Gosh there's a lot of seals (27 February 2025)

We're eating a LOT of KFC as a country, plus Marcus has determined the kind of crime he'd like to see citizen's arrests enabled for.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from Newstalks,
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Just out of interesting without judgment, how much KFC are
you eating? Goodness? KFC through the roof. I always saw
KFC was on its last lead. You go to a
lot of the places like a bomb site. There's no
dining in and there's cues for Africa, but cheap. Can
you say cues for Africa? Probably can't. But gee, you're
eating a lot of it. Munch much? Look at you?

(00:35):
What have you turned your ovens into bookshelves? Is that
what you've done? No one's using the oven. It's just
much munch munch out goodness. I thought KFC was once
a year on your birthday, washed your elbows. Didn't realize
it was like three times a weekend for lunch as well.
What the guy seyes are people stuck in traffic? Jeepest

(00:58):
wouldn't be surprised. I don't give it, give them the
old school lunches contract, eh, because Compass haven't got long
to get it in order or somehow. I don't think
the long game is to save scool luncheon. The saved.
The long game is to bury that one. But see
how much KFC are you eating? Are they making a

(01:19):
fortune here? I asked che Gptai how much KFC presion eats?
Would you go more than three times a week? It
seems like you might. I reckon, you have to get
into a habit of eating KFC to cope with it.
For your body, I reckon, if you're an occasional KFC person,
you're suddenly ramped up to have it often, I reckon

(01:42):
your body would rebel, well not rebel, but maybe stage
a coup anyway. So there we go, So well done
with those with shees and KFC because all those other
chicken places are opening, but still KFC more and more
profit despite Popeyes. And I was really surprised to hear that,

(02:10):
googling about that all day about KFC. But yeah, through
the roof. In other countries it's not so good. It's
kind of on the down, it's on the decline. But
here we can't get enough of it.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I had no idea that was a thing. So there
you go. That's a situation there. How often are you
we to get just out of interest? Does anyone out
there just eat KFC? I don't want to talk to
you cheapest anyway, Here's something I predicted that was wrong.

(02:50):
I predict if we had a lot if we had
a hot summer, which we have had. This is not
one of my predictions predictions, but it's something I predicted.
I predict if we had a hot summer, which we
have had, that there would be fan mcgeddon shops and
people would be running out of fans. I haven't heard that,

(03:10):
So something's gone right with the online ordering that we've
got enough fans in stock. I've heard no one saying, Gosh,
this heat and I can't get a fan, So everyone
must have got a fan. To thank you to the
warehouse and Kmart and all those places bringing in so
many of those fans that people need that last a
year and then break. They're up in the inorganic because

(03:33):
they're impossible to fix the stem brakes. If you have
one of those oscillating fans, it seems to be a
lot of tension on something. I don't know where it
breaks on the stem. How many times I can say
oscillating fan tonight, Really it's that more than twelve times.
Probably very good for Mosquitos. The oscillating fan. They like

(03:55):
to detect movement if you've got movement. The mosquitoes won't
hang around. That's way. Any oscillating fan, the fixed fans,
no good oscillating fan tremendous otherwise known as a penis.
It's all fan. Just putting that out there people. My
name is Marcus hddled. I've got a lot to say tonight,
and I'm just getting started. So that's KFC covered who

(04:18):
you were eating so much of it? I mean, it's
been here fifty years. I thought we must have been
sick of it, but no, we can't get enough of
that chicken wrapped in those greasy bits of paper and
those boxes with the grease stains that you got to
unfold in a special way that can't go in the recycling.
People just love it. So there you go. Well, it

(04:44):
used to be for treat for a birthday KFC. Wouldn't
you go there for a treat once a year? You
get the bucket. We wouldn't get the bucket in those days.
But now people just need to be going eating out
of boredom. Anyway, this is not my top I want
to talk about for four hours about KFC, although I could.

(05:09):
I tried to encourage the kids to get into it.
Was on the way home. It was quite good too,
the one in South in Vicago. So I felt bad
saying how grubby the places were because they didn't say
the Vicago was immeculate. The kids went keen to sign
up for a job there though anyone worked in KFC.
I reckon it wouldn't be that much good. They don't

(05:31):
seem to wrap the chicken with much love, do they?
Or the burgers just seemed to throw a bit of
paper at it and kind of wizzard around a little bit.
I don't have any other comments on KFC. I don't
think no, Although they reckon when the archaeologists go come

(05:54):
back from thousands of years in time to look at
our age, it will be the chicken age, and there's
be layers and layers of chicken bones. We eat so
much of it. We had a lot of chicken, a
lot of chicken. I guess it's good quick protein. I
think the chickens are happier. They're not happy, but they're happier.

(06:16):
They're not caged and picking each other these days. I
don't think are you pinterstill fans or KFC?

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Matthew Well, I was just talking to your producer and
I think the KFC. They do those deals, like you
could get five pieces and chips for like twelve bucks.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Wow, how much is a piece of chicken? Would it be?
Would a piece of chicken be three dollars?

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah, it's it's if you buy the single piece, it's
quite expensive.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
You don't get the deals. You got to look and
mix and match. Don't you get the.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Wicked Beings pack or that I love like eleven.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Butts and the kids, and your kids have a sense
of choice, what would you like? Steve and the kid
can pick something they've got agency, haven't.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
They they do they but the Wicked Wings? But the
changing going tach. Now with the fans, I think those
cheap fans. You step on the stand and then it
breaks and then it won't stand up.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
They always break.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
Illuminum.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
It's like those stupid for the heaters that you sit
on them and they want a little wheels breaks.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't use those because they're not They're
very economical.

Speaker 6 (07:33):
Not with that.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I got three wheels there because I like to the house.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
You pick them up cheaply, and it's you're always like
you you're walking around in your room or stumbling around
in your room. And you stand on the feet and
they just then they bend and then yeah, it's all
over for the fans.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
What do the feet look like? Is it a four feet?
Is it a four feet thing?

Speaker 7 (07:54):
Four feet?

Speaker 4 (07:55):
But you can get if you a bit more, you
can get a solid like bass, like a round.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Bass with quite This is a guy that's bought and
broken sledding fans.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Before, many many many. But then yeah, you splurge out
a bit, maybe stand one hundred bucks a bit more,
and you can get a nice oscillating with five blades
not four.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Okay, you've got mosquitoes where you are, and yeah, yeah
a few but not too bad.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
But yeah, that would help with mossies for sure.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Was enjoy anyone that lives. I think it's the strangest
name of a suburban New Zealand and black them but
you kind of wonry what the next part of the
sentence is going to be, Ben Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 8 (08:45):
Oh, thank you Marcus. In the nineties, I was doing
a university course and one of the things we had
as a management course, and there was a study on KFC,
which then was owned by PepsiCo, and basically what was
happening in the developed world. The same store sales were

(09:12):
born as people became I guess more educated or conscious
of their health. And I remember it well, even though
it was thirty years ago, that basically the area was
the developing or third world was where pfc's growth was

(09:34):
all coming from, which you know, is a bit of
a worry of New Zealand's expanding.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
So are you saying we're part of the developed world now?

Speaker 8 (09:45):
No, I think that our sales are booming. That's that's
that's a bit of a worry.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (09:51):
Yeah, I mean I'm not now. I have, you know,
take away, but not not multiple times a week, that's
for sure.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
The other thing that they I don't want to sound
like a bigger did old talkback boar, but I suspect
people have stopped cooking.

Speaker 6 (10:12):
Yeah they may they may well have, and.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
I think they just get the IF's the KFC each well, yeah,
And I don't like to judge because it's I don't
love it. I mean I don't love it like I
like coke. I don't drink coke much, but coke is
a great invention. KFC is just it's greasy.

Speaker 8 (10:30):
Yeah, but I mean it's like anything else. Fish and
chips once a week or once a fortnight. That's fine.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
But I am sounding like a talkback bar.

Speaker 8 (10:39):
Yes, yeah, it's definitely a worry. That's all I had
to say.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
You know, it's for interesting being. I think if i've
I've had two calls about KFC off the bat, I'm
excited about that. I went for a job once at KFC,
but there was a lot of explaining to do. There's
a lot of cleaning, it seemed to I don't know
why I went for the job there, just trying to
think what would have been going through my mind to

(11:06):
been working at KFC, and I can't really certainly not
in the book my KFC experience. I would like to
work once in a fast food place just to just
to see what it's like. I reckon you have a
few laughs if you had a good crew. But I

(11:26):
think what is striking about people that work at McDonalds
at KFC. They don't stay long. It's like three months
and then they're done. They're not there for years. It's
just in for some quick money then gone. Well this
is what I've heard and it's not fact checked, but
anyway we're talking KFC. These aren't the topics for all
of the night. I've got an exciting program lined up

(11:47):
for you tonight, including some extraordinary figures I'm going to
throw at you, some unbelievable figures. And also too, we're
not finished with the citizens arrests because I hadn't thought
about driving. Because once in a while you'll see people

(12:13):
with camper vans, sometimes from overseas. You don't know they
are overseas, but you suspect the overseas, and they drive terribly.
And in the past we've thought it would be a
good thing to take the keys off them to keep
them off the road. But would we be in our
rights now to arrest them? And how would you do that?

(12:37):
What I'd like to do is handcuff them to the
steering wheel. Would that be okay? Because we haven't talked
about handcuffs, but this is the discussion. Thanks you, Paul Goldsmith.
It's day three and I've gone from fishing nets to handcuffs.

(12:59):
Because you can buy handcuffs as a joke, can't you,
or from those an adult shop fur lined ones. But
would you be allowed to handcuff someone to their car? Sorry? Mate,
don't like you driving. You're not going anywhere. Pack the keys,
handcuff them to the car. Call the heat. This is Marcus.

(13:20):
I've made a sitisen's arrest. I've got a foreign national
padlocked to their camp event. I've got the keys and
they're parked on the Bluff Road. Thank you, Lsue Legend,
see you in court. So could you do that? Could
you actually padlock the handcuff them? These are discussions this

(13:41):
government's encouraged and I'll happen because people get round off,
particularly if they're doing ridiculous things in cars like strange
U tuns or going down one way. That's where and
I only thought of this today. That's where I would
get ramped up. Amped up this with bad driving or

(14:03):
maybe someone gives you a fender bender. Oh I get
a Oh you wouldn't take it. Oh yeah, but pretty
silly driving. Move you to there. I'll you and the
mes de demio. Let me just get down your details.
And by the way, I'm sorry, I have to do this.

(14:24):
I'm going to padlock you to the steering wheel. Could
you do that? Under citizens? I mean, no one's asked
that yet. Did Ryan ask that? Notede? Could you tie
them up? But everyone's gonna have handcuffs. I we're hanging
off your belt. Honestly, it'll happen, Marcus, I'm so confused.

(14:49):
How do you pay for KFC in stall? Now? I
always drive through and pay cash. Last week i went
inside there was only self ordered screens. Pay with card only.
I've got no idea. You get the kids to do it.
I've taught the kids to tap it with your knuckle.
That pays, but it makes you look more sort of.

(15:14):
We went to the hardware shop today to buy human
risk size zip ties. They had a huge run on
them and were sold out. Yes, because you would use
zip tize. Of course you'd use that better than handcuffs.
So they use a guatanamo, isn't you just that's what
people will be doing. I've got a lot of texts.

