September 6, 2024 • 41 mins
(Full Show) Every election is deemed the most important election ever. Jesse Kelly believes that the 2008 election was the one America couldn't afford to lose. In this special, Jesse goes through the worst policies of Barack Obama and how they did not age well for this country. Everything from Obamacare to foreign policy and weaponization of government. Jesse is joined by Steve Deace, Dr. Aaron Kheriaty and Jim Pfaff to make his point.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's something you hear every single presidential election. I know,
I know you should never say every time or never
that the things you shouldn't say. But I guarantee you
you've heard this, and you've probably said this every election.
What have you heard? What have you said? This is
the most important election ever? Have you said that about
this one?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
That's Trump?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's do do we stop communism or not? It's of
course the most important election ever. But it's not. Oh,
don't get me wrong, it's very important. It's not the
most important election ever. Every election isn't the most important
election ever, And since the sixties, that's what everyone said.
(00:45):
This election is one of the most vital in the
history of America. The most important of all choices will
be made by the American people.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
At the pold This is the most important election in
this nation in fifty years.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
This is the most important election in history.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
In nineteen ninety six, in my opinion, is going to
be the most important election of our lifetimes.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
I am convinced one of the most important elections we're
likely to see for the next fifty years.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
All these choices make this one of the most important
elections in our history.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
This is the most important election of our lifetime.
Speaker 7 (01:21):
This election could not be more important. This election is
the most important election of our lifetime.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
This election is the most important election in our lifetimes.
Speaker 8 (01:33):
The most important election in our lifetimes.
Speaker 9 (01:38):
This is the most important election of our lifetimes.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
November fifth is going to be the most important day
in the history of our country.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
That's the election.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well done, mister producer putting together that little compilation. But
it's true, everyone says it, But every election can't be
the most important election, can it. Some have had to
have been more important than others. The most important election
in this country's history was two thousand and eight. No,
(02:10):
I'm not being dismissive about how important this next election
is and the one after that. I don't know, they're
all really really important. Two thousand and eight was the
one that was the one we couldn't afford to lose,
and we did, and we have paid and we'll continue
to pay the price for losing that election for years
to come, because that is the election that brought us
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Barack Hussein Obama. And you see, there are things, several
things that make Barack Obama so incredibly damaging. Yes, the media,
they've just slabbed all over them. I'm sure you remember all.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
This change has come to America.
Speaker 10 (02:50):
We know that wind can make a cold day feel colder,
but can national pride make a freezing day feel warmer?
It seems to be the case, because, regardless of the
final crowd number estimates, never have so many people shivered
so long with such joy.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
It is radiant happiness.
Speaker 9 (03:10):
In fact, just us lucky enough to be in this
business today, looking out the window here and getting the
reaction when the crowd touches your eye.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
It is such a deal.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
So it was that as many as two million pilgrims
made their way to Washington and the Mall to witness
this most sacred event.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
What a day it was.
Speaker 8 (03:27):
It may take days or years to really absorb the
significance of what happened to America today.
Speaker 10 (03:34):
From above, even the seagulls must have been awed by
the blanket of humanity, and the.
Speaker 8 (03:38):
Mass flickering of cell phone cameras on the mall seemed
like stars shining.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Back at him.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
When Barack Obama started to speak, I was right in
the middle of the crowd. People were crying, they were laughing,
they were cheering. Suddenly someone would just come up and
hug you.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
It was just amazing.
Speaker 8 (03:54):
It was like you're standing in the middle of these
strangers and all of a sudden you had a million
friends around you.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
It was one of the most moving moments in my life.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Except that damaging communist was bringing poison into this country,
into the government. And what made him so dangerous wasn't
the media's love. The media does that for so many.
It was his hatred of the country combined with his
natural abilities. He could speak well, he gave great speeches.
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He knew how to inspire people, and more than that,
he knew how to implement his plans in the government.
You see, he got into power. He got into power,
and he promptly began to clean out levels of government.
He was even cleaning out not just Republicans, he was
cleaning out old, more moderate Bill Clinton types, and he
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was replacing them with people we've never had in our
government before. He took every America hating dirty comi and
he put them in positions of power in the military, FBI, irs,
you name it. He remade this government into a government
that reflects his values. And that's the other thing about Obama.
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His values hate the country. We've had many many bad presidents.
You can argue we've had evil presidents. You can argue
most of them were evil. We've had morons, We've had
guys who screwed things up until the election of Barack Obama,
we've never had one who actually wanted to bring the
country down. Do you remember It's a video maybe you've seen,
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but do you remember that video where he was at
a ceremony with Michelle and she turns to him and
very clearly says, all this for a darn flag. Only
that's not what she says, never him turning. Look at
it remem him turning to her, turns to her and
gives her that nod. Barack Obama hated the United States
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of America. Hates the United States of America. That's his
mission to bring down this country he hates. And that's why. Look,
that's why he sat in this church for so many years.
Speaker 11 (06:18):
When it came to treating the citizens of African descent fairly,
America failed. She put them in change the government, put
them on slave quarters, put them on action auction blocks,
put them in cotton fields, put them in inferior schools,
and then wants us to sing.
Speaker 12 (06:37):
God bless America. No, no, no, not God bless America.
God damn America. That's in the Bible for killing innocent people.
God damn America for treating a citizens that's less than human.
