June 6, 2024 • 46 mins
It has been 80 years since D-Day. Jesse Kelly honors the fallen and slams the communists who used this day as an opportunity to target the right. Jesse also discusses the state of America's military and gets thoughts from Pete Hegseth. That's not all. Top Trump ally Steve Bannon has just been ordered to prison. Jesse gives his thoughts on that. Plus, appearances from Margot Cleveland and Dave Smith.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
D Day Today, Pete haig Seth joins us talks about
D Day, the state of our military, all kinds of
lawfair stuff with Margot Cleveland, my friend comedian Dave Smith.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I mean, we are stacked tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
But I'm right, well, what is today?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah? And yes, believe me.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I am aware of all the news of the day,
the lawfair stuff we have, Pete haig Seth, there's so
much modern news stuff we're going to get to.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
But what is today?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Today is the eightieth anniversary of D Day. Now I'm
going to do something just really really briefly here. First,
remember this was Operation Overlord. What was Operation Overlord? We
didn't know how to get into Europe. Hitler had taken
it all and had fortified it all, and we were trying.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
To figure out how do we get in?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
You know, we look at a map and we think,
what is go in here? No, he had fortified the
whole thing on the Atlantic coast, three thousand miles of fortifications.
That's what Hitler had done. Barbed wire, pill boxes, you
name it, the works. He loaded it all up. They
came up with Operation Overlord and and we went and
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I want you to imagine something and then we're gonna
move on. We'll talk about some other things, what Biden
said and all that other stuff today.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
But I want you, I want you to picture this.
You get up at three am.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's cold outside, you're so nervous, you have a hard
time eating breakfast. Maybe you got some down, maybe you don't.
You throw on all your gear and you head down
to the water. It's still dark and it's cold, it's cold, cold, rainy.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And you step into a boat.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
You're very careful not to touch the water in the
English Channel because it's cold too. You're already cold, you're
already nervous, you already got the shakes.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
And you step into this boat.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And then the boat begins to move in the dark
towards danger and you know this, and the waves start
coming over the sides. The sea is so terrible. One
of your boats capsizes, everyone lost. The water starts flooding in.
Now you're soaking wet, you're freezing cold, you're nervous, you're
seasick to the point the bottom of the boat is
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starting to fill up with vomit.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And on and on.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You go, and soon you begin to make out the
outline of a cliff, a tall cliff in front of you.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It's all dark and black, and as you get.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Closer and closer and closer to that cliff, it starts
to shoot at you, mortar shells, machine gun fire. Your
friends start to get hit, and finally you land on
the beaches underneath this hundred foot tall cliff. You and
your friends are being shot at from the Germans above.
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They're chucking grenades down at you. But you don't just
get to hide. There's nowhere to retreat to. It's just
the ocean back behind you. You have to use ladders
and grappling hooks with ropes on them like your batman
to get to the top of this cliff while you're
being shot at and blown up. One of your buddies
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right beside you, was halfway up the cliff, thirty feet up,
and the Germans cut the rope and down.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
He goes, right in front of you. That was the story.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
That's a brief part of the story of the Second
Ranger Battalion and what they did on D Day.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It's a lesser known part of D Day.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yes, they scaled one hundred foot tall cliff and fought
the Germans on top of it.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Can you even imagine the kind of bravery it takes.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Two hundred and twenty five men set out to do
that that day. By dawn the next day, seventy of
them could stand and then wheeled a rifle. Unimaginable bravery.
And we honor all of them today. The bravery that
takes all of you. It's just it's amazing to me.
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I can never do it. Whatever that is, I don't
have it. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
That's D Day. That's a little brief story on D Day.
Probably listening to that story, probably I would guess, I
would guess stirred a little something in you. Patriotism, some
sort of pry, maybe maybe even sadness for those who
lost their lives. But something in you stirred when I
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was just talking to you for a couple of minutes,
didn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's natural.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Look, when I was sitting down doing some things before
the show, I'm talking full disclosure. You know I'm not
the touchy feely type. I choked up a little bit,
a couple of little parts.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
That I left out it. They got me, they got
me bad.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
But I want you to listen to something, and I
set aside your anger as best you can. But Joe Biden,
of course had to pretend to care about d Days. Today,
Winton gave a little speech, and of course he made
it political.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
We're living at a time when democracy had more risk
across the world than a point since the end through
World War Two, since these beaches were stormed.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Hillary Clinton went on social media today and said something similar.
Eighty years ago today, thousands of brave Americans fought to
protect democracy on the shores of Normandy this November.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
All we have to do is vote.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Taking a day like this, a day about America, a
day to honor the troops, to honor their sacrifice, to
honor their service.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
And making it about an election about politics.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
How could they do that? How could they be so
tone deaf? You've seen a lot of that today. If
you've seen these comments, well, I just need to explain
something to you. These people don't share your value system
at all. It is so critical that you understand that
you're dealing with a totally different animal. I could have
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told I could sit Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton down,
I could sit your liberal aunt Peggy down in front
of me, and I could spend an hour going over
the stories of just that second Ranger Battalion on D Day,
and the ropes and the ladders and the blood and
the bombs and the bullets and the sacrifice, and nothing,
nothing inside of them would stir. None of the things
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that just stirred inside of you would stir at all.
It wouldn't even make a dent. It would be like
I was talking to a monkey. Nothing would stir inside
of them. You have to understand that our country is
led you me, We share a country.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
With people who feel nothing for it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
For the elite communists who run this country, that Joe
Biden's the Hillary Clinton's America has nothing but a bank
vault to be looted. They'll do whatever they can and
then leave the carcass when they move on to something else.
For the street communists, the dirt balls in the streets
with this and the dad and the climate change and
the black lives better or whatever else it may be,
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America is just the gigantic evil empire to be burned.
It is critically important that you and I understand and
except we share a country with people who feel.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Nothing for it.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Were led by people who feel nothing for our nation,
and it looks it's part of why these people are
apparently so willing to get us into World War three?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Do you see what Joe Biden said today?
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Our American weapons being used right now inside Russia.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
They're authorized to be used in proximity to the border.
We're not authorizing stretch two hundred miles into Russia. We're
not off in the striction on Moscow. I'm the Kremlin.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
We are authorizing US weapons to be used inside of
Russian's borders. Do you understand what an escalation that is?
Do you understand that that is forcing Vladimir Putin to
respond in kind hate? Vladimir Putin all you want, I
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certainly do. He is able to remain leader of Russia
because he sells himself as the strong man protector of Russia.
That's how he sells himself. He cannot allow American weapons
to kill Russians inside of his border without a response.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
He can't.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
So.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
On this eightieth anniversary of.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
D Day, when we think about all the blood and
bombs and bullets and death and sacrifice, look at the
people we have now and how willing they are to
send our sons and daughters back again.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
It just blows me away.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Well, it is awful to be led by people like this,
people who don't care about our troops. I mean, Joe Biden,
Democrat Republic doesn't matter. He's president, he is the commander
in chief. And the guys I know who are still
in do not feel valued. To put it, mildly, joining
me now, Pete Hegseth, author of the book The War
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on Warriors, you really should pick this book up and
find out exactly how our guys are being treated.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Pete.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Honestly, it's not exactly something new that guys who are
in don't exactly get treated great. You don't join to
get treated great. You're not signing up to stay at
the Hilton. That's not how it works. But it would
be nice if you didn't have this never ending feeling
of betrayal from the people who lead you, not just
to politicians, but the dirt ball flag officers we have
now in this military.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
You know, that's why the subtitle is behind the betrayal
of the men who keep us free.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
It is it is.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Generals with stars on their shoulder who are cowards, who
ultimately wouldn't stand up to the ideologies being rammed down.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
The throats of our leadership.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
They never stood up and said nope, Hey, you know,
women in combat's not going to work very well. You're
not going to stand up and say we're not going
to do this trans stuff. But didn't stand up and say, hey,
we don't need your CRT and DEI. It only makes
it causes division inside our ranks, only creates skepticism and animosity.
And no one ever threw their stars on the table
said we're not doing it. So as a result, this
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book is not how the military went woke. It's how
the military allowed itself to go woke. You're right, because
there were cowards and camouflage wouldn't make tough polls or
retire or call it out or resign and say I'm
not doing this because politicians are going to do what
politicians do. We know what left wingers do. They do
crazy stuff. Just keep it out of our military where
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it's life or death. Because you're right, we all signed up.
We get the uniform and the bad haircut. We know
we're not in for paradise. We're in because we love
the country and a lot of vet You know this.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
You talk to these.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Guys, I talk to them, are questioning whether they would
recommend it. For their sons and their daughters in the future.
And that's pretty understandable considering what folks have done to
the military.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Pete.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I'll tell you right now, I've got two boys thirteen
and fifteen, and they're not joining.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I realized they can do whatever they want when they're eighteen.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
But my kids are out, and I don't know a
single gat veteran friend of mine.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Who feels differently.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And these are guys who come from military families. We're
talking WW two, Korea, Vietnam, my grandpa, my dad, my uncle.
I fought in Iraq, I fought in Afghanistan, and now
they're telling their kids, Nope, you're done with all of this.
These are the families who in our wars, Pete, and
they're done. And the guys who are interesttting out. The
retention crisis is as bad as the recruiting crisis.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
So what do we do? Where do we go? Who
stands up? Who does it?