(15:37):
She had a lot of texts, Marcus. Normally I'm asleep
by leaving in the evening. Last night, I just couldn't
go to sleep with this one. I had the enormous
pleasant of listening to you sing. It was beautiful, Thank
you debs, Marcus. KFC has too much I in you fat,

(16:00):
plus that fake spun and gravy to go with restolid chips.
Whatever happened to the heart foundation in Green Tech a
hot summer, Marcus not in Canterbury. Summer has gone missing.
I once won a year's supply of KFC two and
a half thousand dollars. It's the only way I was

(16:21):
over to get over my addiction. TOKFC. How did you
win it? Marcus got to make many KFC burgers with
a bread roll and co coleslaw, gravy and chicken. Marcus
KFC have opened nineteen restaurants in the last seven years.

(16:43):
Now there's one hundred and nineteen KFC's in New Zealand
with a famously bad one and Alexandra. People always going
about that in central Marcus random KFC fact. But the
KFC headquarters in the US is moving from Kentucky to Texas.

(17:06):
Will they change the initials? Jeepers Ay twenty seven, Aaron Marcus,
welcome Marcus head done? All right, good, thank you?

Speaker 9 (17:18):
That's hey. This this citizens arrest thing, this it's just madness, okay,
it is. It's just madness, you know. All that's it's
not addressing the root cause, which is relating. You know,
we're isolating people, the kids. Whoever's causing the who are

(17:40):
doing this offending get to the root cause of it.
We know the root cause of it, address the issues.
Ron Marx made a bloody great interview earlier in the
week around why we are not utilizing the framework around
Mary Warden's Why aren't we using frameworks around the sum

(18:01):
o and the tongue and whatever ethnic background around Arden?
Why are we in the esteem I thought you.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
And I thought you were going to say the root
cause was poverty. That's why I thought you were going
to come through and say in inequity. But yeah, I
guess it's no surprises for not to Ron marks not
to address that. I think what the amazing thing is,
it's the government's come up with us the suggestion to
get the discussion of Christopher Luxen and his performance on
the radio, and they're still and to rest, and the

(18:33):
discussion's just taken off and people have a huge appetite
for it because everyone sees themselves has been victor vigilante.
But the discussion's gone from pepper spray to nets to handcuffs.
So they're going to have to cool it because otherwise
what's going to happen is the Lord's going to pass.
It's just going to be people parading the street looking

(18:54):
for perpetrators to do a chicken wing tackle on and
to cuff them, but cheapest I think probably. Anyway, we'll
keep going if you've got some discussion eight hundred and
eighty ten nine nine to detext looking forward to what
you've got to say, Marcus, we need to take the

(19:16):
keys off them. I drove from christ Church to twice
all oh boy, they just ran, only stopped and drove
in convoy. They are a menace on the road, all
over the white line. Your people start handcuffing them because
taking the keys is not enough. But if the hardware
stores have sold out of zip ties, it's an interesting
sign because yeah, they can't pass it. Won't get Parsley Committee,

(19:40):
will it. Because it seems as though we are a
nation of people that want to be vigilantes. Is that right, Marcus.
I've just moved into a new neighborhood. My kitchen looks
directly at the neighbors drive away. Three young girls flanning,
one a single mother. Uber Eats is delivering three times

(20:02):
a week on average. We're five minutes from town. Well,
it's one of the great things Uber Eats. It was
kind of surprising that people with food didn't want to
eat out of the house. They wanted to eat in
the house. I guess they want to watch TV. But
sometimes you got notice that quite often, was in Sydney

(20:22):
recently or not that recently, like a year ago. You're
got to rest and be empty, but there'd be delivery
people coming in the whole time, taking food to people's
houses as you sit on your own, thinking, gee, what's
gone wrong here? dB Marcus, Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
As a teenager in Auckland, myself and my mates turned
up at the first KFC to open in New Zealand
on the Orlow Roundabout for three days in a row,
and the queues were down the road, around the block
and back again. It took us four days before we

(21:01):
ever got our first kfcites.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Witness to history.

Speaker 6 (21:07):
Witness to history.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Wow, witness to history for what we.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
Used to call the path and on Milk's book bar.
And that's a whole new song. There was a song
those days. I won't go into.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Well you're afer, yeah, okay, I think you're confusing two things.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
There, okay, sorry.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
One is the Ollie's Milk Bar on the right roundabout,
which is famous, right that would have been there then.

Speaker 6 (21:36):
Yeah, that's what we We used to call it the
part of them.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Okay, the song, yes, that which is the Newcastle song?

Speaker 6 (21:44):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
But can I just bore you and the other people
with my story about the pathen on milk Bar and Newcastle?

Speaker 6 (21:54):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (21:54):
God, So there was a guy that came up with
a song called the Newcastle Song, right, which was a
one hit wonder and a very good song in the time.
And do you know the lyrics?

Speaker 6 (22:07):
I do?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
What didn't say about the pathon on milk Bar?

Speaker 6 (22:16):
Well done? And my mind went blank.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Appreciate you. I've got the Internet.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
That's that's why I'm not on Who wants to be
a millennium?

Speaker 10 (22:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (22:25):
I ask you a question that just goes blank. But
outside the path who what are you?

Speaker 2 (22:34):
This nine foot tall Health's Angel, this nine foot taall
Hell's Angel came out of the path on milk Bar,
looked at Norman says, ah, what are you?

Speaker 11 (22:43):
What do you?

Speaker 2 (22:44):
But here's the story, right, there was no pathon on
milk Bar. Oh no, how we're after the song? Someone
opened a path and on milk Bar. So get yourself
in much. You get yourself in much arguments and discussions
about whether it was based on a real milk bar,
and it wasn't. The milk bar came after the song.

(23:06):
So what do you think about that?

Speaker 6 (23:08):
Somebody saw an economic coding and took it.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, but did last while because because the song had already.

Speaker 6 (23:15):
Been that's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, I thought you'd like that because I went to
Newcastle looking for the path on milk bar and then
I had to a deep dive and realize, well, there
was one, but after the song. So good have you
been to Newcastle?

Speaker 6 (23:31):
They won't let me out of the country. I'm too dangerous.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Okay, I wondered about you priors.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
Okay, I've never been to Sydney. I've been to Melbourne
and I had one of those oh dear, I really
am dumb moments. I'd heard that Melbourne had trams and
I had intellectualized it as they have trams like christ Church.

(23:55):
Oh yes, just a little one going round around circle.
And I was ill prepared for the fact that Melbourne
has trams. And my mate we spent a week there
and we had an absolute bore on their trend. Because
you're anywhere.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
We're a tram nut.

Speaker 6 (24:15):
I wasn't at the time. I'm a transportation nut. Yes, okay,
so I'm more railways nut because I do a lot
of railway stuff, and of course I was employed by raways.
But yeah, no, I enjoyed transportation as a concept.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Nice to hear from your dB thinker. Thank you for
indulging me with warning about the pathonon Marc's We have
a generation of young women that cannot cook. Diabetes is
going through the roof. Why is it just young women
that can't cock? But I want to know what the
criteria are for citizens arrest and if you can if

(24:57):
a traffic infringement is enough like red lights or funning
to indicate, because that's going to be busy on the roads.
Very good song of the Newcastle song for those that

(25:18):
don't remember it, I don't even know what year it was.
I feel like it would have been about nineteen eighty,
there would be my take. If there might have been earlier,
it might be nineteen seventy four. As the Internet tells me,

(25:40):
there you go, get in touch Marcus till twelve oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. So what people are
doing is peaking at their neighbors now and seeing how
many times like it over eights?

Speaker 7 (25:54):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (25:54):
What they're doing it again. Munch munch. Anyway, A lot
of people are telling me what KFC stands for any
us vain. Someone said, haven't had KFC for years, but
always like the chips with the seasoning, you can get
cerebos chicken salt, which is pretty much the same flavor

(26:18):
baked in the oven. Didn't deep fry it. I wonder
how long we'll take before we get breaking use. The
first Fortalian from sis and arrest died from fatal stab wounds,
leaves behind wife and three children. Darren tackling some thief

(26:43):
sounds like a lot of fun until the thief gets
hurt or killed. What then they charge the police for
assaulting people. I think pepper strae hot sauce is the

(27:04):
best way that you're not gonna get physically. That's it.
Reporting how often Uber Eat delivers? Is that neighborhood watch?
I love the Newcastle song. Please play it, Marcus. This
guy is not your subject tonight, but I wanted to
mention about Liam Lawson. He has stuck to Red Bull

(27:27):
and now he's a full time driver for them. Really
like him. He is definitely on the way, So so cool.
Rosie eighteen to nine, Hello, Jefferts. Marcus, thanks for ringing
in and welcome.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, I got there Marcus about nine in ninety eighty
seven eighty eight Kentucky Fried Chicken opened and tower. Now
I was a security guard who used to go and
pick up the money. Goodness, but the turnover was so great.

(28:01):
After I was curiously attacked in the car park by
three guys, but we got them, We nailed them, and
so it was not long after I went to my
boss's office in Tarran, who ran the security company, and

(28:27):
they blew the safe up. They only got a little
bit of money in the top part of the safe,
but didn't get into the bottom of the safe, which
held about round about two hundred thousand dollars. Wow, So
the for Kentucky Pride and Tarran was huge.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
How much were they how much were they making?

Speaker 3 (28:51):
They only they only got a uh, we were really
about three thousand dollars out of the top part of
the safe. But what they didn't realize there was a
bottom part of the safe containing round about two hundred
thousand dollars and they never got it.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
And that's probably where the secret recipe was too. That
would be in the safe wood it with the herbs
and spices.

Speaker 12 (29:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Well, when I went to my boss's office one day,
I called in there. He showed me some photos and
what they've done is they packed all the sugar and
all the flour around the safe and blew it. But
they never succeeded. So Kentucky Fried Chicken in Tower was

(29:38):
very profitable.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
But you don't know how much they're making a week
in the restaurant. Would you call it a restaurant?

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Ah, yeah, they did have a restaurant. I don't know.
I just used to pick up the money. But I
came out one night and there were three guys sitting
in a car. Okay. I asked to go in the office.
How long they've been sitting there? And I used to
alternate the times going there, but always on a Thursday night.
I used to pick up first. I used to pick

(30:07):
up between ten and fifteen thousand dollars and they jumped me,
but my boss was there. There was two dobleman's hiding
behind a fence, and my and my German shepherd. We
just nuled these three guys and they didn't get if anything.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Did you have your German shepherd with you?

Speaker 13 (30:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (30:31):
I did.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
I had a German shepherd that was registered as a
security dog, and I just knew something was going to happen.
So my boss said to me, hey, Jeff, you're sure
you want you want us to go ahead? And I said, yeah,
you hide behind Bob Pairs fence with your two datemens.
But these guys come out and go for it. But

(30:53):
naturally we knew that they were there and they were
going to have a go, So it didn't matter because
I didn't the money box. Sure I had the money
box in my hand, but the money box.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Was nice to hear from you, if that's a good story.
Are people worried that people aren't cooking and how often
they're getting uber eats? I mean, people are free to
do what they want, aren't they aren't they aren't they
Once upon a time, no one ate out. Now people
eat out more and more, more money, more leisure time.
I don't know, I don't think we should start policing that. Perhaps,

(31:28):
but people seem to be in a damn lot of KFC.
And think of all the other fast food places that have
arrived in recent times. Of course, the pizzas, and they're cheap,
aren't they? Like about four dollars each and you've got
the Popeyes or the other fried Chickens Fried chicken. I
guess you could say Marcus Beck. Around nineteen anyone, the

(31:52):
fun at AKFCT robbed at gunpoint. There was a fight
with the manager and the manager took the gun away
while the managers on the phone to police. The guy
came back and with another gun. It was fired to
the wall next to the safe as the manager couldn't
open it. After that, the safe was never locked during
the shift, sometimes twenty to thirty k in cash. Well,

(32:15):
there wouldn't too much cash there now would there because
it all be just electronic transactions. I think they take cash,
but they don't love it. These are good texts. This
is a good discussion. This disease seems bad in the Congo.
The crying disease kills you in hours. Because if it

(32:35):
kills people that quickly, it's not going to spread far,
is it. It's killed innate to the people that have
got it. The first case was reported the town of Beloco,
with three children under five falling ill after they ate
a dead bat. Well, yes, bats are great. It's spreading

(33:00):
illnesses because they don't succumb to them. Because they're mammals
that can fly. There's something quite special about bets. You
wouldn't want to eat them. They are specified disease carriers. Bill,
good evening, Welcome.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
How are you to I good?

