July 5, 2024 • 34 mins
How the deep state formed? Is it back tracking when it comes to it's support of Biden? Biden’s disregard for those who made the ultimate sacrifice for their country.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is a Jesse Kelly show. Our three of the
Jesse Kelly Radio Show starts now. My name is Sean Parnell.
I am in the chair for the man Jesse Kelly.
I'm a New York Times bestselling author, I'm a combat veteran,
and I am a humble servant of America. And man,
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oh man, this is the show is just flying by out.
Like I said, our three, thank you all for being
with us. We are going to talk all things the
deep State, the history of the deep State, why the
Chevron doctrine going down in flames is a huge win
for this country. My theory, I got theories, I got
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lots of them, but my theory on what's next for
the deep State, and hopefully we've got time trying to
cram all this into a three hour show. But gold
Star families, they are abandoning Joe Biden, and it's important
that we celebrate and remember gold Star families in the
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sacrifice of both them and their loved ones on behalf
of a grateful nation. So I want to talk right
off the top about COVID, and I got to give
a shout out to my amazing wife, Commander Melanie. She
runs Fort Parnell. She is incredible. I was running for
Congress at the height of COVID, and it was a crazy,
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crazy time to run for Congress. I mean, think about it.
All you do is try to campaign in public and
raise money. Well, all public events shut down, and everybody
all of a sudden didn't want to contribute to a
campaign because they didn't know what the future held for them.
COVID was an unbelievable time of uncertainty. But one person
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in my life at that moment saw through the noise.
And I'm sure that there were many people out there
in America, probably rare, but many people out there in
America that thought like my amazing wife did. But she
saw exactly what was happening two weeks to slow the spread.
If the government can force us into our homes, can
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lock us down, can tell us that our loved ones
must die alone. If the government can do all of
this to us, and we simply just relinquish our freedom
without challenging, without questioning anything, and will we ever get
it back? And she's right, because when the government takes
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freedom so you almost lose it forever. I mean, think
back to the Patriot Act. I remember and believe me, America.
My views on this have changed substantially. After nine to
eleven the Patriot Act. I was a college kid, joined
the military. After nine to eleven, Towers just went down
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and wanted to go to Afghanistan fight for my country.
Believe with that American flag on my shoulder, the might
and power of the US military at my back, I
could accomplish anything. Patriot Act, Oh my gosh, well it's
named Patriot. Well, of course I'm a patriot. Of course
I support it. Wrong, terrible. We lost that freedom. The
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government spying on the American people want it would be
very difficult to get it back. But my wife, she
did not buy any of the government narrative foisted on
us during COVID, refused to wear a mask anywhere she went.
She was amazing, it's a paper mask. What's a paper
masking to do it? It's a virus. And even at
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the time I would, even if I would get uncomfortable,
she said, nope, the government. Here's a line. The government
stepped over it. They don't get to tell tell me
what to do. And all the while we would try
to take flights, sir, we'd try to walk through a
grocery store, and people would say, it's the law. You've
got to wear your mask. It's a federal requirement. I mean,
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think back at all of the things Fauci and Burks
did in the name of COVID and telling us to
wear a mask. But there's no law requiring us to
wear one. So where does that authority come from? And
this brings me to my point, and that's the deep state.
Call it the blob, call them unelected bureaucrats, I don't
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care what you call them. But the deep state is real.
And it seems like the media is finally starting to
wake up because, I mean, for years it was a
conspiracy theory that didn't exist, created by right wing crazy conservatives.
Semaphore headline scared Biden aid sounds an alarm. Here's the
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assert this person would like to get across. It's unclear
to some inside the West wing policy process which policy
issues reach the president and how major decisions go into
an opague circle that includes White House Chief of Staff
Jeff Zeinz, who talks to the President regularly. In return, concluded,
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the big exception to this pattern they set is foreign policy.
So Nate Silver, who's buying large a liberal said, I
guess the deep state is real. So let's talk about
how we got here. Something that's often misunderstood. It's very
existence denied. Right it's conspiracy theory. And that is the
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tangled web of power in the United States federal government.
And I'm not talking about our elected officials House, Senate, Democrat, Republican.
They are, without questioning, part of our federal government. But
in today's day and age, they're just like figureheads, just
have a ceremonial role. Now why things don't get done
because most members of the House and the Senate, Yeah
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they got some power, but real hard to get things done.
But what I'm talking about right now, the deep state.
And again this is inspired by cynical Publius on Twitter
and x He's just one of the best accounts out there.
You should go check him out. But the Constitution was
designed to limit federal power relative to states and the people.
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The Constitution, remember, is a contract between people and government,
which was intended to limit the side and scope of
the federal government. Put very simply, Congress makes the laws
and the president and forces them. That's the basic idea
that's the founders intended. Early federal agencies like the War Department.
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You see, they came to fruition and existed in the
first place because they were tied directly to the president's
clearly defined constitutional powers. Learned this again, cynical Publius, shout
out to you, my friend. But all of this started
shifting in eighteen eighty seven with the creative the Interstate
Commerce Commission. It's a pivotal moment when Congress began transferring
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its lawmaking responsibilities to federal agencies. And think like this,
anybody that holds a cabinet level position, those are the
agencies I'm talking about the EPA right, the Department of Education,
the Department of Defense, And under progressive presidents and Republican
presidents alike, this trend accelerated, and so you had the
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government grow at an unprecedented rate. You had new federal
agencies springing up left and right, which in turn meant
more lawmaking authority handed over to the executive branch cabinet
level officials who then report directly to the president, thereby
expanding presidential power beyond its original constitutional limits intended by
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our founding fathers. And over time, and thank god, the
Supreme Court just overturn this, but even judicial powers were
absorbed by the executive branch. Many of these agencies handle
their own they have their own courts handled the disputes.