God damn America. As long as see clear contact like
she is God and she is supreme.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
That man baptized Barack Obama's children. Barack Obama took his
America hatred and he brought it into the captain's chair.
You see, if you get on a boat, you can
survive maybe a moron of a sea captain. I don't
know that you can survive a captain who wants to
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send the boat to the bottom of the ocean. And
that's why to this day Barack Obama stayed involved. Or
other presidents, the Bushes, the Clintons, all these people, when
they leave, they leave, let is go retire and do
some speeches. Barack Obama stayed in DC and stayed involved
and still controls things to this day. Because Barack Obama's
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mission of destroying this country, in his mind, is not over.
Every election isn't the most important election ever, They're all important.
Two thousand and eight was the one we could not
afford and we lost it. And so now we're gonna
have to pick up the pieces. Steve Day joins us
next to talk about that we'll be back.
Speaker 8 (08:17):
This most important election you've ever voted in your entire life.
There's a need for fundamental change on our economic philosophy
as well as our foreign policy.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Steve, what really strikes me after looking to that is
the Joe Biden, how young he used to look. But anyway,
let's set all that stuff aside. Joining me now, Steve
Day's host of the Wonderful Steve Days Show. Steve, I've
told people repeatedly it's not that I'm dismissive about the
coming election at all. The one we couldn't afford to
lose is the one we lost in two thousand and eight.
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The Obama cancer is well, right now, it's terminal. Buddy.
Speaker 9 (08:53):
Well, if you look back on what happened in the
country since two thousand and eight, you are correct. Unfortunately,
Republican Party did what it typically does, and it nominated
somebody that was no real threat to Barack Obama. Even
if he had won. We were largely just delaying the inevitable.
Remember John McCain's big thing was don't call Barack Obama
by his actual name, or you were a racist. Barack
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Hussein Obama to call him by that meant you were
a racist. Remember the one time John McCain took over
the lead and the Real Clear Politics polling average was
an early September of eight, and then he canceled his
candidacy so that he could pass the most unpopular single
piece of legislation in American history at the time, TARP,
and only to have the very first debate after that,
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Barack Obama hit John McCain from the right by saying
that TARP was just too expensive and too much government.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Good times, good times. Yeah, I mean, you're right.
Speaker 9 (09:45):
That's the one we could not afford to lose. But
we instead we nominated John McCain, and that's why we
lost it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Steve, A lot of people who aren't hardcore politicos like you,
obviously your audience will know this. They don't understand stand
that Obama never left and this is really what makes
him so different than all the former presidents, the Clintons,
the Bushes, and I don't even like any of those guys,
but they don't really do much politically. They'll show up
at a convention once every four years and rambled through
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a speech, but they walked away from politics. Barack Obama, though,
is a man still very much on a mission, and
he didn't walk away at all.
Speaker 12 (10:22):
No.
Speaker 9 (10:22):
I mean, if you want to know who's really been
running the country for the last four years, it's him
and his minions. I've been running it quietly behind the scenes.
I mean, this is essentially Barack Obama's third term is
what Joe Biden represents. That's why I always scoffed at
the notion of Michelle running. Why why put yourself out there?
Why get mean to death by Trump and his people?
(10:44):
And then you have to you know, supposedly anyway, at
least that's why we used to roll around here, be
forthcoming about your business deals as a candidate when they
have all the power that a companies a presidency now
while nice Homes Tory, I mean they've got Aaron spelling
like homes and the Hamptons and everything else. They've got
the as van Halen wants saying, they got the best
of both worlds, Jesse, they don't need to put themselves
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back to the scrutiny of the voters and back on
a ballot. They're running the show now. And they get
to cash the check in, cash in at the same time.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Steve, foreign policy is one of those complicated things other
than being a chicken hawk, I actually don't really indict
anyone for their foreign policy. I have my own, but
it's complicated diplomacy, the motivations of nation states. But Barack
Obama was one of the first I've ever seen in
my life who operated and as far as foreign policy
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goes with the real solid hatred of America, and he
just kind of assumed that the enemies of America had
a pretty good point about how badly this country sucked.
Talk about his foreign policy, well.
Speaker 9 (11:49):
He wanted to go to war in Syria, remember him
and John McCain. That was one of McCain's last acts actually,
was to him and McCain work together to rally the
country to go to war for quote unquote free the
fighters in Syria. And then there are the clips of
him you remember back in the day of taking the
knee of the Saudi Shakes. But essentially what we're what
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we've learned on the right in the last few years
is it's not the nineteen eighties anymore. It's very hard
to be dogmatic as you said about foreign policy in
terms of an overall philosophy rather than a set of priorities,
what is in the best interest of America and the
American people and then act accordingly. When you and I
were growing up, dogma was it was very clear dogmatically
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how to see the world from a conservative perspective. There
was the Soviet world, and then there was the Western world,
the free world. Things are much more balkanized now, which
you see with the Barack Obama's foreign policy is it's
still very dogmatic philosophically. It doesn't matter what data shows.
For example, I mean you look at the Israelis. They
gave they gave away land for peace, They allowed a
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Palestinian free state right there within their own city gate.
And what they got was, you know, a country that
was elected duly by the people who wanted hamas in charge.
And then October the seventh their version of nine to eleven.
