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June 19, 2024 44 mins

The FBI was just filmed raiding another medical whistleblower. Can the bureau continue to exist, or must it be ended? Jesse Kelly has some hard-hitting thoughts on the state of the FBI and gets reaction from FBI whistleblower Steve Friend. Plus, appearances from Dr. Aaron Kheriaty, Jill Simonian and Christine Yeargin.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Let's talk about our medical institutions today, our law enforcement
institutions today. Doctor Fauci's out there in the news. We
are all over the place, huge show tonight, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Right, how do you handle it?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
How should you handle it?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
When the institutions of your nation become evil institutions? I
asked that question because that's where we are now, and
I can't speak for you. I don't want to speak
for you, but I will tell you for me. I
don't know the answer yet. I'm not sure of the
appropriate answer yet. I know we must either take back

(00:48):
these institutions. I know that, or we must create alternate
institutions wherever humanly possible. We must eliminate the evil institutions.
But we can't continue on the way we're continuing on.
And here's a lot me to give you, just a
little stupid analogy, but that allow me to explain. There's
one hundred person village. We've done this before. That's where

(01:11):
you live, That's where I live. We live in this
little hundred person village we're out in Africa, and there
is in one of the huts, it's the medical hut.
That's where the doctors and nurses that's where they live work. Well,
that's where they work, that's where they go in you
have any medical problems, that's where you go get healed.
There's another hut. That's the hut that's kind of in

(01:31):
charge of enforcing the law the cops, if you will.
In the village, Hey, you broke the law jaywalking, you
didn't feed your cattle.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Okay, so that's good. We need institutions like that, right.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Law enforcement is a critical institution. The medical hut, that's critical.
People are going to get sick, get injured. You need
people to heal, and that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
But what do you.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Do if those institutions turn bad, hostile to the village itself.
This is a question we have to ask ourselves, and
we better come up with the appropriate answers because that's
where we are in the country. Have you ever heard
of Texas Children's Hospital. This is not just a Texas thing.

(02:12):
You should know. This is a world renowned children's hospital.
People will fly, Princes will fly from across the globe
on their private jets to get their children care medical
attention at Texas Children's Hospital, a revered medical institution. Well,

(02:34):
I know I'm going to spoil this for you, but
it's in Texas. And in Texas you can't perform child
mutilation trainee surgeries.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
I'm not allowed to do that here.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
You're not allowed to chop off the penises of young
boys the breasts of young girls.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
That's a no go.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay, But Texas Children's Hospital is evil. So many of
our medical institutions are evil, and the evil oftentimes laughs
at your rules. You see, Texas Children's Hospital allegedly is
still chopping off the penises and the breasts of young
boys and young girls. And we have a whistle blower.

(03:15):
The two institutions are going to work together. As you're
about to see Ethan Hayes. His name is the doctor
Texas Children's Hospital, and he's blowing the whistle on Texas
Children's Hospital.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
He was on tok of. This is what he had
to said.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
When I was working at Texas Children's Hospital, I was
a surgical resident, which means I was in my training
phase to become a board certified surgeon. And while I
was working there, you know, the hospital had released a
statement in March of twenty twenty two that said they
were unequivocally shutting down their transgender program because of the

(03:51):
legal risks, and I quickly found out this was a
complete lie, completely untrue. You know, three days after that,
they had placed a premi blocking device into an eleven.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Year old girl.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
And I knew this because I worked at the hospital.
I knew the people who were doing these procedures. They
had told me about it, and I just saw I
saw the frequency of these procedures increasing over the next
couple of months. And then you see the directors of
a program that supposedly does not exist, given the opportunity

(04:29):
to speak at the hospital's most prestigious lecture series. So
they would teach these general pediatricians how to ask these
children about their gender identity behind the backs of their parents.
They would perpetuate the lie that either of these kids
have to adopt a false identity, become chronic medical patients,

(04:49):
or they're going to kill themselves. And when I understood
the extent of the deception that was happening, that Texas
Children's Hospital told the public they were shutting down this
program in March twenty twenty two, but behind closed doors,
they did the exact opposite. They increased the scope of

(05:11):
his practice and prioritize it to the highest levels.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
An eleven year old girl. They're performing these things on
eleven year olds, demonic. And so doctor Haym comes forward
and says, they're still doing these procedures, They're doing them
on eleven year olds, They're doing them a lot. This
stuff's still going on. So he blew a whistle on

