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What is project 2025, and why did Trump disavow it?

Trying to clean out the swamp hit a little too close to home for The System.

Trying to get Biden to shuffle out the back door.

Communists are fantastic at creating idols for the hive mind to hate.

Whoopi Goldberg being a little too honest on The View.

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a Wednesday. It's
hook day. You have made it over halfway through the week,
and it's gonna be an awesome show tonight, and we're

(00:31):
gonna have fun and talk about things. Things like Project
twenty twenty five. What is this thing everyone's talking about?
Someone wants to know. We'll talk about that. We're gonna
talk more about the economy being taken away, the country
itself being taken away, and why it's being taken away.
The Biden drama. Another person in the military cot spilling

(00:54):
secrets or trying to online, another patriotic company that you
should avoid, like the plague they're going after, the Supreme
Court email. So much more coming up tonight on the
world famous Jesse Kelly Show. Now, let's talk. Let's just
do our daily update on the Biden drama. Is he staying?

(01:15):
Is he going? Is he staying? Is he going? Everyone
knows where I where I fall on that. I've been
saying he's going for two years, so I'm not going
to change my tune now. But there's an interesting little
wrinkle that's happening. You see everyone, the major Democrat power players.

(01:37):
They keep elluding to some future decision Joe Biden might make. Now,
I just want to recap this for you. This is
from just a couple days ago. Joe Biden got up,
gave a speech and look, there are wishy washy statements

(01:58):
and then there are stone statements. There aren't very many
ways you can interpret this.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Oh, I guess what they're trying to push me out
on the race. Let me say as clearly as I can.
I'm staying in a race. I'll beat Donald Trump. I
will beat him again at twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Certainly sounds like Joe Biden has made a decision, does
it not. Does it sound like Joe was saying, I'm
thinking about it. I'm not sure. I gotta talk to
my hag wife. No, that's a pretty declarative statement. I'm
staying in the race, which, when you pair that with
little sound bites like this one from Grandma Vodka, raises

(02:45):
some interesting questions.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Aside, if he is going to run, we're all encouraging
him to make that decision because time is running short.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
You want him to run.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I want him to do whatever he decides to do.
And that's that's the way it is. Whatever he decides
to go with, let's just hold off whatever you're thinking.
Either tell somebody privately, but you don't have to put
that out on the table until we see how we
go this week.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Hey, I just want him to decide whatever he happens
to decide. And it's not as if that was just
Nancy Pelosi taking that line. It's been senator after senator
after congressman. Here was Congressman Tim Kaine from today. I
have complete confidence that Joe Biden we will do the
patriotic thing for the country, and he's going to make

(03:37):
that decision. He's never disappointed me.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
He's always put patriotism and the country ahead for himself,
and I'm going to respect for this Issuan.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Huh So, Joe Biden got up and said, I'm running.
They're trying to push me out, but I'm running for
president and a big Donald Trump said it plain of day.
You heard it. I heard it, Everyone heard it. Nancy
Pelosi gets up and says, I'm just looking forward to
him making a decision. I hope he makes a decision soon.

(04:10):
Tim Kaine gets up. Now, I'm just look, I know
he's gonna do the right thing whenever he decides, well,
what do they say? Tell you what? Pause on that
for a minute. I've told you about my oldest son,
youngest son. You know what they do. You know my family,
you know me by now. My youngest son is a swimmer.
You probably know. He's a fish. Can't get him out

(04:31):
of the water. And he's just always been a natural
fish in the water. Plus, he's a kelly. He's got
big hands, big shoulders, big feet. He's made to be
a swimmer, right, So he swims and he's just starting out.
Believe it. He's not good, but he's not bad, improving fast.
He's just a natural in the water and could be
probably very good, if ever, if he works hard enough

(04:51):
for it. So a couple of mornings, a couple of
mornings ago, I asked him. I said, hey, you're gonna
go for a swim. You go swim some laps. Take
you down to the pool, swim some laps. You're gonna
go for a swim. And he said, nah, I don't
think about it today. I don't think so today. I
actually feel a little tired. I'm not going to do
that today. And I said, oh hm, but you could

(05:15):
go for a swim. Look, the decision is yours. It's
decision is totally yours up to you. You know, it's
not practice or anything like that. If you want to
go for a swim, you can. And he said to
me again, he said, you know, probably not today. I'm
a little tired, slept in. Probably not today. And I
gave him about ten fifteen seconds and I said, again,

