July 18, 2024 • 37 mins
What’s Biden going to do this Sunday? Democrats are in a panic, not over the Whitehouse come November, but what might come to congress too. What would of happened had the shooter not missed? Would we be in the middle of a civil war? Solo host of The War Room, Natalie Winters. Where is Steve Bannon?
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Let's have some fun on a Thursday. And woo boy,
are things happening right about now all over the place. Yes,
of course it's an ask doctor Jesse Thursday. I will
all kinds of questions out there about early voting.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
What if the.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Assassin had been successful? We have good congressman, no crappy congressman.
Other guests, Megan Kelly's an hour from now. Tons of
things to talk about, but I don't have time to
get into any of that right now because there are
things that are I don't know if I want to
say breaking, kind of breaking, not concrete, but kind of concrete.
So here it is, let me, let me just let
me just give it to you without leading up.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Or taking any more time.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Mark Halperin, he's a journalist, a reputable journalist. I want
to say that this human being may not align with
you or align with me on many things, but this
isn't some hack who doesn't know we're talking ABC News, NBC.
This is a man who's done a lot, and he's
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been around the block, and when he breaks news, he
has sources. He has been quite reliable in the past,
and this came down. I kid you not two minutes
before we came on the area. I was going somewhere
totally different with this, but here it is. I'm going
to read it verbatim. It's his news, not my news.
But this is well. Here it is breaking news. Multiple
(01:45):
sources outline the apparent state of play on Biden at
this time.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Quote these are the points.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
The first point plans to announce withdrawal from nomination as
early as this weekend, with Sunday most likely. John Meacham
is polishing up remarks. Don't worry about who that is.
This is writing a speech. Biden will not resign the presidency.
Biden will not endorse Harris, open convention with Harris and
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about three others. Super delegates will not be allowed to
vote on the first ballot. Don't worry about that inside
baseball stuff. Harris is vetting at least four possible running mates,
including Andy Basher impossibly Shapiro. Basher is Kentucky, Shapiro is Pennsylvania.
(02:40):
More on this fluid situation tonight, and I give you
my word I will keep you posted on that as
it comes out. Now again, I want to stress I
am not bringing you this information. This is not my
breaking news. I want to give credit where credits due.
This is Mark's breaking news. That's one.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Two.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Mark is somebody who generally gets it right. Three when
it's multiple sources. Whenever you read that, when there are
multiple sources involved, just know that is a journalist putting
his stamp on it. He's practically etching it in stone.
(03:22):
This is very likely true. And so look, this is
nothing that is that unexpected. It's something obviously we've talked about.
You and I have talked about for the longest time.
How long how long I've been predicting this has been.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
It's been over two years.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I've been telling you this is coming. But even now
now that it looks like we might be on the
cusp of it, even now, it almost doesn't seem real,
right It almost it seems surreal probably the best way
I can put it, probably a better use of English.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It seems surreal. It's how it seems right now.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And I have a lot of things going through my head,
as I'm sure you do. I'm thrilled that that ball
is going to leave. I am very curious where the
ticket's going to end up.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Are the poll numbers going to look as good for
us after this happens, assuming it does, after this happens,
are the pool numbers going to look as good for
us after as they do? Now? We just had new
pole I'm not going to go over all the pool numbers.
That's so freaking boring. But we just had new poles
come out today, the first really post assassination attempt polls,
and it got worse for Biden all across the board.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
It's a blood bath.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But I will just I'll just tell you this, I personally,
I'm really in some ways I'm gonna miss him.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It's all about treating people with dignity, and it's about
making sure that coming. For example, look at the heat
on getting it because I named a sturing defense good
black man. I named Katanji Brown. I mean because of
the people I've named.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
The black man.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Where are we gonna go for this kind of political entertainment?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
This is there. I said it last night. I'm gonna
miss him in some ways.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
There's nothing funnier in politics than Joe Biden pandering to
black people.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It's as good as it gets.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I would ordinarily be going through black neighborhoods. I'm crowning
the foot working through neighborhoods. I have a tradition every
I close every campaign, no matter what campaign, going into
the projects and going down the East Side. And hey,
jo I know you know just because of refuge letting
nose told me.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
It sounds great. He sounds great. And the black house
he used to go.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
To camp I was in South kinda went to a
going to a black home or a dan Son.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
They talk about it.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
If he's actually leaving, I'm gonna miss him, I'm gonna
miss him a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
All So, look what happened. Well, you and I have
talked about this.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Joe Biden was determined a liability to the system.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
How big of a liability?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Well, last night went out with a big group of us,
went out as me, Clay Buck and some other people
senators and whatnot, and we were just kind of had.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
A couple of beers and we were just cheese kurds and.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Just discussing politics and kind of one of those one
of those inside baseball political conversations that you feel kind
of blessed to be part of. I'm looking around at
one point in time and I'm thinking this life is wild, right,
I'm an idiot.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I have no idea why I'm here.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Anyway, We're having one of these conversations and one of
the people who was there, who will know. I don't
have his permission to use his name or anything. I'm
just going to stress this to you. He's someone who
would know, he says. Democrats on Capitol Hill are in
an absolute panic right now. Not about November. Not about
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November for Joe Biden. I mean not about the White House.
Don't get me wrong. They're very worried about it. They
want to keep the White House, but a lot of
them are almost resigned to the fact it looks bad.
Look Trump survived an assassination attempt and handled it like
a boss. It's going to be very, very difficult to
defeat that guy in Novembers.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It's not about the White House.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Where the panic has set in in Washington, d C.
Among Democrats is the House and the Senate, because there
is a grand canyon's worth of difference between having the
White House and one of the two houses, you know,
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one of the two branches of Congress, and having.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
The White House, the House House, and.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
The United States Senate, especially if you have the United
States Senate with any degree of strength, meaning it's not
fifty one to forty nine if Republicans, If Republicans and
November and they have fifty four seats. That was a
number that was thrown around last night. Fifty four seats,
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fifty five seats in the House. Democrats have no power whatsoever.
And you know communists use their power unlike Republicans. Communists
will use their power. What kind of power am I
talking about? What if Donald Trump assumes the White House?
What if he really intends to drain the swamp, and
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what if he begins to appoint as his various department
heads hardcore anti communists who intend to clean out the
filth from the federal government, And what if the Democrat
senators don't have the power to stop it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
That is why.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You're seeing all these headlines from today. Top Democrats believe
Biden will bow out. Oh Obama believes Biden needs to
reconsider candidacy. Nancy Pelosi urges Biden to drop out of
the presidential race. Chuck Schumer forcefully made the case Biden
should drop out. Biden now receptive that this is why
you're reading all these headlines the panic has set in,
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not about the White House, about every other house, and
that if this turns out to be true, that is
why it will end up being true in the end.
All right, all right, we're gonna get to some ask
doctor Jesse questions because there's so many freaking guests. If
I don't get to him next, I'm never gonna get
to them. So let's dig into some interesting things. Before
we get into these, Let's make sure we're, you know,
(09:45):
not being weak and pathetic, because once we achieve victory,
that's when the hard part starts.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Once we achieve victory.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
If we achieve that victory, it will take fortitude to
do the things necessary to save this country. Winning elections
is just part of it. And if we don't have
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If your testosterone levels are low, fellas, you're done.
