December 11, 2023 • 35 mins
Daniel Jeremiah and Rhett Lewis look back at the weekend and recap the action from Week 14 of the NFL season on a new episode of Move the Sticks. Throughout the show, the guys do a deep dive on their top Week 14 games. Specifically, the duo hit on the Broncos at Chargers (2:06), Jaguars at Browns (5:05), Rams at Ravens (8:15), Eagles at Cowboys (12:47), Bills at Chiefs (18:00), Buccaneers at Falcons (24:09), and Texans at Jets games (26:53). To wrap up the show, the duo also give quick takeaways from a few of the remaining games from Week 14 which they didn't highlight (31:42).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now move the Sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. DJ and
Rhett with you today. Buck is traveling so he is out.
But Rhet, how are you doing? Man?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, I'm good and I'm laughing a little bit because
I'm thinking I was, you know, buying the curtain a
little bit for our friends here, you know, when we're
trying to figure.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Out, you know, who's talking about what and which games.
I just knew.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I knew on that text thread that DJ was gonna
come in hot with that Jets Texans zame because you,
my friend. Every time I think I'm done, they pull
me back.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And you are. You can't get up, Wilson, I don't.
I don't know if you I don't know if you
saw this. First of all, I haven't watched the Jets
playing over a month. It's been so pitiful. But the
I was on the Insiders show, so I was on
with Tom Pea of the day. We were talking about
some backup quarterbacks and I said on that show, I
think I posted it, but I said, look, if I'm
(01:04):
the Jets, I would put a BYU helmet in Zach's
locker this week and tell him, look, we have we
have tried to tell you, don't make mistakes. We've tried
to put handcuffs on you. We've got a great defense.
Don't screw it up, Zach. Doesn't work. Okay, we can't
win games when we score six points. So go back
to Byu, Zack. You turn it over, bad things happen,
(01:26):
Let it roll off your shoulders, just let it rip.
Go out there and play. And I was like, watching
the game, I'll back and watch it, we'll go through it.
We'll get to it a little bit. Obviously it's not
a highlight game, but the uh, there's exactly what happened.
He went out there and played, and there's a couple
of them where you kind of cringe, like, oh gosh,
what is he doing? But then like that's kind of
who he is. Just let him be who he is.
Stop trying to make him something he's not.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, I mean, there was a definitely a couple of
throws on there that I saw from BYU, from the
from the XO tape that you ran up the draft
when the Jets took him to Overall, there's there's some
of that in there. So yeah, I'll be curious to
get your take on that when we get down there
to it.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But yeah, you du oh my gosh, wow, I have
I have no words with what the Chargers offense looks like.
I mean, it's a total con twist. The defense had
been so bad and now all of a sudden, the
defense for the last month or so, he was playing
really well, done a nice job offensively. They can't score
and no touchdowns last week against the Patriots, they got
(02:25):
a late score in this one, only put up seven
points against the Broncos, so they have kind of fallen apart.
Herbert breaks his finger. Looks like he's going to be
out Thursday. Who knows if he'll play again the rest
of the year. By all intensive purposes, they're in deep trouble.
I mean, they're have a very hard time coming back
from this. I think they're probably done in terms of
the playoffs. But I did want to swing it over
because what I'm calling the Charger games. For those who
(02:47):
don't know, I call the Charger games every week, so
we always touch on that game just because I'm there.
Buck always touched on the Jags game because he's calling
their games. So you're there. We're there, we might as
well tell people what we saw, and a lot of
times we can take kind of the slant from the
team that we're working for doing those games. I wanted
to spend my time here and give some flowers to
the Denver Broncos and particularly Advance Joseph. I went back
(03:09):
and looked at up. Let's look at these last games.
Here at the last seven games, Green Bay, they gave
up seventeen points KC nine, Buffalo twenty two, Minnesota twenty,
Cleveland twelve. Those are all wins. By the way, Houston
twenty two was the one loss, and they give up
seven in this game. So over the last seven games
they're averaging fifteen point five points allowed. The Niners lead
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the NFL on the season, allowing fifteen point eight points
per game. Now, obviously because the seventy point game against
Miami and how bad they were early in the year,
you know their numbers are going to be middle of
the pack and not very impressive on the season. But
over the last seven weeks they're playing as well as
anybody defensively, and they're aggressive, and you know, the Chargers
(03:49):
could not pick up a blitz to save their life.
They hit them with so many different blitzes and got
free runners. But they are playing aggressive, they're creative and advanced.
Joseph has those guys playing good. All that's awesome, you know.
I think they're a game out of first place, by
the way.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Uh yeah, because if the Chiefs keep stumbling and we'll
get to that game crazy hear it a little bit
as well, Like, yeah, there's there's definitely some room there
for the Broncos to make some moves. And it's a
team that we kind of left for dead right when
they were what one in five and then went on
the five game and then lost to Tech the Texans
and then bounce back. So yeah, there's there's a lot
to like there. I think Joontay Williams is playing some
(04:26):
good football too.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Right with the way that there can happen right now?
Is your wife happy with the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
She is a Broncos fan, yep. Spent her her whole
life in and around Denver and Colorado, and she's pretty
swamped on in the work world on her side of
there's a lot of things going on in the in
the world on the news front these days, and so
so she's she I think unfortunately has been less of
a football fan than she would like. But yeah, definitely
got a little kick out of that one yesterday.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So they're playing good ball. I don't think we need
to spend any more time on that one. But now again,
the Broncos very much in the playoff and in the
division mix. As crazy as that sounds, But how about
the next one? Here? Buck was gonna hit this one
but raah, but I know you jumped in and did. Yeah,
I jumped in on the Rounds and we had.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
This one on our shift of Game Day Live. Mark
Ross and I were kind of looking at this and
the Browns had built a lead, Jags kind of came back.
Brown's built it again. And look, I think, first off,
let's credit Trevor Lawrence, right. I mean, after watching that
injury on Monday that I was like, yeah, no way,
no way, he plays, no way, he might be out
for the year. You know, like you're going through all
(05:30):
those machinations in your mind watching you know, an impact
player like that go down and not return, and then
you know he comes out here tough, tough dude. Plus
his offensive line is extremely depleted at the tackle position.
I mean, like we know they're down Cam Robinson Walker
Little was out to start this game, so they moved
Ezra Cleveland over to left tackle.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
He gets hurt in the first.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Half, and so Blake Hants comes in as they're essentially
fourth string left tackle. Look, he didn't have a great day,
but I don't know if that's putting him in a
great position either with the you know, the way that
the Browns can get after the passer. He played thirty
nine snaps, gave up four hits and eight pressures. Team
as a whole gave up twenty seven pressures on Trevor Lawrence, which.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Is that's not the team. Yeah, not the team you
want to be playing when you're not whole up front.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
And when you're a little banged up, you know, in
the mobility department. From the quarterback spot. Now, he threw
three picks. First one, he'll advise deep shot. Second one,
he got pressure and it was a miscommunication with Zay Jones.
Third one free rusher. He takes the shot down the sideline,
just overthrows. It was played well by Greg Newsom. But
I think what's most important here in this game is
Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Joe Flacco fits in this offense, and he is he
has given them. I think I would say, and it
probably isn't that much of a stretch to say there
are two best games of quarterback play the season. Here
we're saying he comes off the couch right, he's decisive,
he knows where he wants to go with the football.
He is unflustered in the pocket. He was also protected
(06:58):
pretty well. Give him that two arm is still terrific.
Like he's thirty eight years old. The arm is still there.
Like he goes he has a left hash shot. He
lets it rip from the minus twelve left hash. It
hits the sideline at the thirty two on the far
right side, and it's on the money, on time, perfect throw,
first down, Like that's big time. That's a big time
(07:20):
throw right there. He even showed some evasiveness in the pocket.
Rusher gets his hands on him, he escapes, scrambling out
to the right, makes a pretty throw on the run.
He just seems really comfortable, calm in the pocket. He's
got great touch, still layer and balls over the second level.
There is a lot to like. And I think the
Browns are right back in the thick of things. If
they were floundering a little bit as a playoff contender,
(07:41):
but that's a playoff looking team right there with Flacco
at quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Teach. Yeah, and I think you probably take some heart
by watching that if you're a Jets fan and say, hey,
look at Flacco at that age. Maybe Aaron Rodgers coming
off this injury next year still got a little magic
left in him. Nice to see the older guys with
the experience, and they got the whole thing with older quarterbacks.
And this is another Jet point, by the way, not
to get off on a tangent, but you've been just
invest in the offensive line. If you're gonna have an
old quarterback, you've got to protect them. The weapons aren't
(08:06):
as important as a protection the older you get at
the quarterback precition. But anyways, great to see Joe Flacco
get loose again. As you said right off the couch.