And that brings us to today where we have a
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deep state filled with unaccountable elected bureaucrats making rules that
affect our lives. And that's why the Chevron decision, where
the Supreme Court struck a blow to the heart of
the deep state, was just so important and it's not
talked about enough. This federalist headline, Supreme Court strikes a
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blow to the administrative state, overturns the Chevron doctrine. The
nineteen eighty four Chevron doctrine established by the Environmental Protection
Agencies EPA authority to enforce the Clean Air Act, allowing
federal bureaucrats to read their own interpretations into what Congress
authorized agencies to do. Justice Roberts wrote that the President
gave bureaucratic agencies too much power and argued for the
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judiciary to step in, noting that the Administrative Procedures Act
requires courts to exercise independent judgment. Boom. That is a
huge deal. So how would this manifest itself in real life?
Will President turns to a member of his cabinet and says, hey,
I don't have the constitutional power to do this. Wink wink, nod, nod,
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So let's maybe try to use the Sevron doctrine to
get it done again. Unelected bureaucrats, unaccountable bureaucrats. American people
have no voice to combat these bureaucrats. Think about vaccine mandates,
think about ATF and gun control regulations, folks. The deep
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State has been involved in everything, everything, and we've got
to curtail their power. There is simply no pathway forward
in this country for a bunch of unelected bureaucrats to
chart our course. That's why we have elected members of
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the House in the Senate to be our voice, to
be our representation. So we're gonna talk about that and
so much more more about the deep State in the
history of the deep State when we come back on
the Jesse Kelly Radio Show. Stick with Us Jesse Kelly
returns next. We are back here on the Jesse Kelly
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Radio Show. My name is Sean Parnell in the chair
for the Great Jesse Kelly. We've been talking about the
deep State and how he got here and after Biden's
disastrous debate performance. I mean a guy can barely string
together ot coherent sentence. He's an animated corpse in every
sense of the word. I mean, all of a sudden,
I mean, of course it's completely disingenuous, but all of
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a sudden, the media, wait, oh my gosh, Joe Biden,
Joe Biden is not even capable of running the country.
Will who's running the show now? Behind the scenes, And
now we come to fight out that there is in
fact a deep state. They, the unelected bureaucrats, do hold
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an enormous amount of pool, which means that they are
usurping the authority of not just our constitutionally elected representatives,
but we the people. And I had a buddy that
worked in the White House in very close proximity to
President Trump. And this was back when the media was saying, oh,
of them, deep state, you crazy conspiracy theorists, it's a
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deep state. It's soundly you're you're just a conspiracy theorist.
But my buddy, who is like the exact opposite, super
super data driven guy is not a conspiratorial person at all,
calls me up one day He's like, oh my god,
Sean this is crazy. The deep state is absolutely real,
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and they stifle President trump agenda in a million different ways.
Any I get it. The deep state does sound a
little conspiratory. Oh, I get it, And it sounds sinister,
like something out of a James Bond movie. Would make
the great title of a fiction thriller. But he was saying, well,
look they it's like they'll stifle the president's jenda. The
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President issues an executive order and order from the Oval Office,
they take a piece of paper with that order written
on it, and they put it in somebody's inbox, and
then they pass it to another inbox and then all
of a sudden, it stalls out. It doesn't get implemented
because it gets trapped in the calcified bureaucracy, in the
complex maze that is our federal government. And I want
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you to remember something. This is dangerous for a lot
of different reasons. But government bureaucracies, as they grow, they
get more powerful. And as the more powerful they get,
the more impact they have in our day to day lives.
The more impact they have, the more powerful they get.
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Seems like there's a direct correlation between that and a
complete and utter lack of transparency government bureaucracies. Here's what
I want you all to know and learn if you
don't know it already. But government bureaucracies protect themselves first, last,
and always. Transparency isn't a part of the equation. And
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so what do I mean by that? Do you remember
back in twenty fourteen, the VA secret wait lists where
veterans were desperate to get health care. The Iraq and
Afghan war were at their height. Veterans were desperate for
health care and they were dying before they could receive
the care that they need need, And when the VA
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was questioned about it, with the VA said no, everything's fine,
We're seeing patients on time. Everything's fine. So their first
impulse was to lie, because as time war on, it
became apparent that there was a secret wait list and
because of that lack of transparency, veterans died. That's how
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this affects our lives. So we've been talking about the
history of the deep state and how we got here
and how government agencies protect themselves always. Well, now you
have a guy like Donald Trump on the scene. Donald
Trump has said numerous numerous times, they're they're going after you.
I'm just in the way, and he has made it
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part of his campaign message to dismantle the deep state,
what some call an extra constitutional power structure. His goal
is to take power from the executive branch. This is
very important, so stick with me here. He wants to
take power from the executive branch with him as he
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is the president. The president is the executive branch, and
he wants to return it to the rightful constitutional authorities. Essentially,
give the power back to the people. See, that's what
leadership is all about. I learned this on the battlefield.
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Leaders don't take power and hoard power. I mean, we
have lots of representatives that do that in Congress every day.
But leadership is about investing the power that you have
into other people, empowering them to be leaders. And that's
essentially what Donald Trump is doing here, giving power back
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to the people. He's doing everything that he can to
reduce his executive power, to reduce the power that he has.
Yet you what the reason why I'm telling you this
is this fake narrative being pushed by the media. Oh
that Donald Trump is hitler. Oh my gosh, if Donald
Trump gets elected, he'll destroy our democracy. Donald Trump is
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basically hitler. Well, isn't it interesting? Well, actually, let me
ask you a question. How many dictators do you know
America that get rid of their power, that reduce their
own power. It's a laughable, laughable propaganda talking point, you see, folks,
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I talk about the deep state, and I talk about
COVID because I believe that the horrors that were pushed
on the American people to vax mandate loved ones dine alone.
