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June 11, 2024 43 mins

Hunter Biden has been found guilty on all gun charges. Will he go to prison and what does this mean for Joe Biden's presidency? Jesse Kelly gives his full thoughts and gets reaction from Josh Hammer and Buck Sexton. Meanwhile, the state of Missouri is going after the federal government in the legal department. State attorney general Andrew Bailey joins Jesse Kelly with an update. Plus, an appearance from Karol Markowicz

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hunter Biden got convicted.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
We have Josh Hammer here to talk about it, and
but Sexton here to talk about it. We have the
Attorney General of Missouri here to talk about it, and
Carol Markowitz.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
We're just going to do a lot of talking tonight.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
I'm right, all right.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
The news of the day.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hunter Biden got convicted of gun crimes. And first of all,
let's cover a couple of things here. Hunter Biden got
convicted of gun crimes for a couple different reasons. The
first reason is Hunter Biden obviously a criminal. Anyone who's
seen the laptop understands that Hunter Biden is into all
sorts of crimes, financial crimes, drug crimes, human trafficking crimes.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Is a criminal.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
And while I'm not a criminal, I do understand that
being a criminal comes with certain risks. You really don't
want to get caught, and if you do get caught,
it's important that you don't have evidence of your crimes.
Hunter Biden has kind of approached the criminal life in
a different way, and that every time Hunter Biden chose

(01:15):
to commit crimes, he would take not just pictures, but
video of him committing said crimes. And then after taking
these videos, he would take his laptop and he would
put the video recordings on the laptop. And then after
having this laptop with all of your crimes recorded on
the laptop, Hunter Biden gets to his laptop one day

(01:38):
and says, oh, my gosh, I need a firmware update
or something or whatever was going on. And so he
takes the laptop with all of his crimes on it,
and he takes it down to a laptop repair shop
and he says, hey, man, I got this laptop. Can
you fix my laptop? But wait, there's more. After recording
the crimes, putting the crimes on the laptop, and then

(02:01):
taking the laptop down to the computer repair shop, Hunter
Biden then just leaves it there.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
This kind of forgets about it. And I don't know
if you.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Know this, but dry cleaners, laptop repair shops, whatever, they
have rules where if you leave something there for a
certain amount of time, they get to take possession of it.
So again, I'm not a criminal mastermind, I admit that,
but in general, probably bad idea to commit all these crimes,
record the committing of the crimes, put them on.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
A laptop, and then hand them over to a complete
stranger and just walk away.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
In general, that comes with risks, and obviously today the
system is trying to take advantage of this. The system
has a credibility crisis, have a credibility problem. People can see.
They understand how evil this government has become. They understand
the DOJ is just the arm of the Democrat Party.

(02:55):
Now they work to arrest and imprison Republicans and get
Democrats off Scott free. David Weiss was a special counsel
in this case. Do keep in mind before we play
this little clip of David Weiss that David Weiss tried
to get Hunter Biden off with a slap on the wrist,
essentially kind of get him a little wrist slap and
blanket immunity.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
And the deal was so ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
The judge takes a look at it and the day
was supposed to get signed and says, wait what, No,
this is crazy.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
This is like an immunity deal.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
David Weiss did everything he could possibly do to get
Hunter Biden out of this, but the judge kind of
blew all that up, and then David Weiss had to
move forward. And today he's out there talking about justice.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
No one in this country is above the law. Everyone
must be accountable for their actions, even this defender. However,
Hunter Biden should be no more accountable than any other
citizen convicted of this same conduct.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Okay, you're gonna see a lot of this today. You
probably already have seen a lot of this today, dirty
communists running to the television talking about how this proves
our DJ isn't corrupted. Oh, this proves that we have
just a very bipartisan system. There aren't two tiers of
justice in this country, which is of course ridiculous if

(04:18):
you know anything about the background of this case. David Wise,
the FBI conduct and otherwise joining me now, my friend
Josh Hammer, to analyze this whole thing. Okay, Josh Hunter
Biden's officially a convicted felon. Apparently he's facing up to
a whole lot of years in federal prison. I have

(04:39):
my doubts whether that's the way this is going to go.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
But you know these things, I do not. What do
you make of all this?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
All right?

Speaker 5 (04:45):
So some quick initial thoughts here, So Jesse, a lot
of our friends in conservative commentary were dismissing this case.
And look, it is to an extent a show trial.
I mean, the special counsel David Wise, he's slow off
this thing. He deliberately refused to bring charges in all
the foreign influence pedaling the that Hunter was making eighty
three g's a month from Brisma, no doubt for his
expertise in Eastern European oil and natural gas assets, by

(05:07):
the way, but the fact that he was doing that
while orchestrating meetings between the Ukrainians and the big guy job.
Obviously we know by now that the special cancel did
not touch any of that. But the reason that I
actually disagree, and that I have been paying close attention
to this trial on my show America on Trial, is
because Hunter Biden was so obviously beyond the smallest sliver

(05:28):
of a doubt whatsoever guilty as can possibly be on
these charges. I mean, how do I know that?

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Well?