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Thank you Bill.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
I just want to bring a couple of issues up
about these people that are that are causing mayhem and
the supermarkets.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Sure.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
I was in the supermarket recently and somebody walked out
with a big bag over his shoulder, and I said
to the guard, aren'tally going to stop him? And he said, no,
We're not allowed.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yes, we talked a lot about that. We talked a
lot about that last night. That seems to be common knowledge.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
Right, yeah, Okay, Well I went and took it off
them and there was over five hundred dollars worth of
goods in that bag. Sure, but I want to go back.
I want to go back to something else that that
I did a few years ago. I took over as
a manager at a Shell service station when it was.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Shell what's it now?

Speaker 5 (34:07):
And they were having they were having drive offs. A
Shell gone, yes it has it's taken over by Z.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Oh yeah channel Z yep.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
Yeah. I left when Z took over because they offered
poor salaries, so I took good But anyway, in a
four year period that I was there, they were getting
these drive offs all the time, and you'd ring the
police up and they were you might get caught, they
might not. So I decided to do something about it.
I got myself an iron bar, and they were a

(34:40):
period of three and a half years, I took out
one hundred and thirty windows of people who drove off
swiping petrol. And then the last six months I was there,
we never had a drive off.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
How did you feel? How did you feel that you
did all that? And then when Channel when Z bought it,
they didn't employ you.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
They offered poor salaries to what they're getting.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Because you'd put you you'd put yourself on the line
for them to save their damn guess they didn't want
to bar with you.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
Not really, no, they I mean they just they wanted
cheap labor basically, And I'll not being.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
How did you feel about that risking your life for
their product?

Speaker 12 (35:26):
Right?

Speaker 2 (35:27):
And they didn't actually have any loyalty to you.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
It's a personal thing because they weren't happy about it.
And the funniest thing was that every time the girl
who worked with me for that period of time. She'd
bring up the police and report the stolen petrol and
they would ask which window bill has taken out?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Will you will you be arming yourself up for Susan's arrests?

Speaker 5 (35:53):
I actually believe that something has to happen.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
No, I'm saying will you will you be arming yourself
up for it?

Speaker 6 (36:01):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (36:02):
I would?

Speaker 2 (36:02):
And what would you be doing?

Speaker 5 (36:06):
I mean exactly what I'm doing now? Or if I
see something wrong.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Will you be handcuffs or pepper spray? Or how will
you detain people?

Speaker 5 (36:14):
I did martial arts for twenty five years.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Which which which form karate? Goodness? Keep your calls because
a lot of people, a lot of these law and
order types, I mean they talk at big But you wonder,
Marcus Coreen fried chicken is better than dried creasy KFC
that they were just greasy Marcus. A lot of people

(36:38):
in the food stores started filming the thieves at once. Soon,
of course, everyone's a law an order expert. Twenty five
years ago, my eighteen year old daughter got a job
at KFC and got to make the gravy and a
huge bucket with a big electric mixer. She mixed it
wrong and ended up like concrete and the mixer was
stuck that to throw it out. I would not eat
that stuff. Marcus currently driving state how they went along

(37:05):
the Caakota Coast. Nice night. Seals are plenty in the
first Interrondo sailing tomorrow morning en route to a wedding
up north. Is there anything better? David and Ginny gosh,
I'll tell you what. There's a lot of seals, of
course on the bush. You could see them all. He's
on midnight, Miname, is Marcus welcome? I don't think he

(37:29):
would have broken that?

Speaker 6 (37:30):
May it?

Speaker 14 (37:30):
Well?

Speaker 2 (37:30):
I suppose you shouldn't doubt someone when they say something
that did seem surprising. Legends, greetings and welcome people, Manames Marcus.
We are talking CAFC. Who's eating so much of it?
And if people given up eat, people given up cooking?
Is that the phase we're in now that most people
just eat out the whole time? It might be cheaper

(37:53):
to eat KFC?

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (37:55):
And the kids don't complain? Let us know? And also
to what we haven't discussed with citizens arrests, and the
people seem so dead key on making citizens arrest that
I imagine probably this will freak the government out and
they won't actually pass the legislation. I want to explore

(38:16):
what it means if you're seeing bad driving, maybe even
people texting in cars, does that mean that you could
remove their car keys and pot them in cable ties?
That's what people are suggesting suggesting. A texter has said,
you'll need three cable ties, one for each rest and

(38:38):
one to join them. Someone wants to make spray with
bright red food coloring to start marking the people someone
has texted through. I was walking past H and M
clothing store and Lower Crean Street, nalking around six pm

(39:00):
when two women braise the exit of the store and
middle arms blearing and carrying a bulging backpack in shopping bags.
Doesn't people around? But no one better than nilid As
A forty five kilogram sixty plus woman did an attempt
to intervene, but was shocked when one said that was easy.
We'll have to come back more often. Do you really
think they said that? Ten past nine, Marcus till twelve,

(39:21):
looking forward to your contributions. I don't know the legal
rights for citizens arrests. If you can just stop people
from driving badly, you might have some opinions about that,
for a while their people were grabbing keys and throwing
them into paddicts. I think it was quite alarming to

(39:44):
the FED, so I don't think they like that at all.
I when the police hate the citizens to rest plan
the thing, it's going to cause no end of hurting trouble.
Because what will happen if someone will put someone their
knee on someone's neck and kill them. And even though
that's not it's wrong to shoplift, the penalty for that

(40:06):
probably should not be death, and that's an effect. What
will happen? I would have mentioned sorry about the tapping.
I just realized I'm doing it. Tap tap tap tap.
I think the Canterbrieze and bluff the naval ship. I
saw that. I was looking at it. I saw. I
didn't see it coming in, but I saw it in
the berth. I saw that there are things for the
text that came in about that looks good. Didn't see

(40:32):
any any sailors in town though, mustn't have any share
leave Steve Marcus, welcome there, you get Marcus.

Speaker 15 (40:46):
Hey, it's a big guy that mentioned about boot tolering,
and that's something I thought about long long time ago.
You know, as they're running out the shop. You just
push a button and it just squirts ink over them,
and well, you're going to be seen on the face
if you've got ink or over you.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Will you be making will you be making some up?

Speaker 5 (41:09):
Well?

Speaker 15 (41:09):
No, okay, but that's sort of that's the idea of it.
You know, if you're running out of the shop and
you blow them with ink, well they're a mark man
until he gets washed off, you know what. Think's like, they.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Get off, but what if they're back in their house.

Speaker 15 (41:27):
Yeah, but they're going to be out of some stage
now I'm talking about I'm talking about something that just
doesn't get off, something that doesn't get off in a
hurry like they're going to be. They'll be it's on
there for a couple of three weeks, and then you
can spy them because you can see them anywhere.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Wow.

Speaker 15 (41:46):
That was just that was just a good thought, you know.
But otherwise, I don't know. You've seen that. You've seen
that video probably in the States or something, where those
shopkeepers whack that guy on and on and on. They
do it for ages. Actually it was a little bit
too much, but the guy was just pulling up buckets
of stuff and then it was going to walk out.

(42:06):
That was his second time for the day. The shopkeepers
just laid into him, absolutely laid into him.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
Where do you, Steve?

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Where do you see videos like that? Out of interest?

Speaker 5 (42:18):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (42:18):
Just on when you're looking through Facebook on those rebels.

Speaker 7 (42:23):
Have you seen it?

Speaker 15 (42:24):
No, I mean I've seen plenty, plenty of seen it.
They just get hold of this guy and they just
unstops him, and the other guy just lays into him.
It's almost like he was play a bamboo cane or
something like that, but apparently it was a broom handle,
but he just whacked.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Them duron genuine or faked?

Speaker 15 (42:45):
No, mate, is genuine. This guy's This guy's yelping on
the ground. He's yelping on the ground and he keeps
basking him.

Speaker 11 (42:53):
Yeah, he won't do it again.

Speaker 15 (42:56):
But as as for the shopkeeper's mate, you know, what
are you going to have to do? They're coming in
with hammers and knives. What are you gonna do? Bring
out a machette? Well, then then someone's getting done for
murder or you know what can.

Speaker 6 (43:13):
You do with.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Steve?

Speaker 15 (43:17):
One and one out?

Speaker 6 (43:18):
One and one out Steve?

Speaker 2 (43:20):
With what you're saying, right, mm hmm, do you think
the citizens arrests are the solution.

Speaker 15 (43:27):
No, okay, no, it's going to bring more violence. And
those are ripping in there, they're going to be They're
more than likely on tea. And not that I've been
around it or seen it, but you know, there the
hyped up look at they want it. They want those
smokes and there's five, four or five of them coming

(43:48):
over the counter.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
Yeah, good luck.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
What do you?

Speaker 2 (43:53):
And I mean there's the other question, maybe you stop
selling smokes because I mean, what, what's that product you're selling?
Really well, you know, it's not a great product to
be selling. Is it to be making profit off? I
am cooking bottling peaches right now, but I am a
senior citizen from Liz. Pay your tour, Marcus. I read

(44:18):
someone in Orcan they had a two day pop up
shop for KFC and they did fish in their secret
herbs and spices and proceeds to serve life saving Get
in Touch by Aams Marcus. The crims will wear helmets
to get around the ink tall tales tonight, Marcus. How

(44:42):
about a pigmy hiding in a bush with a paralyzing
blow dart. Get in Touch. It's all about citizens arrest
but what will because probably we hadn't discussed it much.
Probably it's with driving that people get the most frustrated

(45:03):
road ragae road rage. That's what people will get, and
I want to start detaining people. Howry, what's the record
for how many times people have KFC in a week.
It sounds like people having it multiple times. Well, I

(45:25):
will even think probably you could justify having McDonald's more
often than KFC, because I don't know. I just think
it seems you can almost feel your arter as tight
as you go into the shop. That would be my
take on that. If you want to say something else
about that, up for any discussions. Oh, eight hundred and

(45:47):
eighty ten eighty nine nine two text. Also, they're having
good fun on the Warriors plane to Las Vegas. I
think Sean Johnson was on the plane handing out food.
From what I'd read, go figure gonna be a tough
season for them without Sewn Johnson and Tahu and Fanua Blake.

(46:15):
But oh well, by the way, it was a quake
earlier on today in the North Island par Here tour.
It was like a three point seven. Didn't hear much
talk about it in Fancy. The Ministry of energy been
Simon Watts and I just picked up on that one.

Speaker 12 (46:39):
Get it?

Speaker 2 (46:40):
What your dear Marcus Evening, welcome? Tell yo ten ten
out of ten?

Speaker 16 (46:48):
Oh good, I'm about I'm probably getting new to What
are you your nate?

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Are you an eight?

Speaker 14 (46:53):
No?

Speaker 16 (46:54):
No, I think I'm getting up to nine point five.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
What would make your ten?

Speaker 16 (47:01):
Maybe if I got my dinner crops for.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Me, get some cave myself.

