All Episodes

August 14, 2024 44 mins

The latest inflation report came in, bringing the grand total to over 20% inflation under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Jesse Kelly explains why this is a can't-miss issue in the 2024 election and gets a detailed breakdown from Peter St. Onge. This comes as Arizona has successfully gotten abortion on the ballot. How badly will this hurt Republicans? Morgann McMichael and Kaylee McGhee White are onboard to discuss. Plus, a big announcement.

Follow The Jesse Kelly Show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheJesseKellyShow

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
The big deal. We don't talk about enough. We'll talk
about these inflation numbers, some bad news out of Arizona.
There's a ton to get to tonight on our right.
Sometimes we make a mistake, you and me, a hyper

(00:25):
political people, us people, we people. I don't know how
to say that went to community college whatever.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Me.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
We pay attention to politics. We know what's going on,
we know the players, we know everything. But as I
was thinking about this inflation news from today and the
consumer prices, it occurred to me that there are times
when I miss the real deal, the big deal. Where
you missed the real deal, the big deal in this way.
I want to explain it in this way. So we

(00:53):
talk about the newest headline every day, the newest scandal,
Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Trump and all those things. They matter,
They're important. What we talk about matters. I'm not putting
us down, but we lose sight of the fact that
every American citizen, old, young, left, right, middle, black, white, Christian, Muslim,
that whatever, every single American citizen is currently watching their life.

(01:20):
I don't want to say go away, that's too dramatic,
but their standard of living is going down and many, many, many,
many many Americans are drowning, and we get so lost
and talking about the latest bill and taxes and things
that that gets lost on us. And here's why have
you ever you ever heard this situation? I'll make it

(01:40):
about sports. Here's why this happens to us. You ever
Barry Sanders? You remember who Barry Sanders was. If you're
old enough, you remember, of course who Barry Sanders was.
He was this amazing running back for the Detroit Lions.
And so every now and then it would happen the
Lions would finish a game and they'd lose, and they'd
look at this that sheet. The fans will be yelling

(02:01):
the whole game, get very sad. It's the ball and
they look at the plays and Barry Sanders touched the
ball ten times, and that's someone would go to the
coach and he'd say, hey, coach, it's like the best
player in the world and you only gave them the
ball ten times. And the coach really didn't realize it. Well,
I mean, I had studied so much film and if
you really do this. Whereas the people in the stands,

(02:22):
they weren't involved, they could see because they were on
the outside get very sad. It's the ball. The coach
was such an expert, he didn't know. That's what we
do with politics, because right now people are drowning. This
is not something that's coming in the future. Right now,
low income people are drowning. This is I want you

(02:42):
to think about it this way. American citizens in their
income level think about it like a vertical stick, right,
and so the bottom it's the poorest ones. The top
are the richest ones. The water is currently rising, and
there are so many people who are already underwater and
not making it right now. Maybe that's not you. Maybe

(03:02):
it is you. Maybe you're barely making it. Your head's
just barely sticking above. Poor people, older, retired folks on
fixed income. They're already underwater. But it's coming for all
of us as the water's rise. Two point nine percent inflation, Okay,
that's the nerd number. That's the number year over year.
Set that aside because they lie about everything. Here's the
real number. Gas is up fifty percent, fifty percent. This

(03:26):
is just in the past four years fifty percent. Electricity
thirty two percent. Matt producer Matt just dropped nine hundred
bones on an electric bill think about that. Groceries up
twenty one percent. Oh and this all comes with earnings.
What you're making is down three point nine percent. Okay,

(03:50):
those are numbers and percentages and nerd things. Set that aside.
What that means is people aren't making it and aren't
making it. It means different things to different people, depending
on how hard this is hitting you. For some people,
and I'm not dismissing this at all, for some people,
it means no family vacation this year. I'll tell you,

(04:12):
we didn't grow up with a bunch of money, but
we went on a family vacation almost every year. Sometimes
I was driving down to Myrtle Beach for a couple
of days, but as a family would take a vacation,
time off, time with family. Families are canceling that they
can't do it. Children are adult. Children are moving back
in with their parents. Parents retired. That social Security check

(04:34):
isn't cutting it anymore, the part time job isn't cutting
it anymore. They're moving back in with their kids. This
is not something that's coming. This is happening right now.
This might be happening to you right now. I have
a listener to my show, an older couple, farm couple.
They're selling off everything they have. They've officially maxed out

(04:56):
every credit card, trying to get through until the end
of this. But the end isn't coming, and it won't
be any event anyway. We're not going to wake up
tomorrow morning and wow, inflation's way down. That's not how
inflation works. We've printed and spent too much money. Now

(05:20):
it's going to take a lot of pain, years of
it to get back. And that's if we start doing
the right thing now, and we haven't even begun. Listen
to this woman in Philadelphia, Listen to her suffering.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
How hard has inflation hit you?

