Who keeps colour? (2 October 2025)

Marcus talks the cost of maintaining New Zealand's giant sculptures, foot warts, and Jane Goodall.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Night's podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
A'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Greetings, Welcome Marcus till twelve. Right throughout the night, I
am here breaking news when that happens, your news, when
it happens for you. Also let me know when you've
got stuff going on. I feel there's topics tonight, and
I feel there's a lot to talk about. Although you're
never quite sure in this business. You're never quite sure
what's got people going out your cope. With the fourth
day of Daylight Savings, I think I've kind of got
my self reacclimatized. I'm excited about that. Feel free for

(00:35):
us start the whole chat. Eight hundred and eighty to
ten eighty. In Rakaia, someone alluded to me this year Star.
I forgot to mention it, but it's in the news today.
In Rakaiah there is a salmon. I presume it's fiberglass.
The council have approved three hundred thousand dollars for it
to be refurbished. Which I don't want to be overly

(01:07):
mean spirited, but what's with all these communities with their
icons that continually need you think that builds something? It
would be fit for it and it'd last. I'm thinking
it was a giant power shell in Riveton now that
cost a fortune to be rejuged up. There's a giant
wave in Kolak Bay that's always taking money to be refurbished.

(01:28):
And these things are poorly thought out and I think
probably fairly poorly built that they need constant maintenance. I
think the thing with good sculpture, if you'd call it
sculpture or good public art, is that doesn't continually need
rejuging up. It's seven thousand dollars fresh Burton, and get this,

(01:48):
it had that not so long ago. They'd done that
already two thousand and five. They's been one hundred and
twenty thousand giving it a refresh, and I presume it's
just a paint. I think there's just two fish in
the country. Is there is just one in Ricara and
one in Gore or are there other giant fish's? Aufrey
Will having giant things, but they cost you a fortune

(02:09):
to ongo the whole time. Anyway, I think probably the
thing of the past, the giant things, I think probably
small towns under insecure now. The only giant things I
really like is com Cromwell's giant fruit. But what I
will say about that if they haven't moved with the
times and they've got the wrong fruit because there are

(02:30):
no cherries and there are no grapes. It was painted recently,
but the price was moderate. But anyway, if you want to,
if you if you're someone that's around Rakhaya or Gore
with their fish, let me know, by the way, if
you're wondering the fruit on the giant fruit and Gore,
it's an apple, of pear, a peach, and maybe a nectarine,

(02:56):
a nectarene. That'd be the four. I would imagine, no cherries,
no grapes. I'd get rid of the pear and the
apple and put the cherry and the grapes up there.
That would just be me if I was trying to
make it relevant. So there we are. That's a situation
where the giant fruit of the giant fish. It seems
a lot to repaint it, though, doesn't it. You got
a comment on that we were things to be negative
about stuff, isn't it. Oh Well, you could ring up

(03:16):
and say, boy o boy, that fish has given us
a lot of happiness. I'm sure it hasn't. So you
do get in touch you on talking about that or
anything else tonight. There's other stuff happening. Jane Goodall has died. Now.
My first reaction when I saw that Jane Goodall had
died this morning, I thought, wow, I had no idea
she was still alive. I thought she'd died yonks Ago.

(03:42):
So you might have some recollections of Jane Goodall. I
got that name right. I keep getting that Goodule's the
shoe shop jingle in my head every time I say Goodules.
It's a Southern thing, goodulds for happy feet. But yes,
Jane Goodall has died at ninety one. She wrote books
and she saved primates. Ah. Now you might have and

(04:11):
I say this because people have done everything on the show.
You might have crossed paths with Jane Goodall. You might
have met her on one of her speaking circuits, or
you might have been in Africa tanzaniir. I think she

(04:35):
was and experienced some of the conservation works she did.
So'm very happy to talk about that, very very happy.
If you've got some sort of Jane Goodall experience you
want to talk about. She might have been inspiration to
You might have read her book at a young age
there was a Jane Goodall Barbie doll. There aren't many
people that are Barbie Doll made of them, so you

(04:58):
might want to. By the way, see that just said.
Dune's film is getting rave reviews and people saying they
are loving that, although I imagine the people that would
be seeing it other ones that I mean. What I'm
saying is, I'm sure it's for every good and I'm
going to seet myself, but I imagine the people and
there are some that don't feel the love for our
former promise. I guess they probably wouldn't be going to
see the movie. So yeah, so ah, I guess it's

(05:23):
I need to say about that? What do I need
to say? What are I ready to say? I any
meant to say? Well, yes, I'm sure the people that
would be critical of it wouldn't be the ones that
we're going to see the movie. I think I've got
that that one right. Anyway, do get in touch on talk.
So there we go. Got three things, the Giant Fish
and Jane Goodle and the dun film. There'll be more
stuff throughout the course of the evening, no doubt, because oh,
by the way, the Aurora is looking good for tonight

(05:45):
the Aurora Australis. I'll keep you posted on that and
we'll have webcams going to look at that. I've got
the Facebook page I go to. But it's been an
extremely good day down south with extremely good weather. So
that's the thing. It's come right for the school highways.

(06:07):
Right at the end, I look at the Aurorus Australia's
face Face group page now peak levels from ten pm
to one am. It's something called the K index. I
don't know much about it. I'm not an expert, but
it's quite high, so it could be good. It could
be something you want to look at, get in touch,

(06:28):
you want to be part of the show. My name
is Marcus Ntel twelve oh wait, one hundred and eighty
ten eighty nine nine two detext. It's all on anything
different you might I'm not fuss tonight Nextuly. I'm just
here for the I'm just here for the laughs. Basically,
if we get a laugh, it should be okay. In
this troubling world. I think people just want to be entertained.

(06:49):
Good evening, Calvin, this is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
So I saw it on Tuesday and it was so good,
and it was so good I went back to see
it for the second time yesterday.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
Wow, Now, what do.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
You just asked me? Because I talked over you?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
What do you say there, Calvin? I did pull it
because I didn't clip your button as well as I should.
So you're probably talking before you went on. Are you've
seen it twice? Were the many edit?

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yes, quite a few for that time of the afternoon.
Usually it's only half a dozen, but there was twenty
or thirty each time, you know, which is quite a
lot for Yeah, could you explain it.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
To me with this?

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Quite there was quite a lot behind the scenes that
you wouldn't have known was going on.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Is that right? That's right. It covers seven years, most
of us done by her husband Clark, and it's got
some film footage inet you know, in itself worth I
was seeing like what happened the outside Parliament buildings and

(07:52):
when COVID struck, you know, and say, the streets at
Auckland we're all empty and bits and pieces. But part
of the way through the movie I almost had tears
in my eyes. And I'm a grumpy old bugger really,
but what amazed me was how in reality she stuck
with the job for that whole period, because it certainly

(08:17):
affected her, you know, personally and that. But no, it's
worthwhile seeing even for the history part of it. And
when she has the beautiful baby, and the little toddler
grows up, you know, for a few years old by
the time the movie finishes.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yes, because we already saw the baby, did.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
We No, But you see the baby, brand new, brand
newborn baby. Fantastic the whole film. It's even said that.
There was one write up I remember reading it said
if you didn't happen to think much of Jasinda as
a person, that the documentary film is worthwhile seeing for itself.
The way it has done, it's just fantastic. But I've

(09:00):
always been a great lover of Dame Jacinda.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Anyway, Hey tell me something, Calvin twice, What was the
thinking there?

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Well, the reason is just as an aside. I went
to see My Mamea Here we Go Again fourteen times.
But it wasn't.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
A laughing matter.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
It was serious.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
I went, yeah, But that was because the first time
I saw that movie, I couldn't quite followed the different
characters because they were different, sort of to the original
first story. So I went week after week for nine
weeks and I went out to Tirava, then I drove
through to Tamuhu. Then they got it back again for

(09:42):
one week, so I went Monday and Friday. Then I
went over to other side of town. Had a single
long version. But getting back to Dame Ja Cinda. The
reason why I saw it is like some movies, when
I'm watching it, it seems so fantastic and I thought
I'd love to take all of that and again. And
also the beauty of it is you're aware possibly what's coming,

(10:04):
so you can be on the extra alert and endure
it more.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Will you go a third time?

Speaker 4 (10:09):
I possibly could next Tuesday. There is another movie you
want to see. It's a French movie, Holy Cow. But
I'll just see how things go. But I could sit
through for the third time enjoy it no problem. And
she it points out too several times that overseas countries
class to her as a rock star and even mentioned

(10:32):
when she's in America, a lot of people wanted to
either shake her hand or just touch her. And I'm
talking about famous people, politicians and all that they wanted
to meet her, and that it's it's an incredible movie.
I would recommend, even just for if your history. If
your knowledge of history is a little bit faded, now

(10:53):
go and see it just for that alone. It's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Would would Muma may be the song of be the
movie you've been to for the most times.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Probably. I did see another movie five times, a Dutch
film made in New Zealand called Bride Flight, and there
was a nine nine fifty three story. The story was
based on the Netherland woman coming to live in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
That of course, yes, yes.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Bride Flight. That was that's intriguing, that's worth what I
was saying.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Okay, oh, that's been really okay, Kelvin, that's a really
good start for us. I appreciate you coming through. Well,
there we go. Eighteen past eight goodness me oh wait,
ten eighty to eighty. Jane Goodall was real healthy right
to a death at ninety one, probably because of her
vegan lifestyle as she loved animals so much and eat them.
Jane was even on tour when she finally died. That

(11:49):
from Samantha brilliant Marcus. I think you need to keep
the big fish restored at Rikaia and maybe the only
seven left with the way numbers are dwindling. I don't
know much about the salmon numbers. Good evening, Marcus, how
are you? I would like some help to get rid

(12:10):
of plantail warts that are rough, small, small rough growths
under the feet and resaw to walk on. It's like
walking on stones. That sounds like a song there, it
doesn't walking on, walking on, walking on? Oh yeah, this
broken glass? Thank you, Caldly from Sonia. Anyone got they
suggestions about plan tail warts. I'd like to hear about that, Marcus.

(12:33):
I'm Thinny from the Big Apple and White Turmoil has
finally been repeated for the first time of my living memory.
The giant apple has looked so sad for my whole life,
and now I can finally drive by that. Whow it
finally got repeated. That's all though, So yeah, it was
really worth it. Nick from White Too. Why would there
be a big apple in White Tomo? And I'm sure

(12:55):
the giant carrot doesn't need repainting all the time, But
why is there a giant apple in my I can't
think about that. They don't do apples there, do they.
It should be a cave, should be a giant womb
that glows. Well, there's a big apple. Fidgets for seven
and a half meters tall. Oh, it's beside a big

(13:16):
apple cafe. It's got its own Wikipedia page. Looks fantastic.
Oh wasn't hear an orchard? I just don't think the
one told me was where you went for orchards getting
touch hit or twelve you won a text also to
feel free to come through. Yeah, brilliant, So Jane goodall
the durned film if you saw that twice, and giant things,

(13:41):
and the maintenance for small councils, because I think probably
good things. Well, I mean, I guess you make that
out of brass, you don't need to maintain them. I
always thought those things would be full forever. But I
guess the fiberglass, I guess fiberglass are a bit sketchy.
A breaking us where that happensbout the course the evening,
looking forward to what you've got to say, jump it through,
Oh eight hundred, you know the rest eight twenty four

(14:04):
to twenty four past eight, James, It's is welcome.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
Okay, Marcus. I don't usually called, but it just happened
that there's a couple of things on my mind that
are on the topic of society, but nothing to do
with today's news.

Speaker 7 (14:19):
If that's okay, perfect, perfect, Yeah, first thing.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
Is about intensive housing, and then the amount of available
car parks left on the residential street. And the second
is being I've noticed a lot of publication and then
knew it was about drug busting, and then it's it's
something that I seem not right to me. I just

(14:45):
want to get it out there. Maybe the drug run first.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
What do you think start with the housing rue first?

Speaker 6 (14:51):
Okay, I know the intensive housing has been going on
for quite a few years, particularly in Auckland. I mean,
I think people start realizing the problem was the neighbors,
wasn't intensive housing. The the amount of a car pas
that has left available on the residential street. Take Dannymow

(15:18):
for example. The worst of the road was designed in
the new suburbs like that anymore was terribly small. So
one everyone get off to work, and then the cars
parked on the left, inside and right hand side, and
then the gap in the middle just about able to

(15:38):
you know, to go through one row of cars that
if you come across with someone, you're gonna have to
you know, deep bagging and jiggle to make way for
the other one to pass. That kind of thing would
you agree.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
I haven't been to it anymore for a long time.
But if you say that that that's a problem.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
Yeah, So I have a view that maybe as a
time to change the policy from the council, you know,
urban planning side of things, and the building can santhasize
things to say, Okay, my pole solution. The rule is
you would have a proportional racial that's sort of a
compulsory racial that a developer needs to keep that. For example,

(16:18):
if you plan to build two bedroom house, you can't
have a racial of you must have one internal car
pack if you're building a two three bedroom house, and
then you would have a ratio of two car packs
for that you know three people in the three bedroom,
so in fourth and the four bedroom and five six bedrooms,

(16:40):
you would have that constant racial of making making sure
enough there is enough a internal car pax so that
your tenants or the people are the relatives you live with,
do not occupy so much public space on the parking.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
I guess what the council trying to do is disincendivize
car ownership because the city is clogged with cars. I
guess what's the what they're doing.