(05:40):
illegalities that were happening with his employer. Now what happened next, Well,
he sat down with Christopher Rufo. You want to talk
about your evil institutions, the medical Hut, the law enforcement Hut.
What if not only they become evil, they work together.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
So the day I was graduating was June twenty thirds
of a Friday morning, and I was in my apartment.
My family was in town. I was getting ready for
the ceremony later that night. This is the night before, No,
this is the day of the graduation, day of the
day of Yeah, it's it's around like eleven am, I think,
and all of a sudden, you know, I get an aggressive,

(06:20):
unexpected knock on the door. You know, I shuffle overrou
I'm wearing some stupid T shirt and some like shorts
I had from college. I know who it was. I
opened it, and standing outside are two federal agents. They
say it there with Health and Human Services and that
they're investigating, investigating case regarding medical records, and they show

(06:41):
me their badges, and it's one of those moments where
where time just stops, and you know, looking back on it,
it's like you read about political tyranny in other countries.
I read about it my whole life growing up, but
I knew at that moment it showed up to my
door set.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Doctor ham has now been indicted by those evil law
enforcement institutions and he's facing ten years in prison.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
A whistleblower.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Told the public about illegal child mutilation going on.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
It was illegal, the child mutilation.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Not only is it to monic and wrong, it was illegal,
and the federal government sent its let's just call him
what they are, thugs, sent its thugs to his home
and now they're.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Going to throw him in a cage for ten years.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Look, he's not a one off even about this Texas
Children's thing. A nurse Vanessa Savage has since come forward
and backed up a lot of doctor Hame's claims. These
things are still going on. It's really bad. And would
you like to know what the federal government's response was
to poor nurse Vanessa when she brought these things forward.

(08:04):
It's almost as if they have a playbook they follow.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
Hello, all right, I'm looking for Vanessa Savage. Okay, I'll
make some FBI. Okay, okay, all right, Hi, how are
you what you want to see too? Are we interrupting dinner?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I'm really sorry that all right?

Speaker 5 (08:34):
What's going on? Let me start at the beginning. So
I'm sure you're aware of some of the things have
been going on at your work with regards to Yeah,
so I gotta can I can we sit down for
a minute, let me do my song and dance.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Let me just say a couple of things to you.
There's a couple practical things that.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
You very well may need to know.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
In practice, you don't ever talk to the FBI for
any reason without your lawyer present. If you're on the
way home and you see a man or woman pulled
over on the side of the road changing their tire,
and you pull over to help them, and they announce
to you that they're with the FBI, you get back

(09:26):
in your car and you drive home, and you don't
say it another word. They do the buddy buddy routine.
You mind if I come in you mind. If I
sit down the second day say I'm with the FBI,
every answer out of your mouth is lawyer, lawyer, Yeah,
how's the weather today, lawyer?

Speaker 3 (09:42):
What's your name? Lawyer? Lawyer, lawyer.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
You don't talk to these evil KGB thugs ever, and
allow me to explain something to the low TGP. The
medical institutions in this country, in the Federal Bureau of
Investigation are evil, hostile to this nation, and they will
tear this nation to bits if you allow them so.

(10:07):
They don't need brand new buildings, they don't need headquarters.
They need to be completely destroyed. The Federal Bureau of
Investigation should fire every single employee and then we'll decide
which ones get arrested and sent to federal prison. That
may sound extreme to you. You cannot have a free

(10:28):
country and also have an evil, secret state police agency.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
It doesn't work that way.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
If you're in the FBI and you're now just a
thug for the dirty commies in charge, and they'll send
you like a pit bull after American citizens whenever they
need someone arrested or shot, like they did to that
fatle band in Utah.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
You're the bad guy. I don't know how we exist.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
What our plan is to deal with the nation that's
institutions have to earn this evil, but we had better
deal with it. And if I have to hear one
more person talk about.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
And the great men and women is the FBI.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
It's just a few bad apples at the top, I'm
gonna throw myself off a bridge. All that may have
made you uncomfortable, but I am right.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
We have so much to get.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
To medical institutions and otherwise tonight we talk to you
about something else.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
The corporate world is evil, horrible.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
You see it all over the place now, especially during
Pride month, and so you me, we have to be
more purposeful with where we spend and don't spend my money,
and we have to kind of dance a little bit.
It takes more effort than it used to.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Now.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
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before you actually do anything. Pure Talk is the cell
phone company you should have. Look up Verizon. You don't
have to take my word for it at and T
T Mobile. These are terrible companies and they overcharge you.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
You want to save a bunch of money. My deal
got cut in half.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Go to puretalk dot com, slash JESSETV and go with
the company that shares your values.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
We'll be back.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Well, we showed you the video of those FBI agents
tried to do the buddy buddy thing at the nurse's
home right off the bat. But you know, of course
it got ugly after that. They were there to intimidate.
This is according to her quote. They threatened me. They
promised they would make life difficult for me if I
was trying to protect the leaker. They said I was

