June 18, 2024 • 36 mins
Brandon Darby breaks the news about Mexico’s new president and just how tough she's going to be on drug cartels. What level does the cartel operate in the united states? Questioning Fauci is questioning the social fabric of America… according to Fauci. What’s with all this gain-of-function research in China we were funding? The miscarriages caused by the covid vaccine.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of the
Jesse Kelly Show on a Tuesday. Remember, we have Brandon
Darby coming up about a half hour from now, gonna
ask him about Mexico's new president. Can Mexico even take
on the cartels if they wanted to? I have all
kinds of questions for Darby that's coming up this hour.
(00:37):
We're about to dig into all this phiz or Fauci,
all this stuff. Probably next hour I get the Supreme
Court stuff, emails, lots of other things. I want to
first walk down memory lane. Shall we take a stroll
down memory lane?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Please come alongside me, and let's just let's remember this.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Right, was the smiant over decades in the basic and
clinical biomedical research that allowed us to make a vaccine
in unprecedented time of less than a year that turned
out to be safe and highly effective.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
They are safe and so effective.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
We know that vaccines are safe and effective.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
That data is so compelling that these vaccines are safe
and effective.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
This is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You got all that you remember now? Kansas's Attorney general,
his name's Chris Kolbach. I should note I'm having actually
having him on my TV show tonight if you want
to watch me interview this guy on the first TV Anyway,
he's suing Pfizer. He's suing Peiser. Well, this is what
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the lawsuit states. Pfizer misled the public that had had
a safe and effective COVID nineteen vaccine. Pfizer said COVID
nineteen vaccine was safe even though it knew it's COVID
nineteen vaccine was connected to serious adverse event events including myocarditis, paracarditis,
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failed pregnancies, and death. I want to make sure everyone
understands this crystal clear. Now, it's not that nobody knew, well.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
No one knew.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Nobody knew. No, maybe you didn't know, maybe I didn't know.
Pfiser knew. They knew they had something on their hands
that was dangerous, but because of the despicable legislation Operation
Warp Speed. You remember that they also knew they were
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freed from liability. They could just pump this thing into
the arms of everybody, claim it was safe even though
they knew otherwise, and walked away with billions. Now, before
I get to the testimony on the Hill Fauci. He's
doing a whole lot of campaigning for himself on television.
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If you watched any of the major networks, you've seen
a whole lot of this. Just listen to this.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
The stated purpose of the hearing was to figure out
how we can do better, learned by our mistakes, and
be better prepared for the inevitability of the next pandemic.
And it was complete vitriol and out hominem. I mean,
there was nothing that even resembled that. And to me,
that's the thing that scares me because I think when
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you go down that road, I personally think, and I
say it in the book that I think that will
you know, undermine our social order and undermine the fabric
of our democracy. Even though it's in a health issue
with me, it's in other issues for other people.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
It'll undermine the social order and the fabric of our democracy.
Just meridate on that for a moment with me, and
think about what a statement that is. Think about that
this is as a human being who was happy to
give endless amounts of guidance to Trump about why he
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had to lock everything down and everyone had to wear
a mask. He was on the television every other day
telling people mask up, two masks, three masks. Love your mask,
Take your booster shop. Sorry about your heart attack, Take
another booster shop. That'll probably make it get better. Over
and over and over and over and over again, lied intentionally,
over and over and over again, and yet at tax
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on him undermine the social order. That's the kind of
That's the phrase I want to focus on before we
move on to the testimony of today. What does he
mean by that attacking me undermines the social order? When
you really think about it, doesn't that beg the question
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how do you view yourself on our social order? There
Fauci clearly he views himself as a higher up on
our social order. He views himself just by even saying
that he views himself as being a critical component of
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our social order. Look think about that. I like to
fake being a complete obnoxious jerk, even though it's not
really an act. I am an obnoxious jerk, But honestly,
it'd be a funny radio bit if I came on
here and let's say I was given Jewish producer Chris
a bunch of guff like I do, and I was
to say, Chris, you questioning me undermines the social order
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of the country. That's something I would do as a
gag for how important I am. You know, the oracle,
This human being just said that in a serious, earnest moment.
What does that say about how he views himself in
our social order? Think about this.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
The stated purpose of the hearing was to figure out
how we can do better, learned by our mistakes, and
be better prepared for the inevitability of the next pandemic.
And it was complete vitriol and out hominem.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I mean, there was nothing that even resembled that.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
And to me, that's the thing that scares me because
I think when you go down that road, I personally think,
and I say it in the book that I think
that will you know, undermine our social order and undermine
the fabric of our democracy.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Our social order and the fabric of our democracy, which
of course we're not. He's using the communist word that
the communists have put into our lexicon. But how do
you view yourself if people questioning you, criticizing you, undermines
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the social order? Who is that guy, hey, Chris, who's
that guy on the radio who says these people view
themselves as kings and Queen's who is that guy? He
sounds really smart. Yeah, not Glenn Beck. I mean, yes,
Glenn Beck's really smart. You know what, shut up, Chris. Anyway, morning,
Joe's out there defending falcip I'm.
Speaker 8 (07:16):
Just curious how frustrating it is to you that people
will go back and pick up something that you may
have said in March of twenty twenty, or something that
another health official or a politician may have said later
in that year, whether it's about masks or vaccines. We
didn't know. None of us knew where this was going.
None of us knew, like, for instance, how long would
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the vaccine work? Would we need one booster every five years?
We need one every five months. How frustrating is it
to you that people look back with twenty twenty hindsight
and judge you when you and the rest of the
world was in the fog of war.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
You know, it is quite frustrating, Joe.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
And that relates exactly to the answer to the question
just the moment ago where I was saying that people
really don't appreciate I don't blame them for that, but
they don't appreciate that we were dealing with a moving target.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
You're absolutely right, was it frustrating?
Speaker 7 (08:08):
It was terribly frustrating because people like to take things
out of context and do a gotcha.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
That's part of the reporting.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Any accountability for the people who destroyed lives is a gotcha.
Of course, he took a shot at Trump.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
From a health standpoint, he missed opportunities to use the
bully pulpit of the presidency to tell people to do
things that would keep them safe. That's what bothers me
as a public health person, as a physician who my
only care and goal is the safety and the protection
of the American public and their health.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
And for example, he could have said, when.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
The masks came out and the CDC said wear a mask.
