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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome back to Move the Sticks DJ here. This is
a very special episode where we are going to reveal
the roster of the twenty twenty six Panini Senior Bowl.
We're gonna have a chance to break down the prospects
to watch during the week of practice and explain why
this week and mobile has a potential to change careers.
We'll be back with another episode later in the week
(00:27):
to preview the divisional round of the playoffs as we
march towards the Super Bowl in Santa Clara.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Well, it is our favorite time of the year. NFL
postseason is heating up and we are cramming like crazy
to get to know all of the players that are
getting ready for the twenty twenty six Panini Senior Bowl.
He already, Welcome to another episode of Move the Sticks.
Red Lewis and our former NFL scounce lead Draft dannels
Daniel Jeremiah Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Ready to roll.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
How's your cram session going. Did you're gonna be ready
for this thing in just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, not a lot of sleep, but it's exciting, man.
I'm excited to see these guys the last time in
pads playing real football as we get into the spring
and all the workouts, and I've been going to this
thing since two thousand and three. I find tremendous value
in it. But Bucky, I think you have a little
more personal experience with this game.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Yeah, No, I like going back to nineteen ninety four.
I have an opportunity to play in the game. Just
understanding the opportunity all these young people will have to
show improve in front of a legion of scouts and
executives that would make some decisions based on how these
guys performed throughout the week.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Seingior bull veteran right there, Bucky Brooks, ready to give
you some insight on all these players that we are
going to talk about and see throughout the week in Mobile.
Let's get to the week in Mobile because it is
one of the best weeks and one of the biggest
weeks over the course of the path to the draft.
And all week long, you're gonna have good morning football
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getting you set for the day. Insiders will come at
you at two pm. You'll get live team practices each day.
National teams get to be a two thirty the American
team at five, and in between you'll get the insiders
there at four thirty. So so much fun to come here.
And then how about game Day, We got you covered.
NFL Game Day Kickoff, will get your set for the
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seventy seventh Panini Senior Bowl. And then we kick things
off right at two thirty Eastern time, NFL Game Day Final.
We'll wrap things up at five thirty Eastern time. Well,
in the words of the great Heisman Trophy winner Indiana
Hoosier and philosopher Fernando Mendoza, Stoics taught us about delayed
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gratification and the new even though it's not really new anymore.
Executive Director of the Senior Bowl, Drew Fabianich knows that feeling. Well,
he's been a mobile for like eight months and just
now getting to the biggest week of the year. Drew,
welcome you ready for this thing?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
My friend?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I am more than ready, trust me. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I kind of felt like that was I mean, like,
this is this is what it's all about, though, Like
you're seeing eight months of works hard to get come
to life on paper.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well, the thing is, I mean I walked into a
great situation because you know, Jimtt set us up just
like an NFL scouting department, and I'm sure Phil Savage
did the same thing before. You know, I made a
few additions, you know, in house, and you know, actually,
you know, some of the scouts I had to replace
on the road because we've got ten evaluators that are
that are on the road living in different parts of
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the country. We got four in house that evaluate, including me,
So we got fourteen people that are evaluating tay, which
is a good sized department. And I can't tell you
how grateful I am for the in house staff, because
there's so much that goes into this game that nobody
sees that they take care of. And I can't tell
you how thankful I am for that, because they've made
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my life a heck of a lot easier. Now they
have made me the unofficial Marimobile, and I didn't know
that it was going to happen when I took the job.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, you know, well, yeah, we were joking around earlier.
I think he Drew's going to get up into a
set with Muscatine Bloodline, who will be headlining the concert
this year night before the Senior Bowl, which is awesome,
and the week of Mobile is fantastic. And look, you've
done some serious work putting this roster together and we
got our first name to reveal here, and it is
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one of the quarterbacks that we'll be throwing it around
in Mobile and one of the best in the country
this year, Sawyer Robertson. By the way, speaking of Fernando Mendoza,
Sawyer is the one who led FBS with fifty nine
passing touchdowns over the last two years to ahead of
Fernando Mendoze in Carson Beck as they entered the National
championship game. So Sawyer's done a phenomenal job there Baylor
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after transferring in form Mississippi State. And it's our pleasure
to welcome Sawyer to the program here on our move
the Sticks roster reveal shows Sawyer.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Welcome, our friend. Glad to have you with us.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Thank you for having me. It's an honor.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
I'm looking forward to get a chance to see you
spend this thing. Man.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I cannot wait to get out there, watch you compete.
What went in the decision for you to go enter
into this competition, which it really is a competition As
we head towards the draft.
Speaker 8 (05:02):
I mean, obviously just growing up kind of paying attention
to the game and stuff and seeing how it propels
some prospects careers.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
And so whenever I got.
Speaker 8 (05:11):
The invite, I remember where I was and just the
excitement that that I had. Whenever I got the invite,
I remember I immediately called my dad and told him about it,
and it was kind of a no brainer. You know,
any anytime I get the opportunity to compete, I'm gonna
do it.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
And so I was fired up, and I'm ready to
get down there.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
You know, when I met the Sawyer down at the
Manny Academy, you know when I'm gonna introduce myself, and
I could tell you know, he was one of those
cues that did his research. He said, he said, I
know who you are. You're like, I'd only been there
like a month. Tell me, tell me how important this
game is to you.