(12:41):
not safe at work and claimed that someone at my
workplace had given my name to the FBI. Does that
sound like law enforcement? But does that sound like the
Stazi joining me? Now, brave man, FBI whistleblower had enough
of all this filth and now he speaks out about it.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
He's also a.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Senior fellow at the Center for Renewing America. My friend,
retired FBI special agent Steve Friend, Steve, is this standard
operating procedure? Show up, you do the hey, I'm just
a good dude here to help you think FBI of course,
and then you start threatening whistleblowers.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
It seems to be that's the standard operating procedure for them.
Now you have these guys Paul Nixon and David McBride,
who at best are just good Germans just following orders.

Speaker 7 (13:29):
But it doesn't really matter what their motivations are.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
They should wind up penniless and indigen and have their
families disown them for betraying their owth of office and
for weaponizing the process. It's not about the process anymore.
That's what I signed up for. It should be about
the fair process. You gather the facts, you present them,
and then that person has their day in court, if
there's even a day in court, if there's even a
crime to be committed here.

Speaker 7 (13:51):
But they're not interested in that.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
They're interested in finding the person and then finding a
crime to attach to them. And like you said before,
that's very much like a secret police force, very much
like a STAZZI or a KGV, not really keeping with
the heritage of American law enforce.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Steve, I understand I'm gonna ask you to psychologize someone else,
and that's a difficult thing to do.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
But I need to understand this.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
You've talked to us, and you told us your story
before you were working on your child pornography cases. Right,
it's not hard to find the motivation to track down
the friggin monsters who do crap like that. That's the
kind of stuff that men like you sign up. You
sign up to take down bad guys like that. And
I'm assuming those two dorks at that front door at
one point in their lives had that mentality. Maybe that's

(14:36):
a wrong assumption, But you show up to work one
day and you find out that your job that day
is to go intimidate a nurse who's blowing the whistle
on tranny surgeries, you know that you're the bad guy
in that moment, right on the way to the house.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
These guys have to know I'm the bad guy. Right.

Speaker 6 (14:56):
Theoretically, there's supposed to be someone who's veetited of the
person of integrity. I mean, a motto of the FBI
is fidelity, bravery, and integrity. But I think all too
often people sort of view the motto and even the
oath of office as like an iPhone user agreement, and
you just check yes in order to get the accouterments
and the attachments to being a special agent with the FBI,
which now at this point includes a six figure salary,

(15:17):
fifty paid days off a year, three paid hours a
week to work on your mental wellness and your physical fitness.
And you have unlimited, seemingly number of federal holidays which
we just keep inventing at a whole cloth, including today
because no one's at work today. So unfortunately, I'm not
able to get any moles give me information of what's
going on. But back to these guys, Look, they are
either just following orders or they're doing so gleefully, which

(15:39):
wouldn't surprise me in light of the recent revelations that
we've had come out of the Judiciary Committee about the
type of personnel that the FBI is now bringing in.

Speaker 7 (15:46):
They're not destroying the FBI.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
They're building an FBI that will gleefully execute orders and
go after someone like this brave nurse.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
I'm glad you brought this up. There was a story out.
You've been talking about this from just the news. I
want to make sure I give them credit about the
FBI and its internal purge of people who may not
see eye to eye with leadership.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
What's going on.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
Well, as is the case with myself and other whistleblowers
like me who were then suspended in retaliation. But the
FBI suspends your security clearance, so can circumvent whistlebler protection laws.
They then send a team to interview your former colleagues
and they ask you the questions, and it's one of
the guys of finding out if maybe you're a threat
to national security. Hey, does this guy have relationships with

(16:31):
people in Iran? Is he talking about overthrowing the government?
That's necessary information if we're going to make sure he
has the security clearance. But what we've found out now
and what was revealed by just the news is question
number two was does this person like Donald Trump? Question
number three was did this person not like to get
the coronavirus vaccine? And these were compulsory questions, which is
what I've been saying is really the most important part.