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on a Thursday. Of course, Look there's a lot there's
a lot of people here. It's freaking conventions. There's gonna
be a lot of guests. Apparently there's nothing to do
about that. But we do have some really cool ones.
Megan Kelly's joining us, like forty five minutes from now,
(11:24):
Natalie Winners a half hour from now. One of the
decent Congressman Cloud. Michael Cloud joins us, Charlie, there's a
lot going on, but of course it's asked doctor Jesse Thursday. Again,
I'm not going to recap the whole thing for you
as it as it looks right now. This is not
my reporting. It's Mark Halperin's reporting, so I want to
make sure he gets credit. This is a very credible
human being. Sounds like they're putting the finishing touches on
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the Joe Biden is dropping out speech that he is
expected to deliver in some way this weekend. So here
we are. That's enough of that for now. Oh there's
all kinds of stuff we can recap and talk about
next week. We have a whole bunch of ask doctor
Jesse questions, and there are some amazing ones like this one, Jesse,
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what would have happened to our country if the.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Shooter was successful? Civil war?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I've thought about this a lot. I'm guessing you've thought
about this too. It's one of the things that honestly,
when I was laying in bed last night, we got
back after we were all out having fun and talking
politics and things like that, and got back to my room,
and I was a little wired, flipped through the channels.
I don't like TV, turn it off, and I'm just
kind of sitting there thinking, and it hit me again.
(12:38):
I know this probably is weird, but it hit me
again how close we were, We're talking two inches, how
close we were to Donald Trump being gone that. What
does the Republican Convention look like without Donald Trump? Remember
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he hadn't picked a VP by then either, so the
nominee would have been well, I'm gonna get to the personal,
the civil war part of it, but just for the
nomination process alone, how sad and angry would everyone be here?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
They'd be just tearing all.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Of our guts out, and then you have to look,
you still need a nominee. It's horrible and cold and
off as that sounds, the convention would have gone on
and the show must go on, meaning we have to
pick a nominee.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Now, where do you even begin? What do you do?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Do you backtrack your way to the prime? You can't
do that? Do you give it to Don Junior? Honestly,
I thought I had that thought last night. Again, this
is just me talking just off the cuff here. Do
you just let Don Junior have it? Probably would have
made the most sense, keep the Trump coalition to I.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Don't know, but we were two inches from.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
This being not a what if a reality two inches.
And that brings me to the question, what would have
happened civil war? No, I don't believe that, and what
I'm going to say is probably gonna sound harsh, but
you know I can do that from time to time,
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and it's just kind of who I am.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Nothing I can do about it.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
This country, the freedom loving people of this country don't
have it in them to do something like that at
all yet because it hasn't gotten near bad enough yet.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You know, it's not that people aren't waking up. They
are waking up.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
It's not that people aren't getting more involved. They are
getting more involved. You see this over and over and
over again. People are getting more involved, They're digging in.
So it is getting better. But level of apathy from
the quote freedom loving Americans, I have not seen anything
over the last five years, ten years that would indicate
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to me that the freedom loving people of this country
would have risen up and done something. And let me clarify,
there would have been nothing to do that would have
been a good thing. Now let me pause, is that
probably makes you mad, because we would have been freaking out.
We would have been mad, we wanted to do something.
What would you have done? What are you going to
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mobilize an army and do what if the shooters lay
in there, brain's been blown out, he's gone.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Where are you going? What are you doing it?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
It would not have been a civil war, And I'm
grateful for that, because that's the last thing in the
world anybody should ever want. Nobody really wins a civil war,
they really don't. We like to look back fondly on ours,
look at us. So we ended slavery, and of course
that's good, you want to end slavery.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
But that was a horrible, horrible thing. Civil wars are
horrible things.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Countrymen murdering each other in mass that's nothing you should ever,
ever ever want, no matter how mad you get at
the dirty comedies, that should be nothing you ever look
forward to it all. And I don't think it would
have happened there then if if he'd gone, But I
do think I do think there would have been a
collective level of sadness, anger, resentment out there that would
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have been palpable. And I think, you know how we
always talk about what's one of our main goals. One
of our main goals has to be waking up norm
and norma.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You're waking up the norms.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
The guy who you know, of course, he votes Trump
every four years, but he can't be bothered to vote
in a local election. He doesn't get involved in politics,
to watching college foot.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Doesn't give a crap.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
We want him to wake up and get involved, right,
something like that. That's the kind of thing that would
do it. That's the kind of thing that would do it.
And I'm not, obviously in any way saying it would
have been a good thing, but I could see I
could see it taking something like that. It's going to
take something like that to wake up a bunch of norms.
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You me, we can wake up a few, and that
has to.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Be our goal at all times.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Wake them up, wake them up, wakem up these normal
people in our lives, talking to them, getting involved, friends, neighbors, relatives,
getting more involved than they have been. That has to
be our mission. But look what's our dream. Wake them
up in masks, right, they all wake up and they
all get involved. That's that's, of course what we want.
It's going to take something cataclysmic to wake up a
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people this apathetic, and that's just the truth. It's gonna
take a foreign attack. It's gonna say, take something awful,
something we don't want, because that kind of puts us
in a bit of a pickle. Anyway, I think we
have Congressman Michael Cloud coming on. If not, that's gonna
be just fine.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
I love it. He's great. I love him.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
But we have so many asked doctor Jesse questions and
great ones. We just have a ton of stuff to
do on a Thursday. I also need to make sure
we're doing this. I just was talking about an attack.
Remember something. No matter what happens this November, the country
has been filled filled with criminals on purpose, and those
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Speaker 1 (19:27):
True, it's the Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Thursday throat.
I just can't believe that a Republican National Convention. You're
just sitting here. I'm sitting next to Congressman Michael Cloud.
Monica Crowley goes rolling.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
By this place.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
This is a star studed affair, of course, mostly because
I'm here. But anyway, so Congressman and I we were
just talking off air about this whole secret Service thing.
Congressman Michael Cloud, I'm sure you already know one hundred
percent record with the Heritage Foundation. So this this kind
of human being we're dealing with here. Of course, Texas
always does it right.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Actually that's not true.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
We have some dirt balls from Texas, but there's most
of the Texas congressmen are decent, but more importantly, he's
on the Oversight committee.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And you have a little meeting on Monday, don't you.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Yeah, Monday, we'll have a hearing with the US Secret Service.
Then I'm sure it'll be just as transparent and revealing
and all the questions will be answered and maybe not.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
But yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because we
talk about it a lot, to talk about a lot
on the show.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Listeners email in they're mad about it. Yeah, it just.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Seems like it's always the same thing where they do
something terrible, whether it be on purpose or on accident.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You never can't figure it out anymore. They do something terrible.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
And then you guys try to do your jobs, bring
them in for oversight, and it's always stonewall.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
And either it's Christopher.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Ray saying well, I can't comment on an ongoing investigation
or something. Sure you'll hear that twenty times on Monday,
and then from there nothing happens. Can we do anything
beyond that? Or is that kind of what we're stuck
with without the Senate and the White House.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
There's two things commerce can do. One is we can
investigate these things. You know a lot of times we
talk to people back home. They want us to put
people in cups. I wish we could, but uh, but
we can investigate things. But then the other thing we
have is the power of the purse. And so we
have to have enough Republicans up there who are willing
to say, I'm not going to fund this until the
behavior is corrected.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
And and so you know, just last week we had
a vote on the floor.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I believe it was Persisa.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Who's you know, I've had some questionable activity in the past,
And all the vote was was to hold hold their
funding at flatline to the year prior. So we're not
talking about even a massive cut. We're talking about you're
just not going to make more this year in your
department so that this previous year until we figure things out.
