I think it's more of a lifestyle thing (24 February 2025)

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Night's podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be oh, greetings and welcome. I hope it's good
for you. Are mynam's Marcus Huddle, twelve o'clock greetings, Good evening,
eight oh seven. A lot to talk about tonight, obviously,
and many topics shall be discussed. We'll go with one
of those block as some as your ears get blocked?

(00:32):
What's that about? I I can hear you have to
turn the things up anyway? The old blocked there? Eh, yeah,
I knew I probably should get done something about it. Anyway,
that won't be a problem. I have to get the
old Yeah, I should have done that today anyway. Welcome.

(00:55):
My name's Marcus Huddle, twelve o'clock. Much to talk about.
I'm not even quite sure which order to stagger the topics,
I guess if that's the right word. And a very
good weekend, actually very good, very good weekend. Finally got

(01:16):
up to Lake at Marion, which I hadn't been up
to before. It's a good walk up there. From the
Hollyford Road up to guns Camp, you walk up to
a lake which is one of those hanging valley lakes.
That's very much up in the Darren Mountains near Field. Oh,
very good, very good. A lot of people are walking

(01:36):
a lot of people, a lot of them with sticks.
I don't know what that's about, but anyway, a lot
of people in that fitness gare they were you underwear?
What they do for pockets? Don't you?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
That fitness gear anyway, So there we go. I'll tell
you more about that was a very very interesting weekend.
Even saw the Lead Zip movie extraordinary. Gee, that's good.
Well I saw most of it. I was with my

(02:11):
eleven year old and I think about hapass. We went
to the movies, but there was an intermission so by
about halp pass eleven heat any one to go? So
I missed the last half. Albert, Gee, it was good.
Cheer is good. Anyway, they're all in quite good. Neck
to the members of Lead Depp. Those are still alive. Anyway.
If you haven't seen that movie, it's with the directory

(02:34):
famous director. We certainly hadn't covered some very good old
concert footage of the formative members of the band. So yeah,
it's a I forget what it's called, but g it's good.
So putting that out there, mind you you think about
lead Zepp led Zeppelin when they formed nineteen sixty seven,

(02:55):
they were the Yardbirds. It's almost sixty years ago. Yeah,
so that's a long time ago for the music still
to sound kind of relevant. When I started thinking about
music and listening to music sixty years earlier. Well, you wouldn't,

(03:17):
would you anyway. So the question I've got for you
tonight is not about Lake Marion and it's not about
a led Zeppelin. I got a question for you that
I think you might be able to answer, and I
don't even know how to phrase the question. We will
talk about Andrew Bailey also too. He's the loser guy

(03:39):
that did DL with his forehead. He's going to remain
the MP for Portato. So I don't know if people
are excited about that, because basically I've been fired from cabinet.
You're pretty much a You're pretty much a lame duck.
But people might want to say something about that. So
my question for you. Here we go so driven from

(04:07):
Bluff each day and there's been roadworks for three weeks.
This is State Highway one. There's an intersection where a
t WI turn off goes and they are redoing the
roads and they're doing a really good job of it,
and it's taking a long time. My question for this

(04:28):
is State Highway one, bearing in mind that's gone through
a swamp, so probably it's a problematic section of road.
But what I want to ask to those people involved
with road construction what takes so long? Because it seems
as though part of the process of making a road

(04:50):
is you kind of dig it all up and then
you put gravel on it, and then is part of
the process to have cars going back and forwards on
it for two weeks? Is that part of the compression process.
I don't think anyone understod because I think and when's
the ash felt? When are they coming down? When they
put to put the bitchermen on? That's happening today. But

(05:10):
before you put the bitchermen on, man, there's a lot
of frigging around because you've got the diner what do
we always called them? The Dindi rollers are not those
and they're the graders. But they go on for weeks
and then cars drive along the road. What are they
doing that whole time? Are they testing? Are they waiting
for pits to form? Are they checking? If anyone's involved

(05:33):
with road construction, I'm fascinated because everyone thinks they're an expert.
I've got no idea what they're actually doing. There was
a guy there for a while, Edie Us had some
compressing thing that was checking how condensed the road was,
I think, But if anyone's involved in road construction, I'd

(05:53):
be very curious to know what the process is. Got
no idea, and a lot of you will be roadies
and you'll have done it and you can tell me
exactly what's happening, because I have no clue what is
happening out there for all those weeks. Because you think
it'll be a two day job. They'd come through, smash

(06:15):
up the old road, put some dirt down, some gravel down,
compact and then put the bitchamen on. There doesn't seem
to be the situation at all. So if you've got
some information on that that i'd like to start with,
be very interested. Oh eight hundred and eighty first aall
the crickets at ten. Yeah, So I'll keep you updated

(06:42):
with that throughout the course of the evening. Any other
news that happens, any other MPs or ministers resign, I'll
let you know about that. Don't get sacked now they
choose to resign themselves, not when he called the guy
the loser, but the other one anyway. Marcus, New Zealand's

(07:02):
biggest pack and safe opens in the Highland Park tomorrow
after twenty eight years of legal obstruction by countdown. The
people of how it will be voting with their dollars.
I imagine would be interesting enough people start cuing for
this sort of thing. Regards mark breaking news in Hastings.
The first person to announce their running for me this

(07:24):
year is called Marcus. Goodness, greetings, my name is Marcus.
Welcome eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Someone said those
with sticks will be TA walkers. No they won't be,
because that wasn't where the tech that. This was well
beyond the TA trail. This was almost up by Milford Sound,
up near the Hollyford. But if you're involved with road construction,

(07:46):
let me know how that works and what you do.
What's the plan? Why does it take two weeks? It's
not a criticism. I just want to know what they've
got to do because everyone's next. But everyone says about
cones and about all the road works and stuff, but
no one actually knows what the whole purpose is love

(08:09):
to hear from you on a comment on that. Marcus
tom Mid eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine nine two
dis will be updating you on youth throughout the course
of the next four hours. What there does I don't
know because we haven't got worked out what it is yet.
There's a cruise ship with a neuro virus on board.

(08:33):
They suspected norovirus. Outbreakers had a European cruise rolling and
people throwing up in restaurants on dicks outside cabins. Passenger
told Sky News travers was dropping like flies. Even the
entertainment has been adversely effected with many of the schedules
I'm able to perform and replaced with a cobbled together

(08:53):
entertainment program to plicate the guests. The ship has five
thousand passengers. What's the town an eighteen hundred crew? What's
a town with seven thousand people? Can't think what it is,
But it's like that on a ship. It's like esh

(09:13):
Burton on a ship. Of course, you got a ship
that's got norovirus. It's gonna spread everywhere because people get
seasick as well. Terrible, but fancy a ship containing seven
thousand people. It's a lot, isn't it. We're my road
work friends. To tell me the answer to that. Get
in touch, Marcus Till twelve oh eight hundred and eighty

(09:35):
ten eighty nine nine text looking forward to what you've
got to say. Massive ship it's called Iona, which I
think is an island of Scotland and not a Greek god.
But still, how do we make the roads? What happens?
What do they do for all those days? What's all

(09:55):
the compression must have been done very gradually or something?
You have comments, you have thoughts on this stuff? Will Marcus?
Welcome and good evening.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Hi Marcus the first time caller. We're a long time
listener and I've sent a few texas.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Oh nice to hear from Stone.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Yeah, I'm a civil engineer. Afore I'll put you out
of your mystery and explain a bit what's happening.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
Of those roads?

Speaker 6 (10:22):
Right?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Thank you so much?

Speaker 4 (10:24):
If no problem. If I take it from the top
of the surface, you get this rough black surface, and
that can be in the shape of two things. In
the cities they normally use what they call asphalt, which
is typically twenty five millimeters or thicker, and it's a
combination of black tar and small stone chips. Yes, Now

(10:49):
in rural areas they use a much cheaper mefford which
is called chip seal. So they put on a very black,
sticky tower surface sprayed from a black of a Benjamin truck.
In the top of that, they top small stones typically
twelve millimeters in diameter on top of that, which sticks

(11:12):
to the black bitchamen and then they allow the cars
to ride over it to embed it into the beachmen
and the excess stones get swept away.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
So that's a surface. Yeah, what happens before that? To
that stage? That takes so long? What's yeah?

Speaker 4 (11:29):
So what's below your below your black sort of covering.
So the covering provides friction for your tires and waterproofness
so that the road is waterproof. Below that, you've got
two very strong layers. The first one below the black
stuff is called a base course, and that's made our

(11:51):
very strong, well graded stones typically twenty minimeters diameter and smaller,
and this gets compacted to a very high density to
make it very strong, and that's a base course. So
below that you've got another layer also typically one fifteen
meters sick, and that's called the sub sub base, a

(12:15):
sub base is a weaker material, cheaper and gets compacted
less dense because it doesn't have to be so strong.
And then below that you basically just have compacted soil
of a good quality. So the whole thing is flexible,
elastically flexible. So when a truck rides over it, it

(12:37):
sort of gifts, but it bounces back to its original level,
So it's called a flexible pavement. And it's all designed
for the trucks because they've got no effect on it.
It's a truck loading that it gets designed for. So
each layer takes quite a few days to construct, and
once it's laid uncompacted, it undergoes a vigorous testing for

(13:03):
density to make sure it's achieved quiet density and that
takes a couple of days.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
So with the construction, the construction is just compacting and
having the heavy roller over it and back and forward
and then looking for looking for irregularities and filling those
And is that what they need to do.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, it must be accurate to a very accurate level.
That's why the users be graded machines to a very
accurate level for smoothness and so to two things. For
material has to be the right material for right grading,
and it has to be compacted to the right compaction
before the next layer is put on in a similar fashion.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
And it seems as though it's okay for cars to
drive over those base layers or is that part of
the compacting process that.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Is just to minimize the traffic delay.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Okay, So that's neither here nor there were the cars
going over it.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
No, No, it will just add a bit to a compaction,
so it's actually an added benefit.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
And what happens to fu of this wet weather.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
Well, wet weather, so once the road is bolt, the
black ceiling top keeps it water tight and the water
runs off to the side and it doesn't affect the
layers underneath. If you if you get wet weather while
you are busy building the road, you have to allow
it to dry out adequately before you can proceed, which

(14:33):
can cause quite a significant delay, especially for putting down
the black tar seal layer. It can't go on a
wet surface. It has to go on a on a
dry surface. So wet weather at the wrong time can
really significantly delay a whole construction process.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Really tremendosize and stuff. I really appreciate that. Thank you
so much for coming through. That's great, that's good information.
I think that's all my question to answer, So thank you,
good evening, Bruce, Marcus welcome.

Speaker 7 (15:00):
All right, Marcus, right, is such an I'm on the
horwist hardest moabilization business. Asked me some questions that you
want to know.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Oh good, hell, did normally take to reado a rose
it three weeks?