Speaker 8 (05:49):
Oh, I mean it's huge, like I was saying earlier,
just paying attention over over the years, seeing you know,
guys like bow Nig, Josh Allen, those guys that that
played in this game, and just how it can propel
their careers and and just it's an opportunity to compete
in front of scouts GMS, a bunch of important people,
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but also just not making it bigger than what it is.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
At the end of the day, it's still just football.
Speaker 8 (06:14):
I'm still playing out there with a bunch of bunch
of guys that I'm going to get to get to
know and be on the same team with. And so
I'm excited about that, the relationships that I'm going to
get to build there and just have the opportunity to compete,
and so I'm really excited about it. It's a prestigious
event and and I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Obviously, your time at Baylor has seen you know, your
production sore. I mentioned, you know, the touchdown passes, that's
fifty nine of the course of the last couple of years.
But you came from Mississippi State where you got a
chance to learn, you know from one of the greatest
rip Mike Leach.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Wondering if you.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Had any good Mike Leach stories or lessons learned from
your time there.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Oh, man, I have a ton. I've been on.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
I've been on a couple of podcasts before where I
uh where I go and tell a bunch of a
bunch of stories, some of them I have to keep
to myself. And are only like, uh, those are only
stories that I tell in person.
Speaker 7 (07:03):
To people, not not on podcasts or anything.
Speaker 8 (07:05):
But just so many great lessons that he taught me.
I think the biggest one that I learned from him
was to just be authentically yourself, you know, no matter
no matter what people you're around or anything like that.
I can honestly say that about Coach Leach. He didn't
care what anybody else thought about him. He had his
system and he was gonna do it no matter what,
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and if you either got in line or you you
got the heck out of the way. And so just
seeing that, I think that's important for a quarterback, right
because as a quarterback, you're going to face some adversity,
the highs of the highs and lows.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Throughout the course of a season, throughout the course of
the career.
Speaker 8 (07:40):
But preparing the same way each and every game, each
and every week, and just being yourself, people people notice that.
And so I think when you're when you're an authentic
person like Coach Leach was, it goes a long way.
And so I'm really appreciative of him for kind of
showing me that.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Yeah, so he sounds like you had great advice from
Mike Leach and on the way. But I want to
know have you reached out to anybody who's played in
this game before to give the lay of the land
in terms of how the best prepare for the Senior
Bowl and put on your I guess, your best showing
in front of a bunch of scouts.
Speaker 9 (08:12):
I haven't.
Speaker 8 (08:13):
I haven't talked to anybody yet. That is uh, that's
something there. I have somebody in mind whom I'm probably
gonna reach out to, But other than that, it's just
been it's just been connections that I have that haven't
played in the game where it's like, how can I
best prepare myself, you know, whether it's getting the playbook early,
what I need to know going into the interview process,
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that kind of stuff. But I haven't talked to anybody
who's played in the game quite yet, and so hopefully,
hopefully I'll do that within the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
You'll be ready for it, no doubt, man, Sawyer. We
appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (08:44):
Man.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
We look forward to seeing you down in Mobile. Thanks
for joining us today.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
I move the sticks absolutely, Thank you, guys.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Thanks Sawyer.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Spring that sword man all right here?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
We go, let's get to the rest of the quarterback
group that's going to be down in Mobile. So Sawyer
will be there with the national team along with the
high He's been runner up in a Vanderbilt school record
holder for passing yards and touchdowns at a single season.
Diego Pavia, the Man, the myth, the legend. Also Rand
Brovers sixteen hundred yards and eighteen touchdowns the past two seasons.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Drew.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Let's talk a little bit about this quarterback class here,
and one of these quarterbacks actually has some NFL prep
in his bloodlines, doesn't he?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, he does. And you know, I was lucky enough
to meet Garrett Nsmayer when he was fifteen years old.
He was back in the back of our facility at
the Star going through seven on seven tournament back there,
so I got to watch him spending when he was pretty,
you know, pretty young, you know. And the thing about
him is he's he's a prototype drop back passer. The thing,
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the thing I'm impressed most about is he runs a
line of scrimmage. There aren't a lot of quarterbacks that
you know, can change protections. I DM Mike understand where
the hots are. He's very smart. His dad, you know
worked with me with the Cowboys. Like I said, I
feel like I've known him for a long long time.
You know, this year he was beat up a little bit.
He was heard and you know the production was down.
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But I would say, I can't forget when I can't
see what I saw the year before. It was like
four thousand yards and twenty four touchdowns. So it's there
and you'll see when he comes down to the senior ball.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, he had a big decision to make going back
to school. Last year, he had an opportunity to come
out into the draft, goes back to LSU and coach
you mentioned. It didn't go the way he wanted, but
a big opportunity for him. This weekend mobile, I'm looking
at Diego Pavia and what he did for this Vanderbilt
program alongside his head coach Clark Lee. When you have
Vanderbilt playing meaningful games and being in the playoff discussion,
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you know you've seen something pretty special. And that's what
Pavia brought in terms of the playmaking ability, making plays
outside of structure with his arm and with his legs.
