Put it in August (29 November 2024)

Marcus floats an idea (which people do not take to very well), tries to help with patch TV reception, and talks about the woes of auto pilot.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Increasing's welcome we God evening moname is Marcus had twelve
eight oh seven Huge week, Big week. What do you got?
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine to nine
two to text. Someone sent me some pictures of the
inside of the concord. Thank you for that, Marcus, and
joyous into your concord topic during the week. I've attached
to pictures for your archive. Apologies if I already sent

(00:36):
them after I spoke to a couple of years ago
on the show. One of the cockpit. One of the
cabin area. As you can see, no problem standing seats,
some of to economy and within covered with leather. I
was told by staff in the US it is not
uncommon for some rich and famous pests to buy two
seats for extra space. The winners are not that small,

(00:57):
just the center isla is narrow but wide enough for
carvary servers from a trolley. The flight was not full
of and along with other pests of the cockpit from
the doorway during the cruise part of the flight from
Memory six Pastures in turn took up the offer to visit.
N asked the captain four questions, but stead a full
question limit on the concord. It's actually been a big

(01:19):
week of aviation, both with the concord because it was
the anniversary twenty one years since the last one ever flew,
and two days later it was forty five years since
the anniversary the commemoration of Erebus. So you have very
aviation related We might pivot to ships tonight. You'll wonder

(01:43):
what is the nritive ships having this autopilot because more
often than not, I mean, if I was a skipper,
the first thing I'd be checking is the autopilot because
so often that goes wrong. I think it went wrong
with the Enter Islander, and I think it's gone wrong
with the Manoanui. So at least we now know that

(02:06):
the autopilot. Yeah, that's the first thing. You want to
have someone on board that just says, hang about because
with the other Teddy they didn't know how to turn
off the order pilot, and with the Manna juan Nui,
they didn't know the auto pilot was on. So there

(02:27):
you go. If you're out yachting, boating tonight, or doing
anything boat related, just remember anything goes wrong. The first
thing ascertain whether the autopilot is on it shunk ones.
It sunk one ship and put the other on the
hard so you might pivot to boats tonight. Also too,

(02:50):
not long till Christmas. If you've got something Christmas ated
you want to say talk about. There's been quite a few.
There's been quite a few. There has been a bit
of talk this week about people wanting to move Christmas
to the middle of the year. Don't know what you

(03:15):
think about that. I wouldn't have a problem if it
was moved. I'd rather celebrate Christmas in the middle of
the year. But I am cognizant of the fact that
there's some people out there that probably think this is
the worst idea they've ever heard, because they would think
that the whole point of Christmas is about the birth

(03:38):
of Jesus, which isn't kind which is kind of true.
But I'm sure if you look at it, the birth
of Jesus is probably not set in Stone Rose four
to six BC for a start, and according to my research,

(04:09):
they chose the twenty fifth December because it was close
to the winter solstice. No one knows when Jesus was born.
No one knows a month they reckon it could have
been October evening, Pete, Marcus, welcome here again.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
And then Marcus had a good week.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
It's been a very good week, Pete. Thank you, extremely
good week. Reproductive.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
So you gotta be done on the farm, are you?

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, a lot done everywhere, Actually a lot of lawn mowing,
lot of just a lot us. Just one of those
guys that gets a lot done.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Pete.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
You know how it does go go go go good?

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Are you just regarding the Christmas? We're the people going
to leave things alone? Just live the way it is now?

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Why why would you surrender all your power? Change? Change? Change?

Speaker 4 (05:02):
No, too many changes. It's been like that for years.
In the summertime, that's when the Holidays arts, the end
of the year. Just people, just get it out of
your head and live it the way it is.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
But you move Christmas to July, right, nice cozy fire,
hot We've got a hot cut might snow you've got
a hot meal and feel more traditional.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
No, you got some of the days a long where
you can take the kids out and play the toys
and stuff, go to the beach. You can't do that.
And in the winter Kenya in their market.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, but it's better because you're gettingside. I don't know.
But what I'm interested for you? What is the other
stuff that people are changing? It's freaking you out.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Ah, just forgotten most of them now, but just a
lot of things trying to change. Try to reinvent the wheel,
you know, just the wheel has already been made, so
you've got to step on changing them all the time,
you know.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Has anyone reinvented the wheel?

Speaker 4 (06:03):
No, they ain't. You can't really, can you? With the wheels,
It's it's a circle. You can't really convent the will,
can you really?

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Can you?

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Well, we were saying that, but I'm sure there's ways
to do it, and I'm sure and I'm sure the
wheel has been reinvented countless times through history with tread
and ties and and it's probably through constant reinventing of
the wheel that we've ended up with the wheel we've
got now.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Oh but at the end of the day, you can
only think around so much and you come to an
end and basically you can't.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
Do no more.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Would you join a protest march? Would you join a
protest march to oppose the moving of Christmas.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
I wouldn't go that far.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
So you're not that passionate about it that What about
your Year's Day? You're happy where that is?

Speaker 4 (06:53):
I reckon, it's fine.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
It is well easter, you're happy when that is? It's
all right, Okay, okay, happy camera home, Okay, let's stop
move Christmas? Peter, thanks for starting. Why don't you leave
things as they are? New Zealand? To get a cricket
hall of fame? What's with hall of fames? No one
wants them? They're not interesting. You can't put a game

(07:16):
in a hall. Let's try to do this. Examn't they
like an athletics hall of fame, a cricket hall of fame?
There's a rugby hall of fame? They reckon, no one goes.
I wouldn't it. Is it a hall of famers in
a museum in Parmiston, North But you don't want these things.
You don't want museums. Basically we're going to move Christmas.

(07:39):
We're going to move Christmas to winter. Good idea, terrible idea.
I just get fed the ideas and go with them.
So I don't take it out of me and say
you need you don't start protesting my outside my house.
I'm just wondering because no one really knows when it was.

(08:01):
Keep Christmas, for it is hot in the summer. To
round out the year. We need another public holiday. About
September Mataaliki Day was a brilliant idea. Gosh, look at that, Marcus.
What about Christmas holidays a, especially as they can coincide
with New Years. Oh, you just have a week off
for Christmas in the winter, middle term of school. So

(08:26):
what I'd move I'd move Guy Fawkes to the end
of the year. I'd move Christmas. I'd leave Anzac Day
because people would kick on if we moved that labor weekend.
Not fussed about that. But yeah, I never really thought
about moving Christmas. But quite a bit of attraction about
that today out there. You think we should move Christmas. Oh,
I hear the thing of moving Christmas. I can't imagine

(08:47):
Old Luxon would be into it, would he But yeah,
no one quite knows what day or what month that
Jesus was born, well, certainly not the Internet. They do
say it was about four to six BC. Some say

(09:11):
that September the eleventh. That's according to the Bible. If
you aluys got any more intel about that. I've never
had this as a topic before. By the way, they're
going to celebrate Saint Andrews Day and Dunedin might even
be this weekend. I don't know much about Saint Andrews Day,

(09:35):
but I think I might have been there once for
the celebrations. Need some free hegis or free eighteen past eight, Ben, Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
Here we go, Marcus good Ben.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
Who put this idea in the year of Changing Christmas?

Speaker 8 (09:52):
Mate, they need to be head that he'd read. Why
I like your previous school, I said, it's in the
middle of summertime, winding down to the end of the year.
It's warm, you can hear people around longer day light hours,
you can.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
That's the whole point. The whole point. You just want
to get on with your holidays, but you've got to
do all this sort of shopping and all that sort
of stuff, and it's it's a Christmas is a handbreak
on the summer holiday.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
You're still going to do that in July, aren't you.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
It works three well in the Northern Hemisphere, they just
take time off to be with families, sit around and
those nice woodline lounges have their kind of Christmas what
we've No, it just doesn't. Okay, here's something. Why don't

(10:53):
you pretend just see how flexible you are? Okay, Ben, well,
why don't you pretend that it's going to be a
really good idea in July and try and convince me.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
So then if three evident in July, are we going
to move to Christmas holidays through July? So four weeks
off in July and then we have no holidays over
the summer period or they there's going to be like
like a a three day long.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Weekked just be like a week off.

Speaker 6 (11:25):
A week off when you have enough time off?

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Who's whose says there? Are you an employer?

Speaker 5 (11:33):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Do you want less holidays?

Speaker 6 (11:37):
Were but maybe more time off? Are you going to
take their their time away from the summertime?

Speaker 3 (11:49):
No, because most people have got school holidays in the
mid term, so you just had a couple of days on.
I don't know, but I'm just saying that people are
talking about it.

Speaker 6 (11:58):
Yeah, who's talking about it?

Speaker 3 (12:01):
You've got to be.

Speaker 6 (12:04):
More Ahms principle as a round band. But something's just
got to stay.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Hey, well, why.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
Because in your Christmas won align with the rest of
the world.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
It, well, because they have it in their winter.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
Yeah, so are they going to move We're going to
move the world's Christmases to July.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Well, we just start with New Zealand. The other countries
would have autonomy, they could do what they want.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
Oh yeah, but that's that's that's a the world and
the world thing. Everyone knows that Christmas around the world
is on the twenty fifth of December. Really, well, most
most countries that do.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
You know all countries celebrate Christmas in September.

Speaker 6 (12:57):
No, most Westernized countries then celebrate Christmas on the twenty
fifth of the which is most of those countries who
we are rianting.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
The countries that don't celebrate Christmas on the twenty fifth
of September include Serbia, Monte Negro, Kajakistan, Macedonia, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Georgia,
and Bulgaria.