Speaker 5 (11:48):
And because you're right, this has always been a family business,
here's the crazy part.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
You know, if you don't like your tax rates, you
can move to another state. If you don't like your school,
you can move to another school. If you don't like one.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Hundred and first Airborne. Where else do you go? I mean,
if you don't like the Marine Corps, where else you don't?
There just now where else to go. So we're a
republic which has turned on itself. We know that we're
in a cold civil war. We've got to teach our
kids to hate the country that they live in. We
trans our, I mean, it's a disaster. But if we
lose the military, then where else do we turn? So
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I grappled with that very same question. My friends say
the exact same thing. The last chapter of the book
is a letter to my five sons about whether I
would want them to serve. And I didn't know what
I would write, because I've kind of been in your
camp for the longest time. And at the end of
the day, I think if there was a Trump presidency,
in a real realignment of the Pentagon, if we're saying,
you know, heads are rolling, we're firing woke generals, We're
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putting a real sect death in charge, a real Chairman
of the Joint Chiefs. We're getting rid of DEI and
CRT at our military academies.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
We're gonna focus on readiness. Let's take the.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Standards back to nineteen ninety five, whenever they were in
nineteen ninety five. Let's make them that and stick with him.
I could I could see myself recommending my boy serving.
But under this, I mean, Jesse. You probably don't know
the story I told it in the book. For the
first time, I was dubbed an extremist by my National
Guard unit following the twenty twenty riots, and when we
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were going to go guard the inauguration.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
That's why I got out. So it's personal for me,
it's personal for you.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Everybody's seen something, whether it's facting mandates, whether it's a
first getting promoted in whatever slot, whether it's training being
diverted to some nonsense instead of I don't know, gunnery
tables like all that.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Everybody's seeing an aspect of it. We got to fix
it or where do we turn?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
No, look, if they if they could make those kind
of changes, I'll drop my boys off at the recruiting office.
But it's just the way it is now.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Pete. I want to ask you this because.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
You were an officer Afghanistan Iraq, a ground pounder, not
one of these poge types. But anyway, you were an officer.
But these guys, these generals we were just lamenting about
a couple minutes ago.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
They were too.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I mean, Mark Billy, we all dog on him now
justifiably so.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Mark Billy's piece of trash.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
But Mark Milly back in the day was pete excess.
Mark Milly was a pipe pitter. Mark Milly was a stud.
So what happened when the things on the bars changed?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
What happens in there? Pete?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Explain it to me, because I don't understand the first
lieutenant Mark Milly would beat the crap out of four
star Mark Millie.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
That's back when he did pt Uh, you're exactly right,
and that he's a.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Centerpiece of an example of one.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Part of the question is part of the answers. I
don't know why does that transformation happen. There's a lot
of reasons I unpack in the book. Ultimately, you know,
guys like Mark Milly went to the same woke, elite colleges.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Our military now sends all.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Of our senior officers to Ivy League schools or elite
schools to.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Go look more like civilians.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
They're supposed to educate civilians on military life. They come back,
They come back with a pink hue to their camouflage,
and they want to be liked by the chattering class.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
There's a lot of.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
That, but general officers that ranked has it's become about careerism.
It's become about get along, to go along, find the
current and ride it. The most dangerous thing you could
do is take a risk or take a stand. And
they know no one's actually held accountable for war fighting aspects,
so they're willing, under Obama and their Biden to cater
to say, Okay, well, not what I would do, but
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you know what I'm here, so I'll.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Make sure it'd be shepherded. Okay, oh yeah, I know
we don't really need.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Electric tanks, but the politicians are telling me, so we're
going to do it with the best military know how
that we can. They rationalize it by thinking they can
make it less worse, and then they start justifying it,
and then they get in front of congressional committees and
they end up defending it like Milly did, and pretty
soon they've sold the pharma.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I know for a fact Milli has this book and
he hates it.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
I've got that on direct knowledge because it calls him
out specifically as an example of this but I also
talked to I've talked to a two three star marine
for general who is a part of integrating women into
the combat units, and he proudly talked about it. And
when I was like, well, you know, they're less combat effect. Oh,
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it's like, do you think men and women are not
physically different?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Are we going down that train at this point?
Speaker 5 (16:07):
So they just rationalize it to go along to get
their stars and then get their job in corporate America
and some defense contractor and where they keep making money.
They're just listening to the politicians and ignoring their old
of office.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, countries led by militaries led by General Raytheon. Now
this freaking blows me away. Pete, my brother, thank you.
I appreciate you very much. All Right, we have a
lot more. You thought you thought that January sixth, people
going to prison were the only ones. You thought Donald
Trump being convicted possibly sent to prison was the only one.
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As I have said, without real retribution, this doesn't stop.
Another Trump ally is about to go to prison. We'll
talk about that next. Before we talk about that, let
me talk to you about your cell phone company. Look,
these cell phone companies are awful. Almost all the more.
They're awful because they take on money. You say you
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pay your cell phone bill automatically, we all do. You
put in your credit card and gets paid automatically every
single month. And then they take your money and they
send it to play Parenthood, they send it to Black
Lives Matter, they send it to all these disgusting group
Pride Month stuff. You don't need Verizon, you don't need
AT and T. You don't need T Mobile. There's a
patriotic cell phone company that shares and promotes your values.
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Your bill will get cut in half. Minded my bill
got cut in half. You don't sacrifice coverage. You can
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Speaker 2 (17:54):
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Speaker 1 (18:03):
All right, Let's address something real quick before we move
on to the rest of our show.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Steve Bannon is going to jail now.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Department of Justice has taken yet another Trump aid and
throwing him in jail. And I just want to once
again emphasize that I know what I'm about to say
is ugly. I know it is uncomfortable. I know it's
not who you want to be. I know it's not
the country you want to live in, and it's not
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the kind of country I want to live in either.
We have to start arresting Democrats and throwing them in prison.
Republican ags and red states have to begin arresting Democrat
congressman senators.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
There should already be.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
An arrest warrant issued for Joe Biden the day he's
out of the presidency. We have to begin arresting Democrats,
putting them on trial, convicting them, and throwing.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Them in prison.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I know that's terrible do, but the truth is they're
not going to stop. They've been arresting these poor January
sixth people for years. They're gunning them down in Utah.
They're throwing pro lifers in prison. They're disbarring Trump's attorneys.
Trump himself may go to jail now, Bannon's going to jail.
These people are not backing off or slowing down because
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you're mad or I'm mad, and they won't.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
They're ramping up.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
They're ramping up because we refuse to respond in kind.
Without arrests, without Democrats going to prison, we cannot save
the country because we can't stop them from doing what
they're doing. They will never stop ever unless we make
them stop. I heard Andrew McCabe on CNN. He said
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this today, and I'll tell you what. I stood up
and cheered. He's of course lying, but I wish she
was telling the truth.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
He runs the risk of really dismantling and greatly incapacitating
the Department of Justice and the FBI. I have a
lot of conversations with former colleagues, people who are or
were in the intelligence and law enforcement community and may
have worked in the Obama administration other places, and you know,
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people are really trying to assess, like what is life
going to be like if Donald Trump wins a second term?
And on a very personal level, I mean, these are
tortuous discussions with their family members about whether or not
they have to leave the country to avoid being unconstitutionally
and illegally detained. I mean, people are actually worried about
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being thrown in jail or grabbed in some sort of
extra judicial detention.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Okay, first of all, let's be clear Donald Trump's not
going to do that. He's on social media still bragging
about building the FBI a new building. He's not going
to do that. If he was going to do that,
if Donald Trump got up today and announced that he
intends to arrest and imprison a bunch of FBI agents,
I would publicly max donate to his campaign. I would
call every rich guy I know in fundraise for him.
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I would make phone calls for him. I would knock
on doors for him. In my maga hat. That is
exactly what must happen in order to save the country.
Andrew McCabe is, of course lying, or his friends are lying.
None of these people have any fear at all.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And that is the problem.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Unless the bad guys start being afraid, we cannot save America.
We can't normal our way back into saving our country.
That's simply a fact. All right, all right now, I'm
a little wound up today. You know why I'm a
little wound up today. It's actually not the news stories.
I just keep knocking out eight hours of sleep and
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eight hours of sleep and eight hours of sleep.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
It's just consistent, over and over and over again. How
do I do that?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Well, if there's ever a night where I feel like
I'm not going to sleep. Maybe I had an afternoon
cup of coffee, which I shouldn't do.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I just reach for dream powder. Isn't that a cool
name for it? Beam?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
They came up with this stuff called called dream powder.
Now it's all natural. It's all natural, and the beauty
of that is not the taste, even though it's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Mine is cinnamon chocolate.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I essentially have a cup of cinnamon hot chocolate for
dinner or after dinner.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I have that before bed because it's natural.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I not only go to sleep, I wake up and
I feel great. I don't wake up and feel heavy
and groggy like you do when you take things to sleep.
Beam doesn't do that. You wake up, You're ready to go?
