I say nice things to people (1 October 2025)

Marcus talks baby names, GST, licence accreditation, and why you can't trust people with certain haircuts.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Be Marcus on the spot for the cricket Tonight. The
women starts at half past ten. The men's twenty twenty
as I'm currently and he's in a ninety six for three,
make that ninety six for four, make that ninety six
for make it ninety seven for three. So Robinson's facing

(00:33):
on fifty five, Mitchell's on thirty four. It seems to
be windy, it seems to be dry, and it seems
to be fairly well attended, No sparsely attended. Actually, why

(00:53):
I mean? Cricket October does seem to be surprising, doesn't it.
It's only just spring in your step. How much KFC
to play to have their name on the wickets? No
one thing looking at a wicked watched because they all
I feel like some KFC. You wonder sometimes how advertising
on wickets works, doesn't she? Don't you? Well, that's good.

(01:17):
That's going all the way to the all the way
into the field his hands, So there you go. Mitchell's
out caught deep about a meter from the boundary. Looked
like a sex till it wasn't. I think the wind
got it actually a very easy catch, right down the
guy's throat, right into his bread basket. So yeah, you

(01:38):
in you. It wasn't good at all. There we go. Hey,
how are you welcome to the Wednesday free for all?
Darryl Mitchell thirty four caught David Bold short fall a
work at ninety eight for four. Hey, by the way,
I've got topics tonight. What's the situation with the snow?

(02:04):
Did christ get snow? I saw on some websites that
said christ Church had snow and they didn't see anymore
because I said it was going to come your way?
Did you get it? Be exciting if you did, because
there hasn't been much snow this year, So let me
know if you didn't. Imagine they've probably got it in
some places but on the flats. Let me know if
that's the case. I'd be curious to know what you've
got to say about that. Eight hundred and eighty ten

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eighty and nine to nine tow to text you want
to come through with that, you've got any information about
snow and christ Church? The weather is still pilly average
down south. I think probably there's still more to come
up the country. Just so you know, so I've got
something to say, it'd be good to hear from you.
That's the first thing I want to cover off. As
you heard in the news, the sinkhole or turmoil is

(02:46):
still there among a day road, I think, so watch
out for that or don't watch out because you can't
go near it, go elsewhere. That'd be the answer for
that one. And anyway, it's a bit of a bit
of a Wednesday free for all tonight. So I did
anything else you want to talk, but I'd like to
hear from you. But first of all, or foremost did
it snow and christ chitch? Don't want to cover that
off because I can't get there were any correct reports

(03:08):
about that. Text me I'll call me. I don't ready
mind at the stage of the night, which is the
beginning of the night. I will keep you dub by
the way, if you want to watch the cricket, it's
on Free to Wear TV, so go and watch it
if you want, have the radio and do what you want.
Because I just say that because not often we get
free sport on TV and Z so yeah, you want
to go and watch that. But a lot of advertising

(03:31):
for KFC also now download the app, so ninety nine
for four. It was a pretty unimpressive start, by the way,
with Cei, fit Conway and Chapman all out for five
between between them. So you're not good at all. So yes,
eight hundred and eighty tatty and nine two nine to
text you want to be part of the show. There's

(03:52):
other stuff I want to tell you about tonight, but
firstly about the snow and Christitch did it snow? I
saw some reports and haven't heard one way or the other.
I'd like to tick that one off if I can. Yes, gosh,
there's a woman charging pair it's fifty thousand dollars to
pick a name for their child. Wow, a professional baby

(04:15):
namer and self professed name nerd Wow concierge baby naming services.
It can cost up to fifty two thousand dollars. Well
that's a brilliant What a rut that is? I just
go to Nameberry fifty thousand dollars. I don't name people's babies.

(04:42):
I help them craft legacies that will stand the test
of time. Wow. Goodness. Anyway, has he ever gone to
a professional baby naming service? Because I certainly haven't do
come through Marcus till twelve. But mainly first up about

(05:03):
the snow and christ Juts. There are other topics and
i'll alert your those of the evening goes on something else.
I can tell you by the way. I've got two
major topics tonight. The first topic that I want to
embark on is because I have no recollection of it whatsoever.

(05:26):
But you might be able to help me out with this.
So this is the day in history today, And of
course today is the first of January, February, March up
or May, jun in July, August, September, October, and this
day in nineteen eighty six, I won't make your guess
what happened. And this day in nineteen eighty six, New

(05:47):
Zealand introduced GEST semi humorously called Grab, Snatch and Take.
And I have zero recollection of it, which surprises me.
I thought my memory was pretty good. However, I have

(06:09):
since realized I wasn't in the country. So if you
are someone that has any remember memories of GEST and
what that was like, you might have been in the
banking sector, you might have been a retailer. This is
the history we need to actually do something to remember
because I've got no recollection zero, which freaks me out.
But yeah, as I say, it was out of the country,

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so I must have come back to you saying everything
was a bit priser prisier. So yes, if you want
to talk about that, I'd like to hear from you.
If there's something else you want to mention, get in touch.
Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine two nine
two texts. But mainly it's about GST and when that
first started and what memories you have of that, and

(06:51):
is it snowing in christ Judge or did it snow
in christ Church? The other two topics so far, and
watch the cricket otherwise you're excused. But yes, Roger Douglas
came up with it. I think it was ten percent
when it first started, then I went't think it went

(07:12):
to twelve and a half percent. Then I think it
went to fifteen percent. Now that sounds like a very
strange thing to not know, doesn't it. But I guess
that's the that's the deviousness of the of the text,
as you kind of don't know how much you're paying
and now they're saying the pension's going to go to
seventy two. Perhaps don't want to freak you out. And

(07:36):
that the GST could go to forty percent to pay
for everything, to pay for everyone's elderly care. But as
we all know, we'll all be cared by robots. Can
I change?

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Imagine how that's going to be? Christmas is Marcus? Welcome?

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Marcus?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, Chris just.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
Heard you're talking about the bizarre situation of the person
making up baby names. Yes, yes, And I'm standing there
in disbelief like a lot of people probably would be.
And I heard you say it's a row.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
Do you know what?

Speaker 5 (08:18):
I think? I think, good on her. Someone's stupid enough
to pay to name their baby, then I think, go
for it.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
You could imagine a billionaire couple who are having fights
about the baby name and they say, get we'll get
the baby name, and shall we? And then they can
actually there, they can farm it out. They don't have
the responsibility, and they say, oh, that's a good name.
You come up with it. It's probably an argument, savor,
I would think.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
I just think if they're stupid enough to pay that
sort of money to come up with a name, then
you know, not that I think it's a good idea
to have someone paid all that money. But I thought, well,
they're silly enough to pay.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
It all then, And ironically her name is Taylor, which
is more a sour name, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah, Well, lots of Christian names are se names. I
don't know, but it seems to be more prominent over
the years, especially in male names. Yes, quite masculine, good
strong SEU names and now first names. And it's quite
nice really in a way.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Like all girls names that all girls names these days
seem to be full of a's. It's it's all Aria, Amaya,
a Amelia, all those sorts, a lot of a's in them.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
You're quite right.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I don't know what that's about.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
Yeah, but I just giggled at that and thought, well,
if they're stupid enough to pay the money, good on
the people for coming up with that business model.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
What's funny about the article It mentions none of the
names she's come up with?

Speaker 7 (09:52):
Ah?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Really, I guess people would steal them there. They're still
steal fifty thousand dollars names in, wouldn't they?

Speaker 8 (09:59):
Anyway?

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Whereabout is this America?

Speaker 6 (10:02):
I wouldn't be surprised.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
This is America. It's America. But I'm sure the someone
sitting up there account here Chris I've got to run
on it. Nice to talk to you. Thank you, GST.
We are talking about the birth of GST. Could we
make that interesting as a topic. I reckon we could grab,
snatch and take. They called it no snow in christ
digit was cold though. No snow in the red cluff hells,

(10:25):
but super cold. GST replaced other sales Texas, so many
items went down and fry. Some electronic items went from
seventy ten seventy percent to ten percent. Marcus Taylor is
not a surnam. It's an occupation for a good point.
It's snowed in glen Et and Timodou and someone's just

(10:51):
set through an eight letter text that says pissport. What
does that mean? Marcus driving home and totong at sixteen
degrees and very wouldn't you know? Wonder they're only a
few people at the cricket ID go mind you. I've
been to the Stags when the front came through. So

(11:12):
that's loyalty. But there's probably not loyal much loyalty to
the twenty twenty cricket. They've played too many films of cricket. Oh,
here's this staff guy bowling with a glasses Zampa. You've
seeing this guy's zamper. He look I'm almost look at
how I try and think when he looks it does
look like a cricket. He looks more like a a YouTuber,

(11:33):
and not in a good way. Id you I shouldn't
judge people in their looks. I suppose that's terrible. Get
in touch. You want to be a part of an
eighteen past eight here till twelve professional baby names, but
mainly g is t that's the first topic for that.
Do you remember you might have been a bank key,
You might have been a shopkeeper. You might have been
a who else would be a bank teller? You might

(11:54):
have been on the supermarket check out. Just curious how
much recollection you've got thirty nine almost forty years ago?
One year shy of forty year ago. Let's be airing you.
Oh actually, Chromisin too bad at the Credins. There's a
few there, mainly kids. Hey how kids wave to cameras?
There wears annoys business. I mean, yeah, let's not get

(12:15):
too annoyed. But that's something I need to say. But yes,
watched it. If you want lines there free for you
going to come through. Talking about the birth of gst
in ninet eighty six and also too about the snow
and christ Jurdge Marcus y bp A n Z ATM
has been replaced with machines that charge two fifty of
transaction e. G. Levin. The banks seem to be mainly

(12:36):
getting rid of ATMs because they're not used much, because
people aren't using cash match. Don't shoot the messenger. I'm
just saying there's not much demand for ATMs anymore, so
the banks are just trying to recoup some of their costs. Marcus.
I remember one year there was snow and Dargaville North

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and it was a while ago now, but there was snow.
Brilliant Marcus. I remember so Maggie Thatcher promising not to
double vat from eight percent years ago, we went to
fifteen point five. Marcus, hand out my number, oh name
babies for fifty dollars and travel. It'd be great to

(13:18):
be a name a baby namer and then you someone
speed your fifty dollars you cut with a name like John,
wouldn't it? Yeah? Say about that? What you well? Anyway,
do come through if you want to talk. Eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty nine nine decks all gone bad
for Nicole Kidman, hasn't it. We'll all gone bad for
the marriage with him seeing a younger woman cheap as creepers.

(13:42):
You know what I'd say, I'd say, never trust.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
A man.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Who's much older than his haircut. That's what I reckons
dodgy about him. He's got a young person's haircut and
old person. If anyone's got a if anyone's not great
agent Grace who we've got a young person's haircut an
old person's head. There's only one thing they're up to.
There's my thoughts on that one. Enough to see it.
Do come through if you want to talk he til

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twelve twenty four past eight, or watch the cricket if
you want to keep those texts coming through GST and bay.
There's other topics. It's every day today. It's International Coffee Day,
It's International Music Day. It's World Vegetarian Day, It's Homemade
Cookies Day. It's also Kale Day, not JJ kale, but kale.

(14:36):
I'm talking about the bressaica. You even try to reduce kale.
There's no juice in it, nothing in it just goes
to powder. Promise you that strange old stuff also to
the thriller in Manila was in This Day in nineteen
seventy five. That was Muhammed Alida defeating Joe Frazier. But

(15:01):
there's other topics. If I want to cover off baby
naming and the snow and christ jury and GST because
some I think you'll have good memories of GST, you've
just got a I don't know how humorous they'll be,
Actually don't if everyone's got a humorous GST story. VAT
value added texts GST goods and services texts. In France

(15:29):
it was called TVA be taxa who knows what that is?
Twenty six past eight, you's got to come through right
through or twelve o'clock tonight. Cricket update one two, six
for four, fourteen point three overs. Jacob's g he's tall,
He's on eleven. That's what's happening. Oh, by the way,

(15:56):
speaking of cash too, and that's why there's no ATMs.
I think that's what we've discussed on the show. In
the Kingdom that's United the UK right cash usage. Cash
usage has shrunk to below ten percent. All payments in

(16:20):
Britain make up now nine percent.

Speaker 9 (16:27):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
So it's the first time on record that physical money
made up less than ten percent of transactions a decade ago.
It was half so used. We've got cash and they
say you go to China, Well you don't see a note.
I gotta say that payWave go. I'll tell you what
I found with money. I found once they brought that

(16:48):
plastic money in. If you're a man and not with
a bag and just had money in your pockets like
your jeans or something, that plastic money, it's terrible stuff.
It would always sort of find its way as you walk.
It would sort of as you walk, it would my
great North, great skywood in your pocket and then blow

(17:09):
away in the wind. Terrible stuff, terrible, terrible stuff. So
I think that's half the problem. So a rubbish money
that went to plastic it's yes, so don't it's so
pocket slippery. So that was that was my that's my
and I used to put into the poking machines and
which you didn't have that then that was that. That

(17:30):
solved that one, didn't it. I just arrived in Auckland
from christ Church, no snow and ten degrees when I left, Marcus,
thanks for the laugh about Keith Urbans here yet No
never trust a man with a young person's hair Never
trust a middle aged your elderly man with a young
person's haircut. They're covering up something. It's never good. Marcus

(17:54):
at the Mark, I brought a new motorcycle nine to
eighty six. I choose to buy it just before GST
was introduced. There was some debate if prices would increase
or decrease. That model motorcycle was never cheaper than when
I bought a good call Marcus, what the heck is
a young person's haircut? Keith Urbans, I'd say what it

(18:14):
would be described as a bob, and not a bob
with a fringe, but like a James Brown bob. A
sort of a thin rock star like in the Strokes.
Could carry it off, but it looks terrible. Marcus has
a lot of Bitcoin APM machines out now? How many?

(18:35):
How many Bitcoin ATM machines? Not that many? You say
a lot? How many? I'll google that for myself, so
I'm entertaining myself tonight. How many ATM bitcoin machines are
there in New Zealand? Do you reckon to be ten?

Speaker 8 (18:56):
Gee?

