Mark my words! (2 September 2024)

Marcus has some questions about the weekend's sports, and how to get a barge off the sea floor.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Be welcome, good evening. I've had so much to say,
more than you can imagine on this Monday, and all
sorts of reasons. I'll tell you some of the stuff
throughout the course of the evening, people, but wow, a
lot to say. I've slept for twelve hours, so I
am dangerous. Oh, full of energy and back doing the

(00:34):
Rubik's Cube, not quite yet but almost resolved it. Anyway,
how you're going, people are welcome. Hey, I'm familiar. We
are coming off on the back of sports talk. It's
not often that there is a Test against South Africa.
I watched the Test, and I watched some of the
analysis afterwards with Millsmina and Jeff Wilson, and I can't

(01:00):
remember that they go I speak quite well though, I'll
find out what his name was. But some of the
aftermatch comments, which I thought was good. Actually, I thought
it added a nice context to the match. I don't
I don't necessarily know that it's any of my business

(01:27):
to comment on the hacker and the disrespect of the hacker.
Watching it as a viewer, he didn't realize the plane
going across the top was disrespecting it. The coverage which
closer you could still see it in all its glory,
which is probably fairly important because maybe when the All

(01:47):
Backs are playing away, the hacker is for the people
back home that know that. Now the hacker has become
kind of something that we're familiar with and we used
to So I've kind of got to quite a RESTful
place with the hacker. It's not my business. They want
to do it, good on them. What I would like
them to do is to stop doing it until it
gets until they stopped disrespecting it. That would be my thing.

(02:14):
I mean, they can do what they want. It's their stadium.
They want to fly a plane over and play loud music,
they can, And Chris Rattoo's right, we're all sick of
Sweet Caroline. We don't need that long, stround long music
in the studium. But yeah, I just kind of I thought, well,
I was kind of okay about the knock on. It
clearly wasn't a try, but that's rugby, and that didn't

(02:35):
lose us the match, right, you know, that was fairly
early on and we're ten minutes, ten points up with
fifteen minutes to go, we didn't do well enough in
those last ten to fifteen minutes they would on the
bomb squad we were on. The new squad wasn't quite
the same. So the couple things I wouldn't mind discussing
about that your thoughts on the Hukker because it had
become distraction for a long time. What are they going

(02:56):
to do? Are they going to do this? And it seemed,
you know, are they going to respect it? Are they
going to challenge it? Are they going to turn away?
So it became a big story for about twenty years
since we've started doing the Hugger properly, it has been
all sorts of what will they do well? What will
they do? After course Tanna Umanger took down that guy
after he disrespected it or that was the narrative, and
I thought we'd got to the stage where people thought

(03:16):
it was good for rugby. People enjoyed it and it
was good. It was done well. The All Blacks took
it seriously and the other players took it seriously. So
if suddenly South African Rugby have decided to fly an
Emirates to jet, the sponsor's jet over the stadium during it,
then maybe if I was the team and I'm not.
It's their decision because apparently people around the world love it.

(03:37):
That's a big part of world rugby is seeing the hucker.
So far with them pepsi'd park it, say our next
couple of years, We're not going to do it until
you actually show that you can respect it. That would
be me. And I wonder if you've got a comment
to make about that, because I'd be curious to know,
because I don't like it. I don't like it to
become a topic. I don't like it to become, you know,

(04:00):
something that becomes disrespected or taken out of context. That
would be my take on that one. The other situation,
also to a lot of people discussed it. Since the
all Black test is player eligibility. It seems as though
that the South Africans have all these weathered, seasoned, hardy

(04:21):
rugby players and the Fords that can play elsewhere. They
can go and play professionally in Europe and whatever, because
their timeframes are good and the same and they can
come back and tests they play eligibility rule. Eligibility rules
are slightly different. I haven't got a firm opinion on that,
but I don't think it would have hurt us that
perhaps if you're over thirty and you want to go

(04:44):
with your family to go to Japan and enjoy that
culture and the sushi and YadA yadia and make some
more coin, you should be able to do that. But
if you want to come back and play, then that
wouldn't be bad for the All Black team. I think
probably be very every good thing for the All Black
team to get those senior people, those ten minute torpedoes

(05:06):
that can off the bench and they can lift the
team at the end. And I guess what the rugby
union needs to do is I need to work out
whether they want to win the World Cup or they
want to have great players staying home and playing Super
fifteen which no one watches, or perhaps even in PC.
So you've got any comments on those things, wouldn't mind

(05:26):
hearing from me the numbers oh eight hundred eighty ten
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to hear from you. Get in touch oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty nine two nine tu to dicks. The
disrespecting of the hucker and player eligibility. I thought it
was a good match. I loved watching It was extremely

(05:47):
quality rugby. Enjoyable, loved it, enjoyed seeing Sam came back
there for the full game, although of course he did
put the so African captain. He's not playing next week,
I think because of the head knock which wasn't seen.
Oh by the way too, I don't know if anyone
else saw. I happened to watch the Warriors. I wasn't
expecting much. The first half wasn't good, but gee, the

(06:08):
second half was magical, absolutely magical. It was. It was
I don't even know what it was. It was a
guy with his farewell match and it was a fairy tale.
They bet crnal Are at Shark Park and then behind
by about twenty four points. It was marvelous. It was
a fantastic watch anyway. Getting touch you on a commat

(06:31):
my name is Market's hadle twelve oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty nine two nine two ticks and joined
my coffee without milk because I tell you what I
might have told you. We're moving. We're moving buildings. Everyone
else's moved, but this is the last show on. But
they've moved everything. The French, the lot for cheapest creepers.

(06:52):
I feel like I'm in a student flat that's been
kind of disassembled. There's nothing here. They've even taken the
soundproofing off the inside of the studio. So if from
sounding slightly woody, it's because they've taken the baffel away. Yeah,
cheapest creepers in decent haste up for everything tonight and

(07:16):
I wait one hundred and eighty eighteen nine nine detext
But at first, wouldn't mind just your discussion after the
back of the rugby and what some of you thought
there about that. I didn't watch it live or watched
it at six, but managed to stop everyone where I
was staying no and told us what the result was.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
That was good.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
So I lasted about five minutes from the end before
I googled the result. Yeah, that made the last five
minutes bearable. Anyway, do get in touch you want to talk.
My name as Marcus hitd on midnight, I ndred eighty
and nineteen ninety to text. Be good to hear from you,
by the way I see her in that time of

(07:56):
the year where the tennis players are disrespecting the ball
people or the ball boys or the ballcarriers. Never God, Marcus,
welcome and good evening. Hi Matt.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Here you get Marcus, the disrespect to the Harker, You've
got a the all Blacks went and did a prayer
for the Mary King who had died.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Ah, I didn't hear I saw them doing that. I
didn't know who that was for. Okay, yes, thank you.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah, And so everything was five minutes behind. So the
heck is, if it all worked out well, the Harker
would have been done and then the flyover. Okay, okay,
So it happened at the same time.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
So there's been some mischief making about that. Is that
your is that your own theory to come up with
that or as someone as someone in command said, that's
what happened.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Oh no, no, no, I was. I was listening to
Heather dup c Allen this afternoon, and yeah, it was.
They did. They did a little prayer which put everything
about five minutes behind.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
But the preer wasn't that long. But it was only
about the pre wasn't long at all. So I just wonder,
because often you people ring up and say stuff. You
don't actually know the facts, do you. That's that's the
trouble with you.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
I don't know, yah, But I just don't think they
were trying to disrespect the harker. I thought timing was wrong,
and after the hack of the plane should have come
over and the fireways go off and it's any different.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
It seemed to me the rugby got off on time.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Yeah, I'm not saying that. I just don't think they
were trying to be disrespectful. I just think the timing
was totally wrong.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Okay, well, it's interesting, but thank you for that. Keep
it going, the hacker, and also to the eligibility if
we want, because of course the bomb squads, ah, dear
players roll. Our players were all brand new guys, had
no experience from there were two of the players, but
most of the players haven't had much experience at all
because we haven't got the old hard and souls because

(10:12):
they're all off in Japan taking the coin. But good
on them. I suppose they are professionals. They've got the
rest of their life to live with head knocks and
the rest. Jamie, it's Marcus.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Good evening, good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Say you're going good.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Thank you, Jamie, Amy yep, loud clear.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Okay, yep, yeah, I am just you know, just about
this eligibiliti thing. It's I think when news other rugby,
it's sort of a little bit between the rock and
a hard place. I mean, you want the best players
to be playing the super rugby and all that, because
the struggles enough as it is. But then you, like
you said, it's like for the All Black Sits, we

(10:53):
were like we were kind of making the experience, especially
off the bench at the weekend. I mean I thinking
sort of like a I don't know, like maybe you'd
like if you say, play a certain number of tests
or pay for the events for a number of years,
maybe between fifty to sixty, and maybe I don't know,

(11:14):
maybe just say if you can you can, maybe you
have them and maybe say it's a bit three or
four at a time of the squad.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Wouldn't you think about an idea like that?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I think it's fine. I think that's perfect. There just
be some number or even with an age like Aaron Smith.
He'd be thirty, wouldn't he? But would Bowden bear it be?
What if he's just over thirty you can play over
season still be eligible. That would work, wouldn't it.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I mean, yeah, like you said, they gave, they've given
like well, I think they've both given over ten years. Yeah,
I mean we want to. We want to try and
keep Super Rugby as bible as possible as well, though,
But is that what.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
It's all about? That is that why they have got it.
It's not in PC because they're not in that stage.
It is for Super Rugby, is it. That's why they
want to keep them in New Zealand?

Speaker 7 (12:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:05):
I think so. It's like, yeah, they want to because
it's struggling enough for crowd numbers as it is, and
and yeah, yeah maybe they could. Yeah, it's it's a
hard one that but I think I can sort of see.
We don't want to open the probably don't want to
open the flood the flowgates completely, but maybe just like

(12:28):
have a maybe just like have a sick criteria and
maybe if I have a just just a few that
could you come in.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I mean, they have done, they have done. They have
done on an individual basis. The lip player is one
of the barretts to go away for a while and
play over seats, haven't they? So maybe that's the answer,
but it's yeah, it's a shame if that's the rule,
that's going to mean we start losing matches. We haven't
won a World Cup for a while now. Nice to
talk to Jamie. Thank you twenty past eight, Chris, thanks
for hanging on there. It's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 7 (12:58):
Yeah, hell yeah, good Chris.