Speaker 7 (13:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
And in what alignment that we got to those countries.
What a little bit for some things, but.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
What alignments have we got?

Speaker 6 (13:40):
So when our soldiers go overseas and then we're having Christmas,
and then our comrades from the United States for the UK,
if there Christmas at a different time, we're all going
to feel out of place and we won't feel the love.
Everyone won't have the laugh to give it.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
No, No, I don't think so.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
Oh I've been there, done it.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Are you ex combat?

Speaker 6 (14:09):
Yeah, so we've been over season and operations when we've
had Christmas and everyone comes to get out. All nations
then celebrate Christmas at that time.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
But what about if you're over there in combat celebrating
Christmas in July and you get all your mates across
to your camp because it's your Christmas. Like, oh, I'll
tell you what. We're out there and being from New Zealand,
they's a soldier there and he said, coming over out
here for Christmas, be.

Speaker 6 (14:37):
Like, oh, yeah, it's not our Christmas, it's your Christmas.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Even more special, what a special Christmas that was. We
celebrated with Bean in July. Appreciate your moxy Ben. Thank you.
Marcus White. Change Christmas day to another day that has
no significance either. I've now got to hit ache thinking
about it, Marcus. Christmas and winter puts news in and

(15:03):
out with the rest of the world. By the way,
who are these people you are quote too many to name, Marcus.
I believe that Jesus' birth was around Easter. That's because
of the Census and all families getting together the celebration
at that time, and it was passover. Who can see

(15:24):
a text with the word census and not think of that?
John Denver song, Marcus, have you taken a heavy blow
to your head lately? Christmas in July? Question mark? Question
about question mark? Question about question mark? Question mark. As
a matter of fact, I have had a blow to
the head recently. I've told you about my fall when
the cell phone smashed. Marcus. The Rugby Museum in Palmerston

(15:49):
North was fantastic and is constantly busy. I don't how
busy would it be. I've never met anyone that's been
how busy, who sees something's concept? Constantly busy? That's probably
closed a lot of the time. I've closed on Christmas.

(16:11):
So is anyone in favor of moving Christmas? Apart from
people that we can't name. Ten thousand people annually for
the Rugby Museum, that's not bad. It's thirty a day,
twenty seven a day. Go them anyway, Have you taken

(16:34):
a blow to the head now? No cause or restoration
time for Penrose Green Lane at the stage. What about
putting Christmas in August. Then you've got a big break,
You've got Matadiki, and then you got Labor Day, and
then halfway through deck the halls with wreaths of holly

(16:58):
fa la la la la la la la la fa
la la la la la la la fa la la
la la la la la she It's an emotional it's
an emotional stretch to go from Arabus to this, isn't
it when we've been was in combat? To be fair,

(17:21):
most of the people want to move Christmas want to
move at are Americans because it's too close to Thanksgiving,
which is today in the USA, which is yesterday. Helen,
it's Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 9 (17:30):
Yes, good evening. There's a couple of things here now.
The first is that a few centuries ago they changed
the calendar so that instead of September, October, November, December
being the ninth, tenth, twelfth months, they were actually sept
meaning seven, opt meaning eighth, November nine, and December tenth.

(17:51):
So they did something to when the year started. So
you might like to actually follow that up, because I
don't know why it happened that.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Would that would put Christmas in about February, wouldn't it?

Speaker 9 (18:03):
I have got no idea. This is why I just
throw it into confus whose matters now? I really enjoyed
the discussion about gunder Guy the other night and people
were still talking about the eighteen fifty two flood the
next day where yes, Jamie mackay he was talking to
Chris Russell who was actually in gunder Guy. I know
we're talking about the flood. And then there was a

(18:24):
mention of it on Carry's as well.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Anyway, that's top that's topic creep played again on Jamie
McKay Carry. That's the great key week Cranella.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
I believe.

Speaker 9 (18:36):
I hardly could believe my ears went because I just
threw that into a bit of trivia.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
It was not yours goodness, you know what you are Helen?
Is the topic whisperer.

Speaker 9 (18:47):
Sorry no, no, I didn't creep it, but I introduced
to night and it really took off.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah, but that's the topic whisper If you get a
topic like that which has got so much virality that
you can actually plant that in the show and have
Jamie McKay mentioned it, but he would be I mean
they probably consume were his without of rain, We've got
the probably thought it was a gunder Guy type tempest. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (19:10):
Now there's this book that I thought you might be
interested in. It's called King of the Castle by Fleur Snedden,
and it's actually biography of William Larnock, you know, the
of who built Larnox Castle. But how this ties up
with gunder Guy. He actually came from He was actually
born in the Murrambidgie and he married he married these

(19:35):
two sisters, save sisters who from the Murraam Bidjie and
and that the first wife was called Eliza Jay and Geese.
Now she was actually rescued off the off a rooftop
with her mother and baby brother when she was a
small child in the big eighteen forty seven flood, which

(19:56):
was the flood before the eighteen fifty And I've got
those dates a bit mixed up anyway, between the eighteen
before the eighteen fifty two flood. Now, I wonder why
they bothered building rebuilding Gunda Guy after that after the
big flood in eighteen forty seven, but they did, and
then they got wiped out in eighteen fifty two. But anyway,

(20:17):
everybody else had the date right except me, so I
thought i'd consess to that. Anyway, it's a very interesting book.
It goes into that big flood and the conditions of
the settlers and everything around around that time, and then
we get all the stuff about the Larnux and Larnak
Castle and all that stuff. So I thought i'd passed

(20:38):
that on. It's King of the Castle by Flir Snedden,
And if you looking up on Google you'll see it.
You might be able to get if you wanted to
read it, might be able to get it through the
InterLAN library service that they have, you know, because if
you want to get a book and it's you're not
in your local library, they can get it in from
other libraries. So I just thought i'd chuck all that in.

(20:59):
Thanks Marcus, I really enjoy your shows.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Were were allowed to marry sisters?

Speaker 9 (21:04):
Well they were half sisters. Well, the first one died
and then Mary coached.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
He married them at different times.

Speaker 9 (21:13):
Yeah, yeah, the first one was sewn by anyone. Won't
go into that, but it all it's all set out
in the book if you want to follow it up.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Brilliant he and thank you so much. Twenty seven to nine.
I was too scared to go to the texts. There
is a movement There's a Wikipedia page called Christmas in July,
and Americans want to move it. Marcus, Christmas is not
the only date that we celebrate a birthday on a
different day. The late Queen and King Charles had the

(21:42):
birthdays celebrated us in on the first Monday of June,
which doesn't have a constant date, Marcus. Instead of moving Christmas,
why not re look at the school holidays. What if
we had four week breaks over Christmas and then a
four week mid year winter break. Come on, lastly, anything

(22:03):
but gunder Guy tonight? Please know? Well, yeah, it's a
viral topic though. I mean it's gone from It's gone
from Wednesday to Friday. It's gone from the eight to
twelve show to Jamie mackay cheaper. It's got that Oh
I might ring the feel like I could read might
ring talk back about gudda guy. Why don't we move

(22:31):
New Year? Marcus? This is a great topic. Moving Christmas
absolutely made my day listening to your cause about this hilarious?
Did I hear you say something about moving?

Speaker 5 (22:42):
You?

Speaker 3 (22:42):
U too? Everybody been, Brian Marcus. There is too much
technology on boats. Is the auto pilot she would automatically
disengage when the helm is used and then you get
full control. You'd think so, wouldn't you an override Marcus.
It's a bit random moving Christmas to the wind, but

(23:03):
good as it's triggering quite a few people tonight. I
think they think you've been serious. Also being to the
Rugby Museum, many mostly foreign tourists, mostly British tourists. But yeah,
it seems to be a mixed response about moving Christmas,

(23:23):
some for it, some against it. I'd say, to be fair,
there'd be more against than for it. I'd like to
change things up a bit. Interesting enough. The website to
move Christmas to July seems to mainly be an initiative

(23:47):
from Northern Hemisphere people that want it to be more summary.
I'm all for the winter Wonderland. That's me. Yeah. By

(24:07):
the way, the Hallmark Channel run blocks of their original
Christmas TV films in July because that's when people want
to watch that kind of stuff. Anyone else want to
get in touch with moving Christmas? Anyone who heard the
arguments for and against decided it's a good idea. I
think I think it's one of the I think it's

(24:31):
one of the very brave things to be able to
do is to be able to change your mind once
hearing good evidence. I think we can be too fixed
in our ways. Do you get in touch? Also the
Manawanui and the autopilot if I was running ships, Yeah,

(24:56):
don't think I'm having the autopilot moving Christmas. It's kind
of a movement that's building online. I've got no comment,
but I'm always up for a bit of to mix
things up a bit. I mean, historically he could probably
argue for it, but I think image you would be

(25:18):
like the flag debate. If we had a referendum on it,
everyone would be an next to you know, Hello, Marcus,
Good evening, Marcus. I'm an an expert on the what
was the old form of calendar? What's our form of calendar?
Is ours? The Gregorian? Who would say, I'm an expert
on the calendar before that, I don't even know what

(25:40):
the calendar before the Gregorian was. The Google will tell
me a I'll tell me the Julian calendar. Hello, Marcus,
I'm an expert on the Julian calendar and in fact
the correct day for Oh, by the way, what calendar
Jesus use? He used? The Julian? Yeah, so you could

(26:05):
you could make all of arguments for it. I don't
know how the Julian count ad three hundred and sixty
five days in it. There must have been longer months
were they did they how it worked? Yenu Arius twenty

(26:27):
nine days, Februarius twenty eight days, Intercilarious twenty seven days,
Martius a prittism. I don't know how it worked. Very
very complicated Wikipedia page for it. Wish I'd never clicked
on it. It's doing my heading. If you want to
meet this, you upbreaking used. By the way the situation
with Penrose the power cut white area then not that big,

(26:50):
quite localized, quite localized. How you're going people, Marc are
still twelve. If you've got something different, you want to
mention up for it totally? Do we know what shows?
Is it going to be on Christmas Day? Yet? Whateckon?
It's going to be not in her? And what was
last year on Christmas where the Lion king was and

(27:13):
it was lyon? I think who knows? Marcus? I thought
you were having a laugh, but now I know that
you are being serious. Who would want to move Christmas?
This is the first time I've heard of anyone wanting
to move Christmas. Imagine the future tourists coming to us
end would be questioning what is going on? We celebrate

(27:34):
Christmas in July years and March, celebrate your birthday and
the day you're choosing. Is it amazing that people always
embarrassed about what tourists would think. There's a country we've
got to actually get a backbone and not be concerned.
On the show, we discussed giving up smoke, benning cigarettes.