Speaker 2 (18:56):
That's a lot? Two hundred and twenty one. I had
no idea I apologized for soundingcknowledgeable on that when I
was far from it. I've never seen one, never seen one.
They wouldn't be turned on twenty one, would they? There
you go? Gosh, don't you love a reverse sweep? Robinson

(19:19):
on seventy three? Heaven a great knock, a great canock?
Seventy three or forty nine? He's in one three four
for four of sixteen overs or fifteen point five, don't
new point five, Antonio, This is Marcus.

Speaker 10 (19:31):
Welcome, Oh Marcus, Oh good, thanks, good good? Topics with
Keith Keith urban? Doesn't he have to look young with he?
He's a musician, so.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
He's probably well, it's country though I don't know who
is who listens to country now? It's it's it's old
adult rural focus. I don't know, mind you they are before?

Speaker 10 (19:50):
What about Johnny Cash?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
I love Johnny Cash?

Speaker 10 (19:53):
He was good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I saw him in the and the highwayman.

Speaker 10 (19:59):
Oh wish i'd seen them.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Oh tremendous. And then and you left Mount Smart with
the sun going down and Willie Nelson singing on the
road again in one of the great memories. Anyway, I
probably had a Keith even here cut myself.

Speaker 10 (20:12):
In Actually, well, yeah, you've got a lot of hair,
probably as good.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, as much as I once had to be. I've
got breath thick here.

Speaker 10 (20:21):
Oh no, not me, haven't you? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Unfortunately quite often i'll go get my hair cut. I
don't get my hair cut anymre. I do it myself.
But that's that we've got breath. I got sick of
them saying we've got breath thick here. I thought, actually
I didn't know if it.

Speaker 10 (20:33):
Was a barber. It only cost me twenty dollars really,
and I yeah, yeah, it was good. Mind you you know,
he just did a bit of a scissor cat as well.
So on the on the top, are you suggesting.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
You haven't got have you don't got much hair?

Speaker 10 (20:51):
Ah? No? Oh, well got, well there is a bit there,
but on the top not not not a lot. I
think that when I put my hand up there, it
feels like I have. But when I see in a
mirror or something, there's a big actual there, you know,
a big board patch.

Speaker 11 (21:08):
Can you comb it across bigger parttern?

Speaker 10 (21:11):
Oh no, well, when it grits a bit longer, it
kind of looks all right. But no, I don't have
enough to do the camover.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
You could grow it longer than combing over. Will do it?

Speaker 9 (21:23):
Do it?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Do the old trumpost swelling around?

Speaker 10 (21:27):
Oh yeah, diet, Yeah that's cool. Oh just thanks, that's great.
And just for the GST. I did sort of remember
the governments think they were saying they needed to bring
it in for the tax, and then everyone was going, oh,
it's another tax on tax. We're playing twice. And then

(21:50):
then we thought our England's doing it VAT and are
fair enough. But then you learn later on that VAT
didn't include certain food items.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
But I don't know that that's interesting.

Speaker 10 (22:05):
Vegetables and stuff and fruit and viges and and I'm
not as they were talking about like cutting it back here,
but I don't know if they ever did. And I
just remember people going, oh, weren't looking with weren't looking
forward to it. But I was probably like you. I
probably wasn't. I might not have been here when exactly
when they brought it in.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
No, I don't think. I don't even know if there
was TV eds explaining it were there when they say gust,
there's nobody a jingle, isn't there, Like when they went
to dicimal currency. Gust Yeah, I don't know what the
jingle would have been.

Speaker 10 (22:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, you're right, Yeah, I think yeah, memory's gone.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
You couldn't complain about twenty bucks forre a. Heck at
that it seems fair. Ten minutes in the chair.

Speaker 10 (22:46):
Uh yeah, at least ten minutes because I had a
beard as we have a trim on my beard as well.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, it's gone on the top of it. It's gone
on the top and coming out the chin. It's like
it's dropped the here a, that's the one that happens.
Nice to talk, Antonio, you've done for a well, very
polite caller would have been not now. And the cricket
we're going for it. We've made a bit of a
mockery of the Aussies. They're dropping the ball or they're
failing to catch it. They've failed to catch too. Lush

(23:18):
stool t ten lit still ten years lush, still ten
years younger than you. But a shorty like you with
talent I five to eleven. What are some pop of
a perception you're short? Isn't that weird?

Speaker 12 (23:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
If I'm the tallest on the station, I'll be thereabouts,
wouldn't I. Yeah, I think I probably would be. I
don't know who would be the tallest on staff. Yeah,
I probably would be. I think, just putting that out there,
there was a bitcoin machine in the Greenhead theory. Not
sure if it's still there. Our kid, you not have

(23:55):
no idea what you meant to do.

Speaker 9 (23:56):
With it.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Anyway. TVA tex sula velure a jute value added ten
nineteen fifty four. So France invented it. Mind you and France,
you're a turret fifty five dunchess. I get there. They
need revenue from somewhere. Swings it around it venty someone
saying I was short. Yeah, I love to check that

(24:22):
billboard of a z'b people actually, because I reckon maybe
they've they've shrunk me and that that's probably what it is.
They have a how dare they it's not real height?
Is it? No? I'll tame. It's Jack. Tame's tall, I think,

(24:43):
but he's weaked. I mean not not sure. I shouldn't say,
but he's weekend. But he's weekend. I don't think he is.
You don't know how anyway to come through Marcus till twelve. Yeah,

(25:05):
that's it's that billboard, Dan. Do we still have that
damn billboard, Dickens is tall. You're not around so much anymore.
Twenty three to nine, twenty one away from nine, we're
talking about baby names. What'd you pay fifty thousand for
baby name? We're also talking about the first days of GST,
which everyone has deliberately forgotten about. Diana. This is Marcus welcome.

Speaker 13 (25:30):
Oh yeah, I'm Marcus. So people aren't rude to you.
I think the best idea for you is to get
a pair of those men's juice, and they have a
slight here on, here on, nobody ever knows.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Hang on, don't you know how tall? I am?

Speaker 13 (25:50):
Five for eleven?

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah? Yeah, well above everything.

Speaker 13 (25:53):
You're tool than man.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
I'm drinking exactly, and you're what drinking shouldn't be drinking.

Speaker 13 (25:58):
Shrink is hate drinking shrinking?

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Oh okay, I say yes, yes, yes, that's what.

Speaker 13 (26:06):
You can do with people. Snaps think you a bit?

Speaker 2 (26:10):
No, I think people. I think people. I think I've
got a maybe got a short sounding voice, like accessible.

Speaker 13 (26:16):
I never give them thought.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
No, I should guess people how tall? Yeah, but some
people think because some people are sort of full of
cocksureness and bravado. This is what we need to do. This
is the government, and people think they're taller because they
sort of talk themselves up because you know, I don't
want to.

Speaker 13 (26:34):
Get into there are people like that. We don't want
to listen to that program.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah anyway, so yeah, anyway, No, I just thought it
might be a bit of a handy.

Speaker 13 (26:45):
It is a handy thing to do. I think my
husband used to wear heels boots that had the heel
sight higher heels on them and in shoes, but by
the time he's married to me had to get the
shoes that were available and bettered them properly.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
How how how tall are you?

Speaker 13 (27:10):
Well? I used to be about five foot three and
a half five ft four, but I'm shrink of it,
so leaves with myself. I don't want to know now the.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Most do you know that guy Rohndascentius who used to
try to run for president who rhn descentis everhood of him?
No eyes like that. He's like the the Florida and
what's the word they have for those, he's like the
governor of Florida. And they did some deep dives on
photos of him. He had cowboy boots right, yes, and

(27:47):
you know the back of your cowboy boot that goes
from the top to the bottom. His ankles, his heels
were halfway out the back of his cowboy boot.

Speaker 13 (27:56):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, he was dropping about six extra inches on there
by just having his cowboy boot like that. But he
got called out and then Trump two on him anyway,
probably because Trump. There's one thing about Trumps, he's tall.
So yeah, I think he took a very dim view
of deceit. There was. There was years and years of
analysis online of that. It's always quite a good, deep darthed.

(28:20):
Nice to hear from you till Diane, thank you. Keep
it going if you want to talk. One six oh
for four is about six twelve fifteen balls left. It
drives me crazy how they have overs and they have
like one point three overs, which it should be one
and a half overs because it's not point three, it's

(28:42):
point five. With a bit like Robinson'll get a centuries
on ninety two or sixty one ball. He's had a
good knock with the one that I don't know. It's
just dumb. It's Nina sounds taller than new Marcus. You
exactly stop with the height shaming. She's Jill's texted from
the eighteen nineties, Marcus just to the news headline six

(29:03):
education school, how much students getting more education? Biology first
before six education go a long way to helping with
confusion with how those human species reproduce. There, we go,
good on you, Gil Giltel said comments about the hacker

(29:27):
and cloth nappies. It's pretty much the traumvirate. When GST
was raised from ten percent to twelve and a half
percent on first July nineteen eighty nine, the government framed
it publicly as a two point five percent increase. In effect,
it was a twenty five percent. Worn't have jumped from
the old rate. Thank you for that, Marcus. I thought

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it's illegal to obscure rear number of plates on bikes.
Go figure, what's that relation to? Are you listening to
the podcast or are you listening to some other station.
I think Robinson's gone on ninety two. I'm just watching this.
Jacob's out. That's okay. He wasn't screwing at the rate
that RoboN screwing it. I'll just he was. Was he

(30:09):
run out? Got right at oh chuck down right at
the boundary. Oh wow, tremendous They deserved getting that. They
did that one when the guy runs and knocks it up. Well,
it was tremendous fielding. Well done Australia. Jacob's twenty off
twenty one, so there's fourteen balls left. Your smile when
you come and people have paid good money to see.

(30:30):
That was the year with your grimma's face walking off.
I suppose you got to redo it. A performative kind
of girning. Fifteen to nine, he till twelve. Oh welcome,
it's thirteen to nine. How are you going out there listening?
And I hope your day. Oh we're talking about GST
when GST came in. Ohte this is interesting, good evening, Marcus. Yes,

(30:54):
I definitely remember the introduction of GST. You he married
in November nineteen eighty five. We were heading for hard times.
Little did we know it not happy times. Between nineteen
eighty six and nineteen eighty nine with rogernomics and GST,
our interest rates went up to twenty two percent and
then twenty nine percent plus the rises in GST over time,
we eventually lost everything, our home and our business. We

(31:16):
received no help, ending up in a tiny caravan on
an acquaintance's backyard. Not a happy time and something I'll
never forget ps will keep on using cash. What was
your business, Yvonne, I'll be curious to know what business
has went. But oh, I guess your business going bad
was not GST related. It probably was the interest rate related. Yes,

(31:39):
we do come through if you want to talk so far.
What we are talking about tonight is did it snow
in christ Church? And who remembers what happened this day
in ninete eighty six when GST was introduced, and a
lot of people remember the interaction of decimal currency. We
don't remember the attraction of GST with the same precision.

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And then people with young people's haircuts and people thinking
you're short when you're not like anyone cares. Oh wait
at eighty taty nine, two ninety, it's just four balls left.
Robinson's on ninety five. He'll get century fever. He'll go
for a whack and we'll go out. No, he's gone

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for single, the old mix and mingle. This is the
twenty twenty match. We'll take you the seriously between New
Zealand and Australia. New Zealand has gone into bat. I
don't know who won the toss, but three early wickets
the first three was zero one and five or zero
one and four, I think, and then there's been the
third and fourth established and now I think ron to

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as I said, one six, nine for five, Robinson on
ninety six, Bracewell on five. This is the third to
last ball. Haven't many boundaries. That's a three. I'd say
that one straight to the right to the run, another
one right it dive, die dive. You've gone, you've got

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you run out your teammate. They're going upstairs walk Brace
was walking. I think. Anyway, let's take a break. Pretty
exciting with a cricket. Tim Robinson has just got his
did a reverse sweep for four, got his first international
century on the second to last ball with a reverse
sweep than the last ball massive six. Just hit it

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for I was gonna say, can you still say hit
it to Africa? We didn't hit it to Mount long
Anui And one of the nicest shots I've ever seen.
As he's I don't know, don't know much about this
Robinson case. He's got a mustache, looks like a fairly
sort of a serious kind of a unit. But Tim, Yeah,
but that's Tim one hundred and six, so it'll be
a good second half, you might go and watch that one.

(33:50):
Someone has texted me through fun fact GST fun fact
there is no GST on gold purchases. Could someone tell
me why I've never thought about that, never purchased gold.
I suppose there's no GST on bitcoin either, is there?

(34:11):
But yeah, I got no idea about why there's no
GST on gold. There'd be a reason for it. So
you might have some information about that. That was a
very good knock from Tim Robinson. Now in Australian News,
police have confirmed there is a development in the manhunt

(34:32):
for Dezzy Freeman, who's accused of shooting dead two police
officers in the northeast for truontown of put A Punker
in late August. They have confirmed they are currently in
the farming area of Goomulabe, near the town of Banella,
a seventy five minute drive west of put A Punker.
So there we go. Can you sign me in Dan

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to my stuff website there and I'll see if I
get some more information for people. But that's I don't
know what that means, if there's a conclusion of quite
what that is. So I've got some more information about that,
let me know and yes, we are talking about GST,
the arrival of GST, also talking about would you subscribe

(35:16):
to a baby naming service? And the snow in christ
Church today did it even happen? It must be relocalized.
A lot of people said there was no snow one
eight one for six New Zealand. So Robinson got over
half tremendous knock nine point one and over. I don't

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know where that's I don't know if about twenty twenty
Dolf that's a good score of bad score all of case.
It all depends on the picture the opposition, doesn't it. Yeah, Jeff,
this is Marcus welcome.

Speaker 8 (35:56):
Yeah, good aiming Marcus. If there's an increase of GST,
why that shove the prices of and stuff and the supermarkets?

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Well is it? Well?

Speaker 8 (36:11):
Well so, so once again, I just don't think it's
a good idea at all.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
I think the challenge for the government is is they've
got an aging population. Before long there'll be only two
taxpayers for every picture and no, and they won't be
able to afford that. They won't be able to afford
the pension for people. So they need to income, They
need to increase the text.

Speaker 8 (36:36):
Take Yeah, because I paid tax. I paid tax on
my pension. I paid about one hundred and seventy eight
dollars a fortnight on my pension.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Year older than your sound? How old are you, Jeff?