(16:53):
Because I wasn't in the room, they weren't asking me
these questions. They were asking my colleagues, and they were
forced to answer the question clearly sending out message if
you don't answer the questions in the way that we
deem appropriate, then we're going to come after you. And finally,
I will say, this can confirm this is not a
one off. This happened in my office as it pertained
to me. I've talked to multiple members of my former
colleagues who're asked these very specific questions. This was a

(17:15):
systemic effort by the FBI to purge people like me
and to send a warning shot across the bow of others.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Steve, what do we do without an FBI? And it's
not as if I think they're about to go away
like they should. But whenever you bring that up, it
sounds like such a drastic step to people. Oh my gosh,
we need them. Who's going to fight crime? How would
a nation operate without an organization like this?

Speaker 6 (17:39):
Unfortunately, people have a fundamental misunderstanding about what the FBI's
actual mandate is, and it's not as broad as we think.
Because we watch TV and movies and we think that
they're chasing down bad guys in back alleys and slapping
the cuffs on them. That doesn't happen. They're not first responders.
They have a really narrow focus. If we got rid
of the FBI, we returned to a semblance of normality
that existed in this country in the nighte teen hundreds.

(18:00):
We didn't have an armed FBI, and we should empower
local law enforcement because they are more reactive and they're
more responsible to their local population.

Speaker 7 (18:10):
They know the usual suspects.

Speaker 6 (18:12):
If a crime happens, they know that half dozen guys
that likely did it in that area because those guys
are out there riding the beat. They have the subject
matter expertise, they have the experience. If you are a
member of a law enforcement agency and say a detective role,
you've gone to an academy, you wrote a beat, you
really cut your teeth on being a cop, and then
you ascended to become a detective. In the FBI, you

(18:32):
go to a twenty week academy and that we're now
finding out they're hiring people who were former baristas or
even heroin addicts, and they're assigning them to be the
premier law enforcement agency for the country.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
She's we're in so much trouble. Okay, let's at least
talk about some good news. Steve. This Marcus Allen, what's
going on here?

Speaker 6 (18:52):
Well, this was a big relief, I know, to Marcus
into to all of us the suspendables, as we like
to paint ourselves under that moniker Marcus Allen after two
twenty seven months of indefinite unpaid suspension from the FBI
because apparently he was a threat to national security, Well
he just reached a settlement with the FBI where they
reinstated his security clearance and gave him full back pay

(19:12):
and benefits. And Merrit Garland can say whatever he wants
to Congress about the fact that they do acknowledge any
sort of guilt. This is a one hundred percent vindication
that Marcus did nothing wrong and they did him wrong,
and they should face the consequences. Beyond just paying him
his back pay, there needs to be significant damages paid
to him and to others like him.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Steve, does the FBI fear Congress? Have you ever been
part of or worried about a conversation from the higher
ups that they're they're worried about this or worried about that.
Because I got to be honest, Steve, I'm worried that
they're not worried.

Speaker 7 (19:45):
They're not worried at all.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
And we've actually gotten some intelligence given to us from
the inside that there was apparently a televise internally in
the FBI conference that went on where they are essentially
making fun of the Republican Party as Congress's oversight responsibilities
now fall to them because they don't fear them and
they have no reason to. The congressional Republicans, the House Republicans,
who have the power of the purse, have continued to

(20:08):
fund this agency over and over again and now awarding
it with this brand new headquarters that will be double
the size of the Pentagon, which side note, the DoD
has a million people, the FBI has forty thousand. It's
completely unjustified. But Chris fher Ray went to the Senate
a couple weeks ago and asked for eleven point three
billion dollars and included in his opening statement was our

(20:28):
number one priority are anti government, anti authority, violent extremists,
and the FBI defines those as people who have a
perception of government overreach.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, Steve, thank you, my man. As always, please come back.
So that was a lot, wasn't it. Well, that wasn't enough.
We have Fauci out there now trying to sell his
book run in his mouth, and we have another doctor
here to discuss foul before we do those things. Look,

(21:03):
let's talk about sleeping, shall we, Because here's how it works.
I understand how it works because I'm a human being
just like you. If you haven't been sleeping, you need
a good night's sleep.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
What do we do? Everyone?