Speaker 8 (15:15):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (15:16):
About two to three weeks?

Speaker 6 (15:17):
Yeah, yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
That's just what's what's that? Depending on the weather.

Speaker 7 (15:23):
Well, and it does depend on the weather for the
final for the final final part usual country radio grade
forward ship when you're resealing roads, which goes straight over
the top of the grade five of the grade sixty. Okay,
so we're Raco but Rocan road construction. When you when
you when you're doing ratiostructure, you can dig it up.

(15:46):
We in the in the business of a hoe in
it and we lay ferment on top of it. Then
we did then we grade it and to roll it
over so and then we put the water on it.
They just go hard. Then we roll it and roll it,
which takes about a week to two weeks. And then
and then and then and then the ceiling crew are

(16:07):
coming and ceiling and.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
When you roll it and roll it, you've just got
to keep rolling back and back and forward over it
to each time you can press it more. Is that
or are there different machineries or different weights of the
roller you use.

Speaker 7 (16:20):
It's all the all the gens. It's rollers and traffic
as well. When traffic goes over with the tires they
got they got got sudden there. So when cars were
over at fash, they pick up the middle and and
tick it all over the place. And then we go
in and roll it. And then after that we sweep it,
not a not a proper rolls but a stabilization sweep

(16:43):
which rolls the top off. And then we then we
do the final final water and in the in the
rolling and then ceiling crew are coming and the.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Ceiling and they do pressure compression tests to work out
when it's compected enough it is it how they know?

Speaker 7 (17:01):
Ye, they're the roading engineers coming and do that and
and they tell when the roads is ready and then
we leave.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Okay, so when it's unsealed and you get heavy rain
that puts that that recks the whole surface, does it?

Speaker 7 (17:19):
No, it doesn't. Actually it actually helps it because the
cement on the air makes it actually makes it harder,
it makes it drove quicker.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Okay, yeah, and you can work twenty four hours or
you just work daytime.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Well, no, we can.

Speaker 9 (17:34):
We can.

Speaker 7 (17:35):
We can road construction twenty four hours a day, but
we can't seal until it's during the day because the
road's got to be a specific temperature for us for
them to put the bitzern on and actually make the
make the final coach to And.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
That seems to be about eighteen degrees is it.

Speaker 7 (17:55):
Yeah, so suddenly around there. Yeah, yeah, I think it's
about twenty one degrees twenty one to twenty three degrees here.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
And that's what I do it in the summer.

Speaker 7 (18:04):
Yeah, that's why I do it in the summer. Yeah,
or yeah, they can do it. It all depends on
our holidays and offer too mature of the They can
lay the bit swimmer anytime.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Really appreciate that, Bruce and stuff. That's good information. If
you aone's got any more information about road construction, Marcus.
It's not cars that help consolidate the road bed, its
trucks that do the most work. And yes, if there
is going to be a soft spot, it can be
identified and corrected before paving. Marcus, I would like the

(18:41):
opinion of people on the Caleb Clark instant. Another person
whom lost his Carenizer for six month had to pay
storage for the car to seven hundred plus a fine.
Seems like there is a double standard, Marcus, Huntley, Thames, Mata,
Marta cowdo all have about seven thousand population?

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I haven't got much comment about Caleb Clark. I mean
it is a next level thing to flee the police.
He has admitted to dangerous driving and failing to stop.

(19:29):
I don't know what was going on there. I think
the questions answered extremely well. Then, also to if you
want to speak about the MP four Portoikato, who's now
no longer a minister, If you want to mention that
or say something about that, you might be Last time

(19:51):
I talked about Andrew Bailey and said that how appalling
it was for him to be making the loser's sign
on what he called that worker. There was no shortage
of people from his electorate ringing up and saying what
a tremendous unit the guy was. In fact, a lot
of people played hockey with him, and I wonder what

(20:16):
they feel now about that. Yeah, I don't even know
really what to say, but I guess people I don't
know what people's opinions will be, but it was one
of the least surprising headlines ever, so you might want

(20:37):
to say something about that, and whether you're happy for
him to stay on as the MP for Portuakto. I mean,
I think what happens with these people is there'd be
very little chances he would run at the next election,
I would think, so it becomes a lame duck. There's
not much he's going to do. He's not going to
go back to cabinet and I don't think they'll be
running again for him for that seat, or he won't

(21:00):
be on the list certainly. So yeah, and most surprise
is there. I wouldn't be surprised if more information comes out.
I don't know. I haven't heard from anyone to say
there is more information. But often in these cases, if

(21:21):
the person who has lodged the complaint does not feel
that there's been a there's been enough contrition from the
member of Parliament, then you know more information will come out.

(21:41):
So yeah, often it's not the end. They haven't managed
to quarterize that. But the yeargo Andrew Bailey no longer minister,
So there we go. That's a situation there. But you know,
once that guy behaved like that at that winery, I

(22:03):
mean you're pretty much on borrowed time, aren't you, Because
that was like something I've never heard before, doing that
loser sign or the L sign with your finger. I mean,
that was just bizarre. Anyway, he was elected by the people,
of course, is it democracy? Eight hundred and eighty to

(22:30):
Johnny Marcus welcome.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Oh, good evening.

Speaker 6 (22:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
I think anybody who calls themselves a professional that pulls
the L sign, especially a public figo, has got the
maturity of someone who hasn't yet finished intermediately.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I've never worked with anyone that's done that in my workplace.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, I've seen people chucking a job and pulled the finger,
but no one in the in the job of that caliber.
I'll say the job has the caliber right. The other
thing was like touching somebody on the shoulder. I was
in a meeting just last week and there was a
number of people there. It was a bit of a

(23:16):
heated discussion, and a person sitting next to me who
was there to support me when they could see I
was taking some bait and giving it animated in my heart,
was in my mouth. They just put their hand on
my knee and looked at me and sort of gave
me a silent growl. And man, it did it. You know,
it did me justice. It helped me out big time.

(23:39):
And in other situations similar to that, I've had persons,
you know, put a hand on my shoulder and say, hey, mate,
you know, suck it up very quietly. But I've never
had anybody in an argument, you know, like from the
other end who's not supporting me, put the hand on
my shoulder. It would seem right out of place. And

(23:59):
I think that's probably why he resigned, because he's probably
arguing with the person and then put his hand on
his shoulder. And we could only imagine a product on
descending manner from someone that pulls the old place out.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Well the person, the person complained. The person complained, so
I guess that's for them to complain. They must have
thought it was out of order. Could well be one
of these well who knows, And look, no doubt with
these things, these things, more information tends to find its
way out.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
I would think, yes, Marcus, this is quite often there's
undercurrent or what's the term that you see Day's a
toxic culture in the office or something. But yeah, I
think you know, our leaders are people who purport to
be our leaders. We deserve to have people that don't
behave like children, and I know Parliament's full of behave

(24:45):
like children, but we need to raise the bar so
that our kids don't see us, you know.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Acting like, yeah, it's interesting they decided that he's decided
to resign. Now this guy, I mean, obviously it was
going to be told to resign or get fired. But
he didn't choose to resign when he did the L sign.
That seems to be the surprising thing. But Marcus, wh
where do they have thirty k through road works if
not complied with as many don't. Does this upset the

(25:10):
integrity of the road's surface? From Helen the road in
our area Central Otago were recealed less than a year ago.
The chip is mostly gone and they are just now
tah they're in better condition before they were resealed. What
has gone wrong? Fulton Hogan says they passed inspection. Who's

(25:31):
responsible for sweeping the road after the seal has set
a lock gets missed? Surely the road has to be
signed off as finished like swept scary from motorbike rider Malcolm.
Someone says was it a Harley or a Kaka? What
does that mean? Marcus? Any updates on the Chinese Navy
between ends In and Australia. Paul, Apparently I was away for

(25:53):
the week and apparently there was a Chinese naval ship
in the Bluff Harbor. Do you all know what that was?
On ship Spotter? A lot of talking bluff about that today.
Marcus and Willington Cobbham Drive as State Highway one recently
resurface at night with huge number of trucks, men cones

(26:16):
and arrow trucks. Maybe four or five months ago there
are significant damage and repairs to potholes. Now in some
places the third repair in a year. Each repair has
arrow trucks, cone for miles and mena machines. This seems
to be the Norman Any number of excuses offered, never
the contractors fault. Marcus. Pavement design is a black art,

(26:38):
seems obvious, but the more traffic, the thicker the pavement layers.
The tiny movement of the pavement from each car passing
is enough to do micro damage on the motorway that
design accounts for millions of cars passing. The pavement on
State Hurse six and West Go is about one millimeter thick.

(26:59):
Chairs Ball, Marcus. The longer the cones are out, the
more it costs bring back. The Ministry of Works. Has
the Chinese Navy destroyer left the Tasman see yet it's
only everyone's re interested in the navy, Marcus. Take a

(27:19):
look at the new Manaha to Gorge road replacement on YouTube.
The engineering the depth of ceiling should not need patchwork
in the near future. Noel Napier. People are passionate about
Rhodes fascinating article I rid today too about hawks Bay
and their meatballs. The hawks Bay meatball is a local
delicacy and is something quite special. We don't have any
local delicacies in this country, and it's kind of it's

(27:44):
not like a meatball as you it's weird. It seems
to have kind of a while a textured outside to it,
but like a corn dog or a frying saucer, so
it looks quite special. These are something I've never heard

(28:06):
of and it's just parts of hawks Bay. It's it's
a meaty roue r o u X crumbed and fried
until golden Yeah, like a spherical croquette. It's been around

(28:29):
for a while, but it's only in parts of Hawks Bay.
Came out of Havelock North apparently or no, it came
out of Continental Partiserie on Heretongus Street and Hastings. Duchy's
had a shop there and they've grown and they've taken over.

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There's one bakery and Fendled and Christ Judge that does
them also. That's the only breakaway. The rest of them
are within the region. Hastings have lor have Lot Northway,
Pa and my pocado napier is not really vibing on
those yet. So there you go, fancy, and that's an

(29:11):
exciting food delicacy because, to be honest, the other food
delicates are localized. One as they go on about as
a cheese roll, but cheese rolls kind of a bit
of a dud. It's not as good as cheese on
toast or a mouse trap. You can't say that, of course, Marcus.
I'm wondering how many people still have their own glory
boxes or their mother's old glory boxes. I'm seventy eight

(29:34):
and still have kept my mother's glory box. I'm asking
as we're selling my daughters. She's forty five. She doesn't
want it. Whereas a glory box the same as a
hope chest, are they the same thing? I think they
might be the same thing. Get in touch by name

(29:56):
is Marcus Welcome hddle twelve. Marcus. Do you feel for
residents of Tahuna Tuna Nui who may be homeless? Have sleep?
Knights of the Council improves a one way expansion, Marcus.
The material that is used for our roads as cheap
and NASTI the old roads were made with better materials

(30:17):
than now, Marcus. Motorways cost more than ten million per
k to build. Marcus. Andrew Bailey has been a very
good MP for Portwakato during COVID. He regularly helped farmers
electric feeding out and arranged hay deliveries for them. Shame

(30:40):
he has got some character flaws, Marcus. Are roads and
christ are in a shocking state. But speed Hump full
Major is putting up speed humps all over the city.
By the way, I love that story of Julie Gallaha
and a massive mushrooms. To see the size of those pagoa.