Speaker 6 (17:05):
But if there's no other rules of forcing us to
do that. That just simply failed in the last five
six years. And then we can see everywhere what was.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Your cover on the drugs? What was your cover on
the drugs?

Speaker 7 (17:16):
James, the drugs.

Speaker 6 (17:21):
Every time I hear the news of you know, using
custom or police, you know you're busting a lot of drugs,
and they always advertising the street value of how many
million dollars?

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Right?

Speaker 6 (17:37):
And then if you consider with other countries advertising rules,
this is this would be regarded as a sort of
indirect advertising for the for the drug guns. Would you agree, Well.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
The normally the normally those stories are normally when the
drugs have been caught, right, Yeah, and then.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
The advertising that this worth the street value for how
many million dollars? Yes, So, in in the angle that
are to like a young people or are people in
the desperate situations, they say, oh, that's a good idea.
I would rather risk it because I'm already in a
very bad situation. I would rather a risk it to
do some of the drugging at least help me out

(18:22):
with a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Okay, I think the value is always inflated. I think
they I think the police talk it up a bit
with a street value. I think the underground people always
have a bit of a laugh about that. It's always
kind of wildly overestimated. But look people might want to
comment on that. James, and thank you for It's very
generous of you to kick off with two well every
thought provoking topics and Calvin with the movie. Keep your
texts coming through too, tonight eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

(18:45):
Jane Goodall did it ninety two. He's a very good text. Marcus.
The salmon should be replaced with a dairy cow. The
mighty Rakaia Rivermouth has closed on occasions the last few
months because of over extraction of water. Boil the irrigation. Wow,
that's right, maybe they do need to g I see

(19:06):
there's fifteen thousand more cows. Is that right? Going into
the something at fifteen thousand, fifteen hundred saw a lot
of more cows going to the Canterbury region. I'll FicT
check that one oh eight hundred and eighty eight to
tenty and nineteen nine to text Marcus till twelve if
you want to come through, well, eighteen thousand more cows
in Canterbury. Goodness, Marcus and talking. Oh, we have a

(19:31):
giant wooden forestry man. He's varnished or sealed somehow and
doesn't need much maintenance. That's what you want. Goodness, have
a great night, Cares Marcus. Peter van Stralan started an
apple orchard at White Tumul when he dairy farm, then
open a fruit bedge shop, and final a restaurant called
the Big Apple. Lovely people been there a long time
now sixty years old. Get rid of warts for warts

(19:55):
placed the inside of a nana skin on it with
a plaster. Change daily into the water's gone. Sounds bizarre
but works regards Lindy x x X. The Big Apple
was the name of the hef Tourists love getting selfies
with it. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. Oh wait talent eighty eight,

(20:19):
nineteen nine. Text my name is Marcus. Welcome, Hitdle twelve.
She's all on bears, Marcus welcome. Can I mar a
good bears?

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Good God him Mike.

Speaker 8 (20:31):
My question or thought for the evening talking big things
is like love near Alexandra, and there's a big clock
on the on the hill there, and so timing that
in with daylight savings when they have to put the
clock forward or back do the big arms? Will the
big hands get moved?

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (20:52):
Or is there something else? Yes, it gets roll roll forward.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
I reckon that's gotta be the best. I don't know
who did it, the lines or the Ritias. I think
it's got to be the best giant playing of any
community in this That clock is fantastic.

Speaker 8 (21:14):
It must have had a read for quite some years
ago too, because it used to just be straight white
or sort of clear.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
I think they do put some different colors in it.

Speaker 9 (21:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I just love it and everyone no matter we are
in Alexander, you can see the time.

Speaker 7 (21:28):
You can you can do.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
But I think kids, I think kids hung off their
hands for a while and wrecked it. So it's got
to be quite strong.

Speaker 8 (21:36):
Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. Wonder I wonder what they did
the clock in the first place, because you having people
when it's running later or wonder what they were and
that was.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
I think the Jay it was the j C's No,
I don't know. If you walk up to it's a
great walk up to it too, by the way.

Speaker 8 (21:57):
Yeah, and I'll probably drive up the top and look
over the town.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Oh couldn't you do the walk.

Speaker 8 (22:03):
Oh, yeah know, I could watch other people watch out pole.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
To good on your bears. Why did they do the clock?
I don't know why they did the clock. Someone want
to talk about that.

Speaker 10 (22:15):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
I don't know who the jcs are, but love the giants.
I think it's my favorite thing in the country. The
giant clock. Ah, you must even must have heard of it.
Largest clock in the country. It's massive. And I talked
to people that were I talked to people that grew
up in Alexander, and they always say, well, it wasn't
like their parents could say, you know, while we're late home,

(22:37):
because everyone always knew the time. Yeah, the largest clock
in the country. It turned fifty years and twenty eighteen.
It's on Nobby's range. Got a bit heated when they
tried to put it in. Don't know why they did it.

(22:58):
They put a mock clock up there for six weeks
to gauge the response. Closs three thousand dollars and transition
to LED lighting in two thousand and six from one
hundred and fifty torch bulbs. I love it pretty much
runs itself. They say it's a brilliant story.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Alexandren on for two things. It's extreme weather in the
clock on the hill, but they do change it a
daylight savings. It's a great thing. Keep your text coming
through and your calls O. Eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty and nine nine to the text one of us, Marcus,
welcome Mark, Oh, a lot of texts. We have a

(23:47):
mess of orange need on Willington, but built literally to
survive in terrible weather. Although got struck by lightly, didn't it? Marcus?
There appears to be a large batman like search light
poured up at the sky in the Eden Park for
the past our unusual sight. I think they're having a
fashion show there are they?

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Did?

Speaker 3 (24:03):
I see they're having a fashion show and eating park?

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Is it for that?

Speaker 3 (24:06):
On the subject of bears, here's a joke to tell
the children. What do you call a beer in the rain?
A drizzly bear? Pierre van Strahalen from the Big Apple
has been an amazing asset to white tumol Marcus. When
the in person invented the clock, how do you know
what time it was? Well, that's a deep question from

(24:28):
celestial observations. I presume pet in touch you out to
be a part of my name as Marcus. Welcome Headle
twelve jump and what have you got Jane? I'm surprised
if we don't meet someone tonight that's met Jane Goodall
or being not I even know where did she have
to I'm not good on my primates.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Right?

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Are they gorillas or they rang a tangs?

Speaker 11 (24:57):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (24:57):
She's guerrillas in the mist? Doesn't she? So that would
be gorillas? And look, I don't know she. Did she
have a home? You could go and see them?

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (25:07):
And it was Diane Fossy was with the mists?

Speaker 11 (25:09):
Is it?

Speaker 12 (25:11):
Ah?

Speaker 3 (25:12):
She chimps someone will know you, Dian. I think I've
got Dian Fossey and Jane Goodall's switched in the head
and I get it confused with the shoe shop too
good ULDs for happy feet. Anyway, you might say something
about that. You might have experienced her in Africa. She

(25:32):
was one of those people that didn't get canceled. A
lot of these people that do great work then over
time they find out where they weren't. Actually it was
probably wasn't. She's sort of should she wasn't staying in
near Lane. But there seems to be no controversy with her.
She seems genuinely to be to be good the whole time.
There's been no like backlash that I can see. But yeah,

(25:53):
she just wasn't out for it, out for herself. A
lot of them become self mythologizers, don't they. But yes,
you want to talk about that too. Twenty two away
from nine hit or twelve breaking news when that happens.
I hope there is some tonight. Two people arrested at
the Cockstraight Fairy terminal and a meth operation. Wow, which
way were they going? Picked in? He was a seventy

(26:17):
year old with an ounce goodness, goodness with a woman,
a fifty year old woman. Oh well, there you go.
I suppose you can't really fly with it?

Speaker 5 (26:31):
Can you?

Speaker 12 (26:33):
My chick?

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Your bags? Twenty one away from nine If you want
to be part of the show, Oh wa eight hundred
and eighty taty and nineteen nine two de text giant
things that need maintenance. It's a lot three hundred thousand
for to paint a fish. But they're always there's always maintenance,
and it's always through the roof. I don't know who's
the contractors, other that it's doing it because you just
be painting fiberglass wouldn't you Jane Goodle and the RDUN movie.

(27:02):
The topic so far tonight, if you're to broaden those
out for on car parking and Donnie Moore for those
that don't know Donnie Morra, I do know Donnie Mora,
butok'd a boss that worked out there. We had a
party of his house that was right on the edge
of the town. I guess it's no longer at the
edge of the town. And we're talking probably almost as

(27:23):
far east as you can go on Auckland. I would
imagine any who twenty away from nine eighteen to nine
being this is Marcus welcome.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
Hey, there you go, Marcus good thank you.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Ben.

Speaker 13 (27:39):
A French keep time. They have got the the clock
and they've also got the tequila. They keep the they
keep the weight.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Oh they do too. They're like, yeah, okay.

Speaker 13 (27:53):
And but one thing that's got me beat men while
we're on this topic is who Who's who keeps color?
You know we've got reed, green, red, blue, and yellow.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
It's extremely good. We should do a podcast, Ben, because
these are people from banging on for hours about this.
Wouldn't it be some scientific wavelength they'd be there'd be
a there would be a particular number on a wavelength
something I don't know. There's probably scientific the.

Speaker 13 (28:27):
Question, razine, maybe where do they get color from? Where
do you get yellow from? What do you get a
whole bunch of tumoric? And and where do you get
read from?

Speaker 5 (28:38):
And blue?

Speaker 13 (28:39):
And and and that's that's what it's got me beat
and and.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
I'm just trying to think you're not thinking about where
the ingredients are for the color, but how they actually
can work out what is what?

Speaker 13 (28:55):
And this is well, I reckon it's it's hits that
come from looking back in the old days. With each
of the ink and and what not, they grind up something.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Then, oh, you grind up some very famous colors that
were quite rare, like purple I think was quite rare.
They had to import something from god knows where and
grind it up.

Speaker 13 (29:18):
Love to know, I'd love to know where does color
come from?

Speaker 5 (29:20):
You know?

Speaker 13 (29:22):
I know that that comes from when you mixed read
with that, we get that. That's great, But we just
read and blue and yellow come from.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
I'll find out been someone might know. Sixteen to nine
if you can answer being texted through or call it through.
Marcus regarding finding the time before clocks. By use of
a dipleteo scope and a clear sky, you could ascertain
local noon to plus and minus ten degrees sorry, plus
a minus ten seconds and one. Yes, there we go

(29:53):
more than ecurate enough of those days. Yes, Marcus. The
Seven Tales cafe and restaurant and Rakai next to the
Giant Salmon has currently been convined with supermarket. Maybe they
should foot the bill for the big fish up. Of
course they shod. It's disgusting. There was a good cafe.
I'm interested in the deplete discover. I like to see

(30:15):
what one of those looks like. It comes from the
Greek for double image viewer, a small telescope and a
prism that creates a double image of the sun when
the two images overlap, it local true noon. Be good
to teach kids about that, because it's quite good. It's

(30:36):
quite good science. That pete you gon Marcus, is another
rescue my pie.

Speaker 14 (30:45):
Are you no no, no, no no no. When you
were here and you plymouth at the beginning of the year,
you probably went across the tea were a bridge and
at the walkway there.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
I have done that I have done is that the
way I have done that?

Speaker 7 (30:58):
That?

Speaker 3 (30:58):
What do they call that the whale bridge was at
a different one that's the one.

Speaker 14 (31:02):
Yet we're the same thing here and it's all made
here a steal and they got to every ten years.
I don't know exactly when they got to paint it,
but it costs their hell a lot to paint there.
Engineering they should have galvanized it, so it's you're right
next to the seed and it's next he's only going
to chip it or something or whatever. You know, it's
pretty bullet proofer You think they would have think they

(31:24):
would have built that or like galvanized and pretty much
and they would have should have then recoded it, like
I said, But it's that's going to be an ongoing
cost at all their hand rails.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
And all that half billion, one and a half billion
to repeat. You probably want the prisoners to do it,
would you.

Speaker 14 (31:40):
Oh yeah, get them and do it as well keep
the rates down of course, But yeah, one the the
one they look and now get a little booklet here
one of the best small bridge on the world in
a few years ago, so as well now. And but
just going on about costs, if you do it, why
don't you do it right? You don't make it so

(32:00):
it's not going to have rust on it.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Oh, you'd powder cut it winded, maintenance become such. I
can't believe it's tren hasn't the paint of salmon.

Speaker 14 (32:09):
Oh no, the idea at the cost of the odays,
that's just the way it is. But you think they
would have done that right from day one, you know,
especially right next to the to the coastline near that's
one example. But if you're going to do something that
you got you build a house, you've got to it's
fin the so many meters from the sea, it's all.
They've all got to have stain and steel, screws and everything.

(32:29):
And that's the one. Then they should be doing the
same thing. You build, that sort of structure should be
made so it's it's maintenance three as possible. No, that
thing as maintenance free as possible. But you know, but
you do it as good as you can. That's all
on trying to say.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Is your plumbouth got a giant thing.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
You've got the.

Speaker 14 (32:45):
Old lean light, you know, the old you.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Know, the lean line, got the wine one.