And yet when confronted with that kind of data and
that kind of an example, what the Obama view of
the world will continue to do is hammer meat, nail.
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It doesn't matter. They'll go to the same talking points.
There needs to be a two nations solution, which always
looks a lot like the final solution. We already have
a two state solution. And it gave us Hamas as
a country that basically the Palestinian state did for Hamas
with the Vegas Strip did for the mob just legitimized.
It gave it a legitimate front and the accouterments of
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an actual government, so that it was given some form
of immunity while also standing to attack the Israelis from behind,
which is what you saw on October the seventh. But
these people don't care about reason, they don't care about data.
They want to they will make it work. Whether it
works or not, they will. They will construct the world
as they see fit. They will magically think and project
all the way through. And you cannot convinced them otherwise.
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And it really comes down to a Marxist view of
the world, Jesse. The Marxist views everything as oppressor versus oppressed,
and that is the worldview. It's not the Christian worldview
of a sinful man, you know, rebelling against the grace
of God. It's not a data or utilitarian based worldview
on the needs of the many and the needs outweigh
the needs of the few. It is a strictly Marxist view.
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You're either the oppressor or the oppressed, and everything is
seen dogmatically through that, Lens Steve.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Economically, obviously, Republicans are pretty much just as putrid as
Democrats are. But Barack Obama really really moved this country
to the left super fast economically too, didn't he?
Speaker 9 (14:45):
He did, And if you look at there's really no
place further where you saw that, even though it's looked
at his health policy, but really it was an economic policy,
and that was Obamacare, and that was the culmination going
back to the dawn of the Great Society, long before
you and I I were born of essentially the fever
dream of the modern progressive democratic post Kennedy Democratic Party,
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and with the advent of a single payer healthcare system.
And the reason why I include that in your economic paradigm, Jesse,
is because if you go back thirty years or about
twenty five years prior, when the Clintons tried this and
all of the private health insurance companies got together and
they ran a series of ads. I think they were
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called Harry and Alice, and you might remember these. They
were very devastating ads. The couple is just sitting around
at the home in their home reading the newspaper about
what the devil and the details of hillary Care, and
these ads just destroyed hillary Care and led to the
Contract with America and the first Republican takeover of the
Congress in almost half a century. What you didn't see
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in two thousand and nine as Obamacare was being debated,
you did not see the health insurance industry unite against it.
I live in Iowa. That's the health insurance capital world.
In fact, our Senator Charles Grassley was actually at the
negotiating table with the Obama administration on Obamacare. Why because
the economic paradigm had shifted. We had gone from greed
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is good and the CEO era of the Gordon Geckos
and Leijah Cocas, where everybody fought tooth and nail to
be number one, to now what I would call youth
soccer economics, where everybody just doesn't want to be number
nine and everything's too big to fail. And now government
is no longer the enemy of big business, but they're
actually in concert together the classic definition of fascism, And
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so they realized, why fight big government that they're going
to make people buy our product whether they want it
or not, let's just go ahead and get it on
the ground floor of this and unite behind it. And
that really was the final cementing. You know, most of
the time, you see a major political realignment every generation.
Right Roe versus Weighed fifty years ago created the last
major realignment where you saw the Christian Conservative movement form
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the alliance of Catholics and Evangelicals that propelled Reagan to
the White House. People like, you know, we're long overdue
for another major political alignment. I would argue we had one.
It just happened in the boardrooms of America where these
corporations went from. Maybe they thought people like you and
I were crazy, but they hated big government, and so
they aligned with us to hey, we're going to be
neutral and stay out of it.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
And now they are all in.
Speaker 9 (17:20):
They're the ones that are subsidizing and profiteering off of
Pride Month, they are the proselytizers of the spirit of
the Age. They're bankrolling much of it. And that Obamacare
was really the vanguard of that.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Better to sit at the right hand of the devil
than in his path, That's exactly the route they chose. Okay,
Steve so To wrap this up. That begs the question
where was the American Church during Obama's rise?
Speaker 9 (17:48):
It was getting purpose driven and seeker friendly and creating
legions and legions of false converts while building massive megaopolises
in the suburbs that were modeled much much more after
Pottery Barn than the Church of the New Testament.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Jesse, That's what it was doing.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
All right, We'll be back.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
First, no matter what you've heard. If you like your
doctor or healthcare plan, you can keep it. If you
don't have insurance, you'll finally be able to afford insurance,
and everyone will have the security and stability that's missing today.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Man talk about aging poorly, and I'm not talking about
Barack Obama. Our insurance costs as a family of four
have quadrupled since the passage of Obamacare. What a disastrous
piece of legislation that turned out to be. Joining me
now is someone who knows a lot more about it
than I do, doctor Aaron Carry, author of the book
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The New Abnormal, which you really should pick up, because
what's happening with our medical institutions in this country, they're
absolutely frightening. Okay, doctor, For those who are not in
the medical industry and don't understand how did Obamacare change
your industry?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yes, so it's a complicated question because it's one of
the most complicated pieces of legislation that's ever been passed.
