Are solo artists the future of music? (25 July)

Marcus discusses whether bands are on the way out as solo artists claim top spots in the charts and off the back of last night's torch issue, should we have the right to repair our appliances?

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
I hate to say it, but I'm excited about the
Olympics for what I don't I don't hate to say it,
but snack up on me. And already we're talking about
the flag bearers, of course, which we always call the
pool bearers. By mistake, there'll be an ounce sometimes anyway,
who cares, although because this time with a flag bearer, right,
you're not marching into the stadium, you're floating down the
river on a boat down the Seine. So what we

(00:35):
know so far as slipdog. He comes in with the torch,
don't get me started on torches. And then they all
come down the river the river sen passed the Arcta
triumph in the Eiffel Tower, and then Lady Gaga sings
and oh and then it's all on. So that's a situation.
So yeah, and of course Celine Dion sings too. Could

(01:00):
be a lot. This could be a Swan song, of course,
because she's got stiff person syndrome. So that's the way
it's going to go. They're we're excited, and of course
the open ceremony is not till tomorrow. But tonight there's
already football tonight. When I say tonight, I mean thirty
tomorrow morning. New Zealand sevens against Ireland and we go
through to the quarter final. Look we win that, it's
till very early and then the New Zealand women's team

(01:22):
does play. That's what there's been all that fuss about
with the spying. I'll tell you something about the Olympics.
It always turns up things you didn't think we're going
to be a big problem. Not last time. Last time
was fine. These envisis Canada. Obviously Canada the spies, so

(01:43):
that will be a new naviss Canada. You want to
watch that. That's three in the morning, four in the afternoon
in Paris times, so that's where that is sent it
ten so that's three in the you want to watch
that news Intervisus Canada and well done. These men were
beating Guinea. By the way. A couple of questions for me,

(02:05):
I don't know if the women's footballer the same as
the men's football. Where they've all got to be out
of twenty three If someone could research that and text
me back about that and what I can't work out right,
would the rugby sevens. Hello, the quarter final will be
this morning if we go through, which I think we

(02:27):
are confirmed to. So we play Ireland at two thirty,
then the quarter finals at seven in the morning. What's
with the indecent haste? Why are we doing it so
very early? They haven't started. There's already the quarters, so
what's that about? So that means it's only the semis

(02:51):
in the final. Just it's only seven to only takes
half an hour. Why would they get wrapped wrapped up?
So we are they short of fields? I'm not saying
that to be bratty, but why would they be doing
it so early? It can't be much fun for the athlete.
It seems indecent. By the way. The pool bearers will
be announced at a team function at three forty five

(03:13):
ends it three forty five am New Zealand time tomorrow morning.
They normally go with a tired old campaigner, someone that's
been there a while. It's Mark Todd still there. Dame
Cindy Kettle will present the two flag bearers with kakahu
to be worn at the opening ceremony. So there you go.

(03:36):
And I'm going have to look at what that word
is because that must be some form of a cordaway.
But that's my understanding. So I'll bring that up to you,
and I apologize for not knowing exactly what that is,
because remember when I'll just sindo all the kardaway and
everyone said it wasn't quawai, it was a khaka hole.
So there we go. So the difference is, I think

(04:03):
the one that they'll be presented with is the one
with the bird feathers. So I apologize if I've got
that wrong. At least've attempted it. But here there we go.
I think the cordaways flax and the and the the
kaka who is with the bird feathers, So that would
be presented and that would be great for the river
because then they go on the boat down the river. Gosh,

(04:25):
it's exciting. So I don't know who they will be.
I'd give it to that trampoline guy. I liked him.
I thought he was good. Always loved that trampoline guy,
even on the reality TV shows. He conducted himself with
the plum and I just like the fact that he's
a trampolinist and no one else does it much. But
he's always good. Every time I said, have interviewed, he

(04:46):
seems cheery. If my kids ever said they want to
go trampolining, I think good on them, because that guy
has made the sport so good. So he's my tick.
Forget his name, it's a d word. So anyway, that's that.
So that's all about the Olympics. By the way, the
thing about the Olympics, there's always some fuss about something,

(05:06):
though not last time. When the Japanese did it went
off with a hitch because remember, for a long time
there were body suits. People were in body suits that
covered their whole body in the pools that are doing
faster times. Now those things are no longer around. But
what is happening this year is some of the athletes,

(05:27):
some of the marathon runners, they have embraced spray on shoes.
So it would be fuss about this. There's spray on
shoes and I don't know if you had a problem
with that, but that's what they reckon. Could be one
of the great shakeups at the Olympics. This time. They're

(05:50):
lighter and they're better. I think they're only worn once,
so they're not very good for the planet. So yeah,
one hundred and seventy grams per shoe. That's a situation.
It's going to be spray. This is deal with a
three D printer and all sorts of stuff. So yeah,
no heel cap laces or tongues. They just spray them

(06:12):
on their lighter and you go quicker. So I imagine
the commentators will mention that a great deal. So there
we go. By the way, bear in mind, there's break dancing,
there is surfing, and there is rock climbing. As the Olympics,
there's sports to bring the young people across. I'll be
excited about those two. Anyway, That's enough from me. You
could tell me about the football, as women's football the
same as men's football. You've got to be out of

(06:33):
twenty three. I don't know about that, but of course
we're all into women's football after the World Cup with
the New Zealand and went so very well. So yeah,
already I'm looking on my Sky channel. I'm already seeing
basketball coming up, diving or maybe it might have started yet,

(06:55):
and judo there'd be a yawn anyway, do you get
in touch by them? As Marcus Hitt on Midnight, So
there's anything you want to ask, or say or do
about the Olympics. I'm kind of committed to helping you
guys watch as much as you can, So if there
are silly questions or straightforward questions, I am here for that.
But yeah, all you need to know at this stage

(07:16):
Paul flag bears won't be announced in the morning and
they'll be given the cloak. There'll be two of them,
I presume, and they go down at the opening ceremony,
which is five point thirty on Saturday morning, and it's
not in the stadium. You go down the river on boats.
I'm not making that up. That's true story, which I'm

(07:36):
very excited about. First time you go down the river
on boats. Should Hamilton beginning the Olympics on the basis
of that, probably, although the wakata might be slightly too
fast flowing, so they must be short of They must
be short of fields for the seven someone says yes,

(07:59):
that's why they play in the main stadium, so as
short of fields, or said another way, they need it
for other events. Will mind you. Every time I've watched
Emily in Paris, I haven't seen any rugby fields. That
must be what it's about. They must be short of paddocks.
So yeah, so we'll have medalists. I'm not being as
confident enough to think we're going to be in there anyway,

(08:21):
So enough from me, And someone also says traditionally a
sevens tournament lasts two days. Hey, by the way, I've
got three or four things I want to talk about tonight,
and just actually I want to talk quickly right as
a joiner to what we talked about last night, and

(08:49):
that's about bands. Last night we were talking about The
Grateful Dead. But I've just been watching a podcast before
I came into work about bands and music. The podcast
is called The Rest Is Entertainment and what was very
interesting I think you'll find this interesting is that in

(09:09):
the UK charts, bands have completely disappeared. Yeah, so in
the eighties and nineties the two thousand and twenty tens,
the majority of the number ones of every year slots

(09:30):
in the UK Top forty were held by bands, whether
be back in the days of Dexias, Midnight Runners or
n Sync or whatever. It was always the way. But
what this podcast points out is in the first years
of this decade, which is almost five years, the number
one single has been held by a band only three times.

(09:51):
I haven't thought about that. You don't kind of know
what's gonna You don't know what's you don't know what's
disappeared until it's disappeared. But yeah, it's all kind of
solo musicians or duos or stuff like that. So we
all go on about bands from the past, but there's
very few bands these days when it comes to music
and artists. I suppose that's because most people just do
it in their bedroom on laptops. So there you go.

(10:12):
I don't know what you want to say about that,
but I thought it was very interesting, just disappeared like that.
No one quite knows why. But that's not the music
anymore anyway, Marcus, good evening. There is there is no
age restriction women's football Olympics. The men's team restrict on
a twenty three, but a team can have three players
over the age of twenty three. Thank you very much
for all that, Marcus. Lisa Carrington and Hayden Wild for

(10:36):
flag bearers and the sevens has played in the middle
of a running track, so already are upbeat. By the way,
if you can't watch sky Sport to see the Olympics,
a lot of it's on sky Open, which is the
old prime, So go there you can buy a sky
pass for thirty five dollars which gives you all the
events that you want, and then you get that on

(10:58):
your phone. Then you chrome cast that to your TV.
Boom Bob's your uncle Marcus did the Brindwins today. The
main slip that went would have been forty to fifty
feet high, but they have cameras up there now to
keep an eye on the biggest cuts. Good idea. That's
from Sue anyway. Oh, the other thing I really want

(11:20):
to talk about tonight because oh, by the way, for
those people that ordered cookery books for the Bluff Community
cookery book, Stuart iron Ruck, you're a fundraiser. Those cookery
books have been printed. Vanessa was in the lounge wrapping
them before I came to work, and they'll be posted

(11:41):
out tomorrow. In fact, we actually had meat balls from
one of the recipes from the cookbook for to night
for a good and yeah, quite interesting. The old cookbook
is a fundraiser, the first one I've been involved with
or that was kind of slightly tangentile tangential. So one

(12:02):
of the first discussions I'd like to know tonight from you.
You've all been through the school or had children to
school or grandchildren at school. Great school fundraisers and disastrous
school fundraisers. So I'm sure in the seventies there was
plenty of wine and cheese evenings that went way bad.

(12:23):
But anyway, if youve got the interesting entriest to say
about that, I'd love to hear from you. School fundraisers.
That's the topic for the start. And the fact that
bands have disappeared nowhere in the charts anymore, gone, absolutely gone.
Now why would that be? That's an off mic moment. Oh,

(12:43):
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Oh, by the way, I
think the cook someone says, how much for cookbox? And postage? Please?
How much for cook I think Vanessa's I think we're
paying for the postage. I don't think we're too concerned
about that. I think we're just excited you wanted to
buy them. So I think we we're going to be
about five bucks eats. But that's on us. I think
that's the way it works. Oh, eight hundred eighty sady

(13:05):
nine school fundraisers went well, school fundraisers that went bad,
and the death of bands and Olympic questions. But ye,
bearing in mind, in the next two weeks is going
to be a lot of Olympics talk back because they're
kind of those events that take hold of people. Why
is there no one there? Why do we do this
while we're winning medals, while we're winning so many What

(13:25):
happened to this sport? Why don't we do this? Where's
our breakdancing team, where's our mountain climbers? All that sort
of stuff. Very interesting? What about the cloak? Why they're
wearing those who's holding the flag while they're holding their
flag that way. Oh and the other thing you need
to know, and I went on and on about this
last night, is that when it comes to the order

(13:49):
the teams will go down the river, Greece is always
first because they were the inventor of the Olympics. And
then the teams come down the river in alphabetical order
accord to the host language. So the hosts of France,

(14:11):
so it'll be in French. So South Africa comes down
fourth because in French their name is Africa des Sourt
and we are Newville's Alorn, so we're after Norway, and
interesting enough Norway and French must be Norway. How countries
have different names in different languages freaks me out every

(14:32):
time I think of that. Anyway, eight hundred and eighty
Teddy nine ninety twenty one past sex school fundraises, the
best and worst you've been involved with. That's what I
want to talk about tonight. And the fact that bands
no longer exist. We've seen the back of it. You
get a bass player, get a guitarist, you get a drummer.

(14:53):
Your former band not anymore. Marcus, how long do they
play twisting by the pull at the swimming or diving events? Yeah,
it's for a good question, and they will do that.
I remember how terrible the British Olympics were, sort of
mister Bean and sort of the Queen and all that ghastly. Anyway,

(15:15):
twenty two past eight oh, eight hundred and eighty eight
ten eighty. The French, I think will be much more sophisticated. Ah,
back at you. All the lines are free, looking forward
to you and put. You might have questions about the
Olympics or comments to make about that too. The thing
you are excited about, I don't know how big a
deal the spying of there's just football. They spy, don't
they I'll be quite flatted. But you might want to

(15:37):
mention that as well, but the coach and analysis was
sent home. Here we go after twice spying on the
team anyway, get in touch twenty five past eighth, eight
hundred eighty ten nine text there we go, yeah, phel yeah.

(16:01):
So if you got that, of course you've always gets
home before it starts at that poor woman. We're not
that poor woman, but the British woman with a horse
and the head coach step down from her role. Well,
let's hope that does affect the team. They play very badly,

(16:21):
but you might have some talks about that, discussions about
that and fundraisers. The skill fundraisers are good and the bad.
Keep those texts coming through. Two people, bouncy guys, Dylan Schmidt,
thank you, he's my choice for the poor bearer, for
the flag bearer. Thanks deb Free Important Marcus bands for

(16:42):
Marcus bands have disappeared for two reasons. One social media,
which is a solo pursuit to the high cost of
a band recording using computers and loops. Listen to the
eighties and nineties bands like Bonjo V which each individual
drumhead microphone listened to the rubbish today that's from Bruce

(17:04):
No bands. It's the music industry. If you're a label executive,
you'd much rather deal with one person and have all
your labeled session players just play the instruments for them.
There's thousands of talented and modern bands at the moment.
They are just mostly ignored by mainstream music companies because
a superstar rapper a woman can sing and make them
ten times as much with ten times as essl. So

(17:27):
it sounds to be like sort of the do it
yourself nature of music's disappeared and the corporations don't like bands. Wow, anyway,
you might want to comment on that, and also to
school fundraisers. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Marcus,
perhaps a name changed to our Tiera might work. Would
be at the front of the parade, Luke, Yes, we
would be. We wouldn't quite be at the front of

(17:49):
the parade if our name is ah Tierroa. And don't
call me on that, but I thought that was also
an alternative name for musical and I got that one
wrong anyway, don't get too triggered by that, by the way, people,
But yeah, if we work called ar Ti, we'd be
in early. We wouldn't be in first because Afghanistan would

(18:10):
be there. Well, the men of Afghanistan, don't they let
the women compete? And then of course there'd be others
that are above us in the alphabetical Lord, I just
can't work out where the listers it would go. Afghanistan,
Africa would go, Greece, the refugee team, Afghanistan, South Africa, Albania, Algeria, Germany,

(18:36):
Alamande and Dora, Angola, Antigua and barbado A Tierro, then
Saudi Arabia. But we're going as New Zealand, so that
will be that will be different anyway, how you're going

(18:56):
for who wants to give you yell tonight? Your school?
For the successful school fundraises you had are involved with. Yeah,
oh that's right. But Atlanta, that guy there was that bomb,
wasn't there? Remember that there was that bomb and the
security guard phoned him then they charged him. Oh there's

(19:16):
a good text. In nineteen ninety six at Atlanta, Muhammad
Ali was the torch bearer and the moment was admired
all over theorld. It was a fantastic moment. Was removing
it'd see with Parkinson, but the pride and the yeah,
that was great. Now we have a fifty three odd
rapper with the name of Snoop Dogg doing the job.
What a joke. I like the fact that Snoop Dog's

(19:37):
doing and I think that shows don't know what it shows.
Marcus britpop and emo punk rock were the last two
sub genres of rock that still had bands getting number ones,
but not since twenty ten have any mainstream bands had relevance. Coldplay,

(20:01):
food Fighters, and others that were popular in the two
thousands have either changed this sound of fit modern pop
or just play legacy to us. You think you're right,
So bands have disappeared. No one realized. It's like rollerblading.
All the lines are free eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty nine nine texts the Olympics, bands disappearing and school fundraisers.