Speaker 16 (47:05):
No, no, no, I don't do KFC. And the reason
I don't do KC and I haven't eaten that for years.
I went to a chicken farm or where they bring
up that they make the the or where they bring
the chicken the hens or chalks or whatever whatever they are.

(47:28):
They're eating hen for CAVEC from the day they are
born to the day they are slaughtered. And I'm not
a I'm not an animal. There's not nothing, just been
an animal lover or anything like that. But from zero
to thirty days and then they they're done. But there
was so many hens or whatever you call them, boods,

(47:51):
I'll call them booths, CAFC chickens, and there was like
thousands of them in there.

Speaker 10 (47:58):
It was disgusted.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
How did how did you get to go there.

Speaker 16 (48:03):
We're I was working at the time, and there was
one of my work colleagues his parents had a one
of the Districken farms. Oh wow, specifically four KC. And
it was just it was that was my ending.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
That was it.

Speaker 16 (48:23):
Really. There must have been I don't know thousands, thousand,
tens of thousands of chops in there, but zero, I
two whatever, and then to thirty days and then they
are all taken to get sorted. Don't get me wrong,
because it's not about that that. I'm not anything to.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Do with that.

Speaker 16 (48:41):
But I thought, oh my god, they doesn't even go outside.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
I think that's changed. I'm not convinced about that. I
don't know if they're free range yet. Maybe they're not.
Something will clarify. Thank you, dev enjoy your dinner obviously
not CLAFC KFC twenty two past nine, Good evening, seven.

Speaker 6 (48:57):
Welcome, Hi Marcus, how are you going?

Speaker 16 (49:00):
Good?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Thank you? Sam?

Speaker 6 (49:02):
I called about a month ago. I've got a cat
called Marcus as well. I don't know if you remember me, no,
but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
That's good. Don't go how's Marcus given.

Speaker 6 (49:13):
He's a bit naughty.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah, lively care.

Speaker 6 (49:19):
Very much so yeah, very much. So. Yeah, the reason
I called so about I don't know. Seven months ago,
I was just basically living off takeaways every single day.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Is it the cat there?

Speaker 6 (49:34):
Yeah, that's mozy.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Oh I got two cats?

Speaker 6 (49:37):
I've got four really yea? But yeah, anyway, I was
just living off takeaways and actually, and I got to
the point where I was just not functioning anymore. Wow,
And yeah, I had to stop working. And after about

(49:58):
two months off work and cooking my own meals and
what not, I was sleeping better. I mean i'vebviously after
eating better. I was sleeping better, I was feeling better.
I was more social, I had more energy, I had
more money. Yeah, a huge lesson in life. Takeaways are

(50:20):
just horrendous.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
I think most people would know that, wouldn't they, Sam.

Speaker 15 (50:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (50:27):
I mean it's maybe it's an easy trick to slip
into when you a high stressed work life agreed, where
it's easier for you to just pick up takeaways, And again,
it would probably can you tell me?

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Can you tell me what you were eating of a week?

Speaker 6 (50:44):
It was mostly mostly like pizza, McDonald's, KFC, some meals
that you reheat from the supermarket, but I've never really
the vegetables. It would just be the the easy eat rubbish, stuffy. Yeah. Anyway,

(51:07):
that's my five cents.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Did you because you did you lose much weight since?

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (51:15):
Yeah, I've never been better. I was about maybe about
seventy eight kg and now I'm down to back down
to about sixty five.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
Yeah, and within seven months. I'm just I really honestly
think I've never felt better because me and my wife
made an agreement, were like, no more takeaway unless it's
like good restaurant food.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
And it probably need to happen. You probably needed that
drastic thing, otherwise you would have gone on your whole lifelight.
That was probably quite an important thing to happen for you.

Speaker 6 (51:50):
Yeah, and I think my life would have been quite
short if you carried on down.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Yes, I'm sure you're how old are you? You sound?
Said to way, you're thirty five?

Speaker 6 (51:58):
No, forty forty three? Okay, Yeah, but yeah, many years
after starting my new profession, and I think we're looking
at maybe about five years, I was just gradually having
more and more takeaways because of the stress of the job.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Have you sorted out the stress of the job. Well,
now that your diets better as the stress not affecting
you as much.

Speaker 6 (52:23):
No, No, honestly, I've never felt better, but not going
to go.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
So is your job not stressful?

Speaker 6 (52:32):
That is stressful?

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Yeah, okay, but you haven't managed it's okay.

Speaker 6 (52:37):
Yeah, but I can cope a lot better now that
I've addressed better food and take sleep, rest, to exercise,
social just so much stuff which is probably not directly
because of the food, but certainly impacted by it.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Okay, I'm pleased to hear that from you. Do you
ever go back and relapse and have a bit of
a KFC again?

Speaker 1 (53:04):
No?

Speaker 6 (53:05):
Okay, Yeah. Three occasions, and me and my wife kind
of joke about it. There was one occasion about two
months ago. I had my boy and he's like, oh,
can we get a can we get a big mat? Like, oh, yeah, okay,
but I haven't been there for about for three or
four months. And we went there and got it, and

(53:25):
I don't know what his experience was, but I felt
terrible after it. I just felt bloated. I felt ripped
off because we were you know, it was about sixteen
dollars for two big macs and a couple of days
before me and my wife and made home homemade burgers
for about ten dollars for four of them and so

(53:47):
much more nutritious. So yeah, no, we're not going to
go back into the album cheap the mainstream.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Hang on, you gotta say three occasions you and your
wife talk about very well, what's past three occasions you
get fast food?

Speaker 6 (54:09):
Yeah, roughly about three in the last seven months.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Oh okay, there's not special things. Thanks Sam, good evening, Bob,
and is Marcus welcome creasing?

Speaker 13 (54:20):
Excusing increasings? Never mind about that dirty old breezy KC.
What do you want to get as Burger King Unless
you've got a gold card, you're going to get twenty percent.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Off cheapers, which is Burger King, Burger King.

Speaker 13 (54:34):
It's well Burger King's Burger King Australia. I think it's
called Hungry Jack the Burger King. You flash your gold
card and you're going to get twenty percent.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Off off the whole thing.

Speaker 13 (54:44):
But awesome, yes, off your total bill. I did you
give a King's choice for thirteen dollars? You are you're
going to pay ten dollars sixty for it?

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Broke?

Speaker 13 (54:55):
No, no, no, no, it's awesome. I only go to
Burger King because I'm I mean, I'm offenser anyway. But yeah,
I couldn't go a bit. Once a fortnite, I get
the King's Choice and yeah, and get what you've seen
off off off the bill?

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Have they always? Have they always done the old the
pitch of discount?

Speaker 13 (55:15):
I think so. I mean I've been getting it for
a for a couple of years now. And that, Yeah
to the other the other one, he greedy old chicken.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Do the other ones do them?

Speaker 6 (55:30):
No?

Speaker 13 (55:30):
No, McDonald's, you get two dollars off a cup of coffee.
They've bloody chief skates, the Chief skates Burger King. That's
the whay I go twenty percent off your total bill.
Can't go wrong.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
What's the hang on, Bob? What's the burger you get?

Speaker 13 (55:45):
I only get the King's Choice, which is two burgers,
fries and and you get and I get a a
coke zero and I can go and sort it up
several times to winning all round.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Is it called a King's collection? What's it called?

Speaker 5 (56:04):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (56:04):
No, the King's Choice? But anything anything on the menu,
it's twenty percent off. Like if you want to buy
a couple of whopper burgers, it's twenty percent off. There
if you want to buy anything you want, it's twenty
percent off.

Speaker 6 (56:18):
Wow.

Speaker 13 (56:19):
But I said, I normally get the King's Choice, which
is thirtien dollars, and you get to I normally get
to Whoper Juniors and you get fries and I get
a drink which I'll fill up several times. Yeah, and
you can't go wrong. I mean, pricey Hill Burgers came
awesome place.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Are the people are the people that you talk to?

Speaker 13 (56:42):
Well, if you want to talk to people, you can
a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Are a lot of people there with the gold cards.

Speaker 13 (56:49):
Well, there's a few pinches and I mean I've seen
a few and them and they're paying for it. I says,
Oh you've got a gold card, show you gold card
and plenty of us off the bill. Oh, thank you
very much, sir.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
Not a problem you think that?

Speaker 2 (57:01):
No to tell the people that look elderly that could
flash their card. What are you doing? You're driving an
hug or something?

Speaker 13 (57:07):
Hell no, no, I'm driving a highlight double.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Can you how come?

Speaker 13 (57:14):
Well that's that's when I'm driving. I've got my my
idea on board for her for doing what I do.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Wow, we're never gonna know a secretive way back is welcome.

Speaker 17 (57:26):
Hey, Marcus, how things many Wayne, everyone knows v K.
It's the home of the Whopper boat. I'm looking beyond it.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Yeah, yeah, I am.

Speaker 13 (57:41):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
I don't really know the.

Speaker 17 (57:42):
Whopper anyway, I ring up, ring up about the citizens arrest.
I'm kind of I'm kind of favoring the idea of this,
and the reason being, did you see Ron Marx on
You see Ron mars on TV the other night talking
about the problem they have.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
But boy, racist, oh I here we go for re election.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
He's a mere cardidan, is he?

Speaker 17 (58:04):
Yeah, yep, yep, you're onto it. And he was talking
about how there are a lot of people out there
that are retired police, ex Navy X Army, people that
have got a bit of common.

Speaker 11 (58:19):
Sense and they don't go out and.

Speaker 17 (58:20):
Sort of like skip over the line and do done
stuff essentially, And he was talking about how these types
of people could be brought in to assist or help
the police in areas like that West Coasts a bit idiition,
not many people around. So I'm wondering if that's got
a bit of a pushoil waiting towards while they're going

(58:42):
for this citizens and rest part. Guys, Yeah, what's your
feelings on that.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
We were promised we were promised five hundred more police,
but now it looks like they're wanting to get retired soldiers.
Is that what you're saying.

Speaker 17 (58:57):
Yeah, all sorts of people, retired police, retired, well active
members of fire service, people that have got a good
care of nature and they're not going to go out
of their way and do done stuff and start creating fights.
And you know, it's just so we're going to get
them in the moment.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
We're going to get a vol like a volunteer section
of the police force.

Speaker 6 (59:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (59:20):
Yeah, potentially. I'm not too sure which way it's going
it's but I do like the idea of the citizens
of risk giving out a little bit more power potentially
to security guards. People that can help security guards if
there was anything going on, like the guy said before
about the bear walking out, the doing supermarket, the five
hundred dollars going for walkies, people need to step up

(59:42):
and help out. Rather than sitting back and accepting that
this is.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
A problem, Would you arm yourself for it?

Speaker 17 (59:48):
Wayne, Nah, You've got to sit back and have a
look and pligh up your options.

Speaker 11 (59:53):
Marcus.

Speaker 17 (59:55):
People of my age and I'm not saying a mold
or anything, but you've been around the traps a bit.
You just step back and go, look, hey, this is
the win. We can detain this person. People are going
to start stepping out without army.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
How would you detain someone, Wayne, How would you detain
an eighteen year old?

Speaker 11 (01:00:12):
Well?

Speaker 17 (01:00:13):
Is I'm pretty certain that like most populated places, three
or four people can can quite easily do that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
Step up?

Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
Could you?

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Could you detain them on your own?

Speaker 17 (01:00:28):
Well, that's what you've got to weigh up. You've got
to have the right people to be able to do that.
You don't just go straight out and say some eighteen
year old, big lead and you're.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Going to try and detain them, because I imagine a
lot of these things are quite quickly evolving.