(27:56):
What people say? What would tourists think? Now? Moving Christmas?
What would tourists? Who cares? And what tourists love is
a point of difference. Imagine if tourists came, oh, how
was your trip to New Zealand grand amazing, fantastic and

(28:17):
get this Christmas in July? Yeah, go figure they've been
doing that, this's about twenty twenty five. They love it. Yeah,
someone's seen some weird orbs and Wellington. Not me though.

(28:42):
Who wants to move Christmas? And and why? I love to?
So now people want someone that's gonna move it. They
want to blame someone. It's an Internet thing. It's on Reddit,
ari double d. I don't even know who owned Reddit.
I don't know if it's a good source. But there's
a lot of chats on Reddit about moving Christmas. We

(29:05):
are talking about moving Christmas. This is not my idea.
So just because I talk about something doesn't mean that
it's my I mean, because something you need to be
a bit flexible. Whoh when I can talk about stuff
that I don't approve of as well. But you know,
I'm just hearing people's arguments to move it might make

(29:27):
a decision. Well, it's a good idea. Like with the flag,
I was always ambivalent about changing the flag until I
saw the four appalling designs they came up with, and
I thought, well, only change the flag if it's something better,

(29:49):
not one of those dogs breakfasts. And that's my attitude
about changing Christmas. See the arguments, listen to the evidence.
Give it a go, Marcus. The weather is always better
at the end of January. Si Christmas, then, Marcus, don't

(30:12):
have enough reception to call you. But you years ago
had a brilliant chat about taking your main holiday when
you choose hence snow sports or summer holiday sports. Brilliant,
lots of kind energy. Someone says, don't go there. Christmas
and New Year go hand in hand. Really, and someone

(30:33):
seeing weird orbs and Wellington got a weird orb. How's
your weird orb, Chris, it's Marcus.

Speaker 10 (30:45):
Welcome Marcus, you brought so I tuned on a little
bit late today so thinks of me. But I hear
you talking about the flag debate that was had, and
at the time I did like the flag with the

(31:05):
fern on the top left and the southern cross, but
voted to keep the old school one.

Speaker 11 (31:13):
But if there had.

Speaker 10 (31:15):
Been a black flag with the silver fern on it,
I think I'm very keyes would have voted for that
because that's the flag we use for all sports.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Christ It's the flag we used for what.

Speaker 10 (31:30):
So you know, the black flag, the silver fern on it,
that's the flag we used during sports, you know, like
the silver fern. Like if there was an option to
vote for that one, that that referendum would have been
ripped up and we would have a new flag.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Now I don't know that you're right.

Speaker 10 (31:50):
Well, the reason was, I think something was said that
it looks too much similar to an ISIS flag at
the time, So there wasn't a black flag with the
silver fern put on it, because yeah, that's that's the
flag that gets.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
I don't think isis was around during the flag reffo Chris.

Speaker 11 (32:10):
Mm hmmm. I will leave it up because the.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Flag referendum was about nineteen ninety twenty sixteen, was it.

Speaker 10 (32:20):
Yeah, I would think a black flag with a silver
fern on it would beat and a referendum any of
those other four that came up, but it was. It
was never an option.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
But the other the weakbex box had the silver fern on,
didn't it.

Speaker 11 (32:41):
Oh, should we have a weak bix box as a flag?

Speaker 3 (32:45):
No, but but that's what those flags looked like. The
ones with a furd looked like a weak beex box.

Speaker 11 (32:50):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Terrible. That was Lockwood that some Aussie guy called Lockwood
design them terrible.

Speaker 10 (32:57):
Yeah, and to be honest, like those four flags that
got to the final referendum, they were all horrible. But yeah,
I'll be interested to see how many of us yes
or black flag with the still.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't like it. That's that's a note
for me and a yes from you. Yeah, that one
brilliant Chris David Marcus welcome.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
Yeah, Hi, sky Sport.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Brilliant, You're onto it.

Speaker 7 (33:30):
I'm having a lot of trouble getting reception. It started
weeks ago, probably when we're the Black Caps in India.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Three weeks ago, four weeks ago.

Speaker 7 (33:42):
Yeah, anyway, it covered started at four o'clock in the afternoon,
and by nine o'clock I had the dialogue box come
up on the screen Atmossairy conditions have interrupted your viewing.
And that has happened every single night since, although it's

(34:03):
now happening at six o'clock at night.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Goodness.

Speaker 7 (34:06):
I've had several sky technicians around and none of them
can explain the problem. And I'm getting reception through the day,
so it could be the sky dish. But if it
was the sky dish, I can't imagine why I would
get reception at day but not at night. It's there

(34:29):
might be somebody out there in the country who can
explain this to me.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Oh, I appreciate your up faith in the talk bag audience. David,
you've got a sky dish. What time does it start going.

Speaker 7 (34:40):
Fuzzy these days?

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Six o'clock right at six or is it kind of
is it vary?

Speaker 7 (34:49):
Oh, sort of, It might be fifteen minutes either side.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
But yeah, so, yeah, it's not old school interference or anything,
is it.

Speaker 7 (35:01):
No, there's no atmospheric conditions going.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
You're playing, You're not plugging anything that's causing Yeah, other
was used to be a great thing with interference. You
don't hear about it anymore, do you.

Speaker 7 (35:11):
No, you don't. But no, I'm not I'm got a
microwave going or anything like that. I mean, I had
great reception during the Olympics, no problem at all. But
it's just happened recently. And as I said, no trouble
getting sky reception during the day. Come six o'clock, atmospheric

(35:33):
conditions have interrupted your viewing. And it's the same every night,
and I just cannot get any answers out of sky Sport.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
But they see technicians around and they were useless.

Speaker 7 (35:45):
Right, Yeah, they just said to us, possibly your sky dish.
But if it is a sky dish, why do I
get reception.

Speaker 12 (35:55):
During the day?

Speaker 3 (35:57):
What they say to that?

Speaker 7 (35:59):
They didn't have an answer, So rung the sky Sports
several times. You can't get past the front desk and
they don't really know anything. And I've heard a whisper
that sky Sport is having trouble with his slatellite. But

(36:22):
I don't know, but there must be something fairly basic
going on. Yeah, it's for something off to use my language.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
No, I can appreciate your I can appreciate your passion.
How long you've been a subscriber for people that ring
about sky love to say how long they've been a
subscriber for?

Speaker 7 (36:40):
Oh, I can't remember. Make ten years at least. Yeah,
it's a big part of my entertainment. I love my sport.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Not anymore though, because you can't watch it.

Speaker 7 (36:53):
Well I can during the day. Yeah, ok, yeah, but
I mean, yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
I mean, have you got a new skybox.

Speaker 7 (37:04):
The first technician that came around and swapped out my
old one for a new recondition one.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
What color is it black?

Speaker 9 (37:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (37:15):
I'm looking at the at the box here as I'm
sitting here, but I've turned it off and there's the
red light.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
You can you do me a favorite? Can you go
to channel eight eight eight?

Speaker 7 (37:28):
I can, but it probably won't come up because there'll
be at atmospheric condition and interruption. Okay eight day day
satellite test channel. Atmospheric conditions have temporarily interrupted your viewing
no signal, Okay, And that's what it does on every

(37:51):
channel every night at six o'clock.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
So you go go to the web. You've got to
go to the website, okay, and you put your smart
card number and you put on an According to Channel
eight eight eight, I'm not yet ready.

Speaker 7 (38:12):
Okay, I'll give it a go. But it just seems
strange to me. And I mean, I can possibly spend
money bring a new sky dish up, but that doesn't work.
What happens then? And it just seems to me there's
an issue going on here that nobody seems to want

(38:36):
to explain.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Someone says, tell your mate with the sky reception, it's
the receiver part of the dish. We've gone through two
of these as they changed the supplier of this part.

Speaker 12 (38:49):
Come again, tell our mate with.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
The sky receptions the receiver part on the dish. We
have gone through two of these as they changed the
supplier of this part.

Speaker 7 (39:04):
Who do I sell that to?

Speaker 3 (39:06):
I don't know. This is not my this is not
my area.

Speaker 6 (39:11):
We had.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Someone says we had Someone said we had the same problem.
Needed to replace something on the dish that was faulty.

