We can't all become plumbers (27 August 2025)

Is AI coming for Marcus' job? Not likely. But it is being leveraged more and more.

Also Costco isn't really going to fix our supermarket duopoly issue, and it's World Banana Day!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Gee, greetings people, Well goodness, let me just get a
little myself anchored and focused. How are you going anyway?
So yeah, slightly late. I see what happened today. I'm
slightly late for work, and for that I kind of apologize.
And it's not a major thing I had to go

(00:33):
and see. I didn't have to go. I chose to
go and see my child's performance at intermediate school. They're
in a sort of a musical production, so I've been
at that. But I had a contingency. I'd already recorded
the first half hour of the show, so I could
just come in here at twenty past eight and proceed
with the show. But when it finished at about two minutes

(00:54):
to eight, I thought i'd make it here. So I
had about a minute more of the song, so I
thought I'd much rather do the song live than play
a pre recorded version, which probably would have sounded a
bit stilted. So any I am here, and there's a
music for you. So that's where we don't play the
full bait because it gets a bit too full on.
So anyway, greetings and welcome markets hed on Midnight's that
Tim beverage along from twelve o'clock. I hope you're good.

(01:16):
It is the Wednesday Free for All, which like the
Friday Free for All, but not quite as free, So
feel free to get involved. You've got to be part
of the show. The number is eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty and nine to nine two to texta you
do you want to come through? I thought, actually tonight
we're going to be able to talk about the great
plan for the monopoly bust of the supermarkets that Nicola

(01:40):
Willison announced today. But it appears to be nothing, and
I would suppose that probably there is going to be nothing,
certainly before the election that will show that the supermarkets
have been busted. So that wasn't the conversation starter I
thought it would have been. All it means, I think
is the consent process for to set up a supermarket

(02:01):
has gone from eighteen months to twelve months, so I
don't think it's going to be cheaper but or anything soon.
And also too, you've got to persuade the third operator
to come here. And we're a small market, we're not Australia,
and I don't necessarily know whether the Aldi's or the
Icelands or those other big operators would come if that
would be enough incentive to attract them. What I thought

(02:24):
though was interesting is they reckon that one of the
things that will change and mean that supermarket goods are
cheaper would be the introduction of a second costco. I've
never been to Costco. I've come close, and I've tried,
but these things people love. They're a game changer, and
it's a you know, I mean even the States, I
think probably there was some fact that I think two

(02:49):
thirds of all cashew nuts are sold through Costco, but
they are major players. So I think that's probably the
most interesting thing that we can discuss to begin tonight
is where you think the second costco should go and
how much, Because I mean, certainly there should be one,
probably in the Lower South at the Lower North Island,
and certainly some are around christ Church or Rolliston. I
think that would be a major change. And I think

(03:10):
if we can get four or five cost cos within
New Zealand, then I think we'd really have some impact
in groceries. I don't necessarily know the model some of
your researched. I don't know how many how big a
population you need to support a Costco. But all I've
heard is that the one in west Auckland is incredibly busy,
so it's probably not a bad thing to do have

(03:31):
them right around. And I don't know what we can
do to make Costco do that. I don't know how
much of the dramas of Costco is them not being
able to get the consent to build the places, or
it's just to wait and see and their way to
see how it goes before they start the other one.
We've got some comments about Costco and where they need
more stores, and you use Italan where those stores would go.

(03:52):
Feel free and comment on that. The number is eight
hundred eighty ten eighty and nine nine two Detective. There
is other stuff you want to mention good, feel free
to come through and talk about that. I was sad
to see that the Dunheath Custard Square Company's gone to
liquidation because that was a company.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
They're huge.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
People loved that they were the one from pleasant Point
that took over the world. This was seemingly they're unstoppable.
I don't know the full details, don't There was some
illness there as well, but yeah, that's just the story
that's come through today. People love them, the famous custard squares,
so that's what's happened. It's been placed in liquidation. So

(04:34):
I don't know if the custed squares were sold in Costco.
Maybe they were, but yeah, that's the thing I'd like
to start discussion with tonight where the second Costco should go.
But I think we probably need four or five. I
think there'd be a fantastic thing, so much good will
for them. People just love it. And then if you
had one sort of down there, the Lower and Northigh
and then people travel up from New Plymouth and stuff. Anyway,

(04:56):
do you get in touch Marcus till midnight? Eight hundred
eighty ten eighty, do get in touch? Oh my god, Marcus,
you finally did it. I think talking about the whole
song Marcus said to hear about Dunheath Desserts going to
liquidation as the dessert, especially the custard squares, were always
so delicious. Sal good eving, Marcus must be the full moon.

(05:16):
I was late to work today. My manager, Tricky Ricky
was not Presst Blake from Nelson Blake from Nelson Pine,
Best crew, very good. Keep your texts coming through as
I say, oh, eight h and eighty talking costco where
they should go. The other story I want to chuck
into the mix, and we'll start with two topics. Maybe,
by the way, something special happening at eight thirty tonight

(05:38):
as well. I can just allude you to that. But
the other thing I can put into the mix is
the perenial discussion, which is AI artificial intelligence. There is
a survey survey says a survey in the UK says
that half the people think that their jobs will be
made obsolete by artificial intelligence. I just wonder how you

(06:04):
feel about your job now they've had a couple of
years to get used to artificial intelligence or chat, GPT,
whatever you want to do it. And it seems to
me that probably we are now realizing it can do
a lot more things than we originally thought it could do.
When it was first announced, I just and it was

(06:24):
going to take over jobs. I thought, well, talkback's never
going to be taken over. It's not going to be
a thing. But having thought about it and having seen
the breadth of what artificial intelligence can do, I think
probably there's very few jobs that couldn't take over. And
I'm thinking in my line of work. I mean, Jeeps

(06:46):
Creeper is ten years time. I think with talkback you
probably start with the callers. They could be computer generated.
They still have a good opinions and variety of opinions
and their own personalities. I mean you could do that
for five years that you probably replace the hosts. And
whether I guess the thing about with chat or with

(07:07):
about AI is would people know? And I reckon if
you had the voice right when you look how far
it's come, or two or three years and ten years time,
probably you could chuck a talkback host on that was
a computer and you wouldn't tell the audience and no

(07:30):
one would know. You'd start with your callers and then
you get the host and it could be incredibly entertaining. Well,
I'm sure that chat that AIS advanced so much they're
working on a humor. The humor has become quite good.
You chuck that in there. As long as you'd have
a consistency of the host and they've sort of said
similar things or kind of had a unique personality. I

(07:53):
reckon it wouldn't be a problem. I don't nderstand that's
a good or a bad thing. I think it's just
probably progress. So I'm talking about the jobs that you
do that you think that artificial intelligence will take over.
And I'm curious though how far they'll go. You might think, oh,
I'm a farmer. They couldn't take that over. They could
do most things a farm are good. They could do

(08:14):
things a public and good. They could do anything. But yes,
the serve in the UK s is half of UK
adults worry that a AI will take or alter their job.
So I'm wondering, and I'm wondering if you've already thought
that your job's going to get taken over, so you've
come out of that career and doing into something else,

(08:35):
be pretty tormenting for kids at school. Children at school
wanted to know which career to go into, not knowing
if it's going to be around or any moment. But
things like accountancy, law, medicine. I mean most of those
things are about information and about algorithms and about process,

(08:58):
regular process with fixed rules to apply process. That's stuff
that AI is fantastic at. So yeah, put that out
there anyway, Our big hits up to all the people.
I thought that that thought I played the extended version
of power love for Taylor Swift it's pretty embarrassing that

(09:18):
Luxon was getting involved with that asking to have a
wedding here. I couldn't believe that. That's cringey. Twenty one
past eight day and ats Marcus, good.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
Evening, Good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
How are you good?

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Thank you, Dane.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
I was just wanted to talk to you about AI.
I had a phone call today. I've actually called my
bank about it. But I've actually had a phone call
today from AI system ask if China scamed me out
of money. So I called my bank about it, and
when a person who or who was controlling it or
whatever it was, sive me a text message and with

(09:53):
my with their text message, they couldn't stone my name properly,
so I knew straight away it was there's got to
be a spam because the bank's got more details, that's
got everything clear as day, and all my name and everything.
So I don't understand how I was getting that fast
and technology already to start making spam calls.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
So was it so that it was your cell phone?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yep?

Speaker 5 (10:16):
And it rang, yeah, and it came because of my
I've got an app on my phone which you can
get that recognizes private numbers and it came up with
a private like a private number, but it also came
up with whishpack and so I answered it thinking it
was my bank and no, it was an AI system.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
So was the robot.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
That was a robot and it literally sounded like a human,
but I caught it off guard. I asked you a
certain question and it could reply. So yeah, that's when
I hung up their hung up the phone caller and
wrung my band was the key?

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Was the key? We kind of an accent.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
No, it was American, sort of slight, I would have
to say Irish in my opinion, it was quite a Yeah,
it was a depitely a foreign accident, but it wasn't
my Indian or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
How did the scam work?

Speaker 5 (11:15):
So it wrong me and said, oh, hi, high date,
I'm just wanting to know that, would you like to
apply for a personal loan today? If so, can you
please put it your what are your your IPOs card
details and on the system now, and automatically gave red
arm and red arms fouled my head and yeah, so

(11:37):
I was like, no, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, it's not a very it's not a very small
sophisticated scam sounds quite obvious, doesn't it.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
It does, and especially but what called me off guard
was it came up with my bank's number. So that's
why I was like, it's been unusual.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
So when you said it came up with their number
and your bank's number, it come up with two numbers.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
I came up with my WISPAC because I'm in Hamilton,
so I came up with oh seven and yeah, so,
and it came up with the landline details. I rung
the landline detail back and it actually went straight to
wish Back Bank itself.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Okay I don't fully understand that, so but yeah, okay,
what did the banks say? Did the bank say it
was common, the common scam that's going around.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
No, they'd never heard of it until I had one
other person a couple of days ago ring up and
say something about it. But by being the second person,
I don't think they really leaves me in all of you.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Okay, it's getting complicated, Dane, Thanks so much for that.
Twenty four past day. Keep those texts coming through here
on midnight. Welcome, Oh wait one hundred and eighty ten eighty, Yeah,
get in touch. Oh wait, one hundred and eighty Today notebook.

(13:02):
LM provides podcasts that are totally AI generated. I put
my master's thesis in there, and the two AI characters
discussed it for thirty minutes. You wouldn't know it was AI.
Brilliant program. Yeah, it's come a long way. It's come.
I think it's moving quicker than we think. Lisa Marcus, welcome,
Hi Marcus.

Speaker 7 (13:23):
Yeah, I'm just thinking thinking about what you suggested about
AI hosts or court and or callers. I just can't
imagine it. I mean, I'm just lacking an imagination.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
But well, they'd be a lot they'd be a lot
better informed. They know everything, they know everything.

Speaker 7 (13:44):
Yeah, but I'm a long time listener and I don't
call in much. But what I really enjoy about talkback
is the personalities.

Speaker 8 (13:52):
I think.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
I think you could, I think the way AI is
going so quickly, there would be different personalities. They could say,
make this person nervous or reticent or smug or self
satisfied or misinformed, and you could dial that up and
the person could be that.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
It doesn't make sense to me because because this one
or the other, I don't know. I mean, I think
humans are much more nuanced than that, A little bit
of that, but if.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
We see how far it's come, and then we could
pull that. But if you could pull that nuance into it,
say we want a guy that's forgetful, slightly absent minded,
done this, done that, and you could you could dial
in all the different components and there could be you
could quite easily generate a million different personalities and have

(14:44):
them more calling in.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
But I just feel like a personality is not just
nervous or this or that, ypothetic or whatever. There's all that,
and then there's so many more layers of their experience
in life. How old are they, how much experience they've
had in one thing or another. It's so a nuanced

(15:08):
there's so many factors that creates a person.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
But I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised that you can
type and create someone and you know, you could create
some sort of life changing episode they've had or make it.
You know. I just yeah, look, I don't it's just
fun to think about. I don't necessarily know that it's
going to be a thing, but I could see if
it became a thing. I wouldn't be surprised by it.

Speaker 7 (15:30):
Yeah, because I mean, I mean, I really enjoy many hosts,
you in particular, and Heather is great, and it's because
you've all got really different experiences in life and just
really different personalities and I love that.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
But you haven't heard any computer hosts yet, have you.

Speaker 7 (15:53):
No, I haven't, true, but I just can't imagine how
you could recreate it. It just seems seems so so
oh what's the word? Just so individually?

Speaker 9 (16:07):
You know?

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, look, and I'm just thinking about it. And probably
two years ago, as I said, I would have thought
there'd be no chance. But now you know, I've seen
even when I've when I've looked and things, when I've
asked AI questions and the answers have become so much better.
They seem to be progressing and learning. They've got quite
complicated and nuanced answers. So you know you check voice
into that and oh yes, well no, I guess no

(16:38):
one wants it. But if it provides something that's interesting,
Entertainment's entertainment, isn't it. If you're entertained, you're not going
to care. Who's going to do it?

Speaker 10 (16:47):
I suppose, But.

Speaker 7 (16:50):
I mean I already hate all the apps that I
keep being told I have to use.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, yeah, And when I'm not when I'm not at that,
when I'm not at work. When I'm not at work,
I've got no involvement with AI at all. I don't.
It's not for me. But if you looking for information
in a hurry, it is quite good with what it
comes up with.

Speaker 7 (17:10):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 8 (17:12):
Fa What if what.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
If I was going to say to you, Lisa that
one of our hosts is already a robot?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Go?

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Really, who with which one?

Speaker 11 (17:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Exactly, Well, they're not to my knowledge, although I live
in a different city. But yeah, that's my understanding. Get
in touch. Feel free to give us a call. Oh good,
we're back on scams. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
nine to nine two de text looking forward to your calls,
Halpas Date, Tony Dough headlines. Please thank you, Marcus, I
am well, I don't think that sound like that necessary thing?

(17:46):
Isn't it sound just like us text? AI will create
movies or TV shows just for you now, based on
what you like. Everyone want to have their own personal
radio station just for them, no one else, fake callers,
just that they will like no one radio station will
be the same. Marcus, I doesn't take this school takes

(18:07):
school teachers. Over the future, there will be no need
for classrooms. Yeah, I don't disagree with that necessarily, Marcus,
don't need AI. This isn't a positive step in evolution
for humanity, completely opposite guaranteed. Well, no one needs it,
that's right. But the way capitalism works, if money can
be made from it, then we can't stop it. If

(18:30):
our bosses decide that that's what they want to do,
they want to go into AI talk hosts, I don't
need to pay them they need You don't need to
pay the callers anyway. The callers are free. Maybe they'll
keep the callers, but free hosts. I mean, that's why.
What do you think I'm going on about. It's a
I do it for nothing with my what do I
call my job, Dan? What do I call it abroad?

(18:52):
A hobby? Broadcast of it? Yeah, I mean, of course
they do it. Of course they do it. And a heartbeat,
I think it's probably ten years away. But the hosts
would be better informed, and the callers would be better
informed because literally they would know everything, and if they argued,

(19:13):
they'd be arguing over nuances, I suppose. But anyway, Marcus Bestias,
I've heard this week when are you leaving giving your
boss the ideas of saving money? Mike Hosking is aro,
but it has to be no one would get up
that early. Three and sixty five years. A day's a year, Marcus.