Speaker 17 (01:00:45):
Oh very I mean, hey, you've done due diligence by
calling the cops. You've you've you've rallied other people, and
there will be other people that will step up once
they see a change in the mood or they read
the situation. Essentially, I think it is a good idea
which mister ron Marx he was pushing it the other night,
and he is quite a nice chip. I like the

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way he was thinking the other night. That just kind
of motivated me to talk about this citizens of rest.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Nice tear from you, Thanks so much. Tweet right away
from ten o'clock Jamie Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 10 (01:01:21):
Okyday. How are you Marcus?

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Good? Thank you Jamie.

Speaker 10 (01:01:24):
I was just one to talk about the KFC. Yes,
why is everybody not liking it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
I think people love it. We've never eaten more in
this country. We see their profits are through.

Speaker 10 (01:01:35):
The roof exactly, and I haven't probably like twice a week,
once or twice a week, and I'm always satisfy. I
think it's great value for money. You get a better
deal than McDonald's or Burger King, because if you're going
to go to Burger King, you're gonna have to put
water with it to like make it a little bit

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mushy like they have. A guy was talking about before,
the old guy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
He lives for it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Here's passion today.

Speaker 10 (01:02:07):
I know he was booking through and through mate, Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
He wouldn't say what he did with his double CABU
is cag I know, Hey, I hear the too. I
was like, is he on something on.

Speaker 10 (01:02:19):
The hey, he's retired, he's even burking all day.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
But he's still working. He's on the pinch and he's working,
and he's getting the cheap discount, and he.

Speaker 9 (01:02:30):
Drives the hill up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
I can't work it out, Jamie, Thank you. Twenty two
Away from ten used just through Gene Heckman, the actor
did at ninety five. The story is it gets a
bit more unusual. Gene Heckman did at ninety five. Iconic
actor and wife Bitsy Arakawa sixty three are found dead

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with their dog at the Santa Fe home. They are
found alongside their dog, and they didn't say what the
cause of death was. Now they say they've been found
alongside their dog. I don't know. I presume their dog

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was the I mean, I don't know why I'm saying this.
But his wife was a classical pianist. So for those
that don't know or don't remember Gena Heckman, he was
extraordinary in French Connection, which was one of the great movies.

(01:03:43):
Don't know what year that would have been, it would
be nineteen seventy nine or something, and it was a
tough cop and stripped the car and stripped it again
and found all the great fantastic movie. So mainly the
interest that tonight is about with the citizens arrest how
that works when you are wanting to detain someone that's
texting when they drive or anything like that, because that's

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you're probably more likely to get killed by a road
driver than you are by a basket dasher at the supermarket.
And I want to know what you're going to do
about that, because that's the one that I reckon that
when people wake up to this, they will have the
most trouble getting people around trying to do citizens arrests
for bad driving because I think it might be prolific.

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That's if this damn thing ever gets through, Please don't
want a bar of it. And you kind of wonder
how thought out the plans doesn't even very well foot
out at all, But there seems to be an appetite
for people that can ring the radio and say that
they have apprehended a lot of people. Marcus have had

(01:04:55):
some dealing with the prison service. A lot of these
offenders have already done sometime. Most will resist and are
used to violence. Yes, they must take that into account
if they plan to detain Every forty year old male
thinks he's handy until he meets someone that is best

(01:05:17):
to leave it to the police. Marcus just got an email.
We'll put this to the news room. Marcus just got
an email from Holdaki Planes College school closure as another
shooting thread has been made to the school daughter home tomorrow.

(01:05:49):
I think the if Epstein files released tonight. I saw
that released Thursday in America, so I imagine it'll be
hushed up. Nickets, Marcus.

Speaker 14 (01:06:02):
Good evening, yeahday, Marcus, I got one for you. My favorite.
Just as you're mentioning the texts and drivers, one of
my favorite pastimes is if you see someone texting, you know,
when the traffic's bumping a bumper, slowly edging along and
because if I correct the windows a little bit, yelling
watch out or look out is extremely reactions every time, honestly,

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and you get the same person like three times in
a row. It's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
So are you driving alongside them?

Speaker 14 (01:06:33):
Every time that I'm in Auckland, you know how it
gets on there and it's like you're going along and.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Your egg on, Nick, you're at a car. You're not
a pedestrian, right, you're in a car alongside.

Speaker 14 (01:06:43):
That as well, in the car next to them, Yeah,
and looking at this guy like, oh what an egg
you know, texting and then if the windows down, just
go look and the reaction is and then they'll go
ha ha ha. And then go back text and you
do the same thing and their reaction is exactly the same.
And so and you can get the same person multiple times.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Great, that's a great that's a great thing. Hilarious fat
so you'll be able to cuff them.

Speaker 14 (01:07:10):
Well. Speaking of the reason I rang I was almost
forced into the doing the citizens' arrest. It was about
seven eight years ago on a flight to Alice Springs. Yeah,
and I it was the first time in my life
that my partner, my now wife, and I we had

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been upgraded to first class seats. And they didn't mention it.
They're just like, these are your seats now, oh okay.
So the whole time we're kind of like, you know,
maybe we'll get an extra something, you know, not pushing
our luck. And then I got pulled to the front
by the air hostess about halfway through and I was, oh,
yeah it guys, were, you know, getting sent through our
actual seats And she said, now we've got this guy

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playing up at the back. And it was a guy
who was just fried out of his mind and he
was trying to open the emergency exit in mid air,
which apparently you can't do because of the air pressure
and all that stuff. But it was enough to get
everyone in a bit of a panic. So it was
I was. I was a bit bigger back then, a
few more cag's heavier, And so it was me and

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this other dude. We were next to him and he
we had to kind of hold him down in his seat.
And then after a while he keept playing up. I
yelled out citizens at this kind of tongue and cheap,
because you know, I just love a good story. Tragedy
in time makes a good story. And then when I
said that, the the hair hostesses they pulled out the

(01:08:35):
the cable tie handcuffs kind of things. And then I've
always thought, did they just pull him out because did
me yelling citizens arrest making an official thing?

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Because I was look at the Wikipedia. They have got
different laws there, I think. So hang on, hang on,
hang on. Could they bring you up to business to
first class to recruit you?

Speaker 18 (01:08:59):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (01:09:00):
Actually they could. They could have been sweetening me up
the whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
No, No, okay, so the guy, so the guy just
started playing up. Once you're in first class?

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
Is that right?

Speaker 11 (01:09:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:09:10):
Yeah, like we were putting instead of going to our
actual seats.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
We were like, oh, so where was the where was
the other big unit? Was he in first class as well?
Was he down the back? The guy he.

Speaker 14 (01:09:23):
Was probably in cargo?

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
Okay, No, he was already down the back.

Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
So yeah, so that the hostess held off.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
The hostess has tapped you and the other guy because
you were the biggest.

Speaker 18 (01:09:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:09:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:09:36):
And then it's kind of looking back, I've always thought, hey,
what if I phone? Nah, I'm enjoying my first class.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
No, you wanted to do that. That's exciting.

Speaker 6 (01:09:47):
Yeah, I know, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Did they do that? Cable ties behind his back?

Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
Uh?

Speaker 14 (01:09:54):
Nah? No, they were in front. He was pretty out
of it. And then once we landed the was it
the federal police with their little handguns and all that?
They all came on. Yeah, a little excited. There's something
a handgun in my lafe.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
I wonder if you said citizens arrest?

Speaker 12 (01:10:10):
Was that what it was?

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
There, there we go, bring it on the cable ties.

Speaker 14 (01:10:14):
Yeah, maybe maybe the air hostess was just waiting for it.
One day, someone's going to say it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
And because you can probably you can probably take cable
ties onto a plane to I wonder, well they don't
check for that because you can do some damage with those.

Speaker 14 (01:10:29):
Oh, they would be at least looking at your sideways
if you go onto a plane with cable ties.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Yeah, well people will be carrying them now because you
never know when you're going to come across something. You've
got a citizens arrest yeah, true, Yeah, the school, the school,
the school, PTA meeting goes bad and someone out of line,
you do something like that.

Speaker 14 (01:10:51):
I've recently inherited some of me me past grandfather's leg cuffs.
Don't know where they came from.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Wow, I don't know much about that. They are they
are on the end call.

Speaker 14 (01:11:02):
Yeah yeah, and it's like a longer. The chain's probably
about foot long.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Oh is it like a brother wafare out there when
they're out like picking up rubbish on the sides of
the stret in.

Speaker 14 (01:11:13):
A chain game srow.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
May of Constance, Oh wow, was he was he? Was
he military or was he?

Speaker 14 (01:11:25):
Ah no, no, he he got signed up for the
Air Force. But and then flowing down he talks about
when he had to serve, and that was flying down
to christ Church to start training and then the war
ended and that was a big overseas serving experience.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Wow, well he got us, he got his lead cuffs, brilliant,
nice to talk, Thank you, that's good. He's done his
citizens arrest beat that people. Yes, yes, yes, yes, just
seven away from did not repeating the news that Gene
Hackman and his wife have been found dead. He was
ninety five, she was sixty three. And the dog I
presume found with the dog. I presume the dog is

(01:12:02):
dead also too. That's just news that's come through a
French connection. Think he was a Yeah, I think he's
sung and he's a singer too.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Was he.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Got the oscar for French connection? Very good film, extremely
good film, one of the great catch actually filmed in
New York. I think quite a famous film. Move about
how it was filmed. One of Hollywood's greatest tough guys.
The BBC are saying two oscars shot to fame for
Bonnie and Clyde, French Connection, Mississippi Burning, and Superman retired

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from acting in two thousand and four on the advice
of his heart doctor. So it did well for that
got another twenty one years. His father left his family
when Heckman was still in his teens. His mother eventually

(01:13:02):
burnt to death in sixty two after setting fire to
him met trists with a cigarette while drunk. Goodness how tragic.
Joined the Marines at sixteen, so for five years stationed
in China radio operator, which led to work as a
disc jockey. Went back to California, started acting at the

(01:13:27):
Passidy in a playhouse with Dustin Hoffman The Rest is History.
Moved to New York, shared a flat with Robert deval.

Speaker 5 (01:13:43):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
He was spotted by a former drill sergeant outside a
New York hotel where he was working as a dorman.
Recognizing his former charge, the sergeant exclaimed the new hackman
would never amount to anything weeds and overnight cleaner and
the cries of the building. His first role was in Lilith,
starring at Warren Beatty, bd carste Heckman as his brother

(01:14:09):
Buck Baron, Bonnie and Clyde. Got an Oscar nomination for
I Never Sang for My Father and seventy. Then came
the French Connection. It was the part that made him.
He played the part of the Maverick narcotics agent Jimmy
Popeye Doyle, who pursues a French drug dealer most famously
in a famous sequence in the New York Subway, got

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on the Academy, in the Oscar for Best Actor, and
The French Connection two. He never looked back, never looked back.
Pretty sure. He was in The Poseidon Adventure, one of
the great films, and was Lex Luthor. So there we go.
So one of the great actors of the eighties. I

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guess you'd say, but you know, it didn't look like
I mean, you know, what do I say about them?
If we recognizable the way he looked, so you might
want to mention that. I don't know what you'd say
about that, but he has deared it ninety five eighty movies,

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did all sorts of other things. A proficient golfer, respected painter,
and a mean perform on the race track. He took
part in the eighty three Daytona Endurance Race. There you go.
Can you execute a citizens arrest by proxy scenario? After

(01:15:38):
a wheelchair chair bound person declares citisen't arrest and then
asks you to physically detain someoneun till the police arrive.

