I'm terrified of that (8 April 2025)

What extinct creature would you want to see brought back to modern times?

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from newstalks'd be.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
A seven greetings, Welcome Marcus, till midnight tonight? Where are you?
How are you? I hope you are good. If you're
not good, I hope by the end of tonight you
are better. Or on the men I get in touched
my name as Marcus. Welcome by the way I can
tell you and yous just through. There's a flight. There's
a flight that's been diverted in the New Zealand flight story
being an in New Zealand says an item inside a

(00:35):
passengers carry on luggage is to blame for a flight
grounded in New Plymouth this evening the blend them to
Auckland flight was diverted to New Plymouth with a past
it telling R and Z they could smell fuel coming
through the events inside. So it wouldn't be a big plane,

(00:55):
would it. News A head of flights, operations, your pieces.
They're working to get passages to their destinations. That must
be some carry on item that's not metallic. What would
that be light, a fluid or something. But there we
go that situation. There it did some loops to burn
off fuel or for the airport to clearance lended just
moments to go. That's courtesy of flight radar for the image.
So there we go. If you've got any intel on that,

(01:16):
I don't know what it would be. But that's not good.
It's not bad. It seems like Gaul's fine. But there
we go. That's a situation there. I wait one hundred
and eighty to tendy and nine nine to text. Thanks
for the texts and emails. By the way, last night
we talked about a fantasia, the fact when you've got
to close your eyes and imagine an apple, a small
percentage of us can't see that apple. I don't know

(01:39):
if anyone had me discussions about that today, although I
found my entire family can't see the apple. So there
we go. There must be a genetic component to it.
So no apple visualizes in our neck of the woods.
Not a good thing, not a bad thing, just a thing.
If you missed last night show kind of compelling. Close
your eyes, can you see an apple? If not, you're

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one of us. Most people can see it, which comes
as surprise to those that can't. Never have it's not
a skill you develop. In fact, it's not a skill
it's just the way your mind works. Before today, I'd
never heard of the dire wolves. They must be like

(02:22):
a dungeon and dragon's Game of Throne type things. They
are a wolf that is extinct, the dire wolf. So
I've spent a lot of today reading about the dire
Wolves because they have and I don't often do ear
inverted commas, but they have de extinctified them and there's

(02:46):
now three dire wolves back in extinction. However, I think
there is a caveat for that for us. That we
need to know is that what they really have done
is found from the wolves genes some of the code

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that leads to their physical appearance, the white fur and
the ears and the things like that, and they've changed
the dog's code to get that. So I don't think
it's really the re extinctification or the dextentification of the
lyle of the dire wolf. I think they've modified existing

(03:35):
animals so it looks more like a die wolf. I mean,
it's remarkable achievement and it's the being of many, but
I don't think they've actually nailed it as yet. They will.
I have no fears, no doubts. They're also trying to
bring back the Tasmanian tiger and the Dodo and the
well on the way, there's three competing teams. It's some

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guy that's a serial entrepreneur. He's got a lot of coin.
He got COVID, he got sick. He thought, how can
I make a difference if I'm still alive? He thought,
I'm going to bring back extinct animals. So yes, the
dire wolf from the Game of Thrones, the Tasmanian tiger
last one died in a zooan about nineteen thirty and

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the Dodo. So I thought you'd find that interesting. It
brings to mind what animal from u Zinian would we
want but brought back? Bought beckerrec I'm going for the Whoia.
That's the one umbergone easy, small gestation period, probably entry level.

(04:41):
Then I was going to think what mammals, but we
didn't have any. Then you build your way up to
the mammals. You might want to talk about what animals
you want brought back. I think the hairy mammoth could
be a go. I don't know what other people want.
I think they reckon with the t rex and stuff
like that, because I'm an expert. After reading one article,

(05:04):
So you bring back that after so long because thousands
of years since the t rex, the DNA gets compromised,
fungi and stuff get in there and they change it.
It's no longer viable. So we're not going to get
We're not going to get Jurassic Park, but we could
get animals have been extinct in the last couple of
thousands of years, let's say ten thousand years. Let's say

(05:29):
back to the Pyramids. So have you got an animal
you want brought back? What is that animal? They also
said they thinking of bringing back the In the end
of the vowels, why would you bother? So there's rich
pickings and talk back in that I would have thought, Yeah,

(05:50):
I'd go the who are you? I'd go birds? Bring
those back. I can't think of what other extinct animals
I want brought back. By the way, I think there's
only two white rhinos left in the world, and they're
both female. So they'd be easy to say, wouldn't theycause
they're still around. Mind you long gestation period if you're
going to do sort of stuff on them. But yes,

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there's just two white rhinos left on Earth, Nagine and
Futu Futtu's the daughter. I don't think they're white, but
they're called a white rhine. I don't know too much
about them, to be bradly honest. Rhinos is not my
mastermind topic. I don't know why they're called white rhinos.

(06:35):
Presume they're white. I don't know if they're much whiter.
So yes, if you want to bring an animal back,
what animal do you want brought back? I'd like to
talk about that and this flight that landed in New Plymouth,
and a follow on from last night's topic of a
fan I forget what it's called, but you know what
I'm going on about thirteen past eight. That's the star.

(07:00):
That's a lot to digest, isn't it? The plane and
the visualization and bringing animals back from extra it's happening.
Would we want the mower back? I think Trevor Mallard
was talking about bringing the mower back into the hills
between behind one Uya Mutter, which is not a bad idea.

(07:25):
But yeah, so you might want to comment on that.
I'll be up for the discussion on that. You've got
to be careful because you've got don't want to bring
an animal back for it to take over. I don't
think the moa is going to take over. Are they
be great for tourism? Although someone says could we handle them?
Moa better than the panda? Much better than the panda? Marcus?

(07:51):
Is the power back on Bond Street? After that duck
caused a power cut? Was it a duck? A lot
of ducks down south couldn't believe the big flock that
flew over the other day. I thought, jeep as creepers.
They need a culling. Really a duck. It wouldn't short
circuit it, though, would it? You would think that they anyway,

(08:14):
That's what's happened. The duck. Get in touch you on talk.
My name is Marcus welcome. What animals do you want
brought back from extinction? It was a duck? What animals
do you want brought back?

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (08:30):
And if you saw or experienced have we hadny eyewitnesses
for the tornado today? I wouldn't mind someone talk about
the tornado not quite as bad as the one in
north of Kaitai or the one in Franktin, but cheapers.
Get in touch if you want to talk. My name

(08:51):
as Marcus welcome.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine text. We
are talking a little bit of everything tonight. I've got
other things to talk about, but you've got to get started.
Signs reported today that observations by the Hubble space telescope
have confirmed it takes Erinus or uranus seventeen hours, fourteen minutes,

(09:18):
and fifty two seconds to complete a full rotation. That's
twenty eight seconds longer than estimated by NASA's Voyager two
land spacecraft in the nineteen eighties. Ge Will It's Marcus Wilcome.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
I Will, Hey, how are you.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
What are you bringing back? I think the MOA Yeah,
me too.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
I think because if we could, if we could restore
them to like populations that we used to have them,
and then also hunt them the way we used to
hunt them, so no guns or anything like that, and
we we hunt them with spears. Just I think that
would be really fun.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Games with old school.

Speaker 7 (10:10):
Yeah, and if.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
You're opening up a big tourism market tocast, people are
going to want to come over here and do that
sort of.

Speaker 8 (10:19):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Sorry, sorry, sorry, I hadn't thought of that, because you've
got to hunt them old school.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, strictly strictly because the.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Deer would go because the because the moa performed the
same role the deer too, don't They were that sort
of the higher branch as that go. You'd be in Fjordland,
you'd be doing you'd be weaving nets with super jack
and you'd be running them off. Yeah. Well, goodness doesn't
have much done for the moa though, does it.

Speaker 7 (10:49):
Well?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, and that's the world though.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
It's the world, and we'd have to Yeah, it would
be a hard one to hit over the line, especially
if we flip and got them back.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Well, this will happened. This is ten years away. I
mean you and I were talking about it, but they're
either going to be in fields. Well you put them
in the wild. You've got to put them in the wild.
You'll bring them all back. You put them in the wild, Well,
we'll bring them all back. Sorry, listen, I just talked

(11:26):
to you. Even if you're not there, or you're there,
it doesn't really worry me. But yeah, yeah, it would,
This will happen in ten years.

Speaker 6 (11:33):
That would be insane, because I.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Reckon you just use the you use, you'd use them.
You'd use a Ostrich as a surrogate, wouldn't you. What
do you mean you've got to get an existing animal
to carry to and to get the eg kind of
to mother it, you know, yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, the ostrich.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, of course, yeah, get the ostrich. Next thing, you
got a moa brilliant the next thing. It's worth hanging
around for people. Rosemark Us Welcome.

Speaker 9 (12:08):
Hi Marcus, good evening to you. I think i'd like
to have the mother bird back.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
No, well, yeah, okay, although that wasn't in New Zealand,
but you just have to go where would you go
for that madagescar?

Speaker 8 (12:24):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (12:26):
Kraky? I'm not one hundred percent sure, but possibly.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
But why would you want that back? Because it was
wacky looking?

Speaker 9 (12:35):
Yeah, well that's cool sentimental values only. We used to
call my greendead Dodo because he was sort of looking
like a Dodo. He was old and crinkly.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
And yeah, although it's not the reason to bring it
back just because your grandfather, I can see.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
That's.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, that's fair enough. I can understand that. Why why
did why did it get killed?

Speaker 9 (13:05):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (13:06):
No idea?

Speaker 9 (13:07):
But didn't everything get killed to be eaten?

Speaker 2 (13:09):
I think that, yeah, that's probably what good? Was it
good eating?

Speaker 11 (13:13):
I don't know who tasted.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
I guess we'll find out one day. Rose, thank you.
The birds you want or the animal you want brought back,
who'd bring back then the end of that? Or the
animal you don't want brought back? Need to bring back
the haast eagle to predate on the moa. So you

(13:39):
just want to bring a creature back so you can butcher.
It speaks volumes of the nature of the person. Okay,
it's already got political, hasn't it. White rhino is an
early translation era. It gets its name from the wide rhino.
Never knew that? Is that true? Is it the wide rhino?

(14:01):
I love that if it's true, because I couldn't work
out why it wasn't white? Is that what's called the
white rhino? You think that would have been higher up
in Wikipedia? What is a mistranslation? Second chapter? The way

(14:21):
I know it's Afrikaans, I shouldn't do Afrikaans accent. Loo
get me in trouble. And it wasn't that good. The
black white rhino has a much narrower mouth. Yeah, there
you go. I wouldn't. I always thought the dodo was

(14:42):
a stupid looking bird. And it's always been animated in
a It's always been animated in kind of a in
serious manner. I know that's not quite the right word,
but I've always been a little bit puzzled by that,

(15:05):
like a like a bit in a cartoon. Aren't we
all get in touch? By name's Marcus? What birds you
want brought back? And any washover from people that are
a fantastic? Is that the right word? A fantasia? A fantasiastic?
After last night, quite a lot going on about Facebook

(15:25):
with that one inability to voluntary create mental images twenty
six past eight, Marcus, till midnight? How you're going? People
out there and listen to land? Interesting times we live
in a The th reck of the iPhones could triple
imply it. Price could save us all if we go
back to the Nokia game a Snake and chats and

(15:49):
playing board games off our phones. Mind you, these days
it's some pretty interesting stuff coming up on your feet
in the phones. You notice that they gee, I sit
and watch this. Here goes twelve minutes of your day.
Only got some rain down south too, which was good.