We didn't have the votes for that. So those are
the two options really that are on the table for us.
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Of course, we do need to get to the bottom
of this, and until we're willing to cut funding agencies
know that it's just talked from Congress, and so we've
we've got to investigate they they think they're unaccountable and
well and they have been.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, and why can we never cobble together the votes
So are we that weak and pathetic on the right
that we can't get the GOP in line. I'm not
worried about you, but for some reason, it's always ten
twenty thirty losers in our party who won't do obvious things.
Are they Are they democrats in disguise? Is that what
we're dealing with here? Are they soft? Are they stupid?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
What is happening?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:32):
You know, these always come down to individual issues with
each individual who ends up on one side of the vote.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
The thing that I will say is I I you
know there's.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
People who will sometimes hail back to like the Reagan
and Tip O'Neal years, and you know that may have
been a great season. I'm not saying we wouldn't love
to be there and to have those kind of substantive
dialogues across the aisle.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
That's not where the parties are right now.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
This isn't a generation to go where the difference between
the right and left was we wanted the same thing
for our families and our communities. We all believed in America,
and the discussion, the political discussion was what's the role
of government in getting there? Right now, that discussion is
happening entirely within the Republican Party, and I think that's
what last night was about, when we're talking about Okay,
we have differences of opinion on some of the nuanced issues,
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but we're all standing for the same principles. That discussion
is happening right now entirely within the Republican Party, at
least certainly at the DC swamp level. U and the
left has completely embraced Marxism, and we have to have
enough members who understand what the time is right now. Uh,
And I the consensus that is growing. I would hope
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out of after the extraordinary events President Trump, like his
life literally being spared by the hand of God, that
we can understand the kind of evil that we're up
against in that we're facing as a country right now,
and the need for us at all levels we're talking
at the local level to d C, everything in between,
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to have people of couragere are going to stand for
these principles.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I'm sure you've heard at this point in time it's
breaking news, kind of breaking news, but Mark Halpern's very
reputable journalists saying it.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Sounds like Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
As we speak, somebody's writing his farewell speech and it's
going to be this freaking disaster that they're going to
have to do with the nomination.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
At the convention. So on's okay.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So I don't want to ask you to comment on
something that hasn't happened yet. But if Joe Biden's not
the nominee, then where in the world do they go.
You can't go with Kamala Harris, she's less popular than
Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Who is it? Mayor Pete?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Well, yeah, I mean I'm not a dim operative, so
you know, I'm sure there are people wringing their hands
over that decision right now. The thing that people need
to realize is, I mean, Joe Biden has not been
running the policy.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Set as it is right now. No, not so much.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
So you may get a new figurehead and maybe one
who's a little more capable of speaking, doesn't trip upstairs,
you know, those kind of thing, but you're gonna have
the same policy set. And this policy set has been
devastating for the American people. It's retracted our place on
the world stage. It's done a lot of bad things
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for humanity here at home and in us being that
city on a hill across the world. You know, the
open borders the economy. The gap between rich and poor
right now is growing once again. When under Trump and
hit Trunk, we had a strong middle class. You know,
virtually every single demographic of flourishing. And so you're gonna
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get the same solution set. Might be a different face,
but it's going to be the same solution set that
they're offering.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
You represent Southern Texas, so we're talking Victoria, Corpus CHRISTI
these places. How awful is it to get on a
plane and have to leave Texas and the Mexican food
we have and stuff and go back to d C.
Even the food in DC sucks. I tell people this,
and they think I'm mine. All that money and power
concentrated in one place. It's hard to find a decent
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meal on that crappy tak.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Yeah, there's many attempts to have good Mexican food in DC,
and they they don't fail. They're just you know, not
not South Texas for sure. Uh And and you know
it's it's part of the job to go in the swamp.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I try to make sure I take a good shower
when I come home.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
My proverbial waiting boots on when I when I head there, uh.
And and the big thing is just remembering why you're
going there, so that you don't get sucked into the
ideology the uh you know, just DC has its own
absurd sense of gravity. You know, you're you're talking from
the intern to the vice president. Someone's demise, someone else's
step matter success, you know, and uh and so we've
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always tried to do our best. Remember while we're there,
Remember we're there to serve, uh and to you know,
on our team, I feel blessed to have a staff
and a team that works with that same sort of
mission mindset.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Is that what you've been able to maintain because so
many don't? I mean, it's so many though it sound
great on the campaign troll and even maybe in the
first first term they're doing well, looks great, and then
just it's like they're mind falls out when they get there.
Is that the difference people around you? Or is that
why you've been able to hold strong because so many
don't and it's very very frustrating.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Well, I you know, I always I can only speak
for you know, I mean, for me, it's a daily walk,
you know, my face important to me.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I'm trying to live and do right.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
I know, Ultimately, I'm gonna stand before God one day
for and ultimately that's gonna matter. I mean, yes, each
election cycle matters because you're representing and working for the
people sending you there. But ultimately, you know, every conversation
you have, you know, all the decisions you're making, making
sure you're doing it with the right motives in mine
and that you're there working for the American people. It
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sounds so basic and elementary to me, but yeah, you know,
there's there's just specific mindsets that you can adopt that
try to You know, I had somebody when I was running,
thinking they're doing good, come to me and just say,
you know, I've been there, it's been just remember the ends,
justify the means, you know, and you might have to
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do some stuff you don't like, what's up birch At
walking by famous people everywhere, but you know, I just
remember thinking, don't let her let yourself fall into that
kind of thinking, because you know it's a slippery slope.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Now, healthy dose of Jesus to do us all pretty good,
confess and I appreciate you very much, sir, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Do you hear that? Chris? Anyway, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
We're going to take a quick break here. When we
come back, Natalie Winners with the war Room. She co
hosts that with Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon's not with us,
why because he's in prison. The federal government threw the
guy in prison. We're going to talk to her about
that and weaponization of government and other things.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Hang on, I've got on that, Emily. I don't mean
Jesse Kelly.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the
Jesse Kelly Show on a Thursday. We have a very
sure guests with us today. I say special because of
the very odd purse she brought onto the show. Natalie Winter's,
of course host on the war Room.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I love the Warroom. We love the war Room.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
More specifically Natalie Winters the solo host I believe now
of the war Room.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Now, why are you going solo? Natalie? Didn't you have
somebody who was doing that with you?
Speaker 6 (29:21):
Yeah, not exactly a promotion.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Unfortunately, my co host and wonderful boss and fearless leader,
Stephen K. Bannon is inside of a federal prison right
now because he stood up for present from similar case.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Little bit of a distinction in terms.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Of Peter Navarro's case, but he is up in Danbury,
Connecticut serving a four month sentence, So I am filling
in for him in the meantime, along with a slew
of other people who are kind of guest hosting to
keep it fun. But we are not letting up. We
are keeping his spirit alive and we email with him constantly,
so he's definitely helping us, even from behind bars.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, make sure you give him our best. And I
really wanted you to talk about that briefly. We'll get
to fashion week here in a moment, but I really
wanted to talk about that because it's we talk about
the weaponization of federal government all the time. It's a
common phrase now, weaponization, weaponization, but it's almost talked about
as if this is something that's going to happen or
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something that's going to come. There are people right now
in prison. It's not sadly, just it's not just Steve Vannon.