(05:37):
you know, you could swim today if you wanted to.
What's going on there, Well, I'm letting him know. We
call it guided discovery. I'm letting him know what he
should be doing. Joe Biden got up and declared in

(05:57):
front of God and everybody he was running again, running
for president. I've made my decision. They're trying to push
me out, and now you have all these big shot senators. Well,
whenever he decides, I hope he decides soon. We all
know exactly what's happening here. And that brings us to

(06:21):
an interesting question. Biden still says he's staying. Nancy Pelow,
see Tim Kane, many others. Well, he's not sure. I
hope he makes a decision. I'm sure he'll make a decision.
It seems as if right now one of two things
are happening, and honestly, I don't know which. You know
what my prediction has been. You know what I think

(06:42):
is going to happen. But what's happening right now is
one of two things. Either it's a they really are
begging him to leave, he's refusing to leave, and they're
going to end up being stuck with him. So they're
kind of trying to put it, at least some of

(07:03):
them are put it, trying to put it as nicely
as humanly possible. Whatever he decides, I hope you decide.
Or even look, Michael Bennett, that dirt ball senator out
of Colorado, he called for him to leave, but even
when he was asked about it in person, he even
did that. Well, that was going to behind closed doors.
Senator John Tester and Senator Shared Brown all said during

(07:24):
that lunch that you don't think Bresident Biden can win
in twenty twenty four. Is that true?

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Well, it's true that I said that, and I did
say that behind closed doors, and you guys and others
asked whether I had said it, and that is what
I said, So I figured I should come here and
say it publicly. Donald Trump is on track.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
I think well, I said it. It was behind closed doors.
So either A, what we're seeing is the truth and
they're just begging him, hoping. Let's just plead with him
for another few days. Please Joe leave, please leave, please
just go. Maybe that's really maybe what we're seeing is reality.

(08:03):
Or there's my theory and it's just a theory. Now,
it's a theory based on what I've seen the system
do in the past. My theory is option B. Right now,
they're in the asking phase. This is the Hey Joe,
would you mind? Hey, Joe, do the right thing. Hey Joe,

(08:25):
I'm asking, Hey, I'm kind of begging. Hey, Joel, could
you step aside for the good of the party, because
we all know it's not for the good of the country,
for the good of Democrats. Could you step aside? Maybe
move along?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Could you?

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Hey? Joe? Could you? Could you? Would you? Maybe there's
a phase coming after the asking phase that Joe Biden
won't enjoy quite as much as he's enjoying this one.
I'm sure the Biden family right now, I'm sure they
feel like the world is against them from what we

(08:59):
unders stand from all the reporting on it. That is
how they feel the world's against us. No one believes
in us. It's US against the world. And I'm sure
they think right now it feels like everything's coming down
on top of them. But man, are they sorely mistaken
if they believe this is as bad as it can get,

(09:23):
if the system has it out for you, it is
frightening the things the system can do and will do
to you and your family. Let's do keep in mind
something we've brought up on the show by Hunter Biden's
own admission, own admission, there are other laptops, and he

(09:51):
believes hostile foreign actors are in possession of those laptops.
We already know. We've had delegates from foreign intelligence agencies,
we now know NATO intelligence agencies coming forward saying, hey,
we are a little worried about Joe. What can the

(10:16):
system do? I would ask the Bidens if they think
this is as bad as it can get, take a long,
hard look at what Donald Trump has gone through for
the past few years and ask yourself if you're ready
for that. It's going to be more than just Grandma
Vodka on TV talking to you like you're a big

(10:39):
boy who needs to decide to eat his green beans.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
To suicide. If he is going to run, we're all
encouraging him to make that decision because time is running short.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
You want him to run.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
I want him to do whatever he decides to do,
and that's the.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Way it is.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Whatever he decides, we go in. Let's just hold off
whatever you're thinking. Either tell somebody privately, but you don't
have to put that out on the table until we
see how we go this week.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
This is the asking phase, Joe. I suggest you make
the right decision now, because after the asking phase comes
the telling phase, and that I don't think you will
enjoy quite as much. We'll talk about a couple more
things when it comes to this, but I want to
move on. I can't do this all the time. We're
going to do some Project twenty twenty five talk and

