Stop ticketing people (20 November 2024)

Marcus has a run-in with the parking wardens, Sky TV continue to have problems, and why is basketball so popular in New Zealand?

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
A'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
It's gonna be like I just feel that it's kind
of gonna have a bit of a newsy time to
the end of the year. By the way, okay, two
things from me being someone that does a huge amount
of walking, cars that park across the footpath incredibly annoying.

(00:35):
I'm all for infringement notices for people parking across the
footpath one of the most selfish things you could do,
so just putting that out there stop it. The other
thing tickets. My partner is they got a ticket and

(01:00):
bluff The council must have come down for seventy bucks
and the car was parked facing the wrong way on
the side of the road. Who's that gonna Who's affected

(01:21):
by that? No one? I could imagine at night time
because of the reflector lights, you might want a car park.
As far as the daytime, I am yet to see
what the problem is with that. I know in the
UK you can park either way backwards and fords. What's

(01:43):
the problem here? Instead of bluff and the cargo council,
don't come out there in start issuing tickets. How I
mean spirited that driving all that way out for someone
and I see there was a caravan that's been yellow sticket.
But what's the problem with parking facing the wrong way?
For goodness sake? Oh high markets, Marcus.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Welcome, Yes, good afternoon. Cars parked on the wrong side
of the road or facing the wrong way. What the
driver does in order to do that is that he
crosses the center line and drives for a short distance

(02:28):
on the wrong side of the road in order to
get part. Subsequently, when he gets in the car to
drive away, he then drives on the wrong side of
the road for a short distance before crossing the center line.
That's why you get a ticket for it. A lot

(02:51):
of people.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
So it's not that it's the potential act that's still
to come.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
That's where the potential hazard is. That of course have
if you're driving on the if you're pulling away from
the curb on the facing the wrong side of the road,
you've got a bind spot behind you before you cross
over the center line to get onto the right side

(03:20):
of the road.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
It's a very good explanation that are you explaw enforcement.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
No, I'm a retired rollway man.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Oh good, oh, thank you for your service.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Mark.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Okay, that's a very good explanation. I appreciate that for you.
For you from that you wouldn't pack your train on
the wrong side, which you couldn't do that. Nice stuff.
Thank you. Julie Marcus welcome.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
Oh hi Marcus. Look I've got I've got a blog
with a lot of photos on there and just all
my family history. It's all sort of family photos and
there's a lot of stuff. Yeah, I've just been I

(04:07):
was just going to leave it there on the on
this platform. I mean, it's on a public you know,
like it's on the Internet. And I didn't sort of
realize at the time, but I was going to leave
it there for just for my kids, who, you know,
so we could have a look at it. Yes, And
now I'm you know, I've been just a little bit

(04:29):
freaked out and thinking, yeah, that it's already been there
for eight years, and that that's not a good thing
to do, and just to leave it, leave them all there,
and so they all just keep going out on the interview,
as I suppose, and I just don't know now whether
that would be wise and whether I have to just

(04:51):
take the whole thing down.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
So the purpose of this cause to see whether people
think you're advised to have private photos on a public blog.
Is that right? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Yeah, and there's yeah, there's a lot there. And it's
already been out there for eight years, so it sounds.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Like it's if nothing beds happened years. Sounds like it's fine.
Who's got you worried?

Speaker 5 (05:12):
Well, I don't know. There's just been a lot of
what's happened?

Speaker 3 (05:17):
You sound anxious? What happened to you?

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (05:20):
Yeah, there's been a lot of stuff sort of happening,
and and and I don't know, just it's just seek
me out sort of a.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Lot of family family. Did a family member call you?
I want to shame you about it?

Speaker 5 (05:32):
No? No, but I just I just yeah, it is.
There's just a lot, I mean, eight thousand photos.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
What's what's the theme?

Speaker 5 (05:50):
Well, it's just a lot of older stuff, all things
that just everything. Really, it's just everything. It's just a scramble,
but all my whole, my whole last.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
What's your blog? What's your blog about?

Speaker 5 (06:10):
It's about the it's just my whole history and all
the kids, all the kids stuff, all the kids toys.
It's got just photos of sort of food, funny sort.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Of with a blog, you normally write posts that are
interest to other people that no.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
No, there's no no, there's no writing on it. And
it's just all pictures. It was stuff, all the stuff
that I had in my house, which is all the
whole whole history of all my kids, all just everything
that they had in their childhood, all my childhood, you know,
old puzzles, old.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
I don't know if it's a blog, but it sounds fascinating.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
Well, there's just you know, it's just a big scramble
of like a whole everything we had for the past
sixty years.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
And Julie, you did a.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Young person to change your settings so it's not open
to the public.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Yeah, and just have it on private. I know. Well
it's like that at the moment. I've got it on
private at the moment, and yeah, but it's just a
it's not an easy view to sort of look at
them all when.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
You I'm going to go to good headlines, but look,
someone else might say something about that. By the way, ironically,
when Vanessa got the tickets, she was up there mowing
the boom, so go figure council won't do it. People
who park across the footpaths around Auckland more often than
than most are out and out arrogant, more so than selfish. Marcus.

(07:44):
If any of you else has ever seen a sky
down a technician in the last three weeks, are they
on stripe for more coin? The call sender is hopeless
and won't answer my question. Aren't one of the many
that's been waiting that long? Well, apparently from last night putting,
but reading between the lines, there just aren't many technicians
because the sky technicians across to work for down because

(08:07):
they're paying them a lot less. That's what I heard,
but I've never seen one. It's all about the booms, Marcus.
My driveway is just over the verge of a hill.
If backing out is dangerous, reverse across the road, So

(08:28):
sometimes I reverse out to the curbside facing wrong way
and take off from there. Sounds like illegal, but less
dangerous by the way. Often in Bluff you have to
park against the flow because if you park the way

(08:53):
you're supposed to park and open your car doors, they
will get blowing off the chessis, so quite often you're
going to tune your car into the wind to get
the kids out of the car. It's not straightforward, so

(09:13):
typical Towney coming up, ticketing of ticketing Towney Tony, the
ticketing Towny out there and we should be able to
park where we like in Bluff was the real danger
of the wind and car doors flying down the streets.

(09:35):
I still don't necessarily know that you're right that you
can't do a oui or not. What's the opposite of
a yui do a P shaped turn. I'm just trying
to picture the car. Oh, it's not hard to go
out that way and go the right direction. Oh yeah,
I don't know about that, but fair enough at least
the guy who gave an explanation. So it's all about

(09:58):
sky and parking. Oh now, on Monday night, I said,
the seagulls are destroying my car right that they are
always on it. They just camped there, leaving their meadow muffins,

(10:22):
and they're like, it's not good. They've never been on
the car before in the last two weeks they've lived there.
Carlok terror Look they'd been abandoned. Looked like it had
been a band in Australia under a jaccarina tree or
something with kooker barros up there or galas it said
that parrot that's gone missing. By the way, speaking of galas, So,

(10:47):
I took calls about the seagulls on the car on Monday,
and boy, there was a cavalcade of calls. And I
don't think I've ever heard such good advice. Some things
that talk about callers can be a bit sketch. On seagulls,

(11:08):
that's their sweet spot. I've never heard such wisdom. Anyway,
last night, once I dropped the children at karate, I
went to the car wash and I got the deluxe

(11:36):
car wash. Yeah, and boy, what a time that was
in the car park. My car then had the panic
that the era was up has got no aeriel. They
had the panic about the wing mirrors. But anyway, I
survived and the car is now clean and shiny on

(11:57):
the roof. And the theory was that if the car
is shiny, the birds will see reflections of themselves and
get freaked out because seagulls are thick. I mean, how
why would it, Why would a seagull be coming to

(12:17):
attack them from underneath a bit a sheet of metal. Anyway,
do you think that there were seagulls on top of
the car today, No, there weren't so tentatively it's a success.
It's worked. H However, it was blowing a howling gale,

(12:41):
and maybe there were just no seagulls around because they're
still in the car. They would have been blown all
the way to Tapanui. Are you family with how talk

(13:04):
about works? Ben?

Speaker 7 (13:06):
No, it's the time.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Okay, you got your radio off?

Speaker 8 (13:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Did the producers say you to your radio off? Uh? No,
that's perfect. It's Marcus here.

Speaker 9 (13:27):
Okay, Marcus?

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Are you going? Yeah? Good being there? You going all right?

Speaker 5 (13:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (13:30):
Not too bad? Not too bad?