Speaker 14 (32:52):
Yeah, the old the old light there, it's got that,
you know. But but yeah, that's that's one thing we've
got here in New Plymouth. But yeah, but that bridge
though it's just maybe ten or fifteen years, you've got
to got to paint there again. That's the hell of
a big cost to do that. Now they're not going
to change it.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
No next thing, they'll be tolding the bike away. Thank
you for that. They're peak twelve to nine. Jane Goodall,
anyone got any Jane Goodall comments? Cheers with the Chimps.
Diane Fossey was with the Gangu Tangs. Now Rose has
got different topics for the week. Mentioned it Monday, talk
to me Tuesday. Words on Wednesday, thoughts on Thursday, free

(33:31):
for all Friday. God, there we go. Someone's telling me
there's lawn bowls on TV. He's in the Bold's YouTube channel,
North Harbour Masters at nine forty am. I guess it's live.
I remember when I was growing up that lawn Bowls
was always on the TV. I kind of wonder if

(33:55):
we've lost our love of lawn bowls because for a
while there you'd know the names of the skips of
the big teams. But these days another last time I
saw I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe how I
couldn't believe how poorly they're all dressed well cheap as creepers.
Looks like casual Friday AnyWho eleven away from nine. So

(34:21):
there's also Joy Adamson. There's three of the African conservationists
that were European. I guess Joe Adamson. You always see
her in photos with her husband smoking a pipe looking
like Roger Whittaker in the bottom part of a Safari suit.
There must have been Jane Goodall she was chimps dying.
Fossy she was guerrillas. And Joy Adamson she was Born Free,

(34:44):
she was Lions. I think that's the way it all works.
I think there's movies about most of them. Was they
like tear jerkers in the seventies seem to remember her
in the Lions ELSA. Was that a film? If I
I mentioned that was Born Free of film? I think
you had a song and it did, born Free, Born Free,

(35:04):
just only just exissing the dark pais of my mind
seeing Born Free, Born Free. We got that one right.
It was quite good, wasn't it. Yeah? So and I yeah,
and there must have been I don't know about Diane Fossy.

(35:25):
If there was a movie about here, I'm not too
sure about that anyway, I've done bad with ad. Sorry
they're all at this end of the hour. It's my
apologies for that. So it seems about Eddie at the end.
That's entirely my fault. Oh that's very interesting. There's someone's
texted it to great text too. There has been a
there wasn't a movie about Jane Goodall, but she did

(35:46):
feature in a Simpsons episode when she was a diamond smuggler,
so very good. Yes, Diane Fossy was Gorilla's not a rangutans.
Jane Goodall was a diamond smuggler on episode of The Simpsons.
Galvanided steel, corrodes quicker and salt them bright steel. That's
why mooring Jan's aren't galvanized. Matt Monroe sang Born free
amazing Dectari client Clarence Across. I think that was a

(36:09):
documentary that one though great topics. Markus isn't the giant
thing that your plymouth has, Tuner Nucky. That's right. Mount
Tucky Topo has a giant trout too. I believe listing
and working Dion. The three natural pigments red, blue, and
yellow come from plants or minerals. Red is mainly from iron.
I think yellows from seffron turmeric, and blue is from
or in some plants. Colin Marcus, what's happening that?

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Born Free?

Speaker 15 (36:38):
Was a real clear jerk on it?

Speaker 3 (36:40):
You know, did els die?

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (36:44):
What happened? Did else of the lion die?

Speaker 2 (36:49):
No?

Speaker 15 (36:50):
Well, she's not that I can remember. She was, she
was sit Free. They went back to see her and
she had.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
Ended up with.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
She was she heard and I heard a pride, a pride, yeah.

Speaker 15 (37:06):
Mother and all that sort of stuff. But it's a
great movie. The one out of Africa was probably my
favorite movies.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Which One out of Africa?

Speaker 15 (37:14):
Out of Africa was Robert Richford?

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah, what about girrillas in the mist Oh Girls.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
Was great too?

Speaker 15 (37:22):
Yeah, you know, they were all good stuff.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
What about what about what about an?

Speaker 15 (37:30):
Don't even start me? I cannot believe that people still go, oh,
you're such a wonderful.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Person, Colin, Robert, did you go to the movie?

Speaker 15 (37:42):
I think I sent your text I'd rather go.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah, Okay, now I was talking about further gone to
the movie, not for people that. Yeah, that was what's
curious about. But clearly haven't gone. I've had to reappraise
the first movie. I think the first movie I saw
was Born Free. I think when I've fallen asleep in it,
I thought it was tisity big. But I have very
strong memories of Born Free, Born Yeah wow, and all

(38:06):
that women in Africa. Things all about muddled in my mind.
There's Dian Fossey, there's the Gorillas, there's Jane Goodall, and
there's Born Free. Anyway, we are talking about Born Free tonight,
Born Free, Yes, so there we go. That's and that

(38:28):
was her and our husbands. I remember it very well.
It wasn't a movie, it was a documentary. I can't think, well,
I might watch it tonight after work. That sounds sad,
doesn't it. And then of course there was that amazing story.
I remember that story when the Internet first started. Remember this, okay, Dan,
you'll even be able to understand this with your your age.

(38:50):
When the internet first came out, No, not when the interest,
but when they could do videos on the internet and
they went viral. One of the first videos that went viral,
This is why am I saying viral like that was
about the couple of hair dresses in London and the seventies,
the late sixties that brought a lion from Herod to
remember that, and then took it back and released it,

(39:12):
and then they went down a fantastic fashion. I even
brought a book about it. I was quite taken by
The whole story was remarkable. I think the line was
called Marcus Too, which even made it even better. And
then we met to Africa and the line recognized them.
I don't want this happening in London in the late sixties,
sort of driving an e type jag and adopting lions

(39:32):
from Herods. It's bizarre, Geff, this is Marcus Welcome.

Speaker 10 (39:37):
Yeah. But the Marcus A movie that I went to
see was very moving. It was called Gorollas in the Mist. Yes,
it was that lady who went to Africa there and
her object was to stop all us poaching because what
they were doing was and it was true, they were

(40:00):
cutting the hands off the Grollas and sending them back
as souvenirs. It was very sad because it was based
on a true story. And the poachers came into the
hut one night and killed her.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yeah, Diane Fussy died, was that sort? So she was killed,
I killed by a blow to the head from a MASHITTI.

Speaker 10 (40:33):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, they went in there and killed
him with with a machete. But the work she did
was absolutely fantastic. She stopped a lot of poaching and
for her to be able to mingle with his great
big beasts what must have been pretty scary for first,

(40:57):
especially a big male gorilla who could have killed her
anytime he wanted to. But but he didn't. He she
just seemed to move on with them and the trust
through and then she was stopping this poaching from going on,

(41:18):
and and she saved a lot of gorollas there.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
I think too. Yeah, and I think gorillas. People love
to trick and see the gorillas. Now it's become something
that's quite thought after to go and do, isn't it?
People like premp for days to go and see them,
and is it Rwanda?

Speaker 16 (41:37):
Yeah, you should do You should do that.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
You should do that, Jeff. Maybe they weren't likely, Maybe
they will, Maybe they that might be your tribe. You
might be like that. You die and fossy of food
for thoughting it. Bertie, this is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 17 (41:58):
Hi Marcus. I've got the Born Frame movie on DVD.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Wow, I'm just and I'm trying to think. I'm trying
to think. Hang on, there's a lot going on my head.
I think. Now you've still got a DVD player? Yeah, okay, yeah,
because you probably originally had on VHS, did you? Or
Super eight?

Speaker 17 (42:17):
Well, i'll tell you what I do second hand shots. Yea,
And one day in Devonport, it's about six weeks ago
from Wayhockey Island. I found it and I've always always
wanted to watch it again because I watched it when

(42:38):
I was a kid and I just loved it. And
I found it on DVD.

Speaker 18 (42:43):
Wow, I couldn't believe my luck because I remember.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
It's quite it's quite beautiful tones the movie too. It's
beautiful colors.

Speaker 11 (42:49):
Isn't it.

Speaker 17 (42:50):
Yeah, And so it's gotten here when game Ward and Jordan, George, Adamson, Bill,
Travis and Brackets is forced to kill a menacing lion,
and lion is he and his wife Joy and Brad
it's Virginny and McKenna adopt these three cubs. So that's
how it begins. Yeah, I don't think it's got a

(43:15):
year on it, but wow, it must be. It must
be quite a hole. Now I'm not I'm not young anymore.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
No, I don't tend to ask callers their age, But
are you in that age where you would have seen
it first time? Round?

Speaker 17 (43:33):
Yep? Hey, so oh it's nineteen seventy two on.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
This okay, because it seems on the seventies there were
a lot of light. There was a lot of movies
about otters and lines and seagulls. It was all the rage,
wasn't it. Everything seemed to be about nature.

Speaker 17 (43:47):
Yeah, but I don't know. I just I couldn't believe
my luck when I found it. I haven't watched it yet.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Haven't you. I'm watching it now on the internet.

Speaker 17 (43:57):
Oh yeah, why are you talking to me?

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah? Well, you got a multitask these days. Otherwise otherwise
the job would kill you. Yeah, and I am actually,
but it's cut to edgal what.

Speaker 17 (44:08):
And you're a man and you're multi tasker.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
That's Marcus, the multitasker they call me. No, I'm just
looking at the as you mentioned I just said about
the colors. I just want to look because, yeah, she's great.
She's sort of in a high job preparent with sort
of an army blouse on the top. It's great fashion.

Speaker 17 (44:26):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I didn't wait to say it.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Have you got a DV Why are you waiting? Why
are you watching it now?

Speaker 17 (44:32):
Well, well, because we haven't been at home, we've been
pet sitting and we don't have a normal TV. So
we watch. We watched DVDs and we get no ads
and we can watch what we want.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Yeah, wow, what are your great dv.

Speaker 17 (44:47):
What's it?

Speaker 2 (44:48):
What are you?

Speaker 3 (44:48):
What have been your great recent DVD discoveries?

Speaker 16 (44:51):
Oh?

Speaker 17 (44:52):
Well that and also there was a New Zealand crime
one that was really good, New Zealand Detectives. That was
we watched it twice, like what's it called All the
Mystery Murders and Crimes in New Zealand? And I'll tell

(45:12):
you another one I watched on Denniston.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
I love Denniston, so do I. I love Denniston.

Speaker 12 (45:21):
Is it called DVD on it?

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Is it called Mining in the Mist or something?

Speaker 10 (45:25):
Is it?

Speaker 17 (45:27):
It's called Eighth Wonder of the Industrial World?

Speaker 3 (45:32):
I flipper love Denniston, so do I.

Speaker 17 (45:36):
And so the other one was New Zealand Detectives and
it was in Pursuit of the Truth and that was
really really good. And another one we've watched It's a
bit dead that. Oh, we've got one.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
On you, Mark, I don't want talk about I feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 17 (45:53):
Yeah, of the rails, I love story.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
We've got that one that's pretty good.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
Yep.

Speaker 17 (45:59):
And the next best one we watched. It's called Piri
Point and it's a bit out. It's a true story
and it's about a guy that became the best hangman
and he had to hang people.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
That sounds cheery in New Zealand.

Speaker 17 (46:22):
You asked me which ones we've seen?

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Is it New Zealand?

Speaker 17 (46:27):
I think it's America. And because he gave it up,
he wanted to stop doing it after he had to
hang his best friend because he killed his a woman
that he couldn't have. She had an affear and he
had to but he became the fastest hangman. So by

(46:52):
the time they were ready to go and the the
time that was over, he got the fastest time.

Speaker 6 (46:58):
Can you believe that?

Speaker 5 (47:00):
No, I can't.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
Was it was hanging This was before the electric chair?

Speaker 17 (47:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. And it's quite an unusual name.
So p I E Double r E Point, prai poia Repoint. Yeah,
it was actually a good movie to watch, but it

(47:25):
was quite sad and it was Yeah, I know, it's
based on a true story. But yeah, it was that.
So that's my top four.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Okay, will you get back to us what you watch
Born Friendly us know what it because it's every good CinemaScope.
I'm watching it now, tremendous eighteen past nine, eight hundred
and eighty ten, eighty nineteen past nine lines now, fef
we're trying to get through. There's now a chance your
opportunity to talk on here is Okay, that's happening. We're
talking about the gorillas in the midst and the chimpanzees.

(48:00):
We're talking Diane Fosse, Joey Adamson, and Jane goodle To.
We're on about tonight for all. Very interesting actually, but yes,
this seemed to be a one of those movies, sort
of sad movies with animal animals dying in the seventies
with a Ring of Bright Water. Do you remember that
one with the Otters. It's one of those early movies
used to go and see in those days, Marcus. I

(48:24):
have three books written by Joy Adamson about her time
with Elsa, Born Free, Living Free, and Forever Free. Also
the story of George Adamson good bo Wan, a game,
which is a good read. An old work colleague of
mine was killed by guerrillas the AK forty seven caring
type while treky to see the guerrillas in the midst
He was of ret stubborn, older welsh Man who would
have been the most difficult hostage in the world. Douglas

(48:46):
Kerr was a long time ago. I can't find a
web reference. Tod Yes, now I remember that happening. I
think there was a it was a young est in
a woman killed in that as well. Wasn't there I
might have got my two stories conflated. I think that
was the situation. The lions story of the line from
Harold's was amazing. Made me cry. I think his name

(49:06):
was Christian. That's right, Christian the Lion. He remembered them
after they released him. That's right. Wow. Marcus hoff Roading
very awkward to watch. No surprises there anyway, Do come

(49:27):
through if you want to talk about these movies and
anything else you want to talk about to night. Actually,
someone's got warts on the feet and wants to get
rid of those. Marcus. I couldn't watch any of the
animal movies where I was a child too upsetting. Still can't.
Marcus in a prison cell interview after Adamson's death, Paul

(49:48):
Eke admitted to stabbing her. She was cruel to her
black workers, often not paying them all on Google Marcus
I traveled from Uganda to Cape Town on an overland
truck with Ozzie's Kiwis, Canadians and British. That was twenty
five years ago. Part of the trip was tramping in
for six hours to see them and gorillas in the
mists in Uganda now only took small groups of six.

