But was it narrow inside (26 November 2024)

After asking abut Christmas photos and butterfly tattoos, Marcus gets into talking about the final flight of the Concorde in 2003.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from News Talks,
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Boom, just like that. Here I am here?

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Are you here?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I am there? Are you here? On midnight? A lot
to say, long time to say it. Good evening. Oh
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine to text.
I've got a question, I've got questions. I've got things
to say. We've got to show. First off, the bat
Everyone I see has got a butterfly tattoo? What are they? Sublie?
Everything symbolizes something. What is it? Butter You know how

(00:36):
there's tattoos and all you will You will love your tattoos,
don't you? What is one that is a butterfly? Does
that mean you are reborn or you've come through a
caterpillar stage and you're about to soar. I'm seeing a
lot of them, and well, it's not for me a
butterfly tattoo. But there must be something that it talks

(00:57):
to some people about. Is it if you've been sick
and a well, is that what it's about. I've never
talked really much about the symbolism of tattoos, but I
imagine I have something anked on you. It's probably put some
food into it, so they're curious to know about that.
What's it for? They're normally on the shoulder or the

(01:18):
clavicle or the elbow, mainly on women maybe anyway, often
wondered about that. It's only because I've seen so many
I thought, well, Hector, there's something's going on there. People
are going through stuff. Is it a midlife thing? Because
someone tell me the answer to that, butterfly tattoos. Normally,

(01:40):
I'm not that colored in and they're never monarchs, you say,
I would have gone from not that I'm thinking of
getting a butterfly tattoo. By the way, I'm not thinking
of getting any tattoo, by the way, not even the spiral.
But you got the answer there. Oh, by the way,
too is ill wait your answers on that. So some

(02:01):
of you will have them, and that's fine. And I'm
not saying they don't mean anything, But what do they mean?
I've got just watching the cricket that go on the side.
Is just been hit by a ball in the head.
Oh it's on Grego's World. Get in touch, Marcus till twelve.
The other thing, too, is I await your explanations about
the butterfly tattoos probably the last five years, two years,

(02:24):
maybe I've been seeing them everywhere as I await your
wisdom on this, because I know a lot of tattoos
have symbolism, like tears and spider webs. I mean, they're
all symbols, aren't they are they?

Speaker 4 (02:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
If you've got an explanation for that eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty Ballentine's and christ Church traveler foot there
with their Father Christmas, because what they are doing is
they are shooting the photo on an iPhone. Yeah, so

(03:02):
I think it's safe to say the time of the
photo with Santa is over because we've all got so
many photos. Once upon a time to get a photo
of your child was very very rare to have a
developed I mean most of us have my vintage the

(03:24):
photos of us as children would be on Father Christmas's knee.
These days, kids would be photographed five times a day,
I would imagine, so I's nothing special about it. So
I would imagine if you're into nostalgia, it's probably the
time to go and get your last photo, because I
don't reckon there's going to be Father Christmas is in

(03:44):
the mouls much more. In Vcago, we've got no more.
We've got no nhient J's. They had Father Christmas that's gone,
that closed down. There also used to be a shop
you could go and dress up. There was a shopping
in Vacabo. You can go and dress up and be
part of the seen in the main. But that was

(04:08):
a Christian bookshop and that bookshop too has gone. So
the options aren't great for getting your photo with Father Christmas.
I reckon it's past. I reckon, no one's that excited him. Well,
probably we do it once because we headed ourselves. But
the kids done into it. It was just shot on
a cell phone and they email you the jpeg. That's
not special, is it?

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Then?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Of course is the vetting of the Father Christmases. That
probably is not quite straightforward. I imagine the past has
probably been all sorts of people been Father Christmas is
that probably shouldn't have been where they look the part
got a lot to say about this also. So there
we have. That's just the starter for two butterflies at
Father Christmases and five years will be none left in
the malls. That's my prediction to you. But sometimes I'm wrong.

(04:58):
I'm wrong about fake meat. No one wants it. Fake
meat gone was going to take over the word incredible burger,
the world, the incredible burgers, YadA YadA ya, all those things.
They never got the consistency right, nothing's quite like chewing
meat anyway. There My start is, what have you got

(05:20):
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nineteen ninety two to
text looking forward to your input tonight. Butterflies and Father Christmas,
that's just the starters. Who someone said the butterfly is
the symbol for the killer bees? Is that right?

Speaker 5 (05:44):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (05:44):
No, someone said the butterfly ten was a symbol of
the rival gang of the killer bees, the kilor butterflies.
I didn't know that, But anyway, get in touch, you
got anything to say about that? And I don't think
it's a bad thing that Father Christmas is no longer
in the mauls or the grotto. And there's a word
that needs to reinvent, grotto, Santa's grotto. It sounds like

(06:05):
anti empty on on a matapao, it sounds like and no,
it's just not a good word. Grotto. It's not a
bad word. But I think they can come with something better,
a natural, artificial cave is a grotto, No way, Father,

(06:28):
Christmas is in a grotto if it as a natural
place to be nicky Marcus welcome, neck, Marcus neck welcome.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
Yeah, yeah yeah. Can you hear your own.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Good, perfect line you've got there? It's going well?

Speaker 6 (06:44):
Okay, yeah, okay, really Santa Claus and I am a
professional sentacause I've just finished the day of it. What
I've been going for two weeks really do on an
eighty gigs book right up to sevenpo Christmas E I

(07:04):
started two weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Over to you say, it's all booked out.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
Yeah, I'm in a I'm in a mall. I'm in
a shopping center, and there's six of us centers on
the floor at any one moment, and we've booked out
right through the Christmas There five thousand children, for.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Goodness sake, is it? Are you doing it with a
cell phone?

Speaker 6 (07:30):
No? No, this is a professional center experience set up
in a big department store in Queens fead Aukford, and
it's all They've got proper photographers there, one in every room,
stick rooms, sick rooms, center in every room was obvious
with siding doors, and we can only spend five minutes

(07:53):
for the child. I've done two peeks there today three
hours each.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Goodness is this a smith and Coey's correct?

Speaker 7 (08:03):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Because they were closing now they now they better than ever.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
Well, I've been there for a number of years and
that's not the only place on that. I'm at another
ball as well, and it's yeah, it's been going for
a number of years because if the world renowned Sandra experience,
I've had families come in and they're blown away. And
this Christmas spirit as far as children and Santa and

(08:32):
the photos, it's five as ever even all lies.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
What are they wanting.

Speaker 8 (08:39):
To me?

Speaker 5 (08:40):
Boy?

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Do you ask them what they want for Christmas?

Speaker 9 (08:43):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (08:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well yes, we're usually get school
up a bit before and so those who don't know
we make suggestionis but the most most popular has been
year after year Lego it ever ceases to amaze me.
And the other one is Squish Meadows, Squish Meadows and L's.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, and it's booked out. What does appear on the website,
it's all booked out. You're right.

Speaker 6 (09:14):
It's also said it's footybook go through to Christmas Eve.
That's that's uh.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Families coming through it sounds like valentine'soul. Take a leaf
out of your book. Next, sounds like you're doing that.
Right there you go that Smith and Cowey's booked out.
Daniel Marcus.

Speaker 10 (09:32):
Welcome, Hey Marcus, How are you good?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Daniel?

Speaker 10 (09:37):
Yeah, I just say your last caller. He's so correct.
Santas are so popular. Just for a lark, I had
some time off, so I put my name down to
be a Santa. And this was in the Westfield malls
in Auckland, and it was It was awesome, Marcus. It
was modern experience.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
When was this?

Speaker 10 (09:59):
Oh this is maybe four years ago? Okay, yeah, And
we were so busy.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
And how how has it been at Westfield? Have you
been at Westfield this year?

Speaker 9 (10:10):
Not yet?

Speaker 10 (10:11):
Nah?

Speaker 9 (10:11):
Not yet.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
I wonder if I wonder if they've all got their
own father. We'll find out tonight. I wonder if they've
got them all.

Speaker 10 (10:18):
So the people that I worked for, they had their
contract for all of Westfield. Yes, and so there was
a bunch of US centers. We went for a little
little training course and we could only work six our
shifts because it was too much. After that, you got
so hot in that suit, and.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
What would happen I guess it's because it'd be air conditioning,
wouldn't they No, there was a.

Speaker 10 (10:44):
Fan on you, but you know, dealing with all the
kids of different families, it's yeah, it got really hot.
And I'd just like to say that a lot of
kids at a certain age definitely believe in the center.
So say, from newborns up to say two, they would cry,

(11:05):
most likely cry sitting on Chance's knee. From from two
to four or five or six, they would totally believe
in Santa. And after that they kids from seven then
they knew it was a lark and it was like
taking these taking the mickey.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
So yeah, I don't know if I think sometimes I
go older than that too, Daniel, But good on you,
thank you. Let us know if you go there this year.
What happened, oh eight hundred and eighty and eighty because
Valentine's it's the cell phone Marcus to people still pedal
family portraits in the malls. They became too expensive after
a while. Butterfly tattoos, what do they mean? And the
article about the Valentines, this is what's happened with Father Christmas.

(11:45):
Right here you go Valentine's charges twenty five for Santa
photos taken on phone sparked online backlash. Parents have expressed
exasperation after top Cross your department still started using a
smartphone to take photos of kids with Santa Claus this Christmas.

(12:05):
The one seventy year old Valentine's store is known for
its upmarket brand selection and its annual grotto was always
popular with local families. This year's grotto's back national backlash online,
with parents taking a social media annoyed it paying twenty
five dollars for photos taken on a phone. I can
take great photos on my iPhone and some professional but

(12:26):
definitely not something that anyone should pay for. One mum said,
I'm hoping this is some misunderstanding, as a lot of
people have paid for quality photograph, said another language alert.
I did think when I saw it, that's a bit
shit using a phone. Another added. One local said they

(12:49):
found it quite disappointed to pay twenty five dollars for
someone to take a picture of my kid with Center
on a phone. A Valentine's spokesperson told The Herald it
changed to a phone camera this year to speed up
the process for customers. Hello, is it that much longer
clicking on a camera with filming it. I wouldn't have filmed.

(13:10):
It'd be digital, wouldn't It wouldn't take much longer. We
were advised by expert this phone camera would provide a
better photo and an overall better experience for our customers.
Photos will be taken using a Google Pixel phone with
sixty four megapixel camera. What they should have done is
they should have disguised the iPhone as a proper camera.

(13:35):
But people have said that the results are not up
to par. Such poor quality compared to last pixelated and
colors are off. If someone's been there, do they print
it out? Do they give it print out? I just
get an eat. I think you might print it out.
Our printed photo was orange. It made us all redheads wow.

(13:57):
Careful about the redheads people. Valentine said it was taking
the complaints extremely serious and wants to ensure every customer's
photo is perfect. They probably should just have another grotter
where you can just take your own photo and pay
ten dollars or something might be easier. Marcus Westfield, more
than record in christ Church have photos stand to photos

(14:19):
fully booked out. Lots of people getting their pits photed
with Santa. It's a big thing there you go. It's
a big thing getting your pets. Go figure, Go figure, Marcus.
Don't butterfly tattoos have something to do with the French
prisoner papillon. I'm asking the question. I don't know about photos,

(14:41):
I don't know about well, I don't know about butterfly tattoos.
For a start, Father Christmas seems kind of up and
down as we feel we're getting ridy for that Christmas
season that's snuck up quite quickly, hasn't it funny? Feels
slightly christmasly. I'll tell you that one thing we haven't
ever even in the Advent calendar shock story yet. Last

(15:06):
year there was a cheese Advent calendar. But I spoke
to a guy that owns a supermarket. He said no
one bought them. He took them all tramping. The best
Advent calendar last year was not the cheese. The best
Advent calendar was an Advent calendar of Advent calendars. So

(15:27):
everything you opened was an Advent calendar of an Advent
calendar that was an Advent calendar. I think that's the
way it goes. The Lego ones were pretty good. I
think in the past might be good again. By the way,
the Concord retired from service this day, twenty one years ago.

(15:50):
I kind of wish I paid more attention to the
Concord at the time, but with my age, it always
seemed to be there. I didn't realize it wasn't going
to be there forever. This day. In nineteen forty two,
the movie Casablanc premiered. I'm quite sure what that was
happening with the war. I guess they just went ahead
thought that would be a good thing to release. But

(16:13):
nineteen forty two and I've got more information about the
guy that went missing, that guy that was found last night.
It was the dog footprints that led people to find
the man that was missing in aw Tucky Forks. Sergeant
Marcus Fellerhoff said it was unlikely the man would have

(16:35):
been found if it were not for his dog. Robbie
deserves a lot of credit in this locating and safe
return of his owner. After he was found, he was
given some food and water and walked out of the
bush with his rescue was at to the dog. Obviously,

(16:57):
the guy that was missing was chopping out Santa Foo
as your book These Days booked out till Christmas, and
that's I think Coey's. I guess people probably thought that
they were going to it might be the last year,
because I'm not quite sure how much longer. I mean,
they've said they'll have a go of it, but you

(17:18):
never sure, are you with those things?

Speaker 9 (17:20):
Greg?

Speaker 11 (17:20):
Greg?

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Marcus are welcome?

Speaker 12 (17:24):
Hello Marcus?

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Greg?

Speaker 10 (17:27):
How are you doing good?

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Thank you? Greg?