(31:01):
I don't even know where that is, but that's her.
She had these massive mushrooms. Honestly, they're about a meter across.
They're not a puffball or a toadstool. Google it up
if you can. Don't know if she's cooked them massive.
I say a meter. It was thirty said to me

(31:21):
as that might be a radius. Yeah, Ben Marcus, welcome
in game.

Speaker 6 (31:26):
I can say.

Speaker 10 (31:27):
I'm from Natcha and I just you triggered me. Actually
about these crumbed at meatballs. So Down's Butchery in the
grass Street. They do well. My dad calls them like rustles,
and I don't know an actual definition of rressole. I
call it like a meat petty that is crumbed. But
it's like a meatball and it's beautiful. They make them themselves,

(31:49):
and I guess you could deep fry them, but he's
been doing them for years and like they are, hands
down the most amazing things I've ever had.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Hang on, get hang on, Ben, what's the name of
the place that you said? They are?

Speaker 10 (32:04):
Downy's Butchery?

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Down these Yeah, Downy.

Speaker 10 (32:08):
Butchery is one of the last sort of serve over butcheries.
If you can think of like a corner but a
corner butchery is surrounded by houses.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
So these are these are served raw, They're not cooked.

Speaker 11 (32:22):
They're not cooked, they're raw.

Speaker 10 (32:23):
You take them home. So I don't know if you
can actually keep fry. I imagine you could. I can't
see why not. But yeah, usually well I cook him
in a pan or in the oven. But they crumbed
and they're just beautiful. And he does a certain mix.
It's got a little bit of like a spice, a spice, sorry,
like a Herby flavor to it. Beautiful, they've been he's

(32:46):
been doing them for years.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Have you hit it off to Hastings and tried that
particular meatball there? It seems to be a different It
seems to be peculiar to Hastings and Havelock. And that's
you buy them cooked a spherical and it's crumbed.

Speaker 10 (33:08):
Yep, it's the same these that's spherical and crumbed, not
a lot of complete ball. Because you know, you can
go to a bakery you can get those those sort
of like balls that have mints like sort of like
a real sort of weird mints.

Speaker 11 (33:21):
On the inside.

Speaker 10 (33:22):
Do you guys, do you guys know about that those
meat balls?

Speaker 2 (33:24):
I think, well, I think that's what we talk about
with the weird yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's that's the thing.
And the mints is quite fine.

Speaker 10 (33:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, well there is that's a bakery thing.
I thought that was a normal thing for kiwis talking about. Well,
they don't need to do a proper meat meaty thing
like that, but they're amazing. Oh now I get yes,
if it wasn't vined and have what probably.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
What do they do they?

Speaker 10 (33:53):
What do they?

Speaker 2 (33:54):
What do they cost?

Speaker 6 (33:55):
In cost?

Speaker 10 (33:58):
Maybe you get one for two fifty three three bucks?
A petty my man calls it a wrestole, but I
think the wrestole is a different thing. I think he's
got it wrong. But yeah, we go to the same butchery.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Nice to hear from your Ben Marcus, I read didn't
have a lot north of any crematorium. They haven't been
consulted about. Seems contentious. Well, everyone needs a crematorium. Marcus.
That meatball sounds like a bit of ball in his
original Dutch snack bit of ball, And Marcus, I wondered,
by getting an earlier resigning, he can stay on as
on an attractive package. Oh, I see, so if you

(34:33):
say you can keep the getting paid for two years.
This wasn't this guy, baby some sort of a financial
wizard from some sort of investment bank that that he
came into politics. That's what I thought. This is beautiful, Dahl.
What do you call these things again? Rissoles? Everyone makes
rissold Dahl. Marcus is driving at fifty and a thirty

(34:55):
k roadwork area, interfere with a roadwork Pango is south
of to Longy has the best pie shop ever. Helen
get in touch, Marcus till. Well, it's about roadworks, the
people that make the roads. What's going on there? Why
does it take so long? I guess it's different layers.
It all looks the same as you're just driving past.

(35:15):
We've got to get these different layers going and they've
got to be tested to be strong enough. Mind you,
I'm susceptible to one of those Facebook posts that says
new road and there's a picture of a Roman road
that's been built two thousand years ago. It's still together.
That's always quite fun. Well, exactly what's going on stuff? Headline?

(35:45):
Was it a touch, a grasp, a hold or a grab?
And why did it take three days to come out?
This is about Andrew Bailey. So speculation now in the
nature of how the arm was touched cheapest petrol news
timid people are be excited about that gaspy you get

(36:07):
on gasby is there were that people love saying that
Timodo the cheapest, Graymouth the priceiest. Taiwanaka teams and fung
are cheapest guest Timodow Nelson, Richmond Blenhemant and Hamilton n

(36:32):
d p D p d who camen of Nelson, they're
the heroes and Gull. For a while Gore was the
cheapest place the country because Gull opened their first station
of the South Island and Gore fuel price appeared to
be declining or somewhat gently. Is he's in dollar rallies.

(36:54):
We can expect that to continue. Well, all the drilling
Trump's gonna do, that's going to bring the price down
of petrol, isn't it. Drill drill, drill, and all the fracking.
Quite exciting situation. Courtney Place will bring information about that
when we've got that. Also Hittle twelve Minames Marcus welcome,

(37:18):
get in touch if you doh eight hundred eight if
you do want to rather catch it on midnight, oh
eight hundred and eighty, t romance along at twelve. The
cricket will start at ten New Zealand versus Bangladesh. We
should win that, but you know, might be a banana
peel game. Hopefully we will first match for the Rugby

(37:43):
League Worries versus the Raiders one pm Sunday, lockandin greetings
and good evening the people you said Manames Marcus, welcome.
I hope it's good where you are. We are talking
result well to them at the Hawks Hawks by meatball.
I kind of thought I had a fairly good grasp
on regionality and different foods in different places. Never heard

(38:05):
of this, And like all our foods, there's a history
of migrants and that's what apparently becomes as part of
the Dutch culture. So a Dutch bakery have started doing
those and they have taken over and they have become nothing.
They have a meatball festival.

Speaker 6 (38:30):
Now.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
The exciting about a meatball is that you're not getting
on the pastry, and that's got to be a good thing.
So you're get in just the meat without everything else.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Well, you see, I've always thought the the great evolving
thing was going to be the Cornish pasty, but I
think this could be quite good. The meatball. It's just
parts of Hawk's Bay which makes it even more kind
of for French like different regions. We're also talking about
roadworks and how what are they doing the whole time?

(39:02):
But it's quite particularly they've got to do all the compressing.
Most of it seems to be pressing, and I'm happy
with that cheapest fuel. Gore and McEwens Wonica usually have
the cheapest diesel. I think a McDonald's built either side
of McEwen's Wonica would do well and enhance that part.

(39:26):
Marcus Karma has got Caleb Ralfup didn't want to join
the virtual rugby competition. Well that seems weird, doesn't he
wouldn't want to join that, but then pleading guilty to that,
don't get it. And on the topic of meatballs from
Christopher Oh, this is a great email. Marcus grew up

(39:51):
in the Bay and did a deep dive on this
as was determined to find the original recipe. Yes, the
meatball was first popularized in the Hastings area. When I
was young, my grand mother would take me to an
iconic and long closed bakery on Heretongas Street called the Lilac.

(40:12):
The story goes it was once owned by a Dutch
family and is indeed a bit of ballin filely minced
meat mixed with a spice infused rue nutmeg mace e
sept for giving it a distinctive creamy texture and slightly
exotic taste. Then it is deep fried and fine breadcrumbs.

(40:37):
The best ones are spectacular. Even BP and Y Parler
has a good one. Recipe is below, but they are
quite laborious. That's from Chris. Now a note on the recipe.

(41:01):
I was told by the lady who sent me the
recipe that she'd had it for over fifty years and
was given by her friend who made the lilac meat balls.
The mace in the original w REA. The mace in
the original recipe substitute the mace called four on the
recipe with an equal amount of nutmeg. Since mace is

(41:22):
the membrane that surrounds nutmeg, the flavor will be similar.
Nutmeg just has a slightly more pungent flavor and fragrance.
Can you get mace in New Zealand?

Speaker 6 (41:37):
And?

Speaker 2 (41:37):
The recipe is two pounds veal, one tablespoon salt, one
bay leaf. I just read this out of interest. You're
not supposed to write it down. I couldn't be bother
reading it slowly. One teaspoon beef stock, one teaspoon mace,
twenty four peppercorns, parsy, pinch of thyme, chopped onion. Cover
with water and simmer for thirty minutes. Remove meat and
cut up fine. Melt two tablespoons butter, two eggs juice

(41:58):
of lemon, parsley caught, a cap of cream, sprinkle of salt.
Add to stock, Add flour to thicken to make sauce.
Add meat to mixture. Put in a free just set
chapen balls, bread cram, cook and deep oil till golden
Lilac Bakery recipe. Of course, you've learned a lot already.
We spoken on Expert on roads. Now we've got the
recipe for the meatballs. What are we to do for

(42:21):
the next three hours? People seem to finally be concerned
about the chip, well finally only because it was last
week's story. This is the Chinese navy. I think they've
got every rights to be there. I think what will
be the situation we need to watch closely as if

(42:41):
they develop bases in one of the Pacific islands. And
people on this show even warming up and say, why
are we giving money to the Pacific Islands. Well, I
think it's probably the reason it's aid, but also it's
to stop the Chinese coming with aid and establishing military
bases there or fishing bases. But I think one quickly

(43:06):
the other. Fourteen past nine, Looking forward to your input tonight.
My name is Marcus. Welcome eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty about how roads are made. If you've worked in roading.
There is breaking news about the Pope, but I don't
know how breaking this news is, so I'll read it.

(43:28):
This was at seven o'clock. Pope Francis remains under crill condition,
is suffering kidney failure in hospital. The Vetica's announced the
pot of the suffering early kidney failure is Francis battles
pneumonia and a complex lung infection. He had a good

(43:51):
night and was resting after he was well oriented on
Sunday and attended Mass. The night passed where the Pope
slept and is resting receiving high flows of supplemental oxygen.