(50:11):
Early in the morning we were surrounded by sixteen armed
guards to protect us from hostages, fearing we may be killed.
Was a trip of a lifetime and experience I'll never forget. Cheers,
Meghan Marc's. I tripped to the gorillas in August and credible.
They have real well looked after. Only one group is
now to see them each day for a maximum of

(50:32):
one hour. After each visit, the track is stay with
them until they find their new nests. They are then
checked over and made sure they are all well before
we left for the night. The guides are very respectful
to them. Had an amazing experience. Would recommend it to
everyone anyone. I've never felt the drawer of the gorillas

(50:53):
or their rangutans rather their rangutans. I think are they were?
They both probably so I don't know why I said that.
I've never it's just not something that I've thought, Okay,
that's something that's something I've always want to do. I've
never really felt that I wanted to go to Africa either.
But you know, it's trouble with travel. You don't know
what it's going to be like till you're there. I mean,

(51:14):
some of the most surprising places are the ones probably thought, well,
that's not for me. So lines free if you want
to partake here til twelve. MICUs is the name welcome.
So we're talking about Jane Goodall and Joy Adamson and
Diane Fossey. I think she was the one that got curled,

(51:36):
wasn't she? And then that's right, and she hadn't treated
to do work as well. All on the internet, as
they say, all on Google. Thank you Tom. And someone's
texted me and thanked me for reading out the text.
It would be the first time ever that's anyone thank
me for reading out the text. So there you go.

(51:57):
Long way that lasts oh a hundred and eight Teddy
and nineteen nine tow to text, come through if you
want to talk about these topics, certainly in the mood
for it. Wow. Meanwhile in America, in Tennessee, they're going

(52:22):
to execute their only female death throw inmate. I don't
know if it's going to happen tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Anyway, twenty five past nine. If you want to be
part of the show, if there's something else you want
to talk about, feel free to come through. So, yeah,
it's hear from you. If you've got anything to say,
there's something else you want to mention, that'd be good
to hear from you about that. Also, Oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty and nine to nine two to text,
looking forward to what you want to say. Twenty five

(52:57):
past nine, nine twenty eight people, if you want to
come through, we are talking about all those movies. Also
talk about the giant salmon at ricar that's gonna cost
three undred thousand dollars to repaint. Goodness, because I imagine
those things are fun when you first get them to

(53:18):
put your town on the map. But after a while,
I think they probably become a bit of a millstone
around your neck. And if you actually love them, I've
got to say that there's a giant trout and gore
which is a tremendous looking thing. And they never seem
to repaint that, but seems to it seems to be
a bit of kind of a fish. But yes, I
don't know if they repaint the carrot from time to time.

(53:39):
I don't know anything about that. But do come through
if you want to talk. If there's something else you
want to mention. Tonight also too, twenty nine past. Why
have your text about the big apple? Oh, there's a
long time ago. I see that now. I wait one
hundred eighty ten eighty anything goes hit TI twelve o'clock tonight.
We'll get breaking news when that happens in the meantime.

(54:04):
And what's on the feet? How to get rid of those?
Not for me for a texter, very painful to what
I can imagine, very painful to walk on. So, yes,
you want to say something about that is good? And
you might have been to see the orangutangs. No, always
not good with the primates, the gorillas. I think they're

(54:29):
the mountain back gorillas. Are they? Let's be hearing from
you as I say, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty
and nine to nine to text. Do come through and
this is Marcus.

Speaker 16 (54:43):
Welcome pay Marcus.

Speaker 17 (54:46):
Just a quick short one.

Speaker 19 (54:48):
What's on the feet marmite?

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Oh there, of course, of course. It's a very practical
thing to do.

Speaker 19 (54:55):
Yeah, and it works really Yeah, we've used it on
people's dogs other animals.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Yeah, it makes sense. Do you know why it works?

Speaker 19 (55:05):
No, well I'm not sure, but I think it might
be the NIAT and that's in it.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Yep, they'll do it.

Speaker 19 (55:13):
Yeah, yes, not vig night, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
I just put it on, do you and leave it?

Speaker 19 (55:20):
You just put it on and leave it.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Okay, nice to hear, thanks, Anne Alistair. What's on the feet?

Speaker 5 (55:27):
Yep?

Speaker 11 (55:28):
Marks, Yes, I've had that problem. I think the correct
name is a veruka, which is the same thing. Now,
there are devils are things to get rid of, but
there's a very simple easy way to get rid of them.
And what you need is some elasta plass bandage and
a small pottle of vasiline. And what you do is

(55:50):
you scrub your feet. You put a little bit of vaziline,
rub it onto the varuka or wart, and then cover
it over with some elastoplast. So the essential thing what
you've got to do is eliminate all contact with the air,
keep them free from there so they can't breathe. And
that's the only way you'll get rid of them. And

(56:12):
you have to keep replacing the little, you know, sticky
patches from time to time, every every it's not every day,
every second or third day. But I've tried all these
other things that you buy from the chemist. Didn't work
for me that that will get rid of them in
fairly short order. So yeah, if that person wants to know,
try it.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
And what's what's the stuff again you put on them?

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Vassilene? Okay, okay, I.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Like you said, vain, I like that, but vesina, that's
the same stuff in it.

Speaker 11 (56:42):
Yeah, yep, yep, yep. That and a fresh dressing and
probably every well it's not every day, every second or
third day. You have to keep refreshing them there, but
exclude them from the air, and you rub vasoline on
so the brook or walk can't breathe and then tape
over it over the top. And I had a real
problem with that years ago. I had a whole heap

(57:02):
of them and you picked them up to see. I
used to swim regularly at the vocal pool days a week,
and when you're showering in a hot shower, you should
really be wearing things like flip flops or things like
that to keep your feet off because that's how that's
how it sort of spread. You pick it up from
other people who've got them. And because it's a viral thing,

(57:22):
you see.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Would crocs be good?

Speaker 11 (57:26):
Oh yeah, crocs as well. Other people that go to
the pool they either wear crocs or thongs while they're
in the shower. And I was a wee bit slow
to learn, but yeah, that's the golden secret.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Well I think at school camp you always wore gendles.

Speaker 11 (57:39):
Yes, yeah, yeah, So there you go. If that person
tries that, I'll tell you what, they'll be very pleased to.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
Try it.

Speaker 11 (57:47):
And it works, trust me.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Okay the ruka from lettin meaning small hill?

Speaker 5 (57:53):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Is that right? Marcus twenty four away from ten o'clock
Marcus till twelve?

Speaker 20 (58:00):
Ellen disc How are you doing, Marcus?

Speaker 12 (58:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Good good, I've feeling good without without what's on the feats,
I feel quite blessed.

Speaker 20 (58:08):
Well I would, sorry, there's something to avoid.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
Oh yeah, no, clearly.

Speaker 20 (58:13):
There are type one of the herpes variety and as
your previous callers have already said. They are notorious in
and around institutions, which is why when you go to
prison you take a pair of Jendles with it. But
they're also found another institutions where people share the shower,

(58:33):
and don't you know, if you have one person with them,
they can spread like wildfire through the population.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Do you in prison do your shower in jendles?

Speaker 20 (58:45):
Well, you'd be wise if you did.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Yeah, fair enough. You get good advice on the show,
don't you.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (58:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (58:50):
The virus gets into the concrete, it gets into the wood,
the duckboards that are in the showers or whatever they
use nowadays, and then they spread, They go through the population.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
How do you get rid of them?

Speaker 20 (59:03):
I wouldn't offer any advice. I think you would if
you were in prison tonight listening to this, you'd go
and see the nurse.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Oh, I see see. Your advice is not to get them.

Speaker 20 (59:12):
The best advice is to avoid them if you can.
If you get them, you go and report to your
local medical professional, get some help.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
So what did you call? You just called to say
how you get them?

Speaker 5 (59:23):
Right?

Speaker 20 (59:25):
Well, yes, I've had some experience of it, so I
know how you catch them all right, Yeah, okay, oh.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
I see, I see what you're saying, your prison guard.

Speaker 20 (59:34):
No, no, I was a probation office for a time.
Understand the work Salvation Army where we had bigger institutions
with lots of people in them.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Brilliant. Appreciate that out and thank you. Twenty four to ten. Yes,
so mind the institution was Queen Mary Hospital. I don't
know if we got varukas there, well, I don't know
if we wore generals or not. Actually, what I think
with what this is just me talking right, what I

(01:00:03):
think with warts and verukas. There are a lot of
different cures marmite or side of vine girl or YadA YadA. Yeah,
but I think a lot of them often will just
go away on their own accord. So therefore people accredit
them going away with their cure. But a lot of

(01:00:24):
them just go away anyway. I'm not saying all of
them will go I'm not saying they're not painful, but
there we go, Marcus. One treatment of liquid nitrogen is all.
It takes the kilor of arruka painful for a few hours,
then forget about it. GP or podiatrist will do it.
Kate wats anywhere on your body will die if you
cover them, don't let them breathe. My nurse told me

(01:00:45):
to use duct tape. Take the salmon to a car
pain to be sure they could do something south of
twenty k, even a high gloss black for ten k. Marcus,
I'm coming sixty five. I remember my mother taking me
to the movie Born raises the hair on my back
with such an amazing experience at my young age vere
fond memories of the moon. My great mother did us

(01:01:07):
all for children, and all are great my mother, all
my great grandmother did for us as a children, many things. Andy,
my cousin, won't eat venison or rabbit because she watched
Bamian Watership down as a kid. Yet she watched Skippy
the Kangaroo, but she still munched on barbecue kangaroo when

(01:01:28):
she was in Sydney last twenty two to ten, nineteen
to ten. Good evening, people, how are you going? So
we're talking about the giant Samina racar which is couting
three one thousand dollars story paint. I don't think about
these with the thing because you can see the logo.
What we need to giant animal. Well, what they're doing
is leaving a legacy, a costly legacy. But the clock

(01:01:53):
and Alexandra, you won't hear a bad word from me.
I love it. I'll go up to that clock three
times a year. Fantastic. I'm not sure about the giant
Hollywood letters above Mosgule that say Moscule. I'm not sure
about that one. But you always liked sort of a
town that gets something right when they do one of those.
The j c didn't. What happened to the j c's

(01:02:14):
They did good stuff. So we're talking about There was
some talk about Jane Goodall, who has died. I don't
know she was still alive, So that has been a
big head pivot for me, thinking, oh gosh, she's still
live or she's just died. So she was chimpanzees. Diane
Fosse was guerrillas. I don't think anyone saved the Orangutangs

(01:02:37):
because I don't think they needed saving, did they? There
are different kettle of fish. I think they're Asian, the
Asian great ape. Well, they're pretty much humans, ninety six
point four percent humans. They're going a great faces, they
haven't they The orang the orangutang little baby orangutangs with
their tongues poked out, Borneo and Samartra. I don't know

(01:02:57):
if you can go look at them in the mist,
I don't know how many left, actually how many you're left,
probably depressing to look at it. I think that's why
on the palm kernel, because we're taking away their habitat.
It's all coming back to me now.

Speaker 8 (01:03:15):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
So we are talking about the primates and having to
if you've been to see Africa to see the gorillas,
that's of interest to me. And the giant things that
you paint, the giant things that people's towns, like a
giant fish or a giant doughnut or a giant carrot.
Think and by the way, in Australia, I think most

(01:03:40):
of those giant things were made with concrete, which are a
lot easier and a lot easy to maintain. You just
give the lick of paint. When there's some talk about
warts on feet, warts on feet something I've never had,
but that's I'm not bragging. I'm not wart bragging, but
I just I haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
I can't empathize as much as i'd like to. Gareth
Good Evening, this is Marcus welcome, Oh Marcus evening, good
Gareth war Free.

Speaker 7 (01:04:08):
She last time I talked to you, I was driving
up the Devil's staircase. I'm back on there again, actually
really yeah, but it's been a while.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
I love the Devil's Stacks.

Speaker 7 (01:04:19):
Long time list a second time caller.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
What a great name for a place, though, the Devil's Stairs.
What are the great names for road?

Speaker 11 (01:04:24):
There is?

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Isn't it the devil? Heating south or North.

Speaker 7 (01:04:28):
Northfolk to Queenstown. Just been at the Ilt Stadium, Southland
this afternoon and this morning fixing some feet.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
What sort of feet? Oh you're talking about? Yes, I
remember talked to you before. You're a you're a foot person.

Speaker 7 (01:04:44):
I'm still hoping you need to turn up to the
shoe clinic one day for that foot check. That might
be patient contgiteality, now, isn't it. That might be breaching
patient comedy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about exact.

Speaker 7 (01:04:53):
Yeah, what did you What do you want to know
about arucas? So I briefly caught.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
It someone well someone Actually, I better get this text
door right right because I rang about something that was
different and and I'll just get the text up and
it was about an hour and a half ago, and
then we've gone into varukas and we're in the realm
now of what was once called wives tales, which I
don't think we use as a word because it's sex.