How about Flacco's old team, the Ravens, in one of
the games, probably the best games of the entire weekend,
came dout to the end and overtime they beat the
Rams thirty seven to thirty one.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I kept going back in because again, this is another
game in the early window that we had on Game
Day Live which, by the way, every Sunday on NFL Network.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
By the way, I did see the ratings the other day.
Up every year, year over year. It just keeps climbing. Hey,
bang bang, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Six hundred thousand people checking this out each and every week.
It's awesome to see. So we're watching this game and
it's it's back and forth. I mean, like every time
I'm giving score alert its bang a Rams and Ravens
scored again. A couple of just a just an overarching
kind of theme in this The Rams are a playoff
caliber team. Yeah, the Rams are a playoff caliber team
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to go all the way to Baltimore or on the
road in the rain and give that team, who is
one of the two three best teams in the AFC
right now, an absolute run for their money, especially on offense.
I mean, like you look at the ran the ball
really well too. They then that's what they've been doing
this year. When Kyron Williams is healthy, man, that team
(09:18):
has been rolling on the ground. And then you throw
in obviously Cooper Cup and Puka Akua.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
They get Tyler Higbee.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Back, who was out in this game, although they did
get you know, a couple of good you know this
is good snaps from Davis. Allen, the young tight end
from Clemson, caught his first career touchdown in this game.
I think I would let him down here with some
major coverage busts on defense because they were in they
play and this is a really tight game, like even
across the board. Credits to the Rams offense. They scored
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on all five of their red zone possessions, albeit three
touchdowns and two field goals, But on defense they let
up some explosive plays that just you can't have it.
And I don't know if they were I was texting
you back and forth. I was trying to figure out
what some of these coverages were on some of the
the Odell Beckham slugo just got Jordan Fuller. He bit
up hard on it and Odell's wide open Lamar underthrows him,
(10:08):
but he still gets into the end zone. They had
an Isaiah Likely play early in the first half where
he comes in motion and no one accounts for he
comes in motion, ends up being the third the outside
receiver in a three by one set and there's just
nobody there, so clear miscommunication there. Jordan Fuller misses the angle.
He had a tough game in this one, and then
(10:29):
on the last one. The last big, you know, kind
of misque on defense is a third and seventeen with
the game on the line, and they go down there
and allow Jay Flowers to cross Fuller's face going from
right to left and he catches the touchdown that gives
the Ravens the lead. Ultimately, the Rams work down there
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and tie it up and go to overtime. But man,
just you take a couple of those plays away, and
I know it's hard to say that, but again when
they're miscommunications, and sometimes it seems like unforced errors, Yeah,
that's that's hard when you're that close to beating that
good of a team.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah. Look, give the Ravens credit. They've found ways to
win different types of games. Yes, they found themselves in
low scoring games, high scoring games. The offense with Lamar
Jackson really arn Legs doing everything in this game was
big for them. They needed all of it. They needed
all that offense. And this one, I will say defensively
for the Ravens, you know, they're they're a challenge with
what they do up front and the looks that they present.
(11:30):
I do think that the you know, the type of
teams are going to be able to do well against
them on that side of the ball, veteran quarterback, veteran coach,
because you have to have answers baked in for all
the different sim slashers you're gonna fire. And Stafford was
in the groove with his play caller and Sean McVay,
so they were seeing things the same. It's gonna be
a nightmare defense for young quarterbacks to deal with. But
(11:52):
I think that was a little bit of a blueprint
if you've got somebody who's been around the block a
few times, understands what looks he's been presented, and knows
where to attack the week's I thought that was kind
of the key to them there.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
And then obviously, you know Tyland Wallace the punt return Yeah, walkoff.
I mean that's huge, and he's not the regular punt
returner Devin du verne is. He goes out, Tyland Wallace
has to step in. I mean, it's kind of a
cool story. He was a senior bowler right from open
to Oklahoma State. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, doesn't get
a lot of reps on the offensive side of the ball,
but steps in a big spot and obviously gets that
(12:22):
done after the three and out, so on the Rams
first offensive possession in overtime.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
But the Rams are here to stay. Yeah, they're playing
good ball. We're gonna take quick break. We come back.
This is not a rerun. But we will get into
a game where the Eagles were pounded. We'll get into
that right after this. All right, right, this was billed
as the game of the day Sunday Night Football, Eagles Cowboys.
(12:50):
The Eagles have problems, and we'll get to those problems
in just a minute. They've been exposed really by the
other two I would say, clearly two teams that are
better than them right now. I don't know anyway other
way to say it, after watching what the Niners did
to them and then watching what the Cowboys did to
them in this one. But let's start with the Cowboys
on their side of things. Dak an efficient day two
under seventy seventy one yards, two touchdowns. They ran the
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ball well, kind of did what they wanted. When I
looked at explosives in this game, which was interesting to
watch from the Cowboys standpoint, they found some. They found
some Waldo's on the other side they wanted to go
after and it was a lot of the young guys
or newer players there. Roby got torched in this game.
Eli Rix, who's been out there. He struggled. Kee Ringo,
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a young guy to Georgia, he struggled. I mean it
was no, it was equal opportunity. But Zach was seeing
the field very well and just was was even though
they did hit him a little bit, heed him up
a little bit. They had matchups down the field that
they found very favorable, coming off of a game against
the Niners where they picked on this secondary a little bit.
(13:54):
I think it's a combination of maybe they're not as
talented in the back end in Philadelphia, but they're not
connected either. That's a kind of a buzz phrase you
hear when you talk to defensive coaches. Got to be
connected on the back end. They were not connected at all.
And there were some guys running free.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, and you know there are some young players. You
mentioned that Sidney Brown out there too, and I know
reblanken Ship left the game early and he's you know,
he's a guy that you know that's a big piece
of their secondary rotation there. And did you see anything
from Kevin Byerd in that one? You think, like you know, veteran.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Didn't have as much blood on his hands when I
went through and looked at all the big plays and
but but it was interesting. I was having to use
our lads to go through and like, who the heck
is this Eli Ricks? You know what I mean? Like
it was those those types of things, But there there
were other plays were like he's hitting you'll hit a
seam ball and there's another wide receiver on the on
the top of the on the top of the screen,
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who's just naked wide open. It's like, dude, they're running
free all over the lease. And this is the Eagles team.
I think they had the number one pass defense in
the NFL last year, so you know, look drop off.
They hit him a little bit. Redick had two sacks,
but they you know, he's getting the ball out again.
I talk about being connected, it means when you're getting
home and then you're not tight in coverage, like there's
(15:10):
no you don't have time, you don't have time to
get there. There's too many there's too many openings. So
they've got major issues. And I think when you look
around the NFC, there's quarterbacks to take advantage of it.
If you're not good in the back end, they can
take advantage of it. And Dallas from what they are defensively,
they were dominant in this game. They ran it, they
could throw it when they needed to. It's a pretty
(15:30):
complete football team, man, one of the best Cowboy teams
we've seen in a long time.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, and you know, I think there were times this
year when the Cowboys had one of those games, you know,
where they kind of had, you know, one of those
letdowns and you didn't see that ground game, right, you
didn't see and they had a nice combo with Tony
Pollard and Rico Dowdle in their rushing for over one
hundred yards. And again, I just think that takes some
of that burden off of Dak Prescott, even though he's played,
(15:56):
you know, exceptionally well since that forty nine Ers loss
a couple weeks ago. But now we're talking about back
to back blowouts or from the Eagles. I mean, they
did score an offensive touchdown for the first time in
six years. Yeah, so what do we make of where
they are offensively right now?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Now?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
You want to talk about not running the football, they
mean they haven't they haven't been able to do it
very effective.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
No, I mean, look that the uh, the Niners is
as good at defense as there is in the league.
Dallas Cowboys are either. So there's there's part of that.
But if you're gonna get to through the tournament, those
are the teams you got to get through. So uh,
you know, look, I would say, man, if they get
healthy and uh and their full speed ahead in the postseason,
I think they can play with those teams. But man,
(16:39):
they've got to uh, they've got to clean up some
stuff on the back end and then offensively. I don't
know if it's just getting jailing healthier or or what
it is there, but yeah, you know, the one thing
with the Cowboys, they did not get caught up the
field against him. That's kind of like you talk about
a little bit of the blueprint there. Don't give him lanes,
don't get caught up the field, let him climb up
and run and see they kind of just put a
wall in front of him and took that away, and
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he's you know, he's just not comfortable. He's not comfortable
right now. And it isn't because he's getting upfield pressure.
He's just not seen it. Well.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Cowboys have been really good at home They've now won
their fifteenth straight game at home, dating back to the
twenty twenty two seasons. So you think about the way
that they're surging right now, and you think about playoffs
and them trying to.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
The only problem is they have one team that's their kryptonite.