Speaker 8 (13:02):
Little right. I actually agree with you with the with
the hacker. I don't. I think it should be sort
of compulsory when when you know, teams come over to
New Zealand because it is a hugger, it is a challenge.
But I think it's I think it's kind of seen
as best days to be honest with you overseas, and

(13:24):
you know, it does not really have a lot of
respect when It's interesting when you watch a lot of teams,
the camera goes through a lot of the other team
members and opposition, they don't really kind of have the
same respect and in awe of the All Blacks, is
it as it used to have in the past. It's

(13:46):
kind of like it's kind of lost its luster and
it's lost its respect. Interestingly enough, when watching the Walk Cup.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, Chris, I would disagree with you. I thought, I thought,
because I often felt that, and I thought it's come.
I thought it sits in a more it sits in
a more comfortable place. Now. I thought people have enjoyed it.
That the that the audience got right into either racking
them up and you know, making noise or whatever. I
thought people were. I thought it had reached a much

(14:15):
more acceptable place, that people thought it had become a
part of world rugby. Yea, I thought, yeah, I thought
they'd realized it meant a lot to the team, and
they respect the All Blacks. And I thought that people
have mainly been fairly respectful of it, not trying to
take away its power. I thought the Argentina, the Argentinians
looked really moved by it. I thought the English look
moved by Yeah. I thought it's been I thought it's

(14:37):
been without instant the last ten years.

Speaker 8 (14:39):
Oh you know when I look, for example, you know,
with the you look at the results with the All Blacks,
it's just kind of lost as luster now. And you know,
I'm involved with rugby and that the feeling is amongst
a lot of the people. As Luke, you know, it
really should be done here. Haka is not really for

(15:02):
entertainment purposes, and that's what it's kind of becomes kind
of lost as culture all.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
I think, you know what I mean, I would challenge
that because I think the team itself seemed to be
very much behind it. They seem to be the one
that's driving it, and they seem to be performing it
very well. They're obviously spending time practicing it. So I
think it's probably something the team has chosen to concentrate on.
I think we need to respect that they want to

(15:27):
do that.

Speaker 8 (15:29):
What's the point What is the point of the hacker
when you're going over to Ireland and you're doing it
in the in Viva Stadium whatever, and you're doing it
in Alice Park, and so what is the point? What?

Speaker 9 (15:42):
What?

Speaker 8 (15:42):
What value? Do?

Speaker 4 (15:45):
What value?

Speaker 8 (15:45):
What they have to to to the team's actual performance,
Because I guess.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
I guess it's tradition. I guess I guess it's something
that's always been done and that's tradition. And I guess
for a country we're probably a new country, I guess
probably tradition is quite important. That would be my take
on it. It's got marketing aspects and stuff like that,
and yeah, I probably was a bit more ambivalent, a
bit more like you over the years, but I'd probably
come to a much more resolved place with it, and

(16:15):
I think it's pretty good. But I just think probably
if they're not respect he just stopped doing it, there'd
be my take on it. I see no one's asking
or saying that the coach needs to be sacked. I
think that's refreshing. I'm quite happy about that. I'm quite
happy about for help. I thought he did quite what
a front of the cameras. He's quite good on carey.

(16:37):
You know he's got a twinkle in his eye, doesn't
He's not too grumpy? Is your hick year up for
the next week's challenge? On the good on them, didn't
go on about the obvious knock on, you know, I mean,
what an unenview, what an uninviewed position to be in

(16:59):
a pohatu Marcus, welcome, good evening, Acus, good, thank you yourself.

Speaker 10 (17:07):
I'm wanting for just.

Speaker 11 (17:08):
In regards to the hooker. As the man before said,
it is traditionally as you know, but the hoker was
done during the Wars. You know, it was done all
over the world. It's being done all over the world,
and it's about there are different parts to a huker, respect, love, hate,
however you choose it to be. And the beauty of
the hacker is a challenge of everybody. So when people

(17:30):
are a challenges us in any way, cool, bad, right
or wrong. The hacker is standing up. And the last
thing about the hooker, which is the most important, It
is a cultural thing. It's the spearhead that people take
around the world to connect to the world, back to here,
New Zealand or Pildory, you know. So there's lots and

(17:51):
lots of reasons why the hooker is a great thing.
And I love it when people have a go out
ask you. You know, I'm multi. I'm very proud multi
now if we two are very proud. But here is
the thing that I know. It awakens the soul all
of all other cultures, That awakens the wider of all
other peoples. And so they react, and fair enough, they

(18:12):
should be allowed to react in what every way they choose,
because that's a choice.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
However or hard too. It seems as though we've got
this narrative now and it seems like the media, Oh, well,
they're flowing a plane over to disrespected. I reckon, they
probably didn't do that. I reckon that's probably not something
that happened. I think that's probably well above the player's
pay grade anyway, And I don't think that they've done
that I mean that might be a deal with sponsorship.

(18:39):
But it's funny that suddenly, you know, I mean, yeah,
I don't know what opinion.

Speaker 11 (18:45):
My opinion. The South Africans have a huge respect for
the all blacks. I no, no, that's not how it unfolded.
And you know, I've been watching it since I can remember.
You know, I'm a rugby and rugby leaguement actually, so
I believe that was just more of a mistake in
the moment than anything else. But getting back to the
hooker itself, the hooker is taken world by storm and

(19:08):
I will do it every day and every time. And
the boys and their team because I know a lot
of them personally. When I talk about the hucker, it's
the passion. That's who they are, and that's the desire.
And let me tell you something, if you hucker, well,
you win well.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Chris Marcus, welcome, I.

Speaker 12 (19:23):
Marcus, Chris.

Speaker 8 (19:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (19:26):
I just think as a South African, I quite enjoy
the Harker. Ever since I was a kid, you know,
living in South Africa, I thought it was you know,
great and but actually you know, we think it was
just all blacks did it. But coming you know to
New Zealand. You know, the kids do it and they
do it in schools rugby, and yeah, I just think
it's it's it's it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Have you been to all black matches in South Africa?

Speaker 8 (19:49):
No?

Speaker 12 (19:50):
I haven't been to an all black destination.

Speaker 9 (19:51):
No.

Speaker 12 (19:53):
But yeah, I don't think it was a you know, disrespecting.
I mean, if if you look look at the spring Boks,
you know, they were like standing, you know, just observing.
And I think as a as a fan, you know,
maybe when the plane come over, the fireworks startup, you know,
you just sort of it gets out of hand. You know,
it's rarity and because everyone's sort of chet and but
I don't think it was intentional, you know.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
And maybe that's something that is Kiwi's and as Kiwi
reporters and journalists, we need to not be so fixated
on I think the whole oh well, they've disrespected that
because maybe that's not what they were doing, and maybe
people are just trying to go to that to try
and get some outrage, which is probably I suspect probably
what happened. Good for good one for your team, Chris.

Speaker 12 (20:37):
Yeah, well yeah, it was a good game.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
It was a great game and that's the main thing.
That was close, right, That's what you want, a game
that's close right to the end. I'd rather that guy. Well,
and I guess both teams got something they've been for
ten didn't they.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
That evens it all out too. So it's the same
minutes of players on each side. No red cards. I
thought it was a rip. Yeah, can't work out. White
side got out there. Google. It's eighteen hundred meters high
that city. It's high stadium, a fancy building. Why they
build that, Chris? Why do they build that city in

(21:11):
such a high place.

Speaker 13 (21:15):
I don't know, Okay, I'll find out.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Must be mining or something, or flat land. I don't know.
I don't know much about the geography of South Africa.
I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Looks pretty damn fascinating. Actually, they've got trains. It's a
good thing. On the other top, I go on, what
with all these guys? What's with stolen valor? Happens all
the time that people wear middle they're not supposed to,
and you're supposed to wear them. I mean, you can

(21:47):
wear Granddad's meddles, but you wear them on the other side,
you wear them on the right side, not the left
side or vice of visa. But I see now one
of the guys, one of the head biscuit at the
RSA Roden. Because there's people out there that look at
your meddles. Make sure you've got the right ones. And
this guy's got more than he should have. Marcus. Of

(22:11):
course the plane flyer was planned. Get real, this is
the nineties or haven't you noticed?

Speaker 14 (22:15):
I quite like that.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Oh God, there's some nostalgia hounds, aren't there. Seventies eighties
all Blacks played club rugby, for God's sake, then Provincial
Ken Stuart Belfer, Lester Rutledge, right Sposh, Steve Pokery, the Blues,
Brian mckinckney, Star Ash McGregor, Wykaia, etcetera, etcetera. Today's Abies

(22:46):
wouldn't know their clubs. Well that's not going to happen,
is it. Because there's too many concerns about players play
a welf where they don't want to play thousands of games.
They want to play a few games every year. They
don't want to play club I've been super and tests

(23:08):
and all that sort of stuff because they just don't
want to do it. Because I think there's head knocks
and there's breaks and stuff like that, and they've got
to keep themselves in a good state when they go
into their living life after rugby, they're still in one piece.
And I mentioned probably you'd want to do the same
wich if you're playing at a net level. That'd be

(23:28):
my take. What about baseball though, how many games they play?
Mind you, the pictures are always off having Tommy John surgery,
aren't they, But yeah, that's sport, Marcus. Joe Burg is
established on a gold reef that runs through the area.
A black name for this region is Egulli, which might

(23:49):
be gold from Alan Trotter Marcus. I think the Hocker
was awesome with them cheering and doing their best to
get in our heads the crowdit The Houcker was good
and made for a for a fantastic start. I think

(24:11):
the fly over ninety five where the plane was awesome,
has had a South African flag and we'll never forget that.
This was at Emirates Stadium and they fly over doing
an advert for Emirates during the Hucker. It was cheesy
and a promo for Emirates, not South africause I didn't
like that. It was pretty commercial. I wondered how close
the airport was and was it a flight just landing

(24:32):
or was it deliberately set up? And what it would
have cost. I was running what it would have cost
for a flyover? How much to get a seven to
sixty seven up to fly it over like that? Goodness, Hi,
Craig Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 14 (24:47):
Back at evening.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
How's it going this evening?