Speaker 3 (13:32):
You got you got a special occasion coming up.

Speaker 7 (13:35):
Yeah, got my lovely wife his birthday today?

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Wow?

Speaker 11 (13:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (13:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (13:41):
Yeah's word to take your Marcus?

Speaker 3 (13:44):
What's your name?

Speaker 10 (13:46):
Taylor Smith?

Speaker 3 (13:48):
No one, I didn't want his soname?

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Right?

Speaker 2 (13:53):
What do you want?

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Well, it's name is Sheryl or Sue or something is
in the car.

Speaker 12 (13:58):
They're with you, yeah, Taylor Taylor?

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Okay, So why you are asking me where you should
take it when it's a decade birthday?

Speaker 12 (14:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
I just thought maybe you've got some experience with for decades.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
But didn't you put some thought to it beforehand and
plan something for her? Ah, he's gone, he's a coward.
Always mindfu. When people say that someone's surnames are, they're
either trying to prank someone or I don' quite know
what they're trying to do. Bucketing down to Hannah. Thank you, Marcus.

(14:43):
The chopper is tuned up in Hamilton. We can hear
it arriving from the north. Marcus, could someone please explain
the idea between Kywi drivers hugging the sin to white line.
What's that about? Marcus? You must leave a re sheltered

(15:08):
life of going to the car washes the event of
the day. I don't think I said it was the
event of the day. I said it was something I
don't often do. Why would I who wants to spend
the life washing your car? But you must lead a
re sheltered life. If you're talking texting, talk back. His
last text is I'm seventy nine, I've never seen a

(15:29):
Star Wars film and you're calling my life sheltered? Do
you ever know what obi wan kenobi is? Goodness me anyway?
Beck atcha Aaron Marcus welcome.

Speaker 9 (15:48):
I'm Marcus hire good thank you.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Hey.

Speaker 9 (15:52):
Just about packing on the opposite side of the road
or in the wrong direction. The guy. The guy who
explained that last time was kind of right. But the
main reason is, if you're facing the wrong way, you
have to pull out into oncoming traffic. And if cars
are parking in front of you facing you, most cars

(16:16):
obviously the right hand drive. If you park the right way,
you're closer to the road. But if you're parked on
the wrong side, you are far from the road and
you can't see the cars coming towards you, whereas you've
got your wing mirrors. If you're parked the right side,
is it.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Any more dangerous than coming out of your driveway when
this car is parked there and giant four wheel drives
that are blocking your view?

Speaker 9 (16:39):
But not if you live in Auckland Totty much driving anywhere,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
I do wonder. I mean they say it's dangerous, but
I mean cars are dangerous themselves, aren't they?

Speaker 9 (16:52):
But you know, I just want to absolutely But if
you're if you're if you're inching out and you can't
see in front of you and the front left of
your car is pulling out into the road of incoming traffic.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Fair enough, Okay, you're not law enforcement? Are not at all?

Speaker 11 (17:11):
Right?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
The opposite.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
What is the opposite of law enforcement. Murray.

Speaker 13 (17:20):
Yeah, hi, Marcus. You know I'm not too sort of
rule based either, but oh, absolutely intense. When I heard
you say you couldn't see what.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
The problem was.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh you think it's a no no.

Speaker 13 (17:32):
It's an absolute no no. So you probably don't want
to go on parck opposite the supermarket car park in
the middle of town, facing towards Admiral Street, in the
main street. And when when you're in a parallel car
park and everything's tight, because you know, in towns these days,
they like to make things as small as possible for
some reason. Small car parks, small roads. So I've got

(17:53):
my indicator on. I'm easing out of the car park.
You're trying to make sure you're not gonna you're not
gonna hit the car in front of you right with
your bumper. You try to look in your reversion to
make sure someone's coming up to you too fast. You
try to ease out. So finally I get out into
the road and at the same time, you're just about
looking forward and I see a car and I start
to accelerate when I realized that that car is coming

(18:17):
towards me because he had pulled out from the other
side of the road facing me about three three, about
three car parks ahead of me.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
You've been you've been a victim of the wrong side.

Speaker 13 (18:27):
Of as I just stopped riding front of again in
the full blast on the horn, and I let him
know which country. That's what you do, and that's why
people who come here should learn our rules.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
So you've you've turned into a migration story.

Speaker 13 (18:42):
Have you, Yeah, yep, and we should and we should
let these people know on their planes and.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
You've traveled, yeah, I have can Where can you park
both sides of the road?

Speaker 13 (18:56):
Well, as far as I can see. The only people
who really are into it is in the UK.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
They love it. The English love it. It's like there
it's like they're right to row. They love to park, but.

Speaker 13 (19:08):
They don't have the right to treat New Zealers is
back home with a bit more sun.

Speaker 14 (19:14):
It's not.

Speaker 13 (19:15):
It's another sovereign country and they're going to lun our
laws and.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
They ought to park on the right side of the
road and not start. Every discussion was saying I love
the country. It was a shame we don't have the
little neighborhood pubs, the bes, those don't they.

Speaker 13 (19:32):
That's right to you or anywhere it is not happy.
The gate's not locked. They could always go back.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
The gate's not locked. The gate's not locked. Marcus. I
bought a house in christ Bitch in twenty twelve. I
was made to move my house back one meter so
I could beck up and have enough room to drive
out of my driveway, not back out into a side street.
I'm very much opposed to people parking over the footpath.
Marcus lived north Shore for a few years and used

(19:59):
to bury the front of my three ton truck and
a bamboo patch by countdown to stop the parking warden
from seeing the waffle redge. He was a tosser and
then timidoy is to drop twenty cents in any expired meters.
When I saw the meda man coming along fifty minutes
behind me, I think we might have come up with

(20:20):
a topic. What's the most ridiculous thing you've been ticketed for?
I'll probably get in trouble for foaming discontent. And I
don't think bluff, I mean praise, I like it married.
I don't think bluff is anywhere near Warnica. I don't
think we've got people. There's not many people parked on

(20:41):
the side of the road and it's half an hour
from town. I don't know why you'd come down to
give out tickets. What's that about welcome people? My name
is Marcus. If you want to talk before before the news,
I can well know I comfit you, and well I
might be able to. I've got thresh mienutes. It does

(21:04):
still say they are still working over night to extinguish
this fire. Evacuations are underway, so twenty people will be
working overnight, so I don't know if it's all resolved.
Part of the winds pretty intense, so it could still

(21:25):
flare up again. It could whip up fairly quickly so
the ego, but I think they are in the containment phase.
The CP containment for each should be CF but containment
phase CPH. Marcus Downer is Australian but operates in New

(21:48):
Zealand and Australia head offices in Sydney. You can get
an aerial technician out of service disappeacement or come as
a private charge to that customer, whereas it should be
a free charge through Sky. It is a Sky equipment
problem full stop. If the problem is the Sky to
code to your private contract that cannot fix this, in
which casually they need a Sky technician to swap it

(22:09):
out and set up a new one, or Sky will
set a replacement box to you which you have to
install yourself. Customers should not be forced to employ a
private company to fix their problem, and Sky should reimburse
customers for any costs involved with a dude with this
jew to down a technicians not turning up on multiple occasions.
People have had a guts fill They pay enough to
have a Sky subscription. Cheers Jane. Yeah, this is getting

(22:32):
away from Sky. This is becoming a very problem, complicated problem.
I mean Sky's complicated enough with different dishes and satellites
in different formats and as they're trying to pivot to online,
but this whole thing, after a night to talk back
on it far too complicated. They've just got to sort
it out and they're going to tell us what's going

(22:56):
on because people aren't happy, and I think most people
are looking for a reason to get rid of Sky. Yeah,
that would be my sense of that. I don't know
if that's going again trouble for saying that, but I.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Would be.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Because it's just easier. I mean you're trouble with things
like Netflix. It's just there. They have to wait ten
times for a person to come to arrive, that it's
not going to arrive. It's heartbreaking, breaking of.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
The heart.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Netflix.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Whether I'm seeing an article they're saying Netflix, might I've
forgotten about New Zealand because it's got let cluster local content.
Oh there's not much local stuff? Is that You've got
quite good Aussie shows but nothing local. Don't know what's
going on there? Sort of out Netflix. Mind you, I'll
have worked out how that money go around works, although

(23:59):
I wouldn't. Yeah, get ready for the next hour of
the Hour of Powers. You want to be involved our
eight hundred and eighty ten. If you want to text
nine to Nino and the strangest ticket you ever got
or the weirdest ticket for an infringement, I'd be curious
to know about that. I'm pleased the wrong parking one