That sound good to go? Get some shopbeam dot com
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a bag or two of dream powder. You will own
it for life. Trust me, you'll keep going back.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
We'll be back.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Hunter Biden struggled with addiction. We are a country that
has been riddled with addiction. And you know a percentage
of this population has struggled with fent and al and
all sorts of opioids, and you know, this is addiction
is a real American problem. So the fact that they're
kind of they keep hammering him on being an addict,
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on having a gun, you know, and also on having
a gun, which Republicans really like guns. So I think
it's going to be I think this is going to
keep going. But I do think Biden has a really
good opportunity here to say the laws the law for everyone,
be at my son or Donald Trump. You know, this
is the way it works in this country.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, if Hunter Biden gets convicted, Joe Biden's going to
wait about fifteen minutes before he pardons it. But I
don't think he's going to get convicted anyway. I'm curious
what Margot has to say about it.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Mark joining me now.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Margot Cleveland's senior legal correspondent with The Federalist, and actually
you have a piece up about all this in the Federalist. Margo,
what do you say and what do you think?
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Well, first, I just have to at that SoundBite you played.
The reason they're focusing on Hunter Biden being an addict
is because that is one of the things they have
to prove in this case that he either is an
addict or that he was using drugs, and they've presented
evidence of both. The other thing is Republicans, Yeah, we
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love the right to bear arms, but we always say legally,
we don't want people who aren't supposed to be possessing
them possessing them. It's the Democrats who think all guns
should be gone no matter what. It's the violation of
the law that hunter Biden did that is the problem here.
But I'm with you. I don't think that the jury
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is going to convict him. I think all you have
to do is look what the breakdown in the city
was for voting, and it was actually higher pro Biden
over Trump in twenty twenty than in Manhattan. So I
don't see that we're going to see a conviction in
this case.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Okay, now you need to explain that to me, Margo.
How could there not be a conviction when it's my
understanding and obviously, as you know, I'm not the lawyer
you are. This is as black and white as it gets.
He lied on this form when I filled out many
times to purchase the firearm. He lied about it. It's
black and white evidence. Because this freakin' moron wrote a
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book about being an addict while he lied about the form.
It's dead right, So I mean Johnny Cochran couldn't get
him out of this.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
How could he get out of this?
Speaker 9 (25:30):
Margot, Well, there are two things here we have to
keep in mind. Is what is the idea of jury nullification?
The jury says, yes, we can and we will follow
the law. It doesn't mean that when they get back
in the jury box that one person won't convince the
others that look, yes he was an addict, Yes he lied,
but he's turned his life around. And really this is
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something that five.
Speaker 10 (25:54):
Years ago they didn't pursue. Why are they doing it now.
Speaker 9 (25:58):
It's a political reason that their pursuit doing it now,
and therefore we should let him off.
Speaker 10 (26:03):
So that's the idea of jury nullification.
Speaker 9 (26:06):
And then the second part of that is they have
to prove intent and juries aren't always the brightest bulb
in the box. And Hunter Biden's got some really good
attorneys who can try to convince them that in his mind,
he wasn't an addict because he was in rehab, in
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his mind, he wasn't a user, or he wasn't using
because he wasn't using.
Speaker 10 (26:33):
The moment he purchased the gun.
Speaker 9 (26:35):
Now the evidence is overwhelming that both of those should
be rejected, but again, the jury might decide otherwise for it.
But another thing I think is important to keep in
mind is, even if Hunter Biden is convicted of this,
it isn't somehow showing that we have one standard of
justice under the law Hunter Biden, those on the Bidens
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side of the equation, the folks in the DOJ, they
did everything they could to prevent this case from coming
to trial. And if you contrast that with what happened
with Donald Trump, it was all of the outsiders doing
everything they could to get a case against Donald Trump.
Speaker 10 (27:17):
So even if Hunter.
Speaker 9 (27:18):
Is eventually convicted on this or on the tax case,
it doesn't show that there's this one standard of justice.
What it shows is that the two standards of justice
failed to actually get the results that they wanted. They
wanted Hunter to walk on this, It just didn't fly
because of the whistleblowers.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Margo sentencing, What do you expect for Hunter? And I
might as well just go ahead and ask the follow up, now,
what do you expect for Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Right?
Speaker 9 (27:54):
So I would not be surprised if Hunter has a
sentence that does not require any jail time. There is
a lot of discretion under the federal statutes. In the guidelines,
I'd have to double check to make sure there's no
mandatory minimum of imprisonment by statute. If there isn't, then
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I would say there's not going to be any jail
time because he did, as far as we can tell,
has his addiction under control, which is a great thing.
As the sound bite said, there are a lot of
addicts in this country. It's a horrible thing. And if
he actually has it under control, that's great. And on
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this chart, maybe no jail time for Donald Trump. It
is impossible to tell, because this judge is so wacky
that I could see him ordering him Donald Trump to
go directly to jail, trying to keep him out of
the Republican Convention. It shouldn't be a matter of jail
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time because of the type of offense it was, which
was a made up offense. We're really misdemeanors that the
statueta limitations ran out. But it is impossible to predict
what this judge will do.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Margot, who's going to step in, if anybody, and save
Trump from this, overturn this conviction. I know Trump has
been harpened at the Supreme Court to step in.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Are they going to? Is that a good idea?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Surely someone's going to step in and toss all this
out right, And if they are, when are they going
to do it?
Speaker 10 (29:27):
Well, no one is going to step in.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
It's going to be a matter of Donald Trump's legal
team filing a challenge and whether he does this first
in the state court, which is the typical process, or
somehow tries to bring this in the federal court first.
I highly doubt that will happen because under the federal system,
you're supposed to exhaust all of your state court remedies
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before you jump over to federal court. I could see
his attorneys trying to go straight to the highest court
in New York and trying to get them to do
an expedited appeal to throw the conviction out, and then
if that does not happen, that he then goes and
tries to get the Supreme Court to take it from
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there based on due process claims.
Speaker 10 (30:15):
Because this is a state court conviction.
Speaker 9 (30:17):
The only way the Supreme Court can intervene is if
Trump's lawyers have a basis to bring it to the
court and they do a violation of Donald Trump's due
process rights would be a way to get it to
the Supreme Court. But there's going to have to be
at least one step in the state court system before
it gets to the US Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Okay, so Supreme Court's not going to swoop in here
and save the day in the next ten minutes before
I let you go, Margo.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
The US Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
It's very obvious to me from the outside looking in
that the commies in this country are running it up
against the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
They've threatened them all the time. They threaten them with legislation.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
One of these dirty street monsters tried to kill Kavanaugh.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
They're protesting in front of their house.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
It's very obvious they're going after the Supreme Court. Are
they going to end up being successful in that?
Speaker 10 (31:09):
They aren't?
Speaker 9 (31:09):
And this is really to me it looks like a
ploy to get votes. They're trying to make the Supreme
Court an issue, and they don't have.
Speaker 10 (31:19):
Anything else they can go on.
Speaker 9 (31:20):
With Joe Biden, he's been a failure on everything, inflation,
the economy.
Speaker 10 (31:26):
Foreign affairs, the border.
Speaker 9 (31:28):
So what are they going to do that the Supreme
Court is controlled by the president. And look what Trump
has done by appointing these right wing wackos who have
no ethics.
Speaker 10 (31:39):
So it's not going to work.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
But it's not going to work from the judicial standpoint.
It might have some vote getting by the political you know,
the political basis of it.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Margo, thank you so much. I appreciate it. All right, Doctor,
you remember her, don't you.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
She's still out there running her mouth on TV about
new things that you need to do. I need to
do new ways we can destroy the economy. Of course,
in the name of medicine and science. We'll talk to
comedian my friend Dave Smith next about that. Before we
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Speaker 11 (33:33):
I'm making the personal sacrifices not to infect my parents
and my pregnant daughter.
Speaker 12 (33:38):
I worry about that because then it gives people.
Speaker 11 (33:41):
The option to say, well, bars and restaurants are open.
Then I can have twenty people over for Thanksgiving, and
so I don't like it to be any number. I
like it to be keep it to your immediate household.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I'm sorry, I've almost said. I almost forgot that the
interviewer used to sit so far away during the interviews.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
It's such a stupid time.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
And remember remember that evil witch you just saw there
About the time that interview wrapped up, she popped the
micro she popped the ear piece oute of her ear
and went and partied with all of her extended family.
That's that's the kind of people who run this country.
Now joining me now my friend comedian Dave Smith. He
hosts the part of the Problem podcast, which I would
highly recommend.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Dave.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I still get angry about all that crap I do,
but it's so ridiculous when I see the old videos
and just.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
The laughter comes out of me.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Man, what a what a ridiculous nation we turned into
because of a chess cold.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, oh, good to see you, Jesse.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
And it is even as you're playing that clip, like
I haven't seen that one in forever, and.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
It is just like it's like, was it all a dream?
Did that really?
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Did we really allow our nation to be so degradated
as humiliated that this by the way, you know what
I completely forgot about it is like, oh, yeah, remember
they had that death count up on the side of
sea and then for the entire year of twenty twenty
until Joe Biden got sworn in and then they just
pretended like it didn't exist anymore. But it was just
it was what a wild time and of you know,
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watching the as I was just watching some of the
Fauci hearings. It's just amazing how much they all have
to walk away from it, like they can't. They can't
defend one inch of the insanity.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
No, the can'ts No one can.
Speaker 11 (35:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
All you get is either flat out denials or they'll
get this candy.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I can't say that word on a family show.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
That you get this response of well, nobody knew, which.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Is of course garbage. Tons of people knew.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
They were all the people who got censored off of
social media. Speaking of Burks here she was along those lines.