(19:38):
I think the big limit on AAR will be how
much energy it takes. It requires a huge amount. The
costs will escalate. It's crazy how much energy it needs.
It's crazy. Between that and bitcoin heavy birthday, Jennifer ash
you little ripper, loving the show each night while I'm working.
I'm a draftsman and lucky already fifty eight years old,

(19:59):
but I see AI coming to my line of work. Currently,
I'm three D modeling, but imationed before too long, it'll
move on from me here cheers Marcel and Nelson. He said,
not Jennifer USIA's birthday. I was just late. I was late.
I wasn't late and being tardy. I'd already pre recorded
the beginning first over out of the show. But I'd

(20:20):
rather sit here two minutes late than have you listen
and me bringing on because in your pre record talkback
you can't have callers, so that would have been AI
could have probably should have tried to get some ale callers. Actually,
I must have had a chance there, Marcus. I visited
Costco the first time a few weeks ago. Not impressed.
It was gluttony at its best. I was shocked at

(20:42):
its produced processed food and bulk. People who were already
quite heavy in weight buying huge amounts of food had
to be seen to be believed. No doubt they will
put the next Costco in a low socioeconomic area like
your show, Cassidy. Marcus. I was watching a woman takeing
eternity climbing a down escalator in some railway station on

(21:04):
YouTube while you let Celine Dion sing her entire song.
Both ladies reached the end at exactly the same time.
That was a bit surreal, by the way, not Selene
d On Jennifer Rush. But that's a quibble, amount of quibble.
A I would have known that, Marcus, Costco is in
a serious a turn of the supermarket. They need to
force the split out of Bagin's ape again. Should have

(21:24):
never been allowed to merge. The tab will be an
A will be AI three D holograms sports commentating, Well,
that could be a good thing. Sports commentary could be AI.
That's right, Marcus. I was at my grand aunt's retirement

(21:51):
village this evening, when your intro music kept playing and playing,
it caused a bit of a stir as someone recalled,
the last time your station played continuous music? Was it
the morning Bruce passed away? Just giving your heads up,
that's all, Mac. I don't know if we played continuous
music when Bruce died. I don't know what we did
we play into this music, Dan Danzy expert on I

(22:13):
think podcasts and music. We are talking AI and costcos.
If you want to come through, get in touch. Oh
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Marcus, do you think
we'd ever end up working for AI robots on the future? Patrick?
Quite possibly? Quite possibly. That's why I'm a big fan
of robots having kill switches that humans can just turn

(22:35):
them off. I think we've passed the stage where we
could legalize that, because the World's not speaking. Is one
that would be the most important law is TeV kils
switches on robots, so when they came at you, you
could sneak around the back and turn them off. But
you just need run bad robots that could turn the
other robots on. Marcus, I can't believe that so many

(23:00):
Marcus I can't believe I'll read all the text actually
because some good ones. The supermarket situation here is a joopoli,
not a monopoly. The duopoly we have is almost unassailable
from attack to attempt. Any form of skirmish would take
three times resources of the market leaders. What overseas companies
would even bother. The grocery price will actually rise as

(23:20):
a newt would want plenty of profit to recover the
costs of this futile exercise. Paul Nicholin needs a lot
of voters money to even try. Cheers, John Marcus, I
just can't believe that so many texts every people are
not terrified of AI. It's going to destroy economies worldwide.
Our world revolves around people working, paying tax to keep

(23:42):
the less fortunate feed in the health system. Except for running,
AI will destroy millions of jobs of very short order.
I work in accounting, and ALI definitely takes out the
boring grunt work. But a lot of clients still seem
to prefer to talk to a real person that can
explain things and understand nuances. Marcus, when AI hosts are
a thing, you may need AI callers, as I won't

(24:05):
be listening or calling Barbara, Barbara, you won't know, You
will not know. There'll be the callers will be AI
and the host will be AI, and you won't know
they even have photos of them. There'll be articles in
the women's magazines of their stories and their backgrounds. You'd

(24:27):
have no idea. It's terrifying. In fact, I've terrified myself.
Oh do we know? Dan? Even with the text, I
don't know how many AI generated texts they've been tonight,

(24:48):
and that could be a thing. Also, I don't know
how we'd stop there. We need handwritten ones on fax paper.
By the way, I don't want to freak people out.
There being no discussions amongst the radio station to have
robot hosts or robot but I think it's probably fun
to second guess them and work out the way it's

(25:12):
going to go, because yeah, entertainment's going to change completely,
and that guy's probably right. We will have movies made
for one But if someone said texted through before that,
there's podcasts hosted by AI, and it's unbelievable. I soon't
know if I can believe that Notebook LM provides podcasts

(25:32):
that are totally AI generated. It makes sense, but with
what are the most podcasts doing what of the most podcasts.
Most podcasts are podcasts interviewing other people at host podcasts,
they've clearly run out of things to say, so I
reckon it's not a bad thing to go to the computers,
because perhaps they would be slightly more broad. AI was

(25:53):
a farmer's thing. W T if what does that mean?
Kind of what you want to say about that? Oh,
artificial insemination, Marcus, if a k the thought of incoming
text just move by goal, we wouldn't know. You imagine
what it's like being a teacher and trying to mark
essays because every I mean if I don't know, if
you've been in the seeing people advertise for jobs and

(26:17):
people applying for jobs, but all the cvs are AI now.
So yeah, and you can tell anyone that writes a
letter or an email to anyone that put it through
AI to sort of finagle It always comes out a
little bit kind of clunky looking, but they'll get better
and better. And that's just how long has it been?

(26:39):
Around two years? Maybe it's incredibly disruptive technology. There's nothing
we can do about it because you don't know where
it is. But they could do AI too. It it
was when I thought, it's not the host, it's the callers.
That's what you want. You need the callers. Without the callers,
you've got no show. So if you just make them

(26:59):
up and randomly generate them brilliant. Some could be argumentative,
some could be controversy, or some could be sort of
you know, they probably had a button to make them
sound like they're intoxicated. So you're up late to day,
You've had a good night. So yeah, been quite a

(27:27):
fun program to make. I'm not going to business around
the world doing Yes, it's a good idea, isn't it anyway,
markets Marcus Welcome.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Hi Marcus A. I I get onto a couple of
little sort of date side things on the internet occasionally,
and AI is rampant in there.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
So are you talking like Tinder or something or like.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
No, No, just on the internet.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Oh yeah, so websites to meet to meet companions? Yeah, yep,
So what's the what's the AI doing?

Speaker 11 (28:08):
Well?

Speaker 2 (28:08):
The one I liked most when I first looked at
them and realized was this lovely lady in the state
somewhere wandering through a field of cows, saying all the
things she wanted to find. The man, and she was
really realistic, but it was repetitive. They don't go along,
they just go through the scenery and then they start again,

(28:28):
and only very short videos. So they haven't developed it yet.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
And why is that? Is it because the website can't
find enough real woman to put on or why would
that be?

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I think it's just to attract people and try and
get their money of them.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah, okay, so you pay what you pay a monthly
prescript subscription? Do you to the website like that?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
No? No, no, free. But they're just developing it, I think.
And so yeah, it's pretty realistic when they see when
you see those programs about that program on TV about
people who sing and dart I can't remember it is?

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Now about what about what? Sorry? Mark?

Speaker 2 (29:09):
That Tommy guy in England who has all those confessions
with musicians and things. I don't remember his name, but
they've got an a program for him on the TV now.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
And then you mean Simon Cowe like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
That's the big AI went on the internet?

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Man, what what is it? Is it an AO version
of him hosting shows?

Speaker 8 (29:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, and he's pretty realistic, more realistic than the people
who are doing and performing. But you can tell from
the faith the movements of the pace.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Okay, well, good luck with all that, Mark, I hope
you find a real one, not a.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Rover I just leave them.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah, good on you. At least you know there are
play of other people that might not have their faculties
it probably think, well, that's the that's the it's the
chosen one, seth, it's Marcus. Good evening, all I said.

Speaker 12 (29:58):
I wanted to talk about AI because I'm a student
and I use it quite a lot, not to write assignments,
but to help me study HM And.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
What year of your beauty studies are you set?

Speaker 12 (30:11):
Only my first year?

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Okay? Okay, so you can't compare it to how much
you would have used it last year. But at high
school last year?

Speaker 12 (30:19):
No, I didn't finish high school.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Okay, so what are you using.

Speaker 13 (30:23):
I would have been.

Speaker 12 (30:25):
I use it to like like summarize my notes, to
make like flash cards, and to read through assignments to
like find the grammatical errors that like grammarly countfind.

Speaker 14 (30:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (30:42):
So I find it very helpful. And I've talked to
a lot of people that like in my cohort for
first year, and we all agree that like AI is
going to be like this, but how the Internet was
introduced and people were like, oh, libraries have more information,
so we'll go to the library. But then the Internet
overtook libraries with information. So that's what we kind of

(31:06):
think AI will be. It'll be something that we can't.

Speaker 15 (31:08):
Live that soon.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
So how are you not doing your essays using AI?
Are you just doing that because it's on a system
or what's stopping people doing that?

Speaker 16 (31:19):
Well?

Speaker 12 (31:19):
I just think, well because on a science I don't
bat for a science, so it can't write science. It's okay,
so bad at it, but.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
I imagine five years time it will come a long
way one because it seems to be self learning the
whole time.

Speaker 12 (31:36):
Yeah, it has it is, yeah, like but it's really
bad with like the copyright of like other because if
they asked it to they give me a source, it'll
give me like bad sources that I'll search them up
and they don't exist, or it will give me things
that are copyrighted that it doesn't.

Speaker 17 (31:51):
Have the rights to.

Speaker 12 (31:53):
So it's like breaking laws sometimes with a copyright.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
And as everyone seemed to be up to scratch and
everyone seems it seems to be sharing information what they're
using AI for everyone's doing what you're doing, right.

Speaker 12 (32:08):
I'd like to think so that I doubt it. I
probably would think that there's a lot of people that
are using AI to write assignments, but there are The
university does have software that can check if it's AI,
but people find their way around it, which is not good.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Nice to talk say, thanks so much for that. There
is a vehicle far and Fairfield, Hamilton multi multiple injuries
there emergency s as I responding by the way costco
not onally bizarrely cheap butter but also cheap mints. Get there,
Andy Marcus, welcome, Oh hikay good? Thanks Andy.

Speaker 18 (32:45):
So, yeah, that AI is pretty interesting.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
I have been doing a lunching lunch.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
Five and.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Sorry Andy, if your phone are you on speaker?

Speaker 6 (32:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (32:59):
Hold on?

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Is that better? Miles AI in nineteen ninety five? Can
you please repeat?

Speaker 16 (33:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (33:07):
So I've been doing that for some time, and I
build AI systems at work and so on, and it's
all got a bit trendy, but it's been going on
like for like since like the fifties when we had
kind of got invented. But it's going it's going so
fast now and like you can clone people's voices with

(33:29):
like thirty seconds versus audio, So like I could record
you off the radio and then I could type stuff
in and it would sound exactly like you. That's pretty sal.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Also too, you can care you can have conversations with
people that have died because you only needed you don't
need that from their answerphone message, and you could then
recreate those people. And it's a pretty weird thing to hear,
isn't it.

Speaker 20 (33:54):
Yeah, it's kind of black mirror. So yeah, if you
had a corpusive text of everything they've said, you could
like put that into a database and kind of then
it could quite quite active, really kind of impersonate them
and seem very lifelike to.

Speaker 11 (34:10):
What they're like.

Speaker 20 (34:12):
So there's all sorts of scams that this opens up,
And that's something that I'm a bit concerned about. Is
so your average granny probably would would know not to
like talk to strangers on the phone, But if a
voice sounded exactly like their son or daughter, then then
that opens up so many scams for people who aren't

(34:34):
on the kind of latest AI is all about.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
It's terrified they can get the phone call and say, hey, Grandma,
it's your grandson here. Look, I've just I need a
thousand dollars instantly. I'm in a country and you know,
I've lost my wallet, and it would be the voice
and they would respond to it, because it's almost like
we need code words to talk to people now, to
make sure they're the real person.

Speaker 20 (34:55):
Well that's a scene from Terminator when the guy say,
it's like, can I talk to Alfie the dog? And
he knows that Alfie's not actually the name of the dog,
so then he knows that he was actually talking to
the terminator. I don't know if you remember that movie.

Speaker 16 (35:10):
I do.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah, it's represcient. I've got to run any but nice
to talk. Thank you. Five way from nine, Stephanie. It's Marcus.

Speaker 19 (35:18):
Welcome, good evening, Marcus Victorious University.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
They had a.

Speaker 19 (35:25):
I think it was approached grat you the things that
the students were doing and we're all uh, sort of
been disqualified and got a camera and very really go
through the answers and that because there were too many
of you.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
They're all going to it was a Lincoln University. They
want to go and explain it because they are yeah, yeah,
which is and there's some universities they reckon they're going
to make people go back to handwriting. Yeah, yeah, because
mind I suppose you get you, suppose you get AIS
to do it, then copy that with handwriting, couldn't you?

(36:05):
But I guess may be that. Yeah, it's it's going
to be really difficult, and certainly for high school. Two
of those teachers won't know what's what.

Speaker 19 (36:13):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
You're worried. You lived in high school.

Speaker 19 (36:20):
Yeah, an high school, so.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
You're worried it's going to take your job, Stephanie, not
not a hope. Okay, thanks definitely. Someone said it was
actually Wolfy the dog from the movie Terminator. Someone said,
bring back Bruce Russell with AI. That could be done.
It could be done, I mean, but then there would
be a whole other discussion with family, and I don't
think anyone's ever talked about doing that because it might

(36:48):
be insensitive. But yeah, there'll be enough recordings of him. Yeah,
so suddenly Hosts become a mortal Josh, Marcus welcome.

Speaker 13 (36:58):
Yes, Marcus, good evening. Yeah, that's what I wanted to
mention was, Yeah, when you have that much Dalla in
your archive, all you'd have to do is feed it
through AI and you've got yourself a hei coos. You
could do that with your digital archive. It could map

(37:21):
out every single word or phrase that you've ever used,
your entire vocabulary, and then you could use it for.

Speaker 15 (37:31):
Anything.

Speaker 13 (37:32):
Yes, if you want to host a show when you're
on holiday, perhaps.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah, I probably could.

Speaker 13 (37:39):
I well, I would suggest that we're getting closer. Yeah,
for sure, for sure. I don't know whether morally you
want to do that without disclosing it.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
I wouldn't. And I don't know how much digital archive
there is. How much digital archive is it down? I
know they keep everything that it's lost after a while.
Is does it go to a hard disk? Coast hard
disk for a year or two? We'll have two years.
That's already four hundred shows, sixteen hundred hours. It's enough there, Jays.
We are talking AI artificial intelligence. Do you think it'll

(38:14):
take your job? Do you think it'll take my job?
Which jobs won't it take? You can't think of many.
I don't know how it's going for farmers, but I
guess this plenty of computerization helped with a dairy farmer. Anyway,
what we are talking there's an interesting text here. Actually

(38:35):
I read the text, and the thing is that we
have probably designed the last daur. I could take my
job and no one would know. Do you think that
AI will take so much energy to eventually run? It
will work out it's in competition with humans for energy,
so it will create its own algorithms. So humans direct

(38:56):
energy away from food production to energy and we all
start listening to AI telling us everything is okay, Marcus, thankful.
I'll continue fil to fill my and my children lives.
Are the wonders of the natural world. To feel a
fish pulling on your line, to cut up a freshly
shot deer and feed your friend with wonderful food. I
will employ AI when necessary, but not in this realm

(39:19):
AI will replace repetitive type jobs. They won't replace empathy
or problem solving, complex personality kind of work. Therapist teaches nurses,
electricians and need to wire residents, and AI does make mistakes.
I appreciate your confidence. I don't know if it's misplaced, though,

(39:39):
I mean, no one really knows. I don't understand what
you're saying there. Steve, that email you can you reframe
that might do a little bit more explanation. Yeah, Brian,
it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
Marcus, you're talking about AI. I was talking to her
programmer the other day about AI. He reckons it will
get to a point where.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Yeah, and why what's the thing you cut out of it?
You said, it'll get to a point where it destroys itself.
Is that right?