Speaker 13 (17:31):
That's good?

Speaker 8 (17:33):
Are you issue with how you?

Speaker 2 (17:37):
I don't know the people. The people aren't happy with it.

Speaker 12 (17:41):
Well, when when you think of technology and it's not
actually the finished product doesn't come from the phone. It
comes from the camera in the pone, which is probably
as good or not better than camera.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
I imagine some people are on the misconception that that
used to be done more recently with Yeah, I can't
quite work it out because all cameras these days are
digital and the cell phone a cell phone camera is
as high quality or can be as high quality as
any camera.

Speaker 12 (18:24):
Probably the only well difference being is the creative photo
paper that it's printed on. Because if I take a
PHOTOCT with my camera, or I take a just.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Thinking it's camera, it's going to your headlines, but don't
go anywhere, Greg. Back to you, Greg, So you're saying
it's the paper, because actually the cell phone can be
as powerful as any camera. Is that right?

Speaker 12 (18:48):
That's correct. So you're you're ending up with a basically
the same finished product, whether it's taken with a digital
camera or it was taken with a phone or I
can't see the misconception of people thinking, oh, this is
is a bit cheap and nasty dati with the code
rather than the camera. But that's what you get at

(19:13):
the finished product.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Basically, and I think probably with misconceptions. Also, they really
gallop along on social media, don't they, because people see
it and they take umbrage and they pour petrol on it.

Speaker 12 (19:26):
Yeah, until somebody comes along and actually picks bad.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
You know, yeah, I can. And you're clearly a photographer,
are you.

Speaker 12 (19:38):
I'm an amateur of the photographer A year.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Brilliant, nice dear from agreg I think we all are
greetings and welcome people. My name is Marcus. Welcome here.
Toll twelve eight hundred and eighty ten eighty seems to
be anywhere between twenty five dollars at twenty dollars and
thirty five dollars some of your book and a get
a five minute session. I thought the joy was queuing
everyone's to book these days, don't they Book? Book, Book,
book book? Marcus have a kaleidoscope from Collinson's and Cunningham's

(20:07):
seant to cave Parmeerstonal when five years old. It's eighty
one years old now still works fine, will pass on
to my grandparents. Marcus days the birthday of Morris McDonald,
co founder of McDonald's. Do we celebrate that.

Speaker 14 (20:25):
One way?

Speaker 2 (20:25):
McDonald's don't do a father Christmas make a lot of sense,
wouldn't it. I think Greg had some good points, though.
I think people and I'm kind of extrapolate what he's saying.
It's just people are upset that they think they're actually
skimping on the camera. But that well, I guess we've

(20:48):
got the focus as much. I don't know if people
got rights to be concerned if you're taking the photos
on a cell phone and not a proper camera and
inverted commas. And by the way, don't do those ear
inverted commas. Always struggled with those when people do it
with their little hens heights them. It's Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 15 (21:11):
How's it going, Marcus good?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Thank you tell me how you're going?

Speaker 5 (21:13):
All right?

Speaker 15 (21:14):
Yeah, not too bad? Hey, McDonald's. I was in Australia
last week and actually don't care frequent that restaurant that much,
but I noticed over there they have the underneath each
item on the menu, they have the calorie intact. Wow,
And I thought, wow, you know, it kind of turned

(21:36):
me off because there was the big met combo in
then it was four thousand calories.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
I would be be four hundred, wouldn't it?

Speaker 15 (21:44):
Oh something are I did anyway? But the number just
put me off and I thought, I haven't been to
McDonald's hearing any ill for ages, but that would probably
do it for a lot of people if they saw
the calory intake.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
On me at twenty calories and a big met combo.
Would that mean because you're getting more value for money
or you're getting more arteries clogged up? I don't know
how you go with that one.

Speaker 16 (22:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (22:12):
I just thought it was interesting, you know. And this
is not just McDonald's in Australia. This is Hungry Jects,
which is bigger King over there and KFC and whatnot.
So it must be a law that they have that
each fast foods is to share case helm and the
calories and whatever they sell.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
I think it's in Queensland Queensland Health. The legislation requires
the average coloredial content to be displayed for standard food
items displayed on a menu. It was Queensland. A yeah,
it was Queensland because you know, you don't know, you
don't even think it's Queensland been the fast acting. But
they seem to be ahead of the curve with that one.

Speaker 15 (22:54):
Well maybe it's probably we should look at it over here.
It's a curve, you know, fast food in this country.
I just thought it was a good initiative. It just
quickly the McDonald's and Wanaka that place. It's too beautiful
term something nasty like.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
That, But she is.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
I just think that people they're a bit precious and
why should the people there think. Yeah, I don't yeah,
I don't know about that. I am I don't think.
I don't think war OCA is coming out of the discussion,
well because they look like total nimbiists. But yeah, I'm
sure they'll get it because they've got no good reason

(23:34):
to turn it down.

Speaker 15 (23:36):
Well, you know, it's going to bring in jobs. And
I think that the Queenstown McDonald's starts at twenty eight
dollars a dow there's a lot of students and whatnot,
so it would probably happen again with Monica.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I think it's sure. Tim, nice to talk to. Thank you, Nigel, Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 16 (23:53):
Good evening. They're Marcus. We're of the same demographic, so
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
So you sound older than me. You sound like about
twelve years older than me.

Speaker 16 (24:03):
Oh no, if you were more than sixty five, just
five years really correct.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
I'll try and sound pipier. Okay, oh yeah, anyway, yep,
same demographic as you. Nigel.

Speaker 16 (24:17):
Yeah, I no bullshit there, no, Why would I lie
about my ang Marcus McDonald's first and McDonald's in one occa.
It's for the snobby snobbishness, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Absolute absolute total snobbishness.

Speaker 16 (24:36):
Because their closest McDonald's would be franked and have they
got them? Have they got a McDonald's, rest on them? Franked?
And before you go to Queenstown it's.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Sort of one just by the turn off there there's
one like it that that's where it is. I know
because I took my kid in there and he threw
up the airport. But there might be one is there
running Cromer's. No, I don't think there was in Cromwell
and there's not one an error and Alexandre they've got
they've got a much talked about KFC there.

Speaker 16 (25:05):
Yeah, Queenstown's got two. See the last time I was
there they only had the one. So yeah, Father Christmas
how yeah, our Father Christmas work up the center parade
this weekend and he ends up in the Meridian Mall.
Oh yep do they not? Do they not have a
Father Christmas in your new shopping mall and number Cargle.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
To be honest, I haven't been in it. It always used
to be an ancient jays and I think that's where
people's loyalties would be. But I'll tell you what, Nigel,
I'll venture into the into the mall. I don't know what.
There's not much in there, but I'll report back tomorrow. No,
I won't Thursday. Trevor Marcus Welcome.

Speaker 17 (25:48):
Hi Marcus. Trevor here from Auckland. I heard you're talking
about the high cost of photos at Smith and cost
five dollars and I thought i'd let you know that
I went to art Auction today and if you had
a spiled three point one million, you could have bought
a goldie.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
To go to three point one.

Speaker 17 (26:08):
Three point one million.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
That's right, it's a good it's a good e.

Speaker 17 (26:15):
Plus the extra twenty one percent which premium mark, you know,
fires premium so money.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
There was a nice railway? Who was at lovel Smith?

Speaker 13 (26:27):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Did you see how much that went for Sheffield Canterbury Railway?
Did you see that one? Beautiful?

Speaker 17 (26:37):
Don't remember it.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Was number it was number five, number five.

Speaker 17 (26:43):
I'll just see what it went for. I wrote them
all down at that stage. Number five. It went for.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Eight thou oh yeah, eight to twelve estimation? Was it good?
It's worth it? Okay?

Speaker 10 (26:57):
Was it? That was?

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Was it a bitter in the room for the gold?

Speaker 17 (27:01):
He was on the phone on the phone, the two
people on the phone, and the only one's really buddy,
nobody's got that's being money in the pocket head?

Speaker 5 (27:11):
They well, no, but I mean.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
They're quite a good investment because they all because there's
not they're not doing any more of them.

Speaker 17 (27:19):
No, And that's the highest price for one for an option,
although there had been some private sales at a higher price.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, I don't know, yeah, okay, I thought there would
be about twice of what that normally go normally go for,
But of course I don't.

Speaker 17 (27:37):
Usually go to I don't usually go to auction, Simon,
and have I an idea of how much they are?

Speaker 2 (27:42):
What? Why did you chose to go tonight?

Speaker 18 (27:45):
I was looking at.

Speaker 17 (27:49):
One later on the auction.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Susil Oh yep, sure, yep, I know his work yep.

Speaker 17 (27:59):
So I thought, oh, that's got a good one. Went
for a reasonable price. Did you buy it went for
a reasonable price?

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Okay, I want to ask if you bought it? A
nice thanks? It nice to talk, Thank you, Earl Whin.
It's Marcus. Good evening, Yeah, how are you good? Thanks?

Speaker 5 (28:15):
Earl?

Speaker 19 (28:16):
I was like to talk about the Concord.

Speaker 13 (28:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (28:21):
In the eighties I was working in Sydney of the
Locksmouth and we were putting the master Kie system through
Cogor golf course and it's higher up than the airport,
but it overlooks the airport. And before the new terminal
went in, I saw the Concord land into Sydney on

(28:41):
a clear, beautiful day and it was one of the
best things I've ever seen. The plane coming down and
the noise it made and the distance it traveled on
the runway was really incredible to watch. And then I
was also lucky to see it leave the next day
and we're gund all its engines up and really got

(29:01):
an effort to get off the ground. It was one
of the best things I've ever seen. I wished it
was still flying.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
And Congre's North Sydney eight.

Speaker 19 (29:10):
No Congres runs into Mascot where the.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 19 (29:20):
So you've got Cogra, Larparous and around the end because
when you're flying into city you actually go past the
big oil refinery at Larparous. Yes, when you're coming in
to land.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, but I don't know.

Speaker 19 (29:37):
I don't reckon you'd see it now because they've put
a brand new terminal and I was only there for
my nephew's birthday a couple of months ago, and the
terminal's so big it dwarfs the golf course near so
I don't reckon you'd see it. But I was really
disappointed when they did cancel the flight of it. I
think it's one of the best things ever to see flying.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
They I don't know what the story of the conquer is.
I know they had an accident in France and one
of them had some stuff on the runway and it
was destroyed, I think, and the people on board. Is
that right? And maybe it was very expensive to run
as far as fuel. Whend is that what it was about?
I can't remember remember why.

Speaker 19 (30:22):
I think it's I think it was a better both.
But didn't they leave so many million years that were
on board the plane when when it crashed I imagine,
so yeah, so I think it's they decided to stop
it then. But I'll tell you what, it's amazing. It
was really amazing to watch fly. And the noise was incredible.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
That's what's one of the reasons that excessive cost, high
fares and loud noise. I thought no one much liked
the noise. I think that's what it was about. Just
too noisy.

Speaker 19 (30:52):
Oh, certainly impressive.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
And tiny inside. It was like a bus, wasn't it.
I mean it was quite small, two seats each side.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
Yeah, yeah, but I liked how the nose droop fantastic.

Speaker 19 (31:06):
Yeah, it's just a beautiful thing to watch fly.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I saw some images the other day of a Russian
one which must have been quite similar with the nose
that came down. I think still flies. Someone will know
about that. We've got people there into planes. Jeff Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 14 (31:20):
Their home, mate, Jeff here. Jeff, Hi, I want to
add something about the concord because I saw it in
nineteen seventy four. I was living in either Cogra or
Carlvin and then a made of mind said to me, Jeff,
the Concord's coming in. So we took off and we

(31:41):
positioned ourselves to be able to see it land and
it was quite incredible. What I was quite amazed about.
It didn't use a parachute to pull the plane up,
and we thought that was.

Speaker 10 (31:57):
Part of it, but it was totally.

Speaker 8 (32:01):
It was totally great.

Speaker 20 (32:02):
To watch it.

Speaker 14 (32:03):
I took a couple of photos, but they the highs
of the teams coming off the plane. Sort of. I
didn't get very good fighters, but at least I got.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Did you carry a camera with you in those days, Jeeve?

Speaker 14 (32:21):
Yeah, yeah, I had a camera. It was a camera
probably more modern than New Zealand, but it was a
camera that took a firo and it developed itself.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Oh yeah, they call that polaroid. Bruce Marcus, welcome, Oh.

Speaker 7 (32:37):
Good evening. That was quick, the concord thing. I went
to school in Filton before I saw the light and
moved here, and a friend of mine many years later
having I personally witnessed the takeoff of the first British one,
which was after the French one first took off. But

(32:57):
my friend's job, working in Farmborough in aircraft research, was
going out to buy the frozen chickens that they were
going to fire at the cockpit to see how it
would Sustainy, isn't it? Yeah it was I did. And
the comments you made about the tragic end of Concord,

(33:20):
it was a bunch of Germans just going on a
kind of a a trip somewhere, so they weren't all
necessarily millionaires. In fact, I paid for my father, who
was dying of cancer, to have a little flight on Concord.
And at the end they used to do little trips
around the Bay of Biscay and things like that, taking

(33:42):
off from heath Row and just serve them lunch and
go it twice the speed of sound. So it's very good.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
I always see what it was that a successful thing
for your father to do. He was appreciative of.

