Schoolyard Osmosis (8 December 2025)

Marcus wonders whether a social media ban for under-16s will work here, and what makes a good Christmas song?

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from News Talks,
i'd be.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Greetings, how are you welcoming as Monday?

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I know that was a stupid thing to say, but
sometimes you just think hosts just say that to remind
them it's not the Friday Free Frants the Monday series show,
but just two weeks left for me too, so we'll
cut a little bit loose tonight. So yeah, bright, tightan real,
whatever you got, we're into. That's kind of the way
I like to go this time of the year, surprising

(00:39):
eyes in the supermarket to night singing along to a Carol.
So I don't know what that says about me, although
it was this is this is a Carol. I think
there's a great deal between a Carol and a Christmas song.
I think a carol is about the baby Jesus been born,
So it talks about the baby Jesus or a manger,

(01:00):
that's a carol. If it's a song about Christmas, it's
not primary about the baby and the manger, and then
that's a Christmas song. I believe this is Christmas. I
think that's a Christmas song. This is Christmas. That time
of the year that's implying that it's happened more than once.

(01:25):
It's not the time of the first Christmas. I think
I'm just kind of thinking this out for myself now. So, yeah,
this is Christmas that time of the year. That's a
Christmas song. It's not a carol. I got that right, anyway.

(01:46):
Let me know. Oh wait, tountered eighty ten, eighty nine,
two nine. I'm just going to think what the other
songs are and whether the carols or whether they're Christmas songs.
Little drummer boy, I don't know about that one. What
about David Bowie Peace on Earth? I don't know about
that one either. That's kind of a medley of two songs,

(02:09):
isn't it up a pum pum? So yeah, I don't
know what you want to say about that anyway. I
think we discussed this every year. We haven't really got
it worked out or definitive yet, but you might want
to mention that. But what I've noticed I've had the
radio at home bang on some sort of easy distinct.
I don't know if it's one of ours or not.
You're gonna be careful with these stations. We own, some
they own some listen to a lot, and they play

(02:31):
a lot of songs that aren't carols, but they are
songs about Christmas that are less churchy sounding. I don't
know what they've done. And they've got like a sort
of a contemporary beat to them. They've kind of de
Christmas fired. I don't mind it, but they've de Christmas

(02:51):
fired them de CHRISTMASI fired them. Yeah, And I was
talking about that one with that that I often listened
to it, which is Ben Crosby and David Bowie because
David Bowie's mother was a huge Ben Crosby fan and
David Bowie weeks it walks in and bing crossby things. Gee,
who the hell is that? I think? Got nothing east
coming in a makeup and all sort of stuff. But

(03:12):
they harmonized and sing quite beautifully. Is that a carol?
I don't think it is. I think it's a Christmas song.
It starts with a little bit of banter anyway you
might want to mean, SA, this is not the topic
for tonight. What I mean is that I'm not going
to talk about this because something like geez talk about
this a carol and a Christmas song for four hours.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
No.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I just wonder if any want to start the whole
discussion of now and with a good definition the it
between a Carol and a Christmas song, because I try
and do it every year and sometimes I fail. I
think if we sang it at primary school in the church,
it was probably a Carol, although I could just I

(03:52):
could just mouth the words because I wasn't tuneful. I
think jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way. If
it's about Father Christmas and a sleigh, that's a Christmas song.
I haven't thought about that. That's right, because of course
Father Christmas wasn't in the Bible. I think I've got
that right. We might have been there in some different form.

(04:14):
I don't know where that form was, so yes, anyway,
So I think what's happening these days is that Carol's
Silent Night Away in a Manger you don't hear anymore.
You go years about hearing those. But the other ones,
the Christmas songs last Christmas, not a Carol of song
you hear often, Stupid's Christmas, Little Drummer Boy, they are
ones you hear often. So I think it's the death

(04:36):
of the Carol. I think I might be on to something. Anyway,
If you want to appine, feel free to come through
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine two nine
two text. I think I've explained that to myself. I've
workshopped that with myself. I've found that quite satisfying. Get
in touch if you want to text or call the
calls of this the other thing. Well, when I say
the other thing, I mean the main thing, because that

(04:58):
really wasn't a thing. But ideally, at this time of
the night you'd like to start an argument. You like
to someone and say, well, actually you're wrong, Marcus. Kids
have finished school and the six seven thing is driving
me nuts. Everything is six seven. That's right, I had
and everyone's got a six seven moment. I was at

(05:19):
a workshop today about governance and council and someone said,
often the votes go down to six because there's thirteen.
Of course, there's the there's the mayor, and there's twelve councils.
And someone said offer. I think the said often the
votes go down to six seven, and the facilitator, quick
as a quick as a whip, did the whole thing
with a hand juggling six seven, which it was quite funny.

(05:42):
And it's true. Yes three often at six seven, Yes,
I've noticed a six seven thing. It is tedious. All
they go along with it. That's the answer. We were playing.
We were playing Settlers a guitar last night and we're
discussing it off and it was six or seven and
we'd go six seven. Someone said, Selena is not Christmas.
Len mightn't be Christmas anyway, do get in touched on

(06:05):
start the whole tonight. Numbers eight eighty, ten eighty and
nine nine two text. What's worse than six seven is
asking the children to explain six to seven because it
involves terms and songs and probably social media platforms. I
have no idea about. I don't know how the children
have any idea about, because they're not really on social media.

(06:26):
But I think a lot of it happens through osmosis
school yard osmosis as opposed to taxi plus bosis. Anyway,
do get in touching on to that the other thing
and it feels serious form Monday, two weeks before Christmas.
It's not two weeks before Christmas, but two weeks before
I go to the void. I succumb to the Christmas cull.

(06:51):
And that is in Australia today they have banned social
media for the other sixteen, so or it might be
sixteen in Under and that's fine, that's all good and fine.
That was announced about I don't know we felt it
was this year on the show, people said that the
Australia is going to ban social media, and instantly on
the phone, I was inundated by people say, oh, I

(07:13):
work in technology, or I work and it will never happen.
It's impossible. Seems to me, they're making a pretty good
fist of it. Seems to me that in Australia they
will ban social media for those under sixteen, and they've
made the onus on the social media companies to do it,
and they've actually reluctantly at the last minute said that

(07:34):
they will do what they need to do to stop
sixteen year old's been on their platforms and they're the
ones that get I think that get penalized if they
are on there and the under sixteen. So yeah, it
seems to have worked. But I saw on social media
feeds today that apparently in some discussion, and I haven't
kind of fact checked it, because why would you fact
checked something if it's going to lead to a good discussion. Hopefully,

(07:57):
Erica Stanford has indicated that, in fact will happen in
New Zealand. So I don't know where you are on this.
I am someone that probably what would I say? I
haven't got a huge amount in common with a lot

(08:21):
of the government's policies. I liked when the National Government
got away with that right hand turn rule. Thought there
was one of Stephen Joyce's finest moments. It's been a
few years ago now. But this policy of Stanford's, if
in fact it is her policy, this appears to be

(08:42):
something she said in a podcast a potty and policy
by podcast. I'm not quite sure if that's even a thing. However,
the social media ban and I have children that are
twelve and ten. To me, it seems like quite a
good thing. And why am I saying that? Because I'm

(09:05):
at the age where the children are asking for phones
and I've offered them, offered them a pager and they
didn't think that was such a crash hot thing. They
couldn't be on. I mean, caution, my day, you have
a pager that you think of the king of the world.

(09:26):
It was Jery old Steve. He's got a pager? What
round to his house? The other page you see it
works watch the messages coming. That was the day that
no one had phones and the ophant had pages were
people that were on the organ transpart list, or that
they were drug carriers. So it always seemed very yeah,

(09:52):
have a pager, jeep as anyway, So yeah, no interest
in the pager. But what's under much discussion why they
want cell phones is probably for Snapchat, and that's the
one that disappears on you, so it's untraceable and slightly
probably s not something I've never been on. I don't
know that's what they want it for. And there's also

(10:13):
the sense that they want to have it because everyone
else has got it, and you want to feel a
part of it, and you want your kids to feel
a part of everything, because it feels a bit mean
spirited if they're the only ones on the school bus
that can't be scrolling through their cell phone the whole time.
So I told the kids, so I said, you're not
going to get them, because it looks like you're going
to be banned from them anyway. So I guess the

(10:36):
question to me straight up to you is are you
in favor of this? Because I would imagine most people are,
But you've also got to be careful of just going
along with something because it seems like a vote when
are and a good idea. I'm very mindful of what

(10:56):
the negatives and what the drawbacks of this policy are.
If you want to mention some of those that we
haven't considered, I'd be kind of curious to know about that.
Why is it a bad idea? So if you want
to talk about that, so I did. Any way, I'd
like to start the whole ball rolling with tonight, although
bearing in mind we are two weeks out from Christmas,
and sometimes you guys need a bit of a caning
to get through on this. So yeah, Sun's mental health,

(11:19):
all that, and let's be and probably we could tie
it in if it wasn't for if they didn't all
have social media, this probably six seventh thing wouldn't have
gone through and annoyed us so much. I can't tie
in with carols. That goodness the sixth or the seventh
fell this weekend and on in school days drives me
cozy as school as a teacher. Marcus Snoopy's Christmas was

(11:43):
infacked an RSPCA song validating its lyrics regard. I don't
know if it was, but anyway, My eight year old
son told me sixty nine was the number. Now I
kept my expression neutral? How I keep my expression neutral?
Was Oscar Worthy six'? Nine, Yeah marc's it's going to
be here to mate be the best thing for youth mental.
Health can't wait for. It so we are talking about

(12:04):
the banning of cell phones In New. Zealand dan sixteen
and under under. SIXTEEN i feel it's under? Sixteen HAVE
i got that? Right dan feels like it's under sixteen.
Too dan's like my, dance like my chet A, ai
but a more unsure. Version, yeah but come through his cell.
Phone Being, australia and of course it's, contingent a lot

(12:27):
of the parents will, think oh, no one's going to
a lot of the parents will give the kids phones,
anyway children under, sixteen under, sixteen sixteen and under under,
Sixteen well this Is, Christmas Ben marcus could even you'll
kick it. Off welcome.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
You get, It? Marcus you so my levis is. Teen
he's sort of cell. Phone but, no, no, no well
you know it's just a cheap two hundred, dollars same
song from the Wheat. House but look we've given it
to them because we know. That but, BASICALLY i know
he's going to do whatever he wants. Anyway so what

(13:06):
we've done As i've, Gone, yep you can go On, Facebook,
yep you can go on, YouTube but you hand, me
you use the name and pass with and every now
and Again i'll jump on And i'll have a check
out whether he's been looking At i'll see who he's
been talking to and. That and that's the, deal because
the WAY i see it, Is i'd rather be able
to monitor it and see what he's doing than say

(13:27):
outright no and he goes behind my back and does it.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Anyway will you give him a beer as?

Speaker 5 (13:32):
Well, no, no, no, no nothing like.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
That well he might go behind, it but he might
go and drink, then AND i, mean by your by your,
logic that might be the. Thing, Also so you'd rather
than know what he's doing than actually go away and
sneak away and sit out of someone else's.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
Bottle, well you, know like WHEN i was, fourteen my
parents be used to give me a, beer but you
drink it home in front of, them you. Know, Yeah
i'd Rather, yeah that's the Point i'm getting that Macuses
i'd Rather i'd rather, know and i'd rather have some
control over. It his appearent then just a flat no

(14:11):
and have it done behind my, back and THEN i
can't monitor. IT i don't know what's going.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
On and if he didn't have a, phone he couldn't
do it behind your.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
Back good he, well he do it on the. Laptop
we're on THE, tv you, know like the SMART. Tv
they've got access to all, that so the. Stuff he's
got one in his, room so, yeah they do all. That,
anyway he's.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Got all going up to THE tv in his.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Room they're not that expensive, though isn't you pick them
up with about three hundred bucks these days for thirty
two and SMART? Tv you know they're not. Overcross but
the thing is this social. Media THEN i don't see
it working because he's been he's been going on about.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
It we've had to.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
Talk about The ben and potentially one coming in and he, goes,
Oh andrew takes putting out videos to show how you
get around it using VPNs and just changing what country
Your facebook's and disturbing.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Cool, Ben thanks so much for. That twenty two past
eight eight EIGHT a twenty Five Patrick Bacus, Welcome.

Speaker 6 (15:08):
Hi how are You?

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Marcus?

Speaker 7 (15:09):
Good thank You Patrick i'm a seventy two year old
retiree And i'm. BLIND i used to call. YOU i
was called the mandarin. Man SURE i gave you recipes
about mandarins when you were looking for. Them, anyway look,
TONIGHT i just wanted to share something with you about
the children and, bands social media and all that sort of.

(15:32):
Things there's content on there that they need protecting from
when they're. Younger So i'm okay With. Dan the issue is,
though as, parents And i've been an early childhood jet
teacher for over sixteen, years getting four to five year
olds ready for, school and got awarded in government and

(15:52):
all that sort of, thing SO i know the. Stuff
here's a. Principle there's a Poem i'd like to just
say to. You it's very.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Brief hang on as a principal or as a principal.

Speaker 7 (16:06):
Principle of.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Life there's a principle of an hild good. Center, okay, yep,
YEP i DON'T i don't love a. Pile how long is?

Speaker 8 (16:13):
It it's very.

Speaker 7 (16:14):
Brief it's about sailing. Ships that, says one ship plies
east and the other west on the same such gale that.
Blows it's the set of the sails and not the
gales that determine the way they. Go if you've got
if you've got wind blowing on the nose from the,
north and there's two sailing ships out, there hidden in

(16:37):
the same direction into the. Wind one goes, east the other.
West we don't know the motivations of the, captains but
one starts heading out the, east might be to go
to woodland to shelter up for the night because he
sees storm up. Ahead the other captain, says, NO i
can see light out for the west around the edges

(16:59):
of this coming. BLOW i can score off, this and
so he heads out that way to get to harness the.
Wind so the set of the sales is to see
the principle is that there's. People we are like the sailing.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
SHIP i, know without flogging, IT i do get the metaphor,
okay got. It, yeah it's not the conditions that the
person in charge and there and their knowledge and how
they apply.

Speaker 9 (17:25):
It.

Speaker 7 (17:26):
Right so the thing, is as, parents if we're teaching
our kids how to, identify it's not good wind or bad,
wind it's how we harness it with our.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Sale so, sure BUT i, THINK i, THINK i think
the thing we've got to bear bear in mind that
probably parents have never been. Busier SO i THINK i
think most parents are flat up with sport and events
and doing YadA, yadi and they just look at for
an easy. Life SO i think a lot of them are.
AFLOW i, Mean i'm surprised at ten year old's got
A tv in his bedroom Watching Andrew. Tate that's slightly.

(17:56):
Disturbing but but you, KNOW i THINK i think parents
probably just want support from other parents to, say, hey
let's just let's just hang five on this for a.

Speaker 7 (18:05):
While it's building resilience over the period of their growing
up so that they're handling life better and they're not
afraid to take calculated, decisions but that it can bring
ill results or good.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Results that's sort of.

Speaker 7 (18:22):
Why are they headed in that? Way if we are
training them over time as they're growing, older they learn
then how to navigate in.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
LIFE i think probably the thing that actually freaks me
out to IS i think probably a lot of, parents
probably including broadcasters sub, broadcasters trying to encourage their children
to become social media influences or TikTok. Stars to, me
that's pretty sketchy when all the other parents they, okay you,
know and these children are sort of doing free, well

(18:53):
and it's become a lucrative. Gig SO i don't even
know where that fits in with things to. Me that
seems to me that's probably.