That's that's right, that's right, and that's the team they're
probably going to have to go on the road. I
would think I haven't looked at the at the time
they beat him head to head this year, to beat
the snot out of them, So I would think San
Francisco would hold the hold the tiebreaker there, see what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
But even just to get then NFC Championship game would
be a bit.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
It would be big. They're looking like they're heading that
way right now, so as it stands, yeah, I think
that would go through San Francisco. So let's get to
this next game, because this was you know, we talked
about the Cowboys Eagles being billed as the game of
the day, this one because of all the news surrounding
the Buffalo Bills and then the the Kansas City Chiefs
(17:57):
not looking right. This was an sreaking matchup, and then
it had a little drama at the end, which we'll
get to, but just overall impression of this game that
was won by the Buffalo Bills twenty seventeen, and I
would say it was a it was a must win
game for Buffalo and they got it. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Where they were you know, where they were sitting and
some of the games that they have lost that you'd
expect them to be, you know, much further along than
where they were. I mean, they're still sitting in the
in the eleven hole right now in the AFC, so
they still got work to do, which seems strange for
this team at this point. But you could not go
under five hundred right now, and especially as you were saying,
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because you're going to start to get things piling on,
right with all the off the field stuff that they
were dealing with with Sean McDermott this this last week.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So that was a big one.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
And I think the early the way that they kind
of got after it early on really kind of helped
set the table for what they wanted to do in
this game. Thought Josh Allen played well early. He had
one of those plays where he was trying to do
a little too much and you'll see that. Obviously, you
just kind of take some of those, right, But they
jump out to the fourteen to nothing lead, and that
basically booied them the whole way because obviously the Chiefs
(19:06):
came back, you know, and kind of made this thing
a little bit closer seventeen fourteen after the Rashi Rice
touchdown catch, but the Chiefs just, I don't know, it's
good to see where she Rice continuing to ascend. Yeah,
he is a good player and and maybe that'll remove
some of the other issues that they're having with drop
(19:28):
and they still had drops in this game.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, you know, and that's just tough to see.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
And obviously I think not having Isaiah Pacheco really kind
of hurt him a little bit too. Couldn't really run
the ball with any sort of consistency or effectiveness.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
But I think, you know, we kind.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Of get fooled by the Bills record a little bit.
Is a talented football team, Yeah right, there's a lot
of talent there, and so they were much better in
a six and six football team coming in and they
played like it. So look, I think that's about what
we expected when these two teams get together. And obviously
we got to go and talk about what happened at
the end with Mahomes and Tony and Travis Kelcey on
that play, and obviously they're up in arms about it.
(20:03):
What's your what's your take on all that?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Well, I'll give you a quick take on that. I'll
circle back and then we'll we'll uh, we'll go back
to that topic. But he's I watched the tape this morning.
It was it was it was offside, and it's not
like the It's not like the official knew what was
going to happen, that it was gonna be one of
the wildest, craziest players of the year. Before it's the snap,
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but the guy's a full yard off sides, like, what
are you doing? Yeah, throw the flag and then the
play happens. It's not like the play happens and he
goes up, I'm gonna throw that flag at Tiki tac
call and pull that back. He didn't know what was
gonna happen. He's just doing his job. So anyways, I
thought somebody had an interesting point after the game, which
was I don't even saw it. Somebody on on on
(20:45):
Twitter had said it that U, I don't mind that
Mahomes was pissed on the sideline. I don't mind what
he said in the in the post game, but like
shaking Josh Allen's hand after the game, like how about
just how about just hey, good game, Josh, Josh, Like
he told Josh, this is the worst call I've ever
seen with What does Josh say to that, Like, Hey, okay,
tough guys, you guys didn't have something go your way?
(21:05):
What's that feel like? I can't imagine. I don't have
words for that. But anyways, No, I went back and
watched the tape this morning, and a couple of things.
Number One, you know, Mahomes I thought, at times is
a little too aggressive, which is always a fine line
because he's so special. But I thought there were times
where he had things underneath an intermediate that were there
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and he was either holding the ball took a sack,
you know, holding the ball forcing it down the field,
versus taking what was there. I thought as the game progressed,
he started seeing it a little better and taking what
was there a little more consistently. Rice was definitely a
highlight for me going back and watching them, like, Okay,
they have something there, but they don't have they need
they need more guys just to give him more run
(21:50):
after catch because the Bills, this is the team that
did this the first time cut you know, three or
four years ago, when the Bills played safeties deep and
kind of really put the shell over this offense. That
was the first example that Now in that game, which
was a Thursday night game in Buffalo, the Chiefs and
ran it down their throats and were content to do that.
But they're gonna have to get more and more run
after catch receivers because teams are just going to try
(22:10):
and put a lid on them. So that's something they're
gonna have to do in the offseason. But I didn't
you know, Molda miss throws too. I mean like he
had some opportunities and missed, which I'm not used to
seeing at all. So I didn't think he played a
super clean game. I didn't think he played his best And.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
They're still struggling pressure wise.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah, and he moved they I thought they did a
good job early on, they moved the pocket around a
little bit. But there were three or four times where
you know, batted balls at the line of scrimmage, just
stuff you're not used to seeing, just kind of sloppy
uh offense for them, but uh, you know, I give
Buffalo credit on their side of things. They made them
uncomfortable and you you know, as a lot of teams
have done held them under twenty points and they just
(22:49):
don't you know, Hey, this is a this is a
thing where I left this game saying, there's a lot
of different takeaways. But if if the Bills sneak in,
you don't want to play them, You don't want to
see those guys as a road team, and you win
the AFC South and you got to have Josh Allen
Company coming to your place first round. I'm not loving that, right.
And the other thing is, even if Kansas City, you know,
(23:12):
isn't right, they they still have a chance in time
to figure this out. They're more than likely going to
still win the division. They're gonna get a home game
and get a chance to get going a little bit.
But they're gonna have to pack the road jerseys. They're
gonna end up playing on the road at some point
time in this postseason. I'm just not gonna throw dirt
on them by any stretch. But they are still searching.
They have not found it yet.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Guys kind of strange, isn't. Yeah, the Broncos are a
game back, That's what I'm saying, placed in the West,
you know, like in what we've got this is week fourteen,
we got fifty sixties, seventy eighty, We got four games left.
I mean, technically the Chargers and the Raiders are not
at a thing either.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
And I don't imagine that.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
The Chiefs are gonna lose three or four down the
stretch here. But but yeah, man, that's it's weird how
that division has kind of disintegrated outside of the Broncos
who have been on.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
A little bit. Yeah, no question. We don only spend
too much time here on this next one, Rett, but
it was an entertaining game just in terms of the
back and forth with the Bucks beating the Falcons twenty
nine to twenty five.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I think there's just two plays that really stick out
to me in this game, Bucks and Falcons.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
They threw it a bunch again, how about Drake London
good lord, Well.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Great to see like one of the guys with immense
talent like yeah, utilized in this offense. We've saw Kyle
Pitts get into the end zone for the fifth time
in his career, Bjon Robinson, you only had ten carries,
but was a factor in the past game, you know,
And I think that happens sometimes. I know we're all
kind of waiting, like, all right, what is Bijon just
going to start to get twenty carries a game here
at some point? Well, in fact, is Tyler Isle's year
(24:41):
is a pretty good player too, and so they can
spread those carries around as long as Bijeon is getting
those fifteen or so touches. When you factor in the
past game, it's good. But here's here's are the two plays.
Desnt Ritter throw an interception in this game, backed up
inside his own ten yard line. But the mechanics of
the play, I thought, we're kind of interesting, and I'll
send you some homework to go back and watch this one. Yea,
(25:04):
it is a He's essentially he's in the shotgun. He's
got the running back out to his left. He's throwing
He's going to throw a quick screen out to his right,
but he does a reverse move where his eyes go
away from the right side of the field. He's spinning
like three sixty spins left and then throwing back right,
(25:25):
so he loses vision right of what's happening on the
right side. Meanwhile, Carlton Davis sees this thing happening from
a mile away. Great, I assume, great film study, great
read recognition, react, and he picks the ball off right.
Carlton Davis picks the quick screen off and Ritter never
even saw him. But I don't know if that's as
much on him or as much on you know, what
(25:47):
they're asking him to do with the mechanics of that play.
And so they end up scoring a touchdown there, and
then you know, this next one is a safety. They're
in max protect down inside the five yard line. They
got a two man route combination and both of them
are running. We got the far guy on the left
side running a deep post, okay, and then the guy
(26:08):
in the right, Drake London's running a double move. So
Ritter is waiting. He hitches three times with his feet
planet in the end zone, but again their max protect
and in the antoine Winfield comes on. A Blitze beats
the doors off the full back and but Rider's holding
the ball three point seven seconds before he gets hit.