Speaker 7 (33:54):
That, well, he said, thank you.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
I just sometimes wonder if people, when they've got a
bucketless thing, if the bucketless thing is what they thought.

Speaker 7 (34:05):
But yeah, well I had a freebie on Concord because
I had a flight canceled and for whatever reason they
gave me a flight back. Certainly, if you wanted to
cross the Atlantic from New York to London, that was
the way to do it, rather than being on the

(34:25):
plane for seven hours or something. It was a good
way to fly. But as you say, I mean it
was another ridiculous project which was letting the people through.
The whole thing was massively subsidized by the British government
through taxpayers, and the only people that could really fly

(34:45):
on it were if you were lucky.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Oh okay, So there was huge tech, some subsidies.

Speaker 7 (34:51):
Massive, massive, and we're talking eleven to sixteen billion by
the twenty twenty three in those you know in the.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
In the business the business model staked up.

Speaker 7 (35:05):
Did it no, No, apart from you know, politicians and
hugely rich people being able to cross backwards and forwards.
It was it was pretty cool when they did the
Bob Geldoff thing, the whole concerts which are coming up
in the news now, you know this Bob Geldoff thing
where what's his name the drummer for Genesis, Phil Collins.

(35:30):
He appeared in both concerts because of the time difference
and Concord could actually go faster than the world.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
That was nothing like, nothing like, nothing like greendiose spending
when you're trying to save money for Africa.

Speaker 8 (35:46):
Is that?

Speaker 7 (35:48):
Thanks for the chat market.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Nice to talk to you too, Bruce. I was actually
listening because of course it's been it's been kinceled in
some ways, Bende. Do they know it's Christmas? Because times
have changed. Marcus the other half has just told me
that when he lived in Wood in the UK, hed
he throw and he set fly out at one fifteen
every days that the noise was mind blowing and a

(36:12):
quick Google says they never sold one, not one, not
one Concord was ever sold. So he's quite right about
the government subsidy. Well, that's a busy hour, isn't it. Marcus.

(36:33):
The conquered flow of cross which a few times in
the nineties and one time part of the tail fell off,
but it managed to lend safely at Christitch Airport. Marcus
potentially a proper camera, specifically a digital SRL or moralist
SLR camera could take a far better picture. The phone
cameage and it's much larger high quality lens that led
to a lot more light and more precise focusing mechanism.

(36:54):
Though it's astonishing what some phone cameras can do. Some
people say the focusing on cell phone cameras is better
also it's automatic. Marcus. If you ever taken a photo
of the cell phone, you will find most of the
time that the focus is better than some people using
a camera. End of story. I agree. I think probably

(37:21):
for me, the camera is more important than the ability
to phone people. I love my cell phone camera because
you've always got it, and that's how you take great photos,
is to always have your camera with you. And once
upon a time we didn't always have our cameras with
us because they were cumbersome and a hassle to develop.

(37:47):
These days, clicking it's there? What about a butterfly tattoo?
What's that about? What is that symbolis that you're no
longer a caterpillar? Haven't seen many people with a caterpillar tattoo.
I'm not pro or anti tattoo. I'm tanto agnostic, but
I am tattoo curious. It's been a promising start the

(38:08):
people of New Zealand. Of those listening beyond Father Christmas,
is it all right to take your photo with a
cell phone like Valentine's are doing. People say that it's
grainy and they came out in the printed form with
red hair. Not there's anything wrong with having red hair,

(38:28):
but there wasn't red, so that's the concern there. It
didn't look like them. I don't know if this is
not a bit of a mountain in a molehill taking
photos with the cell phone, because the quality can be good.
I don't know where the grotto is it down by
the cafe downstairs. Last time was at Valentine's. It wasn't
what it was, and you do wonder about it. But anyway,

(38:50):
there's that. We're also talking about the symbolism of tattoos.
What does a butterfly tattoo symbolize? And why does no
one have cateripullar tattoos or a chrystalist. We're also talking
about the Concord. It stopped flying this day in two

(39:13):
thousand and three, retired from service, hugely subsidized by the government.
They didn't sell any no one wanted them. Too noisy,
too expensive. I can't remember what the other two was.
Too noisy, too expensive, and too consuming of fuel. I

(39:37):
remember times in the school yard that we had to
go outside and look up for a plane that was
flying over. But it seemed to be a lot was
happening in aviation in those days. It might have been
the Concord, it might have been the seven three seven.
I can't remember all of it. When you're young, you
don't know that you're actually witnessing aviation history. Oh, we
did with a man on the moon, because that was

(39:59):
literally out of space. But planes and flights, I'm not
so sure. And the art market with the Goldie, now,
I'll tell you what you're ahead of the news. With
his channel. Last night we found out that that guy
from or Tucky Fools had been found beforenyone else. And
tonight we've found out from someone that was there that

(40:20):
the Goldie went for a huge price. When you say
three point two million, but there will be a seller's
premium of fifteen percent on that. There'll be GST on
the premium two that works out at twenty two percent. Jeeps,
but they're not making any more Goldies, and this was

(40:40):
an extremely high quality one. Apparently, well I mean anyone
said that, I mean not apparently Roscoe. It's Marcus good.

Speaker 13 (40:50):
Evening, Oh are you Marcus said it was quick.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, good Roscoe, good good, hey god.

Speaker 13 (40:57):
There are documentaries on online about the Concord.

Speaker 8 (41:03):
To me, it was a.

Speaker 13 (41:04):
Beautiful plane or thought land here in Norkland and god seventies.
I was only kid. But there was about five or
six reasons why that crashed into the hotel, and none
of them were really the Concord's fault.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
No, but still.

Speaker 13 (41:23):
I know it was a beautiful plane and only held
one hundred odd people and it was very luxury flying
in the.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Time, but there seemed to be no demand for it.
Why did they even manage to get it off the
ground apart from the fact that it was.

Speaker 13 (41:44):
Super solid.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, I guess that was at a I guess it
would have gone to the moon. Everyone was looking like
things to do.

Speaker 9 (41:52):
Yep.

Speaker 13 (41:54):
But there's an amazing documentary online on it. Every reason
why it crashed, and none of them was the plane.
It was all human era and I really worse. And
you look at that plane that has one beautiful.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Plane to show they didn't keep one running, yeah shows yeah,
or Air Force one.

Speaker 13 (42:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Trump could fly around the world in it. When you
go to see these other world leaders like and I've
got a concord what have you got?

Speaker 13 (42:30):
Yeah, and climate change and everything that. No, you know, God,
I missed that plane, I really do.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Did you go out to the airport deliberately to see
it as a child?

Speaker 13 (42:46):
Yes, yes, the game here wants.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I think it came in more than once. Also, I
came to christ Judge too, didn't it.

Speaker 13 (42:57):
Yeah, I'm not sure. I was pretty young, but I was.
That's a memory eached in my mind.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
But was it Auckland?

Speaker 21 (43:05):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
I think someone hied it for the millennium for a
trip to remember that. I've spoken to him on the show.

Speaker 13 (43:15):
Yeah. No, Well they miss have had a bit of money.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Well, I don't know how many times had the concord came.

Speaker 13 (43:25):
Yeah, but on this documentary, I say, as they opened
a bottle of wine on the concord and pour one
glass out of it, they don't save it for the
next flight. All the bottles of wine are brand new
on the next flight. Everything was silver service for good.
So silver service it all. The one and a half

(43:47):
times has been of sounder than bad.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
What about air crash investigates? Did you watch that episode
of that when they looked into it?

Speaker 13 (43:55):
Yeah, that might have been the one I watched that.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Because it's quite respected as far as what happens with crashes.

Speaker 13 (44:02):
Yeah, and it all started from one wheel, and well
it starting for me, no overfuel, overweight.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Was there a bit of metal on the on the runway.

Speaker 13 (44:15):
Yeah, there was, and the wheel one wheel after the
service and didn't have a bush put in. Oh yeah,
and when the wheel and then eighteen bags went on
memory after it was weighed, the captain full of the
fuel tanks up to the top, which she wasn't supposed

(44:35):
to do. And yeah, it was like a mosco.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
It always seems to be the way with disasters. It's
not one thing, but people get slack on regulations and
adhering to rules, and they get slack, and there's always
four or five things that go wrong, aren't there, and
they lead to a kind of a catastrophic failure.

Speaker 13 (44:54):
One one thing leads to another.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, I think that's why they look if you go
on the plane and there's all on the carpet or
that looks dirty, that's the way that you've got to
be worried because if they stopped doing that, if they've
stop cleaning the carpets, then there's all sorts of other
things that have fallen by the wayside, and it's probably
not safe because their tests have gone.

Speaker 13 (45:14):
Yep, the standards dropped the testers on.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
You're on to it, Roscoe. Good on your thanks for
that good evening, Trevor. It's Marcus. Welcome there. You going good, Trevor.

Speaker 22 (45:25):
Yeah, I just jump back in the ute and from
the cow shed and I just heard you're talking about Concords.
Was my favorite airplane used to fly over me when
I was in London. Used to fly over every morning
and night and it was just incredible just to just
to look up and watch it and hear that boom.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yeah, did you get close to it?

Speaker 22 (45:49):
Not as close as I'd like. I actually was tempted once.
The usually put tickets out there for New Year's Eve
and if you bought, I think it was about to
two thousand pound if you pay for a ticket. But actually,
on New Year's Eve in London, you'd have New Year
even London, and and I'd fly over to New York

(46:09):
and you'd have New Years in New York or the
other way around, which ever came first, so you'd have
three New Years.

Speaker 9 (46:14):
That's pretty clever, wasn't.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
It really clever? What happens the other way? Though you
lose everything.

Speaker 22 (46:21):
You lose too grand anyway, but at least you're say
bragging rights that you're in the Concordo.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
What were you doing in London?

Speaker 22 (46:31):
It's one of those things. I worked for the Ministry
of Defense headquarters in London at the start and then
went for the Queen Like.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Different from a pub between the Queen's Line, for true,
the Queens.

Speaker 22 (46:43):
Between Queen's Lifeguards. Yeah, they are the ones that are
in the barracks where they actually they have the Irish
black horses that go out and stand outside White Chapel.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah, what would you would you were you one of those?

Speaker 22 (46:56):
No, no, no, I was working in the barracks fixing
them like those the first fixed chippy And yeah. I
had just incredible experience over there withferent places I worked in.
In the end, I worked at a place out in
where it was called World Hall. If you look up
World Hall Airstrip. There was a farm that I was
working on over there, and they had the D Day

(47:17):
celebrations of the Air Force and the airstrip was right
on the back of the farm and they'd bring in
these s sixteens and it was just incredible to sit
on the side of the bank watching these things come in.
And on the other farm it had I don't know
if you know Rod Stuart, but just dropping names, but
it had his house on the other farm and it
was called Paras Hall, and so yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
I think Rod's had trouble with his house because his
the roads have got a lot of potholes and he
can't drive down the road to all his supercars. Has
loaded the ground supercars that he's going to move.

Speaker 22 (47:53):
Yeah, it was quite funny because you know, as a youngster,
I had my first video camera and I was driving
the tractor down down the driveway past his Paris Hall mansion.
It's if you can imagine the chateau, that's what Paris
Hall looks like. And then at the bottom there was
these bulldozers and I said, it's just joking. I was
just saying, oh, this is where Rachel's got our horses
at the bottom of this place, and the bulldozers are

(48:16):
making a horse arena. But it was actually Rodya is
actually putting in a soccer stadium down the bottom of
this place because he owned Manchester United and you weren't
actually allowed to bulldoze the ground, but he just paid
them off that's cool.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Thank you. Triva Lines three were talking the Concord. JT. Marcus,
Welcome today, Marcus.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
I see two weeks ago in the South Island and
aircraft went supersonic. It was the Dawn Aerospace Mark two Aurora.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
It took off from Glen Tanner Airfield and reached supersonic flight,
flying straight up, so there was no sonic boom herd.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Is it a plane that's developed locally.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Yep, out of the christ Ship based Dawn Aerospace.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
It's a rocket plane and there's it's unmanned, so there's
no one on board, and it's designed to go to
the edge of space and to launch satellites, small satellites.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
So it's a plane or a rocket. What's the differences?
Has it got has it got wings?

Speaker 3 (49:28):
It's got wings. That takes off like a normal aircraft
that has a rocket engine. Oh, okay, point development.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
At points vertically? Does it? And then they too blow
it up?

Speaker 3 (49:41):
No, that takes off like a normal plane. Ye yeah,
and then they can just.

Speaker 20 (49:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
So it's quite revolutionary because they recoon that it's the
first supersonic flight by civil aviation plane since the Concord.
And there was a Russian concord, but it even it
had an even more checkered in the concord. In fact,
it crashed at the nineteen seventy three Paris Air Show.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah, I think I might have, I think I might
What was it called?

Speaker 3 (50:21):
It was a twople Off TU one four four charger
and they actually stole the design by using spies off
the British and the French. And visually it looked identical
except it had cannard wings up the front, tiny wings
up by the cockpit and it only ever flew fifty

(50:44):
eight passenger flights.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
So it's almost the little wings at the front looked
like it looked like something out of Star Wars, like
jar Jar blinks or something, doesn't it? It's what were
they for and what what bit did they missed? They
had to put those on.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
I just gave them more control, especially Atlanta things flow speed,
endings and takeoff.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Were not enough control obviously, why a crash?

