The size of a man's leg (25 Sep 2025)

Tonight Marcus chatted with callers about the new dog tethering laws and eels! We love an animal show.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
A't be Oh welcome, good evening. It's Marcus here. I
hope it's good where you are at seven past eight.
I'll be with you till twelve o'clock tonight. No surprise
is there. That's what I do. So yeah, be in touch,
be involved, get and get in if you want to
feel free. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and

(00:31):
nine two nine two to text hit twelve o'clock romance
at twelve listening to the radio not our station today
and someone said it was a music station, and the
announcer was saying things to look forward to in the weekend,
things to look forward to doing the weekend daylight saving.
I thought, well, actually, could you look forward to daylight

(00:52):
save for the actual event as you lose an hour?
So I wasn't quite sure what that was about, because
read daylight saving, the actual saving of the daylight doesn't
really kick in and all I suppose it kicks until
Sunday evening, doesn't it, But the actual movement of the well,
I wasn't sure about that. Continue you mystified by daylight sayings?

(01:13):
I love it to pieces, but just wish it went
all year. That's my rate rent on that one. But yeah,
by the way, too, you want to get your smoke
alarms check, this is the time they te it kind
of incentivize you to do that. So I'm not up
to scratch with smoke arms. But what I do know

(01:37):
is that if you get the ones that last for
ten or fifteen years, slightly priced, but I think probably
it works out better than the long rue because then
they don't run out of batteries as often, because that's
the hassle. When they ran out of batteries and you
don't replace them, you won't have something to say about
that there are good ones you can just stick to
the roof. Also don't involve you to actually be drilling

(02:00):
at height, which is always frustrating. So yes there is.
And then I suppose you could say there is a
situation with daylight savings is something to look forward to
in the weekend. By the way, that damn open too.
You might talk about that the tea way, heka t way,
hecky order damn. The first of three plan to help

(02:24):
Northland didn't even do any research to work out where
in fact that was I look at it a Google Earth.
You know, I do get in touch you. What talk
about that? What I do want to start talking about
tonight is tethering. Yeah, prolonged tethering. That's a new thing.

(02:49):
Well it's not a new thing, it's an old thing.
But now they've got the powers to do something about it.
I don't know what your experiences are about prolonged tethering.
This is for dogs. I wouldn't mind knowing if you're
a dog owner, or if you're someone that lives next
to doors a dog's how this affects you. Are you
someone that's been a bit of a concerned neighbor and

(03:10):
have been endlessly trying to get hold of councils or
the spcaa to do something about neighborhood dogs. We haven't
talked about dogs for a long, long while. I'll be
concerned and curious to know what it's like for you
at the moment. So what it does. It gives the
SPCA and the council more scope not to seize animals.
That doesn't change. But there's fines five hundred dollars are

(03:35):
a caught fight of fifteen hundred dollars yep, So you
can't tear your dog for a long time. It's slightly
more complicated than that. It's now an in fence, a
fence to tether a dog if two or more signs

(03:56):
are present worn ground excrement, build up, locked collars or chains,
injuries from the tether fly strike, or signs of frustration
such as constant barking or pacing. And vulnerable dogs includes
puppies under six months, dogs and eat, dogs in the
final trimester of pregnancy, and dogs and labor or nursing.

(04:19):
So yeah, it's a very serious topic. But I know
that we take well. Everyone obviously takes the welfare of
dogs for every seriously one would hope. So these laws
have changed. They never had the powers to do anything
about that. And obviously too, we all know that there's
dogs that's tied up the whole time. It's terrible. So
if you do want to talk about that, the veterinarians

(04:39):
are thrilled about it, says they represent progress for New
Zealand and reinforce our collective responsibility to the welfare of dogs.
So the vet Associations worked with the rigs, with the
SPCAA and the Ministry of Primary Industries to provide venom
put ensuring the rules are practical, workable, and improved dog welfare.

(05:03):
So it's up to the animal welfare inspecters that can
now eschue these fines when owners fail to comply. There
is not going to solve every case over night, but
it's another extra tool in the toolwoks addressing a very
widespread issue.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Seez.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
I think we all know that people buy dogs with
well meaning intent, but then in fact the dogs get
locked up in the backyard off and tied up forever
and bark and bark and bark. Are you a dog
owner or a neighbor of a dog owner do you
think this is going to provide any relief? Let me
know about that. We kind of curious to hear your
thoughts on this one. Oh WEA eight one hundred and

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eighty ten eighty and nine to nine two to text.
I think we all know have dogs that are actually
tied up the whole time too, and how bad that is?
So yeah, and also bad for neighbors with the noise.
I mean, it's not the worst thing, but the noise
is frustrating, is all he got. If you want to
comment on, they'd be great to hear from you. So
dogs and tethering, prolonged tethering. It's now something that's not

(06:04):
going to happen. One would hope, excuse me, get in
touch you on a common and i'd like to hear
your start on that. One'd be good to hear from you. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty. It's all about dogs for the night,
for the start of the night and prolonged tethering. By
the way, that dan that opened is just in Tikolpru
and south of Dargaville. Didn't know there was a shortage

(06:27):
of water there. By the way, there's this social media
uproar about the way a butcher's stored their meat. Well,
as long as it followed food safety, sure they should
have been able to do that anyway, So someone's been
spying with their cell phone. They was stored on that

(06:49):
for fifteen minutes in a trolley. So you're gotta be careful.
Now everyone's got a fine taking shots taking shots. Get
in touch Marcus till twelve oh, eight hundred and eighty,
ten eighty. It's dog tethering. If you want to talk
about daylight savings, you are more than welcome. Anything goes.
Whatever you've got here Till twelve. Dog tethering and daylight
saving ZA always a pretty big topic for me. I'm

(07:11):
obsessed with it. I don't say something i'd look forward
to the actual day of it, because nothing much happens. Diana,
it's Marcus, welcome, good evening.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
Yeah, Marcus. Yes, I'm not really fussed on daylight saving
starving so early, because we've had frosts right up till
last week, and it might have been seeing them heading
there this week, but we have been just still having
frosts and they'll be black in the morning when you

(07:42):
get up at dark. I don't know whether you like that,
but I don't like it. What time are you getting
out so labor weekends soon enough for it to start, I.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Don't think it's any early. What time are you getting up?

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Well, our electricity goes off, of course they're doing lines here,
so last three, not six o'clock or six thirty.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Do you know what time the sun rises to our
tomorrow on Amadu.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
I wouldn't have clue. Never guess, Oh, which rises at
the same time everywhere? No it doesn't, doesn't it. No,
I'm ignorant for that. Then you can tell me.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
It rises at six eighteen Oh really, so on Monday morning,
it'll be about seven fifteen. Yes, we're too badly you've
got a paper run.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
I think that it should be. It did originally start later,
but they put it back to.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
September years if they prolonger.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Because it's so successful, they made it longer. I would
like it to go all year.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Well that's the way I felt last year too, you do.
I felt that, But you know I've got another year older.
So I thought, oh no, I think you know, wait
till we get a bit more daylight, because we certainly.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
What number does your age start with?

Speaker 4 (09:20):
What number is that? Well, well let's go of nought
on the end.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (09:28):
And what's the other number?

Speaker 7 (09:32):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (09:32):
I beget letting everybody know my age?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
What what when you were born? Was it the nineteen
three or nineteen four or nineteen.

Speaker 8 (09:42):
Five War five?

Speaker 4 (09:45):
The end of their war?

Speaker 2 (09:46):
You were too, wren't you one of those?

Speaker 4 (09:48):
I had a photo of me in a pram and
my uncle uncle Phil just come back from the war.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Oh yeah, you'd be excited to see you, do you know?

Speaker 8 (10:00):
You do?

Speaker 2 (10:01):
You know you're on the way.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
I wouldn't have a tiller, wouldn't have a till Yeah,
I want to please. I do remember because you all
went down to Caroline You must have all went down
to Caroline Bay. Yeah, and what was it?

Speaker 2 (10:17):
What was it mean Caroline Bay?

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Well, that must have been where the celebration.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Wow, okay what the ships were coming into. Oh yeah,
they'd be a big they'd be a big. What a
gorgeous part of the country. That has done. I've got
to move on and see if I can get the
people people going nice to talk to you. That's where
away people. Oh eight hundred and eighty Teddy and nine
to nine two to text Marcus till twelve beck at
you if you do want to talk here till midnight tonight.
If you want to be a part of it, feel

(10:44):
free to come and as I say, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty and nine to nine two to text
to get in touch you want to be a part
of the show. Anything else you want to about, feel
free to get this. I don't want talk about dogs
in tenor because we always complained about dogs. Build it
tied up. This is this is I'm sure it's a
very very good thing. But yeah, if you've got an
opinion on that, and get in touch with me. Please

(11:04):
quick as it quick as you can, feel free to
come through eight eight dead ad keep those texts coming through. Also, people,
it's eighteen past eight twenty twenty eight twenty Doug it's Marcus. Welcome,
good evening.

Speaker 9 (11:20):
Hello, it's Dougie and Marcus. Good evening. Look, I've got
two sides to this dog thing now, the leash thing.
I'm in Foxer and you actually don't need to worry
about your house being guarded because anyone coming up with
my driveway I live in the back section, would think
that I had one hundred dogs because all the dogs
around all back and all the time, you see, so

(11:41):
it's quite loud, and some of them are leashed up
far too much, there's no doubt about that. All they
left in a very small place. But I got an
older dog. It was given to me, and she's lovely.
She's a lovely dog.

Speaker 10 (11:54):
You know.

Speaker 9 (11:54):
She's to sleep on the couch and I'm talking at
her now. But she hasn't got used to being in
the new property, and she tends to wander a little
bit if I day to go, you see. So I've
got her on a long rod with a chain on
the end of it, and she comes inside and goes
outside and wanders around the place and everything, and an
actual fact, when she has got offer, I usually see

(12:15):
her in the opposite section from my place, some sort
of looking dazed and where the hell am I sort
of thing, so I have to go over and get her.
But I just worry about her wandering off. So that's
why she was on the leaf. Sure, and she she
grizzles a bit if you live her outside well because
of a lot actually better inside as quickly as I
can now. There are some dogs in the area who
are barking and sound sound in a bad way actually,

(12:39):
but I feel like going over and giving them a pat,
or letting my dog, taking my dog over to them
and so forth. It's so bad. But but there are
there is there are two starts to it. And then
if I think about, you know, I think it would
be more dangerous for her to not be on on
the lease than on the leaks. And and she's not,
you know, she's not going to the end of it

(12:59):
and pulling on or anything like that. There's no, she's
not even aware of it half the time.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
But is she a property that's not fenced?

Speaker 9 (13:11):
Well, this is the troubles it is fens now. It
wasn't fenced when I first got her properly anyway, But
she could get over it, and she was she was
in a property alongside, and she used to try and
come over, but she was. She was that place had
a good enough fence and and there were enough people
there all the time for her not to get away.

(13:33):
But my place is so call on to half an acre,
basically spoke, and I mean she she has warned it off,
as I say, usually not very far. But she's an
old dog, you know, is it not?

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Is it not required for sections to be fenced where
dogs are?

Speaker 9 (13:50):
I thought it was, Well it is sensed it has fenced.
Said she wouldn't be able to get out, but.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
If the dog can get not if the dog can
get out there, to me, that would be that the
dog's not fenced.

Speaker 11 (14:01):
Right.

Speaker 9 (14:03):
Well, no, what it is is that one thing is
I mean she she can't get over the fence were
it's eight feet high. So there's eight feet foot fence
around the place, which her neighbor's put in. Basically they
didn't have that originally. It was only just a little
little wire thing which she got over quite easily. But
in the last year or so, they put in this

(14:25):
other fence, you know, with my approval, of course, but
they didn't what it's It's got a little hell at
the top and there the fence is only about four
feet high. Why they did that, I've got no idea.
It might be somebody who is running out of timber
or something. I've got no idea of it. But I
didn't complain because the fence was well done, and it
was I was so glad to see it done. Eventually,

(14:47):
took years to do it. But she can get out,
just see once is the place where she can get out.
She knows where it is. She's not silly.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
But where am I thinking goes? Is that because the
sections not adequately fenced, the dog's distant and now live
on a chain, which can't be that pleasant.

Speaker 9 (15:05):
Well, she doesn't mind. She doesn't mind at all. I mean,
it's only a technical offense in the sense that I mean,
we're really looking at cruelty here, aren't we. I mean,
that's the main thing is we don't want to be
cruelty the animal. Yeah, But because everyone ties dogs up
at some stage, and most of them, you know, put
up with it. They don't mind and then you let

(15:26):
them off in the morning sort of think, which is
what I wish used to do with my dog the
other dogs that I've had, this one knows. She's just
she's a lovely dog, but she's old and she's that's funny,
and I just worry about that she might wander off
and wander onto the road or something.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Is she inside much?

Speaker 9 (15:44):
You didn't so just a bit all the time?

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, okay, we'll talk more about this stage. I appreciate
you coming through. We are talking about a dog and
dog owners and the right things to do, and to
me that sounds I mean, I don't know. I thought
if you'd never beckyard with a dog on wander, it
wasn't with having a dog. You might want to comment
on that. Eight hundred and eighty thirty twenty six past
day talking about dogs and tethering. If you want to

(16:07):
comment on that, I'll be curious because I think no
dogs should really be tethered. Might be impractical. They said
that farm dogs probably can be providing they are exercised.
So yeah, the rules have changed about that. Someone has
texted me through and said trade should not tether their
dogs and direct sun with no water for eight hours
when working at a house. I wouldn't have many trades

(16:30):
that have dogs. Is that the thing? Not something I'm
aware of. I don't like daylight savings. You lose an
hour every day for six months. Crazy. Remember before daylight
savings was all good. We don't need it from mclvern.
Where's mcleovern daylight savings? Why can't they schedule to change
over for a long weekend, labor weekend perhaps Easter? What

(16:51):
difference would it make? Why would you need it in
a long weekend. I don't understand that. I mean, it's
not like it's not going to do anything for it
just happens. Are you saying because you lose an hour
it makes the weekend too short. That's what we're at
about tonight, people and that and dogs and tethering, permanent tethering.

(17:13):
No longer think thinks Garsie. There are the dogs are
even tethered, And that's me. I'm not a dog owner.
So you want to comment on that'd be nice to
hear from you. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty and
nine to nine two de text. I'll keep you up
to other use around the world and around the country.
The world first though, welcome, be in touch if you
want to talk. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty and

(17:36):
nine to nine two text looking forward to what you've
got to say? Yeah, half past eight Nina headlines, please
thank you, needed there we go. I can give you
all the words to people, the fullest avoids, updated are
as such cauzi, bro hapoo, lifestyler, lucks what does that mean?

(17:57):
More mor diener, rack rack up sweet as to climb into,
to deal to Trumbler, I know these words, I don't
know Trundler. Could someone explain Trundler to me? And I
don't really understand lux, which is the verb. Don't need

(18:22):
a better explanation of those people. It's very scant. What's
couzy bromine? I'll go to a better Lux might mean
to vacuum. If that's it, then that's not a problem. Oh,

(18:44):
it does mean to vacuum. It's been around forever, particularly
down south Trundler. Could someone explain Trundler to me? James,
it's Marcus welcome. Hello, Hi James, welcome, good evening.

Speaker 7 (19:03):
Is it me?

Speaker 12 (19:04):
Is it are you?

Speaker 2 (19:05):
James?

Speaker 12 (19:06):
Yeah, yes, James, Yes, I've been a carpet. I'm retired
now a cabin Vinyl and I've gone into roughly twelve
different houses every week to do my job. And the
amount of dogs that I've seen tethered, It's unbelievable. Some

(19:34):
of the things I've seen are absolutely abhorrent. And I've
run the SBSA on a number of casion occasions.

Speaker 10 (19:45):
I don't know what.

Speaker 12 (19:48):
The outcome was because I was the last one to
be in that house. And then of course the SPCA
two and so I know it's our firm, Thatt's run them. Yes, sure,
and I've seen I mean, I'm not going.

Speaker 13 (20:07):
To I'm not going.

Speaker 12 (20:09):
To be specific about it, but I've seen some absolutely
horrible things.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
With dog James, Yep. Why were those dogs tethered?