Speaker 8 (36:52):
They are just a very young seventy three?

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Really you said, like in your forties.

Speaker 8 (36:59):
Oh well, I'll take that's a nice thing to say.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, that's that's what I do. I say nice things
to people.

Speaker 8 (37:06):
I could. I could quite easily go to work. I've
applied for about ten jobs. One guy told me, oh,
I think you're too old death. I said, oh, is
that right, mate? I said, I don't appreciate what you've
just said, because I said it was a truck of

(37:28):
driving trucks.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
You'd be great behind the truck. You sound like you'd
be good behind the truck.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Why couldn't you drive a school bus?

Speaker 8 (37:39):
I I was gonna I was going to uh go
for a job bus driving. But then he wouldn't offer me.
They they were not offering me many hours at all.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
You'd be a great bus driver.

Speaker 8 (37:56):
Yeah, I could drive a bus.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
A calling for you, you'd be great.

Speaker 8 (38:03):
Yeah. I can get into any class two and four truck.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Have you got tracks? Have you got tracks? What's that one?
Tracks and rollers? You got what's that one called? You
got that one?

Speaker 10 (38:17):
No?

Speaker 8 (38:17):
I don't act three?

Speaker 2 (38:19):
What's that one called? Everyone name drops out all the
time with licenses, tracks rollers and.

Speaker 8 (38:25):
Uh yeah, tracks rollers and something else?

Speaker 2 (38:29):
But what is it? Something else? Someone bit of text
me that's annoyed me all day? That one tracks rollers
and no No seven welcome seven past nine. All the
lines are free, be in touch of you want to
be part of it? A had twelve o'clock tonight. I
will keep your up date with the crooet. I'll tell
you what it t when they happen. It's about as
far as I'll go tonight, cold, windy, dry night at

(38:55):
the Bay Oval in Mount mong Anui. But it seems
to be a good crowd out there. I don't know
why we're playing tennis the cricket in early October, well
the first day of October really, so just a third
of the way through spring, it seems really for cricket. Yes,
with the three codes and IPL you've got to be
busy and do different things. Hey, so what we are
talking about so far now is baby naming and GST.

(39:17):
Who remembers when GST came in this day one October
in nineteen eighty six. I've got no recall, but I
wasn't in the country. Have you got any recall about that?
And some said a lot of a lot of big
texes came off, so some things became cheaper, maybe even caravans.
I think Carrott will know. I don't know what happened

(39:39):
actually with all this stuff. Maybe electronic goods from overseas.
So remember the first day of GST. I'd like to
talk to you about that, the snow and christ Church
and also height, but what you want to say about
height and old people with young people's haircuts, some of
the things we have talking about tonight. If you've got
something to add to that. All the lines are free.

(40:00):
Be nice to hear from you. GST was ten percent
and then twelve and a half percent, and then fifteen
percent next to between. That would be what you'd imagine.
So they are topics for discussion. There are other topics.
The one thing I actually but let me just check
the texts. There's something else you want to check into
the next good obviously you can see that we it
would be good to hear from you. Wheels, tracks, rollers, wheels, tracks, rollers,

(40:29):
I wouldn't mind wheels, tracks rollers. Actually, it's a good
thing to drop in a conversation. Oh this is interesting.
Why is it no GST on gold? If anyone can
tell me about that. Yeah, someone says GST God save
thee Wow, but why is it o GST on gold?

(40:52):
Got to mention that, that would be good. The other
thing I want to mention too, if if I get
no takers on these topics, that's fine. There might be
something different you want to mention it to. If you
up breaking news where you are, let me know. I'm
following those developments Australia with that guy that's on the
run after shooting the cops allegedly. I can't see anything
on the I can't see much about that apart from

(41:14):
the stuff website. I haven't got it verified yet that
they are looking. There was a farm of interest, but
apparently there's a lot of police playing. I don't know
how far away that is from where he left. Yeah,
specialist search team deployed near Banella. It's fifty eighty five

(41:35):
ks to the west, so there were five hundred cops
down to two hundred, so there were I say, perhaps
it might be part Yeah, Okay, Graham. This is Marcus Welcome.

Speaker 14 (41:49):
Yeah, I am here.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Get on, Hey, Graham, what's happening?

Speaker 14 (41:53):
No, man, I drover. But on my JQA my certificate
that I've got, I've got SPV and that there's a
special purpose vehicle.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Wow, what would that be?

Speaker 14 (42:09):
That's that's greater block, glove, tigger and more thows as
a special purpose vehicle off road you know or just
around the area.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Oh, you'd be in a high demand. You'd be in
high demand.

Speaker 14 (42:27):
Well, I can't get a job because I'm overqualified.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
That's that's always the way. You can do too many things.

Speaker 14 (42:32):
Or the tickets for everything, Like I'm apartment and manager
and got all the tickets to everything, and they I'm
over qualified, how old? And I'm striking even and I'm
staking to get a bunny job, you know. But the
s p V is on my j q A, which
is new Zerne Qualification Authority, And yeah, I can't get

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a job.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Don't take this the wrong way, Graham. Yeah, he had
many DCEs.

Speaker 14 (43:03):
Yeah they had a couple. Yeah, that doesn't matter. If
John farm working on a machinery, yeah, you know, on
the road, you see. Yeah, but I don't drink and
do your heavy machinery.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
No, just you just drink and do cars.

Speaker 14 (43:20):
Yeah, yeah, you know, and then it's always been the
old same thing. You're able to be and you're driving safely,
but they just know you.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Oh that's a shame. That's unlucky. Yeah, caught drink.

Speaker 14 (43:31):
Driving a yell at heavens we all listen to somehow,
have you let your listen? Yeah? I have now, Yeah,
good boys for the last five years.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Now, oh good on you. You know that should give
you a chance. What can you do with what?

Speaker 11 (43:46):
What?

Speaker 2 (43:46):
The wheels? Tracks? Rollers and totally you.

Speaker 14 (43:48):
Too, Well, we'll wreck wheels and tracks do the digger
and of bordos as far as I know. But the SPB,
a special purpose vehicle does your forklift in a contained area,
and it will do you great. I think people might
ring up and tell you different to cover your diget bulldozer.

Speaker 10 (44:11):
Roller?

Speaker 2 (44:12):
And what's the roller?

Speaker 10 (44:14):
Like?

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Add roller?

Speaker 14 (44:15):
No, the roll that rolls the road your time making stuff?

Speaker 2 (44:19):
What's that called?

Speaker 14 (44:21):
It's just called a roller.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
And Georgia Graham, thanks for that. Andrew Marcus welcome.

Speaker 7 (44:28):
Yeah, just an interesting caller.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
It sounds like he's drunk, well sort of.

Speaker 7 (44:40):
But nonetheless let's move on. I guess going back to
GST one one one of the really interesting things because
I was around when it came out. I was probably
probably sounds like I'm a little bit older than you are,
but I think you might have been abroad. Where were

(45:00):
you when it came out?

Speaker 2 (45:02):
I mean, the secret in another country, a secret witness program.

Speaker 7 (45:12):
Running running from some some situation.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Different identity.

Speaker 7 (45:19):
Yeah you don't, yeah, so yeah, it's cool. You're probably
in Alaska. Let's just say Alaska, no moles.

Speaker 9 (45:30):
Yeah, so, but it was.

Speaker 7 (45:32):
Well promoted, the information on the government put information through
very well on on TV ads, on TV GSDs coming out.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Who was in the ads?

Speaker 4 (45:51):
Oh, I mean they were just.

Speaker 7 (45:53):
Doing it like the Kiwi style where they were just
like there weren't people, but they were just like characters.
You know, it's a long time ago, but I do
if you look up ged you.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Oh really yeah shis.

Speaker 15 (46:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (46:17):
So but what what surprised me at the time was
that we were the first country to do it really well.
Yeah yeah, so it's yeah, don't start me on that.
Because I looked at it and went, oh v a
t uh came and when I was in the UK,

(46:42):
thankfully American ever took it on, but every every country
in Europe's got it now EVA, and.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
So we're ahead of Europe with v AT, oh way ahead.

Speaker 7 (46:54):
Yeah, we invented, we invented the whole thing. And I
was working for Lion Nathan at the time, which was
a bear company, and yeah, there were it was just
they're trying to get it over to Australia and then yeah,

(47:17):
Australia's now probably got their own GST. Well I'm guaranteed
that they have. But it's a it's a huge government earner.
I mean, it earns more. I reckon it probably ends
more than just right, okay, I mean I mean I'm
calling it out here, but it's all a part with

(47:40):
income taxt Okay. Yeah, so that's how that's how big
an owner it is. In the UK they have, they've
been smart about it. They've put uh which what they
called VAT up to like twenty percent now, yeah, but

(48:02):
it's only on certain products, you know. It's so like
you can get like VAT is not charged on fuel,
it's not charged on anything in the supermarket. But here
across the board we charge GST everything. So it's a
bit we're sort of falling behind the you know the

(48:24):
game line.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Appreciate that, Andrew, thanks so much for you call. That's
Andrew on GST bearing him on the inside. It says
that Great Britain produced VAT in nineteen seventy three. So
he's EDT Andrew Edmund Rocky, This is Marcus. Welcome, Hi Rocky. Hi,

(48:45):
it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 12 (48:48):
Oh hi Marcus, evening.

Speaker 16 (48:52):
My reception up here.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Punam, how's my reception? We're not talking much as long gaps.

Speaker 17 (49:01):
Well, I'm here.

Speaker 16 (49:02):
I was. I was having a bit of a think
about the fire service levees and you know, the upcoming
concerns around strike action for or on behalf of the
mdd PFU and having a little think today about the
levies that we're paying as domestic house users and vehicle users.

(49:26):
And you know, I'm a part of a building company
as well, and we often see the payments put through
by commercial properties and contract works into their fire service levees.
And so I had a little bit of a you know,
desk exercise and had a look and say, if about

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eighty percent of our house in New Zealands were insured,
they say about one point seven million of our houses
were insured and they were paying their domestic house fire
service levees. It means they're collecting brought me two hundred
and thirty two million dollars worth of fire service levies
just on domestic houses, not including the GSD of thirty

(50:07):
four mils. And then say that house also has a vehicle.
And if we base New Zealand off having four point
nine million dollar four point nine million vehicles that are insured,
that is then fire service lives collection on that is
about forty six and a half million a year, not

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including again seven million dollars worth of GSD. And that's
just domestic in one vehicle, third domestic house, you know.
And then you add and another vehicle, another vehicle, so
and that's just domestic youth. And you've got that's not
cling contents, boats, boat trailers, commercial properties, contract works. So

(50:51):
I'm wondering the question is is where is all of
that going? If we're still struggling to turn out FENS
vehicles or FENS appliances, our aerials aren't working. They say, oh,
look we're sent I heard the lady I had ye
been today, Rockie.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
What's your connection with the fire Service.

Speaker 16 (51:10):
Please, I'm a volunteer firefighter.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
You're not a professional. You're honestly not a professional firefighter.

Speaker 16 (51:19):
I'm not a professional firefighter.

Speaker 11 (51:21):
Know.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Is your partner a professional firefighter?

Speaker 10 (51:24):
No?

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Okay, no, no? And would the volunteers go on strike
as well?

Speaker 13 (51:34):
Well?

Speaker 16 (51:35):
When we talk about strike, there's we have life serving services, right,
they exist, So strike as a I guess a mechanism
in which you say, hey, this isn't good enough, and
this isn't serving our community, and this isn't working, and
we are one hundred percent support what our professional firefighters

(51:56):
are paid firefighters are doing. It's not appropriate stuke to
a fire or a critical incident and your gear.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Not But this is all this is all about. There's
always all these news stories. But when they got to negotiation,
don't they That's the way it works, isn't it.

Speaker 16 (52:12):
Absolutely? But there should be there should be more communications.
Well we or we only hear a real snippet of
what's actually going on. And what I'm saying is if
we're collecting millions and millions and millions of dollars worth
of five service levees, and yet we're hearing, oh, we've
spent twelve million dollars on five new aerials. Which are

(52:33):
decades late, twelve million dollars. Think you've you've just in
one year just vehicles levys alone, you've pulled in forty
six NL.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Okay, thanks for your call. Rocky twenty two past nine
cricket score forty five for zero Australia card to going
pretty quickly scoring at can't quite see the rates per
over or forty five or four overs twelve and over
eleven and over looked to call it that thereabouts. Keep
your texts coming through. About GST. I think andrewing you
much about that, just I think because sort of Frants

(53:05):
had it, then England had it, so I'm not quitte.
I'm very keen about trial about wheels, tracks and rollers,
what you got to do to get those. Marcus Andrews
suffers from the Great Key epidemic known as cognitive dissonance.
A classic self appointed know it all and emphatic with it.

(53:27):
Yeah that's right, isn't it. That's interesting about people. Yeah,
I can't go into that. But people that overrate their
ability don't.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
No, it's a different kind of analogy. Marcus paid text
since I was fifteen, nar retired paid text on the
money I saved and text again on it. How about
texting the churches. Well, it's going to be much money
from the churches. UK introduced VAT in nineteen seventy three

(54:06):
because I remember Roger Duga sported and said it would
never go have ten percent nick miute, twelve and a
half percent nickmut fifteen percent polishens from the real world,
along with bureaucratic people who think they know better, will
be the run ruin of us Red and circus as
nothing changes, God help us all spv R, W t
R same thing. Bulldozers, loaders, rollers. Forklifts are a separate license.

(54:33):
There are two types of forklift classifications, factory et cetera.
Off road. The IF endorsement for forkliffs just means you
can legally operate a forklooks on the road. It doesn't
mean next to you know how to operate it. That's
a separate course, Marcus. The heavy roller is something that
looks familiar to Fred Flint's done cars. Yes, I like

(54:55):
that about that, but here we go. I always called
it a dindy roller because it's children. We had those toys. No, no,
but it must have a different name the roller. And
I've always been teaching for what that word was and
HI meant this is Marcus welcome, good nay Marcus.

Speaker 18 (55:13):
Hey.

Speaker 19 (55:14):
Just three things. First, thanks to Gordon from two Nights
Ago answered my question very well with the blue water
out of my team. It was awesome.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Was good, wasn't he?