Speaker 13 (35:44):
Do you think there is any veracity to some of
the Republican accusations that there was an effort to discredit
the lab leak theory.
Speaker 12 (35:57):
I think early on people did take very definitive sides,
and it did divide along party lines, and we're still
suffering from that four years later in a whole set
of issues related to pandemic and pandemic preparedness.
Speaker 14 (36:09):
Sure, but on the laveleak specifically, you think that happened.
Speaker 12 (36:12):
I do think it happened.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
It was a love leak. We know they covered it up.
They just they lie about everything.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Yeah, and you know, as is often the case, they
kind of project this thing onto the Republicans that I
wish was true. Like they're like, well it it was
a partisan issue, and the Republicans were all talking about.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
No, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
The overwhelming majority of Republicans tucked their tail between their legs,
said yeah, yeah, yeah, LAB leak is a conspiracy, and
then proceeded to push lockdown policies just like the Democrats did.
There's a couple of exceptions, you know, obviously Dessanta's walked
back lockdowns in Florida.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Nome was solid on it the whole way through. But
that's it.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
Everybody, every other Republican was just as bad as the
Democrats on this. But look, they there's such an asymmetry
here where she goes, well, there was this tendency to,
you know, plant your foot in the ground and stick.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
With your side of the issue.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
It's like, yeah, but the asymmetry there is that everyone
from all of the halls of power, including both political parties,
the entire corporate media, and the tech overlords all decided
that you would have your life ruined if you talked
about this coming from the LAB, which was obvious by
April of twenty twenty I mean, I remember the first
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time I heard it was in April of twenty twenty.
Was the first time that I heard that there were
three or four scientists from the Wuhan lab who had
been hospitalized in late November to early December with COVID
like symptoms. And that was about it for me. I
was like, Okay, well, then, obviously this is what happened.
They already knew that the bats that they thought had
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it weren't within a couple hundred miles of the wet markets.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
It just none of it made any sense.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
It was obvious what this was from the beginning, and
their side covered it up because they funded gain and
function research at this lab, so it's quite a cope
to spin that as well.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Both sides just dug in like.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Okay, yeah, I forgot we all got it from a
bowl of bat soup. They actually sold that to us,
like I just can't.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I can't leave these people.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
And to reinforce Dave's point, almost every single republic and
there are a couple he didn't name, there ran Paul
Thomas Massey types, but almost every one of.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Them stood there the stupid mask.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
On bragging that about how vaccinated they were it was pathetic.
You know what along those lines, Dave, is that why
we're never going to get a reckoning.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
I'm not naive. I want one.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I want all these people rested and thrown in federal prison.
But I know this is never going to happen, and
I just I have this theory that it's never going
to happen because we would have to throw so many
from our side right in there beside them.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
Well, listen, first of all, you're absolutely right to point
out Massi and round Paul, who were both heroic during
the whole thing. There are a handful of Republicans who
are truly outsiders, and I don't just mean on the
COVID issue, but on other issues in general. You have
people like Matt Gates and Marjorie Taylor Green and people
like that who do not They're not simply with the party.
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But I think the reality that we live under is that.
Look Donald Trump say in twenty sixteen when he ran
and won the White House, he was as much a
repudiation of the Republicans as he was of the Democrats.
I mean, he told Jeb Bush to his face that
his brother lied us into war. And Donald Trump was
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he was essentially a third party candidate, winning from within
one of the major parties. But the problem that we
have is that the establishment of the Republican Party, like
not the six people we just named, but everyone else,
is indistinguishable from the establishment of the Democratic Party. And
whether you know, obviously COVID was a major issue, they
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were identical on that. So when it comes to monetary policy,
foreign policy, government spending money, you know, like I said,
monetary policy, when it comes to the shadowy three letter
agencies who have a lot more control over our government
than our elected officials, almost every issue that matters. If
you run down the list, there is no daylight between
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the establishment of the Democratic Party and.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
The Republican Party.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
And so yeah, in order to have any real change
in this country, or to even get an investigation, let
alone an investigation we could actually trust that would actually
shed some light on anything, You're going to have to
make good on Donald Trump's original promise of draining the swamp.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
And that's no small undertaking.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
And if Donald Trump's going to get that right this time,
he's going to have to be much much better at
appointing people around him, appointing real outsiders and not swamp creatures,
and he's going to have to be willing to kind
of Malay style take an acts to the federal government
that means abolishing, abolishing agencies, drastic cuts and government spending.
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I'm not sure I've seen any indication that he's really
learned this lesson yet and he's up to it for
round two.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
But we'll say, oh, gosh.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
What if what if someone were to cut government agencies
to zero?
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Gosh?
Speaker 2 (41:19):
That would be glorious. You know what.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
I can't possibly let you go without playing this little.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Back and forth you had with Chris Cuomo. Here it was.
Speaker 15 (41:28):
And by the way, I don't like what people did
the Joe Rogan about ivermectin.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I don't who did it?
Speaker 14 (41:32):
No, no, no, yes you did, dude, find the quits
you shamed Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Hold on, let's play the quart.
Speaker 14 (41:42):
Getting injecting drugs for animals and horse.
Speaker 15 (41:46):
And people telling them to what person you know you
talk about like, you know, cancel culture and who to
shame ivermectin a de wormer.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Really, they are.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Shaming themselves, That's what it is. They're shaming them.
Speaker 14 (42:00):
So you're taking a d warmer right now. You can't
apologize for that this. You weren't being clear that it
was this.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
And you know that.
Speaker 14 (42:07):
Dude, you're being so dishonest right now. You were talking
about ivermectin, the drug. You were not talking about this
version of ivermectin.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Come on.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
I was responding to a.
Speaker 15 (42:17):
Situation where we were told that this is what people
were searching out to take and nobody knew what it
was going to do to them. Look, I'm taking the
drug right now. Obviously I don't think it's all poison.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
They I'll just let you have it, buddy.
Speaker 6 (42:34):
Oh man, I mean, look, I don't know what I
could even add to that that you didn't see right there.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
It was a very surreal moment.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
It's it's surreal for me because I'm you know, I'm me,
and here I get this one on one debate with
the guy who had the biggest show on CNN at
the time when all of this was happening, and I
was kind of curious going into it. I was like,
what is he possibly going to say? What could his
defense for all of this possibly be? And then it's
just that just lying through his teeth. Oh I never
(43:02):
did that. And then when the video comes up of
him blatantly doing that. He actually tried to say that
he wasn't demonizing ivermectin in general. He was just demonizing
people taking the veterinarian version of ivermectin, like as if
you got it prescribed for a horse and then you
took it, which obviously was never what him or anyone
(43:23):
at CNN was talking about. They were talking about Joe Rogan,
who clearly got it from a doctor and prescribed him
the people version of ivermectin like.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
It was just look, it was it again.
Speaker 6 (43:34):
It was very similar to me to Fauci in his
testimony yesterday when he was saying that, oh, you know
what was it that we we were just saying that
the vaccine stopped you from getting it or transmitting the
virus in the first wave. We were never saying it
through the second and third wave, even though we all
remember this wasn't that long ago. I mean, it's like
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we all remember you saying this the whole way through
and never backing off of that, and then as it
became clear that the vaccine didn't work, you just doubled
down and doubled down again. It's just they're obviously liars,
But I did think one of the beautiful things about
that debate, and I'm very grateful to Patch Pitt David
for setting it up.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Was that I thought that was clear.
Speaker 6 (44:16):
You know, they did a poll afterward and they got
around thirty thousand people voted in it, and I took
ninety six percent.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Four percent thought he won the debate.
Speaker 6 (44:28):
And you as you know Jesse, four percent of people
are trouns, so he got the trunds vote, but I
took the rest. And that's a I just I thought
that was like, okay, well that's pretty one sided.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Everyone could see what's up here.
Speaker 6 (44:43):
Like these guys who had so much, so much like
belief and passion as they were shaming the rest of Americans,
but when they're actually pushed, they collapsed like the house
of cards that they are.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
I was wonderful to see.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
And plus if all his people were they are technically
undecided voters.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Anyway, day, thank you, brother, I.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Will see you very very shortly. We have lightened the mood. Next,
by the way, it is d Day. You like history stuff,
the first TV dot com slash history. You go sign
up there. I do all kinds of history specials. You
enjoy them, all right, light the mood next, all right,
(45:28):
it is time to lighten the mood. And I get
people asking me a lot these days, Jesse, what do
we show our kids on TV?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
I mean, you can't watch modern day television with all
the filth on there. What do you show them?
Speaker 1 (45:40):
When I was a kid, you know what my mom
showed me when dad.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Was at work.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
If I got to watch TV, older shows, I was
watching Andy Griffiths Show and Mary Tyler Moore.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
What can you show your kids? You'll find some, mister Rogers.
Speaker 16 (45:54):
Boys are boys from the beginning. If you were born a.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Boy, stay a boy.
Speaker 16 (46:01):
Girls are girls right from the start. If you were
born a girl, you stay a girl and.
Speaker 17 (46:08):
Grow up to be a lady. Everybody's fancy, everybody's fine,
Your body's fancy, and so is my.
Speaker 16 (46:19):
Only girls can be the mummies. Only boys can.
