The Lamson Cash Rail System (21 May 2025)

Smith & Caughey's has confirmed it will close after 145 years of business. In a retail nostalgia hit, Marcus learns about the novel way money was delivered from customers to store accounts. Also, George Wendt, who portrayed Norm on Cheers has died.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
That'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
This is Wednesday, and welcome here till twelve. I hope
things are good, and if they're not good, I hope
they're better by the time midnight rolls around. I hope
we can do some good tonight. I don't know what
they're good is. Maybe who knows? Oh eight hundred and
eighty toighty is the number? Are nine to nine two text.
There's a couple of things probably we should talk about tonight.
Got three or four things, but this will change throughout

(00:35):
the course of the evening. There's other stuff that bounces up.
Will bring that to your attention to We might even
discuss it. We have quite a broad brief.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Do we.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yes, we'll talk about anything basically, So if you want
to be a part of it, get in touch. As
I say, oh, eight hundred eighty thirty and nine two
nine two to text. You'd have heard the news the
news during the news also that Psmith and Cohe has
Smith and Coey's has closed. Now for those that don't
know Smith and coy'serhaps it's a bit like Ballantine's or

(01:07):
a bit like Caircaldi's or a bit like I don't
know what that the need and equivalent would have been,
there would have been one, but you're or a bit
like an invert cargol. They had h and Jays and
that's God left a gaping hole. H and Jays also
to the whole blocks just did with nothing going on.
But anyway, so now it's turned for Smith and Curries
were already about a year ago talked about their demise

(01:29):
because it was going to go, but they decided to
have another go with it. What was interesting I was
an Auckland a bit over Christmas. Everyone was going to
Smith and Curry's. They are the people that people go
to for Father Christmas photos. Yes as kind of naph
as that sounds, it is the go to people book
ahead and it's like this right of passage for people

(01:50):
seems to be a rite of passage, mainly for people
that have moved to Auckland from elsewhere. I don't want
to sound jelish, but that seems to be what it is.
I'm not quite sure why that is. They think that's
something that you need to do in Auckland is but anyway,
and they booked out. You couldn't get in, was booked
out for weeks and weeks in advance. So I don't
quite know who now picks up that mental because who

(02:12):
else would do that. I can't imagine what the answer
that would be. And they be father Christmases that will
be out of work, I suppose to, but who knows anyway.
So if you want to talk quickly about Smith and Coey's,
I've been there recently, recently in December. I think I
had to buy something, and I had to buy a

(02:32):
shirt for a child whose birthday was on the nineteenth
of December. It was a sure he looked at for
five minutes and decided it wasn't for him, gave it
to his brother, who was quite happy with it. But yes,
it was in one of those desperate shopping things that
was the last place to go to, and even then
it seemed slightly well, it seems slightly abandoned. However, also

(03:00):
I took myself and sat myself in the cafe there
and that was quite pleasant for a length of times.
The people will miss that too, anyway, if you do
want to. It's been there forever, but obviously to retail
has gone. Department stores have gone. Queen Street's gone, and
people blame it on COVID and the renovations, but it

(03:21):
will be all manner of things and the fact they
didn't pivot to online retail quick enough, and also too
when it comes to big departments at stores. You might
like to say too, perhaps with some of them that
perhaps some of their brands, the choice of brands was
perhaps in some cases too luxury and in other cases
not luxury enough. So yeah, if you want to comment

(03:43):
on that quickly. The My name is Marcus Welcome, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. I don't know what will
happen with the building. It feels like it's about six stories.
It's quite a big building, takes up a whole block
of be a significant building. I can't imagine what would
go in there. I can't imagine who is the rising
stars of commercial real estate that they would put in there.

(04:04):
What's everyone clamoring to do? I know what it will be,
probably bubble Tea put in the world's biggest bubble tea
place that seems to not be falling out of favor
with anyone, does it?

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yes, so we had those yogurt places, you go those
ice cream places you do, all the different topics they
came and went. But bubble Tea, well it seems to
work better in smaller shops. Bubble Tea you would want
five floors a bit don't even know what the bubbles are.
We tried the family once in Dneed and it was
a disaster. The people we were with you, I've never

(04:36):
known anyone who has so much trouble struggle with But
I mean I loved it, but the kids were sort
of non play. There was a bit too sophisticated for
them out from Bluff and the big city of Dunedin
experimenting with the bubble Tea thing. Anyway, I think they
thought it was going to be more excited than next
you was, which is probably very much what I've always
thought about bubble Tea. Anyway, who although I kind of

(05:03):
thought I was there at the beginning of bubble Tea,
when was at about two thousand. Anyway, do get in touch.
My name as Marcus Welcome eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty nine two nine two to text. Winston's been a
bit precious a with the guy. I don't know what
he does it Tonkin and Taylor, I certainly hope he
keeps his job. Otherwise I'd been feeling differently about Tonkin
and Taylor. I could imagine going to work one day

(05:25):
on a train and seeing Winston Peters there grandstanding and
PEPs thinking I need to say something, and that's a
that's a healthy kind of thing to want to do.
And we all have bad days sometimes think oh, well,
you know, and someone cops what we have to say.
I presume that dominated talk back today. Everywhere I've heard,
there's been online polls what should you do? Should be

(05:48):
able to say anything?

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Like?

Speaker 5 (05:49):
At work?

Speaker 3 (05:49):
I mean I was sure, well, you know, should you
be able to do that? I'm probably in a slightly
different position because if I went out there and sort
of started abusing someone, probably I would expect there'd be
consequences because I am someone that works in that public realm.
If you work at Tonkin and Taylor should be able
say what you like when you're off the clock. That

(06:10):
would be my take on that one also tonight. But look,
no doubt that's been every time I've turned they ready
to I've heard people talking about that. So no doubt
that dominated the discussion today. So there's that also too today,
since I have to throw things through a few things
at you to get your grabbing. Tonight, the guy from
Chairs has died. Now, probably most of you. The first

(06:32):
thing we thought was well, I didn't know he was
still alive. It didn't look like he was going to
hang around for if. I believe he spent some time
in New Zealand filming a movie, and I think that
would be the late nineties. I remember working at a
restaurant when he was a frequent visitor. I don't know
what the movie he was filming was, but it was
certainly filmed in New Zealand. He was here for some months.

(06:59):
I will do some research. I remember what it was.
But also the other thing I can tell you about
George Went who was from Cheers, and there's a very
funny song about that. And it's not often we can
get a song about Norm from Cheers, but yes, we
might ever played that later tonight. I've just remembered the
lyrics to that. Someone remind me what the song is called. Anyway,

(07:25):
I'm putting the show together on the fly. I'm quite
enjoying this. So Norm from Cheers, but the three I
about Norm from Cheers? What was the song? Someone remembered?
I can't. I can't even google it up. I'm not
looking at the song from Cheers. I'm looking at the

(07:46):
song that contains the Norm from Cheers lyrics. What's it
called Dan? Who's it by? Yeah, that's right, that's right.
It's the welcome Matt from Cheers. What's the song called?
Play me? Anyway? So the thing about Norm from Cheers is,

(08:09):
once upon a time at christ Jewich Airport they had
a bar called the Cheers Bar, and this was like
thirty years ago, and in that bar they had animatronics
people sitting at the bar, and one of them was
Norm from Cheers, and one of them was one of
the other guys from Cheers. I think it was the

(08:30):
poster and they talked to you when you drank. Now,
how sad that a bar We've got to go and
sit next to robots that will talk to you. But
then they got sued by the Cheers people and they
had to change them into just nondescript people at the bar.

(08:55):
So that is the situation with the Cheers Bar, some
of them. It was a big deal in christ Church
at the time. We thought it was the future, but
not as much of the future as AI. But it
was pretty exciting at the time. Can you see me
as lyrics down? I couldn't find them. Was it called

(09:16):
they'll play me the welcome matt uh? Is that what
the song is called? It might be the one I'm
exactly thinking of it. You seen those lyrics through and
I'll tell people if that's the one I'm thinking of
or not. Anyway, full board men will get going with
the people. There's people there would like some more. Actually, factually,
oh eight hundred and eighty sady and nine to nine

(09:38):
two to text. Oh beautiful. I'll start drinking hot water
quite good. I don't know why I've switched, but it'll
make sense sometime. So three things they are already free speech,
Winston Peters, Smith and Cowe's and norm from Cheers you

(09:59):
hit send? Oh you have found the lyrics yet? Now
I've found them either just a song okay, dB Marcus welcome.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
Where everybody knows your name? Anyway, Smith and Curry's. As
a young child, and I'm talking six, maybe five, maybe seven,
I Smiff and Curry's fascinated me because they had the
lambsome tube system of doing the money.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Now is that the one that's that's not the one
on cables. That's the one that's hydraulics.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
No, this one's pneumatic.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (10:42):
So you.

Speaker 6 (10:44):
Would hand over your money with a receipt to the
I don't know what they would call them. Anyway, they
would put it into a little capsule where they'd go
into a tube. Zum gone. Yeah, at about two maybe three, zook,
come back with your change, your receipts for paying, and
you could leave the shops. Fascinated me.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
I wonder, I wonder why I phased that out. What
was the point of all of that.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
Well, the first the point of it was that way the.

Speaker 5 (11:21):
I'd really like a.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
Better word from the attendant. But the person telling you
the goods didn't handle the money. It was taken to
a central position and they had cashiers there that did
the money transaction. There was no money in the shop.
It was in a secure location to use an americanism,
and that was that was quite common in the fifties

(11:45):
and sixties. And I'm talking sixty five sixty six, So
in that era that wasn't unusual because there were no
point of sale pills, you know, a till was considered
a little bit yeah, not the high class. And also

(12:07):
these people shopping at Stiff and Courage. They would have
themselves a credit token that they could put in with
what they're purchasing, and then they actually have to pay cash.
It was they would have a running account that was
kept again in the cashiers are they would check your
token against what, you know, your account. This was long

(12:28):
before anything electronic, of course, and if you had a
good credit rating with them, or even perhaps a positive
credit balance, you could buy stuff without handling money, and
that was considered. They was there for the.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Time because there are there are other shops that had
things like cables that you could clip stuff on that
was quite complicated as well. The other thing I need
to use there, yes, and the other thing I probably
need to tell you about. There is a burger bar
in christ Gyge that's quite interesting and they deliver your
food in the pneumatic tubes.

Speaker 6 (13:09):
Hopefully it's not a MiG shake.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Now.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
It comes to like a canister, an animinium canister canister
that you kind of unroll and it works quite well well.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
A lot of hospitals still used the them method for
samples across vast distances, you know, and you could program
the canister go different places. If we had to go
to thematology. You push a different an exeit coator they
had to go to I don't know, tissue something. It

(13:40):
would go somewhere else. And they were very efficient. I
could a bit of a sudding on damp and shoes
there is. But the other thing that I remember, they
have conflated the memory. They had a lift caller, so
the the elevator, the lift was manually operated and they

(14:02):
had a list attendant and he would call the good
on the floors as you arrived, very much like are
you being served? You hear it in the background, I.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Think, because in those days the lift quite I think
in those days the lift were quite complicated to operate.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
Was that right handle that you went go up and
go down? Yes, I don't know if they were necessarily complicated.
I remember being allowed to operate a few I missed
the floor being dead. Even that requires skill. But the
mechanism itself was turn the handle one way, it go up,
turn the handle the other way it goes down. Not
unlike a train pushing forward, it go forward, push it backwards,

(14:44):
did go backwards. The skill was stopping where people wanted
to be.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
How many years was it since you've been dismissing Coe's dB.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Ah.

Speaker 6 (14:56):
Oh that's a great question. Maybe thirty years.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Okay, Well hasn't changed much, but now it's going. Able
to move on, d bit nice to talk interesting sown.
I feel I threw too much at you, but that's fine.
I was excited to be here. Welcome anyway. I didn't
find that song. It's called the Welcome Mad. It's from
probably about nineteen ninety two. Was big an alternative radio
at its day. Happy International Tea Day, Marcus, how do
you like your tea? What's your predictions on the budget tomorrow?