Speaker 4 (05:37):
It hit me hard.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
It's hitting me hard.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Who do you blame for it?

Speaker 5 (05:40):
I blame the federal government at this point. If a
working class mom who works as a paralegal cannot buy
a two dollar bill pepper because it's now five, imagine
a mother living in a food stamps Imagine a mother
who's making minimum ways trying to feed children.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
They're killing us without killing us.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
If you understand that they're.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Killing us without telling us, they're killing us.

Speaker 7 (06:09):
They're hurting people in ways.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
That they can't help themselves. It's either feed my child,
or well, how about feed my children? And I don't,
but I.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Have to go work five dollars for a bell pepper.
Maybe you heard that and maybe that resonated with you
because you're going through the exact same thing. Maybe you
heard that and maybe it brought home to what others
are going through because you're blessed enough financially that you're

(06:41):
not going through that yet, but you should understand that stick,
the income stick we talked about, the waters are rising.
Now forty percent of Americans worry about paying the bills.
Forty percent. Credit card debt has hidden all all time
high one point one four trillion dollars with the tea.

(07:06):
That doesn't mean people are buying Lamborghinis, although I'm sure
there's some of that in there. People were maxing up
their credit cards to make ends meet, to try to
get through it. Now, this is the part I'm gonna
pause on all this for a second. I'm gonna discuss something.
There's understanding, there's a problem, and there's understanding why there's

(07:30):
a problem. Buddy of mine is at a party. Daughter
was inside making bacon. It was a pool party. Everyone
was outside. It's hot here in Texas. Everyone was outside.
She was inside making a big old batch of bacon
to go with everything else they were cooking, just on
the frying pan on the stovetop. Right, we've all done it,
and bacon gets done. She takes her little fork or tong,
she picks all the bacon up, puts it on a plate,

(07:52):
brings it outside. Everyone's outside, right, she brain farts it
and leaves a frying pan on. So there's no one
in the house to smell the smoke because things start
getting smoky, and there's no one in the house at
first to see the flames that begin to grow on
the stovetop. Finally someone looks in, Oh my gosh, the
house is on fire. Now here's the thing. Everyone can

(08:14):
run inside, and they did, and notice everyone can see
the smoke, the flames. Everyone knows things are on fire.
The question is how do you solve the problem. There
will be some people in there who believe you solve
it by filling up a jug of water and dumping
it on there, which of course will only make a
grease fire worse. And then there are others who know

(08:35):
to grab the fire extinguishers, some baking soda whatever to
put out a grease fire. Back to the economy. Everyone
knows Republican Democrat, rich, poor, top, bottom, middle, everyone knows
things are more expensive and things are bad. That's not
the problem. The problem is how many people understand it's
the government's fall. How many people understand that it's that

(08:58):
trillion dollar bill you didn't really care about. That's why
you can't afford eggs. It's the money printing by the trillion,
That's why you can't afford your power bill. The United
States governments spending and printing. It's the reason your life
is more expensive. And unless your cries of pain are
also matched or also paired with cries to reduce government spending,

(09:22):
then you aren't trying to solve a thing and nothing
will change. And how bad are people suffering? Well, this
is probably the biggest thing for me because it's one
thing to get these new reports all the time. Wow,
inflations two point nine percent and power is up thirty
two points. It's one thing to nerd out on details.
The details that matter are details like this. In recent weeks,

(09:44):
we've had gigantic corporations like McDonald's and now Home Depot
coming out and saying people aren't shopping and I need
to explain this, These big mega corporations, they track everything.
When you get to that level as a company, you
have entire divisions of people dedicated to tracking everything. They

(10:07):
understand that in July of twenty twenty two they sold
twenty four point five percent more woodscrews than they did
of July and twenty twenty one. They understand every comparison,
every chart, every graph, they chart absolutely everything in home
depots says people aren't spending. People aren't buying those woodscrews anymore.

(10:28):
McDonald's has come out and said people aren't spending McDonald's
for basic low cost items. People aren't spending. And it's
not just where we're at, it's that nobody is currently
bailing the water. The water levels are just rising and
they're all adding to it. In the meantime, we might

(10:48):
be ninety days away with from Kamala Harris being elected president,
God forbid. But if we do, look, this is the
woman who might take over the reins.

Speaker 6 (10:58):
Economy is one of the voters top concerned. Obviously, polls
out today show inflation is slowing. Why do you think, though,
with recent polling numbers that potentially the policies maybe aren't
resonating with some of the base or some of the
Americans here in the United States.

Speaker 8 (11:15):
Listen, First of all, I think that we know that
it takes time for people to feel the policies.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Of course, they're not going to own anything. That's certainly
not going to change anything. To just give these completely
dishonest answers, Oh, you just need some more time, give
it some more time. Don't worry that you can't afford
to feed your family. Look, this is why I know
it's a nerdy thing. I know a lot of people
don't talk a lot about spending. There are sexier topics.