(20:23):
That's three for Starter, Nelson and sandwich boards checking a
fourth topic atcher always comes up. There's always some local
council decides to get rid of sandwich boards and it's
never resolved. There's always someone too rightly so from the
Blind Foundation says they're an obstacle for people walking. There's

(20:43):
retailers that say that's no one going into and there's
people that bring sandwich boards in. It out. I don't
know anyway, you might want to mention that as well.
I don't know how bad it is. And Nelson the
parrot the CBD is dying. What do I think of
sandwich boards. I don't like the name. I don't know
why they called sandwich boards. It looked like a sandwich.

(21:04):
It looked like an a frame house. Hint. But get
in touch. My name's Marcus. Welcome Hitill twelve. Anything else
you want to check into the mix, it would be
good to hear from you, and I'll keep you updated
with news from New Zealand and around the world.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Woo.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
You remember at Lanta ninety six that was the Muhammad Ali.
That was the what so nineteen eighty four Los Angeles
there was a guy that came in on the jetpack
to open it up. Ninety six was Muhammad Ali and
the bombing. I'm just trying to remember all the great
moments of the Anyway, if we change our name, we'd
be next to butt in front of the Aussies. That's right.

(21:47):
But get in touch if you want to talk Marcus
Till twelve. As I say, anything else you want to
bang on about tonight beautiful, get in touch. Oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine nine two de text.
If you've got breaking news where you are, let us know.
I'll do what I can to work out what's happening
around the world too. And there is rugby seven's but

(22:10):
it's about half past twelve, one o'clock in the morning,
so yeah, it might be worth staying up. And the
women's football is like three o'clock in the morning, so
be a part of that. And I'm all across the
Olympics of the other scandals that. I mean, it's a
day and a half until the opening ceremony, but there's
a couple of days of action before that happens. So

(22:32):
what I'm saying is events have already started. Ooh, now
there's something else you want to mention and talk about
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Oh now there's an
alternative theory to Donald Trump that he may not have
been shot. Oh, that's going to confuse things, isn't it.

(22:56):
I'm just kidding up to see the speed with this myself.
I'm just trying to read the article about what's going
to happen. Why wouldn't been shot? No, it's well done.
The article I can't give you that information. Maybe it

(23:17):
was some sort of ricochet or something. By the way,
I see that his deputy pick jd Vance has been
widely criticized, has not been suitable and not a winning combination.
So there's also the chance for the next three months, Trump,

(23:39):
being who he is, probably gets rid of having get
someone else as the vice president pick. So all the
lines are pretty nice to hear from your texts. I've
got plenty of those, and there's some good ones. But
if you don't want to talk on here, and if
these topics aren't you liking them, there's something else you
want to me should feel judy bound to jump in with.
I don't have a problem with that. I can't always
make you talk about what I want to talk about.

(24:00):
Someone has said, though, what about this, right, Marcus? It's Jamie.
I rang about AI the other Since then, I've been
thinking about religion and AI and God, and I think
I've now invented my own religion with a far more
plausible backstory than Christianity or any religion. If I can
call later and you're interested, I'd like to air it
with you.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Chat.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
GPT tells me it's not a theory it's been informed
of before, I could be the first to think of it.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
So later on tonight, depend on how we go, I
might get a new religion updated. By the way, I
didn't manage to fix my torch. That'd be of interest
to you also. But we are talking about what happened
to bands while they've disappeared. Why they called sandwich boards
and school fundraisers. So go you if you want to

(24:53):
talk about those things. If there's something else good Marcus.
I've been discussing the demise of band during the week
with my twenty seven year old son DJ, who claims
listening to the top forty modern tracks as a bogus
way to see what people are listening to. Half my
friends couldn't name a single track in the top forty,

(25:15):
yet they're all music heads. The modern state of pop
music is so corrupted by money and need for popularity
and going viral on TikTok that most of the artists
are one hit wonders where've been planted there by the label,
who would spend millions to get them right air play
and TV interviews, et CETERA pretty good point. And I'm

(25:36):
not across music at all. I'm not across TikTok so.
I've got no idea what's going on. So yeah, fair enough.
I know that these people, you know, are always writing
songs in their bedrooms during COVID and so only the
top of the hit parade. Then you don't hear from
them again. Market's Marcus welcome, Hey K to Marcus, tell

(25:58):
you good, Thank you, Mark great Hey.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
Just touching on the solo artists be more popular than beans.
It's kind of when you mentioned that I don't ask
you talked more about it with anyone, and that they
had a couple of a couple of little theories and
wondered how if they would resonate with you. I just
said you mentioned TikTok so one of obviously one of
them was that social media aspect, you know, a lot

(26:23):
more accessible for a solo artist rather than trying to
get a band together and promote themselves that way. Is
that more economical for publishers and record companies?

Speaker 5 (26:36):
You know?

Speaker 7 (26:37):
I kind of thought that.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Because I don't even know what I don't even know
what happens with the whole, with the whole, like kids
getting together and finding a band practice room, if that
can still happens or with a housing crisis, and you
know that those opportunities aren't there anymore. I mean there
might be real practical reasons that people haven't got the
space or the sort of parents to ferry them around

(27:01):
to do it.

Speaker 6 (27:02):
Yeah, well that's that. And you know, for a record
company to fly someone here in there, it's going to
be cheap if it's just a solo artist. And maybe
that that's there thinking as well, they're just going to
invest more into that, do more of them rather than
a band.

Speaker 7 (27:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, I always thought that bands got together in the
school band practice room and started picking our instruments and
performing that way. I always thought that was a bit
but maybe they just all on computers on pro tools
running music that way.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
Now Yeah, well perhaps, but maybe people aren't appreciating that
the young people are making good music in the school
rehearsal rooms, and maybe they're not as accessible as what
they were because the people are going to visit or
watching them play gigs. It's yeah, it's a bit of
a I'd say it's a bit of a crisis what

(27:50):
you're discussing.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
I look more into it. Thank you, Mark, nice to
hear from you. Scott Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 8 (27:57):
May there go good Scott, Hey, I talking about music,
like you know, all the men falling off the wagon.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Now.

Speaker 9 (28:09):
I'm not sure if you're aware, but a lot of
artists these days and their producers can actually buy streams
from bots. Okay, so say some box farm overseas, they'll
pay them money and they'll give them fake views on
their songs so that pumps their songs to the top.
So hear, these songs might be on top, but they're

(28:31):
not actually on top from legitimate streams. A lot of
the fake a lot of songs you hear about. I
watched a video about one popular one and Kenlock Lamar
song not like Us. Apparently he bought forty million streams
for it just make it more popular than what I heard.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
But I guess, but I guess I Ken, I mean,
Kendrick Lamar would know it was a good song to
spend that much money to get it up above the rest,
I suppose. So that doesn't necessarily mean that it's not
a good song. I guess he just kind of jumped across. Yeah,
it's weird the way it is.

Speaker 9 (29:10):
It's just I guess they have the money, they have
the name that it just keeps them up top and
keeps keeps like I guess, the little independent guy sort
of at Bay.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
I guess.

Speaker 9 (29:21):
I mean, I'm nobody tinfoil ahead about it.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
But no, but I look, but you you will have
seen those videos with these these huge rooms and places
like China where there's just thousands of cell phones all around,
people just going along playing stuff to get the hits,
like hit factories or whatever they're called, like like factories.
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 7 (29:43):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 9 (29:44):
It happens not just on the streaming, it happens on
on Facebook and everything. Another thing to touch on about
the bands is it depends where you're looking. If you
look into the metal heavy metal metal side of things,
there's cult phanetics behind their bands. Are you know there
might be might be extremely popular, not not everyone's cup

(30:05):
of teeth, but their fans die hard for their bands
that they keep supporting them. Their their genre and their
culture sort of support each other and they keep going
a lot of these metal bands have been around for
twenty thirty years even and they're still going.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
And Scott the other good point is you never hear
of a heavy metal solo artist, do you, Because it
doesn't work, does it?

Speaker 9 (30:27):
Because realistic A lot of people hate on it, but
it is. It takes a lot of musical talent for
those men, the drums, the guitar, the vocals, just to
learn for them to scream. It takes some of them
years to be able to protect.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
That nice to hear from your Scott thank you. Always
like when someone says not a tinfoil and he didn't
tell her because a tinfoil he guy either, Evening Johnet's Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 10 (30:51):
Hello Marcus. Look what I'm about to prattle on about is.

Speaker 5 (30:59):
God.

Speaker 10 (31:01):
It's all right, I'm erazy too. But what gets me
about modern music is that it's they talk about bands now.
I grew up when all we knew was the soloist.
We knew about Elvis Presley, but we hardly knew a
thing about the Jordanaires. We knew about Connie Francis, Zillah Black,

(31:26):
Dion Warwick al those and they could sing. And but
now it's all about bands and.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
No, John John. The point we're making is it's not
about bands anymore. That in the last thirty years, bands
have disappeared. It's now about solo artists. So bands have
gone so that there's been, there's been in the British
charts in the last this decade, there have only been

(31:58):
three bands that have been at number one. Right, So
bands have disappeared. That's the whole point of the discussion.
So you've got your wish, you got your Elvis and
your Connie Frances are back. It's all about It's all
about the individual. This is what you.

Speaker 10 (32:13):
Want, yes, and it's I grew up with music that
had a tune to it.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Oh but you sound but this this is not good stuff,
you're saying, John, because out of all your years, you've
wasted your ready two years. You should have adapted. Rather
change yourself or change the world.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
I've given that, Mica.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Ever, don't give up just getting some of the new
music and tep along to it. You can't bring a
Kendle for Elvis still cheaper.

Speaker 10 (32:46):
I hope there are one or two other listeners out
there that might identify with what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Oh, I'm sure they do. I just don't want to
talk to them. I talk back, I mean talk back
has a tough reap anyway, gunnering up and say g
things were better on the old days, like nostalgia. Oh,
hell anyway and fun. What sort of fundraises did you
have at school? John, He's gone, just saying to himself anyway. Oh,

(33:17):
by the way too, what will happen at the Olympics.
This is my prediction. There'll be one athlete that's terrible
and will become internationally famous, like Eddie the Eagle, or
of course there was the eel, Eric the Eel, and
that happens. But what will happen this time will be

(33:37):
the TikTok Olympics. Things will be going viral, things will
be going all TikTok. It'll be memafied and TikTok. That's
good or bad? Actually, hey, it's just just before I
get to the news and we are talking the fact
that bends have disappeared. I'm not saying it's a good
or a bad thing. I just think it's probably something

(33:57):
that we need to observe and acknowledge. We look at
the big artists like each Sharon and Taylors Swift, and
they're all solo artists, don't they. Again, John was saying,
like Connie Francis and Elvis, So maybe bands were an aborration.
I've got a lot of offers and people emailing me
about my torch. I spoke last night at some length

(34:19):
at my frustration that torches just breaking us so hard
to fix. But there was a caller last night who
rung up and said to me, why don't you just
buy a new one? And I can't believe that he
thought that was the answer, because I thought the whole

(34:43):
point and the whole way that we were striving to
go was to buy things that would last a lifetime,
so when they broke, you'd fix them and you wouldn't
need to mind the materials to make new ones. Is
that not what everyone's trying to do well the end
of fast fashion. You want clothes that you can repair,
clothes you can place. The zips for torches you can

(35:05):
replace and fix. I want to go every way with that.
I want to go with a toaster. I want to
go with the kettle. I want to go with the
torture on everything that is going to last forever. If
it breaks, you yourself can just fix it. I feel terrible.
Anything goes to the dump, to the dump, to the dump,
to dump, dump dump. That's the way we need to live.

(35:26):
I don't want to be preachy, because you in that
preacher you know one likes you. But anyway, Pete, Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 11 (35:33):
There, Marcus. I just want I'll give you a wring,
a bit of your torture. You didn't get it going
on the end.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
No, well, one way, Pete, Pete, Pete. One guy said
they had a kill switch for travel, yet to push
the button for five seconds. I did that. Still nothing.

Speaker 11 (35:51):
Yeah, those weed lights, I shouldn't say it. I was
going to give you a full last like that one too,
and it's there's got three lights. I don't want to
say it to you.

Speaker 12 (36:01):
But what.

Speaker 11 (36:05):
Fishing little safe casting?

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Not No, not so much.

Speaker 11 (36:11):
You have a table box. If you and there's certain
items it don't work, you put it on the end
of your line and use it as a sinker.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
I thought you were going to say that this is
an expensive this is an expensive, high quality torch. It's
supposed to last forever.

Speaker 12 (36:27):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 11 (36:28):
But sometimes the lead lights what they're saying about they
mean to be the bee's knees, but I'm afraid to
say they are the bee's knees. The old bulbs you
just took them out. They're getting they're not They said
they're going to replace the balls they're going to be
a lot cheaper, and that they're going to last long.
I'm afraid to say we've been seconded into that, and

(36:48):
I reckon we've been ripped off. I reckon I should
go back.

Speaker 13 (36:50):
To the old bulbs.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
I'll be happier. I'm going to send it to tight
Lines to see if they can repair it. I spoke
to Vanessa, I said, do you remember reports She's I
think it was for mister Minute. What a terrible name.
But anyway, I don't know which one I think it
might have been in. I'm not saying it's anything wrong
with mister Bin. I'm just trying work out when we
bought it. I think it might have been at Saint Luke's.

(37:12):
Craig gets Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 13 (37:15):
Good you think how's again?

Speaker 5 (37:16):
Tonight? Good?

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Thank you, Craig.

Speaker 13 (37:19):
I was singing about your torch. I never heard the
other one the other night, but I was saying to
you producerly and when I score, I got a job
at Tisco and learned how to repair TVs and microws
and got all the training on that and all that.
But now they seem to be just your own's gone
of throwaway society rather than trying to keep all the
old stuff going. Is it's like we don't need any
more to throw the tific cares. It's another generation's problem

(37:39):
getting new one, which it seems pretty sad really.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Oh, I think we're ahead of the curve. I think
where we're going now is most people now want to
buy quality and stuff they can fix. We've had the
days of cam Out and Briscoes and the warehouse. We
can buy in this stuff and timu. I think what
people now want to buy something once that lasts them
for life, because you'd fix you you'd be shopping like that,
wouldn't you be fixing your own TV and stuff?

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Well?

Speaker 13 (38:06):
Yeah, it's a certain point. But I think the other
problem with the lot of things nowadays is this might
be me, but I think a lot of things seem
to be engineered to break just after the warranty runs out.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
But I know that. But what's seppening now is countries
are mandating that goods need to be that goods need
to be repairable. Yeah, and that's what we want to
be into. I forget which countries, but I've read about it.