Speaker 17 (46:26):
Be the daddies. Yes, sir, everybody's fancy, everybody's fine, Your
body's fancy, and so is mine.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
So wholesome. You miss it, don't you? I miss it too? Anyway,
I seeable
D Day Today, Pete haig Seth joins us talks about
D Day, the state of our military, all kinds of
lawfair stuff with Margot Cleveland, my friend comedian Dave Smith.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I mean, we are stacked tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
But I'm right, well, what is today?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah? And yes, believe me.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I am aware of all the news of the day,
the lawfair stuff we have, Pete haig Seth, there's so
much modern news stuff we're going to get to.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
But what is today?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Today is the eightieth anniversary of D Day. Now I'm
going to do something just really really briefly here. First,
remember this was Operation Overlord. What was Operation Overlord? We
didn't know how to get into Europe. Hitler had taken
it all and had fortified it all, and we were trying.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
To figure out how do we get in?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
You know, we look at a map and we think,
what is go in here? No, he had fortified the
whole thing on the Atlantic coast, three thousand miles of fortifications.
That's what Hitler had done. Barbed wire, pill boxes, you
name it, the works. He loaded it all up. They
came up with Operation Overlord and and we went and
(01:18):
I want you to imagine something and then we're gonna
move on. We'll talk about some other things, what Biden
said and all that other stuff today.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
But I want you, I want you to picture this.
You get up at three am.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's cold outside, you're so nervous, you have a hard
time eating breakfast. Maybe you got some down, maybe you don't.
You throw on all your gear and you head down
to the water. It's still dark and it's cold, it's cold, cold, rainy.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And you step into a boat.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
You're very careful not to touch the water in the
English Channel because it's cold too. You're already cold, you're
already nervous, you already got the shakes.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
And you step into this boat.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And then the boat begins to move in the dark
towards danger and you know this, and the waves start
coming over the sides. The sea is so terrible. One
of your boats capsizes, everyone lost. The water starts flooding in.
Now you're soaking wet, you're freezing cold, you're nervous, you're
seasick to the point the bottom of the boat is
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starting to fill up with vomit.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And on and on.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You go, and soon you begin to make out the
outline of a cliff, a tall cliff in front of you.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It's all dark and black, and as you get.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Closer and closer and closer to that cliff, it starts
to shoot at you, mortar shells, machine gun fire. Your
friends start to get hit, and finally you land on
the beaches underneath this hundred foot tall cliff. You and
your friends are being shot at from the Germans above.
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They're chucking grenades down at you. But you don't just
get to hide. There's nowhere to retreat to. It's just
the ocean back behind you. You have to use ladders
and grappling hooks with ropes on them like your batman
to get to the top of this cliff while you're
being shot at and blown up. One of your buddies
(03:15):
right beside you, was halfway up the cliff, thirty feet up,
and the Germans cut the rope and down.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
He goes, right in front of you. That was the story.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
That's a brief part of the story of the Second
Ranger Battalion and what they did on D Day.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It's a lesser known part of D Day.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yes, they scaled one hundred foot tall cliff and fought
the Germans on top of it.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Can you even imagine the kind of bravery it takes.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Two hundred and twenty five men set out to do
that that day. By dawn the next day, seventy of
them could stand and then wheeled a rifle. Unimaginable bravery.
And we honor all of them today. The bravery that
takes all of you. It's just it's amazing to me.
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I can never do it. Whatever that is, I don't
have it. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
That's D Day. That's a little brief story on D Day.
Probably listening to that story, probably I would guess, I
would guess stirred a little something in you. Patriotism, some
sort of pry, maybe maybe even sadness for those who
lost their lives. But something in you stirred when I
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was just talking to you for a couple of minutes,
didn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's natural.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Look, when I was sitting down doing some things before
the show, I'm talking full disclosure. You know I'm not
the touchy feely type. I choked up a little bit,
a couple of little parts.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
That I left out it. They got me, they got
me bad.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
But I want you to listen to something, and I
set aside your anger as best you can. But Joe Biden,
of course had to pretend to care about d Days. Today,
Winton gave a little speech, and of course he made
it political.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
We're living at a time when democracy had more risk
across the world than a point since the end through
World War Two, since these beaches were stormed.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Hillary Clinton went on social media today and said something similar.
Eighty years ago today, thousands of brave Americans fought to
protect democracy on the shores of Normandy this November.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
All we have to do is vote.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Taking a day like this, a day about America, a
day to honor the troops, to honor their sacrifice, to
honor their service.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
And making it about an election about politics.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
How could they do that? How could they be so
tone deaf? You've seen a lot of that today. If
you've seen these comments, well, I just need to explain
something to you. These people don't share your value system
at all. It is so critical that you understand that
you're dealing with a totally different animal. I could have
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told I could sit Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton down,
I could sit your liberal aunt Peggy down in front
of me, and I could spend an hour going over
the stories of just that second Ranger Battalion on D Day,
and the ropes and the ladders and the blood and
the bombs and the bullets and the sacrifice, and nothing,
nothing inside of them would stir. None of the things
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that just stirred inside of you would stir at all.
It wouldn't even make a dent. It would be like
I was talking to a monkey. Nothing would stir inside
of them. You have to understand that our country is
led you me, We share a country.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
With people who feel nothing for it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
For the elite communists who run this country, that Joe
Biden's the Hillary Clinton's America has nothing but a bank
vault to be looted. They'll do whatever they can and
then leave the carcass when they move on to something else.
For the street communists, the dirt balls in the streets
with this and the dad and the climate change and
the black lives better or whatever else it may be,
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America is just the gigantic evil empire to be burned.
It is critically important that you and I understand and
except we share a country with people who feel.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Nothing for it.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Were led by people who feel nothing for our nation,
and it looks it's part of why these people are
apparently so willing to get us into World War three?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Do you see what Joe Biden said today?
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Our American weapons being used right now inside Russia.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
They're authorized to be used in proximity to the border.
We're not authorizing stretch two hundred miles into Russia. We're
not off in the striction on Moscow. I'm the Kremlin.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
We are authorizing US weapons to be used inside of
Russian's borders. Do you understand what an escalation that is?
Do you understand that that is forcing Vladimir Putin to
respond in kind hate? Vladimir Putin all you want, I
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certainly do. He is able to remain leader of Russia
because he sells himself as the strong man protector of Russia.
That's how he sells himself. He cannot allow American weapons
to kill Russians inside of his border without a response.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
He can't.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
So.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
On this eightieth anniversary of.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
D Day, when we think about all the blood and
bombs and bullets and death and sacrifice, look at the
people we have now and how willing they are to
send our sons and daughters back again.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
It just blows me away.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Well, it is awful to be led by people like this,
people who don't care about our troops. I mean, Joe Biden,
Democrat Republic doesn't matter. He's president, he is the commander
in chief. And the guys I know who are still
in do not feel valued. To put it, mildly, joining
me now, Pete Hegseth, author of the book The War
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on Warriors, you really should pick this book up and
find out exactly how our guys are being treated.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Pete.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Honestly, it's not exactly something new that guys who are
in don't exactly get treated great. You don't join to
get treated great. You're not signing up to stay at
the Hilton. That's not how it works. But it would
be nice if you didn't have this never ending feeling
of betrayal from the people who lead you, not just
to politicians, but the dirt ball flag officers we have
now in this military.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
You know, that's why the subtitle is behind the betrayal
of the men who keep us free.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
It is it is.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Generals with stars on their shoulder who are cowards, who
ultimately wouldn't stand up to the ideologies being rammed down.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
The throats of our leadership.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
They never stood up and said nope, Hey, you know,
women in combat's not going to work very well. You're
not going to stand up and say we're not going
to do this trans stuff. But didn't stand up and say, hey,
we don't need your CRT and DEI. It only makes
it causes division inside our ranks, only creates skepticism and animosity.
And no one ever threw their stars on the table
said we're not doing it. So as a result, this
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book is not how the military went woke. It's how
the military allowed itself to go woke. You're right, because
there were cowards and camouflage wouldn't make tough polls or
retire or call it out or resign and say I'm
not doing this because politicians are going to do what
politicians do. We know what left wingers do. They do
crazy stuff. Just keep it out of our military where
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it's life or death. Because you're right, we all signed up.
We get the uniform and the bad haircut. We know
we're not in for paradise. We're in because we love
the country and a lot of vet You know this.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
You talk to these.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Guys, I talk to them, are questioning whether they would
recommend it. For their sons and their daughters in the future.
And that's pretty understandable considering what folks have done to
the military.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Pete.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I'll tell you right now, I've got two boys thirteen
and fifteen, and they're not joining.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I realized they can do whatever they want when they're eighteen.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
But my kids are out, and I don't know a
single gat veteran friend of mine.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Who feels differently.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And these are guys who come from military families. We're
talking WW two, Korea, Vietnam, my grandpa, my dad, my uncle.
I fought in Iraq, I fought in Afghanistan, and now
they're telling their kids, Nope, you're done with all of this.
These are the families who in our wars, Pete, and
they're done. And the guys who are interesttting out. The
retention crisis is as bad as the recruiting crisis.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
So what do we do? Where do we go? Who
stands up? Who does it?
Speaker 5 (11:48):
And because you're right, this has always been a family business,
here's the crazy part.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
You know, if you don't like your tax rates, you
can move to another state. If you don't like your school,
you can move to another school. If you don't like one.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Hundred and first Airborne. Where else do you go? I mean,
if you don't like the Marine Corps, where else you don't?