(11:47):
But I've been screaming about this forever. For years. I've
been saying stuff like this. The GOP lined up for
the last four years, four years and voted yes, and
voted yes, and voted yes, and voted yes on multiple
massive spending bills. Truth is, no one cares, and no

(12:10):
one's gonna care until the whole house of cards come
crashing down and everyone's gonna look around and they're gonna say, well,
how this happened, How this happened. Well, here's the hard
truth of it. Talk about making you uncomfortable, here's the
herd truth of it. When that happens, you and I
will both have to go look in the mirror and say,
that's on me. I never demanded better, so I never

(12:33):
got matter. You get what you get. Don't throw a fit.
Is spending an issue for you in this election cycle
or any election cycle? When you're a Republican congressman, senator
president when he signs a trillion dollar bill? Do you
get mad or do you make excuses? Well, that's the

(12:56):
reason you can't afford eggs. All that may have made
you uncomfortable, but I am right. Peter Saint Andre with
heritage is going to join us next and talk about
how and why this spending is absolutely burying us. Before
he does that, speaking of spending stress, you need to sleep.

(13:17):
We all are going to need to be better rested
in these times, and sometimes we want to take things.
Sometimes we have to take things to help us get
to sleep. It can happen when stress levels rise. After all,
you'll get some dream powder from beam. It's natural s melatonin,
things like that, and you see dream powder. It makes

(13:38):
you feel good when you wake up, not groggy, not tired.
That's the difference. There are lots of things that can
help you sleep only dream powder makes you feel good
when you wake up. Now forty percent off because they
understand things are tough. Times are tough. Right now, shopbeam
dot Com slash Jesse Kelly gets you that deal. We'll

(13:59):
be back.

Speaker 8 (14:08):
Prices for everyday things like groceries are still too high.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
You know it, and I know it.

Speaker 8 (14:14):
You know, when I was Attorney General, I went after
price fixing schemes, and when I am president it will
be a day one priority to fight to bring down prices.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yes, yes, I'm sure they're sitting around stressed about you
not being able to afford eggs anymore. Joining me now,
Peter Saint Ae economists with the Heritage Foundation. He's been
all over this for the longest time. Peter. I talked
a little bit in the opening about this of everyone
knows prices are up. Everyone can see Republican Democrat left,
right middle. Everyone knows things are more expensive. That's not difficult.

(14:51):
What's difficult is getting people to understand it's government spending
and printing causing all this. That is the disconnect here.

Speaker 9 (15:00):
Yeah, absolutely, that is what's driven it from the start.
You know that kicked off during COVID when they spend
several trillion dollars to buy the lockdowns. That led to
a forty percent increase in the money supply, so about
one in three dollars had fresh ink on it, and
just like clockwork, we then got near ten percent inflation
for it. The problem here, of course, is that Kamala

(15:22):
is just repeating the decades long scapegoat trying to blame
companies or the inflation that's caused by government printing money.
She of course, has no plan to decrease government spending.
If anything, she has been so far to the left
of Joe Biden on both taxes and at least energy,
so we can actually expect her to spend more and

(15:43):
create more inflation.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Peter, do you think I mean, I don't want to
say to use the term it's still overused, but do
you think Americans are starting to understand government is the
reason they can't afford things anymore? Because that that is
what drives me crazy. Yeah, Democrats are bad. Republicans are
pretty much just as bad when it comes to spending,
but people don't seem to vote with their wallet. We

(16:07):
have another pool just came out. Yeah, everyone knows prices
are high, but they don't intend to vote with their wallet.

Speaker 9 (16:13):
Why yeah, yeah, I mean really, I blame media. You know,
about half the country I think does understand what's happening.
They understand that government is causing it. The problem is
that the other half of the country still believes what
media tells them. And media is it's not really almost
a Republican or a Democrat thing.

Speaker 7 (16:34):
Media is the pro government party. Government. Media wants more spending.

Speaker 9 (16:38):
It wants to cover up what's causing the inflation, so
they will try to sugarcoat all of these numbers in
the way that works best for the uniparty. And when
it comes to inflation, you know, we've seen it. You know,
it was Putin's price hikes for a minute there, it
was people playing too much on Amazon, it was the
vote stuck in the Suez, Right, It's every excuse under

(16:58):
the sun, except the one thing that's actually causing inflation,
by the way, is causing inflation for thousands of years,
which is printing the money. And both parties want to
keep doing that. Right, as long as there's ammunition for Ukraine,
the Republicans are happy to sign on to any spending bill.
It's really a unit party issue and in terms of
regular voters understanding that.

Speaker 7 (17:20):
I think that comes down to the media.

