December 16, 2025 • 26 mins
Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks and Rhett Lewis return with a new episode of Move the Sticks. The guys make their Week 16 Rookie Draft picks (0:00) before spotlighting Bills OC Joe Brady as Coordinator of the Week (8:20). Then, the trio dive deep into the best rookie draft classes among playoff teams. (15:11)
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
What's up, everybody?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky and Rhett with
you on a Rookie episode. I guess we could call
these each and every week. And I gotta be honest,
my enthusiasm has jumped up a NOTx this week because Rhett,
who's just had a strangleholding the top spot. Nothing nothing
changed there but Bucky representing the team here the home
(00:28):
is making a push.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
With an unbelievable week clean sweek, uh clean sweep all
the way across the board for buck, he goes Henderson,
went off Travion, then he gets a book a little
Hio State Ohio State magic there with those two and
then Harld Fannon Junior. So Bucky got nine points I
am easily won for me from Colson Lovelin.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Htt got two.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
But you look up now and now it's it's it's
it's tight and snug up a little bit here. Rhet's
got sixty six. Bucks got fifty eight. He passed me.
I've got fifty six, so I'm ten behind the leaders here.
But we are coming down the home stretch here for
the rookies I normally try and get to some other
topics first, but I don't want to miss around.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I gotta write here.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
I got to it.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, I just feel like I feel like we can
see him a little bit now, like it would gotten
to the point where HTT was getting a little out
of vision, and now you know the father is.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
A little distracted.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Although full disclosure, before we started the episode, Rett's giving
us all the statistical rundown on the last month for rookies,
which didn't make me feel great preparation.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Hilarious.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I just look, I mean, are we are we going
to do anything?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Are you doing anything?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
How you do everything?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
So I get thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you,
coach thanks coach buck right there.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Just now, I uh, we are done with bias, correct,
I'm not yeah, yeah, yeah, We're long. I'm gonna be
yeah yeah yeah, making sure I'm going Travon Henderson with
the first pick. Let's not mess around here.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Ravens on a Sunday night in Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yea and three, he can pop it in three, give
him three carries, three touches. He can do all his damage.
Right there, Bucky, you are up next, Buddy.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, and then I got back to Max.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah, Travian Henderson is going. This is tough because I'm
looking at one game and I'm looking at the Buccaneers
versus the Panthers to figure out which receiver I want,
and I'm trying to who's going to throw it the most.
Give me t Mac this week, mc millan Mac.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, Okay, So I've got my pick of the litter
with the tight ends and Harold Fannin has been going
off as of late. The Browns are at home against
the Bills. I just think target share. I just don't
know this this Philip, this Phillip trust Tyler Warren. Yet
(03:04):
you know it didn't really feel like it this last
week as much the Colts.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Colts have the Niners on Monday Night.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I'm gonna go Harold Fannin and get the tight end
done right there with with that pick and then with
my next pick with the running backs. This is a
tricky one because I feel like I have a phenomenal
matchup if I want to go Woody Marx Texans taken
on the Raiders at home.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Raiders are in trouble, not a good outfit, not a
not a great team.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
There and apparently Woody was injured, but said Dimigo Ryan
said he could have gone back in. So at that point,
I'm gonna go Woody Marks. Give me Woody Marks for
the Houston Texans. So I got Fannin and Marx.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
All right, that's so it comes back my way, right yep? Well,
tight end big gang like big game, big matchups. This
is personal Windy City matchup against the Packers. Ben Johnson
has to get back at his buddy who we candshake.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Lovelin Okay, mm hmm, got Colston. This is crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Tyler Warren is not even the first and I'm in
the first two picks.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I watched the game, yeah, I watched it in It's
not gonna really get there. I go get you one.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Man, Yeah, because I'm I think I gotta go a
little Homer pick here. I'm gonna go I'm gonna go Gadston.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Okay. So we're leaving Tyler Warren out of.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
The next it's not getting picked this week, Okay, I
gotta get with the wide out.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I'm gonna go with a BUCA.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, So that leaves me with the wide outs here, Dang,
I mean, do I double up on Texans. Here do
I go back to Sarah and Higgins? Well, dare I uh.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Luther Burden, Luthor Burden has been cooking man.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Yeah, he didn't get banged up. He get banged up.
I felt like, I know, I think we're okay on that.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
You know, he's kind of been slowly coming on a
little bit too, but just not not enough. As Pat
Bryant with the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Let's step out on a limb.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Here.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
You put that line in the water and pulled.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, real quick, real quick, real quick.
I think bus pick it is.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yes, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Sorry, okay, buck don't matter.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I got I got a running back, so it doesn't matter.
So I'm gonna take a more in Hampton.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Oh okay, yeah, sure, there you go. Yeah, it didn't
matter all right.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
By the way, Gavin did usually actually wrote out rets
cheating in the chat right there.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Pollution.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, just trying to Yeah, I mean it like it
obviously didn't matter, all right.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
I think I think Dunesday is like getting a little
bit healthier here target. You don't know if he's going
to go.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
There was an article this morning I read that said
they might try and you know, hold him time with
him and get him ready for the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
So dang.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Boy, jimriy DK just still sitting up there, just not
I just don't feel great about it. Six point two
yards per catch, not doing it, not doing it.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I'm going to tell you that you're crazy for not
picking a player. Once this is all done, Okay, let me.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Make sure I'm not missing anything here.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Mm hmm Okay, well you we're all crazy then, I
guess right, because you guys have passed them.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
What am I missing? What am I missing?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
See?