There was so there were so many provisions in the
legislation that virtually no one in Congress who voted for
it read the whole thing, much less understood it. And
there's been a lot of commentary on some key things
in Obamacare, the individual mandate that required people to buy
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insurance and the state run exchanges where you go online
to buy insurance that turned out to be a real
mess when they were first rolled out. But the long
term effects, I think go beyond those two things. We've
seen the closing of rural hospitals, and we've seen hospital mergers,
which ultimately give pace fewer options in terms of where
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and from whom to get healthcare, which obviously contradicts the
remarks that you just quoted from Obama, where he was saying,
if you like your doctor, you're not going to have
to not going to have to find another one. Basically,
most people now cannot even identify who their doctor is
because they medicine has turned into a top down menagerialist enterprise,
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where so called experts at the top dictate how everything
is going to go for everyone underneath. And this top
down control has increased the number of bureaucrats. We have
more people in healthcare now that are in jobs where
they never actually encounter patients than we have people in
healthcare that do face to face contact with patients, whether
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that's doctors or nurses or the person who greets you
at the office when you walk in. So healthcare costs
have grown in large part because of the administrative burdens
that have been laid on healthcare systems by top down
managerial control. I'll mention just two other things that probably
people experience when they walk into the doctor's office.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
The first is the patient.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
The physician no longer looks you in the eye, spends
very little time examining you or even listening to your
chief complaint. Most of the time is spent staring at
a computer screen and asking you questions that have very
little relevance to what you actually came in to get
treatment for. There was a provision in Obamacare basically requiring
the adoption of electronic medical records, which sounded like a
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good idea. At first, until you realize that it's basically
turned physicians into glorified data entry clerks that are having
to check a bunch of boxes and ask a bunch
of questions and gather a bunch of information for third
parties that want that information, rather than attending to the
patient who came in with a specific issue that they
wanted addressed. Patients feel like cattle being moved through hospital systems.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Now.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I don't know if you've had this experience where if
you're in a hospital now they'll actually scan a barcode
on your wrists and your wristband to log into the
electronic medical record system or before the administer of medication.
And I understand it's a quality control measure, but it
turns people into sort of like a supermarket item. You know,
you're made to feel like cattle being moved through this
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system of turnstile medicine where you're processed by nameless and
faceless bureaucrats rather than a doctor or a nurse who
knows you personally and can verify, yes, this is the
right chart for the right patient because I actually know
this patient, I've treated them over a period of time,
or you know, this is the right medication for the
patient because I'm actually I'm actually connected to this patient
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in a longitudinal way. And part of this came about
because of another provision in Obamacare that most people don't understand.
Medicare stopped paying for services and Jason basically gave us
bundled payments for you know, a type of intervention. The
words this turnstile medicine came about because every hip replacement
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is treated the same.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Right.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
You get one payment to the hospital for doing a
hip replacement, and if the patient has a complication, if
the patient takes a little longer to recover, then average
the hospital basically resents that person because that person is.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
A liability for the hospital.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
They're an outlier in this system that's designed for maximum efficiency.
So we get hospital bureaucrats, chief medical officers that are
obsessed with what they call throughput, which is basically run
the patients through the system as quickly as possible. The
focus is not on health and healing. The focus is
on maximal efficiency. So I know there's many other things
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that I could say about Obamacare, but I think the
long to make a very long story short, Obamacare has
increased centralized government bureaucratic power over medicine, taking power out
of the hands of physicians or small groups of healthcare
providers that knew their patients, that knew the needs of
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the local community. And basically what we're seeing now is
a crisis in medicine, and you know, strong satisfaction with
the way medical care is provided because people feel like
they're being treated like an interchangeable widget in a factory
machine of medicine rather than a personal patient that's known
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by someone who's cared for them over a period of time.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
That's what Obamacare gave us.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
It's so funny you brought that up about the data entry.
I just had my physical, just blood work getting done,
and standard annual blood work. That's exactly what he did.
He walked in with his little nurse and assistant and
he sat down in front of the computer and just
asked me questions. As he's sitting there, just clicking things
on the mouth, entering, entering things. I'm not used to it.
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I'm not even I'm not ancient. I'm forty three. I'm
not used to this kind of medical care.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
And some physicians are so fed up with that that
they actually hire people just to enter it system into
the enter your information into the medical record, which is
obviously wasteful. Right the patients should sit there face to
face and talk to you and take a history and
do a physical examination and run you know, appropriate lab tests,
you know, not just ordering things indiscriminately to in order
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to check a bunch of boxes or you know, or
to cover all the bases.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
But that kind of.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Individualized medical care is very hard to provide now because
hospitals and doctors and physician groups are disincentivized to do that.
They're incentivized to check boxes which typically have nothing to
do with your health, and the health outcomes are also poor.
OURFK Junior has been talking about this recently. Trump has
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been talking about this more recently after bringing our FK
Junior on board his team, that we spend more on
healthcare than any other developed nation, twice as much, but
we're like forty eight forty ninth in terms of healthcare
outcomes because we've created a system that functions like an
inefficient bureaucracy rather than a decentralized system that tailor's healthcare
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to the needs of the local population.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
How do we fix it? Can medical care go back
to any resemblance to what it was as long as
we have Obamacare, or is this just what we're stuck
with as long as Obamacare exists.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I've been arguing.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Recently, I publish a piece in the American Mind about
a concept called the Parallel Police, which was developed by
Czech dissidents living under Communism who basically said, look, sort
of the mainstream institutions of society are so corrupted that
it's really hard to fix them from within. And so
our task right now is to create a parallel civil society, basically,
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create new institutions.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
On new models.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
And there are models for this, new models for medical societies.