Speaker 12 (20:25):
Oh, just from ignorant owners.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Because there was no backyard, because and tethered inside or
outside outside, I presume outside.

Speaker 12 (20:34):
One dog was I was working in the has New
Zealand house in Palmerston and I looked out the upstairs
window and there was a dog in a in a
backyard that was long grass, car bodies and this thing
had a kennel with no roof, and it was on

(20:57):
a one meter chain and it was shivering and it
was a bit like a pitbull type dog. But bloody hell.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Mate, I would imagine James. I would have mentioned for
the majority of people, they get dogs with good and
tent and don't really get them to have them on
chains like that. That's what I can't get.

Speaker 12 (21:20):
This wasn't even a guard dog was stuck out the back.
It was skinny. You could see it's rigs. I could
see its roots from the Pupper story. But there's other
dogs that I've seen in Parua that have been chained
up on a two meter chain, covered and surrounded by

(21:45):
its own secs. And it's just, you know, if I
have a regret one regrets in my life, it would
not be ringing the STSA on counless occasions.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Although well James, well, James, Yeah. It seems to me
is that until this law has passed today, the SPCA
were powerless to do anything. It only seems as though
now the law has changed to make tethering.

Speaker 12 (22:19):
The law has changed, it's not going to make any
difference unless people speak up.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
But before what I'm saying before, with prolonged tethering, there's
nothing that the SPCA could do because it wasn't illegal.
Now there's a specific crime, so they can find the people.

Speaker 12 (22:37):
Yeh, thank goodness.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah so yeah, so so maybe you're a part of
that change that was coming.

Speaker 14 (22:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (22:45):
I've got a dog. I had another dog whose name
was Chopper. He lasted me seventeen years. He was a
good dog. I've got another one called Coder, and she
gets the best of everything. You know, it's not tied
up tethering an animal. I look upon it as how

(23:10):
would you like to be tied up with a rope
around your neck like a.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Swag get we get it, We get it, we get it.
Why is a dog called Coda?

Speaker 11 (23:18):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Why Coder?

Speaker 15 (23:22):
Coder?

Speaker 12 (23:22):
I don't know. I got here. She was about two
and a half.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Was she Coda when you got her?

Speaker 12 (23:30):
Yeah, she's a beautiful dog. I'm sitting here right in
front of me inside looking at me now, wondering what
her I'm talking to.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
She's not tethered, No, God.

Speaker 12 (23:41):
No, she's got free reign of the property.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
You sound very reasonable, James. It's all about tethering tonight.
It might be a but well, you know, light and dark.
We'll see where we go with tethering. Get in touch
if you want to talk about this Marcus. I think
all these words are just slang, not worthy of being

(24:06):
called English. I don't think that's quite right.

Speaker 13 (24:12):
Um.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
I think a lot of the words are probably.

Speaker 14 (24:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
No, I don't think they're they're slang. I don't think.
But get in touch. You want to talk. My name
is Marcus. Welcome. Oh wait, oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty and nine to nine two to text. Do
you want to be a part of the show. Wow,

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anything else you want to say? Get in touch. It's
twenty three away from nine o'clock because the breaking news
will bring that to you. Yeah, so let's be hearing
from your people. It's twenty two away from nine o'clock,
twenty away from nine markets. Marcus, welcome, Hi, thanks for

(25:06):
having please.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
I just chiy them in.

Speaker 16 (25:10):
A bit of the Tethered Dogs. But so I'm a
reasonably recent dog owner. I got my first puppy five
years ago, just after COVID, and he was fine. He
got him from a puppy and I sort of worked
with him too that he could be contained in the
house for the four hours at a time that I
would otherwise not would go, you know, get to work.

(25:34):
And there was there was okay, but one thing another
I got the second dog. What an a scape you know,
absolutely could not be contained escape tore open window frames,
smashed windows, ripped doors apart to get out. Once she
was out, she seemed okay. But and like I didn't

(25:56):
have the fence the section fully fenced at that point.
So clearly you can't have a dog that's going to
run around the street, especially dogs that go out hunting
for things. And one, well, one thing another basically this
second dog. Until I got the place fully secured, she
had to be on chain. Sort of accepted it for

(26:22):
a while, but after that she, you know, just like
putting out with him. I had to work very very
hard to secure the section so she could actually be
allowed to run free within the section.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Dog, you managed to achieve that, you managed to get
the section fenced.

Speaker 16 (26:39):
Yep, but not without a lot of effort.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Men, And the dog's quite happy. Is the dog still
so crazy running up and down the fence yepping? Or
the dogs quite quite relaxed now it knows that that's
just not going anywhere?

Speaker 17 (26:53):
Yep?

Speaker 10 (26:53):
Yep.

Speaker 16 (26:54):
She was a digger, this particular dog, you know, she
and once she's out, she doesn't seem seem to want
to go anywhere.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
But so what you're saying is, if what I've beaten
her there, I've managed to find your last exit points. Yeah,
but what you're saying is that you didn't know what
an escape as she was before you got her. If
your had, you would have got the fence for the
probably probably better fence exactly.

Speaker 16 (27:19):
I knew what I was, exactly what I'm sitting for,
but I was completely unprepared when I got my dog.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
So you're saying that's the chance for tethering is when
you don't don't quite know how full on the dog's
going to be.

Speaker 16 (27:32):
Well, if it's a matter of, you know, unavoidable situations
where you have to have the dog contained one way
or another, either in a crater or on a chain,
when you've suddenly got to do something and leave the
dog by itself.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, I think I think I'm not a dog owner,
But there's no mention of imagine crates are okay?

Speaker 11 (27:58):
Well, no, I no know.

Speaker 16 (27:59):
Same, Well I.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Look into that mark. Nice to hear from you, Robbie.

Speaker 14 (28:04):
Welcome a Marcus.

Speaker 10 (28:07):
How are you good?

Speaker 18 (28:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (28:09):
Good on you mate? You ring up when things sort
of annoy me and tethering a dog is probably the
worst thing you could ever do with a dog. I'm
a dog lover, obviously, I think I heard you say
you don't have dogs.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
No, we have a dog. We've got we've got a
proppery dog fence because we've got an unusual relationship with
a dog that when it's when it's when it's owner
cannot look after it, we have the dog.

Speaker 19 (28:36):
Then you understand, like years ago and gussy, when I
lived there, border property and well it's been that's like
the slang that they're trying to tell you about going

(28:58):
in the you know, Oxford Dictionary whatever. Anyway, all that
slang has been around for years. But I bought this
property and obviously it was fenced, but behind us was
a Housing Corp home or whatever it was. And now
there's two parts of the story. But I'm a dog lover,
have been forever. And we had a dog and it

(29:21):
was fenced, and that's okay. It was actually a German
Shepherd collie, quite a big dog. And anyway, behind us
there was this dog. And all the time my dog
used to go to the back of the back of
the property and wine and try to dig through the
fence and they had a dog tethered up right. I

(29:43):
had a cage and they had about a two meter
thing and every night it would be howling and whatever.
Hardly anyone was there, and then they were So one
day I went over there.

Speaker 20 (29:55):
I drove around the.

Speaker 19 (29:56):
Back next street when I knocked on the door and
I said, hey, bro, you're going to feed your dog
whining every night. The guy basically told me to bugger
office his dog and you're on my property. Data So
carried on for about a week. Nothing happened. I rang
the SPCA and nothing happened. To rang the police, and

(30:16):
I had a friend who was the police officer. He said,
you can't do anything. So long story. Should have went
over and shot the dog because it was so skinny.
What those guys moved out. I never heard from them again.
So the dog was in so much.

Speaker 10 (30:37):
Serious You shot it.

Speaker 19 (30:39):
I shot the dog yet, So anyway that was.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Did you tell your cop mate you shot the dog?

Speaker 7 (30:47):
Yep?

Speaker 19 (30:47):
He said, good on you, but no one would do
anything about it. And they were obviously gang mems. But
they moved out, so and I don't know to do
a good thing. And anyway, I've always had dogs and
years later, right at the moment, actually we property by
our lake and it was not fenced, and we've got

(31:11):
two dogs. One's a Hungarian Vistla, beautiful dog, but you know,
they're quite big and he's mixed it a little bit
with a lad so he's quite a big dog. He's
forty five kilos. And then we've got one of these
little My partner's got a little snauther, a black snoutherer.
And so before we bought the property, but I arranged

(31:35):
with the builder, can you go and fence the property
before we move in. And there's a bit of mucking
around with the counsel and whatever. But my idea was
not to keep.

Speaker 20 (31:49):
The dogs in.

Speaker 16 (31:51):
It was to keep the roof riof.

Speaker 19 (31:53):
Wrath out because our dogs are very protectives of obviously
my partner and myself. But it cost nineteen thousand dollars
to put the fence up before we even moved in.
And we would never tie our dogs up, never unleash. Yes,

(32:14):
but yeah, and you know that's not a big property,
any nine hundred square meters.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah, I'm still I'm still kind of stuck on your
shooting that dog. I mean that really escalated well.

Speaker 19 (32:27):
Like I've warned the guy three times, all the people,
and they didn't. They told my gistin.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, but it's not your job. It's not your job
to do that, is it. I'm lawful discharge of a firearm?

Speaker 19 (32:39):
Well it was in the eighties, Mark it was, but
different then.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Okay, nice to hear from you, Robbie, Thank you. Twelve
away from nine eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine nine
two to text you do escalate that one. Get in touch.
It's about prolonged tethering. W oh wait hundred eighty teddy

(33:06):
and nineteen known to the text you want to come through.
There's got any reactions to Robbie's movement there, and hopefully
that situation will occur again because the SPCA has the
power to I don't necessarily know that they've got the
power to seize the dogs. And that's kind of key

(33:26):
to it, isn't it. I think they can get others
to seize the dogs. That's my gut feeling on that one. Yeah,
Animal welfare inspects don't have extra powers to seize animals. However,

(33:52):
serious case of continued noncomplacency may still result in seize
and possibly prosecution. This BCA said, I'm not quite sure
who seizes the dogs. That's not my area of expertise. Jane,
it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 21 (34:05):
Oh I'm Mark. No, I'm ringing up about the man
that shot the dog. Surely there must have been another
way of Perhaps he said it was in the eighties,
so perhaps it was a bit different then. But you know,
the dog could have been taken to a refuge center
or whatever, or I can't see.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
It sounds like an extreme, extreme reaction to him.

Speaker 21 (34:34):
Oh yes, I mean, I know he said he was
a dog lover, but to do that, Oh no, No,
there must have been there's other ways that you could
possibly possibly just take the dog away while they weren't there.

(34:58):
And I don't know, but there must have been a
better way of doing it rather than shooting the dog.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
You'd think so, and you'd hope so. Yeah, a lot
of texts about that. Someone Becks has texted what the
world needs is more Robbies. I bet there are heaps
of dogs and cats that wish a Robbi would show
up and put them out of their misery. Chairs Becks,
that dog was suffering being tethed, and that prickshot him.
He's not a long dog lover. He claims to be
that sob. I was an SPCA inspector for fourteen years.

(35:31):
When any animal is ten that it must have to
have excess to adequate shelter, water and food at all times,
granted the food gets eaten. Most of your callers were
calling to complain about other welfare animal concerns. The SPCA
will come to skin out of healthy dogs, sick or
injured animal concerns. Crying, whining, barking dogs are just useless

(35:53):
owners not giving attention to their dog. Shooting that dog
was a morseful action, a quick death rather than long
cruel death. Emmitt Well, I don't agree with dogs being
tied up all day. It may mean more roaming the
streets attacking people and other animals. I've had dogs coming
out properly twice and called rabbits and chickens. Also witness

(36:14):
a dog was tether the back of you, just about
to get hung because you only took the quarter too fast.
Luckily the rope break broke. Farmers don't usually chain their
working dogs, but they do put them in a dog
run cage. Dogs are companions. They should be on a sofa,
on your beat dog bed or sometimes the Creighton doors.
Dogs should never be tied up. They should be in

(36:35):
a fence section long of the King Charles Spaniel best
dog by infinitely times one million infinity. Janet's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 22 (36:48):
Oh h, I'm Marcus. I think you know there's a cross
section of humans in this world who are good, and
then it's another cross section of humans that are not
like humans should be, and they don't have any sort
of empathy or feelings or care. And those sort of

(37:13):
people should never ever be allowed to own a dog
or a cat or any animal whatsoever. Some of those
people are farmers, are night add So I've intervened many
many times, risked my own life. I've gone on to properties.

(37:35):
I've provided many kennels and a scene to the dog.
Has it got water?

Speaker 7 (37:45):
No?

Speaker 22 (37:46):
All these dogs in the summertime that shut in the
car when ages in shopping in the heat with the
window down slightly. But it's not enough, and you will
get fined three hundred dollars of you yet or doing it.

(38:07):
So that is because the dog's kidneys pack up because
they need air flowing through. They can't sweat and so
their kidneys pack up. It's extremely cruel and they suffer
greatly as they do if they're tied up for a

(38:27):
long length of time. They're like little children.

Speaker 15 (38:31):
Dogs.

Speaker 22 (38:32):
They have the same needs as us, and they need
to be properly cared for. And those dog rangers from
the pound who collect all those registrations the dogs, their
job should be to go around every single dogs home

(38:52):
and check every year to see that those dogs are
probably cared for.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
And it is surprising there's not that oversight on the dogs.

Speaker 22 (39:05):
Yeah, so it's all very well making a law, but
who's going to hold us see it.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
It's all very well taking money off for an animal
for animal registration, but when there's no chick well, from
my understanding, there's no chickens on the condition the dogs
are in, that's right.

Speaker 22 (39:20):
They don't do the work that they should be doing
taking care of them. It's the whole point of this. So,
and I don't agree with the mare of Auckland killing them,
even thousand dogs just because they were.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Roaming seems extraordinary, doesn't It didn't.

Speaker 22 (39:38):
Even try and rehome them.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
I think they try very hard to. I think I
think they're in a very difficult situation. But I'll tell
you what, there's some pretty average dog owners out.

Speaker 22 (39:47):
There really bad and I could. I can't even count
how many dogs I have literally taken off the owner,
you know, taken it away and rehomed it. So people
have to step up and are too scared because the
asiod cretums that do this evil stuff evil to humans

(40:12):
as well.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Leave it there, Jen, we're coming up to the news.
But I appreciate your passion. Thank you for that. Hettel
twelve its dogs and Robbie with a shooting of the
dog g we'ren to dogs and prolonged tethering. Some good
texts about that if you want to talk about this.
Because there's new laws that now you can't tether a dog.
There used to be a situation that the inspectors, the sps,
we're unable to really do anything just because of tethering.

(40:34):
But now but there's cruel tethering, there's several conditions for
that they can remove the dogs. Although I kind of
think with the number of dogs that are now being
put down, I think there's eleven thousand last year in Auckland,
that probably a dog being removed is probably the same

(40:55):
as a dog being euthanized, I would think, because there's
there's a lot more dogs than people. I just think
something's gone, something's really broken about dogs and dog owners.
There's something for every wrong with the situation. The eleven
thousand dogs could be put down in Auckland. I'm prepared

(41:18):
to think that some of it is a not that
it excuse it. Some of it as a result of
COVID with everyone going out to get a dog and
some of those people no longer wanting those dogs. But yeah,
it doesn't make much sense to me, love it or
hate it. In some aspects of the world, like farm

(41:38):
dogs are tools equipment, yet the owner's care for them,
they appreciate them. But not every dog is a pet.
If they are pampered like pets, they shouldn't. They wouldn't
work as required. There's probably yeah, well, and there could
be probably protests about that happening. Also, SPCA inspectors have
powers under the Animal Welfare It to remove animals where

(42:00):
the law has been broken. I'm the fourteen year inspector,
must be. I'm a fourteen year in speaker and have
removed many a poor animal and taken the owners to court.
That caller saying no one does anything is wrong. The
animal WELFRAC nineteen ninety nine is full of laws. The
SBC and the police have the same powers under that act.
Love your work, ferret. Someone said it's legal to shoot

(42:24):
dogs that are bothering stock. Yeah, do you want to
talk about That's why you're discussing tonight. Get in touch
to be nice, to hear from you eight hundred and
eighty Toda eighty nine two nine two to text anything
else that's happening to night. Do feel free to come
through and talk about There's plenty happening out there. The

(42:46):
other thing about I don't want to get into an animal
cruelty show, but I see that and a creek and
tasmin that eels have been attacked with a mashetti and
balk creek. I don't quite know where that is b
o K. I've got a lot of time for eels,

(43:07):
lot of stories lately about eels. I think there should
be more places of people and go and interact with
eels because everyone always finds it to really highlight where
you can go and actually feed eels and things. I
think there's some good places you can feed them, AND's
got a great history of feeding eels and people going
up to tame eels long way that lasts. I'm looking
at balk Creek on the map, and it's in the

(43:35):
Virgin Islands in the United States. So I've clearly got
the wrong one there, but not the one in Tasman.
Oh that might be the one there near Bork Avenue. No, oh, yes,
it must be near Bork Avenue, and that appears to
be just by Richmond in a new subdivision type area.