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Now you're screwing with me here.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Well you come and make a decision. We got a
time you know they lowered it to eight minutes now
in the yeah, real prap.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Okay, give give me we're doubling. Give me Jayden and Higgins.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Okay the last two weeks, uh, Luther Burden six for
sixty seven or no, sorry, four for sixty seven, six
for eighty four. And I just told you roma Duonday
is a good chance he's not playing, and you've got
no ome you're going to score points.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
He's been, he's been Caleb's guy.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Man, It's true, all right, going, do I get my
pick back? No?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
You already made your pick, Higgins.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
I'm good. I'm doubling up on Texans.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Okay, Yeah, No, I think no Warren and no Burden
getting picked was probably will surprise him. Yeah, but Gatston
had a nice game last week, and I think the
Cowboys defense like a little vulnerable just here this weekend.
So yeah, that's that's not a bad all right, Let's
get to our hot or not segment.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Guys. Oh, before we do that.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
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Bill's offensive coordinator Joe Brady.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Before we get to what he's.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Accomplished with this group, Buck, do you like Joe Brady
as a hot head coaching candidate in this cycle?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I certainly understand why he is hot head coach candidate,
and I think he's gonna get a job. He's gonna
have his pickup jobs. What they've been able to do
with the Buffalo Bills. As soon as you pour dirt
on them and think that they are done, they find
a way to re emerge. And I think this performance
that he had last week kind of embodies what the
Buffalo Bills are. They're down by a ton early, find
a way to get to it late. Josh Allen, the
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full Josh Allen experience is in effect, but they still
are able to run the football with games cook. The
one thing that Joe Brady has done, and I would
say in his evolution from his first time as an OC,
the running game. He has mastered the running game and
the bigs and heavies and creating different matchups while also
taking advantage of his quarterback strengths. Maskall play call Master,
(09:16):
will play call the play design.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Yeah. Man.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
It's the thing is, though Josh Allen doesn't exist on
the teams in which he is going to go trying
to be a head coach.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
I mean that, dude.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I just get you know, watching that game against the Patriots. Yeah,
you know, like all right, seven to nothing, fourteen nothing,
twenty one nothing. I just didn't feel like at any
point in time that they were out of the game,
just you know, because of what we've seen with Josh Allen.
It's kind of like that Mahomes feeling, you know, back
in the in the heyday there with the Chiefs. But
the thing I'll say is, you know, in the second half,
it felt like they found a way to be more
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on schedule. Every one of their five straight touchdowns were
scored inside the red zone, right, So these were extended drives.
These were drives that were getting down there. And you
know what the spark was. The spark was the Ray
Davis kickoff return at the end of the first half.
Then they get the face mask on top of it,
they get a short field, they go down and score
at the end of the first half, get on the board,
and then they went for their next four possessions, they
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got touchdowns.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
But look at this.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Look at the.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
First the third down, the third down conversions in this game,
the yarditch. Okay, third and three, they had a third
and three, third and three, third and seven, third and one,
They had a fourth and three that they ended up converting,
and then they had another third and two. I mean,
they were on schedule in this game in the second half,
whereas in the first half they couldn't stay on the field.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
The play disparity was so big, and then they absolutely
dominated every total yards, total plays, certainly with run plays
and James Cook majority of his yards coming in the
second half. I just feel like they were more of
themselves and they just executed better. And I think, you know,
one of those picks that we talk about a lot,
you know, they're kind of fun to talk about. The
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Jackson Hawes pick, I think was such a big deal
for them, allowed them to do so much, and then
to have Knox and kincad on the field at the
same time. Josh Allen is able to spread the ball around,
and that's when they're at their best. When you know
when their lack of an alpha on the edge doesn't
show up, is when he can spread that thing around
all those different targets and they're all picking up first
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downs and staying on schedule there.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
I thought that was a big piece of their effort
in the second half.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I think he's got a compelling case to make in
an interview that and obviously these are unbelievable quarterbacks, probably
both Hall of famers. But when you can say, hey,
Lsu Joe Burrow inside in a dome wide outs, we're
five out, we are empty we are out the gate,
everybody out in the route, and let's dice them up. Now,
he saw in Buffalo a little bit of that a
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few years back. Now they're a twelve thirteen personnel team,
run of the ball as well as anybody playing outdoors
in weather like He's got a very physical team. So
you can go into that interview and say what offense
do I run? Will you tell me who my players are,
and I'll tell you what offense I'm going to run
because I can. I can mold this thing around the
personnel that we have, Buck, And how many times have
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you seen guys try and recreate the same thing in
a new spot without the same personnel.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
It doesn't work, Yeah, it doesn't work. In it to
me speaks to the play call it in the adaptability
being able to be flexible in terms of, hey, I'm
going to adapt to the personnel that I have. This
is what's best for this team compared to what was
best for my last team. And you're right. The Buffalo
Bills are interesting because they did go from being kind
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of an out and we go throw it all over
the yard to a more controlled offense with James Cook
playing a big part of it is. I'm gonna say this,
I think Joe Brady's doing such a great job because
when you look at their team, particularly on the offense,
to me, there's only two maybe three blue chip dudes
if you talk about Josh Allen, James Cook, and then
maybe Deonds if you want to throw him in that category. Yeah,
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they're doing it with I don't want to say regular
Joe's out there, but they're not doing it with superstars.