(15:25):
Budgets these days are of no interest. Really, little will
happen to be a little that we talk about, much
debated figures and much talk about tightening the belt. Thank
you Marcus for that. If I saw Winston private, I'd say,
can we have the six September the sixth Test live? Please?

(15:48):
Three TV?

Speaker 7 (15:48):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Very good, Marcus. If you're out, if you were to
shouted a supplier or customers and advertise of news talks,
there'd be whilst wearing the news talks, he'd be lanyard
or cap. Do you think that is okay? I don't, Peter,
I don't think what the person had done was illegal.
I think you can say stuff that's free speech, but

(16:14):
certainly they've made that into a big deal. I guess
because there are reporters there. Someone said that the Tonkin
and Taylor are also a client of Well ended Rails,
a client of Tonkin and Taylor, but that becomes complicated.
I think it looked bad on Tonkin and Tailor if
they did dismissed the guy or took action against them.
But you might differ. I see also the run it

(16:34):
or run it straight. They've run into some of those campaigns.
They have run into trouble. It looks like some of
those ones might be going ahead, but it appears to
be about three of them trying to go ahead. Anyway,
You're going to need to retype that text, Brink, because
I can hardly understand the writing. You're just gonna have
to edit it because I've read it and I can't

(16:55):
read that out just yet. Could it didn't make much sense,
but just spell check it that. I think it would
be good. Smith and Coey's Winston Peters, remember how Cheers?
How good Cheers was? I think you'd put that in
your top five American sitcoms. Wouldn't you. It was one

(17:16):
of those great ones that very really did they leave it.
It was always in the bar, which I think is
a great thing. I think a sitcom is great when
they don't kind of when you know what you're up against,
you know, it's just them around the bar. I think
once or twice they might have left. And then of

(17:38):
course Frasier steamed off from that too. Very well done
in its day, and every time I've seen an episode
recently it's kind of aged pretty well. Oh by the way,
if also anyone remembers that bar at the christ Jewish
Airport where it was a cheers bar and you'd sit
next to a drink next to the robot that was

(18:03):
based on him until they sued for their likeness. I
don't know who's going to pick up the mantle for
the Santa Claus because it was an extremely big deal
for Smith and Goey's. I mean, if you could actually
manage to get that going, get that ip or whatever
it's called. I mean, it's not much to it. It's
just a winter wonderland and a guy in a bed,
but you can do kind of an upmarket Santa Clause

(18:27):
could be of every exciting thing, hold your horse's lease
away with you. So the number, as I say, is oh,
by the way, nineteen eighty two chairs started. It went
for eleven seasons. But yes, skid amongst. If your doing
a talk, miname as Marcus welcome, Oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty nine two nine two detect of his
breaking news, and of course the Smith and Coen news
only came out with in the last hour also, so

(18:49):
just breaking or readjusting that it's closing for good. I
don't know what will happen to the building. You'd be
a fitty bold person to take that on. But now
that you've got the rail loop opening, it's quite handy
to every thing. In fact, with the rail loop, I

(19:10):
think that becomes an extremely attractive proposition. Maybe there's a
giant bubble tea seems to you what everyone wants. It's
what everyone goes into town for. Oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten with gelato, Oh eight hundred eighty good evening, sir,
it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Hi.

Speaker 8 (19:30):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Or eight speak unclear sounding very crisp, So thank you
for that, Lisa.

Speaker 8 (19:36):
Oh that's good. So I was just listening to the
other guy talking about Smith and Cowie, and it reminded
me of my very early years. That would have been
about the mid seventies, I think, going to George Courts
and k Road with my mum and we'd we'd part

(19:57):
in the back somewhere and we'd go across this bridge.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
That's right. There was that sort of that bridge, wasn't
there like an eb what would you call that, like
a flyer over?

Speaker 9 (20:07):
Yeah, which was quite modern in those days. Yes, And
so we'd park in the car park and go across
there and and then we're geting a lift and it
was this very manual lift where where there would be
assistance like the other guy was talking about where.

Speaker 10 (20:27):
And it was it was like a cage.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
You should. You'd bring the grid across first and then
you'd close the door and hook it in, wouldn't you.

Speaker 8 (20:36):
Yeah, there there were like two doors and that were
manually closed by this person that did it for us.
It wasn't left left for the public to do. And
he would ask you where you want to go, and
he would push the button for the correct store at
the correct level.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
And yes, there was the George Court and there was
there was Rendell's just down as well, there was two
big departments.

Speaker 8 (21:03):
Yeah, it might have been either. Now you mentioned that
it might have even been that we win the same lift.
I can't remember. And yeah, I don't know how how
we went to either Rendall's or the other one, George Courts,
but I remember particularly George Courts is very classical building,
and they's now converted to a partner.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
That's right, And I think probably for most people, I
think George Courts and Rendall's were a more sort of
a accessible situation, and what happened at Smith and Coey's
it probably was more designed to be affordable, would be
my take. I would think. Nice to hear from Elsa,
Thank you, Nicotts s Marcus.

Speaker 11 (21:39):
Good evening.

Speaker 12 (21:41):
Yeah, it's Nick here.

Speaker 13 (21:46):
How are you good?

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Thank you?

Speaker 12 (21:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (21:49):
Just regarding Smith and Coey, it's said that I'm one
of the professional tenders.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Oh hang on, you one of there?

Speaker 12 (21:59):
What professional?

Speaker 11 (22:02):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Okay, for how long have you done that?

Speaker 13 (22:06):
I've been there, I'll be doing for a number of years.
I did, will be there for about eight, eight or
nine years.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Oh well, condolences for losing your job.

Speaker 13 (22:15):
Yeah, I did seventy dig here last year.

Speaker 14 (22:20):
You did what six seventy.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Gigs seventy so seventy different shifts.

Speaker 12 (22:29):
Yeah there last year.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
And what and sorry? How long was a shift?

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Nick?

Speaker 12 (22:37):
Three? Three hours? And yeah, we started early November.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
And people booked into like five minutes slots, did they?

Speaker 12 (22:53):
You know, we could only spend five minutes with a family.
And it's pretty pretty continuous over there over the seventy gigs,
four thousand children on my knee?

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Wow, and what would happen if the if the five
minutes would I wouldn't else come and get them?

Speaker 15 (23:08):
Well?

Speaker 12 (23:09):
Well, no, we we sort of were just conscious of
the time and we tried and I mean five minutes
with the screening pread is far too long, but five
minutes with a couple of teenage kids and stuff, it's
nowhere near enough. But it's yeah, we sort of get
a feeling and we we we that they let us
know after a while, how are we tracking?

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah, and it's mainly for then. It was manly a
photo opportunity too, was it.

Speaker 12 (23:36):
Yeah? Yeah, well they get the photo. Yeah, it's but
the whole experience, the whole center experience is world renowned.
They got the enchanted forest with all the center of
reindeer workshops and stuff and and and they're going to
a you know, so in the room. I mean, I've
done malls. I've done heat and malls and you know

(23:57):
smith and Cory's the census. Every center's favorite place.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Oh, more than one place? You more than one place
is center.

Speaker 12 (24:03):
Yeah, I've done most of them all, and i'd have
you know, my first choice is when you get our rosters,
which is usually around about September October, and I wait
for the center for the Smithy Coey's roster, and then
all the other mauls will work around that.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
So is this some is this some business that runs
all the centers?

Speaker 13 (24:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (24:28):
Well yeah, these with there's twenty six centers there and
the six on the floor at any one moment.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
But you you hold hang on, hang on. Are you
booked to go to other malls as well?

Speaker 12 (24:41):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, by the.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Same by the same age, from the same agent.

Speaker 12 (24:47):
No, no, no, I work for about three different recruitment companies.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Oh okay, I understand, Okay, I appreciate terrible line bred,
but I appreciate that. Thank you. I appreciate you coming
through next. Sorry. By the way, of course, for the
young people listening, there are Probably these are just representative
centers until the real one can come through. I guess
we've got to tall you that, don't we this time
of the year. So that's what there's just it's just

(25:11):
for the photo chants because so you can actually yeah,
I think you get that whole drift. Anyway, some extremely
good texts. The good texts are back, and that's an
exciting thing. Someone's texture that said, what are people texting?
Actually we just bring those ones up. Any kid listening
throughout this time of the night should be on the
NAISI list anyway, exactly. George Courts and John Courts were

(25:33):
on opposite corners Renders further down the k Road opposites
and Keevintac not familiar with the John Courts, but I'm
sure someone will know about that. Marcus is Nick ringing
from the North Pole, noisy and weird that his name
is Nick. You're really weird. He's sounded young for a father.
Christmas Marcus. I've just had a left of meeting at

(25:53):
Trust Stadium and we're stalkland run it straight going on
to the own absolutely huge crowd. That was always going
to happen with that sort of publish I think it's
the heat tonight? Is it?

Speaker 16 (26:02):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (26:02):
The heat? Is the heat? Marcus? Can they stop mentioning?
Running it straight on the news? Now it's gone, Tony destroyed. No,
I think that was just one of them. But is
it trust stadium tonight? If that's what you mean. Good evening, Brent.

Speaker 17 (26:18):
Welcome, Hi Marcus? How are you good?

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Brent?

Speaker 17 (26:23):
That's the story? Hey, I sent you that text.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
You couldn't be that's right to say.

Speaker 17 (26:29):
It's a book called Machines Like Me written by a
guy called em McEwan.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Oh, yelled mckuwen YEA, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 17 (26:37):
It's related to AI. This can gets left three hundred
and fifty thousand pounds and he buys a robot that
is so low lifelike people can't differentiate whether it is
human or whether it's a robot. And he introduces it
to his girlfriend and it copulates with her wow, which

(27:04):
is kind of bizarre. And he takes it to parties.
He is the scary, but he takes it to parties
and introduces it to people, and the robot sets on
the side no, and can tell that he's not human.
It says to him, I don't trust him, and he'll say,
but you don't have that capacity, and the robot says,

(27:27):
don't I. Well, no, that's that's a scary tale.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
What takes you? Has he got a kill switch?

Speaker 17 (27:39):
Well, it's it runs out of power. Here, it runs
out of power, but then it learns how to actually
recharge power. You know, it click power on before it
knows it's going to run out of power. So he
has to do away with its lead. But the whole
thing is very scary when something like that that can

(28:02):
talk says don't I have that capacity? Because he read
them annual about what it could do, but he didn't
think it could do that with his girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
And what did the girl? What did the girlfriend think
about that?

Speaker 17 (28:15):
She was quite It just happens to be very attractive.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Was she none the wiser?

Speaker 17 (28:21):
She was none the wiser?

Speaker 7 (28:23):
Wow?

Speaker 17 (28:25):
Crazy, good book to read. And another good book he wrote,
it's called Saturday. That's a very good book.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
I've read that book.

Speaker 18 (28:32):
Have you?

Speaker 17 (28:33):
They will read read machines like about very good.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Tell me about Saturday. Is there a balloonist or something?

Speaker 17 (28:39):
No, Saturday is about a guy who.

Speaker 19 (28:43):
Is a.

Speaker 17 (28:45):
He's a brain surgeon or whatever. And he goes down,
goes down and gets some preissants and he has an
accident and it wasn't his fault in the people he
hit weren't the most likable people, so they home invade
him and it all turns a bit nasty.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
What's the one with the balloon?

Speaker 17 (29:06):
Not read that, but you must see that when you
spoke about I'm in christ Church, about the christ judge
bar with those tears characters, I thought, well, I wonder
how life right they would have been. I never went there.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
But so Enduring Lover is when the people witness a
ballooning accent. That's the other in me cure and one
ballooning Enduring Love, which is a good read.

Speaker 17 (29:31):
Yeah good, he's a good author.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
One of the greats, one of the greats. Hey, but
tell me something. I don't know about you, but I'm
a big fan of robots having a kill switch. Have
you got strong feelings about that?