(24:20):
was explained. I found that quite expository. If that's the
right word. I think there's that. I'm sticking with it.
The explanations do get in touch. Marcus till twelve, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine two nine two

(24:40):
to text welcome people. My name is Marcus Hurdled twelve
o'clock tonight. It'd be good to hear from you. The
number is eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine
two text. The major topic tonight is we're still got
to discuss Sky and there's still problem with the serve.
There was an overhang from last night, but there's sort
of it seems to be a more evolving story this

(25:01):
one because I can't work out if they're giving If
they provide you a service right each month, sure it's
conditional on them to get your box everything installed, so
you can pay for that service. I don't know what
the analogy is with something else, but it just makes it. Yeah,
they should do that when you're paying a fortune. At

(25:23):
least they can do is get you good to go.
So that's Sky. Also, the craziest reason you've been given
a ticket from the council and forces or from the police.
I can kind of understand the tickets for parking on

(25:44):
the wrong side of the road, but in the scheme
of things, I think it's slightly petty. Yeah, in fact,
more than slightly petty. So that's something you want to mention. Also,
so get in touch you got something to check into
the mix on that. I don't want to be one

(26:07):
of those people say it's Rivenu Colick and gone mad.
But by the way, I thought the old counselor Mike
leacanded a bit out ofttached there. All those people are
parking across footpaths. Of course I need to be ticketed.
People walk. It's just about cars. You're just silly train anyway.
It was a trend, wasn't He was assisted on the

(26:30):
cost everyone of fortune and went nowhere. Hello Nickots, Marcus,
welcome still e tickets.

Speaker 10 (26:38):
It's about twenty five years ago. I was driving on
the Auckland Motorway and a lot pulled over by the
police and the only reason was for failing to indicate
for a minimum of three seconds before changing lines. And
he said, I did it twice.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Good on them.

Speaker 10 (26:55):
It was a bit rude, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (26:56):
No cheapest Everyone stopped indicating and that was probably when
the rots said it. And how long ago was it?

Speaker 10 (27:03):
Oh, it was about twenty odd years ago.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
You'd be one of those that would actually pull on
the indicator as you're turning the handlebar a.

Speaker 10 (27:11):
Listen, you know Auckland as well as I do. If
you indicate the first thing someone's going to do is
nipping before you've had a chance to.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Make him Anever, how many how big was the fine? Nick?

Speaker 10 (27:22):
I can't remember, but I remember the ticket. I've never
for gotten it.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Good on you, thank you, keep it going. Ten past nine,
hit at the beginning, here to the end, eight hundred
and eighty ten eight silly tickets, tilly tickets, silly tickets
and whatever else you've got. I reckon right, And this
is not the topic. This is just me talking. There's

(27:49):
going to be real trouble with basketball because they can't
just build a whole lot of courts. I mean, rugby
fields is all right because it's outdoors. It's not that expensive,
even that the council charges a fortune for them. But
basketball courts it's going to be cost prohibitive. I've gotten
because it's not like it's a major sport with this,

(28:11):
it's it's not like rugby in the local sport. They've
got that local Yeah, I don't think it's much money
been made for that local sALS Inbiella whatever. Yeah, that's
amazing of course too. They're all the church halls they
had basketball courts and I'm not sure what's happened to
all of those, but they're going to sort that out.
And I can't see what the solution is because there's

(28:34):
not a fortune to build basketball and they're expensive. Yeah,
I don't know the solution they're Actually I'm kind of
quite worried about that because people loving basketball can't get
enough of it. Evening, Ricketts, Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 14 (28:52):
It's good evening, Marcus. Is I have a god a
good RYE. I was parking well, I parked in an
area and it was right next to a reserve or park,
and I just as I stopped the car and put
the hair and broke on, but there was someone back

(29:15):
to me about twelve hours away. And then I realized
there's another guy in front of them. And I was
throwing something backward and forwards, and I was a cricket ball.
And of course my car was in the way. So
I'd seen someone back out and passed me, so I
thought I'll go there. So I did. It's about such

(29:36):
cars up despite the empty space, and the cop was
going past. He came over again and the ticket. I
was on the side of road in the big car
park and came here a ticket for not wearing my seatbelt.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
That's madness, that's pity. Sorry, that's pity.

Speaker 14 (29:57):
Yes, and another one. I was sort of in between
cars that I had, the bigger cars like station wagons
and and a little a little Honda Civic not quite petty,
and I got to only spin ticking over the head
and I was one k over. I was only in

(30:21):
a third gear.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
And one hundred k limit.

Speaker 14 (30:28):
In town.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
I think you go with a hundred Okay, nice to
hear from you, right, good on you. Oh wait, one
hundred eighty ten eighty petty tickets? Basketball you have with
all the courts. I can't work out the solution there, Frederick.

Speaker 8 (30:49):
Yeah, yeah, how are you?

Speaker 15 (30:52):
I am good?

Speaker 3 (30:52):
How are you in a good calm place?

Speaker 16 (30:56):
Yep?

Speaker 12 (30:57):
Parked on the side of the road, beautiful.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
What did you want to talk about? Oh, you're not.
You're not parked the wrong way, are you?

Speaker 11 (31:03):
No?

Speaker 8 (31:03):
No?

Speaker 15 (31:04):
Hell no, I amne parked the right way, though I
did park in a weird place because I was just driving.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Okay, what do you want to tell me?

Speaker 15 (31:12):
Well, yeah, for context, just finished high school. But for
most of the of this year at school, I was
parking somewhere and I probably parked for six months in
this location until sorry, six weeks in this location until
I realized I was I was not allowed to park then,
and I was getting parking tickets. And the problem I
have with that, since we're having a round about it

(31:32):
is it takes so long to get these tickets.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
In the post?

Speaker 15 (31:36):
Why aren't they digital?

Speaker 12 (31:39):
Right?

Speaker 5 (31:39):
No?

Speaker 9 (31:39):
I was just racking up.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
And it's a good don't they put them under your
wind screen?

Speaker 11 (31:46):
No?

Speaker 15 (31:46):
I didn't get I didn't get anything.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Like that, so I was probably taking them. So had
they arrived they arrived on the post, not email.

Speaker 15 (31:53):
Yeah, they came to the post, and I didn't realize
a lot of post of our house was getting redirected
to a PO box that didn't for ages.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
I just thought all tickets went under your wind screen.

Speaker 15 (32:03):
Well that's what I thought when I lived in London.
That's the way was the sixteen I was just getting
away was.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
A sixty minute park zone?

Speaker 14 (32:12):
Oh it was.

Speaker 15 (32:13):
I think it was authorized victas only, but it was
next to a P one twenty so I couldn't. I
couldn't really work it out.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
And how much was the money you had charged you for.

Speaker 8 (32:22):
I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 15 (32:23):
What the full price was, but they kept adding up
and being bored because I wasn't paying them. I didn't
even realize I had them.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
But how much was the two.

Speaker 15 (32:30):
Seems like a scam? Sixteen bucks?

Speaker 9 (32:33):
I was parked and how many how many do you
get a day?

Speaker 15 (32:37):
More than twenty?

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (32:41):
The school, the schools, the schools have a place where
you can park.

Speaker 15 (32:46):
No, there's no parking. This is this is awkrom Grammar School.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Oh, for goodness sake, sixteen past nine, eight hundred and
eighty eight nine nine to de ticks getting touched on
a tork Keittill twelve basketball all those courts.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Oh mh.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I'm not sure if you know, Marcus, I turned out,
but there was someone from council too. Then car parks
parked on the booms and bluff to day as well.
Could have been down there two days cheapest what booms?
Marcus got a ticket while park my truck on flush

(33:31):
My ah, you know what that means? Could you retext that?
Could you spell check that text? Because you got me
quite interested now, Marcus. The Australian government required Netflix sign
an agreement deal for Austream productions. We've invested billion dollars
into Aussie productions, you said, and government have not done

(33:53):
the same here. Yeah, I don't know about that, and
you don't get an actual ticket, but does seem a
bit mean spirited, apart from the one where you park
over with the footbath. That's bad. Now get in touched.

(34:16):
My name is Marcus Hurd on midnight, Oh eight hundred
and eighty to the fire seems to be under control. Yep,
that's happening. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine
to nine two to text basketball. What will they do?