Speaker 10 (19:01):
Problematic, yeah, anyway, LOOK i thought i'd just Chip.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
I've got no idea what a recipe for amandarin, is
Because amandarin's a, fruit isn't?

Speaker 6 (19:10):
It yeah it.

Speaker 11 (19:11):
Is you were.

Speaker 7 (19:12):
Asking this was several years, ago AND i haven't been in,
touch BUT i said to. You you, said we don't
hear about a mandarins and recipes and stuff like. That
one night AND i rang in and told you a
couple of recipes and you, said, Mate i'm going to try.
That that sounds. Awesome sure it was, Me, yes, yeah
it was, you but it was probably six or seven years.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Ago on this nighttime. Show, yeah Brilliant. Marcus Hi, marcus
that go with a ten year old son with everything
is today's, problem that, Is. David and someone says That
Kevin wilson song is not A. Carol, YES i think
we've worked that one. Out but thank you for, That.
Marcus i'm not being a smart. Ass isn't it a
social media, band not a cell phone. Band quite a
difference either. Way thanks for. Clarifying, yes free much. So

(19:56):
but the reason children want cell phones is for social.
Media they want it for the snapper chatter or the,
TikTok instagram Or facebook and YouTube. Tube are your YouTube sketched?
Out if that's there or? Not in that one In.
Australia that's where six seven comes. FROM i think YouTube
remarkable really. WELL i say about that in the future

(20:20):
twenty nine away from nine and someone says That luxon
should be banned from. TikTok, YEAH i can understand. That
get in, Touch, andrew It's. Marcus, welcome, Okay mars doing,
Good thank, You, Andrew, HEY i reckon you hit.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
The nail on the. Head, then when you said it
all comes down to pretty, much who puts a bottle
in the hands of the of the? Children they know't
like talking when you talk to that that the guy
before you, KNOW i thought it was awesome the way
that he's sort of going on the journey with his
boy and talking with him and being. Present but for
me it comes down to what you said about the.

(20:58):
Parents maybe they should be all for social media after
sixteen hundred, hours maybe should be after, sixteen not before.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Sixteen, YEAH i was surprised his attitude that there's. Kids,
YEAH i couldn't believe it that there's kids team watching those.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Video.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, YEAH i was surprised about. It yeah, Yeah i'm
a ten year old is free? Young oh.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Mate it freaks me out that there's someone got A
tv in their room the. Television now YouTube's on and
everything's on it and YouTubers band is part of the
social media thing In. Australia but is? It, yeah, yeah
BUT i agree with.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
IT i agree with this easy made high. Excendaria oh, yeah,
Yeah i'm In.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Auckland the whole place is.

Speaker 12 (21:44):
Good, yeah BUT i, think, yeah the nail.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
On the, HEAD i think. THAT i don't. KNOW i
went on the journey with my. BOY i got a
ten year, old And i've got all the. CONTROLS i
can see what he's. Doing I've i've got you, KNOW i,
CAN i CAN i know when he's been, on where he's,
been all that sort of.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Stuff but why did you give a ten year old a?

Speaker 4 (22:02):
PHONE i know my boy's not on a. Phone the
answers on the device that he had to get from
school to. Learn remember when.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Is that a chrome is. THAT i don't know that
my boy hasn't got. One he's.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
Ten, yeah, yeah good on, you because you don't have.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
To i'm just saying at our, school no one's got.
THEM i don't, think oh, NICE i just think it's.
STANDARD i, mean it's not a it's not a it's
not an affluence. School it's but Maybe, LOOK i don't,
know don't think missing anything since we're most of the
time playing. Basketball, yeah it's not the it's not the lowest.

(22:42):
TEST i think it's but, yeah but there certainly haven't
been there to talk about their having. CHROMEBOOKS i just
check out what dee. Is i'm never quite sure which
are the high, ones which are the low. Ones, mike It's,
marcus good, Evening.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (22:55):
High how's your evening, Going? Marcus, yeah a really good.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Thing i'm at, work but a part of that's going.

Speaker 10 (22:59):
Good oh, WELL i know you enjoy your, work so that's.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
Good.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah the hobby, broadcaster that's.

Speaker 10 (23:04):
Me, yeah, YEAH i wouldn't want your.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
Job but, anyway have.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
You thought of? Applying?

Speaker 10 (23:14):
Ah, well not, really BUT i THINK i think being
some sort of reporter.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
A good.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
JOB i shouldn't say what they're always looking for because, yeah, anyway,
yes it would be good to be a, Reporter.

Speaker 10 (23:27):
Yeah investigating facts and, yep and, effects getting the truth out,
there facts not.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Opinions well, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 (23:36):
Correct but you, know with The australian social media ban under,
sixteens obviously there's a lot of psychological harm that can.
Happen but if you look At, facebook if people get
abusive and carry on and, misbehave they ban you instantly

(23:56):
or they give you A facebook jail sentence maybe a
month off where they block. You so they're constantly screening
for abuse and, dangerous harmful. Content and you, know they
wouldn't be the only social media site that would do,
THAT i. Guess AND i think if you're blocking those

(24:21):
social media, sites as everyone has said for, weeks kids
will just go elsewhere to possibly more dangerous websites and.
Things so, YEAH i guess it's an experiment and over
the next twelve months will to see how things progress with.
That but WHAT i, think and you, know my whole,

(24:44):
life you've always heard the term that politicians don't always
tell the truth and, things BUT i think what would
be what could be most disruptive for governments like The
australian government is if you look At TikTok and look
at some of their ten or twenty second segments with
people getting on, there is that a, huge huge amount

(25:07):
of people challenging, politicians Challenging, trump challenging The australian. Government
and they'll get on there and they'll, say, no they're
not doing this right and this is what they should be.
Doing AND i think what the government's worried about is
whether or not people are true or. Not is brainwashing
kids at a very young age and turning them into,

(25:29):
rebels you know, what you understand What i'm saying at
a young, age so that when they grow, up all
they're going to do is just challenge everything and possibly create.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Mayhem, okay, WOW i think?

Speaker 10 (25:44):
YEAH i think.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
So are you saying that politicians are trying to bring
the ban in because they want to stop dissenting voices.

Speaker 10 (25:53):
Growing up and developing in that?

Speaker 13 (25:54):
Way?

Speaker 10 (25:55):
Yes and when you've got young children exposed to that
sort of thing On, TikTok And TikTok Is TikTok is
just righte with that sort of, content you know you've
got you've got blank, Canvases so they're going to develop
and grow up just challenging anything and. Everything that's my.

(26:18):
Belief but just quickly with That Andrew cossa. SITUATION i
went to school with. HIM i was in his class
one year and his. Door his father was MY gp
doctor as.

Speaker 14 (26:30):
Well AND.

Speaker 15 (26:32):
I, know maybe, not maybe this is not the forum for,
discussions and, YEAH i just feel that's a bit of
an if you've went to school with a.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Note, yeah it's not a Discussion i'm going to have, Tonight.
Mike but thanks for. That twenty two away from nine oh,
wait one hundred and eighty nine. TWO i think with social,
MEDIA i don't think it's just the fact that the content
On facebook and. STUFF i think it's probably everything can be.
WEAPONIZED i, mean you, know some of the class might

(27:03):
have a lot of, people a lot of friends On.
Facebook someone they could all ostracize On, facebook and it
just gives another really easy vehicle for, bullying bullying through
and all those things that happened that probably unpleasant at
school would happen and Be you, know you're never safe

(27:26):
even at. Night if you're home at eleven o'clock at
night on yourself and you can still be, bullied you
can still you can still have that stress from that
social environment of people saying bad things to your messages to.
You stuff like. THAT i mean probably works for, some
but if it's not going so well.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
For, You.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
I'm sure it could make school really. Unpleasant that'd Be
that would be my. Thought it's not just about the
bad content and getting banned from. It for a ten
year old, boy all he wants to do is what
his mates. Do social media's band and it puts everyone
on the same. Page. MARCUS a band will help parents

(28:07):
collectively take a stance and give children the freedom to
stop behavior they probably want to cease, Anyway. MARCUS i
THINK i am going off intermediate school children all in school,
uniform in particular school WHERE i live. Today but there's
four things that really maybe lose faith in these. Children
the first one was two girls throwing a glass but

(28:28):
on the ground trying to break. It they finally broke.
IT i pulled them up and made them pick up
The glorican. Glass another instant today was an intermediate age
children swearing fingering AND i don't think the word's. Fingering
swearing fingering and abusing an old couple trying to get
past them on the BRIDGE i think it's giving them
the fingers as the adjective for, that and two kids

(28:51):
throwing stones at baby. Duckling well there you. Go oh,
wait one hundred and eighty, toad if you want to,
talk we took about the social media. BAND i don't
know if everyone actually. Understands, wow, wow nice shot of some.
Plots read these emails, anyway it's twenty away from. Nine
looking forward to what you want to. Say if you

(29:12):
are trying to get. Through there's some lines, available, available available, Available,
yeah lines are open to get in. Touch, yes if
you want to comment on, this get in touch. Seven.
YEAH i think you could look at this a number of.

(29:33):
WAYS i think probably one of the Ways i'm sure
a lot of people have looked at it is that
the technology and what's available is so. Compelling Now i'm
one of three hundred years ago they're thinking of banning
books because children has been their whole time. Reading would
that be the? THING i don't know if that would
be the. Case it could, be BUT i suspect it's probably.

(29:54):
Not but, yeah if you see young people on phones with,
them they're on them the whole, time And i'm sure
that's a. Thing, yeah it looks like it's. Good AND
i didn't follow the all the news, today BUT i
just wonder if that is what's, happening and what do
you think about? That and censoring. Children we're not censoring

(30:19):
but banning stuff for. THEM i know there's some advocates
of democracy and all sorts of things that have made
some fairly good reasons not to ban. IT i just
don't know what they, are but you, Know i'm happy
to consider. Them but there's been a lot of talk
about that. Today you might HAVE i think it was some.

(30:41):
Podcast but whether it's, Happening i'm tirely. Sure but if
you want to comment on that sixteen away from, nine
keep you out dated with the news, too if you
are coming up to state how we want and seeing
this fire three three and twenty two hectares are already,
burnt not caused. Intentionally, yep that's. Happening so three hundred

(31:04):
and twenty two hectares pretty frightening to see that shot
today on the paper With Simon bridges with a. Beard quite,
different isn't. It it's like something off the You needin,
line like Kept Na needin Or Captain. Baines, yes that's the.
Thing you do you leave, politics grow a. BEARD a
few of them have done, That so, yes if you

(31:27):
want to talk about that or anything. ELSE i was
sad about the. Life that was sad about The siamese.
TWINS i think one of them has. Died they're the
ones From Papua New guinea that were flowing To. Australia
that's the latest NEWS i saw with that. One so,
YES i guess it's always something that's probably likely to.
Happen that to A those operations are so, long incredibly

(31:48):
complicated and. Delicate needless to, say but do get in
touch if you want to talk here till. Twelve something
else you want to? Mention, oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty and nine to nine two to, text it's
fourteen away from nine. O'clock twelve's from nine hit or.
Midnight Carlt's, marcus good, Evening good.

Speaker 16 (32:10):
EVENING i just want to make a comment about This
facebook band they're looking at bringing In. Australia it sounds
like a great idea in, theory apart from the fact
that it's like whoever came up with his idea is
overlooking the fact that kids nowadays are smarter than they
are and how are they going to stop them from

(32:33):
just creating fake accounts and getting on To facebook, anyway
no matter what age they. Are how's the band going
to stop that? Happening because if kids really want to
get on.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Paintball do you want me to try an? Answer. Yep
from my, understanding if the media platforms allow people under sixteen,
on then they are liable to be.

Speaker 14 (33:03):
Pen.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Lies AND i suppose pen lies means they might not
be allowed to bread in those countries that would Be
facebook In australia would not be able to operate there
if they allowed under sixteen people, on so it would
be it would be. There the onus would be on
then them to prove that everyone on their site was
over six or sixteen and. Over AND i think they

(33:23):
will be having things like secret. Shoppers you know how
you can't sell cigarettes to. Minors they'll be having people
that were trying to go on social media wh would
be young to catch them. Out that's my understanding about
how it's going to, be which seems quite smart to.

Speaker 16 (33:37):
Me but how would you police it, Though because well.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
You'd police it HOW i, Said there'd be people that
would be, six that would be fourteen trying to get
on social media with their cunning, ways and if they were,
successful you would then Ban facebook from operating in that,
country and that's where they get all their advertising.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Revenue, yeah but it's like a lot.

Speaker 16 (34:01):
Of his online, accounts, websites. Etc just sign up to
it and you just to give a name email.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Address, well you couldn't do that Because facebook would have
to make sure there are sixteen otherwise they would have
very serious fines or they would be revoked their permission
to operate in that. Country, yeah but.

Speaker 16 (34:22):
That's that's my. Question how would they actually know that
the person they're talking, To how would they know what
a how would you go about?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Buildings the person themselves would know what age they, are
and if they managed to get, on they'll alert the
authorities and, say, Look i've got on this And i'm only.
FOURTEEN i think there was a special that they talked about.
Us it's been quite there's been big discussions about that
about how it will be.

Speaker 16 (34:45):
Enforced, okay it'll be interesting to see how will it.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Go and that's everyone's watching because but they've said that
if it's, successful everyone else in the world will. Follow but,
yeah it's a test. Case and no one knows how,
to but that's what they've. Said government says we take
it quite seriously and seem to have people around the
world respond to it. Too eight away from. Nine you
might know more about. This get in. Touch it's six

(35:13):
away from. Nine. Susan It's. Marcus good. Evening sorry bad
push for, Me, Susan, susan It's marcus good, evening good.

Speaker 17 (35:23):
Evening can you hear?

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Me allowed and clear.

Speaker 17 (35:25):
RECEIVING i just thought i'd run BECAUSE i see people
have been asking about what's behind, this And i'm a,
Researcher i'm into well, being AND i belong to an
organization Called Public Health. Australia and it would be well
over a year ago they were having a seminar WHICH

(35:45):
i THOUGHT i would, Attend and what happened at the
seminar was that a group Of australian professors had been
employed to look at the impact of cell phones and
social media on young, people AND i will tell you
it was really really. Interesting, basically what they should, was

(36:07):
if people continue to have young people on cell phones
and social, Media australia was going to have to play
somewhere between thirty to forty percent more for mental health
services for the young. People so the damage to people's
mental health is pretty. Incredible another THING i thought people

(36:29):
might be interested to know is one of the things
that people talked about was how people can be traumatized
by what they see. Online so what we've got is
a whole bunch of young people seeing anything you can
get on the internet at the, moment so that can impact.
Them they can be traumatized by. Images they see digital

(36:51):
images just as much as if they were in a car,
accident and so a lot of things that people think
young people can, do, frankly their bones are not able to.
Do for, example they can't always be intican see the
impact of someone being beaten up or raped or something
on social. Media so it was kind of, like if

(37:14):
you care about your young, people you need to. Act
so after that, seminar there was an embardo and then
they announced about a month later they were going to
move towards a cell phone. Band so there's some pretty
serious reasons why parents should be really careful and concerned
about what the kids are acting thing through social media

(37:38):
and their fine.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Really appreciate you putting that so, Succinctly, susan thanks so.
Much for That, Hello Berrio's marcus good?