Instead of saying I don't want to wear a mask,
he might have said, mask saves lives. I'll wear a mask,
and then all the people who follow him religiously would
have been wearing mask and it would have been the same.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah. Anyway, there was testimony today courtesy of the United
States Senate. They were dragging people in front of the
Senate and getting testimony on what happened. And we need
to pause on this for a minute. This stuff matters
a lot. Dragging these people into the public, finding out
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who lied, how many lies were told, what did they
lie about. Humiliating people like Fauci is a critical part
of maintaining a free society because people who attack a
free society should be attacked in return by that society.
Meaning if Fauci is going to use his position to
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destroy your child's education, for instance, or not let you
bury your father, then Fauci deserves scorn, shame, brutal testimony. Frankly,
let's be honest, he deserves prison. Although I know he's
never going to go to prison. I'm not naive, but
accountability is so important, and that used to be something
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that was built into this country. If you were a
military leader and you just screwed up, it's not even intentional.
If you screwed up on accident, you very likely would
have to give testimony about that. You might be court
martialed for mistakes. Now we get the Hey, nobody knew,
so let's hear from these witnesses.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Next.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
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Speaker 3 (10:44):
Remember to email us. We love your emails. Jesse at
Jesse kellyshow dot com. I'm gonna get to so many
of those tonight, we do. I have Brandon Darby coming
up ten minutes from now, and I have to finish
all this Pfizer's stuff and moll deal O the Supreme
Court stuff. But there's gonna be twenty emails Chris, where's
my tally at the on the email list for tonight?
Speaker 9 (11:06):
One?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
That's not right. You missed like five or something like that.
You probably weren't paying attention. You'll give me two, Thank you, Chris.
At least there's been two. At least two anyway, twenty
by the end of the night. Back to what we
were talking about. So remember, remember when we started to
learn about gain of function research. I don't want to
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speak for you. I didn't know anything about gain of
function research before COVID, and then we start to find
out what it is. Hold on we are we're funding
We're funding scientists who are intentionally turning a virus more deadly.
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Why would they do that? That was a question I
always ask these people when they came on. Why would
you get in a lab and make a virus deadly
and more contagious on purpose? In fact, that's a very
good question, Chris. Why do you have to do it
in China? If this is so important, if this is
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all on the up and up, why are we doing
it in Wuhan? And remember the answer we got. We
were told repeatedly, Hey, hey, the only gain of function
research we do is so it can make vaccines more effective.
That's what we were told repeatedly. Well, we have to
know how to treat these scenes, we have to know
how to vaccinate for these things. Listen to this guy today.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
It's important to emphasize that the research in question has
no zero civilian practical applications. Gain of function research on
potential pandemic pathogens is not used and does not contribute
to the development of vaccines, and is not used and
for and does not contribute to the development of drugs.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
So again that ration, I.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Let him finish that, Senator Ron Johnson questioning him. So
all that all that was a lie. You had to
do this gain of function research because that's the only
way we're going to know how to treat or vaccinate.
But but you.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Lie, now for all this research is exactly that in case,
we have to respond in case. But that's the rationale
in case we have to respond to a bioweapon attack. Okay,
we need a defense mechanism. So that's that's the reason.
For example, the Defense Department he has spent forty two
million dollars or funded Eco Health Alliance for forty two
million dollars in USAID for fifty three million.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
So the current definition is research that is reasonably anticipated
to increase either the transmissibility or the virulence of a
potential pandemic pathogen. That research does not contribute to developing
countermeasures against potential because that's that's the rationale they use.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, so they lied about all that. What else did
they lie? You know what?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I remember?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I remember the lengths they went to to try to
absolve China from any responsibility for this whole thing. And
I do want to remind everybody. I want to remind
you China knew about this. They shut down air travel
within their own country, no more flying. Hey, you can't
fly from here to there in China. Yet they allowed
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air travel to continue to the United States of America.
Did you know that? You remember that part? And remember
what we were told. We were told that it came
from a wet market, and you were all wait a minute,
what's a wet market?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Is it raining?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I don't understand. And they made it sound like there's
these exotic Chinese markets straight out of an Indiana Jones movie,
and you could just get COVID from a bowl of
bat soup. Remember all that? Oh, definitely a second.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Let's look at the market data.
Speaker 10 (14:54):
No infected animals in the market or the supply chain
were infected. No infected wild life life vendors who are
had SARS. All human infections are the non ancestral lineage B.
The environmental specimens with animal DNA have no SARS too.
One venderhead animals from southern China, where SARS two came from.
But this vendor and his animals are negative for SARS too.
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Now only one of fourteen environmental samples with.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I'm too board. That's too much nerd talk. But that
sounds really bad. That sounds like we were lied to.
And speaking of being lied to, this is Obgyn Kimberly
Biss is her name. How many women and this is
an awful painful subject. How many women out there lost
their babies because of authors?
Speaker 11 (15:42):
Are hay The government employed are involved in the vaccine
committees to approve vaccine. So this article was published in
June of twenty twenty one. They had a cohort, I
want to say, at maybe eight hundred and twenty seven women,
and they said in their article that the miscarriage rate
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was normal because it was thirteen point six percent. But
the problem with that is that they didn't do the
statistics right because they used the whole cohort of women,
which were you know, either first, second, or third trimester
of pregnancy. Miscarriage is defined as a pregnancy lost prior
to twenty weeks, which would be the halfway mark of
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a pregnancy. If you lose a baby after twenty weeks,
that's a still birth. So when you actually took the
twenty week and under pregnant women in that study and
used the correct math, the miscarriage rate was eighty three percent.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Eighty three percent. How many mothers and fathers would be
mothers and fathers don't have their babies because of this
poisonous filth. And this is why I won't let it go,
and this is why I will not forget, and I
will not forgive. All Right, all right, we have Brandon
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Fighting for your freedom every day the Jesse Kelly Show.
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Speaker 3 (18:34):
And joining me now as he often does, my friend
Brandon Darby Cartel Chronicles. Bright Bard knows more about the
border and the cartels and illegal immigration than anything else.
You know what set all that crap aside for a moment, Brandon.