So to me, that's where the schematics matter more than
some of these other teams that can just out talent.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, if there was ever a doubt whether Josh Allen
was a truck or trailer, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Think there was one.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
But yeah, I mean this is a great example of
a quarterback helping elevate guys too.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
And I think, you know, a big part of that
is the is.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
You know, the way in which Joe Brady allows him
that opportunity to go out there and spread that ball
around and find different ways to get all those different
targets involved.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Well, they do a good job protecting the quarterback, getting
the ball out quick, and they run the ball. A
couple of stats gab threw in here into the end
of the document. It's interesting when you look at this team,
number three scoring offense and total offense number one, rushing
yards per game, number two in EPA added per rush,
number four EPA per pass. They allow the fifth fewest
pressures in the league. James Cook has been hit by
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a line of scrimmage on just thirty two point nine
percent of his carries. That's the second lowest mark amongst
running backs. And the tight ends of average ten point
three yards per target this season, the most among all
tired units. So that's that tells you the story. You
can't be more efficient and you can't do a better
job of utilizing the strength of your team buck than
the job that Joe Brady and Josh Allen have done together.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
There, No, they do a terrific job. And if they
can just have one of their perimeter playmakers emerge as
a consistent for us as a number one, not that
he has to be a high end, top ten receiver,
but someone that each and every week you can count
on to give you maybe seventy five eighty yards on
perimeter win they're one on one matchups. Man, this offense
can go to another level. Even though we and we
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wax poetically about what their numbers and efficiency numbers are.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
You know, it's crazy question.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
In the run game, I mean the Bills ran it
twenty six times in the second half. Patriots ran it
three times. Yeah, Now one of them was that was
an explosive touchdowns, right, yeah, look at that. But dang
that is that is a disparity if I've ever seen one.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
So that's their formula.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, not ideal on the Patriots side of things of
finishing that ball game. That was this week's Hot or
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move right back after this. All right, guys, I want
to hit you on this topic on some rookie classes
in the job that they've done. I was looking at
some of these teams that are having success this year,
and man, they're getting some big time impact from their rookies.
(15:22):
You know, we're just talking about New England and a
tough loss that they just had, but that is a
rookie class that has been outstanding. I'll give you I'll
give you three options here and rhet you can lead
us off. Buck, you go next, and I'll clean it up.
But if you're just looking at teams right now, some
playoff teams, and you look at New England the job
that their rookie class has done. You look at Seattle
the rookies that they have and the job that they've done,
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and I'll mention the Chargers with the job that those
rookies have done. What stands out to you the most?
Give me those three AGAs Chargers, New England, Seattle and
the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, I think New England to me, I mean, is
the one that really stands out the most. You know, obviously,
now that Trevon Henderson, you know, is really rolling. I
think that's that has obviously been such a key piece.
And then the fact that you were able to remake
your offensive line and the entire left side.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Of it with two rookies, I think that's pretty rare.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I mean, obviously, you draft the guy up in the
top five, you're kind of expecting that dude to start
for you on the offensive line, But then to get
Jared Wilson in the third and have him jump in
there as a starting left guard, and I know, both
of them kind of been banged up a little bit
and in and out of the lineup now. But to
be able to count on that and to set that
up for your second year quarterback, that's so big. And
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then you know, they they missed on receivers the year before, right,
but it hasn't really hurt him that much because they've
done a nice job of kind of supplementing that with
some guys that were kind of left for dead.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Kishan Boutie. I don't think anybody count on him being a.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Guy, you know this year, and they've kind of gone
back and kind of redeveloped some other guys from previous classes.
So I would say that's kind of a bonus into
this year's class because I don't think we've seen much
of you Kayshawan.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Throughout you know, his his career up until this year.
So I think I think.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
That's really really been a huge piece. And then look,
the free agent acquisitions on the defensive side of the
ball were big, you know as well. So I think
you know, Elliott and Mike and that whole crew up
there have done just a really good job of you know,
the homegrown development and then really nice kind of judicious. Uh,
you know picks into free agency. Now, look, they had
to pay big money for him, certainly, and they had
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money to spend, but they were they didn't really whiff,
which I think is obviously a big piece of free agency.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah. And when I think about those three things, uh,
the Seattle Seahawks comes to mind. And the reason it
comes to mind is like, look, this was a new
error that they kicked off. You know, when b Carroll left,
it was the first time that Josh Snyder had full
control of the board and being able to do it
to him and Mike McDonald putting their vision together. And
then this year, you look, Gray is able to being
exact as advertised. They can run the football when they
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want to run it. They've been able to protect saim donald.
They created explosive plays while being able to control roll
of the game on offense. And then Nick Mammy Warry
like just being able to find someone like I know
they don't like to shop in the same store. Sometimes
you see a Cam chance like, oh, I want to
look clone, but man, he's as close to Cam as
you can find in terms of a big safety that
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can come down in the box and do some of
those things watching them up close, because when they came
to Jacksonville and just watching the size and the speed
and the just overall the explosiveness of that roster. They've
done a good job. But those two rickeys in particular,
they have stepped up immediately and given big contributions.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah, and they've been Horton when he's been out there.
He's made some plays for him early in the season,
for sure. Yes, Yeah, did some nice things for him.
It's been a good class there from Seattle Royo kind
of you know, play here or there. They just got
Riley Mills back. He had his first game this last week.
He got seven snaps and showed a little penetration there.
So I think he's got a chance to really help
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him coming down the home stretch. But those are two
excellent ones now. And I know what some people are thinking,
what about the Cleveland Browns. We're just talking playoff teams here.
Cleveland's had an unbelievable class. Those guys have all done
a really nice job. Some other teams as well. H
The other team, I'll get to the Chargers in just
a second. That that deserves mentioned here is the Bears.
With that With that Bears class playing big, big roles.
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When you look at what they did, Colson Lovelin's been awesome,
Luther Burd's really come on, Trapillo has been able to
get out there. You've seen my young guy who's done
a really nice job forming that one two punch. So
Chicago's got a lot out of their rookie class. But
when I you know the reason, I want to mention
those teams and we'll get to the Chargers here. I'm
watching that game call in that game last week, and
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I'm watching Omar and Hampton popper run. I'm watching Trey
Harris make a big play before the half to kind of,
you know, save their game and potentially their season. Jamari
Caldwell has been playing starter snaps at defensive tackle. KeAndre
Lambert Smith has the kickoff return that puts some in
position to get those points. He's you know, had an
opportunity to get some some ops here. Rondy Gatson has
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been awesome as a tight with the fifth round, one
hundred and sixty fifth overall pick.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
RJ.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Mickens has got his hands on balls as some interceptions
this year. It's kind of that third safety that has
a lot of impact. Man from one draft class on
a team that's got a chance to clinch a playoff
spot here this week.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
I mean, look, it's so good. It's funny. You talked
about RJ. Mickens and some of the down the line
guys that have made contributions. I think that is the
front office and the coaching staff being in sync in unison,
understanding what these players can provide if they get the opportunity,
and then having the courage to put them on the field.