(16:09):
First fire of the year, burning some gorsewood burns hot boy. Gee,
it's like the equivalent of three pine logs for a
gorse log. This is not me in fire mode yet.
That's just to make sure it's all good to go.
The fires burning, well, take the chill off. We'll probably

(16:33):
need to order a bit of extra wood as well,
because the the rest of the gorse would's probably not
dry enough. Yep, get in touch you on talk one
him as Marcus Hador twelve o'clock tonight. What animal do
you want brought back? And would you hunt them? You
don't know about that because of course they hunt and
got rid of them a ridge. But now you can

(16:54):
start de extinctifying them, you'll probably hunt them with a
bit more abandon Are there about sixteen thousand white rhyano
but only two northern white rhino which is a subspecies.
Oh it's like Hector and Maui dolphin. One's a subset,

(17:15):
aren't they. And funny enough, it's the cats that are
killing them after autopsies. You know that, don't you. It's
a Texas plusmosis which is killing the dolphins. I thought
that was pretty telling. Hi callum, Marcus, welcome, Oh hi Killum,

(17:39):
how are you? God? Yeah, real good, thank you, real good.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
I repine we should bring back the Parker.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Hate hang on, is it gone?

Speaker 9 (17:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (17:50):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Haven't there any brought it back?

Speaker 13 (17:55):
I know, last of my last of my heard it.

Speaker 14 (17:58):
It was it was, it wasn't here, it was exact.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
No, I think I think.

Speaker 14 (18:05):
Is it love the pokm.

Speaker 15 (18:07):
Yeah, that's another way.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
There's there's a South Island one which is good to go.
The North Island tacker Hay is extinct. I think that's
the way it works.

Speaker 14 (18:18):
Maybe I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, No, I think the North Island one's good to go.
I think there's another bird that you want to bring back. Oh,
I can't think of that. I think we've got that
Taca Hay and Codfish islanders where they all hang out. Yeah,
but I'm into I'm into that though. Birds. That's what
we want to start with.

Speaker 16 (18:36):
Birds.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Oh eight hundred eighty Marcus, you're right. The African's got
it the way tonal meaning wide a reference to its
square shaped I wasn't right. That was Wikipedia past eagle
all the way from Jim Jim. Didn't they take children
the hearst eagle. I suppose it keep you on your toes,

(19:00):
wouldn't it.

Speaker 8 (19:01):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Wow, Marcus, I'll bring about the unicorn. Yeah, me too.
Start with a white horse and then just engineer it.
Kids love unicorns, don't they.

Speaker 8 (19:15):
Boy?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Oh boy, you get those kids in the unicorn phases.
No getting them out of that. So if you want
to bring back animals, where we're going to put them?
And what is the word for bringing things back? I'm
sure it's not de extinctifying?

Speaker 8 (19:29):
Is it.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Bringing back? I'm just going to think when that guy
said the taka, hey, there is this kind of a
bird that we do want. Well, I forget whether oh
the what's the bird they think with the red wattle?

(19:53):
The one they keep thinking is in the South Arm.
They haven't seen it yet. It's only recently extinct. Oh
you know that one? And they keep sinking thinking they
found some up near the heafy track. What was it called? Anyway,

(20:15):
it'll come to me, Steve Marcus, welcome, you're there.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
Yeah, hi, Steve, ok here, I know I know it
as a true fact. The real reason why rhino is
called a white Oh yes, because when you're in the
bush and it's running towards you, you turn white. Thank you,

(20:47):
good one.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yes, Steve read something to him. The cork cuckles. I'm
thinking of the one with that orange wattle, the South
Island cork cuckle. Gorgeous looking bird, they say something. It's
the you're traveling on the West coast, there's a lot
of posters ask you to listen out for its call. Yeah,

(21:08):
I know, for a fact, I knew that was going
to be a joke. Well I guess you did too,
because I've already said why it was called that someone
wants to bring back a decent radio host. Well who
would you whose bones would you dig up to re engineer?
I'd be curious to know that. Brilliant Wow, it's the

(21:40):
guy that text us MOLDI owned space. Oh yep, anyway,
alrighty Thomas Marcus welcome.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, hello Marcus, God this year and your family. And uh,
the bird of mind would be the queer bird.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, me too, the native bird.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
That's a very beautiful bird.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
And it was kind of needlessly kind of hunted to
extinction by one of those bird collectors to sell all
around the world, all around the world, wasn't it Buller
or one of those guys.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Many it was, Yeah, the British and for you know,
for the feathers and all that, like all over the world,
different birds for women, for decorations and things like that.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
With that white but at the end of the distinctive
feather A yeah plus plus.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Also, you know the problem is at the moment in
New Zealand, all the pests, especially the rats thoughts and
actually they don't study the possum. It is not only
the herbivorous animals, which was greenery. It will lead the

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young native birds in the nests and also the eggs.
And you imagine, you know, it's only twenty four millions
of sheep used to be about sixty million in the eighties,
and the possum sixty eight million of them. Imagine how
much food they eat. And the warmost wall is actually

(23:08):
the possum wall. We're just combined with marino wall by
the war company. And it's so expensive, but it's just
so warm.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
You know.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
You I've tried wolf's possum socks. Thanks Thomas, nice to talk.
They've got hollow fibers or something. Eight thirty five. My
name is Marcus, Welcome. What animal would you want brought back?
Be good to have the we who were burned back
agree with the unicorn, but you have to give it
wings as well, because that's the thing. If you could
start working out what parts of the DNA effect what

(23:38):
kind of features you could design all sorts of animals.
Next thing, they want to make humans better. Marcus the
hearst eagle could be brought back to get rid of
the wild dog issues in the far North. Great idea.
Take out one or two of those tierra and trails.
That would make it more challenging, wouldn't it, could? I

(24:01):
tell you what. They're pretty confident by the time they
get to the South Island, those walkers jeepers. It's about
twelve on the Bluff road today, finishing the tierroa well,
that skip and their step mind of the last day.
They're on their phone the whole time. I've noticed texting
twenty four away from nine. My name is Marcus, Welcome
here to the end. Oh eight hundred, oh, eight hundred

(24:24):
eighty ten eighty. This will happened. And just a couple
of years they have made so much developments with bringing
back old species. Yep. So yeah, it's going to be
a thing. They can bring back anything. I mean, the
shorter it's I mean, elephant takes twenty two months to

(24:45):
your station, so you've got to take a couple of tries,
but get in touch. My name is Marcus, Welcome oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty nineteen nine two detective, there's
something different you've got up for that. World renowned economists

(25:09):
shocked to discover his research was the foundation for Trump's
tariffs gives frightening prediction.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Gee.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
He said, the Trump administration erroneously added twenty five percent
rate to the formula Name and his colleagues had created,
when in the tariff rates Trump and Post should be
four times less. For goodness sake, text calls, emails, I'll
take the lot what he had got. Oh, eight hundred

(25:42):
and eighty ten eighty breaking news when it happens plane
diverted from Auckland to Blenhim because the passengers could smell
a fuel through the air conditioning from one of the
passengers carry on, carry are on, Marcus, Come on, it
would have to be the giant moa. Imagine going tramping

(26:04):
and coming across one of those. Be phenomenal. And there's
so much material over slam. Don't be very straightforward. I
think they've ever got flesh on those things. Those big
caves up at Darkka, they had the whole bit. Easy
to get some DNA, easy to bring them back. Who

(26:29):
would be opposed to it do, I reckon not entirely sure.
Who would kind of kick up Bobsyde about bringing back
the mower. I'm kind of trying to work out who
have a problem with it. Someone would have someone would

(26:53):
bring up some unintended consequences or something. But yeah, there
we go, because they've brought back the die wolves. I
ever knew they were a thing, but apparently they are
a big thing.

Speaker 17 (27:04):
And like.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
That fantasy literature. Is that what you call that? Like
Game of Thrones? It's not really my jam. I know
people it's right on the button, that stuff. They love
a bit of that. But yeah, I try to do
some reading today, but I don't know much about them
at all. But there must be a lot of fossilized
material because the Wikipedia page goes on and on about

(27:30):
them in great detail about the teeth, and you know,
they know a lot about from an animal that never lives,
they know a lot about it. They know a lot
about it. But hugely it's like people love them. And
apparently there was two on Game of Throws of Thrones,

(27:53):
but I don't know if they were cgi or wolves
that were dyed. I couldn't find that out on the
Wikipedia's what I'm on about people. My name is Marcus Welcome.
I think they were extinct because the animals they fed
on became extinct, which often happens. It's not that hunted too,

(28:17):
but the things they hunt were no longer around. Hi, Timm,
it's Marcus Welcome.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Can I Marcus? You're doing well?

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah? Real good? Thank you?

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Okay, So really the Moa guy, someone was just you know,
talking about it before. Just a vision popped into my
head of going up to the supermarket to the hot
chicken display, except you've got to like a hot Moa display.
You that'd be a big thing. Yeah, I think you'd

(28:48):
get on the basket. Would you you need a trolley?

Speaker 2 (28:51):
I think we need bigger ovens too. But the barbecue,
oh you know, come around, Come around, Tim, come around, sure,
or we got yeah, odd Steve, I's got a moer
and we're going to put that on the one of
those big barbecues. Crank it up, hump delicious.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Like a street party, wouldn't it It would be?

Speaker 2 (29:07):
It would be would get the hotak together Mardi Gras.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
You'd get some mileage out of it, there's for sure,
you know. So it would go a long way.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
I don't know how much. Are they bigger than the
big Winn't they the bigger than the email or the Ostrich?
I think I think they're a lot bigger.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
I always thought that, but I don't know for sure.
I'm just going off sort of drawings that I used
to see at Prime Store and think, oh, yeah, you
wouldn't put thet counter one and the bush for sure.
I wouldn't fancy my chances. I don't know. I'm sure
they could navigate the bush pretty well. Obviously not well enough.
I mean they got wiped out, but.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
There were two fifty kilograms.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yeah, no, I wouldn't be up for a running with
one of those, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
That out run.

Speaker 8 (30:03):
Yeah mean all sorts of things, but you have.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
To wear help, have to wear helmets, and the outdoors.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Exactly at least eve an excuse than I had. Wouldn't
look had a face like it doesn't name. But anyway,
I started New Zealand one who go back? So I too,
really knows. I'd like a file of scenes. Tasmanian tiger, Yes,
beautiful looking animal, be nice to try and toss. You

(30:37):
breed it to be domestic.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
I think that was originally killed by Tasmanian farmers because
they killed the sheep. So you probably couldn't put it
in the wild again because they would do the same,
wouldn't they Exactly?