And you just can't do that in the end zone.
(26:29):
I don't care how many guys you got protected. Rank kidding,
So those two plays come come back and haunt the Falcons.
I think in that game that ends up being really close.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Tampa Bay Buccaneers at six and seven division leaders, how
about three way times six and seven? Yeah, life is good,
life is yeah, all right, we tease this at the
top the Jets Texans. It was yeah, well really kind
of a butt kicking thirty six. I touched on the
Zach Wilson stuff. They let him just kind of go
out there and play. He was loose under a lot
(26:58):
of pressure. He got sacked the bun times, but he
was able to get away escape, made some kind of
those vintage kind of school yard plays that we saw
during his last year at BYU. I thought, also, you know,
I wrote down a couple of things on him that like,
how do you make a guy comfortable? Right? A couple
of things. Well, number one, you start by not dropping
(27:18):
the football. This is the only game he's played in
this year where he didn't have drops. No drops for
the Jets in a rainy, messy weather game, which was nice.
But I thought, I thought he had some answers on
some hots, so you know, some of the pressure he got,
he had some answers. He was able to find him number.
That was great, and then I wrote down the three
s's like when you're baking in the game plan for
Zach Wilson. And again, I'm not saying he's going to
(27:39):
be a great player. I'm not even saying he's a
starting quarterback in the NFL. But if you're going to
get the best out of him from a scheme standpoint, screens, seams, scrambles,
that's that's what he does. That's where he's comfortable. That's
where he is. If you look at some of the
he's thrown some really nice seamballs of tight ends when
he can get the back of a linebacker in other words,
you're getting you're seeing the back of the linebacker's head
(28:00):
running down the scene with tight ends. He's hit a
handful of those this year. Where he's able to get
that right up over the top was conklin. I believe
in this one. I think he had rough well a
couple of those balls. But he loves that throw. He's
comfortable making that throw. So bake those into the offense.
Those seam balls, then screens. Obviously you've got brace Hall
is a big factor in that. Using him in the
screen game. That gives us some easy completions, as we
(28:22):
like to say, see the ball go through the hoop
and then the rest is kind of some school yard stuff.
You're not really calling a scramble. But give him the
liberty and the freedom. Hey, you get a free guy.
Make something happen. We don't need you to, you know,
I think in the past this year, oh, just dirt
the ball incompletion. Let's line up again. If we punt,
we punt. We've got a great defense, Like he gets
not who he is. Don't just to free him up
(28:43):
a little bit. I thought you did that. When you
watch this game. It was a mixture of those three things.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I'm glad you brought up those throws to the tight
ends because those stood out to me as we were
watching this game live. I'm like, man, you know, I
think maybe a couple of weeks ago, you know, Zach's
Zach's not pulling the trigger on that one, right, He's
a you know.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Risk, there's no risk throws you've got the back of
the linebacker's head. There's no risk he can't see the ball.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, and uh, and he placed it perfectly on a
couple of those and those were big ones. Obviously, Garrett
Wilson having a nice game here is a is a
good development for the Jets offense. But yeah, I mean,
I think what you said at the top of the
program here is is great. Go put that BYU helmet
back in there. Man, that's how this guy needs to play.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Like, let's take the handcumes live with the warts. Uh,
the other thing game with.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Josh Allen all the time, right, I mean, on a
on a different kind of scale, I think, But man.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
One of the things this guy's got to play watching
the other side of the ball. A Jets defense played great,
it was c J. Strouder had a tough day and
unfortunately got to got hit late and got knocked out.
But the Chargers game, as we referenced earlier, I think
the Chargers had one one conversion on third down, maybe
one of thirteen or something like that. Houston was one
for twelve on third down. So yeah, he tells you
(29:57):
a couple of things. Number One, Tank Dell's not playing.
Who's a comfort, you know, kind of a security blanket
so to speak for CJ. Stroud That's a part of it.
And the Jets have guys who can win on third down.
This is a third down league. So when you are
when you're trying and build your roster defensively, who helps
us win on third down? You know who can cover,
who can rush. The Jets are loaded in those in
(30:18):
those departments, they should be really good on third down defense.
And then the Jets were six or fifteen on third down,
so a much better performance for them on third down.
And I think Garrett Wilson had some of those of
tight ends as well, So I thought, sometimes you can
look at a box score and a idea this one
kind of told the story that Houston couldn't get anything
going offensively.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, and I think you know, you're starting to see
some of the attrition there have an effect on what
they want to do. It's not just Tank Dell, but
Dalton Schultz was out to and Dalton had been a
bit third down right there in the middle of the field,
there's your third down. And then when they when they
can't push. I mean, this team has made a living
on pushing the ball down the field. And with take
on the Nico Collins goes out early in the game,
(30:59):
you know, as well, you're really hamstrung here, and you
got CJ probably holding onto the ball, you know, a
little bit more than he'd like to, and get not
getting rid of it, and so he takes a couple
of those hits and that's unfortunate. Hopefully he gets back
soon enough. But look, you know, I don't know where
this is going to put the Texans in the in
the scheme, in the great scheme of like this year,
(31:20):
like finding their way into the playoffs. But the AFC South,
if the Jags keep losing, is going to be there.
If they can hold serve until you get Nico back,
you can get Dalton back, and then maybe you can
find a way to patch this thing together and find
your way into the postseason. But bottom line is bright future.
They're in Houston when they got all their weapons.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
No question. All right, well, I'll give you the scores
these other games. If there's another you want to throw
in there, go ahead. But you had the Niners behind
Brock Purdy. They get the Seahawks twenty eight to sixteen,
the Lions and the Bears. How about this one? The
Bears twenty eight to thirteen over the Lions. Colts Bengals
Colts thirty four to fourteen. The Saints beat the Panthers
twenty eight to six, while the Panthers are terrible. Vikings
(32:02):
Raiders three three to zero. So Thursday Night or a
Thursday Night er between a team that scored seven points
and a team that scored zero points, and it'll be
eight versus Eastern Stick So fun times, fun times, anything
you want to hit on those games, though, uh Man
(32:23):
brock Purdy was awesome. I mean, well, that's three and
sixty eight yards made it look easy, I mean, and
then you had it was a complete dominating performance. McCaffrey
goes for a buck forty five. They kicked their butts.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Jake Browning apparently had a thumb cramp.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I've never never heard of that. Yeah, yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Actually admitted that he did not drink it off water.
He got dehydrated and his thumb on his throwing hand cramped.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
He had to leave the game.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
AJ McCarron came in and played a couple of series,
but Browning did come back again. Chase brown I think
is one of the morals of the story. There had
a big time screen touchdown Joe Mixon. They're really starting
to cook with the running backs, maybe more so than
they did when Joe Burrow was in there, which is
kind of interesting to see a little bit. There may
be more of a push the ball down the field
(33:11):
with Burrow, but with Browning you keep the targets a
little bit closer into the line of scrimmage, and good
things kind of happen. And I think we're seeing that.
The interesting thing for me is like, what are the
bear you know, what's happening now with there?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Justin Field's played good?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
What are you going to do at number one now?
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah? But I still go back to the same thing.
I think you have to be honest with yourself and
if you really believe that these three things, two of
them are facts. Younger and cheaper, right, So younger and
cheaper are locked. You know, if you take a quarterback
at one in trade field, you're getting younger and cheaper guaranteed. Yeah.
(33:46):
The second, the third factor, the most important factor, are
you getting better? Right? Are you getting better?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Are right now?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Or are you going to be better in two years?
But it allows you the window to expand. So even
if you say, okay, you know, I won't mention the
quarterback that they would take there. I think we all
know who that is. You could say that quarterback year
one versus Justin Next year, Justin might be better on
a scale of one to one hundred. Maybe Justin is
(34:13):
an eighty three or eighty four next year and this
new Fricky quarterbacks is seventy five. Yeah, but that's not
why you make that decision. You make it for two
and three years down the line, when that quarterback still
cost you nothing. And that quarterback's now in ninety ninety one,
ninety three, ninety five, So that that's gonna be interesting.
And if I'm the Bears, people are saying, ohf Justin
(34:33):
Fields plays great down the stretch is gonna make their
life a nightmare. They're gonna have to sort this thing out.
I'm thinking, No, that's great. They hope he tears it up. Yeah,
tear it out of return return when you make the move.
So you know, it's gonna be a fascinating offseason. They
are going to be at the center of it, no doubt.
That's gonna be a fascinating's going to follow, Yeah, all right,
(34:54):
I want to run everybody. We'll be back with four
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(35:16):
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Network and streaming on NFL Plus. All right, well, Bucky
back probably tomorrow. I'll be back in the mix, Ratt.
Appreciate you doing a little extra homework this week. Good
to see you, man, and we'll catch up with everybody tomorrow.