Speaker 7 (24:49):
Good?

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Thank you, Craig. Thanks for asking.

Speaker 13 (24:51):
Not bad at all, that's good.

Speaker 6 (24:53):
Yeah, not many people ask. I thought it's best to ask,
you know. I was actually going to let you know
that I did. I've got quite a few friends are
from South Africa, but other ticks. So you just read
it before con beat me to it. Tohannesburger to be
a native village and then they found gold. It was
it was basically Jehannisburg was basically creator in about eighteen

(25:15):
eighty six.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Population in that.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
Well lot too certain now and used to know what
it was a while ago, but everything's increased nowadays. But
it used to be like a little village with a
I think from memory it was a Red Cross medical
thing there for the people in the era. And then
they found gold and then all hell broke loose and yeah,
turned into what it is now.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
So how the city? How can the city go from nowhere,
not even be on the coast and have seven million
people in it? That's unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
Well, you've got to think as soon as they strike gold,
you're gonna have a lot of people coming in and
doing that and sitting up shops and town probably pubs
and all kinds of weird stuff. And it sort of
grew from there.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
I suppose, Well they reckoned with gold that we with gold.
Where you make the money is in the service industries
a put bars and water and bordellos and all that
sort of stuff.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
I think, Yeah, she's got places like in Australia like
Alice Springs wouldn't really have populate anywhere if they had
actually found a whole lot of minerals and stuff there
as well. So I guess it's good for some people.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
But yeah, but there's now in Australia. Would like there's
no inland towns in Australia with more than a million people.
It's weird that because you don't normally get inland town
cities that are so populous. That's what I can't work out.
I mean, where else where else? Have you got a
might that that might just be Africa. It might have
more rainfall, it might be cooler, it might be more

(26:36):
habitable than a lot of the places like in South Africa,
like Lone Fontine.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
I guess being higher altitude is probably going to have
a sort of slightly cooler climate than down below.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
It might get a.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
Slightly higher rainfall rainfalls from in there. But yeah, it's
quite popular.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Incredibly popular, six million people living there.

Speaker 6 (26:57):
Yeah, well, I guess it's probably going to be a
few hundred thousand dollars to get a like a commercially
if just fly over for that.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
So you think so, you'd think so, wouldn't you? You
think like half a mill or something, wouldn't you.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
Well, the amount of fuel those things burn, and then
you got had to like keet clearances and all that,
and air traffic clearances and things like that, and you've
got to pay the pilots, and yeah, it's probably just
a commercial one coming into land and just bad timing.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I think, well, I kind of work out how close
the airporters have been looking on Google Maps to work
out where the airports and how they would have run
aed it. I thought it was a pretty interesting thing
to do.

Speaker 6 (27:34):
Yeah, I can't remember from from memory. I can't remember
the nearest airport that would service a large bowing aircraft
on that.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Have you been Have you been to Johannesburg.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
No, I've got relatives who are over there, and I've
got quite a few friends in New Zealand they're from there.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
And wow, where they go back.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
When they go back and see family and bring me
back a little a little souvenir things and all that
sort of no, no, no, come more like souvenirs and
things like that. And then one of them that was
a little model of the Johannesburg up in the mountain there,
all made out. I think it's clay some of that,
and it's quite a little details. But yeah, it's interesting.
But I think I want to live there. I'm sort

(28:15):
of afraid of lions and things, Thatchy, How could you
be afraid of.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Lions when you've never experienced lions. I'm only afraid of
things that I know.

Speaker 6 (28:25):
I've been to that to run a park down and
cross it, No, No, Well, when they put them jump
on the bonnot of the car and start eating something
in front of you, like a big bow and you think,
well that could be me, and you're like, yeah, maybe not.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Okay, nice tear from here. Joe Burg always key to
talk about that. So haven't you given it a much thought?
I guess having to get on them everything, whereas they
keep going on at the high Velt and all this
and el but it's a big city. I think they've
been playing a bit of ride Regis in the audience.
Do you hear them playing a bit of that anyway?
Get in touched by him as Marcus welcome and player

(29:01):
eligibility and also the medals stolen velor. I love that
as an expression, but it's a pretty sifty thing to
do to make out that you've actually fought in some
battle with dignity, and countries take it really seriously. They've
all got stolen valor acts and people get really shifty

(29:23):
on it, and I kind of understand that. Also, I'm
not going to know that's not going to be the
cross eye die on as to campaign about stolen valor.
I is a former Rolston RSA president accused of metal cheating.
It's not the first time this news story comes about
every year with different people, normally from RSAs. Also, yeah,

(29:46):
mind you probably get napped these days to work out
compare someone's medals with their service. Wouldn't be surprised if
that doesn't happen. By the way, with my tour of Rolliston,
didn't see the RSA. And by the way, what about
that pizza that Domino's is doing. That's a hamburger. Yeah,

(30:07):
I mean it's just brutal. The pizza takeaways are dominating
fast food and now they've done I mean now they're
actually taking on the burger places with that hamburger pizza. Well,
now that happened in a meeting, so we might be
losing market share to these gourmet burger places. Let's do
a burger on a pizza that's inspired. If I thanks

(30:32):
the person that gave her their heads up that the
subway are back doing the subdog looks good, It's there
you go, now, Subway, that's a bit of a re envision.
That's what they want to be doing. My head back
off to Moscule Subway for a subdog. Marcus. Did you
notice that of the fireworks and flame flowers during the

(30:53):
harker as well? And the Domino's burger actually very nice,
especially as soon as the end of the oven had
two four, two weeks ago, quite surprised. The biggest criminals
are the royals with stealing valor Marcus du Bay Emirates

(31:19):
many worth many millions. The princes would have had the
plane fly over without a thought of the cost. Marcus.
Just as a matter of interest about the abs, they
are only allowed to play golf and carts to prevent
injuries where they considering the crazy game they play. Didn't

(31:41):
know that. And also I love this fast food places
not staying in their lane. Now Dominoes has done a
hamburger pizza well, should probably be cheaper and more delicious.
I don't know what, in fact, the burger places should do.
They should be doing a pizza burger, which should have

(32:02):
a pizza title pizza. Don't know what the I don't
know what the I don't know what the reciprocal thing
is they ought to be doing it. I love this
people to mess it up. It's like Fancy McDonald's beating
KFC with the nuggets, I mean, cheap hat. How to
management hold that one down? What don't you think of

(32:23):
doing the well? Anyway, That's what I'm about tonight, and
the subway subdog flip. You need a double bacon, cheeseburger pizza.
I only know about this kind of seeing the ads
during the rugby, I thought that looked delicious. Might be

(32:44):
behind the times, but I'm all finding extremely exciting. Oh
eight hundred and eighty ten eight James at this, Marcus
good evening, Marcus real good. Thanks.

Speaker 7 (32:56):
Just just prickingly is it when you see the Royals?
Someone a text.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
I don't know what that's referring to.

Speaker 8 (33:06):
Well, I think I might know.

Speaker 7 (33:08):
You see, like, whenever the Royals appear in public, especially
the men have absolutely covered in medals, and I sort
of wonder, well have they earned them? And I remember
Harry who's one of my favorite Royals too. His regiment
went to Iraq, but he wasn't allowed to go. Yeah,

(33:32):
when he stayed home and it was a big there
was news about that, and I thought, well, if there too,
if they are too valuable to be exposed to a battle,
then how do they get these medals? And I don't
think I suspect the Royals haven't into the spling that

(33:54):
they parade about them. Seemed very fake to me.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Harry had quite a lot of service, didn't.

Speaker 7 (34:01):
He, Well, I mean, but this the service in the
service isn't there training and all sorts of things, but
being in battle and earning a medal something quite different.
And I tend to think the Royals don't do that,
So I think the medals are fake in the effort.
What do you reckon? Well?

Speaker 2 (34:22):
I thought Harry did have service in Afghanistan, but he
had to be careful. It had to be undercover because
he was such a time.

Speaker 7 (34:31):
He might have been Afghanistan, but there was there was
a new story that he wasn't allowed to go to
Iraq with his regiment because of the risk. Now I
don't know if that's true or not, but that was
news several years ago.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Didn't he kill a whole of people in Afghanistan as
part of a service? That was probably they've put in
this biography.

Speaker 7 (34:51):
Maybe yeah, I think one of them did. One of
them was a helicopter pilot or something.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I think they all were. I think that's what the
family doesn't think. Andy, Randy Andy, he was there in
the Falklands and the chopper. I think William was in
the helicopter and I think Harry was to remember there's
that video when and he's actually been interviewed and then
the sirens go off became a meme at the nightclub
when your favorite song comes on and there's airy running
off and eligibility for rule blacks. Yea, why don't we

(35:21):
have a bond squad of the old souls that come on.

Speaker 15 (35:26):
Love that.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
I'm sure what will happen is I'll change the rules.
Maybe they won't. People seem to quite like that. I mean,
I guess it's something that could happen. They could change
the rules, but heaven so far. Actually, I've got to
mention this earlier on today, so i will mention. I
will mention that there's a couple of kind of South
Island news stories, ongoing news stories that people might have

(35:49):
some information about. One is the bushfire and wipe Itter.
It's burning for the fifth day. Forestry block broke out Thursday,
remains uncontained eighty five hectares. It's a big deal. Strong
winds are all strong winds coming up the country. Also,

(36:10):
bush's blowing. But that's a news story of interest to me.
By the way, there's a fireban and canda refireban in
the first spring or second to day. It was probably
out yes days. It's big news. Also, there is a
situation with this dredge, this powered dredge. It's gone aground

(36:36):
off Westport. Now it's interesting that because on some of
the maritime focused pages I've been visiting, they reckon it
might be very hard to remove. Yeah, actually it's not

(36:59):
a dredge, it's a barge. Sorry, But the barge that's
gone aground at Westport, they reckon it could be a
total loss. That was just one comment on one website.
I don't actually know what it's doing, and I think
it's probably adjacent to a topic we have talked about previously.