Speaker 11 (55:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (55:26):
He was a wealth of dollarge and I learned heats
from him, so I'm glad I asked. And secondly, I've
just been tracking up from Wellington and if you're heading
north between otech Key and Levin, they know how he
prepared to stop when you go over the the Ohl
River because you come up to cars stop the road

(55:48):
Where's very quickly?

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Okay?

Speaker 19 (55:50):
And I I saw one truck behind me here to Slammers.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Incas sounds like they haven't got enough cones. All the
road manager people haven't done it right.

Speaker 19 (55:58):
No, they're all up the front.

Speaker 18 (56:00):
But there you go.

Speaker 19 (56:01):
Hopefully someone will do something and you have no pressures.
But otherwise I've got wheels, tips and rollers and you can.

Speaker 20 (56:08):
Do it all on one day. It used to be.

Speaker 19 (56:10):
It's like when I did it was five hundred dollars
course and you just you did about two minutes on
each machine and they're not little do in the certificate.
It might be different now, but.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
They're pretty easy to learn to drive met.

Speaker 19 (56:27):
Yeah pretty much. Yeah, yeah, anyone can have a go,
but getting good on them is another story. Yeah, but
I never actually use them, and then I just end
up doing deliveries. And now when you apply for bigger jobs,
only one experience, so yeah, go figure.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
And they'd be pretty hard things to wreck too, wouldn't they.

Speaker 19 (56:51):
I don't know. I've never had a correct wrecking one,
but well.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
They look like they're pretty well build equipment.

Speaker 19 (56:58):
Yeah, and with the folk left on there. I'm actually
doing my off sertificate at the moment online net every
three years, you've got to.

Speaker 12 (57:08):
Do it again.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
You're a you're a long haul track of met Do
you need for clift? Is that useful for you?

Speaker 8 (57:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (57:15):
Because some depots gonna unload yourself.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 19 (57:20):
Yeah, it's definitely handy to have. But a little mine
will last another three years. But the if endorsement stays
on forever?

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Oh god, okay, I found that interesting, Matt. And good
luck with your your water. Did you did you get
the liking off your roof?

Speaker 19 (57:37):
God, it'll be coming up soon. Or get some of that?
Is it we forget or spray walk away one of those.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
I don't, I don't, I don't know. Or up there
with a steel wall and soap and water, I don't know. Yeah, yeah,
just clean your roof. You'll find out. Matt wheels tracks
rollers interesting. Anyone got an interesting story about getting those
licenses and how it was for you to get them.
I still don't really understand what wheels, tracks and rollers means.

(58:06):
I think it just understands. It just means a bulldozer
does it. It's all of it, and a roller for
the roads. I mean the thing about the roller. I've
seen them in the roll. I never go that fast.
It's not like you're going to know the right. You
don't need the road rules, do you? What would you
they need to know about driving a roller. I'm not
saying it's easy work. I respect those people, but still

(58:30):
see the bluff roads looking bad at the moment. Jets pot,
Holy will those trucks on it. Good dunk, good dunk,
good dunk, filling the way into town. A drum roller, Marcus,
You've got drum rolls with smooth drums for stone and bitch,
and then you got pad foot or sheep foot rollers
for compact and clay, and in Grandad's day had steamrollers. Marcus.

(58:55):
I worked as a cashier with GST. When GESST came
in and the day before it started we had a
queue waiting to pay accounts for forty five minutes before
after our normal closing times. They did cent they didn't
have to pay texts. There was no one Mount Hubert
this morning. While I was walking on the porthills in
christ Church. I think Nicole Kidman needs to change your

(59:17):
haircut it. She always looks like a Barbie doll. I
always have kesha I wallet here and overseas. Brilliant wheels,
tracks and rollers. Finally, the topic that I want love.
This is a topic. Hello Dave Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 21 (59:33):
You're a sick pucky, a puppy Marcus.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Sick pucky. Fancy thinking about that and get it wrong? Yeah,
I am You're right.

Speaker 21 (59:38):
D Wheels, wheels and pneumatic and rollers of steel wheels. Yes,
and tracks are self playing tracks. The where the tricky
bit comes in is if you're doing roadworks on the road,
say you're digging a hole or tar sealing the road,
it might be still counted as a road unless it's

(59:59):
closed or zoned off, So you need a driver's license
to have that vehicle on the road driving around in circles.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
So what's wheels.

Speaker 21 (01:00:10):
New pneumatic So a knuckle boom person lift that can
go on all terrain.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
It can go hang on, no idea what you're talking about.
A knuckle boom.

Speaker 21 (01:00:19):
A knuckle boom is not a straight shaft. It's a
kinky shaft. A knucklebom person e w P person lift,
elevated work platform so a person gets in it to
go and change a billboard skin. But if you're not
on if you're not on a concrete yard of a workplace,

(01:00:43):
and you're out on the farm, paddock or the road,
you need an all terrain vehicle because it could tip over,
you know, in two seconds flat. So that'll have pneumatic
ties and we would call that wheels.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Ah, there be a bit of learning on that because
you could tip over a.

Speaker 21 (01:01:00):
You don't want to tip. In fact, you've got to
have a harness in one of them, because if you
go in a one millimeter pop hoole pothole, you ricochet
one hundred meters in the air.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
A lot of the magnification about doubt you're.

Speaker 21 (01:01:16):
By your harness outside the cage, ten meters up in
there wondering what the heck that was run over? A
bit of four or two in a construction site and ricochet,
you know, a good couple of meters up in the air.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Wow, are you the instructor?

Speaker 8 (01:01:31):
No.

Speaker 21 (01:01:32):
When I was a law student in Wellington, I worked
at an equipment rental store and I got class five
truck wheels, tracks, roll as forklift for something to do.
And then ever since then, if I've wanted something to do,
I pick up a job, either because I want some
money or something to do. I'm flicking up to fung
at a and Kerry Kerrey tonight from Auckland and a

(01:01:52):
brand new Scarnia, drinking coffee with air suspension, listening.

Speaker 11 (01:01:56):
To z B.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Well this is a good topic for you.

Speaker 21 (01:02:00):
Yeah, it's a bit of a laugh. I've held off
the last few nights because I had nothing interesting to say,
but you got me turned on. Now we all tracks
and rollers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
The tracks is a bulldozer, right.

Speaker 21 (01:02:11):
They might be on a bulldozer, but they might be
on a crane. So those pile drillers that put in bridges,
they've got self laying steel tracks, but they don't do
any digging. They drill holes. Yeah, okay, so it's the
method of method of moving. They get their top speeds
five kilometers an hour. So you'd be kind of wondering

(01:02:32):
why you need a driver's license to show that you
can move for self laying tracks on a road, but
you need a license to drive a vehicle on a road.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
And the roller. What's the trick with the roller, Dave?

Speaker 21 (01:02:45):
Don't tip it over when you go near the edge.

Speaker 20 (01:02:47):
So you're.

Speaker 21 (01:02:50):
Yeah, well, and you don't have much choice because when
they tell you to tar seal the edge of the
road and there's a drop off on our rural country roads,
you've got to know when you can and when you can't.
So your two two callers ago spoke about getting wrong.
Getting it wrong is when you're going oops, and you're
either underneath the role of slightly dead or you jumped

(01:03:13):
off it and you're explaining why are one hundred thousand
piece of kits in the ditch?

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Okay?

Speaker 21 (01:03:19):
Not ideal? And employment well and DG's dangerous goods.

Speaker 12 (01:03:25):
To have that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
All on the side of your door, isn't it. We've
done that on a clipboard. You've got to have that
in a special envelope or something.

Speaker 21 (01:03:32):
Right, Yeah, you're absolutely onto it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Are you still a lawyer as well? Dave?

Speaker 21 (01:03:39):
I retired from law thirty June last year, so I'm
a semi retired lawyer.

Speaker 12 (01:03:44):
Truck driver. G.

Speaker 21 (01:03:45):
I enjoyed litigation. I had a chance to get back
into the environment Caught two weeks ago, and G I
had a good time flashback to the days I used
to be in the police and then the police you
used to grab a guy and say what the heck
you're doing, And as a civil litigator you would do
a very polite version of the same thing in court

(01:04:06):
two weeks ago, when it was my turn again to you,
I had some fun.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Do you win?

Speaker 21 (01:04:11):
I reserved the sersion. I'm going to win. I'm going
to win hands down. But you know, you've got to
go through the process and you've got to be very
thorough and careful and not too cocky.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Exactly. Love you to talk to you, Dave, brilliant Gee
three two to ten steam rollers don't roll steam. No,
that's a very good point. I knew Dave would be
in demand. Marcus justin here myself a truck driver Aukland

(01:04:42):
win and how can I get hold of Dave. I
think here's some knowledge that I would like to use. Wow,
someone obviously crashed their role and needs a lawyer. Jeremy,
it's Marcus. Welcome. Hey, good Jeremy.

Speaker 11 (01:04:54):
Thank you your wheels, tracks and rollers well for you
to your playing tracks well. For class one license, you
can only operate machinery under eighteen ton. You need a
class two to guys and anything over eighteen ton, which
a bulldozers mainly a bigger than that, sure eighteen ton.

(01:05:14):
So you need a class two license.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Is it a different day? Is it a different day training?

Speaker 19 (01:05:19):
Is it?

Speaker 11 (01:05:21):
Well, no, you need to get a class two truck license.
It's the same training, but the training is all about
the safety. It's not about operating them. You'll drive one
backwards and forwards, but it's very hard to get good
on diggers, especially because you'll break a lot of things
and it costs a lot of money. But your rollers,

(01:05:42):
you have a twin drum roll, a single drum roller
smooth roller with wheels, you have double drum roller smooth,
and then you have triple drum roller which has two
drums at the back. And then you've got your sheet's
feet roller and the license only covers them up to

(01:06:02):
eighteen ton as well, which a lot of them are
bigger than that. With a Class one license, so a
car license you only can operate pretty much small things,
not big because most diggers twelve tups around town you
get out on note modes and that, and they're over that.
They're mainly twenty you know, But.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
How do you get, Jeremy, how do you get good
on a digger?

Speaker 11 (01:06:31):
Well, you're really going to be a laborer on a
job site and ask to get on it here and there,
and people won't let you on them in the hell
of the hurry because the tickets are very easy. Well
they're not easy to get, but it's all about safety.
They'll just talk to you all about safety. The wheels
is like with a Class one license, you can't go

(01:06:53):
over thirty k's and again it can't be over eighteen
ton on a Class one, so you need a truck
license and then you can drive over thirty k's with
a roller, sorry, a greater loader, all those ones your self.
Laying tracks cranes are gotten, but you can't operate because
you need a crane ticket to operate it.

Speaker 22 (01:07:14):
And it with tracks is like.

Speaker 11 (01:07:17):
Crushes and things like that, but then you need another
ticket to operate that too. But they sort of the
self playing tracks of the Class one licensed. It's really
just you can work as a laborer on a job
on the road site and allowed to move things back.
That importance every about it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Yeah, I would imagine when you talk about most of
its safety, I imagine most of that would be about
tipping and spatial wed. It's not reversing into someone, is
that right?

Speaker 11 (01:07:49):
Yeah, Well, the big question they tell you is don't
operate until you're confident to operate it, and have a
confident operator teaching you. Yeah, even once you've got it,
because I've been operating burgers for thirty years and yeah,
I'm good. But it took a long time and it
took a lot of damage and stuff like that. You

(01:08:11):
do you know, I mean people say that they're tough,
but you hit something and break your hose, he goes
a thousand dollars.

Speaker 9 (01:08:18):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:08:18):
You pick up a hammer and drop it, you know,
and then you break the lines on that or you're
hammering and you break the mile. You know, that's a
thousand dollars. Everything's worth a lot of money, and yeah,
and it's very easy to tip. The people go alongside
the hell. But if you put your boons out the
right way and they can drive anywhere you want. You

(01:08:40):
can put on the back of a truck I can
without no ramps, you know, from the ground, and not
say a pie tanner on the back of the semi
not a low loader, I mean a normal truck YEP
two and a half meters.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Do people appreciate a good bigger driver. Yeah they do.

Speaker 11 (01:08:58):
Yeah, it takes a long time. You got to sit
in that seat, and a lot of the time with
roading and that you're not actually in it. You need
to be loading trucks all day or something. Stay on
mind sight. That's good to learn a little bit about
the sticks, but a general twenty ton of loading trucks
and working, you know, like I've done underground car parks

(01:09:18):
in that in Sydney go down like ten floors solid
sandstone with big saws on them and everything on thirty tonners,
big tungsten te saws.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Hang on. I'm quite interested in this. So the solid sandstone,
they've got to chop it up into blocks and remove it.

Speaker 11 (01:09:38):
Well, you cut the boundaries out to stop the vibrations
from the buildings next door for a start, and you
do chop it into blocks and then hammer it out
into blocks.

Speaker 7 (01:09:49):
Yeah, you do it.

Speaker 11 (01:09:49):
I've done it like that before vibration.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
The overburden, the stuff they take out. Is that used?
Do they use that for construction as well as that
cut into blocks or is that just waste?

Speaker 10 (01:10:01):
No?

Speaker 11 (01:10:02):
Well, I used to sell it to you know, container
loads will go away over season. I'd you know, dress it,
but sometimes you just smash it up the rock and
it used to go out to turn Our or something
like that where they'd take the sand out of the
beach and put sandstone rocks back in there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
But it's amazing in the middle of Sydney. It is
amazing the geology of Sydney. They're lucky with that. That's
that sandstone base is just amazing. It's just amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:10:28):
Yeh.

Speaker 11 (01:10:30):
We'd go down ten fours and end up just with
twenty tons at the bottom and have long reaches at
the top of twenty five meter booms on them, and
your trucks sit, you know, ten to fifteen meters away
from you because it's how long the boom is. You're
standing up, you can't see your bucket now, Tom diggers
on platforms right in the main street of Sydney South Extreet. Yeah,

(01:10:53):
done all over Sydney.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Well on that, friends, you keep going.