Speaker 6 (40:21):
Yeah? He said that the whole thing will get so
jealous for itself it'll destroyed. So we'll go into a
big war for it's against itself.

Speaker 16 (40:33):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (40:33):
I thought, that's an interesting way of looking at it.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Yeah, I mean maybe that's just some Maybe that's just
some trying to put some hope on it. But yeah,
I wonder how that would happen because there's a number
there's a number of different companies that do it, aren't
there there's I mean everyone. There's such a warnow for
AI for employing the best. They're offering people starting salaries
of two hundred and fifty million dollars to work in AI.
That's how competitive it's become.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
Goodness, mate, it's a big.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Salary, that's for real.

Speaker 6 (41:03):
Yeah, it's an interesting wait for us to destroy ourselves
and put we're on the animal that's designing things to
replace herselves. That's for sure.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Don't disagree. Brian Liz Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 21 (41:16):
I thought my find is rather interesting. I've got one
daughter who's in college and she's at the Cold Face,
so I've got a feverly good feedback all the time
of what she experiences. Now this is her take on it.
She thinks, so sents don't know any difference between themselves

(41:42):
and AI. She says, they believe, which sounds odd. That
that what they do is they are, which is them
which sounds silly. Because she does assignments all the time,
presider of teachers, right through to the last year, and

(42:07):
they will handle an assignment, and she's got a very
strong background for it's quite hard credicals over English.

Speaker 17 (42:15):
And she reads the.

Speaker 21 (42:16):
First paragraph and she says, oh no, that doesn't sound
on my pupil. So of course she can't do anything
that insinuates at all that this particular pupil has done anything.
So she has to call them over, say to him

(42:38):
or her, because she needs evidence, which you can't give evidence.
I'll give your account, it's just your own work. Well,
this might go on with various lists she writes out
about where they tick boxes, and they'll say in the end,
they might say no, miss, all right, well they're going

(42:59):
to do it again, Yes, all right, when I can't
they do the next one in AAI that she can't
figure out how they can even come to that. So
in the end she has to be very very very
consune over no no input of you know, our people

(43:25):
are recusing them.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Yeah, it's goopa recolic of a teaching and maybe we
could speak to some teachers. Thanks those thanks for coming
through twelve past nine. Because teachers just want to teach.
The don't want to work out who what's AI, and
who's cheating and who's not. They'll be work around. I
just don't know what they are, Marcus. Maybe we'll get
taken out of by AI robots, Hahan. They all fight
each other and it'll be like, well, we have no

(43:47):
control of Maybe train drivers could be replaced with AI
train drivers, plane drivers, truck drivers, car drivers. It's all there. Well,
it's not quite all there with cars, is it, Marcus.
There have been four trial flights remote parts of the US.

(44:10):
We're the only tech crew on board. Were AI pilots
a bit like the blow up balloon pilot on flying High.
All four flights ended barely with total structure of the
hull even see the eleven a ended up in a
ball of fire on the floor of the desert after
every flight. Makes me wonder if cod hour with a

(44:30):
free drink of bag of snacker Chaggis would improve the outcome.
Marc's the most important question is who owns all these
recordings of your voice and your personality interacting with callers
to create an artificial you? Who gets the money? Also,
I've been using AI in my job since the nineties.
It's enhanced my job and allowed doctors to make diagnosis

(44:51):
that couldn't otherwise have been made. I choose to study
performance news ie to process that the program just gets
more sophisticated. Kate, Yes, my most heartening story about AI.
Thanks for reminding me about that. That's an article I
read recently that there's a lot of drugs and a

(45:15):
lot of drugs, and combinations of drugs are not tested
on things you know, a lot of them. How can
I explain this? So often medicines are desired for designed
for one thing, but through chance they're found to be
very good for another thing that no one expected. And

(45:41):
combinations of drugs can be extremely good, but they haven't
got the money or the groups of the wherewithal to
test them all. So AI has been incredibly well, promises
to be incredibly good with finding miracle cures for existing

(46:03):
drugs and like unbelievably good. So that's positive. Yeah, So
it could find cures from untreatable diseases with drugs we
already have. So there's treatments hiding in plain sight, but

(46:25):
AI can work it out and that shows great promise.
So there you go. That's the most positive story I
can come up with the AI. Apparently the tally of
conceivable drug disease combinations are in the tens of millions,

(46:50):
and they just need to work out what those combinations
will treat and chat what AI can do all of that. Marcus,
did you see the guy in court in America who
tried to take an AI lawyer into court to fight
his case from That makes sense as the AI would
know all the law and will be able to and
arguable points, but the judge didn't allow it. In the end,
it would probably put a lot of lawyers out of business, absolutely, Marcus.

(47:14):
AI is taking over so much of the warehouse, from
production to a sendme to pecking. It's taking many jobs,
which is better as a twenty four seven and don't
get sick, but humans are still needed at some stage.
Hello Darren Marcus welcome.

Speaker 22 (47:29):
Yeah, Hi Hi Marcus. Good evening, evening, you're last Oh
really good. I'm not sure if it was an email
lot of text, but you just said that AI was
used to find off label use for current prescribed drugs. Yes,
and I absolutely have I agree with that. It saved me.

(47:55):
I was absolutely drowning trying to understand these research papers
through PubMed or the National Institute or house like. It's
just you need to have a science degree, obviously medical degree,
and I used a eye to simply. I asked a
question and it gave me an answer, and I didn't
quite understand the answer, so I said, can you simplify that?

(48:16):
And it gave me an answer. I said, can you
put that into a weekly fortnightly protocol? And it did,
And it took me from a situation where I wasn't
going to make it, and I applied what it said
and the information it gave me. It would have taken
me just a year of sundays to read the books

(48:36):
and the papers, and it just made it really simple
for me. And I'm one hundred percent grateful that I
was able to be here in twenty twenty five for
that to do that.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Are you saying you're yeah, will you prescribe drugs yourself?

Speaker 8 (48:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (48:56):
Yeah. So when I took what i'd learned to my
GP and I said, this is why i'd like to
do this, he went, yeah, yeah, I agree with you.
He's you know, he's in his fifties and being around
and read a lot more to me. And I went, oh, fantastic,
And I haven't looked back.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Okay, So did you self diagnosed with the doctor diagnosed you,
but you worked out your own treatment. Is that what
you're saying?

Speaker 22 (49:23):
Well, I had cancer and I had stage four cancer,
so pretty serious, and I was meant to be on
palliative chemo for life. That's what I was told. And
I was just getting beaten into a pulp. And for
about a year I was trying to understand what the
heck was going on. And last Christmas I started to

(49:49):
get a sniff or something and chat gpt pointing me
in the right direction. Like I was doing online courses
which cost me an arm and a leg. I was
reading five hundred page books which I just couldn't understand.
And then I'd say to chat Pet Chat Chat dep
with reference to that book and with reference to what

(50:10):
I was dealing with, what do you think? And it
went blah blah blah. I went, well, that actually makes sense,
and here I am.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Because what I was referring to, and I'll come back
to what you what I was referring to is actually
the medical research companies can now combine different drugs and
actually find cures for things that they didn't know they
would work for. So it's it's more on the medical companies,
but with your case. So they're all drugs that are
available in New Zealand. Is that right?

Speaker 11 (50:40):
Oh?

Speaker 22 (50:41):
One hundred percent? Yeah, Like you'll get this. So like
met Foreman is pretty common drug and it's for people
with diabet beds and it's designed to stop insulin uptake
and cholesterol arttake. So you can see how that makes
sense for someone who's dealing with cancer to block that

(51:04):
glus glucome uptake. So if you if you want to
have a sandwich, you can eat the sandwich, but because
you're taking met Foreman, which naturally blocks that sugar uptake,
then I'm not feeding the cancer cell. It's it's not
as simple as that you've got to have an absolute
cocktail at the right time and not mix it with

(51:25):
certain things. But chat gp just spout it all out
like I'm I'm not a rocket scientist, but it made
it easy for me, and my bloods at the moment
have seriously never been better.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
So you cured or is that what happened?

Speaker 22 (51:42):
Yeah, it's not a subject i'd talk lightly about. I'm
I'm my bloods are immaculate. I actually had my port
waterercare removed yesterday after a year of having it in
my body, and my oncologist went, yeah, Darren, your you
just keep doing what you're doing, and I went, I will.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
So what does that mean?

Speaker 11 (52:03):
So?

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Did did it effected you know because it was your
own case. Did you end up knowing because you could
devote just to your own case and other people probably
have all sorts of patients. Did you end up knowing
more about you than your oncologist and your doctor?

Speaker 22 (52:21):
Absolutely? Yeah, they were blown away. Like I have what's
called some of your listeners might get this, and then
cancers out there everywhere. I have what's called a k
Ras mutation, which is heavily iron driven and without going
too deep on it. Chat GP worked out how to

(52:42):
change the molecules of iron so that my iron driven
cancer couldn't feed off it. I mean, there's a lot
of a lot of paths to this journey. Yes, but
I've been two years now and a couple of other
people who we'll end up talking to each other, three

(53:05):
of them were all told pallative and you know that's
how it is. But not only are we still here,
but we're we're thriving, okay, And it didn't cost a
lot of money.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Now here's the real tricky question for me to you, Darren,
because people will be listening to this and they might
be newly diagnosed or something and are one of your
smarts or your method or your you know how methodical
you are. What do they do?

Speaker 22 (53:37):
So I found my friend and chat GP. So what
I would do is there'll be a oncology letter which
states what type of cancer you have, what mutations, what
variance is, what stage. Put the whole thing into chat GP,
Like take a photo and it just uploads, and chat

(53:59):
GP will read your entire oncology report, and then you've
got to ask it specific questions. It can't it won't.
You can't leave the mic open for anything. You've got
to say what should I do with regards to off
labeled drugs? So these are FDA approved drugs, all legitimate,
there's nothing illegal that are prescribed to this, that, and that.

(54:22):
But if you combine a certain cocktail of them, then
it'll Because you've got beatty acid pathways, you've got blue
to mate pathways, and you've got glycosis pathways, and there's
about twenty two of them in total, so cancer keeps stopping.
As soon as you block one off, it tries to

(54:42):
grab another one. But when you have this combinational cocktail
which chat through back at me and told me what
time of the day, what to have with what, it
was quite incredible.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Should there be a process you go through with your
own collegist or they don't got enough time for that.
I mean, I'm just trying to think of an easier
path for people out there.

Speaker 22 (55:03):
So my oncologist, who I spent the first year with,
I've had a sniff of maybe a few of these things,
and I quietly said to him, I said, what do
you think about this? And he went yes. He gave
me the quiet thumbs up and he said he's got
some of his patients doing it and they're doing well,

(55:25):
But he couldn't prescribe me those drugs because it's not
part of there's no clinical trials behind this, so it's
not a proven practice. But he's if you look for it,
you'll you'll find it. And I'm sincerely not joking about
any of this. It's a pretty emotional subject for if.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
You had to find some you couldn't get a prescribe
for yourself. You had to find this from other means, did.

Speaker 22 (55:54):
You I did?

Speaker 23 (55:57):
OK?

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Yeah, And there could be a risk too that the
outcome could have been negative also, couldn't.

Speaker 22 (56:03):
They No, not at all. No. These are things like aspirin.
These are things like statins like everything. If you if
you eat too many bananas, you're probably going to get
a bit of g I issues, you know, you eat
too many oranges. But these things are safe that are
if med safe approves something, they don't actually mind what

(56:27):
it's approoved for. They're just approving it for your safety,
and then it's up to you how you how you
want to eat them.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
So some of the stuff was over the counter stuff.

Speaker 8 (56:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (56:38):
It is like vermax, which is called fruit, which is
men bend disole, which is a kids so for your
children to get rid of their worms. It's called men
bend disole. That is one of them. So you just
buy it across the counter, no prescription. And there are

(57:00):
other parasitic ones out there. But what they do is
they do some amazing things. And I haven't had any
issues with any of them, and neither of the people
that are following along my lines. I mean this, this
particular call Marcus, it could some people might jump onto

(57:22):
this and.

Speaker 11 (57:23):
I've already texts.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
I've already got to Texas, Marcus, what a cool caller?
Am doing the same. So not only is it surprising
with people, what what was?

Speaker 11 (57:30):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Are you a medical purse?

Speaker 8 (57:32):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Is it your background?

Speaker 11 (57:33):
Darren?

Speaker 22 (57:33):
Are you Marcus? I used to mow lawns and cut
hedges and trees and this this stuff was way over
my head. But it's it's it's look. I'm absolutely emotionally
sincere that it's saved me. And I am like I

(57:55):
do a gratitude diary and sometimes you can just put
in a a I stared at the fence today or
the grass and it made me happy.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Well, fantastic to talk Barren. Well, it's pretty powerful call.
I appreciate that too, and there'll be all sorts of
things that people want to say on the back of that,
so feel free to come through. The number is eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine two nine two text.
We're talking about AI. I'll tell you what. Chet gp
teas a very clumsy name to say, hasn't it, But anyway,
that's what we are talking about tonight. We're talking AI

(58:27):
where it's going to go. Half the people in the
UK think their jobs will be gone because of artificial intelligence,
and I feel we're just kind of on the edge
of really we can see what it's going to do,
because it's evolving quite quickly. You know, two years ago

(58:49):
I said and that could never do a talk show.
But I've got no doubt it could do a talk show.
Could Could it do it as well? Could it do
it better? I don't know the answer to that, but
I guess it will all depend on whether people knew
it was AI. But after a while even that mightn't matter.

(59:09):
People are listening to poetry written by robots, they're listening
to songs written by bands that are AI. Writer is
not gonna be much different, is it? Do you want
to talk, be good to hear from you eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty nine nine to text. Also talk
about cost Co and how big a player that could

(59:29):
be in the grocery wars and why we need more
of them in New Zealand. Where they should go. I'll
put my hand up first and say Rolliston, just because
everything should go to Rolston. The Christians people would drive
down there and get their stuff, but also the people
from Timid who could come up there and esh Burton.
They got all head there. Do you get in touch,

(59:53):
Marcus till twelve? There's something different. You want to talk about,
good good, good, good good good, be in touch. I'll
get to the texts. Marcus. We are still thinking how
AI services humans and humans needs. In the future. AI
may no longer function for humans but themselves. If AI

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don't need to be entertained, My talk back shows they
won't bother replacing. You don't quite know what that means, Marcus.
I think AI can be very useful when you have
questions and things like chet GPT, but I'd hate for
it to take the jobs of people. If you aren't

(01:00:34):
the one running the AI, how would we make money, Marcus?
The relations of last quarter about cancer. I also have
stage four cancer and I'm on a clinical trial for
a drug that inhibits the RAS mutation. I found out
about the trial and about this different kind of cancer therapy,
fied chet GPT and about the trial as well. Yes,

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said worries me. It puts a lot more pressure on people,
doesn't on patients. But I guess there's public people and
experts that will guide you through that. If you want
to talk this line free twenty seven away from ten
Marcus till midnight. That is me or so I'm saying,
any breaking news, keep us across that. Latest reports from

(01:01:19):
the fire in Hamilton. One person has got critical injuries
and serious injuries for two others. This happened on the
corner of Holland Krez Sorry Holland Road and Paul Kriz
Fairfield just before eight pm. The vehicle was on fire

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and that's the latest from that. That was a story
filed seven minutes ago. That's from Hamilton and Fairfield. So
the Serious Crash Unit will be investigating there. So there
will be diversions, said, want to be avoiding that area.

