Ep 541 - Aaron Carnes (In Defense of Ska) - What's Up Fool? Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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(01:11):
tell you that?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
You know right if you're then searching it up and
not being subscribed?

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah? Man, how you listening to a podcast you don't comment?

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:19):
You might just don't listen. We need you to. Every
time I go to this podcast, like thirteen comments. Bro, Okay,
so I'm guessing the rest everybody else turned it off
after one minute? Yeah the chat you know what it is, bro?
Our listening are over forty, Yeah, are like over forty
and they don't know that they listen to podcasts that

(01:42):
they like. They let they read newspapers. Brod you move
to the next page and they podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
The signal gets weakend am.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
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over forty, you listen to a podcast Stretch First, Stretchers,
Sciatic and go to your phone or wherever you're watching.
Get another. While you're watching, comment Hey, man, really appreciate
the hours you guys spend with us every Wednesday Live.

(02:11):
I'm gonna been listening since they want bring back Rodrigo
to get rid of Rizzo. Whatever you want to comment, man,
whatever you want to comment, comment man. Also, if you
if you're like, if you're still like, if you're starting
into conspiracy theories and you're on X you know the
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(02:31):
what's a full podcast? Even if you have two followers,
what's the full podcast? All right? I don't understand. I come,
what's hard about leaving in a comment or subscribing or
telling them someone about the podcast we do. We're gonna
reach six hundred episodes and we still got twenty comics.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
I think people are just scared, Dude. They don't want
to know what's it called.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
I think a lot of those people they're just they
want He watched the podcast live and after that he
just maybe.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Because I don't like to annoy annoy people, maybe I
should start this podcast with mumbo jumbo for about thirty
minutes a prayer and I'll lose him with a prayer,
just like to start talking, like, you know what, how
about this? But I'm gonna tell you how to take
off this this the back of this phone. You know,
when I first got this phone, I was eating a

(03:26):
yogurt at Starbucks and I saw that I had an
Amazon box and I said, WHOA cause that be my case.
And so I'll get the case and we're going to
unwrap this case right now, and don't forget to subscribe
and share and like. And this guy talks for about

(03:46):
a whole hour, and at the end of the at
the end of the whatever he's talking about, he finally
he'll finally take off the unwrapping. Bro But he must
have said subscribe and like and talked about his life. Also, man,
fuck you out there to anybody that puts all the
fucking recipe, just put the fucking recipe out. The ingredients

(04:11):
I don't want to know where you where you where
you learned about vegan shortbread, bitch. Just get to the
fucking resume the fucking recipe, you fucking I don't want
to know that you fucking went to the French Alps
and learn about fucking jumbalaya tea. Whatever the fuck I'm
watching here, make the cookie. Get to the recipe, Rtrigo.

(04:34):
Swear to god, Bro, I want to go look for
the recipe for I can't take it for I don't
know the fucking tea broke back for good tea. And
there was a blog this long, bro before you got
to the recipe, and I had to read like half
of it to finally get to skip to recipe. And

(04:55):
when I skipped all the way to the bottom, it
started that full stupid face And we're the email of
Matt and they find the recipe showed up. But there's
a But when I got to the recipe, there's the
best part and the bottom has the ingredients and then

(05:15):
you could click on it and order the ingredients. It's
the case you don't have it in your house, you
go order all the ingredients all at once and they'll
show up at your house.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
See that's what I do.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Like, I hate it when I when I try to
look like, you know, how to like fix something in
my car, and then it takes like fucking like thirty
minutes to get to.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
The fucking point.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
I'm like, bro, Like what the buck? Dude?

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Like, I'm just trying to change the spark.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Too much fluff does.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Too much fluff. You know what doesn't have fluff is
this book right here? Man, No fluff, all facts, all entertainment.
The Defensive Scar written by Aaron Gardness like you said, cars, cars, people,
Aaron Carnes Salah, the Meats Bro Podcast, and then man,

(06:01):
this is the this is We're gonna talk about this
on history for fools. But this is bigger than history
for fools. That's why we had it here. No no interruptions.
Right here, What's a full podcast? Defense of SCA. Welcome
to the what'saw Full Podcast? Man, you're first author showed

(06:22):
up with the actual book expert. You're the one with
large look at picture booking, the comic book guy, and
then the comic book guy and then the bigcoin. Oh yeah, yeah,
where are we now?

Speaker 6 (06:37):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (06:39):
The big coin was that sixty grand that was one
hundred and twenty thousand. Dude. He wasn't lying for damn dude.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
So this got the author man of all things car
he has a man, what my bookmark is? Me and
Gabriel Union right here? Oh ship that we want to
I want to go see Dave Chappelle at the comedy store.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
You guys are b.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
O R I p on this phone. Remember, Oh, yes, dude,
and I saw George Love is my mom right here? Bro?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Was that was the that was at a little theater
that was on Valentine's Day?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
And you talk my mom? Manaed me about come oh
he did? Yeah? Oh, man, shout out to this guy
if you can focus on his picture right here, shout
out to a Homer right hair selos he passed away man,
big fan. And it's funny how I don't know how
you heard about Dave Chappelle being at that show, but

(07:37):
he was there and we took a picture. I got
your picture. Also, man, what's up food? What's up? Aaron? Man?
Think I did his podcast? What's your podcast?

Speaker 3 (07:48):
In defensive SCA?

Speaker 1 (07:50):
In defense of SCA people? What do you know about
Scar Romo? Here? Era?

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Now, man, I know Scott Man when I was when
I was. I started reading your book five minutes ago
to get rid of the podcast, but but I read
I got to the part man Aliska and and Bro exactly, Dude,

(08:18):
Like I watched so much movies when I was a
kid on video that a lot of the movies that
I watched had a lot of sky in it. And
and I didn't know I started watching the book that
they were in the they're in the movie too, like
reput Man were really rest of it. Shows up to

(08:40):
the old black lady's house and she's gonna sucking up.
He said it was a suit and and then he
goes and then he's there to take her car as
a station wagon and then uh, and then her her
family members show up, all her black sons and they
all show up and best buzz bro old school bro.

(09:01):
Okay Bro. I didn't know those guys started the the
mod look in l A.

Speaker 7 (09:07):
Yeah, I mean the.

Speaker 6 (09:08):
Mod look came from England. But they were like the
big mod band in La.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah. They what is mod? By the way, people don't
know the.

Speaker 8 (09:15):
Little hats with so I mean it comes from like
the sixties in England, you know, you kind of you know,
it's kind of like the who and small Faces and
the England subcultures are so like there's so much minutia
to it.

Speaker 7 (09:30):
Like what why one?

Speaker 6 (09:32):
Yeah, yeah, But it was like they're definitely like cool
dressers and the scooters and stuff. It wasn't necessarily a
SCO thing, but the Untouchables were a ska band, so
there was like they kind of married the mod and
the SCO thing. And so when when we go to
their shows in the eighties, there'd just be scooters all
up and down the street because all the all the

(09:52):
mod kids would go to their shows.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
And you grew up in Sacramento.

Speaker 7 (09:56):
No, I grew up in Gilroy.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Gilroy Garlic cap.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Yeah, yes, no vampire is there?

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Bro the Garlic Festival.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
The Garlic Festival which was canceled a few years ago
because somebody was shot.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Yes, I remember that.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
It was an onion guy Brot.

Speaker 7 (10:20):
I think it's coming back. I hear it's coming back.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
It was because No, you smell it.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
Every time you go to a you smell Yeah, you
get that.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
It comes through the car with the windows rolled up.
It's crazy.

Speaker 9 (10:33):
What Thetuchables are. They one of the first La ska bands.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
They're pretty close to the first there's a band called
box Car box Boys, box Boys who they had Betty
Betty Bitch from the band Bitch. She the metal band before.
Before she was in the band, she was in the
box Boys. But the Untouchables were the first, like Big
l a band for sure. They used to play it

(11:00):
place called the n Club, which was like this little
hole in the wall place where they'd have ska and
soul and reggae and dancing. And the Untouchables were like
the band there. They just packed that club out with
odd kids.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
I wish I would have read your book. We had
Fishbone on the podcast, and I didn't know that that
his band members were from South Central Yeah, and yeah
I did fishboard right, fish Fishers, Yeah, yeah, and they
were busted. I didn't know had a way of hiding

(11:36):
the fact that we were segregated over here. Yeah, it's
not it's not written out there because you know, we didn't.
We didn't Ali didn't throw dogs at people, you know,
like they did in the South, you know, or we
didn't throw rocks. Black kids. They were going it with
Soto bro like we just tell we just did Soto
things like putting up, putting it in the first Mexican

(11:59):
pitcher in nineteen eighty five after being here for forty
five years. You know stuff like that. Well, it took
at least take a while here. But I didn't know
there was so much. I didn't know that. That's what
I didn't know because when they were thought it, when
they started busting kids that when I was in school,
but I was in I was not bust. But everybody else,

(12:19):
like from a Liso Village was was was almostly like
a lot of black kids living in Liso Village. They
were bussed through SATACOI Junior High School, Bro and over
here in the valley.

Speaker 9 (12:30):
Because that's how those foods met because you know, Angelo
was from the valley South Central.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
The brothers, the drummer in the base player ice Ky
was buzzed to the valley from like so that was
their little mark to kind of for equality, right to
like show other kids a you know, different way of
life or you know not.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Just we wondered how come the bust white kids to
the hood. Imagine Bro, they would have been instead of
yogurt company, they would have been opening up the bench,
corn and tackle places where they to.

Speaker 9 (13:00):
The But the other thing too, with the busting that
they don't talk about was a lot of the They
were doing a lot of that with sports, but that
was to get their teams better, right.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah. We had a guy in the podcast here named
Ruby and Paul, and he was talking about how when
that bussing started, they would seek out the best players
in those black neighborhoods and somehow get them to bus
to their school start Kennedy back. Yeah, dude, what do
you think Kenny High got all those championships back in
the day. So, yeah, I didn't know that they were

(13:33):
getting That's how that band was formed.

Speaker 7 (13:35):
And yeah, they started on club too.

Speaker 6 (13:39):
I mean they came a little after Untouchables, but they
definitely were They definitely like the little brothers to Untouchables initially.

Speaker 9 (13:47):
Because they were forming kind of like the late seventies.
When did the Touchables for him?

Speaker 6 (13:50):
I mean, you know, the late seventies. I mean they
were probably playing in their room. I mean, they weren't
really playing shows until like eighty two or something started
like eighty So the Untouchables were already like a big
deal by the time The Fishbone formed.

Speaker 9 (14:06):
The Fishbones first the self titled record, which is basically
the AP and AEP can.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
You show a mod guy nineteen eighty three? Because when
I saw, I saw, when I saw. When I was
I was at affair called the Alley Street scene back
in the eighties, and I remember seeing two black guys
and they were dressed in mod bro like. They were
dressed very nice. I wanted a dress like that, I

(14:34):
swear to guy, man, I said, I'm either going to
start shoplifting or get a job to get these clothes.
And I never got to dress that way. Maybe I
actually start doing it now. I'm going to start doing
it now. But man, this guy had a guy was dress.
He would wear a nice sharp suit nine viataful suit.
It with a big, nice little collar and the tie,
and he had a trench coat and he had creepers probably,

(14:56):
and he had a hat and I we had a
cool ring and there were just two bla two black dudes.
I never see anybody dressed like that, and they were
just starting there being cool, you know, like this, and
I was like, what the fuck? And then I saw
I looked it up right now with raised fish fishbone.
Because I remember that there was a punk band Plane

(15:17):
when I was a little kid, but the biggest performer
of the night was Stevie Wonder. He performed live and
it was all free. Bro. By the way, it was
all free. Shout out to Tom Bradley.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
Mayor Stevie Wonder and a punk band.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Let me tell you lay back in the days, we
didn't discriminate it, Bro, it was all about the segregation. Bro,
Like this is this is a lineup, bro, TeV, Wonder, Fishbone,
not in that order. The buzz Boys, Uh, the touch
of Bowls and guns n' Roses. Oh man, that's heavy

(15:57):
metal band with the mold. They had the record of
most drums Renegade and and look it up, Bro, how
many drums does the drummers Renegade have? Seventy six?