(44:14):
Reiterated that frances was stalking to be in a critical edition.
There's a situation with the Pope. They information. I bring
that to you. Of course, obviously large other people praying
outside the hospital. Good evening markets, Marcus welcome.

Speaker 6 (44:40):
The people who owned the line of cake shop his
name was Ikad and Judy Conger. They had a shop
opposite the Now Your World in the Heretola streets and
they had one also in Nathew in the Border and Small.
The were friends of my late mother. He used to

(45:00):
make marsa panduga custard with eggs and vanilla, all traditional
and his pastries were just absolutely something out of this world.
But they went to Australia as far as I know.
And that's that's what I add that to your your

(45:20):
interesting topic tonight.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
I know, christ Church you have a big Dutch community.
The Hawks Bay got a Dutch community, a big Dutch community.
Were they outliers?

Speaker 6 (45:29):
Oh yes, I suppose we have probably yeah, yeah, no reason.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
No reason for that. I guess after the war a
lot of Dutch came and news in and went everywhere,
didn't they.

Speaker 6 (45:41):
Well, there's a strong Germanic. Well, like, I'm going to
a place the bottom end of Profauda Square and Nelson
many years ago called chess Alco chess Alco and going
in there was like he had the same gurgling away.

(46:01):
What's that he Senator as an express Mashima. I imported
it from literally a nice drift before the thing sat
there and gurgled away, and it was a He had
Shellers lounge and there and book cases and old lamps,
but had all these torts with jetties and raspberry sentiments
and cream and everything that you think, wow, where did

(46:26):
this come from? So it was early about it was
about Cafe Seist. But that's that's Newson for you. It's
sort of a little bit, a little bit. I think
a lot of people there have free spirited of that
are live around there still, and it's got a bit
of an energy about the place. But I think he's gone.

(46:49):
I think he's up in heaven. But he had an
award for his seafood chowder. But I like food, So tell.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Me when did when? When did the lilac? When did
that close? And they left?

Speaker 6 (47:02):
Ah? Yeah, I can't think. No, I can't think of
any years ago. Forty years ago probably yes, for yeah,
something like that. Judy and I can't conquer. They had
one daughter. As far as I know, I went to Australia.
But he was a very talented baker and paste Patrie Well, yes,

(47:25):
when batisserie. Weren't What are you paying for a lovely
pastry and bluffs and ice paste? You have e custard
and a bit of silamon on top with her.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
I can get it. It's about six or seven dollars
for a pin wheel. Now it seems a lot. They've
gone up quite steeply.

Speaker 6 (47:46):
Oh well you get pack what what? What? What's the
poud of PAMs butter? Now six dollars eighty nine? Was
twenty nine. But you got to make butter. You's gonna
make food, don't You don't. If you're going to make
your cake, you don't put margarine, and you don't put oil.
You put butter butter us as flavor mark.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
I've got a question when you when you went you've
been to Lilac.

Speaker 6 (48:13):
I've been to Lilac.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Where was the Where was the meat ball? Was it
in a pie? Pie warmer?

Speaker 6 (48:24):
He made pies?

Speaker 2 (48:24):
He said, well, where was the meatball? Was the meatball hot?
You got it hot?

Speaker 8 (48:29):
Hot?

Speaker 6 (48:29):
Hot? I could buy but his meatballs were fantastic, but.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
They were sold hot like a pie warm? Is that right?

Speaker 6 (48:36):
I want to see the delicious, but I think the
ones which they have now when you buy at a
out of a what do you think that a pie warm?
They contained a lot of bread crumbs.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
I've never seen. I've never seen. I've never seen a
meatball on its own in a shop ever, Honestly, without
a word of a lie, I've never seen. I've never
seen a hot meatball for sale.

Speaker 6 (49:06):
All right, Well, you know you go into a you're
go into a pie shop and then they all are
and when you eat eat them are very very they're
very fatty, very early. But I think they've got quite
a lot of bread crumbs in them.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yes, are they served in a bagger on a.

Speaker 12 (49:24):
Stick and and a bag and a bag and a
bag yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
And there's also on the way through Shammon there's a
place called the Village Kitchen and they.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Make cream horn a cream horn.

Speaker 6 (49:45):
They make them. Yeah, they're down there. They're well known.
Cream horns, finished tarts, clears upside down, mushmallow cakes, stuff
from you know, long before you could buy a packing
but you could buy biscuits Bulkington's from your local well
you had super grosser in those days. But they make

(50:08):
all that sort of stuff, so you r the cream
horns are amazing and how to make them, but they're
kneelish charts which they've got that little a little bit
of lemon curd in the bottom with the half half
what I think a ah, But I had a mother
made those. She had to hide them from me.

Speaker 13 (50:27):
Chat.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Take care of your self censoring.

Speaker 6 (50:31):
I'm self censoring.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
I like an Ecles cake, That's what I like. That's
what I'll cross the street for an Eckles cake. I
always forget what it is. I've never got sure if
it's a Garabaldy biscuit or Ecles. I'll cross the road
for an Ekeles cake if I forget something. But look,
that's going to be part of my food pilgrimage. Next
time I go, I'll be heading to well, I don't
know if I've got a record to Fendleton or if

(50:56):
I go to Hawk's Bay to try the old the
old meatballs or the bit and bo what do they
call it's the name of it. Do what was good?
And God didn't get enough fuss that was in.

Speaker 8 (51:15):
Gore.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Therefore, while they're doing a deep fried cheese roll, that
was better. Marcus Tahannah Bakery north of Welsford and Tahanna
sells cannonballs which are basically meatballs inside of tennis balls
and are in the pie warmer. Wow, I've never heard
of a I'm going to put that on my list.
Down a Tahanna cannonball. How many places? How many places

(51:38):
are on a food list? Now, there was a person.
There was a person who's making their own toasty bars
at Marcus. New World Hastings have those meatballs amongst a
lot of other great hot foods at their deli Marcus.
The meatballs are now made a Tamata bakehouse at Havelock

(51:59):
North by a local baker called John Healy. Did you
just say have Loo, You've got to say have North. Marcus.
I walked across worked across the Pacific from twenty eleven
to twenty twenty one. Lot of eight is given to
many countries from China. Maduro Marshall Islands even has signs
on building and infrastructure projects saying gifted from PRC. China

(52:21):
has already moved to the Pacific, and they don't move
out of such a resource rich area. Now they are
just opening showing their position. Marcus Anna's Cafe at Tower Junction,
christ Church make the Dutch meat balls travel from the
other side of town. Just to buy them chairs.

Speaker 13 (52:42):
And these are very good texts.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Marcus. Just wanted to ask about your topic of roads.
Does the nz TA and local councils get road work
jobs covered under the Consumer Guarantees Act. If it doesn't,
then it should be just asking because I see some
shocking jobs and repairs constantly been done, even after a
couple of weeks. Also, did you hear about buffalo milk
and cheese today? What's buffalo milk and cheese? Tell me
more about that, Matt, Marcus Richard from Hastings. I used

(53:21):
to work at the local powerboard in Hastings. The Lilac
was only two minutes walk from work. The meatballs were superb,
not forgetting their custard squares out of this well it
to lunch. You have a meatball in the custard square.
I drive to the bay for a cream horn. I
remember the Lilac Heretonga Street, East Murray, Chris, it's Marcus, Welcome, good.

Speaker 14 (53:46):
Evening, mate. Hey listen, you've got a food list there.
I'll tell you what now. You mentioned a buffalo milk
and cheese. So there's a farmer in Cleveden in Auckland
who about twenty years ago imported twenty or thirty buffaloes
out of the state, and they actually farmed them. I
think they've got about something like six hundred head now.

(54:08):
And they make buffalo milk and they sell it fresh.
And they make buffalo cheese, which is kind of like
a bit of a mozzarella and they sell that at
the Farmer Marcus in South Aortland. And I'll tell you what,
if you've never had a coffee a flat white made
out of buffalo milk, it is creamy. It's almost like

(54:29):
that stuff. We can't talk about the three letters. As
you lie back at night. It's absolutely beautiful. Look up
Buffalo's South Orll and Cleveland and it's a great place
to go.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
I've had a sheep of China.

Speaker 14 (54:46):
Yeah, that brings up a whole different story when I
used to be a young military police officer and woou
going to court watching farmers getting blocked up for things.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
But okay, okay, we'll leave you there. I don't think
what try. I think it tastes like something I thought
what I say where my mind went, thank you for that?
You they are milking sheep. For a while, that was
a big I don't know what I think the Chinese
like sheep milk. I don't know why it's like goat milk.

(55:16):
Thank you, Chris. I've tried the mozzarella at Cleveland, I
mean every boogie farmer's my Oh you, let's get some
of that. Oh, let's get some of that mozzarella. Buffalo mozzarella.
Get in touch. My name is Marcus, welcome re interested
in these meatballs out of Southern Hawk's Bay, not napier.

(55:41):
Seems to be a line, devisive line, but the recipe
is good. You want mace? Can you buy mace? Please?
Beware of the meatballs at the Gold service station, risky bers.
I've never seen a meatball for sale on its own
heat it never. I don't even know how you'd serve it,
if you'd seve it on a stick or on a

(56:02):
bag or what we'd come with something to eat, wouldn't it.
I know a scott I love a Scotch egg. I'm
surprised they aren't more front and center of the world, Marcus.
My mother used to work at the Lilac Patisseri in
Fenleton More, christ Church. It was run by a Dutchman

(56:22):
his family. He made bit of bold and also amazing
biscuits called speculas yum. Marcus Havelock North is his Palming
north Is. I think the weather fore castons he'd be stupid.
When did the West Coast become gray? Christine? I think

(56:46):
it's the Gray district. We all know it as that,
don't we. Fancy Old Richard working at the power board
in Hastings with the lilac. Marcus, I'm with you with
the Eckles cake. I'm English and love got Ecles cake.
Recommendation of Suburn and Auckland would be appreciate. I don't

(57:07):
know where you get Nichols cake and Auckland. The last
one I got was it was at the markets at Dunedin.
But yeah, Marcus one hundred percent agree with Mark about
Shay's el coh and Nelson and the pastries and savories

(57:29):
were amazing. He was very famous for michel chowder, not
seafood chowder. He branded it and sold it in cans.
Marcus and lend him. In the sixties and seventies we
had a Hook's Bakery, best bakery ever, Mister and missus
hook will lovely best Dutch custard squeeze ever. My husband
resigned from his after school job working in his father's

(57:49):
garage to work for the hoax washing dishes they used
to give a bag of dancers take home. Sadly, his
mother made him resign and got back to working for
his father after school. He was devastated. Nothing you've gotten
over it, chairs, Gilly Marcus. You gotta go to Baconon's
next time in christ Church. Best show, Jen. So where
would you see a meatball for sale? Hot? Nowhere? It'd

(58:15):
be a good thing to have at a like at
an A and P show. If you had a food cart,
that's what you want to be doing. I've given you
the recipe a meatball food cart because a good thing
about a meatball food cart is you could do three
dollars each or three for seven dollars. Yeah, and I've

(58:42):
seen there's great international precedent with meatball food trucks. Unfortunately
most of them are called things like big bulls and stuff,
which probably isn't that necessary, and sometimes it's served in
a bun. But each to your own. I don't think
you're going to make a lot of money from a

(59:03):
food truck. I think it's more a lifestyle thing about food.
You see them popping up more and more places now
don't you get in touch Marcus till twelve. We're talking
about roadworks now that section between Atia Muri and Wairaki

(59:27):
will be closed for five weeks yep. So yeah, we're
certain experiencing long roadworks on the Bluff Road. But the
Bluff Road just between the cag and Bluff thirty k's
goes through swamp, so it was never a great any huh.
Huge amounts of trucks, huge amounts of logs going to

(59:49):
the port live log export or maybe they're chipped halfway
down and sent to China. But also Tallis have got
their big milk plant open country, so there's huge numbers
of double tankers taking milk. It's kind of a different
I don't quite know how open country works. I think

(01:00:11):
they pay more for milk closer, whereas Fonteret's are flat rates,
so they kind of yeah, they've got some market advantage,
but seem to be very very busy with tankers. Often
see a lot of cars there at night when I
go to work, so that's a situation there. But the
road just get rerecked and this major repairs very very often.