Speaker 7 (39:18):
Like it could be the censor box. Yeah yeah, but
I'm getting a reception during the day, so doesn't that
only things are working? God tells me that's my logic.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Yeah, but how's your David, how's your logic working out
for you?

Speaker 13 (39:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (39:38):
Well, as far as technology goes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
We're all teachable.

Speaker 7 (39:45):
Yeah. Well I'm seventy six. I'm having trouble.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Keep listening. Someone might have some Denise has got the
same David. Yeah, Denise's on the other line. She's got
the same issues as you. Okay, okay. Someone says, if
if this can't lissen any longer, pull then Denise, Denise,

(40:12):
it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 14 (40:14):
Oh hh you're Marcus. Yes, I have got exactly the
same problem as that, gentleman. But I also get it
in the morning, so I don't know. Now, see, my
TV's just shown a picture and it's gone off again.
But about six thirty seven o'clock at night, it disappears

(40:34):
and it comes up with no signal due to atmospheric conditions.
And that happens every night about six thirty seven o'clock,
and then again in the morning on the morning.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
How long has been going on?

Speaker 14 (40:47):
For about close to a week?

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Might better do with the solar event?

Speaker 5 (40:58):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (40:58):
Is there a solar event?

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yes, there is, there is a solar best solar ejection.

Speaker 14 (41:04):
Okay, don't know about that. I've rung them twice and
they didn't tell me that, so they probably don't know.
Mind you, I'm getting. I'm getting. I'm getting the Philippines,
not New Zealand, so.

Speaker 15 (41:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 14 (41:19):
They may not know about it, but I'm having the
same problem. I said to them. They said to me, oh,
we'll give you a you know, a reduction in the cost.
And I said, actually, I don't really want the reduction.
I want the TV on. I said that, you know,
I just want the TV fixed, and they said, well,
we'll we'll send a technician out on the twelfth of December.

(41:42):
I said, no, that's not happening. I want it a
lot sooner than that. I've got disability problems, so my
TV and I But I'm the same as the other gentleman.
Once it warms up in the morning, the whole day's fine.
About half seven o'clock, bang it goes off.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
How does your disability work with your Sky TV?

Speaker 14 (42:08):
Well, it's it's my TV. Because I've got a disability,
my TV is pretty important to me.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
I can't I think it's important. I think it's important
to Dave as well. To be fair, he seemed, you
see you said with your even with your disability. You
said to be coping better than Dave. Yeah, he's at
the end of his stay. That he was swearing and
he was, yeah, he was. He was desperate.

Speaker 14 (42:32):
Oh I'm a lady.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Yeah, but you know, I think I'm saying big ups
to you for coping so well with these, with your
extraordinary circumstances that life finds you in. I mean, you're
going for it.

Speaker 14 (42:43):
Yeah. No, I've rung them twice and they tell me
that they will give me a reduction in the price,
or you know, a discount, and I said, well, to
be honest, I just want the TV fixed. I'm not
worried about the discount. I want the TV fixed. I'm
paying for it, and I want the picture, you know,
So I don't I don't know what it is. And

(43:05):
of course they always asked if you've got a wife
or a black box. I'm not quite sure that what
the relevance is there.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Maybe maybe they're just checking, maybe they're just checking if
you're listening.

Speaker 14 (43:16):
Well, I think the white box has something to do
with the Internet. I've got a black one, so I'm
not sure.

Speaker 10 (43:22):
But I've done everything myself.

Speaker 14 (43:24):
I've taken the card out, I've turned it on and off.
I've rebooted it, I've done everything. Go you and yeah,
I thought, well I wasn't I wasn't keen to start with.
I thought, well, I've got to do something. But they
tell me that they've got me on you know, your
urgent list, whatever that is. But I can't understand why

(43:45):
it's got anything to do with atmospheric conditions. But you
seem to think there's a soul of thing, is it.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
I've got an idea, Denise. What's your favorite what's your
favorite channel?

Speaker 14 (43:59):
Sports?

Speaker 16 (44:00):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Yeah, you're at the Sport.

Speaker 14 (44:02):
Oh yeah, yeah. Fortunately it comes right about about eight
o'clock in the morning, so I'm all right for the
crooked I watched because I watch that, but I quite
like I like most channels, yes, but Sport I like.
I love the Sports.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Okay, well, keep listening to these because its Dan's been
inundated with helpful, helpful harries. I can't believe I said
helpful harries. Sorry about that, people. I'm going to give
up with the alliteration. I think it could will be
sun outage that the Sun's and the light the satellites
in alignment with the sun and the receiving place, so
it gets it gets confused. It can't distinguish with the

(44:42):
energy from the sun and from the communication signal, that's what.
And the Sun wouldn't line up with the satellite that often.
I think I probably need a diagram. I've been on
radio stations with this has happened, that they've got a
shonky a shonky frequency. That's why I believe it is

(45:03):
to do with the Sun's in alignment. But why am
I sky help desk now? Not even a shareholder. For
about one week each spring and another each fall, Solar
interference with satellites can cause interruptions in TV services. These

(45:25):
are called sun outages. As the Sun's path across the
sky is change each day, there's certain times when the
Sun is in a direct line behind a communications satellite
that is sending programming signals to receiving dish on Earth.
The effects can be most seen on most channels and
occur during various times of the day, lasting up to

(45:45):
fifteen minutes. You may experience short service interruptions, including sparkles
in the first days. Reception may gradual deteriorate to the
point of total outage, blocks or freeze frames. Freeze frame Richard,
it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 17 (46:02):
Yeah, hi there, Marcus. Nice to talk to you again.
I think there might be a simple explanation for some
of the interference problems for the sky customers. Often it's
to do with the trees that have grown a bit
taller over summer and spring, and then the leafs are
billed out. It creates a blocking signal if the trees

(46:24):
are overgrown in front of the sky dish, and that
creates the atmospheric pressure symptoms that the people are getting
on there on their TV. So the first thing to
check to serve the are any trees that are potentially
obstructing there satellite coverage, particularly if it's happening late or yeah,
late afternoon or early evening as the satellites are lower,

(46:46):
then the trees can can block the satellite. So that'd
be probably the first.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
And simplest thing to check, makes sense to me.

Speaker 17 (46:55):
I've had it before and exactly the issue that I
had and trim the trees and everything was good again.
So yeah, probably once to rolled out first. Anyway, best
cross of the boxing issue. Don't replace a tree diesel.
It's been a lot with technicians until he's headled around
the property.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Thanks very much, Richard Marcus. Satellite signals are literally electromagnetic
waves of weak signal strength during the evenings off when
you get moist layers of ear that become ionized, thereby
skewing and voting the signals that becomes undecipherable to the coder.
Sunspots also don't help. Gosh, we dodged a well there.

(47:29):
We could be talking about the flag. Oh, spare me days,
spare me. I'm surprised talk Back survived the flag referendum.

Speaker 13 (47:46):
Oh Marcus, I'm a vixerologist. If you don't know that,
someone that studies flags every single night again in our time,
probably do it online though they're referendum. Wouldn't you just
tick the one you like, you'd be good to go.

(48:07):
It's interesting with that story about alcohol, right, alcohol delivery.
One of the problems with alcohol delivery is how quick
it is. Like that's a problem because it means if

(48:28):
you're having a session and you want more booze, you
can get delivered right away.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
So that's like a negative thing and that interesting. There's
nothing on their website that says it's closed, says dining
room open. Tack twenty four hours tick pickup tick tic
tic tic tictick, I've got breaking news, breaking news, just
drove past McDonald's or people eating inside in the dark.

(48:57):
The golden arches are unlit. They are the end times.
This is a very good text. Someone's actually bothered to
spell things out. Low signal gets worse at night. Is
optus D two. The sky satellite is near the end
of its life, so it's having trouble staying in the

(49:17):
same spot. Eight eight eight is the test for the
backup set for situations like this. Geostationary orbit takes energy
to maintain the same location. Thrust is a running out
of gas. If your dish is not aligned correctly and
the satellite in space is drifting around its location, you
will lose signal from this. The other possibility is that

(49:40):
the LNB is getting confused and focusing on the backup
set at random times. This gives no signal as backup
has not yet been used. Interesting times ahead. Be patient,
it's just a little new zealand don't blame someone. Focus
on something positive and try to relax another way. Sky

(50:01):
Go Marcus sky TV issues with satellite feed. Those customers,
if they have a smart TV, could add the Sky
Go app to TV and use the app to get
sky Sport, et cetera. The app is free in a
good back up to the box. They will need their
login and foe to live in Skygo app, and they

(50:26):
need an internet connection land or Wi Fi. The TV
will manage both. Marcus, the six million dollar man is
worth forty million in a day's cash. I've got no idea.
What's the problem with the sky dish. I just want
to move Christmas. If you missed this, the MANAWANUI was

(50:49):
sunk human error. So there must have been a fire,
though was the fire before the autopilot forgotten where the
fire was? Was there a fire? I don't know where

(51:09):
the fire was actually because said there was a fire.
Oh maybe it struck a reef and then caught fire
and then it sunk. Autopilot reef, fire sunk. That's the
order of events. The ship's autopilot was not disengaged when

(51:33):
it should have been. The crew did not realize man
no WHENUI remained. An autopilot mistakenly believed that its failure
to respond to direction changes was the result of a
thruster control failure. YEP, having mistakenly assessed a thrust to
control fire. The standard procedure should have proved of the