That's why he got to New York as a Heisman
Trophy finalist. And I think this is a great platform
for him to show his ability to play on time,
to play with instructure, and show he can be that
type of quarterback as well as that elite playmaker we
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saw at Bandy.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Another guy with a ton of experience in the game
is Luke Altmeyer, who transferred up to Illinois and has
been the starting quarterback for Brett Bielam after leaving Ole
miss for the last three seasons, and the experience really shows.
He's a guy that runs meetings throughout the week and
they end up changing pieces of the game plan because
of the stuff that Luke Altmeyer notices during the week.
Brett Bielama, you know, told me he thinks that when
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the coaches really get involved in the process, they're going
to fall in love with Altmeyer and he might have
one hundred and fifty million dollars quarterback in the room
wherever he ends up, but that quarterback is going to
love having Luke Altmeyer there with him, going to be
a real value add to the room, and he might
win your games as a spot starter and then let's
see where his career takes off from there. So excited
to see Luke Altmeyer get down to Mobile.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
You know red as funny.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
You talk about guys taking advantage of opportunities, and I
think this is a great platform for a small school
standout to really show and prove that he's worthy of
being in consideration. And that's Cole Peyton from North Dakotas.
It's a one year starter completed seventy two percent of
his past is at over twenty seven hundred yards, sixteen touchdowns,
four interceptions, and what I like about him is stature,
his size, his big arm. But now it's about can
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you do it against the big boys, elite competition.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
This is the ultimate proving ground.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Having another opportunityca small school standout really blaze his path
at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
And obviously one of the things we love about the
Senior Bowl are the invites and the creative ways in
which we get guys down to mobile And just when
you think you've seen it all, we got a new
one for you and it has to do with our
pal Cole Peyton, and this one hits particularly close to home.
Speaker 10 (12:39):
Jack's been great undercover and like I said, there's going
to be a continued legacy at the Senior Bowl by
NDSU players. Cole is going to do an unbelievable job
down there Mobile, Alabama. Here at the end of January
early February. When he goes out there and gets to
compete in the Senior Bowl. Man, I'm super excited.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Oh way, yeah, Cola, I'm not with the Path of
Draft on the draft crazy Senior Bowl.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
So what do you say, man, you would come down
to Mobile?
Speaker 6 (13:09):
I would absolutely love that opportunity. Wow, I was you
guys got me.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Scout out to Drew and to Jack. Maybe we could
get him into the production staff for Path to the Draft.
That was called a gray Zabel, by the way, was
the Senior Bowl star a year ago and now starring
for the Seattle Seahawks. You think Jonah Coleman, the Washington
Husky running back, is ready for this draft process to begin.
He's already looking forward to the end here and can't
wait to see where he ends up. We know he
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will be in Mobile as well. Clemson's Adam Randall, who
successfully made the switch from receiver to running back at
the end of the twenty twenty four season, made a
permanent in twenty twenty five and joins Travis Zachary, C. J.
Spiller and Travis etn is the only players in Clemson
history with at least seven hundred and fifty rushing and
receiving yards for a career. As you're gonna look at
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the rest of the running back group for this year's
Panini Senior Bowl. The dynamic duo Penn State running backs
are there helping form a talented class. Kterron Allen surge
down the stretch in his senior year, finishing a record
breaking career with over thirteen hundred rushing yards and fifteen touchdowns. Right,
lewis back here with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks and
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the executive director of the Senior Bowl, Drew Fabian.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
It's Drew. He got your eye on in this running
back class.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
You know, I was lucky enough to catch this young
man early. He's a transfer from North Carolina Central, and
you know he jumped up to Virginia and he absolutely
tore North Carolina State out of the frame, like the
second game of the year, and I was like, who
is this kid? Is Jamari Taylor? You know, he's a
really hard tackle, He's got his feet in the ground,
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got great contact balance, and really good yard after the
contact and especially through side tackles. I think He's going
to surprise a lot of people. He's a small I
mean he's a shorter running back, but he is far
from small and rarely every goes down with one tackle.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to watching him as well, Coach,
And I'll give you another one there out of Alabama
and jam Miller where the production doesn't blow you away
on the paper.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
But he's one of those guys. The more you watch him,
the more you appreciate him.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Power packed, He's got a nice running back frame on
runs behind his pads, he can finish runs. I'm looking
forward to seeing him get even more opportunities in the
passing game. You saw him show some flashes there over
the last couple of years. But someone who's played a
lot of ball looking forward to him on this stage
showing everything he can do.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
And I'd love to highlight the other piece of the
Penn State running back due. I mentioned Kate tron Allen
there at the top, but Nick Singleton is an explosive
play waiting to happen. Number getting ready for the Penn
State FIU game that I was doing, and we were
in the fast Friday practice in their indoor facility, and
I remember in back of my head, I was like, okay,
I think Singleton registered like over twenty three miles per
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hour top speed or something that our friend Bruce Feldman listed,
And then was watching the run, you know, like twenty
yard sprints at eighty five percent, right, not full speed,
and it was still hitting above like twenty one and
I was like, boy, this dude can absolutely go. And
then we see him make some game breaking plays throughout
the season. So excited to see what Nick Singleton can
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do when he gets down to Mobile. Will certainly be
a challenge for those defenders, which we will get to
here shortly as well. And with that, let's get to
the wide receivers who could certainly ratchet up the top
speed and we got a great group again. Remember Dion
Burk's had a tremendous college football playoff game against Alabama
on a game that, oh you ended up.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Losing, but he was terrific.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
We'll see Sawyer Robertson's Baylor teammate Josh Cameron as well.