There just now where else to go. So we're a
republic which has turned on itself. We know that we're
in a cold civil war. We've got to teach our
kids to hate the country that they live in. We
trans our, I mean, it's a disaster. But if we
lose the military, then where else do we turn? So
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I grappled with that very same question. My friends say
the exact same thing. The last chapter of the book
is a letter to my five sons about whether I
would want them to serve. And I didn't know what
I would write, because I've kind of been in your
camp for the longest time. And at the end of
the day, I think if there was a Trump presidency,
in a real realignment of the Pentagon, if we're saying,
you know, heads are rolling, we're firing woke generals, We're
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putting a real sect death in charge, a real Chairman
of the Joint Chiefs. We're getting rid of DEI and
CRT at our military academies.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
We're gonna focus on readiness. Let's take the.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Standards back to nineteen ninety five, whenever they were in
nineteen ninety five. Let's make them that and stick with him.
I could I could see myself recommending my boy serving.
But under this, I mean, Jesse. You probably don't know
the story I told it in the book. For the
first time, I was dubbed an extremist by my National
Guard unit following the twenty twenty riots, and when we
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were going to go guard the inauguration.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
That's why I got out. So it's personal for me,
it's personal for you.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Everybody's seen something, whether it's facting mandates, whether it's a
first getting promoted in whatever slot, whether it's training being
diverted to some nonsense instead of I don't know, gunnery
tables like all that.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Everybody's seeing an aspect of it. We got to fix
it or where do we turn?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
No, look, if they if they could make those kind
of changes, I'll drop my boys off at the recruiting office.
But it's just the way it is now.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Pete. I want to ask you this because.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
You were an officer Afghanistan Iraq, a ground pounder, not
one of these poge types. But anyway, you were an officer.
But these guys, these generals we were just lamenting about
a couple minutes ago.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
They were too.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I mean, Mark Billy, we all dog on him now
justifiably so.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Mark Billy's piece of trash.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
But Mark Milly back in the day was pete excess.
Mark Milly was a pipe pitter. Mark Milly was a stud.
So what happened when the things on the bars changed?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
What happens in there? Pete?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Explain it to me, because I don't understand the first
lieutenant Mark Milly would beat the crap out of four
star Mark Millie.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
That's back when he did pt Uh, you're exactly right,
and that he's a.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Centerpiece of an example of one.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Part of the question is part of the answers. I
don't know why does that transformation happen. There's a lot
of reasons I unpack in the book. Ultimately, you know,
guys like Mark Milly went to the same woke, elite colleges.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Our military now sends all.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Of our senior officers to Ivy League schools or elite
schools to.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Go look more like civilians.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
They're supposed to educate civilians on military life. They come back,
They come back with a pink hue to their camouflage,
and they want to be liked by the chattering class.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
There's a lot of.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
That, but general officers that ranked has it's become about careerism.
It's become about get along, to go along, find the
current and ride it. The most dangerous thing you could
do is take a risk or take a stand. And
they know no one's actually held accountable for war fighting aspects,
so they're willing, under Obama and their Biden to cater
to say, Okay, well, not what I would do, but
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you know what I'm here, so I'll.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Make sure it'd be shepherded. Okay, oh yeah, I know
we don't really need.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Electric tanks, but the politicians are telling me, so we're
going to do it with the best military know how
that we can. They rationalize it by thinking they can
make it less worse, and then they start justifying it,
and then they get in front of congressional committees and
they end up defending it like Milly did, and pretty
soon they've sold the pharma.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I know for a fact Milli has this book and
he hates it.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
I've got that on direct knowledge because it calls him
out specifically as an example of this but I also
talked to I've talked to a two three star marine
for general who is a part of integrating women into
the combat units, and he proudly talked about it. And
when I was like, well, you know, they're less combat effect. Oh,
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it's like, do you think men and women are not
physically different?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Are we going down that train at this point?
Speaker 5 (16:07):
So they just rationalize it to go along to get
their stars and then get their job in corporate America
and some defense contractor and where they keep making money.
They're just listening to the politicians and ignoring their old
of office.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, countries led by militaries led by General Raytheon. Now
this freaking blows me away. Pete, my brother, thank you.
I appreciate you very much. All Right, we have a
lot more. You thought you thought that January sixth, people
going to prison were the only ones. You thought Donald
Trump being convicted possibly sent to prison was the only one.
(16:42):
As I have said, without real retribution, this doesn't stop.
Another Trump ally is about to go to prison. We'll
talk about that next. Before we talk about that, let
me talk to you about your cell phone company. Look,
these cell phone companies are awful. Almost all the more.
They're awful because they take on money. You say you
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pay your cell phone bill automatically, we all do. You
put in your credit card and gets paid automatically every
single month. And then they take your money and they
send it to play Parenthood, they send it to Black
Lives Matter, they send it to all these disgusting group
Pride Month stuff. You don't need Verizon, you don't need
AT and T. You don't need T Mobile. There's a
patriotic cell phone company that shares and promotes your values.
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Your bill will get cut in half. Minded my bill
got cut in half. You don't sacrifice coverage. You can
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Speaker 2 (17:54):
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Speaker 1 (18:03):
All right, Let's address something real quick before we move
on to the rest of our show.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Steve Bannon is going to jail now.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Department of Justice has taken yet another Trump aid and
throwing him in jail. And I just want to once
again emphasize that I know what I'm about to say
is ugly. I know it is uncomfortable. I know it's
not who you want to be. I know it's not
the country you want to live in, and it's not
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the kind of country I want to live in either.
We have to start arresting Democrats and throwing them in prison.
Republican ags and red states have to begin arresting Democrat
congressman senators.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
There should already be.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
An arrest warrant issued for Joe Biden the day he's
out of the presidency. We have to begin arresting Democrats,
putting them on trial, convicting them, and throwing.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Them in prison.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I know that's terrible do, but the truth is they're
not going to stop. They've been arresting these poor January
sixth people for years. They're gunning them down in Utah.
They're throwing pro lifers in prison. They're disbarring Trump's attorneys.
Trump himself may go to jail now, Bannon's going to jail.
These people are not backing off or slowing down because
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you're mad or I'm mad, and they won't.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
They're ramping up.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
They're ramping up because we refuse to respond in kind.
Without arrests, without Democrats going to prison, we cannot save
the country because we can't stop them from doing what
they're doing. They will never stop ever unless we make
them stop. I heard Andrew McCabe on CNN. He said
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this today, and I'll tell you what. I stood up
and cheered. He's of course lying, but I wish she
was telling the truth.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
He runs the risk of really dismantling and greatly incapacitating
the Department of Justice and the FBI. I have a
lot of conversations with former colleagues, people who are or
were in the intelligence and law enforcement community and may
have worked in the Obama administration other places, and you know,
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people are really trying to assess, like what is life
going to be like if Donald Trump wins a second term?
And on a very personal level, I mean, these are
tortuous discussions with their family members about whether or not
they have to leave the country to avoid being unconstitutionally
and illegally detained. I mean, people are actually worried about
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being thrown in jail or grabbed in some sort of
extra judicial detention.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Okay, first of all, let's be clear Donald Trump's not
going to do that. He's on social media still bragging
about building the FBI a new building. He's not going
to do that. If he was going to do that,
if Donald Trump got up today and announced that he
intends to arrest and imprison a bunch of FBI agents,
I would publicly max donate to his campaign. I would
call every rich guy I know in fundraise for him.
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I would make phone calls for him. I would knock
on doors for him. In my maga hat. That is
exactly what must happen in order to save the country.
Andrew McCabe is, of course lying, or his friends are lying.
None of these people have any fear at all.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And that is the problem.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Unless the bad guys start being afraid, we cannot save America.
We can't normal our way back into saving our country.
That's simply a fact. All right, all right now, I'm
a little wound up today. You know why I'm a
little wound up today. It's actually not the news stories.
I just keep knocking out eight hours of sleep and
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eight hours of sleep and eight hours of sleep.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
It's just consistent, over and over and over again. How
do I do that?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Well, if there's ever a night where I feel like
I'm not going to sleep. Maybe I had an afternoon
cup of coffee, which I shouldn't do.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I just reach for dream powder. Isn't that a cool
name for it? Beam?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
They came up with this stuff called called dream powder.
Now it's all natural. It's all natural, and the beauty
of that is not the taste, even though it's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Mine is cinnamon chocolate.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I essentially have a cup of cinnamon hot chocolate for
dinner or after dinner.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I have that before bed because it's natural.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I not only go to sleep, I wake up and
I feel great. I don't wake up and feel heavy
and groggy like you do when you take things to sleep.
Beam doesn't do that. You wake up, You're ready to go?
That sound good to go? Get some shopbeam dot com
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a bag or two of dream powder. You will own
it for life. Trust me, you'll keep going back.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
We'll be back.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Hunter Biden struggled with addiction. We are a country that
has been riddled with addiction. And you know a percentage
of this population has struggled with fent and al and
all sorts of opioids, and you know, this is addiction
is a real American problem. So the fact that they're
kind of they keep hammering him on being an addict,
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on having a gun, you know, and also on having
a gun, which Republicans really like guns. So I think
it's going to be I think this is going to
keep going. But I do think Biden has a really
good opportunity here to say the laws the law for everyone,
be at my son or Donald Trump. You know, this
is the way it works in this country.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, if Hunter Biden gets convicted, Joe Biden's going to
wait about fifteen minutes before he pardons it. But I
don't think he's going to get convicted anyway. I'm curious
what Margot has to say about it.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Mark joining me now.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Margot Cleveland's senior legal correspondent with The Federalist, and actually
you have a piece up about all this in the Federalist. Margo,
what do you say and what do you think?
