28:10):
Yeah? Possibly wonder what the cure finn haven't got long
cure for it? Oh no, I don't know. God, I'm
eighty two. I don't mind. Sort of trying to raise
the bar A bit.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
To look was on the arch channel what channel say,
channel twenty twenty Bellow Mania, the Hollow Crown, the Man
and the Beauty. Oh yeah, nothing from the choirs.

Speaker 15 (28:40):
No, no, but I just thought somebody out there might
know something.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I know people to buy tickets to go out there.
If you should have gone up for John Doe, you're
still travel Ah.

Speaker 15 (28:53):
I've got a car, Marcus. It goes from the hospital
to home. It goes from the supermarket to home. I
get four months pet four months driving out of a
full tanker petrol.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
You should get you should get a bit. Yeah, swift,
Taylor Swift, I've heard about those. Why don't you fly
up to Walkrom for the choir? You should have done that.

Speaker 15 (29:21):
I haven't got the energy anymore.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Okay, eight away from night is Steve Marcus.

Speaker 16 (29:27):
Welcome, good evening, Marcus. I don't normally listen to choir.
You're right about that. It's a bit of a niche market,
all right.

Speaker 11 (29:35):
But I'll tell you what.

Speaker 16 (29:38):
I on Facebook. It came up credit the Boys Choir,
and I don't know how to pronounce it. It's d
A g I L E l I s Yeah, and
it's the dagger Leilas Boys Choir. And they've got a
song there and it's the Lion Sleeps Tonight, you know

(29:58):
the old classic.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Oh they won the way?

Speaker 16 (30:01):
Yeah, And I'll tell you what it's awesome play to
play it o.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
I know a bit about the old background of the
old Wimbaway Steve, thank you for that. And by the way,
for Steve. For John, it has been broadcast. There is
a YouTube channel. You got your pen and paper right there, John,
you'd be a fountain. It will be a quill for you.
I suppose you nob into culture. Is the YouTube channel
I n t e R k U l t u

(30:29):
R or World Choir Games Channel. Bang it into your
Google or you wouldnt have Google, would you? Anyway? It's
called World Choir Games Channel. So it's on YouTube. Great question,
so of course it'll be on YouTube. Why wouldn't it
be the everything will be there A Wimba way, a

(30:52):
Womba way, A Wimba way. A very good podcast about
the Wimbaway song and where it came from, how no
one got paid. I mean, I don't I don't want
to demean or little choirs. I mean a great choir
could be a great thing, but it's not everyone's cap
of tea, is it? Anyway? So there you go. It's
on the YouTube. You'd go on to YouTube into culture

(31:12):
or World Choir Games. Our grig ats Marcus. Welcome and
good evening to you.

Speaker 17 (31:19):
Yeah, thanks Michus. Yeah, I just want to talk about
the old speed cameras and the actual dropping of the
speed limits. I've lived in the same house over thirty years,
and the speed limits around us have been dropped, some
of them by twenty k's and some by more than that,

(31:39):
from eighty down to fifty. And the speed cameras. I
don't believe there's enough speed limit signs so you actually
know what the speed limit is where the speed camera is.
Where we live, well, between us and Wayuku, there's a
speed camera and that ten k stretch of road, the

(32:01):
speed limit would change six times on that piece of
road and you have to concentrate so hard to actually
know what the speed limit is where you are, and
there's a bloody speed camera there, so it's it is
just revenue gathering. As far as I'm.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Concerned around schools as well.

Speaker 17 (32:22):
Yep, there's there's a stereoys.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I think. I mean, I think that I can speak
very passionately about the speeds children get hit and whether
they survive or whether they are killed. I've heard the
police present about that, about the speed limits and schools,
and it's evident based and it's they're pretty convincing with it,
and most people want it too. But yeah, let's talking
about the speed cameras and signs. I know there's a
whole other topic about the lower and there's people that

(32:46):
they want to be able to drive fast because people
overrate their abilities, and like, yeah, I just don't. I
just think revenue collecting is kind of an easy fix
and I don't think it's the reality. Marcus. I thought
the idea behind speed cameras was to catch motorists driving
outside of the speed limit. The idea of signage make
some mockery out of them. Drivers will slow down when

(33:09):
approaching the camera, then speed off. The money that's been
spent would be better given to our police. Some with you,
Marcus Leslie. I just wonder if there's the same analogy
with drink driving, because the speeders will always be dangerous.
Don't know what the analogy is there, Marcus. The sky
towers lit up blue for the previous six days for

(33:30):
the World Choir Games. Should singing be a competition? Most
modern cars have an anti ticketing button. It's called cruise control,
especially in the South Island with its long, empty straight
set to one hundred k and let the speed cameras
get those who overtake you, Marcus, and the UK advertised
speed cameras. So as it's not classed as entrapment, how

(33:51):
could it be entrapment, Marcus. World Choir Games thirteen thousand
competitors from thirty different countries, one hundred coaches daily, delivering
around sixty thousand midnight during competition. But and Dan's had
a look on the YouTube channels, there's not that much there.

(34:14):
They should have got He's right, John, they should be covering.
I don't know what channel, or maybe the arts channel,
but look, they wouldn't do much local stuff. I don't
think good evening. Justin, it's Marcus.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Welcome Fidy, Marcus Hi, justin, Yeah, I just phonding about
I noticed some new signs going up down the road
for the local speed camera. But it doesn't say speed
camera head, that says.

Speaker 18 (34:43):
Safety camera.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Okay, wonder what are you in the north?

Speaker 17 (34:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (34:52):
Yeah, and the speed cameras are down so it is
a little bit rural. But yeah, they say safety cameras ahead.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
I can't quite work out why they'd say that. Yeah, yeah, same,
it says it says from an article I'm seeing reading
just a n z TA is calling them safety cabinet
at safety cameras. Yeah, in a cabinet ordered attempt to
shift the public away from perceptions at safety cameras are

(35:23):
an enforcement revenue gathering tool. So that's so strange if
they have to do them to that.

Speaker 18 (35:33):
Do they have to advertise for the little vans that
as well? No, only the fixt one jee.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
I can't work out if they're so obsessed with the
revenue collecting, because that's become a mantra for people that
want to oppose everything. Why don't they just chuck them
in and give you demerits from speed cameras you've got
to designate who your driver is and they chop some
of your you know, give you twenty demerits. That would work,
wouldn't it.

Speaker 18 (35:58):
Yeah, well everyone would just debate it wasn't there wouldn't they.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Blame the wife. If you're on your Thank you justin Craig.

Speaker 19 (36:07):
Good evening, Yeah, good evening. How's the game?

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Good?

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Thank you, Craig.

Speaker 19 (36:11):
Really enjoying the conversation. It's quite interesting. My view is,
why do we put speed camera signs up for the
speed cameras, because my viewers, they're there to catch speeding
drivers they wipe with a sign up because they're just
going to slow down with speed cameras and speed up again.
On the other side of it, then you think, well,
if they're saying that's the revenue they are gathering exercise,

(36:32):
then putting signs up means it's going to stop them
from getting so much revenue coming in anyway.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
They're actually making less money because of it. Yeah, that
starts pointless.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (36:41):
My view is it's like I work for coming in
install security cameras and a kind of side note, and
we always find that the workers are complain about security
cameras are are always the one that are doing things underhanded,
whereas people doing everything right in the company don't really care.
My view is kind of like the same with the
speed cameras. If you're driving to the conditions and driving
to the speed, then you should be no reason why

(37:02):
you ever get picked up by speed camera. And if
the ones that are speeding don't know where the cameras
are and they get to mess the fine a couple
of times on stretch of road but they don't know
where it was, maybe they'll drive slower and entice the
road rather than go, oh, I can speed them this
part and then that part they're going to slow down,
or if they know where all the speech cameras are
and that like even on your app and your phone

(37:22):
ite as you with speaking bras are, and there's even
apps that reach out to your route to avoid speak cameras.
So it's yeah, I don't understand the whole.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
So if they do, if they don't know where they are,
they'll become overall bitter and safer drivers.

Speaker 19 (37:36):
Yeah, well, I mean you can have they're saying that
they're going to put them in black spots where you've
put signs up saying this is a dangerous error they
have anyway, But having a speak camera there, it's I
suppose you're going to get a capture of the cow
speeding before it has an accident. But it just seems
a lot of money spending on useless stuff where they
should be spending more money on get a signage for

(38:00):
speeds through different parts of the road, and maybe they should,
maybe they should put signs up where you get insections
telling people to remember to use your indicators because not
a lot of people use those either.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Well it's become optional.