Speaker 5 (05:35):
One, because he literally admitted it during his memoir Beautiful
Things in twenty twenty one, which, by the way, they
actually read the audiobook from at trial in Hunter Biden's voice,
because he recorded the audiobook for that book for his
book publisher. I mean, and the fact that it was
right there on the laptop, which was the prosecutors, to
their credit, introduced it as evidence at trial, they said
over and over again, the prosecutors, no one as above

(05:57):
the law, and the jurors deserve a lot of credit here,
Jerseys are a lot of credit for doing the right thing.
So I am happy now, Jesse. Am I going to
come here and say that this is the end of
the of the two tier justice system, that America is
back to a healthy society equal just on their law. No,
you know, I am not quite that optimistic. I'm not
gonna put on my rose colored glasses that much. But

(06:18):
you know, Jesse, there are some folks on our side
I think are professional doomsdayers. They love kind of channeling
the prophet Jeremiah, the profit of lamentation, and they love
just saying that woe is me, everything is bad, nothing
is good. We should do a better job of just
taking the w of just sometimes just taking the win.
And this is a win. This is an unambiguous win. Now,
the obvious question comes in sentencing, which you teed up

(06:39):
quite nicely. There is he actually going to go to jail?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Okay, So whether or not he goes to jail, this
prosecutor did everything he could to try to make sure
Hunter Biden got out of this Scott free before he
then had to throw the.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Book at him, right, I do remember that, correct, Yeah,
totally so.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
The Special Council David why slow walked this thing for
years and years.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
He took way too long.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
I mean farah the Foreign Agents Registration Act, which is
the main foreign corruption the main law that Hunter Biden
probably violated with his Ukrainian, Romanian and Chinese dealings. You know,
we have either surpassed or we are rapidly approaching these
statute of limitations at this point, and that seems a
little more a little bit more than deliberate, you might say,
the Special Counsel David weis. By the way, what he

(07:25):
also did was he submitted this sweetheart plead deal. If
you recall, just under a year ago, last July last summer,
to the judge Mary Ell Norieika. That plea deal would
have gotten Hunter buying a guarantee not to serve any
time in jail. The judge, to her credit, and you know,
as a former law clerk, I had to say to
the law clerk's credit for alerting the judge. She peeked
under the hood and realized this didn't quite make sense,

(07:46):
so they rejected the plea deal. So this prosecutor definitely
does deserve some scrutiny here. On the other hand, like
I said, once the trial actually started, the prosecutor, you know,
they did everything they could. I mean, they introduced the
laptop itself at trial, the same laptop that the media
you know, two years ago was saying was Russian disinformation.
Now it's being used as smoking gun evidence by the
FBI at trial. Pretty crazy how no one is calling

(08:08):
for accountability of the media and the deep state and
big tech for that, by the way, But yes, they
obviously have hit the foreign stuff. And you know what
I am saying is that if Donald Trump wins a
second term come January twenty twenty five, there is nothing
stopping him that I am aware of, at least from
appointing a new Special Council to revisit these FARA and
foreign corruption charges that this Special Council declined to prosecute.

(08:31):
You have a double jeopardy clause in the Constitution, which
means that if you are found not guilty, you can't
then be tried guilty again. That's double jeopardy. There's nothing
that I'm aware of that says that a special Council
has looked and then decided not to bring charges. There's
nothing I'm aware of that that would then prohibit another
council from exercising his prosecutorial discretion to bring charges in
a subsequent administration.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
So Trump should do that come January twenty twenty five?
Do we think he will?

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Trump obviously is running for president, so he says things here,
says some things there.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
I can't decide.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
What Trump we're going to get if Trump wins the election.
Are we going to get the Sword of God who's
going to come in and start cleaning things out. Are
we going to get the Trump who just kind of
wants to be a normal president and return things back
to normal, which of course won't return anything to normal
at all. What is your sense on what we're going
to get if we get President Trump?

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Part two?

Speaker 5 (09:27):
You know, I hope that he has a chip on
his shoulder. I mean, I hope. I have to imagine
the part of the reason that he's running for president
in the first place, Jesse, is that he has a
chip on his shoulder because of the twenty twenty election
and all the shenanigans and all that there. But I
have to at least hope that he is willing to
proscue people like Hunter Biden. I mean, Jesse, you and
I have been to the people that have been singing
this same tune for many years now, which is the

(09:49):
rule of law in America is fundamentally broken. I mean
we see it on the open day in and day out.
It's not just Donald Trump. By the way, a lot
of people say, oh, it's just Donald Trump. Yeah, total nonsense.
You know, see Bannon here, Peter Navarro going to jail,
my friend John Eastman potentially going to jail, being disbarred
in California. These pro life protesters, as you're well aware of,
gaining the Face Act, this ridiculous statute.