And as we continue looking at the receiver group for
the national team, Colin Lacy is a fun one as
well that folks back in Mobile will remember at a
fantastic twenty twenty three season at South Alabama before finishing
up the last two years at lou and then on
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the American side. How about this group Jacobe Lane from
sc You want to talk about a big, strong, physical
freak of a receiver.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
He could certainly do it.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Now.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
If he can show it day after day after day,
we're gonna see his stock rise because he's got the flash.
See if he can bring the consistency down to mobile. Okay, Bucky,
what are you looking forward to out of this wide
receiver group?
Speaker 6 (17:24):
A little man you called it, Jacobe Lane is the
guy that have my eye on.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
You just don't see big body playmakers like the six four,
two hundred pounds, A guy who has eighteen career touchdowns.
He had twelve of those back in twenty twenty four,
and he does it in acrobatic fashion. You see him
win these fifty to fifty balls down in the red zone.
He's a true red zone weapon. And what you like
about him In twenty twenty five he averaged over fifteen
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yards per catch, which shows that he has some big
play ability. But if you're right on it, he has
to show more consistency being able to do it against
an elite group of corners could certainly boost his stock
in this draft. He's got a huge, huge catch radius.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Another guy with the big catch radius is their rival
Malachi Fields. Their at Notre Dame. And with Fields, I
think there's a little more physicality. You'll see more physicality
of him getting off the line. You'll see a little
more physicality.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
Down the field.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
He reminds me a lot of Jayden Higgins, who we
saw at Iowa State and who we've seen with the
Houston Texans make some big plays for that team as
they continue on there in the postseason, but big playability.
I think this is a great format for him to
really really show all he can do.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Okay, Drew, let's talk a little bit about a receiver
that may be able to really make a name for
himself down a mobile.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Is there one that stands out absolutely?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Ted Hurst at Georgia State, one of our area scouts,
you know, kind of beat to Tom. Tom for him, said,
you know, hey, you need to check out, you know,
the production this guy's putting up because you know, they
didn't win a lot of games, you know, but he
had a lot of production and he's got a really
good speed. He's really good in and out and has
separation quicks too. And he's long and he's you know,
he's leaning. He uses his length. Well. He kind of
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reminds me a little bit of Calvin Ridley, you know,
coming out. I mean, I'm not saying as Calvin Ridley,
but just the same body movements, the same separation quicks.
And I think he's gonna blow up here.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I do oh love that, And look love the fact
that we've got Indiana Hoosiers back in the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Man Elijah Surrat is going to be I mean, come on,
come on, let's go. Let's go, Drew, keep them rolling.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
You know, Sarat is such a fun story, you know,
with zero star recruit the whole thing. You've seen plenty
of guys like that on this Indiana team. But Sarat
is a dude who is as competitive as any. At
the catch point, his contested catches, his back shoulder stuff,
and he can he has got some wiggle now to
create separation, but even when there isn't any, he will
go up and get it with the best of them.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
I can't. I do not envy. Let's put it this way.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I do not envy being a defensive back in one
on ones against Elijah Surat if they call a back
shoulder because it is a catch one hundred percent of
the time. Okay, we're also getting a chance to see
Lewis Bond from BC, and I think like a lot
of these guys, you know, they have their moms to
thank for helping them get to this spot. And I
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love what Drew and the Senior Bowl crew did here
and son accepted with Lewis Fond's mom getting her card
as well.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
We hope to see her down in Mobile.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
So all these whiteouts right have a chance to make
a name for themselves, but few branded their name on
this game the way that Jack Besh and the Besch
family did a year ago. Orth and goal, last shot
as the American team makes their move, Henniget on the move.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Look you got it.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Jack Besh has his Mobile moment.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
That's a walk off.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
Have a week, have a weak young man, and he's emotional.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
He'll get goosebumps with that one. A month after the
death of his brother. Jack was phenomenal in Mobile. So
Harold fannin Junior from Bowling Green was a tough cover
there in Mobile. And do we have some tight ends
And this year's group will be in the paid catch
and touchdowns like Harold Bliss.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
That's nice back.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Here with you on to remove the sticks. Senior Bowl
Roster reveal show.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Now looking at the tight ends we will see in
mobile TCUs DeAndre Rogers caught a pass in just about
every game for the horn Frogs this year. Josh Quavis,
fresh off a college football playoff run with the Alabama
Crimson tie just to amongst a talented group of tight
ends that Drew fabianis, the executive director of the Senior
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Bowl and his staff have put together back here with
DJ and Bucky as well.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Drew, what stands out to you about this tight end group?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You know, I think it's a great mix of you know,
why tight ends and a great group of hfs. Also,
you know, I chose one that I think a complete
why and that's Sam roush Out to Stanford those of
you who didn't get to see a lot of acc ball.