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Well, first, I just have to at that SoundBite you played.
The reason they're focusing on Hunter Biden being an addict
is because that is one of the things they have
to prove in this case that he either is an
addict or that he was using drugs, and they've presented
evidence of both. The other thing is Republicans, Yeah, we
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love the right to bear arms, but we always say legally,
we don't want people who aren't supposed to be possessing
them possessing them. It's the Democrats who think all guns
should be gone no matter what. It's the violation of
the law that hunter Biden did that is the problem here.
But I'm with you. I don't think that the jury
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is going to convict him. I think all you have
to do is look what the breakdown in the city
was for voting, and it was actually higher pro Biden
over Trump in twenty twenty than in Manhattan. So I
don't see that we're going to see a conviction in
this case.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Okay, now you need to explain that to me, Margo.
How could there not be a conviction when it's my
understanding and obviously, as you know, I'm not the lawyer
you are. This is as black and white as it gets.
He lied on this form when I filled out many
times to purchase the firearm. He lied about it. It's
black and white evidence. Because this freakin' moron wrote a
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book about being an addict while he lied about the form.
It's dead right, So I mean Johnny Cochran couldn't get
him out of this.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
How could he get out of this?
Speaker 9 (25:30):
Margot, Well, there are two things here we have to
keep in mind. Is what is the idea of jury nullification?
The jury says, yes, we can and we will follow
the law. It doesn't mean that when they get back
in the jury box that one person won't convince the
others that look, yes he was an addict, Yes he lied,
but he's turned his life around. And really this is
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something that five.
Speaker 10 (25:54):
Years ago they didn't pursue. Why are they doing it now.
Speaker 9 (25:58):
It's a political reason that their pursuit doing it now,
and therefore we should let him off.
Speaker 10 (26:03):
So that's the idea of jury nullification.
Speaker 9 (26:06):
And then the second part of that is they have
to prove intent and juries aren't always the brightest bulb
in the box. And Hunter Biden's got some really good
attorneys who can try to convince them that in his mind,
he wasn't an addict because he was in rehab, in
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his mind, he wasn't a user, or he wasn't using
because he wasn't using.
Speaker 10 (26:33):
The moment he purchased the gun.
Speaker 9 (26:35):
Now the evidence is overwhelming that both of those should
be rejected, but again, the jury might decide otherwise for it.
But another thing I think is important to keep in
mind is, even if Hunter Biden is convicted of this,
it isn't somehow showing that we have one standard of
justice under the law Hunter Biden, those on the Bidens
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side of the equation, the folks in the DOJ, they
did everything they could to prevent this case from coming
to trial. And if you contrast that with what happened
with Donald Trump, it was all of the outsiders doing
everything they could to get a case against Donald Trump.
Speaker 10 (27:17):
So even if Hunter.
Speaker 9 (27:18):
Is eventually convicted on this or on the tax case,
it doesn't show that there's this one standard of justice.
What it shows is that the two standards of justice
failed to actually get the results that they wanted. They
wanted Hunter to walk on this, It just didn't fly
because of the whistleblowers.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Margo sentencing, What do you expect for Hunter? And I
might as well just go ahead and ask the follow up, now,
what do you expect for Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Right?
Speaker 9 (27:54):
So I would not be surprised if Hunter has a
sentence that does not require any jail time. There is
a lot of discretion under the federal statutes. In the guidelines,
I'd have to double check to make sure there's no
mandatory minimum of imprisonment by statute. If there isn't, then
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I would say there's not going to be any jail
time because he did, as far as we can tell,
has his addiction under control, which is a great thing.
As the sound bite said, there are a lot of
addicts in this country. It's a horrible thing. And if
he actually has it under control, that's great. And on
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this chart, maybe no jail time for Donald Trump. It
is impossible to tell, because this judge is so wacky
that I could see him ordering him Donald Trump to
go directly to jail, trying to keep him out of
the Republican Convention. It shouldn't be a matter of jail
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time because of the type of offense it was, which
was a made up offense. We're really misdemeanors that the
statueta limitations ran out. But it is impossible to predict
what this judge will do.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Margot, who's going to step in, if anybody, and save
Trump from this, overturn this conviction. I know Trump has
been harpened at the Supreme Court to step in.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Are they going to? Is that a good idea?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Surely someone's going to step in and toss all this
out right, And if they are, when are they going
to do it?
Speaker 10 (29:27):
Well, no one is going to step in.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
It's going to be a matter of Donald Trump's legal
team filing a challenge and whether he does this first
in the state court, which is the typical process, or
somehow tries to bring this in the federal court first.
I highly doubt that will happen because under the federal system,
you're supposed to exhaust all of your state court remedies
(29:51):
before you jump over to federal court. I could see
his attorneys trying to go straight to the highest court
in New York and trying to get them to do
an expedited appeal to throw the conviction out, and then
if that does not happen, that he then goes and
tries to get the Supreme Court to take it from
(30:12):
there based on due process claims.
Speaker 10 (30:15):
Because this is a state court conviction.
Speaker 9 (30:17):
The only way the Supreme Court can intervene is if
Trump's lawyers have a basis to bring it to the
court and they do a violation of Donald Trump's due
process rights would be a way to get it to
the Supreme Court. But there's going to have to be
at least one step in the state court system before
it gets to the US Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Okay, so Supreme Court's not going to swoop in here
and save the day in the next ten minutes before
I let you go, Margo.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
The US Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
It's very obvious to me from the outside looking in
that the commies in this country are running it up
against the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
They've threatened them all the time. They threaten them with legislation.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
One of these dirty street monsters tried to kill Kavanaugh.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
They're protesting in front of their house.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
It's very obvious they're going after the Supreme Court. Are
they going to end up being successful in that?
Speaker 10 (31:09):
They aren't?
Speaker 9 (31:09):
And this is really to me it looks like a
ploy to get votes. They're trying to make the Supreme
Court an issue, and they don't have.
Speaker 10 (31:19):
Anything else they can go on.
Speaker 9 (31:20):
With Joe Biden, he's been a failure on everything, inflation,
the economy.
Speaker 10 (31:26):
Foreign affairs, the border.
Speaker 9 (31:28):
So what are they going to do that the Supreme
Court is controlled by the president. And look what Trump
has done by appointing these right wing wackos who have
no ethics.
Speaker 10 (31:39):
So it's not going to work.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
But it's not going to work from the judicial standpoint.
It might have some vote getting by the political you know,
the political basis of it.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Margo, thank you so much. I appreciate it. All right, Doctor,
you remember her, don't you.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
She's still out there running her mouth on TV about
new things that you need to do. I need to
do new ways we can destroy the economy. Of course,
in the name of medicine and science. We'll talk to
comedian my friend Dave Smith next about that. Before we
talked to Dave, let's talk about the headache of a
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They're successful ninety nine percent of the time.
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Just call them and they'll get you out, all right,
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We'll be back.
Speaker 11 (33:33):
I'm making the personal sacrifices not to infect my parents
and my pregnant daughter.
Speaker 12 (33:38):
I worry about that because then it gives people.
Speaker 11 (33:41):
The option to say, well, bars and restaurants are open.
Then I can have twenty people over for Thanksgiving, and
so I don't like it to be any number. I
like it to be keep it to your immediate household.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I'm sorry, I've almost said. I almost forgot that the
interviewer used to sit so far away during the interviews.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
It's such a stupid time.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
And remember remember that evil witch you just saw there
About the time that interview wrapped up, she popped the
micro she popped the ear piece oute of her ear
and went and partied with all of her extended family.
That's that's the kind of people who run this country.
Now joining me now my friend comedian Dave Smith. He
hosts the part of the Problem podcast, which I would
highly recommend.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Dave.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I still get angry about all that crap I do,
but it's so ridiculous when I see the old videos
and just.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
The laughter comes out of me.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Man, what a what a ridiculous nation we turned into
because of a chess cold.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, oh, good to see you, Jesse.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
And it is even as you're playing that clip, like
I haven't seen that one in forever, and.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
It is just like it's like, was it all a dream?
Did that really?
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Did we really allow our nation to be so degradated
as humiliated that this by the way, you know what
I completely forgot about it is like, oh, yeah, remember
they had that death count up on the side of
sea and then for the entire year of twenty twenty
until Joe Biden got sworn in and then they just
pretended like it didn't exist anymore. But it was just
it was what a wild time and of you know,
(35:11):
watching the as I was just watching some of the
Fauci hearings. It's just amazing how much they all have
to walk away from it, like they can't. They can't
defend one inch of the insanity.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
No, the can'ts No one can.
Speaker 11 (35:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
All you get is either flat out denials or they'll
get this candy.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I can't say that word on a family show.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
That you get this response of well, nobody knew, which.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Is of course garbage. Tons of people knew.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
They were all the people who got censored off of
social media. Speaking of Burks here she was along those lines.
Speaker 13 (35:44):
Do you think there is any veracity to some of
the Republican accusations that there was an effort to discredit
the lab leak theory.