Speaker 20 (38:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (38:15):
Well I've always wonder we can get a cheaper price
on the char if you don't have indicators on the vehicle.
But yeah, it just seems a little bit crazy in that.
Like over season Australia, the speak camera's over there. If
you a lot of them give you demerit points as
well if you get called on speak camera. And there's
a story a few years ago about this lady who's
taking the kids to school and she was speeding. She

(38:37):
got pinged them the way to school, pinged on the
way home, then pinged on the way back to school,
and pinged on the way home. You can picking the
kids up, So it's four times one day and she
lost the license because over themerit points good. So it's
just crazy. But I mean, I always believe you've drive
the conditions and respect the row conditions and drive the
word over speed they say it should be on, then
there should be no reason for speak cameras. Really, it's

(38:58):
just it seems and people want signs there so that
they don't get called out. But it just means it's
just going to move the speeding proce from further down
the road and have an excellent further down the road.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
I just don't think. I just don't think the science
of the event. I mean, I know the government is
not adhering to evidence because of the three headed beast,
but they're not adhering to evidence. They're just doing what
they think will get them vote. Or what some of
their coalition partners have thought was, you know some of
the stuff that people, oh, revenue collecting and some of
those catch cries they're trying to trying to stop. But

(39:31):
you know, it doesn't make sense to me. But we'll
see how guys, and maybe maybe the road time might
go up, maybe it might not. I guess at the
end of the year, we'll see about that won't.

Speaker 19 (39:39):
We It'll be interesting to see a survey down a
year or so it's down track, to see what she
makes any difference a lot, and then figure, oh, it
makes no difference. Then that maybe they should stop spinning
the money on it. I don't know any interesting conversation.
I'll leave you to really thank.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
You, Craig. Nice to hear from you. I love a text,
A passive aggressive text. It says most modern cars have
an anty ticketing button. It's called cruise control, Marcus. Speed
camera signs only work well if they're there were lots
of them everywhere. The slower cameras would then bet the
slower traffic would then backlog. Personally, I find the bus
lane causing cars to be channel under one lane performs

(40:15):
this function for much of the day and evening already.
Cheers Owen and Richard. AT's Marcus, welcome in good.

Speaker 21 (40:21):
Evening, Good evening, Marcus. I was captured by your little
reference to women away the song. Yes, I suspect like me,
you're sort of fascinated and somewhat said, and by the
story behind it.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yes, did they get I think they got money in
the end? Did they hoist? Family? Got money?

Speaker 22 (40:40):
Is that right, honestly, but it made me think of
it trying to think of another song that was like
that in a lot of ways, not so much about
what you're talking about the money side of it, but
just a song that's got a sort of a hock
one word hop in a wim away. And that's the song.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yeah, No, I haven't heard the story, but I think
i'm going to.

Speaker 22 (41:07):
Yeah, good, Yeah, it's bloody fascinating. Yeah, a similar sort
of thing. Not the song going back to wim Away.
The song that really gets my spine team thing is
the Paul Simon song with Lady Smith Black Men Baza
on Graceland album. You know, yep, I think they got

(41:29):
paid okay, but it's just that that.

Speaker 17 (41:32):
I think it was.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
It was controversial, was it because of the there's a
there's a boycott on about to they forgot the time?
And I think, great, Yeah, I think that wasn't without difficulties. Yes, yes,
but what's the story with Louis Louis Louis?

Speaker 22 (41:50):
I did well remembering the song. I'm not going to
tell you I can remember the stories that I think
it just you know, it's really fascinating. You know, it's
one of those songs that paying for Nothing and just
you know, through through people getting hold of it and
playing around with it, and suddenly it became, you know,
sort of a cult songs.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
It's almost who was the first person to sing it?

Speaker 13 (42:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 22 (42:18):
Okay, I'm seventy five years old, macause I can't remember. Hell,
that's not that old.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
That's not that old. I mean Trump and Trump and
Biden are older than you.

Speaker 22 (42:28):
Yeah, I know, I know. I mean I don't feel
older in a lot of ways, but I certainly have
difficulty remembering a lot of details of things that you know,
I found fascinating at the time and then can't remember
why I find fascinating.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Well, maybe someone might tell us about Louis Louis, because
I don't know too much about it.

Speaker 22 (42:48):
Yeah, it'd be quite a good subject for nights, you
know hops, you know, songs with hot Tie Son sort of.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
And of course the Woman Way songs called the line
sleeps Tonight, isn't it?

Speaker 22 (43:01):
Yes, except it's not.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
We he he he he he were one way. Yeah,
that's right. There's long podcasts about it. Right, So, originally
a Zulu song, but the total I think all sorts
of people kind of got involved in, did it, Richard?
But thank you, no doubt they'll be doing that at
the at the choir thing. Thanks for that, Richard. They

(43:25):
are named safety cameras as they're capable of defecting more offenses,
detecting more offenses than speed. Well that's not according to
Simeon Brown. What he said is they're changing the name
of them because and I'll bring up the article ensta
Is called them safety cameras and a cabinet ordered to
attempt to shift the public away from perceptions that safety

(43:47):
cameras are a revenue gathering tool. So it's all about spin.
But don't try and make their effort detecting other crimes
because I think they can not to my knowledge. Twenty
three past nine. If you want to be a part
of it, Marcus till midnight here to the end and

(44:11):
text all about the speed cameras, because what they're doing
is they're going to put signs of where they all are,
which is not evident space. It's just because they freaked
out the people thinking they're grabbing money and free of police.
Three of police are going to Australia to Queensland.

Speaker 7 (44:27):
It's not good, is it?

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Pay some of them. Hello markets, market's welcome, Yes.

Speaker 11 (44:37):
Sir, good easing Lea Marcus even Yeah, speed restrictions and
speed cameras. They're going to talk about speed restrictions just
a little bit earlier on as a chap complaining about
too many speed restrictions.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
On the road of his driving.

Speaker 11 (45:01):
Well, when I was learning to drive trains, we had
certain sections of the track where had you hit out.

Speaker 13 (45:12):
And then there was.

Speaker 11 (45:14):
The twenty k speed restriction and then you finished that
one or the next one would be forty k speed restriction,
and sometimes speed restrictions sort of tenure to overlap into
each other. Now we had a lookout for signals level crossings,

(45:37):
and the behavior of motors on level crossings could leave
a lot to be desired. And because you've got the
the loco, which was the wholly anything between five hundred
and one thousand tons, and they don't stop too readily,

(45:58):
so you've you've sort of got to be, you know,
looking ahead and figuring out, well, there's that next speed restriction,
but to produce speed before before get to it, and
if you were speeding, trade control. But notice that you've
got to hear this crossing place to leave it too early.

(46:22):
I got to make a note of that. But they
once so they got to the to its terminating depot.
The staff would throw out the speed recorder to see
what a system we were speeding. The the chap noticed

(46:46):
the road form of would come along and have a
talk to you.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
No, I take everything he's saying in Mark, so calling
the other guy lazy driver? Really, aren't you.

Speaker 11 (46:56):
I don't quite catch them, but I think they assume
of these can't truck drivers, So I don't know what
they're complaining about.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
No, No, it's a very good point marketing the dead
man break as well. Thank you and thank you for
your service as a locomotive driver engineer. It's good to
hear from you. Nice stuff.

Speaker 13 (47:12):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Twenty seven past nine, nine twenty seven Marcus till twelve Louis, Louis.
I'm looking for someone to give me the figure that song,
the story, but the backstory and the front story. Nine
twenty seven Marcus till midnight speed cameras. Why would you
tell people where they are? And you're rather serious about

(47:36):
people dying on the road, and you're not serious about
people dying on the road dB Marcus, welcome, good evening.

Speaker 17 (47:42):
Good eving. You've noticed on the back of a number
of even cars. It's more certainly trucks and buses GPS monitored,
and these vehicles who now have units that report their
actual speed to the mothership in real time. So you

(48:05):
take your card buses, the bus can bring up a
screen and see where the bus is in real time
and what speed is doing. But the bus itself also
monitors you so that if you're exceeding the current speed
by more than two kilometers now, it beeps it you

(48:26):
and it gives you thirty seconds to get back under
the speed I don't think. I think I think it
might be ten seconds to get down under the speed limit.
Otherwise it reports you to the mothership. So places like
Hawk's Bay they have a good driving system where if
you haven't been reported for speeding for for the month,

(48:49):
you get a cash bonus. I think, I wonder.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
I think in the States they've taken that further, and
I think, and oh, you know what I'm going.

Speaker 17 (49:01):
To say, Yeah, no, I don't care because something else
is going to add to this.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
I think in the States they've taken it further, and
it affects your insurance premiums and your claims that you can.
They can deny your claims if you've seen that you've
been triggered over certain speeds. And it's quite controversial, and
I can imagine it would be because there's been some
paperwork and stuff like that.

Speaker 17 (49:29):
You'd had that retired locomotive engineer on saying that you know,
train control could ping them for being too quick within
a section, and then you'd have a quiet chat with
the road forman will in New Zealand. Now the trains
will report a little bit better than that. They not
only report their location and speed, the boss can log

(49:50):
in and see what not suran well, once you're pulling well,
the break pipe pressure is a flat pieces of telemetry
in real time. Yeah, so you are fully monitored and
a lot of Lighthall tracks can do sort of the
same but not quite the even though what.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Not So in America now all your all your cars
have GPS tracking and you now choose your insurance rate
on how well and how safe do you think you'll drive,
which is pretty amazing, Isn't.

Speaker 17 (50:31):
That could make a difference here because I personally think
the young drive is an atrocious.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
It's good, it's good, it's good, it's called telematics. I'm
just trying to think, if you're going to get cheaper insurance,
would you put that dongle in your car and then drive?
Would it be something you'd go for?

Speaker 23 (50:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (50:51):
How much information do you want big brother to have?

Speaker 19 (50:55):
Exactly?