(43:56):
I think most creeks have eels, and so you might
want to talk about eels too, feeding eels, tame eels, eels,
any positive stories about eels and stories about dogs too.
That's what right about tonight? There's something you want to
mention a little bit of talk tonight about daylight saving,
which I wax and wait about. Basically I love talking
about it is in your use, I'm not quite sure,

(44:18):
but do come through. I there's something else you want
to talk about too. How are we going with that
typhoon that seems to have gone and gone and left. Yeah,
it must be very hard when you are neighbors to
a dog that's tethered up. And I wonder if from

(44:39):
the back of this this will give you more strength
to dial the SPC about those dogs. That's something you'll
be doing on the back of this. That might be
something you can talk about also tonight too. But the
lines there are free. I'd love you to hear from
your twelve past eleven, sorry, twelve past nine. I've got
that on the twenty four o'clock, which I always struggle with.
Well I I struggle with but sometimes I look at
it bit quickly and tell you the wrong information. I'll

(45:01):
try and stop that, but you come through it. Talk
about dogs and eels and daylight saving anything else you
want to mention too, Feel free to be a part
of the show tonight, part of the chat. Pretty much
enjoyed last night's show about volcanoes too, so thanks everyone
that called about that. But yeah, do come through Marcus
till twelve as I say, oh, eight hundred eighty ten

(45:23):
eighty and nine nine to the text. You want to
be a part of it. There's something different you want
to mention. Feel free keep those texts coming, of course,
but yeah, pretty extreme about Robie shooting a dog. Wow, yeah, inexcusable. Anyway,

(45:50):
if there's something you want to talk about, now, let's
get in touch with you. Get in touch with me.
At twelve past nine oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty,
So feel free Hitdle twelve o'clock and breaking news when
that happens, or keep you updated with that. Where the
eels are attacked with stones and machetes and Nelson, not

(46:12):
a good look for you, Nelson. They're they're going to
put cameras in place. That's pretty crazy putting cameras in
place to stop people harming animals. It's in the suburb
of berries Fields. They're trying to educate the youth about eels.

(46:36):
So yeah, yess. It's probably something that people are always kind
of fished for eels, but that's slightly different, isn't it.
Eels can live for a hundred years before turned to
the ocean to spawn and die. It's illegal to harm
them throwing stones, cutting, stabbing, or causing distress to eels

(46:57):
a series of events and harming can result in a
prosecution and find and fair enough too. There was one
farm in south and Adam Motta got fine hundred one
thousand dollars spring stuff in the river that killed the eagles.
Marcus went to a haunted house right at the carnival
on rotor Or, a lake front tonight. Ge have they
got worse or were they always so lame? I think

(47:21):
they are looking pretty under maintained. The last time I
was on a ghost train was it the Kumu Feir
or Coumeu a MP show a year ago? And yeah,
I think the kid had stolen everything off it and
they've just spray painted stuff. It was terrible, Marcus. Probably

(47:43):
half the community page of New Zealand should be renamed
anyone seen my dog? It's NonStop on my local page. Yes,
it's all they do Facebook pages. All they do is
lost dogs, which are all dogs that aren't fenced. Marcus,
if it were you, what would have you have done?
He said? He tried everything, contacted everyone, No one did anything.
The dog was starving to death. Oh we've got to

(48:05):
take his side the story. But yeah, I'm sure there'd
be more options. I just don't know how hot headed
and how much of a rage he did that in.
That would be my caveat on that. One fifteen past nine,
Get in touch, Marcus, till twelve lines are free. We're
looking eels and dogs. That's the that's the theme so

(48:26):
far for tonight. Oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten
eighty impress of long for and eels under the Jetty
Warnica waterfront. Would hate to think anyone would harm them.
There's some great spots to go and get spot eels
in this country, just as Cafe much Waker that's got
great eels. Oh we saw eels recently? Do we see
eels in the cricket pr It's one of the great things.

(48:49):
For there's always some very good eels that if you
go just outside Riverside Market and christ Church and the Avon,
you go down there to that platform that levy on
the lake and that just tap it and they'll come
up to the surface. Fantasic, great things to touch, remarkable
things really when they go to a meter and a half.
Those ones are one hundred years old. Marcus Ruakka Patuna

(49:16):
home of the big black eel near martin Borough. There
are some big eels in the river that run through
the cave. Also some large ones at Mount Bruce and
the Eketahuna doc Reserve has a multi name. I can't
think of, Mike Morris, thank you. I remember I went
a while ago when it first started to that underwater
Black River blackwater rafting there White Tomo and they always

(49:39):
went on and on about the eels that would be
in the rivers, and I just thought they were making
it up until you go to the pub at Waitomo
and there's stuffed eels on the pub wall and they're
just massive size of men's leg. Marcus, great show. We
let our dog have free range of the backyards. He
had such a good life. There we go. Yeah, that's

(50:00):
what I would have thought people need to do. You
want to have a good, big backyard for your dog
to wander around. I thought that was compulsory. Anyway, need
your call nineteen past nine. Something different you want to
talk about, Yep, let's go from you. Let's hear from you.
I've given you my lot of what you want to
talk about. There something else that you want to check
into the max good. I embrace those calls. If there's
something different you want to talk about that would be
good to me, good for me rather yep, So get

(50:24):
in touch. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine
to nine to de text. Anything else you want to
talk about. I can handle that tonight. You might have
a school holiday story for me. Write taking the kids
or the grandkids. Some were good or some were terrible.
Both are of interest to me. Yeah, so let's hear

(50:45):
from you, Marcus till twelve oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
Anything else, let's be hearing from you. If you don't
want to come through, keep those text and emails coming.
As I say, the lines are free. Twenty past nine. Yeah,
let me think what else I can tell you about?

(51:06):
What deepening in the world, What special dat it is?

Speaker 13 (51:10):
No?

Speaker 7 (51:10):
Not?

Speaker 13 (51:12):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Yeah. There are some severe weather warnings in place for
the weekend, particularly with the all black tests there. Strong
wind watchers with gusts of one hundred k's are possible
have been issued for much of the central part of
South End as well as Willington and wider Upper but

(51:36):
they are saying it could be sketchy for the rugby.
I feel this test slightly over hyped. Actually, it feels
like the Nathan Nation stopped until we can move on.
Three one past nine, as I say, oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. In thirty years of living in Auckland,

(51:59):
I've owned six dogs. What I had for seventeen years.
All were registered annually from Whittakley City Council, North Stie.
The council Rodney's Council, Monaco City Council, Frankly District Council
nowadays Auckland Council. Not once did they ever see my dogs.
The only council that requested the physically see my dog
was the Upper Hut City Council. When I worked in

(52:20):
Wellington for one year before returning to Auckland. The Wop
Wops Reserve in Northwood, out the back of the old
Norsewear factory, is well worth a look for the eel fanatics,
the Wop Wops and Norsewood. Jeff, it's Marcus. Welcome, Hi, Jeff.

Speaker 8 (52:41):
Yeah, greating Marcus. Just a fascinating thing about eels. I
went floundering one night or a spotlight and a spare
and I was on the Ottacking Brother which is on
the way to Wearrington, and all of a sudden I

(53:02):
was just around, all my round my legs. I was
just absolutely surrounded by eels, hundreds of them, migrat they
come out of the sea. And when and I climbed
out of the road, but of a fright, actually, I
thought christ so But when I shone the torch Otaki

(53:23):
beach is quite gravely and when the eels were missing
the river mouth to get into the to get into
the Ottacki River. They were slithering across the stones and
then plopping into the river. So it was quite fascinating. Actually,

(53:43):
I never seen anything like that.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Ever, they can move quite far on land. I think
I didn't know how they do it.

Speaker 8 (53:52):
Yeah, it was unbelievable. There was There was hundreds of them,
and the Okio Stream by a leve in there. A
guy was down there when the heels were all coming.

Speaker 23 (54:09):
Up the.

Speaker 8 (54:12):
Up the stream and they were gaffing them. And they
had an old ostinate forty truck for forty four gallon drums,
and these these guys were gaffing the heels and chucking
them into the drums. So it was a hell of
a lot of eels. I don't know what the hell

(54:32):
I was going to do with them. But never mind.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
When you're in the river, were you eating? Is that
what you said you were doing?

Speaker 8 (54:39):
What's that?

Speaker 24 (54:39):
Sorry?

Speaker 2 (54:40):
When you were in the river when you saw them all,
were you in the eating or were you just in
there for the hell of it?

Speaker 8 (54:45):
No? No, I was in the ot techy where I
was spearing flounder.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Oh flounder, you know you did say so, I misstep
but yeah, okay.

Speaker 8 (54:57):
Wow, and and that that's when all more on my
legs like a fee his eels hitting my leg and
I was on the top when I was shown the
big spotlight. I had a battery on my back with
a good spotlight. And when I shone it into the water,
holy hell.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Side with theirs that with their hundreds.

Speaker 10 (55:22):
Of them hundreds.

Speaker 8 (55:24):
Yeah, I'm not joking. I've never seen so many eels,
you know, in my whole life. I've caught a lot
of heels as a kid in a stream, just owdle
of in there.

Speaker 17 (55:37):
But it was a bit of fun.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
And yeah, we always we always caught eels as kids.
I'm not even quite sure the point of catching eels
because no one really ate them, and it wasn't really
catching release either. I hope they've kind of changed around
that because we kind of we kind of removed quite
a few from parks.

Speaker 8 (55:54):
Yeah. Well, there was a guy. There was a guy
in the in there. He was a builder and he
changed he sold part of the partnership to his brother
and he went earling and he dug a canal off
the o'hear River there, which was just addle of in there,

(56:15):
and he went professional ealing, and in one year he
became because France and England were by masters of eels
and masses amounts of eels, and I think they were
making Jelly's eel out of them. And anyway, so he

(56:38):
decided that there was time to try and do something
about this, and he changed from being a builder to
a professional eeler and became a millionaire in one year.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
There you go, I was reading today, it's our second
biggest export as far as for marine life, after crayfish
his eels. I don't know that's still the case, but
I think that probably is. So there was a bit
of an enza. Do you thank you for that? Twenty
six past nine. Growing up in Warnaca in the sixties,
men my mates used to row around Lake Wanica with
spotlights and spear and sit in it and catch eels

(57:13):
and sell them for dollar each to mcmonley's Fish and
chip shop. Ex Urban grind, Gary of Crumbus, Thanks Gary Churchill.
Parkling Dowie a great place to show the kids eels. Really?
Is it a river? A river into the Tammaki estory?

Speaker 10 (57:35):
Is it?

Speaker 13 (57:36):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Yeah, I can see that now looking at on the map.
Didn't realize they'd be there thank you for that. Can't
see where the streamers being touch If you want to
talk people, my name is Marcus. Welcome Eddle twelve Eels
and dogs and tethered dogs and what dramas you've had
with tethered dogs and what you've done to get that
sort of because there's more strength now that's against the

(57:58):
lord to tether your dog. There are some caveats, but
big feel for comedy about there too. If you want
to tonight Lion's Fish want to come through eels and places.
You've seen eels or eels stories. I think there's always
stories of great eels migrations at Lake elshere when something

(58:18):
happens and they all go overland. There's messes of them.
You've seen those shots. One of those stories that comes
up from time to time. Not fully I can't fully
remember what the processes are that happens. Just migration, I suppose,
and they're everywhere. The ground is covered in them. The
luck gets stranded. You are mass stranding of migrating eels.

(58:43):
Don't know they're trying to prevent it and not quite
sure why it happens. Maybe it's because they close off
the lake. Yeah, because there's no outlet to the sea.
There was just tons of them, just washed up. Pretty
grim photo being touched on to talk about that, as
I say, oh, eight hundred and eighty Toddy Marcus till twelve. Well,
I hope your school holidays are going well. By the way,

(59:04):
it's all gone. Bluff can tell you that for nothing
all go. A lot of people seem to be going
missing these days, don't they. Is that a Needn woman
that's been missing for five weeks from Auckland. She'd been
to Auckland doesn't look good at all.

Speaker 7 (59:24):
Go.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
I can't believe what's gone on there, leaving sky City
after five em never to be seen again with all
her belongings in the hotel. I guess you might have
gone overseas.

Speaker 17 (59:45):
We never.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
I guess it'd be come up on passport control, wouldn't it. Anyway,
You've just been kind of sort of worried about all
of those stories. I've been seeing you hold your horse
and be with your soon people we're talking eels and
dog tethering, are with you soon? Elajah to stand there? Yeah,

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I think they were. They all got to some mystery
spot off Tonga to mate and then they come back
and spawn and die. I think that's what. Do they
die over there? You know they couldn't they got to
do they die over there? And then the young ones
come back? Can't remember that way it all goes. But
it's much studied, but there's still much mystery about it.
Thanks so much for that. Then twenty nine Away from
ten Elijah ats Marcus. Welcome, Hey Marcas, Elijah.

Speaker 25 (01:00:35):
I just lived the inland from Grahamouth a bit so
I've heard a few hero stories around the One that
sticks in my mind the best as of a fellow
who is out on Lake Brunner. They was coming back
in from Ada out on the lake and dropped his
secondary motor accidentally. He got some scuba gre scuba gear

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and went back uh later and went down a little
ways and looked to the bottom of the lake and
it was just a massive humong hiss heels. He decided
he leave the motor.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Wow, Like the whole ground was just covered in them apparently,
and Piggins too. I'd I'd be inclined to believe that
story too, because it's got that eerie feel about it
like Brunner, hasn't it? Yeah, yeah, for sure, Although would
there be enough food there to sustain them all or
would how would that all work?

Speaker 25 (01:01:33):
There's plenty of fists coming down from the rivers, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Yeah, wow.

Speaker 25 (01:01:38):
Whatever else they eat, yeah, it's quite abasing comes in
from everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
How's how's the White beat going, Elijah?

Speaker 25 (01:01:48):
Ah, pretty good as far as I've heard.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Yeah, okay, I would like to keep up date with Elijah.
Thanks so much for that. Market's Marcus.

Speaker 17 (01:01:56):
Welcome, Marcus first pod Coler.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Nice to hear from you.

Speaker 17 (01:02:02):
Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Thanks for making the effort.

Speaker 26 (01:02:04):
Calling up about dogs in Kided and that guy shooting
that dog. Yes, I don't believe that happened. Nobody would
walk over to somebody's house and shoot a dog. Whether
it was the eighties or not, I don't know. But
I've grown up with Staffordshire bull Terriers. If be were them,
they can sometimes be a bit of a handful of

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other dogs. But when I was living in Sydney, I
had two of them, the mother and the son, and
I never ever once had them tied up or even
on a lead. They used to both walk beside me.
I had them really well trained. If they got a
little bit too far ahead of me, I'd go him
and I'd fallen behind. I used to walk them from

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Bondou Junction to down to the beach, and then I
bought them and never ever had them tied up. And
then I came back to New Zealand and I threw
them both back home with me, and one of them,
the boy, he got pinched. And two years later, because
I had him chipped, I got a call from I
was living in right at the time, and he got pinched.