(01:00:34):
Obviously I'd like to see the logs go by rail.
But you're putting them over the trouble with logs and rail.
You've got to put them on the trucks in the forest,
so you may as well leave them on their way
the whole way do they get to the ship. So
that's what happens. Someone's rating the Eckles cakes at muffin Breaks.

(01:00:55):
Believe it or not. They're own right there on site.
They make them. Saint Luke's or Sylvia Park didn't think
they have the Eckles cakes. So there you get it
from Cydy. She'd be missing them down south, went north,
believe they were there. Think it's not really cake, is
row biscuit, but it's called the Ecles cake. That's what
we like about that. Chris Marc is welcome, Got you there,

(01:01:17):
Chris greetings?

Speaker 15 (01:01:19):
Oh god, sorry, yeah, ok, yeah, hey. Look in the
old days you could hear the echo on the old radio.
But of course they've stopped there on pulling you from
the hat. But I used to work in in the
old Italian restaurant and the old the best meat ball
I ever made, And I learned that from you know.
I mean, I'm forty nine now and I worked in

(01:01:41):
the Italian restaurants for about two or three years, and
the best meatball ever made was mince pork and mince
beef and whatever you're using with minced pork and mins beef,
and introduced thirty percent of bread crumbs in a couple
of eggs. Now the breed crumbs, don't I know, they dried,

(01:02:02):
but they absorbed moisture in the meat and they just
the absolute perfect texture to the bite when you bait
down on the meatball. Toty percent pork months, tofty percent
beef months. And that's how you make the most wonderful
Italian meatball. And that's that's what it's made of. If
you go to an Italian restaurant and they say they're

(01:02:24):
serving you meatball, it's always tofty percent pork and fifty percent.
And I'll tell you what, that's a little salt.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Where was that, Chris.

Speaker 6 (01:02:35):
Well?

Speaker 15 (01:02:35):
I worked in Speedy Connection back in on Jesson Street, Detoning. Yeah,
the restaurant was owned by a guy named Marco. Marco,
you know, and and I worked down I was only man.
I was well, sorry, seventeen or something like that at
the time. You know, I was a dishwaker. I was

(01:02:56):
only a dishwasher, and I started on being tasto, which
is anything without pasta in it. The anti pasto is
the Italian caller.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
And I know that was what call? Does it make
sense now?

Speaker 15 (01:03:10):
Yeah, it's called the anti passa anything without pasta. So
it'll be vegetables, cheeses, you know, you get a cheese
placker or something like that. That imployed me. I'm actually
half kire we half way. It's on them, but I
look like an Italian, you know. Yeah, yeah, and he
employed me. He employed me because of that reason, and

(01:03:31):
I learned so much, you know. But yeah, the best
meatball you'll fire making your life fifty percent beef, fifty
deercent portments of bigment portmans, and about thirty percent or
even twenty five percent of whatever you're mixing together, bread
crufts and a couple of eggs, of course, and mixed
it to you there. And the smaller you make them,

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the longer it'll take you to cook them. But you've
got to cook them slowly. A meat bought a good
meat balls cooked slowly over the frying pan, a little oil,
and you cook them really slowly, really slowly, so that
the outside doesn't boom, for the middle is stoked it's
going to.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Tell Chris appreciate that much.

Speaker 13 (01:04:09):
They thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Someone said, I'm reading from the text Marcus. Food truck
is a subject at my daughter's school. They're learning it now.
It's weird, isn't it. It's made my night. They're doing
food truck for the year ten as a subject. We're
talking about the peculiar phenomenon of the Scotch dear or
not the Scotch dig the meatball in Hawk's Bay, parts

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of Hawks Bay. An extremely good article on these from
one of the local one of the Hawk's Bay papers,
paragraph after paragraph of interesting information. I think they're having
a hawks A festival. Yeah, there are. It's more spherical croquette.

(01:05:04):
But the inaugural Hastings Meatball Festival happening on the fourteenth
of March. And the question on everyone's lips, why has
this not happened sooner? Yeah, they say it's sort of
got the texture of Petai shane O's bake house, seals

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of and Hastings. The meat spoiled down quite a bit,
mixed with a rue not a kangaroo. Shane O making
six hundred a week, three dollars a pop. Most casters
are due to two at a time. The cradle of

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hawks Bay's meatball civilization was Lilac Continental Partis three on
Heretongus Street and Hastings. Jered Christian Denish and his wife
Ina opened a shop in fifty six and quickly grew
a loyal following locals accustomed to stodgy, cold railway pies
easy we're excitedly rather as European style participarly. There were

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cues out the door. The meatballs were likely inspired by
the bitter ballin of the Homeland, bite sized beef croquettes
often enjoyed with beer. Denny started using beal, but switched
to more really available beef and plumped up the serving size.

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After apprentices moved on, the recipe spread to other bakeres
throughout the area, including the one on fen Dalton now
ivon Lorcan. She's a good sort if you ever come
across here, she said. The favorite She's like a FOODI
is your wine person, bit of foodie.

Speaker 6 (01:06:55):
She said.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Her favorites are from Century Bakery and Hastings. There's a
cafe called Westerman's and BJYS is a hot ticket. I
think they can sell a twelve pack at BJS. Now

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the festival organized won't be drawn on a favorite. Twenty
two operators will be at the festival serving twenty five
different diverse meatball creations. There's a vegan ones called a neatball.
There'll be a DJ course, there will be there's a
nacho version of Shane O's and Peter Gordon he's a

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food he's to get into a wagyu one. Of course
he is with carbo co coursiers. Free to get in.
When was the last time something was free to get in?
Five thirty eight thirty on March fourteen?

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Is it? IDEs of March at March fourteen? Now someone
has suggested, and it's an extremely goodgence at the Meatball Festival.
Of course they should be showing the movie Meatballs, because
that's just on brand. It was not really on brand,
but nineteen seventy nine, it's been a long time, I
mean probably an age that well, that movie Marcus bits

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of balling and beef croquettes at the Dutch Cafe in Foxton,
perfect Wilhelmina Marcus. They should have been out to screating meatballs.
The movie that'll get people going exactly. Could you keep
us updated on the cracket of course, Curller. Marcus, you
were talking to Tom late Friday. You mentioned the nearly
open on Key Street, Auckland before the Scooter of Tavern.

(01:08:43):
It was the old Britam out of the Court of
Galway and Key Street. The scooter had open till seventy two.
The brit was full of characters in those days, sadly
mostly long gone as a young Seene in the sixties
and spent too much time and money there far north End, Marcus.
With the demise of the daily railway shunt serving Bethist
coal mine at Nightcaps, the coal for Edidale goes by

(01:09:06):
road State Hillway ninety six between Nightcaps and Mosbourne Highway.
It's all been destroyed, currently receiving already work. I don't
realize the shunt was still going. I still see cole
wagons coming out of there, don't I when did stop? Anyway,
we're talking meatballs, but the Dutch meatballs and hawks. By

(01:09:26):
the end of a meatball festival, we've got seven sharp
written all over in there. You want to get down there.
Oh look at this one. Oh nothing like a regional festival.
Twenty five different meatball stores. I'll tell you what if

(01:09:47):
a Choice Tory in the Art Deco Festival Hawks Bay
or the Meatball Festival. For me, the Meatball Festival on
his hands down. The Art Deco Festival to me sounds like, yeah,

(01:10:10):
I'm sure you can. There's some colorful events going on there.
We're also discussing roadworks to those people involved in them,
how can it take so long to prepare the surface,
like two or three weeks. There must be a lot
of going back and forward and kind of compressing.

Speaker 16 (01:10:26):
It.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Never quite understood that, so we've talked about that also tonight.
But if it's something different you want to talk about.
Good here's a question where what day you should you
start drinking coffee? I think I must have been nine
or ten. But they're warning people not to get your
kids drinking coffee too young. My children have shown no interest.

(01:10:48):
I always try and encourage them. I'd like them to
drink coffee, but they're not interested. So yeah, I don't
know why that is. We're always drinking coffee, lived on
it as children. But yeah, maybe it was the thing.
Maybe there's more different things to drink these days. Always

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with the old oven top one, you know, how to
go more and more about the meatballs. Marcus was on
a business trip about five years ago on Amsterdam and
had these bitter balls in a pub with a few beers,
just like meatballs we had growing up in Hastings at

(01:11:29):
various bakeryes. Still grab some from a bakery and Mahoro
Hastings when in town visiting family. Fantastic. It's all about
Hastings meatballs tonight. Didn't even know they are a thing
before tonight. Marcus, the Tucker Box Bakery and Thame Street
and Pandora and Nap, you can't beat them. I've moved,
been moved from Nap for five years now, so I'm

(01:11:50):
not sure if it's still open. Have a great night,
Marcus Toyer, Graymouth. Nice to hear from your Toyer. Another
serious extent State Hiway one Kelson Lower Hut doesn't look
good at all. There's something the information I've got for
you people. Eighteen past ten. We're talking meatballs. Also Andrew Bailey,
he was the guy that called the guy on a
work visit a loser and made the l sign with

(01:12:12):
his fingers. Should have gone, then he stayed on. Now
there's been some situation where he's grabbed, touched, done something
to the arm of one of his workers. That worker
has complained and took a day or two to think
about it and has decided to resign. He wasn't fired,

(01:12:35):
but he's resigned, which means a dead man walking. I
mean you don't come back from that. Oh no, he
won't be back, so they won't be in parliament again.
I mean he won't be re elected in twenty twenty
seven six. So I guess what happens when does he
show up in parliament again? I don't know. Just becomes

(01:12:58):
a waste of space, doesn't it. Although last time I mentioned,
people said that he was tremendous in the local community.
One guy played hockey with him and said, you couldn't
meet a nicer guy. But I guess that guy hadn't
had his hand touched touched Marcus, Awesome, The Wild Food
Festival is still going. Start drinking coffee at forty four.