Speaker 17 (50:55):
Now? It knows when you're visiting the pub at ten
o'clock at night, and then the car took the next
course on the pub slightly fast. They could inserve things
from it.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
I think were the tele they call it telemans. If
you drive at night. If they're saying you drive at night,
you'd probably pay more because more precious happened at night
and things like that.

Speaker 11 (51:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (51:23):
But when we had the lockdown, I was still out
of the roads driving because I was a pretended species and.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
We drive it. Were you driving buses or trains?

Speaker 17 (51:34):
Yeah? Buses at the stage, yes, And ow amount of
speeding and fatalities didn't go down appreciably. So sort of
bigs of life for saying it's tourists.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yes, I agreed, I agree with that.

Speaker 23 (51:53):
You know, I just.

Speaker 17 (51:56):
When we got rid of the terrests a driving didn't
get better, is what I really trying to say.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Yeah, and I think that was backed up that was
certainly backed up by the stats, wasn't it.

Speaker 17 (52:06):
Yeah, and yeah, everybody's here. I've made some fantastically dumb
decisions behind the wheel, but I try to be a
decent driver. And in fact, there was my text about
cruise control, which is save me, I believe thousands of
dollars because if you will the lead foot, the cruise

(52:30):
control takes that part of the driving problem away. And
a number of white buses said cruise control and they
has the be come down very hard on commercial driver speeding.
They don't like it.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
I think, I think, I think the trouble with I
think the trouble with cruise control. There's a temptation as
to whether the ride gets a bit woodly if you
leave it on and think, well I can actually do
that one hundred k's that's what it becomes problematic.

Speaker 17 (53:01):
Hopefully you're a bit more professional than that. But another
statement you made, would you said make the roads better? Well,
unfortunately Kiwis will take that as to do exactly what
you just said, to take the corner even faster.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
So I think, yeah, but I think, I think, I
think they can make roads safer though, can't they?

Speaker 17 (53:25):
Yeah? But the same that we make the road the
faster the idiots drive. I mean, I've been doing the
speed limit of one hundred pounders an hour and had
towers towing trailers overtake me and gives me the finger.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
And I'm doing this wow wow, and they give you
the finger.

Speaker 17 (53:39):
And the tailor. Okay, that's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Well, that's a great kiwi thing, isn't it. The finger
and the trailer and the caravan twenty four to ten,
think'd beat. I just want an important notice, Marcus, just
the heads up. With fog lifting today and raining around
central Targo, there will be black ice on the roads
in the morning. It'll be very dangerous. Deck is already
frozen and slippery. It's Gary and Crummer's nice work. Gary,

(54:08):
you'd want to be very careful, particularly around the road
between Croms and Queenstown. Don't end up in the river. Marcus.
We put some cameras up at our mother's place. She
lives on her own and she's eighty two. We caught
one of the town's loose students to shed raiding the freezers.
He was on the pee. Then one night you and
I'll go with Dementro escape from the h home and
he was wandering around her garden late at night. Marcus

(54:28):
eighty five year old mother was regularly in the house
that was targeted with graffiti. At one stage put security
cameras up never happened since our Prince Charles has stepped
in aid. No surprises there, Camilla having a real battle
with the umbrella who want to be a royal? Ah, Doug,
it's Marcus. Good evening and welcome.

Speaker 17 (54:48):
Hey.

Speaker 24 (54:48):
Thanks, how are you doing Marcus?

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Yeah, good duck, good duck, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Hey.

Speaker 24 (54:52):
I just had a question about putting the signs up
before speed cameras. My question is, I mean, I understand,
like you know, you know, it makes no sense to
let people know the camera coming up, But what's worse
letting them speed and the danger other people's lives and
then giving them a ticket or letting them know that
the cameras ahead and then having them slow down on

(55:13):
the front.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
End A good point. It was just but hopefully overall
that if they realize they can be playing randomly anywhere,
that their whole driving would get better.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (55:30):
I totally and I totally get that.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
I think I think your points are valid. One.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
Yeah, I just.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Yeah, no, it's something they hadn't thought of, Dug and
I appreciate you asking that. It's a good thought. Gary Marcus,
good evening.

Speaker 20 (55:47):
Yeah, great show.

Speaker 15 (55:48):
Hey, look.

Speaker 20 (55:50):
The rather than putting speed cameras up. I've driven road
trains in Australia for a number of years from Perth
to Sydney and in sections of the road they put
point to point cameras. Yes, and measures is time that
you got there and when you go through the next camera.
If you've been speeding, they seen you a ticket in

(56:13):
the mail.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
You've got to be at the whole top of it.
You got to you got to speed the whole way.
I suppose do you.

Speaker 20 (56:19):
Well if you it times you from one point to another,
and they have said they say that if you obey
the rules, you should get there at this time. If
you if you don't, you get a ticket in the mail.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Okay they have got actually photographed. Yeah, they have got
those in New Zealand apparently Muta Kana Rode and walk
with Kika tea flat road and Dairy Flat East Coast
right and Red Vale. I think they're also in the tunnel,
the Waterview tunnel there there as well. So someone might
let me know a bit more about those, so I
think they are in this country now.

Speaker 20 (56:57):
Yeah, oh well that's good. But just one thing from
last night you were talking about wanting to know what's
going on in Pennsylvania and all sorts of other things.

Speaker 16 (57:06):
There's an app now called.

Speaker 20 (57:08):
Radio Garden, and it gives you any radio station virtually
in the world. Wow, it's called Radio Garden.

Speaker 14 (57:16):
I use it all the time.

Speaker 20 (57:18):
I'm if there's some news thing in the various country,
I just I use it. And it's amazing what you
actually learn.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Have you been on the American talk back tonight today?

Speaker 20 (57:30):
No, I haven't been because I've been working. But if
you go on to Radio Garden and get the app,
it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Hey, just tell me perth is Sidney. What was the
speed limit? Was one hundred k's for the road trains?

Speaker 17 (57:42):
Yep?

Speaker 13 (57:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (57:44):
Unfortunately in a lot of people don't like road trains
because we were I was fifty meters long and special
permits and in some towns you can only go forty k.

Speaker 17 (57:57):
Wow.

Speaker 20 (57:58):
And what they and what they do they because we're
on permits to travel. If the police catch you, they
take the permits off you and have to park a
truck up on the side of the road, and it
can take a week for them to give you a
new permit, and that would be.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
For speeding through town over forty k Is that what
you'd be, they'd be pigging here for Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah,
that was it hard to concentrate on roads like the
nuther Ball. Was it very boring to do those long
drives or was it okay?

Speaker 17 (58:27):
Oh oh yeah.

Speaker 20 (58:28):
You've got to look out the window every so often
just to make sure that you are in the same place.
But it all looks the same, it all looks the same.
But we were one hundred and one hundred tons and
three trailers. Wow, it took us a week if we
had to go to We were doing ten over ten
thousand k's.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
A week, and you just spend the whole time living
in the truck yep.

Speaker 7 (58:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (58:54):
We were two up in the truck and sometimes I
was one up by myself, and you just got to
be careful. But we had all the mod cons fridges, freezers,
you know, stoves and all that sort of carry.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
On two drivers, so you go in the whole time.

Speaker 20 (59:12):
Yeah, double bed. Yeah, we just we were just on
the road all the time.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
And but would you would you spend much time with
the other guy, would just sit in the cab and
checked them for a while before you tapped out?

Speaker 17 (59:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (59:24):
Yeah, sometimes you did.

Speaker 20 (59:25):
You just sat there and just looked out what was
going on. And particularly at night, what you found because
of the insurance what you talked about earlier on the
insurance companies. If you travel at night on another board,
no insurance on your car, there's too many kangaroos.

Speaker 17 (59:42):
Wow.

Speaker 20 (59:42):
What we and what we found is that you'd see
people at roadhouses all bunched up in cars waiting for
a road train to come out, and then they'd all
hook them behind.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
You get rid of the kangaroos.

Speaker 17 (59:55):
Wow, yep.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
And then during the day or eagles were okay, like.

Speaker 20 (01:00:02):
Look but you know the wedge tail eagle. I mean
I've driven in America to the wedge tale eagles that
they're flying around eating the last night's prey that's been
killed by road trains.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Fascinating. Thank you so much for that. Talking security cameras,
if you put some of those and how have they
worked out for your text to, says Marcus. Security cameras
infrared light to tract moths, which attracts spiders, so you
need to spray with bug spray monthly. Lens is alternately
cleaning regularly. Applying rainex is helpful. I'm in the process

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of putting one in a fake rock.

Speaker 7 (01:00:43):
Go you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
How's that worked out for you? Put because I mean,
they're so cheap now and every time you're at work
you're getting alert on your phone. Be weird A is
a classic text. Speed isn't usually the problem with for
lack of driver education and how to control a vehicle.
This should be get at high school. Unfortunately, becomingnation with

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bed driving habits which cameras won't fix. Steve Marcus, Welcome,
good evening.

Speaker 8 (01:01:11):
Oh hi, ma, guess yes, I just wanted to talk
about the speed cameras and driving in general. I don't
believe that the speed cameras will reduce the death.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Toll, and so why do we Why do we have them?

Speaker 22 (01:01:35):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (01:01:36):
Look, you might, you might reduce it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
But the way I look at it, like, hang on,
what do you mean you might? I mean this stuff
would be this stuff would be researched, wouldn't it.