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And two years later I got a call from the
RSPCA and they asked me if I had a dog
called Tyson, and I said I did, and they said,
we'll have just found him wandering along Church Street, which
is an other who with a big red rape tight
around him and it's all chewed off. So what I'm
trying to say is he didn't like being tied up

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and what he could do. And I got him back
two years later.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Wow, and are getting good? Nick?

Speaker 17 (01:03:37):
Oh beautiful? He was so glad to see me and
I had him for another he was four years five
years old. Then I had him until he was twelve
in Papma Beach and we used to go down to
the beach with him and Pippy's. I had to give
his mom away but yeah he was, Yeah he was. Yeah,
he wasn't good Nick, But you know, I was worried

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that he had been pinched for a fighting dog or
anything like that, because, like I said, people know what
staffs are, but I never had problems with them. All
I used to have problems was other people's dogs used
to come over because Steph is get a little bit
carried away with a stick, and other dogs used to
come over and annoy them and I'd have to pull
them back and they just come back to me, sit

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down and yeah, never ever. And I owned six of
them and I slept with them. They were on my
bed all the time. They lived inside with me, not
never had them in a cage, never tied them up, nothing.
And I could walk them, like I said, all the
way from Bondai Junction to Bondo Beach, not the beach,
the beach next door, and some with them all day.

Speaker 9 (01:04:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Nice to hear from your Mark. Thank you. Good even glean,
this is Marcus welcome.

Speaker 6 (01:04:46):
I can clean here.

Speaker 23 (01:04:47):
I'm never going to doubt with Jessays again because I
used to work for an ill process in factory for
the pay and the guy Eddie Windager that's started the bin.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Oh, hang on, hang on.

Speaker 23 (01:04:59):
What's the guy's name, Eddie Windhager. The company was called
Thomas Richards.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Oh, yeah, I think I knew a bit about that,
about that they're involved in that they were Germans.

Speaker 23 (01:05:12):
Right, Yes, that's correct. Obviously it's still sort not there anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
What was his wife's name?

Speaker 23 (01:05:20):
Oh? I don't know his wife's name.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Sorry, Yeah, okay, you know that's sort of that's sort
of I've got a recall of that family.

Speaker 23 (01:05:28):
Yeah, so what was your story?

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
What was your story?

Speaker 7 (01:05:30):
Again?

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Again? They were tell me it again for the beginning?

Speaker 23 (01:05:33):
Well, I just said, Jeff say that he knew going
in live In and they actually.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Started in lib In, did they really?

Speaker 23 (01:05:40):
It was my first job out of school a week
for ten years. Yes, it's actually the Export of the
Eels was an export company and I smoke deals and
skin deals and yeah you know it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
And yeah, what year was that?

Speaker 23 (01:05:56):
I started there in eighty two? I was fifteen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Yeah, So did you say it was that did you
say it was at the airport.

Speaker 23 (01:06:04):
It was in Britain's Creek Roads down by the just
down from the air base there and you come down
over the bridge and up the hill. It was on
the right hand side there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
So what would tell me how the operation worked, Glenn?

Speaker 23 (01:06:16):
Well, absolutely, they had fishermen that brought them in and
obviously we we processed them. We put them tumblers and
things like that. And you had scattered them them, skin
them and set them off overseas.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
What dried or tinned or how were they sent?

Speaker 13 (01:06:33):
No?

Speaker 11 (01:06:35):
Frozen?

Speaker 23 (01:06:36):
Yeah, frozen?

Speaker 10 (01:06:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
And where were most of them sought? Where were the
most of them sourced from?

Speaker 23 (01:06:43):
Well?

Speaker 14 (01:06:44):
All over?

Speaker 23 (01:06:44):
I ended up getting h t and driving both truck
and went down by Katani and all over the country.

Speaker 17 (01:06:53):
Just rivers.

Speaker 10 (01:06:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
And would you take them back to the back to
Brigham's Creek in a tank?

Speaker 23 (01:07:00):
I took them back at a truck with a tank
and erated. They had to be live, and they were
back in the tanks slive. You weren't allowed to process
some of.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
The were dead.

Speaker 23 (01:07:12):
Had to be love heels and process from there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
And that was that. The biggest one on the in
the North Island. Wasn't the biggest export place, Oh no, there.

Speaker 23 (01:07:21):
Was a There was a sure it was the biggest
one that I knew of. But there was one in
Teak Order Ticklenberg's. Yeah, it was. It was one of
the bigger ones.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
And what happened? Did they fish them out?

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (01:07:35):
From what I understand, yeah, he also had to come by.
Now there's not that that you can't get them like
you used to back then.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
So there was a it was a real boom thing,
and they fished them out of all the rivers, I presume.

Speaker 23 (01:07:48):
From what I understand you okay, yep, just so you
know what I knew about that?

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
You know, no, you know, because you know what did Yeah,
that's interesting about that, brilliant. Do you want to hear
about getting touched Marcus till twelve oh Waite hundred and eighty.
It's all about eels, and eel experts are quite happy
to it. And dogs is a bit slightly more depressing topic.
But yeah, I think there's still people that get rescue

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dogs or their rescue dogs are duds. Here are a
lot of stories about that. The people they get dogs
that are just impossible. A baby eel is an elva.
I think that's the word I was thinking of looking
for twenty two away from ten ye ha ha ha,
nineteen to ten people welcome, Now, when's the Taylor Swift

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thing happened at the movie theaters. That's weird, isn't it?
Like it's an now but release at the movie theater.
Does anyone going to that with their kids or grandkids?
They're unleashing the new music video. I'm good on them,
but still seemed to be a bit of it. By
the way. Oh no, I was going to ask about
the school high they movies, but you might have been
to see some of those. Were's a big time for

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movie release. Oh the other thing too, they're going to
start charging members of the public money to park at
doc campground at Ardachi Mount Cook. It's a pretty good walk,
that hook of Glacier walk. We did that last year.
I though it was a knockout, So yeah, that's a yeah.

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I don't know about that. You wonder how if you
have pretty good equipment at some of those country campgrounds
to make money from it, be vand or proof. Wouldn't
it have to enforce illegal parking near nearby too? I
would think? But yeah, that's what we are talking about tonight.
If you want to come through eels Marcus, we had

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a commercial al export company out of Dargon on the eighties.
We're sending live eels to Holland by air to refill
their northern lakes near Eindhoven. It's a good thing to do.
I have a rescue dog here in Balley. She was
locked in a cage for five years as a breeder,

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then dumped on the street where she stopped when she
stopped having puppies. She's a great little dog and every
day she's happy to roam around the villa or at
the office and rides with me on my motorbike or
on the scooter.

Speaker 7 (01:10:20):
With these.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
It might be a more positive tone for our dog.
Night to do to talk about rescue dogs do. I
know some of them are a nightmare and some of
them are probably very, very hard to retrain. I wouldn't
mind knowing what your experience is with your rescue dogs
and how you've managed to get them back on the
straight and narrow. Because we're talking about prolonged tethering, we're

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also talking about eelds. But all the lines are free.
If you've got something to say at seventeen to ten o'clock,
Roman's along at midnight. I'm happy to talk to you
until then. So if you want to be a part
of it, get in touch. Marcau's just switched on and
you thought and thought you were. You were party to
him at the Eels and the Dogs haven't. Did you

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mentioned my Sharks yet? Watch them beat the Melbourne Storm tomorrow.
I like Cranella and I like Nico. I just don't
think they've got it. I hope like Hell. I mean

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they're my third team. I think I like the Warriors
and Penwith and Cranella, but I'd rather Croneller and I'd
like the Crenell and Penwri in the final. That would
be my dream. I don't like Craig Bellamy. I think
he's a boar, and I don't mind Brisbane. I don't

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like Carrigan. It's the top knot hold your horses. Sixteen
to ten. It is fourteen to ten. Hello June, this
is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 27 (01:12:04):
Hi Marcus Stream.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
I Marcus from Plant.

Speaker 27 (01:12:10):
He too retired or rehomed. Farm dog. One's ruby and
she came to make it earner. And the other one
that's just a little pup that you know, the farmer
has a little of a pups. I felt like having
the baby baby in the house again. So I've got

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a little heading dog and they're both laying on the
couch and lounge.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Tell me about the older dog. How old was the
farm dog when you got here? And what happens to
farm dogs.

Speaker 27 (01:12:42):
When I got the farm. When I got the farm dog,
she was two, yeah, and and she was the pick
of the litter. And apparently the farmer you know, the children,
his children razor. And then when it was time to
start teaching it to go to you know, be a

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farm dog, and he took it over and introduce it
to a dog kennel and started teaching at things. But
every time he got occupied the pup, the young dog
would go back to the house.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Oh I thought he was a dud.

Speaker 27 (01:13:22):
It wanted to play with the kids.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Okay, it ruined and the kids go near them. Okay.

Speaker 27 (01:13:27):
Well yeah, So I've got ruby and and my was
something a policeman told me many years ago. And I've
got a quarter acre section and I had German shepherds
for fifty five years, and I always had two. Now
you come, you turn into my driveway and there's a

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gate about three quarters way down the drive and it's padlocks,
and it's got dogs running loose at all times. And
then the dogs can run right round the whole house.
But when you come up the driveway. There's a front
door and it's got a screen on it. And the

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policeman said, you must have access to a door. One door.
That's all you need for a doctor and a police
to come, and then the dogs can run loose. And
it's what I've always had for these years. So when
I opened my back door in the morning and it's
a lovely sunny day, the dogs can come in if

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they want to, but they're quite happy to lay in
the back porch.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Need much exercise, Well, we go everywhere.

Speaker 27 (01:14:44):
I have a ten speed bike and I didn't ride
it in the winter because it's been so cold here.
But normally I would take my German shepherds and ride
around the vineyards or I usually rode for an air
on my bike.

Speaker 6 (01:15:04):
Wow, and then the dogs then free.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Do they run beside your bike?

Speaker 19 (01:15:12):
Yep?

Speaker 27 (01:15:13):
Yes, yes, when I go through when I had to
go through town, i had them on a double lead
and they just crossed along beside the leaft the inside
of the bike. It's the way I've always exercised, and
it's been lovely to be able to go around the vineyard,
isn't it rilly?

Speaker 10 (01:15:32):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Yeah, that wasn't that terrible? X and those people in
that big bike around the vineyards.

Speaker 21 (01:15:37):
No.

Speaker 27 (01:15:37):
Yeah, well I've ridden horses around Mattin Bar and I
used to grab a little pony and gig and I
certainly wouldn't want to do it nowadays.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Nice to hear from you, Jane. Thank you. Ten from
ten seven away from ten o'clock. Hello, Dave, this is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 28 (01:15:54):
Yeah, hi Margus. Can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Yes, thank you, Dave.

Speaker 28 (01:15:57):
Yeah, marmas Hey, I'm just just picking up on a
week while back there. I heard a quote talking about
a guy in Levin that went professional with the elfship. Yes,
I heard the name, and it wasn't a name that
I know. But so my dad used to catch them.
He was a commercial fisherman and he so he had

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you know, two guys working for him full time, and
they'd go out and fish all around Hawk's Bay and
pretty much the entire North Island rivers, dams, whatever they
could get at, depending on what the weather have been like.
And it was just a continuous chain of putting them out,
leaving them for a while, go some rouse, puts more
out and you know, come back around and pull those
ones at a later date. And he used to sell

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them depending on how much he had. And there was
another guy in Hawks Bay called snow Baking, and him
and mild Man were the two biggest commercial fishermen in
the North Island, and the say that between them when
they got an an x amount of ton ten ton,
then the truck would come up from Levin and a

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guy called Mark, who drove the truck, would come and
pick them up. And of course that dad had a
place out the back of Bookie Tap. A guy had
ken Swan was the big his name was, and he
had why Matty Stream ran through his property, and it
was cold. When you can keep eels alive, kept keeping
them in cold water. So when when he bagged up

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that has catched from wherever he'd been, he'd drank that
had come back with us and he would go on
the stream but this guy's place and stay there until
until him and the guy's snow would have ten ton
between them. Then they'd call the factory in live In
and this guy Mark come up, pick him up and
take him away. But just hearing him, I'm guessing that
the guy he's talking about when he says he went professional,

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I think he must have been the owner of the factory,
because if he made a million in a year, you know,
my old man wasn't making that much money. And he
was doing it round the clock all through summer. He'd
do he do eels through the summer, and he'd do
through the months, heels in the months with r in

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it and blossoms and the other months.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Can you tell me how he caught the eels?

Speaker 19 (01:18:17):
We had nets.

Speaker 28 (01:18:19):
I don't know if you've seen ill nets and commercial ones,
but you know it's just four or five hoops that
get gradually smaller or smaller where a flight it's about
four meters coming off it, and you just he'd put
a bit of eelboat in.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
There, and and this would be at sea.

Speaker 28 (01:18:38):
No, no, no, this is river.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Oh I see I s I thought you said he'd
be out a fishing. But okay, okay, says in rivers. Yeah,
that makes more sense.

Speaker 28 (01:18:46):
But operating out of a boat, you know, you take
two vehicles and you drop one off of where you
were going to get out, and then everybody jump from
the other vehicle and then go go up to where
you're going to go in. And then and it was
all you know, well upstream, out of out of areas
where there were people that were sort of up towards you.
Ruhens Ork week is wherever you were at the time.

(01:19:09):
And of course in Hook's Bay you've got Tudo, Kurring
nar Aurora. Oh god, look at Hooks Fanny More. There's
another one might be the tookie took it. But you
need to rivers and lakes and dams, and yeah, you
put your raft in and then float down, playout your nets.

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And then when you came back and you pulled your
nets and get emptied them into holding bags, which you
just can't hanging off the side of your raft. And
then when you got to the point where you had
so many that you couldn't you know, there was too
many for the rafts, you'd find a place that was suitable,
bang a steak in and leave them there. And of
course at the bottom when you went and got into

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your vehicles, they left behind. Well then you go, you
go back up the top, ditch your other vehicle, come back,
and on the way you stop and pick up your
holding backs and they just just all go back, all
go into the back of the yuke and that stay
alive as long as was you know, went back.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
And so right, So what sort of boat was he
using on the river?

Speaker 28 (01:20:11):
Well, he started, I was cat This was in the
eighty so I was a young fellow. But I remember,
like I remember, had a dinging you know, I can
halim any dinghy for a while. And then as he
sort of got as he expanded, he got himself bloody
and inflatable because it floated in less water. Because of
course you come to places where the water get a
bit shell on. You didn't have having a list of
raft so it was just it was an easier it
was easier with that. But yeah, it was a great lifestyle.

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But yeah, he yeah, he caught a lot of eels,
spent spent this summer floating down rivers with the old
man having having a great time as a kid, you know,
just swimming in all the best holes you imaginable got
to go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
But nice to talk. Thanks, we're talking eels and al export.
A text tour has said there was an early export
factory at Kensington where they worked from nineteen eighty six
to two thousand and eight to export live eels to
China once a week. And I think Kensington's and because
I've checked that hither it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 15 (01:21:06):
So Marcus, I'm bringing you from seven Hawk's Bay. I'm
bringing to tell you a story about in the nineteen sixties.
My grandfather lived in the Vine and he used to
take us children and Easter holidays to go with him
up to the river. That ought's a bit of a

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creek really, that leave leaves the horror Fanto a lake
in live in south of Livin, and that eels would
run from the lake out to the sea for their
migration at Easter time every year. That was quite a thing.

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And mister Ranganui was great friends of my pop and
he would allow Grandad to go and help. That eels
would only run when it was dark. If the moon
came out, they all just stopped running and just slithered
to the sides under the banks and their near shade.

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And they put books up in the creek and then
they would get them out into pits they had dug.
And these eels were taken to Wellington to be smoked.
And I'm not sure whatever else happened to them, but oh,
it was a great lively outfit was slithering eels. Slithering

(01:22:37):
eels excited children and yes, people doing what they had
to do.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
You said the word bork. What's a book.

Speaker 15 (01:22:48):
It was something to impede their their migration, something across
the creek, just to slow them down so the men
could get them. But if or further on down the creek,
because you couldn't do them all. There was just so many,
hundreds of them at a time. If you did and

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make it too difficult for them to flow in the creek,
they would go across land. Especially that the closer they
got to the sea, the migration poll in their bodies
must be so huge that they would slither across the
sand in great numbers to get into the sea.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Did you say, did you say they guessed them?