There are people right now in prison. Wrongly, this is
happening here, and it's happening right now.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Well, this is the same federal government that for what
is it, nearly a decade, if not longer, has they
think worked over time to redefine what it means to
be a domestic extremist and a domestic terrorist, so much
so that someone like the shooter that tried to assassinate
President Trump on Saturday wouldn't even really fit their definition
of what it means to be a domestic terrorist or
a domestic extremist, because they have reworded that to mean
(30:51):
MAGA to be synonymous with Trump supporter, to be synonymous
with people who watch your show, people who watch warwom
people who want to deconstruct the administrative state. And I
think so often they like to write off that movement
as crazy people, deranged people who don't know what they're
doing right, it's kind of gonzo, they're going rogue.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
But this has calculated. This is a systemic effort.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
We understand the monster, the behemoth that we are up against,
that it is the administrative state. And frankly, that's why
they're in such meltdown over Project twenty twenty five because
I think it represents how our side has actually circled
the wagons and gotten the troops together to realize the
threat that we're up against. But if you watch the
mainstream media, the number one issue that they lose it
on with President Trump It used to be immigration, but
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now it is going after the administrative state. Right it
is going after draining the swamp. That's too nice to turn,
but it's going after these civil servants. The schedule apt protections,
and I think that right there is the tell that
they know that if you go for those people, they
know personnelis policy, that if you take those people out
from those positions, that the administrative state will crumble.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Seizing those choke points of power.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
It's what those thirty commies do so well, and they've
been doing it for a long time. But we're going
to We're going to set that aside for now.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I have to ask.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I realized this is a radio show. Some of you
may be watching on the time of cast. I realize
a lot of you are.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
But you're walking around with a box.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
It's it's it's shaped like a box, and you say
it's tweet and I guess I'll have to respect your
wishes on this, but this is this is fashion.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Okay, So do you want the real story behind the ball?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I would love to know why you have a box?
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Okay, it's a great quote.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
So I was visiting a friend slash.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
Guy last year.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
It's okay, it's it's not a scandal. My boyfriend does
he know that?
Speaker 6 (32:39):
I think so?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
And yeah, sure I don't. I don't think I like him.
So I left early and I went to No No.
I went to Chicago and I stood night there instead,
and then I went shopping the next day, and am
I allowed to say the story that I went to
a store I don't know? Then I was like, you
know what, I'm just going to treat myself and said,
so just now, and I got a new bag, and
(33:02):
you're mocking this vanity bag. That's what it's called a
vanity case. But this is very rare and fun fact.
We're gonna bring this full circle to the Chinese Communist Party.
So I'm in there. I go and I'm like, I
really want this bag, but I was like, maybe I
shouldn't buy it.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
So I leave. Then I do a lap around the block.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I come back and I'm about to buy the bag,
and then this couple to be Chinese comes over and
they're like, we want to buy the bag. It was
the last one they had, So had I not come back.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
At the hold on, did you Spike buy a Chanel
bag to try to shift some poor Chinese people.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Is that really what you did? That's amazing. I'm so
committed that is okay?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Besides me, who's the most stylish person you've seen the
Republican Convention.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I really love sunglasses and everything.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
I know.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
I usual this beautiful lady's walking past.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Now.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
I usually like, am in the full get up. I'm
like a dress and heels kind of girl. But in
protest of just the r and see for what it
historically is represented, I was like, I'm going sneakers. So
usually would nominate myself, but I can't do that this time.
I'm just gonna go with you. I don't want to
insult the host. But there are a lot of ill
fitting suits. I think the Republican parties to get better tailors.
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And I don't like the cheese hats. I know it's
like insulting culture.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
But I have to ask, now, you're not wearing them,
by the grace of God.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
But the ballet.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
Flats, I don't like those.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
This thing.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I don't know when this became acceptable for women in
the United States of America.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
They'll wear them.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
It's called ballet core.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Ballet core, ballet core.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Yeah no, no, it's so there's like a trend where
ballet core like coquette core, like.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Pink core, pilates core.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
It's like, honestly it comes from TikTok not then I
frequent that up.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
But it's it's an aesthetic. I will say.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
The upside of it is that I think it has
sort of a returned in some ways to traditional femininity.
Wouldn't you rather see women wearing ballet flats than like
hardcore like gaw the trans combat boots.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
No, actually, I think I would rather see combat boots.
I think I would rather see women wearing Do you.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Like my shoes?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Uh? They're okay. I mean they're not right home about
all right, They're they're fine. They're certainly better than ballet.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
Their new balance.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
They're made in the USA, I understand that.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
On a more serious note, when it comes to fashion,
why is that industry so gross? I say this because
my wife complains about it all the time. If I
ever get dragged along when she's out shopping.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
She's just she's so discussed.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
You can't she can't walk in the makeup area without
of course, there's got to be a tranny up there.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Of course, it's got to be what is.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
Specific, It's an obese tranny, it's missing a limb pictured
with like another rate like it's the whole thing, right,
It's like ridiculous, But you know, I think it's a
symptom of right broader cultural rot.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
But I think if you really.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Take a step back, you can go down how we've
been indoctrinated for years.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
But I also think it's just an example of I think.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Corporations, honestly kind of get off on just pushing this
really subversive stuff. I think they try to see how
much they can push on the American people because I
think for so long we've kind of just really sat
back and we took it right.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
That's how we got to this this spot.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
We've lived and lived our way into this whole thing exactly.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
So it's it's wild.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
I mean, having grown up in La the billboards used
to be beautiful models, and now you drive down Sunset
Strip and it's like, like I said, the Star Wars.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Bar, look at how far we've fallen. Natalie Winters obviously.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Give her the very serious interviews of.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Course, Natalie Winters of the War Room go. Honestly, she's
a wealth of information. Ever on my TV show all
the time, she's wonderful, Natalie. I appreciate you and your
tennis shoes. I guess bos Now we have Megan Kelly joining.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Us five minutes from now. I don't know how to
tell time.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
She's the next time you hear my voice, it's going
to be sitting next to Megan Kelly. I don't know
whether she's going to bring a box pers along as well.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
If she does, we.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Will address that with her on the air. I first
need to address the fact that our dogs don't get
real nutrition.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Though.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Our dogs do not get nutrition because we give our
dogs dog food. Food is brown. Dead things are brown.
Why do the leaves fall in the fall because they
turn brown because they die and then they fall off.
We don't give our dogs any real nutrition. They die
too early. Give your dog roughgreens. Pour roughgreens on your
(37:18):
dog's food. Your dog will thank you by living longer
and providing a better life.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
For you and your family.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
You'll see physical differences in your dog roughgreens dot com
slash Jesse or eight three three three three my dog,
go get some.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Megan Kelly next
This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Let's have some fun on a Thursday. And woo boy,
are things happening right about now all over the place. Yes,
of course it's an ask doctor Jesse Thursday. I will
all kinds of questions out there about early voting.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
What if the.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Assassin had been successful? We have good congressman, no crappy congressman.