Speaker 8 (01:01:49):
Oh you would? You would hope say and and yes,
let's just say that it does. But today, like when
when I was younger, and the cars that we were
driving around, and I looked nice about Murray eleven hundred.
You'd be lucky if you could do one hundred k's
in the car. Sick young guys are driving now, and

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it is young guys that end up being the ones
that are dying. In cars, you can get your license,
hop into a very powerful car and say, compare that
with a motorbike. You're you're restricted on a motorbike license,
you know, I think to a two point fifty cc
or something like that. Yep, okay, So, but as a

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car driver, you can hop into you know, even if
you're buying a car that's almost twenty years old. There's
some very you know, the powerful cars. There's some very
false cars out there, and it takes a while for
a driver to be able to handle a car like that.
And I don't think drivers are taught enough about how

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to get out of a situation when something goes wrong.
We have got a driving system that if you puzzle
and tick the boxes right and do all the rules right,
it doesn't teach you how It doesn't matter whether you're
doing something silly, but it doesn't teach you how to

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get out of a bad succession.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Okay, to talk to me a bit about your expertise.

Speaker 8 (01:03:31):
My entities as a young driver, as a foolish young driver.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
No, now, just because you know about how we need
the different training and stuff. How have you arrived at
this at this epiphany?

Speaker 8 (01:03:44):
Well, I just believe that, like if you hit yourself
in a situation where your cars in a slide. Okay,
so you're on a wet road and you're in a slide.
Now you'll get some people who will just throw the
hands off the steering room, hurt the brake and you know,
not know how to handle it. Instead of chopping down

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a gear and driving out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
You need to be although most almost all automatic now,
an't they see wouldn't chop down?

Speaker 8 (01:04:13):
You won't know where you can see? This is a
thing like even though.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Bang it across, Okay, yeah, you can do that? Is
that best practice?

Speaker 8 (01:04:23):
And people aren't talking, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:04:26):
But do you know that?

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Do you know that's the best thing to do?

Speaker 8 (01:04:30):
I look at them, not an expert riither you know.
There's there's one guy in particular who has used to
be here. I can't think of his name, who's advocated
to this for years.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Okay, so let's say let's say that your way is
the best way, right that you've got to if you
go into a skid, you've got to practice that and
work out you've got to bang down and change over here.
So how do you teach that?

Speaker 8 (01:05:01):
Oh well, it's it's like a simulator.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Okay, so no, hang on, hang on. So how many
simulators would the government need to buy?

Speaker 8 (01:05:15):
Oh? Look, they might have to get ten of them
for the whole company.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
When I was for the whole country to learn to
drive in a similar you need I think you need that.

Speaker 8 (01:05:27):
You may do, you may do, and you may have
to go to us center. Because we actually had a
simulator bus when I was at school. This is a
long time ago, back in the early eighties. We had
and it was a simulator bus that came around and
was teaching and it was very very basic back in

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those days. It was like the screen.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
And now the point I'm making there's all sorts of
probably different drive education programs we can put people through,
but it's probably just not that practical.

Speaker 8 (01:06:01):
It may not be that. I just want you know, like,
do you not think that you know with the power
of the cars these days. That that, you know, like
makes it a little bit more no.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Because I think the thing about cars is seatbelts and
now compulsory, which is one of the greatest safety events.
Got airbags and drink driving used to be commonplace. It
doesn't happen anymore. So there are three of the greatest things.
I mean, the road toll is through the floor. It's
gone from about a thousand to turn and fifty even
though the population is doubled, so we're kind of bling
an eighth of the people on the road that we

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once were.

Speaker 8 (01:06:36):
So oh yeah, I don't agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Yes, so we are much We're actually much better drivers
because we're not drunk, we wear seatbelts, and the cars
are safer and the road to safer.

Speaker 15 (01:06:48):
So so.

Speaker 8 (01:06:54):
I think we're still I still like I see it
as some element of what I'm saying involved in it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
I guess there's computers and simulations and stuff like that.
But you know, they've got to get step. People want
to set the license and even now they've actually tried
to make them go back and so again the waits
are so long, you know, cruelly long, and that's been
a real problem as well. So if you're trying to
make the license more complicated with different modules like driving

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in the ice modules and stuff like that, it's probably
going to become too unwieldy to try and get the
whole it's gonna be too cost probitive to.

Speaker 8 (01:07:33):
The cars themselves, and probably not near future, be so
controlled anyway that it may take out the element that
I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Yah, know where we're going with driverless cars. None's going
on there about that anymore. I think they might have
given up on that.

Speaker 8 (01:07:54):
Yeah, I don't know a little bit that I don't know. Yeah, yeah,
just just you know, it just seems that every car,
the stats that they have on them, you know, how
much faster they are, yes, you know, and it's like

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we're intend the roads for that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
No, but we're not making our own cars for own roads.
Are we're getting We're.

Speaker 8 (01:08:22):
Getting cars, cars from Germany that are built for the
auto down which aren't suitable to New Zealand roads. You know,
you know, that's not all cars. But you can sort
of understand where I'm getting from.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
And therefore I've got speed limits, haven't we with the
auto barn haven't got speed limits?

Speaker 8 (01:08:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:08:43):
Yeah, But you're know.

Speaker 8 (01:08:44):
What I'm saying is that we've got to getting cars
that are bolt for those sort of roads and sticking
them on New Zealand roads.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
But we haven't got a car manufacturing industries. It's going
to be hard to do anything like that, isn't it.

Speaker 8 (01:08:58):
Well we don't know. Yeah, it's just you know, either
that or we put some auto dawns on New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Well you have got the population those, Steve, that's the trouble. Yeah, Look,
I just would I mean, maybe someone's involved in driver education.
I don't know what the mistakes drivers make. I imagine
young people who drive too fast because they're an experienced year.
I don't know how you teach that. I think the
whole graded driver's license is probably quite a good system. Dennis,
it's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 23 (01:09:26):
Good evening to you, Marcus. Security camera story. We're in
a two story house. I live upstairs by myself and downstairs,
and I need hearing age. And when I forget put
hearing ages, I can't hear people knocking on the door.
Put it a bell down there and it has a

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camera on it, so if a courier delivery guy comes,
the camera lights up and I go, oh, that can wait.

Speaker 11 (01:09:55):
But it was a friend.

Speaker 23 (01:09:55):
I can see it's a friend.

Speaker 14 (01:09:56):
I can go down.

Speaker 23 (01:09:58):
And then I put one up in the kitchen looking
at the back doors that.

Speaker 11 (01:10:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 23 (01:10:05):
It came special price. And I've got a bit of
a garden out there. The bugs and the snails were
eating everything else, and I was putting blitz them down
and spraying and everything, and still be eaten.

Speaker 15 (01:10:20):
And one day I.

Speaker 23 (01:10:23):
Had this skirt camera and I was playing for it
and there was the camera picked up a bush rat
in my back lawn eating my cabbages. Wow, so if
for nothing else, it's paid, it's paid for itself.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
That's great, that's great. And that must have been a
that must have been a light bulb moment. Did you
get rid of the bush rat?

Speaker 23 (01:10:46):
Put out some special food for it which I thought
would eat? Something goes away and does whatever they do
when they go away?

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
And how did the bag camera? Did the bush rat
activate the camera?

Speaker 23 (01:11:01):
Yes, yep, it was. It must have been. It was sensitive,
I guess, you know. But yeah, because it came on
and there's a light in the back on the back porch,
a sense of light. I mean, it's the size of
a small cap and.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
It was coming at nighttime? Was it, Dennis?

Speaker 23 (01:11:21):
At nighttime? And it must have run across the lawn
to get to the cabbage. And the motion activate activated
the light, the outdoor light. At the moment that happened,
the camera flashed up as well.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
You wouldn't think the ret would have the right sort
of mouth to attack a cabbage.

Speaker 23 (01:11:39):
That surprised me. I thought they were kind, but that
he got into the demolished door and the broccoli and
the bloody lot. However, since I've gave him this special food, Yes,
it's going all right again.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Oh that's a good story, Dennis. And that's exactly what
I anticipated with security camera story. So there we got.
There's a good start from old dinners. Thank you people,
Lola Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 17 (01:12:09):
Hello, Hi Lola, Hi, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
I can hand you really wonder what going what's going
on there?

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Eh?

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Let me ever think, let me chase the buttons of seeing.

Speaker 17 (01:12:22):
Okay, yeah, can you hear me now?

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Is it better?

Speaker 7 (01:12:29):
Yeah? You're talking about Oh, when my children all went
for driving lessons, my daughter went for one lesson with
her dad and then when she went for her first
driving lesson with a driving instructor. She said, Dad taught

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me wrong. I said, well, Dad never went to driving school,
and I said, and that's why you're going to driving school.
So all our four children went to driving school because
we're in Auckland.

Speaker 17 (01:13:02):
And you have to be able to drive properly.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (01:13:06):
And so for two sixty he would have got his
license about nineteen sixty and all you had to do
was a three point turn in and stop and start on.

Speaker 17 (01:13:17):
The hill, which was the same with me.

Speaker 7 (01:13:21):
And I said, oh, you'll learn because we didn't have
so much traffic on the road.