(51:54):
ship's crew to check that the ship was under manual
control rather than autopilot. That check did not occur, remaining
in a part result on the ship maintaining a course
towards land until ground and offentionally stranding then sinking. And
I think, as everyone says, bad day at the office, yep, yep, yep,

(52:23):
eight hundred and eighty Tenny, my name is Marcus heddled
twelve tonight and the sky dish. Marcus, it's not the
sky Go app. It's the sky Sport now app that
works on certain TVs, not Skygo, which is only for mobiles, tablets,

(52:43):
et cetera. Marcus of the Manawanui was an autopilot. Why
is it human era Exactly. It seems like something wrong
with the autopilot because they're messing with the thrusters as well.
Probably Marcus having the same problem as other people. That rains,

(53:03):
TV goes off and no sigle appears on the screen,
very annoying. During a game of sport, I have a
white box, Marcus read the power outage at Green Lane
at Auckland Transport is advising that power is also at
Green Lane train station with all notice boards and ticketing

(53:26):
machinery down. Marcus sony procedures and protocols to fire these days,
that common sense just doesn't prevail. Health and safety gone mad, Rob.
The human era was them not knowing they had to
hold the autopilot button for three seconds situde it off.
I think that was for the ferry, not for the
Manawanui Marcus. Astronomers have worked out the day Jesus was

(53:47):
born nineteenth of August, so I'm all for changing it.
It was the Vatican that changed it for convenience to
Deceber twenty five, so I'll go the correct date, nineteenth
of August. John, you know what always saying, talkback if
anyone can, the Vatican can ten away from ten Steve Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 18 (54:08):
A different different THEREA On this sinking capsizing, there were
three containers on the deck. Now, normally without those it
was feely unstable anyway, but as it listed, those three
containers weren't lashed down properly and they moved and the

(54:29):
movement were working across the deck would of course that
just keep going. The fire was caused through the fact
that getting water into the electrics where he shouldn't have water.

Speaker 19 (54:42):
How did the three containers on the deck there were three,
there were there were two that were they were up
on the up on the reef. The three of them
were up on the reef after the sink. I think
two of them were empty. They weren't lashed down properly

(55:04):
because they should have gone down with it there as
they've moved. That just caused it to keep going. There's
a lot of flammable material there stairs and in a
below deck, and the mortar would have got in into
the electronics.

Speaker 18 (55:21):
And caused the fire as it just it just kept
rolling over. There's an unstable load on the deck. If
they've been left down properly, it may have come back.
We just leaned as he ran and ran into the reef.
And as you say, the auto ballot was still on,

(55:43):
just going. But this might light there anyway, because they
have recovered all three containers and there was up on
the reef. Yeah, they wouldn't be up on the reef
if they were properly left down, it'd still be on it.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
What was the best containers m hmm.

Speaker 18 (56:04):
Yeah, two of them. Two of them floated up onto
the reef and the third one was sort of half
full of provisions and it got washed up on the reef.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
One of the containers was empty.

Speaker 18 (56:18):
Two I think one or two were empty. If they
were last down properly, they wouldn't have moved. His low
becomes container ships. They've got to lash them down properly. Otherword,
ever had been losing them.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Nice to talk, Steve, Thank you and you might have
missed this. It's been around for what Australia has approved
the Social Media Band for under sixteens, twelve months before
it takes effect. YEP. It's not the first attempt globally

(56:59):
to restrict children's social media use, but the minimum age
of sixteen is the highest set by any country. YEP. Snapchat, TikTok, Facebook,
Instagram and x gaming and messaging platforms are exempt as

(57:22):
our sites as there are sites that can exist without
an account, meaning YouTube is likely to be spared, although
I think Trump's new camp cabinet or people in charge
are going to sort out YouTube. They're going to bring
in things. So it's just like a TV channel, you're
responsible for what goes out on it. So quite a

(57:45):
lot of challenges there about that as they try and
manage or regulate the wild West of YouTube. Good luck
to them for that. Just a quick question to your people.
I'm thinking about what's the worst talkback topic ever? Because

(58:05):
we had some pretty interesting ones this week with Gunda Guy,
Gunda Guy and the problems with in store merchandising and
the problems with the sky dish, and wonder what people
think is the worst togever, that's not the topic for tonight.

(58:28):
But I asked chet GPT and it wasn't very good.
It wasn't very clear. Kind of like the kid at school.
It doesn't really get it, chet GPT. They're kind of
not with the program. How's your skydish? What about these
people just said chill out? I mean most people something's

(58:50):
not working, they're gonta obsessed about it. Let it starts working.
That's human nature. There aren't many people that just walk
away from something. I was driving to town, yes, stand
a button came up in my car, Paul, do you
think i'd find where that button was? I'd bumped it accidentally.

(59:11):
I thought I must have bumped it with my knee.
I thought, I know, it's got like a picture of
a steep hill with a car on a steephill. I
got no idea what it is. I had to pull
over and go to the manual was down in the
middle by the gees stick. Knew I should have cleaned

(59:32):
the car and knew that was an extent waiting to happen.
I have no idea what the button's for. How are
you going out there listening in people? What's the worst
talkback topic ever? The one that drove you to distraction?
Because what we've had a few of them over the years.
I mean not ones that we had a few topic
talkback topics, but that flag debate was pretty significant in

(59:55):
terms of its repetitiveness. I think what makes a terrible
topic is one where you've got a lot of self
appointed experts who are only too happy to brag about
their credentials to comment on something and then boy you

(01:00:16):
to tears head on but no maname as Marcus welcome,
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine
two to text. It's been a good couple. It's actually
the first two word hours. It might have been patchy,
but went better than I thought. Moving Christmas, people want

(01:00:41):
to move it to August. Marcus Sky said I needed
a new white box. Skyboxes black Box too wild. It
worked for twenty five years. I have nothing at trouble.
Two texts been out of one hundred dollars. They've seen a
new box today, but we'll need help in stalling, and
I hope it works so well. I will cancel. Thanks
ray Lean, Well, I'll tell you what. Be careful if
you're canceled, because if you had Sky for a while

(01:01:03):
and you cancel it, there'll be nothing on. I turned
on Sky the other day was Van der Vork. Oh
goodness me, have they run out of things to play?
Van der Vork cheapers? They'd be fifty years old. Anyone
remember the theme to Van der Vork with one of

(01:01:25):
the great TV themes of all time? One of the
great themes of all time. I wish I could humme
it fantastic, fantastic bit of music, and I've got the

(01:01:47):
sheet the sheet music in front of me. Do not
that good at transcribing in my head. Tell listeners to
sign up with Sky Sport now cheaper than normal. Sky
don't need a box or a dish. It's the future

(01:02:08):
and works on myst Samsung and Panasong TVs. This is
really important. If they join that they save money and
the app can be astalled directly to the TV. No
more atmospheric issues, no more ugly dishes, and it's cheaper.
Don't think it has the movies. The movies are terrible.
I literally brought my TV brand Samsung, just to get

(01:02:30):
the Sky Sports Now app so I can watch the
Rugby World Cup without using a dish or doing weird
stuff like projecting them from my phone onto the screen.
You go into the app on the TV, like Netflix,
it's flipping amazing. Well, here's a text that says that
bloody Canadian ship? What's that about? What was it the
Edmond Fitzgerald surely not ban them. That button on your

(01:02:56):
car market it's for steep descent in four wheel drive.
We had the same problem with everyone calling me canceled
in the end. Don't miss it, never look back, Marcus.
How much ere do you put in a wheelbarrow tire?
I go thirty Marcus. Worst talkback topic was when you

(01:03:16):
spoke of cornflower. How you didn't get fired was beyond me.
What was that topic? When did we do? What was
the topic about cornflower? I think we've talked about cornflower, Marcus.
Sky's a wrought. I we can't see next week. Just
look at the share prices. Plus, don't stream onliners at buffers.

(01:03:43):
Anyone ring up and sing the Van der Ork theme.
Tune to me do? Actually, I could probably play it
from I've actually learned how to play music from here.
The Van de Ork theme was called eye level. I
just preview it to s efforts to what I'm thinking of.
It was a great TV show Van de Ork. I'll

(01:04:07):
trust these a bit, but went like this, I can't
work it anyway. That didn't work as well. It's going
to play ads dB. It's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 11 (01:04:22):
I'm self appointed extra it here listened to bore you
your tears.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Can I find what should be my what should be
my signal when I'm losing the will to live? But
I appreciate you pre judging this because it obviously going
to be quite a complicated explanation.

Speaker 11 (01:04:37):
Okay, I'm a deep sigh. We'll do it, and I'll
and I'll shut up. But to dispel the idea you're
one of your previous calls had the load shifted on
Manawanui and help to evolve over. I've just been looking
at her dimensions and stuff because I'm a bit of

(01:04:59):
a body. She can hang a thirty five ton container
off the side of her with her cranes and only
left five degrees. I don't think them moving on Beck
is going to exacerbate the sect that she's taking on
water in large amounts of tonnage.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
I agree.

Speaker 11 (01:05:22):
It just it greater on me that people think that,
you know, you've got to wait on some of these
bigger boats, it's going to they're going to fall over.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Agreed, they might.

Speaker 11 (01:05:34):
And the fire tom what I recollect I started in
the galley and it's probably hot oil spilling out as
she rolled, Okay, and it's apparently it's not uncommon.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Like on.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
The Perseidon Adventure.

Speaker 11 (01:05:58):
Yeah, beside, they turned her right upside down. That tends
to really make your day go bed.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
She fell down into the hot older and she was it?
Who was it? That was?