Speaker 3 (16:10):
And now and Broke Tom Striper, Bro Striper, Yeah, yeah,
I remember gun them roller perform. Bro.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
This goes off to the fucking pigs all over there,
Welcome to the Jungle. But never ever heard that song before, dude,
it was over welcome to and I'm social deperformed too.
But I don't know who they were, Bro, like a
little kotle poser, bro Rock warns on clothes hangers.

Speaker 9 (16:41):
You say they were posers because there's a store on Melrose.
It's still there, it's called posers, and they're the ones
that had all the like all that clothed.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Everyone's a poser. Now I saw a girl wearing a
fucking the Bang shirt and like, whose shirt? She has
to look at it? She didn't know what she was wearing.

Speaker 9 (16:57):
And then the bands were originally the Bengal they became
the Bengals really yeah, they were a punk yeah, and
then they switched them up.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
But also then back then, like a lot of punk
bats are new wave right back in the what's the.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Difference between new wave and no wave?

Speaker 6 (17:13):
No wave was a was a specific scene in New
York that was very punk. It was it was it
was very disant, it was very dissonant, like very didn't
have very much melodies.

Speaker 7 (17:25):
It was very noisy.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
New wave is just sort of a marketing term.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
The no waves would be sugar cubes.

Speaker 7 (17:33):
No no, no.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
The no wave bands in the eighties were super really
really tough to listen to, stuff really obscure, like noise.

Speaker 7 (17:42):
But new wave is just.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Like pop music, nice little catchy formula.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
But new wave would have been like alternative comedy.

Speaker 6 (17:52):
Huh, I mean kind of, because I mean it was
like talking without punchline it was.

Speaker 7 (17:58):
It was like the alternative of the eighties like New Ave.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, because New Way was like the most popular thing.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
Yeah yeah, I mean it was just all the pop
because I gotta be since I was.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Listening to Finish Bone, because I know that they I
saw I read that they did a big show at
Fenders Ballroom. And I never got to go to a
friender's ballroom because you know, my mom was like, that's
devil music and what what are you trying to be this?
Why are you trying to be that? So I really
didn't have so I was talking. I was telling him,
I was telling him hiding and frank on Kello West today.

(18:31):
I didn't have an older brother, broll, and I didn't
have a lot of older friends. You're your own. I
was the older brother of everybody. Bro. I was twelve, Bro,
I'll hang out with four year olds dog grandma picking
up like this. Let me tell you something, mister. They
look up to me. I have two little black friends brother.

(18:52):
They were like I was eight years older and there
they were Rayshan and Lonnie and my mom would my
mom would look at me like like you hang around
with like nechroas, right, But they were like hanging out
with me. And then and then my mom was like,
who kid is it? Already knew their older uncles, she
knew their family, but she didn't know them. They were

(19:13):
like the kids. And then I would I would say,
who is that? Oh, that's ray Sean and Lani. You
know ray Sean and Lani the Dubble Dutch Bus, the
dub Dutch Buck, Rebecca Lolita, ray Shawan and Lan. You
know the song. So the guy name of ray Sean,

(19:34):
guy named Lanni. They were gonna look for me, Bro,
don't we go knocking at my house? Broguesst because they
had older they had older cousins that were older like me,
but they were all old gangsters. Bro. They were all
there like cruising their their l T d s and

(19:55):
you know, just being bad man. But don't come to
my house. And we saw my brother morning.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Ready to hang out.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
And then my mom's at the door, your your Philippe,
your son, and I come out. I go, what's up? Man?
And then like they look at me like the little
kid who Napoleon Dynamite? Bro? So what are you gonna
do today? Napoleon?

Speaker 9 (20:17):
Like that?

Speaker 1 (20:19):
I could be cool around them, and I see but
if I was, Like if I were, I didn't have
a friend like that though, Like I'm pretty sure those
two kids, but I showed them. You know, no one
I was gonna showed them.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
You know.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
I would show those foods like Eddie Murphy. I would
show them by teaching Chong movie. Like I'll tell those kids,
go to your house, man, grab some baloney, bro and
however you got dog, and they'll go to my house.
And my whole family were watching Chong. You never had
anybody to show you the ropes the rose Bro. If
I had to game older my older brother, Bro, Bro,

(20:51):
I would have been playing trombone right now. I would
have been mister Rico, go blow, like Ri, did you
you read the A book came out and in the
two thousands it was like the full story of the
of the specials, the Specials I did. Yeah, you read it.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
I read it. I'm friends with the author.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yes, yeah, I remember reading the book, Bro, and I
will read it. I will tell what I read. And
that shoe, Bro, that mister Rico, he was upset because
he had to help carry that piano up those stairs
because he had the smallest instrument. Damn, he will put
his sacks on top of the piano and they don't

(21:33):
carry it up there, bro.

Speaker 9 (21:35):
Well, Terry and Nevill's were going to carry Did.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
You ever get to meet the band the Specials?

Speaker 6 (21:41):
I met Roddy Radiation and I met Linda before. That's
one of the guitar players.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Where's mister Rico from. He's from Jamaica, Jamaica.

Speaker 6 (21:53):
He's He was played on several of the sixties Scots
recordings because he's a the same generation.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
That's kind of why they got him. They had a
legend in that legend.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
Yeah, and then they put out he put out some
solo records with the Specials backing him because he kind
of got a little bit of notoriety being in the Specials.
Those are some pretty cool.

Speaker 9 (22:13):
Records because that first record, I mean it was produced
by Elvis Costello.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Dude, so you know what he was doing.

Speaker 9 (22:18):
Put this dude on the trombone and you know it's
going to give you that added element.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah. Well, people, for a listener who don't know about Scott,
what is two tone?

Speaker 6 (22:27):
Two tone is like what we kind of refer to
as the British like sca from the late seventies. Two
Tone was the record label that they put out the
stuff that special Specials.

Speaker 7 (22:40):
Yeah, the Specials owned Two Tone. We kind of just
refer to that era.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
As two Tone second coming.

Speaker 6 (22:48):
Yeah, since the first revival. Basically Scott started in the
sixties and then it kind of died and then it
was revived in England by these bands like The Specials,
Madness Bad Mans, the Selector, the English Beat, the Body Snatchers,
and they were like a mix of bands that were
like mods, white kids, Jamaican immigrants, so they were like

(23:12):
racially mixed bands.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
They were culturally mixed.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
I don't know if they were really they were sort
of put together intentionally because they wanted to be.

Speaker 7 (23:22):
Yeah, yeah, they wanted to.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
Like aost like the Sex Persific.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
I wouldn't say it wasn't like it wasn't like a
manager putting together.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
It was more like they.

Speaker 6 (23:31):
Were trying to They were trying to combine like the
scenes and subcultures and so create something new. So they
were mixing punk with ska and reggae and all of that.
So it was like they were trying to create a
new thing. And it was very political and it commented
on like at the time there was the National Front
which was a very racist, anti immigrant party in England

(23:51):
that was starting to game traction. So there was the
Rock against Racism movement was happened just before Two Tone,
and that was like all these punk bands and reggae
bands and alternative bands were trying to speak out against
the racism and the National Front because the National Front
was actively trying to get immigrants kicked out. I mean

(24:12):
sounds familiar, Yeah, yeah, Eric Eric Clapton was pro National Front.
That's why that's a lot of people don't know that
crazy he's a racist face.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
So well, like the people.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Are trying they're trying to kick out from England were
like like Indian people or like.

Speaker 6 (24:30):
It was even before that, well, there was a there
was a big wave of Caribbean immigrants in England in
the fifties and sixties. But but it was like because
Jamaica was a was a colony by England.

Speaker 9 (24:41):
Right, and that's only the natural effect of what happened
when you colonize the place.

Speaker 7 (24:45):
And and they needed they.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Needed to work for immigrants, you know, because they're yeah, yeah, colony,
that's insane.

Speaker 6 (24:51):
So then like there's a recession in the seventies and
so they're like, oh, it's the immigrant's fault.

Speaker 7 (24:56):
It's all the immigrants fault.

Speaker 9 (24:57):
So that was organically all happening in the street. All
that anti I mean there were misfits. They were just
like anti, like what was the establishment? What's going on?
You know, I mean they're rapping about gangsters and ship.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah. So the further interracial band in Britain and Great
Brittarin was called the Equators the English the Equators, Yeah,
Equators Equals, the Equals, the Equals.

Speaker 7 (25:22):
One of the guys.

Speaker 9 (25:23):
A lot of stuff is based off that, just you know,
what they were doing beforehand, you know, kind of carrying
the tourst in another level another way.

Speaker 6 (25:31):
Yeah, there was a guy that one of the guys
from that band had a big hit in the eighties.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Because the whole thing is that.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
From It's it sounds. It came that came out in
the movie Upstart Cowboy. Yeah, it's a wake up in
the morning earleave that one, you know you.

Speaker 6 (25:51):
Think that's yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's technically.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Elements, you know.

Speaker 9 (26:06):
Yeah, it comes from evolution of Reagan and all actually wake.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Up in the morning late And somebody told me.

Speaker 9 (26:16):
Because another guy that is that flo from Chicago, John
Cusack is onto him. That's why I always you know,
has them in their movies and shipped also, so so like.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Like like like bands like the Police when they first started,
I remember like there like it was.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
I remember like I thought Sting was like Jamaican, you know,
because like.

Speaker 7 (26:36):
He's doing the voice.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Yeah, they used to get because I mean I was
always into like I used to watch like h one
clas when I was in high school of each one classics.
So I was always into like seventy seven punk, you know,
like seventies punk and something like. So I remember like
yeah when I found I mean, because the Police was
then they turned.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Came out of that.

Speaker 6 (26:55):
They they were they were like people made fun of
them and said they were face punk because they were
like because he was like an English teacher.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
Not the music video don't stand. Yeah, that's apt.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
But they were like really into reggae and they definitely
and then but everyone was in the reggae at that
time in England, like reggae was so popular. There was
like British reggae bands, there was non British Britain reggae
bands were incorporating reggae. It was just all over. So
of course the police is like a rendition of their representation.
They're the most pop version of that of that time.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
I want, you know, a reggae band called Z Gay Bro.
I wound up being sated.

Speaker 6 (27:50):
That.

Speaker 9 (27:51):
But yeah, it's funny you say that because a lot
of dudes would be like, you know, well, the whole
defense is sku.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
You know, dude, it's just bro.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
You were like when you were doing your reseal for
your book. Yeah, did you go to Texas and check
out the Texas?

Speaker 6 (28:07):
I didn't know, but I did go. I did go
to Mexico.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
You know them?

Speaker 7 (28:16):
I know that.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Gobi a city rock that's I got.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
I gotta find this video, dude.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
He lost Caylan. We were a city. We were party
with those guys.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, we're at the Houston improv a carnal.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
It's a little video together, kind of.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Like no dog My ban of Carnal around. Huh.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
Yeah the nineties, right, they're still around.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
They're still around.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Cadillacs is that com Man? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (28:45):
They started a sky Yeah, from Argentina. They kind of
moved into other styles, but yeah, they were straight up
scot Man when they started and they were like one
of the first like Latin American sky bands.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (28:58):
Yeah, so like inspect that's an Inspector.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Sure, Oh yeah, where's the band Inspect from? They're big
tu huh.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
They came huge, bro, I mean enormous.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (29:11):
They had a couple of hits that were massive.

Speaker 9 (29:14):
And they're pretty They're they're pretty big. I mean opening
up for Voodoo, opening up for them.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
I mean when I was on your podcast, I wanted
to tell you about this big concert and you know,
another year hear you could tell you more about it,
that big concert that Woodo went to with with that
big sky band in Peru or Peru or where were
that at, dude? I mean whether with the guy who
did it was that guy from the Ramones.