Speaker 4 (30:50):
You'd want to domesticate it and turn it into like
a livestock guardian animal cale dog, you know, like a
what dog, like a candle, like a Turkish sort of
you know, steps of Asia type of dog. They haven't
guarding against wolves.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
I was reading in one of the agricultural papers the
other day that there's a Kiwi dog that's been there's
people breeding a dog in New Zealand that that's used
to garb sheep. It runs around with them. It must
be a similar kind of a thing. What's that called?

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Yeah, I think it'll be probably crossed up with I
think that you'd find a bit of hunt Away in there.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Absolutely just might have been an Italian dog.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Ah, Yes, I'd probably like a bit of mastiff. I
mean mastiffs originated out of you know that type of
thing back you know in Roman times they were used
and then obviously spread out, you know, to the derivatives
we have today.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yes, this was one that doesn't hassle the dogs. But yeah,
I just I try I meant to clip the article.
Now I can't find it. My Oh, here and I
found it. It's a they're gorgeous looking dogs. I'll tell
you what it is. It's a marimam am a marima

(32:26):
sheep dogs.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Nice. Oh, I have a look at that when I
get a beautiful and I'm.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Just trying to work out where they're from.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Lovely dogs and shepherd dogs.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's mentioned too, they're lovely. You have a
look at that, m Ai m a. It's all there, Tim,
thank you. Fourteen to nine. If I I for Game
of Thrones, the dire Wolves, they use standard wolves, but
then they made them look bigger in post production. But
that's what they're about. Yeah, I don't know Game of Thrones,

(33:03):
but they love the die Wolves. Peter Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 18 (33:06):
Get a Marcus. Nice to speak to you again. Hey,
I mean, following this discussion of some interest as regards
to mala, just I don't think I'm clarifying any point,
but just to add that there were several species, several different.

Speaker 13 (33:25):
Would they be species not species?

Speaker 18 (33:27):
But you know the mala came in several different sizes,
So there was the giant male that you've alluded to.
And I believe there are two or three other members
of the genus and they I think the smallest of
them obviously were the more upright stature, but I think
it was a not much bigger than a large goose,

(33:49):
and probably those smaller birds were the ones that the
half eagle targeted. I can't imagine a halfed eagle would
necessarily want to target a two hundred and fifty caligram
beer muff, but behemoth, I should say. And the other
thing being I'm at Doobie. It's about them sort of
doing this work, possibly bringing the maa back, because in

(34:13):
parts of Australia there's a bird known as the cassellary,
regarded as probably the most dangerous bird in the world.
It has a it has very vicious claws and I
don't know if you're in wattles under the chin which
distinguish it, plus a sort of a bony protuberance on
the top of the head. Now, they are regarded as
very dangerous birds and are known to chase people and

(34:36):
have the potential. I don't know if it's ever occurred
to quite easily disembel someone with the and they're an
aggressive bird. Whether the moa would have that same sort
of propensity for violence. I wouldn't know, or we wouldn't
know until they were brought back, of course, but prelearnably
they would have. They would have they would have defense mechanisms,

(34:57):
you know, as having been preyed on by the by
the half eagle. So yeah, that's going to be a
bit of a moot point. I guess that needs to discuss.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
So those defense if they brought them back, those defense
mechanisms mightn't be there anymore, if it was behavioral.

Speaker 18 (35:13):
Yeah, yeah, they may not be the only and just quickly.
The only other thing I'm worried about is bringing these
animals back. I would be worried that some unscrupulous group
of scientists, mad scientists, shall we call them, might try
and weaponize some of these animals and introduce you know,
I can imagine the horrors of them, say, producing a

(35:34):
super rat with with genes sort of that they had
injected from or introduced from from sort of a predator
type hunter and use and sort of weaponizing those animals.
And you know, I don't know, it's a good thing
so much to be to be fiddling around with all
this sort of thing. Really, I don't know remains to

(35:56):
be seen.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Shall we say nice to talk, Peter. I think there
are the bioweth usists very much involved, that they are
looking at climate change kind of advantages to back the
willy mammoth and things like that as far as the workday.
But yeah, look I'm hearing you on that one. I'm
hearing you. We are talking bringing back animals from extinction.
At seven from nine, nice bee to thank you. Someone

(36:19):
has sent me an extremely interesting article right about a
penguin colony in Australia and the penguins were declining in numbers.
So they had a guy called Swampy Marsh, which is
I think everyone with a surname with Marsh is called Swampy.

(36:39):
And they decided to get Marima dogs on the island
to stop the predators. And these dogs have saved the penguins.
It's a beautiful story. Go to Warnamblue Warnamblue penguins dot
com dot It's a naussy story. The gorgeous white dogs

(37:02):
nicer than a husky, not as mean looking as a husky.
Very interesting. You can donate, but yeah, that's an amazing story. Marcus.
You are talking about bringing animals back from extinction and
already talking about hunting them. Really more animals suffering at

(37:25):
the hands of humans. Well, if they bring Moa back,
well I suppose we don't hunt all birds, do we. Yeah,
that's a good point. Okay, fair enough, Marcus. It's pointless

(37:47):
bringing any extinct animal back humans will only be cruel
to them. We can't look after the living humans animals now,
we are not God's let them rest in peace, cheers Margaret,
So strong vibe for not bringing them back.

Speaker 16 (38:01):
Hmm.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
It's interesting. And of course everything eventually becomes extinct, doesn't it,
even us? Greetings and welcome. Just getting the mood lighting
worked in the office. I'm big on that now, the
evening mood lighting. Oh marvelous. How are you going, people?
What's happening? Where are you? What's happening in your small world? People?

(38:26):
Greetings and welcome, Heredle twelve o'clock Moname is Marcus? Good evening?
A cup of tea For the next hour. We are
talking about extinction because they've brought back the Lire wolf. Well,
when I say they've brought it back, they've kind of
brought it back. It's not a perfect copy, but it's

(38:52):
got most of the traits They haven't got all the
DNA of it, but what they've achieved in two years
is extraordinary. They've spent hundreds of millions of dollars and
they're bringing back animals. They bring back the Dodo, the
dire wolf, and they're also trying to bring back the
Tasmanian tiger and the Dodos. That's what they're working on,
and I think the wooly memoth as well. So the
question I was asking what animals if you could, what

(39:14):
animals should we bring back? And should we bring back
animals because I think probably some people have really said
they want to hunt them. Yeah, it's a lot of
you here to bring back something just to hunt. The other
thing I saw online today and I don't spend a

(39:35):
long time on my phone. I spent a lot of
time most of my time on the farm. However, I
saw a advertisement that you could go what riding on
a Kawasaki mechanical horse. Is that an april fool's thing?
Like this mechanical horse rides through the woods and anyone
else see that. I thought it was a bit late

(39:58):
for it to be aprils. I couldn't work there or
not that I got distracted anyway, I'll get to the texts.
But what them or would you bring back? Would be
a bad thing to I mean, if it brought back
them all, we would we put it. We could put
it on Stuart Island because that's kind of a good
place for it. I'm pretty sure they were there, Marcus,

(40:26):
don't know you. I don't know about you, but I
definite wouldn't want to come across the Morrow and the wild.
They're bloody, huge ostriches and EMUs are scary enough. Marcus
really loved the show last night on the shadow problem.
How do you spell the medical term? Can't fight it
on Google? Cheers, John, you've texted them back? Have your
Dan legend. Let's go for bringing back the neend of Thales?

(40:50):
Who want the end of Thales? So what animal do
you want brought back? And what about these dogs that
mix with the sheep and protect them. I'm pretty interesting those,
So that might be something I want to talk about
as well. And you might have some information about the

(41:13):
plane that got diverted to you Plymouth, if you're someone
that knows someone on that one. What was it that
the passager had? But of a weird story that one?
Come on, let's crack into it. Sheep protected dogs, Yeah,
they're pretty amazing, and now they're predicting penguins, bengalingans. Anyone

(41:35):
predicted that any animals would come back down? I think
that we have had there some predictions, haven't we and
previous years, but not always. The way is that the
one year that don't predicted it happens. Anyone predict that
Trump was going to destroy the planet with a Teriff
plan generated by chet GPT Here til midnight. My name

(42:00):
is Marcus Welcome. Anything goes, but mainly it's about what
you want de extincted and what's a better word than
the extinct that like brought back, brought back? It's here
from If you want to talk about that, my name
is Marcus Welcome. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine

(42:22):
two nine two to text. Yeah, come on, come on,
let's hear from you. If something different you want to mention,
I don't know what that is yet. I don't really
want to talk about high schools being incaffeinating energy drinks.

(42:45):
I mean we could, but it's pretty kind of oh yes,
oh no, I don't even know what people would say
about that, but that might be something you can mention also,
but yes, what creature would you like brought back? There's extinct.
I mean this is just speculation, but if you brought
them owers back, where would we put them? There's such
a magnificent but I don't know if they're if they

(43:06):
never know what they next, and if they next were
up high or down low. I think they're more like
a kiwi. But you can't just have a small population
just in a zoo because that's cruel to them. So
they put them right back into our outdoors, into fieldland.
Just have a discussion on that. When if we start
with a huiah, they're kind of less threatening and beautiful.

(43:31):
If we bring back the dawn Chorus, come on this
or anything else you want to mention tonight people there
might be and also always lovely to talk about those
people that can't visualize images. A fantas are a fantasia

(43:54):
a fantasia. What do you think of Minecraft?

Speaker 7 (44:01):
Dan? Terrible?

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yeah, the kids seemed like I said, you got bad reviews,
but it's been He'll be incredibly high high growth. Both
kids went independently and both loved it. I said, what
happens is about mindecraft is about people going into ey
it's about people that get through a portal. Thought of
the bitch. It was the portal. They seem to love it,

(44:26):
only they are nine and eleven. Hey, short week. I've
just realized that this week short week. Next week is
short week. I'll be working from Tuesday, Wednesday Thursday next week.

(44:48):
I think it's important for broadcasters to work when people
have the ability to listen to the radio. I think
the scamming ten days with three days off is despicable.
I have very strong fair I don't know why I'm
so righteous about that anyway. But we'll see who turns

(45:11):
up to work on next Tuesday. I'll make a list. Dean,
it's Marcus. Welcome, Get a Marcus.

Speaker 5 (45:21):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Dean? You're close to a point of you got You've
got a close matter with your conversation. You sort of
leaned into that, didn't you.

Speaker 16 (45:31):
I made a point of not asking you how you
are because everyone asks that, and I guess it becomes
a little tiring.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yes, and what if I wasn't good?

Speaker 16 (45:42):
Well, would people really want to know?

Speaker 14 (45:44):
No?