Speaker 15 (01:23:38):
Yes, that well, yes, they had to guess them to
get them out of them.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
You said, gef, Okay, I thought you said, guests. Okay, gaf,
it makes sense. Okay, I'm understanding that now, yeah, okay, yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:23:49):
Yep, yep. Then they needed some way to pull them
out of the creek. That some of these airs were huge,
you know, they were the ones that were going to
go and provide the next generation wherever they went to.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
What surprises me looking at the lake now right, which
is a fairly big lake quite close to the river.
It's about two kilometers in the river. Because I understand,
I understand eels can live for a hundred years and
they only migrate once in their lifetime. So yeah, I
presume there was only about one hundredth of the eels
from that lake going any one time. There must be

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a lot of eels in that lake.

Speaker 15 (01:24:28):
I would say it's hugely full of eels. Yeah, yep.
So that's a great memory I have as a small person. Now,
my next story is, I have a sister, a lovely
sister who lives and why can I She has a
beautiful garden and at the bottom of her garden is

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a spring fed creek which her and a husband has
built a little bridge over. She goes and stamps her
feet on the bridge, and then she gets a dog
roll and chops off bits of that into the creek,
especially in the summer time, and feeds her family of

(01:25:10):
gills that she has, lightful and they're quite tame, quite tame,
and she loves it when kids come around. She loves kids,
and she can show them. You know, these huge, big
eels that come from oh quite a ways down the creek.
I guess the water takes that it's a dog rolled
down and they can smell it. And yeah, she's quite

(01:25:34):
into that. And she's white baiting to get me a
feed of white bait at the moment, well during the day.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
And where does she go.

Speaker 15 (01:25:45):
Oh, I don't know. It's some creep mirror. It's not
far from her home, but some creek near you can
where you park your cars. I don't know, it's out
why and I beat anyway, But recently she caught a
glass gel in her net and that's the needle that

(01:26:05):
has no color, a very immature one that was returning
to the river. So she released that. So that was
a bit interesting.

Speaker 24 (01:26:15):
Now.

Speaker 15 (01:26:15):
The last thing I want to tell you is here
in Northwood, where I live, we have a Wop Wop
Wetlands Park which is sized in bottom Northward. Very opportunity
to tell you about this at the moment because Phil
who owns the New Zealand Natural Clothing Company, has his

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business in front of this creek which they've developed and
beautified with natives and whatnot. They provide food for the
eels and people can go into the shop and get
their bags of food and then wander out down into
the park and feed the eels and have fun.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Always good if you're on a roady to stop and
feed the els. Kids love it, Yes.

Speaker 15 (01:27:04):
Yes they do. Yep. And lots of things to see
and do in that area. And then yeah, up and
top north there was lots more other things to see,
like trolls. Whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Look, I've never heard such a well organized phone call
as yours. I got a couple of questions. Is the
use it a natural clothing? That's the new name for
norsewear clothing? Is it?

Speaker 22 (01:27:28):
Yes?

Speaker 15 (01:27:29):
The Norse where brand was so just by China, I think, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
I've got to get I've got to get some more
of those socks. I'm into that. Okay, God, I'm nine,
ten and eleven, But that's all right. I can get.
I can work that one out. But the other question
I've got for you, and I love that story about
at the lake at the back of Livin or the
front of Livin and they wouldn't go on the full moon?

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Would they just go for one night or would they
go for a number of successive nights?

Speaker 15 (01:28:03):
It felt like a week. Okay, As a child, it seems.

Speaker 24 (01:28:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:28:09):
It took a lot of energy from a small person.
I can tell you, because we had to go and
help every night out in the dark with our torches
and whatever. It was very exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
And this was with you Did you say this was
with your grandfather or your father?

Speaker 15 (01:28:23):
No, no, my granddad, that's what.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
I thought you said. And was he just did he
eat the heels? He just loved the spectacle of it all.

Speaker 15 (01:28:29):
He was friends with mister Rang and Leui and his
granddad went to help.

Speaker 6 (01:28:35):
Okay, I don't know that.

Speaker 15 (01:28:38):
I can't remember him eating any he might have, but
they were just a couple of good old mates and yeah,
they had a lot of fun together.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
So marvelous story, Heather, thank you so much for that.
Loved all of that every single but fifteen past ten,
we're talking eels. I used to work at a smoked
eel business and why Pocoo Hawks Bay in nineteen eighty
We got eels, kept them in tanks before processing, then
smoked themselves to restaurants. Well, eels were sold live to
live in Levin. Seems to be eels ceeentral, doesn't it,

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So get in touch if you want to talk about
eels and harvesting, commercially harvesting eels, and I think Lake
Elsewhere must have an extraordinary number of eels because yes,

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sometimes the lake gets there's no exit to the lake,
it gets silted up, so they go over land and
there's just tons and tons of eels that have died
on the land trying to get across. Pretty amazing. So
that's what we are talking about. That and dogs, people,

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So come through if you've got anything to talk about tonight,
sixteen past ten, if you want to be a part
of it until midnight tonight, oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty nine nine to text. Eels and dogs and
tethering are also rescue dogs a topic I'd like to
explore more tonight. Yep, yep, So do come through seventeen

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past ten Catches soon. I think the surprising about eels
is there's a huge market in Europe for New Zealand eels,
but it's my understanding that there's not a huge market
in New Zealand for them. I don't know if you're
someone that regularly consumes eels, i'd be curious to know
where you purchase them. And I presume you can't purchase
them live here, maybe you can. What they're doing, they're

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exploring a lot to America. They were sending them in
compressed air. I think. I think that's what they do.
They fly them to New York anethetized and transported and
instate of containers with compressed breathable ear. I think a

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lot of them come from the Wakato twenty past ten
Gordon Marcus Welcome.

Speaker 6 (01:31:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:31:26):
Hi. I used to live in the king Country and
we used to go to a river. It's town of oh.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
The Long River, yep.

Speaker 11 (01:31:40):
And we used to go up this Oho River and
there's a big sheep farm there about oh, I'm only
guessing how about ten thousand plus acres, and they hae
to sport, start with the dogs and stuff and for
all the opal into the river yep, and we go
he down there with a he nacker. You know what

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a he naked is, Yes, the naked and catch up
in twenty minutes. What we do within the river until
we were to touring, take them to the pub and
sell them at the pub. Because there's no eels in
Lake Tavern.

Speaker 10 (01:32:20):
Oh why because because of the sulfur.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
I didn't know that. That's interesting.

Speaker 11 (01:32:28):
All the all the you go to touring and you
go to the lake, it's you can like what pools
all around lead into the lake. There's no eels here,
so we'd go to pub seldom and with some of
my mates we'd take the money and buy and make

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him go on the key and take it back to
the farm. And all the farmers then used to come
in and get under ground.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
What a great life there is.

Speaker 11 (01:32:59):
Oh yeah, this was I'm going back a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
So you know the Ohura River, right, it's a long river.
We're about whereabout Who are you on that river?

Speaker 19 (01:33:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:33:09):
River goes down to wo.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 11 (01:33:16):
My father had a farm.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
Gee. She's a hell of a winding river. That one.
It goes forever, that's right. Oh yeah, I'm looking where
it joins. I'm looking where it joins the one. And
there we were you north? Were you up river or
down river?

Speaker 29 (01:33:29):
Of the intersection up about two k's as a bridge
go across to this big farm sheep farm, yeah, Stephen cattle.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
Yeah, MESSI okay. See there'd be some stories after the
Kig was drunk.

Speaker 11 (01:33:48):
Oh, nobody went to work for I don't drink, so
I didn't get involved with it. Oh yeah, we.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
Got you to go. You got you to go along
with the whole mission, that Gordon, even though you didn't drink.

Speaker 11 (01:34:05):
I reckon, Oh the hobby, Yeah, brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
Yeah, Thatt to talk or to enjoge you a lot.
Thank you, Alistair, Marcus welcome.

Speaker 14 (01:34:17):
Hello Marcus and Marcus. Earlier tonight, it was menting that
eels live one hundred years. I don't know who it was.
Some kinds of whales can live two hundred years, and
I'm just wondering if there's a connection with their hearts

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because they swim so slow, therefore their hearts would go
very slow.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Are you thinking about how quick their heart beats.

Speaker 14 (01:34:53):
Years?

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
It's a very good thing you think of, isn't it.

Speaker 14 (01:34:57):
Well, because they were both animals swim very slow, therefore
their heart would go throw An.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Eel's heart beat two beats per minute, sorry, a whale
two beats per minute.

Speaker 14 (01:35:13):
About the same.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
No, that's the no, that's I've only looked up the whale.
I just mispronounced it.

Speaker 14 (01:35:20):
Oh, maybe a prickery person may like to ring and
ring and tell.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Us all forty beats per minute, still lower than a human.
You'd be you'd be picking eighty, wouldn't you miss? And
he beats per minute.

Speaker 14 (01:35:43):
Adi beats a minute?

Speaker 21 (01:35:45):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
Well, no, that's your heart. What's your heart beat?

Speaker 14 (01:35:48):
Like, I wouldn't have a ready coup. I wouldn't have
a coup. Yeah, my heart is Oh it's it's it's
not too bad, but it could be better.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
Oh that's all right, you're old.

Speaker 14 (01:36:05):
I'm thinking I'm putting my age backs for two years?

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
Really, what four?

Speaker 14 (01:36:12):
So I can start all over again.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
I don't have any regrets. If you've got regrets, No, no,
that's the way. Yeah, got your You've got your how's
your how's your garden going?

Speaker 7 (01:36:28):
Like?

Speaker 14 (01:36:29):
Too bad? I'm going to put some brascs in on
the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
Good time for brescas.

Speaker 14 (01:36:36):
And I dug up my roobarb to shift it. You
had to shift it every two or three years, or
say three years, because otherwise they get woody. Yeah, and
you have to chop them up with a spade and
shift them to another area with figure compost and give

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it a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
Of a threshing too. It likes a bit of a threshing,
doesn't be true. It likes to be treated badly.

Speaker 14 (01:37:03):
They like grass, anything that feeds. Ye, have you got
any in your garden?

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
You just got some more rubabon. I saw Vanissa. She
was in the tunnel house the other day checking a
whole of stuff and she must have done a got
quite of strawberries, lot of tomatoes. Lot of tomatoes come
back every year.

Speaker 14 (01:37:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, rubb was good for pudding.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
Ohs great? Yeah, I want to go to I want
to go to Huntley to try that rhubarb pie that
won the the Pie competition. To remember that.

Speaker 14 (01:37:43):
No, but I think oh rumbab would taste the same.
The best rub barb pipe to grow is the real
skinned one. Yep, mmm, yes, excuse me, well it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
Was a rhubarb and raspberry pie that won the award.
Oh you lovely, sounds delicious? Done it? Yes, it's my Christmas.
I'm going to hunt need to get one?

Speaker 14 (01:38:13):
Are you good on you? Yeah? Half a dozen in
the freezer.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
Good on you? Alista thinks that and I enjoyed the chat.
Eels dogs, the story of your rescue dog. Anyone get
a good one? Anyone get a dud? Probably able to
risk you dog. You can't really take it back and
say one another one because that sort of goes against
the spirit. Just fact checking Gordon the previous caller. There

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plenty of eels in Lake Tope or haven't seen it
have seen and caught hundred all around the lake. Yes,
I wasn't quite true about that. Wasn't quit Sue Why
I didn't drink? I think it was a Mormon. That
was my prediction. Didn't ask it. I think it's any
of my business. What are some good texts, Marcus, A

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bit of fun to share? I've recently heard that there
is an eel festival at Bethel's Beach in the White
Tarks on Saturday, eleventh of October. It's celebrating all the
eels returning from ben and Raratonga, and they come and drives.
Everyone watches them come in and celebrates. Isn't that a
wholesome thing to have happening on the beach, with the
whole of the yeomy, food and music and all the things.
Go Bethel's Beach, get down and welcome the eels. Of

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course they must have got the timing of it right, Marcus.
Mostly the lack of eels around tope War is due
to the presence of pumas that acts as an abrasive
on the gills, Hi, Marcus. Next to Lake Elsmere is
Lake Forsyth. I know if at least two people that
are commercial license to farm eels from their based in

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Little River Township. Very sadly, over the years, I have
witnessed the demise of Lake Forsyth in particularly to a
state of the fish are an edible because if I
suspect wash off of tons of spray and fertilizer seepiche
into the elsmere sow in way hoad water systems, you
can catch awesome tradd its head, but just don't eat
the breasts. Sad brilliant Marcus. I was sitting on a

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park beach late one night at a small beach in
Governor's Bay close to my house. I was having some
alone time after losing a family member. As I sat
there with my eyes closed and joined the peace and
tranquill moment, I jumped out of my seat after a
dog came and stiffy in the crotch. He gave me
a huge fright. It's okayly a dog off his leave.
But after I jumped up in shock and the owner
witnessed it, he never apologized your whistle to his dog,

(01:40:38):
even after I suggested should control his dog. Some dog,
I just think they have special rights. Yeah, dog has
a classic The dog comes running and jump and go
and say Oh that's all right, he won't hurt you
as the kids are traumatized. Oh well, good texts, good
long text Thanks for all the effort.

Speaker 13 (01:41:00):
Does I love a little chat with your news? I am
stuff on. Our family call them tuna because the Fijians,
I think the Maori also called them tuner. And did
you know the tuna from New Zealand? They they they
migrate to the Theotland and they hang out on the
islands and they do migrating.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
Yeah, there's probably this great, big mess of intertwined eels
in the middle of the sea that no one's ever seen.
That sounds pretty amazing, doesn't it.

Speaker 11 (01:41:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:41:30):
Yeah, and I've got a whale story as well.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
Hang on, do you do you do you eat them
on your farm? Or the workers eat them?

Speaker 13 (01:41:38):
The workers eat them? Well, I'm a bit scared from
even though there's a child.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
But how do they how do they cook them?

Speaker 13 (01:41:49):
Five different ways? So they they fright them, They they
sort of carry them, They smoked them. They do a
few different things.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
How do they how do they how do they catch them?

Speaker 9 (01:42:05):
Uh?

Speaker 13 (01:42:06):
So on our farm they just go behind the digger
and grab a stack and just pick them up. When
the diggers clean the drain. I don't know how they
catch up a Fiji. I think they just shove the
air let us go into a drain and pull them
out as the whole.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
So your waterway, we I mean, you're a long way
from the sea. Where does that?

Speaker 7 (01:42:26):
Where is that?

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
Where is your water?

Speaker 13 (01:42:28):
Sh'd go to our farm even though we're close to
like Capo, our farm goes all the way to the
east coast where up on a white river. Yeah, so
our farm as the start of the wyeh that goes
out to him.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
Yeah, to hell of a long to hell of along river. Yeah,
it's tiny in your face, it's like just a meter
across as in your farm.

Speaker 13 (01:42:51):
It's two waterfalls. Yeah, we're the upper. We're the upper
the end of it on one side of the valley.

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
The sauce really and as a source of spring or
it's just.

Speaker 13 (01:43:02):
It's just well one of our waterfalls starts metha haybarn
comes out from under a hay barn like a you know,
like a babbling brook. I guess sort of a biblical book.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
Wow, well yeah, it.

Speaker 13 (01:43:18):
Goes down the valley.

Speaker 9 (01:43:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:43:19):
I remember in the eighties there were some books about
where the river began and you walk up in the valley,
you can tin't find out where it started.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
It is amazing. It is amazing. How far up the
how far up to? Where about? Say you there are
you on? What road are you on?

Speaker 13 (01:43:33):
We're on We're at the big round about the corner
of High one, high twenty nine at Yeah, so it's weird.
It looks like it should go into the river, but
only a hard man he does, or it all goes
to ten.

Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
Yeah, I can't believe it goes that far.

Speaker 11 (01:43:56):
Yeah, it goes so far.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
Okay, I kin'd even say. It's hard to see the
river on your farm though, was it?

Speaker 13 (01:44:04):
Yeah, yeah, it won't. It won't be. It's not a river.
It's just a stream and some waterfalls and no waterfalls
only run half a year.