(11:32):
more before we get to that. Do you want to
avoid the kind of brain fog that has you call
the NATO secretary an intellectual wiger.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
So much of the programs we made the alliance is
thanks to the Secretary. He's a man of integrity, an
intellectual rigor, a calm temperament. Moment of crisis.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
I have no idea what word he was going for
there but I'm one hundred percent positive he needs a
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(12:14):
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(12:36):
Is he smarter than everyone who knows? Does he think so? Yeah?
The Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse Kelly Show
on a Wednesday. All right, you know what? That's enough
palace intrigue stuff. I've had enough of it. Stay or go, Joe,
my goodness, make your decision. I here my vodka says

(12:59):
you should do. Remember I should note you can email
the show and you should Jesse at Jessekellyshow dot com.
Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Now I'm gonna get
to this, Jesse. I see my liberal friends going absolutely
crazy over Project twenty twenty five. It seems to be

(13:22):
the new thing for them to take down. What is it?
And why are they in such an uproar over it? Okay?
What is it? What is this Project twenty twenty five? Okay,
let's first of all discuss what it is, and then
what your friends think it is and why your friends
are all over it, because those are two totally different things. Now,

(13:44):
Project twenty twenty five it's put together by a huge
conglomerate of people, Heritage Foundation. I'm sure you've heard of
Heritage Foundation. They've been the biggest conservative think tank for
ages for freaking decade, for most of my life, maybe
all my life, but they're big time. Okay, Heritage Foundation,

(14:06):
it's their label on it. But there were so many
different people who got together to put this together. What
kind of people? Honestly, it's people from every single walk
of the right. There are all kinds of Trump people
all over this, former Trump staffers all over this. There
are all kinds of libertarian types all over this, nationalist

(14:27):
types all over this, border hawk types all over this,
pro lifers. There are a bunch of different walks of
life where they came together and they put together something
called Project twenty twenty five. Now, at its core, what's
really its main job or the main idea behind it,
The main idea behind it is this. You've heard the saying,

(14:51):
I'm sure maybe you've said the saying, Personnel is policy.
Personnel is policy. That's a big, big, big, big thing
in the business world, and the sports world, in the
every kind of world, DC world, all the other that's
a big thing. Now, what's the idea An online database

(15:16):
where people, including you, If this is something that interests you,
you can go online and put in your information, You
put in who you are, what you want, your resume,
all these things like an online personnel database. And the
idea is the next president, which of course everyone at
this point in time is holding out for it to
be some Trump and not Joe Biden, but the next president.

(15:39):
But it's not limited to Trump. I should know after Trump,
this will still be here the future Republican presidents. They
need to gut all the communists scum out of the
federal government and replace those people. I didn't say this
was my idea, but the idea behind it is you
run the communists scum out of the federal government and

(16:00):
then replace those people with people who are not openly
hostile to your agenda. That's the idea behind it, all right,
So don't think that this expires when Trump expires, when
Trump's term expires, if he gets elected, or if he loses,
it doesn't expire. The idea is, they said, there are
too many layers of the bureaucracy openly hostile to Republican leaders.

(16:25):
We want to give those Republican leaders options. Go in,
fire him, her, him, her, him her, Who do you rehire?
Let's go to Project twenty twenty five and find people
who are kind, who are understanding or even better proponents
of your plan, and you push those people forward. Now,

(16:49):
there are platforms that there are ways this is not
going to work, and there are ways this is going
to work. First let's explain it's not going to work
because you can't replace the people in the federal government
and expect to have everything work out. You have to
eliminate the federal government positions. We have to eliminate entire

(17:13):
bureaucratic agencies to save the country. That's a fact. So
that's why it won't work, but it is a very
very very good idea, and it's better than having dirty
comedies in there. Ideally you wouldn't have these people at all,
but if you have to have people, you're better off
having your people in there. There are policy positions on it,

(17:34):
and many of the policy positions are ones you would love.
Some you may hate. But if you were to go
down a what I would consider my policy positions, those
would be the policy positions of most of Project twenty
twenty five. Close the border, cut spending, pro life, things
like that. That is what it is. It's a broad,

(17:57):
ambitious agenda for how we move forward, who we move
forward with, and the things we want them to do.
That's what Project twenty twenty five is. Now, why did
Trump disavow it? Why did Trump disavow it? Why are
all these people on the left screaming about it? You

(18:19):
can find Joe Biden. He put out a video today.
In fact, we'll grab that for you. Biden put out
a video today Project twenty twenty five. They're all over
the news. We have to stop Project twenty twenty five.
So the Libs are talking about stopping it, and Trump
came out and said, I don't have anything to do
with this. Why let's talk about that. Before we talk
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(18:41):
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(19:02):
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(19:25):
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(19:46):
Spotify iTunes. Oh and I just got this article from
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about how handsome I am. You can now do that
on Spotify as well. So let's let's get those things
rolled up, all right. Quit back to twenty twenty five.