Speaker 6 (37:44):
Evening oh, yeah can you hear?

Speaker 18 (37:47):
Me?

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Receiving oh.

Speaker 19 (37:49):
Okay so how they will be able to make it
so young people are not on social? Media first, off
when you sign up to social, media the champ's conditions
means that they can read all the messages and all the. Communications,
secondly it's the language and the terms of that they're.
Use for, example six to. Seven what sort of forty
year old is going to be using six to seven
in them? Messages so it all now depends on the
messages the top of what they're. Saying it's very easy

(38:11):
to track when someone is young or someone is, old
from text messaging styles to what they look, at the
subjects they chat. About it's very easy to. Depict i'm
a app, developer and it's easy to tell when someone
is whatever.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Age, okay so that's. That WOULD i presume THAT ai is?

Speaker 5 (38:27):
It?

Speaker 19 (38:28):
No the well could be, multiple multiple factors of ways
to be able to, detect but it's just the fact
that the content or what they're talking about will give
away what age they. Are six seven for, example what
forty year old's messaging six to?

Speaker 14 (38:41):
Seven you know WHAT i?

Speaker 19 (38:42):
Mean it's right, there very easy to.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Track appreciate, That, barry thank you so much for. That
continue the, Discussion, well continue on your, input but, YEAH
i think it's. Good oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
nine to text you want to come, Through, marcus longtime.

(39:05):
LISTENER a SONG i like Is christmas And New zealand
By Dennis. Marsh my late wife was a Ceed Good
christmas from the heart by a much years. Ago we
still Placked. Christmas these songs are on. YouTube Merry christmas
to you or your. Family regards, given lovely to hear from, You.
Kevin we are talking about the need for the social
media band In New. Zealand it's been a fear. Discussion

(39:25):
if you've got any, input that's the plan, tonight particularly if.

Speaker 20 (39:29):
You have.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Any stories from your own situation and how that has
impacted your. CHILDREN i, mean nothing too, grim, obviously BUT
i don't think anyone's going to bring up and say
that social media has revolutionized your child's. Life but MAYBE

(39:55):
i shouldn't re ask What i'm going to, Hear. Marcus
the violence ON tv is pretty. Awful are they going
to ban sixteen year olds FROM? Tv And? Netflix? NO
i don't think they. WILL i don't think that's a
very valid. Thing it's not just about the violence that's on.
It it's about The it's about the social pressures that

(40:18):
come from a platform Like facebook where you have friends
and all that sort of, stuff and the stress that
comes with. It it's about people's mental. Health becau's not
something you sit down and watch LIKE. Tv it's doing
and throwing. This but you, know, yeah if you're watching

(40:41):
if you're Watching Emmadale farm ON tv and it's got
some grim, situation all, right that's okay because the person
in the grim situation there's not going to come to
your feeds and start personally attacking. You it's two. Way
BUT i feel like over having to explain this to,

(41:05):
people that was quite. Obvious so people are sending some
deliberately kind of mischievous text with its. Phone Marcus a
reported To The guardian and investigated social media with. Children
found most kids said to be happy not to use

(41:26):
social media if all their friends weren't using it. Too
they said it was too stressful using and they need
to use it because you're weird not to use. It that's,
right there's huge could you, know could just want to.
BELONG i don't want.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
To be The.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Fricks there's what to do what everyone else. Does everyone's
on cell. Phones they want cell. Phones, MARCUS i think
it's a great idea to get our young ones off the.
Internet they are getting very, obese and obesity is. Everywhere

(41:59):
marcus had definitely tried Banning, box not because children might read,
them because women might might start having independent. Thoughts i'm
not aware of batting books for, women but, YEAH i
can understand. That oh and they're still doing, THAT i,
Suppose and sometimes anyway comes if you want to talk about,
This oh, wait hundred eighty teny and nine two ninety

(42:19):
two to text and also differ between A christmas song
and A christmas. Carol there are two of the. Topics oh,
wait hundred eighty ten eighty and nine two.

Speaker 9 (42:28):
Nine.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
YEAH i still think there's plenty of good stuff to
say about this whole thing with social. Media i'm sure
plenty of people want it to be banned for. ADULTS
i don't know if women were banned from. Reading maybe they.
Were i'm just trying to quickly do a quick google on.
THAT i don't know how successful the band was, Anyway

(42:54):
hit'll twelve do you want to be a part of?
It anything else you want to go on about that
would be good to hear from. You it's eleven past.
Nine good, Evening. Alison this Is Marcus. Welcome, hello just.

Speaker 18 (43:07):
You they have these grizzly storylines in the middle of the,
afternoon at. LUNCHTIME i don't think it's terrible to have
that in that time and the. Day yet they put
other programs on later at, nighttime not nearly as bad
as those. Ones they're show in the. Afternoons is really?

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Grim is?

Speaker 16 (43:22):
It?

Speaker 21 (43:23):
Well very?

Speaker 18 (43:24):
Grim? Oh, yes people club, clubbing people over The, oh
it's just awful. STUFF i don't actually watch, it BUT
i turned The telly on to see what's, on and
there's always grizzly stuff on.

Speaker 16 (43:33):
IT i JUST.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I just thought it was Farming Jolly jake's behind Stone.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
Walls, No, no it's.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Not it used to.

Speaker 18 (43:41):
BE i think it used to be like, that but
it's all. Changed and yet the likes Of, neighbors The australian,
program no grizzly storylines on, that and the final Episode
forever on This, friday and that's finishing up now after forty,
Years SO i think that's that's, poor you know WHAT i.
Mean that is a very good. Program. Yeah, Neighbors, well the.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Neighbors died and they brought it, back didn't they remember?

Speaker 18 (44:02):
That, yeah that's. Right, yeah But i'm finishing up. Audio
there's the final for. Now that's something up the. Street.

Speaker 10 (44:09):
Yeah was the brought back?

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Version? Okay was?

Speaker 18 (44:12):
It?

Speaker 6 (44:13):
Well?

Speaker 18 (44:14):
Yes oh, YES i got the other. One, well when
it came, back it was funny at the start of.
It when it came back AND i thought this was,
ridiculous AND i THOUGHT i won't bother watching, this and people, Said,
okay don't, worry don't, worry it'll get. Better and you,
said did get better after, that and it's come back
to being good. Now, yes but they're finishing off the
whole thing now and they're going to sell the street

(44:35):
and move in the. Apartment is all going to be finished,
completely the whole. Thing, yeah but wound up with what you'd, say.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Sure, Okay emadel goes On, Ellison, THANKS i appreciate. That
thirteen past. Nine if you've got, inputs that's what we
want tonight on. This social media has destroyed. Children they've
forgotten how to react with one. Another, now wonder, somebody

(45:03):
you'll have mental. Issues kids have forgot how to communicate
without social Media From Chris.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
Love the.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Show has there been more crank callers of? Late it
feels like their hairs or AM i becoming more aware of?

Speaker 10 (45:13):
It?

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Now about time the Awful New zealand soap finished, Up.
Marcus you know WHAT i say ABOUT, Tv no one's
forced to watch. It what sort of sick person would
be upset About Shortland street after all these? Years to
think of the number of actors it said it to
the stratosphere around the around the. World but, yeah why

(45:37):
would anyone be opposed to? THAT i don't know the
answer to. That i'm just asking that, rhetorically not. RHETORICALLY
i don't know what the what the answer to that.
Is but if you want to talk on, air that's the.
Plans dan fourteen past, Eight, richard It's. Marcus good evening
and Welcome Hello.

Speaker 8 (45:56):
MARCUS i Am i'm a bit of an optimist with,
this Or i'm an optimist that this idea is a
good idea and a time did AND i don't have
too much fears about.

Speaker 22 (46:09):
It What i'm afraid about it as all these surrender,
monkeys middle aged surrender monkeys who are talking about how
kids will find a way around. It AND i, mean
the dynamics to me of the situation is THAT i
don't have any children WHO i, am But i've had
a lot to do with young, children nephews and, nieces

(46:31):
and they often tell me things that they don't tell
another and they're smarter than you. Think AND i, MEAN
i don't if you think of your children once this,
thing once it becomes illegal to go On, facebook will
your ten year old want to do?

Speaker 9 (46:45):
IT i doubt, It, oh.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Very, much doubt. IT i don't think it does it
wants to do it anyway.

Speaker 22 (46:51):
Exactly SO i MEAN i THINK i think there's a
lot of people probably don't like going On, facebook but
they do because they're pressurized by. People but now you,
know now you know BECAUSE i, say, oh you're not,
cool you know you're in it or. Whatever AND i
don't think of all the reasons to make them, feel you,

(47:11):
know lessen them by not doing something it's. Illegal and
IF i was a, Father i'd say to my children
if somebody, says, oh you know, what you don't want
to go On?

Speaker 23 (47:23):
Facebook what wronged?

Speaker 22 (47:24):
You And i'd, say there's nothing wrong with. ME i
just want to start my life being a.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Criminal, yeah oh. Yeah AND i think that it's interesting
they've already been pushed back from parents, saying oh, over you,
Know i'm going to do WHAT i can to help,
them to help them get around the. Band but your
parents are quite funny BECAUSE i think parents take some
parents take perverse pride in encouraging their children to do

(47:49):
things before any other. Parents you, know there seems to
be a bit of bravado about, us you, know sort
of been the reckless parent that's not too, uptight that
allows their children to do.

Speaker 22 (48:00):
Things, yeah that's, fine BUT i, mean, WELL.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
I don't know if it, is but that's.

Speaker 24 (48:07):
Fine that.

Speaker 22 (48:08):
Is believe the situation will occur were parents will be
trying to encourage their children to break the. LAW i
just can't see. It so you will never get every
everyone there'll be there will still be kids out there
that will do all those things THAT i have no
absolutely no idea about to get. On but you, KNOW

(48:29):
i think most most you, know young people will respect
that when something's against the, law you don't do. It
the thing THAT i would like to see is something
put in its place that is better than you, know
that doesn't have the issues Around.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Facebook you mean a social media, platform a social media.

Speaker 11 (48:51):
Thing, YEAH i, MEAN i think there's.

Speaker 16 (48:55):
THIS i, MEAN.

Speaker 22 (48:58):
I think WHEN i was, YOUNG i was taught about
what was right. WRONG i didn't need social media to learn.
It but it's been you, Know i've taken that carry
those values with me through, life AND i, think you,
know social media media has been perhaps a bit of
a disruptor to those because you, know there's no there's

(49:20):
nothing to be afraid of in the. Truth what there
is to be afraid of is mister represent mis representations
of what is. True and you know this is probably you,
know one of the, things not all of, it is
to stop young people being exposed to views that are anti,
social you know and. Whatever and SO i think just

(49:45):
stopping that needs to be accompanied by more of a
push to give people the. Right you give people good
though through whatever medium they, can they can do and
it doesn't have to be sort of you, know boring and.
Unity that just needs to you, know tell a different.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
STORY i think that social media ban at school has been.
SUCCESSFUL i think that's been quite, straightforward AND i think
parents and teachers all thought it was about time are
just in some direction from. GOVERNMENT i think that's probably
been quite a good.

Speaker 12 (50:17):
Thing, yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
That's my understanding of, Anyway. Richard but thank you for
that eighteen past. Nine be in touch if you want
to be making something illegal makes kids more likely to want.
IT i don't think that's happened with, vaping that that's
become banned from the under. Aged people aren't doing. It

(50:41):
that's always, True. Marcus what was the bar they went
to in? NEIGHBORS i thought it was, bunnies BUT i
think it's the bar the doctors and nurse and the
young doctors went. To was there a bar in? Neighbors
it's the water?

Speaker 5 (50:58):
Hole is?

Speaker 2 (51:01):
It we Had lionel's muffins the water hole or? Lessitters,
oh the water hole was part of. Less it is
Less it is supposed to be that fictitious gold bearing
reef In australia or the bar and. Neighbors be in
touch if you want to join the. Fray marcus till

(51:22):
twelve oh eight, Hundreds you know the. Rest keep you
updated when that. Happens people, News you've got to let
us know what you've got where you, are oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty nine nine two detect if you
want to come through be nice to hear from you social,

(51:45):
media but particularly if you've got, examples BECAUSE i think
people probably need TO i think probably people need to
have explained to them what some of the negative effects
from thirteen fourteen year olds having social? Media what are
some of the negative consequences of. That that's probably where
were THERE i need to probably focus into a little
bit BECAUSE i think we've probably got people out there

(52:10):
that have had some experience with that in their, family
and that would be of interest to me. Certainly now
if you have other, stuff there are topics you want
to mention. Also so we know it's going to be
ON tv the In Christmas, day yet that's alwaysn't eagerly.
ANTICIPATED i don't think we've got that, yet BUT i

(52:30):
don't know why it can't be far away because bearing
in mind they can make. Money we mightn't get touch
dross this year because there ARE tv commercials On Christmas,
day so they will be making. Money so there might
be some that might be some motivation for them to
put on things people want to. Watch you thought of
that could be a very very good. Thing twenty one

(52:50):
past nine nine twenty three here till twelve. Tonight the
people Of New zealand welcome if you want to be
a part of the discussion that's encouraged. Tonight you've got
something to say about social media. Band the talk is
it's going to happen In New zealand AND i don't
see much pushback from. THAT i don't see people being

(53:14):
opposed to. That BUT i am keen to discuss at
romance long after twelve. Tonight, also just if WY i.
Too THE Fifa World cup drawer has Been we're in
the drawer With, Belgium egypt And. Iran, goodness, yeah all
very close. Together countries competed to the rest of the,
world aren't. They In australia's is under. Sixteen social media

(53:35):
band comes with affect, tomorrow though many sites and apps
have very implemented age. CONTROL i Think facebook they will
store your data till it comes. Sixteen, Yep so be
a part of. That so get in touch if these
are things you want to talk. About social media is

(53:59):
the main topic for tonight and that's the. Plan so, Yes,
steve It's marcus good evening Near.

Speaker 25 (54:08):
MARCUS i don't know Whether i've put myself into a
unique situation, Here But i've got a widespread of. Children
i've got a preteen son just, preteen and there's. Twelve
i've got a middle aged teen son who's created mid.
Teens And i've got a daughter who's in her mid.
Twenties but she's an intermediate school, teacher so she certainly

(54:30):
has a lot of connection with those age. GROUPS i don't,
Know i've never seen a list defining what they talk
about of social. MEDIA i, mean it's a broad, term
but are we if we talk specific. PLATFORMS i realized
that WHILST i say those three children THAT i, have
it's still a very very small. Slice But, Facebook facebook's.

(54:53):
Uncool they don't want to be On. Facebook kids that
age aren't On. Facebook their parents are On. Facebook they
don't want to be On. Facebook there's keyboard warriors out
there in their, thirties, forties, fifties and sixties putting horrific
posts at each other and scathing off at one. Another
it's not teenagers and it's not. Kids TikTok is a
platform that they're all, on but that's not a messaging

(55:14):
hate one, another horrific sort of. Stuff but YouTube is
just as. Damaging if you dive into it and see
all the influences and things and some stupid rubbish that
they do and everyone copies. It if there was one
platform That i'd love to see banned AND i can't
see the need nor the purpose for, it would Be.
Snapchat show me a reason why you have to have
a platform whose sole purpose is to send a message

(55:38):
under anonymity that once it's, read it's disappeared. Forever the
damage has already been, done the recipient's already read, it
and you've got no proof it was ever.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Existing the platforms that will be banned Are, Facebook, Instagram
kick Read, It, Snaper, Chat, threads, TikTok twitch x and.
YouTube those that won't be Banned, Discord, messenger pin to rest, Roblocks,

(56:10):
WhatsApp and. YouTube.