Speaker 6 (10:09):
Throw them their way.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
They're trying to lock up grannies for peaceful pro life protesters.
Get the hag out of here. So you know, we
have to try to rebounce this pendulum and coming after
Hunter Biden for these very very legitimate and well founded
foreign corruption things that he has done in his swordid
not so kosher pass That is a very very good
thing to do in a Department of Justice. Come January

(10:30):
twenty twenty five. It is good on the substantive legal merits,
and is good for tit for tat mutually assured destruction
purposes as well. So I have to at least hope
that Donald Trump and his inner circle or considering it.
I was very encouraged when I saw recently my friend
John Yu, the former high ranking Bush DOJ official, who
you know. John's a friend, but he is a little
less aggressive, I guess you would say than me or
Jesse when it comes to this whole notion of mutually

(10:52):
assured destruction. Even John, you reached the conclusion that some
sort of prudential bloodying up of their noses in retaliation
has to has to come in order to get us
back to a neutral playing fields. When people like John
Yu are being red pills, so to speaking, kind of
realizing what's going on here, I actually am a little
optimistic that Donald Trump might actually just do it.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
How about that hopeful Thank you, Josh, I appreciate it,
my friend. All right, let's talk about the political impact
of this. Buck Sexton's going to join us next. He's
always thought they were going to hang on to Joe.
I wonder if what happened today has kind of changed
his mind a little bit.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
I'll talk to Buck about that I'm also, maybe I'll
ask him how he's sleeping, because maybe his mind isn't
working as well as mine is. I sleep great every night,
and if there's a night where I feel like I'm
not going to sleep, maybe I got work on my mind,
or had too much caffeine that day, whatever the case
may be.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I take dream powder. No, no, no, it's not a drug.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Don't want it all natural smelotonin things like that. Beam
is the one who makes it. It's essentially a cup
of hot chocolate, that's all. It tastes like it the
best hot chocolate I think I've ever had in my life.
At cinnamon hot chocolate. I pour a little in a
glass of milk, warm it up. I just sit there
and just sit on it. And it's the only thing
I've ever taken to sleep that doesn't make me feel

(12:13):
like garbage the next day. You know how if you
take something to sleep, a pial or something, you wake
up and you're like you're half dead. Your body feels heavy.
Not dream powder. You wake up and you're ready to go.
You want forty percent off in that ridiculous Get a
bag of dream powder.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
You'll never be without it. Shopbeam Dot com slash. Jesse
Kelly is where you get it. We'll be back.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
There's no way Joe Biden is going to remain. There's
no way these people in power are going to risk
that power on this dementia adult, old fool.

Speaker 7 (12:57):
This is about wall bear knuckle power when it comes
to getting the votes you need in the places you
need them, early voting, ballot harvesting, mail in voting, the
propaganda machinery of all that stuff, propaganda machinery.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
Of the Democrats.

Speaker 7 (13:15):
You bring all that together and you could elect to
turn up as the Democrat. And that's basically what they're
going to do again.

Speaker 6 (13:22):
I would give you.

Speaker 7 (13:23):
I don't know how to put this other than you know,
we gotta put a bet on this one. Whatever the
most expensive lobster and all you can Eat Scampy.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
Option is at red Lobster.

Speaker 7 (13:35):
You are going to be You're going to have to
pay for it for me if I'm right, and put
on my red lobster bib or a photo take it. Okay,
I want Jesse Kelly doing the bib for me of
red lobster All you can Eat Scampy, my man. You
know that stuff doesn't come cheap, so I'm just I'm
trying to get you prepared for this, and I will

(13:55):
make good on my side of the bed. So if
you are right, if you are right, you can go
Alaskan crab legs. It's been a good year in radio.
We could do Alaskan crab legs for you at Red Lobster.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
I actually forgot about the bib thing until Matches played
that back for Buck and I right now, dang it
all right, Buck, I am curious joining me now, of course,
Bucks Sexton, host of the biggest radio show in.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
The country, the Play Bucks Show.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Buck, I am curious. I don't need you to shoot
me straight here. You know we're friends. How confident are
you still in the wake up of the news today,
the Hunter Biden news Joe Biden is obviously not getting
any better at public speaking. How confident are you still
that they're going to ride this pony all the way
into the election?

Speaker 6 (14:40):
Well, look, I'm glad that you're starting it out that way.

Speaker 7 (14:43):
And let me also note that I didn't realize in
that clip the all you can eat shrimp. I apparently
am a prophet when it comes to knowing that Red
Lobster is going.

Speaker 8 (14:52):
To go bankrupt because I was like, that's expensive. Yeah,
it turns out it was so expensive that they have
to go into restructuring. Anyway, it's just the way, it is,
just the facts. I'm glad that you're not approaching me
like a degenerate gambler who's asking for just five more
dollars to put on a pony after he's lost everything.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Here.

Speaker 7 (15:13):
There is no way, okay, there is no way that
they're going to replace Joe Biden with anyone.

Speaker 6 (15:19):
Other than Kamala Harris. And I'm going to tell you something.

Speaker 7 (15:23):
I've talked to some people who are you know, the
ones that I always want to hear from on this issue.
Are they aren't insane, which means they like Trump, right.
I mean, even I'll give credit to Russell Brand, He's
basically like, if you're not crazy, you're going to vote
for Trump this time. Like, if you're not completely opposed
to like freedom and all that is good in the world,
you're going to vote for Trump, not Biden.