Speaker 9 (17:22):
Eighty percent of the media wants to carry water for
more government spending for the Unit Party.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Peter, I've asked about the mentality of this before, but
I really am curious what you think these people think.
Republican Democrat, doesn't matter who they are in Congress, president,
they know these numbers, they know what's causing it, They
understand all this, and yet they don't want to stop.
None of them want to stop. None of them even
want to slow down. Do they just not care? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (17:54):
I think it's a problem with our political system in
any ways. So if you are running an election and
the other guy's promising to throw a party and you're
promising to pay for last year's party, no party, we're
going to pay for it. We're gonna pay off the
credit card, who's going to win that election?

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Right?

Speaker 9 (18:13):
So the problem fundamentally is that voters do not feel
like the spending is real. They don't feel like the
deficit is real until they start feeling that with on
which historically takes a crisis, until they start feeling that
they're not actually going to vote for the Fysically responsible candidate.
If voters are not choosing the fiscally responsible candidate, then

(18:34):
it is political suicide to try to go that route.
So instead the parties are essentially doing what voters have
told them to do, which is spend as much as possible,
just put it on you know, either military if you're
on one side of it, on welfare, or importing migrants
if you're on the other side of it. But there's
no space in there for fiscal responsibility because voters aren't

(18:55):
demanding it. They're not demanding it, as you say, partly
because they don't understand how it works.

Speaker 7 (19:00):
The media is deceive them.

Speaker 9 (19:01):
The public education system is deceived them, partly because so
much of it is going you know, it just goes
into deficits two trillion deficit, three trillion deficit.

Speaker 7 (19:09):
What's the difference for the average voter. They don't feel
it yet.

Speaker 9 (19:13):
Eventually they will and then of course we'll get you know,
media telling us how nobody could have possibly seen this coming.

Speaker 7 (19:18):
But unfortunately that takes time.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Peter. We now know the interest on the debt has
gobbled up half of the government revenue. That is just
such a staggering For the month of July they gobbled
up half the government revenue. Now, please act like I
don't know anything, which is not a difficult thing to imagine.
Could you explain what exactly that means.

Speaker 9 (19:41):
Yeah, so it means that every dollar that you are
paying the IRS, fifty cents of that is going out
in debt interest.

Speaker 7 (19:50):
So it's going to Wall Street, it's.

Speaker 9 (19:51):
Going to China, and it's paying for past deficits. Never
mind future deficits or current deficits. That's just paying for
what we've done in the past. Yes, the problem is
that is skyrocketing. So it's up something like fivefold since
the beginning of COVID. Eventually it's not going to be
fifty cents, it's going to be one hundred cents or
one hundred and fifty cents. It just keeps going up.
So at some point that that is not sustainable. Something

(20:14):
is going to break there. They are going to be
unable to raise that much money in capital markets. That
then causes a crisis on government bonds. The interest rates
on bonds goes up, the debt interest goes up. We've
seen this many times in third world countries, where eventually
they are unable to issue new debt they're unable to
pay the old debt, you get a debt crisis.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Okay, So what does that debt crisis look like? Because
it's obviously coming. Only an idiot would say otherwise. Yeah,
I think it's only a matter of time. You know,
we've never been here as a country with deficits this
large in relative peacetime. Remember, a recession is coming. By
all accounts, a recession will eventually come. Historically, if we

(20:57):
go by the past three or four recessions over the
past fifty years, those recessions have added about four trillion
in government spending if we extrapolate. Okay, so the next recession,
we are going to be in absolutely unseen territory.

Speaker 7 (21:13):
At that point.

Speaker 9 (21:14):
Again, if we go back through history, the government is
forced to print more money. That means that the federal
government issues more debt and then the FED ends up
buying it. That's what happened with Japan. So the Bank
of Japan currently owns most of the government debt.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
At that point.

Speaker 9 (21:30):
It's really just a vicious cycle where the government is
printing money. Effectively, it's buying its own money, and it's
just doing it back and forth and spinning it out
into the economy. Once you get into that trap, you
get inflation that gets worse and worse and worse every year.
Now we got there, we got there fifty years ago.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
In the nineteen seventies. What happened in the nineteen.

Speaker 9 (21:51):
Seventies is finally we had a FED chair who said enough,
we're going to break the back of this inflation.

Speaker 7 (21:57):
And that was Paul Volker.

Speaker 9 (21:58):
And he raised rates to think he was seventeen or
eighteen percent right, so like there were like twenty percent
mortgages right. It was very tough. We had two back
to back recessions as a result. But my concern is
that if we get there again, we're not going to
be able to get out of there. And the reason
is because Paul Volker, bless his heart, he cost his

(22:19):
boss the election. Jimmy Carter got destroyed. I think he
won one or two states against Reagan. So Washington is dumb,
but they're not that dumb. They're not going to do
that again. So my concern is that if we fall
back into this nineteen seventy script where we're looking at
a decade of inflation and slow growth, I'm not sure
that we can get out of it.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
This time, So we're doomed to just death spiral from here?
Is that what you think? I know you're not trying
to be Debbie Downer, but if the only solution is
a solution that won't be implemented, then there are no
solutions we would in order to fix it, you would

(22:57):
have to have a politician who gets up there and says,
we're going to cut spending by one third. Okay, that's
what it would take to end the deficits at this point,
so they're collecting something like four to four and a
half trillion, they're spending more like six NAPF trunk. You
would have to cut by one third. You would have
to I mean that's a lot, all right.