It's clear that our intelligence agencies were involved in some
of that. It's clear that our intelligence agencies were involved
in some way, shape or form of the twenty twenty
election and have been involved in the direction of our
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country in a way that is not natural for some
time now. There is no pathway forward for our nation
without a Congress and a president who are laser focused
on dismantling the deep state. None. The deep state has
always been there. They used to work in the background,
barely a whisper heard from them, But today that's not
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the case. They are brazen with their attempts to thwart
the will of the American people. Sewed up next is
the deep state backtracking. You're gonna hear my theory about
where they're at at this particular moment in time. Stay
with us. The Jesse Kelly Show is the Deep State? Backtracking.
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You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Radio Show. My name
is Sean Parnell in the chair for the man Jesse
Kelly himself. It's an honor to be here. Thank you. Gosh.
The show is flying by. We're in the home stretch.
So while we're talking about this, Biden is literally on
ABC right now denying the poll numbers. He's denying that
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Democrats are trying to push him out of the race.
He's denying that if the election we're held tomorrow, he
would lose in an historic landslide, all things being equal,
And that ties in a little bit actually directly with
what I'm going to talk about now, and is that's
the deep state and have they realized that things are
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too far gone for them to have an impact? You See,
part of my job when I was in the army
was heck, I suppose you could say part of the
job of an effective military officer was to analyze the enemy.
I was in the light infantry. Our job, our mission
was to close with and destroy the enemy, and we
did that. But it's always hey, break things down most
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likely enemy response, most deadly enemy response plan for every
single contingency. And I think, especially when you're operating in
an asymmetric environment like Afghanistan, that means thinking outside the
box a little bit, not always relying on the field manual.
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And that's where my head's at right now. You see
the deep state, the blob, unelected bureaucrats, call them whatever
you want if you're not comfortable with the deep state,
but the deep state is only effective when they operate
from the shadows with plausible deniability. Now, look, yes we here.
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If you're listening to this show, you probably see what's
going on clear as day. But the vast majority of Americans, well,
these folks, well intended Americans, folks who maybe aren't paying
attention to politics every day. Maybe some of these people
haven't even heard of the deep state. And as long
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as these people are asleep, the deep state can function effectively.
The deep state thrives on being able to throw their
hands up and say it wasn't me anytime that something happens. Oh,
it's just a conspiracy theory. If people actually see what
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they're doing firsthand, it's over done. All the machinations of
the deep state aren't effective any longer, and if people
do wake up, I believe that people would not tolerate it.
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See I think the deep state I want I'm talking
about the deep state are intelligence communities who have clearly
been involved in our country for far too long in
a way that is not healthy. You need an example,
think the Hunter Biden laptop. Fifty one intelligence These aren't
weren't just fifty one intelligence agents. These were people that
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were former heads of the CIA and NSA. But I
think the deep state is walking a very dangerous line
here because more people are awake now than ever before,
and if they haven't fully opened their eyes yet, they're
about two people. I saw what happened to Trump since
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he came down that golden escalator in twenty sixteen. The
Russia hoax, the PPT polks, the Mueller probe, Hunter Biden's laptop,
Impeachment one, impeachment two. I have a list, a comprehensive
list of hoaxes that is forty seven long. J six
was an insurrection ivermectin doesn't work and as dangerous. Accusing
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Trump of inciting violence on January sixth, despite his calls
for a peaceful protest Russian bounties on American troops. Remember
the Covington teen kid. Label that kid as racist. Twenty
twenty elections is the most secure election in American history.
The list goes on and on and on. So I
think that the deep state's involved in all of this,
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and only the deranged Trump derangement syndrome sick of fans
think that this is normal. Many deep Staters, I think
it's fair to say, or traditional neo con Republicans, Haley Republicans,
and coming from that world the military, I can tell
you that it's one hundred percent true. It doesn't make
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them bad people. It's just all they know. It's the
world they live in. And in twenty twenty, I believe
the deep State and many never Trump Republicans within the
deep State believe that Biden would be the lesser of
two evils. They believe that he was just old moderate
lunchbucket Joe. And that makes sense because these Republicans fundamentally
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do not understand the moment that we are in. They
they're trapped in this weird DC bubble where everybody sort
of believes the same thing. They don't understand the threat
of the Democrats. That's so I could see them saying, well, hell,
it's just Joe Biden. He's moderate, he works with both sides.
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I think this was a g rave miscalculation. I believe
that many of these folks realize their mistake now. In
other words, they see that Biden is a threat to
the United States, both domestically and abroad. Do you remember
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that interview that Bill Barr gave on Fox News where
he unprovoked comes out and endorses Trump. And, by the way,
Bill Barr was the man who was at the center
of killing any investigation into the twenty twenty election. Bill
Barr comes out and endorses Trump, And in that interview
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he said, a couple of these said the corruption and
subversion of our institutions. He said, I think it's my
duty to pick the person who will do the least
harm to this nation. For a long time, I believe
that these misguided deep state Republicans believe that Trump was
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the bigger danger. Well now they see it's Biden. And
now you have Bill Barr coming out and saying, oh, hey,
I'm endorsing Trump because Trump is the lesser of two.
Even now, I don't think Trump is a danger to
our republic. At all. But think about this. For the
most part, these misguided Republican deep Staters, they have families
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that live here in America. They don't want America to collapse.
So if Bill Barr is saying this on national media,
it's like a signal of the rest of the deep Staters.
Bill Barr is a chief law enforcement officer in the country.
So here's what I think. I think that the deep
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Stators believe that Trump is going to win and there's
not much they can do to stop it unless they
expose themselves fully to the American people, which will ultimately
lead to their demise. I think that they believe that
while Trump is still a threat, wrongly so that Biden
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is worse. I think that they remember what four years
under Trump was like. It was nothing like it is now.