I hate to sound like an old man, but doesn't
that make you miss the eighties? I was trying to
explain to my kids because I'm starting to show them
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eighties movies now and they're saying, Dad, they're so different
and they're awesome. Life was just different, then.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Was it it?
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (19:05):
I think it was Jesse. You know. The good news
is is eighties nights are really popular, so you can
relive the eighties a little bit. You can. You know
several auto traders online you can find cars from the eighties.
I mean, you could really live it up if you
want to. I like eighties nights. I go, I go
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to eighties nights wherever I go. I always look for
an eighties night. I love to dance so so, you know,
get a little eighties every so off and watch a
couple of eighties movies. You know, it's not bad.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
No, it's not bad.
Speaker 9 (19:39):
Gosh, I get a trapper keeper. I'd a friend of
your wife's name. I'm the trapper keeper.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Trapper keeper.
Speaker 11 (19:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I would enjoy dancing every now and then, but the
wife says it's like dancing with the grizzly bears, So
I generally try not to do that. Either way. Let's
talk about some cartel stuff. Okay, Brandon, Obviously things are
ramped up a bit at the border. It looks pretty
obvious to me anyway. The administration is trying to hoover
up as many of these people into the country as
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humanly possible in anticipation of Joe possibly losing the election.
But I don't want to speak out of turn. Is
that what you're seeing?
Speaker 9 (20:16):
Yeah? I think, you know. I think there's two levels
going on here on both sides. Right, But we'll talk
right now about Democrats, since they're the ones who control
the administration. I think on a normal everyday street level,
you know, Democrats who consume largely Democratic Party propaganda, right
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the mainstream media. I think that they genuinely think that
they're just caring for people, trying to be helpful. I
don't think that they're, you know, have the most evil intentions,
but I do think on a higher level, I think
that the Democratic Party is intentionally bringing people into the country.
And you know, let me put it this way, if
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they were predominantly Republican, I do not think Democrats. Democrats
would would be allowing them in, right. So I think
that ultimately it turns Red States blue to fill our
country with millions of people who are impoverished and who
need to live off of a system that they will
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then want to perpetuate because they benefited from it that
other people should too. I think that's where we are.
I think leading up to elections, what Democrats do is
they make deals with Mexico, and Mexico starts cracking down
a little bit, making the numbers slow down, so that
it looks like the Democratic administration is doing something about
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the border. But in reality they are not doing anything sustainable,
in anything long term or anything other than just simply
giving favors to Mexico. So Mexico, you know, craps down
a little bit ahead of an election.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Brandon let's actually focus on Mexico. This is really the
main reason I wanted you to come on, new President.
I never know. It's hard to figure out what another
country's new leader is and what they're not. I haven't
read very much. That's very complimentary of this woman, but
I don't know. You know, who is this woman? What
is this woman? What should we anticipate from her?
Speaker 9 (22:17):
I think you're going to anticipate much of what you've
much of what you've seen with the previous Mexican president.
We have to keep in mind that that no one
really ran strongly against her, No one really ran strongly
against her, because it's just a continuation. It's Amler's handpicked person,
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the Amber being the actual current Mexican you know, president
before the female takes over, Miss Claudia Shandam. But we're
going to see a continuation of that. We have leftists,
you know, Mexico is a very left leftist country, a
very left leaning country. You're going to see a continuation
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of buddying up with China and pitting and playing China
against the US to get benefit from Mexico, which is
what we already have going on. Like we've said this
on your show before, you know, when when Mexico's you know,
communications and telecom infrastructure is being built, the US did
not get that. China got it. Huahwe got it, you know.
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And so you have China trying to basically ultimately have
a satellite or a subservient country on our southern border,
and you have the US doing a really bad job,
the US State Department doing a really bad job at
competing with China for for it's interests in Mexico. So
you're going to see more of that. I think you're
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going to see more of the same policies towards drug cartels.
I don't think they're going to crack down. I think
that it's going to be much of you know, hey,
as long as you guys don't get too out of line,
we're not going to do anything about it. Never we
do anything about it. You know, there's a lot of violence,
and that's on us. You know that they look at
it like liberals look at things. They look at guns
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like liberals look at guns. They look at crime like
liberals generally look at crime. I'm sure there's some sub
you know, small subset of liberals who are pro law
enforcement and don't look at it that way. I'm sure
you can find some Union guys up in the North
or something, or Minnesota or Michigan or whatever who aren't
anti law enforcement or who are pro law enforcement, who
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are liberals, but generally speaking, they you know, they have
a weird way of looking at stuff. It's you know,
when Mexico did crack down and when the US did
crack down on cartels, after they killed a d agent
named Kiki ki Arena and they tortured him and brutalized them,
kidnapped him, you know, the Mexico blamed the US for
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the increased violence simply because we went after the bad
guys who were hurting our people. Yes, there's going to
be more violence. Whenever you're shooting at bad guys, more
p will get shot, right, But ultimately, in the long term,
you know, Mexico has decided that it's largely okay with
being a corrupted narco state. The United Nations hasn't listed
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as a fragile state, which has not failed, but it's
getting pretty close, right, and Mexico is just going to
continue that.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Speaking with Brandon Darby Cartel Chronicles, Brandon, I do this
to you a lot, but I have a couple other
questions I want to follow up with. Do you think
you can hang on for just five to ten more
after this so I can ask a couple questions about
their ability to crack down what they can do with
the cartails. I find this fascinating. Do you have ten?
Speaker 9 (25:40):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Okay, we will be right back. I'm going to break
a little bit early. We'll be right back with Brandon Darby.
Cartel chronicles, have more. I have questions. It's what a
journalist would do. Hang on.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Is he smarter than everyone he knows? Does he think so? Yeah?
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Speaker 2 (26:03):
It is The Jesse Kelly Show on a Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Back with Brendon Darby, our cartel illegal immigration expert talking
about the border. Okay, Brandon, we have this new president
in Mexico and you brought up cracking down on the cartels.
Let's just set her aside for a moment. Politically, is
it possible for Mexico to get a president in administration
that would legitimately in serious ways go after the cartels
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or do they control too much of the country that
that's just not something that's realistically going to happen.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
Well, you know, it's not realistically going to happen. You know,
I'm an advocate and I have been for many years
of the US taking independent action to deal with drug cartels. No,
that doesn't mean sending in Marines, but it does mean
probably allowing our intelligence community, you know, some of whom
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would of which would be US military in small numbers,
right to take specific targeted actions against individuals in Mexico
and networks in Mexico who are hurting American citizens. I
think that that is something we would ultimately have to do.