Speaker 9 (29:40):
Oh with the Independence, the Independence, well they were weren't
somewhere in South America where it's just a huge I
mean Independence and it kind of dropped off.

Speaker 6 (29:49):
Haven't really heard the band Independence, yeah from like they're
like from the South South.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:55):
They so they were.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Joe Ramone was their manager.

Speaker 6 (29:58):
Joey Ramone is their manager. They were kind of like
this almost like Gothy sca thing.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, like them meets Danzig.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
And I saw them I saw them on the last
tour before Joey Ramone died, because he toured with them
and he would get on stage and.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Sing and he'll do a couple of remote songs.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (30:15):
Yeah, so I saw that.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
I saw that.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yeah, he did that at the Roxy with Voodoo.

Speaker 7 (30:19):
Yeah that's crazy.

Speaker 6 (30:21):
Yeah, I don't I never hear them come up, but
they were a great band.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
They kind of like, I don't know what happened, dude,
Like they're kind of like phase. They're not doing it anymore. Yeah,
Myrtle Beats is the last thing I heard about them.
There's their singer was out there.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Because I thought there was was a big band in Peru.
That's that's go and that's who the the main guy
was or that when we want to do the show.

Speaker 9 (30:42):
Because one of the big I mean it's them now
in in in Latin America. Yeah, like when those Iris,
I know they I mean they've done Costa Rica all
that stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
But telling a band that's from yeah, in America, that's big,
a big scot band, I know.

Speaker 6 (30:56):
I know from Jaws.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
There's Intrepol.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Six Extineo Vieja Skinas because.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
The other one is but they're from Mexico.

Speaker 7 (31:11):
Do you know from Venezuela, you know Destor in public?

Speaker 1 (31:15):
No, they're big, they're.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
Big, They're.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
I'm trying to scan my brain right now, nothing's clicking.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
But yeah, man, so.

Speaker 6 (31:25):
You you were at this festival.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
No, he was telling me about it. You were at it.

Speaker 9 (31:29):
Yeah, I've never been with a with Voodoo. Latin America's
just been in the States. Yeah, but I mean ship
you know what I'm thinking, like, it's with thora nothing
that they're super huge. I mean those are not the
biggest fucking festivals.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Oh yeah, he crazy.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah is an American man?

Speaker 9 (31:45):
No, Mexicans called man from They got super huge, influenced
by Voodoo and it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (31:54):
See you how long did you tour with Voodoo?

Speaker 3 (31:56):
I toured with you pretty much. High school was like
ninety six.

Speaker 9 (31:59):
I did a tour toured them in ninety eight, and
another tour in two thousand and two thousand and one,
and those like the official you know, going on tour
for thirty forty you know, thirty thirty five dates and
then you know, but also I was like fifteen, like
going with them like the.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Movie uh almost famous bros.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Cameron crowd dude.

Speaker 9 (32:19):
But I always used just going like one office of
Santa Barbara, you know, coming back, going up up North Frisco,
coming back, stuff like that. But yeah, man, And like
I told you in like ninety six, I want with
them to Puerto Rico and it was they did a
big as arena which was with the toasters and mesascophleies,
and I mean that that was crazy, you know, sponsored
by Butterweiser.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Dude, the King of beers king.

Speaker 9 (32:41):
Yeah, exactly, yeah, damn dude, but yeah, dude. And then
working at the record store from like ninety four to
two thousand till like the end of it.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (32:50):
Man, it's got some sky roots right here.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
But they had the I mean they had the sort mescalito.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Manam, it's been a long time. Somebody mentioned Budweiser. It
was that water.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
You say it's Mexican champagne.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I can't get drunk off that.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
You're crazy, bro, what you drink ten?

Speaker 1 (33:12):
But you could get junko?

Speaker 5 (33:15):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Did somebody give me a free casey?

Speaker 9 (33:19):
I think me and Roxanne shared a twelve pac one day.
I think we drank ten beer buzz you drank ten, No,
I drink probably like seven and she drank three but
you you weren't drunk though, well a couple of little
shots of bourbon. I was drunk, but yeah, but is
pretty pretty heavy.

Speaker 7 (33:33):
You drink, uh time to time.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
You know.

Speaker 7 (33:37):
My dad drank when I was a kid consistently cours.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Wow. But he drank in the seventies. Huh, eighties like eighties. Yeah,
they have more alcohol back then.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, when the when the can was yellow, Yeah, the
yellow you remember? Yeah, silver that's like river Nazi beer now.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Cores a gold one, remember, Yeah, told g you one
the black littering Yeah, and the apostrophe.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
So we got to do a little study with you.
But like you do a challenge here to see how
many what do you drink?

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:11):
What do you drink?

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Just like pas?

Speaker 4 (34:13):
For me, it's always been like shok tops, bro, like
shot tops you. Yeah, blue boons are blue moons are good?
Bros are It's hasty, bro many blue woons?

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Ago?

Speaker 7 (34:23):
I know when I when I drink now it's like
double I. P as are so.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Or what?

Speaker 7 (34:28):
Yeah, you can't do it for too many because you're
so strong.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Yeah, yeahs are strong.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
And you don't know what a tree tastes like?

Speaker 1 (34:37):
I love it, Bro, like, Bro, I know man, Like, hey, bro,
you want when I was a care but you ga,
we drank forties man like old English.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Yeah, one of old English will suck you up, though.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Bro, you drank one forty because you don't want to
share with nobody. Bro, you bring a six people the
six back down, everybody takets a beer. It's over you
a forty ounce. You drink your bro, and make sure
everybody looking at you, and you put some of it
on your mouth back inside. You put your tongue in
the bron like that, and then nobody wants one. But

(35:11):
every once in a while, Bro, somebody goes pour me.
So bro got a cup.

Speaker 9 (35:16):
And that's and that's me man, And that's mold right there.
You know, it's like different than Beard Star.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I thought it was all it's all stupid, how I
thought it was all bad ass bro, Like I didn't
need to watch imagine. I'm just glad that I never
watched those shows to like emulate how bad they were
and then put that in my life. If I would
have watched Tony Soprano when I was drinking, it would
have been over bro. But I was just giving me

(35:42):
a forty ounce of old English with a little red
cup that just be pouring it like a champagne.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
You like that elegance, Doug.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
So when I was reading this the bookish fish fish
Bone influenced, no doubt. They sound the same, Bro, I
was just listening earlier.

Speaker 6 (36:04):
Now, No, Gwen Gwen Stefani has said before that Angelo
Morris her number one influence.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, the same beat almost like the same one, the
same kind of like they put Fishbone sky is a
little bit different than the Sky of the Special, than
Madness or like a party scene.

Speaker 6 (36:25):
Yeah, and faster and faster yeah, yeah, like voo like Yeah.
I mean I think Fishbone influenced every every American band
that came out after Hell. Bro, that's like, that's the
that's the band, that's.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
What is Orange County SKA. That's no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 7 (36:48):
Fish well there.

Speaker 6 (36:50):
I mean, I don't know where they're from. Yeah, so
that's I mean, there was big scene in the Orange
County in the nineties, all those bands, and they got
pretty popular.

Speaker 7 (37:04):
So but you know, Fishbone.

Speaker 6 (37:06):
Was that that was the better band, that was the
best band.

Speaker 7 (37:10):
I mean, Fishbone was the band.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
The blueprint, Yeah, the first three records, I mean yeah,
ap that truth and soul and you know in your face.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
I saw Fishbone when they annoy with Fishbone. I just
know the guy with a mohawk, and they opened up
for the for the Beastie boys and run in and
see at the Greek Theater of nineteen eighty something I
never forgets. I saw them twice and they threw me
off the field. I told we snook in. I passed

(37:41):
by the Greek the other day and they block it off.
Bro I can't. I used to go through the Greek
and go through the side like I'm hiking, right before
they close the park, and then with a ton of
concert stars, I'm like on top watching the whole console.
At this from Griffith on the Abloratory.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
Used tell score Broke.

Speaker 6 (38:02):
So Rigo so so he Rorigo's friends with a friend
of mine named Kevin Dill.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, Kevin Dillon.

Speaker 7 (38:08):
So I know Kevin's what.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
He was.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
He was Cank and Pickles, Roady. That's how that was
the connection. Forever it is Cank and Pickle.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Remember you were playing, yeah, listening to them on YouTube.

Speaker 7 (38:22):
So you know, do you know the voodoo song Empty Bottles?

Speaker 6 (38:25):
Yeah, you know the beginning where he goes put a
rudy in his place, smash a fucking bottle in his face.

Speaker 7 (38:32):
That's Kevin Dill, Pieces of Ship and then.

Speaker 9 (38:35):
Goes into that hell yeah, yeah, man, Kevin Dill dog
very a legend right there, He's legend. He was terrorizing
everybody for years, dude. But yes, Kank and Pickle, man,
fucking it's so crazy, and I.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Mean we're there now.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
They're not around.

Speaker 9 (38:53):
Anymore, just because it's just like, you know, there's a
lot of you know, sad things that happened. Somebody you know,
passed away to their own life. And he still has
his record label Asian Man Records. He does his band
and stuff he has. Yeah, he has a lot of
you know to do with that whole scene and keeping
it going.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
But uh, they they.

Speaker 9 (39:10):
Actually were gonna do the theme song to Margaret Shows,
a TV show, but then the studio or the they
told him not, they're not gonna do it. But she
was like their biggest, one of their biggest pioneers.

Speaker 6 (39:21):
Yes, she had a sitcom in the nineties called All
American Girl, but originally she was trying to get it
to be called the Margaret Chose Show. So Skika Pickle
wrote the Margaret Show show theme song, and then the
State studio was like, no, we're not gonna use that.
And also, we don't think you're a big enough name
to have your name be in the name of the show.

Speaker 7 (39:40):
It's got to be something different.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
So ABC myth thought on that one Margaret was like
Margaret Bargain show's name. The Margaret Show Show would have
had every Asian American in the country because all American
girl just you think it's gonna be a show about
a white girl, yeah, totally, or you never think it's

(40:06):
gonna be an Asian person.

Speaker 6 (40:07):
Well, they obviously got nervous because they never I don't
think they've been in the Asian sitcom before. They were
probably like really nervous that time.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
It was just like it was Pioneer Show.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
It's just karate Kid, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
That and what else.

Speaker 9 (40:21):
I mean, so going that woman, the one, the chubby guy,
that the Asian dude that was on the but that
was like it wasn't a total agent show, but it
was like, you know, kind of like a player.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
That cops show.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yeah, that Cops show.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
That was That was it though, But I mean, na
Hannah Barbara made a show called The Chank clan. It
was kind of it looked like Scooby It was called
the Chanklin Like who whole Chinese family they solved mysteries.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Isn't there a scene in it but pope fiction? Or
is that Chank clan right there? Or no?

Speaker 2 (40:50):
On YouTube?

Speaker 1 (40:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
You can find the Chank Clan on YouTube. It's like
the It's like the Asian Scooby Doo. It was like
ahead of its time, bro. And then if you get
up on YouTube, the theme song is I mean, there's
a gong, you know.

Speaker 9 (41:04):
But it's like if she was around a time with
San Francisco I mean, dude, it was like, you know,
bleeding Asian people, I mean culture.

Speaker 5 (41:11):
And all that.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
That's where they meant to the fucking fortune cookie bro
in San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Way.

Speaker 6 (41:17):
You know, Margaret did my show in Defense podcast and
she said her favorite band is Fishmo. It goes back
to fish Pon.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Oh you can't funk with him, dude, Pioneers. Bro.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
It's funny.

Speaker 9 (41:32):
They did a cover of date Rape Sublime date Rape
and you know, I mean Sublime is huge or whatever
you want to say.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
But when they did the cover of date Rape, it's
like this is what date rape is supposed to sound like.