Speaker 25 (56:12):
Kids, well from that, LIST i would say THAT i
HAVE i have seen and heard from the Experience i've
just given you On messenger THAN i have On. Facebook
of that age group you.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Just cut out of, one would you just Said, Messenger.

Speaker 25 (56:32):
SORRY i was just. Saying from that, LIST i would
say THAT i would Say MESSENGER i have seen and
heard from the experiences doing more damage Than. Facebook these
these age bracket kids aren't On. Facebook it's their. Parents
just one person's, opinion but pretty pretty big slice of

(56:54):
teen and preteen they're.

Speaker 14 (56:56):
For you to look.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
AT i guess if they're benning some they can actually
keep a watching brief on benning other.

Speaker 25 (57:01):
Stuff, Yeah i'm certainly in an agreement.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
THAT i don't want to sound. Ignorant but as, Messenger
facebook messenger is it something.

Speaker 25 (57:10):
Different, No Facebook messenger is, messenger but there is a messenger.

Speaker 26 (57:15):
Kids so there is a occasion of.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
The okay and a message anything like, messengers you could,
actually you, know you could take school yard. Bullying you
could start bullying children at. Midnight you could be texting
them in the house On messenger and, saying you, know
we're going to kill you tomorrow when no one likes,
you or you got to. Cut you've got a funny
cut of. Jeen SO i don't know what people bully

(57:37):
people are about these. Days it's probably changed into my.
Day yeah he cut down here cuts upside down or.

Speaker 25 (57:42):
Something WHAT i can say is that my seventeen year
old and all his friends can walk around high school
and use their phones like there's no. Tomorrow they're not
policed in any, way shape or. Form but WHEN i asked.
THEM i don't know WHETHER i should say holidays, anyway
it's south Of auckland and when you.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
When you, are that'll be that'll be One Tree Hill. College.
YEAH i also can not order. CHIP i CAN i
can talk out WHAT i can.

Speaker 14 (58:13):
Say.

Speaker 25 (58:15):
Sorry WHAT i can say is that WHEN i asked about,
it he told me that they definitely policed the younger.
Age okay at the.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
School, okay that's fair. Enough, YEAH i appreciate. That thank, You. Steve, ahhh,
yep it'd be fine with a with a pager, anyway
get in touch on a. Talk enjoying. This i'm finding
we're getting some good information and long way this discussion

(58:44):
last eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine two
nine text kids he?

Speaker 13 (58:51):
Have he had?

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Three did?

Speaker 10 (58:52):
He?

Speaker 2 (58:52):
One, twelve one seventeen and one at intermediate school as a.
TEACHER i think who's the mid. TWENTIES i think that's
heard that one, Right just trying to recap that. One
it's very good cross. Section so that's what we're on
about tonight till. Twelve but any we might do a
topic topic. PIVOT i would like to be sitting here

(59:15):
watching the, ashes but clearly that finished a day. Short.
Terrible someone says TikTok perfect, example latest craze getting burned
in the. Sun go, Figure, yeah that's. Crazy, ah how
are we doing? THAT i can see that could be
a TikTok.

Speaker 9 (59:31):
Thing.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Unbelievable. Marcus, Hi. Marcus my two daughters haven't been exposed
to much social, media, thankfully they have had to endure
a lot Of marcus Lash night's podcasts due to their parents'.
ADDICTION i worry for those, kids as DO i thank
you for. That the, kids the young KIDS i, know

(59:52):
are all On discord and they Hate facebook and they
don't have. TikTok they use. YouTube, YEAH i don't know
What discord.

Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
Is i'm not on.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
It i'm not on. TikTok and DO i miss? That
not for what DO i miss? THAT i don't know
What i'm missing, Actually.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
But, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
And less and less on all of. Them, actually for
no real. REASON i do find the technology pretty. Compelling
that's what we are discussing. Tonight you might have your
own parenting experience with, that and whether you're for or

(01:00:42):
against this social media. Band it's happening in, Tomorrow it's
happening In. Australia, Tomorrow. Marcus the most toxic social media
was The New age And Spirituality. Board on trade me
the people absolutely all ford will try and track you
down by making fake buy now to get your. Details Shocking.
Hindi it's once upon a. TIME i went to, FAITH

(01:01:05):
i went to trade me. Chat is it still a?
Thing AND i think WHEN i first started the show ended.
Up someone sent me some threads on trade. TRADE i
don't even know if it was a. THING i couldn't
believe what people were. Saying not all it was? Charitable
is that no longer a?

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Thing?

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Dan did they get rid of? That it was a
little bit ten years? Ago was that was?

Speaker 27 (01:01:28):
That that?

Speaker 11 (01:01:28):
WAS i don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Why, YES i don't know what happened to. IT i
guess they probably thought it was a wor it went.

Speaker 14 (01:01:34):
Off.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
YEAH i don't know if they close it down or
what happened with, that but it got pretty. Spicy, yeah
you go google yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
In some of those.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Comics go with the cheapest. Creepers what will happen now
is the kids will seek out companionship THROUGH ai, bots
WHICH i convincing children not communicate with their parents and
in some cases commit, suicide said he cheer's whirlsal your
ais probably. Are no one knows quite what happened WITH,

(01:02:04):
ai do. They i've seen SOME ai Generated christmas. Cards they're,
challenging really challenging to watch those going, around a lot
of bad, things the weird. Thing welcome to twelve if you're,

(01:02:24):
welcome hitdle twelve if you want to come, Through oh
WAY a one hundred and Eighty teddy and nine two
nine to de. Text it's social, media the media that is,
social whereas they should call it. Antisocial now it's twenty
six to, ten still light out. There you'll be pleased to. Know,

(01:02:49):
yeah and text if you. CAN i don't. KNOW i
just thought messenger was part of face and there's anything called.
Messenger found that quite. Interesting learning a lot what they
never talk, about, banning, banning talkback next. Morn i've been talked,
back exchange of free. Ideas but. Discord discord doesn't sound

(01:03:16):
like a good, thing does. It discord sounds like a
role playing. Game maybe it. Is Brendan, marcus, Welcome how are, You, Marcus,
Brendan i'm, good thank. You i'm looking forward to. Them
i'm looking forward to your three.

Speaker 14 (01:03:30):
Daughters three daughters are, fifteen seventeen and. Nineteen, wow three three,
Daughters AND i just wondered this YouTube. Limitation is that
to the age of twelve or fourteen or what age
is that they can only watch.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Kids YouTube under?

Speaker 14 (01:03:48):
Sixteen i'm, sixteen, okay so it'll affect one of my.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Children how old are they?

Speaker 14 (01:03:53):
Again Well filipino Actually, marcus.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Yes that? Right but they are are? They are they
In New? Zealand?

Speaker 14 (01:04:05):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
YEAH i don't know when it's. Coming the band starts
to row In. Australia they're only talking about it In New,
zealand BUT i don't know when that will. Happen probably
probably sixteen by the time that.

Speaker 14 (01:04:18):
HAPPENS i should probably be sixteen by the.

Speaker 5 (01:04:21):
Time, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay but.

Speaker 14 (01:04:28):
There's did you say there's ten other apps that they can.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
USE i don't THINK i said. THAT i think there
are other apps they can, use the ones that will be, banned, Right.

Speaker 5 (01:04:38):
YEAH.

Speaker 8 (01:04:40):
I.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
DIDN'T i, DIDN'T.

Speaker 22 (01:04:44):
I.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
DIDN'T i didn't ring fence. It i'll just try and
find the names of What, Facebook, Instagram, Kick, Reddit, snapper chat, threads,
TikTok switch x and. YouTube but the ones you can
still use, Discord, Messenger, pinterest, Roblocks WhatsApp and YouTube. Kids

(01:05:08):
oh so, yeah yeah, Interesting, yeah it's just, right, yeah,
yeah it's all. Interesting, brendan thank. You twenty three to.
Ten it's twenty one away from ten. O'CLOCK i guess
some of you will be looking forward to watching The yeshes.
TONIGHT i don't think Beas ball's going to be a
how much longer is? IT i Think brendan McCowan be

(01:05:29):
the coach after, well after the Next. TEST i wouldn't
imagine there's something very different happens you'd worry about being
THE i, mean, goodness gracious, me the trouble with cricket In.
England there's all those et commentators are interviewed and have
so many. Opinions, ANYWAY i watched with that last. NIGHT i, surprised,
well wasn't. Surprised it was incredibly predictable what, happened.

Speaker 12 (01:05:53):
BUT i THINK i.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
MISUNDERSTOOD i think the next test is the is the
boxing day, one so at least they've still got a,
chance ALTHOUGH i think probably things shill go that The
stranger will go three. Nil once upon a, time tests
were always, draws.

Speaker 6 (01:06:09):
But not in this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Series we're two at the social media band that happens
In australia To, morron and there's been talk that will
happen In New zealand before too. Long it seems Like
Erica stanford is keen for it to. Happen but, yeah
you might want to mention whether you think that's got

(01:06:31):
a bad. Idea WHAT i found from when this was
first moveded In australia is the first response, Was, oh
that's not going to. Happen that's been going to be
impossible to. Enforce but it seems like the way The
aussies have gone and it's got a fairly good chance of. Happening.
Yep so that's, right that's. Happening do you want to mention?

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
That?

Speaker 14 (01:06:55):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Oh eight hundred eighty eighty and nine to nine two to,
Text so if you want to come through about, that
let's be hearing from. It all the lines. Are it's
nineteen away from ten, o'clock but with you till. Twelve
and As i've, said that romance along at midnight. Tonight so,
yes feels like we're into the holiday. Mode didn't it?

(01:07:17):
Early but, yeah and that's always what happened this time
of the. Year it's sort of the talk about changes a.
Bit but if there's some of these discussions you want to,
Have i'm up for. It so eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty and nine nine two de. Text if you
want to talk about social media in sixteen and your
experience with perhaps with the problems that children, FACE i

(01:07:37):
think your parent these days will have gone through some of.
THAT i don't know what happened on the trade me
message boards, either if someone's got some it was just
too problematic for. Them did they just get rid of
it because they've got pretty they've got pretty esoteric and
people are talking about, discord WHICH i don't. Know of,
course other ones will come and go that will need

(01:07:58):
to be, banned and some websites will fall out of.
Favor WEBSITES i suppose you call them, maps not. Websites
that sounds but old, fashioned doesn't, It. MARCUS i think
social media drains and dolphins too quick out of. Children
so during the low period they experienced anxiety and even.
Depression but the latest TikTok crase getting burnt in the.

(01:08:20):
Sun don't know how you stop that. Idiocy but, yes
eighteen away from ten o'clock back after the break sixteen
to Ten, Hello, Tyler It's Marcus.

Speaker 9 (01:08:31):
Welcome, Yeah hi, There, Hey.

Speaker 13 (01:08:35):
Hi.

Speaker 27 (01:08:36):
Tyler, HI i just went away in my two cents
on the social. Media i'm twenty, eight SO i grew
up kind of going. Through my first social media Was,
facebook going through teenage, years and then Onto snapchat And
instagram and then Now i'm too lord for TikTok and

(01:09:00):
all the new ones coming in and So instagram's my
my thing at the. Moment but, YEAH i. RECKON i,
mean it consumed you as a, Teenager SO i, reckon
if you can delay as much as, possible that's that's
the best.

Speaker 9 (01:09:16):
Thing what were the?

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Concerns what what was the downside of?

Speaker 8 (01:09:19):
It?

Speaker 27 (01:09:19):
Tyler, OH i MEAN i then speak from from being
a teenage boy during that, time and THAT i know
you definitely content that sticks out the most is, well
females use their bodies to to to get, popular AND

(01:09:40):
i know as a young teenage, boy that, definitely you,
know sparks out and is what gets your. Interest and
it's a lot easier nowadays to see all that and
that's what gets people. Popular and so, yeah that's a
big downside to the social media and and all these
platforms is just how. Innocent it makes people from an early.

(01:10:02):
AGE i, reckon were you?

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
On were you On?

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Facebook from? Thirteen is that what age though? Getting BECAUSE
i think we're supposed to be, sixteen but that seemed
that just seemed to become a, yeah so you're on
at school from? Thirteen Oh, NO i think.

Speaker 27 (01:10:15):
Just with my, age with what it came out is
MAYBE i was more fifteen, Sixteen BUT i just known
that nowadays that you can get on like That snapchat and.
Stuff i've got young cousins on super Super, Young SO
i don't think from my generation we were on two
young because it was only all just sort of popping

(01:10:36):
off at that. Time but, NOWADAYS i Know i've got
a lot of younger cousins and family friends that are
definitely on all those sorts of.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Things, here nice to talk kind of thanks so much
That chris good.

Speaker 23 (01:10:49):
Evening, hey Ya's marcus.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Good Thanks.

Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
Chris.

Speaker 23 (01:10:54):
Yeah are we getting into a bit of an any
safe situation there with social media beings and stuff like?

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
That, WELL i guess there's all sorts of. Things things
that you've been children. FROM i guess you've been them
from tobacco and. Alcohol so is it in any state.

Speaker 23 (01:11:14):
Probably, No, NO i agree with those, things that's. Right,
Yeah but social, MEDIA i mean we're getting into a
bit of a gray area. HERE i mean there's YouTube for,
kids which is great for, kids has been has been
seen to been good for development of the kids and

(01:11:36):
stuff like. That, YEAH i JUST i just feel like
it's a bit too far fetched my. Opinion, WELL i.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Guess they have a chance to see how it goes In. Australia,
also we're not the first any, stretch because we're not
the country the last things first. Anymore SO i think we.