Speaker 2 (45:44):
And you wouldn't. You wouldn't want to You wouldn't want
to raid on the parade, would you? I mean, you know, well, funny,
should mention that this is going on for me be terrible?
You'd twitch off instantly.

Speaker 16 (45:53):
Terrible, actually, man, yeah, terribly, Yeah, exactly terribly. I was
going to say, just to put it in the American megafauna.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Tell me about that. What are we talking?

Speaker 16 (46:06):
Well, I'm calling from Los Angeles right now, but I'm
a big, big time fan of yours and Kiri Originally.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Do you live in Los Angeles?

Speaker 13 (46:19):
I do?

Speaker 5 (46:19):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
What are the tar pets? They always go on about,
did they have they're loaded with fossils?

Speaker 5 (46:24):
Are they they?

Speaker 16 (46:27):
They were, and apparently they went into some of the megafauna,
went in there. They had the giant sloth, They had
all sorts of crazy big animals, mammoths and all of
that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Apparently, can you go can you go and see them?

Speaker 16 (46:45):
Well, they have like statues of them, now you don't
have the actual ones.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Okay, but but are the tar pets still like a
scientific site or they've just developed them.

Speaker 19 (46:55):
They've developed them at the back of a museum in
a kind of way. Yeah, underground and all around there
there's you know, there's all sorts of you know, active
oil fields as well. So I guess it was petroleum
and the tar bubbling up through the ground that ended
up into what we you know, pump out for gasoline

(47:18):
and all that kind of stuff. Now it's all very
bubbling close to the surface around here.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
So are we talking? How big are the sloths?

Speaker 16 (47:28):
They used to have a giant sloth and they used
to have the wooly mammoths as well, but they used
to have like very large cats as well.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Here, what would you do if you brought back like
the saber toothed cat or the giant sloth twenty feet long? Right,
it's big in it.

Speaker 16 (47:47):
It's fair sized for a sloth for sure.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
What are you going to just have to.

Speaker 16 (47:51):
Hope it was slow enough?

Speaker 2 (47:52):
What are you going to do with it? You're going
to release it in the wild or just have them
in big zoos because that's no fun for anyone, is it?

Speaker 4 (47:59):
No?

Speaker 5 (47:59):
Exactly?

Speaker 16 (48:00):
And as you were saying before, people just didn't starting
to want to hunt them or something like that.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Well, it seems it's either zoos or hunting them. Anything
else is like people get freaked out because they're gonna
start invading your proper I mean, it's it's gonna be
a fine line what can come back and be controlled.

Speaker 16 (48:15):
Eh, I guess there's that, and well there's also the
humans need to control things. I guess it's is it
interesting to see if the experiment comes through or is
it interesting to have them around? I mean, yeah, I
don't know if I want one around my backyard.

Speaker 9 (48:32):
No.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
I mean people's freaked out by standard wolves anyway, aren't they.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Yes?

Speaker 16 (48:39):
Yeah, And plenty of code's around here too, And they're
just little wild dogs. They're about the size of a
border Collie.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Are they sweet or do you know?

Speaker 16 (48:49):
Straight away if you have a pet dog, they're a
bit of a worry.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Okay, because I detech pit dogs. Would they.

Speaker 5 (48:59):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (48:59):
They weren't.

Speaker 16 (48:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah they were, and they do.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
And what do you do when a cod but yeah,
I mean if a cody comes at your dog, what
do you do?

Speaker 16 (49:12):
Thankfully I haven't had that. I've had a raccoon come
up with my dog in the backyard, and I've had
a rattlesnake and on the trails around here, so there's
plenty of plenty of fauna.

Speaker 15 (49:23):
You know.

Speaker 16 (49:23):
It makes me miss New Zealand actually, because we have
very few things that they can kill you that match.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Not for long, when until I get the moa and
then it'll be killing you in your backyard.

Speaker 16 (49:33):
Do you think the more would be vicious though?

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 8 (49:37):
Well.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Someone said about the Kesseri and they are related, and
that does look like it's Yeah, I don't know, I
kind of yeah, I've got no idea. Actually no, because
I mean they've got hunters.

Speaker 8 (49:51):
Can be vicious.

Speaker 16 (49:52):
Yeah, I'm sorry, we have a small delay on the lane.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
What were you to say?

Speaker 2 (49:58):
No, Well, I mean, yeah, I don't know about the
mora And the more I think about it, the more
I feel kind of unnoved about it. And I guess
that's just where they are and where the people are
hunting them or not. Huge clause, brilliant, nice to talk
than Thanks so much. Someone says, I think I'm a
week out with Easter. I think I am too. Actually,
I think there is five days this week. What do

(50:18):
I think was a short week? How are we people?
What's happening? In Listener and Hettel twelve, we are talking
about what animals we want? Why do you want to
bring back animal? That's a good point. Actually, why did
they bring them back? Because I think there are benefits
to the science. That's what they're saying like benefits for
people with fertility problems because they can develop artificial ovums

(50:41):
and stuff. So that's the way it's kind of marketed
to people. But it's done by private money. So I
guess people with private money can do what they want,
providing you have ethicists. Ethicists, I su guess that's important.
But what animals do you want to bring back? I
can't believe there's a twenty foot long sloth. I think

(51:05):
I'm too aware of the America and a megafauna. But yeah,
and if we bought them back, where would we put them?
Because you don't bring them back just to put them
in a zoo. That's Jurassic Park and that didn't go
so well. But then what would you do with them?
They'd be taking the sheep, I would imagine, or they

(51:25):
wouldn't ready because it'd be vegetarian, wouldn't they? Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. I think Nelson's trying to
do something with freedom campers defecating in bushes and public urination.
I hope to reduce under a proposed legius like freedom
camping ban for three Nelson sites make no difference, No

(51:45):
one enforces it. That's the problem. Impossible to enforce. No
wants the job of kind of policing freedom campers, that's
my take. Fortunately, there aren't as many as they once were.

(52:10):
I guess they're coming back soon, are they. I see
more of those juicy vans on the road. Fortunately COVID
got rid of most of those. But I see they're
sneaking back with their sneaky ways camping everywhere. Oh well,
I've tried to chill out about it a bit. More
freedom campers, but we don't see any of bluff these days.

(52:31):
They used to be there quite off up the top
of the hill.

Speaker 8 (52:38):
For a while.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
I found myself getting slightly wound up by them lighting
fires and camping and doing stuff. But you know, and
you go and kind of confront them. But what's the point.
I didn't really know what to say to them. I say,
you shouldn't be campaul, What's Why's it was? You didn't

(53:00):
know if they put on a different accent or you know,
any thought wall actually what am I doing? But anyway,
but certainly there was nowhere else, no one else would
come out to police them, and just piles of junk
left in the reserve. But it hasn't been as bad
for four or five years. It seems to no longer
be such a thing. But I think Nelson's got a

(53:21):
huge problem with it. Kind of give them an inch,
they'll take a mile. That's the trouble. What species would
you bring back if you could? It seems to be
the moe or the whoeah. A lot of people saying
that hairy mammoth. I don't really know too much about

(53:42):
the hairy mammoth. I presume it's like an elephant with
hair on goes in cold places too, so you'd put
that up the tundra? Am I right? What's happening people,
Marcus till twelve? If there is something different? I've given
you a back topic with the freedom campers, but I
don't know how well would go on that. I mean,

(54:02):
people like to set off steam, but apart from that,
I don't know where else that goes. With a bit
like in time we'll get better tourists that spend more
money and do better things. Yeah, let's hear from you

(54:25):
if you do want to talk. Marcus Till twelve, twenty
eight past nine eight eight, yep. Anything else you got
to go around with or we've got to talk about
let's hear from you no sport tonight to keep you
updated with I kind of wish they go throughout the week.
By the way, let's see what the foot See is doing.
I think was rebounding earlier. What do they call that

(54:48):
sort of bounce? False hope, it's up two percent today
the foot sea or eight one point eight. Well it
has been up as high as two percent. So there
we go, a donor. It's Marcus. Welcome Marcus.

Speaker 9 (55:08):
I used to have one of those dogs those Marimas have, Yeah, Marima, Marima. Yeah,
I think they'll tell you say it was quite a while.
He was gorgeous, but they don't like being leafed alone.
And yeah, I had to find a new home for

(55:29):
him because when I was working, he was backing all day.
But there was a lady where did your god, there
was a lady in Napier that was breeding them.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Well, it's amazing what variety of dogs there is. Every
year there seems to be a new dog that just
looks extreme. I mean, there's a beautiful looking dogs. They're
kind of white, aren't they, but but fox? Yeah, but
nice looking, look like I've got a very kind looking face.

Speaker 9 (55:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was going to say that
that they're really fluffy. Kids all liked them. But I
found them a good home, so that was okay.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
But but you weren't on a farm. They weren't working
with stock, were they? No?

Speaker 9 (56:14):
No, no, no. But the people I got them from
were they had a little bit of a farm, were
sort of in between the Hastings and napier mm.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
I think when you put them when you unlike a
hunterway dog, when you put them with stock, they'll just
live with the stock and wander and protect them from
other dogs or anything like that. They sort of become
part of the herd, it seems.

Speaker 14 (56:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (56:37):
Yeah, and they sort of bleaned in as well.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Are they?

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Are they a big dog on it?

Speaker 9 (56:44):
Oh yeah, a bit bigger than a labrador.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
I suppose, okay, but no good as a pet.

Speaker 9 (56:52):
No, well not unless there's someone home all the time,
which yeah, I found out there. And the other thing
is I wouldn't really bring back any animals because I
just don't think it's a good idea. Like I was thinking, no,
maybe they could bring something back that would get rid
of the wallabies, you know, but then it would be

(57:15):
like that, what's that nursery rhyme with a you know
the cat in the yep, you know, everything would sort
of kind of.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
It's like in Australiay, brought in the cane toads to
get rid of some I forget what they brought something
on the cane, but they've taken over and taken over
the whole of Australia. They kind of thrived.

Speaker 9 (57:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
So the law of untended consequences or something.

Speaker 9 (57:46):
It's the one that's one.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Okay, thank you. Well, the cane toads born and I
can control the cane beetle terrifying looking things, giant or horrible.
I've never seen one in the wild, but the eyes
is there was a good docor on the Grigot's Marcus,
welcome what you got You've got years on there? Greg?

(58:12):
How are you Marcas? I'm welcome.

Speaker 7 (58:14):
Off tuned my radio.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Are you on about dogs or extinction events or animals
coming back?

Speaker 13 (58:27):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Are you on about animals coming back? Greg?

Speaker 4 (58:31):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Yes, what would you bring back?

Speaker 7 (58:35):
Are the moa?

Speaker 2 (58:38):
And where would you put it?

Speaker 20 (58:42):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (58:42):
Fim it. They farm chickens, they farm ostages, farmers loa.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
But there I think they're in the bush rather than
the paddock. What I think they live in the bush
rather than the paddock. Would you have them in a
bush block?