Speaker 13 (38:31):
You know, I bottom old valve radio thing from an
antique store a few years ago. Now it's been up
a time research and then got parts from over in
America and some parts over in Jum. You got up
and going again, and it's just got the nice warm
sound to which you don't get from the sterios nowadays.
But it's also the Pride and I had actually getting
it up and going again. It's like the Pride sect Certiffaction.
And then she's saving something that was probably going to

(38:52):
get dumped to something she goes really well and sounds great.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
The thing is, the thing is, I'm trying to google Craig.
I'm listening to I think you're really interesting. It's called
right to repair and the groups that make that the
law and and and everything needs to I don't fully
know the robusters of it, but everything's going to be repairable.

Speaker 13 (39:15):
Yeah, you look like and look at the older day.
Then that sounds it makes me sound old, but and
the old days.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
We probably are old.

Speaker 13 (39:22):
No, no, thank you for that. You look in the
old days and you had fridges that lasted like ten
twenty years or whatever, and then nowadays you don't hear
we hear that. So it's like you think with modern
technology things wouldn't be able to last a little bit
longer than what they head back in the old days
with the seventies and all that.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
But what you need to do, what you need what
you need to do is you need to have bits
at the break that you can pull out, and you
need to have warehouses with new things that the owners
can replace themselves.

Speaker 5 (39:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (39:52):
That's why I quite like places like Jacar here and
the White Kidow. They have spinty bulbs and switches and
connectors and wires and everything and all that. So something breaks,
you can normally go in there and the start are
pretty handy and go I'm looking for this, and they
can dually help you. And you can find boats in
this up the area and looks at yourself, which because
you better satisfaction in life too, I suppose.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
But our people feel people walk a bit taller when
they fix their own kettle. Yeah, he used to go.
You go to the supermarket and buy a new element.
You'd screw that in and your kidler go, I love that.

Speaker 13 (40:24):
Yeah, And you go look what I've done, you know,
and you feel it's really.

Speaker 14 (40:28):
To talk back.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I've really.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
No, I find you're right to repair there were That's
what it's all about about the time we talked about that.
We're on guys, the Olympic's Right to Repair back at you,
So yeah, how are you people? Welcome on him? As
Marcus good Evening Hittle twelve. What I do want to
talk about just following on from this damn torch, and
I don't fully know how to laser focus on this topic.

(40:55):
I would like to talk about the right to repair.
And I'd like to know and talk to you about
some of the products you are buying that you think
they are going to last for a lifetime, unlike my torch.
What are some of the things that you are buying
with the belief that this will be the last one
you'll buy and that they will last forever, because very
few products like that. I don't know, so I'll be

(41:18):
curious that are your experience with buying stuff and buying
stuff that's deliberately built so actually people can fix it,
because and this movement goes right to cars and stuff.
A lot of cars. Of course, there's privileged information you
can't get unless you've got the diagnostic machines. You can't
fix your own car. So what the right to repair

(41:38):
movement is trying to advocate. Is it people? Is that
goods are sold to people can fix them. That's what
I'm not about tonight. So yeah, I'd like to hear
from you about that. I think it's a really interesting topic.
I'd ring, particularly when it comes to drys. I think
clothes drys should be fairly easy to repair because just

(42:00):
a drum on rollers and I think sometimes the drum
comes off. We've fixed those, but I don't know. That's
what goes wrong is the motor. And you shall be
able to slot a new motor in Marcus. If you
want a kettle or toaster that can be fixed by
a durali it brand as they can be fixed Marcus.

(42:23):
John Dare, the American company won't allow anyone not tied
to John dead have the computer program to just or
fix their gear, forcing you to only be able to
use them to fix your stuff. You cannot do a
thing on their gear without the programs. Yeah, that's bad
and I'd be boycotting John Deare. And I am in
the market for a tractor. I'll get one. I'll fix myself.

(42:50):
John AT's Marcus. Good evening and welcome Oho Matte.

Speaker 15 (42:54):
Thank you sorry first time caller.

Speaker 7 (42:56):
Oh nice to hear from you, John, longtime listener.

Speaker 15 (42:59):
But yeah, and I find this topic quite interesting. So
we bought a big screen black TV quite a while
ago now, and you know how you have to buy
the They say you buy the extended warranty to take
it out to like three years for mechanical faults in that.

Speaker 16 (43:17):
Yes, so we bought.

Speaker 15 (43:19):
That, and we said, to know, what do we need
this for? Surely the TV is going to last longer
than you know, five or ten years, because the old
ones used to. And he said, no, mate, they're own.
They're only built to last two to three years these days.
So get to three year warranty for an extra two
hundred dollars and then when it it will breakdown within
that time and then they'll replace it because it's a

(43:41):
mechanical fault. And I was thinking, this guy is full
of rubbish. But long story short, we've we've had three
TVs in the last nine years, and each time we
have bought that three year extended warranty.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
And each each time you've used it, did you say,
each time they've they've died at three years? Is that right?

Speaker 15 (44:02):
Died just under the three years? Actually, yeah, one of
them died less than two years, but the other one's
lasted almost of the three years, and it gets the
last one we had that they just start getting in
the lines and as soon as it happens, it's on
its way out. So I thought that was really interesting
that it even.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
And they honored the warranty and gave you a new
one to day.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
Correct.

Speaker 15 (44:28):
Yes, because it's a mechanical fault, because.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
It's not what you want, because you want a TV
that can be fixed, because that's a lot of waste,
because only you've got the TV going away three times,
You've got all the poly starring, it comes in the cardboard,
all that stuff. Mind you, TVs get better and better,
don't they. You wouldn't want to still have the TV
from the nineteen fifties and keep repairing that because it
be a tiny twins black and white, wouldn't it Exactly?

Speaker 15 (44:51):
Yeah, so it's and will it has replaced? You know,
they think someone out and he does the checks and everything,
signs it off and then yeah, they're like, okay, here's
the number the core. We'll send you an email. You're
go into the shop and you slick a new one.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
So and that's nine years. You had three of them.
That's crazy. Nice to hear from you, John, Thank you
for calling. Radu. It's Marcus. Welcome, good evening, Kai Marcus.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
How are you? Hi? H I is uh Mahaga still called?

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Look, it's been a nice day today, the first good one,
the first day that felt like spring. It was really invigorating.
And it's the first day since the middle of April.
I haven't had the fire going.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Oh go on, you go on you hi. Look, I'm
I'm all school stuff. My wife and I were going
to the landfills and checking all the rubbish for the
previous scholar. I pick up from the skid been a
one meter long let's scream TV. Okay, I take it

(46:00):
home just to say, what mart is? And what's just?
A fuse was blowing? Replace the fuse and it's still going?

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Okay, well, okay, is it?

Speaker 3 (46:09):
What?

Speaker 2 (46:10):
What? What brand was it was?

Speaker 3 (46:14):
If I'm not wrong, either Panasonic TV or LG something
I can't tell for sure.

Speaker 16 (46:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (46:22):
And was it?

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Was it easy to excess where the fuse was and
to get a replacement fuse?

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Oh, look, was very easy because most of them. I'm
not electronic guy again, I'm just a handyman, right. I
don't want to tell you stories because I'm just ordinary
handy man, right you. I take off the back cover
and most of the stuff with modules, which is just
plug and plug out. Yeah, I just unplugged the stuff.

(46:49):
I saved the power. It coming was an easy fix. Yes,
my daughter laptop. I replaced a battery on the leftop. Yes,
I'm going to buy it for bib tech new battery
and I put a job done. It's working still now. Yeah.
Look when interesting stuff for Marcus. My wife going and
bought probably six old brass uh chandeliers, you know, for

(47:14):
the for the lighting we have at the old house.
You want to give it all? When I pull apart,
everything has a stamp on it with the past number.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
Marcus.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
That's what you want now we're now we're talking, right now,
we're talking.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
That's that's the stuff which I love it. Yeah. I
have ah that's a mid Minster. I repair it and
I fixed it going for years, all right, I find
the old lawnmowers. It's not much the old stuffage builds
the last.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
You should do your own TV show, right, do you
say I'm compelling? Did you get your daughters? Did you
get your LA's daughter's laptop and a skip.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Bin No she had she wanted through for skip in
and I took it. Said let's see what the story
is not holding the power. Then when I pull apart
at the cover and I have to admit this watch
the YouTube to pull a part right.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
That YouTube's the case.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
And I said, oh what's easy stuff and the old
battery going to auto BB tech. I needed something like that.
They order forcers coming to Wellington.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Job done, Hey raddu with the old t V the
flat screen and it might have been Penasonic, it might
have been LG. Did you require just ordinary tools to
get the back off of it? Some special tools that
just the company can use because.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
The Philip screw drivers a small Philip screw driver. Yes,
love that love that's what That's what they did. Open
the back and then say when a power coming, to
see if it's coming? I says, I just tried to
say I have the power mate on that you you
know for the power and I saw it's coming here,
nothing out and was a small abuse on on a circuit.

(48:59):
That's what's pure luck. Okay, where'd you go to buy?

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Where'd you got to buy a fuse.

Speaker 16 (49:03):
Ra GB A five.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Gb uh.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
GB a fight. It's in in Warrington.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
JB. High Fi. Hey, Radu, rad I'm going to town
with your names. I've never spoke and nailing that with Radu?
Is that that that's the way it goes, Radu, that's right.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Yep, yep, that's the one.

Speaker 15 (49:30):
That's the one, right, rad.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Do you want to fix my torch? Ha ha, yes, oh,
I'll get your dress just yet, Rada. We're talking about
the right to repear. This is that this is a
weather sweet spot for a topic which has been a
day or two.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
Ge.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
What do you call Radu's TV show how To with Radou?
I reckon it'd be the answer. Marcus. I would expect
the basket and my dishwasher not to go rusty. Many
pieces have broken off and dishes don't stand up. Crazy
for something that's in water to go rusty, Marcus. Any

(50:14):
Helleburg tent are expensive for the last of lifetime, so
you won't ever fix it. I've never heard of Helleberg.
Although I did notice that my tent that I've got
love and the tent it came with a spare bit of
metal tubing to repair the pole. Well, boy, I'm that
excited about that. I've lost the bit, but just the

(50:34):
fact that it came with it. I thought, that's it.
That's what I want, a tent that can be repaired.
I kind of feel that. There's an interview with Jack Tame.
He said that he's into like things for life. Is
that what he's about. I don't know Jack particularly well,
but I think he's He's on a Reddit feed, of
course he is. That's where he gets all his I'll

(50:59):
have to read the art. And he's into something for lifetime.
Like who knows these millennials what they're up to, but
that's what he's doing. He's buying stuff for life. It's
like what TV he's got. Now, gone back and read
Jack Tames article and he's Inland Herald. What he's into
is buy it for life, for practical, durable and quality

(51:20):
made products that are made to last. We're with you, Jack,
that's what you would do a show about that, a
weekly show about how to appear stuff? Buy it for life?
And my tear. I don't know what else I've bought
for life that's lar my wheelbarrows that are particularly proud
of my wheelbarrow and even got stolen made the cover
of the Bluff Beacon. But my torture. I thought I

(51:43):
was buying that for life worked once. Good evening, Mike,
it's Marcus.

Speaker 14 (51:48):
Welcome evening, Marcus. How are you ten.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Out of ten?

Speaker 14 (51:52):
This in Mike, I just wanted to congradulate Raji because
there's not many people that you're here in texting things.
I'm old school.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Welcome, Welcome to the old school.

Speaker 14 (52:09):
Yep, I'm fairly old. I just appreciated somebody could take
a modern piece of machinery apart and texit me and
old Vauxhall.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Mike, how old school are you? Are you in your.

Speaker 14 (52:23):
Seventies late sixties?

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Because I think these days are you familiar with YouTube?

Speaker 14 (52:33):
Well put it this, I'm homeless, eleven a tent when
my two dogs. Technology is my cell phone, but I
grew up faxing shit ry a battle language, because.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
I think these days you can find where about Switch Island?
Are you in, Mike, North Island?

Speaker 14 (52:49):
No, I'm in Kenterbury.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Okay, I think these days you can almost I mean,
you say your old school, but actually the modern circumstance
have enabled us to actually repair pretty much anything because
there's always a YouTube video on how to do it.

Speaker 14 (53:03):
And yes, you have technology.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
But I appreciate.

Speaker 14 (53:06):
She aated the means seeing what he said is like God,
everyone trees every single way.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
I think what Radia will be missing is the organic
rubbish collections because that's catting it for guys like Rado,
because that's where you get everything. I knew a guy
that was making his living out of the inorganics. I
was out walker. I met a guy I knew him
from other circumstances. Said. The key to the inorganic rubbish collections,
which are no longer around the batteries pay for your guess.

(53:38):
So you know the old batteries in the way and
they go to the scrap metal and that that's where
that you guess guess money. The rest is he was into.
He was into like fifties, nineteen fifties Scandinavian furniture. Here
you go, figure, people just throwing out in the north
sheer of Auckland. Oh quite exciting. DV Marcus, welcome, good.

Speaker 17 (54:04):
Lave them.

Speaker 7 (54:05):
I just picked up for the nine o'clock news break
that Wellington's getting some new trains for the wire Rapper
and the time of the North Line.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
It's controversial Seymour promise the new trains, but now they're
just honoring the old Labor parties agreement for the old ones,
the old replacement ones. So it's not what the people
of the Wider Apple were promised in the election. Is
that what you found too?

Speaker 5 (54:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (54:34):
The carriages that are currently running and they're well over
fifty years old, so they've been to change them soon
before the wheels fall.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah, but did you find that that?

Speaker 4 (54:42):
Then?

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Hang on, did you read what? They're not happy about it? Right?

Speaker 7 (54:46):
I'm still doing a lot of my research on it
right as we speak. But they're shutting the wire rapper
lying down from Christmas Day to the end of the
school holiday. It's twenty six days.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Yeah, that's it up, man.

Speaker 7 (55:02):
That's that's a big shutdown and people have to plan
for that. They're going to re lay the River Taka Tunnel,
which is overdue for it.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
It's a very good line that works well, and I
mean I'd be happy to live in Masters and in commute.
I mean I was up there last year and got
the train and we loved it. Took the kids fantastic.

Speaker 7 (55:21):
I think they've got quite a good service and I'm
actually wondering the ordering. According to the seventy two New
New Rail coaches. I don't think it's enough, because this
is going to be. If you build it, they will come.
I want to get into you.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Want to spend you went to living in Masterton?

Speaker 7 (55:43):
What he did a couple of years?

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Any good?

Speaker 5 (55:47):
Oh?

Speaker 18 (55:47):
No?

Speaker 7 (55:48):
Well, my kids that I all grew up in Carterton
and that was his carditan.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
It's in the rain, it's and in Irain Territory. Remember him,
the self style Cardidan Guru whipping people with about the
thin pipe. Do you remember that guy?

Speaker 5 (56:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (56:03):
Yeah, what he was.

Speaker 7 (56:06):
We had what's the name the first transgender that's right,
member of parliament.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Kay Bay Georgina Bayer and they're getting a statue of
her now.

Speaker 19 (56:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (56:17):
Yeah, So we had a few good people come out
out of that center.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Well you've done your time Caleton.

Speaker 7 (56:26):
Yeah, all over the country. So I usually stay there
long enough for them to throw me out.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
What do you repair these days?

Speaker 9 (56:33):
dB?