Speaker 17 (29:42):
I think that is a necessity when you read what
Ian McEwan thinks might happen, because.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Now they're doing backflip. Now they're doing backflips and all
sorts of stuff.

Speaker 17 (29:52):
Yeah, hey, I think you've got to have a kill switch.
I don't think i'd like one taking off as my girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
No, I've been more concerned about well, yeah, okay, I
was also. I was also slightly concerned that when they
had that prowler at Margo mar Lago Trump's place before
he took over power. The second time the prowler was
caught by robotic dogs that were that were monitoring the

(30:21):
boundary fence.

Speaker 17 (30:26):
Hey, well, I'm I'm sure they'd probably make a mess
with somebody because.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
They sound terrifying, don't they do. Yeah, it's bad enough
normal dogs, but once robotic dogs come at you, jeep,
is it? Brent? Thank you. I appreciate your text now
that I understand what that was about. But no one's
yet rung up and talking about the bar at the
Christchiech Airport with Norm from Cheers and also talk about

(30:52):
Smith and I know people love nostalgia, but yeah, I
don't even know what to say about Smith and Coey's
huge number of staff. Yes, a very successful I didn't
really experience the grotto or the workshop. I guess we're

(31:15):
more of a farmer's family with their free bus up
that would go in mckew and gosh, today was the
anniversary of amiliar Earhart's flight. Thank you for that. Never
to be seen again. Every five years there's someone found
there wreckage, haven't they. I've read some fairly good reportage
on that about just what happens. This is a text markets.

(31:42):
Can they stop mentioning running it straight in the news
now it's gone totally destroyed. No, I think it's still
going badline for the North Pole need and back in
decemberfore his stories. Please so now there's probably the only
apartment department store that has left I would think in
the whole of the country would be Ballantine's, and that's

(32:05):
always looking lightly hollowed out these days. You might want
to mention that, Marcus. Lots of public sympathy for Smith
and Koey, but reality is consumers aren't shopping their hence
the closure. Well, there's only sympathy in the terms of nostalgia,
but people lamenting the end of Smith and Kowey as
they're filling out their order formers for Timu or whatever

(32:29):
they're doing online. I mean that's the reality. People have changed,
haven't they. They've gone about the roadworks in the parking,
but people want to buy stuff online. Our mess. You's
put Mesh in your top five comedies. Fair enough to
remember we all tune in for the last episode of
mass and there was no laugh line or that was
telling them that they were wow. Look at that no
laughs and that no fun in war, Clinger in the

(32:49):
dress Radar with his thick glasses difficult to work with.
They reckon hot lips. Hulahan, It's all coming back, Marcus.
Funny thing about robot dogs. One of the main dogs
made advantages. They can spell you out, kind of robots
spell you hiding in a bush? Still remember that terrible voice?

(33:15):
What what someone's referring to on that Someone said, I
would say that few American comedies are funny. Well, I
think most would disagree with you. Actually, I think we're
sort of beyond that. Only the Brits can do humor
type thing from the fifties. But oh well that's you
do you, you do you, and welcome you. Oh, by
the way, we know what was the movie that George

(33:37):
went filmed in New Zealand? And It was a big
deal at the time, but not a very good film.
Never Say Die with Tim with a Morrison. It was
a big deal. Never Say Die Jeff Murvie movie, The

(34:04):
Great Tony Barry. John Clark was a car salesman It
was kind of a police chase around the country with
a house in Grayland that blew up. You remember it,
nineteen eighty eight, Well you might remember it. It was
a good watch. Actually, I might rewatch it on the
back of that five to nine here till midnight. Good evening, John, welcome.

Speaker 11 (34:26):
Him, Marcus. How are you using this?

Speaker 7 (34:28):
Good?

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Thank you John.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Good.

Speaker 11 (34:31):
Now I'll start at the bottom in the things. Yes, yes,
Arthur Banet's was that that even top shop?

Speaker 3 (34:44):
What the cargel?

Speaker 11 (34:46):
No, No, I'm starting at Arthur Bannette.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Do you said you're starting at the bottom.

Speaker 11 (34:51):
Well, no, I haven't got a bottom. That part with
the big guys, the big guy.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
The big H and J's was one of the great
department stores in the country.

Speaker 11 (35:00):
So Arthur Barnets was too.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah, but I think in the end H and J's
board Arthur Barnett. Okay, Ancient Jays, then Arthur Barnet and Duneda.

Speaker 11 (35:08):
Yes, then Valentine's. In christ Church. Beasts were also in
christ Church.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Pattern Beasts how's that spelled.

Speaker 11 (35:21):
B E A t HS, Beasts, Beasts and Armstrongs. They
were the top three in christ Church. I used to
work for such of these people.

Speaker 19 (35:32):
Were you are ripped?

Speaker 16 (35:34):
No.

Speaker 11 (35:35):
I used to be a footwear buyer lady the Ladies.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yes, I realized that I had.

Speaker 11 (35:41):
Eighteen staff and then Valentine's in christ chirts eighteen staff.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Then Wellington, no christ Church? Are you moving up the country.

Speaker 11 (35:54):
A Wellington you had Cocordias Stains, James Smith and d C.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yes. And where else.

Speaker 11 (36:06):
No they there main ones No. And then you went
to Paris North you had Joice's Joyces.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Right yep.

Speaker 11 (36:17):
And then you went to Auckland and there's nothing in Hamilton,
no big stores in Hamilton. Then you went to walk
near Spit and Curries which was a beautiful shop, beautiful
shop and farmers. So they were the two big ones
in Auckland. And I used to sell all that or
predict what woman was going to be wearing in the

(36:40):
ladies foot where six months or nine months ahead?

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Goodness? Do you still follow the trends?

Speaker 11 (36:46):
No? I don't because I've eighty four now. Mean I'm
you know, but I hear you talking about and I
thought you couldn't get the one Undernead and I thought
Arthur Bannets.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Thank you very much, John, I appreciate that. Just so
you know, I'm not saying this to drive talk back,
traffic chatter or conversation, but I think it's undignant. And
this is going to sound weird for me because it's
going to sound pious and slightly righteous, and that's fine.
I think it lacks. I think it's undignified for our

(37:21):
finance minister to call it the no b S budget.
I know she's probably trying to sound tough and no nonsense,
but yeah, yeah, it just kind of sits wrong with me.
Not a big deal in the scheme of things. I mean,
why not call it the no bullshit budget? You wouldn't
say that, would you, So I abbreviate it. But yeah,

(37:43):
I kind of think she's miss a trick with that one,
and already by that's put her on the back foot
of it. But that's just my comment. It might be
one of the most compelling and exciting documents, but she
could have framed in a slightly more less confrontational, more
kind of growing up way. It's beneath the office she holds.

(38:03):
I think there you go. Any we are a good
text coming through. We are talking about the death of
the apartment store, and that very much has happened by
the way, this is an international thing. I think you
find that your David Jones in your minds and Australia
aren't quite what they used to be. I don't know
what's happened internationally. Herod's is still the thing. Of course,
that guy that owned it appeared to be fairly grubby,

(38:24):
didn't he now as he did now? I think Dodie's dad.
But yeah, it's sort of what's happening around the world.
I think as retail falls and will not retail falls,
but people buy online and go to the malls. So
someone has said that Hamilton did have a mall, so
you might want to ring about that. So I did
not have a mall at it did have an apartment

(38:47):
store at an apartment store with the DIC and a
lift attendant in Chandler House, very exclusive for Cowtown. By
the way, someone's texted me the entire copy of Never
Say Die, of the movie with George went in it,
and there's a scene with we'd a Morrison and a
car and another guy who I think is I can't

(39:11):
quite work out the actor doing that, but anyway, the
line that this guy uses three times a week, and
you might remember this from the movie never say die,
I'm looking for Prognini strog Nostrovitch. Yeah, it's quite a
fun rob that one. At ten past nine summon Texters.
Agree with you about the budget title, just be genuine.

(39:33):
People really respond well to people that are genuine in themselves,
not full of bluster and pretense. Get in touch people.
My name is Marcus. Welcome Heedal midnight tonight. We are
discussing department stores. Smith and Coe's finally gone. There had
a second go of it. I bet they wish they hadn't. Actually,
there's probably good gesture of closed the store down when

(39:55):
they did, like a year or so ago, but that's
what did. They gave another another go. It didn't work,
But there's going to be a huge hole for a
winter wonderland or a center's workshop. I don't know where
they'd put one of those now, Marcus, I agree the
government talk about standards and call the new budget no
bs really, Susie, Yeah, it's just wrong. It's just the optics.

(40:18):
Well what's the sound version of optics? But it's all wrong. Marcus.
I agree with you about the name of the budget.
No nonsense budget would have been much more prepped, exactly
absolutely exactly. I mean that might be the fun talk
in the belt, whey you'll talk like that, but I
think people expect something a bit better, especially with old
Winston going on about that guy, sort of profaning him.

(40:42):
But yes, and you know, I might be prone to
colorful language off here, but it's a time and place
that I would indulge it on here because it's the
wrong kind of thing for it. When you start getting
involved with the language like that, it's always a race
to the bottom lines free if you want to talk
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Marcus, I agree, it's

(41:03):
an odd thing to say for a finance person. Also,
balance sheet can be shortened to b S and finance
to speak. Thank you for that. Maybe it's a no
balance sheet budget. That's probably what she'll be criticized about tomorrow,
she said byes, But she might have been balance sheet.
The juniors would be picking that up. By the way,
discovered something today, the battery save mode on your cell phone.

(41:30):
You go into set trees, you go into battery. Is
there any downside to that? Marcus? Pressly, I'm not bothered
too much with Nicholas no Bs where I do find issue,
whether it's the PEM and others across the media saying
furking or is it fricking? Which you want as a
placement for the F word? Just saying cheers Terry. Yeah,

(41:55):
well they try and get down with the people, don't
They just come across looking like Gidiat's that's my take
on that. John, it's Marcus. Good evening and welcome.

Speaker 20 (42:07):
Is that you talking to Steward to John?

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Yes, I'm talking to John.

Speaker 20 (42:12):
Oh, okay, I didn't expect you to come up that correct.
But on the subject of AI, I heard that somebody
had been defending their position of their security in the
workplace because because they had so much experience, and I

(42:35):
immediately sawt a'll ring in and I thought it was
your program, But maybe it wasn't, and it doesn't matter.
The thing is I immediately saw it. This is where
AI can actually help people that have got a huge
amount of knowledge to spread that knowledge more widely and

(42:57):
more accurately than they can as an individual.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
Yeah, do you agree with that?

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Yeah, maybe tell me more about this. Well, who was
saying they weren't going to get replaced by AI? I'm
interested in that.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Ah.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
He was a guy that works in.

Speaker 20 (43:18):
Detecting leaky buildings, yes, and he considered himself to be
quite an expert at it, and he didn't feel threatened
by the concept of AI because he was pretty onto it.
But the thing is he could be miles more onto
it if he used AI to be able to be

(43:41):
more places at the same time.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
More accurately, exactly.

Speaker 5 (43:47):
Right.

Speaker 20 (43:47):
And so that I just kind of sort all of
ring in because I think you've opened it up to
a bit of general topic rather than something and the
thing for.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Me and talk back. I don't know with AI if
the AI will replace the callers or the host or both.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
So I've got a really.

Speaker 20 (44:05):
Good friend at a very successful winemaker in the Hawk's Bay,
and I was through going to his sieve India's birthday party.
I meet a person from AI who's based in New
Zealand that's Worldwide board and he's very good about AI.
And so I said to my friend, very close friend.

(44:28):
I said to him, you know, like, if you're coming
up to retirement, you possibly need to look at AI
because you need to be in several places at once
and you really want to be spending more time with
your loved ones and not working so hard and he said, well,
how would that work? And I said, well, I think

(44:49):
AI probably presents the opportunity because you can people can
get access to your knowledge and without you actually being there.