(37:21):
So it's taking sand across the bar and taking it
to Nelson. Westland Mineral Sands is the outfit. What are

(37:42):
they looking for? Are they precious metals? Do I know
anything about that? During the rare earth say so, we
won't know anything about Westland Mineral Sands or the barge.
I'll be curious to know. I don't know a lot
about west but I feel we've talked about it.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I have got an article back that says the West
Coast frost bulk shipment of heavy mineral sand sits south
for Asia on October third, twenty six thousand tons of
all concentrate from Westland Mineral Sands mine north of Westport.
So the mine's north of Westport, making the journey from
Port Nelson to China for processing to extract ilmanite garnet
another high value industrial commodities. Where's the mine and where's

(38:42):
the money? Must have been a corn if they've got
that barge with eleven staff on. Find that fascinating. So
you got some information about that. They had been busting
it to Nelson, now they're barging it out. So yeah,

(39:10):
a lot of those sands are kind of full of
heavy metals, so you've got some information about that. Let
me know about that. Yeah, precious minerals. So they're getting
stuff out of Graymouth as well, but everyone knows where

(39:30):
they are mining. I'd be really keen to have some
more information about they find that quite fascinating. Westland Mineral
Sands joy been game for about three months the new
service and then they must ship them. They must take

(39:53):
them to and then check them on a bulk tanker
or something. Yep, a minor and exporter of rare earth
products self propelled barge. You don't to it, but yeah,
if you've got some information about that, would love to
hear from you. Yeah, I found that I came away

(40:16):
from the sport. I thought over a week in high
with the sport. I thought the rugby was a fantastic match,
exciting right to the end, and boy the rugby league
for a team that underperformed the Warriors, it was huge expectations.
But that last match well and he spoke well at
the end of the game. Sean Johnson, he must have seen,
you know, he must have had a lot of injuries,

(40:37):
because there was a couple of games he had in
the pocket, but not like last year when he seemed
to be great all through the year. So yeah, I mean, unfortunately,
the good thing about Shawn Johnson's last game is se
he would have felt, you know what a fantastic final
chapter to leave on such a winning note. Got three
of the kicks I think from right at the sideline. Also, however,

(40:58):
I thought a bit about this today. The bad thing
for Sean Johnson as he will be thinking, well, I
probably could have had another year in it because he
played fanantastically. All the lines are free if you want
to a pine about anything tonight, Welcome people. My name
is Marcus headed twelve tonight. Hope spring's going well for you.

(41:19):
Marcus and make couldn't care less about the all about
losing warriors, not making the eight as the greatest scan
of very disappointing, Zay. I can feel your pain, Zaine.
How's old Timu going to if and doubt mentioned Timu?
I reckon this year. You know how people right always
bought presents for the garbies, the rubbishpin person and for

(41:39):
the post. It's probably about time we started buying Christmas
presents for the Courier because we see them that often,
and you know it would be a good place to
get presents for the Courier, Timu. So while you're here,
I've just ordered this for you. Be a very good
thing to do. Although they probably want boo they probably

(42:01):
want booze or money. Anyway, Andy, it's Marcus. Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 14 (42:07):
Do you get it?

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Andy?

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah, yeah, good, thank you.

Speaker 14 (42:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (42:12):
I've just been listening on my way up to work
in the Rupai region and just listen to your story
about then old stolen valor and stuff. I'm an ex
soldier and I was fortunate enough to go in a
couple of overseas deployments and that and what I've noticed,
especially on the rights of the ends out days and stuff.

Speaker 7 (42:35):
Is that.

Speaker 10 (42:37):
There was a period of period there where a lot
of troops or a lot of soldiers didn't get to
deploy overseas. And there's been a couple of times I've
turned up and having my medals that have earned on
a couple of campaigns. The jealousy of those people that

(42:59):
didn't get to sue overseas. I mean they sued their country.
You know, they've signed up and they some of them
had twenty thirty years by service, but never actually got
to go anywhere. I kind of think that's maybe what
happened to make down Rollerston there. He's probably missed out
and yeah, just needed.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
To be Yeah, and they can't handle that. They can't
handle Does it feel that all their time was wasted?
I suppose there might be that if you if you
sign up for thirty years you don't go into combat
or don't go overseas, it might mess with the mind.
It might mess with the minder, bit, mightn't it.

Speaker 16 (43:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (43:34):
Yeah, I mean I'd been confronted a couple of times
by some old guys because I went to each team
or and also to Bosnia, and it was when I
talked about what my medals were in inst them. And
that's the fact that I said I went to Bosnia
went oh, yeah, wow, how was that? And then I said,
I also went too the Themoor that wasn't a real

(43:56):
There wasn't a real tour.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Okay, okay, So they're trying to they're trying to me
demean the medals you've got.

Speaker 10 (44:03):
Yeah, and so you know, i'd have to tell them
what I got up to and everything, and I'd say
it wasn't wasn't fun. But I mean we didn't see
a lot of action, but you know that we did
have college that lost your laws over there and then
as well, so yeah, yeah, so I just.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I would feel I would
feel sorry for because it seems quite a sad. I'd
feel sorry for I'd feel sorry for them rather than angry.
If I was a well I don't know what it's
like to be in service, but yeah, wa'ts your reaction
to people that are doing this, Wow, I.

Speaker 10 (44:32):
Just won't say, sort of shoot me down. And I
was like, well, bug, you sort of mean. But I
mean I can see the frustration too. You know, all
the training that you go through and all that, and
you're ready to go all the time, but just just
as the period there where there was nothing happening overseas
what there was stuff happening, but un wasn't committed to it.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
So actually, probably with our lack of a lot of
combat recently, probably there aren't that many is there aren't
as many medals on show, are there because we haven't
been in that much combat.

Speaker 10 (45:05):
Yeah, well it's not so much of the combat side
of things as well. Stuff here. And I was just
thinking about to the story about you know, the Royals
and all that. When I was in Bosnia. I was
attached to the British Army over there, and they would
send junior officers over for two weeks just to get

(45:26):
a medal to wear on their march out parades.

Speaker 8 (45:30):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Yeah, so there's this that that sounds a bit sketchy.

Speaker 10 (45:36):
Yeah, they spend a certain period of time instead of
for it. You can receive or you're eligible for the
medal that we may be going for that campaign. And yeah,
so we had this young officer I was on a
winter tour. He come over fresh out of the factory
and said, I want to go on some foot patrols

(45:59):
because it was Bosio was covered in snow and ice,
we couldn't drive anywhere, right, we'll take you out on
the patrol. And yeah he was super excited everything and
which was all good and everything, but yeah, he just
wanted to be able to experience stuff out there. Do
you reckon quite interesting?

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Do you reckon get getting medals or the achievement of
medals is quite a big deal to some people in
the services.

Speaker 10 (46:28):
Yes, yep, this is a bet of both.

Speaker 14 (46:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (46:33):
For me, I'm definitely proud of what I did, and
you have one show ent day as one as my
father's medals and my granddad. So yeah, it's I mean,
that's just the way of yeah, well I think about it. Yeah. Yeah,

(46:55):
the guys, guys and girls that are that servia are
definitely proud of what they do and like like wearing
the gongs.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
That's too for me, anything that illuminating. Appreciate it. Good evening, Lois,
it's Marcus.

Speaker 13 (47:10):
Welcome, Good evening, Marcus. How are you You're all good luck?

Speaker 2 (47:14):
We're good, Thanks Los.

Speaker 13 (47:16):
I'm ringing up about the rugby. I haven't been listening
long and I've seen it on and you say, o god,
so I didn't get the whole conversation. You think that
this Sall Bread team is going to be a good
one and we're going to win the World Cup. Yep,
not going to happen, Marcus, not going to happen.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
We won't know that.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
We won't know though, will we because you are, you
are in this conversation in three years time?

Speaker 10 (47:47):
Will we?

Speaker 13 (47:47):
So where are going to listen to me?

Speaker 4 (47:50):
Please?

Speaker 13 (47:52):
What are you going to do after Nick sayt today
when they play the spring Boxing get beaten again? Because
it's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
But it'll be fine. We've got a good coach, we'll
rebuild the a new players coming a problem lost you
calm down. He's only had one, two, three, I am,
he's only had six games. Give a guy a chance.

Speaker 13 (48:17):
He said six games. I thought you don't hear four.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Well, I'm just trying to think he must have played.
Did we played England three times in Argentina.

Speaker 13 (48:27):
You're not going away.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
So Lowis. You're not going way back there? This this
was this year. Yeah, I know, yeah, I know, but
you see I'm not going way back there.

Speaker 13 (48:42):
Yeah, but I know I knew when the Springbots were coming.
They're not going to beat the spring Box. They won't
beat the Springbots. Nick said they either probably probably, We've
got now he's not an international coach, he never will be.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Well, he is now because he is an interestrial coach,
because he's played six games as an intentional coach.

Speaker 13 (49:07):
Oh, he's only just he's only just.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Said you say, only just then you said that you're
not going that far back.

Speaker 13 (49:17):
Oh you don't want to listen, Marcus. You don't want
to listen when somebody and there will be people that
will betten me up, I'll beat you. And another thing
you said when I first in the radio on or
got a whole lot of terrible texts about the rugby
Why don't you read to death? Read terrible Texas.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
The angry people are you? But they're full of profanities, Lois, No.

Speaker 13 (49:42):
No, no, they're telling the truth. They're telling the truth, Marcus, Lois.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
They're coming through with their opinion. Have you spoken to
any one since the rugby match? Is this is this
anger that you've got common?

Speaker 13 (50:00):
No, I'm not. I'm not angry. Angry, we said, I
just don't think that coach that Well's got now should
be there. As he said to the Rugby Union before
he got the job as coach. If you don't give
me the job, I'll go over three. They should have
let him go. We'd have been better off.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Who would if we had as the coach?

Speaker 13 (50:22):
Then what does that? But that's fine another who.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (50:29):
It's not up to me if I'm the coach.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
It seems like it almost do is you've got quite
strong opinions about it.

Speaker 13 (50:36):
I've got very strong opinions about it. And I've never
never thought that that raiser what they call him Robinson,
is being a good coach. He's only a coach to Crusaders.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Oh they're quite a good team. He coached them free.

Speaker 11 (50:52):
Well yeah, but.

Speaker 13 (50:54):
That's different than coaching international teams. He won't do any
good coming up against the rest of the world coaching
the or blits and you mark my words, Okay, gonna happen?

Speaker 2 (51:07):
He went on Saturday and they win the World Cup
in three years?

Speaker 13 (51:11):
Oh rubbish, it's just rubbish.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Well you don't know, though, do you, lowest?