I think, you know, finding people in Mexico who are
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friendly toward our interests, whether that's because of idealistic reasons
or because they want US citizenship, or because they want money,
and getting those people to do the bidding of our
nation is probably where we are as a country with
Mexico as neighbors. Depending on Mexico. I do not believe
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that another nation should be allowed to poison and send
killers into our country and get away with it simply
because the drug lord is connected politically and economic to
Mexico's leadership. I think we should take action. I'm very
hawkish about that. That said, I'm critical of people saying
we should send in our military and take it over. No,
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I don't think so. I think we should. We should basically,
you know, either obtain the individuals who are hurting us
and responsible, or we should, you know, we should make
sure that they are pushing up daisies. I'm perfectly okay
with that. That is where what we ultimately will have
to do, even if we don't want to do that
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right now as a nation, that's what we'll have to do.
You have to remember, Jesse, that the drug lord is
just a replaceable figurehead. In Mexico being a narco state,
you have these circles of corruption in that are politicians,
industry leaders, financiers, you know, financial leaders who are ultimately connected.
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They're more than happy when we take out a El
Chapo or you know, Gato or you know whomever the
particular cartel head is, because another one just pops in
that person's place. It's the circle of corruption behind the
drug cartels that are our real enemy. And I think
that we've done well at identifying who some of those
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people are. You just go to our Treasury Department's blacklists
and see what you know, who we've identified. But I
think ultimately, you know we as a nation will have
to take independent action, possibly through people in Mexico, in
order to you know, we should probably treat it like
the threat that it is and deal with it the
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way that our intelligence community and certain parts of our
military deal with with such threats in other countries.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Well, speaking again with Brandon Darby Cartel Chronicles. Okay, Brandon, finally,
to what level does the cartel operate inside the borders
of America? I mean, you know so much more than
I know. I personally know of a suburb right here
in the Houston area where cartel leaders from opposing cartels
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reside and the local cops know they reside there, and
there's an unsmoking agreement no violence here. Y'all have your
suburban home. To what level are these organizations operating, not
in Mexico but here?
Speaker 9 (30:20):
Well, good question, JESSEI we have to remember, and we
talked about Doug Cartel, we're really talking about thousands of
independent criminal groups, some of whom are under the banner
of like the Sinaloa Federation. We call them the Sinaloa Cartel.
But those are particularly hundreds of criminal groups who all
have their own names, but we call them Sinaloa cartel.
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So in Central Mexico, many of the cartel leaders are
Mexican nationals. Along our southern border, the majority of the
cartel leadership are actually US citizens people of dual citizenship
who live in the United States. So these guys have
our our country divvied up into their territories. Right. So,
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for instance, if you're in South Texas, if you're if
you're east of Zappota, Texas, you're you're very strongly in
Gulf cartel territory. When you get west of Zappota, Texas
all the way to roughly del Rio, you're in lifts
at this cartel c d n's territory. You know, they
call themselves CDM. We still call them lifts at us
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because we don't allow them to rebrand and you know,
shirk off all the bad things they've done historically. When
you go west of that, I mean, go down the line,
love it. Texas is mostly a cartel out of out
of Warres' territory. You know, Washington State and Portland, Oregon,
all that region up there largely belongs to the you
know groups in Jalisco and in mitchell Acan. So you know,
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Alabama has a lot of influence and territory of a
Guatemala Guatemalan criminal group. So so our country is divvied
up big time, and cartels have their territory here just
like they do there. A lot of times they get
US gang members, US gangs, US criminal groups, US prison
gangs to do their bidding in our country, but make
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no mistake, the calls for what to do are coming
from Mexican cartels. And and that's something that most Americans
don't realize, uh, is that that are the prize is
the United States. Right, we're there. We are the larger,
largest buyers of the drugs that they sell. We are
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the largest takers of the migrants that they traffic. So
their entire economic engine is impossible without also having US buyers.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, that is the sad freaking fact of it. Brandon Darby,
Cartel Chronicles, thank you so much for giving us a
few minutes and making it smarter than I I appreciate
it very.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
Much, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Look, that's why I asked that last question because every
time I talk to one of these guys border patrol
guys something like that, and I talked to him about
the different cartels and the different areas they have the
country already divided up. And as you heard from him,
he's talking about Washington, Oregon. We're not just talking about
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this in just a Texas, Arizona, New Mexico thing, southern
California thing. They operate here, they operate here in when
it comes to dealing with this fentanyl crisis. Look, when
you have one hundred thousand Americans dying of anything, anything,
it's a huge deal. One hundred thousand Americans a year
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are now dying of fentanyl. We're not even going to
talk about the largest slave trade and the history of
the world on our southern border right now, not yesteryear. Now,
that's happening right now. But the problem is you probably
followed along with That's why I was asking the questions
I asked. So much of this corruption and crime and
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everything it's woven into not just the very government of Mexico,
it's woven into the United States of America. And how
do you get how do you get a cancer out
when it's in the bones? That isn't necessarily something that's easy,
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And sometimes I hate to say, you don't want to
be Debbie Downer, sometimes it's not even necessarily something that's possible.
Is it possible to totally fix this problem? You know,
it's easy on the campaign trail to just say we're
gonna go set in the Marines again. That's why I
was asking the questions. It's so much more difficult than that.
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And it's gonna be a generational thing. We'll see how
she goes. All right, So the Supreme Court, we already
did the COVID fizor stuff and whatnot. But the Supreme
Court has this thing every now and then when they're
about to have make a ruling or have an opinion
of an opinion made public. Every now and then they
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will put barriers up around the court itself. That's when
they think whatever opinion, whatever ruling they're going to pass
down might be a little spicy and a little controversial. Well,
the barriers just got put off, did you know that?
You know what's coming. Let's do a little Supreme Court
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talk and some things surrounding that in just a moment
before we get to that. That may be a lot
to take in, and you know things are about to
get a little spicy in the country. That's fine. You've
been taking your chalk, haven't you, Or are you still
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Supreme Court talk next
This is a Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of the
Jesse Kelly Show on a Tuesday. Remember, we have Brandon
Darby coming up about a half hour from now, gonna
ask him about Mexico's new president. Can Mexico even take
on the cartels if they wanted to? I have all
kinds of questions for Darby that's coming up this hour.