Speaker 9 (41:45):
Yeah, I mean I know a lot of people talk
to that it's not, but it is.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Who wrote the song Sublime?

Speaker 9 (41:52):
I mean there was their biggest hit, kind of like
how Sublime became Sublime, but when they did a cover
of it.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Just you know, it's just the souls there.

Speaker 9 (42:00):
I mean, I can't really go a little rapist.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
They caught Lightning in a bottle?

Speaker 5 (42:07):
Yeah, man, I like how Carock plays the same three songs.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Over Broy're still around, Yeah, Carocks around, but Sublimes around.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Now the.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Morning Now.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
I think one of the one of them that's.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
It that used to be the gold to back in
the day.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah, I mean they kind of they they they They
gave a lot of life to Scott too, like Fishbone,
Sublime and everything you know.

Speaker 6 (42:37):
And back in the day like whatever Ki Rock was playing.
So did the radio stations all across the country.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Cara were the only station that played why Lies Driven
Snow going through my mind? The more I hear, the
more I do.

Speaker 9 (42:54):
I don't know, but why in another cool thing Rodney
on the Rock, he gave a lot of you know,
opportunities of band.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Businessman gets caught with twenty five kilos. He's out of
bail and out of jail, and that's the way it goes.
A street kid gets arrested. He's gonna do sometime. He
got out three years from now, just to commit more crime.

(43:25):
Don't do it, baby, that Grandmaster Flash white Lines, which
is a big fucking sample from a song from the
seventies called oh Man. It's the same beat, craft work,
not that craft work. It's called why it's called white
lines too. It's called white Lines and it's the same beat.

(43:47):
But Grandmaster Flash. Can you play a little bit of
the original White Lines without getting in trouble?

Speaker 3 (43:53):
But you know, did you watch the Playing.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
My Phone the Boss Came movie with David Boy where
he plays a fucking artists.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, Liquid Liquid's cavern Liquids Cavern is the name of
the song, the original. But you know that, I want
to talk about Grandmaster Flash.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Liquid But the movie in Bosca they played that song
a lot.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Yeah that's original, right, Yeah, that's the original.

Speaker 5 (44:24):
Baby, don't never stop play the Liquid one. It'll never
come down.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Don't don't do it, baby. I didn't know that. When
him and I we were we're touring. We did a
show in Baker's Field and Fresno and Santa Maria and
a friend of ours had the Special's Greatest Hits, the
CD double double side, and we listened to the album. Man,

(44:50):
we played it back and forth. We were we were
always come for a three years straight. And I didn't
know that Guns and Number Ruin was done by the
scatter Lights and because of was a natural, real song,
goods no road. You ever met the Skylights scatter Lights,

(45:14):
I've met I met this d dude.

Speaker 6 (45:18):
There's one guy who's like like the white guy in
the band ken Or. I can't remember his name, but
he's like the manager and he plays keyboards since the eighties.

Speaker 7 (45:26):
I mean, I know him, but I've never met the
other members.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
What's their story? What are they reggae or sky or
they're they're the Sky Pioneer first.

Speaker 6 (45:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So a lot of those guys before
the scot Lights was the scot Lights. They were all
the studio musicians playing on all the records. Because all
those early skot records, you know, they'd get a singer,
they'd get these studio musicians. They would cut records just
one after another because they would try to cut him out.

Speaker 7 (45:55):
So fast.

Speaker 6 (45:56):
So eventually they were like the go to studio guys.
So they sort of formed their own group, the Scott Lights,
because they were the best of the best, and so
Scott had been around already, but they were like I
would say that when they became a band, they sort
of perfected how Scot sounded because they're the best.

Speaker 9 (46:15):
Because they were doing like kind of like covers of
American songs, right yeah, yeah, and then it became that's
what it became, like their own song.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
And I mean they staple that.

Speaker 6 (46:21):
Sound, and Lloyd nib the drummer for Scott Lights, I
mean he's like, I mean, that's where that Scott beat
comes from. Then everyone tries to play I mean he's
no one's ever done it better than Lloyd.

Speaker 9 (46:31):
Nib almost like kind of like with you know, like
Crash the Crooked beat or whatever, but they're just trying
to really cratch it.

Speaker 6 (46:41):
So yeah, on our on our podcast, you were talking
about yeah, yeah, you're talking about Toots and the May Tolls,
how you had the tape stuck in your car.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yea for the entire d the car about a card
dollars four Granada. I had a great deal my pillow
mom used to work at the dealership and somebody, old man,
brought in the car the trade in, so I don't
know what what he got a deal, they they they

(47:16):
he got two hundred for it, I guess, but he
took the trade in. There's a piece of shit car.
But the dealership painted it back to the great the
way I used to look, and they polytics, fixed the tires,
clean out the engine and I got everything. He was
done five hundred dollars. No, I think I paid three
hundred bucks. Made a deal. Four Gada nineteen seventy nine.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
How long did you have it?

Speaker 7 (47:41):
For?

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Probably three years? And they had a cassette deck. The
problem was that had a cassette deck that you couldn't
take out without breaking the whole thing. It was connected
to the car and there was a cassette deck stuck
in there. I could to hear the radio, but every
time I played the cassette it was lower lower lois
lois Lo. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
That looks so cool.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Yeah, because they.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Were cool, fucking cool.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
I'll see like a little.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
War at nineteen seventy nine, there is there.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Look, Ray's got it, you know bench huh a bucking seat.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Talking about pat By Mexican kid. They were wrong, Bro,
that the dad was coming.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
It was like a Caddy. Bro, What the fuck dude?

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Yeah, Bro was like that dude. That was tank Bro
at the cruzal Venez Beach Bro listening to the MATEX.
I had no choice.

Speaker 6 (48:29):
My first car, Honda Civic nineteen seventy nine. My dad
got it for five hundred bucks.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Wow, it was.

Speaker 6 (48:37):
It was cool until it just sucks. Like two years.
It was like a cool car and then it just
stopped working.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Set out my first car, Man Look seventy nine Coop
de Bill Cadillac black two door Baby.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
Yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
All the clothes are being clothed, right car.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
The back seats made for sex bro.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
It was made for sex bro to buy a bite
from somebody who had sex.

Speaker 6 (49:15):
You bust.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Look at that green one, Bro, look at it was
exactly like that green one, but black. And I had
exactly like that, exactly like that, but the interior was
red because I bought it from black dude, and it
was all red and the interior. Bro and I had.
I had the back I had. I had the cheap

(49:39):
Man hydraulics. It was already in the car. It was
a it was a it had a pump on the
back like like like it was like a like like
for a tire, and it would I had that little
pig that comes out of a tire when you pump
air and had one on the other side and one
on the other side. Now we go to the gat
station and freed it up and the rise like this,

(50:01):
bro and I'd be like this car using two thousand.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Dollars for that car cigaret like crazy right, it's.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Like everything broad diapers pick up envelopes and that that
car lasted. I drove that car for a good three months.
I didn't put no, I didn't know about cars. I'm
never putting the oil.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Water, just keeping the water.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
And then the drive and then the drive shaft broke.
Damneway bron that goes like that and then it broke
down and you know that little pole that pains the
whole car. That ship found the freeway, Broo, give a
drive them from her out and scraping the back was

(50:47):
still moving, bro because the thing but at the front
tie war moving dog. So I was just.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
In that movie Fury bro that takes and hew.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
It's so help people who want to ride or happy
to get a ride to your car bridge down in
front of everybody. Broll, I'm gonna cut the bus. Dog
bring you My friends caught the bus Bro that day,
and I had a friend of Native Americans shout out
to Russ, so he passed away. I went to it.
He didn't mind a battow and he was cool. Bro.

(51:21):
I'm a dang bro many moons like I left my
car in his garage for a year.

Speaker 9 (51:26):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
They didn't even give him a dime.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
That carbon and poisoning.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
He wanted it there at that point, Bro, he wanted
to catalyts. Just gave it him.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Bro applied. Bro.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Anyway, I fixed a drive shaft and I sold it. Bro,
who did you get for a thousand?

Speaker 6 (51:41):
A thousand?

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Not bad man? Something?

Speaker 5 (51:43):
Are those cars so around to this day? Because they
must be worth so much money.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
You get that car, Bro, you're gonna put one hundred
and two hundred dollars gas? Yeah, Bro, that the motor,
the engine is a four to twenty five.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Those cars can't take the gas downa days, it's different.
That's what they would call gas gas back in the day.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Bro. You put good gas in that car. Bro, that
car catch on fire. That's what happened to my friend
when he bought the carboy caught on fire. Bro, you
told me a death trap?

Speaker 3 (52:13):
What because you know, said a death trap little pinto
like that.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
But that was all racist too.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
Goddamn they all.

Speaker 9 (52:26):
Do you know what's thinking about what you're saying about
those stadiums that big band. What I think what I
was telling you is, uh, Joey Ramone was independence manager.
But the Ramone would go to market Ramone, they would pay,
they would play stadiums you know out here, you know obviously,
but still like up there there were you know, you know,
God's gift to the world.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
What can people find your book right now? In defense
of SKA Aaron canes Amazon, Bro.

Speaker 6 (52:52):
You can go to Amazon, you can go to bookshop
dot org, and you can go to your local bookstore
and either they'll have it or you can order it.

Speaker 7 (53:00):
And same with your library.

Speaker 6 (53:02):
If you don't want to buy it, that's fine, just
order it the library and then have the library buy
it for them.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Also, show out to that stupid lady I saw interviewing
people during a riot and then she goes, how come
writers never break into libraries and take books or still books?
You know why bitch, because when I when I took
those ten cell phones, there was a two thousand libraries
in each of one of them. That's why when I'm still,

(53:33):
when I when someone is still the cell phone, they could
just look up what citious the Van Eys Bannight Public
Library and guess what shows up all the libraries of
Van Eye and guess what, lady. They could just take
off books from my there also free books are on
our phone. Why would I carry nine books that are
hard to carry when I could just take ten cell

(53:55):
phones easy to carry, You dumb bitch.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
Messing up your back and shit.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
I hate when people come up with a narrative how
they there is still books.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
They break into the shoe stores, but they never take
work boots.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Yeah nobody, nobody was still the equipment. You know what,
people are still, lady, during the riots, they still DJ equipment.
They're still saxophones. And that's how god band gets started.

Speaker 7 (54:18):
Yeah, there's a lot of money to get horns, full horns.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
They actually have them played good too.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Though.

Speaker 6 (54:30):
Then an audible it's yeah, I did an audio book
last years. Yeah, I recorded it down here. Didn't buy
that ship right now?

Speaker 9 (54:41):
And what what made you write it because it's a
defensive skull. I remember, just look at the title, you know,
defensive call cross out sucks because Propagandhi had that one
song used to say Scott sucks.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Right, But it's like you're playing it, so how can suck?

Speaker 1 (54:56):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (54:58):
So I mean I think, like from my point of
view as a SKA fan and eventually a music journalist,
I don't know that Scott's really been taken super seriously
or really given its dues. So I wrote the book
not only to like kind of celebrate Scot, but also
to kind of push back. It's on night on this
idea that SKA is like maybe lesser than music, you know,

(55:20):
I think it's SCA's amazing.

Speaker 9 (55:21):
So because the way it's looked at, I think at
times it's been more like a fad or like novelty.

Speaker 6 (55:26):
You know exactly. So, but that's not how I view it.
I view it as like like I you know, I
love it. I love Scott, I love you know, I
love the current versions, I love the nineties versions.

Speaker 7 (55:36):
I love the old stuff. I think it's all valid.

Speaker 6 (55:38):
So that was the point of the book is to
say that, but really it's just tons and tons of
stories and just tons of documenting of scuss interviews. Yeah,
and mostly it's like mostly it's like American ska from
after two tone. That's because that's the stuff I documented.
But I also documented the Mexican discuss you know, in
Mexico as well, because partly because I was documenting the

(55:59):
East La scene. Because the East La scosscene is huge.