Right here on, Move the Sticks.
And now move the Sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. DJ and
Rhett with you today. Buck is traveling so he is out.
But Rhet, how are you doing? Man?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, I'm good and I'm laughing a little bit because
I'm thinking I was, you know, buying the curtain a
little bit for our friends here, you know, when we're
trying to figure.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Out, you know, who's talking about what and which games.
I just knew.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I knew on that text thread that DJ was gonna
come in hot with that Jets Texans zame because you,
my friend. Every time I think I'm done, they pull
me back.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And you are. You can't get up, Wilson, I don't.
I don't know if you I don't know if you
saw this. First of all, I haven't watched the Jets
playing over a month. It's been so pitiful. But the
I was on the Insiders show, so I was on
with Tom Pea of the day. We were talking about
some backup quarterbacks and I said on that show, I
think I posted it, but I said, look, if I'm
(01:04):
the Jets, I would put a BYU helmet in Zach's
locker this week and tell him, look, we have we
have tried to tell you, don't make mistakes. We've tried
to put handcuffs on you. We've got a great defense.
Don't screw it up, Zach. Doesn't work. Okay, we can't
win games when we score six points. So go back
to Byu, Zack. You turn it over, bad things happen,
(01:26):
Let it roll off your shoulders, just let it rip.
Go out there and play. And I was like, watching
the game, I'll back and watch it, we'll go through it.
We'll get to it a little bit. Obviously it's not
a highlight game, but the uh, there's exactly what happened.
He went out there and played, and there's a couple
of them where you kind of cringe, like, oh gosh,
what is he doing? But then like that's kind of
who he is. Just let him be who he is.
Stop trying to make him something he's not.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, I mean, there was a definitely a couple of
throws on there that I saw from BYU, from the
from the XO tape that you ran up the draft
when the Jets took him to Overall, there's there's some
of that in there. So yeah, I'll be curious to
get your take on that when we get down there
to it.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But yeah, you du oh my gosh, wow, I have
I have no words with what the Chargers offense looks like.
I mean, it's a total con twist. The defense had
been so bad and now all of a sudden, the
defense for the last month or so, he was playing
really well, done a nice job offensively. They can't score
and no touchdowns last week against the Patriots, they got
(02:25):
a late score in this one, only put up seven
points against the Broncos, so they have kind of fallen apart.
Herbert breaks his finger. Looks like he's going to be
out Thursday. Who knows if he'll play again the rest
of the year. By all intensive purposes, they're in deep trouble.
I mean, they're have a very hard time coming back
from this. I think they're probably done in terms of
the playoffs. But I did want to swing it over
because what I'm calling the Charger games. For those who
(02:47):
don't know, I call the Charger games every week, so
we always touch on that game just because I'm there.
Buck always touched on the Jags game because he's calling
their games. So you're there. We're there, we might as
well tell people what we saw, and a lot of
times we can take kind of the slant from the
team that we're working for doing those games. I wanted
to spend my time here and give some flowers to
the Denver Broncos and particularly Advance Joseph. I went back
(03:09):
and looked at up. Let's look at these last games.
Here at the last seven games, Green Bay, they gave
up seventeen points KC nine, Buffalo twenty two, Minnesota twenty,
Cleveland twelve. Those are all wins. By the way, Houston
twenty two was the one loss, and they give up
seven in this game. So over the last seven games
they're averaging fifteen point five points allowed. The Niners lead
(03:29):
the NFL on the season, allowing fifteen point eight points
per game. Now, obviously because the seventy point game against
Miami and how bad they were early in the year,
you know their numbers are going to be middle of
the pack and not very impressive on the season. But
over the last seven weeks they're playing as well as
anybody defensively, and they're aggressive, and you know, the Chargers
(03:49):
could not pick up a blitz to save their life.
They hit them with so many different blitzes and got
free runners. But they are playing aggressive, they're creative and advanced.
Joseph has those guys playing good. All that's awesome, you know.
I think they're a game out of first place, by
the way.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Uh yeah, because if the Chiefs keep stumbling and we'll
get to that game crazy hear it a little bit
as well, Like, yeah, there's there's definitely some room there
for the Broncos to make some moves. And it's a
team that we kind of left for dead right when
they were what one in five and then went on
the five game and then lost to Tech the Texans
and then bounce back. So yeah, there's there's a lot
to like there. I think Joontay Williams is playing some
(04:26):
good football too.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Right with the way that there can happen right now?
Is your wife happy with the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
She is a Broncos fan, yep. Spent her her whole
life in and around Denver and Colorado, and she's pretty
swamped on in the work world on her side of
there's a lot of things going on in the in
the world on the news front these days, and so
so she's she I think unfortunately has been less of
a football fan than she would like. But yeah, definitely
got a little kick out of that one yesterday.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So they're playing good ball. I don't think we need
to spend any more time on that one. But now again,
the Broncos very much in the playoff and in the
division mix. As crazy as that sounds, But how about
the next one? Here? Buck was gonna hit this one
but raah, but I know you jumped in and did. Yeah,
I jumped in on the Rounds and we had.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
This one on our shift of Game Day Live. Mark
Ross and I were kind of looking at this and
the Browns had built a lead, Jags kind of came back.
Brown's built it again. And look, I think, first off,
let's credit Trevor Lawrence, right. I mean, after watching that
injury on Monday that I was like, yeah, no way,
no way, he plays, no way, he might be out
for the year. You know, like you're going through all
(05:30):
those machinations in your mind watching you know, an impact
player like that go down and not return, and then
you know he comes out here tough, tough dude. Plus
his offensive line is extremely depleted at the tackle position.
I mean, like we know they're down Cam Robinson Walker
Little was out to start this game, so they moved
Ezra Cleveland over to left tackle.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
He gets hurt in the first.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Half, and so Blake Hants comes in as they're essentially
fourth string left tackle. Look, he didn't have a great day,
but I don't know if that's putting him in a
great position either with the you know, the way that
the Browns can get after the passer. He played thirty
nine snaps, gave up four hits and eight pressures. Team
as a whole gave up twenty seven pressures on Trevor Lawrence, which.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Is that's not the team. Yeah, not the team you
want to be playing when you're not whole up front.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
And when you're a little banged up, you know, in
the mobility department. From the quarterback spot. Now, he threw
three picks. First one, he'll advise deep shot. Second one,
he got pressure and it was a miscommunication with Zay Jones.
Third one free rusher. He takes the shot down the sideline,
just overthrows. It was played well by Greg Newsom. But
I think what's most important here in this game is
Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Joe Flacco fits in this offense, and he is he
has given them. I think I would say, and it
probably isn't that much of a stretch to say there
are two best games of quarterback play the season. Here
we're saying he comes off the couch right, he's decisive,
he knows where he wants to go with the football.
He is unflustered in the pocket. He was also protected
(06:58):
pretty well. Give him that two arm is still terrific.
Like he's thirty eight years old. The arm is still there.
Like he goes he has a left hash shot. He
lets it rip from the minus twelve left hash. It
hits the sideline at the thirty two on the far
right side, and it's on the money, on time, perfect throw,
first down, Like that's big time. That's a big time
(07:20):
throw right there. He even showed some evasiveness in the pocket.
Rusher gets his hands on him, he escapes, scrambling out
to the right, makes a pretty throw on the run.
He just seems really comfortable, calm in the pocket. He's
got great touch, still layer and balls over the second level.
There is a lot to like. And I think the
Browns are right back in the thick of things. If
they were floundering a little bit as a playoff contender,
(07:41):
but that's a playoff looking team right there with Flacco
at quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Teach. Yeah, and I think you probably take some heart
by watching that if you're a Jets fan and say, hey,
look at Flacco at that age. Maybe Aaron Rodgers coming
off this injury next year still got a little magic
left in him. Nice to see the older guys with
the experience, and they got the whole thing with older quarterbacks.
And this is another Jet point, by the way, not
to get off on a tangent, but you've been just
invest in the offensive line. If you're gonna have an
old quarterback, you've got to protect them. The weapons aren't
(08:06):
as important as a protection the older you get at
the quarterback precition. But anyways, great to see Joe Flacco
get loose again. As you said right off the couch.
How about Flacco's old team, the Ravens, in one of
the games, probably the best games of the entire weekend,
came dout to the end and overtime they beat the
Rams thirty seven to thirty one.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I kept going back in because again, this is another
game in the early window that we had on Game
Day Live which, by the way, every Sunday on NFL Network.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
By the way, I did see the ratings the other day.
Up every year, year over year. It just keeps climbing. Hey,
bang bang, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Six hundred thousand people checking this out each and every week.