Other guests, Megan Kelly's an hour from now. Tons of
things to talk about, but I don't have time to
get into any of that right now because there are
things that are I don't know if I want to
say breaking, kind of breaking, not concrete, but kind of concrete.
So here it is, let me, let me just let
me just give it to you without leading up.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Or taking any more time.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Mark Halperin, he's a journalist, a reputable journalist. I want
to say that this human being may not align with
you or align with me on many things, but this
isn't some hack who doesn't know we're talking ABC News, NBC.
This is a man who's done a lot, and he's
(01:20):
been around the block, and when he breaks news, he
has sources. He has been quite reliable in the past,
and this came down. I kid you not two minutes
before we came on the area. I was going somewhere
totally different with this, but here it is. I'm going
to read it verbatim. It's his news, not my news.
But this is well. Here it is breaking news. Multiple
(01:45):
sources outline the apparent state of play on Biden at
this time.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Quote these are the points.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
The first point plans to announce withdrawal from nomination as
early as this weekend, with Sunday most likely. John Meacham
is polishing up remarks. Don't worry about who that is.
This is writing a speech. Biden will not resign the presidency.
Biden will not endorse Harris, open convention with Harris and
(02:20):
about three others. Super delegates will not be allowed to
vote on the first ballot. Don't worry about that inside
baseball stuff. Harris is vetting at least four possible running mates,
including Andy Basher impossibly Shapiro. Basher is Kentucky, Shapiro is Pennsylvania.
(02:40):
More on this fluid situation tonight, and I give you
my word I will keep you posted on that as
it comes out. Now again, I want to stress I
am not bringing you this information. This is not my
breaking news. I want to give credit where credits due.
This is Mark's breaking news. That's one.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Two.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Mark is somebody who generally gets it right. Three when
it's multiple sources. Whenever you read that, when there are
multiple sources involved, just know that is a journalist putting
his stamp on it. He's practically etching it in stone.
(03:22):
This is very likely true. And so look, this is
nothing that is that unexpected. It's something obviously we've talked about.
You and I have talked about for the longest time.
How long how long I've been predicting this has been.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
It's been over two years.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I've been telling you this is coming. But even now
now that it looks like we might be on the
cusp of it, even now, it almost doesn't seem real,
right It almost it seems surreal probably the best way
I can put it, probably a better use of English.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It seems surreal. It's how it seems right now.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And I have a lot of things going through my head,
as I'm sure you do. I'm thrilled that that ball
is going to leave. I am very curious where the
ticket's going to end up.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Are the poll numbers going to look as good for
us after this happens, assuming it does, after this happens,
are the pool numbers going to look as good for
us after as they do? Now? We just had new
pole I'm not going to go over all the pool numbers.
That's so freaking boring. But we just had new poles
come out today, the first really post assassination attempt polls,
and it got worse for Biden all across the board.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
It's a blood bath.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But I will just I'll just tell you this, I personally,
I'm really in some ways I'm gonna miss him.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It's all about treating people with dignity, and it's about
making sure that coming. For example, look at the heat
on getting it because I named a sturing defense good
black man. I named Katanji Brown. I mean because of
the people I've named.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
The black man.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Where are we gonna go for this kind of political entertainment?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
This is there. I said it last night. I'm gonna
miss him in some ways.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
There's nothing funnier in politics than Joe Biden pandering to
black people.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It's as good as it gets.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I would ordinarily be going through black neighborhoods. I'm crowning
the foot working through neighborhoods. I have a tradition every
I close every campaign, no matter what campaign, going into
the projects and going down the East Side. And hey,
jo I know you know just because of refuge letting
nose told me.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
It sounds great. He sounds great. And the black house
he used to go.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
To camp I was in South kinda went to a
going to a black home or a dan Son.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
They talk about it.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
If he's actually leaving, I'm gonna miss him, I'm gonna
miss him a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
All So, look what happened. Well, you and I have
talked about this.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Joe Biden was determined a liability to the system.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
How big of a liability?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Well, last night went out with a big group of us,
went out as me, Clay Buck and some other people
senators and whatnot, and we were just kind of had.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
A couple of beers and we were just cheese kurds and.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Just discussing politics and kind of one of those one
of those inside baseball political conversations that you feel kind
of blessed to be part of. I'm looking around at
one point in time and I'm thinking this life is wild, right,
I'm an idiot.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I have no idea why I'm here.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Anyway, We're having one of these conversations and one of
the people who was there, who will know. I don't
have his permission to use his name or anything. I'm
just going to stress this to you. He's someone who
would know, he says. Democrats on Capitol Hill are in
an absolute panic right now. Not about November. Not about
(06:59):
November for Joe Biden. I mean not about the White House.
Don't get me wrong. They're very worried about it. They
want to keep the White House, but a lot of
them are almost resigned to the fact it looks bad.
Look Trump survived an assassination attempt and handled it like
a boss. It's going to be very, very difficult to
defeat that guy in Novembers.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It's not about the White House.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Where the panic has set in in Washington, d C.
Among Democrats is the House and the Senate, because there
is a grand canyon's worth of difference between having the
White House and one of the two houses, you know,
(07:42):
one of the two branches of Congress, and having.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
The White House, the House House, and.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
The United States Senate, especially if you have the United
States Senate with any degree of strength, meaning it's not
fifty one to forty nine if Republicans, If Republicans and
November and they have fifty four seats. That was a
number that was thrown around last night. Fifty four seats,
(08:12):
fifty five seats in the House. Democrats have no power whatsoever.
And you know communists use their power unlike Republicans. Communists
will use their power. What kind of power am I
talking about? What if Donald Trump assumes the White House?
What if he really intends to drain the swamp, and
(08:36):
what if he begins to appoint as his various department
heads hardcore anti communists who intend to clean out the
filth from the federal government, And what if the Democrat
senators don't have the power to stop it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
That is why.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You're seeing all these headlines from today. Top Democrats believe
Biden will bow out. Oh Obama believes Biden needs to
reconsider candidacy. Nancy Pelosi urges Biden to drop out of
the presidential race. Chuck Schumer forcefully made the case Biden
should drop out. Biden now receptive that this is why
you're reading all these headlines the panic has set in,
(09:22):
not about the White House, about every other house, and
that if this turns out to be true, that is
why it will end up being true in the end.
All right, all right, we're gonna get to some ask
doctor Jesse questions because there's so many freaking guests. If
I don't get to him next, I'm never gonna get
to them. So let's dig into some interesting things. Before
we get into these, Let's make sure we're, you know,
(09:45):
not being weak and pathetic, because once we achieve victory,
that's when the hard part starts.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Once we achieve victory.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
If we achieve that victory, it will take fortitude to
do the things necessary to save this country. Winning elections
is just part of it. And if we don't have
the t levels, we're never gonna be able to do it.
If your testosterone levels are low, fellas, you're done.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Ladies. If you if.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
It's two or three in the afternoon and you need
another two or three pots of coffee to keep going
because you're out of.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Energy, you're not gonna make it. You're not gonna make it.