Speaker 7 (56:04):
It's massive.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
They have like like these like festivals that are like
thousands of people will come and they have all these
local bands. It's like the biggest scossen local sco scene
in the US. And it's all it's like mostly Latino kids, right,
and so they're kind of connected to the scene.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
In Mexico, like and they carry it.

Speaker 6 (56:23):
The bands will play there and they'll play down there
and stuff. So and I think it's amazing.

Speaker 7 (56:27):
So and I did.

Speaker 6 (56:29):
I went to I went to Mexico to see a
SCA festival when I was writing the book.

Speaker 7 (56:34):
I went to actually went.

Speaker 6 (56:35):
To Wahawka and I saw what they considered a small festival,
which was like eight to ten thousand people.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Damn yeah, I know.

Speaker 6 (56:44):
It was a Tijuana No played sector Core.

Speaker 9 (56:50):
And out of that band, So you have let the
that came out of there. Yeah, you can see Bestie
that played in that band. So I mean a lot
of like cool shit has come out of that scene.

Speaker 6 (57:02):
That's probably one of the best Scott punk songs out
of Mexico, which Juliet that was in the band when they.

Speaker 9 (57:10):
Were Yeah, and that's even before she did her little
solo stuff from TJ.

Speaker 6 (57:15):
So yeah, that's where she got her start. She was
she was a kid when she joined t want to Know,
So she kind of started out in the sort of
the punk sko thing and then she went on to
be a pop star.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
I have a poster that I bought remember that Rockaway
Records here in Silver Lake. I know you've been there.
They just have a lot of a lot of memorabilia, cool,
cool ass ship. So before I forget, I bought up.
I'm a big scot fan back then, and I bought
a I bought a concert poster and they had it

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was real big Fishney my Bostones and I forgot the
other band. But I only got it because I had
the Minami Bostons on it. Because I have met the guy,
the lead singer, Mickey Berry. I met him at the

(58:10):
k rock Weenie Roast Acoustic k Rocky Roast Luau and
we took a picture together like this and I have
a lay oh yeah, and they were playing that song
money My Boston's. Yeah, what's that? What's that Boston scot scene? Like?
When they started? Where did they get started at Money
Money Boss?

Speaker 6 (58:30):
They got started pretty they were really young and they
started in the eighties. Yeah, yeah, they started out. They
were like kids.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
They formed the Whole Surfer was the headliner of that show,
remember right now on the poster.

Speaker 6 (58:43):
But before before Miney Mighty Boston's, the first bigger band
of the Boston was the bim Skulla bim Oh.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Yeah, you play some of them real fast without getting
in trouble.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Bi yeah, old school bro.

Speaker 7 (58:58):
Yeah, they're super good.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Ska la man. That's the that's the original ones from Boston.

Speaker 6 (59:07):
They came before Mighty Mighty Bostones. But yeah, the Bostons
came out. I think they were just called the Bostones originally,
and then it became the Mighty Money Boss Toones. They
broke up and then they reformed in eighty nine and
then they then they were kind of a serious band
at that point. They got signed to Tang Records right away,
and then the.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Last couple of records were like on period all right, yeah,
we can't get in trouble.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
They got there, all right. Yeah. So so you.

Speaker 6 (59:33):
Guys like like so the the punkin SKA scene and
metal scenes to it in like the backyards and like
East La and Boyle Heights and Linwood.

Speaker 7 (59:42):
Did you guys ever go to these shows?

Speaker 1 (59:44):
I did? Yeah, yeah, ours was that our punk scene
was at the Sheridan element They called it the Sheridan
because of the cross tree from the Sheridan Elementary School
and Boil Heights and it was somebody's backyard and they
have a lot of punk shows every Friday night.

Speaker 6 (59:58):
Because a lot of that, like it was a big
like a lot of that's a lot of the Scots
scene in this area.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
I always saw white kids in Boyle heighs bro I've
never seen white kids too. I saw them at that
punk scene and they all came from burd Bank, I think.

Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
Well. In twenty fifteen, I I read an article for
Playboy about the sort of this scene and I went
to a festival called sky Wars and it was at
Plaza Dela, Yeah, Nick and Heights, Yeah, yeah, and it
was like it was amazing. It was like, well was
this twenty fifteen, and like what impressed me? They had

(01:00:33):
like a lot of local bands, a few bands from Mexico,
but like the audience was so young, Like it wasn't
a bunch of old people.

Speaker 9 (01:00:40):
That the audience was yeah, like fifteen sixty yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
no older than twenty twenty one.

Speaker 6 (01:00:45):
Hey, And it was like probably ninety percent Latino kids
and then maybe other you know for the ten percent.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
Maybe like five years ago I was doing Yeah, I
was even lived and I was picking up these kids
from like this backyard gig, uh because I just we're
going to like backyard punk gigs back in the day,
like yeah, like in the mid two thousands, but I
picked up kids like in twenty twenty from these backyards
and like it was for SKA bands.

Speaker 5 (01:01:10):
I'm like, oh my gosh, it's making a comeback. So
there's like a new which going on.

Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
Yeah, it's been it's been a thing here since like
the two thousands.

Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
Central Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:01:21):
Yeah, shout out shout out. Clemente Luiz, who books a
ton of the shows, including sky Wars, Clemente Rees, Clemente
Luiz he's the man. He's also now he's the photographer
for the Deaftones.

Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
Yeah yeah, because damn so Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
When I used to go to the band itself, right.

Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of is Itensia yeah, which they're
actually playing I think pretty soon.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
When I used to go to backyard gigs, like in
like the late two thousands, mid two thousands, uh, it
was like a lot of punk bands and there's this
one Battles coming up, and then they ended up opening
up for Julian Cosa Blanca's for the singer for the
Strokes Funeral Party and they're known for being from from
Wittier and now like they're they're like the Cindent, the
hometown band from the East l A funeral Party. I'm

(01:02:10):
not sure it's still around, but they're they're pretty cool.

Speaker 9 (01:02:12):
Dude's humboy goes by Clement the three three one Oh right.

Speaker 6 (01:02:16):
Yeah, Evil Corp. Evil Core is the company he used
he books out of.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Okay, Yeah, but.

Speaker 9 (01:02:22):
No matter what, all these areas never like, you know, metal,
they never forgot about metal, and I've never forgot about metal.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
I never forgot about punk.

Speaker 9 (01:02:29):
It's always like the whole di I y, the whole
would you want to say like underneath the radar.

Speaker 6 (01:02:33):
You know metal with The interesting thing is like if
you go like to Latin America or Mexico or Latino
neighborhoods here ska metal huge, like with with with elsewhere,
it's like kind of rises and falls with.

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
To Go bro They fucking love metal brod.

Speaker 6 (01:02:53):
No, yeah, huge, the just massive shows.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
So there's a This is a comedian from Mexico City.
He tells us that what's called the who is this twist?

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
His sister were, no, We're not gonna take it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
But Mexico they don't know, like they don't they don't
know how to translate it really well. So they say, well,
I say, I say, Who's like well school and so
that's what it sounds like. But that's what people yell
in Mexico. Well was.

Speaker 6 (01:03:30):
This guy I interviewed one of the guys I interviewed
in my book. He's from this l a band called Ras.
They were more of like rocking espaniol They played some ska.
But I was asking him, like why are these styles
of music like consistently popular in like Mexico and here
in East LA. But like kind of go in and
out of fashion, you know, with the rest of the country.

(01:03:52):
And he's like, he's like and I love his quote.
He's like Anglos, they're really into trends. But us Latinos,
we love what we love and we never stop. And
that's true Scott too.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
Yeah, yeah, you mean like a Mexican metal guy fucking
Fierro Jonah's this guy like he's like this guy like
he's in metals metal since high school, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:04:15):
And this guy like I don't give a play metal.
Bro played rock, you know, Like this guy is like
hardcore dude.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
I got a squadron.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
The Misfits. Bro. Oh yeah, bro check this out?

Speaker 7 (01:04:31):
Bro, what you got?

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
I'm going to tell you about these?

Speaker 7 (01:04:37):
Oh nice?

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Henry loves Glenn bro mean a.

Speaker 9 (01:04:43):
Little love story on the only collection.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
They're all about Henry Rollin and Glenn Danzig bro. And
they live together at Lovers and their neighbors are hollering notes,
who made these?

Speaker 6 (01:05:00):
Did you make these?

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
No, no, that's just popular.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
It's popular. Yeah, man, it's gone Henry, Henry and Glenn forever.
And they did little cartoons grow about their lives fake
and this is episode one is it's just Glenn running
his diary about how sad he is that Henry's on

(01:05:25):
the road and he's.

Speaker 6 (01:05:26):
Not my friend.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Oh yeah, bro was the reason I got into acting.

Speaker 6 (01:05:33):
I'm one of my friends is a writer named Dan Aussie.
He's obsessed with Glenn danzig house because it's just insane looking,
and so he always takes friends that are in town
to the house and he takes their photo in front
of it. And so he just put out a zcene
like last year of all his photos of friends in

(01:05:53):
front of Glenn Danzig's house. Where is that?

Speaker 5 (01:05:55):
What city is that in?

Speaker 7 (01:05:58):
It's down here is yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Really?

Speaker 6 (01:06:00):
Uhm, it's like yeah, there you go. See it's just
it's crazy looking.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
That was like that was like you like kick your
ball over like that's it, you lost it, you know,
like now you get your football back.

Speaker 6 (01:06:18):
And the plants are just like all overgrown. Yeah, it's
just like crock right there.

Speaker 9 (01:06:25):
Wait for a little hot rod from a from the
Monthster to show up.

Speaker 6 (01:06:29):
When Bob Marley was in that within that band, was
that a ska bad initially?

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Yeah, the other band, not the Waiter, but when it
was in a regular band.

Speaker 7 (01:06:37):
He has a band before the Whalers.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Know the Whaler when they were thinking, just when they
were in suits.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
That was the beginning of ska right there.

Speaker 6 (01:06:43):
That was between the rock steady, right, so it goes
ska and then then then it became rock steady.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
It was rock steady music like it's just I mean,
it's in the morning late that Scott, I think that.

Speaker 6 (01:06:58):
I think that was more rock steady. Keep it reggae,
and so is mate is well they got so they
started they all started like it kind of all did Scott,
and then it kind of turned into rocks.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Reggae before I always thought it was reggae first.

Speaker 9 (01:07:17):
Look at that, U the original box said of Bob
Martin the Whalers, if you the first song, yeah, I
went to the I'm talking about just recorded like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Bob Marley's early stuff. The roots bro when he was
wearing were wearing suits.

Speaker 6 (01:07:34):
It was Peter Toshy, Benny Whaler, the three of them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Because that stuff happened, Peter Tugg became being on his own.

Speaker 7 (01:07:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:07:41):
Yeah, the fucking the bullshit happened with him. But all
that ship happened after World War two, you know what
I mean. It's like because that all got influenced by
like R and B and like, yeah, after World War Two,
they had the radio transmission stuff coming out of Miami
and all that ship and then there were you know,
bringing all that ship to other and creating their own
little shit that was happening on the streets organically.

Speaker 7 (01:08:04):
You know, you know, it was cool.

Speaker 6 (01:08:05):
Is cool in that same era are kind of a
little before that era, the sound systems in Jamaica was
the thing. So these DJs were the rock stars. They
would get records and they would try to get records
that no one had. So they would have these guys
go up to America to New Orleans and they would
try to find the best like R and B cuts
bin and come back and so then they would scratch

(01:08:26):
off the label so that the other DJs couldn't have
no idea who it was, so they couldn't get their
own version of it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:32):
So they would have exclusives.

Speaker 9 (01:08:35):
They're basically just having so that sounds system having DJ sets,
And that's when it came with this fool was talking
about the Statellites and those fools were the players, and
then it started coming up with their.