He's good in line, he's good in space, he's a
good receiver. You know, he's not great at any of it,
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but he's good at all of it. And he'll have
a long career as a wide tight end in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing what he does in mobile.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I'm gonna go to n C State and justin Joe Lee,
who's a tight end who began his career at Yukon
and then was very productive there, goes to n C
State continued on with that production. He's a physical guy
and not just you think about the run game and
what he does there, but the toughness in physicality once
he gets the ball in his hands, and someone who
was able to find his way into the paint seven
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times this year for the wolf Pack.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
We've seen tight ends at this.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Event year after year after year really show out and
improve their stock.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
I think he's got a great shout at doing that
this week.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Yeah, DJ, I agree.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
He does have a great opportunity to prove his stock,
as does Wills Cozmrick from Ohio State. And the reason
why this guy has the chance is because he is
a great inline blocker. He is one of those wide
tight ends that you look for to really be able
to seal the edge physicality, toughness, has the athleticism you
want to see him improve and showcase some of his
receiving skills. But man, the former Ohio transfer has blossom
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as a block at Ohio State. Want to see him
showcase those skills when he has his opportunity down at Mobile.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Great skill set for all these tight ends, which we're
of course looking forward to seeing, we'll see them attached
to the offensive lineman a fair amount as well. And
we get to those old linemen right now that we
will see down in Mobile. We'll start with the national
team offensive line Jennings Zunker there from the Joe More
Award winning Iowa offensive line. Alex Harkey doesn't have a
whole lot of rust to knock off after a deep
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playoff run for the Oregon Ducks. He'll also have his
teammate Emmanuel Pregnant in the game as well, played his
final year in Eugene after transferring in from USC. Over
On the American side, how about J. C. Davis from
Illinois forty nine consecutive starts to end his career, the
last twenty five with Illinois. We'll get a chance to
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protect his buddy Luke Altmeyer, one of the quarterbacks in
this year's Senior Bowl one more time. Carver Willis is
an interesting one from Washington as well, an accomplished career
experience career case State to Washington, and the coaches there
in Washington said, he's everything you want in an offensive lineman.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Skilled, how tough.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
He is, smart, he influences the entire unit, not just
the offensive line, but the entire offense. Drew, Let's talk
about an offensive lineman that has caught your eye amongst
this group.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, and again, this was one of the guys I
got to meet at the ACC media day. You know,
Keilan run Ledge calling big Red. You know, when I
looked at the tape last year and when Coach Key
told me, he says, look, he said, you need to
spend some more time on this guy. He said, because
he had a foot injury, had surgery, got an infection,
played on it all year and the tape went very good.
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And you turn on the tape this year and you know,
he's a great gap scheme fit. You know, he's got
good balance, he's got good strength. He kind of reminds
me a little bit of a Dalton Reisner. And I
think this guy will be a plug and play guy
at right guard for a lot of teams, especially with
gas scheme teams.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Well, coach Georgia Tech's produced tough football players. That is
a tough physical program. And if we're thinking of those
types of programs and offensive lineman, I don't know anybody
comes to mind more than Iowa RHTT you mentioned it.
This is an offensive line that won won that More
Award at the end of the year. And Jennings Dunker
is a right tackle. I think he's got a good
shot to kick inside and play guard. He is a physical,
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maller brawler. Did have some balance issues out there on
the edge. One thing I can't wait to see you
watch him on tape no gloves. He's a no gloves guy.
He appreciates Mark Grace, the old school way that they
used to do it back in the day playing first
base for the Cubbies. So to me, Buck, I'm looking
forward to watching him to the gloves show up and
does he end up kicking inside?
Speaker 7 (25:54):
Look forward to seeing that.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
You know.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
It's funny you talk about the story tradition of the
Iowa hawk as, but how about Boston College and the
offensive lineman that the Eagles have produced over the years.
Logan Taylor is someone that is certainly of interest because
of his versatility. You're talking about someone who has lock
snaps at left tackle, right guard, right tackle, wherever you
need him to plug and play. He has that ability.