Speaker 9 (23:17):
You would have to essentially close everything but social security
and minimal border defense.

Speaker 7 (23:23):
All right, It is pretty close to impossible.

Speaker 9 (23:26):
Moreover, if you suggest that you are going to get
slaughtered in the election, they're going to go through line
my line. They're going to say, what about the poor
children who can't afford their you know, infant formula. I mean,
they're going to go through a list of about ten
thousand things that the government spends money on.

Speaker 7 (23:42):
They're sympathetic, they're to ignore.

Speaker 9 (23:44):
The other million things that that you know, none of
us want the government to be spending on. But anyway,
that's the game that's played. So if you look at
the political calculus of it, it's very hard to see
how somebody can come in here and cut the spending. Now,
we could fix it structurally, okay. One idea Warren Buffett.
His idea is that you tell Congress you pass one law,

(24:05):
and that law says if Congress cannot balance the budget,
then they all have to resign their seats and they
have a lifetime ban from politics.

Speaker 7 (24:14):
So that's the buffet rule. I love that one.

Speaker 9 (24:16):
That one would work, but good luck getting that one through.
The other possibilities might be, you know, a balance budget
amendment where Congress has to balance the budget every single year.

Speaker 7 (24:25):
Again, that's been tried many times for obvious reasons.

Speaker 9 (24:29):
Congress doesn't want to play ball because they love spending
all that money. That's the reason they come to work,
it's the reason they get political donations, is why they're
there in the first place. So really, you would either
need some kind of structural change like that, or you
would need some kind of maverick to come in there.

Speaker 7 (24:43):
And actually say we're going to slash spending for that.

Speaker 9 (24:46):
I think in both cases, realistically, our best odds are
if we get a crisis, then voters are ready for change.
That's what happened with Ronald Reagan. Media, you know, did
the same game on him as they did Trump. They
said he's a radical, he's going to destroy the country,
he's crazy, he's going to start World War three.

Speaker 7 (25:05):
Exact same playbook as they do today. But guess what.

Speaker 9 (25:08):
Americans were desperate enough of the nineteen seventies, as they said, enough,
we need somebody new. Now, Ronald Reagan did not cut spending,
it's true, but he did grow the economy so that
the economy could end up growing into the debt.

Speaker 7 (25:20):
That's probably the best case scenario.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Well, fingers crossed, Peter, you were always awesome. Thank you, brother.
All Right, we have a panel discussing some Arizona problems.
We need that state. We'll talk about that in a moment.
Before we talk about that, let's talk about your cell phone,
your cell phone company specifically. You see, your cell phone's fine,
but if it's Verizon AT and TT Mobile, they're not fine.

(25:51):
These companies hate your guts. They take the money you
spend every month. You pay your cell phone bill every month,
at least I hope you do. They take that money
and they use that money against you, against your culture,
against your country. They do it all the time. They
brag about it publicly. Go look up your cell phone
company in Pride month and tell me what you see.

(26:11):
Switch to pure Talk Pure talks, the patriotic cell phone
company who loves you. They stand with you. Their CEOs
a veteran. They hire Americans, you pay less. Go to
pure talk dot com slash JSETB and switch. We'll be back. Well,

(26:38):
we have big news out of Arizona, and honestly, it's
not great news. It sounds great right off the bat,
but it's not great. There are abortions about to be
on the ballot in November. We'll get into the details
in a moment. But the commedis do this very very well.
They understand how to drive turn out, how to motivate
their base. And there's nothing Democrats love more than slaughtering

(26:59):
the un born in mass And if they put that
on the ballot, it gets Democrats to the polls in
a sun belt state that we really need Trump to win. Remember,
if Trump doesn't sweep these Sun Belt states. That means
he's got a break off two of the three Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,
and that's a tough road ho Joining me now, Morgan McMichael,

(27:20):
contributor to Turning Point USA, KA Lee McGee white, Senior
Fellow Independent Women's Forum. Okay, Morgan, it sounds good, right,
it sounds great. We're going to tackle this pro life thing.
But man, this is the kind of stuff these people
love to turn out their voters.

Speaker 10 (27:37):
It is I mean, I'm from Arizona, living there for
the past two years, and the amount of people that
I see out petitioning, trying to get these signatures, which
they did get enough signatures to put it on the ballot.
What I find incredibly funny is abortion isn't illegal in
the state of Arizona.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
The Democrats want more abortion.