Speaker 11 (01:06:10):
She was a famous actress, famous. That wasn't happy Jake's.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
So that's what I wanted to say. That was the
first I want to say that that'd be stupid, Marcus,
That's that feels silly, But it did feel That's what
I would have said, and I.

Speaker 11 (01:06:27):
Think that might have been I may be you may
be correct on that. We may be correct on.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
That, but why would we think that? Because it was.

Speaker 11 (01:06:39):
I better do a Marcus down and and asked Google, no.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
You keep So what do you want to say about
the What do you want to say about shilly winters?

Speaker 18 (01:06:51):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (01:06:51):
It was yeah, okay, what do you want to say about?

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
What do you want to say about?

Speaker 7 (01:06:58):
Why?

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Why they didn't tear pilot?

Speaker 11 (01:07:05):
And this was a very human area really does come
into it. I've met a number of bastards that had
near misses because they either haven't turned off their autopilots
and had to maneuver the vessel and a hurry, and
then the vessels come back again because the autopilot's instrument
cater it I want you to follow this course, and

(01:07:25):
it tries to do that. So these people will start
using the bow thrushes. The autopilot thinks the wind or
the currents moving me off course. I will do my
best to do what I was told. The human era
was they didn't turn off the autopilot, but the arrataria
had an island on the south because somebody hadn't told

(01:07:51):
them you now hold the cut off, but for three seconds.
And like all big accidents and in aviation, it's called
the Swiss cheese effectors maritime. You light all those little
holes together and you have an accident.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
I was reading about the Swiss cheese yesterday in terms
of something what was that to do with?

Speaker 14 (01:08:13):
It?

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
Might have been an overseason magazine I was reading about that.

Speaker 11 (01:08:16):
Yeah, and lots of thisstle things have to line up
for the final accident to occur. All of how and
safety procedures, all of that is. The idea is to
stop the holes lining up for the accident to occur. Now,

(01:08:38):
I had a master tell me that with an auto pilot,
he would take away the seat behind the wheel running
on autopilot. The helmsman or the lookout must stand. And
I thought that was a good idea.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
That's a good work, right, I will do that. That's
good advice.

Speaker 11 (01:08:57):
Yeah, oh that was my hint for the day.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
Appreciate that A great deal, TV, Jody. It's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 20 (01:09:07):
Listen, Marcus. I'm driving along with my husband's whistling next
to the song and his head and I see wedding Marcus,
and he's right.

Speaker 14 (01:09:15):
In so here. I am running you so you really
you want to hear it?

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
He must be a great whistler. You've got a good
one there.

Speaker 17 (01:09:23):
Oh no, that's not.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
The nervousness of a jodey. I appreciate that, Thank you, Mark,
can you do bitter?

Speaker 12 (01:09:45):
Ah got goot a bit of a dry throat, sorry, vandervolt.
I believe that the lead actor was on Australian. I
can't remember his name, but I think he also had

(01:10:07):
a major part in a film called Von Ryan's Express.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
It's a good movie.

Speaker 12 (01:10:14):
Yes, uh, I hang on, I think it's I think
his first name was Berry something or other. Hello, are
you still there?

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
What was his name? Barry?

Speaker 16 (01:10:32):
Uh?

Speaker 12 (01:10:34):
Oh, I think his first name was Berry, you know,
b A R R Y. I'm pretty sure he was
actually Australian.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
I wonder how he ended up there because it says
it sounds like a Dutch name.

Speaker 12 (01:10:55):
Well, of course it played the part of a detective
in the Netherlands, but I think it was really, uh
a program put together by overseas interest.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Oh yeah, his name was Barry. His name was Barry Foster.
All right, Yeah, he's got Barry, right.

Speaker 14 (01:11:21):
Didn't you?

Speaker 12 (01:11:23):
Yes, from Nottinghamshire, Nottingham sure, Ah these so he so
he was saying Nottingham Sure, Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
Then wasn't he Well, there's no mention of him being
from Australia.

Speaker 12 (01:11:41):
Oh radio. Well, that's about all I can add for
you anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
It's good man, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
I think I sing for me.

Speaker 19 (01:11:47):
Do Do Do Do Do Do?

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Nottingham Shire. I don't know. Did he have a superpower?

Speaker 12 (01:11:58):
Van de Voork.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
I can't fully remember the plot as an Amsterdam Yeah,
a cynical yet intuitive, intuitive detective drug sex and murder,

(01:12:22):
among the gritty themes of the casework presented in contrast
to the pictureresque locations and the upbeat theme music. We
can put a line under that I've never known such
upbeat theme music. I feel for the people who skidish
just fineling and they can't see van der work because
they were running it at the moment. I don't even
know what channel it was on. I just heard the

(01:12:44):
Do Do Do Do Do. I was kind of surprised
to see what happened to the music and passengers at Nelson.
What a chamozzle that was? Actually, what's up with the
in New Zealand? Sort it out? They were on a
flight to christ Church and it got diverted to Nelson, Yeah,

(01:13:12):
and they had terrible flight. I don't know where they
originally sourced from. Oh it was supposed to fly from
Dunedin to christ Church, but because a terrible weather was
diverted to Nelson. It was how it was the bumpiest

(01:13:35):
flood I've ever had. The plane was sideways. It was
the most horrendous thing. They all ended up at Nelson
Airport and they got off the plane. It took two
to three hours to get everyone sorted and fifteen were
left with no accommodation, so hanging in the in the airport.

(01:13:57):
At midnight, a security guard announced everyone needed to leave.
We're asked to get outside on the concrete to sleep.
No contingency apparently, so there. That seems like a shamozzle

(01:14:20):
long day for them. I don't know why the to
go back to Duneed and that would have been easier
or timid, quiteering Bobbitt's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 15 (01:14:28):
Yes, good evening, Marcus. So I just heard a while
ago you you mentioned about the bit about the Manueni
sinking in a Sentrum report. Yes, I'm ex Navy, spent
many years in it and I'm quite sad about what's happened.
But I must commend the Navy in the ad On
being so open and upfront about actually what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
Yeah, I thought he came across extremely well.

Speaker 15 (01:14:54):
He did, and it must have been very hard for him.
I've spent, as I say, spent many years in the
Navy and listened to that report. And I remember, you
know a few months ago when the end of Islander
went went aground and coming out of Picton, she took
her turn to the turn to starve and ran up

(01:15:14):
in the league and I retoring to something mates never
happened with the Navy, and exactly exactly what happened. They
were doing that grid search, as it said anything. They
were doing grid search and obviously using auto pilot, but
they wanted to change course and forgot to take it
out of autopilot. And it's purely that's an administration. It's

(01:15:36):
a pure basic bridge function. The question I heard asked
was who was on the bridge supervisors and things. But
the question I waited to be asked where was the captain?
And that was never answered. So whether the captain was
on the bridge at the time, we don't know. I mean,

(01:15:57):
it will come out in the fullness of time. But
it's a basic They were operating in restricted waters and
me in my time, and when you operated in restricted waters,
you had your what we call specialcy gtamen. They were
the top team, the top person for on the helm,

(01:16:19):
the top person the navigator, the captain, and the people
controlling because they were in very tight waters. Although the
ship is different, it doesn't have a rudder, it has
asimuth controllers, so it has two levers, one port, one
star and you you xe, the controlling officer actually drives

(01:16:39):
the ship with these two little joysticks. But when they
wanted to change course, it was a basic and you
saw in that report by the Admal he pointed it out.
You had to lift this plexigath cover where the autopilot
was to press it either in or out, you know,
press it on, understand or press it out to turn

(01:17:00):
it off. And they forgot to do it. So hence
when they tried to operate the ship manually or it
did was increase the power in the direction, going from
six knots to over ten knots when it run ashore.
That's a basic training mistake. I don't know how it happened, Bob.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
Yep, just in terms of we know what would happen
to something like that if it was in your civilian job,
you would but probably go through a disciplinary process and
something is the navy because of the importance of the navy,
is there are there different courts and things that those
people would go through and face.

Speaker 15 (01:17:41):
Oh yes, oh yeah, absolutely, Now tell me about that.
The inquiry will still go on, but as the admiral mentioned,
there will be now another side of it, the discipronary
side of it. I have no doubt that the captain
and probably the other officers are the navigator on the
office of the watch, on the bridge, they will all

(01:18:03):
in due course be caught martialed.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
And now tell me what that means.

Speaker 15 (01:18:07):
Well, it's it's a naval court. It will determine the
guilt and the the length of the guilt to what
they did or you know, was it reasonable in a
circumstances or why didn't they do? I mean, basically, it's
the same as a court of law, but it's under
under military law jurisdiction.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
As under military law. So what would be the could
they have go to the brig could they go to
what could happen to them?

Speaker 15 (01:18:35):
I think the ultimate Well, I would be pretty safe
in saying now that the captain of the ship will
never get another command.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
Yes, but are there are there more? And we don't
want to be too prejudicial because obviously they've got fear
process and no one knows yet apart from the autopilot.
But are they more tougher consequences in the forces than
in civil life?

Speaker 15 (01:19:05):
I think the affair in military law can be even
more severe than in civil life. What so, what could
happen to you be dismissed the service dismissed her ship.
I mean, and I've said, and I'm not getting gender
in this. This is purely a fair a quality control

(01:19:25):
the person in charge, because in the Navy, the buck
stops at the captain.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
Yeah, so there's no way, there's no way that, There's
no way the captain is not respond is not responsible
for the autopart, not even if they weren't on the bridge.