And because he is a guy who is transferred up
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and went from UVA to then playing at Boston College,
you love him, love the size, love the lift, six
seven three twelve. He is someone that is going to
have an opportunity to move his way up the charts
with a solid performance down in Mobile.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Almost as tall as Ozzie Drappillo, who we saw last
year at the Benini Senior Bowling Now for the Chicago pairs,
let's get back to the reveal talking about the national
edge rushers in this year's class. Sure, Penn State season
didn't quite live up to expectation, but Boyd.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Denied Dennis Sutton sure.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Does a menace off the edge, a closer at the
end of games will be fun to watch in one
on ones, along with Max Lewllen from Iowa. There same
goes for Derek Moore over on the American side, another
stud in the long line of Wolverine into edge rushers
to make an impact in the league and more certainly
has a chance to fill that Bill Drew, what stands
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out to you about this edge rusher class that's going
to try to make life miserable for those offensive linemen
in one on ones, Well.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
There's not just one or two of them, there's about
five or six of them. You know they're going to
make them doing very miserable, including a key Mesador, which
I mean I missed at West Virginia. He had transferred
out and went down to Miami. He's a Canadian. They
did a great job identifying and you know at West
Virginia and he started there when he was young and
then went to Miami. I love the way this guy plays.
I mean, I love the violence. I love the heavy hands.
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He keeps getting better and better as an edge rusher.
He's got a great bend to the top of his
rush and great speed to power. I think he's going
to cost some issues down here now.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, Messador can switch it up to normally think of
like syrup pancakes offensive lineman, but with Canadian background. After
he flatbacks the lineman, I think he just gives him
a little bottle of syrup there to celebrate it. A violent, violent,
physical rusher. Look, there's a lot of guys. This is
the best position group in the game. I think it's
one of the deepest positions in the entire draft. I'm
looking at TJ. Parker from Clemson. I think he's got
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first round ability. He can win with power on the edge.
He can slide inside over a guard and rushes a
three technique and win. One of the only things is
does he have like that big time juice that get
off that burst. Well, the one on ones are made
for that, so we'll get a chance to see him
what he does in that particular scenario. But make no mistake,
he will check your brakes. If you can't anchor, he
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will find that out real quick.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
He certainly will find it out real quick. DJ.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
And we know whenever you go to LSU there is
always someone that is a hidden gym that ends up
playing really well as a pro. Jack Piburn could be
the next guy to kind of feel the bill as
the tiger that can go on to have success as
a pro. And when I look at him, I just
think about motor effort instincts. I think about the toughness
that he displays and even though the production doesn't necessarily
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match the potential man, there is always a place in
the league for someone that's a hardhead and lunch bill.
He is that, and he is going to have a
chance to really show improve that he can rush to pass,
or when he gets plenty of opportunities in those one
and ones at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Also used that description for Illinois edge rusher Gabe Akis,
who led the Big Ten with eleven sacks this year.
The coaching staff there at Illinois absolutely raves about Accus's
work ethic.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
He's two hundred and.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Seventy pounds, but he gets over twenty miles per hour
on the GPS trackers. His defensive coordinator, Aaron Henry, thinks
he could actually get up to two eighty and two
ninety and play interior in some scenarios. Freak athlete, old
school style. The ability matches the work ethic is what
they say about Aaron Henry said. He has to tell him,
like yell at him to get out of the building.
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He's like, man, you've been here for twelve hours and
enough already. But a guy that loves studying the tape
and puts that to good use on the field. Well,
speaking of big impacts in a big frame that folks
at Mobile are gonna love.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
I give you our next acceptance video in the Great
Lee Hunter.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
What'samar huis.
Speaker 9 (30:03):
Hey, It's it's Jack Senior Ball.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
You're you're a large part of why that.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Texas Tech defense has been so good.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
All that band said, man, you're you're officially invited to
the to the seventy seventh.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
Fanini Senior Bowl. Man, we want to have you out
here in Mobile.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
Thank you, Oh my god, thank you.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
All Lee said.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I think.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
I love you more, won't.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
That was awesome?
Speaker 3 (30:33):
I love seeing the mom interactions. You win, Drew, and
see your bowl staff here. By the way, we need
to get Tom Pellisero wearing those classes by the end
of the week. Okay, I mentioned that I Dennis Sutton
boy when he and Zane Durand are lined up on
the same side of the defensive line, watch out. That's
been a lot of fun throughout the course of the
last couple of years there in Penn State and then
on the American side for some of the defensive tackles
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as we get a chance to see what the interior
guys look like on that crew again. Another Michigan Wolf
ring there, Rayshawn Benny. I think you saw what Tim
Keenan can do, especially in that win over Oklahoma in
the College Football Playoff. Alabama Crimson tie defensive tackle will
be among the groups down there, bro, I mean to
get Mobile's own and Lee Hunter down. I mean, this
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is awesome, right, you live for moments like that.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, And this is this is not because he's from
a Mobile. I mean against this guy for two years
when he was in Central Florida. And this guy is
is more than a two gapper, he is more than
an E two. This guy's got some sexy fat man
to him. I mean he got he's got some rush,
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he's got a little bit of twitch, and he runs
well for his size. He really does. So this isn't
because he's from Mobile. He earned this. You know when
we got like six Red Raiders.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Now, oh, you put his tape against Oregon up against
any defensive tackle in this entire draft class. I mean
it was big time with some fourth down stops, the
range laterally, the ability to get up the field and
rush as well.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
I love his game.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Caleb Banks from Florida
is the person who has the most to gain from
this opportunity. You look at him framewise, he is massive.