Speaker 10 (27:55):
They want to kill more innocent lives up until six
months four weeks is what they're putting on the ballot.
Abortions legal up to fifteen weeks in the state of Arizona.
But that isn't enough for the Democrats, so now they
have to push the envelope even further. And of course
they're hoping that this is going to get the gen
Z and the women both turn out in the state
of Arizona. But I know that as a turning point

(28:16):
USA and Turning Point Action are doing the work on
the ground, Turning Point Action chasing those ballots. So hopefully
we can't reverse what the left is doing here.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Kaylee, am I thinking about this wrong? Obviously? I'm as
hardcore pro life as you can possibly get, so I
want abortion stopped. Should I be excited? This just looks
like something that's going to hurt us.

Speaker 11 (28:38):
Though to me, well, it will, and we know that
because we've seen historically over the past few years what
the abortion amendments do in the states where they were
put on the ballot. I'm from Michigan. We had our
own abortion amendment on the ballot a couple of years ago,
and in large part because of that amendment, Governor Gretchen Whitmer,
who was pretty unpopular because of her COVID governance, sword

(29:00):
to victory by an extremely wide margin that really no
one was expecting in the state. And this also has
national implications. As you mentioned, the states where abortion is
on the ballot are going to be more difficult for
Trump to win, even though he's tried to pivot to
the center on this issue. He had a sort of
a you know, tumble in Arizona and not too long
ago over their Civil War era law, and he tried

(29:23):
to distance himself from that. He tried to encourage Arizona
legislators to repeal that and to take a more moderate approach.
But it's very difficult when this is Kamala Harris's only issue.
She is going to hammer that repeatedly. She already has
in her campaign visits to Arizona, and we're going to
expect more of that from her in the days ahead.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Morgan, what's it say about us as a country that
you can watch that evil tyrant governor Whitmer destroy her
state ban people from buying gardening seeds, yet they will
crawl over broken glass to vote for her because she
allows them to kill their babies. What does that say
about us as a culture? Now?

Speaker 10 (30:02):
I mean, I think it shows this the depravity of
society and culture, especially.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Among younger generations.

Speaker 10 (30:07):
It shows how the feminist movement has truly encapsulated women
into being so pro abortion. I don't think that feminists
realize that all of the things that they're supporting are
truly anti women and we have lost it as a culture,
and this continues to snowball effect. I mean, look at
also the issue of transgenderism and legalizing having puberty blockers

(30:30):
and gender affirming care for young children.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
You know that's I put that on the same page
as abortion.

Speaker 10 (30:36):
It's really just taking away children's innocence and taking away
children altogether from mothers. And I really think we need
to as conservatives, speak up and be more proactive in
the pro life movement and not allow these more moderate
policies to fly.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, that's true. I'll tell you something that is, at
least to her credit, that's the only position Dome seems
willing to take out there that Well, this exchange is
pretty revealing.

Speaker 12 (31:02):
It seems like she has time if she wanted to
do an interview with a member of the media or
do a news conference. Correct, there does appear to be
that time if she wanted.

Speaker 13 (31:13):
Well, look, she is set on the campaign trail that
she would be doing an interview at some point. She
said that, I think last week during during a ropeline
or when she was talking to reporters. But look, what
is important here, John, is that she is taking her
message directly to the American people. She had a number
of battleground states. I think we had fifteen thousand people

(31:34):
in Detroit last week, twelve to thirteen thousand in Nevada.
She's been taking her message to the voters and drawing
large crowds. So she's actually having those direct conversations.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
But not today.

Speaker 12 (31:44):
The whole thing is the media, not today. She could
do an interview today, I would think, you know, because
she's not out there today.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Well, look, she could.

Speaker 13 (31:52):
She's taking her message directly to voters. And just because
she doesn't have anything an interview schedule in her public
schedule doesn't mean that he's not taking a message directly
to voters.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
A Tayley, what do you make of this campaign? They're
running a campaign based on nothing. They won't take public
positions on policy, they won't actually sit down for interviews.
It seems to me like they're banking on the American
people being okay with that.

Speaker 11 (32:19):
Yeah, it's the revised basement strategy that Biden had back
into twenty twenty. And you know that CNN exchange, it's
pretty pathetic. You know, CNN's hosts trying to sort of
waffle on the issue and be like, oh, well, it
seems as if she would have time. No, no, she
does have time. You know that she has time, so
say that. And why furthermore, why aren't they demanding from

(32:40):
her campaign spokespeople that Harris sit down with them for
a one on one interview. Why aren't there reporters chasing
Harris down the tarmac to get some answers on these questions.
They're letting her ride out this honeymoon period and they're
barely pressing her on any of these important policy issues.
And that's why if you go to Kamala Harris's campaign
website right now, there's not a single page on policy.

(33:03):
It's only donation taps. And that is in large part
because media outlets like CNN are allowing her to get.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Away with this.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Morgan, A lot has been made of women voters. How
you handle that? Well, there were the vans cat Lady
comments that, of course were blown out of proportion by everybody.
And then in response to that, the GOP does what
it usually does and grabs its angles for people who
hate it. And it had to be all about women
outreach and reaching single women. Okay, can we discuss what

(33:33):
the GOP should and shouldn't be doing on outreach for
their base.