(34:38):
Where will they get all the courts? Because I can't
imagine there's many at all, and it's not something that
councils can quickly pivot around and build on. Then they
need the buildings. Basketball courts won't come cheap. You might
want to mention that. Also, here's on midnight kram It's Marcus. Welcome,

(35:00):
good evening.

Speaker 7 (35:02):
Hi Marcus. You just want to mention about the parking.
It's in Auckland please, So, yeah, I live near the city,
you know, around Newton, So there's cars Auckland Council or
wherever the cars go around and they've got cameras on
the side, so they take photos off the cars regio's

(35:26):
or whatever.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Okay, and they don't automatically it's robot cars ain't.

Speaker 7 (35:30):
Yeah yeah, yeah, so I mean they drive around, but
they obviously take all the details off, you know, the
ones that have gone over the time limit or have parked,
you know, in places they're not supposed to. And yes,
they do send it in the mail, yeah, which is

(35:50):
very annoying because you know, like if people are away
from work or things like that, they don't realize they've
got tickets.

Speaker 10 (36:01):
Yeah, okay, so yeah, it is, it is.

Speaker 7 (36:05):
I can I can see what happened with the other
person who called before. Yeah, it's actually yeah, getting the
physical tickets where better. And this seems to be even
more dangerous. Yeah, so if you probably could look it

(36:26):
up online, I suppose about.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
How they do it, Although good on for them for
doing that as a way to put out tickets and
collect revenue. It may it must be a pretty horrible
job in a parking ward, I can sort of see
why they're doing it.

Speaker 7 (36:38):
Yeah, yeah, but I think I'm, like the other caller mentioned,
what they could do is, you know, I'm sure there's
an email that be linked to your regio and they
could email it, you know, so people know, you know,
instantly they've got it, instead of sending it in mail,
Like no one checks letterboxes anymore, you know, and they

(36:58):
get broken into all the time as well in the city,
like you know, in apartments, and so it's kind of like, yeah,
like if you don't see it, and then you're taking
the court and whatnot, and you know, all the fines
wrack up, and so yeah, I just wish they actually
just send it in an email, you know.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, And look, Karen, thank you for that.
I'm just try to look at that situation too. So
people have got tickets for parking in their own driveway,
but if you are obstructing the footpath, so if you've

(37:42):
got a pram or you're walking with, it's yeah, it's
that's not your place to park. But wow, there's a
problem with parking, isn't there. So I think it's wrong
to pack over the car back like people are over
the footpath like people are doing. I'm please the ticketing

(38:04):
for that, but yes, I think too. For Auckland, probably
what the situation is for some of those inner city
suburbs that are now quite sought after. A lot of
the house have probably brought the days before people had cars.
There's a lot of garaging, so yeah, it's a problem. JT.

Speaker 8 (38:28):
Helloo, Mar guess I'm with Murray from how We're Flat.
I hate it when I see cars park on the
wrong side of the road. It's like, yeah, all of
a sudden, being transported to England. Those people come here
and they think they can do that in our country.

(38:51):
They now when I'm out walking and I hate it
when cars park over the footpath. I hate it when
vegetation grows over the footpath and people don't anything about it. Yeah,
so when I go walking it may seem hard to believe,

(39:18):
but yes, I have been armed to throw them up
other people's bushes.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
You should give her those little folding souls. They're pretty good.

Speaker 8 (39:28):
In fact, one time I trimmed up this woman's tree
and she just happened to be out on the by
a letter box.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
What'd she say?

Speaker 8 (39:40):
She tried to bail me up. So that's a bit
of explained. But as far as it's parking on the
footpath goes, I think there's been a lot lost in translation.
I heard Maurice Williamson, Auckland counselor on with Heather, and
Heather is using the wrong words because she said that

(40:00):
it was all right to park across her driveway between
the road and her own property. Of course that doesn't
sound right, It's not right. Morris Williamson explained it that
in some of these suburbs in Auckland, the distance between

(40:21):
the guffa and your own and the footpath, in fact,
the grass is so wide that it's long enough to
take the whole length of your motor vehicle. So that's
where the confusion is coming in.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
But you still should be parking there either, should you.

Speaker 8 (40:39):
Well, you're not blocking the footpath, you're not blocking the road.
So the way Heather was talking, it's like she owns that.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Piece, but the resids don't own them. They're not driveways,
Like you.

Speaker 8 (40:59):
Don't own the road out in front of your house.
People are at the park here.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Yeah, and you don't own that footpath. You can't, you can't.
You don't get me started.

Speaker 8 (41:10):
The only reason where I reckon you can park across
your driveway. When you say across your driveway, that means
ninety degrees to the length of your driveway, and that
just sounds wrong. But if you've got a double garage.
So you've got like say, six seven meters of driveway wood.

(41:31):
I suppose you could park in there and not get
a ticket.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
You shouldn't be blocking the driveway and you shouldn't be
blocking the pavement. So there's people parking. Yeah, it's complicated
to discuss, isn't it.

Speaker 8 (41:47):
Because you've got to remember that.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 (41:50):
If I was saying, if you're parking on your driveway,
you should be parking along your driveway, not across it.
But also think of ambulances and fire engines. I mean,
they need somewhere to park to keep the road to flow,
the road open if there is an emergency. But can

(42:10):
I just talk about playing basketball outdoors please, because you
know how you were saying as a shortage of courts, Well,
you know that there was a there's been a few
NBA games played outdoors. Didn't know that that was at
the Indian Wells Tennis Center in America there and also
there's an NHL ice hockey game played outdoors every year,

(42:36):
or there's one or two of them. So that's quite interesting.
Why are they doing that, Well, it's they're trying to
get back to the traditional of what it was like
back in the day before the huge stadiums were built
with Was.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
It originally outdoor sport basketball?

Speaker 8 (42:56):
No, I was referring to ice hockey thea okay, okay,
but basketball it was only invented in our agent ninety.
There's no reason why you can't play outdoors, you know,
that's no idea playing the black top?

Speaker 11 (43:17):
What what?

Speaker 3 (43:18):
What difference would the ball be list bouncy? Ah these
what if you're jumping on the McAdam.

Speaker 8 (43:30):
And it's the same for both teams, So what does
it really matter? But playing outdoors ice hockey?

Speaker 12 (43:40):
That that that's uh, that's old school.

Speaker 8 (43:44):
Yeah, that's different level, isn't it? Because I remember when
did ice hockey actually when did they actually start? When
did they form the league? I think there was six clubs.
It was the Chicago, Boston and three teams from Canada.
But it's interesting history.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
I love. Got'll do some research on that. JT. Thanks
for alerting me about that. I'm liking the idea of
an outdoor ice hockey match. Looking online, there's quite a
few of them that have being happened. Get in touch,
Marcus till twelve. You want to come through all about
everything tonight? Oh wait, one hundred and eighty, ten eighty
all about everything, nine to nine two text keept those

(44:27):
texts coming through. I'll keep you updated with news. Hold
your horses. Bobby'll be with you in two ticks. I've
got a great email from someone who is an ex
Sky technician Sorr. It's a text yep, Marcus. I have

(44:56):
a license since November nineteen sixty five and have never
had one single traffic violation ticket. I've driven all over
news in Australia USAKF. I haven't lived. Good evening Bob
AT's Marcus.

Speaker 12 (45:07):
Welcome Marcus earlier this evening.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Good thank you boy.

Speaker 12 (45:11):
You were just talking about ticket, so I got a
different ticket. We've been on a trip down south when
we're living over the coast. We hired a caravan in
christ Church, went the way down south, came back, got
back a bit later than what I intended to to
christ Church to drop the caravan off, and he was closed.
But we didn't have much much money left. We'd just

(45:33):
been on a holiday with two young kids, so I
thought I would con't really a fordy camping ground, so
I pulled him to one of those. It was a
park down in quite a leathy suburb. There was no
one around, and it had a toilet block and everything there,
and I thought I got to be perfect for the
young kids. About nine o'clock at night, some guy comes
pounding on the door and tries to present me with

(45:53):
a sixty dollars ticket for breaking council by laws.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Wow.

Speaker 12 (46:01):
And I explained him the situation. He wasn't interested. He
wrote out a sixty dollar ticket, which I think I
used the toilet paper in the finish. You know, I
just no matter what I tried telling me, he wasn't interested.
He had one of these jolly neighborhood watched something or
other and hired by the cancel for going around. I mean,
I can understand that they don't want two thousand people

(46:22):
camping in their pack, but come on, it was one night,
We're on our way home from a holiday. You're in
the raamily no money.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
You're in the wrong, though, wit you, Bob?