Speaker 3 (51:14):
They So both concords were there and the British French
one went first and it took off on the runway
and then went up very very steeply. But the Russian
ones they went second, and they tried to outperform them.
They tried to go up even steeper, but they went

(51:37):
up to the left as well, and apparently they went
really close to a Mirage fighter aircraft that was also
taking part in the display, and they tried to avoid
that and it sort of went down and too, I
think a residential area. So two concords had crashed on
the outskirts of Paris.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
How many were killed? How many on that four to
flight do you reckon? Or were some curled on the ground?

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Didn't really see? I think it was just like seven
or eight flight crew.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Okay, they called it the concord ski, which is quite fun.

Speaker 7 (52:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (52:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Have you have you heard of that chain called Reburger
DNED and chain South.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Yes, I think I've been there, But I get confused.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
By opening ash Burton last Monday and I see they've
got I see they've got fourteen I think nationwide.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Now, yeah, it's grown quite quickly. It's been kind of
and you want I think it was a sort of
a COVID pro project. And now there's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
nineteen fifty twenty of them.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
I wonder if one cole water allow one.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Oh, maybe they're just ones that directcause see there's one
in Vicago. I don't think there is. Well, maybe it's
just an online shop now.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
It must be in the process of opening.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
It's not you that's causing trouble at your library and Eshburton,
is it.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
No, I don't mean in the library.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Yeah, there sub story there that's happening. Did you read
about that?

Speaker 3 (53:10):
No, I didn't read about it. The library used to
be on my side of town, and now it's crossed
over to the other side of the railway lines. It's
too difficult to get to.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Oh that's bad because is it not in the middle
of town.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
It's still in the middle of town, but it's on
the wrong side of the tracks for me.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Can't you go to your allergic to go across the
railway tracks.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
No, not really, it's just added difficulty. But I see
the old library is being turned into a hotel.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Jupist he'd want to stay there.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Well, there's no, there's not really any accommodation. Hotel a
combination and the CBD.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Of Ashburton there's none.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Yeah, so that's why they're doing it.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Nice to talk, Jo t thank you. Oh there is
a Reburgert's in the mall. Of course in the food court.
Have you tried one, Jade. It's gone Reburger that's growing
very quickly, isn't It doesn't seem to be doing anything
remarkably different. It looks like your classic burger, doesn't it.

(54:18):
I think probably might the simple simp What the secret
to Reburger might be just the simplicity of its menu,
because these days too many burgers, too much kind of
added stuff, too much source, too drippy, too kind of collapsing.
Got quite strong opinions on burgers, Probably too strong, Marcus.

(54:43):
It's worth a mention that the Coln could flu in
an average of fifty five sixty thousand feet, as opposed
today's typical airbus, which flies at around thirty eight thousand feet.
This was great because it allowed its past you to
see the curvature of the Earth, so it stopped this
flat earth nonsense we have going on today. From Michael

(55:07):
was working in flight ops for the airline that handled
the concord of the late nineties. Sat in the left
seat in the cockpit as a pilot. It was awesome.
We landed in Gatrick, returning from Ethens working for Kontickie
and had to walk under the nose of the conquered God.
It was high but little Marcus Cinil talking about planes

(55:29):
is a great view by Veritasium about Amy Earhart and
how it was a culbination of human error, translation era
and lack of knowledge of radiophysics. Worth a watch. I
see that they've solved, Oh JD, I see they've solved
the dB Cooper parachute thing. Did you read that story?

(55:51):
It's worth a read. A guy that did the subsequent
robbery from a plane that I reckon was dB Cooper,
the famous plane hijack amandement was from the Daily Mail.
But it's worth further investigation. I did start watching about
that John Benet murders David. I didn't find that that compelling,

(56:11):
Just sad. I thought, I don't think it's any new
gotchas on that one. To save yourself three hours anyhow,
my name's Marcus. We're talking about the concord and butterfly tattoos.
We've got a show Easy to Book into the old
library that's been made into a hotel. Marcus, very good point. Yes,

(56:34):
I've never felt compelled to stay in Ashburton, but I
always like to tick off staying in different places in
the South Island and I've got a few blank spaces.
I'm not quite sure why I would go and stay
the night there, but I am up for that. Yeah,

(56:55):
old ash Burton companytown they call it, don't they? Companytown?
I think not a companytown, cooperative town? Head on midnight
twenty eight to ten and is it? We had to
get a father Christmas photo just on a cell phone.
That's what Ballentines are doing. I do sense that no
matter what Balentines do, there'll be much discussion and conflict

(57:18):
on social media about that. They just just seems to
be one of those christ stories that people want to
have a bit of a go round around, that they
want to be outraged. I think people sit at home
on their phone looking for things to be outraged about.
I won't post on anything, it's not worth it. These days,
you can't post comments on anything because you get a

(57:43):
life's too short to get yourself involved in online comments
and battles. That will be my opinion to everyone. What
is amazing when you watch and read social media Facebook
or something, a lot of people will react without even
reading properly the original post. I just see something that

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I'm in get outraged about. That this is my release.
Good evening, Mark's. They have four butterfly tattoos on my
arm and they represent transformation over a period of four years.
I went from two forty kilograms down to seventy six.
That transformed my life. Wow, two forty kilograms down to

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seventy six. Why four butterflies? Oh, because it was four years,
but whatever, that's extraordinary. Good evening, Myria's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 23 (58:46):
Oh hi Marcus. Yeah, I just wanted to give you
a ring about Concord. It Concord landed at our local
airport at Hearn in Burnemouth on the south coast the
UK in nineteen ninety six and it came to officially

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opened the main runway extension. Oh wow, yeah, the plane.
We lived on a hill overlooking with the airport in
the distance, and the plane flew in very low over
our house. It was an absolute magnificent site to see.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
And what year would have that been?

Speaker 23 (59:29):
That was nineteen ninety six, and.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
That's kind of the Concord was quite big for openings,
I suppose because everyone wanted to see it, would that
be right?

Speaker 23 (59:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (59:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (59:38):
And I think I seem to remember it used to
because we had the red arrows and it used to
be in the air display okay, but it never landed
for this time it.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Did because then it was an international airport.

Speaker 23 (59:56):
Was it. It does a lot of soth the south
coast to Malta and New yorkle and places at that
ryanair go the Ireland from there. It's not not not
a big airport.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Did you get did you get the bang?

Speaker 23 (01:00:15):
No? No, it's it's strangely enough, it was quieter and
some of the other big planes that used to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Land there mustn't have gone supersonic.

Speaker 23 (01:00:24):
Yeah, and then when it's when it took off again,
it banked up, banked in the distance, and it was
absolutely beautiful to see it banking.

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Okay, A nice stuff, Mary, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
Cheap.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
As as soon as I said super sonic, I felt
like Freddy Mercury. I think he sings that one of
his songs, doesn't he welcome people? My name is Marcus
heretl twelve oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine to
nine two to text what have you got? I'm here
for it. Let's be hearing from you as I say
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine two nine two

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to text Graham good evening.

Speaker 18 (01:01:06):
Oh yeah, good Marcus. Just something a little bit different,
probably about nineteen fifty six. I was in Hamilton at
the time and the an out road Vulcan bomber which
had gone around the globe circled over Hamilton was a
magnificent sight. There was a delta wing and when it

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went back to England and actually they missed, the pilot
missed toook a field of Coulige flower for the runway
in the west landon and all the pilots, you know,
the crew were killed. So there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
I think I remember what sort of plane was it again.

Speaker 18 (01:01:44):
Avro avy ro O vulcan bomber. It was a delta wing,
but delta wing bomber, and there would have been in
New Zealand nineteen fifty and fifty six or something like that.

Speaker 19 (01:01:57):
Maybe, Yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
I remember talking about that on a So thank you
for coming through about that, Graham. We diver aviation is
always good for us. But thank you. Jon AND's Maes.

Speaker 13 (01:02:06):
Good evening, Hi, Marcus.

Speaker 20 (01:02:09):
That plane that you've just mentioned, or your call is
just mentioned, I think it was earlier than fifty six.
I think it was about fifty five. I can remember
standing out on the basketball courts as we called them
in those days at the Fairview School, just six miles

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south of timrou We were all allowed to leok class
and watch this plane. It was a jet plane and
that was the novelty to fly over. And I do
remember when it returned to London it crashed on landing.
But I wasn't actually ringing about that, Marcus. I was

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wringing about Ashburton, and just happened. At some nearly sixty
years ago. I had the first night of my honeymoon,
the only honeymoon I've ever had, in the Somerset Hotel
on the main street of Ashburton. And it was a

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fairly uneventful night because I was very tired. But earlier
in the morning, with a bit more energy, I built
up an appetite and I went through the to the
pantry where the staff had laid out all the cups
and sauces with the wine biscuit on the saucer to

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take round all the rooms for the early morning cup
of tea. So I lecked all the biscuits off every
saucer and went back and rejuvenated.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
It's a good story. What year was there was it.

Speaker 20 (01:03:58):
That was in nineteen sixty six.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
And why was esh Burton chosen for your money, hon honeymoon?

Speaker 20 (01:04:06):
Well, I didn't want any distractions.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Okay, Well it's quite the love story, this isn't it.

Speaker 20 (01:04:13):
And I'm still with the same darling woman.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Wow, have you been back to Ashburton?

Speaker 20 (01:04:21):
I've driven through several times, having had family and Timorro
and family in Christchurch, and so Ashburton was just somewhere
to stop and have a pee.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
And where was the place you had the honeymoon? What
was it called?

Speaker 20 (01:04:35):
The Somerset was on the main street. Whether it's still there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
No, there is a grocer called the Somerset Groser. That's
a newish looking building.

Speaker 20 (01:04:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Also did you drive did you drive there?

Speaker 20 (01:04:55):
Yes? Both there aboard the old man's holding the station wagon.
And but I had also come through Ashburton in my
boarding school days in Timorro and there was always ten
minutes refreshments at Ashburton on the train back coming back

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to christ Church. And we had a bit of a
game on the train coming back. We would line up
all the railway cups in the landing between the two
carriages and hit them with hockey sticks out into the
Rakaia River. It was very juvenile, but a hell of

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a lot of fun did Were.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
There good fire escapes at the Somerset Hotel when you're
in it?

Speaker 20 (01:05:47):
Probably were?

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
No, they weren't. That's why they didn't. That that's why
they demolished it because it was unsafe. Was not enough
fire escapes?

Speaker 20 (01:05:56):
Oh right, two thousands. It was a very interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
You know, you're overstate your claim. You so obviously you're romantic, John,
Thank you, goodness, good evening, Sky at s Marcus welcome.

Speaker 24 (01:06:11):
Hi MICUs, How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Thank you, Sky.

Speaker 24 (01:06:15):
I'm just calling about Reburger. Who'd you're talking about Reburger?

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Yes?

Speaker 24 (01:06:19):
And I thought what they've done was really clever. Actually,
they on TikTok there was a smile thing going on
about raising canes. It's in America and people were eating
raisin canes and everyone was viewing it saying they wanted
it in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
I feel like, I feel like I've got to ask
you what that is.

Speaker 24 (01:06:44):
It's a fast food chain.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Okay, what's it called raising canes? Okay? Copy that yep?

Speaker 18 (01:06:53):
Yes.

Speaker 24 (01:06:53):
Anyways, and people were doing videos eating it and it
was getting millions and millions of views and the owner
of Raising Caine, I mean of Reburger must have seen
it and has done it.

Speaker 25 (01:07:06):
It's dupe of it.

Speaker 24 (01:07:08):
And it's just gone insane and everyone in New Zealand
was making videos of it and it's got more than
two million views on TikTok actually, and that's hence why
they're getting lots of new Yeah, they've utilized it, okay, So.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
Was quite interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Part of Reburger's success, right is they're on TikTok. Is
that right? Well?

Speaker 24 (01:07:30):
Yeah, I think so. Just lots of young people wanting
to try something from America and then they've seen that
and said I will try make it. And they tried
to make the sauce and the check and penders and
the meal and yeah, people have bought into it and
loved it, and it's done really well on TikTok as well,
making lots of people try it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
And I think Reburger started as a food truck in
the student area, but now the right of the country.
This is going to sound like the world's nephus question Sky, how.

Speaker 24 (01:07:57):
Old are you twenty one?

Speaker 9 (01:08:00):
Hence nervous.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Yeah, I can hear I can hear that, and I
can I hear that and I embrace that. This guy
this and I hate to focus my question at you,
but the kids didn't know this YouTube and florencea in town.
Have you heard of him?

Speaker 24 (01:08:14):
Who was he?

Speaker 26 (01:08:14):
Sorry?

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
This YouTube guy that I see slow uthing.

Speaker 27 (01:08:18):
I don't know what he's just bought.

Speaker 24 (01:08:21):
He's just bought a house in Queenstown.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
What's his name? I show Speed or something.

Speaker 24 (01:08:25):
Yes, that's the one. Is he I don't know what's
exact name, but I've just been seeing him on TikTok.
Actually I'm constantly on TikTok embarrassingly enough. And he's just
bought as his first home and he chose to buy
it in Queenstown. And he's been hanging out with Jimmy Jackson.
I don't know if you know Jimmy Jackson. He's quite
a big YouTuber here, has been for quite some time

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and they've been filming videos of him trying foods and
stuff in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Is he quite compelling? I see speed? Or I mean
he just he doesn't. He seems a bit look at me,
look at me? What's he like?