Speaker 7 (45:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Were you saying that to the winemaker or to the
AI guy?

Speaker 20 (45:04):
No, to the wine maker. Okay, that's one night I
was talking to the AI guy who is one of
his closest friends. And the next night I talked to
him and said, well, you know, this is possibly the
way that you can retire and your your expertise and
your future aspirations actually carry on with greater access to

(45:26):
the people without overloading you and your retirement years.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
That's quite powerful.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Oh powerful, all right? Be the end of civilization? Probably?

Speaker 20 (45:38):
Oh well, I just you know what is going to
be the end of civilization when you look at what's
going on around the.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
World, Probably probably AI when they become well be what's
what's the word, when they become sentient?

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (45:53):
I mean.

Speaker 20 (45:53):
And then there was somebody in the in the discussion
somewhere along the line talking about about no idea in
the same subject was people are saying AI isn't a
bit of a threat because but you know.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
It sounds like a pretty dry party if this is
a party and a wine or eat cheapers.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
No, no, I just said that I was at that party.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Oh yeah, but it sounds like quite a serious topic.

Speaker 20 (46:24):
Oh No, it wasn't at the party itself. It was
the next day the party summer lunch event, where I
just kind of got closer to this guy that's involved
with AI and he said, well, at the end of
the day, don't be scared of it instead of what
it is if you're not using it, because if you
if you're really successful at something and truly successful, not

(46:48):
a cono, then you really do want to share that
knowledge of your expertise in that. They'll say, like wine making,
that's what a winemaker is. A winemaker is a person
that's involved in the storyline in a marketing line and
it's got enough experience to be winning all the awards.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Live at the Stuart. But nice to talk to you.
Thank you for that news from the New South Wales
Mid Coast. In Australia, Mid mid Coast chaos as cows
washed up on beaches. Where did the cows come from?
They're walking jeeves, Lola, Yes, you.

Speaker 7 (47:38):
Were asking about that departmental store in Devon Street.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Yes, thank you.

Speaker 5 (47:46):
Yes, I can hardly hear you.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
I wonder what it is. Oh was it really?

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Well you can't hear me. Can you hear me now?

Speaker 5 (48:01):
Adam?

Speaker 7 (48:01):
I can hear you better now, okay?

Speaker 6 (48:03):
Cool?

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Where did it close down?

Speaker 7 (48:07):
I don't know because I wasn't in the Taranaki district
at the time.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Okay, but it did have the police system. Is that right?

Speaker 7 (48:18):
Yes, they put the receipts and the thing paul a
lever and away it went to the office.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Okay. Why did they not trust the workers with money
or was just was it just simpler that way?

Speaker 7 (48:28):
You'd put the money in there and they and they'd
send the change back in it.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
It seems like a complicated way to do it, doesn't it.

Speaker 7 (48:36):
Well that's how they did it. I don't know any
other store that operated that system.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
No, Well, find and it was it was on basket.
Was it on bulldog clips?

Speaker 7 (48:48):
No, it was a little round tin sort of thing,
and and it just oh, you just pulled the lever
and it went was into the office.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Okay, maybe we might find something that worked in the
office and know what they actually did there. Thank you
for that, good evening, grace. This is Marcus welcome, good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 21 (49:08):
I've lived in Auckland all my life except when I
came from My parents came from Gisbon when i was
five years old, so I've got eighty years of memories
of Smith and CEY's. Wow, I've tried to think what
that the payment procedure was at Smith and Colly's. That
the lady has just been trying to describe about a

(49:31):
cylinder on a line that was sent upstairs to the offices,
So the money was actually had handled upstairs. So that
was the money part of it. But the other things
I've thought about since I heard you talking about Smith
and CEY's is all the stuff that will especially I

(49:52):
remember the female staff were all always dressed very smartly
in black uniforms. The toilets were penny in the slot,
which was I can imagine that these days. And they
had a very nice ladies' restroom where mums could feed

(50:13):
their babies and change their babies, which was part of
the toilet complex area. The counters were old fashion. Behind
the counters were old fashion drawers that held gloves in
one one drawer and scarves in another, and that sort

(50:36):
of thing. The old fashion type of holding, you know,
the products that they had. Some of the Coe's was
has always been a high end retailer. There was, of course.
The others were, and I've grown up with all of them.
Was the Farmers, George and John Courts and Randolph's, which

(51:01):
you could class those as sort of more of a
working person's department store. And I know about George and
John Courts because I grew up just along the road
from where George Courts used to be, on the corner
of Front Street and Crangapi Road.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Oh yes, yeah.

Speaker 21 (51:20):
John Court's, for memory, was halfway down Queen Street. I
think eventually it became whit Calls.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Oh yes.

Speaker 21 (51:29):
There should be quite a lot of people round about
my age in the eighties and nineties that have lovely
memories of those places. A closer memory of George and
John Courts is there's a Court Crescent in Pamua and
the original Court Home is actually on Court Crescent.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Okay, how do you know, so, Elia, are you a historian?
Because you know a lot, don't you.

Speaker 16 (51:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (51:58):
Up until ten or plus, I belonged to the local
Historical Society.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
In which area this is Pamua.

Speaker 21 (52:08):
I actually live in Court Present. I actually live in
Court present and right opposite me is the Court what
I've always called it the Court Homestead. It would originally
been surrounded by acres of farmland, and because it's near
the foot of Mount Wellington, and because that's where you know,

(52:28):
the horse breeding and a hunt club was and all
those sort of things in the market gardens. So I've
really got some wonderful memories of Smith and Coey's.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
It was lovely.

Speaker 21 (52:42):
It was a treat when I got older and when
I was working to go to Smith and Coey's for
a cup of tea.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Yes, I've very good. Nice to hear from you, Grace,
Thank you for those meenories. Twenty six to ten. There
is a big website you can go to about have
all the different shops and the different systems they had.
A lot of them had something called a cash railway,
which we think different from the pumatic system. It's a
remarkable website. But a lot of them had the kesh railway,

(53:13):
a lot of them had a wire system, a lot
of them had a cable system, and some had the
pneumatic system. All extremely interesting. Actually, good evening, Billet's Marcus, welcome, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
Good evening. Sorry, I'm just telling you, going to explain.
The pulling system was made by a company from the
East end of London called Lambson Paragon. Yes, they made
that system in all the department stores around the world actually,

(53:47):
and that was the later That was.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
The Pulley system, not the pneumatic system.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
No, the pneumatic system came later, and that was with
air and tubes.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Okay, so the same couple did it, did they?

Speaker 5 (53:58):
I believe so I'm not sure on that. But the
original what was Lambson Paragon, and they were called Lemson
Paragon and they're.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Called cash railways. That was a general name for them.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Was it.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
I wouldn't know what they called it. It's just a
wire system and they pulled it like it sprung away
back to the cashier.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Yeah, okay, that's fascinating. I appreciate that, Thank you, Bill.
Some of them seem to have balls that would roll
down too. The cash ball system manufactured in the thirties.
The cash is conveyed in the hollow wooden balls running
along a pair of inclined tracks. The top one slopes
down from sales point to kesha and the bottom slopes
the other way. They were literally kind of railways gravity

(54:45):
fed Railways. Hello, Willie, it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 19 (54:50):
Hey, did I buddy? Here you go? Mate?

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Good?

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Thanks, Willy, Hey, just.

Speaker 15 (54:55):
One of those pictures here. I run a restaurant and
towering on the waterfront, and the name of the restaurant
was called Lemson's.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Oh yes.

Speaker 15 (55:06):
And in the day, the Lensns they were on why
are police? And the lady down below she would put
the money in the Lensen thing and she'd send it
up to the teller up top.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Wow.

Speaker 15 (55:24):
And they are actually called Lensen's. Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
You go.

Speaker 15 (55:34):
Believe it or not. Like this restaurant under I took
over very upmarket restaurant. They still had all them in there,
and sometimes people are a bit naughty with them, you know,
put a bit of undergarment on and send it right
across the obston at the restaurant.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
So when was this that it was still going, Willie?

Speaker 15 (55:56):
I know it was closed down, but they still were.
They still had the lenses working, but it was just
a feature in the restaurant. And it's called land Jair.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
But whenabouts was this, Willy, pardon, when was this restaurant open?

Speaker 11 (56:14):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (56:15):
You're going back to nineties, early nineties, Okay, but it
had always been there as it always been there on
the waterfront. Hey, can I ask you something else?

Speaker 19 (56:26):
Mate?

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Can I just stick with us for a Secah? The question,
so would this place? Was it a new medic tuber?
Was it right at Whys and Pulleys? Yes, yep it
was Wyse and Pulleys.

Speaker 15 (56:38):
Correct Roger that yes, yep, definitely mate, Yes.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
And before it was a restaurant was it a department store?

Speaker 15 (56:47):
Yes? It was yes.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Okay, what's your question?

Speaker 2 (56:53):
You know?

Speaker 15 (56:54):
And rug me, okay, this is going off the chart,
and rugged me like if a rugby will come down
HiT's one of the planes square in the head and
whatever would they would they go take love for?

Speaker 2 (57:07):
You know that?

Speaker 15 (57:08):
He and look at the reader masking this is my daughter.
She knows a friend that's a good one. With players
in the Penwich soccer and higgetspan headaches and all if
she said was how can they hit up balls all
the time? But any rugby players get one knock and

(57:30):
they get tacking off your checked.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
I think there is concerns about head knocks with the
ball and football. And I don't think they practice hitting
at practice. They just do it at matches because they've
realized they could get repercussions from it. It is something
that's recognized and they are looking about for that, Willie.
But thank you, Vicki. It's Marcus. Good evening, Good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 22 (57:51):
I'm wondering up to say that my first job after
leaving school was operating the wire cash railway system in
a department store.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Fantastic.

Speaker 20 (58:00):
We worked in the office of.

Speaker 22 (58:01):
The office junior receptionist and all the money came in
on the wire system is actually called a Lemsen rapid
wire cash railway system.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Is it lents and with two ends or.

Speaker 7 (58:17):
Now l A M S O N.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
So it was called a lamps on.

Speaker 22 (58:24):
Red rapid wire cash railway system.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
So whereabouts were you what's what building?

Speaker 22 (58:32):
I was in Thames and in tims coramanal Manicola, and
I worked in a shop called a Court and Son,
and it was it had four or five different departments
means where ladies wear material, habitashery, and they all had that.
They all had that little thing. You screw it up,

(58:53):
fulled canister and it screwed up and then you pulled
the cord and it went into the office where I sat.
And they had a docket that came with the money,
and you made sure that they'd added the docket up correctly,
and then you put the change in the folded it
all up in the docket and put it back in
the canister and screwed it up and pulled the wire

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and it shot off to the department that came from.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
And just to clarify, was it on a pulley or
was it a eumatic system?

Speaker 16 (59:21):
No?

Speaker 22 (59:22):
Police, it was on a police put the scud down
and off it went like a rocket.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
And yet how was the canister?

Speaker 16 (59:28):
Hell?

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Was it clipped onto the system?

Speaker 22 (59:30):
No, it's screwed on and you unscrewed it.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Okay, And how many different how many different tracks would
be because each track had the same there in return
one did it?

Speaker 22 (59:43):
Yeah, it had its own separate returns. So okay, they
all came into the one. Only one could go at
one time.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
But if you had a sale day, that's okay.

Speaker 20 (59:52):
They were going pretty fast.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
But how many different lines were coming in? Like half
a dozen different lines coming in? Were there?

Speaker 5 (59:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (59:59):
Four?

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
Four okay, came in from each parts.

Speaker 22 (01:00:01):
Well, there was four departments from memory, and they came
in a line coming from each the par artment they
had a little little hole. The office sat up high
and the little hole had a little cut out in
the wall.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
And where it came for.

Speaker 22 (01:00:15):
It came in from that department.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
How was it powered?

Speaker 22 (01:00:21):
Yes, spring powered?