So many guys with draft players, but then as they
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get down the stretch, they refuse to play those young players.
But we're seeing the teams that are good and sustain
the success they play their young players. They're unafraid to
play them, and they live through some of the growing
pains that exist because man, it is so rewarding on
the other side that they do come through.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
We always get asked red real quick about hey, what's
a good draft, and I always say, man, three, if
you get three starters out of the draft, that's a
heck of draft. If you get or phenomenal. You can
look at the last two drafts for the Chargers and
if we were just list you know, Vidal and Hampton
is kind of co starters going forward, which they're gonna
they're gonna share that position. You could you could easily
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look at this and say they've got ten starters in
the last two drafts.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Ten wow. Wow. Yeah, that's a great one. That's how
you flip.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
That's how you flip it. Man.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And those guys, you know, those guys are so cheap.
You got ten cheap starters. For the next couple of years,
they're gonna be able to spend money in free agency. Man.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
You know, I was also looking just to kind of
round the league today as we were getting ready for
this episode, and Bucky obviously, you know, the Jaguars record
stands out in a big way ten and four here.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
So as you were read and you.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Don't know the rule, you don't know the rule nationally,
you're not allowed to talk about the Jags having this
unbelievable strugg Sorry forgot about that. Yeah, it's unwritten. It's
just unwritten. Yeah, people just don't. You can't really stare at.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Them under the sun. Yeah what you're talking about?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Yeah, yeah, you just got there.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I just I just.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Go one again. We got that, Yeah, yeah, we got me.
I mean massive performance from from Trevor Lawrence. But so
I was like, all right, let me go back and
see what their rookies are up to. And obviously Travis
Hunter being down for much of the season now is
has been tough, you know, as as a big piece
of that draft class, with spending the resources to go
up and get him and then just not getting him
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for the majority of the season.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
But you know who's played the.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Most snaps out of that rookie class, Danny Strigo and undrafted.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Let me take he's got three sacks.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
The dudes played over two hundred snaps on defense, like
uh okay.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
And and here's what here's what I would tell you.
And we we live in l A. So you hear
a lot about the rams and opportunities and those things.
And DJ, you lived it before in Baltimore, like hey man,
five hundred dollars in an opportunity Like Strigo just came
and just worked his tail off. And look, it's too
typical to talk about like, oh man, what a high
motive guy. But I'm gonna tell you he's laid off
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the ball at times, but the effort makes up for
so many things. And DJ, if you watch him enough
on tape, like he's late. He's like a half a
beat plate off the thing. He's not snapkn anticipation is
just reaction. But his energy, his effort, and his toughness
because he's played through some injuries that have sidellined other
guys that you're like, man, this dude is tough and
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he's about it. And he just took a small role
and kept expanding it because the more he played, the
better the more production he provided those limited windows.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Yeah, so here you go.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I remember Danny Striga was a late add to the
Senior Bowl, like very late at like he came in
on Thursday and maybe one practice before the game.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
And so I was texting with PJ.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Fleck on that Friday, just like, you know, because I'd
seen him a couple of times in the work for
Big Ten Network and head Minnesota. And main reason why
we recruited him wrestling background out, a wrestling athletic enough
to play linebacker, versatility, good blit uh.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
And you you will not be able to pull that
dude off the field, was what he said.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I mean, like, so the effort, the motors kind of
kind of stand up, you know, stand out on that
one too. But I saw that ray On Lanes played
a bunch to the safety out of Navy, who we've
seen in the special.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Team as well.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Yeah, special team.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah, special teams banded like that was a huge from
time to time. And Tuden was going to play an
even bigger role because he and Travis Gien splitting carries
until he had the injury that will keep him out
for the next few weeks. But I mean, look the
thing that I've learned and just watching this team grow
and we've seen it, you have to create lanes for
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your young opportunity, your young players to get on the field.
So don't sign the veteran just because the coaches are nervous.
You have to force them to play the young guys
and develop them because that's the only way they get better.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Well, the other thing I would say is when you're
putting together a coaching staff, sometimes you can find well,
you can find teachers that are older that are good.
You can find teachers that are young that maybe a
little more relatable and current and can communicate. At the
end of the day, just go get teachers. Go out
and get coaches that know how to teach. Because you're
seeing that the teams with teachers Buck. Not only can
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they get young guys on the field, they just keep
getting better better.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Man.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Well that's the thing. And look, we talked about it
and we didn't talk about a little bit about Chicago's class.