Speaker 24 (01:09:00):
Well, he's I think he's attracts about the age of
thirteen year olds to be fair and makes millions of it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
It is he humorous? Is he humorous and irreverent?

Speaker 24 (01:09:14):
I wouldn't say humorous, but he's or irreverent. But he
knows what he's doing. I guess he knows what he's
attracting and how to make money, which can't blame him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Have you tried a Reburger?

Speaker 24 (01:09:27):
I have tried the Reburger drop of raising canes with
the sauce and everything, and it was well overpriced.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
But nice to hear from your guy. I'll stick to
Sonya's soup. But the records are at the where is
it the Halls one Morell? I forgot where it was
Halls will More. On a Thursday, speaking of influencers, talking
to the kids in the cars who came into town
for karate, they were talking about what the kids in
Bluff want to do. They want to be YouTube influencers,

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professional rugby league players, and fishermen, which is good because
I'm sure they can combine all three. I don't really
know how to talk about me social media influences or
YouTube influences, but yes, it feels at the top of
the chain. Oh yes, I've been down the rabbit hole.

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I've googled raising Canes New Zealand, and there's little tiktoks
about the Reburger trying to a raising canes type thing.
Basically just makes my heart bleeding. Young people you want
to be an influencer and eating sort of fatty American
food and too saucy. Anyway, so many videos of people

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eating handkets. Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 28 (01:10:44):
Hi, Marcus, I like to shear a little story about
the concord. You're talking about the concord this evening. Yes,
do you remember it would have been back in the
early nineties that the Concord came out from the UK
and landed and Christ Do you remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
I do know it's been to christ Church once or twice,
aware of that, but I don't think I was aware
of that at the time.

Speaker 28 (01:11:09):
But yes, anyway, at the time, I was working for
Mount Cook Airlines down here in Queenston, and I live
in Queenstown, And anyway, the concord had around ninety odd
people to come down to Queenstown. So at landed in
christ these very affluent people from around the world came

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here on a tour and our company that I worked for,
Mount Cook Airlines, they were flying these people to Milford Sound.
So anyway, it turned out to be a beautiful day.
And at the time I owned which I still do
it sess in the Way eighty five, which the company
used to hire off me and so we used to
fly it as well. As part of my job. There

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was flying and also aircraft engineers, so the crew of
the Concord were allocated to fly with me. So I
had the captain of the concord pilot and the hostings.
There was three nice English hosties.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Yeah, that's a good story.

Speaker 28 (01:12:14):
Yeah. So anyway, we fly off to Milford on this
beautiful day and we went all around the field and landed
there and anyway, we did a boat cruise what you
normally do, and we came back and anyway, they had
such a marvelous time. The captain turned around to me
and said would you like to come for riding the
concord And I was like, wow, riding the concord, Yeah,

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that would be absolutely amazing. So he said he said, well,
we're going back to christ Church tomorrow and we fly
out to Sydney tomorrow night, so there's one spear of seat.
I'll just check that out and make sure it's all
all kosher.

Speaker 7 (01:12:49):
So thought wow.

Speaker 28 (01:12:51):
So I said, oh, look I have to get to
christ Church and then I've got to get back from Sydney.
And it was all sort of happening, and I said,
you know, that's a fantastic off and I thought about it.
You know, I never took it up, and I've always
kicked myself to this day because it did take it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
It's crazy.

Speaker 28 (01:13:11):
The thing happened was that concord when it was city
in christ Church, a big storm came through, a big
suddenly bluster came through and it damaged the rudder on
the concord and it flew out of christ Church that
day and halfway across the Tasman the top section of
its rudder flew to pieces. Unbeknown to the crew, it

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landed at Sydney with half the rudder missing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Would that be a concern, No, But would it affect
the landing much?

Speaker 28 (01:13:44):
No, it wouldn't affect the landing so much. But the
aircraft was grounded there in Sydney for quite a time
before the crew could get out and repair. We do
the repair work from England.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
And what were they like as passengers flying to Milford?
Were they interested? Engaged relaxed. I kind of kind of
imagine what that must be like to be. Could I
presume they're all I presume they all started in planes
like that, had they?

Speaker 28 (01:14:10):
Yeah? Well, yes, the crew were there. They are very
interesting though, that are quite quite naked. They are quite
intrigued about how we flew around the mountains in the
small air of pre Yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
It's a pretty dhumatic flight. This is from Queenstown straight
up and down in Milford.

Speaker 28 (01:14:24):
Right, yeah, right, yes, well, oh you should have quite
an experience.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
You should have taken it up, because you'll never get
that chance again.

Speaker 28 (01:14:31):
Hank never never. I've always kicked myself to this day
that I never never did it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Gridding's welcome, Headed twelve. We're talking the Concord stop flying
twenty one years ago today, of course, had the exit
in France because the loose bit of metal on the
runway not their fault, but things had gone wrong with them.
Too much fuel, too much luggage, systems not ahead to
standard procedure. Scott Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 9 (01:14:56):
Even Marcus.

Speaker 26 (01:14:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:14:57):
I was lucky enough to work on the heath Row
Terminal five project two thousand and two, two thousand and.

Speaker 18 (01:15:04):
Three and.

Speaker 25 (01:15:07):
One job we were digging some lagoons about two k's
from the end of the runway, and I was looking
right down the runway and six pm every night you
could stake your watch by it. Concordn't used to queue,
she had right of way, and she would come out
of the lounge and then bangs, she'd come over the
top of us. And I used to get out the

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digger every night just to see it come over and
just just to hear it, because the noise was it
was just it was just insane. And then about twenty
seconds later you'd get the draft and it was like
barbecue light of fluid a smell. And in the winter
when she used to take off, the afterburners were blue

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coming out of the back of the engines. And yeah,
she was. She was some machine and she was very
loud taking off.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Why did she get priority, Well.

Speaker 25 (01:16:06):
You can imagine Heathrow there was there was just planes
waiting all Yeah, there was just a line of planes
all day. But Concord had priority. So once everyone was on,
she got to the end of the runway and yeah,
she had priority over every other plane was just that
wasted and get it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
That was a flight to New York was it.

Speaker 25 (01:16:28):
That was New York. You could set you could set
your watch by that planes six game overy night. She
was she was away.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
And tell me, Scott, what did you say you were
working on the heath Throw five project?

Speaker 25 (01:16:40):
What was that? I was working on the new Heathrow
Terminal five. Basically we were basically we had to we
had to dig down to the very bottom tube station anything.
We dug a massive hole and then the infrastructure has
got to come up from that.

Speaker 7 (01:17:01):
Ah.

Speaker 25 (01:17:02):
So yeah, we basical got to dig a big hole.
We were digging the big water run off arms at
the end of the runway. And then two thousand and
three is when they parked concord up and the whole
job stopped, and we there was like three thousand workers
and we all went up onto the waist pile the
whole job, and we watched three of them come in,

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one after another, and they were the last three points
to come in.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Wow, the last three concord.

Speaker 25 (01:17:31):
I actually I actually watched one of the last, well,
the last three concords landing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
And then were they and then where they shipped off
to aviation museums.

Speaker 25 (01:17:42):
Well, it's funny you say that, because about a few
days later, I was up on top of the pie.
I was up on top of the big dirt pile
at the end of the runway, and I was loading
the dump trucks and I've seen Concord. I've seen a
Concord come out, and I thought was a goat on here?
And he lined up and off he went, and he

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went straight up. I could tell he was having a
bit of on. He went straight up and he banked
and he was just giving it some you know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
Uh.

Speaker 25 (01:18:13):
And then I took someone later in the day and
I said, where was that, What was Concord doing? He
said that Concord is going to Manchester Airport. That's its
last ever flight. Well, yeah, it could have had passengers,
who knows what. I could tell the old mate was
having one last, one, last set of fun with me,
you know. Brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Nice to hear from the scott Thank you very much
for that, David to Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 8 (01:18:41):
I was lucky enough for my friend Victim the BA
office to overlook Concord when they were packed up and
when the last four flew in. Previous to that, they
all be a staff went in to a draw for
four tickets and he won four tickets, and he invited
me to go. So we got to go into the
hangar and go inside number one and number two concord

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and basically look and we sat in the cockpit. The
lady disappeared, so we jumped in and got a photo
and met the head engineer and I think his name
was Dave Love, I remember, And that was, you know,
the day after they before of them ended it. That

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was the last the actual permanent flying.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Did they look did they look tired?

Speaker 8 (01:19:34):
No, the most beautiful plane on the outside, but inside
it was like a blue vinyl and yeah, but it's still
beautiful on the outside, just absolutely spectacular.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
And quite claustrophobic inside. No, I didn't think so okay
because people have liken it to like a bus.

Speaker 8 (01:19:58):
Now London Bluss is smaller.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
It was just the four seats, I guess, is what
I'm saying.

Speaker 13 (01:20:04):
No, that's all.

Speaker 8 (01:20:05):
I think they were quite spacious on the on over
twenty stone and I think they were quite a decent size,
you know, but that was lucky to get one of
the tickets.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Generous, unbelievable, Dave. Nice to hear from you, Marcus. The
strip of metal, the extant concord Ranover was in fact
from a DC ten content Airlines, so the DC ten
not only was a death trap itself, but ruined Concord's
safety record as well. Twenty were built, seven for BA

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seven for Air France. The rest were pre production test frames,
most in museums now. Marcus I visited to Conquered two
weeks ago, one in Bristol and one at Brooklyn's Museum
in Surrey. Bucket lists to visit them all. Roughly halfway
through them workers aircrew for Air New Zealand's in the blood?

(01:21:00):
Are they? Questioned you text? Are they all in the
UK and France? Shout out to Marcus from Jayden who Marcus,
you can visit and go through the Concord at the
Aerospace Museum at the old Fulton Airport at Bristol. It

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landed there twenty one years ago today. That's from Tony
one of that's ol Tony, Marcus to mix Ashburton accommodation
with aviation. Ashburton has a thriving light sports and micro
class of aircraft, low landing fees and away from controlled airspace.

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Marcus just tuned in will you be revisiting the toasted Sandwich?
Chat from Friday night. It's changed my life. Marcus I
had raising Canes and Denver. It's a fast food. It
was okay, but nothing to call home about. The tenders
weren't anything speed sure, but the saucers were good. It

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may have been mentioned, but Concord did land it Herewood
and christ Church's not sure of the year. Marcus I
went inside a Concord at the news. Even Paris was
surprised at how tiny they are. We had to crouch
over to walk down the aisle and rows of only
two seats either side. Do we think Dave hadn't gone in?

(01:22:33):
It quite spacious in his twenty stone. Did you get
your lawns done? Yesterday was a bit windy down there. Yes,
the lawns are done immaculately, and I've got a new
weed eater with a blade. It's not that's a scrub bar. Yes,

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I'm tooled up at them. My father brought home from
his overseas trip one day the menu from the Concord
trip he made from London to New York. He sat
next to Paul McCartney, who he chatted to, who signed
the menu for me. The Concord seats were quite small
and free like sitting in Economy. Wish I could find

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that menu now. Marcus was in London on my OI
in the late eighties. Yes, everyday, same time, Boom over
London as it's broke the sound barrier, Marcus. There is
a concord at the End Tripping Museum in New York.
You can go into. They also have a space shuttle them. Monique,

(01:23:43):
would I go to an aviation museum? I think it's
heartbreaking with planes that don't fly, but I guess it's
just unreasonably expensive to keep them flying. I always thought
about that. It's Motet, which became a bit of a
aircraft graveyard. But yeah, I've always sid I always had

(01:24:10):
a bad experience at Motet. I really need to exercise that,
the exercise that whatever, whatever the word is, I need
to face my demons with Motet. I had some very
bad experiences there, let's just put it that way. M hm,

(01:24:31):
very bad. It's the concord and butterfly tattoos. What do
they symbolize? I've got no idea, but that was the

(01:24:52):
interesting topic. And Balantine's and christ Dutch are using a
digital camera for their father Christmas photos, which is called
much caused much discussion online, which just goes to show
you can't win sometimes. And the Goldie painting has gone
for a record. Was painted quite recently as far as

(01:25:19):
goldies go. It was painted I think in nineteen thirty seven,
and I think you'll probably remember the image. It's been
much publicized before the auction. We painted nineteen thirty eight

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Mali chief or Tonga with the Morchael and with a
large greenstone tiki. And also too, it's got beautiful carved
a beautiful carved paneled a meeting house beside him, and
he's wearing the coat woven coats quite a lot to

(01:26:06):
it and is caring, also holding a m carved stick.
So yeah, it's pretty beautiful. Bidding began at two millions
going to stay in the country apparently. Ellie Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 21 (01:26:20):
Hi Marcus, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Thank you Ellie good.

Speaker 21 (01:26:24):
I worked for a New Zealand in christ Church in
the nineteen nineties and I was lucky enough to go
on the concord.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Wow, I know, tell me all about.

Speaker 27 (01:26:36):
It a little.

Speaker 21 (01:26:37):
It was a little underwhelming. It was very small inside,
two seats on both sides, the windows were tiny, but
it had that air of opulence I must have met.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Yeah, did you go up on it or just in
it when it was grounded?

Speaker 21 (01:26:54):
Just and when it was grounded?

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
Okay, it must have been a big deal when it
came to christ Church because everyone seems to remember it.