Speaker 12 (51:18):
I know?

Speaker 14 (51:18):
I know what.

Speaker 10 (51:22):
What else?

Speaker 2 (51:23):
What else have you predicted in your life that's been
You've used all this wisdom.

Speaker 13 (51:28):
With what the work's that got to do with the complex?

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Because I want to know what you're you seem reelemant,
they're not going to win. I just want to know
how good you are at predicting all black results. Just
waiting at least at least your last.

Speaker 13 (51:46):
You'll be in the morning on Monday, low.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Lowess. Most of us can handle the loss. We're not
like the old days. It doesn't really We're not consumed
like you are. We're not saying, sack the coach. He
shouldn't be the coach. There's Robertson or whatever his name is.
Most of us know the name of the coach, and
most of us are quite happy with it. Right, most
of us.

Speaker 13 (52:14):
Believe it or not. Marcus, I am an all Black
saying I have got nothing against the players.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
You wanted them to lose.

Speaker 13 (52:24):
I wanted them to lose because look at and you'll
look at clown the game next week.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Do you know what people are saying about you via text?

Speaker 5 (52:35):
You want to take what they're like.

Speaker 13 (52:36):
I don't worry me.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Lois is a better old trout.

Speaker 13 (52:42):
Out because I'm telling what I don't know what you.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Are, grumpy old woman, loll take a chill, Poul Lois.

Speaker 13 (52:51):
Yeah, next Monday they'll take They will be all listening
to me now, so that's all good. So all are
you good good doers? Listen to me. You'll all be
taking a chill pill on Monday.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Belove you.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Are a well win by ten points Lowis, Oh rubbish, No,
that's that's my that's my But I want the all blacks.

Speaker 13 (53:13):
To Everybody is entitled to their opinion, including you, Marcus.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah, love you, Lois, thank you.

Speaker 7 (53:23):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
I just think it's the back to the old breakdancing
and the doesn't look like a coach. It's what it's about,
out of the mold. We might have a sweep on
Friday for it. Do you think the sweep seke should
be whether whether or not Lois rings back on Monday. Yes,

(53:47):
that would be interesting, is that you Lois? Here we go, Lois,
And I think everyone's prediction always has a bit of
hope in it. Marcus. I think Rays was do an
amazing job, considering he's been the job such a short time.
I've missed the conversation about the hucker in South Africa,

(54:07):
but I was discussed at the crowd's lack of respect.
I think they should stop the hucker and it should
be announced over the microphone that everyone needs to shut
up and respect the opposition team. And when there are
scientists doun on the hucker, then commence. Lois sounds like
my mum. Maybe she is, Gee Lowis. It's only a game,

(54:28):
Get over it.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
I appreciate the passion. We like passionate people. I suppose
we sound a pretty old school Oh Robinson, Oh, Scar Robinson.
But I think we're supposed to be not very good
in the in between times. It's supposed to be the
rebuilding time. I think it's always nice to win, but
it's even better if we're a on a path of improvement. Marcus.

(54:56):
They will have to dissemble the barge if it can't
be tied off the beach. They couldn't assemble it, could they.
They couldn't be able to. You couldn't get the heavy
tracks on the sand, could you. It could be a
total lo It's just Facebook comment is on a shipping page.
But yeah, I'm quite interested in all of this. This
is this bar John Carter's Beach just south of Westport,

(55:17):
because it's once I think something against stuck in the sand,
hard to remove. Be curious to know your reaction to Lois.
I quite like to passion it's good the pills to
get passion about the all black victories. But I didn't
think people got that kind of upset about it anymore anyway.

(55:38):
But yeah, curious. No, I didn't think there'd be a
accept the coach car says have been going around. I
thought most people thought, well, he's done pretty well. It's
in the early days, the first flush of his coaching career.
You might want to comment on the comments of Lois Pauline.
It's Marcus. Good evening, Hello Marcus.

Speaker 9 (55:57):
I was going to mention something about the badge, but
I will comment about Lois. First. You ought to run
a sweeps on whether loss will be happy next week.
It's the all Backs beat the spring box. We have
a cheery voice.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
No, because she won't be because the coach will still
be there. A. That's a good point. She won't be happy,
will she'll be work?

Speaker 9 (56:22):
So it's the all Blacks one and she's happy. That
sounds very odd anyway.

Speaker 11 (56:30):
About the barge, Yes, that's the idea, And.

Speaker 9 (56:33):
You tell me if it would work. The barge is
run up onto the sandy beach, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (56:39):
Okay, why don't they whip a couple of tugs around
from Westport to catch a couple of horses to the
seaward end of the barge and at high tide drag
it back out to sea.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Well, look, I think that's a really good I think
that I don't even Okay, firstly, I don't even know
if there's tugs at Westport right. Secondly, I think because
he's been really strong waves and winds in the test
with a storm, I think it might be up on
the beach higher than Look, I don't know how it lies,

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but yeah, it could be. Yeah, I don't know, but
I think they're sending a massive tag down from Port Taranaki,
and I think I think it's touch and go. They
have to dig it out with bulldozers. I think it's
if you looked at the picture, it's a massive looking tag.
Have you looked at the picture?

Speaker 9 (57:31):
No, just what's in the newspapers and it doesn't really
show that much.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Yeah, I think it's massive. So I don't know what
they'll manage to do. But I think there was some
discussion that you know that it could be there and
not manage to be removed, because it can happen with tags,
because they just kind of get to get themselves dug
in and then they settle and then they kind of
they the sand gets blown around them and they never
managed to get out of there.

Speaker 9 (57:55):
Because if you get heavy machinery on the beach, won't
it sink into the sand?

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Yes, I imagine.

Speaker 9 (58:00):
So yeah, it'll be interesting to see how it goes. Anyway,
Good luck Lois with your referees.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
That I hadn't talked, but Lois has phoned and to
say she'll call on Monday. Win or lose.

Speaker 9 (58:16):
Yeah, but we want to know she's going to be happy.
That's the all blacks.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
One lovely Thank you, Pauli. We'll ask her on Monday, Lois. Yeah,
I don't know how low Is are going to run it.
That is she going to be happy? I don't know. Well,
I'll be happy either way. It's been a good series.
We are talking. I was going to about the hucker
and eligibility, but people never go around about the coach

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and I'm happy with that, no one. They always come
up with some mentra no international coaching experience cheapest. I
don't ever think that's that valid. People always have these mentors.

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They hear and they repeat and nausea. I don't know
if you're necessarily coaching's coaching, isn't it the way you
look at the games, your tactics, the way you can
inspire the players, whether the players listen to you. I
mean most of those are pretty similar. I don't know

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how different international coaching is. Someone might agree with Lois.
I'm sure there will be people out there, but do
get in touch by name's Marcus with it all Midnight
Tonight and the Hucker and the eligibility and Hamburger pizzas.
That's something I haven't experienced before. I thought that was

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quite interesting that Domino's are doing those and stolen valor.
Marcus Lowis couldn't get any lower. Raiser might want to
raise her support. I think she needs to look at
herself before cuitting others, writing them off. Raise a Breakdances.

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Let's hope he does a rap about her on the
plane home. Marcus loved Lowis, Call of the Night d
don't fight at Lowis. It's bigger than both of us.
Some people have long memories. Sam Kine should be banned
from Rugby. Filthy player? Is he will cost is it
in the Cup? He's going to be around that long?

Speaker 15 (01:00:26):
Is he?

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Lois Is great. That's what sports is all about. Passionate people,
not boring. Oh well, it's only sport. Do good Is
love her style? Glen Wahiki Marcus Lowis can't be a
very good All Black supporter, she's so negative. Love listening
you cheer me up and make a night. Thank you.

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Marcus just gended in to get an air full of
Lowis down in the All Blacks and Razor. What a
horrible intro to tonight's show. Had to turn off again, Margaret, Oh,
come back, Margaret Good on Lois being so passionate about
the Allbecks, but I think she'll beating humble Pie pretty soon,
and by the time next year, I predict you'll be

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a razor convert. Raisor convert. You might want to comment
on Lois also, and the tug and the fires. My
name is Marcus hddled twelve oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. There's something extra or different you want to mention? Great,

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looking forward to hearing from your people. Also, we'll put
it out there if anyone news it and got tickets
to Oasis, or anyone who's it and knows anyone who's
ear got tickets to Oasis I didn't try. I thought
about it, but we were busy and that didn't seem
to be a high priority. Marcus, Lois has got it

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in for Raiser, clear and simple. She's impatient a few
games and the AB's are showing great signs under a
new coach and new players in the mix. Razor is
more than up for the job. And someone makes a
really good point. I wish i'd put it so eloquently, Marcus,

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how do you become an international coach if you can't
if you don't coach an international team? Very good point. Marcus.
Carter's beach is quite shallow, so I don't know how
other boats could rescue the barge, which has a flat hull.
I think it's more serious than we have been told.
I think it's very serious. Marcus wasn't really necessary to

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read the mean text to Lois? Is that not bullying behavior?
Fair point? And I thought about it for a bit,
and I thought, really, is it nice to read some
of nasty tests about them when they're on air? But
she did say before that she wanted to hear all

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the nasty texts that have been sent and try to
think that she probably take some perverse enjoyment about that.
Mark my words, Marcus, mark my words. Mind you, it
might have also been just an AI generated call that
I invented to liven up the show. You wouldn't know
these days, would you could be check GPT Hello Suet's Marcus.

Speaker 16 (01:03:30):
Welcome, Good evening, Marcus. I totally agree with Lois.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
I think.

Speaker 16 (01:03:38):
My choice for all Black captain would have been Wayne
Getlam is a key wing. He's brought the wonders with
Wales bringing home. Give him the all Blacks glass wait Warren, Warren,
Warren Gatlin. Yes, yes, my apology. Now last last Sunday

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morning's game, and the media chooses how it likes to report.
Damien McKenzie's first kick was out of time, but the
rest let him take it and it counted.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Yes, I noticed that too, and that was hang on,
Lois calling you Lowis that?

Speaker 8 (01:04:22):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
I noticed that and that seemed crazy and I think
and it was, we're going to need a quicker kicker.
Could He never looked comfortable with any of them because
he was hurrying, But that's right, and he had no
idea of that clock the first time. Why did the
captains shout hurry up? Because he's lucky.