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(10:39):
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Speaker 1 (10:41):
Your energy feels.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
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We'll be back.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
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at Jesse Kelly's show. It is the Jesse Kelly Show
on a Thursday. Of course, Look there's a lot there's
a lot of people here. It's freaking conventions. There's gonna
be a lot of guests. Apparently there's nothing to do
about that. But we do have some really cool ones.
Megan Kelly's joining us, like forty five minutes from now,
(11:24):
Natalie Winners a half hour from now. One of the
decent Congressman Cloud. Michael Cloud joins us, Charlie, there's a
lot going on, but of course it's asked doctor Jesse Thursday. Again,
I'm not going to recap the whole thing for you
as it as it looks right now. This is not
my reporting. It's Mark Halperin's reporting, so I want to
make sure he gets credit. This is a very credible
human being. Sounds like they're putting the finishing touches on
(11:47):
the Joe Biden is dropping out speech that he is
expected to deliver in some way this weekend. So here
we are. That's enough of that for now. Oh there's
all kinds of stuff we can recap and talk about
next week. We have a whole bunch of ask doctor
Jesse questions, and there are some amazing ones like this one, Jesse,
(12:09):
what would have happened to our country if the.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Shooter was successful? Civil war?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I've thought about this a lot. I'm guessing you've thought
about this too. It's one of the things that honestly,
when I was laying in bed last night, we got
back after we were all out having fun and talking
politics and things like that, and got back to my room,
and I was a little wired, flipped through the channels.
I don't like TV, turn it off, and I'm just
kind of sitting there thinking, and it hit me again.
(12:38):
I know this probably is weird, but it hit me
again how close we were, We're talking two inches, how
close we were to Donald Trump being gone that. What
does the Republican Convention look like without Donald Trump? Remember
(13:02):
he hadn't picked a VP by then either, so the
nominee would have been well, I'm gonna get to the personal,
the civil war part of it, but just for the
nomination process alone, how sad and angry would everyone be here?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
They'd be just tearing all.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Of our guts out, and then you have to look,
you still need a nominee. It's horrible and cold and
off as that sounds, the convention would have gone on
and the show must go on, meaning we have to
pick a nominee.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Now, where do you even begin? What do you do?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Do you backtrack your way to the prime? You can't
do that? Do you give it to Don Junior? Honestly,
I thought I had that thought last night. Again, this
is just me talking just off the cuff here. Do
you just let Don Junior have it? Probably would have
made the most sense, keep the Trump coalition to I.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Don't know, but we were two inches from.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
This being not a what if a reality two inches.
And that brings me to the question, what would have
happened civil war? No, I don't believe that, and what
I'm going to say is probably gonna sound harsh, but
you know I can do that from time to time,
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and it's just kind of who I am.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Nothing I can do about it.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
This country, the freedom loving people of this country don't
have it in them to do something like that at
all yet because it hasn't gotten near bad enough yet.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You know, it's not that people aren't waking up. They
are waking up.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
It's not that people aren't getting more involved. They are
getting more involved. You see this over and over and
over again. People are getting more involved, They're digging in.
So it is getting better. But level of apathy from
the quote freedom loving Americans, I have not seen anything
over the last five years, ten years that would indicate
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to me that the freedom loving people of this country
would have risen up and done something. And let me clarify,
there would have been nothing to do that would have
been a good thing. Now let me pause, is that
probably makes you mad, because we would have been freaking out.
We would have been mad, we wanted to do something.
What would you have done? What are you going to
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mobilize an army and do what if the shooters lay
in there, brain's been blown out, he's gone.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Where are you going? What are you doing it?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
It would not have been a civil war, And I'm
grateful for that, because that's the last thing in the
world anybody should ever want. Nobody really wins a civil war,
they really don't. We like to look back fondly on ours,
look at us. So we ended slavery, and of course
that's good, you want to end slavery.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
But that was a horrible, horrible thing. Civil wars are
horrible things.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Countrymen murdering each other in mass that's nothing you should ever,
ever ever want, no matter how mad you get at
the dirty comedies, that should be nothing you ever look
forward to it all. And I don't think it would
have happened there then if if he'd gone, But I
do think I do think there would have been a
collective level of sadness, anger, resentment out there that would
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have been palpable. And I think, you know how we
always talk about what's one of our main goals. One
of our main goals has to be waking up norm
and norma.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You're waking up the norms.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
The guy who you know, of course, he votes Trump
every four years, but he can't be bothered to vote
in a local election. He doesn't get involved in politics,
to watching college foot.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Doesn't give a crap.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
We want him to wake up and get involved, right,
something like that. That's the kind of thing that would
do it. That's the kind of thing that would do it.
And I'm not, obviously in any way saying it would
have been a good thing, but I could see I
could see it taking something like that. It's going to
take something like that to wake up a bunch of norms.
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You me, we can wake up a few, and that
has to.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Be our goal at all times.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Wake them up, wake them up, wakem up these normal
people in our lives, talking to them, getting involved, friends, neighbors, relatives,
getting more involved than they have been. That has to
be our mission. But look what's our dream. Wake them
up in masks, right, they all wake up and they
all get involved. That's that's, of course what we want.
It's going to take something cataclysmic to wake up a
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people this apathetic, and that's just the truth. It's gonna
take a foreign attack. It's gonna say, take something awful,
something we don't want, because that kind of puts us
in a bit of a pickle. Anyway, I think we
have Congressman Michael Cloud coming on. If not, that's gonna
be just fine.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
I love it. He's great. I love him.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
But we have so many asked doctor Jesse questions and
great ones. We just have a ton of stuff to
do on a Thursday. I also need to make sure
we're doing this. I just was talking about an attack.
Remember something. No matter what happens this November, the country
has been filled filled with criminals on purpose, and those
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criminals include hostile foreign actors. How many of them as
we speak are scouting out power stations, water supplies. I'm
not trying to freak you out. I'm just trying to
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Speaker 1 (19:27):
True, it's the Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Thursday throat.
I just can't believe that a Republican National Convention. You're
just sitting here. I'm sitting next to Congressman Michael Cloud.
Monica Crowley goes rolling.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
By this place.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
This is a star studed affair, of course, mostly because
I'm here. But anyway, so Congressman and I we were
just talking off air about this whole secret Service thing.
Congressman Michael Cloud, I'm sure you already know one hundred
percent record with the Heritage Foundation. So this this kind
of human being we're dealing with here. Of course, Texas
always does it right.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Actually that's not true.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
We have some dirt balls from Texas, but there's most
of the Texas congressmen are decent, but more importantly, he's
on the Oversight committee.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And you have a little meeting on Monday, don't you.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Yeah, Monday, we'll have a hearing with the US Secret Service.
Then I'm sure it'll be just as transparent and revealing
and all the questions will be answered and maybe not.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
But yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because we
talk about it a lot, to talk about a lot
on the show.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Listeners email in they're mad about it. Yeah, it just.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Seems like it's always the same thing where they do
something terrible, whether it be on purpose or on accident.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You never can't figure it out anymore. They do something terrible.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
And then you guys try to do your jobs, bring
them in for oversight, and it's always stonewall.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
And either it's Christopher.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Ray saying well, I can't comment on an ongoing investigation
or something. Sure you'll hear that twenty times on Monday,
and then from there nothing happens. Can we do anything
beyond that? Or is that kind of what we're stuck
with without the Senate and the White House.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
There's two things commerce can do. One is we can
investigate these things. You know a lot of times we
talk to people back home. They want us to put
people in cups. I wish we could, but uh, but
we can investigate things. But then the other thing we
have is the power of the purse. And so we
have to have enough Republicans up there who are willing
to say, I'm not going to fund this until the
behavior is corrected.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
And and so you know, just last week we had
a vote on the floor.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I believe it was Persisa.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Who's you know, I've had some questionable activity in the past,
And all the vote was was to hold hold their
funding at flatline to the year prior. So we're not
talking about even a massive cut. We're talking about you're
just not going to make more this year in your
department so that this previous year until we figure things out.