And I think that they are doing everything that they
can to put guardrails on the next Trump presidency. Ten
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years of support for Ukraine make it damn near impossible
for Trump to fire government employees, bog Trump down with
fake investigations. As I told you, there are a million
ways they can potentially stifle another Trump presidency, and I
think they may say hey, rather than expose ourselves more
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by escalating tactics and as a consequence, completely destroy our
case abilities in our nation in the process. Let's take
our chances with Trump makes sense, right If the election
were held today, there's very little that the deep State
could do to stop him. I mean, yeah, they've tried
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to bring elections, but they don't want the nation to fall.
And think about it. Anytime these idiots medal in things,
they make things exponentially worse. Look at their foreign policy,
look at everything that they've done in Iraq, Afghanistan, all
over the Middle East. I think the Deep State is backtracking.
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I think that they see Donald Trump as someone who's
going to win. Too big to rig is a thing,
and Donald Trump can turn people out in such great
numbers that he out for forms on election day beyond
the fraud. I think the deep State knows it. They
see the writing on the wall. They don't want to
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compromise their capabilities that are used to working behind the scenes.
So mark my words, bookmark this episode. I think the
deep State is going to backtrack on this one. I
know it's a bold prediction, but gold Star wifs hates
Joe Biden and our gold Star families don't like them
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much either. Let's talk about that as we close out
the show today. Stick with us truth attitude, Jesse Kelly.
We are back here on the Jesse Kelly Radio Show
in the home stretch here, folks. It is something that
we like to do. And by the way, my name
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is Sean Parnellen for the man Jesse Kelly. But I
know this is important to him and it's important to
me as well. And one of the things that we've
got to do here in this country is remember those
who volunteer to serve this country and those who have served,
and those who have given their last full measure in
defensive freedom in our great country. I believe that the
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gap between those who protect freedom on a day to
day basis in this country and those who enjoy it
has never been greater. You know, if you went back
to a time, say World War Two, and walked into
a neighborhood, you'd be hard pressed to find somebody who
is not affected by that war. Everybody had skin in
the day and the game, a son that was fighting,
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a donner doing Rosie the Riveter stuff. I mean, everybody
was involved. American car companies were churning out army combat
vehicles and support of the war. American corporations were fully
behind the war effort. Well, today, only point four percent
of this country has served this nation during what was
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the longest period of war in our nation's history. So
a very heavy burden is being carried by a very
small percentage of Americans, and the cost has been very,
very high. And Joe Biden said on the debate, and
the debate where he really didn't do well. I suppose
when the bar is whether or not you crap your pants,
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it's a very low bar for Joe Biden. But he
really didn't do well. He said that no Americans had
died under his presidency. Of course we know that's not true.
Thirteen Americans died during the disastrous surrender in Afghanistan. In
the media just kills me as they try to push
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this guy out. The media, they've adopted this talking point. Well,
Joe Biden, he's a good man, but he should do
the right thing for our country. Joe Biden is a
good man, He's been a good press. No, Joe Biden
is not a good man. Everybody that knows him, everybody
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that that has met him knows he's not a good man.
He's been a pathological liar his entire life. The tragic
accident that took his wife in his child's life, he
said that the driver who did that drank his lunch.
Truth is that's not even that's not true. The man
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was sober in the accident was caused tragically by his wife,
and no one's pointing fingers. Don't wish that upon anybody,
but Joe Biden went out there and lied about that
man for the rest of his life, caused untold damage
in the life of that man and his family already
having to carry around that trauma. So I'm tired of
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this notion that Joe Biden's a good man. He's not
a good man. And our service members, not all of them,
but most of them don't like him either. In gold
Star families, they've given a lot, they've lost. Gold Star
families for those of you all don't know, lost a
loved one in service to this country. Mom, dad's spouse.
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Terrible loss. And that's why I say families serve too.
Families bear the burden. Family sacrifice too. It's not just
the serviceman service woman. Listen to this gold Star wife
talk about Biden saying nobody died. I've gotten a.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Lot of text calls and messages about Joe Biden's claim
that he's lost no service members in the last four
years under his administration. And everyone finds that ironic because
my husband died seven months ago while deployed under the
Biden administration, and everyone expects me to be really angry
about that statement about him not remembering that sacrifice that
my husband made.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
But here's a little secret. I was already angry because
when I.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Had to fly for twelve hours for the first time
with my sixteen lent Bold of Dover Air Force Base,
eight hours after learning my husband died to receive his
remains back into the United States. You know who couldn't
be bothered to show up to that dignified transfer, Joe Biden.
I had to get on a fly eight hours after
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I learned my husband died and fly for twelve hours
with a breastfeeding sixteen month old and sit in the
rain at one am to welcome my husband his remains
in a flag covered casket back onto you as soil.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
But he couldn't be bothered. So no, I'm not angry
about his statement.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I've been angry for a long time, and I've been
knowing that he does not give am That's hard.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Commander and chief, the word commander predisposes comes before chief.
He has a responsibility to be there for families of
the fallen. He has a responsibilit for American service men
and women who come home in body bags, to show up.
I said earlier on this show that so much about
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leadership is about showing up. I have written letters home
to soldiers that I've lost. It's the hardest thing in
the world to do. I have gone to funerals for
brothers that I lost in combat. Hardest thing in the
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world to do. Every bone in my body, every aspect
of my soul screams, you don't want to go, you
don't want to experience that pain. But you show up.
You honor the fallen. A nation does not A nation
that does not honor those who sacrifice for it is
a nation that does not last long. And what hope
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do we have if our commander in chief doesn't care. Well,
The hope rests with you, the American people. So harken
back to what I said to kick off the show
about staying the course, stay the course, fight for this country.
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It's all on the line in twenty twenty four. Got
to leave it all out on the field to save
this country. So keep the faith, take action in your community,
do not be silent, and as always, folks, see you
next time. God bless you all, and God bless this
amazing country that we call home. Take care and good night.