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Okay, okay, so it's just okay, So it was spring power.
There's a pull that go ah okay.

Speaker 6 (01:00:28):
So it was pulled down and went like a rocket.

Speaker 22 (01:00:31):
Yeah, straight down to the to the department. And then
that person unscrewed it and got the money out. Yeah, yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Why why would they a thing? Was that because there
were no cash registers in those days.

Speaker 22 (01:00:47):
Yeah, there was no cash register at each counter. No,
that's how they operated it. The cash just came up.

Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
To the office.

Speaker 22 (01:00:54):
And yeah, you were responsible for giving back the correct
change and making sure they had added the docket up
in the first place correctly, and then you and it's
that the money just went to that one department all day.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Was the document handwritten, the docket.

Speaker 22 (01:01:10):
A carbon copied yep?

Speaker 7 (01:01:12):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
And how many of you in that little box up the.

Speaker 22 (01:01:15):
Top, A senior receptionist and me the junior wow.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
And times it would be quiet and times it would
be flat out, I suppose.

Speaker 22 (01:01:25):
Yes, if you had a sale day it was flat out,
but when it was quiet because the juniors would all
be play up a bit and they'd seen spied as
an awfut wrepped.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Up in those of course they did. Vicky, are we
talking Are we talking the nineteen sixties?

Speaker 22 (01:01:43):
No, yeah, very late sixties. I were there, but they
had been operating for quite a while. There was another
store in Teams at the time called Heatherington's and they
also had the same system.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Wow, fantastic, VICKI thank you so much. I've loved that
more than you can imagine. I've got to bring those back.
Thank you so much for that. By the way. By
the way, of course, a Ted West from Outrageous Fortune.
They robbed Smith and Coey's well, they robbed the Juwel
and next doraor of the Cougar ends remember, and Ted
West wit inside for three years. John Marcus good evening, Hi,

(01:02:16):
Hi John.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
I worked for a company called I N. L and
Lower Heart, and we had one of those vacuum tube
things to send the corrections and bruce to the proof readers.
We could an a plastic tube that had suck it
up and you could hear it rattling away above your head.

(01:02:40):
Then you could hear coming back deliver it to the
who made the Friday flesh.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Oh okay, So you're you're a printing publisher, were you?

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
I did the what it's called cold type yep, okay, yeah,
And that was in nineteen eighty five and I left
in eighty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Was it quite a complicated system with there a number
of different routes?

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
I think it was only maybe one maybe one more okay,
the editor, but it was on a different floor and
where's a fair walk?

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
So all this, I guess is replaced by computer, so
that all you're doing is saving you going back, because
you'd be making a lot of trips each day, would you.

Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
We didn't make the ships ourselves, but I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Talking about if it wasn't, there'd be walking back and forward?

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Was it reliable system that breakdown?

Speaker 23 (01:03:37):
Much?

Speaker 5 (01:03:39):
As far as I know, it seemed to be okay.
But it was just funny to he hear them rattling,
see him coming along when they hit a joint.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
It's a shame. Well, of course there is that one
preserved in that cafe and Christ judge, but it seems
that we should be doing more to preserve them. There
needs to be a museum for them. Thank you for that.
Seven from ten Good Evening Gaiale. Hello, it's Marcus, Welcome, Hi, no.

Speaker 10 (01:04:02):
Curse, how are you jing? I remained of the the
system that you're talking about. They used to have one
at a department store Core George and George in Newtown
and Wellington.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Oh, tell me more about that.

Speaker 10 (01:04:22):
Well, I was a young child at the time living
in Newtown and that was the largest department store that
we had, and it was right in a Newtown's school,
primary school, and we used to go on there and
they used to as one lady said, there were no
such a as credit cards, so you think it had
to be cash. So whenever you bought, the lady behind

(01:04:45):
the counter would put the cash into the sort of
trolley thing and then it would whizz off above your
head really fast, which was quite frightening at times, because
it just whizz that went from from where you would
purchase your your goods to somewhere which is an office
which is above your head, and and then they would

(01:05:07):
put the change back of it and you'll come back again.
So it was quite an interesting thing to watch as
a child growing up.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
Yeah, because I'm amazed. They didn't just have cash registers.

Speaker 10 (01:05:20):
No, nothing like that either, not that I can remember.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
That mustn't have been. I can't quite work out why not,
but that seems to you what they've done.

Speaker 10 (01:05:31):
Yeah, well, I was quite surprised that they had one.
After listening to you tonight, I thought, I remember that
a new Town of all places, and it was a
department store called.

Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
George and George.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
What sort of stuff would they say? All sorts of.

Speaker 10 (01:05:45):
Goods, all sorts of things? I say, any any typical department.

Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
Store, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Look and looking at that, there's a there's a list
of all the places they had that system. It's quite
a long list of them. So thank you for that.
I enjoyed that call. I appreciate that. And New Town
get in touch. My name is Marcus. Welcome. We'll talk
more about this after the news If you had to
come through eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, I can
tell you too that I have got some information through
here that Frank Gibson Junior has died, extremely well known

(01:06:19):
and acclaimed drummer. His wife has contacted the newsroom to
say that it's with great sadness I let you know
that my husband, the legendary drummer Frank Gibson Junior, has
passed away today, so no doubt on audio culture and
some of those other music websites there will be fairly
deep dives into his career of probably seventy five years.

(01:06:42):
I'd think I think luded his father's knee quite young there.
So that's news that's through also too. So you might
want to mention that the next hour we're here until
midnight tonight, we are talking about the end of Smith
and coey Zah and the aerial railways that were in
some of those places. Someone said, Marcus Smister start this convo,

(01:07:06):
but crazy to think that drive through banking in America
is still done at this today with vacuum canisters sent
to the tellers inside the bank. Marcu's got to bring
the conversation back to Costco. Costco in the US, some
of them still use the tube system. I've been at
one in Los Angeles where they had the tube outlet
at every register. I believe they would load the cash

(01:07:30):
into the register begin of a person shift, and then
close out the register there, fill up the tube and
send it back from Tony. We are spending much time
tonight looking and talking about cash railways. There seems to
be five different systems ball, cable lifts, wire, anumatic tube.

(01:07:50):
There's good websites. It's obviously obsessives that kind of follow
them all and look for photos. It's quite fascinating. I
haven't quite yet really understand understood the point of all
of them, but I presume it was because they couldn't
have tills. Well, they didn't trust their staff. I'm not
quite sure which is which. I don't know. Someone might

(01:08:12):
know more about this, Someone might work the benefits of
a centralized cashste whether it could be more closely supervised
by management. There was less opportunity for pilfering, and it
freed up their assistant to attend to the customer, perhaps
make further or better sales. There we go, just like that.

(01:08:36):
Good evening, David Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Yeah, Hi Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 11 (01:08:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
I worked for the company that in fact invented, manufactured
and installed those wire systems and the tube systems. The
wire system was called rapid wire, and that was in
the old department stores, as you were talking about, and
then when that became sort of supersededs. If you like

(01:09:03):
the tube system come in and they were manufactured by
a company called Lampson Paragon, which was an English company
and had branches in different parts of the world, and
in New Zealand of Australia, the company was called Lampson
Paragon and the tube systems were installed by part of

(01:09:26):
that company called Mamson Engineering. And there were many many
tube systems throughout New Zealand, but one of the more
recent developments of that tube system was at twy point
and what they used to do there in the smelter,
they would put samples of the smeltered aluminium into a

(01:09:48):
tube and shoot it across the road to the laboratory
to be tested. And that was the best and most
efficient way to get it from a very hot environment
to a laboratory type environment. And they used the choose
system to do that, and that was probably one of
the more it's going way back many years, but it

(01:10:10):
was probably one of the last systems that were installed.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
IDA should reach there because at t y today, so
did that require a special cannister to put the hot
sample in.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Yes, they're DIAD, but the system was the same in
terms of instiding it into the tube system itself and
then the system that then superseded dat was one called
tele lift, and the telelift was a more electronically controlled

(01:10:43):
and it used to go up inside building. So the
mail would all come into the bottom of a high
rise building and the mail would be sorted in the
mail room and put into these telelift systems, and then
you'd hit the button and I'd go on a railway
system up inside the infrastructure of the building and pop

(01:11:03):
out on the fifth floor, the tenth boor the thirtieth
or whatever and deliver the mail to whatever that company
was on that floor. So that was the development after
the Tude system.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
So tell me a bit more about that.

Speaker 6 (01:11:18):
What was that?

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Was that wired driven or how was that powered?

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
I think that not one hundred percent said that. It
was only like a little railway line gripped.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
They gripped under the right understand.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
It would go up. It would go up vertically up
inside the building, if you like. And then they have
a like a gimbal type system like they have on
ships yep, so that the Telly lift would remain equal.
And they used it also in hospitals for delivering blood
samples and things like that between floors and high roads

(01:11:54):
hospital setups.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
So did any places. Did any places have that system
in New Zealand?

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
That?

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Yes? Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Oh, yes, yes, yes, lots of them. Yeah, it was.
It was a big It was a big operation. I
mean I eventually did at a time as CEO of
what was then Lambson Paragon English company sold out to
an American company called More and it was called More
Business Systems and they changed their name that it was

(01:12:26):
and More took over the English company Lambson Paragon. But
it's a really old old company.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
Could you tell me some of the name of the
could you tell me some of the name of the
buildings that had that later system? No, I can't because
I remember when I remember my mother was at UCLAM Hostel,
that main big tall building overlooking the domain. There was
a lance and tube system and that that they used
to send samples around. So that must have that looked

(01:12:52):
like it was a building that was built in the
sixties or the seventies. That very much ad that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Yes, yeah, and the Lambs and the Telly rift was
more for not for cash or anything like that. It
was more for mail delivery inside high rise building. So
that was that's why that was Belding and it would
come out through the wall through a fire fire doors
would open and the tellylypt system would pop out of

(01:13:19):
the wall, if you like. Quite quite fascinating.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
And that would have been a suit by emails, I presume,
would that be right? So that would have gone right
into the nineties. I presume.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Yes, it would have, Yes, yep, right through to then yep.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
And and David with the wire system you talk about
that was lampsun as well.

Speaker 6 (01:13:39):
Was that was that?

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
That was that was electric? That wasn't just spring operated
or was it spring operated?

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Spring operated? They pulled the cord, they'd reach up above them,
clip the docket in a little pouch, clip it to
the wire, and then pull the cord and it would
shoot across at great speed up to the cashier's office,
and then they'd deal with it there, put the change
in and then put it back up again, pulled the

(01:14:12):
cord and shoot it back to the cashier that it
came from, to give back to the customer of their change.
And because that someone had mentioned of on the emails,
I'm sorry on the text before that that was just
a security thing really in terms of that way you
only had one or two people handing the cash in
what can be quite a big store, or you'd have
more than two.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
And would that would that have wheels vertically on top
of the wire? Is that how they ran along the wire?

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
No, the wire moved so or not one hundred percent
certain about that, actually, Marcus. And just remember that was
a bit before my time.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
I can't understand it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
In terms of the ticklar. I was more involved in
the tube system.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Just a big was it just a big compressed guess
tank that would fire it all?

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
No? No, it was you see it today in internal
vacuum cleaning systems inside houses and buildings, you know when
you might plug your vacuum cleaner into a little hole
in the wall. Yes, that that was also installed by
in later years, installed by Lamps and Paragon which became
more Paragon, same technology. So you'd have a just like

(01:15:33):
a gigantic section. It's like a vacuum cleaner.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
So that wouldn't that would have Yeah, that makes that
makes sense. Okay, that makes perfect sense of to suck
it through. And they'd be quite tight in the tube,
wouldn't they.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Yes, they would. It had a sort of a tube
with say maybe three hundred million long, and when you
put it into the tube. It was quite a snug fit. Yes,
so that it would, you know, the vacuum would suck
it through the tube system.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Is there's still one working, and there's still a Cafeine
Christ that has a lens and system work that does
Spencer's food and it's quite successful.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Yes. Yes. And the other one they used to have,
of course, was the I'm just trying to think of
the name now, the dumb waiter.