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Doesn't you take something, Maybe it's over the counter.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
I don't know what you do.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
But how do you feel the next day after you
take something to sleep?

Speaker 3 (21:24):
If you're awful? Don't you? I always have awful.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
I think I'd rather pull it all night or than
take something to sleep again. You wake up and you're
half dead. Until I found dream powder. You see dream powder.
It's all natural stuff. It's melotonein things like that. It's
just a little cup of hot chocolate, a couple of
different flavors. I do the cinnamon cocoa, and I just
sip on a little cup of hat hot chocolate before bed,

(21:50):
and you kind of just ease off to sleep.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
You don't just pass out dead.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
You ease off to sleep and you stay.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Asleep all night long.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
But the best part is when you wake up and
you don't feel like somebody's rubbing your eyes with sandpaper
and your body weighs four hundred pounds.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Go get some dream powder man forty percent off Shopbeam
dot com slash Jesse Kelly, We'll be better.

Speaker 8 (22:26):
How nervous are you about our ability to handle the
next pandemic, whatever it might be.

Speaker 9 (22:31):
I'm very concerned about that because the misinformation and disinformation
about absolutely scientifically proven life saving interventions. It's astonishing to
me that so many people, by political ideology will make
a decision that we can actually endanger their lives. I mean,

(22:52):
the facts are and as a physician and a scientist,
this is very painful to me that if you look
at red Staine versus Blue states, because of people getting
less vaccinated because you're a Republican versus a Democrat, there
are more deaths and hospitalizations in red states versus blue states.

(23:12):
That's horrible that that happens, that people suffer and die
because of misinformation that's related to a political ideology.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Ah, misinformation. He hates that stuff. How could you mislead people?
After all, use your position as a doctor or a
scientist to mislead people.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Let's talk to a doctor about that.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Joining me now, Doctor Aaron Carriote, author of the book
The New Abnormal Fascinating.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Read doctor doctor Faucis.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Certainly would never push what's that word misinformation out there?

Speaker 3 (23:48):
What are you about things like ivermecta.

Speaker 7 (23:51):
It's really hard to listen to him talk like that.

Speaker 8 (23:55):
One of the greatest purveyors of misinformation and someone who
was given probably the biggest microphone during the pandemic to
explain to the American people what was going on, and
time and again he knowingly and willingly in some cases
gave false information that was self serving, covering up the
pandemic origins. As we've seen during the congressional hearings this week,

(24:20):
the coordination behind the scenes of this paper that was
published in Nature Medicine that is now known to be fraudulent.
The people who published it didn't actually believe what they
said in the paper. We know that now based on
internal communications that were retrieved, the authors talking with one
another about the fact that they were not convinced that
this was a natural spillover from an animal host, and

(24:41):
yet they published a piece immediately after that insisting that
that was the only plausible hypothesis and basically shutting down
conversation about lab League for the better part of the
first year of the pandemic. So doctor Fauci has used
his authority and his authoritative position to basically to the
American people. Has admitted on several occasions he said things

(25:03):
that were not true simply for political ends. And now
he's lecturing us on misinformation of the fact that we're
not ready for the next pandemic. I want to correct
the record too on this red state blue state nonsense.
If you look at age adjusted mortality, if you adjust
for the fact that there's more old people in Florida
versus California, which is what you need to do to

(25:23):
compare apples to apples, Florida and California had the same
age adjusted mortality from COVID, where basically California shut down
the entire state for the better part of two years,
closed schools, doing enormous harm to young people. Florida started
going down that path, but then corrected course fairly early

(25:44):
on in the pandemic and so didn't have the kind
of collateral damage that we saw from policies that were
pushed by doctor Fauci, and they basically had the same
outcomes when it came to COVID deaths. But we're going
to see Florida with much better outcomes long term terms
of the health of children over the next several decades
and the general well being of children who were not

(26:06):
harmed by things like school closures. So doctor Fauci has
been thoroughly discredited. It is a bit demoralizing to see
him continue to make the rounds in the evening news
and have so many Americans deferring to his authority. I'm
not sure what he would have to do further to
discredit himself or what it would take for people to

(26:29):
stop listening to him. But I think the explanation is
actually along the lines of what he said, and that
the issue has become politicized and for whatever reason, they
see Fauci as the foil to Donald Trump during the
first year of the pandemic.

Speaker 7 (26:45):
I think it was sort of framed.