(01:02:07):
Now powerball has been drawn. Has it gone? I can't
say there was a bit slow on that. Don't know
why it should be instant, shouldn't it They've got a
computer sort it out. Beautiful orange crescent moon right now
Marcus AI is taking over. Thought I'd fly to Coles

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and Melbourne from my weekly shop. There was someone I
think it was a Dunedin story in the ODT it was,
but there was someone in Dunedin that did all their
grocery shopping from Australia and even with the cut price
of shipping, it worked out cheap. Remember that story did
the rounds of the talk stations a couple of years ago.
You might remember that as well. I'll back at your

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people twenty three away from ten. All the lines are free.
We're talking costco. Where you want the new costco and
Artificial Intelligence AI the discussion for tonight. If there's something
else you want to talk about for l free, get involved.
Tim Beverage along from midnight tonight. How do you think
a talk AI talk hosted go? Probably pretty well, Marcus

(01:03:13):
Google's notebook l M can take anything you feed into
it and make reconvincing podcasts from it. I do occasionally
put long Wikipedia articles i'm interested into it and have
it turned them into podcasts to listen to. Obviously, only
this would have known you. Marcus slash Night's podcast to
listen to sono a l Sono AI S version four

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point five is mind blowingly good for music. Chet GPT
makes a lot of mistakes still, So what I'm seeing
from this text is people, if you have an appetite
for it, they're into it. They're not scared of it. Marcus,
can you be one hundred percent certain that you've never
had an AI caller? Probably the answer is yes currently,
but that could change pretty quickly. Scary, we could have

(01:03:58):
sentient ais talking to themselves. I have no idea who
would if an artificial call banger. I don't yet know
if they can respond to text in real time. I
guess they probably can. Can they dan Maybe not quite
year there yet, but but we'll be there soon. There'll
be audio, They'll be there soon. Could happen within three years.

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And I don't know what we would do then. If
we'd have to verify yourself as being a human, we
could call you back and say, look, we'll call you back.
And I don't know what the test would be to
make sure they're not a robot. We could ask them
to whistle. Could they have robots cold whistle? Though? Couldn't
they ask them to send a photo of themselves on

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the phone. Probably would be a good thing to do.
I don't know what the answer would be, but maybe
you let them go. That'd be as interesting and perhaps
more interesting. So there we go, twenty one away from
ten o'clock. If you want to be part of the show,
Marcers till twelve and cost Co. The whole story with
Costco is we need more of them. Not only are

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they leading the country with cheap butter but also cheap mints.
That's right, So you might want to mention that I
don't fully know how many more costcos are planned. So

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costcos would has drive driven down the price of butter
and mint certainly where they are. Yeah. Apparently Willis said
that Costco had raised concerns with the government how hard
it has been setting up shops much more expensive and

(01:05:59):
cumbersome to open a costco in West City or Westgate
than it had been in Australia. Apparently in Rolliston, their christchurch,
the Sein District Council has a reissued resource consent for
a business that thought was going to be a costco
that happened in twenty twenty two, but Costco public you

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never confirm that nineteen to ten. Nick, this is Marcus.

Speaker 18 (01:06:27):
Welcome, Hey, good evening, Marcus. Just starting with the Costco question.
The idea is, of course to bring competition of the
supermaker space, which is the only thing that will drive
down prices from consumers. So you might get fun or
two openly here and there, which will affect their supermarkers
around them. But it's not going to say that solved

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the overall problem across the country or it's not the problem.
But the challenge and the outling is Costco's models have
been different from suitmaking. Have to be a member of Costco, Yes,
you have to pay an ENDM membership in order to
be shop there. So that'll be right for most people,
but it might put some of the poor US people off.
I don't know. And they're not really the supermarket. They're

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really just a big They use that as a lost
leader to get people in the world and their other stuff.
So it'll be interesting to see how that works because
they're more like a big store that has a bit
of food stuff in it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Yes, yeah, and there would be grafts of how much
of the supermarket. Well, I suppose there would be ip
about how much percentage money they've taken from the other
big operators. I don't know what that is, but certainly
if it's butter and mints. But yeah, I take your point.

Speaker 18 (01:07:40):
Well, look, I'm in the commercial world. The cost of
production of a of a pound of butter is the
cost of production of a pound of butter. So the
idea that you're going to get massive price decreases is
a fallacy.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
But what we've been told, it's not the cost of
production of butter, it's what it can be sold for
overseas is what dictates the price, not the cost of production,
but the cost of overseas, the overseas price that can
be sold for on the international market, pre market.

Speaker 18 (01:08:12):
That's that's exactly right.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
And yeah, it's got nothing to do with the cost
of production or the environmental cost of productions. Our car
that's been affected.

Speaker 18 (01:08:26):
Yeah, well, I think we're going to go around in
circles on this one. But being a guy that advises
businesses all day for living and had business for thirty years,
the cost of production does affect what you sell something for. Marcus.
But I agree with you because I'm a vested in
kievy fruit, right. We get a good price for our
quality kivy fruit that goes overseas, we get a premium
price for that. We just don't want to pay that price,

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so we sell them a second or third grade Kiwi
fruit into the countdowns or the worst of the court
and whatever that you pay for. But my point is
there's still a cost of producing that kiv fruit. So
if costco comes into the space and decide to stop
qu fruit and sell it for cheaper, they might sell
it for a last feed or whatever that sign and
that's the free space. But you're not going to have

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a long term meaningful impact unless you create the ability
for supermarkets to open all over the country easily. And
that's why AUDI hasn't come in here, whereas England changed
those laws in the early two thousands and that's when
Aldi opened up. Aldi wasn't in before that. So it's
to do with zoning and resourcing. You've literally got councils
around the country that will prevent a supermarket from opening

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in a new place because it's going to affect the
existing supermarket over there, which is ridiculous competition. Yeah, there's
a very good.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Why would councils. Why would councils because they're right? Why
would councils favor one competitor.

Speaker 18 (01:09:45):
Well, I could spend a bit of time on it,
but it's a town hierarchy. So there's a really good
economist that's done some research and he's got all the
evidence and the fact laid out, and you can listen
to it on a podcast called wh Who's on an
Initiative where he goes through he did a big study
and he quates example for example, where councilors turned down

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consents because they don't want that town center being effective
because people will now go over here. What the government's
doing is saying we're going to override that, which I
think is a good thing. So councils can't do that.
Costco can open up and Costco will draw people away
from other town centers. But that's the free market. That's
the only way you get prices down is having more competition.

(01:10:26):
So it's a good thing, but having a few costcos
Marcus is not going to make a big dent nationwide.
As for AI, I just want to point everybody to
or you to the All In podcast, which one of
the four people on. There is a guy called David
Sachs that just led the Genius Act in America on
the AI built and he's also a private investor. They're

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all investing in the part of the data centers. AI
is coming. It's here. It is amazing. It's going to
absolutely harsh human life. It will take some jobs, but
will create other jobs in other areas. So, yeah, it's
like everything. And the water well was invented about three BC,
and when that came along, there was a lot of
protests from people that benefited from here in your labor,
you know, from running people that fetch the water menually

(01:11:10):
versus using the water wheel. So whether it's the telephone
or the TV or the computer, there's always people that
will have a fear of a new a new technology.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Although the guy also the guy's invested in it, Isn't
he the guy that's saying it's going to be a
great thing. He's the one that's making money out of it.
Isn't he be as interest to me? It'd be in
his interest to make out it's a great thing and
not to be weary of it.

Speaker 18 (01:11:34):
Well, I'm not saying that. You take his word from
im saying in terms of telling you what's going on
in the space. More more than saying it's a good thing.
I'm saying it's a good thing. I've got clients that
use it already. So if you're on Microsoft, which a
lot of people have as their teams and everything for
their business, they've got air there AI is called copilot,
you can use that. I had bladder cancer and I

(01:11:55):
survived it. I went to Australia from my operation. What
that guy pulled up earlier is absolutely right medical. When
I give you a reporter, it's full of medical jargon
which has made up words that you don't understand. So
you just put an abjective and you don't even have
to tell it to explain it to you in simple words.
It seems to understand what you're doing and explains what
the reports is. And what they're getting to is they're

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building a big center in America to your point about
the medical stuff, where they will be able to take
all that data from the existing medicines, plus every single
billions of data point from diagnosis from the best stoptors
in America and your GP in New Zealand. We'll be
able to get that and give you the best medical
advice on the planet for no extra than what you're

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paying now and possibly save your life or enheart your life.

Speaker 8 (01:12:41):
And it's going to change.

Speaker 18 (01:12:42):
It's going to allow people. For example, people are making
moves on it already. I heard the head of the
video at their latest All In summit saying that kids
can make Disney quality movies using AIIC. You've got all
these creative people markers that haven't had access. It's a
bit like what's happened to the media space, where a
lot of people who wanted to have the voice didn't
have it. Now you've got YouTube, etc.

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
And podcasts.

Speaker 18 (01:13:03):
It's going to do the same thing. Yes, it's going
to have downside risks and we need to be aware
of that put some guardrails up. But the positives for
mankind are amazing. For example, and all the factories over there,
it's tenx in production, and all their energy plants they
use in AI robots that call up the walls and
go on the floor, and they are able to extend
the life of the energy plants in America, which are
almost all at the end of their life by thirty years.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
Leave it then, nig nice to talk to Thank you
Allison good evening.

Speaker 14 (01:13:30):
Oh hi Michael, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
Thank you Ellison.

Speaker 24 (01:13:33):
Hey, I just wanted to I haven't heard all of
the chat GPT chats tonight, but I just wanted if
there's any any discussion as to how these, especially the
Genai type ais.

Speaker 14 (01:13:47):
Actually work, because.

Speaker 24 (01:13:53):
How they operate. They're called large language models, and they're
trained on dvance amounts of information, so they're not actually
thinking about their responses. What they're doing is constructing responses
on the basis of relationships between words. And as chat
GPT has developed, a new versions have come out, it's

(01:14:14):
sort of got better and better at this. So what
it's particularly good at is analyzing what you put into
it and it turns your results. But it doesn't actually
know anything. It just knows how words are related.

Speaker 11 (01:14:30):
To each other.

Speaker 17 (01:14:34):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
But it's got access to all the information, hasn't it.
That's the thing.

Speaker 24 (01:14:40):
It has got access to all the information. But I
just think it's I think the important thing to understand
is that it doesn't inherently know any more than Google
does or anything like that, and it works on it
works on the relationships between words, and that's what it's

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returning to you. So it's not returning because it knows
amazing things. It just knows, it knows how often these
words feature next to each other, and so it will
return those as results.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
But Alison ultimately doesn't it doesn't that become the same thing.

Speaker 24 (01:15:20):
Well, I guess the thing to think about is where
it's drawing its information from. I've just seen some data
recently that it's that it's drawing from the likes of Reddit, which.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Is okay, which is which is probably.

Speaker 7 (01:15:35):
An authority, so.

Speaker 24 (01:15:38):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
And and also it's drawn from all information it's YouTube
videos or information that's published, so it's probably got a
it's probably got a you know, a white male bias
and all those sorts of things as well. That's one
of the criticisms of it too.

Speaker 24 (01:15:52):
That's right, absolutely, So it's just it's just worth thinking
about those things.

Speaker 14 (01:15:58):
And it does.

Speaker 24 (01:15:59):
Reinforce what what people yes concern confirms what people end.

Speaker 11 (01:16:06):
Here into it.

Speaker 24 (01:16:07):
So yeah, just it's I guess one of the key
things is to think carefully about what it is it's
returning to you in terms of answers and whether they're
just confirming what you want to believe. I'm not saying this.

Speaker 15 (01:16:21):
To poopoo the.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
Sage advice.

Speaker 8 (01:16:24):
Yep.

Speaker 24 (01:16:25):
Yeah, it's just it's just to be aware of where
the information is coming from and how they work. So yeah,
they're not sentient yet. Yes, it's well yeah, and I'm
not sure how far away that is, but we are going.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
To run Allison, thank you, just heading towards the news
people Hittil twelve to beverage along from midnight. Not just
reminding you too. There's been a bad car crash and
Fairfield a serious quest you to investigating the one seriously couple.
So I don't know the full details. I'm never quite
sure what those the full interesces of what those words mean.
But critical injuries for one, serious for two others. That's

(01:17:09):
just happened just before eight pm. And yeah, I think
they are investigating. That are three people we're taken to
hospital the serious question. It was also called to the scene,
so that's probably going to be closed there for a while.
Something else I need to tell you, Ah, the CEO

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of the PNG and r L teams resigned. That's a
bit of a setback for them. Boys thought that's going
to have a few funny things happened before that becomes
a thing. But anyway, that's that. Now. There was a
car on Feign the motorway earlier, but I think we've
mentioned that. But do get in touch with are talking
AI and Costco and people probably largely seem very happy

(01:17:58):
with Costco that go there. It's out of my realm
because obviously it's a long way away from where I am.
I imagine most Auklands and also people out of Auckland
seem to make regular trips there for their cleaning, fluid
and stuff. It's not really something that I can talk
about with the expertise, having that not experienced it. But yes,
you might want to talk about that as well. So

(01:18:19):
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine to nine two detects.
By the way, Powerball first division was not one. I
think it was ten million that rolled over till Saturday.
So in luck, good evening, all head til twelve o'clock
tyms along at twelve we're talking about AI artificial artificial intelligence.
I'm also curious you really adopts what you're using AI

(01:18:42):
four because yes, we've heard tonight that people are embracing
it in all different ways. What's worked well for for you?
It's probably a more interesting way to frame it and
ask you whether you think it's going to take your job. So, yeah,
what what uses have you found that it's good for
and let us know about that. Also talk about costco

(01:19:03):
and where to put the next ones. I reckon ideally
we need four or five, but that might take some time.
I think it's been quite difficult for them to set
up the first one. They're not loving it. Hopeing the
government government will make that easy for that to happen,
and then to bring Aldi in Iceland and some of
the other ones over as well. But yeah, although of

(01:19:26):
course it could not be the game change of people
think it's going to be. But anyway, that's a discussion
so far. Tonight eight past ten, Andrew itz Marcus welcome,
Hi Andrew.

Speaker 16 (01:19:39):
Hi.

Speaker 25 (01:19:41):
Yeah, I just wanted to share with all the listeners.
I only found this out a short while ago, but
it was just delayed to Professor Albert Einstein. I don't
know if he said this, but he wrote this that
he feared, well, I'll just say it exactly. I fear
the day technology surpasses human interaction. Yeah, because we'll have

(01:20:08):
a generation of idiots. But I felt there was a
bit harsh. I don't know why. But but when he
had discovered the all the things he had given us
and all that, a lot of the interviews and things
they gave him, they were quite how can I say,

(01:20:28):
when they interviewed him, they said, well, what do you
think of dark matter? And he said a lot of
things interest me in that, but that last word there,
he said that that's the one that gets me the most.
It's quite interesting. He wasn't really going to chat to
them about that sort of stuff, you know, black holes
and space and time.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure he didn't say it. It's
it's been misattributed. But what is your point about that?
Because the thing is, no one's saying that AI is compulsory,
but it certainly is here and no one can turn
it back on it. I mean, there's money to be
made from it, there's four to be made from it.
It's not like we can unwind it.

Speaker 11 (01:21:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:21:11):
No, Look, I believe standalone is fantastic, But I really
do believe we should wind it back to the days
of two g get people, real get people.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Andrew, how how how do you wind technology back? They've
never managed to do that.

Speaker 25 (01:21:26):
It is, it is, it's it has to be done
from the top, and you have to get leaders involved.
And but if you're not going to have that on top,
on board right from this, you know, from bad, then
well then you're not going to have it. But it
will never happen. Because I wanted to talk about more
about prophecies and things like that, but that's getting a

(01:21:47):
lot deeper and probably a time for that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
But are you okay, yea, Andrew, Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:21:52):
Yeah, I'm just what a lot of my mind, but
that I don't really I feel I don't want to
share some things because yeah, it could it could fit
in a wrong direction. But if I would suggest, I
would say, stand alone.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
What prophecy? What prophecies are you referring to?