(01:13:22):
I'm still forty four? Thank you? When did you start
drinking coffee? Would you swear your kids? Offered Marcus A
funny coffee story. I went to a tiny country school
in the wind. We had cocoa for lunch. We used
to sneak spoonfuls of cocoa and sugar teachers. Pete was
allowed coffee. I thought it must taste much nice than

(01:13:44):
cocoa and sugar. How wrong I was, Ellie. Chris Marcus welcome, Yeah, Hello.

Speaker 17 (01:13:50):
It's yeah Chris be Yeah. I was just calling up.
I'm wondering about that. The roadworks and they do have
a consumer's guarantee X for that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Why do people keep saying this, Well.

Speaker 17 (01:14:05):
You know, like this spend you know, literally months repairing
these roads and within two weeks there's potholes, the tar
seels tearing off, and you know, the quality of the
roads is not there. And you would put things that
you know, for the amount of money the hundreds of
thousands that they'll spend on it, that they you'd been

(01:14:28):
getting something actually in return for that, you know, not
not a bad quality job as such, Isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Just because the roading lobby allowed Advocated to get much
heavier trucks on the roads that are doing a lot
more damage.

Speaker 17 (01:14:44):
That's that's potentially it as well, like the money that's
gone from those trucks, like those heavy trucks, they pay
a lot more on road user charges and all the
rest of it. And you would think that the money
that that each of the truck drivers pay like that

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sort of kilometer rate that it would sort of they
would be able to build something of better quality to
allow for those heavier trucks for all the money that
they've put into that, not to mention the fuel tax
of them for all the rest of it like that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
I mean, just from sitting sitting here, Chris, I know
that everyone's an expert on roads, but until you're talking
to the people that make them, no one really knows anything.
I think probably there's a lot of misinformation about roads
on the radio I reckon, Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:15:35):
Definitely, And I think each region has its obstacles as well,
like you know, more higher wetlands and the rest of it.
Like that, There's a lot of potential factors that come
into place.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
So are you are you a truck Are you a
truck driver?

Speaker 14 (01:15:52):
Chris?

Speaker 17 (01:15:54):
Yeah, you actually truck driver, been one for ten.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Years at least, and you've noticed the roads getting worse?

Speaker 17 (01:16:05):
Ah yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely getting getting in a lot worse.
I think, I think the number of trucks and the
sugawight definitely have things that come into play with that.
But yeah, you think the amount of money being spent
into it was sort of you'd be able to come
up with a fetter quality product for the for the roads.

(01:16:27):
You know, like they kind of need to, you know,
watch where wats where they're putting their money out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Yes for okay, live with there, Christmas just fading out.
Thank you for that. Twenty five past I had. I
had the opportunities this weekend THO was up, but to
drive the Milford Road between Tiano almost to Milford Town
and go the whole way. It's a long road, it's
a beautiful road. They're doing a lot of work on it.
They're always doing work on it because it's prone to
wets and avalanches. And it struck me as extraordinary that

(01:17:02):
we have that road. Here's a road probably one hundred
and twenty k's through the most difficult land there is
that goes nowhere. It just goes to Milford Sound Milford Track.
Incredibly expensive road to maintain to serve tourists who don't

(01:17:25):
really pay anything to use it. I mean, it's not
a vital road for a community. No already lives at
Milford Sound. May it certainly not cost effective as a road.
I just wonder if there's a better option there is
just to stop cars going on and just have buses

(01:17:46):
and charging people more or something like that, because it
must cost a fortune to keep open. I mean, these
days you'd never build that road. I don't think I
could see it been a big project after the depression,
think okay, it's put a road through there. But from
a justifiable point of view, these days, I mean, there

(01:18:07):
must be hundreds of people just involved in keeping the
road open the whole time. And to be honest, the
driving on the road's pretty sketchy as well, so something
pretty crazy overtaking Marcus. I made it through school and
polytech all night is then hit the workforce, where I
needed coffee to beat the monotony. Don't get me started

(01:18:29):
at the Wild Foods Festival. I live a hook at
Ticker and we pay in the damn thing in our rates.
Marcus Zender's Cafe in Hamilton sell the Dutch bitter ball
and another Dutch food absolutely yummy, great, but I don't

(01:18:51):
think I've ever had one evening, Greg Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 16 (01:18:57):
Marus. I was just stucking into work late on the
hood on the radio talk about meat balls, and so
I thought I had to join in the converse because
it's such a it's a such an important thing to
the economy. And I live in christ Church and there
is a a fy called Bakerments in the illustrious sun

(01:19:20):
of fenn Bulton, and they make a very unusual meatball.
It's like a it's like a little mental high filling
raped in less crumb.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Yes, this is what this is what we've been talking about.
And it came that was an apprentice from the bakery
and Hawk's Bay that went down and started the one.
What's the bakery in Fendleton called Bakermens. Yes, someone has
talked about that. Oh no, that's right now, that's good though.

(01:19:53):
That's good that you're hearing about that. That that's because
because Hawks Bay or Hastings having a meatball festival because
they're famous there and the only place out of there
you can get them seems to be in Fendleton.

Speaker 5 (01:20:06):
Yeah, it's great, awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Looks like I'm looking at their website now, it looks
like a pretty full on bakery.

Speaker 5 (01:20:14):
It's actually I'm not blowing smoke, but I would say
it's the Beast Bakery and christ by a gazillion miles.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
And it's not a model, it's not a modern thing.
I'm just trying to look where they what they're calling
them on the what do they call them on their Facebook?
On their website? These things they called meatballs?

Speaker 16 (01:20:35):
Yeah, well when I go to them to buy them,
the I a should go out of my way to
get them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
It's understandable. There they are three dollars twenty. I'm seeing
them on their Facebook page now, Greg, I've got to
go for headlines. But thank you so much. If someone says, Marcus,
a Scotch egg beats some meatball any day, cheers Tony.
I reckon. I'm reading what you're saying there, Tony. But
meet A Scotch egg is a lot. It's a lot

(01:21:05):
to eat in one go. It's like half a pound
of mins and an egg. It's done, relenting. What I'd
like is a Scotchy egg sandwich with a thin slice
of it put between bread. That might be good. Marcus
Bakerman's is definitely the best bakery cafe, and christ Church
is slick. Operation is always busy. Recently expanded the shop

(01:21:30):
next door when it closed down. Marcus, the guy doesn't
know what he's talking about. Best bakery and christ Church
is ard Agie Bakery on Greer's Road. What about that
bakery and Sumner kind of like an organic. That's pretty
damn good. I'd call that the best my two bakeries

(01:21:50):
and christ shows be the one there. Sumner always get gritz,
get something there before we go walk up that road
to the lookout from Taylor's Mistake. It's toys the lot.
We're walking across to Littleton. We always go there first.
The other bakery, I'm a big fan of that. Twenty
five our bakery. Wow, that's the real deal. Cheap as

(01:22:10):
creep as you go in there. Let's just slice a
christ Church. I enjoy that. That's to walk with kings
and keep the common touch. But that one and Summoner's
pretty good. Despite me and the dog Marlowe, I must
set to there, Marcus. Jimmy Page started off in a Skipple,

(01:22:31):
a skiffle band in the late fifties. Appeared on the
BBC Age thirteen. Well, I think probably have you seen
the movie, because I think the movie's probably got a
slightly more nuanced take on it than that. They all
look pretty good. Jimmy Page and well, Jimmy Page and
John pel Jones. Johnple Jones actually comes across free much

(01:22:55):
like Tony do and looks and mannerisms, which I'm sure
he's been told more than once. M Because they wear
the Yardbirds. They record their first albums the Yardbirds. They
just said, okay, it's called ourselves led Zeppelin. But both

(01:23:18):
John Paul Jones and Jimmy Page were very successful session
musicians from a very young age, re accomplished musicians. Of course,
Jimmy Page wasn't the yard Birds. And of course the drummer,
the greatest drummer ever, John Bonham, just one of the naturals.

(01:23:41):
But yeah, it's good. I mean, and I've gone back,
I mean every every two or three years. I listened
to all the albums again. But the documentary maker has
just got some extraordinary video footage us located. So it's
certainly well worth seeing. And what was interesting seeing the
movie is it was there was an intermission. You don't

(01:24:01):
even come across there, do you, just the road for
the west staying and just across the road the camping ground.
So we're well for us. Quite a successful weeknd the
way went up to like Mary and did the walk.
It was good, Louise, It's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 8 (01:24:20):
Evening, Mark, I tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Louise, I'm good, thank you.

Speaker 14 (01:24:25):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (01:24:26):
Coffee, yeah, I don't. I was brought up in a
household that only drunk tea, so I didn't start drinking
coffee probably till I left home at eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (01:24:38):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:24:39):
And I didn't let my kids drink coffee until labor
in their teen years because because it's a stimulant. Okay,
they didn't need it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
Well, sometimes it looked sometimes it's like riddling. But sometimes
you're given a stimulant and slows them down, doesn't It.

Speaker 8 (01:24:58):
Could do, but I just didn't think it was it.
I did give up coffee actually for about three or
four years, and then I start at university and picked
it up again.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
I think if you give up coffee, there's still somewhere
in your mind that memory of it, and that the
craving never goes away.

Speaker 8 (01:25:18):
I can't remember with our crave for.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
It, didn't you?

Speaker 9 (01:25:24):
Yes, I did.

Speaker 8 (01:25:26):
Started trying to keep awake for study years and lidsit
the movie.

Speaker 11 (01:25:32):
I can't wait.

Speaker 8 (01:25:33):
I would love to see it, Besids saying, yeah, I'm
reading that at the moment when my eyes affected. Actually,
I was reading the book on John Bonham called Beast.
Oh yeah, very interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
It's not a recent book though, was it.

Speaker 8 (01:25:56):
No, it's been around the while. But yeah, he was
a brilliant drummer, absolutely brilliant. It's so tragic that he
was a He was an LP before he got onto
the zip one. He was a huge drunker, absolutely massive
thrial shame really.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
What it drunk? One point for leaders of alcohol the
day died. So yeah, it didn't see an off switch,
did he?