Speaker 22 (01:13:25):
But.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
By your hill started, manual was challenging.

Speaker 17 (01:13:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:13:31):
Well they all learned on manuals and so yeah, well
we didn't have many automatic cars around in those days,
and plus manuals were easier to control. So yeah, So
my daughter has never had an accident caused by her,

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and my second son has never had an accident cause
caused by him as well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
What about your first son.

Speaker 7 (01:14:08):
Well here was a bit reckless someone. I'm not sure, hm,
I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Okay, I didn't want to ask you anything. Who taught him.

Speaker 7 (01:14:26):
Driving? They all went to driving school. Okay, Well the
driving instructor passes you, so if you think you're going
to go through driving this and then you're not, really
does just tell them fail? So if you're confident and
and you're a good driver, your driving instructor passes on

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that you're ready. So and if the driving instructor doesn't
think you're ready, when you're going to fail anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Okay, you still drive? Do you still drive, Lola?

Speaker 25 (01:15:00):
Yes, I still drive.

Speaker 7 (01:15:03):
I went to driving school.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Yeah, where'd you go?

Speaker 7 (01:15:09):
That's when I learned how you got talked properly?

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
So yeah, good on a lot of thank you for
that speak. Camera warning signs work because they boost driver
awareness to ter speeding, reduced culgnitive load with clear infoe whatever, correct,
consistent enforcement, positive reinforce, good behavior.

Speaker 17 (01:15:34):
A lot.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
If you want to talk about what you're do when
you hit the skid, if you change gear down, Tony Marcus.

Speaker 10 (01:15:41):
Welcome, Hey Marcus.

Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
I'd like to talk about the rat in the garden.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Yes please, Yes, he called it a bush. I've never
heard the referred to as a bush rat, which I
quite liked.

Speaker 10 (01:15:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:15:57):
Well, of I'm living in the bush and Mahanna just
at of Nelson and in a house bus and a caravan,
and I've been here for been here for twelve years,
and absolutely love it. Pay seventy five dollars a week.

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Isn't that cheap?

Speaker 10 (01:16:21):
Rent?

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Because you've got a caravan and a house truck.

Speaker 5 (01:16:26):
Yep, which is mine?

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Yeah, no, I'm not down in that.

Speaker 10 (01:16:31):
Yep. I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:33):
And I've got a wonderful garden. I've got potatoes, I've
got cabbages, I've got broccoli, I've got herbs, I've got
all sorts and nothing touches it. I've got a bull terrier.
His name is Colfs.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Can you tell me where Mahonna exactly is? I'm looking
at like.

Speaker 10 (01:16:58):
Much awake at and Nelson and been there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Yeah, it's quite a built up area around there, though,
was it.

Speaker 22 (01:17:09):
Not?

Speaker 10 (01:17:09):
Really?

Speaker 5 (01:17:12):
It's a main highway heading towards which Waker.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Yes, sure, I see where you are y.

Speaker 7 (01:17:20):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:17:21):
Beautiful spot and you're in life yep.

Speaker 10 (01:17:25):
And the bush.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Is there a lot of bush there? Not really?

Speaker 10 (01:17:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
There is, okay.

Speaker 5 (01:17:34):
Yep, and a lot of pine trees in a tin
hit tear peddick with another guy.

Speaker 10 (01:17:45):
He's about.

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
Seventy and he's in a caravan as well.

Speaker 10 (01:17:52):
Jeepers, absolutely love it, easy life.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
How long you been there?

Speaker 10 (01:18:00):
Did you say twelve years?

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
And is the house truck still functional? Is no longer work?

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:18:09):
It still goes.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Oh god, oh you got all going on?

Speaker 10 (01:18:12):
Yep? Love it, absolutely love it? Easy life.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
And how much of your vegetables do you grow yourself?
All of them?

Speaker 5 (01:18:24):
All of them? I grow all of my veggies.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Do you have a surpace? What do you do with
your excess? Give them to the guy on the caravan?

Speaker 10 (01:18:33):
No, I well, yeah I do. I also give the.

Speaker 5 (01:18:40):
Much waker mariod for the needy.

Speaker 7 (01:18:46):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
I was kind of looking at the last time I
bike from Nelson right around the coast, I went sort
of Rabbit Island on the ferry to Marpaus. So I
missed Mahannas. I would have wouldn't have gone past your
place because on.

Speaker 5 (01:18:59):
The other road, No, you would have because where yep,
just before you come from Richmond towards my poet, there's
my straight. It's a straight before it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Okay, Oh, I have a load of a look at
the map tney. But thank you for calling. Nice to
talk to you. Yeah, Vicky Marcus, welcome ye your sleep.
I'll come back to your Vicky. I'll take this break
and I'll come back to get yourself sorted. Oh sorry
about that, Vicky Beckitt, your Vicky Marcus, welcome being away.

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We go. Hi Hi, Vicky.

Speaker 7 (01:19:41):
Hi, I just was waking about them. We traveled across
a nullable. I'm just skipting my diary actually, and I'd.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Love if you with your diary to me, Vicky.

Speaker 7 (01:19:56):
I know well thing of that. You've got to get
your glasses out.

Speaker 24 (01:20:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
It was.

Speaker 7 (01:20:06):
My kids were four and seven and I'm just trying
to find a page. Umm, I hated it. I'll tell
you what. Ice spy doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
No, that's good, minye. I've never liked ice spy in
a car go it's always hedge sign car.

Speaker 7 (01:20:32):
Seven year old? No, yeah, Now you got to do
something because it's quite boring.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Wouldn't take it for a seven year old? On then,
I mean most of us we have traveled driving to blood,
driving bluff and the card and the car littlone across
the another boar.

Speaker 7 (01:20:51):
I'm just scanning that Paula Gusta to Sojourna was four hundred, no,
four eighty three. K's passing the another bore one too?
Two okays?

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
And what is it?

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
Okay? Big your pattern, who's doing it? You and your Yeah?
Do you have a husband?

Speaker 7 (01:21:14):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, No. We did twelve and twenty k's
in a day across another board and it says we
crossed another board and I've just got my diary out.
We left early and drove a very long this is
my son. We stopped for lunch at UCLA. Do you

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know Yukla?

Speaker 17 (01:21:39):
Yes?

Speaker 14 (01:21:41):
Do yep?

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
How do you know that it's personal?

Speaker 7 (01:21:48):
Well, we started at lunch and they went on the
sand hols Amy and I had. Then we went to
Northman and we've got it was an incredible journey.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
And UCLA's right on the border in Australia.

Speaker 7 (01:22:07):
Right correct, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
So where were you heading for? I feel like I
need more of a backstory.

Speaker 19 (01:22:16):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:22:17):
My husband and I decided when we were I don't know, younger,
way younger than I am now, and so we went
to Melbourne and we decided we're going to go round
the whole of Australia on the coast.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
With a four and a seven year old. Did you
head red?

Speaker 7 (01:22:36):
No, I'd rather be than a fifteen year old and
a fifteen year old.

Speaker 25 (01:22:45):
No.

Speaker 7 (01:22:45):
They we're really good and I loved it and you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Went, You went all the way, you went right around,
right round.

Speaker 7 (01:22:53):
We went right round from Melbourne, right round the coast.
I was a nullbore up to Darwin, right down Queen's
Land and back to Melbourne and the home.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Over how long?

Speaker 7 (01:23:08):
Three months?

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Sapers?

Speaker 23 (01:23:11):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:23:12):
Well, you know you you can start up home and
be bored or you can.

Speaker 10 (01:23:17):
No, I was just matic.

Speaker 7 (01:23:22):
Have you done another board as well?

Speaker 22 (01:23:25):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
I haven't, not by train and not by car. It's
it's a bucket. It's part of my road bucket list,
just from tonight my rbl and I'll keep a diary.
But yeah, eight hundred and eighty. And also security cameras
right right, security cameras and whether they've worked for you,

(01:23:48):
and the weird things you've found. I don't know what
people would find that's weird, but I'm up for that discussion.
People love them, don't they. They love them always. I
don't know where you'd buy them, super cheap or dick
Smith or one of those shops presumed dick Smith is
still going strong, is it? Or Uncle Bill's that's still

(01:24:08):
going strong. Who knows? These days? Were the shops retail
that's tough a woo goodness, like a death rattle old retail.
I tell you what I thought was good.

Speaker 17 (01:24:25):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Dress Smart Hornby always good. You park on the roof
and you come down. You think on the first floor.
Actually on the ground floor. What's that about? Dress Smart Hornby.
There you go, get the kids, the shoes off they

(01:24:53):
go anyway. It's kind of interesting that kids just wear
running shoes now, isn't it, Because it's sort of what
we used to wear. It's kind of weird that sort
of the shoes have become so comfortable. There's children have
shoes one of the first months or blisters. Weren't they

(01:25:14):
think it's going to get them these days? Something we
should probably celebrate the fact that the kids are blister free. Well,
I'm celebrating there, Joe Marcus welcome.