Speaker 25 (01:22:17):
Very very disturbing stuff, very disturbing, very disturbing.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
And where have you come across these?

Speaker 25 (01:22:29):
It's something that I've been studying, which is to do
with also what Alberd Einstein was involved with, which was
light and how. In this one of his last interviews,
he was explaining that people don't actually, you know, we
use the term die, you know, finalization, terminalization, dead, you know,

(01:22:52):
but there is no such thing according to his Discoveries
and learn where he's maths. But I mean goodness sake,
But he.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Said, and Andrew a bit long winded for me tonight.
When you say you're studying, when you staying and studying
at your university.

Speaker 25 (01:23:10):
No, no, I'm finished my So when.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
You say you're studying, what do you how are you doing?

Speaker 25 (01:23:17):
Okay, lansing about light, specifically about light and energy in
that but he was, he was, He was discussing this
with his interviews and it. He said, pretty much light
is part of the soul of being.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
Okay, I might live a there and with but nice
stuff that. I appreciate your your enthusiasm, clean, good evening.

Speaker 26 (01:23:39):
Welcome, Oh hi Max, I didn't expect come on so quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
Look, I always I always think it's good to get
people to wait as little time as possible. Oh, thank you,
great side provide.

Speaker 26 (01:23:56):
Yes, I know I can't always be done, Marcus, I've
gone a little story about a I will try to
find a little bit alarming. I had occasion to go
to my GP about three weeks ago, and I was aware.
He had asked me the previous time if I was
aware they used AI and I said no, I wasn't,

(01:24:18):
So he explained it to me and he said he
was an advocate for it, and that it enabled him
to sit and face his patient rather than having to
go to a keyboard and type up while they're talking,
and he could give the consultation his full attention and
then the excuse me, I've had this jolly COUGHI would

(01:24:41):
produce a report which would go onto my notes. Well,
I never thought much about it, but he was telling
me he'd just got back, actually from a long break
three months away, and he'd been sailing with his family
off the coast of Croatia. So he was telling me
a little bit about that, and then I just happened

(01:25:03):
to mention that a friend of mine had lost her
mother very recently, and it just seemed to be a
lot of sadness around. Anyway, I'll get to the point
when I got home, and I don't usually do this,
but I've got Tom managed my health portal. You're aware
of that, where you can log into your notes and
read what the clinician has written about you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
No, I'm not aware of that.

Speaker 26 (01:25:26):
But yeah, oh okay, Well we've got it in Hawk's Bay. Anyway,
I don't know how wide spread it is. So you
can go online, you can order a prescription or send
an email to your doctor through this thing called Manage
My Health Portal. And so I clicked on to clinician
notes and it said Glenn has recently returned from a

(01:25:49):
trip sailing off the coast of Croatia.

Speaker 15 (01:25:52):
It's me.

Speaker 26 (01:25:53):
I hadn't been anywhere. That was him that had been.
And then it went on and said she lost her
mother very recently, and went on and there was totally
out of context. Was nothing correct. I actually was so alarmed.
I emailed him straight away and he must have then
read it, and he m, I'll be back, and he said, look,

(01:26:15):
I apologize profusely. He said, I'm really sorry, and he
said I should have checked it before I clicked on save.
But he said, now you've alerted. So you said. It's
not fool proof by any means, is it?

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
And I have spoken to I've spoken on the show
about that software. And I think it's called Heidi or
Heidi Health. Because I didn't know about it and what
it does, I don't necessarily know that it's. What it
just does, is it transcribes what has been said to

(01:26:49):
save the doctors from writing all that down right, But
clearly it's not that accurate, and clearly the doctor needs
to go. So yeah, I think your concern is, your
concern is is completely justified because they haven't checked it.

Speaker 26 (01:27:03):
Yeah, no he did, He apologized profusely. He did. I don't.
I mean, I've got great faith in my GP, so
I'm not casting aspersions on him. But I just wanted
to point out people that maybe we need to be
a little bit careful because if I hadn't gone and
checked that, and he hadn't, and Pets was a locom there,

(01:27:24):
and they would read up these notes and I didn't
tell you any more about it, because I would have
said a lot about my Yes, understand.

Speaker 15 (01:27:32):
But.

Speaker 26 (01:27:33):
I just sound quite alarming, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
If it's got who's on a holiday wrong and whose
mother has died or father's died, and what's it going
to do about your medical Yeah, it's a really good point.

Speaker 26 (01:27:42):
Well that's the point I'm trying to make exactly.

Speaker 17 (01:27:45):
So I am.

Speaker 26 (01:27:47):
I just think I have the option of saying to
him when I go, look, I don't want you to
use that. I think the patient does have that option.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
Yes, if I were, you ad opt out of it.
I didn't realize that you could go on excess. I
didn't realize you go and excess all your notes either.

Speaker 26 (01:28:03):
Yeah, yes you can. Well here this function is great
because you don't have to bother the doctor, whether a
prescription or if you have a concern, you can email
or the nurse. We've had it here in Hawk's Bay
for about three years, I suppose.

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
Okay, well, that's very interesting, Glenn. I appreciate that. Thank
you for that. Boonad ats Marcus, good.

Speaker 11 (01:28:25):
Evening, Marcus. See, I had a very good experience with AI.
Our electric jug packed it's sad and I started looking
for a new one and they were one hundred and
sixty dollars at one of the big shops, down to
one hundred and forty dollars on sale. And I just

(01:28:47):
happened to mention it to my daughter and she said, oh,
go on to chet GPT and just put in the
model you want. I did. It came back with sixty
seven dollars wow, and seven dollars courier. But it was
a am I allowed to mention.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
The firm's name, Oh it's important that you do is.

Speaker 11 (01:29:08):
Elite Electronics and it has a web page of AU
which of course is Australia, but it gave New Zealand
dollar price and I thought, oh well it's worth a try,
so booked paid for this jug Three days later it arrived.
They must have a warehouse here somewhere in New Zealand,

(01:29:28):
because I was incredibly impressed. And so I've been mentioning
it to anybody and everybody that I positively can.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
Wow, it's good, it's good. It's just like the old
ketle is as.

Speaker 11 (01:29:38):
Good as Oh well it's a Russell Hobbs one, which
was a fairly high class one and yeah, stay in
the steel and all that sort of it's yeah, we
had a Breavel before that and you know that lasted
was probably ten years or something like that. But yeah,

(01:29:58):
this one's a similar model. Yeah. So very very pleased
with AI and I've used it. What was the other
thing I looked for the other day and I just
happened to put in, you know what I wanted, and
there came back with all these various answers of places

(01:30:18):
you could get this. Well, it was a tire for
a wheelbarrower. That's right, tricky thing.

Speaker 3 (01:30:24):
To get a wheelberry tie. Where'd you get it from?

Speaker 11 (01:30:28):
I've got it from a it was. The tire was
actually from on trade me, but the tube was I
couldn't get a tube for it, and so yeah, I
went on chat GPT and they got this tube for
thirteen dollars. So I was very impressed.

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
From where.

Speaker 11 (01:30:49):
I don't remember but what the name of the film was,
it was down the South Island and and I think
it was in the cargol actually, to be honest, it
was an sec or some and.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
They like that. They mailed it to you today.

Speaker 11 (01:31:03):
Yeah, curiated it to me. It took three or four
days to get up here, but yeah, no, incredibly good
price and so saves me an awful lot of time
wandering around the internet trying to find these things myself.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
So was the older in YouTube just punctured or did
you lose it?

Speaker 11 (01:31:23):
I no, the velvet pulled out.

Speaker 3 (01:31:26):
Oh you can't fix that.

Speaker 11 (01:31:30):
True. True, Although I did actually ring tire Power or
one of those crowds and they said, oh, they can
vulcanize it back in, but it was going to cost
a lot more than what the YouTube was with, so
it wasn't worth my while going down that track.

Speaker 3 (01:31:46):
Nice hear from you, Brunond, Thank you so much for that, Marcus,
till twelve, good evening, welcome eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
It's all about everything tonight, but mainly AI and costco
the other two major topics, major topics, anything else that's
were on about good twenty three past ten. Keep the
texts coming and uses you found for AI? And do

(01:32:12):
you think you'll be out of a job because of it?

Speaker 21 (01:32:21):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
What's this test about? The Vinger Boys? Oh? Hi, Marcus.
They blast your theme song through their speaker phone at
two a m. And we stalk and they also play
the Vinger Boys. We like to party. We like to party.
How are the Vinger Boys? I found myself singing that
last one? We like to party the Vinger Boys, comment Marcus.

(01:32:45):
The medical dictation software the doctor was using is not AI.
That's right, and manage my health in three point sixty
is nothing new. It's been around for years. But it
is also problematic because it is about Yeah, it's about
the input of data and that not being checked. I
guess that's the point of salience. So if you're not
checking the data going in to make sure it's right,
then you can come up for confusion. The doctor should

(01:33:09):
have checked those notes particular, if you knew that person
had the portal. Marcus, how come we're hearing repeat calls tonight.
The man who talked about his new jug was on
weeks ago, Bernard you or maybe it wasn't him, Maybe
it was a chet GPT, maybe it was just a
who knows. So if you're in my position right now,

(01:33:32):
guar rings up and he says he's got a new jug,
What am I going to say? I've heard that before.
Terrible thing to say, but I'm hearing you. You've also
got to be respectful. I think it's part of my
brief anyway, But I didn't there was new information. That's

(01:33:53):
why I got the new information about the inner tube.
So I had heard that before. One how I wrecked
the valve on the tire. I tell you I was
curious about that. Didn't go there with that, I reckon.
Out of everything I've bought, nothing has given me as
much long service is the wheelbarrow. Honestly, it's just one

(01:34:19):
of the great investments, so versatile and very little can
go wrong with it. PARF obviously tar and that's cheap.
Back at your people want to talk twenty five past
ten AI and Costco and if there's something different good,

(01:34:39):
we can embrace it all tonight. Now, someone sent me
a podcast about news talk ZB that's been generated. Now
that's not something I'm going to listen to, but thank you.

(01:35:02):
I don't know you could generate podcasts, but I guess
it makes sense. If you're on long drive you can
listen to everything. I can't get into it, by the way,
it's got to click things and stuff just coming up
to headlines. People, if you want to be involved with
the show costco Oh, there's other stuff all side. And
I let's say if we can spiced up a little bit.

(01:35:23):
Doo a very key about the AI stuff. Found that
very interesting. But if that's not you liking the Hour
of the topics, you might want to talk about supermarket
supermarket supermarkets. Everyone's an expert, aren't they. No one likes
a Jiwopoly. What else can I tell you about tonight? Oh,
it is World's Rock Paper Scissors Day. I found people's

(01:35:45):
reaction to the Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey wedding slightly
weird on all levels. Either people are sort of simpering
and asking them to come here, or people are sort
of triggered by you don't know what's about the happening
about that. I guess there's just doubters and haters everywhere,
aren't there anyway, Ken It's Marcus.

Speaker 6 (01:36:03):
Welcome, Good evening, evening, Marcus.

Speaker 18 (01:36:06):
I just wanted to comment on the cost coding and
the whole supermarket issue that's been discussed and hopefully improved
at the moment I heard Nikola willis, you know, make
this announcement like if there's some huge revelation that they're
going to remove all the red tape and bureaucracy and

(01:36:31):
make it easier for somebody to enter the market and compete.

Speaker 27 (01:36:35):
And I find that in prejudice that no one didn't
think of doing that fifteen or twenty years ago. And
if that had happened back then, we probably wouldn't have
the cost of living crisis that we had. Because in
my universe, I'm just the man in the street. But
the thing to affect me in terms of cost of living,

(01:36:57):
there's three main drivers. One is fuel, the other food,
and the other one's power. But at the top of
that would be food. So you know, I just I
just couldn't believe that she trumpeted this thing like some
you know, huge announcement that that's that's like a new
sun rising on.

Speaker 18 (01:37:19):
On my rising.

Speaker 27 (01:37:19):
I'm thinking, what the hell haven't they understandfore, why is
everything take.

Speaker 18 (01:37:24):
So long and so slow?

Speaker 8 (01:37:27):
Can I think she said?

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
I think, I think it's all about Poul whispering. They're
just trying to get their numbers up by looking like
they're finally doing some things about the cost of living crisis.
It's pathetic.

Speaker 27 (01:37:36):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, uh, there's something else is going
to say about that. It just seemed to me that, yeah,
it's just something that should.

Speaker 5 (01:37:47):
Have been done.

Speaker 13 (01:37:47):
That's what it was when she when.

Speaker 27 (01:37:49):
She said that up till now, you know, it would
take four years to get consent to build a single supermarket,
and you know, in a in a city or territory,
and it would cost millions. I mean, who went enter
a market that happened in practice?

Speaker 5 (01:38:07):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
Well, and even then, why would you do that in
the third year of your term in government? That's the
but I can't understand.

Speaker 27 (01:38:15):
Exactly, Yeah, I mean, who who was keeping that? How
come the previous government's plural didn't address this and break
the duopoly a.

Speaker 18 (01:38:28):
Long time ago and we wouldn't have the situation.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
With that now, because clearly it's in their interests over dyopotly,
I would imagine it's it's probably all to do with
with the people that advise and you know, and the
people have the air of the government. I mean that's
the thing, isn't it.

Speaker 27 (01:38:52):
Yeah, And even with a new entrant, you know what
they've got to look at. You know that beforecasting years ahead,
and New Zealand has been somewhat habitual, it would take
them years to grab a significant market share anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:39:09):
You see, I don't think it'd be worth their while.
I don't think it'd be worth their while for a
newcomer because these two are so entrenched and they've spent
so much money. The status quo is going to I
think we've got it forever. I think it's going to
be too expensive for a disruptor.

Speaker 27 (01:39:23):
Yes, yes, I agree, yes, all right, that was my point.

Speaker 3 (01:39:27):
Thank you, and I appreciate that Ken, Yes, that's right. Well,
of course the other two big things, the broad expense
is for people. Now it's not just what he's the
electricity and groceries. It's also insurance, which has got up
nine hundred percent. And that's because the one group that
are factoring in the cost of climate change. Are the
insurance companies. They always will be. They're the ones that

(01:39:49):
factor and risk. That's their job. The other thing, of course,
is rates, and that's all because of local water done
cheaper whatever it's called, because the people wanted to do
the rates locally, and the water infrastructure, the s, the pipes,
the plumbing is incredibly expensive to fix and the maintenance

(01:40:12):
hasn't been done and there was a fix around for that,
but no one wanted it. So yep, that's what's happened.
And as a result, if no one wanted three waters
because of the makeup of some of the panels, but
what they've got now is much much more expensive rates
and they're going to go up for the next ten years.
Twenty six away from ten. Peter Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 28 (01:40:33):
Yes, Marcus. I used to work in the advertising industry
and had retired from it, and a little while ago
helped the mate of mine who's a scientist up in
the States, put together some content for that he wanted
on website and wanted it in English, French, Spanish and German,
and so at the back time a few years back,

(01:40:55):
I was able to use chat GPD to get all
the translations. Still had to upload the copy and paste English,
ask it to translate it into French, and then I
copy and paste the French, put it back and ask
it to translate it into English. So I had a
kind of a double check that it was making sense.

(01:41:18):
So that might be I don't know. Three years four
years ago, I've been doing some other work again for
the same scientists and now using Perplexity, which is kind
of AI on steroids. Don't have to go through any
of that double handling, and shove anything into it that
you like, and I'll give you the answer in a
few seconds. And then if you want to go in

(01:41:42):
and do research on any subject that's really quite deep
and you want some really some real quality information, there's
an AI called Elite, and it takes a lot longer,
but when it gives you a report which you can

(01:42:03):
then print out as PDF, it gives you all that's all,
it's all the resources that use that lists them all,
and it gives you all of the It takes a
lot longer, but it's very very thorough, so you're getting
you get this stuff exponentially improves itself as it goes along,
Like when you when you make a correction like I

(01:42:26):
did in a couple of times on translation, on GP,
on chet GPT, it recognizes that and it immediately adopts
that improvement. But not only that, all the other AI
recognizes what the improvements chat GPT are making advice of versa.