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See you next time, America.
This is a Jesse Kelly show. Our three of the
Jesse Kelly Radio Show starts now. My name is Sean Parnell.
I am in the chair for the man Jesse Kelly.
I'm a New York Times bestselling author, I'm a combat veteran,
and I am a humble servant of America. And man,
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oh man, this is the show is just flying by out.
Like I said, our three, thank you all for being
with us. We are going to talk all things the
deep State, the history of the deep State, why the
Chevron doctrine going down in flames is a huge win
for this country. My theory, I got theories, I got
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lots of them, but my theory on what's next for
the deep State, and hopefully we've got time trying to
cram all this into a three hour show. But gold
Star families, they are abandoning Joe Biden, and it's important
that we celebrate and remember gold Star families in the
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sacrifice of both them and their loved ones on behalf
of a grateful nation. So I want to talk right
off the top about COVID, and I got to give
a shout out to my amazing wife, Commander Melanie. She
runs Fort Parnell. She is incredible. I was running for
Congress at the height of COVID, and it was a crazy,
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crazy time to run for Congress. I mean, think about it.
All you do is try to campaign in public and
raise money. Well, all public events shut down, and everybody
all of a sudden didn't want to contribute to a
campaign because they didn't know what the future held for them.
COVID was an unbelievable time of uncertainty. But one person
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in my life at that moment saw through the noise.
And I'm sure that there were many people out there
in America, probably rare, but many people out there in
America that thought like my amazing wife did. But she
saw exactly what was happening two weeks to slow the spread.
If the government can force us into our homes, can
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lock us down, can tell us that our loved ones
must die alone. If the government can do all of
this to us, and we simply just relinquish our freedom
without challenging, without questioning anything, and will we ever get
it back? And she's right, because when the government takes
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freedom so you almost lose it forever. I mean, think
back to the Patriot Act. I remember and believe me, America.
My views on this have changed substantially. After nine to
eleven the Patriot Act. I was a college kid, joined
the military. After nine to eleven, Towers just went down
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and wanted to go to Afghanistan fight for my country.
Believe with that American flag on my shoulder, the might
and power of the US military at my back, I
could accomplish anything. Patriot Act, Oh my gosh, well it's
named Patriot. Well, of course I'm a patriot. Of course
I support it. Wrong, terrible. We lost that freedom. The
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government spying on the American people want it would be
very difficult to get it back. But my wife, she
did not buy any of the government narrative foisted on
us during COVID, refused to wear a mask anywhere she went.
She was amazing, it's a paper mask. What's a paper
masking to do it? It's a virus. And even at
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the time I would, even if I would get uncomfortable,
she said, nope, the government. Here's a line. The government
stepped over it. They don't get to tell tell me
what to do. And all the while we would try
to take flights, sir, we'd try to walk through a
grocery store, and people would say, it's the law. You've
got to wear your mask. It's a federal requirement. I mean,
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think back at all of the things Fauci and Burks
did in the name of COVID and telling us to
wear a mask. But there's no law requiring us to
wear one. So where does that authority come from? And
this brings me to my point, and that's the deep state.
Call it the blob, call them unelected bureaucrats, I don't
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care what you call them. But the deep state is real.
And it seems like the media is finally starting to
wake up because, I mean, for years it was a
conspiracy theory that didn't exist, created by right wing crazy conservatives.
Semaphore headline scared Biden aid sounds an alarm. Here's the
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assert this person would like to get across. It's unclear
to some inside the West wing policy process which policy
issues reach the president and how major decisions go into
an opague circle that includes White House Chief of Staff
Jeff Zeinz, who talks to the President regularly. In return, concluded,
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the big exception to this pattern they set is foreign policy.
So Nate Silver, who's buying large a liberal said, I
guess the deep state is real. So let's talk about
how we got here. Something that's often misunderstood. It's very
existence denied. Right it's conspiracy theory. And that is the
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tangled web of power in the United States federal government.
And I'm not talking about our elected officials House, Senate, Democrat, Republican.
They are, without questioning, part of our federal government. But
in today's day and age, they're just like figureheads, just
have a ceremonial role. Now why things don't get done
because most members of the House and the Senate, Yeah
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they got some power, but real hard to get things done.
But what I'm talking about right now, the deep state.
And again this is inspired by cynical Publius on Twitter
and x He's just one of the best accounts out there.
You should go check him out. But the Constitution was
designed to limit federal power relative to states and the people.
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The Constitution, remember, is a contract between people and government,
which was intended to limit the side and scope of
the federal government. Put very simply, Congress makes the laws
and the president and forces them. That's the basic idea
that's the founders intended. Early federal agencies like the War Department.
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You see, they came to fruition and existed in the
first place because they were tied directly to the president's
clearly defined constitutional powers. Learned this again, cynical Publius, shout
out to you, my friend. But all of this started
shifting in eighteen eighty seven with the creative the Interstate
Commerce Commission. It's a pivotal moment when Congress began transferring
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its lawmaking responsibilities to federal agencies. And think like this,
anybody that holds a cabinet level position, those are the
agencies I'm talking about the EPA right, the Department of Education,
the Department of Defense, And under progressive presidents and Republican
presidents alike, this trend accelerated, and so you had the
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government grow at an unprecedented rate. You had new federal
agencies springing up left and right, which in turn meant
more lawmaking authority handed over to the executive branch cabinet
level officials who then report directly to the president, thereby
expanding presidential power beyond its original constitutional limits intended by
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our founding fathers. And over time, and thank god, the
Supreme Court just overturn this, but even judicial powers were
absorbed by the executive branch. Many of these agencies handle
their own they have their own courts handled the disputes.