Speaker 10 (33:38):
Yeah, I absolutely think that the GOP needs some serious reform,
especially when it comes to attracting women voters and young voters.
Look at the strategy that the Harris campaign has been
using on social media, absolutely taking over platforms like TikTok.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
And if you think about it, there's forty.

Speaker 10 (33:54):
One million members of gen Z that are going to
be eligible to vote in this next election. Why aren't
conservatives doing a better job of talking to.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Us gen Zers?

Speaker 10 (34:03):
We need to be the ones that are actually curating
trends and participating in trends and exposing what the left
is promoting.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
And like you guys said, you know, Harris had.

Speaker 10 (34:12):
Zero policies present or transparent with any of the American people.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
She's going out and doing these.

Speaker 10 (34:17):
Huge rallies with multiple women there and not talking about
anything to them other than hey, we're going to legalize
abortion in reverse Roe v. Wade, And that's really not
a policy to run an entire campaign on. And I
really think they're just writing on the coattails of you know,
we are the social justice campaign. The GOP, I think
really needs to just be talking to female voters more

(34:39):
and ensuring that vote, because otherwise the left is going
to continue to dominize or dominate those voter blocks.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Hayley, what is that message to women voters that would
bring out the women vote?

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Well, I think.

Speaker 11 (34:53):
We need to be clear about which kind of women
were appealing to, because the only demographic that tends to
lean liberal out of all married men, single men, married women,
and single women, is single women. Married women aren't the problem.
Married men tend to vote much more conservative than single women.
And not to be too cynical here, but I actually
don't think the Republican Party should revise its campaign strategy

(35:16):
to only appeal to single women. I do think to
a certain extent, we need to give up on that
demographic and push for a more cultural change instead, because
the single best indicator of whether a woman is going
to vote in a conservative manner is if she gets married,
if she has kids, if she invests in things that
are worth her time and effort, like her community, her church,

(35:37):
her family. That is the ground game for Republicans moving forward.
It's not changing our policy positions to try to win
over the elusive childless cat ladies. It's actually pushing for
long term, systemic change that will make a difference in
women's lives and more than just their politics.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah, it's a cultural change more than politics. Ladies. Thank you,
I appreciate it. All right, let's talk about some overseas things,
because there's a lot going on overseas. Victoria Coach joins us.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Next, we're mobilizing the whole country effort to cut American
cancer dess and half by twenty twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Okay, joining me now, Victoria Coach's VP of foreign policy
at Heritage Foundation.

Speaker 7 (36:31):
Just.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
The only reason I played that for you is we
have a carrier group in the Middle East right now.
Ukraine is officially in control with three hundred and ninety
miles of Russia, and we don't have a president who's
running the country. Victoria, who's running the country right now?
Who gave the order to the carrier group? Does anyone
actually know?

Speaker 14 (36:48):
This is a huge concern because at this point the
president seems completely checked out. We have pictures of the
commander in chief of the United States snoozing soundly on
the beach over the weekend. I've never seen a picture
of an American president sleeping before. I mean, obviously they
have to sleep, but I mean, this isn't something you
advertise in a time of crisis. And as you say, Jesse,

(37:10):
I mean, we have massive assets flowing.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Into the Middle East. We have a potential attack by
the Iranians on Israel. We have the situation in Ukraine, and.

Speaker 14 (37:19):
Nobody's even talking about the Pacific, and we're not sure
who's calling the shots. Do we have four hands on
the wheel? Which is deeply dangerous? Is the vice president
calling the shots? It's very murky, and that makes the
situation we're in all the more perilous.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
That really does Okay, Victoria break down for us what's
going on with Iran? In Israel? Iran has all this bluster.
Israel assassinates a bunch of people that was really cool,
by the way, and Iran says you're going to die,
kill all the Jews and all the stupid stuff they
normally say. But this attack has still not come. It's
been what a week now, it's still not come. What

(37:55):
are they doing preparing?

Speaker 14 (37:57):
It's actually two weeks and there are two possibilities of
what's happened. And what Israel did two weeks ago was
assassinate Ismail Hania, who.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Was the political head of Haama.

Speaker 14 (38:09):
I actually don't differentiate between the political and the military
wings of Hamas.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
I think they're all terrorists.