(20:06):
Project twenty twenty five. I already told you what it
is essentially. Yes, it's a policy platform, close the border,
low taxes, pro life, the standard stuff. It's more of
an online database so future presidents don't fill up their
administration with a bunch of useless dirt balls who are
hostile to the administration. That's the idea behind it. And

(20:27):
as I explained already, the people involved in it, there
are a ton of them, and they come from every
walk of the right, whatever walk of the right you're from.
There are people that align with you as part of it.
Trump people, the SANTUS people, pro lifers, border hawks, tax howks,
spending hawks, this group that you name it, nationalists, liberty whatever, whatever,

(20:48):
they're all part of it. They've all had a hand
and putting together the database in this platform. Okay, So
that's really what it is. It's really nothing beyond that.
So question was why her lib friends are going crazy
over it? Pause on that for a moment. We'll come
back to it. Why did Trump come out? Trump came
out and put on social media he has said, I

(21:10):
don't have anything to do with twenty twenty five. Some
of the things on there are totally bonkers. I don't
know any of these people. It has nothing to do
with me at all. Trump got out and publicly washed
his hands of the whole thing. Why well, remember what
we've talked about before. We've seen evidence of this and

(21:30):
if you can't see it now, then you can't see
you're Stevie Wonder. Trump believes the pro life movement is
losing elections for Republicans. He's blasted the pro life movement
publicly after the midterms. Remember he blamed pro lifers. He
was very very clear about that. He has he had
all the abortion language stripped from the Republican platform. That

(21:53):
was a Trump thing. Trump wants this issue to go
away because he believes it hurts Republics at the polls.
And maybe you believe that as well, and it might
be correct. I'm not saying it one way or the other,
but that's what Trump believes. This project twenty twenty five
has a bunch of pro life stuff in it. Trump
is going to run as far and fast away from

(22:16):
anything pro life as he possibly can during this general election,
because he believes that stuff might lose him the general election.
That's why Trump disavowed any knowledge of it. Trump's not
some dummy. He has all kinds of knowledge of it.
It's a bunch of his former staffers to put it together.
He knows the people. But he came out and he said, up, what, mate,

(22:37):
don't know anything about it. Also, that helps for campaign defense.
Now every time a Democrat comes out and says they're
doing twenty twenty five, Trump's gonna do twenty twenty five.
Now everyone has the freedom to retort. Trump said he
doesn't even like twenty twenty five. So there's that. Now,

(22:58):
why do your liberal why are they all up in
arms over it? They're going crazy over it? Well, what
do we talk about when it comes to the communists?
They are outstanding at creating idols, idols for you to
throw tomatoes at, and idols for you to worship. And

(23:21):
they can do this at the drop of a hat.
The part of the reason they can do it so
much better than we can do it, and part of
the reason they can do it so quickly is because
they are herd animals. To be on the left makes
you a herd animal. You don't want necessarily freedom. You
don't want the freedom to think or anything like that.
You want to be told where do I go, what

(23:42):
do I do? Just keep your head down, you do
what you're told. And so they can turn the herd
on a dime. All of a sudden, some dirtball drug
dealer dies in Minneapolis. You can have millions of people
worshiping him, and you can have statues built for him
in American city, in American cities. This say, you can
stroll into multiple cities and look at statues of George Floyd.