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Where I want to get us focused on repairing stuff
and the right to repair and buying stuff that's repearable.
Are you into that?

Speaker 17 (56:41):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (56:41):
But I get in trouble if you caught me your
fingers inside the wall socket. These days, you can lose
your insurance. I mean I used to think nothing of
completely reworrying my house to why to my needs? Like
you know, for what a new wall plugs? We're just
going to run some flecks, wire it all in.

Speaker 13 (57:00):
I'm here and keep myself.

Speaker 7 (57:01):
Twice and then we're done. But if you can't touch
a live it now and saying you who just talk
about there? They catch you even listening around doing anything
other than any with oil and water, the dull and voyage?

Speaker 2 (57:19):
But why should they? Why should they?

Speaker 5 (57:22):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (57:23):
I agree, but they will. And when you've got to
many did many people?

Speaker 2 (57:29):
You're old, you're older than me? Do you did many
people die from dodgy wiring? Was there a real problem
there with it?

Speaker 7 (57:37):
I certainly tried. No, I don't think that lot. But
I think the problem is it's not if you kill yourself.
If it kills one of your house members, they get
a bit showry on it.

Speaker 5 (57:53):
Well.

Speaker 7 (57:53):
I used to rewire my ship regular. I had a
few good wacks out of that.

Speaker 5 (57:59):
Ship.

Speaker 7 (58:01):
Yeah that you still you stan't be a foot on steel?

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Hang on, hang on, Debbie, what sort of what sort
of ship did you have? It's a grandiose word to use.

Speaker 20 (58:10):
It's a technical word.

Speaker 7 (58:11):
It was an excess of twenty meters. Therefore, by a convention,
it's a ship.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
What was it?

Speaker 7 (58:16):
It was twenty six meters, so it's eighty seven feet?

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Is it a fishing vessel or.

Speaker 7 (58:21):
A It was an old mine scree for you all know.
And it was the sea lion that used to live
on the end of Queen's Warp in Wellington a year
or so ago. Think how long ago did he get
a bit there? Second, it's boring and it topped them
three months to salvage it. I was so proud. Don't

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guild put up a fight?

Speaker 5 (58:46):
Yeah it was.

Speaker 7 (58:46):
It wasn't old. It was built a mine scree for
the war, but they turned the war washes they built,
so she wasn't launched until.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
It operation. Was it operational?

Speaker 12 (58:59):
What I owned it?

Speaker 5 (59:00):
It was?

Speaker 7 (59:00):
So he went down the sounds on a number of occasions,
but it got bought. I started to a couple who
brought their toilet up on it, but they didn't leave
the wharf with it, so it fell to disrepair.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
So when were you with it?

Speaker 7 (59:15):
I owned her from two thousand to about halfway through
two thousand and four.

Speaker 5 (59:20):
I brought it off of.

Speaker 7 (59:23):
Ed mcfalland and Co. He was a guy who's to
run a magazine in Willington.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
You better write a book.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
Was that?

Speaker 2 (59:33):
When is that? When the is that? When the boat
from the is it the same place on the wolf
Whether the boat from King Kong was.

Speaker 7 (59:43):
Yes, Ken Kong's boat was down at Mirrorba.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Of course, Okay, yep, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 7 (59:49):
Whereas I was on the main wharves as well, So yeah,
lots of many was at one stage she was purple
or lilac, to be exact. And when I had it,
it was either gray or rusty, one of the other,
depending on which the state of ready I could pour
into it. Thirsty huh, thirsty fifty meters an hour at

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nor pruising speed.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Yeah, that's a lot in it.

Speaker 7 (01:00:16):
Yeah, well I had a detroit to it so that
they are hungry diesel, and I also had a diesel
driven anyway. I didn't have the modes you could run
solar power and stuff, so yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
I had.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
We might need a book, dB, I'd read it, or
a movie. Not many people I know they've owned a ship.
Boy nice to hear from you get in touch eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. A lot of people are
texting about dishwashers going rusty for goodness sake, exciting handball,

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Women's Handball Netherlands and goal of fifteen all you think
they'd give the goalkeepers more pads like on the face,
but oh no, chuck the ball each other with gay abandon.
It's like dodgeball. But I don't quite weird Anyway. Every
year we think handball is the sport, then we get
sick of it after about ten games. Anyway, not a

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backing and throwing back and forward, Marcus, Can I get
a shout out to the beaker at Flying Saucerer night
shift doing the money tell me a bit more about that,
but shout out to you. What is that Marcus? Any
Hilleberg tenth? They're expensive, It will lasted lifetime. Do you
want to fix it? Gold Standard Hiking Tents Evening Brucett's

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Marcus Welcome.

Speaker 21 (01:01:40):
Wellho, Marcus, this is my first time I've actually spoken
to you. I think I might have solved your torch problem.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
Now.

Speaker 21 (01:01:49):
I work with the community with the police Community Patrol
for about I don't know, fifteen or so years, and
in our kit they gave us a torch that was
actually it was magnetic. It was a wind up one
in other words, on the barrel of the actual tour.
It was quite a big torch. You just pulled out
the little lever and you wound it up only about

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like here a dozen at a time. You sort of
wound it up and then you put it back together
and that was the It had no batteries. That was
actually powered by magnetic magnetic magnetic fields somehow, I don't
know quite how it worked. And they had only the
bulbs in it, but absolutely perfect. That means you always
had a torch that was always nice and bright and

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as to say, and you never had to replace batteries.
That didn't have batteries. They just have this little wind
up thing. You can't buy them and I don't know
where you get them from. And but any how, and
it had the led bulbs, so everything was perfect and
you always, you know, always had a good, nice bright
torch to use in our ct H.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Well, were you parading the streets?

Speaker 21 (01:02:59):
No, No, I was actually for about fifty For fifteen
years I was in in a patrol car. We'd go
at it night. I'd go at at eight o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
In the morning with a wind up torch.

Speaker 21 (01:03:13):
Well they now clip. They gave us a torch, and
on the barrel of the torch you just sort of
unclipped this little bit of that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Well, it's just you know, I know, I wind up
torch works, but I thought if you're a community patrol,
they'd give you a proper torch. I can just see
you in the passage. You see winding the whole time.
It feels undignified.

Speaker 16 (01:03:32):
No, well it will.

Speaker 21 (01:03:33):
It was fully about at night, of course, for about
one or two in the morning, and it just meant that,
you know, I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Don't want I don't want to wind up. I don't
want to I just want my torch to work again.

Speaker 21 (01:03:42):
Well, well, these things there's nothing much that can really
go wrong with them, and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Wind torches a lot to go wrong with them. They break.
We've all had bad wind up. Wind up torches and
wind up right as they're a good gimmick, and they
worked during a quake, but you wouldn't rely on them.
See beer grills for the wind up torch.

Speaker 21 (01:04:02):
Well, the ones that we had, well we have been
quite I been quite old because that was in our
kit and they used all the people who went out
at night, you know, in the patrol car, and no,
we found them to be very very good to just yeah,
it was say you've always.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Gott I thought you'd correct what was wrong with my torture.
We're going to tell me an easy fix?

Speaker 21 (01:04:28):
Well, well, well easy fix way is to say, because
the system always worked. I mean you never had to reply,
you never got low in batteries of course, because it
doesn't have batteries.

Speaker 7 (01:04:38):
Yeah, always a.

Speaker 21 (01:04:40):
Nice bright light and especially of course having an early
D vol in it as well. And you only used
to give it an equiped wind up. We're probably only
about ten or so or it does doesn't times just
give it a wine and then you just put it
back on, put the you know, the the little headle
thing back on its barrel, and then you had a
bright light there for you know, for some time it's

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was getting a little bit dull. If you're using it
a lot, you just give it another little one. Would
Johny take his seconds, But at least you either you
always had had a constant, nice bright light.

Speaker 16 (01:05:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Nice to hear from your Bruce. I think the point
was repairing stuff to have to throw it away. I
don't want to throw away my torch. And by another
torch I'll have to throw away because they're never that bright,
the windy ones. But you're nice to hear from you, David.
It's Marcus. Good evening and welcome. Oh hi, Oh yeah, sorry,

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no need to apologize.

Speaker 22 (01:05:41):
Yeah there, Yeah, I had a this has gone back
at it. I had a bosh this washer in Australia
and this is one I and two and a half years.

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I was still under warranty and and they say large.
You know, it was just just felled a bit. So
I got half the money back. Then I went and
bought a fresher and piper one got old Kiwi brand,
which I should have bought the first place. And it's
still gone as far as I know. I mean, I'm

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back here in New Zealand. But it just goes to
show it down. You know, we can produce good, good
stuff in this country and on which we do more
of it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Do you fix it?

Speaker 22 (01:06:44):
No, I'm not there anymore, but it was going when
I left. No, no, the the the boss one went
to the tip and the fresher and pipe was still
gone and it's got to be gone for it. But
it's been too many years now, I think, so they've
got old Fisher and piple, mate, I can't beat him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Yeah, I think it's quite the same now. I think
people would be striving to repeat it, Parkle, but yeah,
I'm hearing it. Thank you, David Keith, Marcus welcome.

Speaker 17 (01:07:17):
Thank you, Marcus, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Are you well, yes, sir, thank you.

Speaker 17 (01:07:22):
A bit of an observation about fixing things and the
well the iniquities and the prices too. I'll give an example.
I'm over seventy spent a lot of my life as
a mechanic, you know, that's sort of repairing engines. That

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was my trade, and oh it was my choice. No, buddy,
I went to school with he trained to become a surgeon.
I hooked up with him at a school reunion and
I buttoned hold him and we sort of compare our

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trades and and the fees that the charge. So, forargument's sake,
my charge out great. As a mechanic, it's forty dollars
an hour, and for that I'll replace rings, bearings, grind fowls,
do a general service. Now, Mike, your rate there's an excessive,

(01:08:31):
well five times that much, and we're essentially doing the
same service. What's the difference.

Speaker 7 (01:08:41):
What he did?

Speaker 17 (01:08:42):
Mark is he did pair me and says, well, Keith,
you're right, I'll do the same service as you, but
I do it when the engine is still running.

Speaker 16 (01:08:54):
You reckon.

Speaker 17 (01:08:54):
That didn't shut me up.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
He's probably spent two years training too.

Speaker 17 (01:09:00):
Yeah, yeah, I would like to do rings and bearings
with the engine running too, but those orders and all
the technical parts of you. So yeah, there's a difference here.
And yeah, I just took his point. I got put
in the place and there was a vehicuse.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Did you We're glad you've been to the school I've
never been to one. Were glad you went to the
school reunion.

Speaker 17 (01:09:25):
We've all seen comments that come out and they're pretty
tried and pretty obviously they got old and she got old. Yeah,
indeed that doesn't look as good as me and Chronicky addicted.
I really want to have here in the backseat of
the Marxeries. No, no, it's a great little Marcus. It's

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a great level of school reunions. But now that there
could be a different topic for you, anot.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
But I presume, I presume the surgeon was probably just
happy without you saying hey, I've got this sort but
you could, you know, sort of trying to work out,
get him to analyze you or something while you're there.

Speaker 17 (01:10:05):
Well, that's the other thing is you don't go along
term score reunion for a free diagnosis.

Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:10:14):
Well we've all got diseases in different parts. And that's
a whole different sensory shoppy thing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
That's from key. Thank you, not a texts Marcus laughing
at out loud at the police issue wind up torch.
What's there? I couldn't believe it, Marcus. I have a
mag like torch. The bulb will stopped working. Do you
know where I can get a new bulb for it.
I took it into a camping store, but they told
me to throw it away and get a new one.
It's a really solid middle talk fifteen years. I love it.

(01:10:43):
But I need to buy the light bulb Okay number
ending in four zero three. If you've got a mag
like torch, if you undo the bottom of the torch
where the springers, and under the bottom of the torch

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and inside the spring is a bit of white foam,
and within that white foam will be a spare bulb.
That is the genius of the maglight. It's already there.
The spare bulb is in the bottom of the torch.

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Marcus probably Timu Sell this torture that Bruce was talking about.
He he Timu Marcus. I bought a three two inch
sam Sung TV the day I retired in November in
twenty fifteen. Have never had a problem. It's still like
you not how long would you get for TV? I
thought you'd get fifteen years, fourteen to ten, right to
repair and finding stuff that's gonna last forever. Yeah, that's

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the way I'd like the world to go. You have
your wedding and you get your stuff, and that's going
to last you the rest of your life. The toaster,
the kettle, I mean, that's what you want. But those
sorts of things that are made well, but with bits
you can put new ones in, like elements. And I
don't necessarily think that I am speaking alone on this.

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I think probably a lot of people would be, you know,
they're sick of actually godness, gracious see, there's people you know,
they've got garage is full of broken down appliance as
they're waiting to get rid of. It's just none of
it's good. Not from a cash point of view, it's
more from a resource point of view, and a waste
point of view and a landfall point of view. Unfortunately,

(01:12:39):
kmar and stuff, they don't care. They just out it goes.
They love it. I love selling a twelve dollar toaster
that lasts six months, but I don't think it's doing
anyone else much good. I can't imagine they're happy factories
where people make the twelve dollars toasters. Image, it's god
forsaken work. Might be wrong, suspect I'm not truck Marcus. Welcome,

(01:13:07):
Hi Marcus.

Speaker 18 (01:13:08):
Yeah, Chuck here mate, here.

Speaker 23 (01:13:10):
Going all right?

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Good, thanks Chock.

Speaker 18 (01:13:13):
Long time no here, no see. I've moved on from
Norsewood up to Ragdan. It's about three months ago. And
you told me to keep in touch with you, but
I couldn't get hold of your station up there for
some reason, Seep.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Is it to worry?

Speaker 18 (01:13:29):
It was a worry, mate, But anyway, things didn't pan
it up there. So I'm back here in Norsewood now.
I had a great three months up there, beautiful spot,
the per terrorist, the every where, everything was humming, surf
was pumping. Just didn't work out, That's all I can say.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Have you got a place to live in Norsewood?

Speaker 5 (01:13:53):
Yes?

Speaker 18 (01:13:53):
I have, My very dear friend lived for fifteen years.
Courses the room here, the as chalk.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Oh god, I can't please to hear. But in news
with Norsewood, Chuck, it was on the news about the.

Speaker 18 (01:14:05):
Socks or did you see that the other night?

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
I didn't because the only socks I wear the Northwood socks,
those thick wild ones. But what was the story about?

Speaker 18 (01:14:15):
Someone texted me it was about the factory. You need
to get back and spot that program because I know
all those people like it wasn't away away or have
got really homesicked because everybody in that program in Onengular
been there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
So they're not they're not going bang or they're still
making the socks though, aren't they know.

Speaker 18 (01:14:36):
They're not going bang? But by Craigie's I've been going
bang about six times.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Yeah, I know there's always a but I don't want
those socks to get I don't want to I don't
want everyone to be buying those socks. I can't get
hold of them.

Speaker 18 (01:14:51):
So I'm back now, and that's so good to be back.
I haven't had a very pleasant welcome home. They're just saying,
what are you doing back here?

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
Chuck?

Speaker 18 (01:15:01):
I just got rid of you for three months.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Have they reopened the pub yet? If not, no, is
the Is the Norsewood Pub still closed?