(01:05:19):
I don't know what the modern equivalent of that is.
But I'm just going to try the actual text from
someone because only we've been talking about Orangutang's.

Speaker 12 (01:05:32):
Dan.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Can you find that text what the person had on
their foot?

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:05:37):
Eaby to give some free advice on a nine four?

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Yeah, no, fair enough, came through it eight point fifteen.
I want I'd like some help to get rid of
plantar warts. Just plantarmine, fat foot.

Speaker 7 (01:05:54):
It means the bottom of the foot, planter.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Okay, planter? So what would you do to get rid
of planter warts?

Speaker 7 (01:06:03):
Well, so yeah, no. Options one is a caustic approach.
So obviously some people have mentioned ways to soften the skin.
Often the pharmacy treatments tend to work. Well, we've got
to cover them up those you need tell us a
like acid the duo films quite a good good option,
but something just to paint on and then try and
slowly burn the skin, better soften it enough to get

(01:06:26):
rid of it to immune response and then we use
a microwave therapy, so we use non ionizing radiation to
zep them. So that's quite a flesh way of doing it,
but not everyone can afford that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
But is it like a wand.

Speaker 7 (01:06:41):
Yes, is it heats the tissue up to about fifty
degrees and then treats an immune response. But for most people,
dry us doesn't work. But the caustics, you know, the
topical medicines that you can get from the pharmacy, tend
to work quite well.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
And you've got to kick. Do they starve them as well?

Speaker 5 (01:06:57):
Do they?

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:06:59):
They People don't say that you're suffocated.

Speaker 5 (01:07:01):
You don't.

Speaker 7 (01:07:01):
You're just trying to damage the skin. So covering them
up just really means that the medicine stays on for longer.
But in terms of they live in water for about
giving so hours. So when people say they live in
the wood, where they live in the concrete, by that gentleman,
they really just live on the surface for a period
of time and moisture and then the skin itself from

(01:07:22):
walking over it sort of catches it. It's often the
brazed areas, you know, areas of the foot, so you
can walk over the surface in the shower, in the
swimming pool, you might catch it, you might not.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
So will they go away on their own accord?

Speaker 7 (01:07:38):
Yeah, they do say if they've been there for three months,
they're more likely to disappear that we have been there
for six not as much. In twelve months, not so much.
They can't hang around for a long time. But they
seem to also just spontaneous disappear via an immune response,
which you can't always cuculate when it's going to be
and tell.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
Us something with your microwave, Wand how much does that cost?
Not to you, but for a.

Speaker 7 (01:08:02):
Season for us? It's a turninal treatment, so it's turntal
is session. So that's pretty pretty expensive for some people.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Because you need you need more than one.

Speaker 7 (01:08:12):
Yeah, you know you probably need three monthly. But it's
probably is the most successful treatment around. It's about eighty
five ninety percent success, right, So it's it's it's it's
pretty high, whereas the topical seems around six fifty to
sixty percent.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Yeah, it's costing that much? Does it cost because it
is that per ward or if you've got four or
five that's the same price.

Speaker 7 (01:08:32):
Yeah, it's usually three you can what do you call it?
A subscription subscription model from the from the whole, the
wholesaleer's because no, what I'm saying is the no, what
I'm saying, No, what I'm saying is the the the
piece that we use only last fifteen minutes, so you
can true as many warts as you can in fifteen minutes.
They charges six They charges sixty dollars per the PCC,

(01:08:55):
so that's where the cost comes in. And then the
scenes about twenty grand. That it's a pretty expensive with
a kit.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
But is it painful.

Speaker 7 (01:09:02):
That's called swift. It's painful for two seconds and then
it goes away and you about five six times in
a row. So dry ice is obviously what's most common.
That it can be painful, but not always that's successful.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
Yeah, but drive safe, Gareth, love you to hear from
your twelve way from ten Rocky. This is Marcus.

Speaker 16 (01:09:24):
Welcome there, you going there, Mark has been a long
time there the yarn there. I'm just talking about the
old bloody back of my days in the cargo at
the rock Dold School here and let's go and we
becca them days. It was all sort of like yes
school stars and those terrible blooming things are all gonna

(01:09:46):
be bloody terrible. So what I used to do was
I actually burned them off of the with a soldiering iron.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
It's a great thing to do, Rick Rocky. We should
encourage that, No, I know, I know we shouldn't encourage it, ironic,
but anyway, yeah, wow, I know.

Speaker 16 (01:10:09):
Well what happened was I got into my probably twenty
I got into you know, I got twenty years of age,
and everything is his bloody waters are still on the
farm and everything is like that. And in this day,
I thought it myself. I've got my souldiering iron going,
and I puked. This cleaned my ward, and I said,
and it didn't hurt. And then I heard, so you're

(01:10:30):
dead right. It's actually breenon.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
And I remember, I remember as kids, you'd hassle other
kids with warts, wouldn't You'd call them warting and stuff.
That's right, you got brief for your warts.

Speaker 16 (01:10:40):
Dead right. But the silly thing about it was the
school sauce. So it was kind of school saws, wards
and school saws.

Speaker 5 (01:10:48):
It was all over ends.

Speaker 16 (01:10:50):
And now, Marcus, what was the school sauce about? You're
just sort of like your hands were just warty and bleedy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
Well, yeah, and they called them other names. I won't
repeat either. They called the mother for e racist names,
but I'm not going to.

Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
Go into Yeah, you know you did right dead.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
I don't know. I don't know if I don't know
what it was about.

Speaker 16 (01:11:09):
I mean I had them, Yes, I did write that
there was nothing to do with what you just said
then racism, It was nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:11:17):
It was all of us.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Yeah, but I don't know. I don't know, and I
don't know that kids have them as much these days.
Sitting here, I haven't known someone our children.

Speaker 16 (01:11:25):
No, did write none of my children or grandchildren. Yeah,
it's quite funny, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Really?

Speaker 16 (01:11:30):
No, but I just burnd it clean off of the
of the soldiering iron and never ever came back.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
How can you how can you have access to a
soldiering iron?

Speaker 16 (01:11:39):
Well in the Trader, I guess I'm a panel beater.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
And that you're a kid at the stage.

Speaker 7 (01:11:48):
Was what?

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Sorry, Marcus, Oh, this is when you're an adult, not
when you're a child. That's right, you do where did
you do your prenticeship?

Speaker 16 (01:11:58):
But motibile repeaters and Alexandra when cock Housels used to
be there. Yeah, And I started my apprenticeship in nineteen
eighty and back in them days a still hold. They
were selling brand new condors when they first come out,
and we used to put mud flaps on them, and
you're really.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Up for the build. Exciting times with the building of
the dam, and at all.

Speaker 16 (01:12:17):
I worked on that dam as soon as the princes
were prenticeship straight to the dam. From one hundred and
fifty dollars a week, from being just gotta got out
of a trade to four hundred and fifty dollars a
week up the Clyde Dam. I was just killing her.

Speaker 11 (01:12:30):
Did you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
Did you buy your car?

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Tell you what?

Speaker 16 (01:12:35):
I guess You've got no idea.

Speaker 13 (01:12:37):
I did everything.

Speaker 16 (01:12:40):
V eight motors when they was all the eight saying alcohol?

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
Where'd you? Where'd you drink? Rocky?

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
We were that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
We were the because old Cromwell would still be there
before they filled up the lake. We were a drinking hole.

Speaker 16 (01:12:54):
Well bec I go to the Middle Pub here in
Alexandra and the Bean to Go. Of course that's been
all you know. Because of the floods they got rid
of the Bean to Go and up and Crumbell. Unfortunately,
back of them old early days Cromwell and Alexander boys
didn't get on too well. But the Clyde dam exactly.
But the Clyde damn. We all going well because they

(01:13:16):
all worked together and things got healed.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Put it that way, Hockey.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Where was the Bendigo Pub?

Speaker 16 (01:13:24):
The bead to Go Pub was basically what we you
know where the middle pub is with the warehouses where
theses well, that was actually the bend to Go Pub
where the warehouses right down there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Now crime that is getting ready for a pub for
a weeh.

Speaker 16 (01:13:40):
My god, that that pub had been there. That was
one of the biggest, beautifullest the long term pub and
alex Centre target, to be honest, and they got rid
of it because we bit of water went down into
the what you callt the pantry down the bottom. Bloody shame.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
Even when they knocked that down, Rocky.

Speaker 16 (01:14:01):
My goodness, that was nineteen nineteen. I think it was
so not that we go down It was ninety ninety.
Tom gets away on this, Marcus. You know I'm sixty
one now, so you sort of get time gets away
on you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
You'd have been there for the last night, though, would
you before they closed it down.

Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
I'll tell what Marcus.

Speaker 16 (01:14:21):
I even had some carpet in the house because you
go help you out here and there that much there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
It's a good story, rocky life well lived. By the
sound of things. You write your book, Ruth, it's Marcus, welcome, Hi, Ruth.
Was that's the noise that your clock?

Speaker 18 (01:14:46):
Tablet?

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
What's your tablet?

Speaker 18 (01:14:49):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
Your tablet? Okay, what's you're talking about? Warts?

Speaker 10 (01:14:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:14:56):
So any warts, brokers, planter, warts, whatever you want to
call them. That's the biggest miracle have in New Zealand,
the treatment of them. Anyone can treat them with the
Pooh plant or any milkweed plant, any plant that gives

(01:15:17):
off that milky set.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
Well, that's set. Now what is that plant that?

Speaker 12 (01:15:20):
What is it you use?

Speaker 18 (01:15:24):
You use the milkweed, milk wereeed is more like the
group of plants. But Pooh is a really good example
where you take the flour buds off. When you pull
off the four bud, you nip them and it produces
a drop of milky set on on the bad and

(01:15:44):
also on the plant where you've removed it from, and
you paint that on the water and you keep doing
it with with the drops of milk from the buds.
Of the flours until the whole water.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
That's what we did. We did that and we use
and then you let it dry.

Speaker 18 (01:16:04):
When it's brown, you cover it with a plast. You
only have to do that two days a week for
two weeks and it will kill the.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
Wart and with the plant warts r I've only got
twenty seconds left.

Speaker 18 (01:16:18):
Yeah, you can actually see it killing or got a
question for you?

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
Is it the same because we used to use the
moth plant with those pods? Is it the same thing?

Speaker 18 (01:16:28):
It probably is. Yeah, anything that produces that multi set. Yeah,
leave it till it drives, turns brown, put a plaster
on it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
Brilliant Roth your legend. Seven past ten, Marcus till twelve?
How you're going? People? Welcome to the show. Eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty Loreene, It's Marcus, welcome, Hi and
hell are you good?

Speaker 7 (01:16:50):
Thank you?

Speaker 12 (01:16:51):
Yes?

Speaker 21 (01:16:52):
I just because you're talking about porn pree, it just
starts a memory. Do you remember.

Speaker 22 (01:16:59):
I don't know how old you are, but do you
remember Victor Walter?

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Yes?

Speaker 22 (01:17:05):
Yes, well so he was a kind up to a
pianist comedian.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
He was quite funny, very funny, very funny.

Speaker 22 (01:17:11):
Yeah, and one night he was telling us about, uh,
the way music's written and stuff, and he had his
whole orchestra in front of him, and he had the
music to Born Free in front of them, and they
all started playing Born Free, and then halfway through they
all stopped. Then they turned their music upside down and

(01:17:35):
they started playing it upside down, and it was Star Wars.
Really yeah, And you can actually find it online if
you go on there and put in Victor Borger star
Wars Born Free, and it actually brings up a video
of it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
I thought that I don't know much about I don't
know much about music, but could could it be? Could
Star Wars be Born Free upside down?

Speaker 21 (01:18:03):
If you sort of if you think of it, it's
like on Free.

Speaker 22 (01:18:09):
And then Star Wars is it is the same, but
it's you know, I mean, so upside down anyway, it's
just a fun fact.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
Oh it's incredible. It's blowing my mind.

Speaker 22 (01:18:26):
You can find online you can actually find the video
of their of their actual program and and just one
of a quick one was just that. When I was
a kid, if you've got a watch, your mother used
to buy it off you.

Speaker 18 (01:18:38):
Yeah, yeah, Oh I don't think it worked.

Speaker 12 (01:18:45):
I don't know it.

Speaker 22 (01:18:46):
Probably I don't.

Speaker 10 (01:18:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 16 (01:18:48):
I just remember that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Another would give your money and hopefully it would go away.

Speaker 22 (01:18:53):
Yeah, I don't know whether it had some kind of
mind thing. Maybe maybe it's good for your immune system.
I don't know.

Speaker 21 (01:18:58):
But and you used to rub a potato on it
as well.

Speaker 22 (01:19:04):
I don't know if there's.

Speaker 21 (01:19:05):
Something in the dew.

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
Well that woman said it was sella silicesid or something.
But that was someone to what the pedatres said, so
there might be I'll go look into that. Lauren Loreent,
thank you. Yeah, I'm just talking. I didn't won't want
to give that woman's short shrift before the news. I
think she's right about milkweed and warts or that what what?

Speaker 6 (01:19:22):
What?

Speaker 5 (01:19:22):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
What did I call it? I googled that one, that
other that other plant? What was that other damn plant?
I googled called? No, I can't find a search history
our moth plant. We used to use moth plant. I

(01:19:43):
don't know if moth plant and warts would work. But
you're all that SAP. I don't know what this what?