(01:42:49):
So these things are improving themselves at a rapid rate.
And just to go back to the advertising industry, there
is that there's an international company on the Stock Exchange
called Omnichrome. They've got head agencies and I don't know
how many countries around the world, seventy seven thousand employees.

(01:43:10):
They're just about dying because they're being replaced by companies
that are doing most of the advertising optimization, buying, even
creative work through AI. And they do it in milliseconds,
as opposed to people sitting down and talking about creative

(01:43:30):
ideas for a month and then coming back and making
a presentation to a client. These things, all this stuff
will do it just for you directly. You don't even
have to go to an ad agency. You just go
in and get produces it. Now, I'm sure that's happening
in other markets.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
And the ideas, the ideas, the ideas are good. Pe
you know that that. Man, they're good ideas.

Speaker 28 (01:43:55):
There is good good ideas. They are In fact, in
some cases I look at them and think, well, that's
a hell of a lot better than we were able
to do.

Speaker 17 (01:44:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:44:04):
Yeah, I've read articles of that. Scientists and scientists trying
to crack problems have started having discussions with AI just
say well, please explain to me what I'm looking for,
and through a lot of back and forward and going
through it helps scientists clarify discoveries they're trying to make,
and it can be a real, real useful tool. People

(01:44:25):
are finding it incredibly beneficial full sorts of things that
they probably didn't think it was going to be good
for what we're going on going on to.

Speaker 28 (01:44:31):
Say, I was just going to say, I think there
is a bit of a fear that it will replace jobs.

Speaker 8 (01:44:36):
I mean there's a.

Speaker 28 (01:44:37):
Lot of you know, the words that are being used
out there about our efficiency and all that sort of thing.
I think in behind that is actually a real danger
that in a lot of industries, I don't see lawyers
heading for example, or the legal industry having much of

(01:44:59):
a long term life as AI takes over doing preparing
documents and doing it well, I don't see companies with
a lot of lawyers, and I think they'll still be
legal companies offering a service, but it'll be done by AI.

Speaker 16 (01:45:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:16):
I don't fully know what lawyers do, but imagine a
lot of that is preparing cases and briefs. And I
imagine that stock and trade for AI, isn't.

Speaker 28 (01:45:24):
It, Yeah, it is, it is. And most of this,
you know, even even things like sale and purchase of
property and so on, it's all done on their ADSL
forms and things. Well, all of that can be All
the information is necessary to fill out those forms could
just be generated by AI using its own research. They

(01:45:46):
can research, precedent, they can do and that's already happening
overseas in the States. There are AI legal firms that
are just you know, taking out of the industry.

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
So it wouldn't be worth studying law. There'll there'll be
no point to it.

Speaker 28 (01:46:00):
I think the thing to start studying now is being
a plumber, being you know, I can't see AI trade.

Speaker 3 (01:46:08):
Yeah, I think you're probably right. Building houses has been
a plumber. Being electrician in a nurse cutting here.

Speaker 28 (01:46:16):
Yep, yep, even though being a nurse, yes, but being
a doctor go to be careful because now the robotics
taking over the surgery, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
Yep, and that's probably not necessarily a bad thing. Peter,
nice to talk, thank you. I just don't think which
of the professions would be the ones that would be
the most robust or most safe against an AI invasion.
It wouldn't accountancy or law, I don't think. Would it
be architects. I don't necessarily know. Would it be a

(01:46:50):
rocket scientist? Perhaps, Marcus, Costco is already here, so what's
thread tape got to do it? It's sick of this
con job. Thank you for that, Marcus. Six years ago,
just Sinda was welcoming Costco's first story, giving them many
regular treyconcessions, claiming Costco had cracked the Giopoli. Willis is

(01:47:10):
promising nothing different. Marcus. A couple of nights ago, you
were talking lobbyist is what I was thinking O, the
word I was thinking about with those people in government,
of the lobbysts. They are the effective ones. The other ones,
I'm sure the persuade government that the geopolies doing just fine. Marcus.
A couple of years a night ago, you were talking
about cars with rare engines. Do you want to tell

(01:47:32):
you about the Goggomobile. I saw one over sixty five
years ago. Stayed in my mind after all this time.
I don't know what that is, the Goggomobile. I'll look
it up though, Oh microcar. It's a Bavarian micro car.

(01:47:53):
Pretty interesting. The Gogomobile is a series of micro cars
produced by Hans Glass the Bavarian town of Dingolfing between
nineteen fifty five and ninety and sixty nine. Don't know
how they produced a nice looking they're amazing looking cars actually,

(01:48:14):
so there we go Google if you want to look
at them. There is a documentary made about the Dart,
which was one of them seven hundred sport cars called
the googabel Will. Darts were produced by Buckles Motors in Sydney, Australia.
Fastnating think cars history and how they get around eighteen
away from eleven. Hey, hey, Peter, this is Marcus. Nice

(01:48:36):
to have you on board. Welcome. Hello, Yeah, Hi Peter, Marcus.

Speaker 17 (01:48:42):
Welcome, Oh hi Michaus, look Micaus. Today we're talking about Ai,
a friend. Then I and friend sit to me. Okay, Peter,
what would you do if I asked you a question?
AI was with us, and he's a nicey to my

(01:49:02):
friend what we should have said? And a friend sit
to me, h, okay, Peter, what profession when you work?
And I say to my friends, I work at the
work at the beneficiaries, and and and and friend said, now, Peter,
wiz that I said, Oh, I walked into income support

(01:49:24):
and did a liner. And then the friends say to me, AI,
is that correct?

Speaker 15 (01:49:32):
And Ai.

Speaker 17 (01:49:34):
AI said, no, Peter's unemployed. He's been unemployed all his life.
He's never had a job. He's he's loved for his
appearance half of or something like that. And then I, oh, shot,
you know, and nah, it can't be right. My main

(01:49:57):
had as a suffering.

Speaker 11 (01:50:01):
Uhh.

Speaker 17 (01:50:03):
And that's what let's see about me.

Speaker 3 (01:50:08):
It wouldn't have it. It wouldn't have that information about you.
I don't think Peter would it was he was he
pranking you?

Speaker 17 (01:50:15):
Because I'm what happened was the friends quot ah, he's downloaded. Yes, Aim,
I don't think it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:22):
I don't think I have. I don't think I would
have information about your employment history. I'll check it out hereway, Peter.
Thank you. Sixteen to eleven Marcus. I agree so much
with this caller. How come our government has not upset
the dropoly in the past. The other part I cannot
get my hands around is we constantly hear about there
are four BIGUSSI banks here holding us to ransom. And
yet on the other hand we are being told that

(01:50:43):
this government wants to encourage competition in the food market.
That is great, but they don't want companies like ald
and Costco to come to the market even one, two
or three food companies do this. If they run in
the same fashion as the banks, we will not really
be any better off. And next thing we'll be complaining
with all the supermarkets reverces owned. Having said all that,
we do have great supermarket availability in a safe, secure,

(01:51:04):
stable bank system here, so maybe we should be thankful
for that. Finally, the plumber or the drain lamb, maybe
the careers of the future Marcus safe job would be
an undertaker. There we go, Marcus, I think our population

(01:51:25):
is too small to attract other supermarkets. Marcus had a
sunbeamp in the seventies. I remember having a rear engine
turkois colored. Great car. Marcus, the oldest professional will be
the safest from AI. These would have been born at
the beginning of time as necessary professions. Cheers Brenda, not
you know AI, thanking you for that. Wow, get in

(01:51:51):
touch twelve from eleven. Any other news I've got for you,
I'll bring that to you. Just still further reports about
the person critic engine in the Hamilton crash in the
car that was on fire was just before eight o'clock.
Also doneath. The Custard Square Company are in trouble. They've

(01:52:12):
gone into liquidation. I don't know the full details there,
but that was a beloved company. I think it was
from Pleasant Point. I've got a confession about pleasant Point,

(01:52:33):
and you know what confession is. I think it's a
stupid name for a place, not because I don't think
it's pleasant, but I always thought pleasant Point I thought
about that for years and years and years, and I
always thought a place called pleasant Point would be on
the coast and confused me forever, just as same as

(01:52:56):
is another place called to a peck of Mouth. I
always thought that would be on the coast as well.
Of course that's in land, and that's where the punters
to a peck of Mouth punts. I always thought they'd
be on the coast, and Pleasant Point is willinland, but
they are famous because apart from having custared squeeze or

(01:53:16):
once head custed squeeze, they have quite a good rail
museum that has one of the model T Fords that
was converted to go on the railway tracks, which is
kind of a big deal in the train world. But yes,

(01:53:37):
pleasant Point, am I am I the only one that
always thought was on the coast. I mean I've rectified
that about twenty years ago, but I should have wacked
fed it a long time before that, maybe twenty five
years ago, Pleasant Point. But that's yes, where the custard
squeze came from. Anyway, that's me. Oh, No, one's backed

(01:54:03):
me up on Pleasant Points, So yes, I guess that's
probably one. Probably someone listening on the podcast and that
will resonate with them tonight. It's all about cost Co,
when we're going to get more of them and where
do you want them? Also we are talking and how
good is Costco. Fory is sort of doing trips up
from you Plymouth, and also talking about artificial intelligence, how
it's affected your life. Do you think it's going to

(01:54:24):
take your job?

Speaker 27 (01:54:26):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:54:27):
Has it already taken your job? Some of them have
already gone. It seems so you might want to talk
about that too tonight. That's what I'm talking about eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine two text. If
you don want to come through Marcus Still twelve get
in touch anything else, We're here for you. So let's
be hearing from you here to midnight. Tim beverage from

(01:54:47):
twelve Oh. I was going to say it the international news.
It's of interest, that's right, have of a coroick squizz
around for that. There's no word yet on the capture
of the person a ligity to have killed those police
people in Australia, a sovereign citizen, whatever that means. So

(01:55:10):
there we're gunshots detected, but I don't think there's any
advances on that story yet. So that's that and not
a lot else I can see currently, but I'll do
what I can to bring you an information for you.
So yeah, we are talking chet GPT or out of AI.

(01:55:33):
I don't know why. I guess chet GPT was the earliest,
but we're talking AI. Oh, there's a Boeing seven three
seven carrying one hundred and ey one people has made
an emergency landing after tire explodes on takeoff in Sweden.
Nice looking plane, nice paint job. I'm still waiting for
more information about Air India. It's taking a long time,

(01:55:55):
isn't it. They've gone very quiet on that. I don't
really know where we are. And also to obviously Taylor
Swift has become engaged. And that is that. I know
our Prime Minister asked them to come and have the
wedding here, and I'm sure most of you, like myself, thought, gee,

(01:56:19):
aren't there more important things you should be doing? But
that is that. I think they all hope for a
viral moment that's going to give them the bump in
the polls. But yes, I think viral moments are a
little bit more difficult to engineer than just saying, come
and have your wedding here. Unemployment rates in the UK

(01:56:45):
are soaring towards the worst heights that they were during
the COVID pandemic, although they are only four point seven percent.
I think we're probably doing worse than they are looking
at that. Now, do get in touch if you want
to talk. There's something else you want to talk about.

(01:57:06):
That's those texts coming through, and we'll get ready for
the final hour hit or midnight tonight. Marcus pleasant Point
is extually every pleasant town has esteem, trained, freddy locals,
and cheap accommodation. That's exactly what I've said. I've no
doubt extremely lovely town and a great train museum. But

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what I have said there must be a lot of
confusion because most places, when it's got the name Point
in it normally indicates it's on the coast. Great town,
but just not where I thought it would be. All
the other towns with Point at the end of them
are coastal, and certainly is pleasant, no doubt about that.

(01:57:48):
It's just not on the coast. And that's my point
for that one. I'm not doubting its veracity as a
lovely town or that the custod Squeeze wereent fantastic. Any
Custard Square is good, but the duneath Ones were particularly
spongy and buoyant. Eleven oh seven seven past eleven, final

(01:58:08):
our for me. Here we go, in come the calls,
that's God, keep it going, here'll twelve, here to the end,
here'll midnight, hredle tim What have you got? People? Did no?
One didn't reason with anyone about Pleasant Point, did it?

Speaker 16 (01:58:21):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:58:22):
Here we go? Yes, Marcus. Every time we drive from Christ,
which I say to the family, pleasant Point is not
that pleasant today, but a self centered name, and it's
nowhere near the coast exactly. Think there's a Richard Pearce
monument near where he first flew the plane. That's quite pleasant,

(01:58:42):
to be fair, Marcus, I live in Pleasant Point, all
those sixteen k's from the sea. I do believe it
was named because it's near the convergent point of the
two rivers of Tanawi and Olpahe. It was seen as
a pleasant place for the wagoners to rest. I'm pretty
sure that this is backed up with a Google search, Buty,
having checked and used the Railway Museum. Actual railway line

(01:59:05):
is amazing. We have two engines and a model T
rail car. That's right. What wouldn't call it? I guess
you would call it a rail car? Would you call
it a rail car? I don't know if you would
call it a rail car. I don't know if it's
a model T. But anyway, the point I'm making about
Pleasant Point are most people surprised where it is? It

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is a rail car. They operated on the Waikaya line
and the Glenham line. There's only a couple of them made.
I think so it was like a car but with
an engine and with railway sets on it. It's quite
famous in the world of the trained people, and I
think there's only one in existence that is the pleasant Point.

(01:59:47):
But all the only point I'm making. Two were built
amazing looking things. I had a tractor front on them.
Two were built from model t Fords. Yes, and the
passenger area was eleven feet by seven feet. Didn't hold

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many people, but it was a great thing. Was just
one person could operate it, as opposed to all the
other finagling around with a steam train. It's seat eleven
people plus the driver. There you go Whaykaia and Glenham,
which was the Windham line that's where Janet Frame's father

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was the station master. And a replica it was a replica,
not an original, but a replica at the Pleasant Point
Railway Museum. So there we go. But the point I
was making is that you'd think it would be on
the coast. Yes, and I'm sure it's called it because

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a pleasant Point in the two rivers. But for most
people that assume it would be on the coast, I
don't want to get for arguing about Pleasant Point. By
the way, you either agree with me. We kept quiet.
That's a joke. Good evening, Marcus. I've always said that
schools will a run us. Any conduction with and coordinated
with businesses, elder schooled people, politics and other agencies could

(02:01:17):
teach certificated trades in schools. This would have students leaving
school with a certificated a certified trade. Thanks Priscilla. It
might be coming. But even if everyone becomes a plumber
or a builder or a hairdresser, there's not enough places

(02:01:40):
for them to build or here's to cut. So someone's
going to be able. We all can't all become plumbers.
That's my advice. It's eleven past eleven. We want to
talk for this final how that we are talking about
AI artificial intelligence, how it's changed your life and Costco.
Where should the next one be? And are you still

(02:02:01):
part of the Costco cult? But as a cult, because
you've got to start up for membership. I've come so
close to going there. It's a bucket list for me.
Oh and on a serious topic, I'm just talking at
that stir about the purse that fell down the coast
and the mine on the West coast. I've heard no
more information about that tramp but that went missing in

(02:02:23):
the West Coast. Have I missed something there because I
can't work out why there's not more people looking for
him or I mean, he's been gone a while now,
but that was surprising to me that there's been no
more information. So you've got something to say about that
also too, But all the lines are free to live
in past lef. There's anything else you want to mention
in the end, good, I'm happy to hear from you.