Speaker 12 (35:57):
I think early on people did take very definitive sides,
and it did divide along party lines, and we're still
suffering from that four years later in a whole set
of issues related to pandemic and pandemic preparedness.
Speaker 14 (36:09):
Sure, but on the laveleak specifically, you think that happened.
Speaker 12 (36:12):
I do think it happened.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
It was a love leak. We know they covered it up.
They just they lie about everything.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Yeah, and you know, as is often the case, they
kind of project this thing onto the Republicans that I
wish was true. Like they're like, well it it was
a partisan issue, and the Republicans were all talking about.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
No, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
The overwhelming majority of Republicans tucked their tail between their legs,
said yeah, yeah, yeah, LAB leak is a conspiracy, and
then proceeded to push lockdown policies just like the Democrats did.
There's a couple of exceptions, you know, obviously Dessanta's walked
back lockdowns in Florida.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Nome was solid on it the whole way through. But
that's it.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
Everybody, every other Republican was just as bad as the
Democrats on this. But look, they there's such an asymmetry
here where she goes, well, there was this tendency to,
you know, plant your foot in the ground and stick.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
With your side of the issue.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
It's like, yeah, but the asymmetry there is that everyone
from all of the halls of power, including both political parties,
the entire corporate media, and the tech overlords all decided
that you would have your life ruined if you talked
about this coming from the LAB, which was obvious by
April of twenty twenty I mean, I remember the first
(37:30):
time I heard it was in April of twenty twenty.
Was the first time that I heard that there were
three or four scientists from the Wuhan lab who had
been hospitalized in late November to early December with COVID
like symptoms. And that was about it for me. I
was like, Okay, well, then, obviously this is what happened.
They already knew that the bats that they thought had
(37:52):
it weren't within a couple hundred miles of the wet markets.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
It just none of it made any sense.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
It was obvious what this was from the beginning, and
their side covered it up because they funded gain and
function research at this lab, so it's quite a cope
to spin that as well.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Both sides just dug in like.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Okay, yeah, I forgot we all got it from a
bowl of bat soup. They actually sold that to us,
like I just can't.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I can't leave these people.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
And to reinforce Dave's point, almost every single republic and
there are a couple he didn't name, there ran Paul
Thomas Massey types, but almost every one of.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Them stood there the stupid mask.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
On bragging that about how vaccinated they were it was pathetic.
You know what along those lines, Dave, is that why
we're never going to get a reckoning.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
I'm not naive. I want one.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I want all these people rested and thrown in federal prison.
But I know this is never going to happen, and
I just I have this theory that it's never going
to happen because we would have to throw so many
from our side right in there beside them.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
Well, listen, first of all, you're absolutely right to point
out Massi and round Paul, who were both heroic during
the whole thing. There are a handful of Republicans who
are truly outsiders, and I don't just mean on the
COVID issue, but on other issues in general. You have
people like Matt Gates and Marjorie Taylor Green and people
like that who do not They're not simply with the party.
(39:16):
But I think the reality that we live under is that.
Look Donald Trump say in twenty sixteen when he ran
and won the White House, he was as much a
repudiation of the Republicans as he was of the Democrats.
I mean, he told Jeb Bush to his face that
his brother lied us into war. And Donald Trump was
(39:36):
he was essentially a third party candidate, winning from within
one of the major parties. But the problem that we
have is that the establishment of the Republican Party, like
not the six people we just named, but everyone else,
is indistinguishable from the establishment of the Democratic Party. And
whether you know, obviously COVID was a major issue, they
(39:58):
were identical on that. So when it comes to monetary policy,
foreign policy, government spending money, you know, like I said,
monetary policy, when it comes to the shadowy three letter
agencies who have a lot more control over our government
than our elected officials, almost every issue that matters. If
you run down the list, there is no daylight between
(40:21):
the establishment of the Democratic Party and.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
The Republican Party.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
And so yeah, in order to have any real change
in this country, or to even get an investigation, let
alone an investigation we could actually trust that would actually
shed some light on anything, You're going to have to
make good on Donald Trump's original promise of draining the swamp.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
And that's no small undertaking.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
And if Donald Trump's going to get that right this time,
he's going to have to be much much better at
appointing people around him, appointing real outsiders and not swamp creatures,
and he's going to have to be willing to kind
of Malay style take an acts to the federal government
that means abolishing, abolishing agencies, drastic cuts and government spending.
(41:06):
I'm not sure I've seen any indication that he's really
learned this lesson yet and he's up to it for
round two.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
But we'll say, oh, gosh.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
What if what if someone were to cut government agencies
to zero?
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Gosh?
Speaker 2 (41:19):
That would be glorious. You know what.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
I can't possibly let you go without playing this little.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Back and forth you had with Chris Cuomo. Here it was.
Speaker 15 (41:28):
And by the way, I don't like what people did
the Joe Rogan about ivermectin.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I don't who did it?
Speaker 14 (41:32):
No, no, no, yes you did, dude, find the quits
you shamed Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Hold on, let's play the quart.
Speaker 14 (41:42):
Getting injecting drugs for animals and horse.
Speaker 15 (41:46):
And people telling them to what person you know you
talk about like, you know, cancel culture and who to
shame ivermectin a de wormer.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Really, they are.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Shaming themselves, That's what it is. They're shaming them.
Speaker 14 (42:00):
So you're taking a d warmer right now. You can't
apologize for that this. You weren't being clear that it
was this.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
And you know that.
Speaker 14 (42:07):
Dude, you're being so dishonest right now. You were talking
about ivermectin, the drug. You were not talking about this
version of ivermectin.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Come on.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
I was responding to a.
Speaker 15 (42:17):
Situation where we were told that this is what people
were searching out to take and nobody knew what it
was going to do to them. Look, I'm taking the
drug right now. Obviously I don't think it's all poison.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
They I'll just let you have it, buddy.
Speaker 6 (42:34):
Oh man, I mean, look, I don't know what I
could even add to that that you didn't see right there.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
It was a very surreal moment.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
It's it's surreal for me because I'm you know, I'm me,
and here I get this one on one debate with
the guy who had the biggest show on CNN at
the time when all of this was happening, and I
was kind of curious going into it. I was like,
what is he possibly going to say? What could his
defense for all of this possibly be? And then it's
just that just lying through his teeth. Oh I never
(43:02):
did that. And then when the video comes up of
him blatantly doing that. He actually tried to say that
he wasn't demonizing ivermectin in general. He was just demonizing
people taking the veterinarian version of ivermectin, like as if
you got it prescribed for a horse and then you
took it, which obviously was never what him or anyone
(43:23):
at CNN was talking about. They were talking about Joe Rogan,
who clearly got it from a doctor and prescribed him
the people version of ivermectin like.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
It was just look, it was it again.
Speaker 6 (43:34):
It was very similar to me to Fauci in his
testimony yesterday when he was saying that, oh, you know
what was it that we we were just saying that
the vaccine stopped you from getting it or transmitting the
virus in the first wave. We were never saying it
through the second and third wave, even though we all
remember this wasn't that long ago. I mean, it's like
(43:56):
we all remember you saying this the whole way through
and never backing off of that, and then as it
became clear that the vaccine didn't work, you just doubled
down and doubled down again. It's just they're obviously liars,
But I did think one of the beautiful things about
that debate, and I'm very grateful to Patch Pitt David
for setting it up.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Was that I thought that was clear.
Speaker 6 (44:16):
You know, they did a poll afterward and they got
around thirty thousand people voted in it, and I took
ninety six percent.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Four percent thought he won the debate.
Speaker 6 (44:28):
And you as you know Jesse, four percent of people
are trouns, so he got the trunds vote, but I
took the rest. And that's a I just I thought
that was like, okay, well that's pretty one sided.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Everyone could see what's up here.
Speaker 6 (44:43):
Like these guys who had so much, so much like
belief and passion as they were shaming the rest of Americans,
but when they're actually pushed, they collapsed like the house
of cards that they are.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
I was wonderful to see.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
And plus if all his people were they are technically
undecided voters.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Anyway, day, thank you, brother, I.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Will see you very very shortly. We have lightened the mood. Next,
by the way, it is d Day. You like history stuff,
the first TV dot com slash history. You go sign
up there. I do all kinds of history specials. You
enjoy them, all right, light the mood next, all right,
(45:28):
it is time to lighten the mood. And I get
people asking me a lot these days, Jesse, what do
we show our kids on TV?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
I mean, you can't watch modern day television with all
the filth on there. What do you show them?
Speaker 1 (45:40):
When I was a kid, you know what my mom
showed me when dad.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Was at work.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
If I got to watch TV, older shows, I was
watching Andy Griffiths Show and Mary Tyler Moore.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
What can you show your kids? You'll find some, mister Rogers.
Speaker 16 (45:54):
Boys are boys from the beginning. If you were born a.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Boy, stay a boy.
Speaker 16 (46:01):
Girls are girls right from the start. If you were
born a girl, you stay a girl and.
Speaker 17 (46:08):
Grow up to be a lady. Everybody's fancy, everybody's fine,
Your body's fancy, and so is my.
Speaker 16 (46:19):
Only girls can be the mummies. Only boys can.
Speaker 17 (46:26):
Be the daddies. Yes, sir, everybody's fancy, everybody's fine, Your
body's fancy, and so is mine.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
So wholesome. You miss it, don't you? I miss it too? Anyway,
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