Speaker 11 (01:15:47):
You.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Why not? It's getting pretty confluent, isn't it. People are
loving it. I think they need to put out a handbook.
So if you're a publisher, you could put it the
the Idiot's Guide to a citizen's arrest. What you need
to equip yourself with questions to ask how to avoid
getting a hurt As the whole police force become amateurized,

(01:16:14):
seems kind of crazy to me. Get in touch if
you want to talk Marcus. Till midnight. There is a
text from a guy called peanut Finger. There has been
several calls over two and outs nights now regarding citizens arrests.

(01:16:37):
They haven't had a single call from anyone inquiring as
to why people are in such desperate state that they
need to steal food. Surely they can trace us back
to the root cause of the problem. People are doing
it hard. Oh, I think you also mentioned the supermarket Jiwopoley,
wouldn't you? One text makes the very good point, Marcus.
I think in a country where we can't agree or

(01:16:59):
know how roundabouts work, there's probably no way we should
be empowered with citizens arrest. Yeah. I'll be on the
show and people the majority of people have sworn black
and blue that they know how to windicat and roundabouts.
They don't know how to wind to get roundabouts so
they've probably be arresting people that we actually know how
to do it properly. But yeah, what I'm interested in
exploring abouts we're talking about KFC. Why people eat takeaways

(01:17:20):
so much? What is this epidemic we're involved with hitting
ourselves to a sand standstill and they're everywhere. Now the KFC,
it's cheap and the advertising people love it. You drive there,
you're in, you're in there, you're driving there, You've got
your food, your bang, you're away.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
That did.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Instant calories without stopping. Now some people are watching how
many times your neighbors get uber eats and they think
that's bad. For those that don't know, Uber eats is
when you ring up, you might ring up, you might
do on app. We don't have uber eats and in
Vericago of bluff. But with uber eats, what you do

(01:18:04):
is you order food and a deliverer driver goes and
picks up for the restaurant and brings it to your
house and you sit on the couch watching TV, eating
it out of plates made out of corn starch, and

(01:18:28):
then you chuck it all the plastic bag it comes
and you put it in your WHEELI bin and there's
no washing up. That might be the joy. I don't know.
Oh the kids are doing it like this, not tomorrow
kid dig geting neuber eats at school. Yep, true story.
Where will it end? Where will it end? I don't

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know the answer to that. And the point about citizens
arrest Iberia in mind. This has gone on for a
day or two as a topic, but I like it
because people are Some people can't wait for it, but
I think probably people have overrated their ability to detain someone.
You'll need to have ropes and stuff, I reckon. You'll

(01:19:14):
need to also know you're knots. But what I am
curious about is what about traffic infringements like people texting
or running red lights and stuff like that. Would you
be able to arrest them? And how would you detain them?
And would the police be interested? It's about how someone

(01:19:37):
brings up and says we should bring back a specialized
traffic police. You need to be a talkback hero of
the airwaves if you said that. There is also talk
about a four year term. I have no opinion. It

(01:19:59):
worries me this government have come up with it because
I can't quite work out what they're trying to obfuscate.
Gut feeling three years feels better than four. Quite an
enjoy election. But you might want to convince me the
other way. But yeah, as I say, just kind of

(01:20:19):
the way they've explained it in such a boring way,
there's going to be referen I think we've had two
referendums already, and I think the referendums we had we
voted against it sixty and sixty three percent. So I
don't thin there's a lot of appetite for it. There'd
be more of an appetite for people to get on
the wiki backy, But anyway, that's just if you've got

(01:20:40):
strong views either way. But all the excuses i've heard
sound a bit wishy washy to me. Oh, it takes
a year to get your feet under the desk and something.
Well sort it out, have a plan when you get
in government. Just get there and then start saying, oh, well,
you know, like waiting a year to work out what's

(01:21:00):
happening for the fairies. For goodness sake, we probably would
have had the new one by now, Marcus. In regards
to citizens arrest, I'm pretty sure most of these thugs
carry knives, Marcus, four years is too long. We really

(01:21:22):
ever have a one term government, so a party would
likely have been for eight years rather than six. We
also don't really have a limit like the States, so
I think it'd be too much, Marcus. Citizens arrest. If
it doesn't work, the government may bring the army to
sort the issues out, as there are not enough police.

(01:21:42):
Just my opinion. Well, they said they're getting five hundred
more police, Marcus. If I try to arrest you for
an acting grab you, you may say I'm acting unlawfully
and arrest me. And if a bystander butts in, do
we both arrest them for interfering. Luxen made the Dunedin

(01:22:07):
hospital and O Frill's budget job cantled the fairies, ripped,
ripped money from every single government department. So he can
raise our offense for spunning the two percent of GPGDP
billions of dollars over the coming years, so we can
prect ourselves from what the dude is deluded. Bring back
chippy four year term being promoted by polishers as possibly

(01:22:31):
reflection of their own job security. Equally, the bureaucracy that
stops it doing it thing fixed a bureaucracy, not the
democracy lines free. If you want to get involved with
the Shamana. Miss Marcus, welcome. I hope it's good. Were
you are What are you doing? Also talking KFC in
great discussion about that tonight and why we eat so

(01:22:53):
much takeaways? Well, it seems like the ovens are hardly used.
I don't know if that's a COVID thing we got
into the habit. I don't know what it is. How
many times would you have KFSC a week? Would people
have it four or five times a week, like for
lunch and for dinner. They haven't really sussed out the

(01:23:13):
breakfast thing. McDonald's got the breakfast thing worked out, haven't
they with the muffins? Could you have KFC for breakfast?
USA has a four year term, the UK a five
year term works for them. Some would say they have

(01:23:35):
upper and lower houses. That's more of a handbreak on
democracy or something. But yeah, I mean we have a
referendum to be expensive as there's no appetite for change.
It doesn't seem to have come from the people. It
seems to have come from up top. Marcus, you could
play along. This is political. People that vote for national
tend to be high and mighty. Citizens. Arrests feed into

(01:23:58):
the voter's base. There is a reason, please were stab
proof vests. Arrests can immediately turn violent, even into murder.
Polishes supposed to keep the peace, not create conflict. I
would bite you, spit it, you kick your face and
keep your hands to yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:24:15):
Rob.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Wow, your high Brinds. It's Marcus. Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 18 (01:24:28):
Yeah game Marcus. The four year term. Look, I'm a
center right, so I'm favorable of the current government, and
so I would think, yes, great, But when it does
turn around, as it inevitably always does, then I'd be
against it. I think what other countries have. The US

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have these midoom things. They also have the Upper House
or Senate or something. Australia has an upper house, Switzerland has.
I went to a meeting eas several years ago where
the Swiss invested it was speaking and she spoke about
the referendus system. So in Switzerland before the government passed laws,

(01:25:17):
they have to really really think about her heart to
get it right. Now look for their hemphasis referendus system.
So if the national government passed a four year term,
what other check and balance do we have other than
the next election? And because it's the next the year

(01:25:38):
or something that we may not positibly like. That's my
issue with it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
But you like your senior right parties, you just don't
want them to be there for four.

Speaker 18 (01:25:46):
Years, right, No, I don't want the center left to
be there for four years because that will happen as well,
and I think it works both ways. I think I'm
okay with four years if we had a check and balance.
We don't have the usas a written constitution and one document.

(01:26:10):
We yet ourses sort of constitutional arrangements over lots of
different documents, and that that's a bit legally purglety. We
need to check in a balance, and I think they
should be talking about that before they talk about a
four year term.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Yes, I think that Tefy Brent, thank you for putting
that so eloquently. The four year term. Yeah, I don't
think people will vote for it because there seems to
be no real ground swell for it, and it doesn't
seem to have come from a massive petition of millions
of signatures. It just seems to come from politicians on

(01:26:44):
a quiet day. There's not a ground swell type thing.
We've had referendum before it before before for the four
year term. But you want a comment you convinced me. Yeah,
I will not die in a ditch to save the
three year term, but if it culture referendum, which it will,

(01:27:08):
I'll probably at this stage vote to keep it. There
have been refer I can't work out when the referendums were.
I'll do a Google of New Zealand referendums, eh, because

(01:27:30):
it happens actually quite often, but you forget about them.
Referendums in New Zealand there was one for Fireman, wasn't there.
Twenty third of December nineteen sixty seven, the Terms of
Parliament turn out sixty nine point seven percent, sixty eight

(01:27:51):
point one percent in favor of staying a three year
term maximum. In nineteen ninety the turnout was eighty five
point two percent, also for the term of Parliament, sixty
nine point three seen in favor of staying a three
year term. Nineteen ninety two we voted for MMP eighty

(01:28:15):
four point seven percent voted for change, seventy point five
percent voted to go to MMP, and twenty eleven we
had another vote for EMMP. Fifty seven point eight percent
voted for keeping MMP long way that lasts sixty seven

(01:28:38):
nine sixty referendum about six o'clock, closing two to one
majority for a later opening. Also referendum on off course betting,
compulsory military training, compulsory retirement saving scheme, then New Zealand Flag,

(01:29:00):
the New Zealand Flag, possession and production of cannabis and
volumeary euthanasia. Then there was one for the firefighters. That's
what's happened. So I've done it twice, but it's been
thirty five years since we lasted it. Marcus. If the

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purpose of a longer parliamentary term is to create two
middle years where the objectives are getting more things done,
the contrary argument is the longer the term, the greater
the instances of midterm leadership challenges Alah, the English five
year term when they have are evolving door of MPs
BMS Marcus. I predict the New zend voters will again

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reject a four year term at the next year's referendum.
I will vote the same as I did the last
referendum thirty odd years ago, No, and for the same reason.
Three years keeps any MMP government on a short lease
any longer and will end up with a trump want
to be in a mini Argentina won't be there at

(01:30:07):
the next election. He's going to hand the keys to
Nicola Willis and run for the hills. He's already worked out.
He send his hate him Hosking made him look like
a full two mornings ago. Gee, don't hold back. Well,
has he lost the room? That's the thing. The people

(01:30:28):
still are they interested in what he's got to say
because he's not saying in every interesting way. That seems
to probably be what you know. People want the SoundBite,
they want the grab, not the waffle. But he might
get better, he said, once people get to know him,
and that could well happen. I say he's been doing

(01:30:50):
a few of those lifestyle of interviews talking about his
books and stuff. His favorite duets might be the path
of popularity, or maybe not. Marcus. If the politician, if
it's the Polish, is not the people who want the
four year term, then it should stay at three years,
I think would be a mistake at four. If they

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do well, then they'll get voted again for three years.
If not, they've voted out. Prefer the current situation. Regards Craig,
I don't think it's really about where Luxine is going
to be there for the next election. I think it's
going to be a more long term thing like that,
So yeah, three or four maybe they could alternate between
three and four years, keep it interesting and by also

(01:31:39):
two parliamentarians have the option of going early, don't they get?
An early election can be called also too, so that's
something they can do. After two years, they can call
an early election. They have a four year term or
a five year term.

Speaker 6 (01:31:51):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
It kind of sounded better, and I thought about that
before I said it. If I want to go and
watch this golf at the Melbrook, sorry is it Melbrook?
You're at Melbrook? They might drive up there, but zero
interesting golf, but I wouldn't quite like going to live
Sport anyway. Good evening, John, it's Marcus. Hello and welcome, Hag.

(01:32:20):
I've got a wrong button. I've got a bad button, yeah, John, Marcus.

Speaker 6 (01:32:25):
Good evening, Hey Marcus. How's it going good?

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
Thank you? John?