Speaker 6 (01:08:44):
Own Yeah, they like so they wanted like that's where
they started making a lot of these cuts in the
studio because it's some of the people who were the
DJs were also running the studios, and so they would
like just try to turn out recordings so they could
have their exclusive songs.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
So like well like like Banns like the English be
they ended up being more mainstream, like when they turned
into like what's called the general public.

Speaker 6 (01:09:06):
Was that so SKA was that like no, general public
was just like new.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was like that was like was
that like the the next evolution of like kind of
like like seventies.

Speaker 6 (01:09:19):
Like SKA, Like, well, what happened was in England. England
was like historically England has been very much like this
is a subculture, it's very popular, and now this is
no longer anything right like.

Speaker 7 (01:09:31):
This is in, this is out, this is in, this
is our.

Speaker 5 (01:09:33):
Scott kind of joy division. They turned into like what's
called the So.

Speaker 6 (01:09:38):
Scott was like huge in England from like nineteen seventy
nine to eighty one, but then then it was just
like go on. It was just like not popular at
all anymore. But then it kind of trickled through the
rest of the world, like it trickled into Latin America,
it trickled into the us into Japan. I mean that's
where Los Fabulosos they heard, they heard two tone records

(01:09:58):
and they wanted to be a two tone and they
were trying to they were trying to copy two tone.
But then you know, there their own influences came into it,
all their own Latin music influences eventually, and that's why
it sounded different. Fishbone, Untouchables, these were bands that heard
two tone, but they made it kind of their own things.

Speaker 7 (01:10:17):
And then they just evolved. And you know in Japan
you had Tokyo Scott Paradise Orchestra.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Yeah, I forget about it.

Speaker 9 (01:10:24):
Those dude cool Tokyo Scott Paradise Orchestra Orchestra, they're still around.

Speaker 7 (01:10:32):
They played their bad bro.

Speaker 6 (01:10:34):
They like some years back when the Olympics was in Japan,
they played the closing ceremony.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Tokyo what Tokyo Scott Paradise Orchestra, take that out, bro,
Tokyo Paradise Orchestra. I seen them at the Glass not
the Glasshouse, right here in Orange County, the Observatory.

Speaker 6 (01:10:49):
They they might be the best. Yeah, they might be
the best scot band of all times.

Speaker 9 (01:10:55):
Because they they kind of like that's one of the
bands that they like they switched out, you know, a
members died, you know. But no matter what they do,
they always sound pristine and it's perfect, dude.

Speaker 6 (01:11:05):
It sounds like almost inhuman.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Yeah, good they are.

Speaker 9 (01:11:09):
It's fucking dude, it's phenomenal. Watch bro, it's perfect, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:11:16):
Man, it just that the whole like, you know, the
whole Japanese like it's their culture. It's like if they
fuck up a line, it's not gonna happen. Like, yeah,
that's what I was getting. It's one of those it's
just like there's no room for the fool, there's no
room for mistake, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Of wood. They's on his saxophone, bro in front of
him and goes and there were there were the bands
in Japan too, like they saw their little studio dude.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
I mean yeah, they're huge, bro, huge dude.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
My introduction to SKA was Clueless movie. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
that was like my first introduction, like a little kid, dude.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
But those a lot of Golden Eye and all those bands.

Speaker 9 (01:11:59):
Yeah, but even that, all the eighties movies have the
elements there to the beach, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
So back to the Beach, bro.

Speaker 7 (01:12:10):
They played Jamaica ska Jamaica ska.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
Would you see ducky from a pretty pink dress?

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
Mod?

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Maybe?

Speaker 5 (01:12:19):
Yeah, I was like pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Like many Actually what's his name? Look up Robert Donning Jr.
And that movie Back to School. He is dressed Mod.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
I think he's a big fan too, though.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
I look it up Robert Donnald Jr. Right click on
him right there, right there. The other one, the other
one were you can see more right to that one
out there, that one. Click on that one. Yeah, there
he is right there. See that's more like mod a vampire.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:12:54):
Isn't that called new romantic?

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Or is that Hollywood Back in the day, Hollywood didn't
know how to how to how to put a punk
rocker on the movie.

Speaker 9 (01:13:03):
That's what they were going. They were going for that look.
But that's how they put it together. Right there, that's
the look that they were going exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
We can't get a fucking mohawk and a fucking ring.
Oh you know what I saw? I don't know for
the SKA band, but they were playing in the movie
Valley Girl.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Yeah, that's another one. Us.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
There's a band that played when when He's all when
when you get it heartbroken Bro, the sparks that it
is all set Bro. He has with a punk rock
chicken and bathroom and then he didn't and and he
just didn't feel good about it because he still makes it. Lady.

Speaker 5 (01:13:38):
The songs called my pants because into punk rock.

Speaker 9 (01:13:41):
Look it up, Noah, the but what the Pi.

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
The Pistoms Souls, the Pixies, the Pistom Souls, the Plimsols.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Yeah, the pixels b I x A Plimsols.

Speaker 7 (01:13:58):
They were like I think they were like in l
A Mon.

Speaker 6 (01:14:00):
Yeah, they used to play with Untouchables a bunch.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Because and they play, they get to They played right
there in the movie a little bit when he's a heartbroken.

Speaker 9 (01:14:11):
Yeah, the Plym Souls and that's all, you know, genesis
of skuy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
And what I was when I when I saw that
Guy rich Guy Richard movie Locktocks and through smoking Barrels
and then that black that big fat dude is walking
around and they play that song. All the clubs are
being blow this one. It's flowing like a ghost Town

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when they wrote that song ghost Town. And because I
always listen to the lyrics of that song. Was there
really a time where punk was just too crazy in
New England and England that they were just closing the
clubs down.

Speaker 6 (01:14:54):
So that wasn't that had to do with the concession,
with the economy. That was a comment on how the
economy is bad and people were unemployed and couldn't get
work and just what that what everyone the sort of
the hopelessness that the people were feeling at the time
and that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
You have you ever seen that movie about joy Division
all Night Party people. In the beginning of that movie,
they tell you how all the steel mill company just
shut him down in England and they're like, all the
all the what happened. What happened was all the other
all the other grandparents, all their dads, all their uncle,

(01:15:29):
all the great grandfathers worked through the steel mills, but
our generation didn't because they shut down for generation EXO
and never got to work those places because they all
got shut down. They moved to Argentina or something.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
The beginning of the end.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Yeah, so there were there was like a it was
like it was there was nothing available as for our
music coming into Skock came in, right.

Speaker 6 (01:15:53):
Yeah, So I mean that that whole like situation, the recession,
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
That was bad their new in England, right, but that
was all.

Speaker 6 (01:16:00):
So feeling the racism of the time.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
Somebody brot the bottom of the barrel always that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
So yeah, they had to them what they have that
song about if you have a racist friend?

Speaker 7 (01:16:17):
Yeah, that's a special song.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
Yeah, the whole thing would just like, hear the.

Speaker 6 (01:16:23):
Song if you have a racist friend here, now is
the time for that friendship to it is the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Time for that friendship to end. Also the the this
time Bro's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Also they have a song Bro, a sexual assault song
Bro before Sublime, the Boiler, the Boiler, Bro. You hear
that song, Oh my god, I'm just Annoyd. Okay, I'm
just an old boiler, because that's what it was saulted.

Speaker 9 (01:17:00):
Talking about a bunch of like if you listen to
the lyrics, a lot of gangster ship that was going
on at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
It was fucking crazy. Brother, I'm listening to it after
a while, memory, I sow it up. I'm dating to
a rave song.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
That took place.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
And then the other one, the one about, oh my.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
God, what you're singing about?

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
The one up, the song the one that they wouldn't
they wouldn't played in the royal stations too much, too young,
and it was about a song about a girl getting
pregnant and birth control and birth control.

Speaker 7 (01:17:32):
I guess it was a big deal to talk about
birth control.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
Yeah, got that fucking little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
I mean, come on, that song was too much too
young and then he goes other.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Song go done too much.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Too young and you're married with a kid when he
should be having fun with me. Oh oh, I love
that song.

Speaker 6 (01:17:55):
The controversial part is at the end he goes try
wearing a cap.

Speaker 7 (01:18:00):
That was the part that was like really controversial.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Academy of the condom, so the don't want you to
wear condoms.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
You just can't say that radio on the radio, you know,
it's taboo.

Speaker 9 (01:18:10):
It's like it's it was like you know in the
early eighties and the dude like, you know, it was.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Like whole talking shit on the censorship.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
You know what I said, yellows, I said, a whole
fucking losing a baby story today on Hidian flies was
it was crazy bro like, and I was like, I
thought they were going to press that butty sooner or
later Brose. I was about to say, pre come. I
was pre wet. Pre wet came out. Bro Wet. What

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(01:19:09):
Carson Daily on MTV was an MTV not playing like
the big Sko band at the town, only playing what
they wanted to play.

Speaker 7 (01:19:21):
They played like real big fish, sublime, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:19:25):
They just played like a certain kind of skot which
was like the pop punk stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Yeah, yeah, nothing was.

Speaker 6 (01:19:30):
They didn't play like Hepcat or you know a lot
of like yeah, they didn't play like traditional sounding stuff
or kind of weird stuff. They would play the very
the stuff that was.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
There were specials there, man, there were specials, just madness
over and over, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
The biggest band.

Speaker 9 (01:19:48):
Specials were still too punk for them, you know what
I mean? It was like Madness was way you know,
more like you know for the populace, more new wave
through the.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
Yeah right, this is rude.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
The how much of the root boy is it? You
know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:20:04):
Yeah, punks on the streets also shout can I shout
out that Stepman Floores and his band Matamosca.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Shout out to Mada Mosca. Yeah a little bit Madams.
Also shout out to anybody that's in a sky band.
Like remember that in Native Guy we met the comedian.
He told me that he was in a sky band
back in the day before. Yeah, shout out to round
he was in a sky band back in the day.

(01:20:36):
You know, we could play their ship without getting without
getting tagged with getting Okay, play are easy. Scott res
SCA and it is as a Native American band that
plays Scot, but they're not around him more like the
lead singer those stand up now.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
Yeah, dud is eleven from l A.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
Yeah, they had that badass song the Rock of Gibraltar.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
That's we were That's what we were thinking about. The
O's twelve casino. Let's see there he goes.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
You know, Daisy Phillips dude.

Speaker 9 (01:21:19):
Yeah, okay, hell yeah, there's another one of the you know,
pioneering called movement.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
Okay, thank you man. How many views of that.

Speaker 6 (01:21:30):
Video from years ago?

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
And then they're native right, move on. I don't know everybond. Yeah,
they're together from Arizona. What's up? Well, man, there's so many.

Speaker 6 (01:21:48):
My my friend, my co host Adam Davis for in Defansisca.
He was in a band called link Ad and they
played yeah link k They played this spot in in
Tuba City, the res and this the venue was called
the crack Shack, but it was just like an abandoned
house that had like a single light bulb that worked

(01:22:09):
and punk bands, the sky bands would come and play there.
This is like in the early two thousands and just
every kid from the Reds would come out and just
packed that place out. Go crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
Link eighty Doug, Oh yeah, was it?

Speaker 9 (01:22:24):
The The singer's mom was Daniel Steele, Right, yeah, I
mean this is a crazy story with him too, but
god damn bro Link eighty.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Bro Wow, Oh yeah, man, that kid the Days Dog
and what about Rancid is scholar punk.

Speaker 6 (01:22:39):
They're mostly punk, but they had to have songs. I mean,
time Bomb was a huge hit and that was a
straight up skaw song.

Speaker 9 (01:22:46):
But any score songs they do is ransom. It just
fucking yeah, phenomenal, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
They're the I mean their Operation Ivy basically, I mean shit, yeah,
godfathers of all that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Well you have the big thank man, was you have
the big fan of the Aquabats.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
Nah, dude. I always thought, I mean, not to be
a dick, kind of cheesy, but they do have that element.
And you know they had did they have a was
it an animated show? No?