Speaker 7 (59:03):
Oh, you can build a case, you can build something
to house it. I mean, you're just got to keep
it somewhat warm. And even then they've got to feed
this man. That's fine. They can live wherever they want.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
But I don't think you'd bring back one and then
cage it, would you. That seems kind of pointless. If
you want to bring it back, you want them breeding
and taking over and sort of running in the wild,
would you not?

Speaker 7 (59:31):
No, if you're going to bring it back for here
for humans eating, yes, which yeah, but you know affect.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
You're not going to factory farm moa?

Speaker 13 (59:45):
Are you?

Speaker 5 (59:47):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (59:48):
You're not going to have factory farms like little chickens?

Speaker 10 (59:50):
Are you.

Speaker 7 (59:52):
Just imagine having a farm of moa? I magine having
a city KFC having a moa leg? Holy crap. Never
feed the whole family.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
You need a bit well, you need a big oven. Greg,
Thank you brilliant. That's Greg. How are you going? People want?
Sent me out there and listen to land. My name
is Marcus. Welcome, oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
bringing back the mowers. So in the end they'll be
able to bring back anything where they could just get
some DNA from. But I think they reckon the stuff
with the dinosaurs. The DNA is compromised because of fungus

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it sees or fung guy it said in the article
that I was listening to. So you've got a bit
of a window. You can't bring everything back yet, but
the technology is moving remarkably quickly. I think birds would
be quite straightforward. I think bringing back the whoia and
the morale would be kind of really entry level stuff.

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Hockey Marcus, Welcome evening, yet loud and clear.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Gotcha, Oh goody.

Speaker 14 (01:00:53):
I was just bringing up about earlier on.

Speaker 21 (01:00:55):
I think you said that you can bring back the
poor couple, Yes, but the cool couples popl okay, And
I think the who you is one you might have
been talking about. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty
sure that who he is the with the red you know,
the pods on the side of his kicks, and the
cork cuckle and the cork cracker was purple, almost of

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the same by purple, and there was the sphinx for
its core sounded like.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Wow, I think there was a North there's a North
is in the South on one is in one. I
think one's still alive.

Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
Yes, the cork cuck yet and you get the one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
With the orange because I think that I think people
thought they'd seen that in the South Island, but I
don't know if that's it? Is it purple?

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
Yeah, the corkuck was almost like blue blue purple.

Speaker 14 (01:01:46):
And I'm up in the like in the North Island,
like in the Huraky golf on some of those islands.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Okay, you've seen one.

Speaker 14 (01:01:53):
Yep, no, no, but I've heard one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Do you know what they want? Do we know what
the who? Do you know anything about the who?

Speaker 9 (01:02:01):
He is?

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Cool?

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
No, I don't.

Speaker 14 (01:02:04):
But the cork crackle is one of the only that
cans call out different tunes in one blow, Like it
doesn't take it's like one all in one whistle can
change tone.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
What does that mean? It's got different mechanics.

Speaker 14 (01:02:22):
I'm not sure, but it was unique and it was
known for that, Like that's what I remember I.

Speaker 7 (01:02:26):
Was talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Yeah, okay, that's and.

Speaker 14 (01:02:29):
Also also how people think, you know, they'd like to
bring them all back and like farm it well, do
we farm.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Kia and kiwis exactly?

Speaker 14 (01:02:38):
Yeah, so I don't think that would be like I think,
just no go. And also, you know, the animals are
under time, and I've done their history and given us
stories to tell them.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
Why would we.

Speaker 14 (01:02:47):
Want to bring them vectis to damage them again and
cause other problems.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Out of guilt, I suppose, because particularly for the Huiah
without the order Buller and those people just hunted them.
And yeah, I mean I guess that's what it's about,
to redeem the past wrongs, I suppose, but true.

Speaker 14 (01:03:07):
And I think it'll be awesome to see the moa
and all those birds walking through the bush. And the
mower did walk hunched over because the first bone under
the skull was behind the skull, not under the skull.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Like I'm INU.

Speaker 14 (01:03:19):
So the nu stands up tall because of sort of
a backbone under the skull, but the more walk off
the backbone behind the skull, so it was hunched over
like so I could walk through the bush.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
But actually, when you think of it, if they are
up to speed with bringing back animals, yes, it kind
of seems that it will be the perfect place to
do it because we've just got the birds and that
kind of it seems to be like who are you
could bring who are you back or any of those
birds and they would you know, apart from the fact
that that we've already got rid of.

Speaker 14 (01:03:50):
Them, Yes, I think they'll do well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
They would do well. And people aren't going to hunt,
you know, you know, they're not going to threat they're not.
No one's going to be opposed to bringing back to
who we are? Are they?

Speaker 8 (01:04:01):
No?

Speaker 14 (01:04:01):
And if we did bring these birds back, we haven't
protected otherwise people are just going to take them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Here and sell them again.

Speaker 14 (01:04:08):
Yeah. And one more thing, and if you know, if
you want to ask, the best person there'll be David Edinburgh.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Yeah, agreed. Nice to hear from Helky, appreciate that. Thank you.
Fifteen to ten Drex Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 15 (01:04:26):
This is direct your lover. Just awoken from my sleep
five hundred years. I don't think I think I had
been asleep Dregs.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
I think that was that was rip fin Winkle.

Speaker 15 (01:04:42):
Was it was then with them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
All up, rip friend Winkle sleep for one hundred years.
Drecular wouldn't sleep. He was the undead, wasn't he.

Speaker 15 (01:04:52):
Well you telling the story then, well, you know you're.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Telling this, do you see your drec your huh? I
don't think regular sleep.

Speaker 15 (01:04:59):
I been asleep before the year and the White Wolf
woken me up to my my books?

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Did hang on? Were there were there white wolves and
drag Killer?

Speaker 14 (01:05:14):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (01:05:15):
White wolves and white painting?

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Okay, you're an interesting kind of a unit.

Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
Dres Well.

Speaker 15 (01:05:21):
Firstly, I've been a sleep for five hundred years. I
feel like some word Claret and the beautiful lumptious women.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
How do you think this calls going for your dregs?

Speaker 5 (01:05:34):
I like this camp.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
It's going well, you take care of dregs. Nice to
hear it first, but that's the first for me. But
did directly have wolves? I think that there was something
there with record? Was there wolves? Did you have white wolves?
I don't know too much about the White Wolf and
fandom and all that Game of Throne stuff. That's not

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my cannon. In fact, before I've never heard of the
dire Wolf. I don't know why it's called the die.
Why is it called the dire Wolf? Seems like a
funny name, Drex. I thought it was going to be
a musician like the Drex Project. Oh, by the way,

(01:06:18):
I've seen an article about this the people Colossal other people. Oh,
by the way, Peter Jackson's involved with this company, Colossal
and Paris Hilton. Funnily enough, Yeah, so they've got some
And who's that American football player Tom I can't remember.
It's her name, Brady. He's involved as well. But they

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want to bring back the Dodo, the Tasmanian Tiger or
the Thia scene and the Memmoth. I don't know what
you do with the memmoth, but I think they think
that might be useful in why is it called the
Dire Wolf?

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
Dan?

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Can you work it out? The mammoth? I mean, I
think the mammoth really are just thinking of flint'st at
the Flintstones at the Big Horn. I mean, and I
think in those stupid movies, I send to spend a
whole four years of my life watching what were they called?
With that little ferret and the Acorn? I say to you,

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remember all of those Gee, they went on good fun
for a while, but they go went back to the
well once too often. It feels like years ago. We
spent our whole life watching the Ice Age movies Dinner
and a Show. They're quite good. There's some good lines
in the Originals Text of the Night. Someone says, get

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drecs back on. Yeah, I reckon. Well, you're lively one
if he's got a fantasia, Marcus, I think they should
be worrying about the animals already on this earth. Now,
history is history, tarn Yeah, I can see that again.
I mean, I'm just as fascinated by the what you
could do. I've never thought about the reasons for doing

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it or not. This guy has spent hundreds of millions
of dollars, and Peter Jackson's involved. Well, he would be,
wouldn't he because he's into don't know what he's into.
I guess thinking big or doing things that people don't
think you can do. Heah, there you go, Marcus. I

(01:08:27):
would like to bring back truck drivers, the ones that
could wave and like driving manual gearboxes. The lizards will
have the place to themselves in seventy years because the
planet will be too hot for everything else. Are you
aware of a heater that was recalled? I presume it
was a guest one I didn't lock. I'm on in
that market for recalled heaters. I'm a fire guy, Marcus

(01:08:52):
Bugger the birds bring back Billy Tea loll loll loll,
Michael the milkman, you know that you just go extract
DNA from humans. In the coming months, Auckland, because this
is a text. In the coming months Auckland Council will
eliminate rubbish bags across rural suburbs like the Rodney and
Franklin districts are placing them with one hundred and twenty

(01:09:13):
wheelie bins paid for from the rates. My question is this,
Can we now treat all wheelibins on the curb as
public bins? Therefore anyone could put rubbish in or top
up any bin without anyone protesting. Nice idea. I like it.
My only concern for that would be you open up
the bin and all the rubbish flies out. I put

(01:09:36):
my bin out tonight. When I put my bin out,
it's got straps to strap it down. Otherwise all the
rubbish ends up in Fovo straight. There's some days in
Bluff they shouldn't collect the weather. They collect the rubbish
because there's just bins all across the street. But they

(01:09:58):
are good, those rubber straps. I think they sell them
as I think you might even get them from the council. Actually, oh,
my nominated bird for de extinction. Prague would be the
laughing owl extinct in nineteen fourteen. A fierce nocturnal predator

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with a human like laughter would sort out the mice
in our beach forests. So what do you want brought
back Marcus text? If you want? The text I read
them was like, come, Marcus, could you please bring back
drex Heady deniedly Drax fact segment Marcus, bring back Kamala,
the elephant from Willington Zoos. She used to have a

(01:10:40):
double sided bench sheet strapped with back andok adult at
John of the rides around the zoo. We've moved beyond that.
I don't think we bring back animals the kids can
ride them. I hope cheapers funnily enough, I think actually,
it seems as though the Tasmanian tiger is raated to
a rat. It's like a rodent, like it's got a pouch. Yeah,

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it's the marsupial. Actually rats don't have pouch, but you
know what I'm saying, it looks like a little rat.
The things that's related to bring back the moer might
chase some of those dope gris out of the bush. Marilyn,
do people still grow dope in the bush, but they're
all doing it inside now in factories. I thought it

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all gone urbanized, hadn't it. I think the stuff on
the bush is too weak, isn't it? Marcus. I would
bring back several different dinosaurs, put them on an island
in terms of theme part what could go wrong? They
say that dinosaurs are out of the question because the
DNA is too compromised. It's too it's too old, it's

(01:11:48):
deteriorated too much, apparently. And someone also wants to bring
back the laughing owl. If you do know anything about
the Tasmanian tiger, that would be of interest to me,
as opposed to the Tasmanian devil. That's a different thing.