But man, when I look at the Bears, what they
are now compared to what they started, like, they are
a really good football team. And Dennis Allen, look, I
know it didn't go his way as a head coach
multiple times, but man, their defense, like watching them fly
around and see ball, get ball and all the other
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stuff that they're able to do. Yeah, Like, if you
get guys that understand how to develop talent, whether it's
young where there's guys that have played subpart performances elsewhere,
teachers are everything. It is a teachers game for sure,
and no doubt. Oh look this has been a fun one.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Man.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
We'll see if we can run Red down here on
the rookie draft. The smile on his face if you're
listening to us right now, Goti, there's a confident air
about him right now. You need a big bounce back
week from him after bucking that after this week, all.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Right, that's gonna do it for us today.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
We will catch it tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Right here. Fun with the sticks h
And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
What's up, everybody?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky and Rhett with
you on a Rookie episode. I guess we could call
these each and every week. And I gotta be honest,
my enthusiasm has jumped up a NOTx this week because Rhett,
who's just had a strangleholding the top spot. Nothing nothing
changed there but Bucky representing the team here the home
(00:28):
is making a push.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
With an unbelievable week clean sweek, uh clean sweep all
the way across the board for buck, he goes Henderson,
went off Travion, then he gets a book a little
Hio State Ohio State magic there with those two and
then Harld Fannon Junior. So Bucky got nine points I
am easily won for me from Colson Lovelin.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Htt got two.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
But you look up now and now it's it's it's
it's tight and snug up a little bit here. Rhet's
got sixty six. Bucks got fifty eight. He passed me.
I've got fifty six, so I'm ten behind the leaders here.
But we are coming down the home stretch here for
the rookies I normally try and get to some other
topics first, but I don't want to miss around.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I gotta write here.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
I got to it.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, I just feel like I feel like we can
see him a little bit now, like it would gotten
to the point where HTT was getting a little out
of vision, and now you know the father is.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
A little distracted.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Although full disclosure, before we started the episode, Rett's giving
us all the statistical rundown on the last month for rookies,
which didn't make me feel great preparation.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Hilarious.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I just look, I mean, are we are we going
to do anything?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Are you doing anything?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
How you do everything?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
So I get thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you,
coach thanks coach buck right there.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Just now, I uh, we are done with bias, correct,
I'm not yeah, yeah, yeah, We're long. I'm gonna be
yeah yeah yeah, making sure I'm going Travon Henderson with
the first pick. Let's not mess around here.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Ravens on a Sunday night in Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yea and three, he can pop it in three, give
him three carries, three touches. He can do all his damage.
Right there, Bucky, you are up next, Buddy.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, and then I got back to Max.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah, Travian Henderson is going. This is tough because I'm
looking at one game and I'm looking at the Buccaneers
versus the Panthers to figure out which receiver I want,
and I'm trying to who's going to throw it the most.
Give me t Mac this week, mc millan Mac.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, Okay, So I've got my pick of the litter
with the tight ends and Harold Fannin has been going
off as of late. The Browns are at home against
the Bills. I just think target share. I just don't
know this this Philip, this Phillip trust Tyler Warren. Yet
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you know it didn't really feel like it this last
week as much the Colts.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Colts have the Niners on Monday Night.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I'm gonna go Harold Fannin and get the tight end
done right there with with that pick and then with
my next pick with the running backs. This is a
tricky one because I feel like I have a phenomenal
matchup if I want to go Woody Marx Texans taken
on the Raiders at home.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Raiders are in trouble, not a good outfit, not a
not a great team.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
There and apparently Woody was injured, but said Dimigo Ryan
said he could have gone back in. So at that point,
I'm gonna go Woody Marks. Give me Woody Marks for
the Houston Texans. So I got Fannin and Marx.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
All right, that's so it comes back my way, right yep? Well,
tight end big gang like big game, big matchups. This
is personal Windy City matchup against the Packers. Ben Johnson
has to get back at his buddy who we candshake.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Lovelin Okay, mm hmm, got Colston. This is crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Tyler Warren is not even the first and I'm in
the first two picks.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I watched the game, yeah, I watched it in It's
not gonna really get there. I go get you one.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Man, Yeah, because I'm I think I gotta go a
little Homer pick here. I'm gonna go I'm gonna go Gadston.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Okay. So we're leaving Tyler Warren out of.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
The next it's not getting picked this week, Okay, I
gotta get with the wide out.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I'm gonna go with a BUCA.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, So that leaves me with the wide outs here, Dang,
I mean, do I double up on Texans. Here do
I go back to Sarah and Higgins? Well, dare I uh.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Luther Burden, Luthor Burden has been cooking man.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Yeah, he didn't get banged up. He get banged up.
I felt like, I know, I think we're okay on that.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
You know, he's kind of been slowly coming on a
little bit too, but just not not enough. As Pat
Bryant with the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Let's step out on a limb.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Here.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
You put that line in the water and pulled.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, real quick, real quick, real quick.
I think bus pick it is.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yes, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Sorry, okay, buck don't matter.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I got I got a running back, so it doesn't matter.
So I'm gonna take a more in Hampton.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Oh okay, yeah, sure, there you go. Yeah, it didn't
matter all right.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
By the way, Gavin did usually actually wrote out rets
cheating in the chat right there.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Pollution.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, just trying to Yeah, I mean it like it
obviously didn't matter, all right.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
I think I think Dunesday is like getting a little
bit healthier here target. You don't know if he's going
to go.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
There was an article this morning I read that said
they might try and you know, hold him time with
him and get him ready for the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
So dang.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Boy, jimriy DK just still sitting up there, just not
I just don't feel great about it. Six point two
yards per catch, not doing it, not doing it.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I'm going to tell you that you're crazy for not
picking a player. Once this is all done, Okay, let me.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Make sure I'm not missing anything here.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Mm hmm Okay, well you we're all crazy then, I
guess right, because you guys have passed them.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
What am I missing? What am I missing?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
See?
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Now you're screwing with me here.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Well you come and make a decision. We got a
time you know they lowered it to eight minutes now
in the yeah, real prap.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Okay, give give me we're doubling. Give me Jayden and Higgins.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Okay the last two weeks, uh, Luther Burden six for
sixty seven or no, sorry, four for sixty seven, six
for eighty four. And I just told you roma Duonday
is a good chance he's not playing, and you've got
no ome you're going to score points.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
He's been, he's been Caleb's guy.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Man, It's true, all right, going, do I get my
pick back? No?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
You already made your pick, Higgins.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
I'm good. I'm doubling up on Texans.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Okay, Yeah, No, I think no Warren and no Burden
getting picked was probably will surprise him. Yeah, but Gatston
had a nice game last week, and I think the
Cowboys defense like a little vulnerable just here this weekend.