It's awesome to see. So we're watching this game and
it's it's back and forth. I mean, like every time
I'm giving score alert its bang a Rams and Ravens
scored again. A couple of just a just an overarching
kind of theme in this The Rams are a playoff
caliber team. Yeah, the Rams are a playoff caliber team
(08:58):
to go all the way to Baltimore or on the
road in the rain and give that team, who is
one of the two three best teams in the AFC
right now, an absolute run for their money, especially on offense.
I mean, like you look at the ran the ball
really well too. They then that's what they've been doing
this year. When Kyron Williams is healthy, man, that team
(09:18):
has been rolling on the ground. And then you throw
in obviously Cooper Cup and Puka Akua.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
They get Tyler Higbee.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Back, who was out in this game, although they did
get you know, a couple of good you know this
is good snaps from Davis. Allen, the young tight end
from Clemson, caught his first career touchdown in this game.
I think I would let him down here with some
major coverage busts on defense because they were in they
play and this is a really tight game, like even
across the board. Credits to the Rams offense. They scored
(09:46):
on all five of their red zone possessions, albeit three
touchdowns and two field goals, But on defense they let
up some explosive plays that just you can't have it.
And I don't know if they were I was texting
you back and forth. I was trying to figure out
what some of these coverages were on some of the
the Odell Beckham slugo just got Jordan Fuller. He bit
up hard on it and Odell's wide open Lamar underthrows him,
(10:08):
but he still gets into the end zone. They had
an Isaiah Likely play early in the first half where
he comes in motion and no one accounts for he
comes in motion, ends up being the third the outside
receiver in a three by one set and there's just
nobody there, so clear miscommunication there. Jordan Fuller misses the angle.
He had a tough game in this one, and then
(10:29):
on the last one. The last big, you know, kind
of misque on defense is a third and seventeen with
the game on the line, and they go down there
and allow Jay Flowers to cross Fuller's face going from
right to left and he catches the touchdown that gives
the Ravens the lead. Ultimately, the Rams work down there
(10:50):
and tie it up and go to overtime. But man,
just you take a couple of those plays away, and
I know it's hard to say that, but again when
they're miscommunications, and sometimes it seems like unforced errors, Yeah,
that's that's hard when you're that close to beating that
good of a team.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah. Look, give the Ravens credit. They've found ways to
win different types of games. Yes, they found themselves in
low scoring games, high scoring games. The offense with Lamar
Jackson really arn Legs doing everything in this game was
big for them. They needed all of it. They needed
all that offense. And this one, I will say defensively
for the Ravens, you know, they're they're a challenge with
what they do up front and the looks that they present.
(11:30):
I do think that the you know, the type of
teams are going to be able to do well against
them on that side of the ball, veteran quarterback, veteran coach,
because you have to have answers baked in for all
the different sim slashers you're gonna fire. And Stafford was
in the groove with his play caller and Sean McVay,
so they were seeing things the same. It's gonna be
a nightmare defense for young quarterbacks to deal with. But
(11:52):
I think that was a little bit of a blueprint
if you've got somebody who's been around the block a
few times, understands what looks he's been presented, and knows
where to attack the week's I thought that was kind
of the key to them there.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
And then obviously, you know Tyland Wallace the punt return Yeah, walkoff.
I mean that's huge, and he's not the regular punt
returner Devin du verne is. He goes out, Tyland Wallace
has to step in. I mean, it's kind of a
cool story. He was a senior bowler right from open
to Oklahoma State. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, doesn't get
a lot of reps on the offensive side of the ball,
but steps in a big spot and obviously gets that
(12:22):
done after the three and out, so on the Rams
first offensive possession in overtime.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
But the Rams are here to stay. Yeah, they're playing
good ball. We're gonna take quick break. We come back.
This is not a rerun. But we will get into
a game where the Eagles were pounded. We'll get into
that right after this. All right, right, this was billed
as the game of the day Sunday Night Football, Eagles Cowboys.
(12:50):
The Eagles have problems, and we'll get to those problems
in just a minute. They've been exposed really by the
other two I would say, clearly two teams that are
better than them right now. I don't know anyway other
way to say it, after watching what the Niners did
to them and then watching what the Cowboys did to
them in this one. But let's start with the Cowboys
on their side of things. Dak an efficient day two
under seventy seventy one yards, two touchdowns. They ran the
(13:12):
ball well, kind of did what they wanted. When I
looked at explosives in this game, which was interesting to
watch from the Cowboys standpoint, they found some. They found
some Waldo's on the other side they wanted to go
after and it was a lot of the young guys
or newer players there. Roby got torched in this game.
Eli Rix, who's been out there. He struggled. Kee Ringo,
(13:34):
a young guy to Georgia, he struggled. I mean it
was no, it was equal opportunity. But Zach was seeing
the field very well and just was was even though
they did hit him a little bit, heed him up
a little bit. They had matchups down the field that
they found very favorable, coming off of a game against
the Niners where they picked on this secondary a little bit.
(13:54):
I think it's a combination of maybe they're not as
talented in the back end in Philadelphia, but they're not
connected either. That's a kind of a buzz phrase you
hear when you talk to defensive coaches. Got to be
connected on the back end. They were not connected at all.
And there were some guys running free.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, and you know there are some young players. You
mentioned that Sidney Brown out there too, and I know
reblanken Ship left the game early and he's you know,
he's a guy that you know that's a big piece
of their secondary rotation there. And did you see anything
from Kevin Byerd in that one? You think, like you know, veteran.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Didn't have as much blood on his hands when I
went through and looked at all the big plays and
but but it was interesting. I was having to use
our lads to go through and like, who the heck
is this Eli Ricks? You know what I mean? Like
it was those those types of things, But there there
were other plays were like he's hitting you'll hit a
seam ball and there's another wide receiver on the on
the top of the on the top of the screen,
(14:48):
who's just naked wide open. It's like, dude, they're running
free all over the lease. And this is the Eagles team.
I think they had the number one pass defense in
the NFL last year, so you know, look drop off.
They hit him a little bit. Redick had two sacks,
but they you know, he's getting the ball out again.
I talk about being connected, it means when you're getting
home and then you're not tight in coverage, like there's
(15:10):
no you don't have time, you don't have time to
get there. There's too many there's too many openings. So
they've got major issues. And I think when you look
around the NFC, there's quarterbacks to take advantage of it.
If you're not good in the back end, they can
take advantage of it. And Dallas from what they are defensively,
they were dominant in this game. They ran it, they
could throw it when they needed to. It's a pretty
(15:30):
complete football team, man, one of the best Cowboy teams
we've seen in a long time.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, and you know, I think there were times this
year when the Cowboys had one of those games, you know,
where they kind of had, you know, one of those
letdowns and you didn't see that ground game, right, you
didn't see and they had a nice combo with Tony
Pollard and Rico Dowdle in their rushing for over one
hundred yards. And again, I just think that takes some
of that burden off of Dak Prescott, even though he's played,
(15:56):
you know, exceptionally well since that forty nine Ers loss
a couple weeks ago. But now we're talking about back
to back blowouts or from the Eagles. I mean, they
did score an offensive touchdown for the first time in
six years. Yeah, so what do we make of where
they are offensively right now?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Now?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
You want to talk about not running the football, they
mean they haven't they haven't been able to do it
very effective.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
No, I mean, look that the uh, the Niners is
as good at defense as there is in the league.
Dallas Cowboys are either. So there's there's part of that.
But if you're gonna get to through the tournament, those
are the teams you got to get through. So uh,
you know, look, I would say, man, if they get
healthy and uh and their full speed ahead in the postseason,
I think they can play with those teams. But man,
(16:39):
they've got to uh, they've got to clean up some
stuff on the back end and then offensively. I don't
know if it's just getting jailing healthier or or what
it is there, but yeah, you know, the one thing
with the Cowboys, they did not get caught up the
field against him. That's kind of like you talk about
a little bit of the blueprint there. Don't give him lanes,
don't get caught up the field, let him climb up
and run and see they kind of just put a
wall in front of him and took that away, and
(17:01):
he's you know, he's just not comfortable. He's not comfortable
right now. And it isn't because he's getting upfield pressure.
He's just not seen it. Well.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Cowboys have been really good at home They've now won
their fifteenth straight game at home, dating back to the
twenty twenty two seasons. So you think about the way
that they're surging right now, and you think about playoffs
and them trying to.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
The only problem is they have one team that's their kryptonite.