Speaker 8 (26:47):
That way during during the initial months of the pandemic
when Trump was still in office, and there's just many
many people hanging on to Fauci as savior.

Speaker 7 (26:57):
Fauci is the man of science who's going to.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Tell us what to do.

Speaker 8 (27:01):
I think more and more Americans are waking up to
the fact that this man has been discredited, that not
only has he.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Has he.

Speaker 8 (27:12):
Told lie after lie to the American people, but he's
done it in some cases in order to cover up
the fact that his own NIH was funding gain of
function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology by way
of this nonprofit called Eco Health Alliance. That story has
been pretty well unpacked now and pretty well told, and

(27:33):
you can trace the funding, and so his grambling to
cover up the NIH and his potential own role in
the origin of this pandemic should be the thing that
I think ultimately discredits him as an authoritative voice. He's
conflicted and he's trying to cover his own tracks.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
He's also talking about asymptomatic spread.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
He's all over the plays.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Like you mentioned on every dagone news show, run in
his mouth. Here he was on MSNBC.

Speaker 9 (28:05):
We were saying things in the beginning, wear a mask
or not. How the virus is spread. I mean, originally
it was felt understandably but incorrectly by the CDC that
it is spread by the same way that fluid spread, namely,
mostly by droplets, when in fact, most of the transmission
is not only not droplets, it's by aerosol, but also

(28:30):
fifty to sixty percent of the people who transmitted have
no symptoms at all. We didn't know that in the beginning.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
My problem with doctor is not that people didn't know.
The problem is they acted like they knew. That's my problem.
That's right. They acted like they knew.

Speaker 8 (28:46):
And actually some people were challenging that consensus, and they
were silenced, they were censored, they were slandered in some cases,
and now they've been vindicated. Of course, there's been no
apology to the people who were saying this almost from
the very beginning, and I'm not sure why he's still
pushing the notion that it was spreading asymptomatically. There's plenty

(29:09):
of evidence now that asymptomatic spread was not a significant
driver of the pandemic. I think those who pushed masking,
those who pushed social distancing lockdown policies, needed this myth
of asymptomatic spread to justify those unprecedented and harmful policies.

(29:31):
And the reason they needed that is when people were sick,
they could be told to stay home. But we're trying
to initiate a policy where everyone, whether they're sick or healthy,
whether they have symptoms or not, is being told that
there are a potential threat to your existence. Right, so
you have to mask up, even if you're not symptomatic.
You have to stay six feet apart, you have to

(29:53):
stay home, you have to not.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Go to school.

Speaker 8 (29:56):
Once once we realize that a symptomatic spread was not
a major driver of the pandemic, the supposed justification for
all those harmful policies drops out, and so I think
what you see here is doctor Fauci continuing to spread
myths that have no scientific basis. Maybe they could have

(30:17):
been entertained as hypotheses in the first few months of
the pandemic when we were still trying to figure things out.
They can no longer be entertained as hypotheses, and they
certainly shouldn't be put forward as conclusions the way he's doing,
they've been discredited.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Tell me about this Supreme Court case you're involved in.
I know the Supreme Court has some opinions drop on
Thursday Friday.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Which one are you involved in? What's going on? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (30:41):
So, I'm a plaintiff in a case originally called Missouri v. Biden,
now known as Murphy v. Missouri, and the plaintiffs in
that case are challenging the federal government and alleging that
the government has been pressuring and coercing social media companies
to censor disfavored information online, so censoring people.

Speaker 7 (30:58):
Who are critical of the government's pandemic policies.

Speaker 8 (31:00):
We now know that there was a lot of censorship
related to the twenty twenty election, and we're discovering as
we get more and more information on discovery from subpoena
and from depositions, that censorship was happening on other issues
of public importance as well over the last four years.
So we presented evidence to the court and the Court
has issued an injunction against five federal agencies, including the

(31:24):
White House and the CDC, and the FBI and the
Surgeon General, saying basically, you have to cea desist.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
You have to.

Speaker 8 (31:32):
Stop trying to pressure social media companies to censor critics
of the government's preferred policies.

Speaker 7 (31:38):
The government appealed all the way to the Supreme Court.

Speaker 8 (31:40):
We had oral arguments in January, and we anticipate possibly
a decision from the Supreme Court on that injunction either
tomorrow or Friday. So we're eagerly waiting to see if
the Supreme Court will uphold what.