(00:37):
We're about to dig into all this phiz or Fauci,
all this stuff. Probably next hour I get the Supreme
Court stuff, emails, lots of other things. I want to
first walk down memory lane. Shall we take a stroll
down memory lane?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Please come alongside me, and let's just let's remember this.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Right, was the smiant over decades in the basic and
clinical biomedical research that allowed us to make a vaccine
in unprecedented time of less than a year that turned
out to be safe and highly effective.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
They are safe and so effective.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
We know that vaccines are safe and effective.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
That data is so compelling that these vaccines are safe
and effective.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
This is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You got all that you remember now? Kansas's Attorney general,
his name's Chris Kolbach. I should note I'm having actually
having him on my TV show tonight if you want
to watch me interview this guy on the first TV Anyway,
he's suing Pfizer. He's suing Peiser. Well, this is what
(01:49):
the lawsuit states. Pfizer misled the public that had had
a safe and effective COVID nineteen vaccine. Pfizer said COVID
nineteen vaccine was safe even though it knew it's COVID
nineteen vaccine was connected to serious adverse event events including myocarditis, paracarditis,
(02:09):
failed pregnancies, and death. I want to make sure everyone
understands this crystal clear. Now, it's not that nobody knew, well.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
No one knew.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Nobody knew. No, maybe you didn't know, maybe I didn't know.
Pfiser knew. They knew they had something on their hands
that was dangerous, but because of the despicable legislation Operation
Warp Speed. You remember that they also knew they were
(02:40):
freed from liability. They could just pump this thing into
the arms of everybody, claim it was safe even though
they knew otherwise, and walked away with billions. Now, before
I get to the testimony on the Hill Fauci. He's
doing a whole lot of campaigning for himself on television.
(03:01):
If you watched any of the major networks, you've seen
a whole lot of this. Just listen to this.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
The stated purpose of the hearing was to figure out
how we can do better, learned by our mistakes, and
be better prepared for the inevitability of the next pandemic.
And it was complete vitriol and out hominem. I mean,
there was nothing that even resembled that. And to me,
that's the thing that scares me because I think when
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you go down that road, I personally think, and I
say it in the book that I think that will
you know, undermine our social order and undermine the fabric
of our democracy. Even though it's in a health issue
with me, it's in other issues for other people.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
It'll undermine the social order and the fabric of our democracy.
Just meridate on that for a moment with me, and
think about what a statement that is. Think about that
this is as a human being who was happy to
give endless amounts of guidance to Trump about why he
(04:08):
had to lock everything down and everyone had to wear
a mask. He was on the television every other day
telling people mask up, two masks, three masks. Love your mask,
Take your booster shop. Sorry about your heart attack, Take
another booster shop. That'll probably make it get better. Over
and over and over and over and over again, lied intentionally,
over and over and over again, and yet at tax
(04:31):
on him undermine the social order. That's the kind of
That's the phrase I want to focus on before we
move on to the testimony of today. What does he
mean by that attacking me undermines the social order? When
you really think about it, doesn't that beg the question
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how do you view yourself on our social order? There
Fauci clearly he views himself as a higher up on
our social order. He views himself just by even saying
that he views himself as being a critical component of
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our social order. Look think about that. I like to
fake being a complete obnoxious jerk, even though it's not
really an act. I am an obnoxious jerk, But honestly,
it'd be a funny radio bit if I came on
here and let's say I was given Jewish producer Chris
a bunch of guff like I do, and I was
to say, Chris, you questioning me undermines the social order
(05:39):
of the country. That's something I would do as a
gag for how important I am. You know, the oracle,
This human being just said that in a serious, earnest moment.
What does that say about how he views himself in
our social order? Think about this.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
The stated purpose of the hearing was to figure out
how we can do better, learned by our mistakes, and
be better prepared for the inevitability of the next pandemic.
And it was complete vitriol and out hominem.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I mean, there was nothing that even resembled that.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
And to me, that's the thing that scares me because
I think when you go down that road, I personally think,
and I say it in the book that I think
that will you know, undermine our social order and undermine
the fabric of our democracy.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Our social order and the fabric of our democracy, which
of course we're not. He's using the communist word that
the communists have put into our lexicon. But how do
you view yourself if people questioning you, criticizing you, undermines
(06:56):
the social order? Who is that guy, hey, Chris, who's
that guy on the radio who says these people view
themselves as kings and Queen's who is that guy? He
sounds really smart. Yeah, not Glenn Beck. I mean, yes,
Glenn Beck's really smart. You know what, shut up, Chris. Anyway, morning,
Joe's out there defending falcip I'm.
Speaker 8 (07:16):
Just curious how frustrating it is to you that people
will go back and pick up something that you may
have said in March of twenty twenty, or something that
another health official or a politician may have said later
in that year, whether it's about masks or vaccines. We
didn't know. None of us knew where this was going.
None of us knew, like, for instance, how long would
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the vaccine work? Would we need one booster every five years?
We need one every five months. How frustrating is it
to you that people look back with twenty twenty hindsight
and judge you when you and the rest of the
world was in the fog of war.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
You know, it is quite frustrating, Joe.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
And that relates exactly to the answer to the question
just the moment ago where I was saying that people
really don't appreciate I don't blame them for that, but
they don't appreciate that we were dealing with a moving target.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
You're absolutely right, was it frustrating?
Speaker 7 (08:08):
It was terribly frustrating because people like to take things
out of context and do a gotcha.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
That's part of the reporting.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Any accountability for the people who destroyed lives is a gotcha.
Of course, he took a shot at Trump.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
From a health standpoint, he missed opportunities to use the
bully pulpit of the presidency to tell people to do
things that would keep them safe. That's what bothers me
as a public health person, as a physician who my
only care and goal is the safety and the protection
of the American public and their health.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
And for example, he could have said, when.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
The masks came out and the CDC said wear a mask.