We didn't have the votes for that. So those are
the two options really that are on the table for us.
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Of course, we do need to get to the bottom
of this, and until we're willing to cut funding agencies
know that it's just talked from Congress, and so we've
we've got to investigate they they think they're unaccountable and
well and they have been.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, and why can we never cobble together the votes
So are we that weak and pathetic on the right
that we can't get the GOP in line. I'm not
worried about you, but for some reason, it's always ten
twenty thirty losers in our party who won't do obvious things.
Are they Are they democrats in disguise? Is that what
we're dealing with here? Are they soft? Are they stupid?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
What is happening?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:32):
You know, these always come down to individual issues with
each individual who ends up on one side of the vote.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
The thing that I will say is I I you
know there's.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
People who will sometimes hail back to like the Reagan
and Tip O'Neal years, and you know that may have
been a great season. I'm not saying we wouldn't love
to be there and to have those kind of substantive
dialogues across the aisle.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
That's not where the parties are right now.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
This isn't a generation to go where the difference between
the right and left was we wanted the same thing
for our families and our communities. We all believed in America,
and the discussion, the political discussion was what's the role
of government in getting there? Right now, that discussion is
happening entirely within the Republican Party, and I think that's
what last night was about, when we're talking about Okay,
we have differences of opinion on some of the nuanced issues,
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but we're all standing for the same principles. That discussion
is happening right now entirely within the Republican Party, at
least certainly at the DC swamp level. U and the
left has completely embraced Marxism, and we have to have
enough members who understand what the time is right now. Uh,
And I the consensus that is growing. I would hope
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out of after the extraordinary events President Trump, like his
life literally being spared by the hand of God, that
we can understand the kind of evil that we're up
against in that we're facing as a country right now,
and the need for us at all levels we're talking
at the local level to d C, everything in between,
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to have people of couragere are going to stand for
these principles.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I'm sure you've heard at this point in time it's
breaking news, kind of breaking news, but Mark Halpern's very
reputable journalists saying it.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Sounds like Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
As we speak, somebody's writing his farewell speech and it's
going to be this freaking disaster that they're going to
have to do with the nomination.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
At the convention. So on's okay.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So I don't want to ask you to comment on
something that hasn't happened yet. But if Joe Biden's not
the nominee, then where in the world do they go.
You can't go with Kamala Harris, she's less popular than
Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Who is it? Mayor Pete?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Well, yeah, I mean I'm not a dim operative, so
you know, I'm sure there are people wringing their hands
over that decision right now. The thing that people need
to realize is, I mean, Joe Biden has not been
running the policy.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Set as it is right now. No, not so much.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
So you may get a new figurehead and maybe one
who's a little more capable of speaking, doesn't trip upstairs,
you know, those kind of thing, but you're gonna have
the same policy set. And this policy set has been
devastating for the American people. It's retracted our place on
the world stage. It's done a lot of bad things
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for humanity here at home and in us being that
city on a hill across the world. You know, the
open borders the economy. The gap between rich and poor
right now is growing once again. When under Trump and
hit Trunk, we had a strong middle class. You know,
virtually every single demographic of flourishing. And so you're gonna
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get the same solution set. Might be a different face,
but it's going to be the same solution set that
they're offering.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
You represent Southern Texas, so we're talking Victoria, Corpus CHRISTI
these places. How awful is it to get on a
plane and have to leave Texas and the Mexican food
we have and stuff and go back to d C.
Even the food in DC sucks. I tell people this,
and they think I'm mine. All that money and power
concentrated in one place. It's hard to find a decent
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meal on that crappy tak.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Yeah, there's many attempts to have good Mexican food in DC,
and they they don't fail. They're just you know, not
not South Texas for sure. Uh And and you know
it's it's part of the job to go in the swamp.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I try to make sure I take a good shower
when I come home.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
My proverbial waiting boots on when I when I head there, uh.
And and the big thing is just remembering why you're
going there, so that you don't get sucked into the
ideology the uh you know, just DC has its own
absurd sense of gravity. You know, you're you're talking from
the intern to the vice president. Someone's demise, someone else's
step matter success, you know, and uh and so we've
(26:37):
always tried to do our best. Remember while we're there,
Remember we're there to serve, uh and to you know,
on our team, I feel blessed to have a staff
and a team that works with that same sort of
mission mindset.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Is that what you've been able to maintain because so
many don't? I mean, it's so many though it sound
great on the campaign troll and even maybe in the
first first term they're doing well, looks great, and then
just it's like they're mind falls out when they get there.
Is that the difference people around you? Or is that
why you've been able to hold strong because so many
don't and it's very very frustrating.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Well, I you know, I always I can only speak
for you know, I mean, for me, it's a daily walk,
you know, my face important to me.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I'm trying to live and do right.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
I know, Ultimately, I'm gonna stand before God one day
for and ultimately that's gonna matter. I mean, yes, each
election cycle matters because you're representing and working for the
people sending you there. But ultimately, you know, every conversation
you have, you know, all the decisions you're making, making
sure you're doing it with the right motives in mine
and that you're there working for the American people. It
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sounds so basic and elementary to me, but yeah, you know,
there's there's just specific mindsets that you can adopt that
try to You know, I had somebody when I was running,
thinking they're doing good, come to me and just say,
you know, I've been there, it's been just remember the ends,
justify the means, you know, and you might have to
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do some stuff you don't like, what's up birch At
walking by famous people everywhere, but you know, I just
remember thinking, don't let her let yourself fall into that
kind of thinking, because you know it's a slippery slope.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Now, healthy dose of Jesus to do us all pretty good,
confess and I appreciate you very much, sir, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Do you hear that? Chris? Anyway, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
We're going to take a quick break here. When we
come back, Natalie Winners with the war Room. She co
hosts that with Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon's not with us,
why because he's in prison. The federal government threw the
guy in prison. We're going to talk to her about
that and weaponization of government and other things.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Hang on, I've got on that, Emily. I don't mean
Jesse Kelly.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the
Jesse Kelly Show on a Thursday. We have a very
sure guests with us today. I say special because of
the very odd purse she brought onto the show. Natalie Winter's,
of course host on the war Room.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I love the Warroom. We love the war Room.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
More specifically Natalie Winters the solo host I believe now
of the war Room.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Now, why are you going solo? Natalie? Didn't you have
somebody who was doing that with you?