Speaker 16 (01:04:37):
The kit's right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Did he get that one over?

Speaker 16 (01:04:39):
Yes he did, and yes he did and that counted.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
So that's two points. That's two points we shouldn't have had.
That's two legitimate points. It's an extremely good point because
I noticed that.

Speaker 16 (01:04:52):
Right. And then the same day Africon took a cat.
He was out of time and he was stopped.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
That's right, you're right, and he was right on. He
was right on time.

Speaker 16 (01:05:01):
He did not take the kick.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
No, it's a stupid right, We hear it.

Speaker 16 (01:05:06):
We hear that. When New Zealand had a player in
the bin with the yellow card, South Africa took advantage
of us and they got the true tries. Earlier in
the game. South Africa had a team a person in
the bin, but the All Blacks didn't take notice, didn't

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take benefits of that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
That's right. Yeah, what's that about?

Speaker 16 (01:05:35):
No, I mean that's the same that it was. Because
we got had the yellow card and the spring Rocks
talk advantage with the player.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
I think they would have been trying to take advantage
that had been doing the damndest to score with that
one player advantage that just didn't pay off for them.

Speaker 16 (01:05:52):
And listening to last Night talk that too.

Speaker 8 (01:05:56):
On the show.

Speaker 16 (01:05:58):
Yeah, okay. The thing with Bowden Bear and I like
Broden Bears he kicks it other than passes us. And
when you've got a player, when you're playing, when you've
got fifteen and you're playing against fourteen, you keep the
ball in hand and you pass it to your players.

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You don't kick it away to your opposition.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
That seems to be the way the players do it
now as they kick it away. Was very good at
the South Avans were very good at that, but they
seem to be smarter with their kicking. But you know
that's it's a fair point you make, But that seems
that seems to me. I mean that would have been
so there have been the plan for him to do
those kicks. He wasn't like, he hasn't got he hadn't

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gone off script.

Speaker 8 (01:06:44):
Eddy, Well, we don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
That would have been the plan to kick those deep
kicks where there's no one there and then knock him
off the ball.

Speaker 16 (01:06:57):
That's the way he has always played the team.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
But that would be the team. I feel quite strong
about this because that would be that there will be
a team plan. He's not going to just suddenly think
oh well, I'm going to kick it away. I think
that's like ingenuous.

Speaker 16 (01:07:12):
Well perhaps their coach should better say to room, maybe
don't pick it, Maybe just try passing it and just
see what happens. Keep it on the team, keep it
go along the line, and there's nothing better to see
any team running along and with going from one side
of the field to the other.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
But I think your defensive patterns are so good now
these days that they've got to find other ways to
break through. So what they're playing is the way the
modern game is played. This is the modern tactics for
this game.

Speaker 16 (01:07:45):
Maybe that's why Leon McDonald lost his job. Maybe he
wanted to change Bowden's Barrett's way of doing it. Just
putting it out there and I think they're going to
lose again the Sunday, But.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
You'd be happy because that might bring them about the
demise of Scott Roberts. Is that where you're going.

Speaker 16 (01:08:11):
He's there for three years. The reason I am personally
against him he was appointed the job while the other
coach was still there. He had a very long lead
into it, and in an interview beforehand he said he
wants to win the Rugby World Cup with two different countries,

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one being New Zealand and one another country. He doesn't
have the loyalty to our country, his country, you're blacks.
He's there to win. He wants to win. Hang on,
hang on, MICUs place. He wants to win one World

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Rode Cup with New Zealand and one with another country
against New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
I think I think you've probably taken a comment that
he's made and you know, in a perhaps in a
offhand manner, and that Yeah, I wouldn't see that. Yeah, look,
I know he said that, but I don't think I
think you've I think you've in your mind that's become
sort of a showing of disloyalty and stuff like that.

(01:09:23):
He's an enthusiastic guy. I mean, he probably sat down
that what I'd like to I would like to win
the World Cup for I mean that seems to be
what coaches do. They go and they go and coach
other teams. Everyone coaches other teams, don't they is the
other coach? Is the other coach just coached one team?

Speaker 16 (01:09:41):
How many years were how many years is Warren Gatland
given Wales? Okay, if you're coached in the Australians, you'd
be up with them three years, but hey, that's Bossy
Robinson will still be there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
And We'rean's coach a lot of different teams Ireland and he.

Speaker 16 (01:10:07):
And the chiefs, oh maybe even teen years no.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Because here were the chiefs names of the lion.

Speaker 16 (01:10:13):
Yeah okay, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Will you be disappointed if you lose? Okay? Thank you
so enjoyed you Elean. It's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 17 (01:10:25):
Believe me, Marcus. I've got an opinion and a story.
Great in the nineteen seventies, I was working in the
bull of Electric power Board and that's where the story
comes from. But in terms of the barge on the beach,
I have an opinion. I think it's the wrong vessel
for the job. It got off with a bit of

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a hiss and a roar, but the West Coast beaches
are just too tough for it. It's a flat bottomed
boat and it skims across the water, and so when
it got caught for the last few days out there
in the crosswind, it had no choice but to run
up on the rocks or on the beach because it
couldn't get into the mouth of the harbor. There is

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no tug in the Bull harbor, and there haven't been
many ships for a long time because they don't keep
the bar clear. So the boat really was sort of
doomed from the start story.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Hang on, hang on, are you a mariner?

Speaker 14 (01:11:25):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 17 (01:11:26):
I'm not a mariner at all.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
So when the because I can't work it out, but
when the strong and there were six days of strong
seas and storm or something like that that came in
and the boat couldn't get into the across the bar.
Should they just have headed out into the storm or
were they unable to do that because of the lack
of keel.

Speaker 17 (01:11:45):
That's a call for the captain to make. But it's
a flat bottomed boat. It doesn't have a keel, that's saying.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
So you so you believe they couldn't have action? Sorry, Ellen,
so you hang on. Let me just ask you this question. Yep,
and I'll ask it again. Are you believing because it
is a flat bottomed barge that didn't have the sand
on it, it could have headed further out to sea.

Speaker 17 (01:12:08):
Oh no, it could have hitted out to see but
it wouldn't have made any Why wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Well, that's I'm asking you. So it could have hit
it out west and how.

Speaker 17 (01:12:19):
Far it could have could have set out beyond the
breakers and waited and how.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Far out could it have gone as far as they wanted.

Speaker 17 (01:12:26):
I don't know, you as far as it likes.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
But that's a so why didn't they do that?

Speaker 17 (01:12:32):
I don't know. Instead instead they tried, Well, something happened
and they ended up on the beach. Yeah, I'm not
quite sure if the inquiry will show what happened. But
it doesn't mean it's a faulty vessel for a start.
But you know it's ideal for carrying that, you know,
the sand from Taranga Bay. But it's not it's not

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not good for that situation. Now the story. In the
seventies I worked for the Powerboard and Westboard and we
ran a line from wayman A Rowa to Cape Folwind
for something called ripple control, and every so many kilometers
we had to drive an earth bar into the ground
to earth the carrier wire just pland from Carter's Beach

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on the Cape Felwynd Road, we struck the wreck of
a ship. We dug down beside the powerpole. We drove
the earth and went straight through the deck of a ship.
Other ships have come to grief on Carter's Beach and
the beach just covers them up. Yes, yep, And so
I'm just saying that this isn't the first ship to

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come to grief on Carter's Beach. Carter's Beach was named
because that's where the Carters went. The carriers went to
pick up the cargo, so that the boats come ashore
there they dropped their cargo and it gets taken inland.
You know, it has happened many years ago. But ships
get stuck on the beach and that they can't be

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got off the beach. They just become part of the beach.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Nice to talk out and thanks for that. Lot of
hope for it. I see there's a shot with old
Shane Jones and a captain's hat on the vessel.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
Quite exciting when it first arrived in Westport. But that's
been a problem for the ages getting stuff out of Westport.
Of course, Cole used to go out of there and
Cement used to go out of there, but they used
to have dredges that would dredge the bar frequently, and

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they stopped doing that. And make of that. What you
will anyway get in touch by name is Marcus, welcome
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine nine to text.
But yes, mineral sands, but some they said, we're going
from north of Westport. I don't quite know where the

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sands they're getting from. Some of them we are in
the where the old cement factory was. By the way,
the barge is taking sand which is rich in ilmanite,
which is used in the manufacture of titanium. I guess
what they make the hips from fet I zero three

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iron titanium oxide. The other thing they are mining for
in this barge is garnet. But it seems to be
a huge boon for the coast, huge number of jobs created.
But if they can't get the if they can't get
the barge off the beach, it's going to be a disaster.
There's been so much hope for the coast for this.
The other thing is garnets. I don't entirely know what

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they're used for, but that's one of the things. It's
a rare earth garnets, So yeah, I think it's used
as an abrasive. But do get touched onto it. This
and the rugby, Marcus, the barge will be like suction

(01:16:12):
to the beach. Even when the tide comes in, the
suction will remain. She's suction cup mate. It's over. She's
a wreck. I suspect that could well be the case.
It's a beauty. I mean it looks like it's brand new, Marcus,

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be careful. Grumpy old Trout one now grumby old Trout two.
May gt chat box a poam tree for you, Marcus.
I think Lisa got a flatmate to call up. Okay,
enough everyone blowing up. The All Blacks kick off for
the next World Club is eleven hundred and seven days away.
They are rebuilding. How many people make mistakes today? Doing

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monthly and invoicing more than would want to admit it. Yes,
Rasor not had an international coaching experience where he has
coached the under twenty one and been a mentor to
Chile and Georgia. But he is the first coach to
have played overseas as a professional player. So times are changing.

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That's a good thing, Marcus. There should be a live
stream of Lowis watching the All Blacks next day. Would
be viral. I'm sure it would. Marcus. Lowis should run
for prominence, so she talks the truth. Call of the
Night Lois, I am your supporter. Spring Box will win.
What news Inanders will be happy after they lose? Go Lowis,

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Craigie Palmerston, North Marcus. The most important thing of the night,
did Lowest Locke in a time off air? Shall call
back on Monday? Dan, Yes to Monday? Not a time?
Should we do a sweet sake? What time she calls?
I think if South Africa when she'll call at eight o'clock.