So yeah, that's that's not a bad all right, Let's
get to our hot or not segment.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Guys. Oh, before we do that.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
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Bill's offensive coordinator Joe Brady.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Before we get to what he's.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Accomplished with this group, Buck, do you like Joe Brady
as a hot head coaching candidate in this cycle?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I certainly understand why he is hot head coach candidate,
and I think he's gonna get a job. He's gonna
have his pickup jobs. What they've been able to do
with the Buffalo Bills. As soon as you pour dirt
on them and think that they are done, they find
a way to re emerge. And I think this performance
that he had last week kind of embodies what the
Buffalo Bills are. They're down by a ton early, find
a way to get to it late. Josh Allen, the
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full Josh Allen experience is in effect, but they still
are able to run the football with games cook. The
one thing that Joe Brady has done, and I would
say in his evolution from his first time as an OC,
the running game. He has mastered the running game and
the bigs and heavies and creating different matchups while also
taking advantage of his quarterback strengths. Maskall play call Master,
(09:16):
will play call the play design.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Yeah. Man.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
It's the thing is, though Josh Allen doesn't exist on
the teams in which he is going to go trying
to be a head coach.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
I mean that, dude.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I just get you know, watching that game against the Patriots. Yeah,
you know, like all right, seven to nothing, fourteen nothing,
twenty one nothing. I just didn't feel like at any
point in time that they were out of the game,
just you know, because of what we've seen with Josh Allen.
It's kind of like that Mahomes feeling, you know, back
in the in the heyday there with the Chiefs. But
the thing I'll say is, you know, in the second half,
it felt like they found a way to be more
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on schedule. Every one of their five straight touchdowns were
scored inside the red zone, right, So these were extended drives.
These were drives that were getting down there. And you
know what the spark was. The spark was the Ray
Davis kickoff return at the end of the first half.
Then they get the face mask on top of it,
they get a short field, they go down and score
at the end of the first half, get on the board,
and then they went for their next four possessions, they
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got touchdowns.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
But look at this.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Look at the.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
First the third down, the third down conversions in this game,
the yarditch. Okay, third and three, they had a third
and three, third and three, third and seven, third and one,
They had a fourth and three that they ended up converting,
and then they had another third and two. I mean,
they were on schedule in this game in the second half,
whereas in the first half they couldn't stay on the field.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
The play disparity was so big, and then they absolutely
dominated every total yards, total plays, certainly with run plays
and James Cook majority of his yards coming in the
second half. I just feel like they were more of
themselves and they just executed better. And I think, you know,
one of those picks that we talk about a lot,
you know, they're kind of fun to talk about. The
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Jackson Hawes pick, I think was such a big deal
for them, allowed them to do so much, and then
to have Knox and kincad on the field at the
same time. Josh Allen is able to spread the ball around,
and that's when they're at their best. When you know
when their lack of an alpha on the edge doesn't
show up, is when he can spread that thing around
all those different targets and they're all picking up first
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downs and staying on schedule there.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
I thought that was a big piece of their effort
in the second half.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I think he's got a compelling case to make in
an interview that and obviously these are unbelievable quarterbacks, probably
both Hall of famers. But when you can say, hey,
Lsu Joe Burrow inside in a dome wide outs, we're
five out, we are empty we are out the gate,
everybody out in the route, and let's dice them up. Now,
he saw in Buffalo a little bit of that a
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few years back. Now they're a twelve thirteen personnel team,
run of the ball as well as anybody playing outdoors
in weather like He's got a very physical team. So
you can go into that interview and say what offense
do I run? Will you tell me who my players are,
and I'll tell you what offense I'm going to run
because I can. I can mold this thing around the
personnel that we have, Buck, And how many times have
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you seen guys try and recreate the same thing in
a new spot without the same personnel.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
It doesn't work, Yeah, it doesn't work. In it to
me speaks to the play call it in the adaptability
being able to be flexible in terms of, hey, I'm
going to adapt to the personnel that I have. This
is what's best for this team compared to what was
best for my last team. And you're right. The Buffalo
Bills are interesting because they did go from being kind
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of an out and we go throw it all over
the yard to a more controlled offense with James Cook
playing a big part of it is. I'm gonna say this,
I think Joe Brady's doing such a great job because
when you look at their team, particularly on the offense,
to me, there's only two maybe three blue chip dudes
if you talk about Josh Allen, James Cook, and then
maybe Deonds if you want to throw him in that category. Yeah,
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they're doing it with I don't want to say regular
Joe's out there, but they're not doing it with superstars.