Speaker 26 (01:25:26):
Okay Marcus, Joe here our first time caller from you. Joe, Yeah,
thank you. Look back in only seven when Fremantle Perth
had the America's Cup, me and a couple of mates
and our twenties thought would go over there. We flew
to Sydney. We bought a cheap car for about one
thousand dollars. I thought we'd do it up and drive

(01:25:48):
over across the Nullabor a blessing in disguise. The car
broke down in Sydney, so I think it's quite dangerous
crossing a nullabor. And you know from Sydney to Perth.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
You bought you bought the cur and Sydney and at
questions and you broke down Sidney right.

Speaker 26 (01:26:08):
Yeah, we had a backyard mechanic with us. He said
he'd soup it up and get us across there.

Speaker 17 (01:26:13):
We're in our.

Speaker 26 (01:26:14):
Twenties, so they got in there.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
This is this is eighty seven A yeah, seven.

Speaker 26 (01:26:22):
I think it was plastic, fantastic. We got across there.
We got across the on the Greyhound, the bus which
was probably about two hundred dollars then, and it was
seventy two hours on the bus from Sydney to Perth.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Did the bus stop, Yeah, a road.

Speaker 26 (01:26:41):
Stops that stopped and let you have a share and
stuff like that. We're pretty young, so it was quite
a good adventure. But we got the birth Fremantle and
it was quite a good atmosphere. Then at the time
worked at Peno Cold storage and used to unload containers
full of kegs of steinlager.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Okay, so you got a job straight away to ju.
Is that what you said?

Speaker 26 (01:27:05):
Yeah, A lot of people said you shouldn't go over
there because you won't get a job in that. But
there's a lot of Kiwi's work in there, good workers,
and we had a lot of fun there be talk.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
The talk was always you go and drive Texis over
there for the America's cup So your mate's got jobs
as well.

Speaker 26 (01:27:21):
Yeah, Peno Cold Storage in North Frio. So we're unloading
containers full of Steinlager from New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
How'd you get the job?

Speaker 26 (01:27:34):
Just so friends with you over there at the time.
We do a couple of people. One of the guys brothers,
was over there. Sure, yeah, no, there was really good fun.
But when the America's Cupboard left it was like a
ghost town. But I haven't returned back to Perth. It's
probably we well ago.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
But it was your Yeah you have well you haven't
been back.

Speaker 26 (01:27:56):
No, I haven't been back, but it's you know, it's
the most isolated city in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
That's right. I went there like two or three years
ago on a bit of a junket and I was
quite I went to the walk down between down the coast,
a five day walk back spent a couple of days
in Freo, already taken by it. I thought, I thought
the people were lovely.

Speaker 26 (01:28:15):
Yeah, yeah, it's a good place. We drove down to
Margaret River and places like that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
Margaret River's pretty special there with the sharks, but I
like it.

Speaker 26 (01:28:25):
Yeah, it was pretty big surf and we went down there.
But we were young and quite naive, and you know,
we thought we'd never get the bus back, but we
actually did because that's all the money we had. But
to Sydney. So yeah, good Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
How many months did you spend there?

Speaker 26 (01:28:43):
Probably about nine months?

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Okay, okay, that's good. So you save nothing?

Speaker 26 (01:28:50):
No, not really, weren't there for saving in your twenties.
You just you know, yeah, adventure. So no, it was
good fun. But yeah, and you.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Wouldn't have watched much of the yachting. Wasn't that easy
to watch, was it?

Speaker 24 (01:29:05):
No?

Speaker 26 (01:29:06):
We said would go over there because of that reason,
but didn't really have much interest in it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
No, And I think the whole.

Speaker 6 (01:29:13):
Place, I think those days, it was good.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
In those days, the autic was quite a long way
off the coast, was it.

Speaker 26 (01:29:19):
Yeah, it was sort of around I think out by
Rodney s Island or somewhere.

Speaker 17 (01:29:24):
Around the area.

Speaker 7 (01:29:26):
So no, it was good.

Speaker 26 (01:29:29):
But I think you'd be pretty braved across the Nullybar.
And you know, probably because these days are a lot
more reliable and people would be a lot more equipped.
But in our twenties we should didn't think about that much.
But yeah, seventy two hours on the bus was pretty
hard going.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Wonder probably the Greyhound's probably not that much more expensive
now the way bus fees have gone.

Speaker 26 (01:29:52):
No, I think it was only two hundred and twenty
five one way, so it wasn't too bad. But yeah,
on your twenties, it was a good fun.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
It's a good cool jar going to move on, but
look lovely to talk to you. Thank you for it's
done the well driving across the nullible's got The topic
is in he Colin as Marcus good evening.

Speaker 14 (01:30:13):
Yeah, hi Marcus about the Nuba. Yeah, I went over
in eighty six and I think that's when the plastic
fantastics were actually the guys. A year out I went
on the Indian Pacific. I've lost my license here in

(01:30:34):
New Zealand.

Speaker 27 (01:30:34):
So I couldn't winch would you lose it?

Speaker 28 (01:30:38):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (01:30:38):
No, I lost it for six months here in the
Yep Yep when I made the gin and the reason
why I went across the Melbourne is because I was
gett hidden to Perth. I had never been there and
it was just a way of filling in time between
Bethturst motor racing in Sydney and the Formula One in Adelaide. Anyway,

(01:31:01):
that interesting part of the journey was like I thought
that the training a fair gallop across the Melba, but
it doesn't. It goes reasonably slow because the ground is
not all that stable. And as for being a desert,
I thought it would have been, you know, a desert desert,
but it's not. It's got a small bush that grows

(01:31:25):
which is not very high across the whole surface. And
most of the people back in eighty six when they
went across the Maliba, if they drove across it, most
of them had trailers and they had several spear tires,
et cetera. But with the journey and I taught from,

(01:31:45):
it takes four days. And the reason why it doesn't
take the seventy two hours like as in the buses,
was because when against the Porta Gasta, it goes down
to the train goes down to Adelaide and you lose
a day, and then it goes back up to porta Gasta,
and then they stop at cal Girley of course and
do their spiel there before you go to Perth.

Speaker 11 (01:32:08):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
Do you do much in Perth when you got there?

Speaker 10 (01:32:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:32:13):
I saw the.

Speaker 14 (01:32:15):
Yacht racing and then I went out a really interesting
journey out to rotneyt Island yep and which is a
modification of the name it's actually was the originally rat nest.
The early settler was called the rat List because there
was that that that funny little marsupial that runs around

(01:32:37):
there looks more like a rat.

Speaker 15 (01:32:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:32:43):
What else did? We went up the Swan River and
then I traveled back to Adelaide. Yeah, for the Formula one.

Speaker 13 (01:32:57):
After that.

Speaker 14 (01:32:59):
The interesting thing about Carol Gurley I was apparently they
had fifty two hotels eighty six. We were down to
about twenty twenty six I think. But I went to
Sydney in sixty eight and with a couple of mates

(01:33:22):
and then I but one of them decided to go
to Carol Gurley and he got a truck ride from
Sydney to Melbourne. Then another one from Melbourne to Adelaide
and then he then he managed to get across another

(01:33:42):
via train for twenty seven dollars back then to get
to cal Gurley.

Speaker 7 (01:33:49):
He still there?

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
Was he still there when you went in ninety six?

Speaker 24 (01:33:54):
No?

Speaker 14 (01:33:54):
I never met up with him then, Yeah, but he
went across there. Had I gone to cal Gurley, I
think I would have never come back to New Zealand.
I was only eighteen then. And in sixty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Were you now calling you Australia?

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
Now?

Speaker 14 (01:34:14):
I married a girl from down your way after doing
the FreedomWorks down there, and I'm I'm living at the moorromwent.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
But did you meet an ocean beach?

Speaker 22 (01:34:25):
No?

Speaker 14 (01:34:26):
No, I got kicked out of here. I ended up
on Matera. Really wow, that's where I met a Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Yeah, good story Colin, thank you, vivids Marcus welcome they Hey.

Speaker 28 (01:34:41):
We drove a Nullibar twenty eighteen. We we had been
that we've been over every winter for four years and
this was our the last time that we were. I
think we want to do the nuther Boar. So we
we had a proto and a caper trailer. We drove
down through Melbourne and spent a few days around there

(01:35:04):
and then drove on through. The thing that caught us
out was at the beginning of another board, there's a
quarantine station. It took all our fresh fruit, vegetables and
all the car so we lived on kind of rice
and pasta and things.

Speaker 10 (01:35:21):
Like that for the time.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
We should have checked out and should have checked out
the website. What were they trying to keep out of there?
They got biosecurity problems and they.

Speaker 28 (01:35:29):
Well they have it when you leave when you go
to Northern Territory too. So yeah, but in mind, it
was it was fun. There are roads, road houses where
you stopped and camped. It was pretty cold at night.
One night, our water and the came a trailer froze,

(01:35:49):
so we had to get the barbecue out and put
that under in the morning so that we got water
for a cup of coffee. Ye, but it was it
was an interesting trip.

Speaker 17 (01:35:57):
It was.

Speaker 28 (01:35:58):
It's a long drive, but it's we found that driving
through the outback, you I think it's boring, but actually,
after you've done it at we while, you start to
see a little change, subtle changes that happened, and that's
really quite interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
Did you do it twice?

Speaker 28 (01:36:16):
Viv We didn't do another ball tys. But we did.
We went over for five years and just at the
winters and we drove most of from when we left Perth.
We went through the middle up to our springs and
that rode from there is it's a narrow t seal
row some of the way and the rest of the
way was a sand and that was pretty interesting. Come

(01:36:40):
out at Uluru, yes, and droven up then to Alice and.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
No dramas with the Prado and the and the caravan
or at Copman.