Speaker 6 (01:23:10):
No, no, no, no, Gabba Gabba Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:23:13):
No, they actually had their own shit.

Speaker 9 (01:23:17):
Because they were so they were trying to build them
up to be like the next you know, big thing
in that in that avenue. But I love them, yeah,
because they come, they come. I mean they're dressed, dude.
Travis Barker was the drummer of that Man at one point.

Speaker 7 (01:23:28):
He was there, I think their original drumm.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
Yeah. So yeah, it's just so funny.

Speaker 9 (01:23:32):
But they're cool, you know, but I mean it's kind
of like I don't want to say cheesy ska, but
it's really like.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
What is that like?

Speaker 9 (01:23:40):
Not even poppy, but yeah, goofy wacky there.

Speaker 6 (01:23:44):
You The thing is like with them, I wasn't really
into them. Yeah yeah when I saw them in like
the nineties, that wasn't that into them. I saw them,
and I think the thing I appreciated about them was
that they were like one hundred percent and they didn't
break character. No, yeah, they were just yeah, so the
and I kind of appreciated that they were so all

(01:24:05):
in on the bit like we're superheroes.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
They just went this last time. I know the dude
Ricky the plays drum with them.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
I recommend the show I watched my nephew. It's fucking
it's it's goofy. It's funny, The Alcobat Super Show. Yeah,
it's funny. It's almost like Power Rangers. So it's almost
kind of like a yeah, it's a good show.

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
It came out.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
I think like.

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
That show came out like in the two thousand tens
and they ended in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
And then yeah, my friend, there's no a punk band.
Now there's a cock band. Man. But these guys always
get too fucked up. Man. They get arrested after the show.
The SCA music so their music equipment after the show,
they get so fucked up done. That'll be a badd

(01:24:56):
name from a fucking comband. Bro. Yeah, but if you
have a conte, oh my god, man, that guy starts
chewing manth on stage.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
They opened up for sk I forgot about the Aquabats,
so this book mentioned.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
Them during his book too. Bronti the Aquabats, Bro, So
you went to all the Warped tours.

Speaker 7 (01:25:20):
I actually I actually actually never went to a warp tour.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Well, jewel you in huh wait.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
I've been a handful of them, but the most was
ninety eight.

Speaker 9 (01:25:29):
Uh. We'veted a two week run from Somerset, Wisconsin to
Randalls Island, New York.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
Dude.

Speaker 7 (01:25:35):
I interviewed.

Speaker 6 (01:25:35):
I interviewed Kevin Layman, the founder for the book. He's
really into ska and he always puts ska on the
Warped Tour.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Yeah, there was always a ska band there, no matter what.

Speaker 6 (01:25:44):
You know, you know, Kevin fun fact about Kevin for
a little while, he rodied for the Untouchables.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Really Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:25:52):
Is he from La or Orange County? I don't know exactly, Okay,
but it's definitely south southern California.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:25:58):
I know he was living in Alti, Dina when the
fire happened, because he was live streaming from there.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
Can you show that clip man put out the Untouchables
repo man scene. I don't know if we could watch.
They're not playing music in it. Yeah, we could probably
watch it. It'll be bad. I wish I had had
a vesta, a little vestpa.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
You trick those things out and go fast as fu.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
Oh yeah, you just hack into that ship.

Speaker 4 (01:26:27):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Are some of those guys still around her? They are
still around or what?

Speaker 6 (01:26:33):
So the singer there you go, one of the guys,
Jerry Miller.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
That's not the Untouchable, but that's a bad and that's
at the best. He's saying, Hey, old lady, I'm gonna
take your car. You gotta pay for this move. I'm
gonna take it even with a bad movie. Man, it
has sci fi and repose hoppers in it. Yeah, she's
she cried in every episode of any episode of Funeral.

(01:26:59):
She was for his onek right and then I'm gonna
and the mess was drinking the juice.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
Yeah, a little dude with that big ass.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:27:13):
We we lost Cherry Miller from the Touchables like a
year or two years ago. Rest in peace Cherry and
Chuck in that band. He's I'm friends with Chuck. He's
a great guy. He works in in Hollywood, like doing
like props and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
Nice.

Speaker 7 (01:27:30):
But they play, they play every.

Speaker 6 (01:27:32):
Once in a while, like a version of the band,
A version of the band, like a version you know,
not all original members, just you know some of them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
And that was like considered like mod in the eighties,
right that.

Speaker 6 (01:27:44):
Style they were playing ska, but they were dressed mod because.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
When when I think of mod, I think of like
like super grass, like you know, like that wasn't that
called mod rock or something like that.

Speaker 6 (01:27:57):
I mean I definitely think like like like the Big
like the Big Mod Revival band from England in the
seventies was the jam. Yeah, like that's what all the
mods were into, the jam, right, But in the sixties
they were into like the Who and the Small Faces
and like R and B and stuff, and it was
all like supposedly they were all on meth too or

(01:28:19):
methamphetamines and they were all like God.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
Stormtroopers.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
Huh, what's up? Fool buckjeat? What are they saying? Man
ship wrong? Once opened up the chap bro, open up
the chat bro, what are they saying?

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
You be forty considered ska.

Speaker 7 (01:28:43):
They're reggae band.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
It's y because there's no rock, there's no rock elements.

Speaker 6 (01:28:50):
It's just reggae.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
But it's good reggae, Okay, I mean it's you know
for music lovers.

Speaker 7 (01:28:55):
Right, there's some good stuff love.

Speaker 6 (01:29:01):
It's not Jamaican reggae, but it's they have some good stuff, would.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
You be forty?

Speaker 6 (01:29:05):
Red red Wine diff from England, but they came. They
started at the same time as the two sky Banzer
kind of around.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
They would have get a Girl Naked Dog red red Wine.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
And they still performed to this day.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they made one.

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
Of the best I mean, I mean, it wasn't like
other songs named after No, the movie Boy was named
after the songs. But fucking Perry recipes Matthew Perry and
fucking on some Hyak.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
Fool fall in love Fools Russian.

Speaker 5 (01:29:37):
That's one of the songs.

Speaker 9 (01:29:38):
Yeah, yeah, Hya, shoot the moon.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
That stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
What's a food partcas Man, don't forget man, go get
the book in defensive sky Mass, stop messing around, Man,
back us up, people anchor now.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
Never in my life?

Speaker 4 (01:30:03):
Bro, you now, what what about right?

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
Said Fred? What about right? Said Fred?

Speaker 5 (01:30:18):
What about him?

Speaker 6 (01:30:20):
There's some that's more like it's like dance music.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
That's the guy. There's a sky country genre.

Speaker 6 (01:30:28):
You know, you know a country band that plays some skies,
The Mavericks.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
The Mavericks, they have.

Speaker 7 (01:30:33):
Some sc stuff. That's an interesting crossover.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
Okay, No, that was God. This guy said, yeah, Free
the Homie par Rodriguez.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
I saw that right now.

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
I think a senior. I don't think what the reason
it was in the kid?

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
Whoa what? What in the kid?

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Comedian Pardriguez has been arrested again.

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
I can't get out of this strong, very long.

Speaker 5 (01:31:05):
Six hours ago.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
Yeah, arrested outside a restaurant.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
Look at look it up, look it up.

Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
I came on here to beat if George mp Is.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
Police say, okay, I can't.

Speaker 5 (01:31:17):
Oh my god, this is the mission of drug.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
Possession down six hours ago. Bro, Way, he's trust pretty mod.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
I'm touchable.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
You know. I used to be the single The untouchable is.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
Originally Comedian Parla Drew was arrested outside of the restaurant
burd Brand. Police says six hours ago.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
That's got places Washington, d C. You know, a big
boy restaurant.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Tom Hardy said, that's the funnyest thing I've ever done.
I said again, getting arrested is the only funny thing
I have ever done. All these all these what's that
guy to beat? Paul juwish te again, I.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
Must I need a T shirt. That's what I need.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
Bro. You got the biggest hater bro right here, Bro
look him up right now? Bro saw me here. The
biggest parlog hater's.

Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
At home at your mom's house.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
What's the opinion either business consultant? Of course, Bro's trying
to get people to go to his page they can
consult Bro. Fortunate brother. You say something negative and they
go to your page and then you go, oh yeah,
I'm not gonna keep consulting from this guy who's hating
on Paul. And then there's another guy, Bro, a paul
bringing the beer to Jesus, Bro, this tall boy.

Speaker 7 (01:32:36):
What's what's the opinion in the room of a million
to one?

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Hilario? Bro? Somebody said that Paulo will off be Dudo
asking for the j Rod special. Hey, we're gonna get
that guy in the podcast right here, Bro, jail Bro,
You're gonna do some electricity right here, that guy j Rod.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
Oh that fool. What are we gonna get back on here? Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
Did you find the news bro on the news clip
about Oh my god, Bro, you guess they out.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
Of trouble because I'm an skape herod skate park.

Speaker 3 (01:33:08):
Pretty soon I came back to Swei. They threw They
threw me in the slammer again.

Speaker 9 (01:33:12):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
Happen. You gotta rested again.

Speaker 4 (01:33:17):
You know it says drug possession, right, Hey man, I
used to think this place was a ghost town.

Speaker 5 (01:33:21):
You know, Burbank sucks.

Speaker 6 (01:33:23):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:33:24):
You can't Okay, So why.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
Would you let him go?

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
What for what?

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
He's seventy years old?

Speaker 5 (01:33:30):
Let him fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
Park called for a welfare check at the Island's restaurant.
I haven't even like Hamburger.

Speaker 5 (01:33:35):
You know Island's burgers.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:33:37):
There's going on Islands.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
By the mall for that's the one by the parking lot.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
Yeah right, Kia, Oh my god? Bro? Fuck do we
carry an those big old bags?

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
Okay? Jorde Lopez set them up, Bro, and the Triple.

Speaker 4 (01:33:55):
Price were good as fun, though Islands you can't fue
Jorde Lopes be can older the prodrigaz these days. Bro's
because he's because he's got a back different jeans.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
I'm now a wizardy Bro. Give my Zappa the fingers
if we go Okay, we're gonna break out part Drigus
tonight Broke.

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
Showing that page a game, Bro, the people saying how.

Speaker 5 (01:34:19):
Many money guys we're gonna start up? Go for mere gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
Find me for he was in the Islands, Bro, Jamaican
Islands and the.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
Light about my age. I'm in my sixties.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
Seventy. Man, what are those comments saying, Bro, let's go
troll these people talking about I'm sick of it. Let
me see, yes, Bro, not the one Bro that little
are fans more on the other page.

Speaker 4 (01:34:46):
Let me see on the fucking I can't see them
on that because glasses.

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
He And there's people who say I never thought Paul
was funny, and you go see how how old they are. Bro.
You didn't grow up with Paul. You don't know him
the way we know him. You don't know him as
born nist La. You don't know him as a k bablo.
You just know him as the grown man with the dresscoat.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
Twenty minutes set at the Lave factory.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
Yeah. Other people like the people like who are like
are like always mad mad at Latino. There's always Latinos,
were always mad at other Latinos who made it? Bro?
Who don't live in Texas?

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
Oh mad sat in a porche?

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
Yeah? Man? What's up? Full podcast? Martin Rise moving to Texas,
moving to Austin?

Speaker 5 (01:35:33):
Oh No, a.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
Lot more sponsive there now lives?

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
Are you moving with Hooter? Bro? And Martin.

Speaker 4 (01:35:39):
No, I'm not good to fucking I'm late till I die, bro,
until I get kicked, until the island breaks up.

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
Right, you know whatever? You want to know what? Bro?

Speaker 5 (01:35:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
What the go there?

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
Bro? Dude, shut up to the new King of the Hill.

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
Oh dude, have you seen it?