Speaker 27 (01:27:00):
It was a big deal.

Speaker 21 (01:27:01):
It was a big deal and we were really fortunate
to go on it. It was a huge privilege. And
I remember I grew up in the UK and I
remember flying over London and I always remember my dad saying,
you know that that's con call going over and it
was so loud, you know, like boom loud.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
And it seems to be one of the great achievements
of British engineering. I mean they seemed always to be
incredibly proud of it. So it was a great deal,
wasn't it.

Speaker 23 (01:27:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:27:31):
I think it was, Yeah, it was.

Speaker 23 (01:27:34):
It was.

Speaker 21 (01:27:34):
It was a great, great time for aviation.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
And can you clarify to me did it come more
than once to christ J I don't know.

Speaker 21 (01:27:43):
I worked for in New Zealand And about nineteen ninety
two to about ninety six at that time, and I
only remember it coming once, but I could be wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Love you to talk any Thanks so much. Twenty four
past In all about the Concord and butterfly tattoos. Is
also a Russian Soviet era equivalent called the Tupoulov one
four four. Yes, we have talked about that. The Konkordski,
otherwise known as Marcus sailing on with integrity and the

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Whitbread around the World Race eighty nine to ninety hood
Concit Concord, sonic boom on our last league from Fort
Lord and out to Southampton at the same time each day,
Chairs Paul, Wow, I hear from you, Paul, and nice
for that message at the back too. I'll tell him
about that. Yeah, good stuff, Marcus. The quality of the

(01:28:47):
aviational haul at Motet at the end of Motions Road
by the Zoo has been lifted in recent years. We've
attended to movie and talk nights there, with the dam
Buster's Lancaster raid on the Saup Night recently being top class.
Our fathers were involved in the war effort, one spending
time in a German prison of war camp. We cannot
speak highly enough of motat regards Owen. Thank you for that, Owen. Marcus.

(01:29:12):
I'm sure that the people say they heard the sonic
boom from Concord each day with London. I'm mistaken. Was
re noisy both arriving and leaving, but was never super
sonic over London. My parents flew from New York to
visit me in London on in eighty seven. Cheers looks yeah,
I think it goes super sonic, and ess it was
over the sea. Marcus, I saw what I think was
in seventy eight and nineteen seventy eight. I saw what

(01:29:33):
I think was one of the refairst concords at Charles
de gaul Airport, Paris. One side was in air Frant's colors,
the other side in British Airways colors. Oh, this is interesting.
Thank you for coming through so quickly. With that. Engines
decommissioned and drained, some removed, some scrapped, hydraulic systems bled

(01:29:57):
and emptied. Marcus Phil Collins flew on the Concord from
Wembley to Philadelphia for the Live Aid concert. Recommend the
Brooklyn's Museum, Amazing Champagne Tour of Concord, Meet and greet
with ex pilots and crew in a chance to fly
the Concord simulator of the Next Captain, Brilliant Experience Museum

(01:30:20):
and Surrey Concord there is gbb DG a test frame.
The concord came to christ literally three to four times, Bruce.
Christ Church is extremely proud of its concord reputation, isn't it.
You always hear people say that, Wow, that amazing. Go

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christ Church, get in touch. My name is Marcus, Welcome.
What do you got headled twelve. It's all about the
concord and any other breaking news that we've got but
evening markets.

Speaker 11 (01:30:57):
Marcus welcome, Yeah, Hi, Marcus, just bring about christ Church.
Wang was right before. I remember seeing Concord and christ
at least three times, and I saw it land once
and take off each of the three times, and it
definitely was very noisy. It was a bit equivalent to

(01:31:18):
about the four Australian Air Force F one eleven's taking off,
which were very very noisy than themselves. One of the
interesting things about the ground when they did the pushback
from the gate, the connection to the toad was a
special drawbar that was unique to the concord. So when

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they did the pushback, before they did the engine startup,
a crew member would blow a rope from the cabin
entrance and they'd tie the drawbar onto the rope and
they'd pull it back up into the cabin for when
they next came to the next airport.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
That's interesting.

Speaker 11 (01:32:06):
Yeah, it was quite quite very funny to watch, just
like dropping a rope down and pulling it up back
into the canon. So yeah, And the last thing I
was going to say is there's actually a concord on
permanent display at teeth Row outside. You can see it
on Google Maps. It's just adjacent to the threshold for

(01:32:29):
runway twenty seven left.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
I'll look now, so where is it?

Speaker 11 (01:32:37):
Just just adjacent to the threshold for runway twenty seven left.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
You're not numbered on the map I'm looking at.

Speaker 5 (01:32:47):
Oh, okay, it's the top or the bottom.

Speaker 11 (01:32:51):
It's on the southern side.

Speaker 2 (01:32:53):
Okay, on the terminal side.

Speaker 11 (01:32:58):
It's just by the aprons of the planes leave the
leave the gates. Oh yeah, and it's actually a number
G B O A B was the concord that's stored there.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Are you a bit of a concord obsessive?

Speaker 11 (01:33:17):
I'm not obsessive, but I think it's the greatest passenger
plane ever built.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
But useless, say, I mean, not financially sustainable. No one
bought any and no demand for it.

Speaker 11 (01:33:34):
Well there was, but it was so expensive to run
that it couldn't be like on people on their normal
holiday couldn't afford to use it. It was only really
people on running on businesses expenses.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
Oh, I found it google. Heathrow concord looks quite striking
on Google Maps.

Speaker 11 (01:33:53):
Yes, yes, it's actually just out of their elements. And
apparently every year or so they have a big maintenance
day on it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
And excuse my ignorance, because I just thought of this
is the what is the external covering? Is it aluminum
or is it? What is it?

Speaker 9 (01:34:16):
This?

Speaker 11 (01:34:17):
There will be some, it will be alloy. I couldn't
guarantee it's all.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
It's not carbon. It's not at the carbon fiber stage.

Speaker 11 (01:34:24):
Does it know there's no carbon in there? I know
that when it was standing still and when it was
flying at MAC two, the difference at length was about
nine inches.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
That's right, there's an expansion gap, and it too wasn't there.

Speaker 11 (01:34:37):
It stretched about nine inches through the through the friction.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
I reckon if you landed a Heathrow and wanted to
walk to the concord, it would be impossible.

Speaker 11 (01:34:51):
Why do you say that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
Well, because there's roads and you know what airports are
like there's always a NOZ. You mean to visit the Yes.

Speaker 11 (01:35:00):
Yes, yes, I don't know. I don't know what they
range with are They probably have a shuttle service.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
You need to need to get on a deep Reddit
thread to work out how to do that. So there'd
be a way to do it. But you wouldn't want
to just think, let's go look at the because it
could take you hours. I know what it's like walking
around the airports. You can spend hours looking for it.
There's a train station at hat and Cross. You get
on the tube, you get a train to hat and
Cross and then you'd walk across that car park.

Speaker 11 (01:35:26):
Yes. Have you ever been to the Ashburton Airport Museum. No,
they've got a Harry Hawk there.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
Is it a well attended and something that you can
go to any time?

Speaker 11 (01:35:46):
Yes, it's only I think it's about ten or fifteen
dollars entry and it's easy to find. It'll be on
you'd be able to find her on Google easy enough.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
It looks beautifuliful look at beautiful looking planes.

Speaker 11 (01:36:00):
Yes, I have got no idea how it ended up there,
but I'm sure there's a bit of a story behind it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
Okay, w'ere did New Zealand have those planes? No? No, no, no, okay,
it's a nice looking museum. There's a nice oh yeah,
look at that. Wow. Okay, there's good videos that online
till if you want to go look at it.

Speaker 5 (01:36:25):
Are you are you?

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
Are you an Eshburton?

Speaker 11 (01:36:28):
No, I'm in christ So I've been to the Eshburton Museum.

Speaker 5 (01:36:31):
There.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
Okay, good intel, thank you. It's all about the concord.
You go with your strong suits, titanium alloy Marcus. I
worked in the music industry in the late eighties and
was privileged to travel first class in my job. I
paid myself the difference and upgraded myself for the concord,
which was unforgettable experience New York to London. But crap

(01:36:55):
myself the whole way list I get sprung. So next
to some uk UIs executive Jeff, I always tell the
boring story of a made of mine. I worked with
his and boss and radio straight shooter, and he worked
in London as a courier, like a motorbike courier, and
he occasionally would get to fly to New York on

(01:37:16):
the concord carrying a dossier case. What's those things called
a case of documents, so that would be the cheapest
way to get that urgent documents. They would put him
on the concord to fly across there to deliver though
I'm not quite sure what the price of seeing those
documents were, but in a tche case, kind of amazing

(01:37:41):
to think that. Well, I guess you know, before before
before fix is probably before emails, when stuff had to
get somewhere very quickly, they would send it on the concord,
and the cheapest way was to send a passenger with
all those goods on them.

Speaker 5 (01:37:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
I always thought that was extrame. Yeah, it was true.
Good evening, Matt, ats Marcus, welcome, Hey, how are you good?

Speaker 14 (01:38:02):
Matt?

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
Thank you?

Speaker 9 (01:38:04):
So you you briefly touched on the urgent freight that
used to get a personal ride over to New York
or vice versa to England. Yes, so, my mum and
dad used to work for DHL and they frequently did
those trips. So whoever was organizing it at the time

(01:38:27):
from England just approached a few people and said, hey,
you got some time to go to New York this
evening or this morning or whatever it was, And if
they had nothing important on they could jump on the
concorde and shoot over to New York and catch trip
back once they dropped their car off.

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
It seems amazing. I remember being about the time. But
do you know how much how many would they would
there be things and envelopes that they would be taking.

Speaker 9 (01:38:58):
Yeah, it was mainly just like a briefcase with staff
or legal content things. Yeah, it wasn't wasn't huge stuff.
I mean, I guess they probably could have got some
checked baggage, but I haven't lived quite much about it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
And they would just hand it to a courier when
they got to New York.

Speaker 9 (01:39:21):
Is that what you were? There was someone, yeah, someone
waiting for them. Yeah. My dad used to make the
most of the free from pain on the trips of
the air and back, and I think that there was
one time where he got a little bit too drunk
and that was the last.

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
Time that when the primary thing is not to lose
the briefcase.

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:39:49):
Yeah, it wouldn't be a good look.

Speaker 28 (01:39:50):
So did they come back, that's a true thing.

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
Did they get another test case to come back with
or did they come back on a slow plane.

Speaker 9 (01:40:00):
No, they came back on the concorde as well. I don't.
I don't know if they always had something to bring back.

Speaker 5 (01:40:08):
I guess.

Speaker 9 (01:40:09):
I guess if it could be organized, and they.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
Probably came back. They didn't stay the night. They probably
came back on the same plane, did they.

Speaker 9 (01:40:18):
I think mum had said she had stayed there a
few times and caught the next one back. I don't
know what the turnaround time was for, like refueling and
that side of things, but generally probably the same day,
I guess, because what was it only took a few hours,
four hours or.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
Two hours, fifty two minutes and fifty nine seconds. It's unbelievable,
it's crazy. Just under three hours, that's unbelievable.

Speaker 9 (01:40:48):
What a time to be alive. It's a shame that
they're not very revitalizing those old things.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
It does make you wonder how much it was to
send a letter, doesn't it? Or seen an urgent legal
document via DHL Caurier in those days. I mean, must
have been like a couple of hundred dollars if they've
you know, there's forty or fifty of them all in there.

Speaker 9 (01:41:10):
Yeah, I guess it was a transport for the for
the other half, the ultra wealthy, who needs something.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
I'm pleased to hit. I'm pleased to and both your
dad and your mum did Dad.

Speaker 9 (01:41:24):
Yeah, they did, They actually met over there under that's
why I'm around.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
Well, I wonder because I want you want the HL,
just the HL. Nice, dear, thank you for that, Matt brilliant. Hello, Margaret, welcome.

Speaker 28 (01:41:38):
Hello.

Speaker 29 (01:41:38):
I thought I would shone in because I've actually had
a ride in the Concord.

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
Lucky old you tell me all about that.

Speaker 18 (01:41:45):
I will too.

Speaker 29 (01:41:46):
The first night we went down to get on the
Concord and we lined up, We're all excited and dressed up,
ready to go, and the guy looked Patter and said,
you don't have a visa, a valid visa to get
into America. What do we do now? We spent all
our English money and we were heading into a mirrorge
to come back home. So anyway, they were absolutely wonderful.

(01:42:08):
They put us up in the hotel for the night
and showed us how to get to the American embassy.
But they'd been and up rising at the embassy and
it was being guarded by men with AK forty seven,
so that was a bit confronting to have to go
and handing our passports for the day. But anyway, we
went back the next night and the visas were there

(01:42:29):
and we flew to New York and they said, do
you want a taxi into the center of New York
And we said no, no, no, we'll be fine. We'll
ride the bus. So we got on the bus and
ended up at the forty second Street bus station, which
was again confronting for a south winder and we found
it afterwards that the actual taxi or the ride into

(01:42:53):
New York is via helicopter. Didn't know about that, so
we missed out on that. But anyway, on the flight,
they gave us this box of chocolates and it was
about three chocolates and they were very fancy. They're in
a gold box, so I thought, oh, take them home
and impress everybody with those. So I put them in
the middle of my suitcase and we when we finished

(01:43:17):
in America, we went to Fiji, went out to an
island for a week, and we left the case in
the hotel in Figi. So when we flew into Auckland,
you wouldn't believe, but ants kept coming out between the
zips and my suitcase. So of course I was called
over to customs and they opened it up, and would
you believe the ants must have got in in FIGI

(01:43:39):
and they'd eaten all my Concord chocolates and I had
all these ants trooping out of my suitcase.

Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
Wow, that was the Concord And what was the flight
scene for? I can't believe it was under three A
Was it unbelievably quick?

Speaker 11 (01:43:55):
Isn't it?

Speaker 29 (01:43:56):
It was right about it being stretched and they had
a big screen up and they said that they would
have blown out all the windows over England if they
had opened up the motors. So they did open up
the motors once they got out to sea, and then
it kept coming up on the screen till it got
to mac Too, and I thought, I think I want
out of here. I think you better shut it off.

(01:44:16):
I didn't want to look at the street again. So
we actually got to mac Too and I presume that
was Sonic boom.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
What was the food line?

Speaker 29 (01:44:24):
And it was very hot, very narrow, everything is gray leather.
I'm sitting here actually with a notebook, a Concord notebook,
and I see we must have been there in nineteen
eighty eight and summer schedule, it says, And it's got
a little pencil which I've just found after all these years,
lead's brand new and it's tucked into the end of it.

(01:44:45):
So it shows you how enthusiastic I was about the notebook.
It's still all those years later.

Speaker 2 (01:44:51):
And was the food was it like because sometimes it
looked like they've got a kick carving an English roast
or something. Was it like that the same?

Speaker 29 (01:44:57):
Yes, then it's all silver, the whole lot, you know,
all the doings, and they were at your elbow the
whole time, was drinking and you could have been drunk
of a skank based you know, ten minutes out because
they just stood be with bottles of champagne.

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
How many aircrew Kevin crew.

Speaker 29 (01:45:15):
I don't really remember. It's a long time ago, but
I remember too. But there was no room for any
extra in the aisle, so it was pretty thin because
it was a very narrow aisle and there was only
room for one person to come and go. So I
guess it was the food and then the booze, and
you know, they rotated it like that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
It's an amazing story.

Speaker 29 (01:45:37):
I remember it being very hot, That's what I remember,
of course, having been turned down the night before and
things that sort of added to the chitment of the
whole thing. I suppose it gave us an extra day
to think about.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
It must have made it. All the other flights you
took since very slow by comparison, I mean, be amazing
to go on less than three out because I must
be Is it twelve hours normally? How did you you
went the other way?

Speaker 23 (01:45:59):
Did you to eight?

Speaker 29 (01:46:01):
I think, isn't it six to eight?

Speaker 5 (01:46:02):
Mum?

Speaker 29 (01:46:04):
I know that it was extreet. Was probably less than half.
But also one time we flew into Sydney. This was
before that, and we couldn't believe. We pulled into Sydney
and the concord had just come in, And of course
it was hugely excitening because the whole world knew about
the concord and we were texting along as the concord
was being put into the hangar. So we thought on

(01:46:26):
the very first flight to Sydney, never dreaming that we
would end up on it ourselves. I was trying to think.
I think it was about five We booked the tickets
in Australia, so our daughter was living in Australia at
the time, and I think it was about five thousand
dollars Australian to go on the Concord at that time

(01:46:46):
from London to New York.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
Yeah, okay, so and yeah and you go times it
by three foot these days too, So that was pricey.

Speaker 29 (01:46:55):
It was, yes, but I don't even know why we
felt we needed to go on the things.

Speaker 26 (01:47:00):
I hate to find.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
Love you, Margaret, thanks very much. That's a good story.

Speaker 5 (01:47:06):
I like all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
I would like the helicopter to get into New York. Also,
we like Trump Diana's Marcus good evening.

Speaker 29 (01:47:14):
Yeah, hi Marcus. I've taken photographs of Concord at crime
Church Airport, he throw and New York. And I've also
thrown from LaGuardia Airport to New York by helicopter. I
was on a British Airways ticket then. But also I
was on the Quy two coming into New York and

(01:47:35):
the Concord was taking off from New York, and all
of a sudden I was out on the deck talking
to one of the crew. All of a sudden you
heard the film might you bang through the sound barrier.
And I've never seen so many people hit the deck
as what happened on that day when Concord flew over.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
So that's a bit you've got photo you.

Speaker 29 (01:47:58):
Well, no, not on board the QWEY two when there.
But I have got some good photos of concord And
I also have been the museum in the UK which
had a concord there and you could you know, walk
through it and they had two rows of seats. I
decided it wasn't anything flesh inside really.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
Yes, but you haven't flown on it.

Speaker 29 (01:48:18):
No, No, But at the time, at the time when
I was in the UK, they were offering flights sightseeing
flights for one hundred bucks, you know, for a short
time around London. I should have done it.

Speaker 9 (01:48:30):
Then.

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
It seems quite reasonable in context, doesn't it.

Speaker 29 (01:48:33):
Yeah, but it was so funny, you know when all
of a sudden you heard the sort of mighty bang
and you know people just hit the decks.

Speaker 2 (01:48:42):
Well, did you see it in christ Itch at all? Also?

Speaker 13 (01:48:46):
Yees?

Speaker 29 (01:48:47):
So I went out to christ Rich Airport and took
a photograph of it landed there and flying over. But
I've got some really good shots from Heathrow Airport and
New York.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
So you're quite the plane buffer, are you, And you're
quite the photographer.

Speaker 29 (01:49:02):
Well, take a few photos of things who are taking
photos of?

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
Yeah? You got all your photos and albums. Do you
look after them?

Speaker 3 (01:49:08):
Oh?

Speaker 29 (01:49:08):
Yes, I've got all the digital ones, all index So
if someone wants, you know, photos of cruisers and that,
well you know, I've got plenty and plenty in the
albums and that are yet all named and dated. Wow,
it's like stamp collection. If you don't keep on top
of it all the time, will take two years to do.

(01:49:29):
But no, I have you know who you wanted photos
of somewhere and I had them? Well, I could just
send them, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
You click stamps.

Speaker 29 (01:49:37):
No, no, no, that takes too much time.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
Do you click other stuff?

Speaker 4 (01:49:44):
No?

Speaker 29 (01:49:44):
Not really, just I might in a different country I've
been to. It might get you a little souvenir thing,
you know, And then there's only so much that you
know you can click. Then where your story everything now?

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
Exactly? The keener collecting things is collecting small things.

Speaker 29 (01:50:02):
Yeah, well, like when I've been to, say that, the
Shetlands or up in the Arctic. Unless I just get
some little thing, you know, to bring back.

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
What did you get in the Arctic. I feel it's
a good thing to have.

Speaker 29 (01:50:17):
But I've got a few penguins, you know, down in
the Anti Arctic and the polar bears and you know, yes,
all that stuff. But no, I used to click t
shirts on different places. But you know, you can get
too many you know things.

Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
Did you ever get teaspoons?

Speaker 7 (01:50:37):
No?

Speaker 29 (01:50:38):
About two or three for some friends, but no, I'm
not into teaspoons, no.

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
Nor am I. Okay, nice to talk Diane. Thank you.
Lizard's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 27 (01:50:49):
I had to talk to you because my husband who's
passed the darling Man, he worked there. He was employed
by your new German. There's the aircraft maintenance and spray
painter and the whole work. So they used to fly
them to the show. So I've lost my memory a

(01:51:09):
little bit, but I do know that, and I think
I could be correct. But I didn't know that you
came and talkham, so I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (01:51:19):
I'm sure it did.

Speaker 27 (01:51:21):
Anyway, he was one of the very precious people because
they only had two or three of them.

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
Yeah, well, well I'll find out. I don't think we're
painted the concorde though, did they?

Speaker 27 (01:51:34):
They wouldn't have painted it, but he was making into everything.

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
Might have painted. No, I haven't told you the story yet.
What's the story.

Speaker 27 (01:51:44):
Okay, yep, Well it came home once and it must
have been awkward or somewhere. I don't know where it
was because they used to go all talks places because
there was only two of them or three of them
who did the specific work. And he might have phoned
me from Quite, I don't know. And he said, I'm
so so sick, and I said, well, I've been formed

(01:52:05):
to everything. I said, fine, he said, and I was
sure that the test flight on the concord, because they
did that sort of thing and they were taken up there,
and I'm sure it must have been the concord because
he explained, was plain what it was like, and he
was sick as a dog. Goodness, and that's all I
can remember. But I thought it was an awkward so

(01:52:28):
I might be in.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
Corrected both both.

Speaker 27 (01:52:34):
Well, I only had in his occupation. They were tradespeople.
They would training the engine they were called engineers. It
was there was only about two or three who did
their occupations of the east, flying to christ Church and
god knows where, and oh god, he loved that job
out there, and if they loved it, it was a
really good job.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
Oh it's a nice story too, Liz. I appreciate you
coming through that.

Speaker 14 (01:52:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
Whoa Todd as Marcus. Welcome, I have markets.

Speaker 26 (01:53:07):
She picked a good topic. It's being red hot tonight,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
Oh, yes, we're always strong in the concord. Can't do
it too often every couple of years. How you coming well?

Speaker 26 (01:53:16):
Just before a story the lady who said she saw
it in a museum just a few moments ago in London.
That's called Brooklyn's Museum. That's probably one of the best
things I've been to. It's got the Wellington bombers. They
built them there. But yeah, so that it's just she
couldn't remember it was. But when I first moved here
in two thousand and two, we had a small office.

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We just had four or five of us and we
were in Richmond upon Thames, which is right on the
flight path the Heathrow. In fact, so much so they've had,
sadly people fall out of wheels as they open them.

Speaker 19 (01:53:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 26 (01:53:49):
Yeah, we had won a few years back. I think
it's just before COVID landed on a roof. Horrible, just horrible.
But anyway, the concord. We used to all hang out
our window and I think it was at eleven o'clock
in the morning if it was going our way. Normally
it'd be taken off the other way because they come
in landing that way, but about thirty percent time they
take off towards London, and we used to watch it

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go over the top just an all because it's only
just taking off because we're pretty close to Heathrow, and
then we'd all go out at five thirty because it
was on its way back coming into London. I think
Clow's returned to New York City unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
Was unbelievable. You've spend more time waiting, chicking and going
through customs and the flight.

Speaker 26 (01:54:27):
You would do, especially these days then.

Speaker 2 (01:54:32):
And maybe that's another reason why it wouldn't have lasted
after nine to eleven, because with security you couldn't be bothered.
Could you spending all that time and then correct?

Speaker 26 (01:54:41):
And I think it was it was struggling maintenance wise,
it was becoming expensive. Then you had the accident in
Paris and then all the business travels sort of you know,
sort of dried up around nine to eleven. But you're
like this in our insurance policy because we still live
in the area. Back then, I remember looking in the
small print and we weren't insured for Sonic booms for

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broken windows. Apparently everyone in this area, the insurance companies
wouldn't would ensure you.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
And was there anything that I can't remember because I
think it only did sold booms over the sea, and
I think that's correct.

Speaker 26 (01:55:15):
It wasn't allowed to until it used to. I can't
remember if it probably did smash the windows or something,
but it had to wait till it was over the
iris C or the Atlantic. I think it was the
irs C. The way they're flying, Yeah, it had to
wait till it was off the coast before it could.
Imagine how quick it would have been if it could
have got up faster.

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
Sooner, fly that quickly.

Speaker 26 (01:55:38):
Again talking about it, I heard a guy earlier saying
about that one that was done in New Zealand that
was in the news here last week. And yeah, so yeah, look,
I've just come back from being in book Rest for
the weekend and I was just looking at it. Sits
on the runway, one of them sits on the runway Heathroat.
It's been there ever since. And there's one at Bristol,

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I think where they built them, and there's the one
at the museum. As the lady was saying, so yeah, No,
they're an amazing, amazing piece of technology. It was sort
of a ahead of its time, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
Really much happening in bitter Rest.

Speaker 26 (01:56:15):
It was beautiful weather actually not cold. But yeah no,
no Christmas market ship which was a bit disappointing, but
we had a good time. But a sight seeing a
couple of cheap beers.

Speaker 7 (01:56:24):
It was.

Speaker 26 (01:56:25):
It was, it was nice. It was a good, good trip.

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
Actually, just it's Romania.

Speaker 26 (01:56:31):
It is. Yeah, not to be confused, as I did
telling my mates we were in Buddhapest. Way telling you
when we're in Budapest, put a piece is hungry.

Speaker 2 (01:56:39):
Is it the biggest city in Romania?

Speaker 26 (01:56:42):
Yeah, yeah, by long shot.

Speaker 7 (01:56:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 26 (01:56:46):
The rest of it's pretty rural. Actually I've been to Transylvania.
It's pretty rural. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
Okay, nice to talk Todd. Thanks for ringing a lot
of Concorde stuff. There's a concord of ducks for the
museum just outside Cambridge. It's one of the first ones
built to actually fly commercially, I think, but it's the
one that holds the fastest transatlantic record time. Mark's the
concord at the museum near Frankfurt. Jubiley. They alto have

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a Soviet tup version some of the concord. You can
walk through both. It's called the concord ski Marcus. My
mom put new pillows and all the beads and house
every year. The first time she did this, I was
always at grandparents farm. She'd tossed out my cop capoc below.
My childhood was over twenty years to forgive her. Loll
die what podcast do you think dies this thing to?