Speaker 5 (01:15:14):
Still closed? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Is it going to become a flesh pad or something?

Speaker 18 (01:15:17):
Well, not a flex pub. No, it's a two story
pub and the guy was doing it up and it's
also tipped over.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Sure. Okay, will you stay in touch, Chock, and thank
you for the update. It all sounded a precarious ragling.
But anyway, you had a good three months and the holiday.
It's nice to hear from you. Eight from ten. Welcome Brian.
This is Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
Him.

Speaker 24 (01:15:41):
Marcus. I'm just talking about appliances and getting thrown away
and is having anything wrong with them? Back in nineteen
seventy I sat an electrical apprenticeship with a firm here
in christ Is called Wok and Sulverson, and we used
to see fix appliances, and we had agencies for all

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sorts of mechanical Gewelbert girls, draw machines like that, winding motors.
We even had a person that made brushes. We had
another lady there actually made we'd wind up small amates.
In other words, we could fix everything, and excuse me,

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we're gonna fix everything that is required these days that
started away. I can remember testing appliances such as toasters,
but putting pieces of toasting them and seeing how they
came out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
You actually, Brian, did you put pieces of toasting them
or pieces of bread?

Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
Sorry?

Speaker 24 (01:16:47):
Correct, pieces of bread?

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
I can't believe. I can't believe actually tested toasters with bread.
I'm excited to hear that that self has made my
night worth while, that's unbelievable.

Speaker 24 (01:16:57):
On a Tuesday morning, we'd line up as toasts we've
appeared because we were we were agents for Sunbeam something.
Of course we're in Australia, but we're stuffer Sunday and
we used to line up on Tuesday morning. We'd toast
up the pieces of bread we have, buttery and anything
a rigine you go. Because we're talking old school here.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Hey, but tell me something. But Brian, in nineteen seventy
you probably paytreon it bucks when you toast it. Wouldn't
you that be expensive?

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:17:26):
Oh? They were?

Speaker 24 (01:17:27):
They were, And people would deliberately go across to Sydney,
for example, and when they came back, they bring back
freed processes and toasted and breed processes were the go
to bring them back because they were so cheap without you,
without the you know, without the duty.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Yeah, of course, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:17:50):
But because because all these appliances were, as you said,
were expensive of buy in the first place. Everything was
repairable and we used to fix it like luc fry pans, toasters, drills, machinery,
that sort of thing, and it was all worth doing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Wow, do you repear your own toaster now? There, Brian,
no way in the world.

Speaker 24 (01:18:22):
The funny thing is, I just need to get it's
all work done around my own home, and I actually
hired in the electrician to come and do it. But
I've got too old and two lasself.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
I'm surprised you have gone. I thought you would have
found an old toaster on a garage sale in the
nineteen seventies and fixed it up and just used that one.
That's what I'd be doing if I was you. One
that you could face.

Speaker 24 (01:18:46):
Well, you don't need to in a sense that if
I could actually have a fine one, if I saw
one just sitting on a bench where I came by it,
probably by it the good old passionate ones that didn't
pop up, The good old ones where a big giving,
you know, heavy duty, big ole in the middle, and
what happened is.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
That I'm going to go brih. But look, thank you
for calling. We'll ever know, but look, thank you so
much for that. I'm just going to my news break,
but back soon. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
If you've just tuned in, you're in luck. We are
talking about the right to repair goods that you can
buy that you should be able to fix. But what
are those goods? I mean, yes, we're back on my torch,

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but you know, you might have something else to say
about this the toast. I mean, I'm sure of all
of us if someone put out a brand that was
a brand that was unbreakable, a brand that would last
a lifetime, a kettle that you could get a new
element for every time, the element blue or whatever. I mean,
probably how many kettles would you buy in a lifetime? Five?

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Because for me, it's not the cost advantages. It's just
the fact you're producing so much less waste. It's kind
of dispiriting to have a kettle that's plastic and it breaks,
it's just going to go in the bin. I mean,
what a waste of the cycle.

Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
That is.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
The extract the fuel senate to manufacture, build it last
five years out it goes. This make sense to me,
might make sense to you, and so we are talking
about that and also your experience with repairing things some
ways fascinated by that if people have tried to repair

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something that successes they've had and you know how easy
is to buy parts, because you think would be in
the golden age for parts with the Internet and the
warehousing that comes that you can find anything. But I
would imagine a lot of companies now don't make parts available,
don't want people to fixed stuff right, and that's why

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they probably need legislation help to make people print stuff
or make people not print stuff, but provide stuff to
fix things. That's the topic tonight. It's been very enjoyable
to look. If you want to talk on that, please
get in touch. I've got a lot of texts, so
I will get to those. But in the meantime it's

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pretty much about that. So if you've got something to add,
oh eight hundred and eighty Teddy and nine two nine
to text you've been trying to get through before the news,
Now it's a good time to hear from you. As
I say, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine
two nine two text Monemers Marcus hittled twelve. Yeah, the
Olympics are on this handball, so it's high screwing match handball,

(01:21:33):
isn't it. The Netherlands and Angola are going toe to
toe in the women's handball. Interesting, But yes, get in
touch if you've got anything to add about any of these topics.

(01:21:53):
It's only that one topic actually at the stage, but
there the other's coming up from time to time, and
this has been rich pickings for us. So yeah, fixing
stuff and what are you fixing? And what appliances if
you bought that you think will last your lifetime. I'd
be curious to know what those ones are. I mean,

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I presume if you get on the internet there will
be companies that sell stuff that is going to last forever.
What does that brand? I wouldn't mind knowing a bit
more about that. It's kind of something I wouldn't mind
getting a bit more involved. And I don't want to
become an obsessive like Live Forever obsessive, but I am
interested in it. Eight hundred eighty eight twenty and nine

(01:22:39):
two nine two to text. There's any other breaking news
I'll bring that to you. If Old Trump drops his
vice president candidate. There's been some talk about that. Jady
Varance no longer hits the spots that he once did,
but anyway, so I'll keep an eye on that. An
international news for you between now and twelve oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two to text Graham,

(01:23:06):
it's good evening.

Speaker 25 (01:23:08):
Yeah, there you go on. I'm talking about repairing things
many many, many years ago. Electric drugs didn't have the
old crtry out thing when they overheated. Yeah, and electric kettles,
and I remembers it ones in particular, and if I
boiled ryther would get so hot the spout fell off
and we used to sold the spout back on again.

(01:23:32):
And the element, if you let it cool down on
its own, it just needed tightening up and it would
go again. But if you panicked and put cold water in,
it blewed a bit. But yeah, we sold it spouts
on them. But I've got Brabrania now. I think they're
called their Dutch drugs and toasters, and I've had no
problems over ten to fifteen years with the other.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
Could you replace the elements in one?

Speaker 25 (01:23:56):
I don't know. I've never had to bother because I've
got the cutouts, which yeah, you know, I mean an
element Normally it only burns out. They don't wear out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
But I like, I enjoy a kettle without a cutout switch.

Speaker 19 (01:24:09):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
But you do have to. You do burn them out
from time you leave them on, because you used to
go in other places where it's got what are they
called a forgettle and then next thing you know, you've
actually run it dry. But you know, most supermarkets used
to sell Spere elements. Don't know if they would any.

Speaker 5 (01:24:23):
More, do they. I don't know.

Speaker 25 (01:24:25):
He's the hermetic I think the brand of them, But yeah,
I remember soldering these on. It was unreal. You had
to use killer spirits because when you're soldering the spirit
a soul's works on the gurvanizing on the metal yep.
And of course that the jugs didn't have any gurganized
on them, so you had to put little bits of
govanized under the spirits to kill it. So it did work. Wow,

(01:24:49):
they got so hot the spout fell off was solid
on them. It's the old Stonus well chrome ones.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Because people were terrified of those zip things, weren't they.
I mean it sounds like good. So if you put
cold water and they would explode.

Speaker 25 (01:25:02):
Right, No, they just they just cool them out there
and they called out without shocking, that would carry on working.
That you could replace them. Of those days you have
unscrewed them and pulled them out.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
I'll never quite work out the point of them. They
just worked like a kettle, didn't it.

Speaker 25 (01:25:23):
Yeah, it was just well, it would be more like
a joe really than a kettle.

Speaker 21 (01:25:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
Okay, yeah, nice tea from me. Graham, thank you. Hello, Laurie,
it's Marcus. Welcome. That's your kittles.

Speaker 26 (01:25:34):
Here, becus. Hey, yeah, that guy talking about a business
not working that well and fixing things. But I'll get
a plug to a place in Parmy Central Electrical. They'll
they are right into fixing anything you take in there. Yeah.
Or they are a mixture of Central Electrical another outfit
Martin's Electrical blended in with them. But they'll do TVs, toasters.

(01:26:00):
I've had metal detectors in there, but anything, it's sort
of sort of any implement before I think I've got
to throw it away, I always take it down and
they all yeah, most times they can they can extend
its life for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
Yeah, is this something they've recently done or they've always
done it? In three years time, they're going to they're
going to stop doing it.

Speaker 26 (01:26:23):
Know these guys, this Martin, he's been around for a
long time as mister fix it. But his son is
in with him now as well. Okay, so yeah, I
mean your probably son's probably in his forties or so.
But so there's a been life in them there yet
there okay, And.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
They'll give you a quote straight away. They won't start
charging that little bit of a look and say they's
got to cut your thirty bucks. You better find a
new one.

Speaker 26 (01:26:44):
He's got a pretty good idea looking at it, you know,
whether sometimes he won't charge it to leave it and
I see if I can get a bit and because
he's got a whole range of other old bits and
pieces around, but.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
That's what we want. Like this, This is the guy
what what's he called mister fix it?

Speaker 16 (01:26:59):
Yere one?

Speaker 26 (01:27:00):
No, I know he's called Central Electrical, Central Electrical, but
it's also mixture of Martin's, Martin's Electrical, Uh, Andrew Young
Street and Parmy is a good photo there on on
the on the Google. But they'll they still go back
to I think they actually had the service for the
old Kirby Kirby vacuum cleaners, you know, those very expensive things.

(01:27:24):
I think I think they still still work on those
as well. There are an agency, but I've had other
vacuum cleaners in there that they've fixed, you know, just
we're i think from these shark ones where there's a
bend in the in the in the hose and that
goes and it's without it's a tricky thing to get out,

(01:27:46):
and they know they fixed that, all right, So that's
for you know, probably only about fifteen dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Yeah, wow, okay, yeah, they must go must go wrong
with the middle of.

Speaker 26 (01:27:59):
Not too much. Just get the odd dry joint, you know,
if it's been banged around. But yeah, it's it's my ones.
Just it's one of the same of ours used. It's
just straight fairest metal. So it's not a gold to
far finding survey mark.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
So limit Oh okay, yes you're not out there, okay, okay.

Speaker 26 (01:28:19):
But no, no, they are pretty robust. It's supposed to
be pretty good. If you can turn them right, you
get a high wine with them. You can chase away
dogs as well, you know, that's sort of who he.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
Is and teenagers. Larry nice to take dog get sixteen
past teen, Shirley Marcus evening welcome.

Speaker 27 (01:28:35):
Yeah, hi Marcus, you said to be struggling for callers.
So I thought, we've got a zip toaster and we've
had it since nineteen seventy two and it's still going strong.
Sorry what a zip toaster?

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
Okay from when.

Speaker 27 (01:28:56):
Nineteen seventy two we've got it as a wedding present
and it's still going strong. We have had elements replaced
in it a few years ago, touchwood, so hopefully the
element keeps going in it. And yeah, my husband uses
it every day and it toasts really really well.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
Is that your only toaster?

Speaker 27 (01:29:15):
It is my only toaster?

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
And the elements and the elements blowing it do they.

Speaker 28 (01:29:24):
They used to?

Speaker 27 (01:29:25):
Yeah, but yeah, we have had the elements replaced in it,
like goodness me absolutely years ago. But so far it's
been going so so well, and it toasts really well
and relatively quickly, and yeah, it does a waitiant job.
So I just hope it continues.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
Yeah, I'd be curious to know how much it would
cost if you had to do it now to get
this get the elements replaced. I don't know how that
would happen, but maybe they could still do it.

Speaker 27 (01:29:55):
I don't know that as to it, but hey, I
totally agree with you. It would be good if they
made applances to lust so we didn't have them for
a short while and then have to, you know, replace
the whole unit instead of being able to get a fact.
It would be so much better, fair environment, Wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
Nice to talk shit? He thanks so much? Seventeen past ten, Nige,
your good evening. Welcome.

Speaker 23 (01:30:19):
Yeah, I know. Excuse me, I've got a frog in
my throat. I'll take a drink. Yeah that's better. Can
you hear me? All right?

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
That I'm clear receiving sounding good?

Speaker 23 (01:30:32):
Oh that's good. I heard your story about the torch
and you bought it at mister Minnette. Is that right
or wrong?

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
I think so. I'm not quite sure which mister Minute
it was, but that's where I believe it was.

Speaker 23 (01:30:45):
It doesn't matter which mister Minnette, because I bought my
last torch of mister Minnerts and I've had problems with it,
and I took it back into them and they had
a look as up for a while. He said it
worked for me and I still had problems with it.
The most expensive torch I've ever bought in my lifetime?

(01:31:07):
Is it most expensive?

Speaker 4 (01:31:09):
To?

Speaker 10 (01:31:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
What brand is it, Nigel? What brand is it?

Speaker 23 (01:31:13):
It's led Lensa? Is yours?

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
Well that's a lens a right? How long? How long
have you had it?

Speaker 23 (01:31:22):
I've had it a good five years now, but I
haven't been using it late and much lately because it's
so unreliable.

Speaker 5 (01:31:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
No, mine didn't work at all. Mine worked once and
it never worked again. But I'm going to send it
to the company that imports it, and apparently they fix
them tight lines in napier. They're very good with Leathermon's
and hopefully they're good with.

Speaker 23 (01:31:46):
Yours. Will be still under warranty.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
No, I think might have been ten years ago. But
I've just I just it didn't work and I've put
it away. It's just the other day I got out,
I thought, hang about I've got to do something with that,
so that it's been a long long time since I
had it out.

Speaker 23 (01:31:59):
Your mind was under warranty still when I took it
back in and the guy said he had for him,
but mind you. Yeah, And when I got home. It
was just no different for me.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
Hey, I tell you what I know.

Speaker 23 (01:32:15):
Sorry, think's flight batteries, isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
It, Nigel? With what we found out last night with
the lens of batteries, there is a travel mode that
you can turn on. So you've got to press the
on button for five seconds to take it out of
travel mode. Ah right, but so so that so see

(01:32:41):
if that works for you, But then you have to
go and buy a new battery. Ain't new batteries to
work If that's going to work, don't you? So that's
a hands right.

Speaker 23 (01:32:47):
Also, and you do that, you do that, hold on
to it for five seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
Yeah, it will be on the website on the internet
under lends of underlends of torture.

Speaker 23 (01:33:01):
I haven't got the internet at home.

Speaker 14 (01:33:03):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
Yeah, Well, if you find some batteries, just try that
for five seconds. That's why that didn't work with me.
I tried that last night. But yeah, thank you. Twenty
three past ten Tina at some Marcus good evening.