And that brings us to today where we have a
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deep state filled with unaccountable elected bureaucrats making rules that
affect our lives. And that's why the Chevron decision, where
the Supreme Court struck a blow to the heart of
the deep state, was just so important and it's not
talked about enough. This federalist headline, Supreme Court strikes a
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blow to the administrative state, overturns the Chevron doctrine. The
nineteen eighty four Chevron doctrine established by the Environmental Protection
Agencies EPA authority to enforce the Clean Air Act, allowing
federal bureaucrats to read their own interpretations into what Congress
authorized agencies to do. Justice Roberts wrote that the President
gave bureaucratic agencies too much power and argued for the
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judiciary to step in, noting that the Administrative Procedures Act
requires courts to exercise independent judgment. Boom. That is a
huge deal. So how would this manifest itself in real life?
Will President turns to a member of his cabinet and says, hey,
I don't have the constitutional power to do this. Wink wink, nod, nod,
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So let's maybe try to use the Sevron doctrine to
get it done again. Unelected bureaucrats, unaccountable bureaucrats. American people
have no voice to combat these bureaucrats. Think about vaccine mandates,
think about ATF and gun control regulations, folks. The deep
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State has been involved in everything, everything, and we've got
to curtail their power. There is simply no pathway forward
in this country for a bunch of unelected bureaucrats to
chart our course. That's why we have elected members of
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the House in the Senate to be our voice, to
be our representation. So we're gonna talk about that and
so much more more about the deep State in the
history of the deep State when we come back on
the Jesse Kelly Radio Show. Stick with Us Jesse Kelly
returns next. We are back here on the Jesse Kelly
(10:31):
Radio Show. My name is Sean Parnell in the chair
for the Great Jesse Kelly. We've been talking about the
deep State and how he got here and after Biden's
disastrous debate performance. I mean a guy can barely string
together ot coherent sentence. He's an animated corpse in every
sense of the word. I mean, all of a sudden,
I mean, of course it's completely disingenuous, but all of
(10:52):
a sudden, the media, wait, oh my gosh, Joe Biden,
Joe Biden is not even capable of running the country.
Will who's running the show now? Behind the scenes, And
now we come to fight out that there is in
fact a deep state. They, the unelected bureaucrats, do hold
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an enormous amount of pool, which means that they are
usurping the authority of not just our constitutionally elected representatives,
but we the people. And I had a buddy that
worked in the White House in very close proximity to
President Trump. And this was back when the media was saying, oh,
of them, deep state, you crazy conspiracy theorists, it's a
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deep state. It's soundly you're you're just a conspiracy theorist.
But my buddy, who is like the exact opposite, super
super data driven guy is not a conspiratorial person at all,
calls me up one day He's like, oh my god,
Sean this is crazy. The deep state is absolutely real,
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and they stifle President trump agenda in a million different ways.
Any I get it. The deep state does sound a
little conspiratory. Oh, I get it, And it sounds sinister,
like something out of a James Bond movie. Would make
the great title of a fiction thriller. But he was saying, well,
look they it's like they'll stifle the president's jenda. The
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President issues an executive order and order from the Oval Office,
they take a piece of paper with that order written
on it, and they put it in somebody's inbox, and
then they pass it to another inbox and then all
of a sudden, it stalls out. It doesn't get implemented
because it gets trapped in the calcified bureaucracy, in the
complex maze that is our federal government. And I want
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you to remember something. This is dangerous for a lot
of different reasons. But government bureaucracies, as they grow, they
get more powerful. And as the more powerful they get,
the more impact they have in our day to day lives.
The more impact they have, the more powerful they get.
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Seems like there's a direct correlation between that and a
complete and utter lack of transparency government bureaucracies. Here's what
I want you all to know and learn if you
don't know it already. But government bureaucracies protect themselves first, last,
and always. Transparency isn't a part of the equation. And
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so what do I mean by that? Do you remember
back in twenty fourteen, the VA secret wait lists where
veterans were desperate to get health care. The Iraq and
Afghan war were at their height. Veterans were desperate for
health care and they were dying before they could receive
the care that they need need, And when the VA
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was questioned about it, with the VA said no, everything's fine,
We're seeing patients on time. Everything's fine. So their first
impulse was to lie, because as time war on, it
became apparent that there was a secret wait list and
because of that lack of transparency, veterans died. That's how
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this affects our lives. So we've been talking about the
history of the deep state and how we got here
and how government agencies protect themselves always. Well, now you
have a guy like Donald Trump on the scene. Donald
Trump has said numerous numerous times, they're they're going after you.
I'm just in the way, and he has made it
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part of his campaign message to dismantle the deep state,
what some call an extra constitutional power structure. His goal
is to take power from the executive branch. This is
very important, so stick with me here. He wants to
take power from the executive branch with him as he
(14:56):
is the president. The president is the executive branch, and
he wants to return it to the rightful constitutional authorities. Essentially,
give the power back to the people. See, that's what
leadership is all about. I learned this on the battlefield.
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Leaders don't take power and hoard power. I mean, we
have lots of representatives that do that in Congress every day.
But leadership is about investing the power that you have
into other people, empowering them to be leaders. And that's
essentially what Donald Trump is doing here, giving power back
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to the people. He's doing everything that he can to
reduce his executive power, to reduce the power that he has.
Yet you what the reason why I'm telling you this
is this fake narrative being pushed by the media. Oh
that Donald Trump is hitler. Oh my gosh, if Donald
Trump gets elected, he'll destroy our democracy. Donald Trump is
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basically hitler. Well, isn't it interesting? Well, actually, let me
ask you a question. How many dictators do you know
America that get rid of their power, that reduce their
own power. It's a laughable, laughable propaganda talking point, you see, folks,
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I talk about the deep state, and I talk about
COVID because I believe that the horrors that were pushed
on the American people to vax mandate loved ones dine alone.