Speaker 12 (46:33):
Well, no, because I didn't know the women buy a laws.
Where did I thought, I just camp here and then
the kids can use the toilets and then we go
in the morning. I mean, there was no such thing
as freedom camping or anything in those days that I
how long I did not think twenty years ago. Oh hell,
but no, I did not think I was in the
wrong Marcus. I thought I was just God. In the morning,

(46:55):
we'll just pack up, we go, we drop the caravan off,
we go back to the coast. Did you stay come
around banging on my caravan door at nine o'clock at night?
He's lucky he didn't get something else but a ticket
on writing me out of ticket we really wanted to give.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Where was it that?

Speaker 14 (47:11):
Uh?

Speaker 12 (47:12):
And one of the christ did something must be known
by Addington somewhere, because that's where the caravan high place was.
Did you Why can't people just mind their own business,
get on and what he's got to do during the
day and let me worry about.

Speaker 8 (47:26):
What I was doing.

Speaker 12 (47:29):
Yeah, I told him what I thought of him, don't
worry about that market. But he's still insisted on writing
a ticket out and then trying to throw it in
the caravan door. Yeah, so that's that I got that
I thought was quite unfare. I definitely don't think I
was on the wrong. I didn't have any choice.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Did you stay the night there?

Speaker 6 (47:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (47:46):
I did.

Speaker 12 (47:47):
He told the bugger off and in the morning, after
the caravan we left no mess or anything. We took
a rubbish with us to choose the facilities here in
the morning, which was only the toilets, buy some wash,
hand basemin and then we went back, dropped the caravan
and went back to the coast. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
So I suppose there are many freedom camping places for caravans,
are they? I don't know what you do with the caravan.

Speaker 12 (48:11):
Yeah, well, in those days it wasn't the one. Don't
even think then that thing that's freedom camping.

Speaker 6 (48:15):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Beginning Beck Henners from the local caravan park operator.

Speaker 12 (48:21):
I don't know what he was doing, but we couldn't
have boord the caravan back. So yeah, he was just
a bloody busybody as far as Oskin's erned. But that
was the ticket I got that. I didn't think I should.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Have got bloody busybody, Bob. Thank you for that, Marcus.
There are dozens of free streaming websites that have the
latest release movies, usually before cinema release, and TV series
on within thirty minutes have been broadcast in the usl UK,
which makes me wonder way anyone would throw their money
down the toilet paying for Sky TV who don't broadcast
the set above for weeks or months later. I see

(48:54):
Sky disappearing within five years permanently, when more of the
brainwashed Sky subscribers wake up to this fact. Hello, Trevortt's Marcus, welcoming,
Good evening.

Speaker 16 (49:08):
Good evenings, But windy here, Marcus.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
It's windy everywhere where are you?

Speaker 16 (49:11):
By the way, I'm just a little hy he here
it's been putting silence bars away and she's getting blun
around a bit. So I'm going home.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
You can see why wind scenes animals mad. I had
an inside data because it was I couldn't be bothered
with the wind. That seems you're.

Speaker 16 (49:27):
Mad, hey, but you just sit the nail on the head.
I was just thinking about what you just came out with,
and I just thought, that's that's crazy, Like, oh shoot,
I might show my age a little bit. But I went.
I went the tongue probably oh forty odd years ago now,
I suppose. And the one thing that stood up there

(49:49):
was the Mormon churches had the best basketball court, and
they that was the one thing that they attracted the people.
Everywhere they went, a Mormon church would have a basketball court,
and if they didn't end up using it, and the
church didn't sick. See, they just bought a bulldozer and
pushed it into the water. But it was an amazing

(50:10):
thing that Mormon churches had the basketball courts.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Was it the same place? Was the church the court
or there'd be a church and the court beside it.
They didn't have They didn't have this. Do they have
their services in the in the and.

Speaker 16 (50:22):
It was outside beautiful court outside, Yeah, beautiful basketball court
outside the church, which would attract the people, you know,
their kids and the stuff.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
But yeah, makes sense if you're going to kind of
conquer a religion, you bring the basketball as well and
bring some does it does make sense, doesn't it?

Speaker 11 (50:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (50:40):
Yeah, it's definitely gone crazy and tearing here with the
the Bay Park arena and that that's just go over
there and have a look at the kids running around, which.

Speaker 8 (50:49):
Is quite cool.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
How many courts are there?

Speaker 16 (50:54):
Shoot inside that arena? I'd hate there's it's Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Is this is this called? Is this called Bay Active.

Speaker 16 (51:06):
Where the Baypark Arena as?

Speaker 8 (51:07):
I think?

Speaker 16 (51:08):
I don't know if it's changed the beck.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
There appieces to be a lot of them, like about
twelve or something.

Speaker 16 (51:13):
A yeah, but this is insight.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Yeah, I'm looking at that. Yep, yep, I'm looking at
from Google Maps, not from street view.

Speaker 8 (51:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Kind of a strange old sport because it takes the
kids a while to get any good at it.

Speaker 16 (51:32):
Yeah, but there there they can reap the benefit at
the end of They get some pretty good coin out
of it, don't they exactly.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
So also talk about basketball tonight, Steve. It's Marcus welcome. Oh, hi,
thank Steve.

Speaker 17 (51:47):
Oh, I just kind of tune in. I hear you're
talking about basketball tonight. I've played in the first eleves
basketball game back in nineteen sixty four in New Zealand. Yep, wow, wow, Yeah,
I was. I was out here on a RDY Foundation
fellowship and I was at Canterbury and I played for

(52:08):
the Canterbury University a team. And back then, of course,
basketball is very new. And I was from Indiana, which is.

Speaker 8 (52:15):
Just crazy about basketball.

Speaker 17 (52:18):
And I grew up, you know, playing basketball every night
after school with my friends, even in the summer. In
the winter we'd shovel off the snow anyway, so this
beat kind of egotistical. But I was seen as a
big basketball star here.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Wow are you still here?

Speaker 17 (52:38):
Yep, yep, yep. I went back to the States, but
then came back Mary the Kiwi and came back And yeah,
so I played in the first televised basketball game, which
is in nineteen sixty four, I think I was, and
I scored thirty five points.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
And yeah, there's all sorts of interesting points you made
about this. You say you're from Indiana, right, Yes, I'd
never worked this out. But is there a curl in
the United States between states that play a lot of
basketball and climate? Is it more a cold climate place
because you need to have fun indoors? Is that where

(53:16):
it happens more often?

Speaker 17 (53:18):
I hadn't really thought of it that way, but I suppose,
suppose it could be. But definitely, in Indiana basketball was
a sport and people from Indiana called the Hoosiers.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
And yeah, and in nineteen sixty four, with this this match,
it was just broadcast locally for.

Speaker 17 (53:38):
The Canterbury region. Yes, but it was the first. Yeah,
I played for a Canterbury Canterbury a team at the university.
And you know, because I grew up with the basket
in my hand, you know, Kiwi's just weren't you know,
as new to them, so it's easy for me to

(53:58):
make a play. I was you know, I was in
the christ Church Press two or three articles with inspirational
man from you know, basketball and all that. But it
just was natural to me because that's what I grew
up with.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
And tell me about basketball in this country, Steve with
people often quite resistant to it because it's taken a
long time for it. It seems to me the reason
it's gone huge now is because all the matches screened
in New Zealand and all the kids are made for
the NBA and the clothing. But was it a slow
road to get Kiwis into basketball? Is that what you've noticed?

Speaker 17 (54:32):
Yes, definitely, But as you said, it's just grown and
grown and grown and with the you know, the breakers
and all that and attracting you know, overseas players. Yeah,
and no, it's really huge now, well relatively.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
I wonder what it took so long. I guess people.
I guess football and rugby was what they wanted.

Speaker 17 (54:57):
Yeah, it's fent like in the US, you know it's
football and basketball and baseball and other sports take a
long time, you know, like soccer's getting big there, but
it took a long long time. It's the same with
basketball here because you had rugby cricket, you know, those
are the big sports.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
And probably thinking about basketball too. You do need to
spend some time with hoops practicing, so probably for a
long time there weren't a large number of basketball hoops
with backboards available for people to practice on. So it's
taken it. That's been quite gratual, hasn't it.

Speaker 17 (55:30):
Yes, exactly, Like across the street here in my retirements,
we had a guy playing basketball every night in his backyard,
which we'd never see before.