So to me, that's where the schematics matter more than
some of these other teams that can just out talent.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, if there was ever a doubt whether Josh Allen
was a truck or trailer, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Think there was one.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
But yeah, I mean this is a great example of
a quarterback helping elevate guys too.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
And I think, you know, a big part of that
is the is.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
You know, the way in which Joe Brady allows him
that opportunity to go out there and spread that ball
around and find different ways to get all those different
targets involved.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Well, they do a good job protecting the quarterback, getting
the ball out quick, and they run the ball. A
couple of stats gab threw in here into the end
of the document. It's interesting when you look at this team,
number three scoring offense and total offense number one, rushing
yards per game, number two in EPA added per rush,
number four EPA per pass. They allow the fifth fewest
pressures in the league. James Cook has been hit by
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a line of scrimmage on just thirty two point nine
percent of his carries. That's the second lowest mark amongst
running backs. And the tight ends of average ten point
three yards per target this season, the most among all
tired units. So that's that tells you the story. You
can't be more efficient and you can't do a better
job of utilizing the strength of your team buck than
the job that Joe Brady and Josh Allen have done together.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
There, No, they do a terrific job. And if they
can just have one of their perimeter playmakers emerge as
a consistent for us as a number one, not that
he has to be a high end, top ten receiver,
but someone that each and every week you can count
on to give you maybe seventy five eighty yards on
perimeter win they're one on one matchups. Man, this offense
can go to another level. Even though we and we
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wax poetically about what their numbers and efficiency numbers are.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
You know, it's crazy question.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
In the run game, I mean the Bills ran it
twenty six times in the second half. Patriots ran it
three times. Yeah, Now one of them was that was
an explosive touchdowns, right, yeah, look at that. But dang
that is that is a disparity if I've ever seen one.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
So that's their formula.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, not ideal on the Patriots side of things of
finishing that ball game. That was this week's Hot or
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Speaker 4 (15:01):
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Free atwisabi dot com. We're gonn take a break and
move right back after this. All right, guys, I want
to hit you on this topic on some rookie classes
in the job that they've done. I was looking at
some of these teams that are having success this year,
and man, they're getting some big time impact from their rookies.
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You know, we're just talking about New England and a
tough loss that they just had, but that is a
rookie class that has been outstanding. I'll give you I'll
give you three options here and rhet you can lead
us off. Buck, you go next, and I'll clean it up.
But if you're just looking at teams right now, some
playoff teams, and you look at New England the job
that their rookie class has done. You look at Seattle
the rookies that they have and the job that they've done,
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and I'll mention the Chargers with the job that those
rookies have done. What stands out to you the most?
Give me those three AGAs Chargers, New England, Seattle and
the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, I think New England to me, I mean, is
the one that really stands out the most. You know, obviously,
now that Trevon Henderson, you know, is really rolling. I
think that's that has obviously been such a key piece.
And then the fact that you were able to remake
your offensive line and the entire left side.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Of it with two rookies, I think that's pretty rare.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I mean, obviously, you draft the guy up in the
top five, you're kind of expecting that dude to start
for you on the offensive line, But then to get
Jared Wilson in the third and have him jump in
there as a starting left guard, and I know, both
of them kind of been banged up a little bit
and in and out of the lineup now. But to
be able to count on that and to set that
up for your second year quarterback, that's so big. And
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then you know, they they missed on receivers the year before, right,
but it hasn't really hurt him that much because they've
done a nice job of kind of supplementing that with
some guys that were kind of left for dead.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Kishan Boutie. I don't think anybody count on him being a.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Guy, you know this year, and they've kind of gone
back and kind of redeveloped some other guys from previous classes.
So I would say that's kind of a bonus into
this year's class because I don't think we've seen much
of you Kayshawan.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Throughout you know, his his career up until this year.
So I think I think.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
That's really really been a huge piece. And then look,
the free agent acquisitions on the defensive side of the
ball were big, you know as well. So I think
you know, Elliott and Mike and that whole crew up
there have done just a really good job of you know,
the homegrown development and then really nice kind of judicious. Uh,
you know picks into free agency. Now, look, they had
to pay big money for him, certainly, and they had
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money to spend, but they were they didn't really whiff,
which I think is obviously a big piece of free agency.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah. And when I think about those three things, uh,
the Seattle Seahawks comes to mind. And the reason it
comes to mind is like, look, this was a new
error that they kicked off. You know, when b Carroll left,
it was the first time that Josh Snyder had full
control of the board and being able to do it
to him and Mike McDonald putting their vision together. And
then this year, you look, Gray is able to being
exact as advertised. They can run the football when they
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want to run it. They've been able to protect saim donald.
They created explosive plays while being able to control roll
of the game on offense. And then Nick Mammy Warry
like just being able to find someone like I know
they don't like to shop in the same store. Sometimes
you see a Cam chance like, oh, I want to
look clone, but man, he's as close to Cam as
you can find in terms of a big safety that
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can come down in the box and do some of
those things watching them up close, because when they came
to Jacksonville and just watching the size and the speed
and the just overall the explosiveness of that roster. They've
done a good job. But those two rickeys in particular,
they have stepped up immediately and given big contributions.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah, and they've been Horton when he's been out there.
He's made some plays for him early in the season,
for sure. Yes, Yeah, did some nice things for him.
It's been a good class there from Seattle Royo kind
of you know, play here or there. They just got
Riley Mills back. He had his first game this last week.
He got seven snaps and showed a little penetration there.
So I think he's got a chance to really help
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him coming down the home stretch. But those are two
excellent ones now. And I know what some people are thinking,
what about the Cleveland Browns. We're just talking playoff teams here.
Cleveland's had an unbelievable class. Those guys have all done
a really nice job. Some other teams as well. H
The other team, I'll get to the Chargers in just
a second. That that deserves mentioned here is the Bears.
With that With that Bears class playing big, big roles.
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When you look at what they did, Colson Lovelin's been awesome,
Luther Burd's really come on, Trapillo has been able to
get out there. You've seen my young guy who's done
a really nice job forming that one two punch. So
Chicago's got a lot out of their rookie class. But
when I you know the reason, I want to mention
those teams and we'll get to the Chargers here. I'm
watching that game call in that game last week, and
(19:37):
I'm watching Omar and Hampton popper run. I'm watching Trey
Harris make a big play before the half to kind of,
you know, save their game and potentially their season. Jamari
Caldwell has been playing starter snaps at defensive tackle. KeAndre
Lambert Smith has the kickoff return that puts some in
position to get those points. He's you know, had an
opportunity to get some some ops here. Rondy Gatson has
(19:58):
been awesome as a tight with the fifth round, one
hundred and sixty fifth overall pick.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
RJ.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Mickens has got his hands on balls as some interceptions
this year. It's kind of that third safety that has
a lot of impact. Man from one draft class on
a team that's got a chance to clinch a playoff
spot here this week.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
I mean, look, it's so good. It's funny. You talked
about RJ. Mickens and some of the down the line
guys that have made contributions. I think that is the
front office and the coaching staff being in sync in unison,
understanding what these players can provide if they get the opportunity,
and then having the courage to put them on the field.