He has six foot six, he's almost three hundred and
thirty pounds. And he has that kind of old school
Albert Hainsworth ability to rush inside. You could even make
him a big edge rusher. I think he's, you know,
physically one of the more gifted players in the entire
draft class. Now he just needs to get out there.
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Only three games this year, got a lot of injuries
throughout his career, so this would be a big opportunity
for him.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Well, you know now that Jacob Rodriguez is one of
the best linebackers in the country, but began as a quarterback.
Was a standout high school quarterback in Texas. Began his
college career as a quarterback, seeing some limited action there,
then walked onto Texas Tech, transition to linebacker.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
And just about every award followed.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
But like any good husband, his greatest achievement marrying his wife, Emma,
back in July of twenty twenty three. And for Emma,
I mean toughness is a non negotiable in that marriage
because she is a course on active duty in the
US Army flying Blackhawk helicopters. They've been one of the
stories of college football season that has seen Jacob's notoriety
and accomplishments explode.
Speaker 9 (33:12):
Jacob Rodriguez is up for a lot.
Speaker 8 (33:16):
Of different awards.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
You know, you'll all seen it.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Walter Camp's up for the Lombardi, He's up hopefully for
the Heisman, and he's also.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Up for the Buckus Award.
Speaker 9 (33:30):
The best linebacker you've probably played ball.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Well, that's pretty cool right there. That's gonna be hard
at top.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
But there is a great group of linebackers alongside Jacob
Rodriguez in this game. As you got to look at
the rest of the national team linebacking crew, then as
we get to the American side, we'll show you those
linebackers and there's some fantastic players here like Keyshawn Elliott
from Arizona State, Jack Kelly from b Y, you and
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so Drew. As you get a chance to, uh, you know,
have studied all these guys on tape.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
I'm sure you could name a bunch. But what stands
out to you about this linebacker group.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
It's a really good mix of Mikes and Wills. You know,
those gonna be They're gonna be some. There's some teams
that are gonna have some make decisions on whether some
of these guys are big Nikels or will linebackers. Uh,
that kind of leads me into You know, Kyle Lewis
again lucky enough to line up against him for two
straight years when he played at Pitt you know, he
played in the box, he played out in space, he
played as a big nickel. He's gonna have to show
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people that he can play will backer on a regular
basis or be a moneybacker because he is impactful.
Speaker 9 (34:45):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
He makes place all over the field. I mean he
runs well, he's really really good in space. He kind
of reminds me a little bit of Levante David, you know,
the same kind of body type, coming out really like
the player, and I think he's gonna have a really
good week down here in Mobile.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Man, you talk about impactful, it's hard to make a
bigger impact than Jacob Brettriguez. When you look at the tape,
this is dude that is the heart and soul of
the Red Raider defense. Plays all over the place, plays
with his hair on fire. But more importantly, he is
a takeaway machine. You think about fifteen turnovers that he's
responsible for over the last two years. You see it
on tape over and over again. We can talk about
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all the trophies that are occupying and dominating his Mantle
to me, is just the way that he akees over
the game. He is someone that is going to make
an immediate impact on a defense next season, but first
he's gonna have an opportunity to make that impact at
the senior ball.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah, one of the leaders on one of the best
defenses in college football. Another leader on another great defense
and elite defense is at Oregon and Bryce Betcher, and
someone with a unique background. He's drafted in the Major
League Baseball, played baseball there at Oregon. He's an excellent
overall athlete and for someone who's had to split time
with sports, you wouldn't know it based off of the
instincts that he has. He sees the game very clearly.
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There's no hesitation, he sees it, he shoots, he goes,
and he's got tremendous range. So I think this would
be a good format for him, especially the one on
one stuff. I think you'll see him not only is
someone who's gonna be able to rush, but somebody who's
going to be able to cover backs and tight ends
as well.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Time playmaker there and Betcher, for sure, surely we all
knew that DJ was going to go with the guy
with the baseball background. All right, a lot more to
come here as we continue on our Senior Bowl Roster
reveal show.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Here I move the sticks.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
We've got a couple of groups left and it's the
DB's cornerbacks in safeties up next.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
When we continue here, I move the sticks.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
We're back here with you on our Move the Sticks
Senior Bowl Roster Reveal show.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
This is also a jersey reveal.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Show, and with a nod back to Senior Bowls of
the past, we get a little bit of a throwback
UNI for this year's Panini Senior BOWLRT lewis Executive director
of the Senior Bowl. Drew Fabians back here with us. Drew,
I just thought this might look pretty good, you know,
not bad. I need I need to adjust the fitting
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on that a little bit. But Panini's been awesome obviously
stepping up now this year with the Senior Bowl, and
I know that you know, the UNI's and the look
are just one piece of it.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
What a what an incredible partner they've been. You know,
they actually for the for the invite, you know box,
they actually made a custom card for the each player
and it was one of one five. There's only one
hundred and forty five of these cards that were actually
made by Panini and they're encased, they're sealed their ment
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and again that was one of the greatest things that
you know, those guys found in their box, you know,
when they did that. And going back to the uniform,
we went back to the original colors, the red, white,
and blue too.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Yeah, yeah, super cool to see those unis on Saturday
when we get down to Mobile all right on NFL Network,
where we'll see this group of cornerbacks taking the field.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
TJ.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Hall from Iowa a big time playmaker out there. I mean,
so many studs in this group on the national side,
Jayleen McMurray from Tennessee. As we get over to the
American side as well, Man Davidson Igbinosa from Ohio State
might have been in this conversation last year, decided to
go back to Columbus and still finds his way here
to Mobile following another big year for Ohio State. Okay, Drew,
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how about a cornerback that you know obviously has big
time skills, but maybe we're going to learn that name
a little more so after their week in Mobile.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Charles Deming, Steven F. Austin. This is a great opportunity
him for him to show that he belongs. You know,
he's a long corner, doesn't have a lot of mass
right now, but he got a really really good foot
speed for his length, good man cover skills, good press skills.