Speaker 23 (01:11:52):
Need to wait and. See don't don't jump the, Bullet
just wait and See williams And assy and it works
out over there then, yet so be. It but don't
jump the ballat that's don't jump the, gun that's WHAT i.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Mean, yeah appreciate, That, chris thank, You. Grant good, Evening,
well hollow grand It's marcus good.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Evening, yeah, Sorry marcus didn't quite hear the first. Time, Yeah,
basball to, me it's gone too. Far the other way
with The english betting and that he seems to have
got the better is to adopt the approach that no
matter what the, situation no matter what the pitch is,

(01:12:42):
like you, know try and play it like a twenty twenty.
Game and there's some of the shots that the bets
The english batsmen are going out so big swipes that
side the off stump and in court it called it. Slip.
NOW i don't know how long he's got left on his.
CONTRACT i don't think he would be sacked sort of
mid tour In, australia but depending on how much money

(01:13:05):
they've got, us they need to pay him out by
the end of the. Tour unless as a dramatic turnaround
and The english win three, TOO i think that he
could be.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Gone goshould be exciting if they did with the next.
Two that would be a dream for everyone because we
want tests to go for five, days we want five
tests to. Matter but STILL i THINK i think it
is wishful.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Thinking, yeah, YEAH i, mean, certainly the way before McCallum took,
over the Way england were batting was too. Slow they were,
dreadful you, know they couldn't even get decent. Totals and
LIKE i, said in my, opinion he's just gone too
far the other. Way so maybe it certainly seems to

(01:13:50):
think that he won't, change but he does have some
rather interesting. EXCUSES i, mean all of the touring Former
english players have been claiming that The english team is
not training. Enough they seemed to be playing golf more
than their training of this. Test mcallam, says or maybe
we've been training too.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Hard AND i can't work out why baseball, itself why
you can't have you, know why it can't be more
flexible as a style of, play because certainly that could
be a style you could play with the pictures pitch
suit you when you're you, know and you're going to
win with that. Way but also you'd have to, yeah you,

(01:14:30):
know don't want to. Test you need to play all
sorts of different. Cricket you need to have periods where
you just sort of score low runs but don't go
out for a long length of time to dead in
the ball and all sorts of. Stuff you, KNOW i
just thought it seems to be a very inflexible form of.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
Cricket, yeah it's just the one style of no matter
what the pitch, conditions watch the, mets, yes what the
match conditions, are and, YEAH i mean it's to me
what is needed is just not you, know if quick
runs are needed and the pitch of, suitable go for quick.
Runs it's the pit firing all over the place and

(01:15:08):
you're trying to save the. Match don't try and have
any revall for.

Speaker 9 (01:15:11):
Sex no.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Beca it's a subtle, game isn't. IT i, mean cricket's
a subtle. Game that's WHY i think it's.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
Weird.

Speaker 9 (01:15:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
Yeah and just to finish off on a note about
The New. Zealand do we have many fast falls least
In New? Zealand but it appears that we actually do
because it's soon another one or two four over. Then
oh we've got the solid that no one's who are
heard of and this fellow and they've been playing well

(01:15:39):
for The zealand, ay so we're putting them in so
hopefully they'll do.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Well nice to, talk thanks so, Much grant nine away
from ten oh, four just five away from ten, O'clock
romance from twelve And i'm here until. Then, now if
there is something that you want to talk about on
air or express your views, about we're talking about the
ban on social media that's happening In australia from tomorrow
for under six people under, sixteen and the words will

(01:16:05):
probably happen In New zealand's that's a good thing or
a bad. Thing AND i guess you'd wait to see
how it works In. Australia AND i imagine if it
Works australia would work. Here wouldn't it very similar, countries
although they might be a government that's slightly more keen
to stand up to some of the big Company, WELL

(01:16:28):
i guess it the Mainly american. COMPANIES i Guess TikTok's.
CHINESE i think all the others probably Are. American not
guaranteed with that, one but that's what we'rerng. About so
and some of your experience with social media and why
it there's so damaging for people at that, age and
they do there's no doubt that people in the mental
health field do say that it's for every damaging AND

(01:16:53):
i don't think they'd make that stuff. UP i don't
think to, say oh it's, damaging it wasn't, damaging or
it was. DAMAGING i think that's that seems to. Be
there seems to be unanimity about, that and also there
seems to be there seems to be a fair amount
of amazement in a company Like facebook would know that
there was causing so much damage but they are prepared

(01:17:16):
to commit to making profit and not too concerned about the.
Consequences but, famously a lot of the people involved In
Silicon valley with apps and development of apps are the
ones that certainly their children will go nowhere near cell
phones and have exposure to. That is that true or?
PROPHECAL i believe that is. True not much MORE i
can say with, that because all the details with. Me but,

(01:17:38):
yeah if you want to mention that, also they'd be
good to hear from. You and then we'll go into
the next. HOUR i started off by discussing Doing christmas
carols And christmas. Songs you might want to talk about that,
also which shong is? BOTH i think A christmas carol

(01:17:59):
is about the event Of, christmas which is the birth Of. Jesus,
Now i'm often say at this time of the, Yeir
i'm not quite. SURE i give ulf of trouble saying
why they Know easter. Songs BUT i Guess easter is
not a time for. Celebration but you think there'd be,
songs would? You BUT i don't know One easter. SONG
i can't think of An easter, song maybe even going

(01:18:21):
to the wrong, Places but, yes, no songs For, ester
But christmas a lot of. SONGS i guess one. Celebration
one is, WELL i guess a time of Celebration. EASTER
i guess in some ways it. Is but you might
want to get into the subtleties of. That that might
be all the more for the. Theologians i'm not opposed
to going to that territory. Tonight. Yep so if you

(01:18:43):
want to be a part of the discussion for the next,
hour give a holler during the news and if you've
got any breaking news where you. Are was it really
a year this year with a lot of breaking news
happened on the nighttime. Show for some years it was
happening all the. Time don't know why that. Is can't
work it. Out we'll tell you. What i'm always one
for the clack. Song i'm always wanted a breaking news.

(01:19:03):
Thing but you've required this year at night a good
thing because normally it's bad. News but, yes haven't had it,
quake so that. Stuff nothing much happened on this.

Speaker 5 (01:19:12):
Show so.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
That means it's more likely to happen in the days to,
come or less likely to. Happen probably not good to.
Speculate we are talking phones and social, media AND i
guess it's a big discussion BECAUSE i think what hasn't been.
Said people say it's not a cell phone. Ban but
if these apps aren't on the, phone the kids won't

(01:19:38):
want the. Phone they've got no use for. It so
that's WHAT i think the question. Is so you might
want to discuss. This i've got a pretty interesting email, Here,
marcus having listened to a show for many years and
TONIGHT i feel the need to contact and share my
thoughts with. You the biggest mistake we made is letting
our thirteen year old have a. Phone back in the,

(01:19:58):
day we gave her a phone For christmas for all
the reasons i've heard people rigging in tonight, saying and
we were sensible. Parents she was a good, kid and
all that went out the. Window it brought the outside
world into our home and changed. Everything trust, me but
getting a phone off the kids getting off put getting
a phone off for the kids as long as. Possible
her life, changed and not for the. Better in our life.

(01:20:20):
Changed they don't need, them and people who think they
have a handle on it have no. IDEA i now
have a sweet ten year old granddaughter wanting a phone For,
christmas AND i, say don't do. It it's the outside
world coming to your family, home not in a good.
Way you have no, control even you think you. Do
my advice put it off for as long as. Possible marcus.
APOLOGIES i was wanting to comment BY i tuned in

(01:20:41):
too late and it was midnight BEFORE i knew. It,
anyway during the time of the flag, REFERENDUM i made
my own flag using The New zealand flag and some
of The United tribes flag over The union jack and
foll outside my house up here on The Cuddy Cuddy.
Peninsula as you can see the photo. ATTACHED i had
long advocated for a new natural. Fleets it's the, sixties
which is a young seaman and anchor Of singapore waiting
to birth amongst nearly one hundred other. Vessels when you

(01:21:03):
look the other ships of the world with the, knoclars The, European, Japanese, Chinese,
russian and some others were instantly, recognized but The english
individual ships from comal countries were difficult to distinguished from
each other unless you knew the funnel colors of the
companies they belonged. To all had the jack and were
red and about all you could see for distance. ANYWAY
i THINK i could have saved the country twenty three
million or whatever If John ky had ventured up this

(01:21:24):
way regards inn from the looks good to by the
Way United tribes over The. Union yeck with the four,
stars that's something. Too so that's the two of the
emails that have come. Through plenty of texts and your
calls if you're up for, them if you got. Them
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine nine two to.

(01:21:46):
Text marcus Is Mary's Boy child by boney em A
Christmas carol song or? BOTH i think it might be.
Both i'll tell you what it. Is it's a Banger Mary's?
Manchild is that? Mirror Or Mary's Boy mary's boy, Child
mary's Boy? Child it was a Very what was the

(01:22:08):
story with Bony?

Speaker 9 (01:22:09):
M were?

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
They but like BELIEVE i think it. WAS i think
they were themselves victims and all this Bony. M i
don't know what the scandal. WAS i think they were lip,
sinkers weren't. They they Were german From German German's German,
mauritius were? THEY i think? So, yes it's a it's
a it's a mesh. Up of a carol and A
christmas song long time ago In Bethley. Hymn so The

(01:22:33):
Holy bible Said mary's boy Child Jesus christ was born
On Christmas. Day then it goes onto a carol bit
and then it comes breaks the third wall and comes
through more as a. Narrative it's good, though isn't.

Speaker 4 (01:22:47):
It?

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Wow, yeah interesting story old Boney. M AND i don't
know what the story, was but, YES i think there's scandal,
there AND i think Involves Milli vanilli as. WELL i

(01:23:10):
think they own the. RIGHT i think they're. Exploited they
just found some extraordinary singers and kind of they it
didn't end. Well they're from monsterret they were. Too but,
yeah don't they got any of the. Money it all

(01:23:30):
went bad, Anyway it's about time at the time that
they always discussed what happened to Bony. M they're probably
still touring to make up the money they. Lost, brian
this Is.

Speaker 21 (01:23:43):
Marcus good, Evening good, Evening, marcus second time call. Good
you Mentioned. Monterirat i'm thinking Pretty. Mercury but, ANYWAY i think.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
It Was zenzibar.

Speaker 5 (01:23:58):
Who where he was.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Born, yes BUT i don't think it Was. Monterret did
you think it Was? Monterrat, No, no but he.

Speaker 21 (01:24:05):
Lived at his final. Based probably they recorded that album
In monsterrat or maybe with that opera singer as. Well,
anyway it's a big.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
It's a big, volcano isn't, It Monster?

Speaker 10 (01:24:20):
Red is that?

Speaker 5 (01:24:21):
Right?

Speaker 21 (01:24:22):
WELL i thought it was an island or. Anyway, anyway
never mind this topic with a small uninformed the children
coming into connect and connectivity with and unruly behaviors on the,

(01:24:47):
INTERNET i Can i'm going from experience. Today that's the
only Reason. CALE i picked the granddaughter from. School we come,
home we do some, drawing we do all. This she
has a, jelly she has a what used to be
an OLD smi but they call them polar.

Speaker 6 (01:25:07):
Pies.

Speaker 21 (01:25:07):
Now, anyway long story, short she had foreign foreign. Class
she's learning another. Language, anyway after the language, SCHOOL i
give her one hour's screen.

Speaker 24 (01:25:22):
Time AND.

Speaker 21 (01:25:26):
I disagree with YouTube for kids because what she was
watching was. Obscene you had this eighteen nineteen year old
girl looking like a twelve year, old spouting out all
sorts of, things which younger of. You my granddad's, five

(01:25:47):
by the, way, five just, five very. Impressionable there's sponges
when they're between three and, five they absorb. It you're still, there, yes, oh, yes, yes. Yes,
anyway long story, short the content on this kid's YouTube

(01:26:09):
program basically suggesting that the daughter of this, person who
was six years, old killed the mother and to inherit
the family. Fortune AND i don't think that's a.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
Proble that sounds that doesn't sound age.

Speaker 12 (01:26:28):
Appropriate and that's on YouTube.

Speaker 21 (01:26:32):
Kids, yeah and so, yeah AND i agree with the
caller before, me or or one before and the. GUY i,
mean the sooner you can't give them a, phone the
better you only you only want them to.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
Which makes me wonder why parents are so keen to
give children, phones and maybe something going on to that, well.

Speaker 21 (01:27:00):
As long as they can only use it for the
use of phone. Calls because the content and out there
is just so accessible and a five year old can
navigate an. iPad i, Mean i'm not technologically what's the, Word.

Speaker 24 (01:27:22):
I'm.

Speaker 7 (01:27:23):
TERRIBLE i.

Speaker 21 (01:27:25):
Can, COOK i can link up a stereo and amplify her,
equipment but as far as internet, Goes i'm. Hopeless and
so the content that is out there, today and these,
youngsters they, ring they do lips around the, parents, yes

(01:27:49):
and So i'm just SAYING i agree with that passport
and one the horse has.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Bolted why did you give her the hour screen?

Speaker 21 (01:27:57):
Time oh well that was to watch, well she's moved
on From, frozen and she's moving on From he's now
moving on From Demon, hunters and then she's on to
the next best thing and she's.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
Five, GOODNESS i would have done an extra hour of.
Drawing but, anyway that's what language is? She what language
is she? Learning? Chinese brilliant nice to, Hear, Brian thank.
You sixteen past ten four. Girls eldest is. Eight i'm
prepared to be hated until each of them are, sixteen
before they get. Phones i'll thank me one. Day, Marry Merry, Christmas.

(01:28:37):
Marcus there are very Few christmas songs my ears can.
Handle Snoopy's Christmas body And Christmas Mariah carey is. Better
all they want For christmas is? You otherwise most remind
me of My catholic primary school. Days Mary's Boy, child
originally sung By Harry bellafonte nineteen sixty. Two thank, You.

(01:29:11):
Marcus in your, opinion when is a good age to
give your child a? Phone i'd say when they're old,
enough when they've made the money, themselves in probably sixteen,
maybe and hopefully then they're interests would have seguet into something.
Else just it just consumes so much. TIME i think

(01:29:35):
if you're trying to foster interest in reading or stuff
like that and then they get on, those it's like
a dunka. Gone it sucks up a lot of. Time
and you only have your childhood. Once and somebody, said
what are? You what was your child? Like, well, actually
most of us on the, phone most of, IT i

(01:29:55):
was just, Scrolling oh has that ever had that work
out for? You, well it was pretty interesting at the,
time and ACTUALLY i don't know if it was a
good thing or. Not probably. Not there'd be my take on.
That that's just my. Advice i'm not a parenting expert

(01:30:17):
by any. Stretch i'd give. Myself i'd give myself three
out of ten for parenting, yep but might have got it.
Wrong get in touch eighteen past. Ten you know what
was that last guy's? Called you know What i'm? Thinking

(01:30:39):
he gave his kid a jelly and then a esquimo
pie now called a polar. PIE i can give the
kid a jelly. TIP i mean that was, it wasn't
It if the jelly tip both bases. Covered who'd give

(01:31:00):
the kid a, jelly a jelly and then a polar.
Pie it's actually not a method called the polar. Pie
that's for. Real now they are called polar. Pies is
that A is THAT pc gone? Mad not, really it's
the same, thing the polar. Pie, WELL i hate to say,

(01:31:22):
it but in its, DAY i don't know when that.
WAS i think probably what a genius name for a
frozen thing will be an. ESCUMO i mean you can
mention the advertising company coming by that it's a, pie esqumo.
Pie that's eat. It this is like a nineteen twenty

(01:31:44):
so it's stund its Stairsh it's seen its. Day eschemo
pie no longer called. That of, Course escubo is never
a food of themselves At. Eschuma so it's but, yes polar.
Pie but, yeah you should have got the kid of jelly.
Tip now we are Talking benning social media for the
under Sixteens australia doing it tomorrow AND i hope it

(01:32:08):
goes seamlessly for. Them they get back to discuss they
get discussing their overheated housing, market which seems to be
the national, obsession and they seem to love doing.

Speaker 21 (01:32:19):
That, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
But i'll tell you, what Watching Old smith on The
ashes yesterday didn't make me feel any better about. Him
what a dislikable character he. Is so that's something you
might want to. Discuss, Also, MARCUS i held out with

(01:32:47):
a mobile till. SIXTEEN i kept telling him wait for
a new. Model you always wanted the latest and had
to pay a portion that slowed things. Down, Marcus my
two girls had cell phone since they were, eight and
a lot of other kids below the age of ten
had to have phone and essential for their. DIABETES i

(01:33:10):
don't know what the answer is for, that but, yeah
there you. Go twenty one past, ten twenty four past, Ten, Hello, Adam.