Speaker 6 (29:21):
Yeah, not exactly a promotion.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Unfortunately, my co host and wonderful boss and fearless leader,
Stephen K. Bannon is inside of a federal prison right
now because he stood up for present from similar case.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Little bit of a distinction in terms.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Of Peter Navarro's case, but he is up in Danbury,
Connecticut serving a four month sentence, So I am filling
in for him in the meantime, along with a slew
of other people who are kind of guest hosting to
keep it fun. But we are not letting up. We
are keeping his spirit alive and we email with him constantly,
so he's definitely helping us, even from behind bars.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, make sure you give him our best. And I
really wanted you to talk about that briefly. We'll get
to fashion week here in a moment, but I really
wanted to talk about that because it's we talk about
the weaponization of federal government all the time. It's a
common phrase now, weaponization, weaponization, but it's almost talked about
as if this is something that's going to happen or
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something that's going to come. There are people right now
in prison. It's not sadly, just it's not just Steve Vannon.
There are people right now in prison. Wrongly, this is
happening here, and it's happening right now.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Well, this is the same federal government that for what
is it, nearly a decade, if not longer, has they
think worked over time to redefine what it means to
be a domestic extremist and a domestic terrorist, so much
so that someone like the shooter that tried to assassinate
President Trump on Saturday wouldn't even really fit their definition
of what it means to be a domestic terrorist or
a domestic extremist, because they have reworded that to mean
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MAGA to be synonymous with Trump supporter, to be synonymous
with people who watch your show, people who watch warwom
people who want to deconstruct the administrative state. And I
think so often they like to write off that movement
as crazy people, deranged people who don't know what they're
doing right, it's kind of gonzo, they're going rogue.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
But this has calculated. This is a systemic effort.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
We understand the monster, the behemoth that we are up against,
that it is the administrative state. And frankly, that's why
they're in such meltdown over Project twenty twenty five because
I think it represents how our side has actually circled
the wagons and gotten the troops together to realize the
threat that we're up against. But if you watch the
mainstream media, the number one issue that they lose it
on with President Trump It used to be immigration, but
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now it is going after the administrative state. Right it
is going after draining the swamp. That's too nice to turn,
but it's going after these civil servants. The schedule apt protections,
and I think that right there is the tell that
they know that if you go for those people, they
know personnelis policy, that if you take those people out
from those positions, that the administrative state will crumble.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Seizing those choke points of power.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
It's what those thirty commies do so well, and they've
been doing it for a long time. But we're going
to We're going to set that aside for now.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I have to ask.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I realized this is a radio show. Some of you
may be watching on the time of cast. I realize
a lot of you are.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
But you're walking around with a box.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
It's it's it's shaped like a box, and you say
it's tweet and I guess I'll have to respect your
wishes on this, but this is this is fashion.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Okay, So do you want the real story behind the ball?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I would love to know why you have a box?
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Okay, it's a great quote.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
So I was visiting a friend slash.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
Guy last year.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
It's okay, it's it's not a scandal. My boyfriend does
he know that?
Speaker 6 (32:39):
I think so?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
And yeah, sure I don't. I don't think I like him.
So I left early and I went to No No.
I went to Chicago and I stood night there instead,
and then I went shopping the next day, and am
I allowed to say the story that I went to
a store I don't know? Then I was like, you
know what, I'm just going to treat myself and said,
so just now, and I got a new bag, and
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you're mocking this vanity bag. That's what it's called a
vanity case. But this is very rare and fun fact.
We're gonna bring this full circle to the Chinese Communist Party.
So I'm in there. I go and I'm like, I
really want this bag, but I was like, maybe I
shouldn't buy it.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
So I leave. Then I do a lap around the block.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I come back and I'm about to buy the bag,
and then this couple to be Chinese comes over and
they're like, we want to buy the bag. It was
the last one they had, So had I not come back.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
At the hold on, did you Spike buy a Chanel
bag to try to shift some poor Chinese people.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Is that really what you did? That's amazing. I'm so
committed that is okay?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Besides me, who's the most stylish person you've seen the
Republican Convention.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I really love sunglasses and everything.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
I know.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
I usual this beautiful lady's walking past.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Now.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
I usually like, am in the full get up. I'm
like a dress and heels kind of girl. But in
protest of just the r and see for what it
historically is represented, I was like, I'm going sneakers. So
usually would nominate myself, but I can't do that this time.
I'm just gonna go with you. I don't want to
insult the host. But there are a lot of ill
fitting suits. I think the Republican parties to get better tailors.
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And I don't like the cheese hats. I know it's
like insulting culture.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
But I have to ask, now, you're not wearing them,
by the grace of God.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
But the ballet.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
Flats, I don't like those.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
This thing.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I don't know when this became acceptable for women in
the United States of America.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
They'll wear them.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
It's called ballet core.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Ballet core, ballet core.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Yeah no, no, it's so there's like a trend where
ballet core like coquette core, like.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Pink core, pilates core.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
It's like, honestly it comes from TikTok not then I
frequent that up.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
But it's it's an aesthetic. I will say.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
The upside of it is that I think it has
sort of a returned in some ways to traditional femininity.
Wouldn't you rather see women wearing ballet flats than like
hardcore like gaw the trans combat boots.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
No, actually, I think I would rather see combat boots.
I think I would rather see women wearing Do you.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Like my shoes?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Uh? They're okay. I mean they're not right home about
all right, They're they're fine. They're certainly better than ballet.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
Their new balance.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
They're made in the USA, I understand that.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
On a more serious note, when it comes to fashion,
why is that industry so gross? I say this because
my wife complains about it all the time. If I
ever get dragged along when she's out shopping.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
She's just she's so discussed.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
You can't she can't walk in the makeup area without
of course, there's got to be a tranny up there.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Of course, it's got to be what is.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
Specific, It's an obese tranny, it's missing a limb pictured
with like another rate like it's the whole thing, right,
It's like ridiculous, But you know, I think it's a
symptom of right broader cultural rot.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
But I think if you really.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Take a step back, you can go down how we've
been indoctrinated for years.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
But I also think it's just an example of I think.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Corporations, honestly kind of get off on just pushing this
really subversive stuff. I think they try to see how
much they can push on the American people because I
think for so long we've kind of just really sat
back and we took it right.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
That's how we got to this this spot.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
We've lived and lived our way into this whole thing exactly.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
So it's it's wild.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
I mean, having grown up in La the billboards used
to be beautiful models, and now you drive down Sunset
Strip and it's like, like I said, the Star Wars.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Bar, look at how far we've fallen. Natalie Winters obviously.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Give her the very serious interviews of.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Course, Natalie Winters of the War Room go. Honestly, she's
a wealth of information. Ever on my TV show all
the time, she's wonderful, Natalie. I appreciate you and your
tennis shoes. I guess bos Now we have Megan Kelly joining.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Us five minutes from now. I don't know how to
tell time.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
She's the next time you hear my voice, it's going
to be sitting next to Megan Kelly. I don't know
whether she's going to bring a box pers along as well.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
If she does, we.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Will address that with her on the air. I first
need to address the fact that our dogs don't get
real nutrition.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Though.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Our dogs do not get nutrition because we give our
dogs dog food. Food is brown. Dead things are brown.
Why do the leaves fall in the fall because they
turn brown because they die and then they fall off.
We don't give our dogs any real nutrition. They die
too early. Give your dog roughgreens. Pour roughgreens on your
(37:18):
dog's food. Your dog will thank you by living longer
and providing a better life.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
For you and your family.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
You'll see physical differences in your dog roughgreens dot com
slash Jesse or eight three three three three my dog,
go get some.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
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