And again this is big for him because again he's
gonna be the best against the best now and let's
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see if he belongs.
Speaker 6 (39:01):
You know, you talk about belonging.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
We are always looking for big corners in this league,
and Jalen McMurray from Tennessee is someone that certainly is
going to intrigue a bunch of scales. Six foot one
hundred and eighty seven pounds, doesn't have a lot of interception.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
So the ballski is gonna be in question.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
But we see that size, that length, and maybe what
he's able to do on the edges, he is going
to have a chance. And he's one on ones in
team drills to show people that he's more than what
he's shown on tape.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
He is someone that is certainly an intriguing prospect.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
If you're talking about big corners, look no further than
the tandem from the Washington Huskies. A pair of skyscrapers
out there at six foot four each to Carrio Davis
and Ephesians Price Sock and for if you price sock
in particular, I had an interception this year, but really
benefited from the tutelage of their defensive coordinator Ryan Walters,
who came on this year, helped them work on some
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of the things. Felt like he needed to to make
this jump now from the college game to the NFL,
and we'll get a chance to see that in person
on the field in mobile. Let's get to the safeties
now down at the twenty twenty six Panini senior boll
Bug Clark from TCU, another guy with playmaking ability saying
there for Zach Wheatley from Penn State.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
And as we get to the American side, we get.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
A look at the safeties as a part of that group,
Kamari Ramsey do that was a big part of the
culture change on that USC defense when Danton and Land
came over from UCLA to run things as the defensive coordinator.
Okay Drew a safety that you're excited to see down
in Mobile.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
No doubt. Jaylen Kilgore, you know he's one of those
guys you want him to be the first one off
the bus because he looks better than most linebackers. Look.
He's He's an enormous human that runs well, plays big nickel,
plays strong safety. He's played some free throughout his time.
You know this is going to be big for him
just because he needs to kind of solidify where you
know people are going to play him, and they're gonna
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have to decide where they're going to play him because
you know he'd actually play some nickel backer. Two. Great
skill set. Looking looking forward to seeing him mobile, especially
in one on ones.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Which I just love it as someone who's gonna be
up there in the booth covering these practices that you
just put it on a t for us, because when
we have secondary players with names Genesis and Ephesians, we're
just gonna see who's gonna be a revelation, you know,
I mean, we're just gonna tie this whole thing up
at biblical terms here. I'm gonna go for Bud Clark
here speaking of that of Texas Christian.
Speaker 7 (41:19):
Of course, Bud Clark. Tie it all together. Long, Rangy safety.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
All you have to do is watch the Bowl game
against USC and watch some of the plays he made
on the ball in that game where it looks like
it's really a lot of space.
Speaker 7 (41:31):
It closes in a hurry.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Well, look forward to seeing those safeties out there in
this year's Senior Bowl. But look, it's not just offensive defense. Okay,
we fill this whole thing out, as you guys know.
And so we get the operation on the punt team
from Georgia bo Gardner, the long snapper, Brett Thorston, a punter,
will be there, Ryan Eckley at a terrific year at
Michigan State.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Drew Stevens.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
We know those specialists are top notch there in Iowa
City for Kirk Farrence and Drew Stevens will join.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
The crew there for the specialists.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
True incredible work from you and from Jack Gilmore, your
entire scouting staff putting this roster together. How would you
describe as we get ready to leave you here, but
the anticipation of finally getting to see the fruits of
your labor, as we're getting so close to getting the mobile.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to because it has been kind
of a whirlwind, and I'm very thankful for the staff
and what they've done for me. You know, I've watched
every single players that we've been invited that's accepted and
everything else, and I just want to see I want
to see this from the other side because I've never
been to a game here ever, you know, because we
always leave on Thursday. Bucky and Daniel Day never seen
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a game, So looking forward to seeing the event. Great groups,
two great groups in this one. I think the corners
and the edge rushers.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Good.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
Forward to that Senior Bowl where players play.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Thanks for being with us, guys, We appreciate its