(01:57:43):
We are talking about the concord, and that's better than
talking about having a photo with father Christmas by a
long margin. By the way, I don't know what the
last Concord flight was. I presume it was from Heathrow
to Manchester. I don't know what officially one they talk about,

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or it might have been the last Transatlantic flight. I
don't know all the airlines they or the routes they
went on. Actually I know it's most famous for the
Transatlantic and you apparently went quite high you could see
the curvature of the Earth. So I don't know where
the last flight was from, but I could google that up.

(01:58:27):
I'm just trying look where it's last flight was. It
seems like Phil Collins just about lived on it. It's
end of shots of Phil Collins.

Speaker 18 (01:58:36):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:58:36):
Yes. Concord made its last ever flight on November twenty six,
two thousand and three, departing London's Heathrow Airport and landing
in Bristol, England, greeting by a cheering crowd gathered behind
fences near the runways. I don't think Britain could build
one anymore. Could they at list the skills? It was

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the greatest moment. What have they done since the Brits?
I wonder the great technological advances have been the vacuum cleaner,
the Dyson. I don't know, John, It's Marcus, welcome, Hello,
Hi Marcus, Hi John.

Speaker 4 (01:59:17):
Marcus. My experience of Concord was when I was doing
a lot of travel to London and I used to
fly around the world British Airways and they had a
mouthless deal on flying first class and you get upgrade
to Concord from the London New York kingd in London's
New York and I did that a couple of times,

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and amazing, amazing experience.

Speaker 2 (01:59:42):
Did you go through the same did you have your
own special lounges and stuff or did you have to
queue up with all sorts of people at the airport
I to speak to you.

Speaker 4 (01:59:52):
Did you Oh, absolutely, because what the story was the
plane is actually surprisingly small and narrow, so there wasn't
much in the way of food that you had on board,
and you actually had a meal before you boarded the
plane because you're only on the plane flying for about
three hours, so there wasn't time to sort of settle

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down and do a lot of things that you do
on a long trip. So it was a very short trip.
So they they fed you up and then of course
there was all a champagne that was et cetera on board,
but the plane wasn't wide enough. They have a full
Catrinx service my recollection, and it was surprisingly just how

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how narrow the plane was, but just just an effolutely amazing,
amazing way to fly around the world. And it's you know,
I'm getting on of it now, but it brings back
a lot of memories doing it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:49):
So the sort of that I've never heard people talk
about the So it's sort of like a restaurant you're
in beforehand. Is that what it was like?

Speaker 4 (02:00:56):
Oh, it was just a lounge, just like a normal lounge. Yeah,
and you know it's suddenly you were you were traveling
with some pretty rich people, and from memory you couldn't
take too much in the way of excess luggage. I
think there was memory there was limits on that, and

(02:01:18):
you know where as you go first class britt years.
In those days you could take almost unlimited luggage, but
on the concord you had to restrict yourself to a certain weight.

Speaker 2 (02:01:30):
Hey, just before you while still got you there, John,
did you sense that it was just an aberration, a
moment in time. What did you sense that this was
the future of flight?

Speaker 29 (02:01:45):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:01:45):
No, because it had its limitations in terms of the
size of the aircraft. I couldn't imagine it actually developing
into the normal thing because there was just so much
criticism of noise.

Speaker 2 (02:01:58):
So you're aware of that then when you're flying it
that it mightn't be around forever.

Speaker 4 (02:02:04):
Well, one had the sense, I mean you, you know,
traveling at speed to create a bit of counsel around obviously,
but as someone said, it didn't really happen till he
got over the sea and they had the little thing
on the wall which told you the speed of the plane.
And when you crossed the mat too, you've got a
little bump in your back which was the indication that

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I had actually reached the spersonic speed that it was,
which is just the whole thing. Marcus was to be
on a fight from New Zealand. I was an exporter
install am and you could just do this trip, which
made life pretty exciting. To be honest, when you're traveling.

Speaker 2 (02:02:47):
Did it feel quicker on takeoff or was it just
felt standard?

Speaker 4 (02:02:52):
Oh? I felt. I felt there was a bit more
power and takeoff because it was a smaller plane and
obviously going very fast. And as I say that, the
people said the seats et cetera were very comfortable, but
there were nothing straordinary in terms of decoed like you
have today.

Speaker 2 (02:03:10):
Okay, I really appreciate your calling, John, thank you very
much for that. Twenty eight to twenty two to twelve. Brian,
good evening.

Speaker 5 (02:03:18):
Good evening, Marcus. Brian another traveler who's been on me
on the concord.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
Oh god, on the trans Atlantic.

Speaker 5 (02:03:29):
Paris, Paris to New York across the top.

Speaker 2 (02:03:35):
And what were the circumstances of that.

Speaker 5 (02:03:39):
We were a wife and I on a around the
world business trip for many stops, and that took us
from Paris to New York. We traveled in many aeroplanes
and did a lot of flame, so that the concord
was quite special and absolutely unique. Just the small plane,

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a bit noisy, no sense of speed, what's weather when
you're sitting in the plane, just the dial at the
front that tells you you're going at March two. And
the tall seats so you couldn't see very easily forward
and backward in the plane, and tiny little windows. But

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the outlook from the windows was something that most people
would never imagine. If you look upwards, the sky is
black and the stars are out. If you look downwards,
you see sunshine and the earth all all bright and
lit up. So we were flying in the daytime, but

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looking upwards was nighttime for the stars out.

Speaker 2 (02:04:50):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (02:04:52):
That doesn't occur in any other plane that I've been on,
and I've been on a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (02:04:57):
And that's because of the altitude. You're flying twice the
normal altitude, I think, is that right.

Speaker 5 (02:05:02):
Sixty sixty thousand feet or so sixty maybe sixty five normally?
I think these days it's even hard to get to
forty thousand feet in in commercial flights.

Speaker 2 (02:05:15):
And did you think, like the previous caller that it
wasn't going to be the future of fly. Did it
feel like that was going to be the way we're
all going to fly? It seem unsustainable?

Speaker 5 (02:05:23):
Oh, no, totally unsustainable.

Speaker 2 (02:05:26):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (02:05:27):
I also knew one of the English the chief engineer
of the electrical installations in the Concord the Concords, and
he didn't see any future for it either.

Speaker 2 (02:05:40):
Oh, it just seems so looking back at it seems
to be a complete vanity project for the French and
the when least they managed to cooperate on something, I suppose.

Speaker 5 (02:05:48):
Yeah, well, they didn't even cooperate very well. There was
a lot of punch up between them, but they've got
the thing flying.

Speaker 9 (02:05:54):
In me.

Speaker 5 (02:05:55):
It cost an enormous amount of money, and of course
you were I can't remember how many people that would
be on a at a tie, but.

Speaker 2 (02:06:04):
It felt like about eight. It felt like about eighty
from what I think I might have read, But I'll check.

Speaker 5 (02:06:08):
That it's less than one hundred two persons wide on
each side of a very narrow, very narrow aisle down
between the seats. The backs of the seats are extremely high,
so you have to stand up to see the forward
cabin and where the the speed indicator was at the

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at the front of the cabin. It was a little flight,
as the last person mentioned, very flash and lavish the
area before you get on the plane, and a lot

(02:06:55):
of very rich people, and as we used to say,
it's haven for the oil sheets, and those days are
about the only way she could afford it. In fact,
on our trip we had around the world and then
mostly first class tripped around the world, and it costs
us an ext one hundred to take that flight on

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the concrete.

Speaker 2 (02:07:18):
Well, thanks so much for coming through, Brian. Delightful to
talk to you here on midnight. Malcolm, Hello, greetings, welcome.

Speaker 9 (02:07:25):
Well, yeah, yeah, Malcolm, here's only my second time to
call on top back. Hey, look, I had a bit
of experience with the concord. I was sort of inchroas
it is. I must have been the mid eighties, but anyway,
we heard it was there and a cup of friends,
so we went to the import and we could see
it and we walked down to the right hand side.

(02:07:45):
We could see it through the glass window. You know,
we're away from the departure arrival, and we sought we'll
just check the door, and unbelievable, the door wasn't locked.
Room and so we could walk through the door onto
the you know, onto the you know, you know, just
outside the you know, onto the tanac and we thought
I would just have one around a concord and we said,

(02:08:07):
oh yeah, oh look at this, this is amazing and
su adawnus. There's no security and there was always but
odd anyway, the MP was there, so he walked up
the ramp. Can't we peek inside? So yeah, we were unbelievable.
So we walked down. You could hardly stand up, and
we thought, oh, well when mails are go up to

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the cock that and have a lock. So we had
warned around. Yeah, look at the cop It was about
three four US and we said, oh, oh, I think
we've had a good look. And now well we'll get
off and just get around. And we had another look around.
There was no security.

Speaker 2 (02:08:46):
I can understand that because what you what you are
we talking nineteen ninety Oh.

Speaker 9 (02:08:51):
No, this I was living Queen's and now no, this
was in the mid eighties or I can remember this
exact year, but I googled her and it was I
don't know, somewhere in the eighties there, the mid eighties
or something, nearly eighties, but that was that was our experience.

Speaker 2 (02:09:10):
So you were with mates, I'll.

Speaker 9 (02:09:13):
Just with a couple of frame three of us turve us.

Speaker 2 (02:09:16):
Yeah, and there'd be no security footage, there would be
no security cameras then either.

Speaker 9 (02:09:22):
I don't know, but you know, we can't believe that
the door was open. Then we could see it through
the glass door and we just walked out and there's nobody.
There's nobody in that close area. I think we could
see a plane over over there, you know what I mean.
It was a way a little bit, you know, back
So when we approached the airport, if you're looking at
the airport and you approachability.

Speaker 2 (02:09:43):
Was it daytime one nighttime?

Speaker 9 (02:09:45):
Oh this is in daytime.

Speaker 2 (02:09:47):
Okay, a nighttime you wouldn't have the lights on. And
size was it narrow? Was it narrow inside?

Speaker 16 (02:09:54):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (02:09:54):
Yes it was.

Speaker 9 (02:09:55):
You could hardly stand up. It was very narrow, and
it was I think there's just two seats on the side.
And but we just.

Speaker 3 (02:10:02):
Can't believe it.

Speaker 2 (02:10:03):
I can't believe it.

Speaker 9 (02:10:05):
No, I just couldn't believe there wasn't, you know, because
when the door was open, we coudn't see anybody about
nobody standing. Why they ran We thought, oh, well those
have got up and have a look there, maybe somebody inside.

Speaker 2 (02:10:20):
It will almost make a good sort of article about
that time that you know, someone just could walk. It
shows what the times were like when you just walk
onto a plane, even could have start good, start away,
there'd be no room to start away on it. But
you know, it's pretty amazing you got on it.

Speaker 9 (02:10:33):
Well, we couldn't. We could not believe it. It was absolutely standing.
We just thought, what it's going on here?

Speaker 3 (02:10:39):
You know?

Speaker 9 (02:10:40):
But we thought and the most of them before we
get somebody comes over and kicks us off.

Speaker 24 (02:10:44):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:10:45):
Was it during a weekday?

Speaker 7 (02:10:48):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (02:10:48):
Look, I can't remember that now, honestly. Well, probably was
a weekend because the other two Troe guys used to
kick around togither, so pay more likely your weekend. But bereful, sunny,
calm day, that's what I remember.

Speaker 2 (02:11:02):
When the first thing was the gate. You could just
get through a gate and the Hurrican war, get onto
the airport, onto the runway. Is that right?

Speaker 13 (02:11:09):
Well, we were.

Speaker 9 (02:11:09):
We were inside the building and you could see that
we could see the conquer through the glass and I say,
you come into the main entrance and we just walked
to the right because we could see it over over
that direction through the windows. But we walked down and
we came to a slight a door or a glass door,
just like a small glass double door, and we pushed

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on it and you could open it. So we thought, well, no,
go through.

Speaker 2 (02:11:37):
Hell of a story to hell of a story. Malk
I'm glad that it just it just re remembered that tonight.

Speaker 28 (02:11:43):
Oh.

Speaker 9 (02:11:43):
I know, I've thought about it a bit. I remembered
it off and on over the years. You know what
I mean. Yeah, yeah, we're here, you're killing the conquer.
I thought I'll just early start working in my wander,
but now I can't my chance to bring up and
tell you the destroyer.

Speaker 2 (02:12:00):
Appreciate it, Malcolm, Thank you, Marcus. The word facts is
short for fectimly. I haven't heard word four years.

Speaker 4 (02:12:10):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (02:12:10):
Anyone didn't know it was short for that. But that's interesting, Marcus.
Would there be less turbulant on the concord because of
flying at height? An extremely good question. We might end
up flying at height with all the turbulence. I don't
know if we'll go super sonic again once again. I
feel like Freddy Mercury. What's the song he says about supersonic.

(02:12:33):
Every time I get that, every time I get the
lyric in my head, some beverage on after me tonight.
This is just a slow wind down for me. People
don't stop me now, isn't it. Where does he say supersonic?
I'm burning through the sky yere to degrees. That's why

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they call me mister Fahrenhape. I'm traveling at the speed
of light. I want to make a supersonic mean out
of you. Those garbage lyrics. You should not. I guess
it was no Leonard Cohen, was he? Do I know
who's got his followers.

Speaker 1 (02:13:16):
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