Instead of saying I don't want to wear a mask,
he might have said, mask saves lives. I'll wear a mask,
and then all the people who follow him religiously would
have been wearing mask and it would have been the same.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah. Anyway, there was testimony today courtesy of the United
States Senate. They were dragging people in front of the
Senate and getting testimony on what happened. And we need
to pause on this for a minute. This stuff matters
a lot. Dragging these people into the public, finding out
(09:25):
who lied, how many lies were told, what did they
lie about. Humiliating people like Fauci is a critical part
of maintaining a free society because people who attack a
free society should be attacked in return by that society.
Meaning if Fauci is going to use his position to
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destroy your child's education, for instance, or not let you
bury your father, then Fauci deserves scorn, shame, brutal testimony. Frankly,
let's be honest, he deserves prison. Although I know he's
never going to go to prison. I'm not naive, but
accountability is so important, and that used to be something
(10:09):
that was built into this country. If you were a
military leader and you just screwed up, it's not even intentional.
If you screwed up on accident, you very likely would
have to give testimony about that. You might be court
martialed for mistakes. Now we get the Hey, nobody knew,
so let's hear from these witnesses.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Next.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
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Speaker 2 (10:40):
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Speaker 3 (10:44):
Remember to email us. We love your emails. Jesse at
Jesse kellyshow dot com. I'm gonna get to so many
of those tonight, we do. I have Brandon Darby coming
up ten minutes from now, and I have to finish
all this Pfizer's stuff and moll deal O the Supreme
Court stuff. But there's gonna be twenty emails Chris, where's
my tally at the on the email list for tonight?
Speaker 9 (11:06):
One?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
That's not right. You missed like five or something like that.
You probably weren't paying attention. You'll give me two, Thank you, Chris.
At least there's been two. At least two anyway, twenty
by the end of the night. Back to what we
were talking about. So remember, remember when we started to
learn about gain of function research. I don't want to
(11:30):
speak for you. I didn't know anything about gain of
function research before COVID, and then we start to find
out what it is. Hold on we are we're funding
We're funding scientists who are intentionally turning a virus more deadly.
(11:50):
Why would they do that? That was a question I
always ask these people when they came on. Why would
you get in a lab and make a virus deadly
and more contagious on purpose? In fact, that's a very
good question, Chris. Why do you have to do it
in China? If this is so important, if this is
(12:11):
all on the up and up, why are we doing
it in Wuhan? And remember the answer we got. We
were told repeatedly, Hey, hey, the only gain of function
research we do is so it can make vaccines more effective.
That's what we were told repeatedly. Well, we have to
know how to treat these scenes, we have to know
how to vaccinate for these things. Listen to this guy today.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
It's important to emphasize that the research in question has
no zero civilian practical applications. Gain of function research on
potential pandemic pathogens is not used and does not contribute
to the development of vaccines, and is not used and
for and does not contribute to the development of drugs.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
So again that ration, I.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Let him finish that, Senator Ron Johnson questioning him. So
all that all that was a lie. You had to
do this gain of function research because that's the only
way we're going to know how to treat or vaccinate.
But but you.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Lie, now for all this research is exactly that in case,
we have to respond in case. But that's the rationale
in case we have to respond to a bioweapon attack. Okay,
we need a defense mechanism. So that's that's the reason.
For example, the Defense Department he has spent forty two
million dollars or funded Eco Health Alliance for forty two
million dollars in USAID for fifty three million.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
So the current definition is research that is reasonably anticipated
to increase either the transmissibility or the virulence of a
potential pandemic pathogen. That research does not contribute to developing
countermeasures against potential because that's that's the rationale they use.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, so they lied about all that. What else did
they lie? You know what?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I remember?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I remember the lengths they went to to try to
absolve China from any responsibility for this whole thing. And
I do want to remind everybody. I want to remind
you China knew about this. They shut down air travel
within their own country, no more flying. Hey, you can't
fly from here to there in China. Yet they allowed
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air travel to continue to the United States of America.
Did you know that? You remember that part? And remember
what we were told. We were told that it came
from a wet market, and you were all wait a minute,
what's a wet market?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Is it raining?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I don't understand. And they made it sound like there's
these exotic Chinese markets straight out of an Indiana Jones movie,
and you could just get COVID from a bowl of
bat soup. Remember all that? Oh, definitely a second.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Let's look at the market data.
Speaker 10 (14:54):
No infected animals in the market or the supply chain
were infected. No infected wild life life vendors who are
had SARS. All human infections are the non ancestral lineage B.
The environmental specimens with animal DNA have no SARS too.
One venderhead animals from southern China, where SARS two came from.
But this vendor and his animals are negative for SARS too.
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Now only one of fourteen environmental samples with.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I'm too board. That's too much nerd talk. But that
sounds really bad. That sounds like we were lied to.
And speaking of being lied to, this is Obgyn Kimberly
Biss is her name. How many women and this is
an awful painful subject. How many women out there lost
their babies because of authors?
Speaker 11 (15:42):
Are hay The government employed are involved in the vaccine
committees to approve vaccine. So this article was published in
June of twenty twenty one. They had a cohort, I
want to say, at maybe eight hundred and twenty seven women,
and they said in their article that the miscarriage rate
(16:02):
was normal because it was thirteen point six percent. But
the problem with that is that they didn't do the
statistics right because they used the whole cohort of women,
which were you know, either first, second, or third trimester
of pregnancy. Miscarriage is defined as a pregnancy lost prior
to twenty weeks, which would be the halfway mark of
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a pregnancy. If you lose a baby after twenty weeks,
that's a still birth. So when you actually took the
twenty week and under pregnant women in that study and
used the correct math, the miscarriage rate was eighty three percent.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Eighty three percent. How many mothers and fathers would be
mothers and fathers don't have their babies because of this
poisonous filth. And this is why I won't let it go,
and this is why I will not forget, and I
will not forgive. All Right, all right, we have Brandon
(17:05):
Darby coming up. We're moving away from that it's too much.
We're moving away from that talk about the border. I'm
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Fighting for your freedom every day the Jesse Kelly Show.
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It is the Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And joining me now as he often does, my friend
Brandon Darby Cartel Chronicles. Bright Bard knows more about the
border and the cartels and illegal immigration than anything else.
You know what set all that crap aside for a moment, Brandon.
I hate to sound like an old man, but doesn't
that make you miss the eighties? I was trying to
explain to my kids because I'm starting to show them
(18:57):
eighties movies now and they're saying, Dad, they're so different
and they're awesome. Life was just different, then.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Was it it?