(24:04):
Why an idol? They saw an opportunity. How do we
destroy the cops? How do we destroy cities even more? Oh,
look there's a dirt ball. Let's act like it's racist.
We know the stupid herd animals will follow us. Worship
George Floyd. Worship George Floyd, Poor George Floyd. It works
the same, the exact same with idols. They want you
to throw tomatoes at They've done this very effectively with

(24:28):
Donald Trump. That's why your liberal and Pagy cannot lay
out in any specific detail why she dislikes Trump. If
you are a hardcore DeSantis fan who despises Trump. You
can say exactly why, in very specific detail. Your liberal
am pagy. People on the left can never tell you, Oh,

(24:48):
Jesus racist and a misogynist. You can never get an
answer because she's never been given an answer. She's been
told there's the Antichrist, there's Hitler, there's the Antichrist's you hate.
They've done this same thing very very successfully with Project
twenty twenty five. Because it looks like Project twenty twenty

(25:11):
five intends to run the communists out of the federal government.
It has them scared to death, and because it has
pro life language in there, and they believe it will
help them campaign to women. They're trying to hang Project
twenty twenty five around the neck of Donald Trump so
they can say, look, look at the Antichrist, look at

(25:33):
the mobster, look at the monster, the mobster, whatever you
want to call them, Donald Trump. Joe Biden was out
there today, Tody, we'd grab you the audio. Joe Biden
was out there today on social media calling it by
its name, while also giving out a false website that
isn't the twenty twenty five website.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Project twenty twenty five will destroy America. Look it up.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
I'm not gonna give it out here on the show,
but he gave a website out after he said that
that actually directed everyone who watched it to a website
built by the communists with only lies about Project twenty
twenty five. That's a good point, Chris. Chris said, it
seems like they're right over the target. That's exactly right.

(26:18):
That must mean Project twenty twenty five is something worth
looking at your liberal and Peggy the average Democrat in
your life ranting and raving about Project twenty twenty five, this,
and Project twenty twenty five. That they don't know anything
about Project twenty twenty five. And if you simply asked them,

(26:40):
you don't have to respond hostile in a hostile way.
If you want to have a fascinating discussion, ask them
next time what they don't like about it specifically, and
don't don't don't be nice, meaning don't let them get
away with bumper sticker stuff. Oh it's racist, Oh it

(27:00):
is gosh, I didn't know in what way can you
describe for me? In what way? I hate swomen?

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Really, where is that? Where? Did where did you read that?
Could you direct me towards where you read that, because
I want to read up on that. Where did you
read that that it's racist and hates women. And you'll
watch your liberal ant Peggy try to change the subject
faster than speedy Gonzales. It's going to blow you away.

(27:29):
There's no depth. You're liberals. The average liberal in your
life hates it for the same reason they hate everything else.
That's what they've been told to hate. Look if you're
if you're a norm or a norma, and there are
there really aren't any norms or normas who listen to
this show. There are hardcore anti communists, and there are

(27:51):
hardcore communists who hate listen. But if you're a norm
or norma, you live your entire life in a fog
where you're so surrounded by lies you might occasionally get
a glimpse of the truth, or maybe you'll trip over
the truth. That's if you're a norm or a norma.

(28:12):
If you're a Democrat, if you only watch CNN, you
go to an American government school system, an American university,
you consume corporate media, corporate advertising. It's not that you
live in a fog. You live in a world entirely
of make believe. Have you ever seen the movie or

(28:34):
read the book Alice in Wonderland. That's as real as
the average world the Democrat lives in in their mind,
and it is that bad. I've said they are insane,
and I'm not saying that to be insulting, because they
believe one hundred percent things that have no truth to
them whatsoever. Clinically, Democrats are insane. They are. This is

(28:57):
what it is. That's the twenty twenty five talk. Let's
talk a little bit of economy stuff before we do that.
The economy news is bad. I'm I'm just going to
warn you it's bad. It's all bad, and we're all
looking for ways to save money. I understand full well
that it is July tenth, so you do have some time.

(29:18):
But let me ask you. Have you thought about what
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(30:04):
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(30:26):
honest on TV.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
I don't care if he's pooped his pants. I don't
care if he can't put a sentence together. Show me
he can't do the job, and then I'll say, Okay,
maybe it's time to go. I have poopy days all
the time all.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
I do too. Have I ever told you about Giardia.
I haven't told you that story in a long time.
I realize I need to reiterate some of these stories.
So here you go. You're ready for this one. Speaking
of poopy pants, brutal I have. I have had some
ups and downs in life, no doubt about it. I've

(31:08):
had a parasite, not once, but twice. Did you know that.
Let's just do a little rehash and talk about me
before we talk about the economy. We were in the Marines.
I was in the Marines, and you bounce around when
you're in the Marines. When you're in the infantry, you're
always going to different environments to do different kinds of training.