Speaker 6 (01:16:18):
Oh, yep, you know that was also.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
I don't I don't think that that would have been
invented by by Lambsons, but they certainly installed them.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
When did this? When did they stop using it at
t Y? Was that during your time?

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
I don't know that they've ever stopped. I can't answer that.
It wouldn't surprise me if it's still operating.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Okay, I've got mates that work there. I'll find out, David.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Yeah, yeah, that was yeah, and just see if if
it's still if it still works, I think from memory,
I never saw it operate. I don't know whether it
went under the road or on a tube going across
the road.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
If you like, I'll report back, David. Look, thank you.
That was more than I could hopeful with your as
a call, I mean a city with a fondable knowledge
with the GMS. I appreciate that greatly. Thank you. Ten
nineteen Good evening, Daniel.

Speaker 18 (01:17:11):
Could I Matt, I'll tell you a friend, good Daniel,
you know trip down Memory Lane? Because she is I
used to watch it a wood On and it was
probably Born. It was Matte before born. I'm five years
from fifty. But there's some characters in me and where
she's very tame with people. But what he Harrison, he

(01:17:33):
was a Kno, there were a few in the phraser
crane he and then he went on to make his
own show. Remember, so he made his own show doctor phrases,
phrases Grant they were in me is tousey Ellen. She
was in there for w O. But then did Danton

(01:17:54):
headed out a given? I think her name was Hilly Long's.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
Yeah, yeah, because he was Whatdy Harrelson wasn't and originally
was he. There was another guy there that was the
seecond in command.

Speaker 18 (01:18:07):
Yeah, I think you come along later on.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
What was normOn?

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
What was Norm's job?

Speaker 5 (01:18:15):
What was normal?

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Mate?

Speaker 18 (01:18:17):
Next time? Well he was the post poster.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Yeah, but we never know what Norm did? Would we.

Speaker 18 (01:18:22):
No, no, never, you seed what his gob was. But
he always sitting in the bar and sit at the
mate the posty, and you know, and I remember that
it was over they had the fire and the bar
got burnt to christ and a lot well and they
all come and said, no, we're going to help the rebullet.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
Okay, we'll talk more about that tonight, Daniel. But thank
you for that, Susan. It's Marcus. Good evening, Oh, good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 24 (01:18:51):
I was prompted to call by the lady who grew
up in Newtown and was talking about Newtown and Wellington,
and she remembers the George and George store next door
to the Newtown School. Well I grew up in Colburnie,
which is just next suburb over after after Newtown, heading
towards the airport, and we had a George and George

(01:19:14):
in the little village of shops in Kilburnie. Oh, and
I remember exactly what you're talking about. I was fascinated
as a child watching these people take they'd unscrew a
little barrel it's like only about the size of your hand,
it seemed like an adult hand, and they'd unscrew it
off the wire above them and they'd clip the money

(01:19:37):
and the account whatever you'd bought, and clip it back
up and then pull the cord above them, which was
attached to the wire, I think, and it zoomed off
at great speed, and the office was upstairs. You could
see the office because it was semi open, and so
there was a whole network of wires all over the store.

(01:19:59):
And as a child, I was fascinated that there weren't
any crashes.

Speaker 5 (01:20:02):
On the line.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
I think you're conveying it, well, then, am I that's
my sentiments exactly? Chaosity Roof didn't that it was chaos.

Speaker 24 (01:20:11):
And then I think there was a bell or something
that went bing like this, and you know, you'd think, oh, yes,
another one's gone off or something like that, and then
you'd be waiting down there by the counter, waiting or
winds that come to come back. And if it was
a busy time, of course there'd be quite a delay.
I don't know how many people were working up in
the office, but it only looked like two or three

(01:20:34):
people up there. But this is a memory from when
I was about four, because I would walk up to
Kilburnie with my mother and we would go there to
buy our underwear, our blouses. Mother would buy the sewing, habdasherie,
cottons and things like that. They'd be women's clothes with

(01:20:56):
their men's clothes, boys clothes, hats and gloves and that
kind of thing. It was not two story, it was
just one level. Now that store, I don't know what
it became after. It was George and George I cannot
quite remember. But now it's a funeral home called part
of the Harbor City chain, and a very nice funeral

(01:21:20):
home now too. But the funny thing I find quite amusing.
It's right opposite a retirement home called Rita Angus, and
on beside it, this is in Colbernie, Wellington, there is
the Westpac Bank, a very big branch of the Westpac Bank.
So you're sitting, if you're sitting on that side of
the retirement home, you just look out the window to

(01:21:43):
the place that's going to take your money, the bank,
and then the other place you're going to deposit the
money into when you go is the funeral home. Of course,
behind it is a little chimney spire. You can see
within with somebody's cremated. You can see little puff of
smoke go up every so often, I think that's right

(01:22:05):
in opposite on the corner, because this goes to the
end of the street, and on the corner of the
next street there is the chapel. I think if I
went to that home, I'd rather be on the other
side looking out at some people's houses in a place
where I'm going next kind of thing. But I do

(01:22:25):
remember the store very very well. It has lovely window displays,
and I remembered going there to get my college uniform.
And I went to Wellington News Girls College and mother
made my uniform because the parents were given a pattern
if they were a sewer.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
Wow, that's gone, hasn't You couldn't get a patent anymore, could?
That's amazing to hear.

Speaker 24 (01:22:48):
Oh well, my mother was a dress maker dress designer,
so she could draft her own patterns. But the thing
was that you had to buy your raincoat there. And
I'm quite short, while my mother was short, didn't make
five foot and unfortunately never did I for eleven and
three w inches. And of course when I was I

(01:23:11):
was growing quite normally as a child, just slightly below
average maybe or average some years. And of course mother
looked at this raincoat wall Garbadine. We had to have
a great, big, heavy thing. I hated heavy clothes. I
just couldn't stand heavy clothes or heavy shoes. And the
regulation school shoes were great, heavy clumping things, and I

(01:23:35):
just hated getting into them. And so mother thinks, oh, well,
children do have a gross spurt in teenage life. So
she bought me an extra long raincoat.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
It should be hopeing than her spring up.

Speaker 19 (01:23:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:23:52):
My father was about five foot eleven and tall and broad.
He was from the Shetland, so good Viking and Scottish stock,
And of course she assumed I would, you know, grow
some more. My seat kept growing, kept going up as
shoe size, and I was ever hopeful as a teenager,
and I'd say to my mother, well, I'm definitely going

(01:24:13):
to grow because my body's getting the base a little
bit longer to deal with the upright, you know, the
shooting upright and going a few more inches. But no,
I never made the great achievement I wanted to make
was to be over five foot. But the sunny thing
is everybody thinks I'm about five foot three because I.

Speaker 15 (01:24:32):
Had all I do.

Speaker 24 (01:24:35):
Well, I don't think I'm sure you sound. I think
I'm me just a normal height.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
Now, hang, are we stuck wearing that John Gavitten coat
your whole time? Yes?

Speaker 24 (01:24:45):
And it was so heavy, and Mum put in a
hem probably about ten inches, you know, because she was
a dressmaker, she could take it up. So of course
it was a coat with this big hem, and I
just felt like I was sinking into the ground with
the clumping shoes and then this heavy raincoat. I just

(01:25:05):
hated it when it rained. And because when I was
a child at primary school, mother made me beautiful little
plastic raincoats. I had a white one with red and
gold spots on it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
You know.

Speaker 24 (01:25:16):
I was always dressed like a little model because she
would see fashions overseas and she could draft her own patterns.
So I went from that to the heavy raincoat and
the heavy walk And was she restrained?

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
Was she restrained with the Wellington Girl's uniform? Did she
follow the patent or did she put her own flourishes
into it?

Speaker 24 (01:25:37):
It was very meticulous and she and she made that fine.
I didn't have a great big hem on that because
she knew she could make it the next year if
I grew But of course I just had the same
uniform all the way through because I never woman will grew.

Speaker 10 (01:25:54):
But never mind.

Speaker 24 (01:25:55):
I've enjoyed life. But I do vaguely remember that when
we went to get the school uniform there the raincoat,
I vaguely remember. I don't know if my memory serves
me correctly, but I thought they had those big silver
embossed tools. I see that image. I know when I

(01:26:16):
went to Diic downtown in Wellington on Lampton Key, I
remember the big silver embossed tools there. But I think
the IC when we were children, I think that had
the wire system as well. So, but great memories of
walking up to Colbernie on a Friday night with Dad

(01:26:37):
or Mum and watching the Salvation Army playing their songs
and the ladies with their bonnets and the tambourines with
the colored ribbons on, and Dad would meet his Shetland mates.
Then we'd be all standing around, and I'd be standing
there listening to adult conversation. It was all good and

(01:26:58):
excuse me clean. And of course all these men had
a Shetland accent, so I was quite used to listening
to their bro their Shetland accents, and I could understand
what they were saying because my dad had the same accent.
And they were always very jolly men. And a lot
of the Shetlanders settled in Island Bay where the Italians settled,

(01:27:19):
and the Shetlanders and the Italians they fished together. And
I was told by an Italian lady that the Shetlanders
taught the Italians the long line of fishing system.

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
That was okay, I'm just going to cover with It's
been absolutely fascinating. What a pleasure has been to talk to.
I'm right on headlines, but wow, gosh, you've got some
great things to say. And thank you so very much
for that good evening, Zeta, welcome, Thank.

Speaker 19 (01:27:48):
You, Marcus. I'd like to talk about my first memory
of Smith and Coe great That was in nineteen thirty
two and I was four and my mother took me
to buy brown leather gloves for the winter. Quite a procedure.
I was on a high stool with a backing, my

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elbow was put on a velvet cushion. All the gloves
was kept in long narrow drawers the wedding gloves. The
gloves were going to the races and so on, and
each pair was wrapped in white tissue. So my brown
mather gloves were brought out and the lady stretched each

(01:28:32):
finger was some sort of stretch of thing, and first
of all the thumb was put on. Then each finger
was smoothed down lovingly by the sales person. And all
the time I was watching the money flying over my
head going up to the glass office where I could

(01:28:54):
see the girls on the next floor. But getting back
to the gloves, each finger, as I said, was smoothed
on and finally buttoned with a little glass brown button
at the wrist. And my mother bought the gloves. And
that is my first memory of Smith and che.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
Wow and it all. Did children have gloves in those days?
I suppose they did?

Speaker 19 (01:29:20):
Oh, of course, dressed up to go to town. And
then I'd like to talk about Gibson. Frank Gibson, the drummer, Yes,
thank you. I don't know if it was Frank or
Don Gibson who played at the Peter Pan in Ruhlm
Street in my heyday when we went almost every Saturday night,

(01:29:42):
Nancy Harry on piano, Don or Frank Gibson on drums,
and Tommy Andle on bass, and sometimes Mavis Rivers sang.
And those were great days.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Now, could you just remind me, because it's kind of
beyond my days. The peter Pan was where Rutland Street. Okay,
copy that, yep, and then it moves Rutland Street in
the city.

Speaker 19 (01:30:13):
Yeah, yeah, and this will be in the sixtieshow it's
very sad about Smith and Kewey.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
Yeah, and this is the fifties or the sixties for
the peter Pan. Oh, late forties, Okay, I understand, yep.

Speaker 19 (01:30:30):
Yes, I got married in fifty two, so we were
going to the peter Pan regularly before that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
I'm looking at the line up there and I think
that certainly was Frank Gibson that was there at that one.
But I'll do some more research on that, Zeta. But look,
that's a tremendous call, and thank you very much for that.
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 15 (01:30:49):
Julie.

Speaker 16 (01:30:50):
Hello, in a very good evening, and what an interesting
program is.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
It's dangerously interesting tonight.