Speaker 11 (01:11:00):
That's very interesting doing those jobs like that. That's how
you learn that to operate because it's scary. Day goes
by quick. You know you're hanging off cliffs and you've
got to get out. At the end you will have
a smaller machine you get them out of cranes, but
your last bit of dirt you get out for with
a drag line.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
That nice to talk front of interested Jeremy, thank you
thirteen to ten. I hate to say it looks at
a very unexciting cricket match. They need sixty one from
sixty one. Actually there's one ball comes since them. It's
an ad now it's share in that ad, which I
don't really understand. It's beneath her that doing ads for uberrits.
I old thought. Anyway, why do people do this? Will
this money? Do an ad for uber ets? Why would

(01:11:40):
sure do that? Share? Share? Hey, wheels, tracks and rollers.
It's one of the topics for tonight and GST. I'm
enjoying people talking about their jobs with wheels, tracks and rollers.

(01:12:04):
If you want to embark on this discover or part.
Let me just look at the scores up now. Australia
one two two four one over ten over is they
need sixty from sixty bulls March sixty three head thirty
one short twenty three. There's just been the one wicke
at Henry out four nine notes. Sorry, I don't know

(01:12:25):
what the one wicket was, but didn't hear that first
name dan ed I hid hid out for double three
thirty three hasn't been the world's most exciting match because

(01:12:45):
the only thing about twenty twenty matches you want exciting finish.
You haven't got that. But you've wasted your day, I think.
But do come through if you want to talk. There's
anything else you want to mention. Good, good, good. October
Fest Fairgrounds closed after bomb threat and deadly explosion. One

(01:13:07):
dead early today. The Minister of the Environment has been
accused of using a position to influence the Council's legal
process in a way that can also benefit her National
Party colleague, but Minister Penny Simmons said it's wholly appropriate
to engage with the primary sector, and the Primeer's Officer
indicated there was no reason to believe there had been
a breach of the Cabinet manual. We'll just say yes

(01:13:30):
or no. I don't say there's no reason to believe.
Official document show Simmons had written Horizon Regional Council acknowledging
her colleague Chris Bishop, and received a letter from a
group of Sandtoft area farmers raising and turn out delays
and consent. She then requests the explanation about what was
delaying the granting irogation content for a group of farmers,
including a farm owned by laying a TICKI MP Nationals.

(01:13:52):
Sue's redmain ten away from ten. Now, it's good if
you know something. By the way, the GST was invented
by Wilhelm von Siemens in nineteen eighteen. That's really proposed. However,
it was introduced in Germany till nineteen sixty eight. The
first place in the world to have a value added

(01:14:15):
tax or a GST was the Ivory Coast, which was
a colony of France. Was successful. Therefore, four years later
France introduced it domestically Yep and France. It's the largest

(01:14:37):
source of state finance, accounting forany fifty percent of state revenues.
Could someone tell me what percentage of state revenues The
GST is in New Zealand. I don't know where you'd
find that. I suppose check GPTAI. But there we go,
Ivory Coast the first place for GST. Put that in
the quiz, Dan, that's a good ee, done done, done done. Wheels,

(01:15:02):
Tracks and Rollers. Someone says it's not sheer On that
edit's AI.

Speaker 9 (01:15:12):
Is that right?

Speaker 10 (01:15:15):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
I don't think so. You couldn't use her.

Speaker 10 (01:15:20):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
I think that's the sparkhead where it's AI. Skinny's AI.
But sure she's like a turn mag time, but that's
not AI. She wouldn't agree to it. Gosh, we're struggling
with the world these days, aren't we. Someone says, watching

(01:15:45):
NRL DOTO now proud of you? What does that mean?
They might be listening to the podcast? Ah, anyway, do
come through you want to talk on air? Heetel twelve

(01:16:06):
should be quick though, now, Marcus. In nineteen eighty six,
I left school at sixty on the West Coast and
started working at a gold mine. I got my wheels,
tracks and roller license when I turned eighteen. Back then
I didn't need it for work. I set the theory

(01:16:27):
in town. Then the cop tuned up in his falcon,
I jumped in the twenty ton digger. The cop fleshed
his lights and I jumped in a twenty five ton digger,
then a forty ton bulldoze or the heavy license covered
light class as well. I've been contracting for twenty five
years now. Our company has two thirty ton diggers with
high ab cranes about on the back and go where
the trucks can't go. Brian, what a success story that

(01:16:49):
sounds like, Brian. Good on you, Marcus. W T license
is a far is a oh sorry, I don't understand that,
but thank you for texting. Passenger endorsement needs a police check,

(01:17:11):
license suspension was no worries. Take the job with less
hours and you'll easy get more work if you're a liable,
easiest job in the world on the buses. Thank you, Marcus.
Do you know if you have to do a memory
test when you renew the license in eighty two? I
don't think so. I don't know what it's like to
get an old age license. I haven't done it. Wheels, tracks, rollers, yep,

(01:17:35):
that's the discussion, and be a part of if you
want to, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. I'm
a Hittel twelve midnight and Tim Beverage on from twelve. Now,
how much of our money gets taken incomers from GST.

(01:17:55):
That's an important bit of information, isn't it? Is there
a pigraph? Individual tax is fifty nine billion, GST is
thirty billions. A quarter of the income is from GST,
half is from individual tax. Wow, it's significant. Hello, Matt,

(01:18:18):
this is Marcus. Welcome, good a. How are you good?
Thank you Matte.

Speaker 23 (01:18:24):
It's the story. Hey, Marcus, I've got I've just started
a digger training school. And I hear that you're talking
about the world rollers.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
You're at the digger school. Yeah, tell me more.

Speaker 16 (01:18:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:18:37):
Well, I operate diggers for a.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Living and you've been you've opened the school. Yes, oh jeepers,
I thought you'd attended. Okay, wow, yes, tell me more.

Speaker 8 (01:18:49):
Yep.

Speaker 23 (01:18:49):
So I operate diggers for a living, and I know
that there's a shortage of skilled operators, and I just
basically for what the heck are we going to do
about this? So I've sort of put my best foot
forward and I've started a digger training school specializing and
training beginning. Yes, and I'm putting people through the paces

(01:19:10):
to learn how to operate, check the oil, check the fluids,
check all the maintenance and how to operate it safely.
And I'm also putting people through training to get their wheels,
tracks and rollers licenses.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Where about day you, Matt.

Speaker 23 (01:19:27):
We're located in Bombay, right at the top of the
hill by the motorway.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Good place to be. You've got You've got good robust
diggers for them to train on that don't break down
under the under the novices.

Speaker 23 (01:19:38):
Yep, We've I've got a Caboda digger. It's leading in
it's in its field, so we've got great gear. I've
got rollers, tractors, We've pretty much got everything. So I've
just this year I've been training most of the high
schools around Auckland. All the students have been killing into

(01:20:01):
me as part of the Gateway program. Sure, and I've
had really really good feedback and I've managed to get
two or three people jobs out of it. So next
year we're really going to put the hammer down in
and try and get a lot more coming through our school.

(01:20:22):
There's actually a new legislation coming out around the wheels, tracks,
rollers that you've got to have a minimum of eight
hours experience before you're eligible for the license. Yes, so
we've set up an eight hour course which puts people
through excavator training, roller training, and specialized machinery for the

(01:20:45):
wheels part of the assessment.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Which which and what is the what does the wills
normally refer.

Speaker 23 (01:20:51):
To anything that has wheels?

Speaker 9 (01:20:57):
Basically, so.

Speaker 23 (01:20:59):
You're talking like front end loaders, tractors, bobcats, all that
sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Hey, tell me something, Matt. You would the digger people said,
they're quite difficult. How long how many hours would you
need to do on a digger before you go to
a work for a job and you'd walk on there
and you wouldn't you wouldn't shame yourself.

Speaker 23 (01:21:22):
I'd say between sort of ten hours and forty or
fifty hours.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Okay, it's quite hard to get that time up because
you guess you go and hire a digger, you can't really.

Speaker 13 (01:21:32):
Do it, can you?

Speaker 23 (01:21:33):
Exactly? And how I came about this was I had
quite a lot of work on at one stage, and
I was ringing around all my friends and family and
other people that I knew and trying to get someone
come and help me who knew how to load a
truck or scrape up a stockpile or just do something basic.

(01:21:54):
And I literally just couldn't find anybody that I could
throw in that was confident and made me feel confident
in their ability. And I just thought, well, man, where
can I get someone trained up? There's just literally nowhere.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
So has it been good? Has it been good? Feedback
from the employers of your workers?

Speaker 23 (01:22:18):
Yeah, excellent, that's that's really cool. And I'm having heaps
of fun doing it, which is the main thing you've
got to You've got to have fun while you're doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
What's the name of your company, Matt.

Speaker 23 (01:22:32):
My name in my company is Griffin's Operator Academy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
Griffin's Operator Academy. Oh, yeah, it seems good.

Speaker 23 (01:22:39):
We haven't got a website. We haven't got a website yet,
but we've got a Facebook page that's got a lot
of our photos and videos and things on there, and
I'm super super passionate about what we're doing. And I
reckon that eventually you're going to have to have some
sort of license to be able to be on a
machine on a site like a Fletcher's site, all that

(01:23:02):
sort of thing. So I'm trying to get ahead of
the game. And get set up so that when that
rolls around we can hit the ground running and get
more skilled operators in the market.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Did you have to buarb it of land to operate
at all to have your headquarters.

Speaker 23 (01:23:21):
Well, fortunately, I've got a really good mate in Bombay,
Cam Vernon from Vernon Developments and he's given me a
piece of his yard area which I occupy and do
all my training. And so it's a big grass area
with no underground services, nothing around that we can hit.
It's nice and flat, it's just perfect for training. We

(01:23:44):
can dig holes, we can backfill, we can trench. I'm
teaching people how to use laser levels, so one person
is on the machine digging the trench and then another
person's got the laser level sort of chasing them along,
checking the heights. We drill holes, we load things, basically
everything everything. I've set the whole yard up to be

(01:24:08):
real world scenarios.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Yep, I'm hearing you. Can everyone drive a digger or can?
Some people? Just hopeless?

Speaker 23 (01:24:19):
Everyone can drive a digger, but I've had a few
people that have raised my eyebrows. But I mean, it's
just all about getting the experience and getting the training
and Unfortunately, you just can't really get that. No one's
got the time, no one's got the space, or the
or the equipment. I mean you can go and high
one and learn yourself, but.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
Your house or yeah, I guess you got the whole
generation that spend all their time on video games too.
They're great with joysticks.

Speaker 23 (01:24:48):
Say yeah, and I'll tell you what. Some of the
students that have come through are absolutely amazing. They pick
it up straight away and like I said, I've got
a couple of them jobs out of it. So once
they've come through my course, they get a certificate of
completion and they can attach that to their CV and
it just just helps them become a bit more employable.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
What's your name of your company again.

Speaker 8 (01:25:10):
Met.

Speaker 23 (01:25:12):
Griffin's Operator Academy.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Brilliant, great, cool, Thank you, Griffin's Operator Academy. Catherine's listening
to us at the cricket, Marcus. I'm at the cricket blinking, windy, cold,
but PI having a good time. The haze you see
going across the ground is off the salt piles behind
the Bay Oval. Wow, you wouldn't need sold on your chips.
It just blows across Australia. One seventy one for three

(01:25:34):
eleven from twenty eight balls. They've won this so threshing
twenty past ten. One line there free. If you want
to be a part of the show, get involved. Eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty sharky Marcus Welcome, Yeah, Marcus?

Speaker 20 (01:25:49):
Can we clone man Matchet?

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
I reckon? There's a franchise opportunity there. Speaking of cloning,
can you clone your phone? Can you get it better?

Speaker 20 (01:26:08):
It's working now?

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Gotcha? Okay, how far away?

Speaker 24 (01:26:10):
What do you got.

Speaker 20 (01:26:13):
Anyways? So yeah, no, I think he should one because
I really think that is awesome.

Speaker 8 (01:26:23):
Now.

Speaker 20 (01:26:23):
The other thing is that anybody coming down the bomb
Baby Hills on the State Highway twenty seven it has
closed for roadbics, so they're sending everybody down State Highway one.
And also what I'd like to know how many other
CAP drivers out the collector matchbox and hot wheels cars

(01:26:45):
head from the vps when they're following up the diesel.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Are they doing that?

Speaker 20 (01:26:50):
Now?

Speaker 8 (01:26:52):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
As the hot wheels as heading offer on now at BP.

Speaker 20 (01:26:57):
Well, no, they cost about five backs each, but I've
got a huge amount of colleasion of them. Every time
I go in I buy a couple more and a
couple more.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
And yeah, so they sell hot they sell hot wheels
at BP stations. That what you're saying.

Speaker 20 (01:27:14):
Yeah, they sell hot wells and match.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Box cars or just your trucks as well.

Speaker 20 (01:27:21):
Oh all a little packaged cars.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
Okay, it's a good question, sharky. I'll find out.

Speaker 18 (01:27:27):
Yeah, some of them.

Speaker 20 (01:27:28):
Some of them are cars. Some of them are like
little motorbikes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
And how many have you got? How many have you got?

Speaker 20 (01:27:34):
Oh, I've got about.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
You might have an addiction you might need to go
to some sort of meeting about that. That's a lot.

Speaker 20 (01:27:42):
I think they should have been smaller thing because you
can pretty sick of it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
But yeah, where are you putting them all.

Speaker 20 (01:27:50):
In my main case?

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
No, of course? Yeah, okay, sharky, thank you. I think
we've drawn. We're either one point one where one run
less sorry Australia needs one more run. But on the
last ball, key, we's got a wicket. So they be
fairing around with commercials now to get the other person
up there for what we can think about thirty balls
left to win, they'll win this. Hello, Ben, this is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
Yeah, you get markets again? Good things, Ben, Hey, this wheels,
tracks and rollers. It's a bit of a have I reckon.
I had an endorsement because I didn't mind a few
years back and you just said in the classroom, you
just answered a bunch of questions which were pretty much
given to you the answers, and then you went and
jumped in a digger. You just had to start it

(01:28:36):
up with the bucket up, move it forward, moving backwards
and around, and that was it. The roller was the
roller around the yard.

Speaker 7 (01:28:45):
Park it up.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
You didn't actually do any work with it. And I
asked the guy, I said, so what's the point of us,
You know, I don't even know how to operate a
big lot of if hide lots of little diggers, and
he just goes to the whole point of the heavy
wheel tracks, so you can operate on a public space.
So he drives the role of down the road, We'll

(01:29:09):
drive the digger across the road.