That's that's right, that's right, and that's the team they're
probably going to have to go on the road. I
would think I haven't looked at the at the time
they beat him head to head this year, to beat
the snot out of them, So I would think San
Francisco would hold the hold the tiebreaker there, see what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
But even just to get then NFC Championship game would
be a bit.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
It would be big. They're looking like they're heading that
way right now, so as it stands, yeah, I think
that would go through San Francisco. So let's get to
this next game, because this was you know, we talked
about the Cowboys Eagles being billed as the game of
the day, this one because of all the news surrounding
the Buffalo Bills and then the the Kansas City Chiefs
(17:57):
not looking right. This was an sreaking matchup, and then
it had a little drama at the end, which we'll
get to, but just overall impression of this game that
was won by the Buffalo Bills twenty seventeen, and I
would say it was a it was a must win
game for Buffalo and they got it. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Where they were you know, where they were sitting and
some of the games that they have lost that you'd
expect them to be, you know, much further along than
where they were. I mean, they're still sitting in the
in the eleven hole right now in the AFC, so
they still got work to do, which seems strange for
this team at this point. But you could not go
under five hundred right now, and especially as you were saying,
(18:35):
because you're going to start to get things piling on,
right with all the off the field stuff that they
were dealing with with Sean McDermott this this last week.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So that was a big one.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
And I think the early the way that they kind
of got after it early on really kind of helped
set the table for what they wanted to do in
this game. Thought Josh Allen played well early. He had
one of those plays where he was trying to do
a little too much and you'll see that. Obviously, you
just kind of take some of those, right, But they
jump out to the fourteen to nothing lead, and that
basically booied them the whole way because obviously the Chiefs
(19:06):
came back, you know, and kind of made this thing
a little bit closer seventeen fourteen after the Rashi Rice
touchdown catch, but the Chiefs just, I don't know, it's
good to see where she Rice continuing to ascend. Yeah,
he is a good player and and maybe that'll remove
some of the other issues that they're having with drop
(19:28):
and they still had drops in this game.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, you know, and that's just tough to see.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
And obviously I think not having Isaiah Pacheco really kind
of hurt him a little bit too. Couldn't really run
the ball with any sort of consistency or effectiveness.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
But I think, you know, we kind.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Of get fooled by the Bills record a little bit.
Is a talented football team, Yeah right, there's a lot
of talent there, and so they were much better in
a six and six football team coming in and they
played like it. So look, I think that's about what
we expected when these two teams get together. And obviously
we got to go and talk about what happened at
the end with Mahomes and Tony and Travis Kelcey on
that play, and obviously they're up in arms about it.
(20:03):
What's your what's your take on all that?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Well, I'll give you a quick take on that. I'll
circle back and then we'll we'll uh, we'll go back
to that topic. But he's I watched the tape this morning.
It was it was it was offside, and it's not
like the It's not like the official knew what was
going to happen, that it was gonna be one of
the wildest, craziest players of the year. Before it's the snap,
(20:25):
but the guy's a full yard off sides, like, what
are you doing? Yeah, throw the flag and then the
play happens. It's not like the play happens and he
goes up, I'm gonna throw that flag at Tiki tac
call and pull that back. He didn't know what was
gonna happen. He's just doing his job. So anyways, I
thought somebody had an interesting point after the game, which
was I don't even saw it. Somebody on on on
(20:45):
Twitter had said it that U, I don't mind that
Mahomes was pissed on the sideline. I don't mind what
he said in the in the post game, but like
shaking Josh Allen's hand after the game, like how about
just how about just hey, good game, Josh, Josh, Like
he told Josh, this is the worst call I've ever
seen with What does Josh say to that, Like, Hey, okay,
tough guys, you guys didn't have something go your way?
(21:05):
What's that feel like? I can't imagine. I don't have
words for that. But anyways, No, I went back and
watched the tape this morning, and a couple of things.
Number One, you know, Mahomes I thought, at times is
a little too aggressive, which is always a fine line
because he's so special. But I thought there were times
where he had things underneath an intermediate that were there
(21:28):
and he was either holding the ball took a sack,
you know, holding the ball forcing it down the field,
versus taking what was there. I thought as the game progressed,
he started seeing it a little better and taking what
was there a little more consistently. Rice was definitely a
highlight for me going back and watching them, like, Okay,
they have something there, but they don't have they need
they need more guys just to give him more run
(21:50):
after catch because the Bills, this is the team that
did this the first time cut you know, three or
four years ago, when the Bills played safeties deep and
kind of really put the shell over this offense. That
was the first example that Now in that game, which
was a Thursday night game in Buffalo, the Chiefs and
ran it down their throats and were content to do that.
But they're gonna have to get more and more run
after catch receivers because teams are just going to try
(22:10):
and put a lid on them. So that's something they're
gonna have to do in the offseason. But I didn't
you know, Molda miss throws too. I mean like he
had some opportunities and missed, which I'm not used to
seeing at all. So I didn't think he played a
super clean game. I didn't think he played his best And.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
They're still struggling pressure wise.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah, and he moved they I thought they did a
good job early on, they moved the pocket around a
little bit. But there were three or four times where
you know, batted balls at the line of scrimmage, just
stuff you're not used to seeing, just kind of sloppy
uh offense for them, but uh, you know, I give
Buffalo credit on their side of things. They made them
uncomfortable and you you know, as a lot of teams
have done held them under twenty points and they just
(22:49):
don't you know, Hey, this is a this is a
thing where I left this game saying, there's a lot
of different takeaways. But if if the Bills sneak in,
you don't want to play them, You don't want to
see those guys as a road team, and you win
the AFC South and you got to have Josh Allen
Company coming to your place first round. I'm not loving that, right.
And the other thing is, even if Kansas City, you know,
(23:12):
isn't right, they they still have a chance in time
to figure this out. They're more than likely going to
still win the division. They're gonna get a home game
and get a chance to get going a little bit.
But they're gonna have to pack the road jerseys. They're
gonna end up playing on the road at some point
time in this postseason. I'm just not gonna throw dirt
on them by any stretch. But they are still searching.
They have not found it yet.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Guys kind of strange, isn't. Yeah, the Broncos are a
game back, That's what I'm saying, placed in the West,
you know, like in what we've got this is week fourteen,
we got fifty sixties, seventy eighty, We got four games left.
I mean, technically the Chargers and the Raiders are not
at a thing either.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
And I don't imagine that.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
The Chiefs are gonna lose three or four down the
stretch here. But but yeah, man, that's it's weird how
that division has kind of disintegrated outside of the Broncos
who have been on.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
A little bit. Yeah, no question. We don only spend
too much time here on this next one, Rett, but
it was an entertaining game just in terms of the
back and forth with the Bucks beating the Falcons twenty
nine to twenty five.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I think there's just two plays that really stick out
to me in this game, Bucks and Falcons.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
They threw it a bunch again, how about Drake London
good lord, Well.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Great to see like one of the guys with immense
talent like yeah, utilized in this offense. We've saw Kyle
Pitts get into the end zone for the fifth time
in his career, Bjon Robinson, you only had ten carries,
but was a factor in the past game, you know,
And I think that happens sometimes. I know we're all
kind of waiting, like, all right, what is Bijon just
going to start to get twenty carries a game here
at some point? Well, in fact, is Tyler Isle's year
(24:41):
is a pretty good player too, and so they can
spread those carries around as long as Bijeon is getting
those fifteen or so touches. When you factor in the
past game, it's good. But here's here's are the two plays.
Desnt Ritter throw an interception in this game, backed up
inside his own ten yard line. But the mechanics of
the play, I thought, we're kind of interesting, and I'll
send you some homework to go back and watch this one. Yea,
(25:04):
it is a He's essentially he's in the shotgun. He's
got the running back out to his left. He's throwing
He's going to throw a quick screen out to his right,
but he does a reverse move where his eyes go
away from the right side of the field. He's spinning
like three sixty spins left and then throwing back right,
(25:25):
so he loses vision right of what's happening on the
right side. Meanwhile, Carlton Davis sees this thing happening from
a mile away. Great, I assume, great film study, great
read recognition, react, and he picks the ball off right.
Carlton Davis picks the quick screen off and Ritter never
even saw him. But I don't know if that's as
much on him or as much on you know, what
(25:47):
they're asking him to do with the mechanics of that play.
And so they end up scoring a touchdown there, and
then you know, this next one is a safety. They're
in max protect down inside the five yard line. They
got a two man route combination and both of them
are running. We got the far guy on the left
side running a deep post, okay, and then the guy
(26:08):
in the right, Drake London's running a double move. So
Ritter is waiting. He hitches three times with his feet
planet in the end zone, but again their max protect
and in the antoine Winfield comes on. A Blitze beats
the doors off the full back and but Rider's holding
the ball three point seven seconds before he gets hit.
And you just can't do that in the end zone.
(26:29):
I don't care how many guys you got protected. Rank kidding,
So those two plays come come back and haunt the Falcons.