Speaker 29 (01:33:16):
Hello Marcus, Hi, Ta. I flexed most of them. So
let me tell The last thing I fixed was my
battery drill. I replaced the brushes and a couple of
cells in the battery. I fixed my hot water Infinity
gas hot water Peter the water was getting cold, so
I managed to fix that. My Apple laptop that wouldn't

(01:33:37):
fire up, turned it on and then to shut down instantly.
So I did a bit of research online and found
if you removed the battery, you'll just go straight off
the main So I fixed that. So I pretty much
have a go at fixing Monts because I take the
view that you've got nothing to lose, have you? Because
it's pretty broken, you must well have a go at
fixing it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Are you buying specific appliances that are fixable?

Speaker 16 (01:34:01):
No?

Speaker 29 (01:34:01):
No, So for example, for the that would be.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
A would criteria for people start buying stuff that is
able to be fixed, and then in fact the manufacturers
might start making more stuff like that. That's my thinking.

Speaker 29 (01:34:16):
Well, I was told something years ago, and I think
it's quite true. Everything in the world is a quotation
of the cheapest parts. So you find that the same
brushes are the same that kit is used on different
models across the range. I don't believe you can buy
quality anymore. I don't think it exists.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
I remember there's a whole movement that isn't that it's
about buying things for life, and I think they've got
whole lists of products that do so I think probably
now is the time that you can buy that sort
of stuff if you research it.

Speaker 5 (01:34:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 29 (01:34:44):
So I remember years ago when I lived in the UK,
they were saying that you could only get your car
fixed or under warranty, or maintain the warranties. You took
your BMW back to BMW, and so all the little
independent garages were cut out because they couldn't prepare the cars.
So they screamed and kicked off, and so they changed
the law and said, okay, anyone can access the data
for repairing the BMW's great. But then guess what they did.

(01:35:07):
They said, if you want the data that it's going
to cost you ten thousand pounds to access the data.
You know, So, yes, most things are Do I buy
things for quality? No, I'm like most people. I'd go
and buy the cheapest price. I've already had four kettles
this year.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
That's crazy, Tina, Okay, thank you. It's called the right
to a lot of countries now. I think Colorado is
the last state they've had a state that means that,
you know, with automotive you know, it's got the right
to repair. With automotive stuff and things like that, you've
got to you can't have proprietary knowledge. Anyone's going to
be able to access and fix them, which I think
is the right way to go. But look, it's twenty
five past ten. Let me just have a quick squizz

(01:35:46):
around the news. Get in touch, by the way, if
you've got anything to add to this topic. I think
it's kind of snow next week. I can't hope for that.
I'm looking forward to that as much promise snow. Um,

(01:36:14):
But let me just make sure I'm up to date
with all the news that's happening around the world. Haven't
missed out anything. Eight hundred eighty detext North Korea is
still frantically releasing balloon send them into South Korea. Now

(01:36:35):
that's bizarre. The Netherlands have won their handball. They've now
formed a circle and they're jumping. Good match. Well, I
wouldn't I've never seen it before. Taylor Swift fans are
convinced that Taylor Swift is secretly engaged. Wouldn't surprise me.

(01:37:00):
I don't know what the symbols what, um, it's the
way she's done her sot order of songs she played Stay, Stay, Stay,
then paper Rings, which features the lyric I like shiny things,

(01:37:21):
but I'd marry you with paper rings and Darling, you're
the one that I want. There we go fair enough.
I'd be convinced her if she's singing them in those order.
Queen Mary of Denmark got knocked over by a scooter.
We've all been there, yep. Now get in touch. My

(01:37:43):
name's Marcus Hddled twelve oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
and nine to nine. I've got some good texts. I'll
get those. I've been a bit remiss, miss remiss or
the text, but that's over. Get in touch. My name
is Marcus Hittled, twelve oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

(01:38:07):
Anything else you want to talk about, they'd be good
to hear from you. Oh, what North Korea will be
competing at the Olympics.

Speaker 4 (01:38:14):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
There are always of interest to watch, remember it. That
was the other thing I think remember at Oh, it
was the Winter Olympic because it's sold. They sent their
chess squad, didn't they. That was quite a big deal
for the ice skating. Marcus. My first microwave Panasonic lasted
twenty five years. In the end the cold wood night's
froze the fingerpads to something with people all night. My

(01:38:38):
first fridge, secondhand in ninete eighty one, also lasted thirty
five years Calvenator. Now the new fridge sounds like a
spacecraft at time. They're made to last, not like today
the result of wanting cheap stuff. It's the same with technology.
When you buy you get different connecting cords, which means

(01:38:59):
the old one is useless. What do we do with
all the old recycle outlists? Don't want them. If you
leave the lid up on a kettle when it's boiling,
it bypasses. The cutoff will bail until it's dry. The
cutoff is activated by the steam build up. Marcus I
brought a set of Murray pots and pans in seventy six.

(01:39:23):
I presume it's nineteen seventy six. On eighteen seventy six.
They have a big screw in the handle that you
can always tighten them if they get loose, or to
replace the handle. Amazing pots still use them, Marcus Dice
are amazing. I've had my vacuum cleaner repaired for proxby
twoundred bucks three times each time. It's as good as
it was when I first purchased it twenty nine to eleven.

(01:39:46):
I'll be hered on midnight. I'll be here until there's
none of Thursday left. Good evening. Oh and it's Marcus
welcomes an evening.

Speaker 20 (01:39:56):
Marcus. You're asking about people a lot repairing things, So
I have a go at repairing most things. But my first,
the one that just sticks in my mind was my
children's first tricycle. When we were first married and had
little kids, we barely had two cents to rub together.
And from the top of I was was a great

(01:40:17):
fan of the inorganic cleanups, and we would always leave
people's piles and they had in a nice tidy condition afterwards.
And I got a tricycle which I had all the
parts I needed, and just needed to buy some washes
and split pins and things, and I fixed it for
a dollar eighty one, and my son rode that, and

(01:40:40):
then my daughter rode it, and then we gave it
to another family and their kids rode it, and that
was well worth it. On the matter of torches and
having trouble with yours, a gentleman called earlier and he
mentioned lead lens a torch. I'm not sure if that
was the same models.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
That's the one I've got.

Speaker 20 (01:41:02):
All right, because I've got a lead lend. Sure, I've
only had it a year or so, but I've got
a lead lens of a running light so i can
go running on bush trails at night time and it's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
I wouldn't bring up and I wouldn't ring this and
gloat about led lean to torch the woods because I
still feel quite I still feel quite salty about that.

Speaker 20 (01:41:23):
But it is a head torch, yes, and it's a
it's brilliant. It's got a really broad spread. What I
like about it is that it's it's got a magnetic charge,
so there's like these two points of little magnetic but
you pop on so there's no cavity where you're going
to let water in. Okay, okay, And it's and the

(01:41:46):
spread of light is brilliant. Because i'd had another one
i'd tried out beforehand, and I was twisting my ankles
because it's never wild enough wide enough field of vision
so you can adjust the how wide the spot is
on it, and you're going to just see the light
intensity and the angle I.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
Think I think we won't be able to use words
like umber and pinumber here, can we? Is that what
it's about.

Speaker 20 (01:42:10):
I'm going to take your word for that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
I don't know what the cast anyway, it sounds great.

Speaker 20 (01:42:16):
Yeah, so so well, hopefully you get your one.

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
It's I need to do. I need to do that now.
I mean, that's that's probably one of my the one
of the reasons left to live for me is to
get that torch shorted. Because yeah, I just I just
start to think about it last night, I thought that's
just crazy. I wore it once.

Speaker 20 (01:42:38):
Frustrating I sent you an email I don't know if
you had a chance to look at it, suggesting where
you could, you know, one test all the battery, but
then you could maybe pull out the separate the the
the lamp part of it and just run without the

(01:42:58):
swing had had it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
Had a tiny talk screw head that I haven't got
the screw for that to remove the led from that. Yeah,
I've got enough kid pros. We're always doing that products
with the kids. They've always got enough of those testers.
I'm sure we could work something out with that as well.
This haven't quite work out. Yeah, I just thought the
fix would be easier than that. Yeah, but what goes

(01:43:22):
wrong with that? What goes wrong with LED? What goes
wrong with LED bulbs? Nothing that they weren't last forever.

Speaker 20 (01:43:29):
That I'm not sure. My brother's more of an authority
on on that sort of thing. I recently had a problem.
For several years, I've been buying energizer batteries because even
though they're reasonably expensive, I can getting a decent price
from Bunnings, and they last last longer and I can

(01:43:52):
put them in a device. But I've had some go
faulty though the ones that were still inside the packet
hadn't even used, were starting to weep corrosive material O
at the end, and so I returned them, talked from
a brother who is a solar and battery expert, And

(01:44:13):
I also had different devices like a little pocket radio
for listening to you, and another sort of like the
trimmer thing and other kind of trimmers that had I
was getting intimittent faults with them, and so I talked
to my brother and said, can you get intimittent fault?

(01:44:34):
Can batteries give you intermittent faults? You know, if they
were poorly manufactured, they said, yes they can, and so
I tried going to some older ones I had sitting
there into a different pack and the intermittency went away.
So he was saying that that particular brand, the Energizer,
like most batteries now are manufactured and in that case,

(01:44:58):
four different countries, and the quality between the countries is
highly variable.

Speaker 5 (01:45:02):
Wow.

Speaker 20 (01:45:03):
And it's frustrating because I don't know, why.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
Can you tell us that does it have a place
of manufacturing on the batteries the Energizes.

Speaker 20 (01:45:11):
It's written, it's written on the packet their country of manufacturer,
but not on the battery, but there's a batch number
written on the battery. And I find it frustrating because
I don't mind paying for something if you get in quality,
but now you can't even do that. And no, they're
kissing goodbye, and he's saying the other major brands have
done the same thing. They're they're manufacturing them in all

(01:45:33):
different countries.

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
Did they say which countries are good at manufacturing them
which ones are bad?

Speaker 20 (01:45:41):
I could dig up the email, but I know I've
got the Indonesian batteries and I think the words or
second worst out of the four.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
Gosh, you still cultural stereotype screaming, don't they look Thanks
so much for that. I hadn't thought about that. But
for me, it's not the batteries didn't work at all.
But nice to hear from you. David's Marcus.

Speaker 5 (01:46:01):
Hello, Yes, hi Marcus, you're talking. I just turned in you.
You're talking about appliances that lasted a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
Yes, and if you can still buy those new ones
that are ones you can repair and keep going with.

Speaker 4 (01:46:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:46:21):
Well I've got a I've got a vacuum cleaner that
was built in nineteen oh nine and it still goes.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
Goodness, it has it got a bag? Has it got
a has it got a bag?

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
Well?

Speaker 5 (01:46:38):
What it is? It's a it's an electro Luxe vacuum
and it's made in Sweden, which was the home of
electro Luxe. And it's it sits on like skis instead
of wheels, and at the back of it it has

(01:46:59):
like it looks like a revolver. It's got a it's
got a stock like a like a gun, and you
point it at whatever you're about to vacuum and it
still sucks. And it also has a the trunk of

(01:47:21):
an elephant going up and down the side of the
revolver on both sides.

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
Goodness, is it your dave? Is it your primary vacuum cleaner?
Or is it one you collecked and you've got others?

Speaker 5 (01:47:36):
Well, I used to have a huge collection of vacuum cleaners.

Speaker 2 (01:47:39):
There we go.

Speaker 5 (01:47:41):
Yeah, I used to have over one thousand vacuum cleaners.

Speaker 2 (01:47:44):
Goodness is your podcast?

Speaker 4 (01:47:46):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
Okay, of course you did.

Speaker 5 (01:47:47):
Yep. Yeah, I used to collect them in the nineteen nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
Would that be the biggest collection? Would that be the
biggest collection in New Zealand?

Speaker 5 (01:47:58):
No? No, Well, people who collect things they don't broad
they don't broadcast.

Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
Them because one of their mates will come around for
tea and they'll steal you. Every one I know how
to collectors. They're obsessed.

Speaker 5 (01:48:12):
Yeah, it's not like it's like a rear car or anything.
You know. There's there's a lot of eccentric people out
there who collect crazy things. And I guess I could
have been one of those eccentric people.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
Did you a thousand vacuum cleaners?

Speaker 5 (01:48:32):
I had them stored at my house, in other people's garages.
I had them stored under my parents' house, all sorts
of places.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
Sounds to be that you cross the line.

Speaker 5 (01:48:51):
Well I did sort of cross the line, just in
a small way.

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
Was there a holy grail that you was there one
that was your favorite.

Speaker 26 (01:49:05):
Of all of them?

Speaker 5 (01:49:07):
Well, this one that I just mentioned.

Speaker 2 (01:49:10):
Was one, was the one you hadn't got, was the
one that you were desperate to get hold of?

Speaker 28 (01:49:18):
Not really, not really.

Speaker 5 (01:49:19):
I The thing is, I never actually paid for any
of them. I just used to I just because I
used to do the inorganic rubbish collections. Yep. And I
still do the inorganic rubbish collections. And when I.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
I thought the inorganics had stopped, No, no, they still go. Okay,
I didn't know that. I'm not an Alton, but thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:49:47):
Yep, yeah, no, they're still still in organics. But they're
they're changed a bit. They don't spread them out on
the footpath like they used to.

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
What do they do now?

Speaker 5 (01:50:00):
Well, you have to book. You have to book. You're
rubbish and you can't have be.

Speaker 2 (01:50:07):
Quick with your answers. I have so many questions I
need to ask you. Did you used to repair did
you used to repair them all?

Speaker 23 (01:50:16):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:50:16):
No I'm not I'm not an electrician.

Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
Okay, but you had a thousand broken down vacuum cleaners.

Speaker 5 (01:50:25):
No, most of them were working. But I know I
never actually too. I never actually use them as vacuum
cleaners because they were too nice. I didn't, so my
falls remain dirty.

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
Yeah, that's the rin I knew you'd be like the
Cobbler's children. You had a dusty house and a thousands
so so I mean, ever want to be thinking it,
and I'll ask the question, what caused you to divest
of your collection?

Speaker 5 (01:51:00):
Well, many, many things, just the lack of storage, seeing
the light, Like you know, you don't remember the movie
The Blues Brothers because the.

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
Thing about collecting is after a while you realize that
another one's not going to make you happier, becomes an
obsession and it's futile because even every vacuum clean in
the world wouldn't have made you feel okay, would it.

Speaker 23 (01:51:23):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:51:23):
Well, look a thousand it's not going to be enough. No,
it's not going to be enough.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
So the Blues Brothers.

Speaker 4 (01:51:30):
Yeah, well you remember the.

Speaker 5 (01:51:31):
Movie with the Blues Brothers where Jake saw the light
in the church instead of doing somersaults. Yeah, well there
was me. I saw the light in the church instead
of doing somersaults.

Speaker 2 (01:51:46):
But Was it a religious was a religious event?

Speaker 5 (01:51:51):
No, Well, it's it's a bit complicated.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
Hang on, hold your horses day, we're gonna have a commission.
Hold your horses. Don't go anywhere. Thanks for hanging on there, Dave.
So what happened? How did you decide to get rid
of them all?

Speaker 5 (01:52:03):
Well, it's a it's a bit complicated.

Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
Of well, of course it's complicated. It wouldn't be anything less.

Speaker 5 (01:52:08):
Yeah, okay, yeah, it's very it's it's complicated enough not
to divulge it on the air.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
Okay, fair enough, Good, I appreciate that. Was it hard
to get rid of them all? Or did they all
go to the tip?

Speaker 18 (01:52:22):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:52:22):
No, most of them got ended up getting scraps when
when the price of scrap metal went up?

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
So you got rid of a thousand, you got rid
a thousand vacuum cleanars for scrap metal?

Speaker 5 (01:52:37):
No, not not quite a thousand, probably about six hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
If you're past you in organic now and you see
a vacuum cleaner, do you still take it? Or you
got rid of that itch?

Speaker 5 (01:52:48):
Well, only a certain type of vacuum cleaner, not the
modern ones.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
So you're still impartial to an old one. You'll still
grab that.

Speaker 5 (01:52:59):
Oh yeah, I'll still if I find an old one,
I'll still have a word to it and talk about
the good old days.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
How many vacuum things have you got now?

Speaker 5 (01:53:11):
I've got a few.

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
I've got a how many is a few?

Speaker 23 (01:53:16):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:53:17):
Well, you know, I can I leave it up to you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
Thank you, Dave, Ray Marcus welcome, Yeah, hi Marcus.

Speaker 19 (01:53:27):
I yes. Will was when I was about sixteen, and
let's over sixty years ago, and we used to sell
things like how to fix your own cigarette lighter, you know,
little flints and the wick. And then in the shoe
department they used to sell things that fix your own
shoes and a stick on the sole that's right town

(01:53:48):
heel plates on or people don't even use those there.
And then the electrical department they sold all the elements
for different sized toasters and tetle jugs, and all the
cord that you could make up your own cord, you know,
make up your own extension cord. Was amazing, It was amazing,
and they were very busy.

Speaker 12 (01:54:07):
They were very busy.

Speaker 2 (01:54:08):
But I always brought Zippo lighters that you could always
get the fluts and the work and all that sort
of stuff which was always as every satisfying feeling to
fix that sort of stuff, isn't it?

Speaker 16 (01:54:19):
Yes? Yeah?

Speaker 19 (01:54:20):
But the other thing that was amazing. I was there
when the first lot of ballpoint pens came on sale,
and we used to sell refills, so you got you
got your pen, and then you come into wool Ways
and we had about ten different sizes and you just

(01:54:40):
buy a refill for your pen and you just was
a little tube. The only problem was they used to
leak people. That was you'd see people uptown with a shirt,
you know, the pens bleaked great blue spain you know
there I have. I didn't sell on that one, you know,
but we used to sell hundreds of those, hundreds of those.

(01:55:02):
So you got your pin, then your bed and he
came into Ways or were Kensis because that was the opposition. Yes,
and then you've got JR. Rethow you see the apeon.
But I mean it did ruin a lot of suits
and ripping a lot of shirts over the years, but
then they decided to make what they've got now, you know,
throw away the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
Nice to talk great, Thanks so much for your call. Hello,
good evening, ann or welcome new said and my name
is Marcus Hittle twelve. I hope you are good. Greetings
and welcome. Jim Stedden will be long after me tonight.
He's the overnighter. We're talking about buying appliances.

Speaker 23 (01:55:40):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
I mean we've talked me a lot of stuff, but
old appliants as well. I just wonder if anyone's going
out and buying appliances that they know specifically because they
know they can get parts for them, and that they
know will be there forever appliance got It sounds like
I'm talking like on location occation, occasion with your forever home,
and I wonder what those things are. And we start
about the torch last night. I'm sorry to go on

(01:56:01):
on about the torch, but yeah, I mean everyone talking
at these lens of torches, but they're not fixable, and
I don't reckon well, I struggle with them. I mean,
those old maglight torches were very very good because you
had the spear bobs with them, and they're very basic.
Because everyone thought alied was the way to go, I
might start collecting antique torches. I mean, haven't even got

(01:56:23):
any need for a torch. That's the irony, because actually
I think like most of us. I probably use the
camera and my cell phone, the camera and the torch
on my cell phone more than anything. Watching a football
match at the Olympics Argentina and Morocco, and it's been

(01:56:52):
such an ill tempered game with so much time on
the ground that after ninety minutes of play there is
fifteen minutes of extra time. It's a lot, isn't it.
I've never been aware of a match with that much
extra time, but anyway, a lot in it. They're passionate.

(01:57:26):
Get in touch if you want to talk. My name
is Marcus eight hundred and eighty nine nine to text
if you want to be a part of it. He
till midnight Jim Stephen from twelve Raymond Marcus.

Speaker 4 (01:57:40):
Welcome, give evening Marcus. You're talking about appliances tonight. Yeah, well,
I'll tell you a little story. Never buy a toasta,
and we have some men men a lot of short story.
I bought the first toasta, bought a time plugged them.
When I put my vocals toasting, it wouldn't go, so

(01:58:04):
put it in the box. We bet that we use
got the second one, took a home, plugged it in.
It went, but it wouldn't stop.

Speaker 5 (01:58:15):
Was a joke.

Speaker 4 (01:58:15):
So anyway, I put that one in the box, went back,
got the third one. I put them, went to put
the toast there the boys being blown blewed up off
a bug of this and you had taking the told
the toaster back to the warehouse, got my money back,

(01:58:36):
and we ain't got one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:58:37):
No, no liming, Raymond. Do you remember how much the
one from the warehouse costing? What brand it was?

Speaker 4 (01:58:46):
They were about average from from thirty four dollars up
was to about forty eight doors. Okay, yeah, but there
were there are a cheap there are a cheap brand.
You're seeing then is he going to buy a decent toasty?
You be to keep one from his coats or no
lemon because you at LISTA got to guarantee, well if

(01:59:08):
the ones that wear use.

Speaker 2 (01:59:10):
But Raymond guarantee, why would you make a toaster it
doesn't even work? I mean it's a it's pretty reliable
technology of how to make it, isn't it?

Speaker 4 (01:59:20):
Well yeah, sickly, I mean yeah, I mean these these choices.
I took that three home and three I took back.
They'll bring you actually bring you head of the box
never being used. I mean and you want so many
choices before they sell them, you willero but test them

(01:59:40):
before they at you go, and some they don't. I
had a friend of mine had a jug. It wouldn't
stop balling and it victually boiled itself to pieces.

Speaker 2 (01:59:57):
Yeah, well that happened with the old school jugs, the
ones that I think if you have a jug without
the top on, relies on steam to activate that switching off,
that can go bad.

Speaker 5 (02:00:06):
Yeah, and the new.

Speaker 2 (02:00:09):
Toast is going well, The new toast is going well.

Speaker 5 (02:00:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:00:14):
Cut, the new one's going well.

Speaker 4 (02:00:17):
Yeah, yeah, my new one's going well. Never meant a beat.

Speaker 2 (02:00:22):
Nice to hear from your Raymond.

Speaker 14 (02:00:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:00:23):
Twelve past eleven, eleven or twelve. My name is Marcus.
Welcome lines Fear. If you've been trying to get through anything,
goes ahead on midnight tonight. Kept the texts. Also, if
it's broken a specially if it's mechanically fixed, ever go.
You might succeed if someone put it together as a

(02:00:44):
chance you could fix it. If you don't, you may
have learned something. You're in the process and you haven't
lost anything. Marcus, this is that caller on elect Relaxe.
I have the older model that has been restored by
an enthusiast a few years ago. The person the same
as your caller. Some people are clever, Marcus. Seventh. Laughter

(02:01:13):
is so hard at Ages. Vacuum cleaner man has made
my weak. Marcus. I've got a Hamilton Beach milkshake maker
from nineteen sixty five. Looks like something straight of the
pan am era. Magnificent Marcus. Another snippet of history. My

(02:01:39):
father had a cycle shop in the nineteen sixties. In
those days he was seeing with bikes from scratch, including
spoking the wheels. I wonder how many people these days
could do this. I suppose they're all spoked by machines.
I guess that's the way it works. Get in touch.

(02:02:05):
My name is Marcus. Welcome, Oh eight hundred eighty ten
eighty nine to nine to de text. Get in touch.
Oh eight hundred and eighty lines are free now if
you want to come through. Marcus. We still have a freezer,

(02:02:30):
a Bonnie, which bought in July sixty nine, just after
I was married, at cost one hundred ninety five dollars.
It's large, twenty three cubic meters. It has been going
every day since. It's still going. It's everything, service or anything.
It surprises me as it may see me out, Charlie,
what our expenses is to run Charlie, cause I would
imagine that much more recent friezes are better insulated. Might

(02:02:55):
be wrong. Oh wait, one hundred eight people are texting
through to offer to buy me a torch, which is
not the point at all, and people a getting quite

(02:03:18):
grisly about that. The point is about stuff. That's about
the discussion about things that need to be able to
be made to be repaired. I wouldn't go buy another
one of those torches. It doesn't work. I don't need
a torch, just need that one fixed. Marcus. I have

(02:03:38):
a seven hundred dollar Yale front door lock and the transparent,
the transclucent teapad has crazed very badly. Yale don't do
a replacement, which sucks. Have to buy a new one, Marcus.

(02:04:01):
My husband brought two lead lens of torches a while back,
really used. We're not walking working out for short time
set to napier and advice corroded, no corrosion on the batteries,
but less many a week to go on the warranty.
So now paying fifty dollars for a new part. My
husband was sent back not able to be repaired. Marcus,

(02:04:27):
the lady who fidded around with her guests water heater,
has caused her home insurance to be null and void.
Only qualified guests for his conservative guess appliance is Chaer's
Bill JT. It's Marcus Good Evening Good.

Speaker 30 (02:04:46):
Marcus best brand of tortures and head lamps are made
by Petzel, a well respected French company.

Speaker 2 (02:04:58):
I take that from you, has been quite important.

Speaker 30 (02:05:03):
They make the lights of ca and mountain climbers use. Yeah,
and I think that all water proof and you can
get the parts with them if you if you want.

Speaker 2 (02:05:14):
To pet Z. Now looks like it's missing a val
but p E t z L Right, yeah.

Speaker 30 (02:05:23):
They sell them at mac pack and both whack and that. Okay,
that's what the experts use. So you buy one of
those and it should like you should get at least
twenty to thirty years. They seem to work all the time.

Speaker 2 (02:05:36):
Have you tried those lead Linza ones?

Speaker 18 (02:05:40):
No?

Speaker 30 (02:05:43):
So what type of torch is it?

Speaker 4 (02:05:45):
What shape is it?

Speaker 2 (02:05:47):
Sort of feels like it's the new meg light one,
but it's got the front but that goes. It's got
a front, but that goes forward and backwards to adjust
your focus. It's quite a sturdy kind of a Yeah.
I think it was sort of quite a premium torture
come about ten years ago, and you know, caused a
bit of a stir. I don't know whether, but you.

Speaker 30 (02:06:06):
Have had eight batteries, How does it if it's like
a Magli, how does it fit?

Speaker 2 (02:06:11):
Eight batteries are the double a's, so there's it's got
double a's stacks of two, so it goes like a
four leaf clover, four shafts of two, so it's about
two inch shaft year.

Speaker 30 (02:06:26):
Yeah, but the type of battery electronic devices like some
of these led torches and cameras and stuff, you want
to use an alkali batteries double A alkali batteries, and
they're labeled as L six or long life because in

(02:06:51):
cold conditions, like those cheaper batteries you buy that are
dis labeled as general purpose, there are only seven hundred
million hours, whereas an alkaline one's two thousands, three hundreds.
So did you have your did you have your LENSA

(02:07:11):
sitting in a damp, cold garage or somewhere, because yeah,
I think it's a corrosion. But also the does does
it have one l ed or does it.

Speaker 7 (02:07:21):
Have got multi one one one l ed.

Speaker 30 (02:07:25):
That's the problem. You don't want.

Speaker 2 (02:07:27):
Rocket only got one.

Speaker 30 (02:07:28):
No one blows your stuffed No good of your caving?

Speaker 2 (02:07:32):
No are you look you are a cave obviously you
want good torches, right, yeah, and.

Speaker 30 (02:07:38):
You always have a backup as well, one or two backups.

Speaker 2 (02:07:42):
And I suppose too with you it's cold and caves
or warmer colder, so it would draw more from the
batteries too, wouldn't it.

Speaker 30 (02:07:51):
Yeah, well that doesn't get super cold like it does outside.
But yeah, I think there's three things that the Wikipedia
said about what affects batteries, and it's it's the conditions,
mainly the temperature, the duty cycle, and the device will
have a cutoff voltage. So if the voltage drops off

(02:08:15):
because of cold weather, I mean a cheap battery, general
purpose battery or even what they call heavy duty battery,
you know, they've only got half the battery life of
an alkali.

Speaker 5 (02:08:30):
So in the.

Speaker 30 (02:08:32):
Conditions that are not suitable. How cold was it when
you tried to use your torch.

Speaker 2 (02:08:38):
Last pretty degrees a right?

Speaker 30 (02:08:43):
Yeah, so you won't walking around about minus two degrees
and bluff.

Speaker 2 (02:08:48):
No, although I don't know where I was when the
first thing stopped working too, so yeah, I don't know
the answer that JT. So yeah, I haven't worked out
when it extra, but it just I bought it with
probably once and the next time didn't go and hasn't
gone since.

Speaker 30 (02:09:04):
That's really annoying when that happens in it.

Speaker 2 (02:09:06):
Yeah, it must be annoying for the listeners listens to JD.

Speaker 4 (02:09:09):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:09:10):
Wait eight, Jason, it's Marcus. Good evening much you see
doing good?

Speaker 5 (02:09:15):
Thanks?

Speaker 28 (02:09:17):
First off, I'd just like to see collecting a thousand
vacuum cleaners is a hobby that really sucks.

Speaker 2 (02:09:24):
Yes, fair enough. Yeah, it's a lot of That's a
that's a big volume of stuff, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (02:09:31):
Oh that's yeah, that's out there mate.

Speaker 5 (02:09:34):
Certainly.

Speaker 28 (02:09:34):
Now your torch again. We talked about it last night
and just what JT was saying a moment ago.

Speaker 21 (02:09:40):
The batteries in that new.

Speaker 2 (02:09:41):
Batteries, yes, yes, yes, all new, all new, because.

Speaker 4 (02:09:47):
All that's going to take is for one battery to
be a know.

Speaker 2 (02:09:51):
I know, yeah, I know all this. Of course they're
going to replace it. I've got I've tested them on
another torch to make sure they're all good.

Speaker 28 (02:09:57):
So and they're all good, yes, yes, well, I mean
you know, l Eds, they are good. But I've got
one on my phone here that I'm talking to you on,
and the LED torch stopped working on that not that
long after I got the phone, So it's probably the LED.

Speaker 2 (02:10:15):
Yeah, okay, bre is it that? Jason? Thank you broom Marcus.
Before anyone throws away on appliance that repairs they can't
be repaired, suggest they try the website needapart dot co
dot m Z. They have helped me out before with
good service. Thank you for that. Twenty three past eleven, Neil,
it's Marcus.