Speaker 15 (01:19:40):
Absolutely, even if the ship was alongside in some port
and something happened and the captain was away on leave,
the captain is still responsible. That is how they have
amazing authority. They also have amazing responsibility.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
And that's first first first ship the Navy sunk since
World War Two.

Speaker 15 (01:20:05):
Unfortunately, Yes, but no, it's a sad indictment on a name,
and I do I put it down to training. In fact,
I read something on a Navy Facebook because this ship
was surveying, and we've had many survey ships like the
Lachlan and the Matawai that have done this for many,
many years, and they had some very qualified with In fact,

(01:20:28):
the most highly qualified ship handlers that are aware of
the Navy were the surveyors.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
So why do you say it was a training mistake
because they weren't trained about the autopilot?

Speaker 15 (01:20:41):
Well, they well, as training may not be the right word,
but basically a competency. How familiar were they, I mean
this person being in command of the ship for nearly
two years, I understand so, but it was such a
basic mistake. There must have been standard operating procedures on
the bridge that when something went wrong, what does the

(01:21:02):
list of open the book and what's the thing? What
as we take auto pilot? The auto pilot off? And
as Edwald said, they never checked the autopilot.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
Lovely to hear from you, Bob, Thank you so much. Wow, Wow,
what a call. Hello, David's Marcus.

Speaker 21 (01:21:18):
Welcome kill Marcus. After that last call, mate, they I
was working over dry Docks and Devenport around about the nineties.
I think I remember them one a WHI I remember
the the endeavored the supply ship the Canterbury, and that

(01:21:40):
big old Sir Charles upp And was around there at
the same time. These ships, mate, that last caller was right.
They don't look like they have any problem at all
with a few containers hanging off the side. I also
worked at at Southdown Fake Terminal and funny Foot container's

(01:22:03):
way about four times, one and a half time. Yes,
so it'll take a good twenty ton to even move
a ship over on towards side that biggest ship, that
big Ye. Just that's all I wanted to say anyway, Mate.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
Really appreciate that, Dave, thanks for coming. Yeah, I don't
think it's surprising the ship's on the bottom. I mean,
how right into the reef. It's speed and caught fire.
Be surprised if we was still upright. But yes, the
court of talkback has spoken Marcus, well done, Bob, absolutely
correct and absolutely is all in capitals. It doesn't matter

(01:22:38):
who how manew we end up on the rocks. The
buck starts and stops with the captain. Marcus. Love it
when you get a really knowledgeable speaker who knows his stuff.
Here here to the X Navy man. You should probly
get an X Navy man to do talkback would be good.
Wouldn't it cut through? Wouldn't it X Navy here?

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
What don't I know?

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
One's ever made the made the journey from the services
to talk back radio. Could add some sort of precision,

(01:23:27):
precision and definitiveness to the medium. Anyway, just thinking aloud,
how you're going people, what's happening where you are? Just
look at those pictures they're restored, not to the darm
Cathedral and front boy they restored that seems quickly? Was
that fire before the christ Church Cathedral was damaged? Just

(01:23:51):
trying to work out which was a quicker restoration, because
that just seems to be extra. I can't work out
was quicker or longer than that?

Speaker 11 (01:23:58):
Someone?

Speaker 6 (01:23:58):
Or no?

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
Anyway? Oh wait eighty ten eighty nine nine to detext
Susie Hi, Susie.

Speaker 20 (01:24:07):
Marcus. I kept on getting notification from Sky if I
wanted to go get that new white box, and they
run them up and said no, because apparently if you
get it the programs that you've already recorded, you'll lose
them and I'm not prepared to lose them yet.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
Because you haven't watched how many of your got what
are they?

Speaker 13 (01:24:31):
Oh?

Speaker 20 (01:24:31):
Just ones that used to be on Channel three at
lunchtime a couple of years ago, make real good stories
like thrillers and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
What ones?

Speaker 20 (01:24:39):
I like The Other Mother and the Party from Hell
and all those ones? Good sneaky ones when someone get
sneaky in the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
The Party from Hell, the Other Mother and the Party
from Hell. Okay, because you need a VHS.

Speaker 20 (01:24:58):
Well you mean a video player?

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Well yeah, if you want to go back and keep
watching them.

Speaker 20 (01:25:03):
Yeah, I've got a video player. I'm just actually can
did that about two weeks ago to watch some of
my old videos.

Speaker 15 (01:25:09):
Marcus.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
I wonder how you get Party from Hell and the
Other Mother and stuff from your skybox onto vhds so
you can watch them when you need.

Speaker 14 (01:25:16):
Because oh, no, I know, yeah, I know what you mean.

Speaker 20 (01:25:19):
But I said to them, if I see if I
do get the white boxed, I hear him who installed it?
And they said, Marcus, where you instare it? And if
you can't install it cost one hundred dollars to be installed.
It's ridiculous, isn't it. So I'll stay with the black
boxes as long as I can.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
The other mother, what was your other recommendation?

Speaker 20 (01:25:41):
And the party from hell?

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
Brilliant? I saw in American Edward talking about our ships singing.
His point of remark was that no American ship would
go in anyone ear a reef because I would use
remote controlled device and drones for insured survey work cowards.
Does our navy have that type of equipment? Cedric? Very

(01:26:05):
good question, Ridge, Marcus.

Speaker 7 (01:26:08):
Welcome y Gray Marcus.

Speaker 15 (01:26:11):
That not to dom fire was April with fifteenth, two
thy and nineteen.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
For goodness sake, they did that quickly.

Speaker 7 (01:26:21):
Yeah, five years.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:26:24):
I just looked it up on.

Speaker 15 (01:26:28):
Mister Google.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Wow.

Speaker 15 (01:26:31):
And that's what he told me.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
Sheep has Ridge appreciated that. Thank you, Don Marcus. Good evening, Yes, good.

Speaker 7 (01:26:38):
Evening, Marcus.

Speaker 5 (01:26:39):
I'm still talking about Erebus.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Are you aware of the back the book Impact Erebus?

Speaker 12 (01:26:50):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Oh you know about that?

Speaker 15 (01:26:52):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
I'm an intimate listener, so I wasn't sure if you
couldn't go.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
There was a more recent book I'm trying to recall
that was all about the data and what happened with
the data. Did you read that book?

Speaker 6 (01:27:05):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
I didn't and about the transposition of the data, and
it was a more deep dive into that. And I
can't think it was a podcast or a book that
I read about that, but it was extraordinary.

Speaker 18 (01:27:16):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
No, well, I'm glad you've got Gordon Vetti's book, and
it's the best one about it. It's the only one
I'm aware of about the impact. My wife was actually
booked on that for her birthday and because she got
sequally transferred the booking to a year in advance, and
of course the plane crashed and.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
She never went.

Speaker 12 (01:27:42):
No, no, neither of U have gone.

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
Yeah, no, I appreciate that, Carl. I's spend quite a
lot of time last night reading about a lot of
the other information subsequently from that, And I think that
might be when I was reading about the Swiss cheese theory,
like dB was going on about. It was a combination
of things obviously both Oh it's too complicated, But anyway,

(01:28:09):
I appreciate you coming through there. Don do you want
to talk on here? We're getting ready for the Hour
of power people, marcause I sent an email to Sky
to consel my sport. Now my Sky's put now. The
email came back not delivered three times, then they took
the next month subscription out of my account. No one
likes them much do they? Mainly for tonight I talked

(01:28:33):
about moving Christmas. Does anyone think we'd be happy with
Christmas in August? Just don't get taken too seriously. Is
it a good idea or a bad idea? How good
and how bad? Give it a rating out of ten.
I've suppily made some very good cases for moving Christmas
in America. I think Christmas and Thanksgiving it too close

(01:28:54):
together because they're important family holidays, so I wouldn't mind
a winter Christmas. They reckon Jesus was born in August
because the calendar has been that was a Julian calendar.
I've got the Augustus calendar or the Gregorian calendar. So yeah,
I look, and as I say, I don't get angry

(01:29:16):
about this. We're not saying that the birth of Jesus
is less of an event. We're just saying let's celebrate
celebrate the birth of Jesus and having a time that
suits everyone. I'm sure people would be really freaked out
by this. I'm just into the discussion. So we are

(01:29:37):
talking about that and the Manawa nui.

Speaker 11 (01:29:43):
What was it?

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
What's the main topic being tonight? Dan our sky dishes?
Good evening, Danielle. It's Marcus. Welcome of rewarm welcome? Am
I on here?

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Am I you are on here?

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Now?

Speaker 18 (01:29:59):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:30:00):
Dear lord?

Speaker 16 (01:30:01):
Okay, I that was not really okay Marcus.

Speaker 3 (01:30:05):
Do you're not want to be on here?

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
No?

Speaker 16 (01:30:09):
No, I'm happy to speak with you. I actually am
in are of you.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
Oh that's nice.

Speaker 16 (01:30:16):
Yes, I have an affinity within Chicago because I was
very blessed to do my postgraduate diploma through s I
T for free.

Speaker 14 (01:30:31):
Wow.

Speaker 16 (01:30:33):
Yes, and what a nurse?

Speaker 6 (01:30:37):
How you go you?

Speaker 12 (01:30:39):
Yep?

Speaker 16 (01:30:41):
Anyway, I would like to speak with you about security
around your Facebook.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
Oh god, okay sure.

Speaker 16 (01:30:55):
So my my, uh my child, my middle child is
at Southern Girls.