I think in that game that ends up being really close.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Tampa Bay Buccaneers at six and seven division leaders, how
about three way times six and seven? Yeah, life is good,
life is yeah, all right, we tease this at the
top the Jets Texans. It was yeah, well really kind
of a butt kicking thirty six. I touched on the
Zach Wilson stuff. They let him just kind of go
out there and play. He was loose under a lot
(26:58):
of pressure. He got sacked the bun times, but he
was able to get away escape, made some kind of
those vintage kind of school yard plays that we saw
during his last year at BYU. I thought, also, you know,
I wrote down a couple of things on him that like,
how do you make a guy comfortable? Right? A couple
of things. Well, number one, you start by not dropping
(27:18):
the football. This is the only game he's played in
this year where he didn't have drops. No drops for
the Jets in a rainy, messy weather game, which was nice.
But I thought, I thought he had some answers on
some hots, so you know, some of the pressure he got,
he had some answers. He was able to find him number.
That was great, and then I wrote down the three
s's like when you're baking in the game plan for
Zach Wilson. And again, I'm not saying he's going to
(27:39):
be a great player. I'm not even saying he's a
starting quarterback in the NFL. But if you're going to
get the best out of him from a scheme standpoint, screens, seams, scrambles,
that's that's what he does. That's where he's comfortable. That's
where he is. If you look at some of the
he's thrown some really nice seamballs of tight ends when
he can get the back of a linebacker in other words,
you're getting you're seeing the back of the linebacker's head
(28:00):
running down the scene with tight ends. He's hit a
handful of those this year. Where he's able to get
that right up over the top was conklin. I believe
in this one. I think he had rough well a
couple of those balls. But he loves that throw. He's
comfortable making that throw. So bake those into the offense.
Those seam balls, then screens. Obviously you've got brace Hall
is a big factor in that. Using him in the
screen game. That gives us some easy completions, as we
(28:22):
like to say, see the ball go through the hoop
and then the rest is kind of some school yard stuff.
You're not really calling a scramble. But give him the
liberty and the freedom. Hey, you get a free guy.
Make something happen. We don't need you to, you know,
I think in the past this year, oh, just dirt
the ball incompletion. Let's line up again. If we punt,
we punt. We've got a great defense, Like he gets
not who he is. Don't just to free him up
(28:43):
a little bit. I thought you did that. When you
watch this game. It was a mixture of those three things.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I'm glad you brought up those throws to the tight
ends because those stood out to me as we were
watching this game live. I'm like, man, you know, I
think maybe a couple of weeks ago, you know, Zach's
Zach's not pulling the trigger on that one, right, He's
a you know.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Risk, there's no risk throws you've got the back of
the linebacker's head. There's no risk he can't see the ball.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, and uh, and he placed it perfectly on a
couple of those and those were big ones. Obviously, Garrett
Wilson having a nice game here is a is a
good development for the Jets offense. But yeah, I mean,
I think what you said at the top of the
program here is is great. Go put that BYU helmet
back in there. Man, that's how this guy needs to play.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Like, let's take the handcumes live with the warts. Uh,
the other thing game with.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Josh Allen all the time, right, I mean, on a
on a different kind of scale, I think, But man.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
One of the things this guy's got to play watching
the other side of the ball. A Jets defense played great,
it was c J. Strouder had a tough day and
unfortunately got to got hit late and got knocked out.
But the Chargers game, as we referenced earlier, I think
the Chargers had one one conversion on third down, maybe
one of thirteen or something like that. Houston was one
for twelve on third down. So yeah, he tells you
(29:57):
a couple of things. Number One, Tank Dell's not playing.
Who's a comfort, you know, kind of a security blanket
so to speak for CJ. Stroud That's a part of it.
And the Jets have guys who can win on third down.
This is a third down league. So when you are
when you're trying and build your roster defensively, who helps
us win on third down? You know who can cover,
who can rush. The Jets are loaded in those in
(30:18):
those departments, they should be really good on third down defense.
And then the Jets were six or fifteen on third down,
so a much better performance for them on third down.
And I think Garrett Wilson had some of those of
tight ends as well, So I thought, sometimes you can
look at a box score and a idea this one
kind of told the story that Houston couldn't get anything
going offensively.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, and I think you know, you're starting to see
some of the attrition there have an effect on what
they want to do. It's not just Tank Dell, but
Dalton Schultz was out to and Dalton had been a
bit third down right there in the middle of the field,
there's your third down. And then when they when they
can't push. I mean, this team has made a living
on pushing the ball down the field. And with take
on the Nico Collins goes out early in the game,
(30:59):
you know, as well, you're really hamstrung here, and you
got CJ probably holding onto the ball, you know, a
little bit more than he'd like to, and get not
getting rid of it, and so he takes a couple
of those hits and that's unfortunate. Hopefully he gets back
soon enough. But look, you know, I don't know where
this is going to put the Texans in the in
the scheme, in the great scheme of like this year,
(31:20):
like finding their way into the playoffs. But the AFC South,
if the Jags keep losing, is going to be there.
If they can hold serve until you get Nico back,
you can get Dalton back, and then maybe you can
find a way to patch this thing together and find
your way into the postseason. But bottom line is bright future.
They're in Houston when they got all their weapons.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
No question. All right, well, I'll give you the scores
these other games. If there's another you want to throw
in there, go ahead. But you had the Niners behind
Brock Purdy. They get the Seahawks twenty eight to sixteen,
the Lions and the Bears. How about this one? The
Bears twenty eight to thirteen over the Lions. Colts Bengals
Colts thirty four to fourteen. The Saints beat the Panthers
twenty eight to six, while the Panthers are terrible. Vikings
(32:02):
Raiders three three to zero. So Thursday Night or a
Thursday Night er between a team that scored seven points
and a team that scored zero points, and it'll be
eight versus Eastern Stick So fun times, fun times, anything
you want to hit on those games, though, uh Man
(32:23):
brock Purdy was awesome. I mean, well, that's three and
sixty eight yards made it look easy, I mean, and
then you had it was a complete dominating performance. McCaffrey
goes for a buck forty five. They kicked their butts.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Jake Browning apparently had a thumb cramp.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I've never never heard of that. Yeah, yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Actually admitted that he did not drink it off water.
He got dehydrated and his thumb on his throwing hand cramped.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
He had to leave the game.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
AJ McCarron came in and played a couple of series,
but Browning did come back again. Chase brown I think
is one of the morals of the story. There had
a big time screen touchdown Joe Mixon. They're really starting
to cook with the running backs, maybe more so than
they did when Joe Burrow was in there, which is
kind of interesting to see a little bit. There may
be more of a push the ball down the field
(33:11):
with Burrow, but with Browning you keep the targets a
little bit closer into the line of scrimmage, and good
things kind of happen. And I think we're seeing that.
The interesting thing for me is like, what are the
bear you know, what's happening now with there?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Justin Field's played good?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
What are you going to do at number one now?
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah? But I still go back to the same thing.
I think you have to be honest with yourself and
if you really believe that these three things, two of
them are facts. Younger and cheaper, right, So younger and
cheaper are locked. You know, if you take a quarterback
at one in trade field, you're getting younger and cheaper guaranteed. Yeah.
(33:46):
The second, the third factor, the most important factor, are
you getting better? Right? Are you getting better?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Are right now?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Or are you going to be better in two years?
But it allows you the window to expand. So even
if you say, okay, you know, I won't mention the
quarterback that they would take there. I think we all
know who that is. You could say that quarterback year
one versus Justin Next year, Justin might be better on
a scale of one to one hundred. Maybe Justin is
(34:13):
an eighty three or eighty four next year and this
new Fricky quarterbacks is seventy five. Yeah, but that's not
why you make that decision. You make it for two
and three years down the line, when that quarterback still
cost you nothing. And that quarterback's now in ninety ninety one,
ninety three, ninety five, So that that's gonna be interesting.
And if I'm the Bears, people are saying, ohf Justin
(34:33):
Fields plays great down the stretch is gonna make their
life a nightmare. They're gonna have to sort this thing out.
I'm thinking, No, that's great. They hope he tears it up. Yeah,
tear it out of return return when you make the move.
So you know, it's gonna be a fascinating offseason. They
are going to be at the center of it, no doubt.
That's gonna be a fascinating's going to follow, Yeah, all right,
(34:54):
I want to run everybody. We'll be back with four
more episodes this week, including The Move, a six video
show that streams four pm Pacific every Tuesday on the
NFL Fast Channel and also remind you of the Saturday
Showdown is back to Saturday with an exclusive tripleheader live
on NFL Network. Watch Vikings Bengals. That's at one pm Eastern,
followed by Steelers Colts and then the Broncos in the
(35:16):
Lions in primetime. That's Saturday, December sixteenth, only on NFL
Network and streaming on NFL Plus. All right, well, Bucky
back probably tomorrow. I'll be back in the mix, Ratt.
Appreciate you doing a little extra homework this week. Good
to see you, man, and we'll catch up with everybody tomorrow.
Right here on, Move the Sticks.
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