(02:02:45):
It is National Banana Day. Anyone out there obsessed with
bananas and would be the most you'd eat in a day.
I'm kind of interested in bananas. I don't love them
as a food, but yes, it is banana Lover's Day.
Do you might have something interesting about a banana which
even say it's a fruit, I don't know, it's probably

(02:03:06):
is it?

Speaker 17 (02:03:08):
Well?

Speaker 3 (02:03:08):
I believe about bananas there's very ready to people complain
about the price. They're always just kind of the same,
aren't they. There must be a good global network of bananas.
Although I know the Cavendish the brand is probably vulnerable
to disease, and I reckon it all could be wiped out.
But anyway, so banana call would be good if anyone's
got interesting banana story. I don't know why to celebrate today.

(02:03:31):
Why today is banana Lover's Day. And I've never heard
of anyone celebrate banana's day. That doesn't stop us bananas
a banana split. I've always thought that's disappointing. And I
don't think it's a melding of the ice cream and
the banana. Always thought that's a nonsense kind of a dessert.

(02:03:55):
That's just me. You might have some different opinion. A
couple of texts anymore and from the Cook Street, Cook
Straight and may Day call out. Nothing on that, Marcus
agree with, expecting pleasant point to be on the coast.
Maybe Prime Minister could be a winning plan of since
he's not very good at his current position, complete tow
and join the show. Cheers, Julie, that's not nice. Get

(02:04:17):
in touch, Marcus. Till twelve Ai, as it changed your life.
I scared about your job? What about Costco? What about
the supermarkets? Ah and bananas? That's everything for tonight. You
might want to combine the three. Could you buy banana
at Costcos? You'd ask chet Ai to find out if
you could. Actually that would be the combination of those things.

(02:04:37):
Dan can you tell them. Ai'll see if you can
buy bana from costcos. That's me combining the three calls myself.
I've just done that from my topic. I do your
one Clack Galaxy or Infinity or your special one Gemini.
Why it's called Gemini something to do with twins. Now,
don't make me talk all this hour to myself, because honestly,

(02:04:59):
I will inflict AI generated phone calls on you. Marcus.
I don't ever banana stew, but I love them. I've
just taken a batch of banana muffins out of the
oven at Yum yum. Who doesn't love banana cake? Who
doesn't love carrot cake? Marcus? Interesting, the banana is a
berry and a banana plant is a herb. I think

(02:05:21):
that's true. I think when you start looking at fruits,
none of them are ready fruits. Are all berries or
grasses or drupes. That always freaks me out. Well, the
seeds are on the outside. I don't even think it's strawberry.
Most things they call fruits aren't fruits. It all comes
down to kind of scientific pointiness. Eleven seventeen. As I've said,

(02:05:46):
do get in touch. By the way, I won't be
buying playing the banana song. Yes, you can buy bananas
at Costco. They are a common nighte in the fresh
produce section of most Costco warehouses. A few things to
note about buying bananas at Costco. Like most things at Costco,
banana a salda in bulk, you're typically find a large

(02:06:06):
bag around about one points three six kilograms. The rightness
of the bananas can vary. Sometimes they are sold slightly.
It's right, which is a good thing if for buying
a large bunch and want them to last longer. And
this is availability. It says, while bananas are a staple,
Comma Dan, what does it say after comma? Does it cut short?

(02:06:29):
What does it say something after availability? While bananas are
a staple commrace it words after that, it's always good
to check with your local Costco or warehouse for availability.
There we go, no fine eighteen past eleven. I should
have done it myself because I never got the ability.
Though I don't really want to be a slave to Ai.

(02:06:50):
Now said, I've become a slave to Dan asking him
to do everything terrible. How do we know that Dan's
not Ai? I never see him. They could have replaced
him years ago I'd be none the wiser. What else
can I tell you? Come on people for board. We
like me up for the end of the show. What's
of interest happening for you? Bananas? We are What was

(02:07:11):
all the fuss about Taylor swift engagement? I mean, not
always going to I didn't even read this. Did it
break the internet?

Speaker 11 (02:07:16):
Dan?

Speaker 3 (02:07:19):
A lot of memes about it, I think or memis
So that was a lot of memes about it. Has
Trump commented? Trump has said he's a great guy. She's
a wonderful person. He's keen on getting to heaven. Trump
is a knee. It's kind of changed his tune with

(02:07:41):
some things. She wore a four hundred dollars Ralph Lorreene
striped sundress and her engagement sold out in twenty minutes.
She had a thirty thousand dollars Cartier watch and her
ring is of an old fashioned type. So there we go.

(02:08:03):
And that's about all I know about that. So that's happening,
And yeah, who knows. Anyway, As I say, twenty past, deef,
you want to be part of the show. If there's
something different you want to talk about. It's been Ai
and Costco and Bananas tonight. Not much about bananas. To

(02:08:23):
be fair, don't understand Ai, but I love bananas whenever
a more true text has been sent in Pete. I
appreciate that, Peter. But what I don't like about bananas,
I don't like their bland flavor, their lack of symmetry.
I think we've all had bad experiences with the banana

(02:08:45):
and the school bag that's gone rogue, So it's not
the ideal fruit. But I probably probably won a Fortnite.
Have I got an interesting banana story. I like a
banana cake. I know in Australia they're made about banana bread.
You quite of forgot of a cafe they already having
banana bread, which is like banana cake, but slightly sweeter.
I think I once caught a fish on a banana

(02:09:10):
off Devonport and a dinghy. There was no fishing line,
so I just tied some nylon around a banana and
that was quite successful. It was ironic because I say
you shouldn't take banana fishing, but I did and I
caught a fish on it. Anyway, twenty one past eleven.
If you want to be a part of the show,

(02:09:31):
do come through. Oh eight hundred and eighty taty and
nine nine to text and something different you want to mention.
I'm sure I can embrace that, but mainly it's Ai, Kirsty,
it's Marcus. Welcome, Good evening, Good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 14 (02:09:46):
I was wanting to talk to you about Ai. I
don't have a lot of knowledge on and I haven't
really got up to date with it. But I've got
two children at high school at the moment, and a
son that's just finished last year university. And I do
believe that Jade and my son sent through to me
earlier today and a new talk they'd be, you know,

(02:10:07):
the replay the podcast or whatever it is of an
interview with Lincoln University, because they have made an entire
class of Master's finance. I think it was a finance paper,
must have been coding or something reset orally a test
because they had too many people that were they have

(02:10:28):
sound to her USDAYI. So they've asked them to go
and prove verbally what they did and how they did it.
So that's interesting that a.

Speaker 3 (02:10:37):
Lot of fair thing around for Lincoln. Was your son
one of those ones involved?

Speaker 14 (02:10:41):
No, No, he finished last year. So but he said
that AOI had its place. Now, this is what I
wanted to talk about. My daughters, the one that's seventeen,
she's in year twelve. So that's the old sixth form
for those who are not quite sure.

Speaker 3 (02:10:53):
I've had no idea about the years.

Speaker 14 (02:10:56):
Yeah, I forget people like that, especially some of the
older listeners.

Speaker 3 (02:10:59):
Thanks for much.

Speaker 14 (02:11:00):
She had last year, she had teachers that had said
to her, look, you know, chat GPT can be a
very good aid if you need it. But the big
thing that concerns me at the moment. She came to
me yesterday and she said she's been I think it's
drama and she's got to do script writing or something.
And so she goes in, right, she's always concerned. You
do these put everything into some program to check for

(02:11:24):
AI and to check for copying and things like that,
which is something that the teachers will do with their
mark et cetera, which is fair enough. And she said,
nue I wrote something and she said it came up
as fifty percent AI, and she said it was all.

Speaker 8 (02:11:37):
My own work.

Speaker 15 (02:11:39):
Wow, isn't that incredible?

Speaker 3 (02:11:42):
Can you believe her?

Speaker 8 (02:11:44):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (02:11:44):
One d persidious as Oh, look she is very fastidious.
I've just been to a speech competition last night and
she did a speech on Parlatt tall poty syndrome, you know,
whether he was shot down in flames kind of thing, and.

Speaker 8 (02:11:59):
It was amazing speed, wow, it.

Speaker 14 (02:12:01):
Was such a good speech and some of the things
she'd written it sensation was like some of the lines,
I thought, where did they come from? And they were
all her own work. And no, unfortunately there was only
one winner, and they didn't even put second and third,
and I think.

Speaker 3 (02:12:19):
Clearly, clearly, clearly she was the winner, as she's doing.

Speaker 23 (02:12:24):
Marcus.

Speaker 14 (02:12:24):
I told her that, and I actually even think both
girls because my youngest son who's year nine, which is
third form, she was also in a competition and whose
speech was the year nine were told they had to
do something on like New Zealand history or something, and
she did because her granddad was a parliamentary and she
did good speech, not not boring or anything on you know,
the history of parliament and m m P and quite

(02:12:46):
a nicely speech.

Speaker 8 (02:12:47):
But there was only two.

Speaker 14 (02:12:50):
No, I wasn't it actually wasn't.

Speaker 16 (02:12:51):
It was.

Speaker 3 (02:12:53):
What was the winning speech? Kursday? What was the winning speech?
And I'll be the judge that wasn't.

Speaker 14 (02:12:57):
Okay, Well, the speech was that they put poems in
the speeches and they're really yep, Like.

Speaker 3 (02:13:03):
You can't compare a poem to a speech.

Speaker 14 (02:13:07):
Well, someone writes a poem and states it, so it's
like a it's like a monologue.

Speaker 3 (02:13:12):
Really, it's like an acting.

Speaker 28 (02:13:15):
It's right.

Speaker 14 (02:13:16):
I was happy, We enjoyed a lovely evening listening to them.
But it's just interesting that they are told to check
and to check their own work. And I could not
believe it, and I do honestly, I know you are.
Do I believe it? Of course I actually do genuinely,
and I'm a teacher myself, So it's very interesting that

(02:13:37):
this is happening, that they are checking. And she come
to me, she said, Mom, it's come up as fifty
percent AI. She said, I'm not even part way through.
Isn't that interesting?

Speaker 3 (02:13:47):
So yeah, I wouldn't know anything about that. But that
does sound a concern, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (02:13:51):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (02:13:52):
Well, the thing is how, I mean, if the teachers
go and check it. Okay, if you write something, I mean,
you you know how you have to fact check the
internet and things like that. But this is a whole
new thing. People are having to check for AI and
when okay, what happens is she's gone and written an essay,
for example, and it's all her own work, genuinely, and

(02:14:12):
then she puts it through the AI checker and it
comes up, say seventy percent. I think what happens is
even common phases and common buzzwords are picked out, and
when you're writing something, if there is a buzzword that's
around society all the time, I would suppose that's going
to keep coming up. So I don't know about it.

Speaker 3 (02:14:32):
They have changed the sort of homework that getting kids
to do, I think, or or get rid of homework
and just stuff in class, because clearly it's going to
be gamed and scammed, isn't it.

Speaker 17 (02:14:41):
Well.

Speaker 14 (02:14:42):
I've never been a fan of homework myself, neither as
a teacher. I hardly ever set.

Speaker 3 (02:14:49):
It to the parents that want it, though, because I
think the kids are going to fall behind.

Speaker 23 (02:14:55):
I know.

Speaker 14 (02:14:55):
And also, of course we got into a culture at
COVID times where people did have to work from home.
But I think, you know, I mean, she's a very well,
both of them are very hard workers. They do work
on their own schedules, doing stuff at home voluntarily, and
a lot of kids do. People often complain about the
attitudes of youth nowadays. But a lot of these kids

(02:15:18):
that are in high school are really genuinely working very hard.

Speaker 3 (02:15:21):
Yeah, I've got no problem with the kids, Cursty. The
kids are great. I'm going to run cursty. But lovely
to talk. Thank you, Malcolm. It's Marcus.

Speaker 14 (02:15:27):
Welcome Oho, Marcus.

Speaker 16 (02:15:30):
You seemed a bit lowly, so I thought i'd give.

Speaker 25 (02:15:34):
You a call.

Speaker 16 (02:15:37):
Really bananas, Well, we have got bananas quite successfully in
East Talk in the past. And also banana patient fruit.
I know there's no direct coal correlation, but yeah that's

(02:15:58):
a contribution.

Speaker 3 (02:15:59):
Oh great things a banana patian fruit. But it's a
noxious weed. But what a great noxious weed to have
so delicious.

Speaker 17 (02:16:06):
Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 3 (02:16:09):
Nice t hear from you, Malcolm.

Speaker 8 (02:16:10):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:16:10):
Twenty seven past eleven, heead on midnight. Greetings, Welcome. What
are the towns called Pointer Inland? There you go? What
are the points? Are funnily named? Get your texts through
people and anything goes for the final half, Marcus, I
worked at this as a good text. I worked at

(02:16:33):
a bananaf factor in Equador back in the nineteen eighties.
During my Most of the world's bananas come from Ecuador.
I was doing quality control. It's not It's just a joke.
Not every good one either. A nice sandwich, fresh bread,
strawberry jam, and a banana great banana split, split your

(02:16:54):
right banana and dip and pancake better cooked, all golden,
then straight into cinnamon, sugar, three scrips of ice creams
another strawberry and chocolate on the top. Wow, says carrying
your uncle. What does that mean? Marcus? Have you covered this?
Only restitution and apes? Always peel bananas from the blunt
he unlike human to open the stalk side. Thank you.

(02:17:18):
I make banana bread, but add rawdized apples to the
mix to change the texture. Easy to make and get
rid of old fruit. If you're peel banana from the
tailien as a monkey, as you get less stringy bits. Oh,
I enjoy your text, Chris, Thank you free good Marcus.

(02:17:41):
I was wondering, is the reason I have to change
to a four G phone? Any relationship with the attraction
of AI. If I don't change the four G I
can't make phone calls. It's a strange monopoly. I don't
I'm not good on four G boars. Yes, I shouldn't
act bores me. I don't really understand it. I've never
understood the g's one G, two G, three G, four G,
five G. It's not for me six G E live

(02:18:07):
in thirty exactly. Ray, this is Marcus. Welcome and good evening.

Speaker 8 (02:18:14):
Hello.

Speaker 3 (02:18:15):
Hi, right, well tell you about good Thank you.

Speaker 8 (02:18:17):
Ray, thank you. Now I'm phoning up about macular degeneration. Now,
this is something you get when you've got diabetes, or
when you haven't got the diabetes, and when you get old,
and what happens is you become blind and worse, it

(02:18:41):
might affect you and you go along and try and
get some help and they tell you, oh, side makes
you're too late. If you'd come a year ago, we
could have saved your sight. So I'm in the fortunate

(02:19:01):
situation that I were able to go and get my
eyes tested and they did that, and then they sent
me off to the hospital and the hospital said, oh,
we've got to stick pins in your eyes and treat it.
So that's what they did. So it's okay, it's under
control and there's no problem that everybody I was seeing

(02:19:27):
of Harry actually, who's phone who have purpose so often
and is blind, and maybe he didn't jump on the
situationally enough. Oh yeah, right, now that's the first thing.

Speaker 3 (02:19:49):
This is very interesting. Thank you for that.

Speaker 8 (02:19:52):
Yeah. Now the next one is the railways. As we
know that steam railways with a steam engine almost two
hundred years old. Didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (02:20:08):
I thought they'd be longer.

Speaker 8 (02:20:11):
No, no, no, no, no. I think it about the
twenty seventh of September eighteen whatever twenty five, and it
was a Stockton Darrington railway or something, because they decided
they were going to start towing their wagons of coal

(02:20:36):
by steam.

Speaker 3 (02:20:38):
So are you talking about are you talking about twenty
years old in New Zealand?

Speaker 8 (02:20:44):
No, I'm talking about two hundred years old in the world.
And it seems to me that the greatest invention between
the invention of the printing press and the Internet is
the Valway steam railway.