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
Oh, I see it might be running when when the
things when the photos take it? Okay. Whale story as.

Speaker 13 (01:44:17):
Well, story up and about two thousand and sex or
two thousand and five, we were holding Dan Taranaki with
the Taranaki uh final and there was a big uh
teenage blue whale died and washed up on a big
beach and we did this big walk where you go
down to the beach. It was sort of the other

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side of me from on the off the thirdcase tight highway.
And if you go and take the thick blue whale
with a yeah, put it in twifte print of animals.
So we went there was about five five our kids, yeah,
pushed them along and then had a look at this
big whale. It was about I think I would have
told the story already on It was about two frontier

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tankers long, and it was just like a teenager. Wasn't
even pretty gard.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
Yet and how did how long had it been dead?

Speaker 13 (01:45:09):
I think I've been there for about a week. It
wasn't quite an exploding stage, and it was it was winter,
so that was pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
Yeah, because when they when they explode, it's not good.

Speaker 13 (01:45:19):
Yeah, you don't want to be the kid poking it
with us?

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
No, and were you were you poking it?

Speaker 13 (01:45:26):
I acculd well yeah, and I was like I punish
him anyway.

Speaker 19 (01:45:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:45:35):
Anyway, it's the Russian really, isn't that You don't know
when it's going.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
To Are you doing anything? Are you doing anything on
the farm tonight?

Speaker 13 (01:45:43):
Yeah, I've fxt the water week and I'm just checking
kicking the spring.

Speaker 10 (01:45:46):
Yeah, what's the spring springer.

Speaker 13 (01:45:49):
A pregnant cows of birth.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
Oh yeah, what what cow?

Speaker 13 (01:45:54):
A pregnant cow? Okay, a pregnant cow.

Speaker 2 (01:45:57):
In the last last month of Nice to hear from
your Marty keeping it real. Hold your horses, Shane. I'll
be with you in two ticks. It's need three away
from eleven. Good evening, Shane. It's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
Yeah, you get a Marcus loving your program too, mate.
Always give me a bit of a laugh here and
some of the cause it's very interesting.

Speaker 10 (01:46:17):
God.

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
So where are you calling from, Shane?

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
Down on the Mornington Peninsula, left hand side peninsula, about
one hundred komes out of Melbourne.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
Oh, you're liking the old You Seekers song.

Speaker 3 (01:46:30):
Well, I was thinking when we were kids, Marcus, we
used to have this creek called the cannin or Creek,
and in the Aboriginal name that was clean running water.
But the days we grew up in this creek, it
was an overflow for the suit of the major sewerage
for Melbourne, and some days it had overflow when we
were down the creek and we'd be watching the yields
because they had to struggle for oxygen, and they put

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their heads up and here we are with the Shanghais
and we'd be knocking them off, which is a pretty
horrible thing to do when you think about it, but
as kids you do that. But I had a good
story just a couple of weeks ago. I was a
couple of months ago. Now, I was in the late
part of summer last summer, and I go up and
see a mate up in Barron Bay. You been up
that way.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
A long time ago, and not for not for long
enough to really get the vibe of it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:19):
Yeaht inland, you know about you know, sixty kilometer. There's
a bit hinderland there, quite rain foresty. And I didn't
know the area, but I've been going up for a
couple of years, and I went to this. I found
a good place for a posi to go for a
swim in one of the sort of it's like a
rivery sort of area where there's sort of lagoons. Halfway

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down there's a major public area. And I go up
to this other area near the bridge. And I going
to this bridge, and you know, obviously you go on
to nude and I go for a swim in this
beautiful idyllic lagoon and come up and I'm on just
the gravel, you know, sort of partly in the water.
If you can imagine with me just sitting there, with
me boldly legs there and just enjoying the day and

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just going, my god, this is such a beautiful relief
from the work I do, because I work sort of
heavy stuff in Victory with problems with mental health and stuff,
but generally all of a sudden right in front of me, Marcus,
and I don't know if you've ever seen an electric eel,
but the head is like about I've got a pretty
good hand, a man's hand, and the head was not

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that smaller than that. And here it is right between
my legs, about two or three feet away, just coming
up with the sort of muddy sort of stuff in
the water, and it's got its head just sitting there
looking at me, and I'm looking at it, and I'm
just praying that it holds the stair because I just
sort of wiggled my yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:48:44):
Imagine you want to get the reverse quite quickly. I
don't know electric eel, but have they got yeah? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:48:51):
And I don't know if it was its mate, but
just about a few minutes I was going to be shocked,
you know, I look with snakes or anything anybody out there,
you stay calm. If you can do not move quickly.
You don't move quickly because I always say a snake
or a nil can catch a fish or a mouse
with its head. Believe me, they can catch you quite quickly.

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They want to just be left in a way that's
just mutual, where you just move away slowly, because if
you move quickly, they've got a tendency. That's why most
bites happened with certain things in the wild. People move quickly,
and and animal's instinct is to go either into fight
or flight, and sometimes they fight. But I'm all okay,

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and no injuries, thank god.

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
I'm going to look those up the Electric Eels Show.
It's a good story, and I thank you for that.
Twenty seven seventeen to eleven. Looking around the world free
and used for you tonight, two people. If there's anything
that happening, I'm trying to keep you across all of that.
Denmark seems to be having trouble with drone incursions affecting
their air space. I think drones are going to be

(01:49:56):
this news story of the future. Everything seems to come
back to drones and the harm they can do. Nicholas
Coles there has been found guilty of frominal conspiracy. He
would go to jail for seven years. Remember me, he was
the one that married the singer using funds from Gaddafi.
That seems to be what was going on there. And

(01:50:20):
the other story that's just been released today. As the
reigning the reigning World Marathon Champion Women's marathon champion shwage Eleeni,
aged thirty, she has died. She won the Stockholm Marathon

(01:50:47):
this year, was unwell and training, went to hospital and
has died. So let's just news that's come through. She
won the race in May with a time of two
thirty point three eight so she was sort of the

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champion of the marathon at the moment. So it's hard
to get more details about that story that's just sort
of come through. But do get in touch with you
and talk about eels or about dogs. The number is
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine to nine two
to text yep, So be in touch you want to

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be a part of the show. Mainly it's about eels,
which I've enjoyed. I'll be curious, no who eats eels.
I know who eats them. But you know where you're
buying the Where are you if you're not harvesting your own,
where are you're buying yours from? It seems like we
don't eat too many of them in New Zealand, but
I'll be curious to know what what what ones, how
you're cooking them, and where you are getting them. Yeah,

(01:51:56):
so if you want to talk about that, be nice
to hear from you. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
and nine knowne to to text if you want to talk,
so do come through now. There's other stuff's happening around

(01:52:16):
the world to I'll bring that to you throughout the
course of the evening. Roman will be along at twelve
o'clock tonight. Some texts the Granddaddy eels here underneath the bridge,
eat whole pigeons and chickens. Wow, someone has sent a

(01:52:36):
text that just says x MICUs. Not sure if this
has already been mentioned, as I've just come out, I've
just come on. But I can remember an annual eel
catching event and was a competition as part of the
Sinten Exhibition to celebrate one hundred years of New Plymouth.
I don't know if this still happens. Also, when I
was little, I was swimming in a water hole with

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my siblings and have a memory of my big sister
screaming and climbing out of the hole with an eel
sucked on her big toe. I believe it was a
very large eel. And the lake that everyone tried to
catch I think was catch measure and release competitions. I
know there are eels in the stream that goes right
through the center of dee Plymouth except the who Tokey,

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But there are eels there right at the mouth. You'll
know if you know they're fed. I think it's the
hut Toky stream. Who've got that one right. But this
is some of the stuff we have talked about tonight.
So yeah, eels. But I am curious if you are

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someone that's eating them, where you're getting them from. I
know they export them live to New York, but it
seems that we don't need that many in New Zealand.
It's not a taste we like. It's quite like they've
got quite a few fine bones in them. But yeah,
they're slightly fiddly, but they're delicious, sort of fat under

(01:54:02):
the skin, which is sort of quite interesting. So yes,
but there are if there's any other local news you
want to warn us about. Come through people for anything
that you've got in your area that you need to
know us about. So eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
nine two nine two. Oh there was rugby tonight too,
I wasn't aware of that. Hawk's Bay have beaten Auckland

(01:54:28):
forty five twenty eight, nearly a record. It's a big victory.
That was a home match for them. I don't know
what the actual record was, but they were close to it.
Eight away from eleven o'clock Hittel twelve, seven away from

(01:54:50):
eleven Hittel twelve. Good evening, Rachel Marcus, Hello, Hello, Hi Rachel.

Speaker 18 (01:54:57):
Did you hear the many?

Speaker 2 (01:54:58):
Yes? God got you. God got your good?

Speaker 19 (01:55:02):
When it ill?

Speaker 7 (01:55:03):
We buy it from from am screen we're in Winnington.

Speaker 11 (01:55:07):
Yeah, and we buy it from the shop.

Speaker 7 (01:55:11):
And you know, cree and really yummy.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
So how are they are?

Speaker 24 (01:55:15):
They?

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
Are they smoked?

Speaker 10 (01:55:18):
Not the congret yous? Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:55:23):
And how do you how do you cook them?

Speaker 6 (01:55:27):
We're Islanders?

Speaker 10 (01:55:28):
So we cooked coconut cream.

Speaker 2 (01:55:32):
Yeah, okay, so and and that's even not cooking, is
it's just is it just it's just raw and marinade
and coconut cream, is it?

Speaker 7 (01:55:42):
So what we do is we seen them.

Speaker 6 (01:55:44):
Oh so we see that, and then after that we
put coconut covered in coconut cream.

Speaker 25 (01:55:50):
It's like it's marinated and.

Speaker 7 (01:55:51):
Coconut cream, and then we just bait it under the ovens.

Speaker 6 (01:55:57):
It's like really with onions.

Speaker 2 (01:55:59):
And I was going to say, I'm going to say,
you probably put onion in there? Is it quite fatty
under the skin too.

Speaker 10 (01:56:10):
They've got them there. They buy the more at the creek.

Speaker 22 (01:56:15):
And they're not none of these.

Speaker 19 (01:56:18):
It's ill congo.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
But when it says okay, but how do you know
the conger eels are not just using the native eels?
Would they be those? Okay? Well soon if you're a
Wellington and you'll see them there. Brilliant Rachel. I appreciate that,

(01:56:42):
thank you. Oh yeah, well eel eel, yeah, imagine or
curry would be good. As Marty said that the Fijians
did first generation ki We Dutch parents smoked deal delicious.
Also eels and New Zealand and you plumbouth team flow
through town. I thought you couldn't eat using the eels
these days. Look, I don't know about the I don't

(01:57:03):
know about the doc concerns about I don't know what.
I don't know anything about. Yeah, they might be. I
should have researched that. I don't know if they are.
What the limit is on your end eels if you
can't even harvest them anymore? Oh, no, you can. Just
looking at the quick MPI website. The limit for taking

(01:57:25):
els a six persons per day. They can be either
long fin, short fin, or a mixed recreational fishing rules.
I don't think that that's changed. I don't know how.
I don't know whether the fishery is under pressure or not.

(01:57:49):
But you might have something to say about that. Also, Yeah,
because I think there was a risk of over fishing
with them. But oh it's a good meat source.

Speaker 23 (01:58:01):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:58:02):
Okay, Yeah, I come at them quite often and enjoy them,
but I'll be curious they're what other people do with them,
how they cook them, or where they get them. Maybe
there might be some discussion for the next hour. Also,
so you get in touch Marcus till twelve, anything else
you want to talk about, feel free to come through
and enjoying your calls. People also better talk about dogs

(01:58:29):
with prolonged tethering. They're not words I've ever said before.
But yeah, the days of if you've got neighbors have
got the dogs tied up the whole time, you can
now call animal control and they can They now have
the laws to punish those people. They can find them,

(01:58:50):
and I think they can also take the dogs away
from them, although want you take the dogs away from them,
that's not great because with a number of unwanted dogs,
I imagine it's pretty much a death sentence. That's my
genation anyway, that's the way I imagine it going. So yes,
come through if you want to talk. Marcus still twelve

(01:59:12):
and Romans along from midnight tonight, but be in touch
if you want to be a part of it. Anything
else you want to mention the last hour, you are welcome.
Of course, I wouldn't want to start saying topics you
can't call about. But do come through and call me
during the news if you want to. As I say,
oh eight hundred eighty and nine to nine two to text,

(01:59:37):
so yeah, catch you on the break. Oh, by the way,
breaking news from Hoker. Take a messive hailstorm there, big hail,
So yeah, I hope you're okay there. Let me know
if there's any damage. Also, someone says. In Italy they
have a trap muted return program for dogs. The law
prevents any healthy dog being euthanized, but instead they trap
any stray dog, muted them and return it to where

(01:59:59):
it's come from. Might be worth looking into. Ivan. This
is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 20 (02:00:05):
Yeah, Marcus, how I you good?

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
Thank you?

Speaker 10 (02:00:07):
Evan.

Speaker 20 (02:00:08):
Yeah, I heard you talking earlier on about tethered dogs. Yeah,
I'm a farmer. I've got one dog and I'd tether
him on a twenty liter drum. Oh yeah, So he
actually when I had been working him in the morning
or something like that, and I come in for lunch,
I just took him onto the drum and he can

(02:00:30):
roam around the property without going outside the property because
he can't go under the fences, and he can't go
under gates or over the gates because the drum it's
hooked up.

Speaker 2 (02:00:40):
So as the drum also for him to shelter run
as a drum on outside.

Speaker 20 (02:00:44):
No, no, it's only twenty leaders.

Speaker 2 (02:00:47):
Oh, I see what you're saying.

Speaker 20 (02:00:49):
And he's a big dog, so twenty leads drum. And
he used to go up to the neighbors and visit
the neighbors all the time. And he used to crawl
under the gate and wander on up the road. So
I got the drum, put the drum on him, and
for the first two or three times i'd come along,
he be on one side of the gate and the
drum would be on the other and he'd be stuck.

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But now he doesn't even bother to try to get
under the gate.

Speaker 2 (02:01:15):
And the drum's empty.

Speaker 10 (02:01:17):
Is it?

Speaker 20 (02:01:18):
He has an empty drum.

Speaker 2 (02:01:19):
Oh, that's and that seems quite He's quite happy with.

Speaker 10 (02:01:22):
That, is he.

Speaker 20 (02:01:23):
Yeah, he's quite happy. He too, rules along with the
drum behind him. And you know, I know he's on
the property all the time. Then if I'm inside having
lunch for an hour or so, I know he'll be
out there sitting there with his drum when I come out.

Speaker 2 (02:01:39):
Is he good working? Is he good working dog?

Speaker 20 (02:01:41):
Yeah, he's a good working dog. He's a good farms
a lot of going him, and but he had just
too much going him. He'd always go and visit the neighbors. Yeah,
and that was the way I stopped him visiting the neighbors.

Speaker 2 (02:01:54):
It's interesting, OK, thanks for that. There we go nine
past eleven Marcus. In the early seventies, I worked for
rights in the NMA fisheries and Gisbon. We had a
mess of stain the steel container like you see in
the old milking shit. A guy used to come and
with a truck with a tank on the back and
unload the eels into our tank. We would swim them
for a few days to empty them out, changing the
water every day. Then drain most of the water out

(02:02:15):
and connect the generator up and give them a shock.
You would see them all stand on end. We did
this two or three times to make sure they're all dead.
Then packed up in long carts and froze and they
went to Germany when we had a load ready. Wow,
that's how they kill them, ay with a zap zapp.