Speaker 5 (01:36:51):
The oil.

Speaker 28 (01:36:52):
The Prata was wonderful. It had a fuel tanks which
meant that we had a range of twelve hundred caves
that we could do and had double batteries and it's
which sort of helped us out with the camper trailer. Yeah,
we did. The only part that we didn't do going

(01:37:14):
around Australia was from Fremantle north to eighty mile Beach.
We'd come down from Broom and done that another year,
but yeah, we missed out on that part. But otherwise
we'd all the way around Australia and yeah, over than
five winters.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
Oh, what a fantastic thing to do. So five winters,
what five months? Four months per winter. Three months per winter.

Speaker 28 (01:37:39):
We'd do about four months, three or four months each winter,
would just pop over there and pick up our car
and from out of storage and get off.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
It's an amazing thing to do that.

Speaker 7 (01:37:51):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
And then and once you'd finished that, you'd felt you
had done with Australia, that you felt you had enough,
or you could have kept going forever.

Speaker 28 (01:37:58):
We could have kept going, but it was getting expensive
because putting it in storage costs four thousand and the summer,
so that sort of when you we'd stored it for
three or four years, it was done to get pretty expensive.
So fortunately we saw.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
You wonder why there's not a solution to that? Doesn't
you wonder why there's not a website? You could leave
it in someone's backyard or something. I'm just trying to
It does seem a lot, doesn't it.

Speaker 28 (01:38:23):
Yeah, but it was it was good to have it
undercover and so that when we got it out, we
just kept a matter of charging the batteries and checking
the world and so forth and where you went again.
But yeah, we were very lucky because we sold it
in twenty nineteen and then if we kept it for
another year, we would have been stuck. With COVID and

(01:38:43):
it would have been point disastrous.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
And it was easy to sell the car and the
cara of it. It was easy to sell both of them.

Speaker 17 (01:38:50):
Yep, no problem.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
And you didn't lose a huge amount or you're.

Speaker 28 (01:38:55):
Okay, we lost nothing. Oh wow, we did sixty thousand
k's and we got the price same price back.

Speaker 3 (01:39:04):
For the car.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
Twenty fourteen, fifteen or something, Yeah.

Speaker 28 (01:39:12):
Twenty fourteen. Yep, it was.

Speaker 7 (01:39:15):
It was.

Speaker 28 (01:39:16):
It was a fantastic experience and it's certainly something that
we often think about and often talk about and yeah,
I'll do it again, and it is.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
Just so, just so I can visualize it. What was
the It was like a caravan? Is that what you had?
Or was it something? But is that what you called it?

Speaker 28 (01:39:34):
More basically than that, it was it was basically a
trailer that you lifted up the top and drove. That
was the top was solid, and that became the water.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
Of the floor of the But they're quite well done,
aren't they. They're like a modern thing, aren't They're not
like the old pop top. But they'd say similar concept,
aren't they.

Speaker 28 (01:39:52):
Oh this was a fairly old one, so it was
pretty pretty rare. He but it was okay, And I
mean we only had one that experience where we had
a crocodile sleeping our out out and our awning and
woke up in the more and there's this big patch
of a crocodile. Who it's a little bit of canvas
between me and the crocodile.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
Nice story for Thank you so much. Hold your horses,
mad would gmb with your zone. Hi Margaret, it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 29 (01:40:19):
I know I went across a man a boor or
we did about thirty years ago. A very straight, straight
road and you've got to be careful for the range
for the road trains if you're towing a caravan like
we were, because they suck you in as they go
past because they're so long. We saw a caravan that
got sucked in and it had the whole sides taken out. Yes,

(01:40:41):
so that's one thing. You've got to keep your eye
on the region and look out for the road trains.

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
So so okay, So how many nights the road?

Speaker 15 (01:40:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
I know, what how many nights did you spend on it?

Speaker 29 (01:40:57):
I'm just trying to think. We just sort of because
we had the caravan, we just stopped at some of
the roadhouses because I'm really good roadshouses there to stay
at and you can also get water from them.

Speaker 23 (01:41:06):
That what we did.

Speaker 29 (01:41:06):
And then we just continued right round, right round the
bottom of Western Australia up to Perth and then just
kept going, kept going right up to we've got Karatha
and then the cyclone season was starting, so we stopped
at Kartha and got work and went through two cyclones

(01:41:27):
in Karatha and then just continued on after the cyclone
season finished. But it was well worth it. You go
and go across the mother ball was just straight, nothing
much to feed, just straight, and you don't you don't
go at night because of the kangaroos, just jump across
the front.

Speaker 17 (01:41:42):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
And is it true you're not insured at night or
is that not the situation?

Speaker 29 (01:41:46):
Well, I don't think you were insured at night. I'm
not sure what it is now, but we were advised
not to do it. And you can understand why we
could just pop out from nowhere.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
Is there a lot of traffic or not much traffic.

Speaker 29 (01:42:01):
When we went, it was surprising a lot of road trains,
you know, yeah, but it was surprising there were people
with quite more caravans, probably because a lot of people
were doing that. I think they still do that. But
it was well, it was well worth it. It was
a becoming to go is don't go in the summer.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
It's very hot, I can imagine. And the roadhouses you
stay and that's like a motel as well.

Speaker 10 (01:42:24):
Is that right?

Speaker 29 (01:42:25):
Yes, yes you can, yes, And they're very friendly, you know,
very hospitable. So it's it's and it's great being in
their backs like that.

Speaker 10 (01:42:34):
It's well worth it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
Oh, thank you, Margaret. Nice to hear we are to
talk about the null about twenty six plast eleven. Janet's Marcus.
Good evening and welcome Hi.

Speaker 7 (01:42:42):
Marcus, Hi jan High.

Speaker 27 (01:42:45):
My nullboard story goes back quite a long time to
my young, foolish youth in nineteen seventy sixth I meet
an Australian guy and we hit tight from Adelaide to ten.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
I'm liking the sorry d.

Speaker 27 (01:43:05):
Across Vanala War and this is before the new road
was built, so it was metal road and we took
four days to get across. As I say, young and foolish,
no idea really what to expect, just an impulsive thing

(01:43:29):
that we did. And I remember one of the rides
we had put from a place called Sedouna.

Speaker 10 (01:43:37):
I think.

Speaker 27 (01:43:39):
We got picked up by a v dub a guy
in a v dub beetle and we dropped and a
dust storm came up and we could not see past
the end of the front of a vehicle. It was
just light dark with dust storms. And the funny thing

(01:44:03):
is that I had this black suede hand bed that
I had with me, and you know, in later times
when I got back home to New Zealand, I had
never been able to get the dust out of that
hand deck from that trip. And some months later we

(01:44:25):
did the same thing coming back. We hitch hip back
from her to Adelaide, and I can remember we got
picked up by a truck driver and it was his
first time that he'd ever left Western Australia and it
was really amusing because it was like he had was

(01:44:46):
traveling to a completely new country and he took us
quite a considerable distance and he had a double bunk
sleeper cab and we were able to sleep in the
cab as well, which was very good of him and
very trusting.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
Did you camp on the way across when you hit
the first across, did you have a tep with you
do you stand in the roadhouses.

Speaker 27 (01:45:11):
We've had a few different rides. You know, it's such
a long time ago. It's almost fifty years.

Speaker 2 (01:45:18):
It's almost fifty years.

Speaker 25 (01:45:19):
You're right, I know.

Speaker 27 (01:45:21):
But it's one of those memories, you know that I
that whenever I tell the story, it's that actually happened.
We did that stupid thing.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
And and did you go and work in Perth when
you got there.

Speaker 27 (01:45:36):
A little while?

Speaker 25 (01:45:37):
Yes?

Speaker 13 (01:45:37):
We did.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
And it was easy to find easy to find work
there when you got there.

Speaker 29 (01:45:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 27 (01:45:43):
Yeah, we weren't actually in a roadhouse south of Perth.

Speaker 10 (01:45:50):
For a while.

Speaker 27 (01:45:52):
Yeah, I mean, it was just i'd only what eighteen?

Speaker 2 (01:45:57):
Goodness, that's what.

Speaker 25 (01:45:58):
You do when you're young.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
Had you meet the guy in Australia?

Speaker 27 (01:46:02):
Jen, No, I meet him here in a pub and
you're ipo, wow, wow, of the whole story, but.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
Is still on the scener around or you know where
he is? No, Okay, that's a great story. We got you,
he got you there and he got there and back
together safely.

Speaker 23 (01:46:26):
You know.

Speaker 27 (01:46:28):
Yeah, that's right. Good story to tell the grandchildren.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
It's a great story because I can't imagine many but
because you know, you don't know what you can't do,
do you. I don't know if many people would hit
choke across them. It seems ambitious. It's a long way
and a long.

Speaker 27 (01:46:43):
Way, you know, you know, and you could actually see
where they were building the new road along parallel to
that metal road.

Speaker 13 (01:46:58):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 27 (01:46:59):
It was a fascinating trip because it's dead dead flat
and dead straight.