Speaker 9 (01:26:28):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:26:28):
No, he was an alcoholic they I mean he started
when he was a young teenager.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
Say that, say that in the book.

Speaker 8 (01:26:38):
Yeah, yeah, he was well onto it by the time
he got to be Yeah, okay, I.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Run on, thank you, twenty three away from a living
beg a bite your hawks by meet. Well that's the situation. Oh,
by the way, that took Kevin who seems to be
going great guns at festival people in christ you seem
to enjoy that. And what age that your children have coffee?

(01:27:10):
That might be something you want to mention in your
coffee stories. And also too, why are people angry about
Andrey Bailey? I mean, what done savory character? I mean,
what was more unsaved? I don't know the full details
about what happened in the office but the situation calling

(01:27:34):
someone a loser and making the loser signed to them
when you're on a work trip, as the Minister of
Small Business should have gone then I said at the time,
it wouldn't be long before he goes, and he's gone.
The least surprising story ever. When I saw that today,
I think some commentators were saying that we gave him

(01:27:54):
to me, that there was given too much of a
hard time and need to be left alone and we
all look out. They said he didn't do such a
bad job with his ministership, but still had to sack himself.
I think Luxelan was going to sack a bit to
sec himself and fires masters a number of fires. And

(01:28:17):
also in Auckland there appears to be an arsonist in
green Lane. You don't often hear about arsenes, do you.
Seems to be a crime from another era. So I
don't know the situation of what's going on there. A hooded,

(01:28:40):
masked defender. You'll be doing well to get away with
anything these days with all the security cameras around. But
that's the other story that's out there making news. But
if you've got something different you want to talk about,
good I would like to talk to you tonight, Scotchy egg.
That's a meal, boy, boy, that's a meal. Well what

(01:29:01):
a struggle? Yeah, corn beef pie. The corn beef pie
I had in Central for every salty trouble with corn
beef can be salty. The pie was extraordinarily salty. Like
I'm pleasantly salty, Marcus. I started coffee at thirteen. My
boys started the same age. They found it quite useful

(01:29:23):
when studying for NCA. Try and have a later than
nine pm. Though, I wonder in other countries if they
start then are a lot younger. You'd think, like Poland
or something, have the kids on coffee at five. I
don't know about this. I'm just asking you might want
to mention that the age to start coffee and the
MP for the port Way Kato. If you're in port

(01:29:44):
Way Kato, are you happy that he's still there? Because
once you're out, once you've been a minister and you're
sacked and and you're lame duck because you're not going
to put him up for election next year, it's a
bad look. It was a bad look when he called
the guy a loser. And after the arms situation, the
forceful discussion, what they're ever calling it. I mean, yeah,
people wouldn't want to go. You would see the same

(01:30:04):
room with the guy, so so you know he's persona
non grata and they'll just quietly kind of shove him
out of the room. That's politics, But that happened any job.
Never in my life have I seen someone in a
business situation called someone lose or do the l shape.
If you did that in the media industry, it'd become

(01:30:25):
a viral sensation. So anyway, this but what's interesting for
me is that not a lot of people have strong
views on it. In the past, when the MP's have transgressed,
people have been furious, but there seems to be since
were quite low expectations. That's right, I'd go with that one.

(01:30:50):
I don't know if you want to say something about that,
but certainly no outrage that I'm seeing sensing nothing even
much on social media. I mean, people for the right
are saying, well, what about this?

Speaker 10 (01:31:02):
What about that?

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
So most people are just kind of running interference or
trying to kind of change the narrative. Marcus, my husband,
who has eighty four, drank only coffee all his life
until fifteen months ago. He had too many Strokes and
our son encouraged him to drink water. He does have
about one to two mugs of coffee a week or
as Joy Show yelled Jill Marcus, though, who'd you thought

(01:31:25):
it was an appropriate thing? Elvis as a fourteen year
old was wondering why I would think that? Thanks, Oh yeah,
that was the guy around the shows. Well, no fourteen
year old would be into Elvis should be into your
own music. It seems to me like it's manufactured that

(01:31:45):
someone's encouraged him to sing that. That's my thoughts about
that one on ould want to go see a thirteen
or fourteen year old Elvis impersonator. I have quite strong
feelings about that. I can't fully articulate them, but yes, no,
I have thoughts. But that was about four days ago.
We're talking about that Bakerman's best and you's there and yep,

(01:32:05):
nothing comes close. Cricket score. What about this new player
for old the Highlanders a out of gore calling him
to the new Jeff Wilson sixty two four one eleven
overs O'Rourke is bowling. Not a guy I know. Terrible ball.

(01:32:26):
That's a wide flip. What's going on there? What a shocker,
first ball wide, third ball wide. I've got a r guy.
It looks like a tool unit. Where's he come from?

Speaker 17 (01:32:43):
A Rourke?

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
Terrible yeah, lively characters, a rock guy. It's been wide,
run wide, A boundary happened there also looking at the
pitch now, and this is a situation. He's in and
playing a Bangladesh Champions Trophy win this way through to
the semi finals. It's at ral Pindi, roal Pindy. I

(01:33:06):
pronounced that right. I'll bring you the score. Sixty four
for one that's been caught, so it's all right. Started
started Woffley. He's got a wicket. I don't know what
the fourth ball was LB appeal for LB. Don't know
what happened. Then leg by wide, dot ball wide, dot ball,

(01:33:27):
leg by, dot ball, dot ball, wicket. That's been quite
lovely over that one. Sixty four for two. Had it
sort of six o'clock. I had it, had it, don't
know the right directions. Had it to the left of
the bowling end and caught quite easily. Thirteen or fording
balls one, four, one, six, ten, dot balls eleven. Greetings, welcome.

(01:33:52):
I hope it's good for you. My name is Marcus,
how are what's happening? We're talking about the hawks hawks
Bay meatballs. There's a special festival. Here's the fact. You
might know this in a hawks By and parts of
hawks By, in the southern part of hawks By. Everywhere
you go with it be a bakery or a dairy.

(01:34:14):
And the pie Warmer is meatballs you can buy and
they're Dutch in origin. It's quite finements, it's got bread
crumbs and it's deep fried. Sounds delicious. There's a cafe
called the Lilac and here a Tonga street. That's where
it's based from. And this one snack has taken the
whole of that province by storm. And now there's going

(01:34:35):
to be a meatball festival. Regional food good the French
can do it weakened and we haven't got many regional
foods in New Zealand. There is the meatball and hawks
Bay and there's this cheese roll trouble. The cheese roll
it's not that delicious and when they serve it they

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pour butter on the top of it. It just makes
it a bit too full on for me. But the
meatball sounds great, So we are talking about that. It's
spread where bread uh at the Dutch shop at the
windmillin Foxton. They's seldom also or can you couldn't get
one for love nor money? Nor Wellington, christ Church, Fendleton

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dneda nothing in the cargo nothing so who knew this?
Three dollars twenty they cost now at the bakery and
Fendleton most people by two. That's the discussion tonight. And
also is it bad to give your kids coffee? What
about Andrey Bailey the MP? He sounded wormy in that

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news bullet, didn't he with his voice sounded there like
hen't sounded really like he should have actually had a long,
hard look at himself before this happened. He sounded like
a man to be surprised to find himself in the
situation he's in, whereas there is probably slightly more self

(01:36:01):
reflective and showed more self awareness after calling someone a loser,
he probably wouldn't got himself in that situation anyway. He's
gone burger no longer a minister won't be an MP.
He's not saying that, but they never hang around party.
What if you if you're someone that's done a loser's signal? No,

(01:36:22):
the party doesn't want you around because you just become
the butt of jokes. Yeah, if I saw him, i'd
say something to him. Probably anyway, there's that. But some
people say is a very good MP for Port Wakat.
I don't know how, but the ex military I think.

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And in the cricket eighty for two, we are playing Bangladesh.
We won the toss. We put Bangladish into bat.

Speaker 6 (01:36:52):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
And also roadworks, I found that very interesting why roadworks
take so long? And several people rang up about the
Consumer Guarantees Act from roadworks as though they've been getting
crib sheets from somewhere. I don't know where that kind
of talking point came from, but he's telling about one

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or two companies you can go to, So I mean,
you can't really go to someone else?

Speaker 8 (01:37:16):
Can you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
Go to buy the equipment? The big rollers and stuff?
So everything's on the table tonight. My name is Marcus.
I'm looking forward to hearing from your headle twelve eight
hundred and eighty eighteen eighty. Come on, there might be
something entirely differently nice to hear from you tonight. But
why is no one angry about the MP expectations so low?

(01:37:43):
I find that interesting about that also, probably too many
topics out there tonight, but if you want to talk
about any of these things or in the lead Zeppelin
movie Marcus. In the fifties and sixties, Gisbon had two
Dutch bakeries that had the best meat pulls I've ever tasted,

(01:38:08):
Marcus sausage rolls drown and tomato sauce was was once
a nice, simple bar food with Krispy chips, but then
tomato sauce got mixed with mayo and ended that. Around
the same time, malt biscuits changed from squared around like
all of the biscuits on the shelves. Marcus have you
heard him? Won the twenty twenty three Elvis down Under

(01:38:30):
at thirteen years old. Was invited to the Memories of
Elvis fan clubs to sing at Elvis in the Park
and Auckland in front of almost four thousand people. I
personally think a fourteen year old could be doing a
lot worse than singing Elvis. Yes, but he could do
a lot better. He's singing to seventy year old. Obviously,

(01:38:52):
don't watch much cricket as I Raucus one of his
Edds New Quick Bowlers performing for I can see that now.
Very good one of my favorites.

Speaker 4 (01:39:02):
How long?

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
How we tests he done? Monday match?

Speaker 13 (01:39:07):
Is he done?

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
Oh? He was quite a lively over that one. AnyWho
eight hundred will I rock? Of course cheapers. I'm really
go about him now. He is a young unit well
in England. I'll go a home anyway. Getting to Susie Marcus, welcome,

(01:39:38):
hang on, Hi Susie.

Speaker 18 (01:39:41):
Hi Marcus. I'm just bringing up the problem that's been
on Sky TV. I've been with her a TV since Friday.
I turned it on. I said, oh, the picture will
come back. Because everyone else has got problems. I still haven't.
So I rung Sky on the weekend. You had to
wait over one hundred minutes. So I hung up and
rung back on Sunday morning and they said they'll send

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the technician on Friday. So I rang them back this morning.
I said that's not good enough. I've got no TV.
And I says, I have paid my account for the month.
I said, if you don't get a technician in a
couple of days, I want my refund back. And yeah,
they were very nice. They said, well, i'll tell you what.

(01:40:24):
We'll send a technician on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
Thursday.