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But I think they're all in Australia. But then the
dingos attacked them, and the dingoes were never in Tasmania.
I never did you know that? And there was a
bounty on them. He's loved a bounty A was related

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to the Tasmanian devil. They split very amazing that we
didn't have mammals and New Zealands, isn't it. But that's
why we should bring back all our birds. I think
we could be ground why isn't lucky one about this.
We could be ground zero for bringing back species because tourism.

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By the way, we do get a lot of hardcore
birders down south. They'll be certainly they haven't got a
thought a thilas seen fetus at the Australian Museum got
the material to bring him back. Australia lost more than

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ninety per seven's a megafauna fifty thousand years ago, with
a notable exception of several kangaroos and wombat species emys cassies,
large go wannas in the thylacine. Yep, there go the goanna.

(01:13:38):
But they had one on the zoo. They weren't that big.
They're slightly bigger than a dog. Oh I tell at
eight to eighty nine.

Speaker 8 (01:13:49):
Two.

Speaker 22 (01:13:49):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
The other thing too that I will mention. I was
also doing some reading about today and I thought this
was quite interesting and I'm just going to throw.

Speaker 18 (01:14:00):
It at you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
And it was a question that Google used with its
employer oyees right at job interviews to see if they
were suitable for the job. And don't google it up.
And I'm curious to know what you think if you
were shut if you were shrunken down to the size

(01:14:23):
of a nickel, which is about eight tenths of an inch.
If you're shrunken down to the side of a nickel
and placed in a blender and the blender is going
to be turned on in sixty seconds, how would you escape?

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You haven't got any thoughts on that. If you don't
want to talk about animals coming back from extinction. That's
a question for both right and left brained people. And
funny enough, there appears to be a solution to this problem.
I don't know if they knew the solution when they
asked the problem. Just have a bit of a quick
thing of that and give me some thoughts on that.
If you've got them. And in christ Church to get

(01:15:17):
an alcohol curfew, they want to nine pm the off
license or stop sitting, because I think it's probably a
good thing. Stop the preloading and the sideloading in the
moment they can go to eleven pm. Good evening, Tony,
this is Marcus. Welcome and good evening. Here you go,
good Tony. What would you bring back?

Speaker 8 (01:15:39):
Do you know what?

Speaker 20 (01:15:40):
I was just listening to your show and like you're
talking about bringing his animals back, and they.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
Did.

Speaker 20 (01:15:49):
They bring back humans.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Good point, like like particular humans you.

Speaker 20 (01:15:57):
See, and they took my DNA and I died and
then they brought me back.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
It's a really good point.

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
Would that work? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
I from my understanding, they couldn't bring you back exactly.
They could bring back someone that had your characteristics, but
your physical characteristics they could find because the DNA is
real long and complicated, but they could find the bits
that that that dictate eye color and hair color and

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stuff like that. They could actually find the DNA of
a relative that's alive and change.

Speaker 9 (01:16:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Look, I don't know the answer, but why would you
want to come back? Because you wouldn't you wouldn't have
the memories and you wouldn't know.

Speaker 8 (01:16:52):
It was you though.

Speaker 20 (01:16:55):
Yeah, yeah, no Worth, Yeah, that's unreal.

Speaker 10 (01:16:58):
Way.

Speaker 20 (01:16:58):
How they can bring animals, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
They might want to bring back people's and I thought
you're going to say bring back Hitler or someone and
sort of under but yeah, but you know, because people
could do that if they you could bring back individuals.
I never thought of that. Okay, Okay, food for thought, Tony,
Thank you. You haven't got any thoughts about that bringing
back certain people so much to bring back Robert Muldoon

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Rob's mob. How old was he when he died? Was
he young or old? It must have been in his seventies,
what late seventies. I'm trying to think about that, Paul.
It's Marcus. Good evening and welcome. Hi, Paul.

Speaker 11 (01:17:37):
Yeah, thank you for taking my call, my pleasure. If
there was somebody that i'd bring back, it'll be Albert Einstein.
I think it had a very interesting take on what's
going on at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
But he would be a baby, was he? Well, I
don't know how it works.

Speaker 13 (01:18:12):
I've got you there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
I don't know how it works, but I presume if
you're bringing back someone, right, you're bringing them back, You're
you're The way they've done all these brought back all
these extinct animals is they've they've just stated them and
they've just been born.

Speaker 11 (01:18:29):
Okay, Well, well I'm sorry, no.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
No, no, no, I'm just trying to work this out myself,
because because I think if you are bringing back unless
you've got their body and you can cry on at least,
but no one knows how to do that yet. But
otherwise you're bringing them back as babies, and then you've
got to educate them. The same way for them to
become the same same kind of genius.

Speaker 11 (01:18:52):
No, no, you're one hundred right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Well, it wouldn't be a bad thing. But but but
we wouldn't know if it worked out for fifty years.

Speaker 11 (01:19:01):
It would be bloody interesting to get his views on
things at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
Yeah, well maybe they could. Maybe you could get like
check GPT, put all Einstein's writings and thoughts into a computer,
and that could tell you what he would think about
certain things that might work. Of course, reading Robert will
do was only seventy when he died. Wow, surprised to

(01:19:27):
read that. Hello, Dave Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 10 (01:19:32):
Yeah, it's a mobile nickel here, and I'm stuck in
a blender and it's about to come on on sixty seconds.
So I'm going to wedge myself between the blade and
the bottom of the blender. So when it goes on,
it's going to either spit me out the bottom of
the blender, it's going to flip me up out of
the top of it. That's the way I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
You can't think of anything else, can you?

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
Well?

Speaker 8 (01:19:55):
Do I need to?

Speaker 10 (01:19:56):
Is that not sufficient? Does it not suffice?

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
I don't think you'll fly upwards and it spins, will
you'll just hit the side.

Speaker 10 (01:20:04):
My initial thinking was, yes, I'm going to hit the side,
but imbrace against the blade so that when it spins,
it's going to either not chop me up or it
caused me in damage, but it might just spit me
out the side of the blender, because I assume every
blender I've known has made a plastic and I'm a nickel.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Oh no, I see, David. Yeah, that's probably my bad explanation.
You're not a nickel either size of an ei, the size.

Speaker 10 (01:20:32):
Of the bol eye myself and the size of a nickel.
I've got the wrong end of the stick.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
Well, you're pretty well got. It was probably my poor explanation.
So you've been you've been shrunk from your size to
the height of a nickel, which is about an which
is about eight tenths of an inch.

Speaker 10 (01:20:50):
I'm more like Adam. And now that I've get my
way of thinking, well, can I not get on get
on top of the blade and sort of click myself
up or can I not climb.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
I don't know, you can't climb the glass.

Speaker 10 (01:21:06):
Can I get on top of the blade and maybe
when the blade spins or on top of them and
catapult myself in some way.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
How would you catapult yourself?

Speaker 15 (01:21:14):
Though?

Speaker 10 (01:21:14):
Well, I get on the blade, so with the spins
in sixty seconds, I can be propelled.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
But you would be thrown to the side of it,
wouldn't you.

Speaker 10 (01:21:25):
Well, perhaps, perhaps what's the answer, Marcus, go and give
us the answer.

Speaker 8 (01:21:29):
What's what have you got there?

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
I shall. I'll just see if anyone else can give
me some attempts, Dave, So see how I get it
might be slightly to thought it, or see where I
see where I go with a day. But thank you?
Anything else all good? You cope with daylight saving. I
hate the change you just like the year.

Speaker 10 (01:21:47):
Well, I can understand your way of thinking, because the
only thing, the only positive that I can come up with,
is that summertimes are coming. So we put spring forward,
you know, So when we put the clocks forward for spring,
goody goody, Summer's on its way. That's my only positive
I can come up with.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Marcus, you always think it's the beginning of winter. I
go into a downward spiral six months of that darkness.

Speaker 10 (01:22:14):
Mate, He is fictuy. The day we've had here in Chrosty.
It's goodness me, no good No, the stormy, stormy, heavy
winds and rain and a bit of snow, I believe
down south Twisal area and the Crown Range. But I
could see it coming over the Port Hills about ten o'clock.

(01:22:35):
She was dark hairs and hit us about half ten.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
M Okay, no, it's pretty good down south. Surprisingly, we're
not saying surprisingly, but but there hasn't been cold at all,
t shirt weather for me down south. Although there was
I had to yeah, there was, it was. There was

(01:23:00):
a bit of range shower came through. Although it has
got wed enough. I can't drive to the top of
the when I can, but the foil drive and the
mud tires are slightly Yeah, I don't real I don't
reckon I'll be able to get the top for much longer,
which is a shame because if Bataol's up there anyway,
Enough about that, wait for country calendar tell that story.

(01:23:21):
Richard Marcus, welcome, good.

Speaker 8 (01:23:22):
Evening, Good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 22 (01:23:25):
So, first of all, a long shot about how to
get out of a blender. If it's going to be
turned on somebody trying to put something into it, you
don't turn on. I need to blender.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
And you'd swim and you'd float.

Speaker 22 (01:23:40):
Ah, yeah, you just get it swimming as they call
the stuff, and then clamber over the room or they
might take.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Because what would they be putting in a blender on
milk or something, you know, bananas or a like ani.
Yeah it's a good I like you thinking there, because yeah,
if you're thinking if they're gonna if they're gonna turn
the blender on, they're not gonna turn on there something's
in it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:24:05):
So so the other thing is bringing back something half seagull?

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Yeah how big was it?

Speaker 22 (01:24:13):
Fifteen kilograms three meters wingspan? But it could eat it
could eat people. And I think I used to when
I was a young kid, I used to have this
neighbor next to me was an old logan. I used
to say, he's only to be a far bitter place.
If they had lions and tigers, people would be more
sort of you know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Such a classic, such a classic old person thing to say,
isn't it.

Speaker 22 (01:24:38):
Imagine you know all these young people that walk around
looking at their phones. When I'm biking around the number
of times I have to swear to avoid someone who
just walks out on the road because they don't hear me,
they rely on their ears, and you know that'd be
plucked out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
Of the sky and no, so tell a bit like
we're flying monkeys and the Wizard of Ours. They'll always
be over up above, vigilant.

Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
What did they eat children?

Speaker 22 (01:25:06):
They used to eat Mara's mainly, but evenly. Like they
died out and became extinct in the fourteen hundreds. So
I don't know how past managed to get the named
after him, because he never saw one that sort of
colonial nation that I could call something after me. But yeah,
they haven't. Were you know, pretty lethal?

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Did they eight children? There were reports of it, were there?

Speaker 22 (01:25:36):
Yes, the everly you know legends. I suppose they have
to because long.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Just trying to think if they did any Yeah, I
reckon they be terrifying to come back.

Speaker 22 (01:25:58):
Well, yeah it would be. But you know, like people
live where his lions and tigers.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
I guess the problem is you. I mean, if you
bring back the mah, you have to bring back something
to control them all? Would you that they keep each
other in check, wouldn't they?

Speaker 22 (01:26:16):
I guess, So you've.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Probably got to bring back both.