Speaker 6 (01:19:51):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
What material? The SAP is? It says a traditional mediciner
tree warts in South America and South Africa what is
that milky sap? It's a latex. They say it's a latex. Wow,

(01:20:19):
I'm pretty interested in this. It's a terrible looking plant,
all up power poles and things, and it's a native
range of Argentina and Brazil. It's a medicinal plant. The
stem yields tough, smooth fiber for textiles and the silky

(01:20:43):
down on the seeds of many uses. When cut, the
stem pods and leaves of moth plant exued a milky sap,
which can cause irritation to the skin. This latex is
used as treatment for warts in South Africa and South America,
and can also be used to induce vomiting. So there

(01:21:05):
you go. I'd use that was I like that woman's absoluteness.
It's a milky sap. I don't know what it's chemical structure.

Speaker 12 (01:21:22):
Is?

Speaker 10 (01:21:24):
There we go?

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
I thought they're very interesting and brought Oh, there's a
cat on the golf that's exciting. What golf? Am I
watching the durable now one of the oh, off it goes.
It's like a tabby. I wouldn't get near it looks
like it's wild. I look like a nice cat either.
What's this golf? I'm watching must Be on fifty Channel

(01:21:46):
fifty two. No, it looks almost like a wildcat. I
wouldn't touch it, mate, be up your leg, quick, quick, quick,
game's going to go on. Oh he's doing very well.
The guy might think he's a caddy, got no collar,
looks free wild.

Speaker 11 (01:22:08):
Any who.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Getting touch at about Warts and born free Marcus Warts.
When I was a kid, we used to put a
banana skin taped on them when I slept it up
for a few nights. We'll go black and die. Also,
I was just thinking about Bruce Russell. Was he on
air when he sadly died or just at work? Bruce Russell.

(01:22:34):
There's a lot of facts and figures about Bruce Russell.
Bruce Russell died and I've spent many times researching this.
On the Saturday night he did in my day, it
was a long weekend. It was Antic day week and
he came back on the Sunday to work Monday morning

(01:22:57):
and one of the producers thought he was asleep and
they went to him and he had he was deceased.
That's a situation. So he wasn't on here, but he
had done the shift before on the Saturday night, which
was in my day, so he was getting ready for
the Monday morning shift on Antic day. I've got that right,
haven't i? Dan he had read the news on Sunday afternoon, Yes,

(01:23:25):
and no doubt that he would have plenty to say
tonight because his favorite topics were Megan Markle, Jacinda r Dern,
and Greta Tumburg. So they seem to be a thing.
So yep, some would say ahead of his time. Maybe

(01:23:49):
it was great to hear alex pronounced Alexandra. Most people
from the area do, but not people from others seem
to call it Alexandra. Well was named after Alexandra was
named after I don't know if we're quite right there,

(01:24:11):
So I don't know what the correct pronunciation would be
named after Alexandra of Denmark. So how would you pronounce
Alexandra and Denmark would be Alexandra or Alexandra. It's a
very good question. Then I don't know the answer.

Speaker 23 (01:24:39):
Alexander. No, it's alexand Alexander. Alexandra has pronounced Alexandra. He came,
you're right, our leg Xan is in zany zany Zen Alexandra,
not zhon Simmits, but with a longer asn't father, Alexandra
no Ah, Yeah, it's hard to know looking at looking

(01:25:02):
at that, I got no idea how to pre outs that. Actually,
I think my spool just called alex to save the confusion.
Sixteen past ten here till twelve?

Speaker 5 (01:25:13):
What have you got?

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
People? Yes, I tell you what. It comes up from
time to time about Bruce Russell. Now someone sent a
text that says plonker. What's that referring to? I'll text
them back anyway one hundred and eighteen, nineteen ninety to

(01:25:40):
text if you want to come through sixteen past ten?
Anything else? Brilliant, warts, born free and Jane Goodle. It's
the three things we are talking about tonight. And these
giant fish that take so much money. Duct take method
for method for wart removal works without chemicals. Check it out.

(01:26:04):
When I was ten, I had warts on by hands.
Mum was told and i'd lady, I should write potato
pennings on them, particularly the white flesh. So I did
it for a week. All gone, Marcus. School sources are

(01:26:25):
still a thing, especially in low income's schools. Otherwise known
as impedago, very serious if not treated, if left long term,
can affect kidneys. John o Loom who's kidney problem started
from untreated impedigo as a kid, need to wash tails, bedding,
et cetera, otherwise we'll reinfect holy contagious from school teacher
Rebeca xx Marcus had a water on my knee around

(01:26:45):
ten millimeters in size at age twelve or thirteen, cut
it into quarters with a kid's exow and pulled each
quarter off with plies. A lot of bleeding that was
never seen again a long time ago. And as a kid,
my sister had he watch on one hand. My father,
a doctor, got out his diathermy needle and tried to
aim it at the biggest warp, but sister freaked out
and wouldn't let him do it. Within a week or

(01:27:08):
the warts were gone. Mind of a matter of coincierence.
I do not know mircaus. I do like the nineties
band Verukas Salt. They were good too, Yes, cheers Barry
from Waimette. I think Verarukas Salt was a character from
a roll Dale book though too, wasn't it from the
line from the Chae of the Chocolate Factory. But yes,

(01:27:29):
they were a band that sung seither you'll remember They're
gone berfem in the day with Varukas Salt think they
had too wou here too lines free if you want
to be a part of it nineteen past ten, Yes, yes,
and if there's other stuff you've got, I'm up for
it all tonight by weight one hundred eighty ten eighty

(01:27:54):
Senate it good evening, John Marcus welcome.

Speaker 12 (01:28:02):
Yeah, John, can send the bush Marcus.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
How are you not hear from your John? Very good thing.

Speaker 12 (01:28:07):
I met Dane Gudell at least two times in Tanzania.
Once sits in and Go and got created lodge and
she was with the leak east from the Old of
I Gorge, and so we were camped up there. It
was an overland trip and they the Leak's invited us

(01:28:28):
down for a personal pour of the prehistoric man in
the Old of I Gorge. And that was the first
time I met her. And then about six months later
I met her at the Masai Mara Lodge when we
were there on another trip. So she was a lovely person.
What year we're talking, John, seventy three, seventy four, okay, and.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
What was yours? What tell me what you would you
were young? You were young and spend a lot of
time in Africa is at the circumstances.

Speaker 12 (01:28:59):
Yeah, I left. I left Wellington nineteen seventy three and
I went. I was flatting with a couple of Roadiesian
guys and I had a big job in Wellington and
I was getting too many I just couldn't be bothered,
so they said to me come to Africa. So yep
signed to check. I think it was two hundred and
thirty two dollars at about one o'clock in the morning.

(01:29:22):
Six weeks later, I was on a boat from Melbourne
to Cape Town and I ended up spending three years
in Africa. Went straight through Rhodesia and then I got
a job running over land trips from Tehannesburg all through Africa,
but mainly up through Ethiopia today in Egypt that way, Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
And what sort of vehicle John.

Speaker 12 (01:29:45):
First trip It was in a sixth one hundred land
drover caring a trailer the roof rack. And at the
same time the tour leader was driving at an ex
Army ril bedfit with eighteen people in the back of
it and the baggage trailer, and I was driving the
land driver from the camp. Well, when you bad camp

(01:30:06):
and there was the top of old Eye Gorge, sorry
to top it and go and go a crater and
they'd warned us big careful. There was a roade bill
elephant around and I don't know, eight o'clock at night
cut and down there full land rove of people would
come around this we sort of a dirt track and
there goes this big bottle a clapped his tongue and

(01:30:27):
shaking his head and then he crapped yourself. Doesn't matter
how tough you think you are.

Speaker 9 (01:30:32):
Wow.

Speaker 12 (01:30:33):
Jeff kid from Osie, he was the toy leader and
he said, shut turner off, turn the land rover off,
and you sit there. And it came up and gave
We had big bull bars full of Jerry cans across
the front. That gave us a bit of a push.
And then it came and its big bloody eye was
I could see it. You know, my head was about

(01:30:54):
the height his head when he put down. And yeah,
you're not as brave as you think when a big
pair of tusks are very close to you.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
And how tourists the tourists from where the assis Ausies
and South Africa are English people, where we are clients from.

Speaker 12 (01:31:12):
Yeah, Kiwei's Aussis Americans. Europeans like to a trip from
South Africa. Right up was the top nearly four months
and there it was all camping. It was fantastic, you know.
It was another friend of mine from Saint Paposh school days.

(01:31:37):
We got chased up a tree from the trees by
a couple of lions and we were we were sitting
up there thinking a bug of this. They can climb trees,
but you know, and locked down to the river and
the river had crocodiles and blood. He had a bottom

(01:31:58):
us and I said, I we're better shake hands hawky,
I said, the zogun and the bloody river if those
lions come up here. And luckily they didn't mark us.
But when we went to get down, the bottom branches
were probably about eight foot off the ground and we
must have been like monkeys. Bloody scrambled up.

Speaker 11 (01:32:20):
Well.

Speaker 12 (01:32:22):
But it was fantastic time, you know, because it's.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
A long trip four months for tourists. I mean, that's
a hell of a time to speed in Africa, isn't it?

Speaker 6 (01:32:30):
Oh not really, not really.

Speaker 12 (01:32:32):
That was if everything went good. So if you're if
you're going from Kenya, and then sometimes you went like
Zaia was closed and Uganda was closed. So we went
northern Kenya into southern Sudan, across the top, across the
air into central Central African Republic, into the Cameroons and

(01:32:55):
right onto the west coast, and then we went north,
stopped in Carno and Nigeria to do vehicle repairs and
stuck up with fuel and all that. But going through
that route it was a two thousand kilometer between gill stops.
So we carried an extra forty four gallon from a

(01:33:17):
diesel in the back and the trailer, and by the
time we got to Bengie for the first fuel, we
might have had ken gallons left in the tanks.

Speaker 11 (01:33:27):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
I thought four months was more a long time for
the group of people because it's probably clashes in four months.
I mean, you have all sorts of falling out and things.

Speaker 12 (01:33:36):
Would you, Oh yeah, some of them are rippers, you know,
and but you just you really didn't key to stay
to them, you know. I had a trip in South America.
I had a real The most problematic passengers were really

(01:33:57):
the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians because they were
so used to everything running on time and to a
high standard. And of course in these overland rips you
just to wet camp and gravel pit side the road,
all that sort of stuff. And they found it quite difficult.
If the border was closed, you couldn't do anything about it.
You just hang around or you'd buy you go back

(01:34:21):
down in Africa and they couple of three miles from
the border, you just cross across and so we're not staying.
And it was a perfect job for young Kiewis and
Aussies as drivers.

Speaker 3 (01:34:35):
It was we were you mechanics as well.

Speaker 12 (01:34:39):
Yeah, we had to look after the vehicles. On that
first trip we were we picked a couple of new
passengers up in Nairobi and then we were heading off
and we're heading to Stabu, which is one of the
game parts, and it was the start of the wood
rainy Seas and Marcus and the guy, the Ossie guy

(01:35:00):
had the good tires on the front of the bedfit
and I said to him, you need to have you
should have those good tires on the back. I said,
I need good steering. And I used to have to
push him through some of the bogs to get him going,
but anyway, I said, I stopped him and the passengers
sent his truck because they were still on the game park.

(01:35:22):
They were sitting on top of the aircraft seats with
their knees and the thighs outside there and then their
heads and arms through the top. You know that was
stelled army canopies with the canvas rolled up. And I
said everybody in and tied everything down. And the Aussie

(01:35:43):
guy said, I'm the toll lead or what do you
think doing? I said, you'll kill some buggers soon anyway
where we go, and wasn't five minutes. Next thing he
was snaking down and he did one hundred and eighty
degree turned and slide in front of us, and there
was a scotsman in the front who was waving to
us whether the next thing it rolled on to its side.

(01:36:06):
Very few dramas got.

Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
To go to your logo kid lines, but thanks so
much for that call mid lot to me. Really liked that.
Thank you, Hi Dave Marcus, welcome hive.

Speaker 9 (01:36:19):
I've got gorilla tracking in Rwanda in twenty sixteen when
I was doing an African trip. Got a certificate in
front of me.

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
What year did you say?

Speaker 9 (01:36:33):
Twenty sixteen? Okay August yep MLLA gorilla tracking certificate for
the thanks presented Thanks to David Patton for the contribution
to the cause of conserving the critical endangered Mountain Gorillas

(01:36:54):
Rwanda by visiting the Isabeu Kurua group in the Volcanoes
National Park, home of the mountain gorillas.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
So what does tricking me? It means you walked up
to see them.

Speaker 9 (01:37:06):
About that, how you will go to Well, we must
have gone from where we were staying, probably about three
quarters an hour hour and we had some help us
along with us to carry anything that we wanted to take,
and they were very good. And then we came to
a wall wall area and then the some more guides

(01:37:29):
took over, but they were they had guns, and they
took us through quite tall bush, shall I say. In fact,
one of the guides that took us from where we
were staying up to the ward area gave me some
gloves because I would need them to push the vegetation aside.

(01:37:56):
And then we walked probably another twenty half an hour
through the bush and there was a clearing and we
came to a family of gorillas and mother and father
seemed to be asleep. Baby was on the top of
the mother, and there was a couple of teenagers just

(01:38:19):
playing around with each other and you know, knocking each
other over, rolling around, and after probably looking at them
for twenty half an hour, twenty minutes half an hour,
they woke up and Gradsley woke up and started walking

(01:38:39):
towards us, and we were told to stand it just
just as still.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
They'll walk through you.