Speaker 8 (55:40):
But we grew up.

Speaker 17 (55:42):
As I said, we come home from school and my
parents had basketball go on the backyard and my friends
and I would play every night in the alleyway with
we had like you know, telephone wires, but we had
to shoot low. But we played every day, and we
played in the winter. We would actually shove off the
snow and have gloves on and play basketball. So you

(56:04):
have to be good because you've been playing for years
a year.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
But you see that more and more now, particularly if
you and that's some of the things that particularly in
places like in the north through of Auckland where the
break is are strong. You wander around the suburbs there
and most of of those portable ones, but you know,
it seems every second house has one of those big
portable hopes with backboards and the kids you know, on
the driveway.

Speaker 17 (56:27):
That's right, and I guess yeah, even like the glass
backboards you know and everything. Yeah, so it is definitely
getting bigger, So exciting to see now.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
And did you play for a long time you're here
in sixty four. Did you play for a long time
as the professional league started or did you just was
was that one and done for that year?

Speaker 17 (56:48):
Or did you play while that was just one year?
Because then at the end of the year, I went
back to the States and did my MBA and oh
I'm married at Key We went back to the States,
did my NBA, worked in New York and didn't come
back until nineteen seventy one or so.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Yeah. And have you supported have you supported the Rams
the local team? Are you someone that's got involved with
it and got involved with the local the local games
and god to see those?

Speaker 17 (57:15):
Yeah, not the Rams that I've gone to games here
and I was a you know, I wore the thing
with a volunteer on the back and all that. Where
you work crowds and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Yeah, Oh, nice to hear from you. Steve, you send
a video. I wonder if you've still got there, it
still exists anywhere? Your basketball match?

Speaker 17 (57:32):
Well, yeah, my son who is a TV producer and
everything is trying to find it because we he reckons
that they're somewhere. We can find that game because the
other team I had to play is called the Best
against the Rest in Canterbury, and I had to play
for the Rest because I was an import.

Speaker 11 (57:51):
Uh.

Speaker 17 (57:52):
And so it's funny because the guy from the ret
the best team had someone marking me who was not
very good, and I started scoring, so he started marking
me and no one can stop me. It's just it's
just a happen to be in amaze in game that
you know, probably the best.

Speaker 8 (58:08):
You know, it's just olock and you won.

Speaker 17 (58:12):
We know we lost by two points, but as I said,
no one had ever seen went score thirty five points
before in a game. Yeah, it was just I was lucky.
I mean, it's just, you know, everything just seemed to
you know, I met I met the Beatles that here
in christ Church, then got my picture with them. It's

(58:32):
just an amazing year. Yeah, it's just so lucky. The
whole year was just amazing.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Did you have any preconceipt. Did you choose to come
you see it or that just where your course was
going to be.

Speaker 17 (58:41):
Oh well, that's interesting. I won this Rotary Foundation fellowship
and you had to name five universities that you'd like
to attend overseas, but only three could be in one country,
and I chose England. I chose like three universities in England,
and then I had to pick two others. And that
got the rotarian who asked me to apply for it said,

(59:03):
don't worry, Steve. Just you know you'll get your you know,
you get your first and anyway, I'll never forget. My
mother called me up and said, Steve, you've won this.
You know you've won this Rotary Founders Foundation fellowship. Said amazing.
Am I going to Oxford or Cambridge? She said, You're
going to someplace called new It's back in sixty four,
people in Indiana had not heard of New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Wow, what faculty did you go to?

Speaker 17 (59:29):
I studied in political science back then.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Yeah, and yeah.

Speaker 17 (59:35):
I was a political science major at my university in Indiana.
And then I changed the business after I went back
because I got involved with rotarians all through the South
Island and I got interested in business, so I changed
from law school to business school. Yeah, changed my career.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
What a great story that that happened, and ended up
being here now for all those years. Oh look, I've
really enjoyed that, Steve. Look, I think and I don't
know that, but I reckon if your son found that,
he'd be doing really because I can't imagine that. I
when they talk about archives that all be shot on film,
I can't even in the room where that exists.

Speaker 17 (01:00:09):
Yeah, I can't even. But John produces a lot of
TV problems, So if anyone's can find it, I'm sure
he can find it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
How he'p in touch? Steve, love you to talk to
you seventeen past Deeen, my name is. We're talking about basketball,
the early days of basketball, and you said, I think
it's potentially could be quite an interesting topic. Well, it
already has been interesting. But we're going to need five
hundred more courts. Marcus, my son loves basketball, plays everyday
in the driveway, represents his school, plays all the local schools.
It's huge, Marcus. The Totong accounts want to take away

(01:00:40):
Baypark Speedway and build basketball courts at its place. We
are doing our best to stop that happening. Hands off
Baypark on Facebook. Thanks, I guess too. They're also concerned
that the growth is going to last, but I would
imagine it would be. I would think the growth and

(01:01:01):
basket growth in basketball is permanent because it sort of
correlates that the kids can play and practice at school.
I just think something about it. And you don't need
a whole group of people to play. You can just
kind of have a pick up match with two or
three people, which you can't quite do that with football

(01:01:22):
or rugby. It's not quite the same. Marcus. I'm not
that old, but I would have thought you'd have your
wedding reception in the church all for a good point.
You're probably right. You're probably right. I don't even know
if people have the wedding receptions and church halls. I'd
be interested to hear more about that. What is the

(01:01:46):
point of the church halls?

Speaker 13 (01:01:48):
Here you go?

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
People twenty one past ten min names, Marcus got everything.
I'll keep in touch with breaking news. But there's lines
there free you know, the topic sky parking and basketball.
The number we're with all the courts were, I mean, flip,
I don't ever know where they're all going to be,
because what are those multi use for you, because it's

(01:02:08):
not like you can use well, I'm just trying to think.
I suppose most towns have halls they could use. But yeah,
I'm kind of interested in this, and that's what we
are talking about the growth in basketball because people playing
this rugby. Obviously, the number of rugby teams have just

(01:02:31):
just diminished because I think the kids enjoy playing basketball more.
I think that would be my understanding there. It's more
of an international sport anyway, isn't it, Although I think
it's also one of those sports you can probably play
more than one sports. Most kids sem to play everything

(01:02:52):
these days anyway, basketball and softball and soccer and rugby
in league, which I think is what you're supposed to do.
You give it all a go and then you specialize
a little bit later on. But that's what we are
talking about. Know, if you want to add to this,
it'd be nice to hear from you, Oh, eight hundred
eighty eight, if there's something different you want to mention.

(01:03:13):
We've had a couple of single issue topics tonight, so
I'm not too fussed if you want to chop out
with something different or get into something different. I have
a problem with that at all. But just let's be
hearing from you and I'll keep you updated with news
and if you've got news that you want to tell
me about. Also, we're doing pretty well at keeping people
up to date with stuff. Do get in touch nine

(01:03:36):
million lotto this weekend. That's the way that's going to
go anyway. And the birth of your involvement with basketball,
I'd be curious to know how that happened over the years,
because I'm sure there was church leagues. I'm not entirely sure,
but that's kind of what I understand there probably was.

(01:03:57):
I think I've heard some radio show somewhere that the
Mormon Church was quite big on that had their own
league and produced a very good players. Yeah, that's what
we'reight about tonight. Good evening, K it's Marcus. Welcome, hik
Hello Marcus.

Speaker 11 (01:04:17):
I'm just ringing up to let you know that the
interne Revenue Department in New Zealand was very strong in basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Right.

Speaker 11 (01:04:30):
And I started to work there in nineteen sixty two
and every year they had a basketball tournament. One year
was in the North Island and next year was in
the South Island and that had been going. I'm not
quite sure, but I think this has been going since

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not long after the war Second World War finished. Wow,
So it's been going for a long time. And when
we got married, and we got married so we could
go down to the basketball tournament in Dunedin and I
think it was the Need and Christ Church. They used

(01:05:16):
to set up courts in the big old wallshed you
know where they stored the wolf for youself, Yes, and
they'd set up about one corner of this great, big,
massive wolf store. They'd have about four courts in one
corner and needed a bike to get to it. And

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we had them all over every year. As I say,
we had them either the North or the South Island.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
Okay. Questions for UK. You worked at the Hamilton the.

Speaker 11 (01:05:50):
Tax department in Hamilton, Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
And was it for men? Did your husband work there also?