Speaker 7 (01:32:30):
Oh that's great. Hey, four year teams does sound interesting.
I think I think Desinda Dune kind of brought it up,
and she was a enophos kind of moment that we
should head towards four year terms. So what that mean
that mayors and counselors stay in their seat for four
years as well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
I think that would be quite different. I don't know
if I don't know if one would mean the other.
I don't, but I don't know. I believe they're not related,
but you never know.

Speaker 7 (01:33:02):
Yeah, because at the moment, it's all three years all
around the council, Central local it. I think two months,
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
John, I think what you referred to right during the
political leader's debate that Patty Gower was conducting between Jacinda
r Dern and Judith Collins, remember that in twenty twenty,
I'd forgotenout that and he asked if they're in favor
of four year term and they both said they were

(01:33:38):
in favor. But it was during the cut and thrust
of a debate, so yeah, they had both said that
both parties would like it.

Speaker 7 (01:33:43):
Was was that the debate where Colin said she knew
saying or something like.

Speaker 6 (01:33:49):
That in a wind bar.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
I don't I think she said that when she was campaigning. Yeah, yeah,
I'm not too because she's I think she said she's married. Yeah,
I look it it's a long long time ago. But
you're not you're not, are you in favor? One way
or the other, or I don't care.

Speaker 7 (01:34:06):
Oh they're here at the moment. I think it's it's
that we're voted for three years keep the government and
checked and the last ticks you've got about lux and
leading for the hills. Well he's not now because those
ratings are just yeah, they're going to I can't wait
to see the next toll actually because those supporters are

(01:34:26):
leaving jumping the white, aren't they.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
Well of course too. You've got ACT and New Zealand
First doing whatever they can to enliven and strengthen their base.
I mean we'll hear more and more ridiculous things from
New Zealand First about referendums, about the flag, about the
name of the country, about fluoride and stuff like that,

(01:34:51):
and about the COVID inquiry to shore up their base.
And ACT are we doing more and more about their
cabinet for their voters.

Speaker 7 (01:34:58):
Yes, all we want is New Zealanders is a stable
country at the moment. Our backwards they like to us.
At the moment people are leaving the droves to go
to Australia and New Zealan citizens and where only getting
people from other countries here to do the job so
at the moment, I mean, it might change in the future.

(01:35:20):
It's not looking good.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
You're probably going to continue to look But I mean
now there's obsession with keeping rates low because they're spending
so much money on infrastructure and water. Because they were
so adamant on keeping the local water to local councils,
it's cost them a fortune, so they refuse to spend
anything on cities. So there's no surprise that people are

(01:35:45):
moving away. The young people want to go to exciting
and vibrant cities, and those exciting and vibrant cities are
the exciting and vibrant cities where regional government and local
body government do what they can to make the city's
exciting and vibrant, the U said, and they're doing the opposite,
and they wonder, I know one wants to live here.
Don't get me started. We're talking citizens arrests and whether

(01:36:09):
people want to be doing citizens arrest for traffic offenses.
And I guess people need to actually up school to
work out what you can and can't do it this
arrest for. But I imagine from what we're hearing from people,
there is much desire for people to be out there
arresting people. So if you want to comment on that,

(01:36:31):
that's what we are at about tonight. Also to the
four year term, I think people are cagey about that,
not that into it because the politicians that seem to
want it. I haven't seen any kind of ground swell
of people wanting a four year term. Yeah, the campaigning

(01:36:57):
takes a while, but it's not that complicated as it
we seem to cope. So do you in touch with that?
Something you want to mention also tonight, Marcus, The best

(01:37:17):
argument for four year term is that the government's only
three years only make decisions based on popularity going into
an election. That's why most of what we hear us
talk of tax cuts, then health and education spending. If
they had four, six, three, even eight years, they would
actually work towards real change socially and economically. Ben, Thanks

(01:37:40):
for that point, Ben. They wouldn't be as pole focused
or as pole obsessed. Marcus blamed Nicky no boats for
the fairies to barcle Marcus three dollars from avocado and
karorri overpriced. Yeah, wow, mind your avocados have good and

(01:38:02):
bad years. That one year it's good, one year it's bad.
They blew him. Every second year I think mightn't be
a good year. But like most things, if they're too expensive,
don't buy them. Get KFC instead. That would be my advice.

(01:38:26):
So surprised when that guy was speaking about KFC looking
at them and you're seeing the offerings. I think a
lot of I might have been looking in overseas things.
He said to you, a lot of a lot of sellers.
I've never seen anyone eat a salad at KFC. Good evening, Steve,
Welcome to the show. This is Marcus. Hello.

Speaker 11 (01:38:46):
Yeah, you know, Marcus. You're doing good, Steve, Yeah, good good,
I am. Look, you're raised some very good points on
that citizens arrest, you know, weird as a stop and
in terms of like all of a sudden, the people
pulling people over on the side of the road for
questionable opinions and stuff like that. But I think where
there could be some good middle ground, you know, over
the what they're talking about is this retail crime. Security

(01:39:09):
guards not an ow to stop people walking out with
supermarket trolleys and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:39:14):
I think some good middle ground would be if you're
a registered security guard, because there's certain background checks and
everything that needs to be gone through in order for
you to join the profession of being a security guard.
So there's some governance I suppose over character at least,
and if you're in an appointed paid role working as

(01:39:35):
a security guard at the time, they should be empowered
to detain people. That's my icepin on it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
Do you think the security guards themselves want.

Speaker 9 (01:39:44):
To do that?

Speaker 11 (01:39:46):
I think, like a police officer as well, they use
their discretion if at the moment where they're feeling endangered,
you would put your personal safety first. But there'd be
a lot of occasions where, you know, I mean, if
they don't want to actually be adding security to the store,
what are they doing there. There's probably some inherent design

(01:40:08):
to contribute to society and keep things safe and contribute
to society. And once it's happened a couple of times,
you'll probably find the incidences would decrease as well. I mean,
they're just so brazen.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
Now the story is here and mainly thought about that Steve,
is that there was that situation in Auckland and West Auckland,
I think Railay have where there was a guy who
was his first night as a security guard, just a
young guy, a migrant on his first day at work
and he got stabbed and killed. Yeah, And I just

(01:40:41):
wonder if the people coming to do jobs as security
guard long wags is odd hours. They normally people that
are perhaps people that have just moved to New Zealand
and looking for an entry level job. So they're quite
a vulnerable group of people. And now if you're actually
going to pay them not much money but have them
try and stop criminals, I don't think it's going to

(01:41:05):
end well.

Speaker 11 (01:41:07):
You know, maybe it's horses for courses in terms of
you know, the Yeah, I mean that that that's been
an isolated case, you know obviously, so you know that's
that there was tragedy. But you know, if you've got
the adequate supervision and adequate training, I mean, what what
purpose are they serving them? You know, that's not even

(01:41:27):
a deterrent when the criminals know that they can't actually
do anything. You know, I don't even know what service
you know, service are actually providing.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
Well, you know, they alert the bosses that that they
can get their registration number of their car, and also
there's facial recognition stuff so they can not be let
back into the shops. There's all that kind of top
secret stuff. That all the supermarkets have. They're filming everyone.
So I guess once they've once they've found someone stealing,

(01:41:58):
they can say, okay, let's get their rimmage off and
those people are now banned.

Speaker 11 (01:42:03):
Yeah, and I suppose if that's proven to be effect of,
we would have seen a reduction in the retail crimes escalating.
I don't know, there's got to be.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
Some of the Have we seen a reduction? I wouldn't.

Speaker 13 (01:42:17):
I don't believe.

Speaker 15 (01:42:18):
Well.

Speaker 11 (01:42:18):
I heard on the Hostey show the other morning that
retail where they said smash and grabs and they have
reduced significantly. Violent crimes have reduced significantly, but retail crime
had I mean almost doubled.

Speaker 9 (01:42:30):
I think was that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
I think there was a lot of the I think
the violent crime stats came from a fairly shaky organization
as well. I think they are from the police owned stats,
which they said is not robust. So I was reading
that today. But thank you Steve. A couple of texts.
Security guards are usually paid the living wage. They can't
afford to take the risks, but clients often ask them

(01:42:54):
to intervene. Another text, Hello, I'm a security provider and
private investigator with thirty seven years experience. All security guards
need to hold Usificate of Approval, individual or company license.
Often security guards are just laborers in a security guard's uniform.
They need to be paid more and trained more extensively

(01:43:16):
before they can be allowed to apprehend offenders. Yes, I
don't imagine the security guards themselves would want to be
doing it. Be terrifying having to stand there one where
we want to tackle someone. Hi Marcus, I worked as
a security guard for seven years during the mid to
late eighties, had training based on military style for protection,

(01:43:40):
hat of seven sell maglight torch and a fully trained
German shepherd dog. Never had issoes trained in a few situations.
I worked seventy hours a week average wage with one
thousand per week, but ruin my marriage Devo Marcus. If

(01:44:01):
we go to a four year term for central government,
then counsel and local body exections can not stay at
three years. Otherwise we're going to end up with one
or two elections overlapping and campaigning in the same year.
Nothing personal, but there's a lot of my there's a
lot of my fellow New Zealander that came and handle
one election campaign did my OE in nineteen ninety eight

(01:44:25):
on My Oe, I went to the Tri City's Washington State, USA,
four hours inland from Seattle and worked on a potato
farm that nearly grew more potatoes and all of New
Zealand at that time didn't get married, meet you, unfamous,
or do anything interesting, just grew and have some potatoes.
Then came home. Good times. There must be someone on
the potty. Hello, Katie, it's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 19 (01:44:49):
Yeah, hello Marcus. I just wanted to say that. Tonight
on the Graham Norton Show, Alison John the same on
his new album. He was absolutely brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
Goodness? When was it recorded? Do you know when was
it recorded?

Speaker 17 (01:45:06):
Do you know?

Speaker 19 (01:45:09):
There?

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:45:12):
When?

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
Why? She couldn't hear me? But she's gone now, But
there we go that. I don't even know when the
Graham Norton Show is on, but obviously it was on tonight,
was it? But that's a good shout out there. I
don't know if it would be a pre recorded one.
Is Elton still recording? I don't know that. I think
he's cheering his land as well to Graham. I don't know,

(01:45:33):
want he to be like live keep those texts and
calls coming through partinking about the four year term. I
just think the level of cynicism with politicians is rightfully low,
So if they say something's a good idea, people think, yeah, right, Marcus.

(01:45:53):
There are plenty of security guards that manage intoxicated people
at bars. They seem to do a good job despite
things getting physical at times. Maybe it's possible to develop
a strategy to manage supermarkets muzz. Someone says, how about
having two doors out of a supermarket with a space
in between, and if anyone goes out of the first

(01:46:14):
door with a trolley of unpaid goods to security, gay
could press a button and lock them in the space
until the police come. There could be another magency exit
to let other people other customers out. Funnily enough, I
haven't watch Mississippi Burning recently, one of Genie Heckman's best roles,
along with Who's the Era? What about a giant fan?

(01:46:36):
Get in touched Marcus till twelve eleven eleven eleven plus eleven.
My name is Marcus. Welcome. I think the people that
are bouncers at bars, they are a different kettle of fish,
aren't they. They're probably paid better and more skilled. There
would be my take on that one. I think that's right.

(01:46:59):
Good evening, Donna, Hello, Hello there, Marcus.

Speaker 20 (01:47:03):
That Larry just called about Elton John the Fiveling on
the Ground looking show.

Speaker 16 (01:47:06):
He was bloody awful.

Speaker 12 (01:47:08):
Okay, so it was only a couple of year.

Speaker 20 (01:47:11):
Asked how old it was the episodes only not even.

Speaker 3 (01:47:14):
A week old, okay.