Speaker 11 (01:38:46):
And they did.

Speaker 9 (01:38:47):
They brushed past us and disappeared up another track and
not to be seen again.

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
Well, yeah, that sounds it's pretty amazing, eh, it was.

Speaker 9 (01:39:01):
It was, Yeah, it was a bit scary when they
started walking towards us. I realized how large they were.

Speaker 3 (01:39:10):
That's not what the guns were for, though.

Speaker 11 (01:39:12):
Was it.

Speaker 9 (01:39:13):
Yes? I would imagine so, yes, and these these these
these guides, and that with the guns they would talk
to the gorillas. They would grunt that similar to the gorilla.

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
So the gorillas were away. You were there the whole time,
were just at the end.

Speaker 9 (01:39:33):
I would imagine they knew we were there all the
all the time. They were so relaxed about it though,
didn't take any notice of us. But like I said,
the the adults were asleep, the teenagers roaring around, playing around.
After they woke up and decided to move. They just

(01:39:56):
strolled towards us up the path they go. We just
happened to be in the way.

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
Did they tell you how many gorillas were there?

Speaker 9 (01:40:07):
I can't remember. There were very small groups. We had
a group of about six or eight I come from memory,
and there were other groups that went in different directions. Obviously,
I would imagine the gorillas like lying of the sun

(01:40:29):
in certain areas, and they know where to go, but
they only take small took small groups to the gorillas.

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
Yeah, okay, and they seem like they quite have quite
a chilled out life. They don't do much.

Speaker 4 (01:40:43):
Is that right?

Speaker 9 (01:40:44):
Well, they didn't seem to at that time.

Speaker 10 (01:40:47):
No, certainly not.

Speaker 3 (01:40:50):
Yeah, okay, pretty interesting, Dave, thank you for that. Twenty
five away from eleven, it'll twelve. A lot of tics,
a lot of them, understand. Did they serve scornes after?
As long as Junie? What's that about? Marcus? Is a
Van Krish northbound just past the BP at bombayl Check
on the website see if it's going to close the roads.

(01:41:11):
Marcus power outage Mount Roskill while they change over transformer
could be till five am. But when they did the
last one, she came back on it too. That's from Mike.
Thank you Mike. We put a nail polish on Wartz.
They couldn't breathe. Marcus, I thought you did the next
tentle joke when talking about the golf match cat I
thought you said he must have been the catty. That's
quite good. Yeah, okay, well bad me. By the way,

(01:41:36):
the Alexandra klock is the seventeenth biggest clock in the world,
which begs the question what would be the biggest? Some
kejhah castalos, some have a giant clock. One of those
weird leaders probably am I right, Dan, Maybe that's what

(01:42:02):
we needed to get the economy going. As the world's
biggest clock. I don't think so. Saudi Arabia also the tallest, biggest,
tallest forty three meters a day out. We could beat that.
Forty three meters in diameter. You can see for twenty
five kilometers away. Should be our next station promotion building

(01:42:27):
the world's biggest clock. I don't know where you'd put
it in it a rugby field or something. Come on, people,
what do you got? Warts and gorillas? Yep, jumping if
you want to talk, Hittil twelve yep, oh eight hundred

(01:42:50):
and eighty eighty. Keep emails coming through if you've got them.
M oh, by the way, to remember to vote the
local body election times running out. You need to vote
them by about Tuesday or Wednesday. Oh, now, I don't

(01:43:18):
know if. Yeah, I'm going to research it. I'm going
to investigate about I shouldn't say research. I'm going to
investigate about Star Wars and born free anthropologist Louis Louis
Leaky chose three young women to study primates Jane Jane Goodall, Chimpanzees,
Dian Fossey, guerrillas by Rutti Galdikas Orangutang's Sharon. Thanks for that, Sharon.

(01:43:40):
I didn't know much about that, but yeah, I kind
of saw a bit of about that on looking at
a Greek. Yeah, I guess it's Louis Leaky, Kenyan British paleoanthropologist.
There you go, had the Leaky foundation. That makes more sense.

(01:44:01):
I don't know much about Baruti Galdicas, doctor Baruti. She
founded the Orangutang Foundation International. But he says, I say,
when I read this morning that Jane Goodall would died,
I thought Jan didn't know she was still alive. Anyone
predicted Dan would have been great one to predict, wouldn't it?

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
Exactly? Damn mind you? I shouldn't. I shouldn't. I shouldn't
just see the passing of great people as a chance
to think, well, we could have predicted that. I am
working on my ones for next year. My predictions, yep,

(01:44:44):
I don't know what they are yet, I know some
of them. Eighteen away from eleven Hittel twelve. Here's a
question for me. You know, on Facebook, right when something
comes up and it says people you may know? Is

(01:45:06):
that people that have been looking at your Facebook page?
I suspected it? Is that true? If someone could confirm
that with me, There's something I've been wondering about, because, yeah,
what's that about? I'm pretty sure that's the way it works,
is it? We might say something about that. Also tonight,
very good calls about Africa. Seventeen to eleven nights. I

(01:45:29):
guess Roman. I guess it's a Roman night tonight, major
instant at Manchester Synagogue attack A shot onto that. Thanks
for the heads up on that one. People, do you
want to check on the BBC there? Dan Police Resporting
Police are responding to an so I just this is

(01:45:55):
a rolling coverage. It's you on compur too. The holy
day of the religious Jewish religious calendar. Four people have
been in didn't attack at the synagogue and Manchester. The
police suspect was shot by police. The suspect is believed
to have died. So that's the situation there. Thanks for
the heads up on that one. Hold your horses, Ray

(01:46:16):
with you son, sixteen to eleven, fourteen to eleven, This
is Ray Marcus welcome you know.

Speaker 5 (01:46:23):
Marcus, how are you good? Right? Marcus yere? I just
just just got home and just be tuned into you.
That Jane good Or.

Speaker 12 (01:46:33):
She was a.

Speaker 5 (01:46:33):
Wonderful woman, that girl. I watched watch a few documentaries
about her. She was a female version of David Edinburgh.
And the bonding she went out there with with the
mountain gorillas and then the Marines and the chips and
all that, you know, was was so touching to see
how how she win the confidence and that and go

(01:46:56):
up and they would they'd come up and she could
touch them and pat them and all that. And I
watched one of the programs marcusy when she had one
of the since she'd got took all marenge and you
got to know somebody well got its head chopped off
and all that and just broke her heart, you know.
But she had a wonderful life and and what she

(01:47:17):
did for the Animal Kingdom was incredible, Marcus. You know,
and it's a shame to see those sort of people
that have put so much dedication in life into animals
to pass away.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
But she had a good And is anyone said about
someone dying at ninety two?

Speaker 5 (01:47:35):
Yeah, well, I mean, but it's not so much that, Marcus.
It's a dedication she had.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
For a job.

Speaker 3 (01:47:41):
Yeah, And you know, and and to to.

Speaker 5 (01:47:46):
To put all that time and thing like that that
like the girls shed Sheldick there there with the elephants.

Speaker 3 (01:47:52):
And over there whose were the elephants?

Speaker 5 (01:47:56):
Definitely Sheldick. And it was then one thing looking after
the elephants over and over. This is Smer National Park.
Her husband used to be a ranger. But those sort
of people there, Marcus, the world student people you know
that that dedicate their lives to look after them.

Speaker 3 (01:48:19):
You're already are up on this one with shot and
know about that.

Speaker 5 (01:48:23):
We could Marcus, we can learn a lot from the
Animal Kingdom, like what.

Speaker 2 (01:48:30):
Like what.

Speaker 5 (01:48:32):
You you look how intelligent. The animals are like when
they think things out, you see, they see the bare
moons and and all that sort of stuff, and the
chips here when they use tools, you know, to get
grubs and all that sort of stuff. How long did
it take that came in before they learned how to

(01:48:53):
rock and all that the front and all that the
animals by by starvation and learned how to do that
sort of stuff. They're not stupid, they're clever markers.

Speaker 3 (01:49:04):
Where have you just come from?

Speaker 10 (01:49:06):
Ray?

Speaker 21 (01:49:08):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:49:08):
Beat down to the to the call the fifth and
maine to him have a.

Speaker 3 (01:49:12):
Few beers, but at the local.

Speaker 5 (01:49:16):
He is good night. I went to a quiz night tonight.
One didn't do really good quiz nights.

Speaker 3 (01:49:23):
Give us one of the questions, right, Oh, they.

Speaker 5 (01:49:26):
Were hard questions. I thought you to get to go
into the like the Chase programs. Some of the Chase
program questions were easy. Compet to this. Give us a question.
Give us a question, well, like some of the things

(01:49:47):
you like for the the early so the right make
nineteen hundred, some of the ones that were the actresses
and all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:50:03):
You know, like.

Speaker 3 (01:50:07):
Can you remember one of the questions?

Speaker 5 (01:50:10):
Not really knows No, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:50:12):
Fair enough, thanks for trying saving away from a living
granteds Marcus. Welcome my buttons a bit. You think I
got you the grant? Welcome, it's Marcus. Good evening, Yeah
right mate.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
Hey, she was such an amazing person in the nineteen fifties.
She lives in Tanzania and lived with the Jimpanese that.

Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
Lived with a who.

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
What's the Chimpanese and archier what? She befriended them and
she sat with them and feed them and ur learned
all about them. She was just an amazing person. Yeah,

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they're MCA.

Speaker 3 (01:51:07):
Yeah, of course I am.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
Yeah, all right, I'm sort of I've just stuffed up self.

Speaker 3 (01:51:16):
And where are you, Grant, you're the barrier?

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah mate. I've talked to you before.

Speaker 3 (01:51:23):
Yeah, I think I recognized you. I recognized your rhythms
of your voice.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
Yeah yeah, No, I'm a diver from way back, and
I've talked to you about diving and the sounds and
something like that. But what I'm I'm amazed with her
dedication and how she uh sat with them and how

(01:51:51):
she learned about them, and how she learned and they
accepted her, and how she learn that they meet. The
only that were ever begs and you know a little

(01:52:13):
but uh ah, not like cars as such, but that
how they were gold called actually devised ways to get food.

Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
Yeah, I might live with there, Grant, but thank you.
Nice to hear from you. Five from eleven has been
incident a synagogue in Manchester. The police have shot the person.
There are four people that are injured, lads. Information I've
got that as that at seven minutes ago. So the

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latest time I'm seeing is police say suspect shot after
four people something injuries caused by car and stabbings. It's
a situation there and a lot of shops of British
Emergency Services people in bulletproof uniforms. I presume that's their
Special Command Group crumpsall North Manchester. You don't if you

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see the British Police Star with all the packing firearms
on both hips. So yes, that's the situation anyway. That's
what I've got for you if you want to talk
about warts or Jane Goodle also talking a fear about
Born Free, which I'm very happy to talk about. Such
a distant memory for me, such a very great song too.

(01:53:41):
I'll listened to that during the news Born Free Matt Monroe,
one of the great films, beautifully acted, beautifully shot. If
I could say that that was about Joy and George Adamson,
who are a real life couple who adopted an elphant

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lion cub and raised it to adulthood.

Speaker 4 (01:54:07):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:54:09):
She wrote a book called Born Free, and then I
think I read that too. This she wrote still Free
and even more free or something free again. The line
had been killing goats, so George had to go and
kill the lion, and then they had to adopt Elsa.
I imagine it's probably a revised I don't know what
the revised. Yeah, let's not say that at the stage.

(01:54:31):
But beautiful colors, beautifully shot, and that's what we were
on about. So if you want to mention that or
anything else in the next hour, God, it'd be nice
to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:54:45):
I presume she's dead.

Speaker 12 (01:54:46):
Is she?

Speaker 3 (01:54:48):
Yes? Died on third of January nineteen eighty. I was
just murdered, wasn't she. Oh, she murdered because she was
not paying her workers. That's right. It was here and
not the other one, not Dian Fosse. I think the
person was confused. He or maybe I was confused. I'll
read more. Catch you soon. It's seven past eleven. How

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you're going people, My name is Marcus Hettel twelve oh
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Romans Romance along from
Midnight tonight. We are talking warts and we're talking about
Jane Goodall and Joy Adamson and Diane Fossey. I can't

(01:55:30):
keep up actually, but Jane Goodle was the one that
died today, and Diane Fossy was the one from the
movie Guerrillas in the Mist, and Joy Adamson was the
one from Bornfree, which I went back to listen to
the song. It wasn't as good as I remembered it actually,
I mean the start's good bits about it doesn't really

(01:55:52):
go anywhere, but it was good at the time. So yes,
do come through if you want to talk. Oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty and nineteen ninety to text.
So both Jane, both Diane Fossey and the one with

(01:56:14):
the lines were both murdered. Since realized Joe Adamson was
Both of those were murdered, and strong allegations about why
they were murdered also, So yes, just put that out there, Christine.
It's Marcus Welcome Joy.

Speaker 24 (01:56:31):
Adamson's husband was also murdered, and he was up in
Kenya at the time, and a young chap that worked
for them up there he to save There were three
young lion cubs that he had with them, so he
brought them down from Kenya into Botswana. And I was

(01:56:55):
staying with a friend of mine at his property in
Botswana many years ago, and anyway, reading these books in
my room at night, and I was reading this one
about the lines and everything, and I said to John,
this sounds awfully familiar. He said, yes, he said, they

(01:57:15):
bought the lion cubs down to my property, and they
were there, and they bought them up there. And this
chap had written he's written a number of books about
the Adamson's and whatever. So anyway, so it turned out.
And when I left to come home, John gave me
a copy of this book and signed it. And I

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am now an honorary member of the Born Free Club.