Speaker 16 (01:30:58):
Well, extremely the previous previous lady so that she was
extremely interesting. But I was raised in Martin and we
had Martin, the farmers co op and Martin and they
had the wire system and I used to be fascinated

(01:31:18):
how they could put the little They were wooden, the
little containers were wooden. And they would put the money
in the containers and put the docket underneath and zips.
She pulled her like a handle and it was spring
loaded and shot up to the office. But I don't

(01:31:41):
know if they had to do it on the way back.
It just came down naturally, I think. But Martin Farmer's
co Op they had everything from men's clothes right out
to the back where you could buy fencing wire and
wheat for the chicks. And it was a really, really big,
fascinating strat I used to love going there and get

(01:32:03):
my gum boots. When I got my first pere gum
boots there, Dad took me in there and with all
these just all you could name it. It was there,
from hammers to saws to then out the front was
all the ladies where and and the men's where was
on the right hand side, I remember, and the ladies

(01:32:26):
where it was on the left hand side. And many
years later my friend Katie Island she worked in the
women's there. But it was a fascinating store and a
big store for a little place like Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
I guess Martin was a berg supply town for a
big cultural area. I guess a.

Speaker 16 (01:32:46):
Roundabout, Oh absolutely, And the Salvation Army always stood out
there on a Friday night, and the man would stand
out there and preach whether it was raining or snowing
or whatever. And they played their organs, sing their songs.
And at Christmas time they used to bring a big tree,

(01:33:07):
a big fir tree, pine tree, and stick it up
in the middle of the road that was strapped to
the post office and to the hotel on the corner
and story, and we in New Year's New Year's Eve,
everybody gathered around the tree to see the new year

(01:33:29):
and fabulous town. You're still there, yes, yes, you can
hear me.

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
He's still in Martin.

Speaker 16 (01:33:36):
You're still am I still in Martin? No, I live now.
I live across the river in the in the Range
River Valley.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
Okay, so you're not far from there.

Speaker 16 (01:33:48):
Yeah, no, I can see the station lights at night.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
I don't really know much about Martin. It's kind of
not a town. It's not a town you actually end
up and by excident, is it you did?

Speaker 16 (01:33:59):
It have to be an accident, but you know, if.

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
You're going Auckland to Wellington, you do drive that. It
appears to me. I mean it's on the railway line
is it, but not on the railway.

Speaker 16 (01:34:12):
The railway always went through it. You could catch the
train to go to Wellington or to Auckland, however, and
I can remember in those days trains were fascinating with
all the different kinds of carriages. Now they're boring as heck,
they're just all containers, yes.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
Oh they are. That's I don't know if you could
you would the train. Would the train stop at Martin anymore? Yes,
the person I don't.

Speaker 16 (01:34:41):
Think the passenger train does. But it was a huge,
huge junction yard for all those years ago. There was
cattle yards and sheep yards. And I've never heard of
the train actually stopping there at all, but it just
goes through. But if there is still some quite heavy

(01:35:03):
industry in Martin, but nowhere near.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
Life it used to be what would do you know
what the popular? Is the population static increasing? Or would
it be five thousand or two thousand?

Speaker 16 (01:35:14):
Oh, she would be I just bought a house there,
but it's probably about three and a half thousand, I think, yeah,
but fascinating little place in a very friendly little town.

Speaker 3 (01:35:26):
Can Set's friend Too far from the sea for me, Judy,
I reckond but lovely to talk to. Thank you. Also
talking about Norm from Cheers, Marcus Good Evening, Parmeston North
Hospital used a system like you were talking about, a
solinitude system where it put paperwork into descend towards approximately
twenty fifteen. Oh Dan, do you know what Norm did

(01:35:48):
for a living? Someone said Norm previously saved the United
States Coast Guard, though and earlyerpretad his state he had
been in the Army. He loses his job in an
accounting firm by defending Diane from his boss. After strugging
for a few years an independent accountant, eventually becomes a
house painter. His wife was Vera, but of course they

(01:36:09):
pretty much lived apart because she was never there or
she had never appeared on episode you heard his voice,
you heard her voice, Vera's voice once voiced by Norm's
real wife, but did also film the movie Never Say
Die in New Zealand. That's also true. But that's a

(01:36:31):
situation with Norm from Cheers. I don't know if he
had as sooner. I'll look at his Wikipedia page now, people,
Norm Peterson, yes, a fictional character.

Speaker 23 (01:36:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
I for his typecast. I don't know if he did
much work after that. Quite good Norm's entrance into the
bar as a running gag on Cheers, typically beginning with
a greeting by Norm, usually afternoon or evening. Everybody. This
is followed by the car the bar crowd getting his name,
except Diane, who would allowed them follow them with a

(01:37:12):
more refined Norman. Afterwards, someone usually Sam, Coach or Woody,
will ask how Norman is doing and what he'd like
to order. Norman's respond with what he remarked frequently about
his life In Orders to Bear. Normans also greeted it
on the customary Norms shout at other locations, looking a
bowling Alley, the Hungry Heifer, Gary's, Old Town teven. When

(01:37:35):
Sam asks why people at Gary's know him by the name,
Norm replies that he goes there on Christmas when cheese
is closed. A running gag in the series is following
commercial for the bartender to ask Norm if he wants
the other bear. Normal replies one quick one, after which
he inevitably stays a bit longer. Oh, it's it's a

(01:37:59):
good Wikipedia page. That one. There we go. Norm's wife
is offer mentioned, but her face is never seen. When
she has finally showed her faces covered in a pie
thrown by Diane, and the actress is uncredited. The only
time she has seen viewers can see only her legs,
and one time her waving from a car when she

(01:38:19):
drives past chairs on her fifteenth winning anniversary. Vera is
the butt of many of Norman's jokes, but on many
occasions Normous professed secretly an undying love for his wife
or defended her honor. He also refused to cheat on
her in the episode Normal's Book Ordered, when a female
IRIS agent was prepared to overlook his text evasion. If

(01:38:39):
he did, there we go. I don't know what he
did after that, by the way, was on sound elsewhere,
but didn't do much, I don't think, but did appear
in the movie Never Say Die. Thing was called, by

(01:39:00):
the way the cultural reference. In the Simpsons episode Flaming Mo's,
Barney Gamble walks into the news success from Popular Mos
to be greeted with a friendly cry of Barney, which
chatirizes Norm's entrance. When a bartender similar to Woody asks
him how he is doing, he boops in response, we
are talking about Smith and Coey's and also Norm from chairs.

(01:39:24):
Smith and Curry's is no longer a thing. Well, I mean,
they've said today that they that's it, they're closing that down.
So that's one of the things we are talking about.
But mainly we're talking about the communication system in the
department stores with the pneumatic pipes and the aerial railways,
which is kind of kind of remarkable and I'm not

(01:39:47):
quite sure what happened that everyone got rid of them.
There are ways to actually oversee staff and pilfering. But anyway,
when the last one is still be running in New
Zealand was someone probably will know. That's what we are
talking about tonight. Keep those texts and coming through your
contributions if there's been some sensational calls tonight, So thanks

(01:40:10):
for everyone. There's been discussion about Frank Gibson Junior who
has died today, and I will read what someone has
sent through to me from Audio Culture, which is the
very good music Facebook page and website. It'll just take
me a short time. No name in New Zealand is

(01:40:31):
more synonymous with drumming than Frank Gibson. Frank Senior was
one of our great band leaders and drumm edicatas, and
from his earliest years Frank Junior followed in his footsteps.
Today we lost Frank Gibson Junior, which leaves a huge
hole in our music community. One of the great images
of our musical culture is nine year old Frank on
stage at Auckland Town Hall in nineteen fifty four pounding

(01:40:54):
out a rhythm with his dad. It's posted here. He
was so proud of that. Frank was larger than live.
Generations of drummers were taught and inspired by both father
and son. It's hard to overstate the loss to us
all as Frank Junior was and is both loved and respected.

(01:41:14):
Our thoughts are with his family and so many friends.
Rest well, Frank, you were one of a kind. He's
a good text. Marcus. I know you have some flexibility
with topics on a Friday, but I won't be able
to listen Friday night this week. Do you think MH
three seventy, John Bono Ramsey, he was only at Keller
and medline Ken will ever be sold? Love the show mate, Marcus.

(01:41:36):
Remember the Wellington years ago and onedon years ago. Cocolian
stains ds and James Smith had lamps and tube systems.
Also ce one Cafe christ Church now olivers hamburgers By
lamps and tube system. That's what we have talked about
that it's very good too. Kids love it. Marcus. I
remember a book transport system when the National Library of

(01:41:56):
New Zealand opening ninetety seven. Suitcases were on tracks, on
ceilings and up walls around the building. But I can't
remember anything about it. Can't for anything about it. Hey,
list is timoth they remember it? Or am I going? Man?
This is the National Library of New Zealand. I worked
at Valentine's in the mid sixties and the sanctioned department
of the office, the countisate was received by the kasher

(01:42:17):
and forwarded to me to approve that the buy had
an accountant on a file system. The docket was stamped
to prove returned via the cashier again to the department
received from initially wouldn't trust Nikola wills not to means
test the pensioners. The contrition the contribution of finances from
the boomers will be able to help us all plus

(01:42:38):
can pay for the rising costs. Everyone should have to pay.
Countdown New Brighton still post COVID had a vacuum tube
that sent the till float end of the day report
up to the office. Not sure if it's still there
since the refurbishment. That's from Zane Marcus, HJJ Smith and
Verkargill had the system in every department Magic to watch

(01:42:59):
what year would have it ended? Maggie, Maggie Marcus, thank
you for your show every night. My mother had an accountant,
George and George and Winnington and shop there regularly for
numerous things. We kids loved watching the cannisters shoot along
the wire. It's all very good now called the suction system.
Marcus went to farmers in Bayfair Mountain Monganui today, the

(01:43:21):
closest to the old department stores. Feber Service walked out
with lipstick and lipliner one forty dollars. Shouted to the
woman that Serby wasn't intending to spend that much, but
his service inspired me. Susie Marcus, Google aircom dot com.
Are you they still specialize in EU medic tube delivery.
I worked for PC common Beck in the seventies. We
had the canisters and chew powered by air. We sent

(01:43:42):
job cards for the money of the office and the
days returned the change with the seats wong and we
had London Town d C Mcgruers and Mackenzie's Harry.

Speaker 5 (01:43:51):
Hello, Hello there, Marcus. How are you doing good?

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
Thanks Harry, Oh it's good.

Speaker 5 (01:43:57):
This in college and in Cunningham's Farmers the North was
mentioned before. Yes, sisters always joined the radio show. I
went to work for Farmers who took over the Collinson
in Cunningham's building and we renovate. They renovated the building
and inside all the under all the tiles, the roof tiles,

(01:44:19):
ceiling tiles and so on. There was a full vacuum
tube system up to the office that they had in
the sixties. There was also there was also traces of
much earlier which looked like it might have been a
cable system that went through the building as well to

(01:44:39):
the cash office. But definitely it had a vacuum system.

Speaker 3 (01:44:45):
They just shut it off with the fall ceiling. Today.

Speaker 5 (01:44:49):
Yeah, they shut it all off with the It was
all covered over with the ceiling. And then Farmers in
nineteen eighty seven eighty eight renovated the building and they
tore opened and of course they couldn't do anything. Immediately,
the guy stuck his head up under the tois. He
came back down. He said, we won't be working this today.

(01:45:13):
It was all asbestos. It was sprayed on there and
so they had to shut there. We had to work
in the conditions where they were dealing with the isbest
or in one half of the store. Well we worked
and sold stuff on the other half. I was fairly
new to the company at the time. But the history

(01:45:34):
that send that was in the Collinson and Cunningham building
was unbelievable history. And it had tracks all the way
back to the early nineteen hundreds. And the fantastic Christmas
cave that they had down underneath the building was Oh,
it was just absolute magic. I watched people for eighteen

(01:45:55):
years and go down there, old people come out in
tears after taking their grandchildren and great grandchildren down. Absolutely amazing.
That can all be found at the Tea to Manawan
Museum now, but it's all walked away. They bring it
out in October or November for Christmas.