Speaker 2 (01:47:04):
You should do a fiftieth anniversary spell on YouTuber, on
TikTok or something.

Speaker 15 (01:47:08):
You're going to do it again, Jan, Oh, I don't
think so.

Speaker 27 (01:47:14):
From a seventiers you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
Reckon well, you get plenty of followers, but look, I
don't know. I mean they reckon the roll of travelers.
Never go back. You'll be disappointed. And you didn't have
that sort of mad excitement that you said. It was
nineteen seventy six, didn't you.

Speaker 27 (01:47:27):
Yes, nineteen seventy that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
Delightful story, Jane. Thank you very very much for that.
We can almost picture it. Funny thing to take a
Swede handbag th way. I'm sorry, sounds like you met
him in the pub and left the next.

Speaker 27 (01:47:44):
Morning a little time later.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
Okay, nice to talk, Jan, Thank you. The British have
done a survey on the worst biscuit, and the worst
biscuit is the pink Wafer, which I actually put is
one of the best biscuits. The worst biscuit is the
pink Wafer at twenty two percent. The second worst is
the fig role, which I don't think. We haven't use
it in the fig role. Let me have a look

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at it. Can see a picture of it there. Actually
they've got a picture of Bourbon Garibaldi Jemmy Dodger party.
And I don't know what a fig role is anyway,
thinking of a biscuit. Fig role. Oh yeah, I know
what they're like. Yeah, they're sketchy. You know what they're like.
They look like the name says. I see them around

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in biscuits. We don't call them that here, but they're
not great. I am a police officer and really left off.
We've been let down by the government. Yeah, thanks for
that and commiserations to you. Good to hear from you.
By the way, will you go to Queensland? Marcus. I
was in Port Pitty of staying with my family. My
youngest son arrived from Perth. Decided to take mum on

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a road trip Passport AUGUSTA long, long, bleak drive ended
up on iron ob at the Old Pub. Nothing else
was their thick file here and rung you or a
ready great talk back. Jan Marcus, wats your thoughts on
the shooter of Trump, a right leaning person. I haven't
cracked his phone yet, have they? I mean, look, I

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think everyone will be trying to politicize that in all
sorts of ways. I think the situation is not what
the political persuasion of the person is, but the fact
that there's the valuability of those sorts of guns and
all sorts of things. But anyway, it's all fairly depressing.

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I had read a fairly good article last night in
the New York Times about speaking to the photographer that
took that shot, and he was really he's been a
political Photogphy's been a photographer of the New York Times
for forty years. And he was like within five feet

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from Trump and just clicking away. And he was devastating
afterwards he realized how close he was to getting shot,
but cl click clicked the shots. I think the camera
was just above him. He wasn't even looking through the
lens and got the iconic shot which will define his career,

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and then send all his shots through to the editor,
the picture editor, and just say check. I figured were
the actual words. We were just checked there could be
some signs of the bullet, or just look closer at
the pot of him up and stuff. And the woman
called straight back in a minute and said, yes, we
can see the bullet. I don't know if I've ever

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ever heard of anyone taking a photo that captures a bullet.
It's just extraordinary. And to capture the bullet from one
of the most I don't even know what you'd say,
one of the most publicized assassination attempts, just unbelievable. I

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actually meant to go and look at the image after
I had listened to the podcast. I didn't do that,
but I'm looking at it now. You can see it
and see the bullet. Well, I guess you're not really
seeing the bullet, but you can see you can see
the well, you can see the bullet. Just unbelievable. And

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there is trump up side profile, a little hands, you
can see them all the bullet coming across. Goodness, anyway,
sixteen away from twelve o'clock, if she want to talk
eight hundred and eighty eight Taddy in nineteen nine to
detect Marcus drove from Sydney to Perth in nineteen eighty
seven and a combe van took four days driving non stop,
drove with a side door open due to the heat.

(01:51:47):
I remember seeing a cyclist in the middle of nowhere
and Wombat's great trip. I do it again. Marcus, here's
some news for you. No spicy fruit delivered to stores
from tomorrow due to manufacturing issues. That's heartbreaking. Cherry like
the fruit. It's Marcus, welcome, good evening, Thank you.

Speaker 25 (01:52:05):
N We have only just turned on the radio and
I gather you've been talking about driving across another ball.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
Correct right well.

Speaker 25 (01:52:15):
In nineteen seventy, I, along with five others bought an
International omnibus four and a half tons and we drove
from Sydney over to Perth. It took us about a month.
I had bought it half She is with an American

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guy who'd come back from the Vietnam War, and we
picked up a hitchhiker who was marvelous at playing the piano.
And every little country pub we called in it he
sat down at the piano and played a few tunes.
One put country pub, the patrons lined up so many

(01:53:03):
beers that he sort of had enough bears to see
him through about two hours and the public and a
lady got on the telephone and phoned everybody within about
one hundred mile radius, and there were three people in aeroplanes,
little planes that flew in and landed on the road
and came to the pub. She was saying, we haven't

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had this much fund since so and so daughter got
married fifteen years ago, so that was quite an event.
We broke a back spring and yes, and spent three
days was the back of the bus jacked up in
the air while the Kiwi mails went into town to
try and find somebody to fix the back spring. And

(01:53:47):
then when we got over to almost the West Australian boundary,
the water pump we went and so we had to
wire beer cans up above some strategic pipe every ten
k every ten miles because it was those days, stopped

(01:54:11):
and fill them all up so they could drip down
on this pipe to keep the engine going. And the
last thing just before we just after we'd crossed the
West Australia border, the petrol pump packed up, so we
had to go the last distance to perse on gravity.

(01:54:33):
F So we had an auxiliary petrol pump that was
inside on the fridge behind the driver's wheel and had
a little hose going over the driver's shoulder, out the
window and into the engine. So just out of Perth
there was a mountain range and.

Speaker 3 (01:54:56):
Well held.

Speaker 25 (01:54:58):
We all sat there watching it, praying that the the
gradient wouldn't be so great that the petrol would start
running backwards into the tank instead of into the engine.
So it was an absolute amazing experience. The road wasn't
tass sealed. At one stage one of our drivers said, well,

(01:55:23):
there's a sign there saying slow down COVID. I forgot
the name of the place right in the middle of
the another ball, but it had George Check was the
owner of a truck stop there, and it said slow
down thirty miles an hour. And Pierre said, well, we

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haven't gone over twenty five miles. We should be saying yes,
seed up.

Speaker 3 (01:55:51):
So it was.

Speaker 25 (01:55:52):
It was a wonderful, wonderful experience and something that I
will never ever.

Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
Did you spend long in Perth once you got there,
we spent.

Speaker 25 (01:56:09):
About a month. I got myself a relieving bookkeeping job,
and I was sure that I was working for the
mafia because it was a real estate agent and I
think every Italian family in first had bought a house
on a ten dollar deposit. But this was the time

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of the nickel boom Inland, and so we went back
into Calgooley because the New Zealand males all got jobs
out in the out in the field, you know, prospecting
in various ways. And I was able to get a

(01:56:52):
job as a barmaid in Calgouley and also.

Speaker 17 (01:56:56):
Teaching.

Speaker 25 (01:56:57):
And I will never get forget my.

Speaker 22 (01:57:03):
Form two class.

Speaker 25 (01:57:05):
It had iboriginal girls in it and it was the
first time they'd had Aboriginies back at the school for
something like eight years because they'd had a bone pointing
ceremony against one of the teachers they didn't like. And
to sit there with an atlas and try and explain
that the blue line on the atlas was water, the

(01:57:27):
Nile River, and the water flowed across the countryside. These
girls just looked at me and total disbelief, because of
course they'd never seen a river in their life. And
it just I thought to myself, I'm not cut out
to be a social studies teacher because I had no

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luck in trying to explain what a river was. I
must say that my teaching experience at Eastern Goldfield High School,
I had the best hockey team that I'd ever coached
because they were playing on hard packed earth and they
never ever fell over. The other thing that was rather

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interesting was that when you went to the trots, if
your horse wasn't winning, you had no idea where it
was because there was one horse out in front and
then just a great cloud of dust. But the desert
was absolutely amazing, you know. We walked in a fit

(01:58:38):
of madness fifty four miles through it and had to
carry our own water, and six cars came out to
make sure we were still alive because three of us
were doing a walkers on to raise money for the
Aboriginal hospital. And yes, we walked. That distance took us

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three days, and that was amazing because the road was
so flat and straight most of the way, but you
could never gauge your progress because there was not one
tree that was taller, or a mountain or a hill

(01:59:23):
or anything. It was just flat and saltbush all the
same size. So that was one of the most depressing
things I've done in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:59:34):
Did you take any did you take any video film
of your trip? Any films? I mean film film, were
any photos?

Speaker 25 (01:59:41):
No, this was nineteen seventy.

Speaker 13 (01:59:45):
You know.

Speaker 25 (01:59:45):
I had a little, a little Olympus camera that took
come and slides, but there was no nothing like having
your own phone and you can photograph anything.

Speaker 2 (01:59:59):
Oh no, I realized about the thing. But there was
no sort of Super eight film when no color positives
taken from them. Okay, to shame, be a great thing
to see. Sure, I got to go. It look nice
to talk to you. Thank you very much for that.
That people, I'm out of here.

Speaker 1 (02:00:14):
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