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And I think if the All Blacks win narrowly, you'll
call about ten past ten. Now the All Blacks thrash
South Africa, you'll call about eleven forty seven. That's a
very good point people are making, and we're enjoying it.
That's a good thing on a Monday. It's sort of

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been the whole of my life, my my night. Lowest,
it's Lowest in the barge. But the barge is not
looking good. I think, yeah, I think it could be
gone Burger. And that was the first thing people said
on one of the shipping forums. And I'm not really
that into the shipping forums. It's just that, right, you know,

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it's just a It's interesting with the Internet because the
face that the sites you go do more often come
up more often in your feed, don't they. So I've
just seen what they're saying on the shipping page. Shane

(01:19:12):
Jones getting out of blowback because it's one of his
pet projects. Someone says, I imagine the barge would be
uncontrollable a big sea because the drives would leave the water.
I'm assuming it was anchored on a lee. Sure, thus
it became a foegone conclusion. If the anchor drags and
she can't mold her head, then she'll come ashore. Someone
talks about the azimuth drives. Also, when's to tug arriving,

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she could continue to bear herself, making the job harder.
So it doesn't look good for the for the for
the barge at all. That's my take. So yes, a
lot of comments about that. Marcus Katzen for the night,
have booked in a free power day for tomorrow. Fires
at this time of year don't bode well for Midsummer.

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I hope she rings about nine forty five next Monday.
I was driving home from choir and and he ran
off the road with laughter. Hype Koir went well, Marcus.
My thoughts get rid of the hacker. International players are
not the slightest bit interested in it. Yeah, I wouldn't.

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I wouldn't say that. I would think they probably are.
I think it's probably become part of the game. I
might have heard a different opinion ten years ago. I
think people probably are into it, and the crowds are
probably into it. I think they probably asked. I think
they're probably encouraged to do it, but they shouldn't do

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it if they're not happy. If they feel it's disrespect,
it's up for the players themselves, but they feel they'repect
If the players themselves feel that it's been disrespect and
don't want to do it, I fully support them to
park it for a while if that's what they want
to do, and I'm sure those players will make good
decisions around that. I see on Facebook to The other
thing is that one of the one of the inver

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Cargol's most famous guest stations, the Savoy. Everyone knows the Savoy.
It has now changed to White tullmul Petrol. So that's it.
Everyone's beside themselves, the cheap prices. Everyone's posting stuff. Goodness
about how cheap it's going to be. The disruptor. Never

(01:21:28):
know who owns it, but there you go. It's the
new thing. It's where how the old petrol stations have
changed day now. It's why Tomain, We've got it. Brilliant, Marcus.
How is the new studio the new studio? I'm still
in the old studio. I'm not into the new studio.
I got the I'm not into the new studio. Everyone

(01:21:49):
else in the new studio. I'm not in the new
studio until tomorrow nights. This is my last night in
the old studio. Marcus of Lois is so passionate about
this idea. Who to call sports talk hours and discuss
watch the response to that timeframe she gets to that audience.
Probably most of them would agree with it, wouldn't they?

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All the lines are free. My nameers Marcus, welcome, eight
hundred and eighty and nine to nine ticks, get in touch,
Hittill twelve, ten to eleven, the Haker, the all blacks.
Is it worth getting a subdog? So Subway is doing
the hot dogs? They look delicious while they're doing those

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years ago. And what about a Hamburger pizza? What a
great idea that is. I love all these people getting
into each other's lanes when it comes to fast food.
A mesh up. It's like McDonald to go ahead and
to a pizza burger next. I think this is all fantastic.

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So we're not about tonight. Get in touch Marcus till
twelve and you are surprised here people want to Scott
Robertson's resignation already. I think some people just like to
be contrary David's Marcus.

Speaker 14 (01:23:16):
Good evening, Marcus. You know I've got to stick up
for raising, don't you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
I think I want to stick up for I want
to stick up for we do.

Speaker 14 (01:23:25):
We'd be happy to have him back for the Crusaders. Absolutely.
He's only seven time empty champion winner coach. You know,
I think. Look, I watched the game, the second half
of the South African game, and a lot of those
penalties Marcus could have gone either way.

Speaker 13 (01:23:44):
There was a lot of them.

Speaker 14 (01:23:45):
This modern day rugby X you annoys me a little
bit because a lot of the penalties I can't even
understand what they're for. And I know one of the
all Rats got the ball stripped off him and that
was okay. The ref wed to flow. We tried to
do it back and we got pain for it. Yeah,
very blowy here in christ Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
That's going to about that.

Speaker 14 (01:24:07):
Yeah, nor history, and that doesn't bode well for the
badge on when Restport area because I've had some cereiu
and clement weather around there. I understand heavy rain and
not good not good weather conditions. I imagine and I.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Imagine I imagine it's very hard to pull a barge
free from the sea because you're going to have to
how do those forces work. I know they've got three
special towing cables that are kind of spring loaded, and
that they've got a fair amount of teacher in springing
the cables that can help. But you need to you
need a tag towing that tag. Wouldn't you need to

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have something in some way of.

Speaker 14 (01:24:53):
I think more issue Marcus being is for what the
draft of a tongue as long as it's got enough
water under It's what I'm saying, is the beach maybe
too shell to get a big here the towing cable.
I don't think it's an issue. It would be you know,

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would fit for purpose, but that beach may not have
enough year free ball for the wolf for the tone
to get in there. Hopefully it can now one question
is that barge loaded or empty?

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
Empty?

Speaker 14 (01:25:29):
Okay, Well, yeah, I did think about you know how
they the old vacuum dredges, how they can suck sand
up and pump it out or dredge that way is
to get in alongside it, or get some sort of
vacuum and siphon around or dredge that way around the

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whole of the of the barge.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
How do you even, dave, how do you even get
the line from the barge to the shore.

Speaker 14 (01:26:04):
Well, they can shoot a rope or that that shouldn't
be too much of an issue. And they can shoot
the rope and the rope leads to another string line
and the table and that'll look up that have a
hooking up here is there? But yeah, in some way
to stop that the section from the bottom of the

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flat hull from adhering to the sand, you know, So
that's one way of thinking. But yeah, get a get
a get a tug there, and I'm sure that could
wrench it off because it would be a shame now,
garnet if you think back to the old days of
sandpaper garnet paper.

Speaker 15 (01:26:46):
Yeah, it's a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
I'm gone for you day, but nice to hear from you.
Thank you. I've enjoyed that immensely. How to get a
barge off with a tug pretty difficult. I want to mention, Marcus,
seems pretty suspicious regarding the barge and the cook Straight
Fury running aground with no clear explanation for either. It

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seems like there are some people out there who will
do anything to discredit the coalition and government and disrupt
their plans to try and fix this country. I think
the crew all oversees they're a foreign crew, and I
think they're really keren't they don't even know who was
in government. Just seemed to be a tricky situation, Marcus.

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Waitomo Fuel is owned by three generations of the ormsby
Film and they also owned Mobile Well seems to be
very well received, and Vacario one seems to be queuing
up for Waitomo Fuel. They've taken over the Savoy. Good evening, Mari,
it's Marcus.

Speaker 18 (01:27:53):
Oh hi, Marcus, I just told you talking about the
shot clock from the game at the weekend. I texted
piney on on Sunday and I just watched the Abs
try replay Yes, and the shot clock came on as

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soon as the try had been scored. But it only
came on for sixty seconds after a try scored. It's
ninety seconds for the shot, okay, so they did the
sixty for a penalty and ninety for conversion, so it

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hadn't timed out they set the clop roll.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Okay, that's a really good explanation. So he had another
thirty seconds. Yeah, yeah, but there were some of the
other penalty kicks where he came right down and he
was right on time. He appeared to be rushed. He
didn't do as as slow build up, so it looks
like he's.

Speaker 18 (01:28:55):
Yeah, sorry, yeah, I didn't watch any more of the
replay again, okay to see what It's just the highlights
that they showed, but it happened to show the crocs
starting as soon as the ball was on the ground
for the try.

Speaker 14 (01:29:12):
Sixty.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
That's a really good explanation from you. So it's ninety
seconds or sixty seconds, and they put the wrong they
put the wrong timer on sea an extra half a minute. Brilliant. Okay,
really appreciate that, Mary, Thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:29:23):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
We've got that one answered, and I'm glad about that. Marcus.
The barge can be freed by then by using huge
earbags made to lift heavy ships. And barges, although it
would be difficult to get them under it's not going

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to be straightforward. But yeah, I like that. That's good
and of course there's rocks thereby if it could get
refloated and move further around so they could be damage
getting touched ed twelve and also Scott robertson or you're
all black? Yeah, you take on the all Black match.

(01:30:07):
It's many and varied. I just thought was an exciting
match to watch, was it right for the last five minutes.
Didn't really know who was going to win. That's exciting,
isn't it. That's what you want. And boy the Warriors,
what a match that was. That was sensational but little

(01:30:28):
bit late, but je was good. What a send off.
Loved it. Oh eight hundred eighty eight. Chris Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 8 (01:30:41):
Marcus.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:30:44):
I don't think South Africa needs to respect the Harker
or as my mate Richard Durban that I lived with
for a few years used to say, a war dance.
We're in the backyard. We need to copy it as
they do when they get her to New Zealand. It's
all a part of getting the crowd, you know, rolled

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up and et cetera. But if we're in their cauldron,
we've gone there to take them on in their stadium,
and I don't think we can complain if they counteract it,
because there's a lot of countries in the world that
don't do this. The English don't line up like riflemen
in three Pillars and South Africa, they don't do anything

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back to it. I mean, personally speaking from my attitude
is I don't think there should be eating hukers before
a game. Is we go to the field and use
play the game.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
Did you think that? Did you watch Chris? Did you
watch the match?

Speaker 5 (01:31:47):
I watched the highlights of it. I can't sleep up
through a good stew.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
Because I don't I don't know if I've got no
idea if it was disrespected or not. Because I just
had the commentary. You couldn't really tell how loud the
fireworks or how loud the plane was. I thought that
the I thought the start seemed exciting. I thought it
was good.

Speaker 5 (01:32:05):
Yeah, it's from what I see is the game is
actually what I'm there to watch in no theatrics. Yeah,
I mean I get it, like like any any team
from the Pacific can do a hacker other teams like
the French, the English, the Irish, South Africa. There's no
right of response apart from maybe standing in it an

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arrow or a semi circle or something like that.