Speaker 6 (15:41):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (15:43):
The debate though, from people I know who are pro
Trump but not everything he does is perfect, they're a
little concerned about how this debate ends up going because,
for one thing, the expectations for Biden are so low,
and we all know that that he may come out
of the debate with a bump, and that may create
some momentum. And I think even beyond that, they're going

(16:07):
to ask Trump who won the twenty twenty election on
stage with you know, tens of millions of people watching,
and you and I both know that's gonna go trump'ster's not.

Speaker 6 (16:15):
Going to back off that one bit. So I think
Biden is banking.

Speaker 7 (16:20):
At all on the turnaround, or the beginning of the turnaround.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
I should say that will happen on that debate stage.
Do you know there are drugs? I found this out.

Speaker 7 (16:29):
There are things they can give people to like help
with mental acuity and stuff because of dementia.

Speaker 6 (16:35):
I thought that was just a thing that people talked about.
That's real.

Speaker 7 (16:37):
I've had doctors call into the show and say, no,
there are I forget the name of it, but there
are stuff you can give people.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
They'll give it to him. There is no They very
clearly have been giving it to him. Everyone remembers the
State of the Union. He was so hopped up on amphetamines.
He looked like Hunter S. Thompson up there. Everyone knows
they're giving him something to try to get him through.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
She looked like I used the wrong Hunter. How could
I do that? It was spoon fed for me.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
You know what, Let's go actually there, Fuck, Okay, Hunter
gets convicted today. It's not a small deal. We've all
accepted that Hunter Biden's a criminal. Everyone knows that because
he records his crimes. But it is a big deal
that the son of the president is now a convicted felon.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Or is it anymore?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Are we so used to all this stuff Trump's convicted,
Hunter's convicted that it's not that important.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:27):
I think that it doesn't move the needle.

Speaker 7 (17:28):
I think that people don't care, and especially because this
is the most really low level from a public interest perspective.

Speaker 6 (17:38):
I don't know where you are on this. I actually
think this law is kind of a garbage law.

Speaker 7 (17:43):
And I say that knowing that it's being used against
our enemies right now politically, So you know, that's to
the good.

Speaker 6 (17:49):
It is the law. So if you're gonna get Trump
on a business.

Speaker 7 (17:53):
Records error, you know from years ago, laws a law, right,
So that's what they're saying. But just as a principal matter,
I think that this this thing about like if you've
been using weed, you can't buy a gun, and you're
a felon if you do. Anyway, put that aside, I
don't think anyone really cares. The big stuff is this
selling influence to China, money laundering, you know, obviously, tax evasion,

(18:16):
failure to register as a foreign agent, which again I
don't think failure to register as a foreign Asian. I
didn't used to think that was a big deal, but
it was when it came to Trump and Paul Maniford
and all the rest of it. So if those are
the rules, right, they got to play by the rules too.
We have to make them play by the rules too,
which hasn't been happening nearly as.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
Much as it should.

Speaker 7 (18:34):
So no, I don't think I don't think it cares.
I mean, Hunter's not gonna spend it. You know, tell
me if you disagree with that any of this. Hunter's
not gonna spend a day in prison. So there really
no loss to him. I mean, everyone knows Biden's gonna
pardon him, and that's not it's funny that he says
he's not, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
But of course he's gonna pardon his son, so we'll see. Yeah,
of course he's gonna partner his son. You know what,
We're gonna switch gears. Because you brought up Old Trump
and the VP talk has been hot and heavy out there.
You ever Jena Governor Glenn Younkin on your show asked
him about the VP stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
This is what he said.

Speaker 9 (19:05):
Have you talked to Trump or his team at all
about being on this ticket potentially as a vice president?
Have they reached out?

Speaker 10 (19:11):
The reality, of course, is that I have been focused
on the Commonwealth of Virginia, and I stay focused on
the Commonwealth of Virginia.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I've got a.

Speaker 10 (19:19):
Big job, which I love. And also there's huge talent
in the Republican Party, and so of course know all
the names and the people that have been tossed around,
and I deeply respect all of them, and I think
it would be a great ticket with any of them.
And so I am very very confident in our ability
to work hard for the president to be competitive in Virginia,

(19:42):
and I think we've got a real shot at it.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
The most political answer I've ever heard in my life.
These guys there are such masters a saying absolutely nothing
but the VP thing Okay, Buck, you saw the short list.
I have some loves, I have some hates on there,
but it's not about me.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
What's smart for Trump? Who does he pick? Well?

Speaker 7 (20:02):
First, just on the young Kin answer there, that's not
the response of somebody who's going to be Trump's VP.
That's the response of somebody who's going to run for
president in twenty twenty eight. I think that's very clear.
He's not in the mix for Trump VP. I don't
think he wants that job. I don't think he would
take that job. Quite honestly. I think the SAME's true
of Governor DeSantis in Florida. On the list you have there. Okay,

(20:27):
I'm just going to lay it out. I mean I
can do a sort of a rapid fire on this.
Keep it up there for a second. JD Vance I've
said I think he should be the guy, and I've
said I think he will be the guy. Russ Belt voters,
white working class voters are going to determine this election.
It's going to be determined in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.
Georgia maybe two, but I mean those are the big three. Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.

(20:49):
JD Vans can speak to the white working class voters there.
I know now he's a fancy venture capitol guy who
went to Yale, but he grew up, as everyone.