Speaker 11 (01:05:56):
Yes? Yes, they had men's teams and ladies teams. And
when I started playing in sixty two, we were playing
and I don't know if it was the Bledislow Hall
or the William Paul Hall. And then we went up
to the YMCA and they had two courts going then

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and they used to go from. I think we used
to start about US five six o'clock and they would
have their last game about ten o'clock at night. And
I think they were except for the weekend. They were
every night of the week. It was very popular.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
So it wouldn't just be a land with you. There'd
be other teams, no.

Speaker 11 (01:06:40):
No, no, no, there'd be all sorts of business teams
and different rugby clubs had teams. And we had a
lot of extremely good players in the Waycato area that
made the New Zealand top team. I can't remember their names.

(01:07:01):
Murray McMahon who became a New New Zealand player, and
oh Chap Espon I think, yeah, I know, we did
have some very good players and we used to have
in you know, in the Hamilton Association. We had some

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American teams tour and some Australian teams and back at
that stage, I know in Townsville in Australia they used
to play outside.

Speaker 12 (01:07:36):
Yeah they'd be right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:07:38):
But oh, I know, it's a wonderful game and we
had lots of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
Did I suppose the inland revenue they probably would be
in most towns, so so most towns lived in then
revenue team. Is that the way it worked?

Speaker 11 (01:07:49):
Yes, yes, every every office had a team and if
they didn't, they made one up to go to the tournaments.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Wow. So as soon as I suppose I said, the
new recruit comes in, they're taller for the team.

Speaker 18 (01:08:06):
The team.

Speaker 11 (01:08:06):
Yeah, yep, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
And did you play did you play for other teams
as well or just the inland revenue team?

Speaker 16 (01:08:13):
No?

Speaker 11 (01:08:13):
I just played for the Inland revenue but we played
in the local competitions. But this was a special portament
and it was always at Queen's birthday weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Wow.

Speaker 11 (01:08:29):
So it's been going for a long time in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Is it still going?

Speaker 11 (01:08:33):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
I imagine it'll be centralized in Land Revenue now. Is
it's still around the country as it must be.

Speaker 11 (01:08:41):
Well, as far as I'm aware, they're still having them.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Okay, Oh very interesting. Kay, thank you for coming through
and then incredibly interesting. Keep it going if you want
to talk about this eight hundred and eighty basketball in
New Zealand and what we're going to do with all
the court where we're going to get all the courts
we need five hundred more. It's a lot Marc's we

(01:09:05):
always had dancers or play in the church hall or
Thanksgiving festival. We brought along growing produce. Marcus. Basketball played
inside out of the elements also makes it more appealing
than running around in the rain and cod winsess. I'd
mentioned that would be the case too, But Fancy and

(01:09:26):
Baypark Speedway. They're trying to stop the birth about the
creation of basketball courts. They're saying hens off Baypark. Someone says, Marcus,
I think basketball maybe a short term thing, at like
netball soccer. I don't know if that's two things or
one thing, netball soccer, unless there's a game called netbull soccer,
which does sound like a short term. No, basketball will

(01:09:47):
be here forever. Most sports, there are many sports that
are just fads. I don't think I'm trying to think
sports that have come and gone quite quickly. I'll tell
you a sport that I reckon. I'm amazed it survives hockey.

(01:10:10):
When you ever heard anyone say, g I saw an
exciting hockey match last night, it seems to be a
whole sport that exists without any audience appeal whatsoever. And
there's that guy that retired this week. It has been
playing for twenty years. Couldn't even picture him Simon someone anyway,

(01:10:30):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine nine two text,
basketball and other stuff will get to the text before
too long. Now I'm watching Women's quit. Quite sure what
channel I've gone on the moment, but anyway, half past
ten houris to headlines, please Marcus.

Speaker 19 (01:10:45):
The Transport Agency has spent nearly eight hundred million dollars
on traffic management in the past three years. The Government's
revealed the spend on road cones and traffic management for
state highway maintenance and capital works. Transport Minister Simmy and
Brown announced in July that m ZTA would start publicly
reporting its spend, which had previously gone untracked. New Zealand's

(01:11:07):
new top cops says under his leadership, the ethos will
move away from policing by consent that was the controversial
approach of the outgoing commissioner Andy Costa. Richard Chambers has
been named today as Costa's replacement. And as you've been discussing,
times are changing for high school sport. Basketball is about
to become the top sport in schools, participation up sixty

(01:11:29):
one percent. More in the News at eleven and on
injied Herald dot co dot inseet.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Thank you, Alisa, twenty nine away from eleven Murray textas
I knew you were going to say, hockey lull your
terrible sport and always expensive all weather courts that cost
there's always fund and it was getting fundraising for millions
of dollars for hockey. Must be very very good at
getting funds for some reason. Oh, crakes a good point.
Indoor cricket was big back in the eighties and nineties.
That's exactly right. It's a very good point you make.

(01:11:56):
I think indoor cricket was big because they suddenly and
it must be because manufacturing moved offshore. There are a
lot of old warehouses, a lot of old ware house
space they need to use for people sit up indoor cricket.
But you're right, end or cricket was very big, and
not so much anymore. I know indoor netball's quite big.
No way you call it indoor netballs. You just call

(01:12:17):
it netball, shouldn't you it it's netball. But we're going
to get five hundred courts because you already think the
fastest growing school sport would be fortnite seems to what
everyone wants to play jumping. If you want to at
these topics or anything else. My name is Marcus. Got

(01:12:39):
evening welcome, HDDLE twelve. Whatever you want, that'd be nice
to hear from you. Wednesday feels like Thursday. Every windy
with strong winds coming up the country. That's a warning.
Although the fire is out in west of Todonga. It
seems to be sorted out. So anyway, that's why I've

(01:13:00):
got to tell you good evening, Ray. It's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Hello Marcus. Well, I had to go to the dentist
or somewhere, you know, they're going to take my head
off or something, and I got my book in my
hand about bitcoin, and the girl looked at me. This
is a reception, she said. Well, she said, I was

(01:13:24):
down at Dunedin at the university there, and there was
this young chap who oh he got fed up with
the course. He was playing with the computer and anyway,
he didn't turn up to the lectures and he carried
on playing with her. And then he sold his car

(01:13:46):
because he was playing with his computer. So he got
his money and then I don't know how much it was,
we'll say five hundred dollars. So this is twenty ten.

Speaker 6 (01:14:03):
So he.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Spent his carmony on bitcoin, which at that time you've
got one hundred to a dollar a dollar New Zealand.
So I don't know. He probably had five thousand, ten thousand,

(01:14:27):
probably fifty thousand for his five hundred dollars. Now, what
I'd like to know is, does anyone know the name
of this chap?

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
How did this come up at your dentist?

Speaker 16 (01:14:39):
Ray?

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Because I got my book in my hand. I'm trying
to work out I trying to work out about bitcoin,
how it works, and I got a book on bitcoin.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
What's the book called?

Speaker 6 (01:14:53):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
I have no idea because I put it back to
the library. You know, he got terribly boring after the
first one hundred pages, something about.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Okay, and so were you reading this book at the
dentist exactly? Okay. So I think a lot of those
people right in the early days of bitcoin, a lot
of them lost it all because there were so many
hecks and there were so many people that lost all
their bitcoin, or they sold it when it was down.
I don't think he would still have all that. Most
people I know with bitcoin have sold it or lost it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Well, this, this young man did not.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
Okay, Oh so you know more. Okay, well tell me, well, well.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
The the the girl of the dentist the exception said,
oh no, no, he sort of managed to hold on
and he's now an extremely wealthy man.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
Okay, so you don't know what as nighers?

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Yeah, exactly anyone.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
How did the dentists know all about it?

Speaker 9 (01:15:57):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Because she was part of the university.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Okay, okay, it's a good story. I'm gonna leave it there, Raye,
but thank you so much for me. It's too confusing.
Betty Marcus welcome, Hi, Betty.

Speaker 6 (01:16:14):
Ah, Hello.

Speaker 20 (01:16:16):
I wanted to say that my husband was playing basketball
in nineteen fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
Great, this is all we need to know about. Whereabouts
busy Well, he was.

Speaker 20 (01:16:27):
Working for the Physical Welfare Department of Internal Affairs.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
Oh Cheapest was there as well, yep.