Speaker 28 (01:33:19):
Hi here's going?

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
Good thank, You.

Speaker 28 (01:33:20):
Adam hey on their kids with iPads and stuff like, that,
RIGHT i don't necessarily think that's a bad thing in.
MODERATION i, Mean i'm a millennimal AND i grew up WATCHING.
TV i just think that the media has, changed, Right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
Yeah, Agreed.

Speaker 28 (01:33:41):
BUT i think at the same, Time i'm saying that
was the last caller and YouTube for, kids it is
absolutely YouTube for kids is one of the worst channels
to have your kids. On and even if you go
through and try to screen they what they're watching and
like delete content so that they can't watch. It there's just,

(01:34:05):
duplicates duplicates of duplicates of the same channel that will
just keep on showing up on your kids screen using
the algorithm that just ends up for essentially brain.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
Rot you wonder when they're going to get sick of watching.

Speaker 28 (01:34:23):
YouTube, well the, CHANNELS i, mean like there's whole documentaries
and that about. Them that with the, channels they are
designed to show sort of flashing lights and that to
get kids.

Speaker 11 (01:34:41):
Helped.

Speaker 28 (01:34:43):
Cocamelan have you ever heard Of? Cocamelan, No i'd like to.
Though cocamelan is something that's On, netflix on, YouTube and
you can find it on other streaming platforms as. Well
they are notorious for showing flashing, lights right color, configurations
cutting are seen at a certain point to keep children

(01:35:07):
engaged for the longest amount of possible and like the
longest amount of time. Possible that's absolutely. Crazy there's a
big industry at.

Speaker 20 (01:35:14):
IT i, mean.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
You, know it's, everywhere, right even the content the content
they adults can sure have similar sort of things on.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
Them oh doesn't sound.

Speaker 28 (01:35:28):
Good, yeah that's ALL i had to.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
Say, ANYWAY i appreciate you saying, That, adam thanks very
much for. That seven past Teen David's, marcus good.

Speaker 14 (01:35:38):
Evening there you are the finishing.

Speaker 13 (01:35:41):
Knobs is it's a bit ALL i know about. That
Not camella And Freddie mercury Sang, barcelona one of my favorite,
songs so that's maybe the.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
Connection With, yes that was the name of the. Singer, Yes,
yes she was.

Speaker 13 (01:35:56):
A famous opera. Singer engineers worked well With Freddy mercury On.
Barcelona is now warm day here in christ it is
warmer tomorrow and warming up towards the end of the
week when we're going to have a sutherly front comes
through and call down. Again but not as hot As
napier Or hastings around there thirty two to thirty four degrees,

(01:36:18):
Apparently mark you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
Heap bornings In gisbone thirty four too hot for me
once again to imagine living In australia now it's heating.
Up you'd want to come, back wouldn't, You.

Speaker 13 (01:36:26):
MARCUS i have lived in the upback Of Western, australia
BUT i don't think it was as hot then as
what it is. Now and you're right over forty over
forty five and it gets too. Unpleasant AND i was
as shop far as, labor SO i was outside working
in it with hard hat and long lungs and with

(01:36:47):
a fly net over my head so they don't swallow
and eat. Flies but they're quickly on the social media
business mark. AS i don't understand. It it's over my.
Head And i'd just like to say that speaking with
twenty son life twenty year old lifeguards at the, moment
they speak a different, language almost super this super And

(01:37:09):
i'm like super.

Speaker 6 (01:37:10):
Deeper they say, no not just, super oh, okay super
Is it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
Says they're rescuing you or you're just breaking making.

Speaker 4 (01:37:20):
No.

Speaker 13 (01:37:20):
NO i was fritened to a young fellow the other.
Day i've would have pulled more people out of the.
Water i've not been a smart us about, it just
stayed in the, fact AND i have Just johnny on the,
spot you, understand BECAUSE i. SWIM i swim every day
And i've been there a few times at the and
just Been johnny on the spot where someone hasn't been
able to swim and they go on on the equa

(01:37:41):
Jogging paul And i've just st happened to be there
and the senior lifeguard thank me afterwards them they then
save them from getting, wet you. Understand and the old
side stroke they do it differently now of course they
don't do the side. Stroke they do there's something supporting
the neck and.

Speaker 12 (01:38:00):
With their.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
Leaves were you were you did you work as it
were you alive in your younger? Days were you?

Speaker 13 (01:38:05):
Alive, well not, Officially. Marcus it's just AS i, say
Being johnny on the spot and my very strong swimmer
always have, been always been the swimming down the beach
and what have you? New Brighton, Beach North beach and why,
Mari and but centially in the in the in the

(01:38:26):
swimming pools where people have got out of their depth
and they don't know how to tread, water you. Know
so it's just it's only really a few pedals to
get into the side of the pool or you know
that sort of. Thing nothing too, Miraculous. Marcus but you
know they're fine to, say get a and how you.

(01:38:47):
Going it's all good on your day's just going to
get a.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
Headlines but thanks nice to hear from. You thank you
so much for. That here' till. Midnight if you want
to be a part of. It we are talking social
media bands and saving people anyone, else save anyone in the.
Water there's a good topic for, You. Jamie It's marcus.

Speaker 5 (01:39:00):
Welcome, No marcus, there you're going.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
Tonight, Good thank, You.

Speaker 11 (01:39:04):
JAMIE i was bringing up because you mentioned how you
didn't Like Steve smith AND i was the. OPPOSITE i
loved watching him Wow archer around and then been getting
in his face and tell him you, say oh you.
Drive didn't so when they say you're bowling heat now
that there's nothing going, on but that's exactly what cricket.

Speaker 14 (01:39:23):
Means, WELL i don't.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
KNOW i don't know why The english bowlers failed to.
FIRE i don't know why they failed to get angry
at quite what was happening. There but it was.

Speaker 20 (01:39:31):
Bizarre, yeah that's the whole thing is BEING i just
don't think as much AS i, was like being a shallow,
Countryman I'll brendan McCullum AND i don't think he's.

Speaker 5 (01:39:42):
A very good.

Speaker 11 (01:39:42):
Coach he's pinching like all this sort of play how
you want and so they just go out and they
just smesh and and what that first game was.

Speaker 14 (01:39:52):
Terrible that WAS i was.

Speaker 11 (01:39:53):
DISAPPOINTED i wanted to watch the whole thing and it
was over in two days. Ago what AM i going
to listen to a? WORK i got to listen to you, Now,
marcus no?

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
Account, ye why don't you go to the match in the.

Speaker 11 (01:40:03):
WEEKEND i thought about, it but, man it's expensive and
worse work and. Stuff But i'm going to go to
The boxing day test next year when the kiwis a.
Plane we're going to make sure we do, that have
A christmas In melbourne and. Stuff that'll be.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Good you're we have we organized next Year's Chris boxing
D test. Already, yeah just.

Speaker 11 (01:40:26):
About we're starting to have started to talk to The
life and tell her all the good idea that we
should Have christmas In melbourne the kids and then we'll
go to The boxing Day. Test you're, like, Oh i'll
leave you to go to the cricket But i'll come
for about half a.

Speaker 23 (01:40:42):
Day we think we.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
Can you think she'd support you and what you want to?

Speaker 11 (01:40:46):
Do oh, yeah she's team to go down. There she
just doesn't want to sit there for the whole five.
DAYS i, Said i'll probably go for three Because i'll
be sad Because New zealand we'll get. Smashed it'll be
a good. Time but, yeah there's nothing better than watching
The aussie smash The english at the. Ashes after and

(01:41:08):
they stole the twenty, nineteen twenty Nineteen World, cup they
became my TEAM i hated after.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
That, well it reminds me what they did that.

Speaker 12 (01:41:18):
Time oh well they.

Speaker 11 (01:41:21):
You, know the boundary count back and They, OH i
know what.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
Against, YEAH i see what you're. Saying, yep, yep. YEP
i don't. UNDERSTAND i thought you're Doing australia Yet, NO
i completely understand. That, yeah, okay nice to. Talk thanks
to That. Jamie at twenty seven to eleven and we had.
TALK i forget there WAS i think there was an
extra topic in. THERE i don't know. WHAT i forgot
what it. Was what about wouldn't We christmas topics we
will discuss about this time of the. Air everyone's gone

(01:41:46):
quiet on the ham haven't they? Know as much as
talk about. Hams no one's talking about fruit. MINT i
think The christmas cake's pretty much gone as a, thing isn't.
It everyone's realized that people don't like. It no one
under fifty enjoys. THAT i think it was a choice
beween the cake and THE marsi Pand i'd have The
marsie pan. Or they're always slightly suspicious With marsi. PANGS
i think it's always used in the crime novels because

(01:42:07):
it can it can disguise the smell of what poison,
spills like armend one of them. Does is that? Interesting probably? Not,
now be in touch if you want to talk about Maybe.
So i'm enjoying this discussion on social. MEDIA i find
it quite interesting cyanide spells Like. Garmonds there you, go

(01:42:34):
it's the. Poison but be in touch if you want
to wear any of these. Topics there's other stuff you
want to. Mention it's twenty six to eleven. People, oh
check Out google rob cope with regards to kids and,

(01:42:56):
tech parenting and online. World what DO i want to
propose to you is in internet? Safety Wild dad, Camps,
well that sounds. Weird Marcus, Smith sledge Of archer was
The sledge of the. Decade archer moped around head, down
things didn't go his, way decided to bowl one fifty
k when the test was, lost exactly Like, smith, mean
why not bowl that pace at the beginning of the,

(01:43:18):
Test but it might. Matter smith most outstanding technical skipper
Around MARK'S i Have christmas, cake especially am and cake. Cheers,
chris thank you so being touchy on twere any of these. Things,
oh eight hundred and eighty to twenty twenty four away from,
Eleven so a bit of carey of a discussion from

(01:43:42):
the flag discussion Last. Friday that's one of those ones
that goes. Around he's a Text. Marcus although The United
tribes flag has become widely utilized and popularly except In
New Zealand's Fucker pappa is Essentially, napui the mostly widely
traveled invasive tribal confederation from nineteen twenty two to nineteen
and twenty SIX A mariori accounts to packing our mission
reason pre treaty setlus qualify Quantified maori slay By marie

(01:44:04):
is fourteen years of the Integral Tribal, wars exceeding sixty five,
thousand so still for many deep hurd killer tat Robin
tamata oh natupna' nukum raukawa nati toata. Natamata thank you for.
That get in touch if you want to text or
talk about, flags flags and cell. Phones that's pretty much
just us for. Tonight i'm always like a callback topic

(01:44:30):
and if you've got Something christmas, related anyone doing interesting
anyone doing a Rabbit ham or Interesting. Ham this summer
always like A ham variation as The southern, Hemisphere christmas
tends to, progress IF i can, say countdowns pivoted to
wool with man Oh. Man their decorations aren't, much are

(01:44:51):
they jeepers, creepers cheap and cheerful like Cardboard christmas. Trees
what's that about? Anyway and also Bony, m they were
exploited just Like Milli vanilli by the same, PERSON i,

(01:45:14):
think the Same germans sort Of, dodge but he was
a major. Scandal it was all about fraud and lip.
Syncing AND i don't THINK i don't know if you. Should,
YEAH i don't think it's a good. Thing but, anyway
you could do a tune with that drum beat Bony.

(01:45:36):
M but Their christmas albums is is one of the.
Greats so by the, way people keep texting me and
telling which ads they switch off, DURING i don't get those,
ADS i don't think. SO i think you all get,
adds different ads in different, places So i'm NOT i

(01:45:59):
can't really concur or identify when you say ones are
freaking you. OUT i don't really know too much about,
that but it's freaking. Out they're probably, working so we'll
say to, that but, yes all the lines are. Free
we are talking about cell phones and youth and the

(01:46:22):
social media band that happens tomorrow In, australia and there's
been indications it's a bit. Sketchy the. INDICATIONS i think
THAT i Think Christopher luxon spoke about, it but there's
also a private group that was abdicating for, it and
they were having some sort of discussion on who would
stolen each other's, thunder which looks slightly less than ideal

(01:46:43):
from a point of viewers who was dictating. Policy but
NOW i Think Erica stanford On today on podcast has
said that she's in favor of rolling out this. Band,
well not the. End the cell phone's already banned in,
schools but now they're looking to follow The australian example
and banning certain social media and which means that companies

(01:47:04):
Like facebook and TikTok need to have several firm forms
of PHOTO id from people to prove they're of age
to be on social, media and if they find people
too young on, that there's they could have their license
revoked or. Something so, yes there's a fair bit to
unpicking that tonight and get in touch if you do

(01:47:25):
want to. Talk there's something. Different that's what we're on about.
Tonight eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine to
nine to detext have been Too emergency call outs to
Two West coast, beaches.

Speaker 28 (01:47:35):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
Surprises what? Beaches they Are mudaway And karriatahi Near. Wyuku
that's the, well that's you know, what they're beaches police
an ambulance invert alerted to people in trouble in the.
Water there must have been both beaches that were. Monitored so,

(01:47:57):
YES i hate to say, it BUT i suspect the
summer is going to be a great, summer and great
summers are drowning. Summers SO i know how we can
what we can do to stop that. Happening is it
okay to put solar lights or fairy light on The christmas?
Tree and why the Are christmas emojis.

Speaker 5 (01:48:20):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
POINT i don't know what you want to say about,
that But i'm up for. It seventeen away from eleven
lines free fifteen away from Eleven Hello Roberts, marcus.

Speaker 12 (01:48:30):
Welcome, yeah you Ain't marcus, Good rob good. Good, Look
i'm just coming late on your on your talk, Back
but you were talking about, hams, yeah were.

Speaker 9 (01:48:41):
You?

Speaker 12 (01:48:42):
WELL i cooked one tonight for some guests on a
Giant we have a Ranch cole Barbecue chuckoal. Barbecue. Wow,
yeah it's ninety three. Centimeters, yes it's a big. One

(01:49:05):
it's a bit. THIRTY i think it's about thirty seven.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
Inches that's the, barbecue not the.

Speaker 25 (01:49:11):
Ham the.

Speaker 12 (01:49:11):
Barbecue, yeah the barbecue. Here.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
Yeah so then when you say you cooked the, ham
you didn't make the. Ham you cooked. It you bought
a ham and cooked it that. Way, yeah, okay how.

Speaker 5 (01:49:21):
Do you do? You?

Speaker 12 (01:49:23):
WELL i just, yeah, WELL i took that the rhine off,
it and THEN i scored, it AND i wrapped it
in a, tinfoil and THEN i just, YEAH i put
it put. It, Well, well the coals it was indirect,
heat SO i pushed the coals to the, side and,

(01:49:44):
yeah so it wasn't directly the ham wasn't sitting direct
directly above the of the. Coals and and then, yeah
after about an hour hour, FIFTEEN i took the tinfoil
off and THEN i glazed it with a, marmalade, mango
peach and, onion you know.

Speaker 2 (01:50:06):
Mixture, REALLY i suspect it was. Delicious oh, yeah, yeah well.

Speaker 23 (01:50:12):
My guests like.

Speaker 12 (01:50:12):
That, Actually i've got A i've got a catering job
for sixty tomorrow And i'm doing the same.