Speaker 6 (20:56):
Knows, from hillbilly elogy in very sort of difficult white
working class circumstances.

Speaker 7 (21:01):
Anyway, Marco Rubio, I mean, I know Marco is fine.

Speaker 6 (21:06):
I got nothing bad to say about him.

Speaker 7 (21:07):
I think he's learned a lot since the days of
the Gang of Eight Senate bill, which was an amnesty bill.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
I think he burned his hand on that.

Speaker 7 (21:13):
I think he burned his hand trying to tangle with
Trump in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
But he's good on foreign policy stuff.

Speaker 7 (21:20):
The donors like him, He's slick, he brings the Latino
component to it. Tim Scott nice guy, not good on
BLM if you remember back in twenty twenty.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
And also he helped sink.

Speaker 7 (21:30):
A federal judge in a way that I thought was
not I did not like it. So I think that
Tim Scott is a very nice person from what I
can tell.

Speaker 6 (21:39):
I don't know him, he seems like a very good.

Speaker 7 (21:41):
Man overall, but I don't think he'll win many black votes.
So if it's about trying to get more of the
black vote. I just don't believe that will happen. At
least Dephonic good on Israel, but a liberal Republican, So
take that for what it's worth. He's worried about climate change?
Byron Donald, is he really in contention? I haven't really
heard that, but I have to look into Byron's record more.

(22:02):
You know, it seems like good dude. And then Ben
Carson a real doctor, unlike Jill Biden. Ben Carson is
an impressive man, a soft spoken, brilliant, very decent man.

Speaker 6 (22:15):
I can't see that being.

Speaker 7 (22:16):
Got because I think Trump doesn't really generally, I think
he doesn't want to have a brawler in the mix, you.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (22:22):
It's like you don't want two guys in the bar
who are ready to throw punches quickly. And so Ben
Carson is a co would be a calming influence on Trump.

Speaker 6 (22:29):
I think to the degree that that's possible.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, in a lot of ways, the VP should be
what you're not Buck. That's all we have time for today.
Appreciate you, my friend. I can't wait for you to
buy me red lobster. When they shove Joe Biden.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Out the door.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
All right, we have the Attorney General of Missouri.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
That's kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Before we get to him, let's talk about coffee where
we buy it.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Look, we all love coffee. Where do you get it?

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Though?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
I get mine delivered to my front door, So I
just to have my coffee beans delivered, and I buy
it from a company that shares and promotes my values.
Blackout Coffee doesn't just believe what I believe behind closed doors.
Hey Jesse, we're kind of with you, but don't tell
anybody they printed.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
On their merch.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
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Speaker 2 (23:56):
The FBI is now investigating whether those allege Hunter buying
emails are actually connected to a larger foreign intelligence operation.

Speaker 9 (24:03):
They may be related to a foreign intelligence operation, foreign
intelligence operation.

Speaker 7 (24:09):
Foreign intelligence, foreign intelligence, foreign intelligence operation.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
For all we know, these emails are made up.

Speaker 9 (24:15):
The information found on the laptop may be part of
a Russian disinformation campaign.

Speaker 6 (24:20):
Part of a Russian disinformation.

Speaker 7 (24:23):
Effort described by many intelligence experts as having.

Speaker 10 (24:25):
Hallmarks, all the hallmarks, rather.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
All the hallmarks of a Russian Russian Russian disinformation, Russian disinformation,
disinformation campaign.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
This is a classic example of the right wing media machine.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Interesting how all that turned out, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Joining me now, Attorney General of the great State of Missouri.
I cannot believe that Missouri has become like the tip
of the spear for freedom in this country.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
It's wild.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Attorney General Andrew Bailey, one of the good ones. Well,
it turns out it wasn't Russian disinformation. That's so odd,
because I was assured that it was.

Speaker 9 (25:00):
Yeah, more lies from the left, fake news at its worst,
designed to interfere with the election.

Speaker 6 (25:05):
We know in the case of Missouri v.

Speaker 9 (25:07):
Biden, the most important First Amendment suit in this nation's history,
we obtained in discovery ample evidence to support the notion
that the FBI was in possession of Hunter Biden's laptop
one year before.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
The story broke.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Knew of its authenticity and then worked.

Speaker 9 (25:21):
With social media moguls in Silicon Valley with increased frequency
in the days and weeks leading up to that story breaking,
planting the seed of doubt and injecting this idea that
it would be a Russian disinformation story. And then there
were secret communications between the FBI and big tech social
media companies on the eve of the story breaking, and
then the big tech social media, at the government's demand,

(25:42):
pounced in order to suppress the story. If that isn't
election interference, I don't know what is.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
It is election interference, and it speaks to something so
much larger than Hunter Biden. Honestly, that the president's son
is a dirt ball was not exactly in important thing
for the country. But we have a secret state police
agency that preemptively reached out to social media accounts to
have them censorous story they knew to be true, so

(26:11):
Joe Biden could win an election. If you actually take
in all that and realize what that means, where does
that leave us as a country. How do we exist
with a federal law enforcement arm that evil?