Speaker 7 (31:54):
Four federal judges have already done.

Speaker 8 (31:56):
We've had a judge at the District Court in Louisiana,
the Fifth Circuit, in a three judge panel unanimously upheld
that injunction against the government, and I anticipate the Supreme
Court will do the right thing and uphold the injunction
as well. I think that's going to be very important,
certainly going into an election where the government cannot and

(32:16):
should not be censoring election related information online, but also
for other issues of public importance, like trying to get
to the bottom of what happened during the COVID pandemic.

Speaker 7 (32:28):
It's important that were able to.

Speaker 8 (32:33):
Pose dissident opinions online, opinions that time and again have
been vindicated. And the idea that the government is in
any position to judge what is and is not misinformation
is almost laughable, since as we saw during COVID, the
government was among the biggest purveyors of misinformation.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
That's a fact. Doctor. Thank you for what you do.
Please you come back anytime, Thank.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
You, sir. All Right.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
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They're not passively after our kids. They are after your kids,
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Speaker 10 (34:30):
Well, she said to me. They said to me, she prefers.
They them, I got a tattoo of it so that
I would remember. And every time I say she she goes.
Your tattoo isn't worth that. I'm like, all right, smartty pants.
But they said to me after we were having the
non binary discussion, they said, Mommy, do you think you're
non binary, and I said, I really don't. She said,

(34:52):
They said to me, Mommy, there are some kids in
my class who don't even know their gender. So, like
an idiot, I say tell them next time they're in
the bathtub to look down. If it's a hot dog,
they're a boy, and if it's not, they're a girl.
Which then she says, yeah, they say, Mommy, that's their sex.
That's binary. I'm talking about their gender and gender is infinite.

(35:19):
Gender is infinite.

Speaker 11 (35:20):
Where does a ten year old get those words?

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Do you have any idea?

Speaker 10 (35:24):
I have no life. No, And I said to her,
where do you? Where did you find that? Where did
you say? She said some things. I just know there's
an amiss. People know they're gay. Correct.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
I feel so old. I'm only forty two, but I
really feel so old.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah. I can't imagine where the poor daughter of the
lesbian activists got the idea to be a nutball anyway.
Joining me now Christine Jurgen, host of speak Out by
Students for Life, which I love, and Jill Simonian, director
of outreach for Prager You Kids, which is also a
money organization. Jill, it's very obvious that these horrendous demons

(36:09):
calling themselves mothers are abusing their children on purpose, right,
everyone can see this that this is abuse.

Speaker 11 (36:17):
Well, you know, I look at this, Jesse, and you
know the first instinct as a mother, as someone who
is I've always said, I'm obsessed with truth. I look
at this and you kind of laugh and you chuckle
because it's very far fetched and ridiculous what's coming out
of her mouth. However, the more important feeling that comes
right after that initial giggle of mine is that I'm very,

(36:40):
very sad, and this is very tragic because this child
is being raised to be perpetually confused, and that is
not good for the child. That is not good for
a family unit, that is not good for a community,
that is not good for a country. So it's extreme,
with extreme sadness that I actually view this clip that
she shared with us.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
No, it is, and I'm glad you bring up that part,
that the human element part of it not rosy o'donald.
She can throw herself in the Pacific for all I care,
But this is the daughter, a precious, innocent child, being wrecked,
having her life wrecked before she even has her first boyfriend,
which apparently is not going to happen anytime soon, Christine,
Why does this seem to happen to all these celebrities.

(37:19):
Why is this so common with all the celebrities that
they roll out their new puppies every now and then?

Speaker 12 (37:25):
You know, honestly, I think a lot of it has
to do with the fact that celebrities aren't necessarily paying
attention to their children. We've got other people who are
raising them. They have nanny's or they go to a school,
and the school is pushing this leftist gender ideology that
you can be anywhere or be anything under the sun.
I mean, think about it, How does a ten year
old even know that they were infinite genders when she

(37:46):
says some things, I just know that's not true. You
don't just know that. No one just knows that, and
especially not a ten year old. So I think we
need to be asking ourselves where is this coming from?
And a lot of times it's through social media apps.
There's this social contagion where we seek wanting to change
their genders, and is through schools. It's through outside sources.
And if you're a parent, you don't know where your

(38:07):
child came up with this idea that they could be
a different gender, you need to do better parenting.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Chill.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Let me ask you, are we finally digging in on
this issue as a nation. I know there's a million
ROSI O'Donnell's out there, but it does feel like they
pushed this maybe a little bit too.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Far that all the norms and normas.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Who don't pay attention to this crap woke up one
day and they found out that the social studies teacher
wanted to cut little Billy's penis off, and they realized
that we're dealing with a whole different animal.