Speaker 2 (01:50:18):
Thing were you catering with it today or?

Speaker 12 (01:50:22):
No, well, well, look it was sort of like a
bit of A christmas party AND i work At, Look
i've got a food trailer on A friday, NIGHT i
work at an ur essay here in The manuma two
and it was just a shout to say thanks for
all the custom during the. Year oh that sounds kind of,

(01:50:44):
you and just, Yeah i've just done done it for my,
guests AND i cooked a rump roast as.

Speaker 28 (01:50:50):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
Yeah is you are you? Only what are you? Only
how often you in your food?

Speaker 5 (01:50:55):
Truck?

Speaker 14 (01:50:57):
Look, well.

Speaker 12 (01:51:01):
Four or five times a, week just depending on what
sort of Jobs i'm. Doing If i'm doing catering, jobs
you know that that good paying. Jobs SO i don't
necessarily have to do my takeaway just because of you,
Know i'm cashed up AND i just don't have to.

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
Work so are you at the square In Palaston? North are?

Speaker 20 (01:51:20):
You?

Speaker 12 (01:51:21):
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:51:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:51:22):
Yeah, LOOK i haven't rung up just to tell you
all about my.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
BUSINESS i know that curious About are you open Over? Christmas?

Speaker 12 (01:51:31):
Uh, yeah, YEAH i will be opened. That look that
there's a there's there's a few events. Going not THAT
i chase, Events, No i'm sort Of i'm sort of
a bit of a loan, ranger AND i find my own,
work So i'm not at anyone's bacon.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
Call sounds, great sounds like you've got the whole thing. Sorted.

Speaker 12 (01:51:47):
Well, look, look, yeah it's it's very interesting because there's
a lot of work out, there and and you, KNOW
i don't Like, look it's just a personal. THING i
don't like mixing with other food. CARTS i just do
my own main, thing AND i do my own. WORK i,
mean you, KNOW i don't go to events for twenty
or twenty five food. Cats it just doesn't make sense to.

Speaker 2 (01:52:10):
Me, No, NO i watching about food. Cats, yeah it's
sort it's always the wrong food cats that the kids
are obsessed, with, too isn't.

Speaker 12 (01:52:19):
It, well you, know but BUT i mean that they're
obsessed generly with those bully syrup. Drinks ice cream are, good, yeah, yeah,
yeah those slushes are buy. TERRIBLE i, mean oh they're, terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
And doughnuts are. Terrible there's bigger donuts and cheap where's
the joy in?

Speaker 12 (01:52:40):
That, well, well the figures as, well that the low value.
Items you, know you need a whole lot of people
right to make money because so you need to be
selling hundreds of, them where whereas if you've got items
on your menu that are high, value you're you, know

(01:53:00):
you just go and go on.

Speaker 2 (01:53:02):
VOLUME i can't quite work out what the peal of
slushes is to, children but they can't walk past.

Speaker 12 (01:53:07):
Them well as, colors you, know they look they look pretty. Right,
well well will they do it.

Speaker 6 (01:53:17):
With me as?

Speaker 12 (01:53:17):
Well BECAUSE i HAVE i have like donuts AND i
have A. LEAMINGTON i Have lemington. Donuts you, know they look,
pretty the pink ones and the chocolate. Ones so so
the kids are steading there, fascinated you, know mum saying oh, no,
no you're not having the.

Speaker 14 (01:53:35):
SWEET i THINK i JUST i Think.

Speaker 2 (01:53:37):
I've just answered my questions about kids and social. Media
if they're not able to choose decent, stacks if they're
at that stage they still think slushy is a good,
stack they probably shouldn't be got no ability to choose
what social Media repsloy should be on.

Speaker 12 (01:53:50):
Exactly you, look look at the social media things. INTERESTING
i don't do a lot of it Because i'm not
convinced with.

Speaker 2 (01:53:57):
It, yeah it makes.

Speaker 13 (01:53:59):
Sense i'm not.

Speaker 12 (01:54:00):
Convinced and then. Plush your competitors are watching what you're,
doing AND i don't want them to.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
Know you, know it sounds very, Sensible, Rob you have
a Good. Christmas nice to. Talk nine to. Eleven there
is some discussion they about our summer holiday has been too.
Long i've heard the prominence of talk About i've also
Heard Simon bridges talk about. IT i don't think that's the.
Reason when the economy is, bad there's the people having
too long for. Summer But Simon bridges Says New zealand's

(01:54:29):
holiday summer holiday is too long and in the wrong. Place,
goodness there was a view that is interest its down
not just For christmas And New, year but from many
cases all the way through To. March is that one
of our. Problems, oh by the, way the other thing
THAT i was concerned about today was The New Zealand herald.
Quiz you want to do that? Today you do The

(01:54:51):
New Zealand herald quiz. RIGHT i said they've updated it
Because i'm SURE i didn't get it. Wrong The New
Zealand herald quiz For december the. Eighth, oh there's two
quizzes a, day are there the afternoon? Quiz so the
afternoon quiz Today i'm just bringing up now was quite

(01:55:13):
a hard. One Which queen of eng had the longest?
Run That's Queen. Victoria which country is home to the
ancient city Of? Carthage take a?

Speaker 5 (01:55:23):
Guess was It?

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
Gennesia? Yep which country is the world's oldest? Parliament That's.
Iceland three out of three so? Far on a ship
a dog watches how? Long two? Hours four out of?
Four which element is named after The greek one for? Hidden?

Speaker 14 (01:55:38):
One is that?

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
Krypton? Zen don't know the. Answer it's just putting me.

Speaker 5 (01:55:42):
On but It's.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
Krypton that's. Wrong what was the final score in the
men's final at The. Dubais don't, Care i'll do twenty
four to nineteen? Wrong which is in A british architect
to designed the? Beehive that Was Subezil, spence which philosopher,
Wrote thus Spoke Zarus. Druer i'll put Down nitzse this.
One what is the Only South american country with Both

(01:56:04):
atlantic And pacific coast? Lies AND i Put columbia and
they said the answer Was. Brazil they've changed. IT i
have got a screenshot of the. Original that's how PARANOID
i was about. That it was For brazil for a long. Time,
anyway that's. Good they know they correct, those so there we,

(01:56:25):
go panic. Over they just had a mistake and they've fixed,
it so good on. Them text if you want to
hit till twelve, tonight eight hundred and, eighty ten, eighty
and if you've got another breaking news or anything you
want to talk about, tonight that would be. GOOD i
still feel there's yet another big news story to happen
before the end of the. YEAR i don't know what it,

(01:56:47):
is BUT i think something big is, brewing And i've
got no idea what that. Is but my psychic comilities
are quite strong at the moment And i'm feeding. THEM
i didn't know That Justin trudeau And Katie perry were.
Engaged oh, no It's instagram. Official, sorry it's not engaged.
Yet that's the next best, thing, though isn't. It no

(01:57:09):
more stories about The seals that want into the bar
And richmond big story that one, though wasn't it? Anyway
be a part of you on top before the? News
otherwise afterwards it's all good with. Me hen till. Twelve
maybe someone's trying something different than This christmas in the
cooking department when it won't be a to duck. In

(01:57:30):
But i'm sure someone trying some ambitious. Stuff always good
to hear. About, that Didn't Queen Ayes it was Before.
Elizabeth that was the rest of the tech. Question i'm
sorry to say, That. Marcus really good to hear you
or still the new usual shift? Tonight Will jimmy miss
you when you take leave over? Summer, well thinking about
me is you'll you'll never find me filling in for
anyone else's. Shift i've always thought that.

Speaker 5 (01:57:52):
Would be a.

Speaker 2 (01:57:52):
Rubduck why would you do? That leave your people to
go somewhere? Else why would you leave your crowd to
go walk? About in a broadcasting? Sense? Madness any who,
ah how are you going? People marcus till? Midnight that's
a good point. Him marcus So bridges spent years In

(01:58:14):
parliament having, long very long summer, breaks and now is
it other people having a break ha. HA i agree
a big heckting Before. Christmas reps lux and will be.
Rolled cheers AND Nicki, marcus we Do muttonhams For. Christmas
tony good to Hear muttenhams. Mentioned did you hear the? News?
Hilarious the fires have Closed State holy forty, seven which

(01:58:36):
is Between statehoy forty six and Stay ay forty. Eight
no mention of. Towns be in touch be a part
of the. Show also social media bands and have you
saved someone? Drowning not metaphorically we've all done, that but
in the real WORLD i R. L is that what you?
Say in real? Life all good topics be in touch

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if you want to talk yep eight Eight, john this Is.
Marcus greetings and good, evening hy good, Evening.

Speaker 9 (01:59:15):
Marcus, LOOK i just wanted to tell YOU i got
a the son of, mine and he was out On
sunday night between five and seven o'clock and he ragged me.
Today he, SAID i, said you know that that young fellow,
Fifteen this, boy nice nice, boy had come from a
very good, family very nice mom and, dad brothers and.

(01:59:37):
Sisters and he said he was out walking down the
road and this is in the best area Of hamilton
And road To tuna on A thursday night and about
ten years attacked, him knocked him to the ground and
kicked him in the head and repeatedly kicked him in the.
Head and he, said he, said you, KNOW i think

(01:59:58):
that's absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:59:59):
Disgusting but.

Speaker 9 (02:00:02):
They got it on. Camera AND i, SAID i, said
but they were they were they bokes and went to
same school as, him and they said he, said, no he,
said because he's. Homeschooled so it would have been the
complete stranger into these.

Speaker 2 (02:00:14):
Boats have the police got, Them.

Speaker 9 (02:00:17):
Yeah the police have got them.

Speaker 5 (02:00:18):
Here but that's terrible.

Speaker 2 (02:00:20):
Enough, YEAH i can't work out why that would have.

Speaker 23 (02:00:23):
Happened WELL i.

Speaker 9 (02:00:25):
CAN'T i know it couldn't have happened to an Icy
and it's pretty it's pretty pretty.

Speaker 2 (02:00:33):
TERRIBLE i just try to find the new story for.

Speaker 9 (02:00:37):
It the only THING i wanted to just meet it as.
Well about all these people go out and climbing mountains
and walking and places and going to the, bushes.

Speaker 2 (02:00:54):
The, walkers, yep going out and, boats you know.

Speaker 9 (02:00:58):
Stuff you, know that's the hell of a. Lot get into,
trouble get lost bush they get, lost go up mountains and,
stuff and people have to sort of in many cases
with their lives to go and find them and look for.
Them AND i just wonder why people do that so.
Often it's always happening all the, time and it must

(02:01:23):
cost a lot of money to you, know to do
that or else it's all uh volunteers that do. That
but why do you see people are like?

Speaker 2 (02:01:34):
That what they enjoy the. Outdoors while they enjoy the, outdoors.

Speaker 9 (02:01:40):
Yeah well that's, fine but.

Speaker 2 (02:01:43):
Getting, LOST i don't think anyone gets lost. Deliberately WELL i,
know but they still.

Speaker 9 (02:01:52):
DO i mean some of these mountaineer. GUYS i was
listening to some stories about some mountaineers guys that we're
going to help this mountain and they take guides with
that and somebody big to massape enough and they never
saw them. Again and that's What i'm, saying is that
sort of halfway fill seeking or to attain the send

(02:02:13):
some slope or.

Speaker 2 (02:02:14):
Something, YEAH i don't. Know, YEAH i don't. THINK i
don't think anyone wants to ban them those sort of
pursuite shit, though do They.

Speaker 14 (02:02:22):
NO i wouldn't.

Speaker 9 (02:02:22):
KNOW i wouldn't say that you should ban. Them but
people have to put themselves. Up, mean they get stuck
up places Like Mount cook and other mountains like, that
and when the stoves are it and stuff and they
get cross in the. MOUNTAIN i don't think they should ban.
It it shouldn't ban. Anything it should be up there free.
Will But i'm just saying that there's constantly somebody getting

(02:02:45):
into die straits doing, it and people have to go
out and put themselves at risk the sort of find them.

Speaker 6 (02:02:51):
Us.

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
Yeah i've never Been i've never been involved in search and,
rescue And i've always thought those people probably quite enjoy
that kind of. Stuff the excitement of search and. Rescue
it sort of becomes a hobby for some, people doesn't.

Speaker 5 (02:03:03):
It oh, well it might be. THERE i don't.

Speaker 2 (02:03:05):
Know i've never been, in but they're always sort of
they have a few beers afterwards and discuss the. RESCUE
i think that's sort of a big thing for. People
it's to be like coast, guard isn't.

Speaker 5 (02:03:13):
It, yeah, YEAH i don't know about it that.

Speaker 2 (02:03:18):
Maybe so.

Speaker 9 (02:03:20):
What do you like finding them or being?

Speaker 6 (02:03:23):
Found, Well i'd rather do.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
It, well you'd rather be out, there but not getting,
LOST i think would be. Me, John just tween you and.
Me thank. You thirteen past. Twelve you might want to
comment on that anything. Else here'll twelve mine of His,
Marcus good, Evening oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty and
nine to nine to the text what have you? GOT
i am here for you AND i, say, oh eight
hundred eighty ten eight anything goes social media and rescuing people.

Speaker 10 (02:03:53):
Being.

Speaker 2 (02:03:53):
Touched to be a part of. It if you want
to be part of the. Show before twelve And roman
along a.

Speaker 13 (02:03:59):
Minute.

Speaker 2 (02:04:01):
Good, Evening, Barbara this this Is. Marcus. Welcome oh, Hi.

Speaker 29 (02:04:04):
MARCUS i just was telling your man THAT i would
like to try and explain a little bit more About
Eastern christmas And. Easter but he would say New oh, good,
Okay SO i can do.

Speaker 2 (02:04:16):
That of course you're. Welcome this is a great forum for.

Speaker 29 (02:04:19):
That, okay.

Speaker 12 (02:04:23):
The will to.

Speaker 29 (02:04:23):
Begin i'm just going to say a few general things
that we are not cosmic. Accidents we live on an
amazing planet Called, earth and with everything from butterflies coming
out of cocoons right through to, eagles, wales, people you,
know it's it's a, planned purposeful place That god made

(02:04:45):
for us to live. On, fortunately it's been ruined by you,
know people turning their back On. God and, so But
he's made a special place in us that nothing can
fill except, him and so he wants us to be
reconciled to. Him so that's why we Celebrate, christmas because

(02:05:06):
it's a time When jesus took on human flesh and
dwelled among us and realized what we go through on.
Earth he was tempted in every way that we, are
and yet without, sin because he had to become our.
Sacrifice no one killed, Him god sacrificed. Him he became
a willing sacrifice for our. Sin And easter we Celebrate

(02:05:26):
easter by remembering. Him he, said do this and remember
it as. Me this is my body broken for, you
and this is my blood shed for the remission of your.
Sins and we do have songs s one, before BUT
i just couldn't, remember which sounds. Crazy there's lots of.

Speaker 6 (02:05:43):
Them but when you, start what are The easter?

Speaker 2 (02:05:46):
Songs there aren't many peppy, ones are?

Speaker 29 (02:05:48):
They they're, no because it's quite a serious.

Speaker 2 (02:05:52):
Time but the birth Of christ is a serious time,
too isn't?

Speaker 29 (02:05:55):
It, well it, is but it's joyouscause our saviors. Come
he's come to, say.

Speaker 2 (02:06:02):
Is It easter joyous as? Well because he. Rises is
that not the?