It's clear that our intelligence agencies were involved in some
of that. It's clear that our intelligence agencies were involved
in some way, shape or form of the twenty twenty
election and have been involved in the direction of our
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country in a way that is not natural for some
time now. There is no pathway forward for our nation
without a Congress and a president who are laser focused
on dismantling the deep state. None. The deep state has
always been there. They used to work in the background,
barely a whisper heard from them, But today that's not
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the case. They are brazen with their attempts to thwart
the will of the American people. Sewed up next is
the deep state backtracking. You're gonna hear my theory about
where they're at at this particular moment in time. Stay
with us. The Jesse Kelly Show is the Deep State? Backtracking.
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You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Radio Show. My name
is Sean Parnell in the chair for the man Jesse
Kelly himself. It's an honor to be here. Thank you. Gosh.
The show is flying by. We're in the home stretch.
So while we're talking about this, Biden is literally on
ABC right now denying the poll numbers. He's denying that
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Democrats are trying to push him out of the race.
He's denying that if the election we're held tomorrow, he
would lose in an historic landslide, all things being equal,
And that ties in a little bit actually directly with
what I'm going to talk about now, and is that's
the deep state and have they realized that things are
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too far gone for them to have an impact? You See,
part of my job when I was in the army
was heck, I suppose you could say part of the
job of an effective military officer was to analyze the enemy.
I was in the light infantry. Our job, our mission
was to close with and destroy the enemy, and we
did that. But it's always hey, break things down most
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likely enemy response, most deadly enemy response plan for every
single contingency. And I think, especially when you're operating in
an asymmetric environment like Afghanistan, that means thinking outside the
box a little bit, not always relying on the field manual.
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And that's where my head's at right now. You see
the deep state, the blob, unelected bureaucrats, call them whatever
you want if you're not comfortable with the deep state,
but the deep state is only effective when they operate
from the shadows with plausible deniability. Now, look, yes we here.
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If you're listening to this show, you probably see what's
going on clear as day. But the vast majority of Americans, well,
these folks, well intended Americans, folks who maybe aren't paying
attention to politics every day. Maybe some of these people
haven't even heard of the deep state. And as long
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as these people are asleep, the deep state can function effectively.
The deep state thrives on being able to throw their
hands up and say it wasn't me anytime that something happens. Oh,
it's just a conspiracy theory. If people actually see what
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they're doing firsthand, it's over done. All the machinations of
the deep state aren't effective any longer, and if people
do wake up, I believe that people would not tolerate it.
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See I think the deep state I want I'm talking
about the deep state are intelligence communities who have clearly
been involved in our country for far too long in
a way that is not healthy. You need an example,
think the Hunter Biden laptop. Fifty one intelligence These aren't
weren't just fifty one intelligence agents. These were people that
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were former heads of the CIA and NSA. But I
think the deep state is walking a very dangerous line
here because more people are awake now than ever before,
and if they haven't fully opened their eyes yet, they're
about two people. I saw what happened to Trump since
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he came down that golden escalator in twenty sixteen. The
Russia hoax, the PPT polks, the Mueller probe, Hunter Biden's laptop,
Impeachment one, impeachment two. I have a list, a comprehensive
list of hoaxes that is forty seven long. J six
was an insurrection ivermectin doesn't work and as dangerous. Accusing
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Trump of inciting violence on January sixth, despite his calls
for a peaceful protest Russian bounties on American troops. Remember
the Covington teen kid. Label that kid as racist. Twenty
twenty elections is the most secure election in American history.
The list goes on and on and on. So I
think that the deep state's involved in all of this,
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and only the deranged Trump derangement syndrome sick of fans
think that this is normal. Many deep Staters, I think
it's fair to say, or traditional neo con Republicans, Haley Republicans,
and coming from that world the military, I can tell
you that it's one hundred percent true. It doesn't make
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them bad people. It's just all they know. It's the
world they live in. And in twenty twenty, I believe
the deep State and many never Trump Republicans within the
deep State believe that Biden would be the lesser of
two evils. They believe that he was just old moderate
lunchbucket Joe. And that makes sense because these Republicans fundamentally
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do not understand the moment that we are in. They
they're trapped in this weird DC bubble where everybody sort
of believes the same thing. They don't understand the threat
of the Democrats. That's so I could see them saying, well, hell,
it's just Joe Biden. He's moderate, he works with both sides.
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I think this was a g rave miscalculation. I believe
that many of these folks realize their mistake now. In
other words, they see that Biden is a threat to
the United States, both domestically and abroad. Do you remember
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that interview that Bill Barr gave on Fox News where
he unprovoked comes out and endorses Trump. And, by the way,
Bill Barr was the man who was at the center
of killing any investigation into the twenty twenty election. Bill
Barr comes out and endorses Trump, And in that interview
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he said, a couple of these said the corruption and
subversion of our institutions. He said, I think it's my
duty to pick the person who will do the least
harm to this nation. For a long time, I believe
that these misguided deep state Republicans believe that Trump was
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the bigger danger. Well now they see it's Biden. And
now you have Bill Barr coming out and saying, oh, hey,
I'm endorsing Trump because Trump is the lesser of two.
Even now, I don't think Trump is a danger to
our republic. At all. But think about this. For the
most part, these misguided Republican deep Staters, they have families
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that live here in America. They don't want America to collapse.
So if Bill Barr is saying this on national media,
it's like a signal of the rest of the deep Staters.
Bill Barr is a chief law enforcement officer in the country.
So here's what I think. I think that the deep
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Stators believe that Trump is going to win and there's
not much they can do to stop it unless they
expose themselves fully to the American people, which will ultimately
lead to their demise. I think that they believe that
while Trump is still a threat, wrongly so that Biden
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is worse. I think that they remember what four years
under Trump was like. It was nothing like it is now.