Speaker 8 (01:32:32):
Whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:32:33):
I just think it's an unnecessary part of international rugby
and it's don't dash.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
Yeah, I kind of. I think I always sort of
had those, but now I think it's become sort of.
I think, yeah, I'm a relaxed I think people enjoyed
the players. I mean it's driven by the players. I
haven't got a problem. I quite like it. But I
think too now that we where are we in the
world rugby rankings?

Speaker 7 (01:32:55):
Now do you know what's three?

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
So now we're number three, it kind of doesn't have
the same kind of power, does it, Because you know,
the third best team in the world world doing your hacker,
it won't be as feared, will it.

Speaker 9 (01:33:10):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:33:10):
I mean, the South African's two World Cups in a row,
and then the Irish have been very strong for so
many years, and then and then you've got New Zealand
still doing a hacker.

Speaker 18 (01:33:20):
You know.

Speaker 14 (01:33:22):
I don't want to be.

Speaker 5 (01:33:23):
Disrespectful to the indigenous and New Zealanders, but like I
think there's days of doing hackers are over and actually
just play the game. So that's what we're there for.

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
It seems to that the crowd quite enjoy it. It
seems like it's part of the ritual. It seems like
that they would feel underdone if it wasn't there for
the audience pointed view.

Speaker 5 (01:33:47):
Let's just say, for example, if I was, you know,
to see of New Zealand Rugby, do it at home,
you know, because that's a part of you've come to us.
You're on our lands, this is what will be put
forward to you. But doing a hacker anywhere else, like
the French will whistle it and we're in their stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
I couldn't hear them burn it. I take your point,
maybe we should only do it when we are the
world champions. Would you feel okay about it then, Chris,
that's a really good point.

Speaker 5 (01:34:22):
I haven't thought about that. My personal opinion would be
we do it for home games only, and then when
we go to these other people's fields, we respect the
field we've walked on to because it's not our land
and we're not the dominant people in Ruby any more
likely used to be. And then you brought up the

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point of if we're world champions. We'll march on to
your field and be a champion over the top of
you on your paddict. Yep, that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
Nice to hear from you, Chris. Thank you loving it.
Oh eight hundred eighty eight. A lot of people get
retriggered by the hacker looking at the texts. Good evening, Mary, welcome.

Speaker 19 (01:35:04):
Him, Prakas. I've been listening about this barge business, and
then there was something you said earlier on and it
hadn't occurred to me, but that bird barge come over
here and take our sand away?

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
Yeah, I think, but but but Mary, Mary, Yes, when
I say sand, it's sand, but it's sand from the land.

Speaker 8 (01:35:35):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
Do you understand that, Yes, it's quarried in land. It's
it's that there's you can see, you know, because I
guess there's around the coast. There's a lot of shifting
sands over hundreds of years. There's a lot of you know,
the land is so it's not the seabeard mining.

Speaker 19 (01:35:58):
I wasn't really talking about mining, but I mean it's
you know that sort of things against the raw and
what about their vironment.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
Yeah, well, I think there's a pay up between the
environment and jobs in the West Coast. It's an element
that it's an area which is you know, declining with
the jobs. I think there's less coal mining, and there's
been less gold mining, and there's no longer forestry. So
so I think government has always got these regional development

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funds trying to create jobs for the coast. I suppose.
I think that's kind of where this thing has come from.
And they seem to be minerals that are essential now
for the modern world for computers and stuff. But you'll
take your.

Speaker 16 (01:36:39):
Points now, getting back to the game.

Speaker 19 (01:36:46):
When they brought up that business about what's it called
something clock, it's the last there and the person that
yeah was a person that was in charge of that
clock should have had that, you know that.

Speaker 20 (01:37:00):
They should be over thetly amateur.

Speaker 19 (01:37:05):
And also okay, well about it. No, I thought, yeah, yeah,
well I'm blind and bed here heaven.

Speaker 14 (01:37:13):
But if it just the.

Speaker 19 (01:37:16):
I'm mean wanderker in the mountains, the lightning that's sitting
in the mountains.

Speaker 13 (01:37:20):
Up there, you've got storms, yeah, up in.

Speaker 19 (01:37:26):
The mountains there, and oh yeah, and thunder. I didn't
think we were getting it this sooner. Know, the thunder's
been doing it sing And.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
When was there the widow. I was in Queenstown the
weekend and the weather people said the weather toill. The
weather was revery good until about Sunday afternoon we had
great weather. Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:37:45):
Well it was very very windy today and I made
I did some jerseys and to get them dry and everything.
But no, it's now getting back to the barge. I
watched a problem problem God. I watched a program a
week or so ago about a ship overseas and what

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they did they used they used it a digger thing,
and they had it all worked out and they took
a certain amount away from around the ship, you know,
up to a certain stage. And it was quite interesting
because the harbor was full and all this sort of stuff.
But they've not got diggers.

Speaker 20 (01:38:26):
There at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
Well, no, I think they'll be moving all that. I
think the first thing is to get the tugs down,
and then I think when you are moving sand and stuff,
you've got to do it quite quickly. Otherwise you do
all your work in the title, come up and fill
it all back in.

Speaker 4 (01:38:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:38:42):
Yes, anyway, I like those programs where.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
It's all that machinery stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:38:48):
Good.

Speaker 4 (01:38:48):
Yeah, and listen the boys.

Speaker 19 (01:38:52):
They're good beginning.

Speaker 4 (01:38:53):
Boys, now.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
Boys getting big. Boys are delightful eight and ten and
good kids, great lads. I'll bring them in for a chat.
But I think they're the keen on that. I don't
think they really understand radio. But look, love you talk Mary,
Thank you j R. It's Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 20 (01:39:14):
Burning for my friend. I'm just ringing up to get
a news about the the hospital in Wellington cutting out
the toast of the to the mothers after they've had children.
I'm just wondering if what do you think about that happened?

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
Pretty ununbelievable, Pretty unbelievable.

Speaker 20 (01:39:32):
Yeah, because I can in the toast that's cold anyhow,
And I got through when I've been in hospital recently,
and I was a friend of anyone else think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
I didn't know that toast was the snack that everyone
wants after giving birth?

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
Did you know that?

Speaker 15 (01:39:50):
Rather?

Speaker 16 (01:39:50):
Did I?

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
And as soon as I thought, as soon as I
think back to when we had our baby down here
at at in Vcargo Hospital and we had to stand
in a couple of days and I stayed in the
hospital and there was a toaster and all the toasting
gems and stuff it was quite a big deal.

Speaker 20 (01:40:09):
I know you look forward to it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:11):
Well, yeah, i'd gone elsewhere because I was I was
free to go. But I apparently toast is a thing,
and quite a big thing.

Speaker 20 (01:40:20):
Wells, I love, I love toasted. Had a couple of
spicy but tonight because I'm a bird like you guys,
and I just couldn't. I couldn't get over the save
money by taking the taste.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 20 (01:40:34):
I haven't given birth myself, so I wouldn't know what
this like. It's so amusing to me that thinking they're
saving money by taking the taste out of the.

Speaker 9 (01:40:45):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
Something make come and stay the other week and I said,
I watched that toaster. It's slow. He said, all toasters
are slower. I thought, that's a really good point. Why
don't they make it quicker toaster.

Speaker 20 (01:40:59):
Exactly if I really want to. I've helped out and
all kind of things over the years, and you get
these right machines that I just happened to taste that
you just feed into the ces bang bang bang bang
bang bang bang. Not a problem at all. But I'll
tell you, if you enjoy your your reading, but especially
a toast, you know, it's a little thing that we

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should all be able to enjoy sto and the mom
shouldn't be upset there being rubbed it so I can't
get out still, what's laughing about? I think I was
trying to save money, but you shouldn't be taking toaste
away from the mothers and the and the mums have
just been through there or do I haven't tried because
I think it's a bit stink myself.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
Unbelievable. I might say the rigor fighter, but I mean chief,
it's creeps. It seems like amateur hour. But thanks for that.
Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine to the text,
Greetings and welk if you do want to come through,
Steve Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 15 (01:41:54):
Good day, my boy.

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
How are you doing good Steve?

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
What's happening?

Speaker 15 (01:41:59):
How good is your memory? About four z A four
yse and the old announces in the building, not murray,
foul murray.

Speaker 2 (01:42:08):
I haven't been here for I've only been here for
seven years.

Speaker 15 (01:42:12):
But murray, And then there was then there was another one.
Then there was John O'Connor with John O'Connor, oh man,
I'm just relieving it. When it was four wise and
honored to be the last man.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
I'm very honored. I'm extremely honored.

Speaker 15 (01:42:36):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:42:37):
Yeah know, it's been a long time. It's been here since.
And there was the there was the breakfast show that
came on here for a long time with by Boggie
and the and the Budgy that was for a that
was for years.

Speaker 15 (01:42:48):
Yeah, was there sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
Because when I first started in Auckland, Murray Fogy was
the news reader there head worked his way up to
one z B. But certainly a lot of broadcasters came
from in Vert Cargill or came here. And I've just
found the I've just found an article here that mentioned
all those people that you've talked about.

Speaker 15 (01:43:16):
Yeah, I'm trying to think who it was around Murray
for all his time in a dark little glass. People
did about that era.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
And the other guy that people always talk about is
and I'm going to forget his name, Oh jeepers. That's cool,
it's not cool because the guy the guy to have
the Phil Denton oh yeah, in the wheelchair, Yeah, is
a jockey that had had a stirrup and next and

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and I was fortunate enough to have a bit of
involvement with him when I first moved here and he
was a real character, absolute character, and he broadcast from
here as well. Phil Dent was a jockey, that's right,
and I think he did the sports show or something,
did he.

Speaker 15 (01:44:01):
I had a hell of a since humor, as you said, Yeah,
but he looked on the bright side of life, absolutely
everything positive.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
I gotta leave it there, Steve, but nice. Thanks to you.
Nice to talk to you. I shall see you for
a brand new premises tomorrow night. Thanks everyone that was involved.
I can't wait for Lois next week. I shouldn't have
said we gonna win because I'm gonna be terrified about that.
But anyway, enjoy your Tuesday and catch your son.

Speaker 1 (01:44:29):
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