Speaker 3 (02:06:06):
Thing yes it.

Speaker 29 (02:06:07):
Is but for the, yes that's. True And i'm sure
there's a lot of songs THAT i could, remember BUT
i just count off, hand which is. Crazy you.

Speaker 2 (02:06:18):
Explain it all very.

Speaker 29 (02:06:19):
Well, well you, See, marcus we're all. Lost there's no
one on this planet ever been. Born, yeah well this is.
It and because of sin in the, world and so
some people, LISTENING i, Mean i've been a foster, mom
and some people listening will THINK i don't want to
hear this because of the brutality that people have gone,
through you, Know AND i understand. That but you, Know

(02:06:41):
god did come to reconcile us to him through his.
Son so this hope for every, past every person on this,
planet and no matter what their life has been, like
and whether they are in the deepest pits or the highest,
places That god came for us. All he came for us.
All and if we've Got, jesus who we can receive

(02:07:02):
as our. Savior and that's the bottom, line you, know
and he, Does barbara take our.

Speaker 2 (02:07:08):
PUNISHMENT i think you've nailed.

Speaker 29 (02:07:09):
It, okay Thanks, Mark.

Speaker 2 (02:07:12):
BARBARA i think you do sound like someone that hasn't
been lead on.

Speaker 9 (02:07:15):
Air.

Speaker 2 (02:07:15):
Before you've got a lot to. Say, yes there's a
bit of truth in. That, yeah the quick guy has
to get the quick. Fit that's. Fantastic sixteen past, eleven

(02:07:37):
someone's text me a text to a wrong, number which is. Interesting,
ANYWAY i can cope with. That if you want to
join the, discussion. Welcome tell you something About. JOHN i
liked his, Voice, patty this Is. Marcus good.

Speaker 9 (02:07:55):
Evening oh good A.

Speaker 6 (02:07:58):
Marcus thanks for taking the call, man my. PLEASURE i
agree with a lady. Beforehand and the element Of christianity
is lacking out of the, gangs Which i've experienced in
Almon taranaki, lad and experienced In wanganui more. Lately and

(02:08:24):
it's being disgusting Here.

Speaker 5 (02:08:27):
Marcus, yep.

Speaker 6 (02:08:30):
Yep they've got control of the pea market and then
they've got you, know young girls and other foolish people
getting dependent on the pea and doing any causing crime
so they can keep their industry.

Speaker 2 (02:08:49):
Going, sure, Okay and did you want to again lost
in the?

Speaker 6 (02:08:53):
Bush oh, yeah, yeah he's said a bit of hunting
with the mate from the east. Coast now there and
good oard men and we sat a few were there
and except you know, what.

Speaker 9 (02:09:09):
And ate, well AND.

Speaker 6 (02:09:14):
I can't understand why when you go and get your gun,
license and particularly you know young fellas being taught by
the you, know seasoned hunters that why don't you'll wear
some sort of alarmed, thing not so much like a

(02:09:38):
bracelet like you have to wear in. Prison Apparently i've
been there.

Speaker 2 (02:09:42):
YET i think most people. Do a lot of people
when there out in the, bush they do have emergency located,
beacons DO i? Think is that what you're referring. TO
i think people do carry.

Speaker 6 (02:09:52):
Those, yes that's What i'm referring, To. Marcus, REALLY i,
mean you, know to save all the expenses of you,
know guys with families and hunters get called. Out your
previous caller was dead right, saying you, know sometimes these

(02:10:15):
guys families and they've got farms or, whatever and Yet
gray dead a lady midnight or something and dropped them
somewhere By joppa or, whatever and then they have to
go and search for these.

Speaker 2 (02:10:30):
People interesting interesting, Points, petty thanks for making them twenty
part eleven, Evening, raymond It's, Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 26 (02:10:39):
Good, Day Marcus.

Speaker 23 (02:10:40):
House thanks good, Thanks.

Speaker 6 (02:10:41):
Raymond that's the.

Speaker 26 (02:10:43):
Story i've got a bit of a harry On. Tail
about a DAY i head down At Curry Curry beach
on the west coast Of. Auckland sure back in the late.

Speaker 6 (02:10:54):
NINETIES i was.

Speaker 26 (02:10:58):
Dating the bank miniature at the. Time she had a
couple of young kids and we took them down the
beach and they decided to bury me in the, sand
as kids. Do and after we finished with, THAT i
decided to walk down to the water.

Speaker 9 (02:11:14):
To wash the sand.

Speaker 26 (02:11:16):
Off AND i was pretty, fit a big, fellow six
foot two and ninety old, kegs But i'd outrigged and
served on my. LIFE i was pretty, fit AND i
was just on the right, hand directly in line with
the right hand. Flag there's a couple of other people
there as. Well but the swells that day work. Gigantic

(02:11:40):
usually sets come in and falls to, sixes but this
day they'll come sevens and, eights and they were about
between ten and twelve feet in, height and they were
just closing it out on the. Reef, ANYWAY i was
standing up with the water about my knee, height splashing

(02:12:04):
myself with the water to get the sand, off and
a big swell come in and when it went, out
it sucked all the sand out from under my feet
AND i ended up on my. Back BEFORE i knew,
IT i was about twenty metters out and it just
keept sucking and also took another five people with. It,

(02:12:25):
Wow so there were six of us right out the
back and just going further and.

Speaker 5 (02:12:30):
Further SO.

Speaker 26 (02:12:33):
I tried to raise the, alarm put in my hand,
up BUT i realized that the dip between the waves
was obscuring the vision from this. Beach SO i had
to wait until the last wave went sufficiently passed THAT
i could be. Seen and waves just kept. Coming but

(02:12:56):
the whitewater was about eight feet eight feet, tall you,
know it was. Huge, Anyway i've seen this guy next
about twenty meters away from.

Speaker 5 (02:13:06):
Me he was really.

Speaker 26 (02:13:07):
Struggling it was going, under SO i swam over to.
Him it turned out it Was careen for about twenty years,
old AND i grabbed him and flipped him on his,
back AND i was trying to hold on to. It
every time we got hat by the, whitewater he just spied.
It and SO i was canning of the sets and

(02:13:31):
the gap between the, sets and we're out there for
about ten minutes AND i was starting to. ATTIRE i
had to let him Go and, anyway about five minutes after,
THAT i made my way back and far, enough and

(02:13:51):
the lifeguards were swimming out with the rings and one
came up to me and, said, okay, NOW i, SAID
i don't, know and he, said try and touch the.
GROUND i could just get my tippy does onto the.

Speaker 6 (02:14:06):
Sand SO.

Speaker 26 (02:14:08):
I just loaded myself under the water and sort of
springboarded my way.

Speaker 14 (02:14:13):
Forward towards the.

Speaker 26 (02:14:14):
Beach, ANYWAY i got to the beach AND i was
on the hands and knees throwing a green foam and
they brought this corene guy back and he was unconscious
and he got helicoptered To Auckland. Hospital but the funny
thing about, IT i got back to my partner at the,

(02:14:36):
time and she couldn't see what was going on because
the river ran parallel with the beach and there was
a big sand between the river and the, beach so
she couldn't see the drama that was. Unfolding and she was.
Livid she, said where the hell are you Being so

(02:14:59):
it WAS i had a bit of explaining to. Do
it took her a while to believe believe. Me but
when the tropper flew in and picked the guy, up
she sort of realized what had. Happened but there was
as close As i've come to. Drowning and, Yeah i'm
just thankful THAT i kept the guy for as long

(02:15:20):
as it, did about ten. Minutes otherwise he would have
been a. Goner but, ANYWAY i rang the hospital and
checked on him and they took my, name and two
days LATER i got a phone call from his, mother
who spoke pretty good In, english and she thanked, me

(02:15:43):
said that was. Nice, yeah that's my story, anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:15:46):
Mate and, look OFTEN i often go to carry. CARRY
i don't swim there, often But i've been. There i've
been there when there's days like, that and it's not
an Easy it's not easy for the surf because that
river always changes its, course doesn't. It so it's hard
for the people's right to get their boat boat down.
There BUT i think they do a stirling job even

(02:16:09):
to keep manning that, beach because IT'S i, mean more
often than, NOT i think it's. Sketched for, me it's
sketchy than pH because it's just so inaccessible to get
people in and out of.

Speaker 26 (02:16:21):
There that, NIGHT i sat down at, HOME i was watching,
them just watching the, news and about the third story
of the day was the surf that was on the
west coast Or. Often apparently they pulled about fifty five
people out of peh and about thirty odd Out. Murorway so,

(02:16:46):
yeah it was a record day for life savers that.

Speaker 6 (02:16:51):
DAY i wonder.

Speaker 2 (02:16:53):
WHY i wonder why they didn't see you go because
you think normally they're on someplace where they can see.
Everyone because that's the worrying thing that five or six
people taken, out they didn't see any of.

Speaker 26 (02:17:03):
Them, YEAH i think the the problem was having so
quick and also by the time we realized we're in
trouble in the impeg zone and the. Whitewater, honestly it
was like eight feet eight to ten feet, tall so
when you're at the bottom of, that just your head

(02:17:25):
down the, bottom you're looking up that it was.

Speaker 14 (02:17:27):
Powerful.

Speaker 26 (02:17:27):
Mate i've been in some surp And taranaki AND i
have been.

Speaker 5 (02:17:31):
In some big.

Speaker 26 (02:17:32):
Swells i've never felt the power LIKE i had that.
Day and the trough between the sets and the swells
were hiding. This so, YEAH i hate to time time
it because you know you're running out of, Breath you're

(02:17:52):
trying to hold yourself up and use your hands and
legs to stay, buoyant AND i had to wait TILL
i could just about see the beach BEFORE i sort
of took one hand to put it.

Speaker 2 (02:18:03):
Up, yeah it was to put you off.

Speaker 26 (02:18:07):
Swimming, no, NO i still love to.

Speaker 2 (02:18:11):
See good, Answer. Raymond fantastic. Story thank you for telling
it so. Well love that twenty nine away from eleven.
Twelve rather make it that justice Is. Marcus good, Evening.

Speaker 3 (02:18:22):
How are, You?

Speaker 24 (02:18:23):
Marcus there you?

Speaker 5 (02:18:23):
Go?

Speaker 24 (02:18:24):
Mate Good Jess oh, Mate i'm out here for a
strolling purs. FAN i Thought i'll give you a call
tonight and say say.

Speaker 2 (02:18:31):
Happy holiday holiday you, Too.

Speaker 3 (02:18:33):
Thys, oh Thanks.

Speaker 24 (02:18:35):
Margus what DO i want to talk to you? ABOUT
i Have i've got a dilimma that you might be
able to help me. With, Right, So i've got the
Annual christmas party coming up at, work well the second.
One they do two of, them but this particular, event
you have to buy a fifteen dollar gift for a
secret sandsa.

Speaker 12 (02:18:51):
Game NOW i have no.

Speaker 6 (02:18:53):
Idea what to?

Speaker 2 (02:18:53):
Get has it got The Yankee?

Speaker 24 (02:18:57):
SWAMP i don't, know how do? YOU i just don't
know what to. GET i, mean fifteen bucks can't get.

Speaker 2 (02:19:05):
Much think The yankee swap is one where you can
where you, can where you. Can if you've got a
prize you don't, want you can open a prize or
take someone else's. Prize it gives you more. FORGIVENESS i.

Speaker 6 (02:19:18):
Reckon, yeah they, do they do have.

Speaker 24 (02:19:20):
That they do have that rule are going to.

Speaker 2 (02:19:22):
Cost a living. Crisis you get them a dozen eggs or.
Something but it depends if they're sort of going out parting,
afterwards because then all the stuff you get. Abandoned, YEAH
i have no.

Speaker 24 (02:19:32):
Idea like my missus has got like a drawer where
she gets given gifts that she doesn't use and it's
kind of like it's the regifting draw, right BUT i
Think i've used it over the last few. Years So
i'm Thinking i've got no idea what to get. Anyone but.

Speaker 2 (02:19:48):
You, know just, firstly do they know who's?

Speaker 16 (02:19:51):
Bought?

Speaker 2 (02:19:52):
What do they know it's your that you've bought because
you're not going to get in trouble of it's a.
Dud who's the, market what's the what's the?

Speaker 24 (02:20:02):
Workplace you've probably got majority female ages between maybe thirty to.

Speaker 19 (02:20:12):
Fifty oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:20:17):
Follow, wine yeah or something off. TEAM i don't know
what the answer is for that. One, yeah has your
partner got wine a new?

Speaker 24 (02:20:28):
Drawer, yeah she's got a few BOTTLES i can.

Speaker 11 (02:20:31):
Steal i'd go with.

Speaker 2 (02:20:33):
That of course you don't want to get you, Onto,
yeah you don't want to get wine or, yeah just
don't anyone to. Relapse nice to talk to. You thank.
You twenty out to, twelve twenty six to, Twelve, trevor It's. Marcus.

Speaker 30 (02:20:47):
Welcome, oh good, Evening, marcus thank you for Taking. MICHAEL
i just wanted to raise a significant day In New
zealand's political history that happened fifty years ago, today and
that was the day that the Late Robert muldoon canceled
The New New zealand And superannuation then and the significant

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thing about that decision was, that according To Simon, power
WHO i think is THE ceo Of Vicious, funds it
has costas country nine hundred.

Speaker 5 (02:21:22):
And twenty billion. Dollars, yeah isn't that?

Speaker 2 (02:21:28):
Significant so as, today of course he won the he
won the. Election he won the election on the back
of The ski mangering On Norman kirk's. Proposal so did
he can is this the day he won the? Election
or did he? Can't do he can't look straight away
or is this the day it?

Speaker 21 (02:21:45):
Happened he can't cancel it?

Speaker 6 (02:21:47):
Today apparently what?

Speaker 2 (02:21:48):
That, YEAH i just wonder what day the election. Was but,
yeah are They?

Speaker 6 (02:21:55):
Yeah it's an amazing, thing isn't.

Speaker 2 (02:21:59):
It because the bribe for him was that all those
people just about to, retire they went for his. Scheme
but because they got the super. Straightaway, sure but, yeah
and not only would of the country been a lot,
richer we would have had much greater infrastructure because it
would have been invested in all that. Stuff that is. Right,

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Yes i'm just. Reading the election was the nineteenth of
this nineteenth Of november that, year so it was it
was just ten days after the election that he that he.

Speaker 25 (02:22:32):
Got rid of.

Speaker 5 (02:22:33):
It that's. True thank you for listening to me, anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:22:38):
My, Pleasure. Trevor thank you for raising.

Speaker 14 (02:22:40):
That that's.

Speaker 2 (02:22:40):
Important twenty four to, Twelve. Marcus tell that guy to
an op shop and you'll find. Something someone, said hand.
CREAM i wouldn't want hand, cream BUT i wouldn't go
to a place with a secret center for. Me if
there's a Secret, SANDRA i don't. Go that's how MUCH
i hate. It and people come around to, that they
realize there is a whole. Group we're not getting tuned

(02:23:01):
out for A. Christmas it'll be The Secret. Center everything's,
oh that'll be a bit of. Fun i'll make the,
evening but for most of us, think, Well i'd, rather,
Honestly i'd rather stay at home and watch selling sunset
than sit through A Secret center. THING i can't stand,
it but good on.

Speaker 1 (02:23:17):
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