With doctor from Harvard, Stanford and Duke University, I recently
founded a new medical society called the Hippocratic Society, which is,
you know, an alternative to medical societies like the AMA
that have bought into this managerialist revolution in medicine. There's
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healthcare cooperatives and new models for healthcare funding and healthcare
provision that.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Are popping up here and there.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
And basically, what I think we need to do is
support those new models and those new institutions, to grow them,
to opt into them, to find new and creative ways
of delivering better healthcare for less money, and basically, once
once the proof of concept is out there, those things
will start influencing the mainstream institutions.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
So I'm not.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Sure that we're going to get, you know, a legislative
proposal in the next administration that's going to repeal Obamacare
reform it in ways that would be decentralizing and empowering
to doctors and patients and local communities.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
But we can.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Certainly start doing those kinds of initiatives on the local
level without asking anyone's permission for it. So there's a
lot of physicians who are opting out of these systems
entirely and setting up small practices or small group practices
that are trying to deliver healthcare in different ways and
try to finance it in different ways. So I think
we need more of those kinds of creative, small scale,
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localized initiatives. The Hippocratic Society that I mentioned being just
one of them, but there are other examples of this,
and it's probably going to be a ten to twenty
year project of developing those institutions to the point where
it's clear that this type of decentralized localized healthcare system,
and these new models of delivering care.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Are actually superior.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
People like them more, they want to go see their
physicians more, they're getting better health outcomes.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
They're actually improving their health.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I think it can be done, but we have to
start on a sort of small scale and get creative.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I like it, so there is some hope. Doctor. Thank
you so much. I appreciate you as always. All Right,
we're not done ranting on Obama. Jim Faff joins us next.
He has some memories you'll remember, hang.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
On somehow, and there are a lot of historical reasons
for this. Gun ownership in this country became a ideological
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issue and a partisan issue in ways that it shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
It was so good at that Gosh, I loathe that man.
He was so good at pushing his filthy communist ways
and acting like anyone who opposed him was being political. Ah,
it's not ideological. Just let me disarm you. And you
know what he loved to do more than anything else.
I will despise him for this more than anything else
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Barack Obama did. He's the one who mainstreamed running to
the camera after a mass shooting. You never saw that
prior to Obama. Now every Democrat does it across the country.
They're practically gleeful when a bunch of kids get mowed
down in school. Joining me now, Jim Faff, president of
the Conservative Caucus, Gosh, it used to drive me crazy
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watching him do that crap. Jim.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
He weaponized the oval office in ways more than any
president had before him. Remember, just five days before the
two thousand and eight election, when he was first elected,
he says, we're five days away from fundamentally transforming America.
There's no doubt that what he meant by that was
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not to go away from the Constitution and to move
away from every traditional norm, traditional institution that had made
this country great and really made us prosperous. And we're
seeing the end result of that happening even to this day.
In fact, every major problem we're looking at it probably
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has its origin and root in Barack Obama's presidency.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Jim Obama. People remember slightly his background as much as
they could possibly remember. Begins how the media bent over
backwards to cover it up. But take as much time
as you need and explain once again, this guy's background.
He was not the standard run of the mill Democrat
at all. This dude is an America hating commy from.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Way back, There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
In fact, he was trained indirectly by an America hating
commy named Saul Lensky. You remember back in the day
when we were talking about Barack Obama and he was
touting himself being a community organizer, and that's what he
used to do. And when you would bring up the
Salolensky problem, people would tell you what are you doing,
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calling him a communist and even calling Saolinsky a communist Sallynsky.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
His mentor was John L.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Smith, the union organizer, very avowedly communist union organizer from
the early twentieth century. You listen, I'm not trying to
beat up unions entirely here. I have my negatives with unions,
but not all people that get involved with unions or communists.
The problem is unions were founded in this country from
a communist impetus to radically transform America.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
That was their whole purpose and goal.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Saulolensky developed the most precise methodology for doing that.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
When you look.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
At UH, for example, all the wokeness and politics esg DEI,
this is all has its foundations in community organizing. What
Salolensky did in the nineteen sixties was he found a
way to extract money from major corporations so that he
could fund his efforts by threatening them to harm their businesses.
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Barack Obama did that in a sincere and deep way
during his presidency. I mean, everything that we have a
problem with with woke culture has its origins in Barack
Obama being able to utilize the office of the Presidency
to fundamentally transform America if he could.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
He was one of the first ones. I realized that
Clinton's loved to do this kind of crap too, but
not to the level Obama did with weaponizing his Justice Department.
He just looked at his Justice Department as if it
was his plaything, a weapon he could aim at all
his political opponents, and he did it well.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
And again, don't forget that Eric Holder during the Fast
and Furious Debate where we found out that the United
States government was sending guns down to cartels in Mexico
that were finding their way back up on the street.