Speaker 9 (26:24):
Yeah, I mean, I think you're absolutely right. I think
it's the deep state at its worst. It's a deep
state that was committed to depriving the American voting public
of information necessary to make sound decisions at the ballot box.
I think that it has been amplified since President Biden
took office.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
Look, we've got to stop looking.

Speaker 9 (26:41):
At law fair in the context of individual cases. It's
as if we're looking at trees and pretending there's no forest.
But when you put the pieces together, you see that
President Trump and people on the right have been censored
by the federal government on big tech social media platforms.
President Trump has been hailed into civil court to be
sanction under civil law that's been abused in order to

(27:03):
obtain that objective. He's been forced off the ballot illegally
in several Blue states, and now he has been prosecuted
again a perversion of the law where the judiciary has
been complicit in the federal government has colluded with state
prosecutors to obtain a prosecution not supported by the facts
of the law that's legally specious and invalid on its face.

(27:26):
Law fair goes deeper than just the Manhattan District Attorney's
office or the Fulton County, Georgia District Attorney's office. This
is a coordinated effort by the left, in conclusion with
the deep state, to drive from public discourse and drive
from the public domain any competing viewpoint or political opponent.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
You are doing a lot of things there as Attorney
General of Missouri, and.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
I love it that at least some of our red
state ags are starting to get more aggressive.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Can you talk about Planned Parenthood?

Speaker 6 (28:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (28:00):
Absolutely, Look, planned Parenthood has a documented history in the
state of Missouri of placing the destruction of human life
ahead of the health and safety of women and children.
My predecessor, Josh Holly as Attorney General, uncovered that Planned
Parenthood was using a moldy abortion machine on women. I'm
not talking about a machine they forgot to clean and
left in the corner when they were actively using on patients,

(28:23):
refusing to comply with help and safety standards imposed by
the State of Missouri. My previous my immedia predecessor, Eric Schmidt,
uncovered that agents of Planned Parenthood refused to comply with
state statutes regarding retention of records of the procedures they
were performing and necessary notification of warning two patients before
they engaged in these risky procedures. And now in late

(28:46):
twenty twenty three, the Project Veritas video from the clinic
in Kansas City revealed agents of Planned Parenthood bragging about
trafficking miners across state lines without parental consent and without
complying with state mandatory notifatecation statutes, and forging documents in
the process to obtain abortions for miners who are victims
of sexual assault. My office launched a lawsuit to fight back.

(29:09):
We've got to.

Speaker 11 (29:10):
Eliminate plan Parenthood.

Speaker 9 (29:12):
They do not serve the best interests of the people
in the state of Missouri. And again, this is a
documented history of placing the destruction of human life ahead
of the health and safety of their patients.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
God, it's so wonderful to hear an elected official and
the GOP talk like this.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
How where are the rest of you?

Speaker 2 (29:29):
I'm very, very frustrated with the state of the GOP
in this country, and I know I'm speaking to someone
who's not part of that, but I'm very frustrated with
the inaction, this hands off approach to these people. As
if we can live and let live with people who
just slaughter babies like this and do things like this,
You can't live with these people.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
We have to get them out.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
No, I totally agree.

Speaker 9 (29:52):
And you know, at the end of the day, I
think there's a big difference between being academic law school
tough and being warrior tough. You know, when I joined
the United States Army for law school to fight in
the War on Terror, I took an oath to protect
and defend the Constitution in the United States against all
him enemies, foreign and domestic. Was proud to lead that
fight in the battlefields and the War on Terror, and
to come back home and be now leading that fight

(30:13):
in courtrooms across the state of Missouri, across the nation.
I think that this is the show me state, and
here in Missouri, results matter, and I'm not interested in
political talk. I'm interested in delivering wins for the freedom, sainty,
and prosperity of the people in the state of Missouri.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Let's talk about the student loan debt relief thing. Joe
Biden's doing something illegal, and it's really wild. He gives
speeches all the time now saying the Supreme Court said no,
but that didn't stop me. Now, maybe my civics are
a little out of whack, but I didn't think that
was allowed.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
What's happening with all this.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
Yeah, look, this is a constitutional crisis.

Speaker 9 (30:49):
You've got the president openly defying an order from the
United States Supreme Court to illegally, an unconstitutionally attempt to
buy votes on the ev An election in a key
demographic that he's losing ground to day in and day out.
He knows it's illegal, he knows the Supreme Court told
him no. And he is so unfettered, untethered from any

(31:11):
any kind of decency or reality, that he's out on
the stump bragging about his willful violation of the law
and the constitution.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Americans should be appalled by this.

Speaker 9 (31:19):
If President Trump had attempted this, the left would have
been appalled and they would have pilloried him. And yet
here President Trump gets a pass. Look, even if you
think that the president should redistribute a half trillion dollars
of wealth and saddle working families with Ivy League debt,
surely we can agree that there's a process in place
to do that. It's the United States Congress. The Supreme

(31:41):
Court last June handed down its decision in the first
iteration of this case and determined that Congress doesn't hide
an elephant and a mousehole. In other words, if Congress
intends to grant the president that kind of expansive authority,
the president has to point to explicit textual authority in
a federal statute. Congress has twice rejected such bills, once
in twenty nineteen and again in twenty twenty one. Nothing

(32:01):
has changed since the Supreme Court handed down its decision
in this case last year. Missouri is uniquely situated in
these cases because we have standing thanks to the fact
that we administer student loan payments and repayments through the
Missouri Higher Education Loan Authority MOHELA, which is an instrumentality
of the state that was a central centerpiece of our
win in the Supreme Court last term, and we believe

(32:23):
it'll result in the Court staying the President's plan in
the Eastern District of Missouri and our litigation.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Now, can you to wrap this whole thing up?