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So there we go. We're talking eels and tethering dogs.
Sets the two topics for tonight. So last hour. I
don't know what Roman will be on about. Roman, but
you're getting touched you on talk about these things. That's
the vibe for tonight. I don't know about that with
the drum. Would that be frustrating? I don't know what
you want to say about that. I couldn't quite get

(02:03:03):
what he was saying there for but sorry, but slow
on that one. Yeah, so it do come through. Anything
else you want to mention this final hour, good good ish.
I suppose someone said, is an eel a fish or

(02:03:30):
a snake? It's a good question. I presume an eel
is a fish? But how do they breathe? Is an
eel of fish? Someone might answer that eels fish? How
do they survive so long out of the water. That's well,

(02:03:53):
I don't understand how they survive. They feel very primordial
out they're from years and years ago. It's my take
on it. But yes, eleven past eleven, it's eels that
is the topic of the moment. Eels and anything else

(02:04:15):
you want to talk about tonight. Remember it's the local
body elections. It's your chance to vote, so you want
to be voting in the next day or two. Well,
it's city within the next week. That's important. Otherwise you
vote won't count because you've got to post them these days.
So you want to leave time for posting them and
make the effort please people. That's fairly important. So yes,

(02:04:40):
eels and dogs and daylight savings. It starts this weekend.
I'm ready for it. Some people say it's too soon.
I think it's too late. But yeah, I'm ready for it.
So that might be something you want to mention, but
do come through if you want to talk about that
or anything else tonight, So get in touch and eight

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hundred and eighty eighty nine nine to text and any
other newsfl around the world. I'll do my dawn is
to get that to you. But yeah, let's be hearing
from your thirteen past eleven. It's not sorry, I was
going to say that it's nine fifteen. It's eleven fifteen.
And if you've just joined the show, greetings and welcome.
My name is Marcus. Here to midnight tonight. We are
talking eels. I don't know why we got talking. Oh

(02:05:27):
there's a story about eels about Pete Richmond. People south
of Nelson kids had been hacking into eels with the
machetes and stuff and just got us talking about the
eel industry in New Zealand. And it's been quite interesting discussion.
We've talked about that and tethering of dogs laws have
come into effect today that if it seemed as though

(02:05:50):
dog control officers and SBCA could never do anything about
tethered dogs, it wasn't deemed to be cruel. But they've
changed that. So now if dogs are tethered, and there's
a couple of mitigating factors like if they're if it
seems to be harmful for the dogs, then they can
actually find you for that. And it seems to have

(02:06:13):
been fairly well controlled tethering they call it, but it
seems to have been every well received piece of legislation.
So if you want to talk at that also, they's
talk right about tonight. But mainly it's eels prolonged tethering. Sorry,
not controlled tethering. Prolonged tethering we have talked about. But yep, yep, Maggie,

(02:06:43):
it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 7 (02:06:46):
Hi, match Just how are you? I just wanted to say,
my mum we grasped in a small town and we
used to go ealing. But my mum always hand the
eels on the line for four days, hang them up
to bleed them.

Speaker 17 (02:07:03):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:07:03):
I knew you had to do something like that. I
knew you had to put them in.

Speaker 7 (02:07:06):
Free, beautiful, beautiful to eat. Oh so she's always hung
them high up with the skin on, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:07:16):
Yeah, and then Meggie, how would she cook them?

Speaker 7 (02:07:20):
And they were fried?

Speaker 11 (02:07:21):
Okay, the lesson.

Speaker 2 (02:07:23):
Yeah, I'm surprised it's not more because people love it.
I'm surprised it's not more. I mean, you never see
it out. You don't often see restaurants cooking eels or
it's anywhere. It seems as though we're seen in most overseas.

Speaker 7 (02:07:34):
It's really weird, isn't It's like rabbit. We grew up
with rabbits, which the boys, my brothers and dad used
to go rabbit shooting. Her Oh my god, the rabbits
caserroles were just divide.

Speaker 2 (02:07:46):
We're about the odd.

Speaker 7 (02:07:48):
We'd get the odd talet there though, have sit.

Speaker 2 (02:07:53):
Meggie? Whereabouts? Was this was your upbringing?

Speaker 7 (02:07:56):
I grew up in Seaclists. We're the first mental hospital
in New Zealand was built. And I've got another little story.
When I was thirteen, I was quite a good hockey
player for high school and dneed weed to travel into
the city every day high school and I was billeted
from this lovely family and bluff. So I was down

(02:08:17):
the bluff. We were playing in Vocagle. I got billeted
by this family and bluff and one of the girl
that I was with that billeted me. We went to
the local dairy and the proprietor said, oh, where are
you from? Lettie speak?

Speaker 18 (02:08:32):
He said, oh, wow, you must be having a great
break so lot, I was so so disappointed, and I
know I'm not.

Speaker 7 (02:08:46):
From the hospital, you know, I was so I thought,
what did she? He was lovely though, but you know
he was from the mental hospital.

Speaker 2 (02:08:56):
Was your family from the rail Were you railway family?

Speaker 14 (02:08:59):
No?

Speaker 7 (02:09:00):
No, My my mother and father were psychiatric nurses.

Speaker 8 (02:09:04):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (02:09:06):
But we had a full railway station then the old
trains coming in there. We had a station master and
everything in those days.

Speaker 14 (02:09:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:09:14):
The school there was two hundred kids went to seek
the school when I went there.

Speaker 2 (02:09:19):
Every time I've gone there, every time I've gone there, Meggie,
I'm not quite sure. Because I know the history of it.
I've always found it quite a quite a foreboding kind
of a place. It's always freaked me out a little bit.
Sea Cliff. I don't yeah, I don't go running back there.

Speaker 7 (02:09:33):
My father was born in a little house for here,
isn't the.

Speaker 2 (02:09:36):
Wow, So he was he was, he was, he was
born there and then he ended up working there.

Speaker 14 (02:09:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:09:43):
Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:09:46):
All the people in the village worked there. They either
worked as cherry farm sec before Areka Nui, where the
three mental hospitals. Seek the hospital was the first, and
that was a beautiful old building. And my grandfat was
a head superintendent.

Speaker 10 (02:10:01):
Of the hospital. Wow.

Speaker 7 (02:10:04):
So everyone had connections there and it wasn't as bad
as people's thoughts. There's lots of really stupid stories about
mental hospital, you know. I mean there's weird, weird things.

Speaker 2 (02:10:14):
But I guess it was just normal for us because
I knew about Cherry Farm and Seacliff was Orakan Now
I know that's now where the sanctuary is. Where was
the hospital there?

Speaker 7 (02:10:26):
That's why Katty right at the bottom of this sanctuary. Okay, Yeah,
there's a wee inland road not far from the main
what was the main road? It's just you turn left
into this down this little road and there was mathis Are.
Hospital was huge and beautiful through the ground.

Speaker 2 (02:10:49):
I never knew anything. And when did it burn down
or what happened to it?

Speaker 7 (02:10:53):
No, No, they closed the hospitals down I think in
nineteen seventy three, seventy one, between seventy one and seventy three.
Very sad really because you know a lot of the patients,
some of them should never have been you know, used
to get locked up with stealing a bike in the
early days, it was an embarrassing to the family, you know,
and and woman that had thyroid problems with classes being

(02:11:16):
really mad that he put into those places and never
got out.

Speaker 14 (02:11:20):
Really.

Speaker 7 (02:11:21):
Yeah, you know, it was pretty severe in some ways,
but it also helped a lot of people, you know
as well. You know, there were some good things about
it too that you know, there was self sufficient hospitals
in those days.

Speaker 9 (02:11:33):
When I was a child, I never knew.

Speaker 2 (02:11:36):
I've always felt why Testy always gave me the hebgb's
a bit too. I didn't realize that there was a
hospital there. That's a bit of interest to me. I
reckon he woll.

Speaker 14 (02:11:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:11:45):
Now it's just all gone to wreck and ruin. Really,
it's it's been privately sold off and it's just I
went up there recently and I was really shocked. But
there's the talk one of the tallest trees in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (02:11:57):
Look, Maggie, look I have I have taken the children
there and we've gone and walked down to see the
tallest tree. We've worked out from how high it was
by triangulation. So yeah, so we're we're probably we are
probably the leading family in this country that spends time
with that tallest tree because it's good and it's a gum,

(02:12:17):
but it's a gum, but it's it's quite spectacular. Yeah,
it must be about ninety meters high. Now, yeah, it
is amazing.

Speaker 7 (02:12:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:12:24):
I think I think Dunedin should make more of a
song and dance about it.

Speaker 7 (02:12:27):
I do too.

Speaker 2 (02:12:28):
Nobody seems to know, no, and I can understand when
you go to the you know, to the physics center
at the top, that they're about the wildlife of the natives.
But still it's a hell of an impressive tree. And
well there's a whole grove of trees there is.

Speaker 7 (02:12:43):
Yeah, and that sanctuary is absolutely amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:12:46):
Yeah yeah, better get back there, you go.

Speaker 7 (02:12:50):
Yeah, I Q one more, one more week. I'm very
happy to tell you that my son just moved back
to Bluss from Singapore twenty years offshore in shipping. Now
he's one of the managers down there and I go
down there all the time. He lives in no REGI
beat my god. I'm in love with the whole area.

Speaker 2 (02:13:09):
Oh yeah, well, I love bluff bluff of sense, bluffer, sensational.

Speaker 7 (02:13:16):
Oh it's such as you. I want to live there.

Speaker 18 (02:13:19):
Mark, do you know any rental property?

Speaker 27 (02:13:22):
It is?

Speaker 2 (02:13:23):
It is sense. But the thing is about bluff. It's
not changing. I mean, you know, it's not sort of,
it's not like everyone love. It's still got that old quaintness.
So it's not like it's there's not they're not coming
in and droves. But Maggie, you never know. It'd be
nice to have you there. Twenty three past eleven, Lorraine,
it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 5 (02:13:44):
Hi, Marcus. I wanted to tell you about the eels
and make force life that migrate over the Shingle banks
on Birdling Flat out to see at certain times of
the year. We had gone down to visit Birdling Flat.
It's a giant, giant pebble beaches, and we saw these

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two young men digging on the lakeside of the Shingle
Bank and wondered what on earth they were doing, because
you'd take one shovel fall out and two would fall in,
and anyway, they were actually digging trenches. One of the
family went down, had a yarn to them and they
were digging trenches for each of their tribes, and the

(02:14:31):
eels that migrated up into the trenches that night they
would get as there.

Speaker 3 (02:14:39):
To cook.

Speaker 5 (02:14:39):
They had someone was up on the hill with a
big bonfire getting it ready, and the eels were then
harvested out of the trenches up into their pans at the.

Speaker 2 (02:14:53):
Barbecue and with the Were these eels coming back from sports? No,
these were the eels on their way out?

Speaker 17 (02:15:01):
Is that right?

Speaker 5 (02:15:02):
Yes, they lived in the lake and then they would
they would leave the lake and go out to seed
the breed or whatever. So it intrigues me because that's
from fresh water to salt water. And then they come
back again, apparently.

Speaker 2 (02:15:20):
But I don't think they come back again. I think
their babies come back again, which is an extraordinary long
journey for a tiny thing to come back, and they
go exactly where they were, where their parents were from.

Speaker 12 (02:15:30):
And I don't think.

Speaker 2 (02:15:30):
I mean, there's remarkable forces we don't know about that
happens with them.

Speaker 5 (02:15:35):
You'd get over those shingle beaches because they're enormous and
no easy way to do it. It's quite a steep
access from the ocean. But last year I went to
Twysol to check out the native trout that do the same.
They migrate from the sea up the rivers and when

(02:15:57):
they get to the head of the river and twysol
they actually die, they mate and lay whatever little trout
our eggs or something I suppose, and then when they hatch,
they eat the parents that are lying they're dead, providing food.
And then they migrate down the river out to the ocean.

(02:16:21):
And the Mary's put a thing on the river so
you can't even stick your big toe in if you
in the river. It's all very sacred, so you just
stay out of it. When these their dear little fish,
when they're all breeding and migrating and doing all the things.

(02:16:42):
But again they go from salt water to fresh water.
And then the babies, when they hatch and get strong enough,
they then migrate back to sea, from fresh water to
salt water. Big difference.

Speaker 2 (02:16:57):
I've got no idea. I've got no idea how the
baby eels cat. I think they're just lying on the
currents to come all that way back. But still how
they find where they need to go is kind of
quite remarkable.

Speaker 5 (02:17:07):
Wow, Yes, incredible, Because there doc or whoever spent a
fortune millions and millions of dollars getting lakes foresights cleaned
up and beautiful, and then the first storm that came
through washed all the stuff from the hills and the
farms and things back into the lake and it was

(02:17:29):
it was gone again.

Speaker 2 (02:17:30):
Yeah, okay, yes, it's.

Speaker 5 (02:17:31):
Like make Ellesmere. It's so polluted and yet you know
there's beautiful soul and fishing things in there that people
catch and eat.

Speaker 2 (02:17:43):
Got to run. But nice to talk. Thank you for that, Lorraine.
It's half past eleven. Hello, Kirie, this is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 10 (02:17:49):
Marcus welcome.

Speaker 6 (02:17:53):
I get the lodging in their farmer with the drum.

Speaker 2 (02:17:57):
Yeah, well I'm a dog. I'm not a dog person.
I was worried about the response to that.

Speaker 25 (02:18:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:18:03):
Yeah, Well, apart from the frustrations point of beauty of
the doll, it just what's cruel. It just looks a
bit mean, that's just white. So anyway, I mean, he's
probably better off to put it on a on.

Speaker 28 (02:18:15):
A run, you know, like just have a wire going across.

Speaker 6 (02:18:18):
Just if it's going to be short term, just put
you know, well, there is both.

Speaker 2 (02:18:22):
The dog would also be running a hell for leather
and then then get under the gate and then the
barrel could just stop and just yank him back by
his head, couldn't it.

Speaker 6 (02:18:35):
Yeah, not really into that, and it just didn't know anyway,
moving on, Hey, I know how much love goats, and
you could probably put a ghost in the same category,
couldn't you like to the dog on a chain? But
you know, I know for us, but we've got ghosts, but.

Speaker 28 (02:18:54):
We keep them in a panic and they've got no
you know, they've got no chain.

Speaker 6 (02:18:58):
They just run free. But we do have a big
luscious bent that they love going up on, and we
have a wire sort of going from one end to
the other, and then we just put them on the
wire and they can move. But you can probably put
a goat in the same category, can you.

Speaker 2 (02:19:14):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think a tear that goats a
good thing.

Speaker 6 (02:19:20):
But yeah, anyway, I'm just coming in tire happy. I've
just got somebody on here.

Speaker 2 (02:19:26):
How's the weather.

Speaker 6 (02:19:29):
It's just starting to a little bit of a few
drops on the window there, But you've got about when
we got macas, we've got about ten degrees and Ti
hippy at the moment. Okay, it's all wrong the road.

Speaker 2 (02:19:43):
The volcano hasn't erupted.

Speaker 6 (02:19:46):
Lah love, but yeah, we use it as a bit
of advertising. A few years ago, somebody sitting on the
bus on the laptop of the volcano erupted in the background.

Speaker 30 (02:19:56):
I thought there was a different anyway, I'm going to
go Matris thinks nice tear for me, Carrie, thanks twenty
nine away from twelve Eels and Goats and dog animal
show tonight.

Speaker 2 (02:20:07):
That's a good thing. So that's something you want to
add to the discussion or talk about. Good over Sixty
years ago, as a young kid, I caught an eight
pound eel in a fishing contest at Hamilton Fishing in

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the Waiketa River. It was four feet long and fat.
It gave me more of a fight than any seafish,
or gave me a fight more than any seafish similar weight.
I thought it was going to drag me in. That's
from Malcolm Marcus. Were you aware that there is a
drop zone for putting your voting paper and at Woolworths

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and you were another places too, and in Vericago, which
is great because the severe lack of postboxes these days.
I'm finding it great as time goos by, because the
infighting at the council is just great to see. I'm
finding it great as time goes on because the infighting
at the council is just great to see. How they're acting.
If I want to vote for people wanting to fight

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over where they're a statue of two labs in air Street. Well,
also I need to believe they are not fish. It's
important you vote and vote for some new blood. But yes,
he says, hasn't been a great three years. I don't
think from the outside looking and it's been a shocker.