Speaker 14 (38:15):
But in this case, he was technically the political head
who had been living in Qatar. He was visiting Iran
for the inauguration of Iran's new president, and he was
assassinated literally in his bedroom in a safe house. And
so the Israelis demonstrated an ability which they have demonstrated before,
but this was a very dramatic example of it, of

(38:37):
being able to reach into Iran and touch senior leadership
who are technically very well protected. And so I think
that should be what would think of in a sports
analogy as being a brushback pitch for the Iranians. They
were very startled and very concerned. And if the United
States had leaned in heart at the same time and said, oh,
by the way, we fully back Israel, you guys should

(38:59):
back down on de escalate, I think we would have
more clarity on our situation. But we're now two weeks
out from that, so either they are backing down or
they're preparing something that's more substantial than what they did
in April, and we're unfortunately in the position of just
having to wait and see.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
We're not shaping events at all.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Okay, I have too much I need to get to
with you, Victoria. I could just stay with you for
an hour on this stuff. But ISIS there were rumors
now of an ISIS resurgence, re emergence, however you want
to use that word in Syria. Please don't tell me
these scumbags are coming back.

Speaker 14 (39:34):
Unfortunately, the scumbags are back in town. And what we're
seeing is we'd started to see some burblings from ISIS
in Africa. We just had the spectacle of all the
Taylor Swift concerts being canceled in Vienna because of ISIS
in Europe. And now we have reporting that they are
re emerging in the site of their former caliphate. And

(39:55):
the reason this is so maddening is when President Trump
came into office, one of the first things he did,
I remember clearly in January of twenty seventeen, as he
went to the Pentagon, gathered the Joint chiefs in the
tank and said, Okay, let's defeat ISIS. Let's not inconvenience them,
let's not manage them, let's defeat them. We got to
wipe this caliphate off the map. And the United States

(40:18):
military performed brilliantly as they did, and we were successful
in six months. What you have to do is give
the military the tools they need, give them a specific mission,
let them complete it, and then end the mission so
we don't drift into these endless wars. And it was
one of the great things anyone's ever done for the region.
Nobody likes ISIS. Even ISIS doesn't like ISIS. They're awful,

(40:40):
So this was very positive. But in the permissive atmosphere
that's been created by President Biden and Vice President Harris,
you know, there isn't that kind of strong approach. They've
reverted to the Obama playbook, which was managing a problem
rather than solving it, and so that's what they're doing.
And we have heaven knows how many uses groups in Syria.

(41:01):
They've been there for a decade, it's not clear under
what authorities.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
And I'm just deeply.

Speaker 14 (41:05):
Concerned that they're big enough to be a target, but
not big enough to actually defend themselves effectively.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Victoria. Should I be thrilled or terrified that Ukraine has
launched an offensive into Russia? By the way I applot
them for it. You can't play defense the whole time.
But Ukraine controlling three hundred and ninety miles of Russian
territory is not something Russia is going to stand for.
They'll do anything to stop that. Should I be worried.

Speaker 14 (41:33):
Again, this is another example of the situation getting out
of US control because we're not exerting firm leadership, and
we had heritage, have had concerns about the Biden Harris prosecution.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Of the Ukraine War from the earliest days.

Speaker 14 (41:48):
Their approach has been to sort of incrementally help Ukraine,
but never enough to win the war. Had we gone
in two years ago, absolutely demanded of our European allies
that they take the lead of what was the last
time I looked at a map a war in Europe
and that but we would help them get to victory

(42:10):
in under a year. But what we've done, as I said,
is sort of dribble and drabble out support and then
sort of lift these restrictions.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
It's not clear why the restrictions.

Speaker 14 (42:19):
Were on in the first place, but it doesn't seem
to be happening strategically, and so you know, I agree,
you know the the I don't have tremendous respect for
Russia's sovereign boundaries because they don't have respect for anybody else's.
But yes, that kind of incursion into Russia while Russia
is also making advances in Eastern Ukraine, creates a very

(42:41):
fluid dynamic.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
And our presidents asleep on the beach.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Victoria, thank you come back, so please, we don't we
don't have a commander in chief right now. Let's think
about that, all this stuff going on, we don't even
have a commander in chief. Whatever, we need to light
in the mood. Let's do one of those. Thanks h

(43:13):
it's time to lighten the mood. And this is such
wonderful news. I'm just bubbling with joy here. There's gonna
be a lot more me out there.

Speaker 13 (43:22):
Now.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Let me clarify the First TV. Now it's available in
seven million more homes than it was before. First TV
partnered with HC two Broadcasting. What does that mean that
that doesn't it may not mean anything to you. Well,
allow me to read a little list. Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Phoenix, Tampa, Minneapolis, Charlotte,

(43:44):
Saint Louis, Philly, New York City. That's where you can
watch the first This is in addition to Direct TV
Direct TV stream Samsung TV Plus, Uverse, Pluto TV, Flubo TV,
and many other fast channel platforms. Essentially, this is a
long way of me telling you I'm not going anywhere.
Were we here at the first. We're not going anywhere.

(44:05):
We're gonna keep bringing you everything we've been bringing you,
and we're gonna bring it to a lot more people.
All Right, I'll see them, m m
Advertise With Us

Host

Jesse Kelly

Jesse Kelly

Popular Podcasts

24/7 News: The Latest

24/7 News: The Latest

The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.

Therapy Gecko

Therapy Gecko

An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.