By the way, don't talk to me about Second Amendment
in ra whatever organization that stands for guns in this country,
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don't tell me that they're the problem. Barack Obama was
that problem, and it makes you kind of wonder. And remember,
Eric Holder was reprimanded by Congress because of the fast
and furious thing.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Don't forget it might.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Be possible that that whole gun running operation was intended
to bring chaos to the United States that they could
use to change the political debate. You always wonder this,
but yes, beyond that, you refer to him weaponizing the
Justice Department.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
In every way possible.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
He Eric Holder, under Barack Obama's direction, and certainly because
Eric Holder thinks the same way, went out to weaponize
politics for the advantage of Democrats, for the advantage of
Democrats against republic The irs was weaponized against the Tea
Party movement to thwart their effort to take this country back,
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which we saw the beginnings of but was quickly squashed,
and also not only by Barack Obama but by some
Republicans who didn't want it to happen either.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
But really, Barack Obama.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Utilized every lever of power that he had as president
to change how we do politics in this country. All
of the problems we look at the weaponization of government
against Donald Trump and the persistent effort of our deep
state to keep conservatives from having any effect, whether it's
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on the social media platforms or anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
In the media.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Even this all began with the Obama administration. We are looking.
The chaos that we see in our politics right now
is a direct relation to Barack Obama.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Jim Obama's foreign policy was dreadful in every way, but anyone,
even a non partisan observer, could see he really really
seemed to have a real ax to grind with Israel,
snubbing every chance he got to twist that knife, he
twisted it. Now, I understand people not really caring about
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other countries, but he really was bothered by this nation.
Why where'd that come from.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
It's hard to know specifically, because he hasn't said things
clearly enough in public, or do we have any records
of discussions with him to put a fine measure of
understanding on it. But he his father was a Muslim
and from Africa, wasn't anty colonialist, So it's either direct
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sympathy with Muslim sentiment, which I'm not entirely certain is
the case, but it does come from this colonialist idealism
that Barack Obama clearly was part of that would resent
not just Israel, but any country that came into.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Power in a local area.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
So I think that that's motivating a whole lot of it.
The other part of it was that Benjamin nettan Yahoo,
who was Prime Minister during Barack Obama's administration, was a
conservative who believed in fund and still does believe in
fundamental principles of liberty, and that really offended Barack Obama's
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sentiment because he doesn't believe in fundamental principles of liberty. Lastly,
he falls into that basic Democrat tendency that is anti Israel,
as much as they want to claim otherwise, because they
really do not want Israel to succeed in that area.
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They have political reasons to connect with the Arab countries there,
and they have a disbelief in these principles of democracy.
Don't forget Barack Obama's administration spent. I think the number
was eight hundred thousand dollars in an effort to take
down Benjamin Nett and Yahoo during one of their election cycles.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
They were literally.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
Involved with American tax dollars to take down Benjamin Net
and Yahoo.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
What about Venezuela, Cuba, I remember that picture from Cuba
of Obama going down there. Why what was that about.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
Well, again, I think it's this proclivity to be close
to closer to communism idiologically than to be part of
a free market, freedom loving liberty ideology. Listen, Barack Obama
is not a constitutionalist. He was a constitutional here, studied
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constitutional law, and he was not a constitutionalist by any
stretch of the imagination, without a doubt. He wanted to
fundamentally transform US away from constitutional principles, but in empathy
towards that he loved people like Kugu Chavez and Fidel
Castro who was still leading Cuba at the time. And frankly,
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it's just an ideological alignment. So there's always been this
desire among Democrats all the way back into Teddy Kennedy
back in the nineteen eighties and some Democrats before him
who had this sympathy with communist Russia during the Cold
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War and with communist ideals. I mean, again, what's playing
out right now, Look at what's happening in Brazil right now.
What's taking place in Brazil is precisely what Barack Obama
was working towards during his president tendency. A shutting down
a political opposition, a utilization of the levers of the
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judicial system to thwart political opponents, and then a building
within the structure of the government system to inoculate excuse me,
against conservative ideas that's in constitutional ideas.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
That's what Barack Obama did. He's very third world in
that regard.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
No doubt. Jim, thank you so much. That was excellent.
I appreciate it. All right. I have final thoughts next. Look,
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we can recover from Barack Obama, but it's going to
take a long time. And we have to understand that
he's still behind the scenes, still holding the string, is
still working. We have to counter his network, encounter his power,
and we have to understand wherever we find his influence,
it has to be removed. If Lord Willing Trump is elected,
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he has to go find everyone Obama put into power
and remove them from power. It must be done, all right,
We'll do it again
What's something you hear every single presidential election. I know,
I know you should never say every time or never
that the things you shouldn't say. But I guarantee you
you've heard this, and you've probably said this every election.
What have you heard? What have you said? This is
the most important election ever? Have you said that about
this one?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
That's Trump?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's do do we stop communism or not? It's of
course the most important election ever. But it's not. Oh,
don't get me wrong, it's very important. It's not the
most important election ever. Every election isn't the most important
election ever, And since the sixties, that's what everyone said.
(00:45):
This election is one of the most vital in the
history of America. The most important of all choices will
be made by the American people.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
At the pold This is the most important election in
this nation in fifty years.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
This is the most important election in history.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
In nineteen ninety six, in my opinion, is going to
be the most important election of our lifetimes.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
I am convinced one of the most important elections we're
likely to see for the next fifty years.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
All these choices make this one of the most important
elections in our history.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
This is the most important election of our lifetime.
Speaker 7 (01:21):
This election could not be more important. This election is
the most important election of our lifetime.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
This election is the most important election in our lifetimes.
Speaker 8 (01:33):
The most important election in our lifetimes.