Speaker 12 (01:29:10):
Or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
That that's a public public and excess to the area.
You're harding to drive a little digger, just a little
one point five time diggers and just hiring to do
work around the yard. And when I went and on
a construction site with figgers, I never got to drive
a big digger, but they said, well, he's driven any
diggers before, And I said, I just lit a wheel

(01:29:32):
ones And they said, if you can drive one of those,
a big twenty tons digger, you'll be able to drive
a piece of cake because it's real easy.

Speaker 12 (01:29:40):
To win.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
As opposed to a little whee one. So they reckon
if you drive a little wee one, you have a
big one, real real good.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
What do they cost for that whole what do they
cost a higher?

Speaker 4 (01:29:52):
Well, it depends on where you go. You got a
hid pool, you can hire them for like two hundred
and twenty something bucks a week.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
In Oh, that's not bad, Okay they are.

Speaker 4 (01:30:01):
That's pretty crap because then you get eight hours free.
But if you go over the eight hours and you're
paying money on top of the eight hours, yep. But
you know something some local places where I live, there
he's got a bunch of diggers and he hires them
out and he just changes on the hourly rate so
he can have it. But it's an apple. When COVID happened,
before COVID, lofty down happened, I went and got a

(01:30:22):
dig off the sky and I had it sit in
there for the all of COVID, and when I gave
it back to him, he just charged me for the
hours that I used it just to work around the
around the property.

Speaker 15 (01:30:34):
So there he was charging.

Speaker 4 (01:30:36):
There was forty seven dollars an hour, so used to
dig it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
So have you got have you got work?

Speaker 20 (01:30:43):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
Are you working on big diggers or No?

Speaker 4 (01:30:47):
I'm not in that idustry anymore. I just but I
got my wheels, tracks and rollers when I was at
doing construction stuff. But I thought it was a bit
of a have and I asked the guy, of course,
and I said, So it's a young fellow wants some
money and he goes it says, I want to go
be a digger driver, comes and doss tracks, wilds of
tracks and rollers, goes and buys themselves a big digger

(01:31:09):
and then he'll potentially kill some because then they properly.

Speaker 12 (01:31:13):
Yeah, it's say, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:31:16):
Not the dog's not the teacher how to operate the diggers?
Here to head to drive the digger, if you know
what I mean. Get from point B. It's your workplaces
responsibility to teach you how to operate the digger.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
It makes sense to me. Ben, Thanks for that twenty
six past ten Mike Marcus.

Speaker 9 (01:31:36):
Welcome, good leaving Marcus. A good digger operator can make
the machines dance, and you know when they're working them,
it's quite it's quite nice to see. Sometimes it's like
choreographic performance. I worked in the construction industry in the

(01:31:56):
White Catto for a few years and I had the
chance to operate.

Speaker 12 (01:31:59):
A couple of diggers. But I always thought when it
was like Perry's sand pit during the White Ketto when
you out and loading your crack up, always sort of
it would be a good business. They had half a
dozen diggers and then hie them out to white collar
workers that sit in their office all day long with

(01:32:20):
their white shirts and ties and cards and a couple
of hundred bucks for a day's course, and just didn't
go for it. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
I'm sure also are going to be a good video.
There's probably video games you can do it. Are they
where you can actually play? Because I guess it's probably
quite a solid skill, is it.

Speaker 12 (01:32:36):
That is a bit of a skill, because you're trying
and operat two controls of the extended the extension and
the bucket pick up, and they have to swing at
the same time and make sure you're not having any
lamp posts or white shreddings or buildings and that sort
of stuff. You've got to be pretty pretty onto it.
With a few hours training. Sometimes we're going to be

(01:33:01):
drive a cuck and trailer and sometimes when we would
go to a site and we'd have to load ourselves
and you know, let's see you got used to it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
Yeah, yep, nice to hear from you, Mike. Thanks for that.
Keep your calls coming through. We've lost the cricket. We're
always going to I think after those early wicket losses
we never were there was one hundred century but yeah,
just not enough. Australia came out firing, very cold, very cold,
end windy there with the ice, sorry, the salt blowing across.

(01:33:34):
Who was the lawyer driver Dan? Yeah, I think Dave's
meeting men on Monday to help him. It's gonna check
some legal juice on him. By the sound of things,
must have gone out the back and got themselves sorted together.
People do what well. I don't put people in touch
with each other, by the way on the show, they'll

(01:33:54):
always be just doing through their own free will. With
Google and stuff. That's not something I do only because
I'm always don't want anyone doing anything sketchy. I don't
want to be involved with that. Stephanie, Yes, afternoon, you'd
be whales, tracks, rollers, would you?

Speaker 20 (01:34:11):
Oh yeah? Oh yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:34:14):
I did heavy haulage for about ten years.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
What does that mean?

Speaker 24 (01:34:20):
Diggers, borosers, motor scrapers, mobile cranes, rollers, road stabilizers, graters,
any good like that. I did enjoy it, the part
from taking the ship out of the tracks, on the
things and the bordozers that the operators lived in there. Yeah, yeah,

(01:34:45):
but yeah, these operators they will like if you're doing
a forestry job you're doing up there, and they would
drive it to the back of the transporter and hop out.
And I said to one of them one day, I says,
you can put a lot if you like. Well, no,
he says, I'll take it over the side of the hill,
but I won't put her on the transporters too narrow.

Speaker 11 (01:35:06):
Ah.

Speaker 24 (01:35:11):
We would turn up some of these road roading sites
in that and we would have to load day or
night by ourselves, chain it down and take it to
the next next place it was going to, you know,
And if the batteries were flat, we'd have to jump
start it. So yeah, and that was because is it quite?

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
Is it quite?

Speaker 12 (01:35:34):
Here?

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
He loaded them onto the backs of track, Stephanie.

Speaker 24 (01:35:38):
Depends where you pack. If you've got a cross slope
to your trailer, yeah, you're asking for trouble because it
will slide to the downhill side of the forward and
back was up and down. Yeah, not a problem. But
that sideway slope, you don't want that at all.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
I suppose you're working with Maddad. Things could get stuck
as well. The truck could get stuck like in the book.
Could all go bad quite quickly.

Speaker 10 (01:36:07):
It can go bad.

Speaker 24 (01:36:09):
Yeah, but you just try and not not have to
get bad and get out. And yeah, but I did
enjoy it because you've got to drive a lot of
machines that a lot of other people would never even
get the sit in.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
Even Well, it's quite enjoyable driving different stuff like diggers,
is it.

Speaker 24 (01:36:32):
Oh yeah, you got really good at because when you're
carting a digger, some of them might have five different
packets and you've got to take all five with you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
Oh I see, So you've got to be.

Speaker 24 (01:36:44):
Able to pick them up and put them on your
trailer as well, and change them down and yeah, so
you got good at shioping up.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
Packets and yes, anything hit me out there tonight, Stephanie.

Speaker 24 (01:36:57):
Oh only roadworks and.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
Strong wind.

Speaker 24 (01:37:06):
No, no, I'm just coming through living heading north and.

Speaker 20 (01:37:10):
No wins.

Speaker 24 (01:37:11):
Okay there the degrees down he is, so he's but
coller than isid Yeah, not too bad at all. But yeah,
the machines, you know you are going on doing it.
You got sent to pick up a machine, but you
weren't trained in how to.

Speaker 9 (01:37:32):
Drive it.

Speaker 24 (01:37:33):
Yes, you picked that up on the job.

Speaker 19 (01:37:35):
So you turn up.

Speaker 24 (01:37:35):
I thought you haven't driven one of these forts. So
he had to learn there and then on the spot
because there was no one there to help you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Yeah, okay, nice to talks, definitely, thanks so much. There
twenty five to eleven hit or twelve. We're talking whales,
track's rollers licenses. It wasn't the topic I thought about,
but it's a much better topic actually actually, Also this day,
in nineteen eighty six, GST was introduced to New Zealand.
Now it's a quarter of our text income. But you

(01:38:07):
don't pay GST on gold. No one's quite told me
why about that? Yeah, powerbornnots struck. It's up to twelve million.
Will that be enough? Twelve million? We lost the cricket.

(01:38:29):
No surprises there, but get in touch. You want to
talk here till midnight twenty four away from eleven. Hello,
Ryan Marcus, Welcome Mark Sally mate.

Speaker 15 (01:38:41):
Yeah, brig good.

Speaker 6 (01:38:43):
He just touching based on the subject to wheels, tracks
and rollers. Yes, yeah, I own a contracting business and
have done next level civil We're based down and taking
mini and got plenty to share on the subjects of whales,

(01:39:04):
tracks and rollers and licenses and the like. It's definitely
an interesting subject that a lot of people know about,
no including me, So it's yeah, I suppose from I've
been in the industry for almost fifteen years and sort
of gone through the ranks from running the bottom right

(01:39:25):
through the only my own business for five or six years.
So seen it from a wide zoom. I didn't hear
it before, but a good friend of mine, Matt Griffin
from the Degger Academy, he's definitely on to a good
thing there. Something that he's definitely highlighted in the area

(01:39:46):
that you'd think this day and age, you could you know,
if you're a young fellow wanting to leave school and
operate machines or you know, do anything like that that
you could sort of probably slip out of high school
and go to somewhere like that and sort of a
way you go. But funnily enough, in twenty twenty five
he's sort of the first private man to do it

(01:40:07):
in the in the Auckland area anyway, from what I've seen.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
Yeah, it seems as though you get your license, but
you still don't know what to do with any of
the gear, which and that seems to be a bit
of a gap in the whole area.

Speaker 6 (01:40:19):
Well do they call it like as a cereal box
license more more of a tip box exercise? And there's
actually like probably that said, actually.

Speaker 7 (01:40:30):
Training the guy.

Speaker 6 (01:40:32):
It's the concept of what they're doing the excavation that
the excavator is just a tool to do it. It's
no different to a shovel or a rake, and that's
really all it is, to be honest. An excavator is
really just a big shovel or a rake, you know,
depends on how you're using it or loading trucks a
big scoop or the basic concept of is that. But

(01:40:54):
learning how to operate a digger and building a motorway
pavement or operating and efficiently.

Speaker 4 (01:41:03):
And all the stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:41:05):
To be honest, markets like the root cause of a
lot of efficiency problems we have in news Zellan, you know,
the big construction blowouts and how long it takes to
do things like from a construction perspective. I know, I
worked on the Southern Corridor project and that was a
couple of years ago now, and that project moved very,

(01:41:27):
very slow, and by the end of it, we were
getting yelled at, and you know, the whole public hated
anyone who had anything to do with it because when
you brought it down, no one really knew what they
were doing. And the guys that didn't know, there was.

Speaker 3 (01:41:43):
A few, don't get me wrong, there was a few
amazing guys on the team there, but there was also
a lot that in the end just got sick of
the scrutiny and the everything else involved in it.

Speaker 6 (01:41:56):
And there's there's just going to be a huge I'm
already seen it as a huge age gap in retirement.
I mean, there's there's the facts of something stupid right
about how need people are going to retire in the
next so that years.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
I think that Mett's it wasn't called the Digger Company,
was called.

Speaker 6 (01:42:17):
Griffin h Griffin Digger Academy.

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
No, it was a Griffin anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:42:24):
That's fine, yeah, yeah, yeah, but no, it's I've had
a lot to do with it, and that from the
top end as well through through the industry organization and
seeing sudden the inside of it. And there's a complex problem,
especially for the US private contractors that don't have the
resources like these big companies do. Now you know there is,

(01:42:46):
says the mafia, and a lot of right, it's a
good thing for New Zealand because at the end of
the day, the taxpayers need the roads built and they
need the capability, and the capability in New Zealand is
unfortunately starting to really lie in the top four or
five companies.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
Are we losing heaps to go overseas to the mind
all our good people because the money there's so good.

Speaker 6 (01:43:06):
Well, it is dropping off from what I understand, Like
you hear all sorts of perspectives. But at the end
of the day, if you're good at what you do,
you can make executr money anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
You know, that'd be pretty big on the training in
the minds they wouldn't they they'd be quite a big
part of that, wouldn't it.

Speaker 6 (01:43:25):
Yeah, it is a different game. No markers in the mind,
you're only working to You might be working to find
nash tolerances, but when you're building a motorway or a pavement,
or you're doing a road rehabilitation or you're building a subdivision,
you're working to ten five millimeters, you know, And it's
that last probably, to be honest, last two hundred millimeters

(01:43:46):
to accuracy is where we are seriously going to have
a problem in about ten to fifteen years.

Speaker 17 (01:43:52):
And you can try to.

Speaker 6 (01:43:53):
Offset it with technology as much as you can, but
I mean I can't see technology boxing up concrete.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
And are they droned in autonomous vehicles.

Speaker 8 (01:44:06):
Here?

Speaker 6 (01:44:06):
I mean, that will be a big part, to be honest.
But we've still got a huge existing infrastructure, right and
by the time you look at designing and surveying and
automating and like one day it will you know, road
maintenance can be done probably relatively autonomously. But like machines

(01:44:27):
are one thing. But like I say, actually, and like
we all say, actually, having the experience a mithermeter experience,
like concrete is twenty different variables on the day, from
weather to winds. You know, there's technology is just not
going to be able to manage the inspecshally New Zealing
Like New Zealand, we're in a funny you know, geography wise,

(01:44:49):
we got beast shalt all through Auckland. There's it's just yeah,
I'm not really as the contractor, and there's a business
owner and an employer as well. I'm I'm a little
bit worried, but it sort of highlights that if you
can pull it together and find good guys and hear
them with experience, and then your own little training programs

(01:45:10):
and put them through guys like Matt, there is a
way forward. But you know with minimum wage at what
twenty what's minimum range today?

Speaker 15 (01:45:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:45:20):
I'm an employer. I don't even know twenty.

Speaker 23 (01:45:22):
Ford or or something.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
I was going to say twenty five about that twenty five.