Speaker 11 (38:39):
Yeah, what I'm hearing, and I'm here in California, So
you know what starts in California often started many, many
years ago and is now finally coming to light across
the rest of the nation with people looking around and saying,
what the heck's happening around here in California. It started,
I want to say, decades ago, and it is being

(39:00):
so forcefully pushed through our public school system. I don't know, Jesse,
if you've heard about a school district here in southern California,
Chino Valley Unified Schools. Just last year they finally began
they have a school board with very strong grounded reasonable
leadership now and that school board began pushing back against

(39:23):
our Attorney General Rob Bontas, saying that parents must be
informed if their child at school wants to change pronouns
or change genders, because this push for this gender ideology
through schools is so pervasive now, and it's been happening
for such a long time that now it is becoming
mainstream and reasonable parents who maybe weren't paying attention before

(39:47):
finally are looking around and saying, what.

Speaker 7 (39:50):
Is going on?

Speaker 11 (39:52):
But it's because we've been asleep and it began it
was starting to be pushed through the public school system
where without parental consent, Christine, you're about.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Eight thousand years younger than I am. Is this something
young people are accepting or rejecting? Look, I can only
speak for my sons. They're thirteen and fifteen, and them
and their friends are so hardcore against this stuff. It
actually rattles me sometimes and that's amazing. But as every
now and then they'll say something and I'll be all,

(40:23):
my goodness, that is a rejection of what they're seeing.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Are you seeing that?

Speaker 12 (40:28):
I do see a lot of young people who are
rejecting this notion. I see a lot of millennial parents
as well, who are rejecting this notion. I have a
sixteen year old son, and I have a seven year
old daughter and a five year old daughter. And what
I'm seeing is that parents don't want their children to
learn this stuff and then they are able to imbart
their values to their children, and children are saying, wait,

(40:48):
this doesn't make any sense. And it takes a parent
willingly trying to indoctrinate their child in order to make
them think that this is okay and that this is normal.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Jill, why would a parent want to one doctor nate
their child.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
It's still it's still something I can't get my mind around.
Even Rosie O'Donnell and her sick head with the crew
cut on it, I'm sure on some level loves her daughter, right,
So why would why would you do that?

Speaker 11 (41:18):
Well, people have been fooled and confused and what some
a word that one of my very very smart friends,
Sam Soorbo, if you know her, she she has. She
taught me many years ago that people have been schooled,
and we have been schooled, all of us, myself included,

(41:39):
many years ago, under this false veil called inclusivity. And
I've started calling this radicalized kindness. That's a quote quote
unquote radicalized kindness to the point where we yes want
our children to be kind. We want to raise them
to abide by the Golden rule, to treat others as

(41:59):
they want to be treated. We want to enforce in
our schools the concept of kindness and treating each other
with dignity and respect. And everyone does, in fact deserve
dignity and respect. We believe that here at Prager, you kids,
but people have been schooled so radically to be kind
that there has now been an abandon been total abandonment

(42:23):
of what is true and what is not. And again
this is happening through bureaucrats pushing this with the teachers' unions,
corrupt teachers' unions, through our public schools, pushing this concept
of what I call radicalized kindness to the point that
you abandon all truth, so that nonsensical ideas like gender

(42:44):
ideology and teaching children as young as kindergarten that you
can be a boy or a girl and you can
flip flop in between and there is no binary and
all of these nonsensical things we're teaching them. Oh, no,
you must accept to be kind because we all want
to be kind, but we've abandoned true and that's the
problem in our schools and communities.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
No doubt we have Jill Christine, thank you both so much.
Come back soon. That was awesome. All right, we have
light in the mood.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
You didn't think we were just going to let the
day go by without celebrating Juneteenth?

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Did you? Hang on?

Speaker 1 (43:27):
All right, it is time to lighten the mood. And
look today, it's June nineteenth. It's Juneteenth, and you didn't
think me sensitive Jesse was just going to let an
entire show go through without honoring a holiday.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
So let's take back for.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
A moment and honor not only Juneteenth, but the brave
civil rights warriors who have made days like this possible.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
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