Speaker 19 (01:31:05):
She is on a.

Speaker 16 (01:31:10):
Well yeah, scholarship because she's an amazing netballer and she
had the opportunity to go to Southern Girls. Now she's
coming to me and saying people can access me, mummy,
my Facebook page and they're bullying her now with pictures

(01:31:33):
that they can find on my Facebook page. Okay, so
now I have gone through all my security blah blah
blah blah blah, and there's only so many places in
I don't know the world. I don't know. I don't

(01:31:55):
know what it is with Facebook. I cannot lock my profile, okay,
so why can I not do it here in New Zealand?
What's happening?

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
That's beyond my scheme? But she should not be getting bully.
Isn't it a matter for the school to sort out?

Speaker 14 (01:32:20):
No?

Speaker 16 (01:32:20):
No, no, But I'm what I am saying. I want
your listeners to to maybe give me feedback on how
how can I lock my profile?

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
Okay?

Speaker 16 (01:32:32):
Facebook profile?

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
I will find out Daniel Danielle wants to lock her
Facebook profile? How can she do that? Brilliant That's a
good question. So keep listening, Daniel, We'll find out for you. Lindsey.
It's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 5 (01:32:46):
I'm Margus. Interesting program last night on the Erebus.

Speaker 3 (01:32:51):
I think I think interesting would be an understatement. It
was compelling.

Speaker 5 (01:32:57):
Wells, then, did anyone mention there is a documentary called
The Aarth to Mars.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
Yes, I think people did. I think people talk about
the podcast and documentaries and all sorts of stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:33:11):
Because I watched it today and I just couldn't believe
what happened all the way through the lies, the destroying documents.
It's just amazing to watch it, and I would ask
other people if they're interested, to google it and watch
it over the weekend. It's three hours.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
Long because we are close to corruption and obfuscation and
we're there towards it, including government departments.

Speaker 5 (01:33:42):
True, it was amazing to watch. I just couldn't believe it.
The Old Boys Network, just.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
People saving, just people covering their backsides, true.

Speaker 12 (01:34:00):
And I was.

Speaker 5 (01:34:02):
I just recommend that people google it up and watch
it over the week ten.

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
Erebus The Aftermath. It's old now. It was an eighty seven,
so it's been I'm going to go thirteen thirty seven
years old.

Speaker 5 (01:34:18):
Here, so that's what I'm going to say.

Speaker 3 (01:34:25):
Where'd you find it?

Speaker 5 (01:34:27):
I just googled it, Google it up, just typed erabus
the after math, after.

Speaker 3 (01:34:35):
Math and up a come was it on YouTube?

Speaker 5 (01:34:40):
YouTube?

Speaker 11 (01:34:40):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
Goodness?

Speaker 5 (01:34:43):
Three years long?

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
Goodness, And there's probably been development since then. I suggest to.

Speaker 5 (01:34:50):
Lindsay, I's probably here, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
Those poor families having to have lost loved ones, and
often in situations where they brought them presents and gave
them then trip and then having to sit through years
and years and years of just rubbish, and that whole
time knowing that something wasn't quite right. For goodness sake,

(01:35:17):
they were going to go to the Privy Council.

Speaker 5 (01:35:20):
Yes, it's just amazing, and they're all digital and actors.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
Yeah, that's neither head nor there is it. I suppose.

Speaker 16 (01:35:35):
What what what?

Speaker 14 (01:35:35):
What?

Speaker 5 (01:35:36):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
What other actors would you get?

Speaker 5 (01:35:41):
True?

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
I think Roy Billing is Gordon Vetti?

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
Is that right?

Speaker 5 (01:35:47):
I can't remember that. I was just I have to
go through it again.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
I'm pretty sure that's the way it is.

Speaker 5 (01:35:54):
Yeah, what are Marcus?

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
Tremendous? Thank you?

Speaker 19 (01:35:59):
Do do do do do do do do do?

Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
Uh m hm.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
Twenty fifth of December is when Jesus was born, Marcus.
Not true, but that's when we celebrate it. But other
countries celebrated on different days. Marcus. I know this is
off tonight's topic, but I am in these days of
rising costs, I just say I stunned to see packings
save it more. Howes they have Christchurch today selling Australian

(01:36:29):
brand SPC baked beans for one center can a limit
of ten per customer. I wondered what would happen if
someone brought one to four cans and you can only
play with cash. Would the beans be free or would
you have to pay a minimum of ten cents? What
a great question, Tom, Tom you might be ready for

(01:36:51):
your own podcast with questions like that. It's an extremely
good question. Oh, the Christmas parade tomorrow. You can spot
my children in one of the floats tomorrow. I'm not
saying which one. We've always got one child, not on
a float, but beside a float. This is the inver

(01:37:13):
Cargo Christmas Parade. The Bluff Christmas Parade I think is
next week. Oh yeah, no, it's just the best. The
Bluff one's tremendous, one of the gray. It's like everyone
is in the parade that everyone watches the parade go past.

Speaker 9 (01:37:31):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
Every year, I say I'm going to put in a float.
Never done it, Marcus. Can you sell an argument? Why
do a lot of the radio jingles sound like they
are sung by the same woman? Is there one agency
that things them all? Thanks? What commercials are you suggesting? Crown?

(01:37:54):
There is nothing like a crown for lifting it up
and putting it down. Or the White Tomo jingle, or
hyper Dry or driving Miss Daisy or Sand and Water World.

(01:38:19):
They're all sung by different people. I can't think of
two jingles that the same by the same person. Or
is it diamond fusion, don't spend an hour cleaning the shower?

Speaker 16 (01:38:34):
Do it?

Speaker 3 (01:38:35):
What's the next time?

Speaker 5 (01:38:36):
Do it with?

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
Do it in a minute with diamond fusion, don't spend
an hour cleaning the shower. I think it's been the
year of the jingle. There's been some greats and sometimes
I think, well, the talkback has been of it boring.
I know, well, at least they've got the jingles. Sometimes
you've got the Crown and you've got sand in water World,

(01:38:59):
you've got driving Miss Daisy, You've got pitt and sure
what's the car tire?

Speaker 11 (01:39:10):
One?

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
That hyperdrive that's hyper drive, Hi hyper drive. And Southland
we've got some great jingles. Good rules for happy feet,
all lay or lay with the Purple car, Phoenix Services

(01:39:35):
one stop Phoenix Services, one stop. Southland District Council working
better for a better Southland. It's a beautiful jingle that
one Waxies. You come to Waxes for dinner, you come
to Waxies for lunch. Oh yeah, I think we're having
in a golden age of jingles. If I was a

(01:40:00):
radio sales rep. I'd actually be really going with the
jingle because theyre the ones you want, because basically in
the cargo in the same business has been around for
fifty years. You think of something and he just starts
singing the jingle. Although Rogerson's Footwear that closed this week
Rogerson's Footwear, I can't remember the jingle actually.

Speaker 12 (01:40:20):
Very hard.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
I don't think there be any independent shoe shops left anymore.
I think when Rogerson started there was about eight. A
very good interview with them in the paper. Mister Rogerson,
I mean, you're limited to how many interesting stories you
can talk about a shoe having run a shoe shop.

(01:40:43):
I think once he chased a guy around town that
had stolen his shoe. It'd been there for eight decades, Rogerson's.
It was Pickford's football used to be made in New Zealand,

(01:41:06):
but imported shoes made by chip Labor. Deeply in back
to the sector. When I came in here there were
five suburban shoe shops and that did include the seven
right that would be in town. Online sales have affected
the market. He said he couldn't sell his shoe shop.
You can't sell a shoe shop for love nor money.

(01:41:26):
Young ones don't want to get into retail and the
supply chain. Starting the traders of seventeen year old work
to Dahan Jays after experimenting on other vacations for Sinkly
so they decided he wanted to get back to shoe
salls and bought the shop of Lez Rogerson, who owned
it for thirty years. Chasing a shoplifter around the city

(01:41:47):
streets in his car during the pre mobile phone days
was a memory that had stayed with mister Sinclair. I
had to follow them through all these streets, but of
course still I had to leave them, come back here
and report in. Another was finding a pair of old
jannels inside of box went for new shoes that were
no longer there. And that's the anecdotes from a guy

(01:42:08):
that's been in shoes since nineteen eighty nine that had
a great jingle. Orcas have started wearing dead salmon on
their heads again for the first time since ninet eighty seven.
No one seems to know why. It's a good text.
Twenty to twelve, I just googling up about Takaha the

(01:42:29):
new stadium for christ Church. What a great name, but
six point eighty three million for covered stadium. But what
is interesting is it's going to be cashless. Now, I
would have thought that you'd want that to be a

(01:42:51):
stadium that you could embrace cash. So what would have
they done that. I've never heard anyone speaking or saying
we want a stadium that's cashless. That might be a
bit of a Missy's got any comments about that? Or

(01:43:19):
is cash and christ change on its way out? What
about the menu? Sorry, you won't get sushi. Rice doesn't
grow and can to bring the stadium's food and drink
operator venues. Altatahi is committed to sourcing ninety percent of
its produce from the region, So you won't get Burrito's,

(01:43:42):
Baharani or jambalaya either. You'll get premium burgers, fish and chips,
artisan pizza and pasta, but it'll all be cashless. Pick
your battles. Wow, anyway, this is taka so yep, and

(01:44:16):
you can't take single use plastic cups. Oh well, maybe
people want it cashless. I wouldn't have thought so.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
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