Speaker 20 (01:47:16):
But it was to do with some release he's doing
with Brandy Carlyle, and they're both fantastic artists, but their
voices don't work together. We actually commented on how awful
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
So is he still? I mean he's forever retiring Elton John,
So I wasn't sure what happened to him.

Speaker 15 (01:47:34):
Now.

Speaker 20 (01:47:34):
That's exactly what Graham Norton was teasing him about, saying
are you ever going to finish?

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
Saying fair, well, who's Brandy Carlyle?

Speaker 20 (01:47:41):
Oh, she's some woman never heard of before, but her
own I think she'd be lovely and she's singing. She's
apparently singer writer, been obsessed with in all her life.
And she was lovely and honestly, her voice was great.
Elton's voice was great.

Speaker 16 (01:47:55):
Put them together and it was just horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
What's Brandy Carlyle's het do? You know what's she done
in the past?

Speaker 16 (01:48:03):
Way interesting me.

Speaker 7 (01:48:06):
You'll have to look it up.

Speaker 16 (01:48:07):
I don't know if he's.

Speaker 20 (01:48:09):
Not good Brandy car all to believe in angels is
the reckless of lp they're doing together?

Speaker 2 (01:48:15):
Is the fund is a fundraise? Is the fundraiser or something.

Speaker 17 (01:48:21):
To show?

Speaker 20 (01:48:23):
They'll be at the London Palladium and at the end
of March together evening with Elton John and Brandy.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
I already thought he'd give I already thought he'd given up.

Speaker 15 (01:48:32):
I think we all did.

Speaker 12 (01:48:34):
Okay, keep thinking.

Speaker 20 (01:48:37):
That's all it was, but a very recent show TV
three on.

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
An Okay, I appreciate Donald, thank you for coming through
about there.

Speaker 12 (01:48:45):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:48:45):
That's the background of that bloody awful She got a
Grammy success with By the Way, I forgive you? Is
she Olt Country? I don't know. Someone have more information.
She's written a book to an autobiography, Broken Horses, a memoir.

(01:49:07):
I don't know what her backstory is. If she's got
an autobiography of a backstory. Oh yeah, she had health problems.

(01:49:29):
She was diagnosed with a d d DHD as a teen.
She attended high school and I had dropped out to
pursue a musical career after being introduced to the music
of Elton John. She taught herself to play piano at seventeen,
so I guess she had a big inspiration for him.
Get in touch, Marcus or twelve or a four year term?
And citizens arrests? Are you arming yourself? What about people

(01:49:52):
driving badly? And someone did make a point that if
we can't handle the rules around round, about how we
handle the rules around who we can arrest and who
we can't arrest. And you need to collect evidence all
sort of the crimes, because arresting someone is one thing,
but then you've got to actually present the evidence to
court to get a conviction. That's a tricky bit. That's

(01:50:20):
what we are about. And also Gene Hackman French Connection
very good movie. You might want to say something about that.
One of the greats. Actually filmed in New York.

Speaker 6 (01:50:31):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:50:35):
Marcus William Friedkin directed The French Connection. He also directed
the exercise and To Live and Dine in La Wow
Old out Nay going to be around forever. Someone else

(01:50:58):
said how awful it was. Oh yes, I've read that.
Good evening, Neil. This is Marcus. Welcome, Hi Marcus.

Speaker 12 (01:51:10):
I'm just you're saying about the French connection. It was
directed by a guy called Volume Preaton, So it's quite
a long time ago. I guess he'd be going by now.
I wanted to mentioned many many years ago, probably back
in the mid nineties. I was living in Kenya and

(01:51:35):
when my buddy we decided to go to this really
nice resort my wife and I called Mount Kenya and
Mount Kenya Resort or something, and it's beautiful resort. And
just as we were going in, there was a big
thing on the wall of photograph of Gene Hackman and
it said he visited this place yesterday and asked him
a section. He said, oh yeah, he said he'd have

(01:51:56):
been here yesterday, was in the middle here talking to everybody.
Such a nice guy. I went, oh, my goodness, remissed it.

Speaker 13 (01:52:02):
By one day.

Speaker 12 (01:52:04):
But anyway, the funny, quite a funny thing happened. We
went to dinner that night, and then they bring in
and then the city besides someone, and we ended up
in the opposite side of this American woman. And I've
never seen anybody that you couldn't get a word in edgeways.
This woman should just keep talking, talking, talking, talking, and
you go to say something, and you go, yeah, back,

(01:52:26):
and then she poems to start again. My wife and
I are looking at each the one she said, you know,
I'm actually John Hut, you know, the actor John Hunt.
I'm actually his ex wife. He ran away because he
left me this million million dollars I think house in
Mount Kenya and he just ran away. And I said what,
and then she said, yeah, I think he. I think

(01:52:49):
he said I've talked too much. And I just about
it first out laughing, you know. And later on I
said to my mother, I can understand why I ran
away and left her. You know, she wouldn't stop. You
couldn't get word done with her. You just they just
dominate the conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:53:04):
The whole night.

Speaker 6 (01:53:05):
And wow, yeah it was.

Speaker 12 (01:53:10):
It did well it because I mean that would have
been bought nineteen uh, that might have been ninety five,
ninety six or something. She ended up with a million
US a house up in Mount Kenya, you know, I mean,
that's that's nothing to be stuff that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
So why would I Why did he have a house
in Mount Kenya?

Speaker 12 (01:53:28):
No idea, no idea, Why I had a house in
Mount Kenya. I don't know. As I said, you couldn't
get what they made with so it was hard to
ask any questions, you know. But the he's a nice
woman out, very nice person, you know, but they were
crazy specificist, but they.

Speaker 10 (01:53:46):
The U.

Speaker 12 (01:53:48):
Yeah, there was just took it all good fun, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:53:51):
I mean, and unless he.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
Ways or something, but was sh it actress.

Speaker 12 (01:53:59):
No, I didn't get the impression she was an actress.
And maybe I don't remember. I'm mentioning that. I don't
think I get much further than the fact that she
was married to him or something and then he got
off his mark and letter. But maybe she was a
small time actress or something.

Speaker 6 (01:54:16):
Could be that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
It does say on Wikipedia. It says in September nineteen
eighty four, who married his old friend Donnad Peacock, an
American actress, at the local register office. The couple moved
to Kenya, but divorced in January nineteen ninety.

Speaker 12 (01:54:33):
That was the other was in YEH have to be
it's the only one that matches it up.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
Yeah, would that be who gene Heckman was visiting.

Speaker 12 (01:54:44):
No, it was just I think he was just visiting
the resort. I mean, we were lucky because we I
was working in Kenya. We actually got very I think
you got a bit fifty percent of prices and you
know the wildlife parts he got in for a two
dollars or something what everyone else has seen fifty dollars. Yes,
we got very good prices. But it was a very

(01:55:05):
upmarket place, know what I mean? It was very up market.
It was you know, it was an expensive place to visit.
So I think it was just holiday.

Speaker 2 (01:55:15):
I kind of imagine what it would be like, is it?

Speaker 12 (01:55:18):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
I kind of mentioned what Mount kin You would be
like as a resort, and.

Speaker 12 (01:55:23):
It was quite It was quite good in thoses. It
was slightly dated, I think, you know, I mean it
was filled in mid nineties. Something might have been a
bit a better, you know. Still it was probably built
during the British colonial time, so that it still had
a very sort of colonial style. I don't know if
it's changed.

Speaker 6 (01:55:40):
Much now, you know.

Speaker 12 (01:55:43):
You know, there was quite a few of them there.
I went through. It was one night we stayed in
Treetops and which is famous for that's a famous uh. Yes, certainly,
Abidets with Queen Elizabeth went in the Princess and came
out of Queen Yes, and we stayed there. Yeah, we
stayed there one night and that was that was lovely

(01:56:05):
as well.

Speaker 6 (01:56:06):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:56:07):
That was once again it was quite quite old fashioned
and things like that. And I remember, actually quite a
funny story. There was a guy up there. He was
an old European Kenyon or beneath the scent Kenyon. He's
been there since the colonial times times. And he said,

(01:56:28):
I was with the British Army fighting the Malmau up here,
you know, back in the fifties. And he told me
one story. We said, when I went, they always told
us never go outside your tent without your gun. If
you're going to go for a toilet, take your gun.
And he said, I didn't even think. I got up
to go outside and do the toilet, and all of

(01:56:50):
a sudden, I'm I'm urinating. I hear a noise behind me, Russell,
Russell Russell. And he turns around and there's a big
male line just sitting looking at him. And he said,
I just I was shaking like a leaf. And because
he said, I went on for about ten minutes, He's
just staring and was just looking at me, and I'm
just taking and he says, and he just all of

(01:57:12):
a sudden, he just yawned and walked away.

Speaker 6 (01:57:15):
Yeah. Wow, Yeah, a.

Speaker 12 (01:57:20):
Fascinating place, Keny of it really was. It was, you know,
especially if they come back to the Colonial and you
hear the colonial stories and you visit a lot of
these things, and it was quite a fascinating place.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
How long were you there now.

Speaker 12 (01:57:34):
About eight years.

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
It's a good chang at time, isn't it.

Speaker 12 (01:57:38):
Yeah, Yeah, it was, it was.

Speaker 8 (01:57:40):
It was.

Speaker 12 (01:57:40):
It was a great aread of my life, of my life. Yeah,
and you know, just just the people and you and
things like that, and you know, just and some of
them actually you know that they they had good histories
there before you know that the even a personal office.
I got to be very friendly with him, a goodie,

(01:58:02):
and he was actually a friend to the president because
they were I worked, was the biggest casino there, and
the casino the president owned shares by proxy. And of
course I Goody was his cousin or something. And I
didn't realize it until later that you know, Gody was

(01:58:23):
was his friend and I'm not his friend, he's relative.

Speaker 6 (01:58:27):
God.

Speaker 12 (01:58:27):
He was a very good friend to have, so you know,
you'd always be protected, you know, because with anything, you know,
any forses come in and decided they were going to
start chopping heads or get rid of people and things
that you know, you've always find that. Then your neighbors
were mentioned. There's no chance of getting it, you know.
But as I said, I didn't even realize until he

(01:58:48):
told me many years later that he was in the present.
By I didn't even know that.

Speaker 2 (01:58:54):
Was it quite a lot of Was it quite a
destination for international tourism when you were there with actors
and people turning up and ken you because you don't
hear about people guarding the much these days.

Speaker 12 (01:59:04):
Oh, when I was there, it was very Yeah, there's
lots of international tourists, especially down in the Mambasa coast
and things like that. It was very pop In fact,
there was a lot of British people who lived there
at the time. I remember reading in a book there
was about eighty thousand, eighty eighty five thousand British lived
in Kenya at that time. Yea, so it was it

(01:59:27):
was quite a I mean people actually think of it
as if if you look at photograph of Nairobia, it's
all big high rise buildings. It looks like big and
big financial areas in London.

Speaker 18 (01:59:37):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:59:37):
I mean it's and as I say, you'd go to
the bars and restaurants and you'd be you'd generally be
an ex party areas and you'd be you'd be socializing
the other expats and things like that. People think, oh,
you know, there's no way the wopes and you know,
darkest Africa. I think, you know, you know, but it wasn't.

Speaker 11 (01:59:57):
It was.

Speaker 12 (01:59:58):
You know, there's a lot of patios lived there, and
you you know, general Europeans as well. It's a lot
of Italians and quite a significant number of Germans. They
were quite foulkward out there. Of the British, there's quite
a lot of an Americans, quite a few Americans.

Speaker 2 (02:00:13):
Nice to talk Neil, Thank you for coming through.

Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
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