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If it has fins, it's a fish. Snakes don't have fins. Marcus.
In my stream of a three and a half foot
eel who I have tained. You can pick her up,
a patter, etcetera. Loving the show, cheers Rick Marcus. Dad
used to play cricket and Gladstone the Wided Upper. While
he did that, we had a farm tour and one
of the activities was pulling up the eel traps from

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the local river. They were full of short fin eels.
I don't know where Gladstone is in the Wided Upper.
That's not a place I know. Huh. Always good to
find a new town. I look that up on the map.
Have I even been there? H oh, yes, Gladstone. It's

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kind of out the back between martin Borough and Marsterton.
Never heard of it. Not much there that was there. Oh,
there's a school, a little bit of stuff there. It's
good to know. Hello, deal on, Marcus, Welcome, I am Marcus.

Speaker 10 (02:22:56):
Quick quick story. I just I just woke up and
heard you're talking about eels and stuff slightly unrelated. But
I was a place called Mdang in Papua New Guinea.
I would have been about fifteen fourteen, fifteen thirteen maybe,
and my dad's wife now who was her girlfriend, his

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girlfriend at the time. We were snorkeling, and all of
a sudden I saw her almost walking on water, and
she was saying, see snake, see snake, see snake, and
she'd obviously seen a sea snake. I thought that was
quite funny, because wow, you know they can be I

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don't believe it was a poisonous one at the time,
but we didn't get.

Speaker 14 (02:23:45):
Out of the water.

Speaker 9 (02:23:46):
No, I call that.

Speaker 2 (02:23:48):
I thought. You see, she was almost walking on water
because there were so many of them, but there was
just one, and she was terrified. That's why I must
have beat on your story exactly.

Speaker 10 (02:23:56):
Well, that's well, that's kind of a yeah. I didn't
tell it quite well enough.

Speaker 2 (02:24:01):
Oh it was good, but she was she clearly knew
about it and she was terrified.

Speaker 10 (02:24:06):
Yes, in my head, it's like a cartoon.

Speaker 7 (02:24:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:24:12):
So yeah, you've got a visual way of seeing things. Yeah, okay,
I don't know. Do people get by sea snakes. I
know there's those ones that have been washed up on
New Zealand recently, three or four in the last year,
and they've said they'll kill your dog. You got to
you know, you've got to be careful of them.

Speaker 10 (02:24:29):
One of the most venous snakes in the world is no,
the most venomous snake in the world is a sea
snake gets found in our waters.

Speaker 14 (02:24:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:24:40):
I don't recall what it's called.

Speaker 7 (02:24:41):
I just saw that on a.

Speaker 10 (02:24:44):
Stuff quiz or something like that.

Speaker 2 (02:24:46):
I wonder why they need to be so venomous.

Speaker 10 (02:24:50):
Who knows.

Speaker 2 (02:24:51):
Maybe they know more than we do, because you think
if a shout comes and get you the venetu it,
you'll be gone before.

Speaker 25 (02:24:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:24:57):
I'll find out more, Dan, I'm going to research that.
Twenty four to twelve. Welcome Hurdle twelve. Good evening. I
hope you've enjoyed the show, not winding it down. I
had to call there, kat Kik guess the call back, Katie.
Don't know what happened to you to get stage fright.
I always enjoy a song about always enjoy a call
about eels. I was just looking for a song about eels.

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I don't think you're going to play one, by the way,
I don't like an obvious song. Always seems a bit corny.
But yeah, if you want to be on here, that's
good to hear from you. Get in touch here till
twelve o'clock tonight. Tomorrow will be the first last day
of the school holidays. No so the last day of
the first week, which has been remarkably productive at my end,

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had great activities. Hi Katie, welcome.

Speaker 8 (02:25:46):
Hello.

Speaker 31 (02:25:47):
I'm from North London. When I was a kid, we
did a lot of ailing and I was sort of fascinated,
but I was scared as well, and we my brother
and I and some of the neighboring kids from this
the farms would boil up all the eels in a

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big five gallon can and feed them to the trucks,
and Mum swore that was why the trucks and the
ducks laid so well. We never ate them ourselves, but
when when we had sheerers staying, for instance, and they

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would it would come a meal time, and they's talk
about the eels and Mom would say, that's fine as
long as you cook it, and I'm not going to
and they would, they would cook the eels.

Speaker 2 (02:26:45):
It's amazing how far up how many rivers miles from
sea there always seems, you know, every river there always
seems to be eels. They just get everywhere.

Speaker 14 (02:26:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 31 (02:26:55):
Yeah, And we used to have a big old cat
who used to when it was raining and the flooding,
that the eels would migrate across the paddox to another
creek or something. And this cat would catch an eel
and take it home and put it in the concrete
water drum, concrete tub washing tub because it knew that

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it couldn't get out of that. I thought it was
really clever.

Speaker 2 (02:27:24):
One amazing thing.

Speaker 14 (02:27:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 31 (02:27:27):
And by the way, baby heel is called an elva.

Speaker 13 (02:27:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:27:31):
Okay, and where are you? Are you still up north? Katie?

Speaker 10 (02:27:34):
I am god?

Speaker 2 (02:27:35):
Okay. Well, look nice to hear from you, and thank
you for calling back. I do appreciate that. Nineteen to
twelve and looking forward to you if you want to
talk about it. Marcus, Are you on until early morning?
I work every night till midnight. Hi, Marcus. This is

(02:27:56):
Joshua Beatty from Ballarat, Victoria, Australa. I've heard that you
people are moving away from the country and particularly moving
to Australia. What do you think is the driver behind this?
Could next year election have people returned to the country.
Thank you, Marcus. Oh, I think people are going for God,
They're not going temporarily. They've had it. Yeah, it's a

(02:28:17):
good question. I mean, if you ask the question to
me what is wrong with New Zealand, I would say
a crisis of imagination within the government and it's not good.

(02:28:39):
And I guess people don't know what the future for
New Zealand is. I don't think they know what New
Zealand's focus is going to be. Obviously farming is not
going to last forever. Well it might, but I suspect
it probably won't. And what are the new income streams
for New Zealand going to be? It doesn't appear to

(02:28:59):
be tourism. We seem to have cooked that one. So yeah,
I think people are on certain now there's talk of
the as aging population and having GST to go up
to thirty five percent. I think I was reading articles
today about some Treasury papers jeep its creepers anyway. I

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don't know the answer to that, but yeah, people are
moving and I think it will increase. Here's one of
those things that becomes contagious. The more people go, the
more people think about it, and the more think, wow,
we probably should so, Joshua, that's my answer to you.
But nice to know you're listening in Australia. It's seventeen

(02:29:46):
away from twelve o'clock. If you want to be a
part of the show, we're talking eels and dogs and
if there's something different you want to mention. Zech Is
texted evening Marcus. It's a bit off topic, but I
was reading an article today about the chat control bill
in Europe that will be voted about on October. The

(02:30:07):
potential ramifications are interesting and complete violation of human rights.
Every private message, photo and file you send get scanned
automatic by AI. AI is unreliable. I don't trust it
to scan personal stuff. It doesn't even it doesn't even
need suspicion or a warrant. If this has been proposed,
to imagine what's to come. I don't know much more

(02:30:27):
about it, but yeah, I haven't heard of that, but
thank you. The chat control Bill, I've heard nothing about that.
By the way, the new moon, yes said, looked amazing.
You see that one sixteen away from twelve. It's fourteen

(02:30:51):
to twelve and Roman will be along at midnight. I
need some calls to get me through to the end.
If you want to be that person, that'd be great
to hear from you, So I get in touch if
you want to talk about eels or daylight savings or
tethering of dogs, because that tethering laws come in today,

(02:31:15):
so that's timely. You can't tear the dogs now, well
you can a little bit, but you know they've got
ways to now prosecute you if they're not happy with it.
Several conditions around that, and I think it's a very
very good thing. I'm still staggered by that news today
that there's well and so the news that's someone brought
up again today, but I've discussed it on the show.

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Well that sounded it pompous, isn't it. Eleven thousand dogs
euthanized euthanized I can't remember which it is annually in Auckland. Wow,
it's a lot of irresponsible owners and gosh, all dog
owners swear how good they are. At it at owning dogs.

(02:31:57):
But boy, oh boy, there's some duds amongst them. So yep,
that's what we are talking about tonight. But jump in
if you want to talk. My name is Marcus Httle twelve.
Anything else you want to mention as far as international
news tonight or today, well, I mean really, when I've

(02:32:21):
been tonight, I mean while I've been on air. Yeah,
I don't know if there's anything that I've got for
you that's devastating. As far as the news of the
world goes, America seems chaotic. Nicholas Sarkose is found guilty

(02:32:42):
of conspiracy. He used money for his two thousand and
seven campaign, which was money he got from the government
of Gaddafi, the Libyan government. Well that is highly questionable.
Of course. He's the guy that's married to Brunie. Is
that right, the singer Carla Bruney, because she's now Carla Bruniose.

(02:33:05):
She was the great singer of the generation for wasn't she.
I don't know if she's still singing or not. But
do come and if you want to talk about any
of these things or anything else you want to talk
about dog tethering and eels and say there'd be the

(02:33:28):
three topics of tonight. If you want to add to
it the discussion good come through my headphones back on
as I await the cavalcade of calls before. Then keep
the texts coming through to people. If you've got texts,
it's always good, Marcus. My grandkid's fox terrier is a

(02:33:58):
frequent flyer. They can't leave him on the farm. When
they flow to christ Church to visit me. He flies
with them. Mark, the guy I told you about got
the heels from up Lake wai katamawaid away, which is
a long way from the sea. Good evening, Terry, this

(02:34:22):
is Marcus.

Speaker 9 (02:34:22):
Welcome focus.

Speaker 24 (02:34:25):
Did you on your train trips did you ever go
to Melatah straight?

Speaker 2 (02:34:33):
Tell me where that is?

Speaker 24 (02:34:34):
Again, it's in the very plinky tony Mettah. And then
you have little villages like Osa, Morocco, Pokahina on.

Speaker 2 (02:34:45):
The coast there is it, yes.

Speaker 24 (02:34:49):
And not so much yeah, and then you go to
Punk Cohen in pining.

Speaker 2 (02:34:55):
All to Poky Yeah, I know the line.

Speaker 6 (02:34:58):
Yeah, yeah, Well.

Speaker 24 (02:34:59):
That's where we used to do in a way.

Speaker 31 (02:35:03):
Uh.

Speaker 24 (02:35:03):
I used to do the ealing down me and it
was quite good too.

Speaker 2 (02:35:07):
Were you doing it commercially?

Speaker 23 (02:35:09):
No?

Speaker 7 (02:35:10):
Just I'll bey you.

Speaker 24 (02:35:12):
You said in your description they quite bony and all that,
and in the in the the skin is real early
and in fact, and oh Marcus, they're beautiful smoke.

Speaker 2 (02:35:25):
By that and yeah, I've got to make that brings
me them around quite often. And it's it's not so, yeah,
it's not so. It's not like anything else really is it.

Speaker 24 (02:35:35):
It's a it's a delicacy. I believe you give me
a lover of breath and I'll eat their skin just
like that. Mate.

Speaker 2 (02:35:41):
Oh yeah, I can hear you. I can hear you
with that one.

Speaker 26 (02:35:45):
I just don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:35:46):
I just don't know why it's not more used and
more evasive. Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 24 (02:35:51):
Well, well, well if you look at the Maori pop
and the Polynesian population, they all eat it, yeap. And
what's what's that on New Zealand? Is that decent?

Speaker 10 (02:36:04):
Would it?

Speaker 24 (02:36:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (02:36:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (02:36:06):
And so they were he didn't because because they love
this stuff. And but it's funny, it's not in the
prison ship shop in the no.

Speaker 2 (02:36:16):
And the Europeans love it, the Americans love it. But
did did they put them in hangy?

Speaker 17 (02:36:22):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (02:36:22):
Or they cock them that they wouldn't cock him like that,
would they of course Okay, didn't know that.

Speaker 24 (02:36:28):
Yeah, yeah, it all depends on how their family fields,
if they want to stem them, dry them and there
he used to powerfully mudd AND's got their word quite right,
and that to drive them and hang them on the clothesline.

Speaker 2 (02:36:42):
Yeah sure, someone said that later on that earlier on
they were talking about that.

Speaker 24 (02:36:47):
Yeah, but but it's beautiful. And I never used to
hear easy even though I come from the Cords, were
never used to eat them. But when I moved to
the Bay, it was beautiful.

Speaker 7 (02:36:57):
Now.

Speaker 24 (02:36:57):
I just wanted to mention you about my dog.

Speaker 2 (02:37:00):
Sure, Marcus, I hate dogs, yes, the.

Speaker 24 (02:37:06):
Run them over. And now my next door neighbor Aeron, Oh.

Speaker 2 (02:37:09):
You can't say that, but anyway that yeah, okay, cause
people get upset by that, but keep going.

Speaker 24 (02:37:14):
Yep, sorry about half dogo Marcus. But Aaron said to me, Ad,
can you look after my dog? I'm going to Australia.

Speaker 10 (02:37:23):
I didn't.

Speaker 24 (02:37:25):
You know, I don't like dogs there, and look it's
just for a week and yeah listen there. And then
when he came back, Marcus, the dog wouldn't go home.

Speaker 2 (02:37:37):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 24 (02:37:39):
He stayed with me for fifteen years. And you know
what the Marcus I love their dog.

Speaker 2 (02:37:46):
Yeah, there was a.

Speaker 24 (02:37:49):
Rich Beck Rhodesian ridgebank.

Speaker 2 (02:37:52):
Oh, I know they're rich beec Yeah, my cousins had
a ridge back. They're quite a they're quite a nice dog.

Speaker 24 (02:37:57):
Well they're they're bicky. Could just help put a several
on them.

Speaker 2 (02:38:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (02:38:03):
Then the poor thing I got out the writers, you know,
I took him to the what if you call them
and put him down? But yes, the animal dog I
loved Marcus.

Speaker 2 (02:38:15):
Did they own or not want it back?

Speaker 26 (02:38:18):
No?

Speaker 24 (02:38:18):
He wanted to be but I wouldn't go home and
there and what did you do with the dog?

Speaker 12 (02:38:22):
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 24 (02:38:26):
Isn't that a good story?

Speaker 8 (02:38:27):
Marketing?

Speaker 2 (02:38:28):
And he said you'd better have it then? Is that
what he said?

Speaker 24 (02:38:30):
That's what he said.

Speaker 2 (02:38:33):
Yeah, I like I like your story, Tea. I like
the way into it. Yeah, it was a good intrade
to that story. Yeah, because I had us, you had
I thinking your dog had to end up being a
dog lover a. That's what dogs do. Apparently, almost time
for me to shuffle off.

Speaker 26 (02:38:51):
Roman.

Speaker 2 (02:38:51):
As I've said, it'll be along next and I will
be back tomorrow night. Got a big lead game on
tomorrow and haven't. We've got the semi final tomorrow night,
so I'm looking forward to that. I leave that on
the background as I go about my work tomorrow, not

(02:39:13):
apologizing for that, but yeah, let me say any more texts.
But I was just thinking about that. Yeah about the
railway series, Yeah there was. I did film on that
railway series. I was thinking about that. But was the
railway line that went from from Murdapata into that was

(02:39:36):
the line that we went on on the logging train.
I remember that quite well. Actually I forgot about that whole.
I think they had a female locomotive driver. That's what
was interesting. Then up the coast to the Port Todonger.
Let me say some any texts. I promised to you
that before the end of the show. A lot of

(02:40:04):
people say how much they love living in New zeal
or some people say how much they love living in
New Zealand. Good on you. I think you can. I
think you can love living in New Zealand, but you
can also still think that it's gonna it could well
be a better place if there was better government and
better decisions were made. I think you'd also be able

(02:40:24):
to comment that we've had better times and hopefully have
better times as well in the future. I didn't said
that I was moving or haven't threatened to move, but yeah,
we've got to be robust for you can't just still
say how fantastic it is. You've got to be robust
enough to take criticism of a country if you think

(02:40:45):
it's not going too well, if the leadership's poor, which
even most of the captains of industry think the leadership
is poor at the moment. I mean, no one really
seems particularly enamored by it. Well, I haven't met anyone.
No one's happy, and that's not a good place to be.
It's terrible for people the country spirit. Hey, I'll return
tomorrow night from eight pm and romance next as I've

(02:41:10):
promised you. And I think that's about all I've got
to say. I remember to vote in the local body elections.
That's important.

Speaker 1 (02:41:17):
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