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (19:05):
I think it was Jesse. You know. The good news
is is eighties nights are really popular, so you can
relive the eighties a little bit. You can. You know
several auto traders online you can find cars from the eighties.
I mean, you could really live it up if you
want to. I like eighties nights. I go, I go
(19:25):
to eighties nights wherever I go. I always look for
an eighties night. I love to dance so so, you know,
get a little eighties every so off and watch a
couple of eighties movies. You know, it's not bad.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
No, it's not bad.
Speaker 9 (19:39):
Gosh, I get a trapper keeper. I'd a friend of
your wife's name. I'm the trapper keeper.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Trapper keeper.
Speaker 11 (19:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I would enjoy dancing every now and then, but the
wife says it's like dancing with the grizzly bears, So
I generally try not to do that. Either way. Let's
talk about some cartel stuff. Okay, Brandon, Obviously things are
ramped up a bit at the border. It looks pretty
obvious to me anyway. The administration is trying to hoover
up as many of these people into the country as
(20:08):
humanly possible in anticipation of Joe possibly losing the election.
But I don't want to speak out of turn. Is
that what you're seeing?
Speaker 9 (20:16):
Yeah? I think, you know. I think there's two levels
going on here on both sides. Right, But we'll talk
right now about Democrats, since they're the ones who control
the administration. I think on a normal everyday street level,
you know, Democrats who consume largely Democratic Party propaganda, right
(20:37):
the mainstream media. I think that they genuinely think that
they're just caring for people, trying to be helpful. I
don't think that they're, you know, have the most evil intentions,
but I do think on a higher level, I think
that the Democratic Party is intentionally bringing people into the country.
And you know, let me put it this way, if
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they were predominantly Republican, I do not think Democrats. Democrats
would would be allowing them in, right. So I think
that ultimately it turns Red States blue to fill our
country with millions of people who are impoverished and who
need to live off of a system that they will
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then want to perpetuate because they benefited from it that
other people should too. I think that's where we are.
I think leading up to elections, what Democrats do is
they make deals with Mexico, and Mexico starts cracking down
a little bit, making the numbers slow down, so that
it looks like the Democratic administration is doing something about
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the border. But in reality they are not doing anything sustainable,
in anything long term or anything other than just simply
giving favors to Mexico. So Mexico, you know, craps down
a little bit ahead of an election.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Brandon let's actually focus on Mexico. This is really the
main reason I wanted you to come on, new President.
I never know. It's hard to figure out what another
country's new leader is and what they're not. I haven't
read very much. That's very complimentary of this woman, but
I don't know. You know, who is this woman? What
is this woman? What should we anticipate from her?
Speaker 9 (22:17):
I think you're going to anticipate much of what you've
much of what you've seen with the previous Mexican president.
We have to keep in mind that that no one
really ran strongly against her, No one really ran strongly
against her, because it's just a continuation. It's Amler's handpicked person,
(22:41):
the Amber being the actual current Mexican you know, president
before the female takes over, Miss Claudia Shandam. But we're
going to see a continuation of that. We have leftists,
you know, Mexico is a very left leftist country, a
very left leaning country. You're going to see a continuation
(23:02):
of buddying up with China and pitting and playing China
against the US to get benefit from Mexico, which is
what we already have going on. Like we've said this
on your show before, you know, when when Mexico's you know,
communications and telecom infrastructure is being built, the US did
not get that. China got it. Huahwe got it, you know.
(23:23):
And so you have China trying to basically ultimately have
a satellite or a subservient country on our southern border,
and you have the US doing a really bad job,
the US State Department doing a really bad job at
competing with China for for it's interests in Mexico. So
you're going to see more of that. I think you're
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going to see more of the same policies towards drug cartels.
I don't think they're going to crack down. I think
that it's going to be much of you know, hey,
as long as you guys don't get too out of line,
we're not going to do anything about it. Never we
do anything about it. You know, there's a lot of violence,
and that's on us. You know that they look at
it like liberals look at things. They look at guns
(24:05):
like liberals look at guns. They look at crime like
liberals generally look at crime. I'm sure there's some sub
you know, small subset of liberals who are pro law
enforcement and don't look at it that way. I'm sure
you can find some Union guys up in the North
or something, or Minnesota or Michigan or whatever who aren't
anti law enforcement or who are pro law enforcement, who
(24:27):
are liberals, but generally speaking, they you know, they have
a weird way of looking at stuff. It's you know,
when Mexico did crack down and when the US did
crack down on cartels, after they killed a d agent
named Kiki ki Arena and they tortured him and brutalized them,
kidnapped him, you know, the Mexico blamed the US for
(24:48):
the increased violence simply because we went after the bad
guys who were hurting our people. Yes, there's going to
be more violence. Whenever you're shooting at bad guys, more
p will get shot, right, But ultimately, in the long term,
you know, Mexico has decided that it's largely okay with
being a corrupted narco state. The United Nations hasn't listed
(25:12):
as a fragile state, which has not failed, but it's
getting pretty close, right, and Mexico is just going to
continue that.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Speaking with Brandon Darby Cartel Chronicles, Brandon, I do this
to you a lot, but I have a couple other
questions I want to follow up with. Do you think
you can hang on for just five to ten more
after this so I can ask a couple questions about
their ability to crack down what they can do with
the cartails. I find this fascinating. Do you have ten?
Speaker 9 (25:40):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Okay, we will be right back. I'm going to break
a little bit early. We'll be right back with Brandon Darby.
Cartel chronicles, have more. I have questions. It's what a
journalist would do. Hang on.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Is he smarter than everyone he knows? Does he think so? Yeah?
The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
It is The Jesse Kelly Show on a Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Back with Brendon Darby, our cartel illegal immigration expert talking
about the border. Okay, Brandon, we have this new president
in Mexico and you brought up cracking down on the cartels.
Let's just set her aside for a moment. Politically, is
it possible for Mexico to get a president in administration
that would legitimately in serious ways go after the cartels
(26:33):
or do they control too much of the country that
that's just not something that's realistically going to happen.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
Well, you know, it's not realistically going to happen. You know,
I'm an advocate and I have been for many years
of the US taking independent action to deal with drug cartels. No,
that doesn't mean sending in Marines, but it does mean
probably allowing our intelligence community, you know, some of whom
(27:04):
would of which would be US military in small numbers,
right to take specific targeted actions against individuals in Mexico
and networks in Mexico who are hurting American citizens. I
think that that is something we would ultimately have to do.