Speaker 18 (01:40:31):
Yeah, I've tried resetting the box, Marcus, but but nothing's working,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
Yeah, so we're Are you in Southland?

Speaker 18 (01:40:43):
Yes I am Marcus.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
Yep here are I bet you they don't show?

Speaker 18 (01:40:51):
Yeah, probably not, Marcus. I've got Netflix, thank goodness.

Speaker 9 (01:40:56):
And stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
You're paying for it.

Speaker 18 (01:40:59):
Netflix.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
No, you're paying for Sky.

Speaker 18 (01:41:02):
Oh yeah. But she said to me on the phone
this morning. Marcus said, we'll make sure we don't charge
you from Sunday, which was yesterday, until the technician comes out,
and then we'll start charging your bill. But she said,
I won't be paying for these four days while I
wait on one.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
Should give you a month free? Did she say? Yes? Okay,
Well let us know on's Thursday for anyone shows.

Speaker 18 (01:41:26):
Yeah. Well, and something else I want to mention Marcus.
I've just got the shock of my life. I was
working on them for Cargle News. And the adult could
be paying seven fifty to get on the bus.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
I read that too, and I couldn't believe it because
the bus trips are very I caught the bus the
other day and the bus is a very short trip.
It's only ten minutes. It's a two dollars bus trip.
And if they're going to charge seven to fifty for
the bus. They may as well get rid of them
all together because no one's gonna no one's going to
pay that much money for them. It's crazy and the
council needs a long, hard look at themselves to even

(01:42:02):
be contemplating that.

Speaker 18 (01:42:04):
Yeah, well, thank you, Marcus.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
Yeah, I couldn't believe that. It's a pretty it's a
pretty unexciting bus service, Thank you, Marcus. No one's angry
about the MP because he's irrelevant. Who is the Minister
of Commerce small business? In acc he's a minister in
the government. Why can't what you can't get square malt biscuits?
When did that happen? Marcus? Can you please can go

(01:42:29):
to it to Mitch Victory forwarding the Wellington Super Sloan's
car chap on the Weekend Wellington. He's from the Naki
tear at seventy seven. Marcus have lived adult life in
hawks Bay. Never been a piety but thought meat balls
was a standard end z En thing. Oh No, just
a Hawk's Bay thing. Evening Helen Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 19 (01:42:58):
Hi Marcus. I had just came to bed and I
heard that lady talking about sky. Yes, it did go
off on Saturday afternoon. I live in Foxton, and I
rung and I automatically cut me off. We can't take
your phone call. Our lines are overflowed. So this went

(01:43:19):
on for about an hour and then I got hold
of them and they said, you're forty ninth in the
waiting list. And then I got down to twenty ninth
and I had thirty three minutes, and I had thirty
three minutes to the answer to my call for an
hour and a half. Then I flicked it and I

(01:43:42):
tried all the buttons and I flicked the TV on
and it went So I decided that I would ring
them today and I said to them, you know, I
want to complain bitterly because you don't. You can't get
through to people. You're taking our money and the services substandard,
and we don't get any benefits being a long term customer.

(01:44:05):
I've been a customer them for nearly twenty odd years.
We don't get any benefits. You know, you can't get
any cheap deals or anything like that. And I said
to them, you're going to lose customers right left and center.
They're just not interested. They just do not care about
the lack.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
Of service giving did your TV fix itself.

Speaker 19 (01:44:27):
No, she said today the TV they were off the
air and then it came on again. And I would
say I was one of the lucky ones that it
came on again. But it was off for about four
hours that didn't come on to about ten o'clock at night.

Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
I think the situation is the satellite's falling from the sky.
It's no longer reliable. Really, yeah, because they get slock
because no one's satellite TV is a thing of the past.
It's all on the internet now. So they I don't
think they don't. They don't want satellite people. They don't
care about them.

Speaker 19 (01:45:01):
No, they don't. They don't care. And I said, the
skill system terribly sorry. I'm terribly sorry. I said, not you.
You don't have to apologize for something. I said, you
need to pass this on to the powers that be
so they know people aren't aren't happy.

Speaker 2 (01:45:18):
It sounds very reasonable.

Speaker 19 (01:45:20):
Oh, thank you very much. I wasn't feeling very reasonable.
And Christian the other night that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:28):
What we were watching when it went off, Oh.

Speaker 19 (01:45:30):
God, something boring like the Men's bowls or something, because
there was nothing me goals, yeah, something, it was just
some noise And I want some noise in the background.

Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
A noise in the background. Okay, Helen, I love you,
Thank you, Matthew, Marcus.

Speaker 11 (01:45:47):
Welcome, Marcus up. I just wanted to see if anyone
else out there has had this experience of sky But
I had a change of debotads a while back and
went to go and I forgot, you know that I

(01:46:07):
needed to change my sky direct give it. And then
after a couple of months, I got disconnected, and then
and then tried to ring them. I was similar to
the last caller where you know you sit there, you're
forty ninth in q, et cetera. And then when I
finally did get hold of them, I thought one day

(01:46:28):
the smart thing to do would be ring during an
All Black match, and I did get straight through when
the All Blacks were playing, and she said that I
couldn't change because my old email address was hooked up
to my sky now. And then I got a you know,

(01:46:50):
a deck collector started to ring me about it, and
I told him that I disputed that. But I've even
tried to ring back recently, and I think I like
two hundred and forty dollars or something. It was three
months of two or three months but they've almost made
it virtually impossible just to pay them. And then they
sent me a message saying that someone was going to

(01:47:12):
come and pick up my Sky decoder, and that has
been sent to bay Coort, and I just I find
it quite unbelievable that you're actually trying to pay them,
but they make it virtually impossible.

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:47:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
I don't know why they make it so hard to pay.

Speaker 11 (01:47:36):
Well, I think it's mainly to do was that my
Sky now is linked to an old email address, and
that she said you can go online and pay, which
I tried to do, but because it's linked to the
old email address, which we don't have anymore. And then
but even when you try and call them, they say no,
it's been sent to bay Cort. And I'm like, it's

(01:47:56):
just incredible that you're trying to pay the money, and
it's the first time in my life that I've had
it virtually made it impossible to pay someone.

Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
And then, isn't it It just seems like it seems
like they're all over the show.

Speaker 11 (01:48:10):
Yeah that's what I send, and it's yeah, I've got emails.
I can send it to you if you like just
so you can see, no, I believe you. Yeah, thanks Marcus,
we appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:24):
Thanks much too. Also, the age children should drink coffee.
The weird thing is, I think kids are desperate to
drink coffee. I don't think it's said very fashion at all. Marcus.

(01:48:47):
We're in the white Apple. We have no issues with
our sky. The last few months. It's been working well,
working great. We even have one of the new white
boxes Hamish not the white boxes were duds, so I'm
pleased it's worked for you. Trump's been quiet. It might
be as weak end. You'd be watching Fox and drinking PEPSI.

Speaker 14 (01:49:15):
Umm.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
One hundredfty thousand Canadians have signed a petition to revoke
Mask's citizenship. Didn't know he had Canadian citizenship. But there
you go. Another wicket in the cricket, brilliant catch from
Williamson Bold bracewell, Bangladesh ninety seven for three. That's a situation.

(01:49:39):
Now ninety seven for three, ninety eight for three. Now
you didn't won the toss, banged. They put Bangladesh to
bat first. Not many people in the audience mind it's
not the Pakistan team. But still, but they're Williamson's catch
yet to work quite hard for the catch and quarter
it at the full lean Sundra AT's Marcus. Good evening

(01:50:01):
and welcome.

Speaker 9 (01:50:03):
Oh good evening, Marcus, thanks you for welcoming. You mentioned
China and in the Pacific region causing a bit of
a storm. I don't think it's well, hopefully it's a
storm and a teacup. But my second prediction of the

(01:50:27):
year that has now come true my first one did
this is now my second one.

Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
What was your first prediction? What was your first direction, Soundra.

Speaker 9 (01:50:39):
My first one was that they'd be an earthquake and
taelpos No, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
Not that, it's not that okay, yep, well there has
been certainly that yep.

Speaker 9 (01:50:50):
Yeah, yeah, and it doesn't have to be major. But
there was an earthquake, and.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
How do you man doesn't have to be major?

Speaker 9 (01:51:03):
Well, it doesn't have.

Speaker 8 (01:51:04):
To be.

Speaker 9 (01:51:06):
A major earthquake, at least there there was an earthquake it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
Yes, yeah, or although the spirit of the prediction is
to is to predict the unpredictable, so I would say
that the topal earthquake is predictable. But yeah, anyway, yeah,
and what was your second one?

Speaker 9 (01:51:24):
Okay, that China would be looking to expand in the
Pacific and.

Speaker 3 (01:51:34):
Just that really and.

Speaker 9 (01:51:37):
Looking at some action in the Pacific.

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
Already China, I mean they've been but they built the
courthouse and the I mean the China have been involved
in the Cooks for a long long time doing all
sorts of things. So you know, it's funny because every
time that we donate AID money to the Pacific people,
people think while we're sending our money overseas well, it's
quite it's quite obvious why we're doing it to build

(01:52:03):
relationships with those people so as we need to, because
certainly they'll be re vulnerable to Chinese fish canning factories
and frigate bases and all sorts of stuff. They'd pay
a fortune for that.

Speaker 9 (01:52:16):
Yeah, we've got to keep our interests in our loyalty as.

Speaker 4 (01:52:20):
Far as.

Speaker 9 (01:52:22):
Looking after them, we've got to keep better.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
I think I just think something else is going on
here because suddenly nationals talking about two percent of the
GDP for for our military contribution. But I wouldn't want
to be contributing a lot of a lot of money
to a to a some sort of packed with the
United States with Trump in charge, you never know what

(01:52:48):
conflicts would lead us.

Speaker 9 (01:52:50):
To crazy Trump involved, no way, Well he's anti war anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
Trump, But well, I don't know if it's andy. War
is talking about taking Greenland, taking Canada, taking Mexico, and
taking precious, precious fantasy land. Okay, don't get me start,
I get worked up about that. Nice to talk to you.
Saunderd twenty five to twelve. The cricket score one hundred

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and four for three twenty one point twenty one. I
hate how it says twenty one point three overs, because
twenty one point five overs. It's twenty one overs and
three balls. That does my head in more than anything
they say twenty one and three over six. I don't
know why they've never started doing that. You can't put

(01:53:38):
twenty one point three. It's making a mockery of the
whole decimal system. They've got twenty one point four. Actually
it's not twenty one point four, it's twenty one point
six sixty sixty sixty six. If anything about cricket coverage
drives me crazy, it's that they need to write how

(01:54:01):
many the percentage of the over is over? Apparently Winster
was at the Joe Park of fight. Do people see
that boxing, what a sport

Speaker 1 (01:54:12):
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