Speaker 3 (02:21:05):
You are completely right. The first public steam railway, Stockland
and Darlington Railway September twenty seventh. Put that in the
diary down eighteen twenty five.

Speaker 8 (02:21:16):
Yeah, eighteen twenty five down. Yeah, I mean it is amazing.
It transformed our world.

Speaker 29 (02:21:25):
Yes, and it gave us steam powered ships. Yes, you know,
when you think about it, New Zealand was discovered by
people who were idiots and sailing sailing ships. Yes, and

(02:21:49):
then then suddenly we got steamships an even bigger idiot
cut the PanAm our canal. Yes, yeah, I mean all
these things you see in those days, the account hadn't
been invented.

Speaker 3 (02:22:10):
Yeah, you've got the other topics.

Speaker 8 (02:22:13):
No, no, no, no, those there are two major ones,
the major ones.

Speaker 3 (02:22:20):
What you're saying is the regular eye chicks, they'll find
your degeneration. That that's your warning, isn't it. Oh yeah,
it's an important point.

Speaker 8 (02:22:28):
It's it's you. You go to the optician, you get
your eyes tested, and they should then get you tested
for macular degeneration.

Speaker 3 (02:22:43):
And what was the cure they did to you? Said?
The stuff pins in your eyes? What was there doing?

Speaker 8 (02:22:48):
Oh, they've got it. They've got some liquid or another
that they pour into your eyes and then sort of
fixes it or okay.

Speaker 3 (02:22:56):
So because with a word like mechura degeneration, you wouldn't
think it was curable.

Speaker 8 (02:23:04):
It ain'ts that's the whole point.

Speaker 3 (02:23:06):
But I thought you said, you got saved with yours
They put it and then you're good to go.

Speaker 8 (02:23:09):
Here you've you've got to catch it early.

Speaker 3 (02:23:13):
Yes, but if you catch it earlier, it's reversible.

Speaker 8 (02:23:17):
Exactly, or maybe it's not reversible, but it stopped at
that point.

Speaker 3 (02:23:24):
Okay, understand, Okay, appreciate that. Ray, thank you, and thank
for the heads up on the railways. We'll do a
special show in September twenty fifth. It's probably a weekend.
I'm not gonna be two hours about steam trains, four
hours about steam trains. We'll talk about We'll talk about
trains in general, because I can't imagine there was trains
before steam trains, although a train is just a connection

(02:23:47):
of things or a number of things joined together. Greetings
people of New Zealand. This is an announcement. I'm here
till twelve. Terms along at twelve until then, if you
want to talk, great After then, if you want to talk,
great also. It'd be nice to hear from in the
fine or go around tonight the supermarket, Jiwopoli and Costco.

(02:24:11):
No one's quite sure why there aren't more cost Cos,
but I think it was that straightforward from opening up
the first one. But we need more of them. I
think people love them. Bearing in mind too, I think
this summer we get Ikea and I can tell you
now there's going to be headlines because when Ikea opens

(02:24:32):
at Sylvia Park, the Auckland transport system is going to
come to a standstill. We had Manawa Bay when that
open that was a disaster. That's not as bad as
it's going to be when Ikea opens, It's not a
bad thing. People get used to it. So that's going
to happen. That's going to be early next year. And
the rail loop. It's going to be a big year
for Auckland twenty twenty six. Oh apart from all the

(02:24:54):
bad stuff that's happening there. But yep, that's then. So
while we're mentioning that, oh yes, because Costco should open
in the south Side, that's what they need to have
happened there. Also we're discussing check GPT or artificial intelligence
and the bananas. If you want to got anything interesting

(02:25:18):
to say about bananas, then I think you're on the show.
This is the right show for you. Bananas. It would
be nice to hear from you if you want to
talk about that. Also, I've always looked up always to
think about bananas and the first fact they always say

(02:25:39):
it's not a fruit. Well I think they are a
fruit because we call them a fruit. They are a fruit,
and they are the fruit. It's not a tree, it's
a herb. So that's of interest. Two things you can
use a banana for. You can put one on a
splinter to help loosen the foreign fragment in the skin

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and heal the wound. And to stop a scratch DVD
or CD from skipping, rubbing a banana peel can fill
the scratches without damaging the plastic finish pretty good. So
that's of interest for me to you. That's bananas. There's

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also speculation that the forbidden fruit consumedery Adam and Eve
in the Garden of Eden was an apple. Other thing.
It may be a figure of pomegranate. There is speculation
it may have been a banana. So there we go. Anyway,
that's about what I've got about bananas at the stage.
But if you want to talk about bananas or chat
or anything else, Marcus, thank you for your talk back

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with your callers listeners. The G and two G, three
G and four G stands for generation, so denote the
major change innovation with each iteration. This is for good information.
Thank you for this. This is kind as a pot
in history. Two G introduced digital voice and that's text messaging.

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Three G is when mobile internet teakoff took off. Think
of the Refirst iPhone. Four G brought about high speed
data for streaming, but also four G voice and Wi
Fi calling. Five G, where we are currently offers high
performance in low latency or delay for extremely high data

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speeds and increased security. Enough is my phone four G
or five G?

Speaker 11 (02:27:39):
Dan?

Speaker 3 (02:27:42):
It depends on my provider. Can I kick a button
and telephs? Five G officers high performance I latency, high
data speeds at chresse security to your call? Has mentioned
of whether there's a sext between AI and has able
been able to use four G? There is none at
all in the two are separate topics. Hope this helps
Ash in London, free kind Ash, Thank you for that

(02:28:07):
better than I could imagine. Actually, good on here, bananas
and four G five G surprise, I had the banana,
so I forgot about catching the fish on the banana.
My logs all gone blank, den my log with my

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eads and stuff?

Speaker 2 (02:28:29):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (02:28:30):
We yoursed to nothing on it? Good evening, Gareth, this
is Marcus. Welcome Marcus.

Speaker 23 (02:28:38):
How are you good?

Speaker 3 (02:28:39):
Gareth?

Speaker 14 (02:28:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (02:28:41):
Bananas yeah, when I was young, I used to eat bananas.
I'm fifty two.

Speaker 15 (02:28:52):
And I used to eat.

Speaker 23 (02:28:53):
I'll come home after school and fresh white bread. And
my mother always got bananas and nose had three bananas
sandwhich is no butter. Didn't like dairy products.

Speaker 17 (02:29:06):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (02:29:06):
And would you wrap it like a hot dog or
would you smooth it out and have two bits of bread?
I used to smush it, yes, good word.

Speaker 23 (02:29:14):
I didn't like the slice slice it into little circles.
I used to like to just smash it into the.

Speaker 3 (02:29:20):
Yeah, one banana, purer sandwich.

Speaker 23 (02:29:24):
I would take. Actually, let me think, Yeah, there was
one banana, and I'd slice the banana into three pieces,
and that would be like the freshness and the goodness of.

Speaker 3 (02:29:34):
The great great and that would give three sandwiches. Would
be one banana cut of third to third per sandwich.

Speaker 8 (02:29:40):
Great.

Speaker 23 (02:29:42):
Yeah, but bananas.

Speaker 2 (02:29:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:29:45):
Would you put me sometimes I in a banana sandwich,
I'll put pepper on it.

Speaker 23 (02:29:49):
No, no, I do that now. So like, I've spent
a lot of time living in Japan, so my taste
has kind of changed.

Speaker 3 (02:30:00):
I don't think banana's big in Japan, not really.

Speaker 23 (02:30:04):
I don't think I ever had banana over there. But
I remember the bread. Okay, the bread is shockingly bad
in Japan.

Speaker 29 (02:30:12):
Is it.

Speaker 23 (02:30:13):
Yeah, it's not like good New Zealand bread. I worked
as a tour guide for seven years when I was
a young man, and I remember meeting a nutrition nutrition expert,
an experts in grains and all that sort of thing
from America, and she came to New Zealand. She's one

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of one of my clients, and she said, even the
white bread in New Zealand is good. It's not like
in America. And we know that American food as rubbish
for various reasons. That the bread in Japan is sweetened.
It looks good, but it's not as good as New
Zealand bread.

Speaker 3 (02:30:54):
What are the bananas?

Speaker 14 (02:30:55):
Like the bananas?

Speaker 23 (02:30:58):
I'm pretty sure I didn't eat a banana in Japan,
So what's that?

Speaker 3 (02:31:05):
It's an interesting fake, doesn't it.

Speaker 23 (02:31:07):
Mm hmm yeah yeah yeah with the head I quite
like in Japan, I like Nashi.

Speaker 3 (02:31:15):
You know Nashi, Yes, I know Nashi.

Speaker 23 (02:31:17):
Yeah, Nashi. That you don't get good Nashi in New Zealand.

Speaker 18 (02:31:21):
I tried.

Speaker 3 (02:31:21):
There can be a bit woody, just uh.

Speaker 23 (02:31:26):
No guts, there's just no. But the nashi in Japan
weren't big, and they always cut them into slices and
eat them with toothpicks, and they're very, very big.

Speaker 3 (02:31:41):
Oh okay, I appreciate you coming through. Geth We've got
two breaks to go one day and I can't see
the too. Hold your horses, Chris, Kreme, Toby. I'll be
with you in two texts. Let me just get these
heads the other way if they there's just something's but
a bit freaked out with the computer. I'm pretty sure
it's going to be okay, good evening, Chris. This is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 10 (02:32:01):
Oh, good evening, Marcus. Bananas. Yeah, but concerned about you
putting pepper on your bananas?

Speaker 3 (02:32:09):
Try it on.

Speaker 10 (02:32:12):
I'll try a little bit.

Speaker 3 (02:32:13):
Yeah, don't be concerned about me. Just you don't worry
about me and my condiments. I'll do pepper if I
want to.

Speaker 16 (02:32:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:32:19):
I think I think we should feel comfortable to share
our works without being judged. But anyway, thank.

Speaker 10 (02:32:24):
You, yes, right, my stomach with Oh anyway, all bananas
are created equally. Are they the best ones?

Speaker 23 (02:32:32):
Really?

Speaker 10 (02:32:32):
A little bunches of Filipino bananas?

Speaker 15 (02:32:35):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (02:32:35):
Yes, yes, they taste like bananas.

Speaker 14 (02:32:38):
A lot of them.

Speaker 10 (02:32:39):
Don't they taste soapy?

Speaker 8 (02:32:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (02:32:42):
But we have in dnedan botanic gardened glass house bananas
growing and they usually green. When I see them, I
talk to the gardener and said, will you work hard,
you'll get reaped the benefits when the bananas are right.
And the gardener said, no, the the visitors steal the bananas.

Speaker 3 (02:33:04):
Really, I'll be students.

Speaker 10 (02:33:07):
Yeah, so their little finger bananas and there.

Speaker 3 (02:33:10):
They're delicious though they grow right in ork and those
ones who almost look triangular with their cross section, but
they're delicious. They've got a much nicer flavor.

Speaker 10 (02:33:17):
Yeah, tropical bananas like I've been in Fiji and they're
growing outside. We were slept and they're just a little
tiny short bananas. They're not actually bent.

Speaker 3 (02:33:27):
No, they're not long enough to be. They're beautiful.

Speaker 10 (02:33:31):
No, But when we were kids, we used to play
tricks with bananas and get a big long needle and
stick it through the banana and you could slice the
banana into segments all the way through, wiggling the pin
from one side to the other, and then the person
that peeled or sibling would peel the banana and it would.

Speaker 3 (02:33:48):
But you'd find a black spot to put the needle
through and no one would notice. Yes, I have done that. Yes,
free good Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:33:56):
So yeah. So I'm gonna say, if I were a
potessium and I have one every day, I kind of
I'm going hiking, there's always a banana and my back.

Speaker 3 (02:34:07):
Have you got a banana cakese? Remember they were a
big thing for a while, those plastic banana protectors. Banana cake,
a banana protector. They're a plastic thing that you put
the banana inside because they often they can get damaged
if you're tramping. But your banana protector was quite good,
but excess weight.

Speaker 10 (02:34:24):
I would just have it on the outside pocket clicking out. Yeah,
but I never had any of those food protectors, the
one shaped like a tomato or a banana or anvocanote.

Speaker 3 (02:34:36):
No, try the pepper, Chris and get back to me.
Corey Marcus welcome. Hey, how a good Corey.

Speaker 15 (02:34:44):
That's good.

Speaker 21 (02:34:44):
Gosh.

Speaker 15 (02:34:44):
If you I'll just point out quickly, if you got
a dollar for every time somebody said banana tonight, you'd
be well, yes, oh no, it's crazy. I don't think of'
I think that's what I'm hearing's just banana, banana banana.

Speaker 3 (02:35:01):
Well, sometimes at the end of the night, the shows
can go that they can give every bananay right at
the end.

Speaker 11 (02:35:07):
Why not? Why not?

Speaker 15 (02:35:08):
I'm here for it. Yeah, I was bringing in regards
to chat GPT. Yes, so I only use I only
use it. I only use the one app, being the
chat GPT app. Pay the premium subscription about forty dollars
a month. I have two businesses, and I'd say that

(02:35:38):
chet GPT has literally helped me get to the point
where I'm just about to move into full time self employment.

Speaker 3 (02:35:48):
What's your business?

Speaker 13 (02:35:48):
It's about?

Speaker 15 (02:35:50):
So we've got a cleaning business and we've got a
bouncy castical business. I've used it to prepare so many
different documents, both you know, for customers and legal stuff.
And yeah, like somebody mentioned earliter on you kind of

(02:36:11):
just get a generic.

Speaker 13 (02:36:14):
Response.

Speaker 15 (02:36:15):
But there's there's quite a few different tools you can
look into now where they teach you how to hone
in on. I guess what results you're looking for.

Speaker 3 (02:36:28):
Really, I've got to run some run at a time.
But I would love to talk more about that because
I do enjoy Yeah, that's what I would have the discussion.
I would have liked to have those people how it
works for your business, but maybe the other night. But
thank you for coming through. I appreciate that. Seven from
twelve Toby Marcus, welcome your kind of Toby.

Speaker 4 (02:36:51):
Now I had the same problem with the eye. Yeah, sure, yeah,
through diabetes. And what it does, the sugar, the sugar
uncontrolled separates the written from the eye.

Speaker 5 (02:37:07):
Okay, so you have a semi so you have a
semi detest written.

Speaker 4 (02:37:10):
And what they do at Green Lane is they pump
gas into it into your eye, which causes a cushion
and the cushion pushes up against the eyeball.

Speaker 3 (02:37:21):
I see and it was in my left eye.

Speaker 4 (02:37:23):
And then what happens.

Speaker 9 (02:37:24):
The dog has said to me, you won't be able
to see for the first couple of days, but then,
as the guest anticipates, your vision will slowly come back,
like it's like looking through a liverlin glass, a little
bubble at the top, and it just slowly works its
way down and then within about nine days you'll have
you know, you have a good sight against what was brilliant?

Speaker 3 (02:37:47):
What was the wordy is Toby? The guess what?

Speaker 4 (02:37:52):
Oh the pumper gets into the eye that they.

Speaker 3 (02:37:57):
Did They said, did you see the get won't work
straight away, but the guess something to debate or what
did you say?

Speaker 6 (02:38:03):
Dissipates?

Speaker 3 (02:38:04):
Oh, dissipate. I see what you're saying, of course, okay,
And is that a permanent fix for you? Is it
a permanent fixed Toby? Yes, Oh brilliant.

Speaker 4 (02:38:13):
And so having sety percent or vision in my list,
sides come back to about ninety five percent.

Speaker 3 (02:38:20):
Oh wow, that's a great story in the show on Toby. Thanks,
that's a good explanation as well. That's it for me.
Sorry about the shaky start tonight. Guys, did my best,
did everything I could, but I wasn't gonna play the
pre record didn't feel honest. I'll be back back.

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