Speaker 9 (01:38):
This is the most important election of our lifetimes.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
November fifth is going to be the most important day
in the history of our country.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
That's the election.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well done, mister producer putting together that little compilation. But
it's true, everyone says it, But every election can't be
the most important election, can it. Some have had to
have been more important than others. The most important election
in this country's history was two thousand and eight. No,
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I'm not being dismissive about how important this next election
is and the one after that. I don't know, they're
all really really important. Two thousand and eight was the
one that was the one we couldn't afford to lose,
and we did, and we have paid and we'll continue
to pay the price for losing that election for years
to come, because that is the election that brought us
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Barack Hussein Obama. And you see, there are things, several
things that make Barack Obama so incredibly damaging. Yes, the media,
they've just slabbed all over them. I'm sure you remember all.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
This change has come to America.
Speaker 10 (02:50):
We know that wind can make a cold day feel colder,
but can national pride make a freezing day feel warmer?
It seems to be the case, because, regardless of the
final crowd number estimates, never have so many people shivered
so long with such joy.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
It is radiant happiness.
Speaker 9 (03:10):
In fact, just us lucky enough to be in this
business today, looking out the window here and getting the
reaction when the crowd touches your eye.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
It is such a deal.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
So it was that as many as two million pilgrims
made their way to Washington and the Mall to witness
this most sacred event.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
What a day it was.
Speaker 8 (03:27):
It may take days or years to really absorb the
significance of what happened to America today.
Speaker 10 (03:34):
From above, even the seagulls must have been awed by
the blanket of humanity, and the.
Speaker 8 (03:38):
Mass flickering of cell phone cameras on the mall seemed
like stars shining.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Back at him.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
When Barack Obama started to speak, I was right in
the middle of the crowd. People were crying, they were laughing,
they were cheering. Suddenly someone would just come up and
hug you.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
It was just amazing.
Speaker 8 (03:54):
It was like you're standing in the middle of these
strangers and all of a sudden you had a million
friends around you.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
It was one of the most moving moments in my life.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Except that damaging communist was bringing poison into this country,
into the government. And what made him so dangerous wasn't
the media's love. The media does that for so many.
It was his hatred of the country combined with his
natural abilities. He could speak well, he gave great speeches.
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He knew how to inspire people, and more than that,
he knew how to implement his plans in the government.
You see, he got into power. He got into power,
and he promptly began to clean out levels of government.
He was even cleaning out not just Republicans, he was
cleaning out old, more moderate Bill Clinton types, and he
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was replacing them with people we've never had in our
government before. He took every America hating dirty comi and
he put them in positions of power in the military, FBI, irs,
you name it. He remade this government into a government
that reflects his values. And that's the other thing about Obama.
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His values hate the country. We've had many many bad presidents.
You can argue we've had evil presidents. You can argue
most of them were evil. We've had morons, We've had
guys who screwed things up until the election of Barack Obama,
we've never had one who actually wanted to bring the
country down. Do you remember It's a video maybe you've seen,
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but do you remember that video where he was at
a ceremony with Michelle and she turns to him and
very clearly says, all this for a darn flag. Only
that's not what she says, never him turning. Look at
it remem him turning to her, turns to her and
gives her that nod. Barack Obama hated the United States
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of America. Hates the United States of America. That's his
mission to bring down this country he hates. And that's why. Look,
that's why he sat in this church for so many years.
Speaker 11 (06:18):
When it came to treating the citizens of African descent fairly,
America failed. She put them in change the government, put
them on slave quarters, put them on action auction blocks,
put them in cotton fields, put them in inferior schools,
and then wants us to sing.
Speaker 12 (06:37):
God bless America. No, no, no, not God bless America.
God damn America. That's in the Bible for killing innocent people.
God damn America for treating a citizens that's less than human.
God damn America. As long as see clear contact like
she is God and she is supreme.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
That man baptized Barack Obama's children. Barack Obama took his
America hatred and he brought it into the captain's chair.
You see, if you get on a boat, you can
survive maybe a moron of a sea captain. I don't
know that you can survive a captain who wants to
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send the boat to the bottom of the ocean. And
that's why to this day Barack Obama stayed involved. Or
other presidents, the Bushes, the Clintons, all these people, when
they leave, they leave, let is go retire and do
some speeches. Barack Obama stayed in DC and stayed involved
and still controls things to this day. Because Barack Obama's
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mission of destroying this country, in his mind, is not over.
Every election isn't the most important election ever, They're all important.
Two thousand and eight was the one we could not
afford and we lost it. And so now we're gonna
have to pick up the pieces. Steve Day joins us
next to talk about that we'll be back.
Speaker 8 (08:17):
This most important election you've ever voted in your entire life.
There's a need for fundamental change on our economic philosophy
as well as our foreign policy.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Steve, what really strikes me after looking to that is
the Joe Biden, how young he used to look. But anyway,
let's set all that stuff aside. Joining me now, Steve
Day's host of the Wonderful Steve Days Show. Steve, I've
told people repeatedly it's not that I'm dismissive about the
coming election at all. The one we couldn't afford to
lose is the one we lost in two thousand and eight.
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The Obama cancer is well, right now, it's terminal. Buddy.
Speaker 9 (08:53):
Well, if you look back on what happened in the
country since two thousand and eight, you are correct. Unfortunately,
Republican Party did what it typically does, and it nominated
somebody that was no real threat to Barack Obama. Even
if he had won. We were largely just delaying the inevitable.