So many guys with draft players, but then as they
(20:36):
get down the stretch, they refuse to play those young players.
But we're seeing the teams that are good and sustain
the success they play their young players. They're unafraid to
play them, and they live through some of the growing
pains that exist because man, it is so rewarding on
the other side that they do come through.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
We always get asked red real quick about hey, what's
a good draft, and I always say, man, three, if
you get three starters out of the draft, that's a
heck of draft. If you get or phenomenal. You can
look at the last two drafts for the Chargers and
if we were just list you know, Vidal and Hampton
is kind of co starters going forward, which they're gonna
they're gonna share that position. You could you could easily
(21:13):
look at this and say they've got ten starters in
the last two drafts.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Ten wow. Wow. Yeah, that's a great one. That's how
you flip.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
That's how you flip it. Man.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And those guys, you know, those guys are so cheap.
You got ten cheap starters. For the next couple of years,
they're gonna be able to spend money in free agency. Man.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
You know, I was also looking just to kind of
round the league today as we were getting ready for
this episode, and Bucky obviously, you know, the Jaguars record
stands out in a big way ten and four here.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
So as you were read and you.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Don't know the rule, you don't know the rule nationally,
you're not allowed to talk about the Jags having this
unbelievable strugg Sorry forgot about that. Yeah, it's unwritten. It's
just unwritten. Yeah, people just don't. You can't really stare at.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Them under the sun. Yeah what you're talking about?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Yeah, yeah, you just got there.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I just I just.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Go one again. We got that, Yeah, yeah, we got me.
I mean massive performance from from Trevor Lawrence. But so
I was like, all right, let me go back and
see what their rookies are up to. And obviously Travis
Hunter being down for much of the season now is
has been tough, you know, as as a big piece
of that draft class, with spending the resources to go
up and get him and then just not getting him
(22:24):
for the majority of the season.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
But you know who's played the.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Most snaps out of that rookie class, Danny Strigo and undrafted.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Let me take he's got three sacks.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
The dudes played over two hundred snaps on defense, like
uh okay.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
And and here's what here's what I would tell you.
And we we live in l A. So you hear
a lot about the rams and opportunities and those things.
And DJ, you lived it before in Baltimore, like hey man,
five hundred dollars in an opportunity Like Strigo just came
and just worked his tail off. And look, it's too
typical to talk about like, oh man, what a high
motive guy. But I'm gonna tell you he's laid off
(23:01):
the ball at times, but the effort makes up for
so many things. And DJ, if you watch him enough
on tape, like he's late. He's like a half a
beat plate off the thing. He's not snapkn anticipation is
just reaction. But his energy, his effort, and his toughness
because he's played through some injuries that have sidellined other
guys that you're like, man, this dude is tough and
(23:22):
he's about it. And he just took a small role
and kept expanding it because the more he played, the
better the more production he provided those limited windows.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Yeah, so here you go.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I remember Danny Striga was a late add to the
Senior Bowl, like very late at like he came in
on Thursday and maybe one practice before the game.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
And so I was texting with PJ.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Fleck on that Friday, just like, you know, because I'd
seen him a couple of times in the work for
Big Ten Network and head Minnesota. And main reason why
we recruited him wrestling background out, a wrestling athletic enough
to play linebacker, versatility, good blit uh.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
And you you will not be able to pull that
dude off the field, was what he said.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I mean, like, so the effort, the motors kind of
kind of stand up, you know, stand out on that
one too. But I saw that ray On Lanes played
a bunch to the safety out of Navy, who we've
seen in the special.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Team as well.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Yeah, special team.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah, special teams banded like that was a huge from
time to time. And Tuden was going to play an
even bigger role because he and Travis Gien splitting carries
until he had the injury that will keep him out
for the next few weeks. But I mean, look the
thing that I've learned and just watching this team grow
and we've seen it, you have to create lanes for
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your young opportunity, your young players to get on the field.
So don't sign the veteran just because the coaches are nervous.
You have to force them to play the young guys
and develop them because that's the only way they get better.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Well, the other thing I would say is when you're
putting together a coaching staff, sometimes you can find well,
you can find teachers that are older that are good.
You can find teachers that are young that maybe a
little more relatable and current and can communicate. At the
end of the day, just go get teachers. Go out
and get coaches that know how to teach. Because you're
seeing that the teams with teachers Buck. Not only can
(25:11):
they get young guys on the field, they just keep
getting better better.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Man.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Well that's the thing. And look, we talked about it
and we didn't talk about a little bit about Chicago's class.
But man, when I look at the Bears, what they
are now compared to what they started, like, they are
a really good football team. And Dennis Allen, look, I
know it didn't go his way as a head coach
multiple times, but man, their defense, like watching them fly
around and see ball, get ball and all the other
(25:37):
stuff that they're able to do. Yeah, Like, if you
get guys that understand how to develop talent, whether it's
young where there's guys that have played subpart performances elsewhere,
teachers are everything. It is a teachers game for sure,
and no doubt. Oh look this has been a fun one.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Man.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
We'll see if we can run Red down here on
the rookie draft. The smile on his face if you're
listening to us right now, Goti, there's a confident air
about him right now. You need a big bounce back
week from him after bucking that after this week, all.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Right, that's gonna do it for us today.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
We will catch it tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Right here. Fun with the sticks h
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