Speaker 6 (01:45:26):
You know, if you have a school lever and he's
eighteen years old, you've got to play at twenty five
dollars an.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
Hour textually twenty three textually twenty three fifty. I've just
found out. Ryan. Well, I've got to run, but nice
to talk to Thank you for that. Twenty fifteen Away
from eleven, twelve to eleven. The delim Awards are on
too tonight. I'll let you know what happens. A couple
of worries are up there to I think Mark and
Nawa's NASTI will be getting Try of the Year for

(01:45:50):
that miracle. I would have mentioned they'd be no surprises
for that one. Another thing to get in newcomer because
he's played another code. He's played Union twelve away from eleven.
The cricket disbel Disibal. We lost that quite convincingly. Pete
Marcus welcome, you know macaus.

Speaker 17 (01:46:05):
I want to give back gon dole instead of that.
In the family, it's very stead of. It's having about Nigel.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
Grade Pete Letter not letter, Oh yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:46:13):
Letter, Yeah, it's such a yeah, such a great man
for what he what he didn't know regarding your discipline,
works and stuff that'll bring up kids in there. It's
big loss of the country really. But yeah, just going
on about the about the GST dates. You know, I
think you know the first date when it first came in.
I just see how good you are for you with
a bit of a quiz, what was the.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
First day with that came in first of October ninety.

Speaker 17 (01:46:37):
Six, Yeah, and that there, So what was that?

Speaker 7 (01:46:42):
What was.

Speaker 18 (01:46:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:46:46):
And what was it when it was the second change?

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
What date was that? It was nin ninety nine?

Speaker 6 (01:46:51):
Was it?

Speaker 17 (01:46:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:46:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (01:46:53):
Right, and that was on the.

Speaker 17 (01:46:56):
Yeah, that was ninety eighty nine, the first of July
and the.

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
Oh kezy did it? Didn't he? I should be able
to remember this. I like a quiz. Don't tell me anyone.
I think probably men was key and was keying from
two thousand and six to two. I'd say two thousand
and nine was it?

Speaker 17 (01:47:19):
Yeah, it's pretty close twenty ten, first of October. I
don't know why they just don't do it on the
first of October, so everybody knows it's always on the
first of October that goes up. They just keep there
as a protocol.

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
Really that I put it up anymore, I find it
quite depressing.

Speaker 17 (01:47:33):
I reckon it well, but it's easy tax and I
hope it doesn't, but I reckon it will. Eventually it
just sort of go up. Probably see if they won't
do it too, they probably put it up the seventeen
per scenes. I will just slowly increase. What's the it's
almost riding on the wallfarre as I.

Speaker 15 (01:47:46):
In the food.

Speaker 17 (01:47:47):
If you're just regaining licenses and that I got every
license you can think of. I drive fucking trailers, both
milk tankers on that. But I used to my dangerous
good license all the time. But every five years you've
got to redo that one. You hardly use it all
depends what you're what you're driving, and what you hat
like long haul drives. They might take it for whatever
they can having you gonna you're gonna. It's a bit

(01:48:08):
about you gonna know what what what to put them
off each other so you ain't that things mix up?
Could you could blow things up so that it costs
about fo hundred dollars every five years to do that.
I stopped.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
That's crazy. Yeah, that's that's hold of the economy back.
You even have to pay a fortune for license. You
got wheels, track rollers, pete.

Speaker 14 (01:48:24):
Here, you got the whole lot.

Speaker 17 (01:48:25):
I got my passenger vehicles. Got me if if the
t w you got the whole on every truck lies,
every truck car boy, hold on, there's one of them
with me. Was when it used to be the police.
I went to get my taxi license.

Speaker 2 (01:48:38):
I was.

Speaker 17 (01:48:38):
I used to do construction, you know, wowling and it
cuite off and you got laid off. And I said,
oh help, when you're young, you're gonna make some money.
You paid. What I'll do is I'll I'll go and
get some of these licenses. And I thought I would
just go and get my I think it was my
passenger vehicle license at the time. It's so I was
getting my passionate vehicle license. And then the ladies see
just what they change over from the police. He said,

(01:48:59):
before you what you want to do, if you've got
some time, sit the whole lot, because it's well, once
it goes to private, will go up. So I got
all the road codes and everything. I got, every damn
one of them went to was lucky. He had a
hearing New Plymouth. We had had a general uh. He
did landscaping in that. I went there and I just
went in the good old days, and you just went
in the I'll give me some beers and I've got

(01:49:21):
me got me digger license, and I got me track
licensing and on that. Afterning the cop came around. I
saw police then and he said, jump on that and
as long as you can see me going backwards and falls,
I got stood the digger around and so I got
my license. I never used it since I've got on
my licenses.

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
But yeah, have you ever have you ever done pets?
You ever driven a bus?

Speaker 3 (01:49:41):
I have.

Speaker 17 (01:49:41):
I started to getting the police force here a few
years ago. It gave me a few years ago now
and and I do. And I was just in the
course I was driving. Yeah, I just driving the doing
the kids, just in the morning, just in the morning
run you know, getting the four scorn utter score, did
that for almost six months for the thing. But yeah,
I just see just just one thing I want to
bring up to about the local elections. I'm just saying,

(01:50:04):
as I please, what happened to day with the government.
They are slowly realized that you know that we have
to look for more gas. And if my thing, if
you look on my profile and in the Christians side,
if it game from the profile, the my statement is
that you know, as you we have to look for
all the gas. So my motto is today is drill, baby, Drill.

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
It's a bit trump you and have you got wheels,
tracks and rollers on your campaign statement? Peak because people
will be interested in that. A guy that's practical.

Speaker 14 (01:50:37):
Well, I've done it all.

Speaker 17 (01:50:37):
I've been in the gap it on.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
Is it on your bio on your election form.

Speaker 17 (01:50:42):
No, I've been, I've done welding. I I did my
structure it on my well. Actually got me welding tickets
when they built the Motorne plant from made when they
when they made it from gas to petrol.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
Okay, I've got to run it. Nice to hear from
your good luck. Yes, indeed it is just coming up
to news at eleven. Tim Beveridge will be along from
twelve tonight. We're talking about Wels Roller. I could ever
remember Wales tracks rollers. There we go, remember that right

(01:51:19):
about Wals tracks rollers. You might be coming home from
the cricket that was disappointing on it didn't really fire.
So come through if you want to talk about that.
Now there's something else you want to talk about. We're
a broad Church. Anything goes hittl twelve mm hmm. Robbie

(01:51:42):
Williams has said he's got Turett's syndrome. Yep, there you go.
You've always got something in the old Robbie. There's been
a bomb gone off at the October Fest. There is
a cyclone amy that's turning towards the UK. There we go.

(01:52:08):
That's all happened. Get in touch. You want to talk
Marcus till twelve, anything else you want to talk about,
I'm here for it. But today, in nine eighty six,
JST was introduced. Yes, it's been quite interesting. Didn't know
that was a thing. I yeah, it was a thing.
I didn't know it was. I wasn't in the country,

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so I can't remember what it was like the day
it happened. But others will know, just not me. So
get in touches you want to be a part of it.
You've got comments, but money. It's about wheels, tracks, rollers
and the different licenses that you got. Marcus. I learned
to drive a digger digging graves, which had to be

(01:52:51):
pretty accurate as we had to fit a steel cage
into a rectangular hole two meitters deep. It was pretty challenging,
but very rewarding. I've retired. Now I've got the digger
for our lifestyle block. There you go. There was a
comment the other day that GST could be going to
thirty two percent. I think the comment was that income

(01:53:12):
text needs to go wid up with GST. Need to
get right up because in thirty years time, for every
retired person, there will be two working people. Now it's four,
so we'll have half the amount of text going in
to pay for elderly care or to pay for the pictures.
I think more it is, but none of us is good.

(01:53:33):
We'll have robots running the rest homes. I mentioned yep
or something worse. Back atcha here till twelve, Good evening.
My name is Marcus. The number is eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty and nine to nine two text. If
you want to come through. What's happening people? We are
talk about wheels, tracks, rollers, licenses and GST. There are

(01:53:56):
the two topics for tonight. You might have been at
the cricket.

Speaker 1 (01:54:00):
That we lost.

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
We be in New Zealand, ISS. You're listening from overseas,
so yeah, get in touch if there's anything you want
to mention or talk about. There's probably how the topics
bouncing around. I'm not sure what they are, but yeah,
if you want to come through this final hour, it'd
be nice to hear from you. Oh wait, one hundred
eighty ten eighty nineteen nine two to text. You want

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to be a part of it, get those texts coming through,
two people. Retirement speck is a topic. I'd lower the
retirement age to sixty and only give it to people
who retire, with variations like accombination allowance if you don't
own a house, and be allowed to eat a small
amount extra when you get a pension. Marcus. We had

(01:54:45):
a small business in the eighties. Our tax rate was
sixty percent and our mortgage interest rate was eighteen percent. Marcus,
I spent five years in the UK. Everyone north of
Birmingham has two wrets. Has anyone out there got a
TSL Transport Service license? I'd do. It was a hard

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one to get and had to past two one and
a half papers with a minimum of eighty percent on
each one. I don't think many trackers have got it.
I also have wheels tracks as rollers, as well as
Class five for the younger mark for the younger. Quite
a bit of license bragging night and I'm here for it.

Speaker 10 (01:55:24):
Like it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
With my license?

Speaker 12 (01:55:31):
What have I got?

Speaker 2 (01:55:31):
I've got car and motorbike issued nineteen eighty four. I
think it was issued before that. I would have been
on a provisional sees the car license was issued ninety four.
I'm pretty sure that's not true. Wow, donor Kebab have

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you looked at my license before? Pretty interesting? But no wheels,
tracks rollers unfortunately, yet might be inspired tonight with the
day course. Might I hire a digger? I thought it
was quite really always good for getting out the old
plants with the old digger, getting out the old one

(01:56:18):
of those ghastly plants that grow everywhere. They're the ones
you want to get rid of. Do come through if
you want to talk. My name is Marcus welcome. Oh wait,
one hundred eighty eight text egger panthers. That's what you
need to diger for. Otherwise you've got to have all

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those funny old shovels, a posthole shovel or something to
bang the roots. Get in touch with me? Are talking
licenses and gst oh I can let me just go
back to the list of topics. I've got other topics
that I'm keeping my powder dry with. By the way,
you should be making your Christmas cake today, because today
is twelve weeks talk Christmas. Buy your fruit mix. Last

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year there was a run on fruit yep and in
the UK less than ten percent of transactions involve cash.
It was on their phone, tap and go tep and
go tep and go. Before long there will be no money.
Young people are leading the charge. By twenty thirty four,

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just four percent of transactions will be cash. Yep, but
it's wheels, tracks and rollers for us tonight. I've got
ane on the dlim's two. In case Lequahalaesima or Aaron
Clark won the awards, yep, I get TEDESCO when the

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deli and the overall medal, I think probably Peter, this
is Marcus. Welcome? Hi Peter?

Speaker 22 (01:58:00):
Hi is it Marcus?

Speaker 8 (01:58:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:58:02):
Welcome, You're welcome.

Speaker 22 (01:58:05):
I think I've got my fore couice and self lowing license.
I've had it for over sixty years. I used to
work in a factory which had various departments. Anyhow, the
Ministry Transports in the traffic around and those that wanted

(01:58:26):
to go for the four course license, he just said,
oh yeah, picked their pedal up, put it down, put
another on, tobe it, put it down. You've got your
head to license. He said, do you want to track licenses?

Speaker 13 (01:58:41):
Were?

Speaker 22 (01:58:43):
And I said, well no, not really.

Speaker 12 (01:58:46):
That sad.

Speaker 22 (01:58:47):
I couldn't see you. I couldn't see any point in
having a track license, but always had of But the
Ministry Transport sent someone around just to those who wanted
the full course license. And you got all the other
licenses with it, and that was it didn't cost anything.

Speaker 2 (01:59:10):
You know, it seems crazy how much the licenses cost
when we probably want people with licenses to be in
the industry. I can't work that out so much.

Speaker 22 (01:59:18):
Well, I don't know, it's just I'm overrating now. Yeah,
so yeah, ordering Ordering eighteen nineteen.

Speaker 2 (01:59:28):
Can you tell me what what? What's the self laying tracks?

Speaker 22 (01:59:35):
I'm gont used it, but I think it's one of
those tractors. Well, yeah, with a bigger were you're dig
in front. Oh yeah, and lego leg lego tracks. Yep, Yeah,
I think that's what it is. I've never used it,

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but as I said, the Ministry Transport sent the travel
cost around. If that put it down, If that put
down your license.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
Wow, pretty relaxed, Peter, Thanks for that. I'm just still
gonna hear a buzzing sound. What's that?

Speaker 8 (02:00:13):
Don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:00:14):
Keep your calls coming through if you want to be
a part of the show. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. I don't
know what's the buzzing is. We just take my headphones
off and listen. Oh, we'll have to live with it.
I don't like it.

Speaker 9 (02:00:29):
I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:30):
One bit spent. We spent six years and six sorry,
we spent six weeks in Scandinavia last year and in
all three countries never saw their currency card as used
for everything. And while they do take cash. I think
it's frowned upon. Kesh is society.

Speaker 8 (02:00:51):
Ha ha ha ha.

Speaker 2 (02:00:55):
You only need trucks or you only need TSL, which
is transport service license if you own or run a
trucking company. Self laying tracks is anything like an army tank.

(02:01:18):
Hi there. I started driving when I was ten. I
got my full license at sixteen and had my heavy
wheels and rollers, which include using a tea lift what's
a tea lift? Heavy, self laying tracks, diggers and ht
by age twenty two. Love driving these machines. Learned how
to use swamp pads with a digger. One digger I

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was used so big I had to make sure I
parked it up by a dirt ramp or stones when
I finished for the day, or I struggled to get
in it the next day. Also to go at driving
a dragline, but didn't like it. I'm sixty seven down.
The operator I worked for preferred female drivers as they
are not so harsh on the machinery. Isn't that the

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way twenty past eleven, all the lines are free. As
a I said, if you want to be a part
of the show, there might be something different you want.
God Marcus, as I understand that Sweden was pushing for
kesh to society who were introduced more kesh into the
economy last year. Why wouldn't they that's from Steve, thank you.