Speaker 22 (01:26:20):
Yes, So when Mari arrived, didn't you they started eating
the mark. That's what killed off why the eagle became extinct,
because they ran out of food.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Run food. It's gonna be great fun if you're doing
the old Milford track or the Heafy track and you
see sort of a group of hearst eagles to take
a group of moers. I mean, that's going to be
quite the tourism spectacle, isn't it? Coming in chiefers.

Speaker 22 (01:26:47):
Yeah. They just swoop in and whack them.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
I saw they they go for the brain.

Speaker 22 (01:26:54):
I think they go to the back of the back
of the head or something.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
Well, because like a vulture, isn't it mm hmmm.

Speaker 4 (01:27:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:27:03):
They don't wrestle them down and they just whack them
and then come back and you know, burst them off.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Oh that'd be something to see, wouldn't it. Okay? What
was the wing span?

Speaker 22 (01:27:14):
Three meters? They said it was a small wingspan for
bird that big, but they had it smaller so they
could fly through fast.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Oh okay, so it's a super MANEUVERA yeah, yeah, no,
thanks to me. Yeah, okay, I'm not a fan of that,
but thank you, Richard. I'm terrified of that. They've still
got wing and leg remains.

Speaker 8 (01:27:40):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
I think the Philippines has an eagle. That's right, because
in the art gallery the other day and there was
a guy came and he said, I'm a burder. And
the woman they said, you've seen the Philippine eagle. She
was for the Philippines. Though, well it's a good but
of small talking said yes I have, so of course
you have your burder. He'd be down here for the Pelagics.
They go off on a boat and see all the seabirds.
I think they see albatross and stuff like that. Hit'll twelve.

(01:28:05):
How are you? What's happening? Cloud settings the next topic,
but we'll stick with what we've got seven pasts Leaven Halgar,
it's Marcus, welcome, good evening.

Speaker 17 (01:28:14):
How are you tonight?

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Good Helga, thank you.

Speaker 17 (01:28:18):
Well, I've just coming from the city Queen Street about
I'm forty minutes ago and it's squeezing and I read
online that Tongarero National Park possibly we'll have snow down
to about seventeen hundred meters okay, yeah, And I said,
I'm all going tomorrow night tonight. It's going to be

(01:28:40):
fourteen tomorrow night eleven. But I live in Avondale and
the window is so cold in town?

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
What's happening in town? Helga?

Speaker 17 (01:28:52):
I went to dinner at the Old Pony's Restaurant and
Willesley Speed. It's still open. That's sixty years anniversary.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
Wow, it's not about to close anytime soon, is it?

Speaker 7 (01:29:03):
No?

Speaker 17 (01:29:04):
No, it's I'm a mental young maiden who was on
the counter sits in and since her mother worked here
for years and since was tired, and now the daughter's
written there beautiful. Now I had push chowder, sleep and
apple pie for pudding.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Would that be the country's longest running restaurant?

Speaker 17 (01:29:23):
I don't know, maybe Aucuns sixty years ago. I was seven,
so I read there when I was about twenty three,
so that my son was known. But now he's fifty four.
So that's the last time I went.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
He was just trying to think because there was two
of Tony's Steakhouse was one on Lawn Street and one
on but the Wellesley Street one has been there forever.

Speaker 17 (01:29:48):
Yeah, still still going strong. And I heat pump on.
It was twenty degrees from there, and then I mean
I looked either and it's impossible snow down and on
top I think I read seventeen hundred and outside it's
cold and Evan Darlett's cold.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
Did seem busy? Tony's a yeah, very busy. That was
capping today and the studio, Oh yeah, a lot of
those families coming that think, oh well we'll go to
the same place where dinner when I graduated that my
dad's call, wouldn't it nostalgia?

Speaker 17 (01:30:19):
Yeah, Asian students tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
Yeah, that could be the ones that's also gradual air.

Speaker 17 (01:30:25):
It could be the key Chinese.

Speaker 9 (01:30:31):
There.

Speaker 12 (01:30:31):
Mar.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
It's all been fine, no dramas at all.

Speaker 10 (01:30:34):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
I certainly haven't had. I mean it's just been. It's
just been. I mean the first bit of rain we
had was yesterday, but there was a lot to it.
I know that's got a lot of grass seed plant
and I wanted that to sort of you know, I
needed some grass and some trees. But I look forward
to it. But it has been incredibly dry.

Speaker 17 (01:30:55):
Oh it's poor. This morning absolutely poored here and I
rung my our daughter in law down on my uku
and I poured there first before us.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
You got me craving a steak. Now, actually after that,
did you have a steak?

Speaker 16 (01:31:14):
No?

Speaker 17 (01:31:14):
I had showerd suits on a little bit sport till
pay days.

Speaker 15 (01:31:18):
Oh okay, apple pie as well.

Speaker 17 (01:31:21):
Delicious, absolutely delicious, and it was hot you some places.
The suit's not that hot.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
No, you want your soup hot now. I'd be curious, though,
what should be the oldest wish that you're hellga, Marcus.
Don't they understand that those who get up and go
to work with the sunrise and go to beard with
a sunset or a relic of the past. Was most
annoyed when coming home after my usual night of the town,
nightclub and casino, et cetera, to come home at four
am and get less than two hours of darkness sleep
but off, you would agree the clock must be two

(01:31:49):
hours for permanent all year round.

Speaker 21 (01:31:54):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Tony's caper steak. Good to know it's still there, caper steak.
That must be not a type of thirteen past eleven
and the come on full BALLI be light me up.
Give me what you got people, and the situation with
the blender because you like the answer and I give

(01:32:15):
it to You're not going to here yet, You're going
to work for a bit more people. David A's Marcus,
good evening and welcome.

Speaker 12 (01:32:23):
Yeah, good evening. I guess I give you a call.
Sometimes when I'm passing through the square at Palmerston door.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
You seem to spend a little You come from Hawks
Bay and spend time in the square, don't you now.

Speaker 12 (01:32:35):
I'm up in Taranga, but I come down really frequently.
I got family connections and Fami's hometown. But I just
I just pulled in and I got across surprise. I
just say to give you a rin because you're down
in the snow and ice country. But someone's used a
bit of initiative here in Pami and with the month
through in the March through the end of April and
or the School of Days in Easter, they've they've erected

(01:32:58):
a very large marquee in the middle of the square
by the clocks there and they've turned into an ice rink.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
What a good idea.

Speaker 4 (01:33:07):
And it's a fantastic looking thing. It's a very big.

Speaker 12 (01:33:11):
White sort of marquee, big rectangular thing with a gabled roof,
quite long obviously, with a rink inside. And it's got
clear panel plastic windows down the side, so you can
obviously see it when it's lit up and things. But
I just had a look on Facebook, so if you
want to see it, it's on Facebook and ice rink
the square in I found.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
It and are people skating there tonight?

Speaker 12 (01:33:37):
Well, I closed it at ten pm just before I arrived,
so it's obviously tailored with ours so that in the
evenings people can come down families and bring their kids.
And it's going through to the end of April for school,
all of dose and things and Easter, and I just
got a surprise. I was surprised they managed to fit
it in the square because it runs sort of north

(01:33:58):
south on the southern part of the square right through
the middle just to the just to the eastern side
of the clock tower. If you know the square and
part yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
I didn't know the square and if it last time
we're in Palmisan North. Earlier this year, I thought the
square was looking a bit better. They sort of had
the bus stop there on our bus trip and it
seemed like it was quite it was functioning quite well.

Speaker 12 (01:34:22):
Yes, they've taken out a lot of vegetation and trees
and put in some neon lights which do look the
hell of the best. They're sort of fluorescent tube lights,
but they're quite a hard, sort of cold white light
through the square, but they did it for safety so
that they ever can wander around and you go for
walking things and they're not going to get jumped on
by vagrants. But the think with the yeah, if you

(01:34:44):
have a look on Facebook, if you want to see
that it's ice rink the square PN, then you'll find it.
But I just thought it was great initiative. I think
they had it last year from what I read, but
I hadn't seen it before myself. And as I said,
I just I just picked up a late night snaggers
arrived into town and I was packed up, and I
turned the corner and I saw this big Marquis and

(01:35:06):
I thought, I wonder what that is, and then on
the end of it, it's got ice prink.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Oh go look, David. I appreciate your calling. Thank you,
Save travels.

Speaker 8 (01:35:14):
Greg.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
It's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 8 (01:35:19):
Hi Greg, Oh Hi Hi Marcus.

Speaker 4 (01:35:22):
Look.

Speaker 13 (01:35:23):
I don't want to take out much of it a time,
but just a footnote to last night's conversation about the
people that can visualize or not visualized. Yes, right, I
was wondering. You say you're you don't you can't visualize?
So well, right, you're in a little group. Can you
do you ever remember your dreams? Yes, okay, so that's

(01:35:46):
the same as visualizing it's a metal No, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
Quite it's quite different.

Speaker 4 (01:35:50):
Greg.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
One is if you close your eyes when you're awake, right,
and you think of something and you can see that image,
whereas dreaming is something that happens when you're asleep.

Speaker 13 (01:36:04):
Oh I know that, of course, but but it's the
same kind of visual it's a it's still a visual
image in your mind when you're not awake and conscious
walking around, you know, But whether you've got your eyes
closed or not, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
Okay, yeah, okay. But certainly there's no collection between not
being able to visualize things where you consciously think about
them and dreaming. Does everyone does? I presume everyone dreams,
do they? Greg?

Speaker 13 (01:36:35):
Well, some people more than others, I guess, but I probably.
But some people came not to ever remember any dream
you know, others can remember vivid circumstances and dreams. And
I wonder if it was the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
As I get older, I dream a lot more, right, yep, yep,
which is weird, but look, I yeah, I every all
the reading I've done about a fantasia says that it's
not connected to dreaming at all.

Speaker 13 (01:37:07):
Okay, yes, hm, anyway, are you are you?

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
You're you can see stuff, can you?

Speaker 13 (01:37:16):
Yeah? Well, I think so. I have to visualize something
in color and brief. It's a very quick mutle flesh.
I think, very split second.

Speaker 4 (01:37:27):
But you get the most people in great detail.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
Most people have it, permit. You might be A three,
a two or something.

Speaker 10 (01:37:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
Okay, So if I close your eyes now and think
of an apple, you'd see an apple or just you
get a glimpse of an apple.

Speaker 13 (01:37:43):
Also, yeah, I don't have to close my eyes, but.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
No, for this, for this, you've got to close.

Speaker 13 (01:37:53):
I guess it's probably better if you do close your eyes,
but I can still.

Speaker 4 (01:37:57):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
I think for the purpose of this, imagine it. Yeah, okay,
I think for the purpose that you have to close
your eyes, Greg, otherwise something.

Speaker 13 (01:38:06):
Anyway, Yeah, anyway, thank you Marcus. It's just something that's
coming and popped into my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
And good to hear from you. Greeg, thank you, Marcus.
Sociopaths don't dream really. Oh I turned eighty ten eighty,
Greg Gray, Marcus, welcome, I Gray, Hey, how.