I think, you know, finding people in Mexico who are
(27:28):
friendly toward our interests, whether that's because of idealistic reasons
or because they want US citizenship, or because they want money,
and getting those people to do the bidding of our
nation is probably where we are as a country with
Mexico as neighbors. Depending on Mexico. I do not believe
(27:48):
that another nation should be allowed to poison and send
killers into our country and get away with it simply
because the drug lord is connected politically and economic to
Mexico's leadership. I think we should take action. I'm very
hawkish about that. That said, I'm critical of people saying
we should send in our military and take it over. No,
(28:10):
I don't think so. I think we should. We should basically,
you know, either obtain the individuals who are hurting us
and responsible, or we should, you know, we should make
sure that they are pushing up daisies. I'm perfectly okay
with that. That is where what we ultimately will have
to do, even if we don't want to do that
(28:31):
right now as a nation, that's what we'll have to do.
You have to remember, Jesse, that the drug lord is
just a replaceable figurehead. In Mexico being a narco state,
you have these circles of corruption in that are politicians,
industry leaders, financiers, you know, financial leaders who are ultimately connected.
(28:55):
They're more than happy when we take out a El
Chapo or you know, Gato or you know whomever the
particular cartel head is, because another one just pops in
that person's place. It's the circle of corruption behind the
drug cartels that are our real enemy. And I think
that we've done well at identifying who some of those
(29:16):
people are. You just go to our Treasury Department's blacklists
and see what you know, who we've identified. But I
think ultimately, you know we as a nation will have
to take independent action, possibly through people in Mexico, in
order to you know, we should probably treat it like
the threat that it is and deal with it the
(29:37):
way that our intelligence community and certain parts of our
military deal with with such threats in other countries.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Well, speaking again with Brandon Darby Cartel Chronicles. Okay, Brandon, finally,
to what level does the cartel operate inside the borders
of America? I mean, you know so much more than
I know. I personally know of a suburb right here
in the Houston area where cartel leaders from opposing cartels
(30:07):
reside and the local cops know they reside there, and
there's an unsmoking agreement no violence here. Y'all have your
suburban home. To what level are these organizations operating, not
in Mexico but here?
Speaker 9 (30:20):
Well, good question, JESSEI we have to remember, and we
talked about Doug Cartel, we're really talking about thousands of
independent criminal groups, some of whom are under the banner
of like the Sinaloa Federation. We call them the Sinaloa Cartel.
But those are particularly hundreds of criminal groups who all
have their own names, but we call them Sinaloa cartel.
(30:42):
So in Central Mexico, many of the cartel leaders are
Mexican nationals. Along our southern border, the majority of the
cartel leadership are actually US citizens people of dual citizenship
who live in the United States. So these guys have
our our country divvied up into their territories. Right. So,
(31:04):
for instance, if you're in South Texas, if you're if
you're east of Zappota, Texas, you're you're very strongly in
Gulf cartel territory. When you get west of Zappota, Texas
all the way to roughly del Rio, you're in lifts
at this cartel c d n's territory. You know, they
call themselves CDM. We still call them lifts at us
(31:26):
because we don't allow them to rebrand and you know,
shirk off all the bad things they've done historically. When
you go west of that, I mean, go down the line,
love it. Texas is mostly a cartel out of out
of Warres' territory. You know, Washington State and Portland, Oregon,
all that region up there largely belongs to the you
know groups in Jalisco and in mitchell Acan. So you know,
(31:49):
Alabama has a lot of influence and territory of a
Guatemala Guatemalan criminal group. So so our country is divvied
up big time, and cartels have their territory here just
like they do there. A lot of times they get
US gang members, US gangs, US criminal groups, US prison
gangs to do their bidding in our country, but make
(32:12):
no mistake, the calls for what to do are coming
from Mexican cartels. And and that's something that most Americans
don't realize, uh, is that that are the prize is
the United States. Right, we're there. We are the larger,
largest buyers of the drugs that they sell. We are
(32:33):
the largest takers of the migrants that they traffic. So
their entire economic engine is impossible without also having US buyers.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, that is the sad freaking fact of it. Brandon Darby,
Cartel Chronicles, thank you so much for giving us a
few minutes and making it smarter than I I appreciate
it very.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
Much, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Look, that's why I asked that last question because every
time I talk to one of these guys border patrol
guys something like that, and I talked to him about
the different cartels and the different areas they have the
country already divided up. And as you heard from him,
he's talking about Washington, Oregon. We're not just talking about
(33:19):
this in just a Texas, Arizona, New Mexico thing, southern
California thing. They operate here, they operate here in when
it comes to dealing with this fentanyl crisis. Look, when
you have one hundred thousand Americans dying of anything, anything,
it's a huge deal. One hundred thousand Americans a year
(33:39):
are now dying of fentanyl. We're not even going to
talk about the largest slave trade and the history of
the world on our southern border right now, not yesteryear. Now,
that's happening right now. But the problem is you probably
followed along with That's why I was asking the questions
I asked. So much of this corruption and crime and
(34:01):
everything it's woven into not just the very government of Mexico,
it's woven into the United States of America. And how
do you get how do you get a cancer out
when it's in the bones? That isn't necessarily something that's easy,
(34:22):
And sometimes I hate to say, you don't want to
be Debbie Downer, sometimes it's not even necessarily something that's possible.
Is it possible to totally fix this problem? You know,
it's easy on the campaign trail to just say we're
gonna go set in the Marines again. That's why I
was asking the questions. It's so much more difficult than that.
(34:45):
And it's gonna be a generational thing. We'll see how
she goes. All right, So the Supreme Court, we already
did the COVID fizor stuff and whatnot. But the Supreme
Court has this thing every now and then when they're
about to have make a ruling or have an opinion
of an opinion made public. Every now and then they
(35:08):
will put barriers up around the court itself. That's when
they think whatever opinion, whatever ruling they're going to pass
down might be a little spicy and a little controversial. Well,
the barriers just got put off, did you know that?
You know what's coming. Let's do a little Supreme Court
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talk and some things surrounding that in just a moment
before we get to that. That may be a lot
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