Speaker 4 (01:46:15):
But it was a.

Speaker 3 (01:46:17):
Fabulous They've got the grotto, have they.

Speaker 5 (01:46:21):
Yeah, they've got part of They've got large parts of
the grotto that they that they're rescued quite a bit
of and they they set things up for Christmas at
to Manua, And from what I understand, I haven't seen it.
I've only seen I got to look in the door
where they had an old stored about four years ago.

(01:46:43):
But I haven't actually seen it because I live up
in New Plymouth now. But I'm definitely going down there
this Christmas, and I'm definitely going to go and set
on the wee roundabout?

Speaker 3 (01:46:53):
Think definitely what's the roundabout?

Speaker 6 (01:46:57):
The little there's a.

Speaker 5 (01:46:59):
Little round about, a pedal round about that they have
and oh it's a it's a very very old one,
very mcare.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
Is that from the is that from the department store?

Speaker 5 (01:47:10):
That's from the department store cave Christmas cave they had.
They had a train set down there. They had area
planes flying across.

Speaker 3 (01:47:19):
That's a good thing. They've kept that. That's great they've kep. Yeah,
tell me what happened? Did the tube system go to
the dump?

Speaker 5 (01:47:28):
I think it did, Yeah, I think it did. I
think it just stripped it out.

Speaker 3 (01:47:32):
It's pretty hard. It's useless for anyone, really, is it?
Anis you're kind of a.

Speaker 5 (01:47:38):
Unless you know what, unless you know how to operate it?

Speaker 3 (01:47:40):
Yet, well, I kind of me, any, I kind of
meagine any post any uses fraud Apart the restaurant that
serves burgers and kids bills and it works quite well. Actually, yeah, christ.

Speaker 5 (01:47:55):
Yeah, I'll tell you now that one of the other
things that I know is all the electronic stuff we
do know f pos and credit card and everything. It's
the electronic version of it. Exactly no cash handling at all.
It's just exactly the same thing, except for its electronic
from your account to their account. It's just the same

(01:48:17):
thing done electronically.

Speaker 3 (01:48:19):
It's the only place where those tubes seem to have
contemporary use, I think is in hospitals when you've got
to see prescriptions and blood tests and samples to the
labs and stuff. And I think it works quite well there.

Speaker 5 (01:48:35):
That would work quite well. Yeah, but they stood there.
I think you'll find that they've got order these running
backwards and forwards much leason of fit. But some of those,
many of them.

Speaker 3 (01:48:46):
Harry, some of those hospitals do have the cash that
tube system. So but look, nice to talk to you.
Thank you, good evening, Dion. It to Marcus.

Speaker 14 (01:48:53):
Welcome, Oh, thank you Marcus. And look, I've got to
apologize I have not been able to listen for the
last three hour because I've had phone calls to listen
to basically even busy. Yeah, you've got to care for
people sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
But I did.

Speaker 14 (01:49:11):
Towards the end of my time with you. Here Mash
being mentioned as as a TV show from the US,
and I rate that is number one. Ever, is a
comedy I wanted to mention as a comedy, Yes, also
I mean across the board, but I think the comedy

(01:49:32):
the comedic writing I think was was wonderful, but also
touched other areas of of of writing that were pretty clever.
But I thought of four others that kind of go
across the board. One of them is Mork and Mindy yep,

(01:49:57):
Happy Days yep, until the jumping of the Shark. Of course,
The Simpsons. I'm not sure if that's been mentioned or not.
Like I said, I haven't heard, but Simpsons I think
changed the way that a lot of things have been
looked at and also have seen what's going to come
in the future. And one of my favorite most recent ones,

(01:50:21):
which is kind of getting a bit aged, is Brooklyn
nine nine.

Speaker 3 (01:50:26):
Yeah, that's not one of them. That's not one I
have seen. I would dispute Morganman there. I've always found
Robin Williams in that role quite annoying, but that's just
my opinion. Okay, but what's Brooklyn nine nine very funny?

Speaker 14 (01:50:39):
Yes, it's it's very funny, but it's also very clever.
It's not just funny. The thing I like about humor
is if it's if it's clever, it adds to it.
So the Simpsons are clever. Brooklyn nine line is very clever.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
Until what the synopsis of Brooklyn nine nine.

Speaker 14 (01:51:05):
It is about a New York PD Police Department team
of mainly detectives, but other people as well, peripheral people,
not many of them. It's also, like you spoke about
chairs being centered in one place, it's kind of centered
in one place.

Speaker 11 (01:51:27):
It has.

Speaker 5 (01:51:29):
A kind of.

Speaker 6 (01:51:30):
Diverse cast, and.

Speaker 14 (01:51:34):
It just looks at the way that people treat people.
I guess sometimes a bit differently. But the comedic values
are in the in the text and also the storylines
which continue through and it runs through I think eight
or nine series. I think eight series, and it's just

(01:51:58):
it's very clever.

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
Was it was it screened Free to Wear in New
Zealand or was it screened No.

Speaker 14 (01:52:03):
It's on it's on TV one. In said, well, what
if it's called one plus? I think pretty.

Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
It's not what I've had a lot of people talk about,
but doesn't mean I'm not going to give it a go.

Speaker 14 (01:52:20):
I would recommend giving it a crack for maybe a
couple of shows, and if you don't like it, walk away.

Speaker 3 (01:52:29):
Is it binge watching.

Speaker 1 (01:52:32):
It is?

Speaker 14 (01:52:33):
I can sit there And I actually watched the entire
series over a period of I think three days A
few months ago. I did the same thing with Matsh
as well.

Speaker 3 (01:52:45):
So Mesh, had you seen Mesh before I saw.

Speaker 14 (01:52:49):
Mash when I was I don't know what I would
have been at about eight or nine or ten or something.
And then I watched it again periodically I think in
the UK when i'd been in my twenties, and then
I binge watched the whole thing in one go with
somebody and we watched the whole thing in about five

(01:53:10):
days or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:53:11):
Well, it still steps up, absolutely.

Speaker 14 (01:53:15):
It is the best show ever written ever. It's top, top,
top notch. And as you said when I heard you
saying about there, there's no last in that final show.
There are a couple of lasts, but the truth of
what they're actually pointing out it's pretty amazing, really.

Speaker 3 (01:53:38):
Nice to hear from you, Dean. Thank you so much
for that one whole night. Haven't mentioned Butter. No calls
about Butter, but gosh, what great publicity for Costco. How
good's that? I think the crossover from Happy Days to
Walk and Minnie's a side of the brilliant he bought. Yeah,

(01:54:00):
it didn't last long though Mork and Mindy did it.
I thought they sort too much. It was too much
showcasing him. I'll tell you what's an underrated American sitcom? Alf,
If you want that kind of extraterrestrial thing, that was

(01:54:20):
a much funny. He was good. Alf. He only went
for four seasons. That should tell you something. That's my
take on it. Steady decline, people stopped watching it never
rated if that was never successful, and they always try

(01:54:42):
to change it to make it better. I'm talking about
Mark and Mindy. In the second season, the show's main
focus was no longer on Mark's slapstick attempts with justin
Knew World he was in, but on the relationship between
Mark and Mindy on a romantic level. Some of the
focus was on work, trying to find a steady job.
Because the erupt changes to the show in times not
ratings slipped dramatically, dropping to twenty seventh the show has

(01:55:05):
quickly moved back to with the previous time starting. Efforts
were made to return it to the court of the series. However,
rating did not recover. There you going to be listened
from that because there was also a Lavoon and Shody,
which was also a spinoff. I think of Happy Days,
Good evening, Doug.

Speaker 23 (01:55:23):
This is Marcus Welcome, Okay, matey's work years ago when
I was a young fellow and John edmund on Tay
Street and we had the old vacuum vacuum system and.

Speaker 4 (01:55:40):
Yeah, it used to work at a real treat. Actually,
it was quite novelty to start up doing that with
your first cover shop assistant.

Speaker 3 (01:55:47):
What was what was so Tay Street? We're talking in
the cargol are we.

Speaker 4 (01:55:52):
Yeah, John Edmondson on Tay Street just a long oppositeation
days there. Yeah, it was a big hardware shop. Used
to sell everything there and and we used to send
them up to the used to put them in the
in the put your money in the in the docket

(01:56:12):
and the canister and close it up and then send
it down the street. And then you would go up
to the top, up to the ladies up the top
and they'd sort out all the change and send it
back down to you.

Speaker 3 (01:56:23):
What shop is that now, Doug, I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (01:56:28):
There was the sports shop next door to there for
a while. There's the ant Birds next door, and yeah,
it was white opposite the arcade. I'm not sure what
that arcade is now, going right through from Tay Street
through to s Street. It was right opposite that, okay, yeah, yeah,

(01:56:51):
so and one of them not one, well last young
fellows have a bit of fun and used to be
able to grab a little lever on the box and
if one of the girls was a bit slow up there,
you'd give this thing a bloody rattle. And they made
a hell of a dorn up there in their office
and let you just stir them up at it and
then mix these girls be coming down and giving you

(01:57:14):
a rack up and there's just a lot of tunb. Yeah,
that's what's what. And it was great system. It was
about eight machines.

Speaker 3 (01:57:25):
It was where it was where H and J Sports
was for a while, wasn't It was a big shot there.
I remember exactly where it was. Okay, had that high setting.
It looked like there'd be something up there. Never realized
that was there.

Speaker 4 (01:57:36):
Yeah, okay, yeah, you just listening to your show and
I was like, when I'm here listening to your shows
and yeah, I remember meeting New years ago. You interviewed
Barry Crump from my hotel and Headlock.

Speaker 3 (01:57:51):
Oh yeah, that's right. What was it a hotel called.

Speaker 2 (01:57:55):
It was?

Speaker 4 (01:57:56):
Well, it was the Florer soon at that time.

Speaker 3 (01:58:00):
Over the over the water or something, was it?

Speaker 4 (01:58:02):
Yeah, just right in the middle of right in the
middle of Headlock.

Speaker 3 (01:58:06):
Yeah, so were you south were so where you were
south Ender there that had become a publican and Havelock.

Speaker 2 (01:58:11):
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (01:58:12):
That's that was the story. Yes, yep, yeah, around of that.

Speaker 3 (01:58:19):
I don't know why, because crub wasn't living in Heavlock,
was he? I think we drive over from Nelson Will didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:58:27):
He lived in Rock for oh probably probably six years
and more.

Speaker 3 (01:58:34):
And I subsequently met her that that wife he was
with several times after that too, that she was he
was with at that time too.

Speaker 4 (01:58:40):
So yeah, they shifted up. They shifted up to the
Hawk's Bay somewhere from Headlock.

Speaker 6 (01:58:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:58:46):
So why did you end up there in Havelock?

Speaker 4 (01:58:50):
Well, basically had a farm and Luis farm in Southland
and they have a Fairfax there and and yeah, just
sold that up and and be a publican and a
little poor poor the beer in my life before that,
So it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:59:07):
Hell did you last?

Speaker 4 (01:59:10):
Probably we built up. We hit motels here as well,
so yeah, about nine years in total.

Speaker 3 (01:59:17):
That's a good stunt. I don't have a pub for
that long. Yeah, it's always every time upstayed there, it
always seems to be quite a lovey little town. I
quite like it.

Speaker 4 (01:59:27):
Yeah, yeah it is. Yeah, it's it's going a lot
of the Marina's quite big there now.

Speaker 2 (01:59:32):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:59:33):
And getting back to your shows, you know, I've never
routeen on American comedy. Always like the British comedy. I
don't know why, but the one American show I really
enjoyed was Texting. Yeah that was a real dry right.

Speaker 3 (01:59:52):
Yeah. It had a great script, didn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:59:56):
I really enjoyed that.

Speaker 3 (01:59:57):
It was so fantastic, fantastic characters here. You're quite right.

Speaker 1 (02:00:02):
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