Speaker 20 (01:16:34):
Is and he he coached there. He played there. We
moved to New Plymouth, he played and coached there. We
moved to tom Nui, he played and coached there, and
then we moved up north and he played and coached there.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:16:51):
And that was yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:16:54):
I always told him it was his first love. He
just so enjoyed.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
Basketball, so were there are quite if were you when
you seemed to be teams in leagues? Is that what
you're saying? This is in the fifty there were a
lot of people playing it.

Speaker 20 (01:17:08):
Oh, yes, and Tom Renui Queen's birthday weekend they had
a Maori tournament. Yes, we had teams from everywhere. It
was a wonderful, wonderful weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Were there a lot of people from church teams?

Speaker 20 (01:17:26):
No, okay, they were just teams made up from all
the people from the area and it was just, I
don't know, wonderful experience.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
And this is right back to nineteen fifty, nineteen fifty. Yeah, oh,
thanks for coming through, Petty Free Interest to keep your
calls coming through. Joe Marcus, welcome, How are you good, Joe?

Speaker 18 (01:17:51):
He's talking about basketball and other sports tonight. Well, a
lot of people don't know that. Caine Williamson, usual Creek captain,
who's my cousin. He was a great basketball player. I
don't know where he still plays it, but he used
to play. Because he's quite sured. He played in the

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middle mid court and the tall guys are the ones
of the defense and the tech on either end of
the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
Well, that makes sense because I know a lot of
people have a lot of sports. People that are coordinated
tend to be good at basketball, like like Jeff Wilson
was a very good basketballer or is it a good basketballer.

Speaker 18 (01:18:36):
Yeah, the there's a lot of people have got at
more than one sport.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
And Joe maybe that's why why basketball is not such
a fantastic sport because it does seem to be at
the top levels to be for redependent on height, doesn't it?

Speaker 11 (01:18:51):
Yes?

Speaker 18 (01:18:53):
Yeah, mostly Sandra herself. Sandra is Cane's mother. She was
a great net more player, be right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Yep, and she was a basketball she was ripped in
a basketball player too, I think yes.

Speaker 18 (01:19:13):
And Gain's father was a great cricketer, but he wasn't
quite good enough for the black Caps. This was years ago,
of course, because there were related is Sandra Kane's mother's
Kane's mother's father was a guy called Ian Johnson who
was originally from here from Christeech And he had a

(01:19:34):
brother called Bruce Johnson. And Bruce Johnson was.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
My father in law for goodness sake.

Speaker 11 (01:19:41):
And.

Speaker 18 (01:19:43):
Caine's parents plus one of his sisters. He's got three
sisters and named Anna, which is what my daughter's name.
They came down last year for a funeral, family funeral.
In fact, the two Johnson brothers that were their sister
that died. Okay and Kane's parents and one of his

(01:20:07):
sisters came down at the funeral. But they had to
be back. They just come down for the day. They
had to be back in Auckland that night to pick
up Kane. He'd just flying back from India from his
playing cricket over there. But I see today here today
he just had his first game for Northern Districts and

(01:20:29):
he got sixty because he did a serious coin injury
for some time.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Did you play basketball, Joe, No, No, But I was.

Speaker 18 (01:20:38):
A world champion. I've talked to you before about I
was a world champion fifty years ago. I think it
my particular.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Spart ice racer.

Speaker 18 (01:20:51):
Yes, that's right, I talked to you a long time
ago about it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
What year were your world champion?

Speaker 18 (01:20:58):
Seventy three? Very well, But originally I come on the
scene when I was well, got famous when I was seventeen.
My last year high school, I said a world junior
record and because that's been.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Broken outdoor indoor.

Speaker 18 (01:21:22):
Outdoor, but yeah, I did a weave. It indoor with
two types? Where did you set the record the two
types on Lake Ida?

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
Okay? When did your first step on the skates?

Speaker 18 (01:21:34):
When I was five? Because my father was a skater,
but he comes from down south. There was a lot
of naturalized, you know, outdoor ice and he was a
bit of an ice hockey player. Yes, and we were
the first city in New Zealand to get an indoor
ice rink.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
So what what lakes would you have?

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Where?

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
Was it always like Lake Ida for you?

Speaker 11 (01:21:56):
No?

Speaker 18 (01:21:57):
No, no, no, It's like I Air in Canterbury. We'll
get this place where you get for the four hundred
meter tree. There was a lake idl in Lake London
in Canterbury which the top of Porters passed. And in
central Itago there was Man of burn Dam. It's just

(01:22:17):
out of Alexandra and Ida burn Dam, which is near end.

Speaker 4 (01:22:22):
Fairly yep.

Speaker 18 (01:22:25):
But we used to have every second year. Every one
year we'd have in the New zeal champs on Lake Ida.
The next year we'd have them my Man of burn Dam. Okay,
but we had a lot of We've had a lot
of world champions speech skaters over the years, but unfortunately

(01:22:48):
in the Olympic Games, we've never done better than four.
We're still waiting to get a placing in the Winter Games.
And here we've had a lot of world champions beach skaters.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
Do you think the years, do you think we'll get there?

Speaker 6 (01:23:05):
Well?

Speaker 18 (01:23:05):
I hope though, hope.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
So yeah, Okay, nice to talk Joe. Thanks for calling
sixteen away from eleven. Catch your soon, Ellen, it's Marcus.

Speaker 6 (01:23:14):
Good evening here any Marcus basketball. Basketball has been going
quite a long time. It started off it's about with
the Wellington Fire Brigade in the nineteen forties. Oh wow,
and a couple of them went over to England and

(01:23:34):
got involved in promoting basketball over in England.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
I wonder what fibrigade got into it.

Speaker 6 (01:23:44):
Yeah, they played basketball and Wellington.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Do you wonder how that came about? I guess they
might have been yeah, okay, and they.

Speaker 6 (01:23:52):
Were quite good. And I started a basketball club off
in Taupo in nineteen sixty three, the Forest Routine.

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
Yes, and.

Speaker 6 (01:24:06):
Our basketball was going quite strongly in Tapo in the
nineteen fifties and sixties.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
So what sort of.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
Teams would there be? Were there established basketball teams or
they come from the work league, or tell me a
bit about that I'm just trying to come to terms
with where it all evolved from.

Speaker 6 (01:24:25):
Oh, well, when when I started a team off in
Tapo that there was a Bank of New Zealand team. Yes,
Forest is at w Iraqi, just up north of Tapo.
They were very strong, and yeah, all sorts of clubs here,

(01:24:45):
so it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
Seemed it came from workplaces would have teams. Is that right, Yeah,
they'd be right, Okay, that's interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:24:53):
And then I moved to I started a team off
there in nineteen sixty three and we learned the game.
First year wouldn't do too good, but then we were
quite strong in our second year, and that was quite
interesting because we were we had a forest routee from
out on a napier road and we had to travel

(01:25:16):
sixteen miles at nighttime and get back before the power
went off on the local generator after ten thirty. And
then I moved to rote Ruh and I started a
basketball club club here with the with the teachers. We

(01:25:36):
had a men's and two men's and a women's team
from the teachers, and then we incorporated other organizations and
we changed our name to Combine Services in the Road
and we had up to seven teams and our club
and I was a coach to the team, and I

(01:26:01):
become manager of the Basketball Association, a life member of
the roader of basketball. Now okay, and talking about basketball courts,

(01:26:21):
the high schools have basketball courts. We used to train
our club there at nighttime. And one of the high
schools and road in another high school, a Rodora Boys
High School that there was a club called All Stars.
Used to train there and we trained with the Catholic

(01:26:44):
College and road room there assembly hall head basketball hoops up.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
Oh, you've had long involvement with the game then now
and haven't you well.

Speaker 6 (01:26:55):
Hang here okay? From nineteen sixty three were you were.

Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
You in the fire brigade in Wellington? Is it how
your involvement started? No, that that wasn't how I got
How did you get into it?

Speaker 6 (01:27:17):
I started the basketball was quite strong and rode and
I'm sorry. In Tapo in the earlier sixties. It was
nineteen sixty three, the forestry team made a forestry team
and we got a couple of goals sied up at
the place called sixty bar eight. It was on the

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that was a the code name of the forestry area.
The division was sixty bar eight was named of our team.

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
And did you have did you have backboards and things
to practice out there?

Speaker 6 (01:27:56):
Yeah, we got a couple of erected. The forest ranger
helped us put the We put them up at school.
I was a teacher out there at the forestry there
sixteen x eight as the only teacher out there. And
here we put basketball goals up outdoors on our school grounds.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
It's a good story. And thank you so much for calling.
I appreciate your ringing tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
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