And I think that they are doing everything that they
can to put guardrails on the next Trump presidency. Ten
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years of support for Ukraine make it damn near impossible
for Trump to fire government employees, bog Trump down with
fake investigations. As I told you, there are a million
ways they can potentially stifle another Trump presidency, and I
think they may say hey, rather than expose ourselves more
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by escalating tactics and as a consequence, completely destroy our
case abilities in our nation in the process. Let's take
our chances with Trump makes sense, right If the election
were held today, there's very little that the deep State
could do to stop him. I mean, yeah, they've tried
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to bring elections, but they don't want the nation to fall.
And think about it. Anytime these idiots medal in things,
they make things exponentially worse. Look at their foreign policy,
look at everything that they've done in Iraq, Afghanistan, all
over the Middle East. I think the Deep State is backtracking.
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I think that they see Donald Trump as someone who's
going to win. Too big to rig is a thing,
and Donald Trump can turn people out in such great
numbers that he out for forms on election day beyond
the fraud. I think the deep State knows it. They
see the writing on the wall. They don't want to
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compromise their capabilities that are used to working behind the scenes.
So mark my words, bookmark this episode. I think the
deep State is going to backtrack on this one. I
know it's a bold prediction, but gold Star wifs hates
Joe Biden and our gold Star families don't like them
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much either. Let's talk about that as we close out
the show today. Stick with us truth attitude, Jesse Kelly.
We are back here on the Jesse Kelly Radio Show
in the home stretch here, folks. It is something that
we like to do. And by the way, my name
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is Sean Parnellen for the man Jesse Kelly. But I
know this is important to him and it's important to
me as well. And one of the things that we've
got to do here in this country is remember those
who volunteer to serve this country and those who have served,
and those who have given their last full measure in
defensive freedom in our great country. I believe that the
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gap between those who protect freedom on a day to
day basis in this country and those who enjoy it
has never been greater. You know, if you went back
to a time, say World War Two, and walked into
a neighborhood, you'd be hard pressed to find somebody who
is not affected by that war. Everybody had skin in
the day and the game, a son that was fighting,
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a donner doing Rosie the Riveter stuff. I mean, everybody
was involved. American car companies were churning out army combat
vehicles and support of the war. American corporations were fully
behind the war effort. Well, today, only point four percent
of this country has served this nation during what was
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the longest period of war in our nation's history. So
a very heavy burden is being carried by a very
small percentage of Americans, and the cost has been very,
very high. And Joe Biden said on the debate, and
the debate where he really didn't do well. I suppose
when the bar is whether or not you crap your pants,
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it's a very low bar for Joe Biden. But he
really didn't do well. He said that no Americans had
died under his presidency. Of course we know that's not true.
Thirteen Americans died during the disastrous surrender in Afghanistan. In
the media just kills me as they try to push
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this guy out. The media, they've adopted this talking point. Well,
Joe Biden, he's a good man, but he should do
the right thing for our country. Joe Biden is a
good man, He's been a good press. No, Joe Biden
is not a good man. Everybody that knows him, everybody
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that that has met him knows he's not a good man.
He's been a pathological liar his entire life. The tragic
accident that took his wife in his child's life, he
said that the driver who did that drank his lunch.
Truth is that's not even that's not true. The man
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was sober in the accident was caused tragically by his wife,
and no one's pointing fingers. Don't wish that upon anybody,
but Joe Biden went out there and lied about that
man for the rest of his life, caused untold damage
in the life of that man and his family already
having to carry around that trauma. So I'm tired of
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this notion that Joe Biden's a good man. He's not
a good man. And our service members, not all of them,
but most of them don't like him either. In gold
Star families, they've given a lot, they've lost. Gold Star
families for those of you all don't know, lost a
loved one in service to this country. Mom, dad's spouse.
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Terrible loss. And that's why I say families serve too.
Families bear the burden. Family sacrifice too. It's not just
the serviceman service woman. Listen to this gold Star wife
talk about Biden saying nobody died. I've gotten a.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Lot of text calls and messages about Joe Biden's claim
that he's lost no service members in the last four
years under his administration. And everyone finds that ironic because
my husband died seven months ago while deployed under the
Biden administration, and everyone expects me to be really angry
about that statement about him not remembering that sacrifice that
my husband made.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
But here's a little secret. I was already angry because
when I.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Had to fly for twelve hours for the first time
with my sixteen lent Bold of Dover Air Force Base,
eight hours after learning my husband died to receive his
remains back into the United States. You know who couldn't
be bothered to show up to that dignified transfer, Joe Biden.
I had to get on a fly eight hours after
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I learned my husband died and fly for twelve hours
with a breastfeeding sixteen month old and sit in the
rain at one am to welcome my husband his remains
in a flag covered casket back onto you as soil.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
But he couldn't be bothered. So no, I'm not angry
about his statement.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I've been angry for a long time, and I've been
knowing that he does not give am That's hard.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Commander and chief, the word commander predisposes comes before chief.
He has a responsibility to be there for families of
the fallen. He has a responsibilit for American service men
and women who come home in body bags, to show up.
I said earlier on this show that so much about
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leadership is about showing up. I have written letters home
to soldiers that I've lost. It's the hardest thing in
the world to do. I have gone to funerals for
brothers that I lost in combat. Hardest thing in the
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world to do. Every bone in my body, every aspect
of my soul screams, you don't want to go, you
don't want to experience that pain. But you show up.
You honor the fallen. A nation does not A nation
that does not honor those who sacrifice for it is
a nation that does not last long. And what hope
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do we have if our commander in chief doesn't care. Well,
The hope rests with you, the American people. So harken
back to what I said to kick off the show
about staying the course, stay the course, fight for this country.
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It's all on the line in twenty twenty four. Got
to leave it all out on the field to save
this country. So keep the faith, take action in your community,
do not be silent, and as always, folks, see you
next time. God bless you all, and God bless this
amazing country that we call home. Take care and good night.
(34:37):
See you next time, America.
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