Speaker 3 (01:57:40):
Oh now, and what we're doing? What were you doing
in Botswana?

Speaker 24 (01:57:47):
Well, John used to live in Auckland and I met
him there, but he actually was from Pretoria. So I
was invited over. So we drove from his property in
Pretoria up to Botswana to stay and it was amazing,
absolutely amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:58:07):
And Adamson had come down after No.

Speaker 24 (01:58:12):
Not Adamson. Adamson had been murdered. Yes, he had moved
to live in Kenya because Joy Adamson was murdered after him.
I think, yes, I can't remember, I was quite some
time ago. But this young chap that worked for Adamson
and Kenya to save the lion cubs that they had left.

(01:58:34):
He removed them and brought them down into Botswana.

Speaker 3 (01:58:37):
Where you were. And John was yeah, yeah, okay, and
he bought them up. I mean, did they not go
wild again? Did they live on his property?

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
No?

Speaker 24 (01:58:46):
No, no, they lived on the property, but they never
actually went wild again because they they still recognized and
related to humans.

Speaker 3 (01:58:58):
Okay, So they spent their life living with him. Yeah, yeah,
And he had quite a bit. He had quite a
big property that he had, like.

Speaker 24 (01:59:05):
A huge huge yeah yeah, thousands of oh absolutely, and
it was there was three privately owned properties only just
trying to think of the name of the river that
was right on the river, and then across the river
was oh, another country just north of South Africa there anyway,

(01:59:35):
they but the three farms. There was no fencing or anything.
There weren't farms as we know them, but the three properties.
And that was the largest privately owned sort of animal
sanctuary in that whole of that area. But it was
all just privately owned land.

Speaker 5 (01:59:56):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:59:57):
And what year was that you were there, Christine, Oh.

Speaker 24 (02:00:00):
Gosh, would have been probably seventies.

Speaker 3 (02:00:03):
Okay, appreciate it. Thank you so much for coming through.
Mike ats Marcus good evening? Who Mike, Yes, Mike, welcome.

Speaker 2 (02:00:13):
Hello.

Speaker 7 (02:00:13):
It was Jane Goodall?

Speaker 2 (02:00:15):
Was she Tarzan's girlfriend?

Speaker 3 (02:00:20):
I think Jane Goodall? I think I think Tarzan's Jane
hit Us her name.

Speaker 2 (02:00:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (02:00:26):
Yeah, that'd bed.

Speaker 3 (02:00:28):
That'd be my impression with that one, Mirke. But thank you,
great time, great liberty, thirteen past eleven, born free, welcome.
You want to talk about this or what.

Speaker 11 (02:00:51):
More?

Speaker 3 (02:00:51):
Grant please? The Japanese chimpanzees were hope, Yes, I couldn't
we go that for a minute. I got caught me
out going about the chimpanese, which is a good thing,
isn't it. You notice those kind of movies have been
through a blender of failed remakes. Fair enough, get in touch.
You want to be a part of this or anything
else you want to mention tonight, Hendle twelve, whatever you

(02:01:17):
got up for it. Oh wait a one hundred eighty
twenty and nineteen ninety six. There's been other things we've
talked about. Also, there's very expensive to maintain giant fish
in small towns, you know, the salmon and rakaia three
undred thousand dollars to fix I don't know what you
want to say about that. What's the point also tonight, Oh,

(02:01:42):
they are doing Mavie. Plenty of people seem to have
enjoyed that. If you've seen that, you might want to
give your impression of it. In talking about Jane Goodall
and Joy Adamson and Diane Fossy, it's all we're confusing
all the stories, but you might want to come through
about that and have to say something. So that's kind

(02:02:05):
of what the rills for tonight. Anything else I can
accommodate that. Yep, Marcus, I'm sure you all listeners. You
and your listeners have seen the famous National Geographic photos
of Jane and the rainforest with the chimps in the sixties.

(02:02:26):
There is a great photo of Jane with a tin
camping cup looking directly to the chimp. I hadn't good
account that Jane was a little stress of having to
pose for hours on end for those photos that decide
to relax with a nice single malt whiskey in that cup.
An amazing human being, a challenged the idea of what
it has to be human and showed us how to
be humble and respectful of our planet and all its life. Yes,

(02:02:50):
since you lived to a ripe old age and unlike
murdered like the other two, which says something.

Speaker 6 (02:02:58):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:02:59):
I don't know much about Jane Goodle. This fund a
bit more information about Jane goodelaeh a title's advocate for
prediction and restoration of our natural world, the leading expert
on chimpanzees. What about the bonobo ones either free lovers?
Aren't they Bonobo's? You've ever read about them? People don't
talk as much about them now. She's on stage in

(02:03:20):
New York just last week talking about chimpanzees. So she's
acted for a long time. She was due to speak
in Los Angeles tomorrow.

Speaker 12 (02:03:29):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (02:03:34):
So yeah, it's got articles about her. I haven't read
all those, but there we go. Now twenty nine to
twelve trace This is Marcus good evening, Hattie.

Speaker 21 (02:03:44):
Marcus, it's Trace from the Attager Harbor here.

Speaker 22 (02:03:46):
How are you doing?

Speaker 2 (02:03:47):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:03:47):
Really good? Thanks? Trace good.

Speaker 21 (02:03:49):
I just you know, we've got the Port Charmers Seafood
Festival on this weekend down at Port It's run on
the Ittago on the Attaga Harbor down the at Port
Charmers and it's in Port Oitago, you know, down right
down now.

Speaker 3 (02:04:07):
Fun if it's the first for the first year that's
really been on my radar this year? How many years
you've been doing it?

Speaker 21 (02:04:13):
Oh, got lots of lots of year it's been. It's
been going for quite a while. It's actually every second
year it's on. We've been down to yours at the
Bluff Festival as well, so I'm just a volunteer there
this year. It's a it's a great event though, lots
of great bands. We've got Nadia Limb and.

Speaker 12 (02:04:36):
What does she say, Oh no, she's Nadia.

Speaker 3 (02:04:41):
I know what you're talking about. Hey, you just had
me at where is it? Where's the venue?

Speaker 21 (02:04:49):
Port of Targo?

Speaker 3 (02:04:51):
Because okay, so because it's all kind of behind walls
and behind logs, so you don't really see what I
don't understand.

Speaker 21 (02:04:57):
Where it is is.

Speaker 11 (02:04:58):
Yes.

Speaker 21 (02:04:59):
So if you go straight down the main street of
Port and you hang hang right at the bottom, yep.

Speaker 3 (02:05:05):
And I've been there where where the fairy goes the
crossed the Yeah, okay, past all those logs.

Speaker 21 (02:05:13):
No, don't go that far. No, it's just yeah, you
just turn right off the main street and it's right there.

Speaker 3 (02:05:19):
So the cruise terminal, Yeah, the cruise ship.

Speaker 21 (02:05:23):
Terminal yep, straight in there, yep. And it's begulous. But
now I wanted to pull you up on something you
seared a while ago. We were listening. I was listening
and I heard you say that Bluff was the only
north facing port. Yes, and it's not Port Chalmers is

(02:05:43):
as well.

Speaker 3 (02:05:44):
No faces southwest southeast.

Speaker 21 (02:05:47):
No it doesn't, it does Port Chalmers doesn't.

Speaker 2 (02:05:53):
It does?

Speaker 18 (02:05:56):
No faces north?

Speaker 3 (02:05:59):
Well, which part of it?

Speaker 21 (02:06:02):
Well, when you're actually right at the main main street,
at the bottom of the main street of Charmers, who
is direct north?

Speaker 3 (02:06:12):
But if you're looking out to see right, yeah, it's north.
No it's not.

Speaker 21 (02:06:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 (02:06:21):
But not if you're looking across the harbor to Port Bellow.

Speaker 21 (02:06:25):
Oh no, that's no, No, you're looking the wrong way.
You're around that beach there.

Speaker 3 (02:06:29):
Yeah, but that's that's where you're looking from your harbor anyway,
I beg to do. So where are you looking north from.

Speaker 21 (02:06:38):
Right from in the actual port?

Speaker 18 (02:06:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:06:43):
Yeah, yeah, okay, because you look straight the sun's behind
you in the winter, is it? You don't get the
sun coming in your window?

Speaker 18 (02:06:52):
Do you?

Speaker 21 (02:06:53):
Oh well I'm at roast yeah yeah right, more.

Speaker 3 (02:06:58):
More important, it's not into a harbor fight. What because
I presume there is. What do they get put a
canoe here? They're cockles and things in there. What sort
of seafood do you have?

Speaker 21 (02:07:07):
Yeah, we've got them in the harbor as well. In
the Icago Harbor, we've got the couples.

Speaker 17 (02:07:12):
They call them clams, but they are cockle and yeah.

Speaker 21 (02:07:16):
There are blueskins around, a blue skin and bay and
that blueskin bay. Yeah, no, what's over white chats have
got copples over there as well.

Speaker 17 (02:07:26):
There's lots of seafood round.

Speaker 11 (02:07:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (02:07:28):
We've got power and crayfish and peppees and tour tours
and muscles.

Speaker 3 (02:07:35):
There's quite a few delicacies.

Speaker 21 (02:07:37):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 (02:07:40):
Where do people come from? Is it mainly Otago people?
The people all over the South Island cover is it
getting quite bigger and bigger it is.

Speaker 21 (02:07:47):
It is a bit like busting. Yeah, we're getting people
from out of town coming, which is really great.

Speaker 2 (02:07:53):
Yeap.

Speaker 21 (02:07:55):
When the World Cup was here, Oh my god, that
was a good festival that year.

Speaker 12 (02:07:58):
Yes, had a couple of the rugby.

Speaker 21 (02:08:00):
Teams down there, which was fun. But good bands, good music,
you know, and it's and it's a great day out.
Like yeah, yeah, lots of cul andry displays.

Speaker 12 (02:08:11):
And the boys at Harbourfish, I think they've got a connection.

Speaker 3 (02:08:16):
I think they got to store the connection down on
Bluff to Harbor Fish, haven't they. Yes, I know.

Speaker 21 (02:08:19):
But about them, Yeah, they're great because they actually do
demonstration showing you how to fish and all that kind
of thing. And like for the kids, they have little
fishing rods there and that kind of thing. And you
see kids fishing off the wharfs down there and they
get some fantastic fish from the great blue cod fish

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off the wharf, and you know, some of those kids
have never touched a fishing.

Speaker 3 (02:08:45):
That's interesting. It's interesting because the Bluff Festival simply doesn't
cater for the kids because it's all a bit boozy,
so you don't have gear that's good.

Speaker 11 (02:08:51):
For the kids.

Speaker 21 (02:08:54):
What are you doing there, I'm.

Speaker 12 (02:08:56):
Just doing the cash, okay, counting the cash.

Speaker 3 (02:08:59):
Yeah, yeah, because I think about the Bluff Fish it's amazing.
It's amazing. They're just such a small community puts on
such a huge event. You know, it is amazing. It
is fantastic what it does.

Speaker 21 (02:09:09):
It is the small communities I think do really well.
Do all the volunteers, and that they just get in
right behind it because they want to promote their area
and you know, and it's just great. Yeah, great for
the area.

Speaker 2 (02:09:22):
No.

Speaker 3 (02:09:22):
I know the thing about with the Bluff Festival, it
sells out quite early. You've got still got tickets available,
have you.

Speaker 21 (02:09:29):
I'm mentally not sure to tee the truth.

Speaker 3 (02:09:32):
I've run to promote it. That's bad. And I can
see I can see the VIP tickets are sold out.
Why am I doing your work? I can see you
can check on.

Speaker 21 (02:09:39):
I think everyone could get a ticket if they came
to the door, you'd get in.

Speaker 3 (02:09:44):
Okay, I can see buy tickets there. It's reasonably priced.

Speaker 21 (02:09:47):
Yeah, and you've got free buses from the town.

Speaker 3 (02:09:50):
Hang on, there's a train and a train yeah.

Speaker 21 (02:09:54):
And boats, so you can jump on the Monarch and
come down the harbor and straight in, or you can
get one of the ferries on the harbor. And yet
the train goes straight onto the port.

Speaker 3 (02:10:07):
Fantastic through that tunnel right there, past the tunnel hotel. Yeah,
I love that train coming through there.

Speaker 10 (02:10:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (02:10:14):
Perfect, and straight onto the port and off you get
and straight into the festival and then a free bus home.

Speaker 3 (02:10:21):
Okay. Oh, that's fantastic work you've done to promote that.
My family is away. Otherwise I'd be dragging them up.
But they're flying into Dneda on Sunday, so I might
see if I can it. Is it Saturday and Sunday?

Speaker 21 (02:10:34):
No, it's just said day.

Speaker 3 (02:10:36):
Yeah no, I still might do it. Trace, thank you.
That's really good to hear from you about that. I
might just do that myself. Why not, he says, I
might see their trace on the You'll be on the
till will you.

Speaker 21 (02:10:51):
I'll be on the cell, clean the money.

Speaker 3 (02:10:55):
I might see you there on Saturday. What times? What
times kickoff or eleven eleven? Yes, works well for me.
Thank you for that. Trace.

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