(02:02:21):
I've got no problem with the kesh to society. We
know that some people love kesh, so yeah, whatever, kesh
will always be legal. I would think. I know after
the quake in christ Judge, people loved having cash because
it gave them a sense of freedom. I think so.
I think the ATMs were down and stuff, so yeah,
maybe people have one of stories. I think they liked
people liked landlines and they liked cash. Although I let's

(02:02:42):
hope there's not another quake, but I think things will
be different, right, There'll be other things that aren't unforeseen,
things that people will be talking about next time. I mean,
there will be another quake. There's just hope it's well, yeah,
I don't say that. I hope it's somewhere different. That
seems like a silly thing to say, but who knows
where it's going to be. But yes, every time I
know people we going about cash that people are concerned about.

(02:03:03):
That about the quake and christ Judge, and also to
that civil defense emergency in Hawke's Bay where the power
was down, the ATMs were down, became difficult for people.
But need your calls down twenty one Parst eleven. If
you start on the Christmas cakes, let me know how
that is going. I me, this is Marcus welcome you

(02:03:25):
get it mate? There are you?

Speaker 8 (02:03:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:03:26):
Good things? What's happening?

Speaker 18 (02:03:28):
Oh, not too much, man, you're just talking about the
your cashless side of things and the digital infrastructure being
pushed out across the world.

Speaker 9 (02:03:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (02:03:39):
Just before he and you also talked about gold not
having GST on it. Yeah right, yeah, I think I
think the reason that gold doesn't have GSC on it
is because gold's not a man made invention, whereas legal
tender is.

Speaker 2 (02:03:56):
Oh yeah, okay, but if you if you buy a
cold you'd put GST on it.

Speaker 18 (02:04:03):
Well, if you sort it for a profit, you would, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:04:06):
Yeah, So with gold that's the situation.

Speaker 18 (02:04:11):
Well, gold's valued it at the price of gold, so
you don't really make a prop off gold were as
cold as I suppose you would. I don't know, that's
what I'm thinking. I'm thinking that's because of gold is
as a it's a natural product from out of the ground.
It's not not a man made thing.

Speaker 20 (02:04:28):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:04:29):
Are you okay? What do you think about Keshler Society?

Speaker 14 (02:04:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (02:04:35):
I mean I can see that it's like one was it.
Starma put it out of the UK just recently, and
Australia wants to do the age verification, and then Trump
decides that he wants to do some sort of age
verification thing, and then I heard a murmur that Judith
Follins was going to push it out at the end
of the year or something as that.

Speaker 2 (02:04:56):
Good, what's the age? You tell me more about the
age hoorification?

Speaker 18 (02:05:00):
The whole this is to do with the digital ID
which is basically to go with this cashleist society that
to see, there's something.

Speaker 2 (02:05:07):
In the UK about the case's idea because it gets
people don't like that a.

Speaker 20 (02:05:14):
I think.

Speaker 18 (02:05:14):
I think it's like over two and a half million
people within maybe three or four hours, two and a
half million people complained about it.

Speaker 3 (02:05:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (02:05:26):
Yeah, so I think he's going to get backed up
against the wall there, and to be honest, my personal
opinion on it was, if you put everybody digital, then
you're literally you can be basically in the old Chinese
social credit system. You know, they can lock your bank accounts. Yeah,
you can shut your cars down. They can if everything's digital,

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and you don't have control of it because they created it.
So if they're created, that means they ownly control of
whoever their tech giants are, and you literally hand over
all your what's the word, you have no control of
anything from that point onwards.

Speaker 10 (02:06:04):
And.

Speaker 2 (02:06:05):
The word it's For the last forty years, governments have
always talked about introducing an ID card and people hate it,
but they keep going back to introducing it. And I
kind of don't even know why they go on about
it because they've got all sorts of other things with
computer databases, you know, I don't think a card is
anything they need.

Speaker 18 (02:06:27):
Well, at the end of the day, if you're taking
people's choice away, because I mean Somemer said it was mandatory,
you know, and she won't be able to work unless
you get it, and I mean that's that's that's pretty
tyrannical sort of dictatorship stuff going on their EA.

Speaker 2 (02:06:44):
So, I mean, I guess he was saying that because
there's so much talk about the about refugees or coming
or people without citizenship, and they'd be I guess it's
just that was his way of kind of shutting the
door on that without sending them all back.

Speaker 15 (02:07:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (02:07:01):
But at the end of the day, if they're going
to come in and work illegally, they're not going to
be looking for a fatal idea, are they. Well, I mean,
if they if they're coming in with a criminal intent,
they're going to be doing under the table. They're not
going to be looking for any in any way, shape
or form. Anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:07:17):
I say, I can't work out the problem that they
meant to fact, apart from just getting everyone freaked out
because there was always people seeing it. There's been some
sort of biblical thing that you know that was in
the Bible that yeh everyone, haven't you know all that
before the incident. Eveyone was going about the number of
the beast and barcodes and stuff, weren't they. That was
almost like the original conspiracy theory.

Speaker 18 (02:07:36):
Well, that's basically the prophecy of the Bible markers the revelations.

Speaker 2 (02:07:41):
Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, that's what people always
got freaked out by.

Speaker 18 (02:07:45):
Yeah, well what literally is because I've looked at the
end of the Bible with that's concerned. Not not that
I've really got into the bubble, but I understand where
that where they're coming from with thros consent. But like
I said, if it's more about he who creates owns
and if you don't own it, let means you don't
control it. And art is the new oil. You might

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have heard that term before.

Speaker 2 (02:08:09):
I haven't, but I can understand what you mean yet.

Speaker 18 (02:08:12):
Yeah. So I mean like Chump Chump Chump did a
big one trillion dollar deal over in Saudi Arabia as
far as AI and AI centers and Larry Allison from
Oracle's five hundred billion dollar deal with the States. There's
only a couple of days. And as far as it's
all this digital infrastructure and stuff going on, and look,

(02:08:34):
this is all this stuff just being built and rolled out,
and there's you know, we're just digital governments and all
sorts of crazy buddy things going on that and if
you look all this sort of stuff up, I mean,
if even if you look at digital government New Zealand
there's he's the stuff about it. Nobody knows about you know,
who wants a digital government or rather have like a

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living man and woman.

Speaker 2 (02:08:57):
To be honest, most people are probably too busy to
worry about things like this because it does seem a
bit fringe to me. I think people have always kind
of got a bit conspiratorial about that sort of stuff.
But yeah, I don't know. I don't spend much time
worrying about it. I I know people love having cash,
they get freaked out that they can't use it. But
it seems as though, really when you look at it,
most people don't want to use it.

Speaker 18 (02:09:19):
Well I love to use a cash.

Speaker 2 (02:09:22):
Yeah, but what but why only because why would you?

Speaker 18 (02:09:27):
Well it's just like Evan and what.

Speaker 2 (02:09:28):
Wa But then you've got to fit your weekends, You've
got to make sure you've got it, You've got to
go to way. It's a hassle. Cashless is much cass.
This is much easier.

Speaker 18 (02:09:42):
Well yeah, look, I can see the benefit of both ways,
to be honest, Marcus. But like it's like like you're saying,
if you're our emergencies in all chans of crap, you know,
no good win, there's no pair.

Speaker 3 (02:09:56):
Destroy.

Speaker 8 (02:09:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:09:57):
This having the last emergency I mentioned, the next emergency
is going to be different. But they hard to predict,
aren't they.

Speaker 18 (02:10:03):
Well, yeah, well this is exactly right. And didn't didn't
you just say earlier about somewhere overseas that they're going
to keep cash.

Speaker 2 (02:10:12):
Yeah, and that's interesting too, and.

Speaker 18 (02:10:15):
If they did do that, it wouldn't be so fair.

Speaker 2 (02:10:18):
No, I agree. I mean, nice to talk, thank you,
twenty two away from twelve. Anything to add let's be
hearing from you. By the way, Lequahlasima did not get
the newcomer of the toy got that one, Marcus. We've
had two ram raids and audio were within a week.
Nothing stolen. Not sure if it's a crazy challenge online,
if it could be gang related due to the opening
them opening the same type of business. What's what was done?

(02:10:42):
What was done in audio?

Speaker 8 (02:10:43):
Well?

Speaker 2 (02:10:43):
I saw that was a guessie. I saw it, but
I didn't click on. I didn't realize our ram raids.
I just thought it was some driving gone gone a wole.
I think there was a ram raid. Oh yeah, I'm
seeing that now about a ramo. I was no audio

(02:11:09):
were pub audio was Surewood Gastro Bar looks like they've
done a ramorate in a Tourna swift, which seems we
did it. Another blunder in Amsterdam's payment system is citty
overpays twenty one million euros on invoices. There we go,
someone sent that through. That's a blunder. Oh, by the way,

(02:11:35):
here's something that this will be interested you christ Church people. Now,
I wish I'd found this story earlier, actually because I'm
curious in this it's considered a christ Church icon. And
now the one hundred and twenty two year old ice

(02:11:55):
cream Charlie is set to serve scoops once again, just
in time for summer, albeit with some new faces. After
being put up for sale in June and New Zealand,
the oldest ice cream shop has been snapped up by
new owners who are keen to make their mark and
take the business into a new era. Older than Christ

(02:12:15):
Church Cathedral, hang on, I don't think it's older than
christ Chach Cathedral. Chrostiach Cathedral is eighteen ninety. Hang on,
I think we might have a bit of a problem here.
I don't want to start fact checking stuff, but I'm

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sure unless it was or built between eighteen sixty four
and nineteen oh four year well a head of renovation,
a tower put up but anyway older than the completed
older than Chrostias Caedraled. The ice Cream Charlie was found
in nineteen ohight three by Sally Mahomet who Nose You Operators,
horse Draw an ice cream cart and Cathedral Square before
moving to Victoria Square. The business has been run by

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the mcaac family since twenty nineteen, but was put on
the market four months ago. So there we go. It's
back when the business on the market. It was then
longtime customers and fans of ice Cream Charlie, Gareth and
Sarah Eddie swooped in and scooped it up after seeing

(02:13:20):
the business advertised on Facebook. The Udies have a big
plan for ice Cream Charlie, although not too much will change.
They plan to expand the business. We need to basically
put in a shop and a processing plant all in one,
so they'll be focused out in Kayapoi, North Canterbury. It's
quite creamy tasting, so the recipe is not changing. The

(02:13:42):
top secret Villa ice cream will still be there, So
there we go. That is that it's twelve away from
e twelve away from twelve. Oh, that's a good story.
I have tried. It's good. I don't love it, but
it's good. Hello John, this is Marcus welcome. Hello evening.

Speaker 20 (02:14:03):
Yeah, Hello, he am Harry.

Speaker 15 (02:14:05):
I'm white.

Speaker 20 (02:14:06):
Gold doesn't have GSD.

Speaker 2 (02:14:08):
Yes, yeah, there's some goal. Yeah, I guess it is.
But I guess anything would be a currency if it's
got a value. But yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 19 (02:14:17):
Gold, it would be the original guarantee.

Speaker 2 (02:14:21):
Yeah, I guess it would.

Speaker 19 (02:14:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (02:14:24):
You go to the bank and Hunter backs you, and
you pay your money over.

Speaker 12 (02:14:28):
You don't pay.

Speaker 19 (02:14:29):
GSD on the transition.

Speaker 2 (02:14:31):
What about silver?

Speaker 20 (02:14:34):
I don't know the pair the commodity is the GSD
on it.

Speaker 2 (02:14:37):
I don't know. That's the thing I can't work out.
Because you can pay with that too, can't you.

Speaker 19 (02:14:42):
You should be able to do it.

Speaker 2 (02:14:43):
Okay, good information, John, thank you. Ten to twelve either
it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 15 (02:14:50):
Oh a Marcus, Yes, Hi, Yeah, I'm over. In entire one,
we have ID cards the size of a credit card,
and no nearly complains about it. As you get pulled
over by a policeman, the first thing he asked for
is your ID card. And it's pretty low crime over here, so.

Speaker 2 (02:15:13):
It's not that much different. It's not that much different
from a driver's license, is it.

Speaker 15 (02:15:21):
No, No, no, no, except if you don't in New Zealand,
if you don't have if you don't drive, you don't
really want to give a driver's license. So yeah, but anyway, yeah, yeah,
I think you get them when you're fifteen years old
over here. But the other thing is in Taiwan, the
government runs all the electricity generation and distribution, and we

(02:15:46):
get the cheap electricity, so we don't mind. And we
pay a dollar fifty five a litera or petrol and yeah,
the government does most of the petrol stations, and so
we don't mind about that either. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:16:03):
What's the point of the ID cards.

Speaker 15 (02:16:09):
Well, well, it's it's it's well, well, all adults have
to have one, and it's basically for for for for
for if you go into a government department that they'll
last to see it. If you if a policeman stops you,

(02:16:33):
you'll ask to see it, different things like that.

Speaker 2 (02:16:37):
Yeah, to use it when interacting with government departments, do.

Speaker 15 (02:16:41):
You, yes, you do, yes, you do.

Speaker 18 (02:16:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (02:16:45):
The other thing. The other thing is we have a
we have a secondary i D which is a national
health insurance card which is the size of a credit
card as well. And when when you go into any
doctor or dentist or hospital or medical business that they
have a little like a little f bos machine in

(02:17:06):
size thing and they slide your carden which has got
the little gold chip like the credit cards, and and
and all your all your medical history is accessible to
them on the computer screen, which is quite quite beneficial.

Speaker 2 (02:17:24):
Is a hussle if you lose them.

Speaker 15 (02:17:29):
No, no, I lost my ID card, I mean and
paid five or five or seven five dollars or seven
dollars fifty or something to get another one and got
it on the spot here, Yeah, just down the road
at the local household and household bureau.

Speaker 2 (02:17:52):
Hey, tell me something, tell me something. What's what's tourism
like in Taiwan tourism?

Speaker 15 (02:17:59):
Well, well, my mother and my mother and my brother
came over in February and they had a good time
for three weeks.

Speaker 21 (02:18:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (02:18:07):
Yeah, are there many?

Speaker 2 (02:18:08):
Is it big? Are there a lot of tourists and
accommodation for tourists?

Speaker 15 (02:18:13):
Uh, well, there's there's some very nice hotels around the
city and backpackers and yeah, yeah, you do see quite
a few expects over here, different people from different countries
turing around. Yeah. Yeah, he's a nice place.

Speaker 2 (02:18:31):
Yeah okay, nice to hear from you. I have, but
thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (02:18:35):
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