Speaker 31 (02:10:34):
Hello and good evening, gooday, gooday, so persive warm and
talk about the Electrolu sky. Somebody when I lived on
the hill came around and dropped the flyer in the
letter box up on the hill there in Napier and
sees collecting it Electrolux spectrum cleanness if you have one

(02:10:55):
phone such and such a number, which I did, and
the next morning the sky turned up and paid me
forty for it. It was mine, was already and it
was an orange one. It was already too old, you know,
to to really sell to anyone. But he was a click,
it's the same man.

Speaker 4 (02:11:13):
I don't know was it.

Speaker 2 (02:11:15):
Did he say what he was doing with them?

Speaker 31 (02:11:17):
I know, I'm just collecting them. I'm not sure if
it's the same man. This is quite a long time ago.
We actually had six radios. The one I listened to
you on is a large, a large one, built in
CD player, tape deck, all that sort of thing. But
we've got a nineteen forty five Dell radio. Was just

(02:11:41):
the other day I repaired the string that moves the
frequency dollars.

Speaker 2 (02:11:47):
Is it a story? Yes, of course I know, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 31 (02:11:51):
So I repaired it and it's going alrighty game. But
the reason I used the valve sometimes instead of the
big one is because the frequency shift in and out
on your station and then appear and we had a
couple of nights where I couldn't get you do it?

Speaker 2 (02:12:06):
Also, Yeah, wonder why the frequency is not great? Is
it a recent thing? So I'm always king to alert
the text if there's being up with that or is
that standard?

Speaker 31 (02:12:17):
No, it just seems to the atmospheric because of course
we get these storms and what I have you down
our way quite a bit lately.

Speaker 5 (02:12:25):
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 31 (02:12:31):
So the Veil radio was built in nineteen forty five.
My father bought it and he passed it on to
me when I ten, sixteen and nineteen seventy and it's
always been with me. What will tell us to get here?
We we you know, we're kind of a little bit
like the plasticnal become wolf and I built something up

(02:12:54):
to a place that was that didn't quite match. But yeah, no,
it's it's in good shape and it gets a real
clear signal, which is what we want.

Speaker 2 (02:13:05):
Yeah, Neil, nice to hear from you. Thank you for that.
And anyone who's ever got in trouble with the frequency,
let us know because we can get that sort of
twenty eight past eleven, Marcus till twelve, Get in touch
if you've got anything to add. Someone says, interesting lexicography
in the north on and they hoover a room in
the lower mid SOUTHID they lucks. I thought it was

(02:13:26):
the opposite, Marcus. Maybe for another night. Do you know
what's happening to the AM network band in New Zealand?
Presumably it's been phased out. He's got ten more years.
That would be my guess on that one. Twenty eight
away from twelve Jan Marcus evening ere Hi Jan.

Speaker 32 (02:13:48):
Just tell you good piece at Delongi Kettle. There would
be a couple of years old, do you know if
you've seen them in the shop.

Speaker 2 (02:13:57):
Quite a flesh looking one, right, yeah.

Speaker 32 (02:13:59):
Quite nice. It's a pretty really air force blow and
it's sort of it's never at the top and it
sort of comes out as it comes near the bottom.
There's a chrome band round it and it sits on
the you know the electric thing that you can take
it off.

Speaker 5 (02:14:15):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (02:14:16):
I got a picture of one in front of me.

Speaker 5 (02:14:17):
Yep.

Speaker 23 (02:14:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 32 (02:14:19):
Well it leaks like a sieve.

Speaker 23 (02:14:22):
Metal.

Speaker 32 (02:14:23):
The metal must be mat metal from China and the
water has corroded it all and it's rusted well coroded
the inside and as well when you put the lid
on it, it's all round the top and the dial
down the side where it shows you the water the levels,
it's all chalky. It's white chalky.

Speaker 2 (02:14:46):
Where about Jet, Where about day Jan tomorrow? What are
they putting in your water?

Speaker 26 (02:14:52):
I know it's the water.

Speaker 32 (02:14:55):
Yeah, it's shocking and it's the second one I've had
that's done it?

Speaker 2 (02:14:59):
Why do you get a different brand?

Speaker 32 (02:15:02):
I like the one I got because it matches my toasta.

Speaker 2 (02:15:07):
So when you say it's leaked, it hasn't boiled over.

Speaker 32 (02:15:10):
No, it doesn't boil over. If you sit it on there,
the electric thing, Yeah, it'll dribbles out around the side,
So I sit it on a tail. It's made in China, of.

Speaker 2 (02:15:21):
Course, because it does say on the website, right, if
you've got a DeLong eat to just scale it every
three months?

Speaker 32 (02:15:28):
Are there?

Speaker 2 (02:15:30):
Yep? Are you there? Are you there?

Speaker 5 (02:15:43):
Jan?

Speaker 2 (02:15:43):
Jan Jen?

Speaker 32 (02:15:45):
Are there?

Speaker 4 (02:15:46):
Are you there?

Speaker 23 (02:15:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 32 (02:15:47):
The phone sits there at what happened?

Speaker 2 (02:15:49):
Then they'll be onto your big, big big So according
to the yeah are you there, Jane, could you ring back?
H Jen Jen? Jen Jen? I've got some information for you,

(02:16:18):
Jen Jen Jen Jen. Perhaps she's all right, but I'm
gonna I've got some information Jen Jen.

Speaker 4 (02:16:35):
And Jen.

Speaker 2 (02:16:41):
I'll see how I get Jen back Jen Jen h ah,
talk like yourselfspeople. We'll get Jen Jen Jen.

Speaker 32 (02:16:58):
Yes, three, I don't know what happened?

Speaker 2 (02:17:01):
Is not worry about it. So I'm on the website
for DeLonge Eye. Yeah, and it says if a kettle leaks,
it should be descaled on a regular business if you
have hard water, which particularly you have right. Yeah, it
says if you do not want to use a proprietary discaler,

(02:17:23):
we would recommend a solution of one part white vinegar
and two parts of water. Switch the kettle on.

Speaker 32 (02:17:30):
I've already descaled it. It's not on the actual inside.
It's the skin down the outside where the kettle was
sort of made. I suppose you could say that's made
in two I've bought the special step to descale isn't.

Speaker 2 (02:17:44):
Okay, So it's it's still leaking even though you discaled it.

Speaker 32 (02:17:49):
Yep, it's not leaking on the inside of the kettle.
It's the actual outside where it's joined together. When where
they make it, so they're obviously using metal.

Speaker 2 (02:18:01):
We don't know that. But but but doesn't leak for
the inside into the outside. And that's why I say
you've got to scale it.

Speaker 32 (02:18:10):
It's that The inside of the kettle's fine, you can
use it, nothing wrong with it. It's just the outside
of the kettle. H It's sort of made now at
the top and it comes out better at the bottom,
and there's a band around it. It must be to
join the two pieces together. And it must be rotted

(02:18:31):
out between the two joins on the inside. Okay, it's
like the inside skin. I suppose you're the kettle is fine.

Speaker 2 (02:18:41):
I wouldn't buy another one, No, I wouldn't. I've never died.
But you said you're getting another one.

Speaker 32 (02:18:48):
I'll have to get another one, but I won't. I
won't be getting another glonge.

Speaker 2 (02:18:53):
Oh there's your second to long and your third one
won't be a DeLonge.

Speaker 32 (02:18:56):
No, I wouldn't have another one. My daughter's got one
the same similar in Australia and her sasn't. Doesn't. It
must be the meat all in the reaction of the
Timaru water.

Speaker 2 (02:19:09):
What's wrong with the water there?

Speaker 32 (02:19:12):
Well, I reckon we had good water. The something they're
putting something in it. You know they have a dial
down the side where it shows you the water level.
That's gone like all chalk. You could sell the feelers
if you could scrape it off.

Speaker 2 (02:19:26):
It's like a nightmare kettle. I'll throw it away tonight.

Speaker 32 (02:19:29):
Hmm is it's a nightmare.

Speaker 2 (02:19:31):
Okay, nice to talk. Thank you, Jan, Thanks for coming
back to twenty two Away from twelve, jen Jen, I
thought you'd be excited about telling about the scale. It's
already done. It same happened to several our kettles, as
Jan had. Fogginy water was full of lime that eats
away at kettle's. A lot of people have got kettle

(02:19:52):
kettle itch. What's it called kettle kettle, kettle kettle scale.
We haven't got kettle scale. I'll tell you something about
the Invicago water and the Bluff water where the Bluff
water is the in the Cargo water. But it's very good. God,
it's a good drinking water. No complaints. Some of the

(02:20:12):
other aspects of local body government could leave a bit
to be desired, but there's nothing wrong.

Speaker 18 (02:20:17):
With the water.

Speaker 2 (02:20:18):
If I could put that out there. Do you think
we're going to talk about the torch tomorrow night? One
would hope not. Yeah, eight hundred and eighty ten. Any
monumer's markets hit twelve. If you got the international news

(02:20:42):
that you've been seeing on websites, let me know what's
going on. We're getting a whole night out of descaling kettles.
Eighteen to twelve.

Speaker 33 (02:20:55):
Good evening, Neil, Hello, I'm regarding Juan Jan Yes, or
a moment to consume guarantees that poor lass.

Speaker 16 (02:21:09):
She ought to ring the retailer and get a new one.

Speaker 4 (02:21:14):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (02:21:15):
Yeah, I'd say so too. Yeah, most people won't do
that though, well they won't want their whistle.

Speaker 16 (02:21:21):
Well, you know the thing is that when I mean,
I'm an old man, but when you're young and proactive,
you know you're on the line and doing all sorts
of againstuff. Organized. When you get a bit older, you
don't do that. But if she brought it from wherever

(02:21:41):
she bought it from, and I believe and you'll correct
me that you know a product is expected, let me
get this right to last for as long as that
type of product reasonably ought to. It's got nothing guarantee.

Speaker 29 (02:22:03):
I agree.

Speaker 16 (02:22:04):
I don't think it's anything to do with guarante cheese.
It's you know, if John Jan's listening hello love and
ring the shop that you marke it from.

Speaker 2 (02:22:19):
Nice to hear from your Neil. Thank you for that,
Peter at S Marcus Good evening.

Speaker 12 (02:22:23):
Oh, I know, I just a couple of things amazed me.
A lady, you know you're plug in your sink in
your kitchen plug. I went to Bunning's mighty teen and
aerytical plumbing outfit, and all it needs is the rubber
washer there's nothing wrong. Yeah, you know it goes around

(02:22:44):
the bottom of your plug in your kitchen sink, you know. Yeah,
they pulled them out and they tell me, oh, you
can't buy a washer. You have to buy a whole
new plug. And the plug was thirty nine dollars because
I had and all I needed was a washer, and
they say, no, they don't sell the washers. You had
to buy the and I thought, hell, bloody stupid is there.

(02:23:07):
And the other thing is, I can't understand why that
the ink for printers is so expensive, and yet it's
twice now over the year it's been cheaper to buy
a new printer than it is to buy ink for
the old ones. And they try to say that they're
trying to cut down and they land and everything, and

(02:23:27):
you know, you can get a new printer now for
about thirty hundred fifty dollars for quite a good one,
and to get two ink cartridges is something like one
hundred one hundred dollars, you know, for refills. I can't worry, Peter.

Speaker 2 (02:23:44):
Fortunately, in my life I've never had anything to do
with buying a printer.

Speaker 3 (02:23:47):
For that.

Speaker 2 (02:23:48):
I am very very glad. Back to your plug, right,
why did you give up? I would have got online
and bought the damn seal.

Speaker 12 (02:23:59):
They don't sell them. Even the plumber said they won't stay.

Speaker 2 (02:24:01):
They will you find you'd find one online, they could
find I'm sure you could find one.

Speaker 5 (02:24:08):
Well.

Speaker 12 (02:24:09):
I thought Bunning's all might at ten would say when
in a plumbing out, But they said, no, this particular plug,
you have to buy the whole unit.

Speaker 2 (02:24:18):
I don't believe that there'd be some of that. Would
you think in a free world, the land of the free,
the free market would have provided someone that's making those
just for you?

Speaker 12 (02:24:27):
You think?

Speaker 4 (02:24:27):
So?

Speaker 12 (02:24:27):
When't you what happened to you?

Speaker 2 (02:24:29):
Rubber? Did it? Did it perish?

Speaker 12 (02:24:32):
It's about six years old and they had a lot
of use. It's just it's the plub The plug was lethal.
You know, it wouldn't stay. Ye, I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 4 (02:24:45):
Oh god, yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (02:24:48):
I hope you're applied to the salesperson, were you? Oh goodness?
What hit me in the world?

Speaker 5 (02:24:56):
Now?

Speaker 3 (02:24:56):
Jay?

Speaker 2 (02:24:56):
Thirty nine dollars just for a plug? Why can I
just buy the rubber?

Speaker 12 (02:25:00):
That's exactly brutally what I said.

Speaker 5 (02:25:05):
I think you.

Speaker 2 (02:25:09):
Thanks Peters. The old plugs, why do we have those
flesh new plugs. I like the old plugs. It was
just a plug. Now it's kind of got a basket.
What's that about. I've never been that happy with that
that interface anyway, Get in touch. My name is Marcus
Hddle twelve. Marcus same issues in willing and as jan

(02:25:36):
Jen has same model kettle. I reckon you're all you
know what I reckon. I reckon all of you people
that bought that the delongey kettle deserve everything to get
coming to you because a stupid looking kettle. And as
soon as I look, and I can tell it leaks
because it's design over function. As soon as I saw
that kid, I thought, that's gonna leak. Don't even know

(02:26:00):
who owns DeLonge anymore. Just don't ever fill your jug
from the hot tap. Well we know that, Harley, that's obvious.

(02:26:28):
Marcus slightly off topic. We had to make household items
out of art materials in nineteen seventy eight, and a
classmate's mum helped him make a knitted wolen vacuum clean
and filled with stuffing with a knitted power cord, but
with a real plug attached, of course, with a bit
of encouragement, my mate plugged it in and that was

(02:26:50):
the end of the VC and an opportunity to stay
in art class. John, what a great thing to do.
Of course you'd plug it in. Why would you put
a proper plug on it? Marcus, you can buy the
rubber for the plug, got mine at Bunnings. That'll send

(02:27:12):
them off the Marcus. We brought the rubber ring for
our plug at Bunnings two weeks ago. So two calls
from different numbers have come through and they brought the rubber.
That'll make them furious because you have to go back
to the plummet tomorrow and say okay, you can buy
it Bunnings. Someone says, sorry for my ignorance, Why don't

(02:27:33):
you use hot water in a kettle? Could someone explain
that to the person? I think because the water tastes
different because it's been in a cylinder going round and round.
I think you just know because it tastes different. So
there might be a more specific It might be a

(02:27:55):
we don't say wives telling, where that sounds sex is
what do we say? What's the modern equivalent of wives tale?
Probably not one less oxygen in it. And on the

(02:28:15):
safety front, many argued hot water heaters over time, bull up, impurities,
and sludge. Yeah, so you shouldn't ever fill the kid
out of the hot tap, But I don't fully know
what the answer to that is. That's not my specialist topic.

(02:28:35):
But no doubt you could probably spend all the remaining
hours in your life reading comments on the inct about
the pros and cons of filling the kettle from the
hot tap.

Speaker 1 (02:28:46):
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