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Can you explain what you view the role of red
states going forward? Is It's very obvious to me that
at least under Joe Biden and Democrats, this government is
going to be hostile to a lot of people in
their way of life in ways.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
That it never really has in this country.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Red states, especially Red state ags more so than even governors,
need to protect their citizens.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Correct.

Speaker 9 (32:58):
Yeah, absolutely, Look, I think it goes beyond just open hostility.
I think President Biden and those on the woke left
threaten our very existence. Again, this isn't about freefare and
open debate. They want to censor the right. They want
to persecute and prosecute the right. They want to eliminate
from public discourse any viewpoint they disagree with, and they
think they can use the government to do that. It

(33:19):
is incumbent upon Red States to be the vanguard in
the fight against this kind of open attacks on our
way of life and on our system of government, and
our the very essence of who we are as the
United States of America.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Mister Attorney General, you please keep going, stay, stay right
where you are.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
We need you there, all right. Carol Markowitz is going
to join us next.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Andrew Cuomo gave some testimony behind closed doors about all
this COVID stuff. I wonder why behind closed doors. That'll
be interesting to talk to Carol in the moment. Before
we talk to Carol, let me talk to you about
putting your money where your morals are. This is something
we all struggle with myself included where do I spend
my money?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Where do I not spend my money? Because now that
corporate America.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Has chosen to get involved in this culture war, we
have to be purposeful about it. We can't fund the
people who are killing us. And if you have Verizon
AT and T your T mobile, you're funding the people
who are killing us. It's Pride month. Go look up
your cell phone company and see what they're doing for
Pride month. Switch to pure Talk. Pure Talk is the

(34:27):
patriotic cell phone company. Their CEO is a Vietnam veteran.
They love this country, they promote this country. You save money,
same five gen network and you save money. On top
of all that, not only are you putting your money
with someone who believes in what you believe in, you're
putting less of it in there.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
It's easy to switch Puretalk.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Dot com slash JESSETV go switch We'll be back.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Andrew Cuomo, remember that, Remember that name.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
He used to be the governor of New York before
he got knifed in the back by Latisia James and the.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Whole crew up there. No, it wasn't Republicans that took
God Andrew Cuomo.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
But he also has the distinction of murdering about fifteen
thousand of his own citizens, probably a record for any
American governor.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
He gave testimony today.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
About all his screw ups if we're going to be
very very kind, which I am not during COVID, joining
me now the host of the Carol Markowitz Show to
talk about that, Carol. So he gave closed closed door
testimony today. Behind closed doors. I don't know how to
say that. I'm not a dork lawyer anyway. That's weird
that a man who loves the cameras so much would

(35:43):
be testifying behind closed doors.

Speaker 11 (35:47):
It is weird, you know.

Speaker 12 (35:48):
During the COVID, the beginning of COVID, he was very
public about being on TV every day talking about how
great he's doing. And I lived in New York at
the time, and I couldn't help but notice that we
were having the highest number of deaths anywhere in the
whole world actually at that point.

Speaker 11 (36:04):
So it was interesting that he was heralded as his hero.
What concerns me about.

Speaker 12 (36:10):
CMO is that he is a snake, yes, but he's
very charming. He ends up somehow convincing other politicians that
he's capable. And I don't know what he said behind
those closed doors today, but I'm worried about it.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
I did see that he had doctor Witch on with
him on a podcast, and this is what they had
to talk about.

Speaker 13 (36:32):
The government had no capacity to enforce any of this.
You must wear a mask, and people wore masks in
New York. But if they said I'm not wearing a mask,
there was nothing I could do about it. You must
close your private business.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
I won't.

Speaker 14 (36:53):
Well, there was nothing I could really do about it.
It was really all voluntary, and it was extraordinary when
you think of it, that society acted with that uniformity
voluntarily because I had no enforcement capacity.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Carol, you lived in New York at the time.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Is that an honest assessment of how things were?

Speaker 11 (37:18):
It's so galling to watch him rewrite history.

Speaker 12 (37:21):
I know so many people who lost their businesses, who
lost their livelihoods, people who got tickets for the most
ridiculous things for not having food with their alcohol at
their bars.

Speaker 11 (37:31):
It was called the cuomos. Next you got fined for that.

Speaker 12 (37:34):
You got fined if somebody walked into your business not
wearing a mask and you didn't force them out all
of these things happened.

Speaker 11 (37:41):
I chronicled it over and over again. I seemed crazy
because I just kept writing about the same.

Speaker 12 (37:46):
Thing and how awful it was and how much damage
he was doing to my city over and over again
until I couldn't take it.

Speaker 11 (37:51):
Anymore and I had to leave. But it was a.