Speaker 1 (01:35:57):
Yeah, it's a work.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
I love it, dude. I watched three episodes.

Speaker 5 (01:36:01):
It's fucking it's funny. It's great, Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
I've been giving her the corn for years back from
Saturday Arabia, Peggy Hello.

Speaker 5 (01:36:08):
Hen Hell yeah, man, such a good show, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
We're gonna have a shoutout to our trick man Rick
from the Warsaw podcast of course, from either on the
King of the Hill.

Speaker 4 (01:36:21):
And he was also on the other Mike Judge movie
What's it called? Such a great movie with idiocracy. And
then he's also in the new season of Key of
the Hill.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
And he's also in Silicon Valley.

Speaker 5 (01:36:32):
Dude, he's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:36:33):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
Hell yeah, Bro, hell yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:36:36):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
They're gonna be doing a lot of comedy shows now.

Speaker 5 (01:36:38):
But that show doesn't. Maybe you want to go to
Texas City water though.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
Also, man, you know what, man in and out, get
out of here. We don't want you. I've never really
I'm being in and out only was even inter and
out with you. I mean in and out with Gabro,
in and out with Mando. But I never in and
out without you. I've never stood in line for a
burger there in my life, you know what, Bro, every

(01:37:05):
time I started line, I swear to God, Bro, you
know what, I can't take this. I'm gonna go to
rallies and no one there. That's why I go to rallies.
You know where I go, Bro, I go places where
where no one's there. Man, like winter Schnitzel. Nobody has
ever said, nobody has ever said, Bro, the line that
winter Schnitzel was too long.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
It was just too long.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:37:29):
I had to go to fucking in and out. Nobody
has ever said, you know what, Bro, Jeez, the taco
is too long. Bro, the line was too long. You
know what. Let's start a petition to bring water Burger
to California. I don't need meat, but we need some
good ass burgers. Man, in and out. Man, You're done,

(01:37:53):
get out of here. I never liked you. I never
liked your scriptures on your cups anyways, John three sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
But fucking Steve Austin three sixteen.

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
Bro, let's get it. Okay, you should have use then
in and Out Burger right now, but I rather go
to the habit.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
But you know what, fucking uh Bakers and the I
E is pretty.

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
Good, dude, every now and then have a little dry
ass drass bunso does it really? But it is good though.
I like big Bakers.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
Because we should look to the in and Out by
Magie Mountains all the time. That's the only one in
the field. Every time I in and out, I was
with you.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
Right there on the right there off off the five.

Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
That's the only one. I've been in there a lot,
only with you.

Speaker 7 (01:38:35):
In and Out.

Speaker 6 (01:38:36):
Came to gil Roy when I was like either in
high school or no, just after high school.

Speaker 7 (01:38:40):
It was like a big deal.

Speaker 6 (01:38:41):
Everyone in Gilroy was like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
Yeah, yeah it was yet garlic in the Yeah, I said,
the onion is garlic.

Speaker 6 (01:38:52):
We have that.

Speaker 7 (01:38:52):
There's a garlic ice cream you can get in town.

Speaker 4 (01:38:56):
Yeah, try to pickle ice cream and fucking pits. Remember
the pickle Festival?

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
Yeah? It was the good a man for for real though,
Like you ever go to a Rallies Burger while they's
two around.

Speaker 3 (01:39:09):
The laundering money.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
There so many laundry money out there. There's a lot
of content meth money going to that place.

Speaker 5 (01:39:17):
It's Armenia.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
Nobody has ever None of my friends I live in California,
in my whole life, had come out to me. Goes bro.
Shut up, Bro. These fries at rallies are the best.
You know what.

Speaker 5 (01:39:30):
I always have good deals, that's the thing about it.
And there's nobody there.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
The only time you go to rallies is where you
fucking made a torta. You made, you made, you made
a chick at a concert, Bro. Or you're leaving a
SKO concert at Griffith's Ark and then you man got
a dunk his chick. She already gave me a hand job.
Let's go to rallies.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
Paul Rodrigue should have went to rallies, Bro. He would
have got busted.

Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
Bro. He was he went to real lease.

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
Fucking Island's Burger Bro Island Burgers.

Speaker 5 (01:40:04):
I get busted there.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
Bro. You just picture Paul Bro being like Donjo Bolts
are there, Bro, dancey bro with with his cheek bro
like pop picture.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
Bro probably made fun of somebody. Dog. I know something happened.

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
There's no way, dog, Bro, I've never seen paul a Burger.
That's that's not sound like fake news.

Speaker 3 (01:40:23):
He's more of a steak guy, right totally state.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
Ruby, Chris. I don't want to give a shout out. Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:40:30):
Theyn't a paintiss this Communim said a funny joke about
he's like a nerdy guy long time he saw.

Speaker 5 (01:40:36):
I applied for a job at Uh, what's going on.

Speaker 4 (01:40:39):
The place we were tiling? Ruby, Chris, No, the.

Speaker 5 (01:40:43):
Rallies.

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
I couldn't find the entrance, so I just went to
the drive through because there's no but there's no insight.

Speaker 5 (01:40:48):
You, So I'm here for the job.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
Don't you pull up and you park kind of like
no insight?

Speaker 5 (01:40:54):
Yeah you have to.

Speaker 7 (01:40:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
The girl comes out with the roller skates.

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
When you California, Raley's is called Checkers check Checkers.

Speaker 3 (01:41:04):
In Florida, that's what it's called.

Speaker 5 (01:41:06):
Cross Junior is called Hearty's.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
Bro, let's bring a stinky shake over here, man.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
Finally, Bro, there is one in uh victor Bill, not California.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
In California, Brood the map not in California.

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
Yeah, Victorville, so tumbleweed city. Huh where you're a bro.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
I'm on Baskett. Bro, I ain't going over that street
right there by, you know Barsel the ghetto street right
basket Oh show that's never mind, Bro, that's where fucking
Alochi was from. Brollo Chiao, Bro, that's that's net though,
whatever the name is. He goes everywhere the big that's

(01:41:50):
bat Pee shout up to show the video of that
Bigolo and his little dog bat Pe over there. Bro.
He's got a fucking store with that dog all fucked up,
and he goes, hey, Bro, you can't bring that dog
in here. He's a Sodoma's bat Bank can go anywhere.
Look looking up. You show the one where he's at

(01:42:22):
a mall. He's got a mall and he sir, you
can't bring that dog in here. And he goes, wait
a minute, is Peppe here?

Speaker 9 (01:42:29):
It is a talk but bro, homie right here, Bro,
that's doing his dog bro tucking in the shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
You know what, Bro, Every neighborhood has a birdman U.
Every neighborhood has an old knowledge of bowl Sholo like that. Bro.
Like a guy like that. That guy is like our
version of Rambo. Bro. Like what that gang wars? Bro,
he sent people to He was a pel w in prison.

(01:43:01):
He was fucking he lived alive and he's a survivor.
Bro looking out, Bro, he like mellowing out. But chi
wow wow.

Speaker 3 (01:43:09):
Bro, live to tell about it? Yeah, that homie.

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
Sometimes, Bro, Like other people try to bring the dog
to meet that dog. Bro, Like, how stupid are you?
Man with the dog is a stupid cartoon pinchy man,
So you're gonna bring your fucking chow. Hey, man, this
is my dog Lucy. Then that little dog like, it's

(01:43:34):
you stupid ass? So why bring your dog around? Show
up video of Pepper meets other dog?

Speaker 3 (01:43:44):
Little Pepper be getting around.

Speaker 5 (01:43:47):
Again?

Speaker 3 (01:43:48):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:43:49):
We made that the guy the guy that we gave
a shout out to last week from the electric shop,
j Rod looking bro looking They get into a fire
out there, Bro, why bringing sticky little dog? Right squad? Yeah,
they're they're both at a play where you can't bring dogs.

Speaker 4 (01:44:05):
By the way, I was like, there were like dogs,
but they're just small, dude, So like Pepper throwing hands
pause bro, pause of fury.

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
Homie. Hey, if you have a friend named Pepe, there
are always troublemakers, Bro. Yeah, Peppe, there's always like a
big guy that with fights. And then it's like somebody
you always know, like a broke up pep bean shoplifter,
and he's the one that shows up. Bro Like you
could call him from anywhere. He's probably like fifty seven
years old. You could chill call him and show up.

(01:44:36):
He showed up. That what's up? And we have Pepper here.
He's from that neighborhood, basket Okay, the he's from b
b the Big the Big bas bout your locals. Yeah,
what's up? Fool podcast? You know, brout the history of
Basket Dog. But this is your first book. Yeah, but

(01:45:00):
they're gonna write another book. I don't take to write
the book.

Speaker 6 (01:45:03):
Researching I wrote the first edition took me like seven years,
and then I took another years and revised it for that.

Speaker 7 (01:45:11):
So I mean probably like ten years for that.

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
Right there, and a lot of work. That's awesome though.

Speaker 6 (01:45:16):
Yeah, I'm working on a novel now called A Little
Black Book of Death.

Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
And starting Jerry.

Speaker 7 (01:45:26):
I maybe I would what I would love to do.

Speaker 6 (01:45:29):
I don't know if I can or I will, but
I would love to write a book about Fishbone because
they're my favorite band of all times. So so maybe
maybe that might be the next one after that.

Speaker 7 (01:45:39):
We'll see.

Speaker 5 (01:45:41):
Hell yeah, you're looking for bro I'll look at the
comments on YouTube people. We're trying to free up Pardrigaz.
Hopefully he gets out by tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:45:51):
He's out already.

Speaker 5 (01:45:52):
He's been asked.

Speaker 3 (01:45:53):
They just processed him when the postability took off.

Speaker 5 (01:45:55):
Damn dude, and he's back with fucking Melvin.

Speaker 7 (01:45:59):
Do you guys Do you guys know the band Manic Hispanic?

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:46:04):
Yeah, have you heard, like a year or two ago
they did a matches to Rudy Yeah, put a message to.

Speaker 3 (01:46:12):
Yeah, yeah dude, Yeah, all the little hits and do
the Mexican version of It's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
Yeah. Oh yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:46:20):
Elvis Cortes from Left Alone is in that new rendition
of that band right now.

Speaker 7 (01:46:24):
Yeah, so as well.

Speaker 9 (01:46:27):
Yeah him and I think the other singer just had
surgery or something, right really yeah, but yeah, they're doing
their thing right now.

Speaker 3 (01:46:33):
They're killing it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:46:36):
I remember, like years ago, when I was even lived,
I picked up this one older guy. He told me
that he wanted yeah too, but he watched he used
to watch, uh no doubt playing backyard gigs in Orange
County back in the day.

Speaker 7 (01:46:48):
Like yeah, like eighties like that.

Speaker 5 (01:46:50):
He told me, like like.

Speaker 3 (01:46:52):
They were doing the other singer that committed he committed
to Yeah, even the brother was in the band playing boards. Right,
and then he was like an animator for the Simpsons
or something.

Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:47:03):
Yeah, he quit right before they took off, right.

Speaker 6 (01:47:06):
Yeah, I mean he wrote some of Tragic Kingdom, but yeah,
and then he became like a pretty significant figure at
Simpsons in their animations and a.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
Crime Whats So Fool podcast? Thank you Aaron cars. Go
check out in Defense of Ska and go check out
his podcast in Defense of Ska and you could listen
to it on Spotify. Also, I just found out his
podcast is on Audible and you could listen to it too.

Speaker 6 (01:47:32):
Did I recorded it myself. It took me six days
in a studio in Burbank.

Speaker 1 (01:47:37):
Yeah. Yeah, so you were there next to party with Paul.

Speaker 3 (01:47:43):
I need a defense attorneys what I need?

Speaker 1 (01:47:45):
Thank your butty for listening. Man. Shout out to all
our viewers on the chat room. Man, don't forget to comment, Man,
don't let us down. He loved was falsa, boop

Speaker 5 (01:48:08):
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