Speaker 8 (01:38:24):
Are you Marcus. I'm from up in the Bay of
islands and well, you know, you know, things that are happening.
I've got a couple of lambs that were born this week, Marcus. Wow,
is that normal? But for this time of the year
I would have imagined. So I've never had them born
in April. I've had some born in in May, but

(01:38:46):
not in April and in and up north here. It's
been a great summer, of course, but we're getting a
bit of a rain on and off now, so that's
a big help. But I was interested because it seems
pretty early, and you know, it's just I've only got
a small flock of about fifteen or twenty. But they're

(01:39:08):
two black lambs mainly.

Speaker 15 (01:39:10):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:39:12):
Have you know of anyone else in the country they've
got lambs that are born?

Speaker 2 (01:39:17):
No, but I don't know. I mean that that's not
to do with that. Is that to do with when
they're when they're impregnated.

Speaker 8 (01:39:25):
I think it is here because it's quite natural with
cheap they when they they call it tupping, and it's
all done when, you know, like in the in season.
I think as far as I know, certain you know conditions,
but maybe someone or you might know more, you know

(01:39:45):
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
I mean I know it's normally July that they start appearing,
and I think that is early. But yeah, I've never
heard that's March to day for isn't it?

Speaker 16 (01:39:55):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
What're about? Are you in the north Gray? Out of interest?

Speaker 8 (01:39:58):
I'm up at Oakpour just oh yeah, north or west
of cowor cub nearby here a small block. It's yeah,
it's a good spot. And the other thing that I've
did I notice, which seems to be an important issue,
is that all the tourist ships that come into the violence.

(01:40:22):
You know, they said that a lot of them were
not coming to New Zealand, but we've had over one
hundred or there's over one hundred that are expected to
come to part here. Wow. Is that happening in other
parts from New Zealand as well?

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
I heard they'd all gone and gone elsewhere that they
had that they weren't come. It was p and O
weren't coming down here. I forget the reasons, and I
think so, yeah, I did read that, But what do
they what do they all do in Northold? Where do
they where are the well?

Speaker 8 (01:40:49):
Where do they all go? You know, I'm sure if
the people, like the tourist people at the government, the
politicians if they sort of came and looked and thought
to see the potential of all these visitors that come
off the ships. I mean some days there's people that
go that come off the ship, including some of the crew.

(01:41:11):
And there's some big ships that come in here.

Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
Where do they send them or grig do they see
them up to? They go up to the ninety mile
beach to the light is it when they go or
they go through the hole in the rock or what
do they do?

Speaker 8 (01:41:22):
Now? Yeah, I think some do go to the hole
in the rock, which is a very popular spot. But
there's only the glow Worm Caves, which are a little
bit south of Cowcow, which is you know, a small
version of the White Tomo Cave. But it's very interesting place.
So they get you know, fifteen or sixteen bus loads

(01:41:42):
at a time. But you know, I think if the
tourist industry, you know, could do something like set up
in a Kwey house because I used to do taxing
and take tourists around for many years when I was
a bit younger, and they're all saying, you know, where
can we see a Kiwi today? And I said, oh,
there's a Quey house in fuangarray I said, it's about eighty,

(01:42:07):
but it's a bit too far. And I was always
wanting to try and promote you know, kiwi habitat, like
a fence and something like that to keep the dogs
yet because right at the moment there's kwi's all over
the place because of the rain that's come, you see,
and they can eat the worms and that the grounds
a lot softer, so, you know, And the tourists used

(01:42:31):
to ask me, where can we see these birds?

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
And I was reading this week, sorry to interrupt you,
about just about kills you know on pon you know
Ponui Island at all.

Speaker 8 (01:42:45):
Yeah, that's an hiroki golf Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
Just at the end of on the end of Wahiki.
It privately owned, I think, but they released fifteen kiwi
there in nineteen sixty four. Yeah, and now there are
two thousand.

Speaker 8 (01:43:02):
Oh fantastic, it isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
An extraordinary Yeah, it's a private answer. You can't see.
It's amazing thing that I would have two six percent
of all the kiwis of the country are on that island.

Speaker 18 (01:43:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
Well, yeah, i'd been there to see the donkeys. Didn't
even realize the kiwis were that prolifically.

Speaker 8 (01:43:24):
The Chamberlain's done if that family still live.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
In the article it is still mentioning the Chamberlain's.

Speaker 8 (01:43:31):
Yeah, because they've read those donkeys, the English donkeys, and
I bought one. I bought one off the that actually yeah,
I called it Jake, and I used to take them
out to fears in Auckland and I had mister Muldoon
at the time hop on one. So I've never forgotten
that way back in those in my early life.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
You know, you got a photo of you got a
photo of Mauldoon on a donkey.

Speaker 8 (01:43:54):
I think there was one in the Herald, but I
did have it. But you know, I've lost things, but
I guess there is you know, I guess there is
somewhere around it because I know I saw it in
the paper once, I'm sure, So you know that was
probably in there.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
Because eighties they are New Zealand only naturally evolved donkeys
and they feed on seaweed.

Speaker 8 (01:44:17):
Ah that's right. Well, what I liked about them because
I used to have about eight a nine and used
to go go around the circuit around Auckland and do
birthday parties in the day because I did, we did
run place call Fire Mountain Farm, which was at the
back of Swanson in those days, and so we had
a lot of animals, and that's why I've still got

(01:44:39):
a lot of animals. I love them. I was brought
up with them and you know, so that's why I've
got a bit of a menagerie. But I'd like to
get them back to Kiwi's. I'd like to set up
a development so we can so we can breed them,
because you know that, you know, they're are icon I think,
and the tourists would love to be able to come

(01:44:59):
and visit like they had down it there down in Roua,
but they've closed that down now and I'm not sure
the breeding programs still still down there, but you know,
it would be good to be up in up in
northern in the Bow of Islands, because I don't know,
if you remember Kulli Tulton, he actually had a kind

(01:45:21):
of ship parked up here. Have you seen that parked?

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
I know about the old two of the old sugar barge.

Speaker 8 (01:45:28):
Yeah, sure, well that's still there and nothing much is happening.
But you know, we needed someone that's an entrepreneur, that
that's got ideas that we could that we could do
things up in the Bay of Isolence because he was
going to set up the fish museum here, but the
council at the time wouldn't give him approval as far

(01:45:49):
as I concerned. But that was before my time, when
when I wasn't up here, and that would have been,
you know, the biggest, one of the biggest attractions for
the Bay of Islands and piet here because you know,
we used to be leveled with Queenstown, but now we've
slipped back that we have.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
It's really slip pick, hasn't it, Because I mean that's
like pie. He seemed to be quite a sort after
place to go.

Speaker 8 (01:46:11):
To, absolutely, and it was in the day. But you know,
we need people that have got some vision and ideas
because of all these people that are coming here, they
tell me that they spend over three hundred dollars a
day each person. The potential, so you imagine that how
it could help us to get tourism back on our feet.

(01:46:33):
So if there's someone interest that they could get hold
of me and we could do something, or you might
be able.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
To you know what I mean, Marcus, do you still
have your donkey?

Speaker 8 (01:46:42):
I've already got one one I call Pedro.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
Is that from pon or that's because they live a
long time, don't they.

Speaker 8 (01:46:50):
Oh yeah, you've heard the story about donkeys living being
at the poor people have been to the place for
donkeys years. It's a saying.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
It's a good point and forty I think I had.

Speaker 8 (01:47:01):
One, because I say I had eight or mine. I've
always had a few over the years. But you know,
as you as you as you, you've got to look
after them and triven their feet. And it's quite a job.
And if you if you've got to employ someone, it's
quite expensive, you know, to keep them in good health
in order. So that's why I've only got my my

(01:47:23):
my petlan Pedro is about he's about seven years old.
But he's got I like like what I like about him.
He's got the cross, but he has got some black
spots on his on his on his on his rump,
you know, which has matched him quite unusual. But you know,
there's animals are such such beautiful things and they're so intelligent,

(01:47:49):
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
I mean I love donkeys.

Speaker 8 (01:47:53):
Ah they are well, they're part of you know, being
part of my life. And as I say, I used
to have a trailer with with them on and I
drive down the road. And I can remember once I
had my trailer bro down. This was down in the
Northern Motorway and I only had three wheels on it.
I took the wheel off. I didn't have a spear,

(01:48:14):
but it ran on three wheels, you know. I thought
that'll get me home. And there was It just happened
that there was a lot of traffic police around. I
think the police weren't you know, there were traffic cops.

Speaker 13 (01:48:26):
In those days.

Speaker 8 (01:48:27):
And I thought, oh gee, but I'll get to take it.
But they all looked at the donkeys. I was watching them,
and they didn't look at the trailer with only one
wheel off. One time.

Speaker 15 (01:48:37):
Funny.

Speaker 8 (01:48:38):
I'll never forget that, you know what I mean. Yeah,
but that's all part of life, isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:48:43):
It Really nice to talk Ray? Thank you so much
for that. Twenty four away from twelve. There have a
few things to talk about there when the realm of
donkeys and tourism. Oh now, so okay, I'll tell you
this about the blender. I've forgotten about that too. I've
still got time the situation where the blender. Okay, I
asked you this is the quick ask for people going

(01:49:03):
for Google for a job. If you size of a nickel,
which is zero point eight of an inch high. If
you reduce the size of a nickel and you're putting
a blender, how would you get out if the blenders
being turned on in sixty seconds? Of cose almost forgot
to tell you this. The blender is going to be
turned on sixty seconds? How to get out of the blender?

(01:49:25):
And this is the question they ask people on their
interviews for Google. And I think actually the job interviewers
are just looking at how how well you can communicate
your ideas and your speed of thinking, and it's about
five different criteria. They're not looking for the actual answer.

(01:49:47):
It's just to say you're not disappointed. If you don't
get the right answer, you're not gonna get a job
at Google. Well, they probably wouldn't want to work at
Google anyway. However, the answer of how you get out
of the blender right is your jump And then they

(01:50:12):
go into the biometrics to explain it. And it's quite
complicated the explanation. But the smaller animal is the higher
it can jump. Like a horse and a dog and
a squirrel can all jump about the same height. So

(01:50:38):
when an animal is smaller. It's all about the cross
section area of the muscles. They can jump higher. So
the theory is if you were that size, you could
probably jump fifteen times your height and you could jump
out of the blender. And they've proven this, I think not.
They've maned to sneak it. It's strengthening under the size
of a nickel. But yes, that's what you do to

(01:50:59):
get out of the blender. You jump. There's some for
they interesting explanations that on the old Google funnily enough,
So there we go. You're disappointed by that, are excited,
But is it interesting that a dog and a horse
can jump the same height as a squirrel when there

(01:51:20):
sub animals can't jump like turtles and elephants. But yeah,
most animals when they become smaller, most yeah, you know
what I'm saying.

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