Speaker 12 (37:54):
Really crazy time, made all the crazier by a politician
who was so high on his own supply and just
being extremely erratic, not making any scientific sense, obviously, but
just being so celebrated and so heralded as some kind
of hero when he was destroying the city, when he
was destroying the state, and that you know, they still

(38:15):
haven't climbed out of it, and it's really sad to watch.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Carol.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
I did some talk today about Joe Biden, the Hunter
Biden stuff, about how this really provides the system with
the opportunity they needed, at least part of.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
It, to maybe push old Joe out the door.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
I know he has to go out voluntarily after the convention.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
I understand all the rules, but.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
It isn't just isn't this just the gold plate opportunity
for them to say, hey, Joe, it's.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Time to retire.

Speaker 12 (38:44):
Maybe, but I don't see how they get rid of
Joe and Kamala.

Speaker 11 (38:47):
So let's say they do get rid of Joe Biden.

Speaker 12 (38:50):
I still think they have a big Kamala Harris issue.
And I know, you know, we say things like, oh,
Democrats could just do whatever they want, and they do
do whatever they want.

Speaker 11 (38:58):
But I just don't see how to get rid of
both of them.

Speaker 12 (39:01):
So I think, and you know, it might we might
be getting to the point where Kamala might even have
better electoral chances than Joe Biden because he's pulling solo.
His approval rating is solo. Everybody sees he's like a
walking corpse. And so, I you know, I always thought
she was by far the larger liability, but now I'm
not so sure anymore.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, being passed over for the presidency would be a
lot for her to swallow.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
I did see the EU.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
They were kind of rejecting the old politicians to kind
of change gears here, and some of the dirty commies
in France were upset about it.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Here it was.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
All right, Carol, I don't speak French, I only speak American,
but they seem super upset about what's happening over there.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
What is happening over there.

Speaker 12 (40:01):
Well, I wouldn't say things have completely turned around in Europe,
but it's a slight, little light at the end of
a very dark tunnel.

Speaker 11 (40:09):
They had EU elections over the last few days.

Speaker 12 (40:12):
And in France, particularly the Marine, the Penn's kind of
right wing party, got double the votes of Macron's allegedly
centrist party.

Speaker 11 (40:22):
These are just terms that they use. I don't believe
in any of.

Speaker 12 (40:24):
This, and so it's a sign potentially that Europe is
waking up. A lot of the countries that had a
more conservative leaning maps sent to the Parliament in Brussels,
they had their own elections coming up, and France is
one of them. Macron just called for snap elections because
of all of.

Speaker 11 (40:42):
This, and they may end up with a more right
leaning leadership.

Speaker 12 (40:47):
The issues are things like unchecked immigration, high cost of living,
spending their money on nonsense. All of this kind of
comes together and you see the same kind of things
that we're facing here.

Speaker 11 (40:59):
I see a little bit of hope in Europe.

Speaker 12 (41:01):
I hope that they are able to continue down this path.

Speaker 11 (41:05):
There's still a lot of communists Jesse, Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 12 (41:07):
I think if all the right wing parties in the
European Parliament joined together, they would still only be the
second to the leftist. So let's not get too excited
too fast. But you know, the times they may be
a changing.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
It's not just France, it's Britain. It's a bunch of
countries overseas. They're tired of watching their countries get filled
up with barbarian hordes from other countries.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Are Americans there too?

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I understand everyone hates Joe Biden, or at least they
hate his policies. I get all that, But you know me, Carrol,
I'm more of a cynical type. I don't know that
I see America being as angry as the Europeans are
right now about it.

Speaker 12 (41:45):
Well, I would say that they're also in a far
worse position than we are. There are maybe ten years,
you know, ahead of us in terms of this unchecked
immigration problem. So in ten years we might also be
protesting in the streets.

Speaker 11 (41:57):
Who knows, But you know, I am hopeful things.

Speaker 12 (42:00):
Like Tommy Robinson's protests in Britain. He's attracting humongous crowds
waving British flag saying we're not going to take it anymore.
We'll see what happens. He has a big protest coming
up in at the end of July. That might be
a real game changer for Europe in general. If he
does manage to pull as big a crowd as he's
thinking he's going to pull.

Speaker 11 (42:19):
I think it is going to be a sign of something.
I don't think we're there yet, but we're.

Speaker 12 (42:23):
Also haven't hit the kind of rock bottom that Europe has.
Britain and the rest of Europe is in serious, serious trouble.

Speaker 11 (42:29):
I don't know that they could turn it around.

Speaker 12 (42:31):
I hope they can, and I hope that this is
the beginning of that.

Speaker 15 (42:36):
I hope.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
So thank you, Carol, come back soon. All right, we
have light in the mood. It involves dogs. Thanks. All right,
it is time to lighten the mood.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
To lighten the mood today, we're going to focus on
dogs because they always lighten the mood. Foe and the
jealousy of dogs is amazing. Whenever I get home from work,
the wife runs up to me, starts kissing on me
like she's only human. The dog will come stick as
nose right in there.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Hey what about me?

Speaker 15 (43:12):
This dog's jealous too.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
I'll see them all
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