(31:31):
And at some point in time we went and did
mountain warfare training. They're teaching you how to tie knots
and climb rocks, and how do you survive? How do
you kill something? How do you make a fire? How
do the basic stuff? How do you get by in
the mountains? Now, I grew up in the mountains. I
grew up in Bozeman, Montana. That's where we moved when
I was ten years old. So we were always hiking, hunting, fishing.

(31:53):
The mountains are very familiar to me. And there is
one thing my father taught me when I was a
very very very young man, elk hunting with my dad
in the mountains. That crystal clear mountain stream. It looks
so good, and if you stick your little finger in there,
it's so cold, it might have giardia in it. You see,

(32:19):
the general rule this is just as a PSA from
Daddy Jesse to you, because I realize everyone's lift different existence.
We might have a bunch of city slickers out there
who've never left and done time in the wild. So
just as a general rule here, it is the faster
the water is moving, the cleaner the water generally is.

(32:42):
So if you have some stagnant puddle or pond that's
going to be full of bacteria and horrible things, you
want to find water that's as fast as humanly possible.
But again, as my father taught me, that does not
mean it's clean. Why well, animals, you know, hunting gets

(33:04):
a really bad rap. And I admit I don't hunt
much anymore. It just kind of fell out of love
with it. I still fishes, don't hunt much anymore. But
hunting gets a really bad rap. And here's one of
the reasons why. You know, the two ways animals generally
die if they're not shot, they are either eaten by
another animal alive, I might point out, or the most

(33:28):
common is they die of disease. You get old, broken down,
you can't eat, You get a disease, and you die.
What do animals do in general when they get sick?
When they get a disease, you will generally find animals
drifting towards water sources because they can't be as mobile

(33:49):
as they used to be. It's not at all uncommon
if you spend time outside to find sick deer, sick
animals down by the water. You're always gonna find animals
by the water anyway. Well, a sick animal who hangs
out by the water can die in the water or
right by the water. And that brings me to Giardia,

(34:11):
the stomach parasite. You see, Giardia, It lives in these animals.
The animals die, I don't know. I don't actually know
whether or not they die from that or whether it
just creates symptoms. But they die with giardia, and they
die in the water. And that perfectly tasting, clear, cold

(34:32):
water from a mountain stream can actually have a stomach
parasite in you. Now here's the thing about giardia. Giardia.
It's one of those parasites that doesn't hit you the
next day or that day Giardia can take a while

(34:52):
before it hits you. I'm talking weeks before it hits you.
And if you treat it once you try. I'll get
to that. If you treat it, you can think you
took care of it because it kind of went away,
but it didn't actually go away. It can lay dormant

(35:12):
in your system for months and then pop back up
and there you are on the toilet again all day.
So we do mountain warfare training in the Marines. At
some point they always have these specialty schools you can
get picked for depending on a few things. I got
picked for a specialty school called mule Packers. Part of

(35:35):
the reason I got picked to do mule packers, it's
not no, it wasn't my height, Chris, it was my
familiarity with horses and mules. I am certainly no cowboy,
and I don't want to pretend to you like I
am some cowboy or a horse expert by any means.
But look, I've been on horseback multiple times, riding into
the mountains with my father to go hunting for a week.

(35:56):
I know my way around horse. I can ride them,
I can I can handle Okay. So they said, hey, Kelly,
I's experience in this kind of thing. Go do mule
packers and what mule packers was? I loved it. I
thought it was awesome. A lot of the guys hated it.
You get a mule, mules are they're a mixture between
a donkey and a horse. Incredibly sure footed animals, incredible

(36:22):
amounts of weight you can load onto a mule. They
are very very stubborn, you know, stubborn as a mule.
That's a saying for a reason. So they can just
decide they're not going to move and then you're in trouble.
But they're amazing animals. And one of the things about
warfare you should know this from all the history stories
we've told. Logistics is a big, big part of it.

(36:43):
How do you get men and materials from a to b? Well,
if it's on an open plane, if we're doing this
in Omaha, that's not a problem. You walk or dry
or something like that. In mountainous terrain, getting things from
a to B can be bordering on impossible. That's even

(37:05):
with all the modern technology planes and parachutes and everything else.
Getting things from a to b in the mountains can
be a nightmare. So we learned how to pack things
onto mules, and that leads me to getting Giardia next.
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