Remember John McCain's big thing was don't call Barack Obama
by his actual name, or you were a racist. Barack
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Hussein Obama to call him by that meant you were
a racist. Remember the one time John McCain took over
the lead and the Real Clear Politics polling average was
an early September of eight, and then he canceled his
candidacy so that he could pass the most unpopular single
piece of legislation in American history at the time, TARP,
and only to have the very first debate after that,
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Barack Obama hit John McCain from the right by saying
that TARP was just too expensive and too much government.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Good times, good times. Yeah, I mean, you're right.
Speaker 9 (09:45):
That's the one we could not afford to lose. But
we instead we nominated John McCain, and that's why we
lost it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Steve, A lot of people who aren't hardcore politicos like you,
obviously your audience will know this. They don't understand stand
that Obama never left and this is really what makes
him so different than all the former presidents, the Clintons,
the Bushes, and I don't even like any of those guys,
but they don't really do much politically. They'll show up
at a convention once every four years and rambled through
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a speech, but they walked away from politics. Barack Obama, though,
is a man still very much on a mission, and
he didn't walk away at all.
Speaker 12 (10:22):
No.
Speaker 9 (10:22):
I mean, if you want to know who's really been
running the country for the last four years, it's him
and his minions. I've been running it quietly behind the scenes.
I mean, this is essentially Barack Obama's third term is
what Joe Biden represents. That's why I always scoffed at
the notion of Michelle running. Why why put yourself out there?
Why get mean to death by Trump and his people?
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And then you have to you know, supposedly anyway, at
least that's why we used to roll around here, be
forthcoming about your business deals as a candidate when they
have all the power that a companies a presidency now
while nice Homes Tory, I mean they've got Aaron spelling
like homes and the Hamptons and everything else. They've got
the as van Halen wants saying, they got the best
of both worlds, Jesse, they don't need to put themselves
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back to the scrutiny of the voters and back on
a ballot. They're running the show now. And they get
to cash the check in, cash in at the same time.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Steve, foreign policy is one of those complicated things other
than being a chicken hawk, I actually don't really indict
anyone for their foreign policy. I have my own, but
it's complicated diplomacy, the motivations of nation states. But Barack
Obama was one of the first I've ever seen in
my life who operated and as far as foreign policy
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goes with the real solid hatred of America, and he
just kind of assumed that the enemies of America had
a pretty good point about how badly this country sucked.
Talk about his foreign policy, well.
Speaker 9 (11:49):
He wanted to go to war in Syria, remember him
and John McCain. That was one of McCain's last acts actually,
was to him and McCain work together to rally the
country to go to war for quote unquote free the
fighters in Syria. And then there are the clips of
him you remember back in the day of taking the
knee of the Saudi Shakes. But essentially what we're what
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we've learned on the right in the last few years
is it's not the nineteen eighties anymore. It's very hard
to be dogmatic as you said about foreign policy in
terms of an overall philosophy rather than a set of priorities,
what is in the best interest of America and the
American people and then act accordingly. When you and I
were growing up, dogma was it was very clear dogmatically
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how to see the world from a conservative perspective. There
was the Soviet world, and then there was the Western world,
the free world. Things are much more balkanized now, which
you see with the Barack Obama's foreign policy is it's
still very dogmatic philosophically. It doesn't matter what data shows.
For example, I mean you look at the Israelis. They
gave they gave away land for peace, They allowed a
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Palestinian free state right there within their own city gate.
And what they got was, you know, a country that
was elected duly by the people who wanted hamas in charge.
And then October the seventh their version of nine to eleven.
And yet when confronted with that kind of data and
that kind of an example, what the Obama view of
the world will continue to do is hammer meat, nail.
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It doesn't matter. They'll go to the same talking points.
There needs to be a two nations solution, which always
looks a lot like the final solution. We already have
a two state solution. And it gave us Hamas as
a country that basically the Palestinian state did for Hamas
with the Vegas Strip did for the mob just legitimized.
It gave it a legitimate front and the accouterments of
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an actual government, so that it was given some form
of immunity while also standing to attack the Israelis from behind,
which is what you saw on October the seventh. But
these people don't care about reason, they don't care about data.
They want to they will make it work. Whether it
works or not, they will. They will construct the world
as they see fit. They will magically think and project
all the way through. And you cannot convinced them otherwise.
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And it really comes down to a Marxist view of
the world, Jesse. The Marxist views everything as oppressor versus oppressed,
and that is the worldview. It's not the Christian worldview
of a sinful man, you know, rebelling against the grace
of God. It's not a data or utilitarian based worldview
on the needs of the many and the needs outweigh
the needs of the few. It is a strictly Marxist view.
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You're either the oppressor or the oppressed, and everything is
seen dogmatically through that, Lens Steve.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Economically, obviously, Republicans are pretty much just as putrid as
Democrats are. But Barack Obama really really moved this country
to the left super fast economically too, didn't he?
Speaker 9 (14:45):
He did, And if you look at there's really no
place further where you saw that, even though it's looked
at his health policy, but really it was an economic policy,
and that was Obamacare, and that was the culmination going
back to the dawn of the Great Society, long before
you and I I were born of essentially the fever
dream of the modern progressive democratic post Kennedy Democratic Party,
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and with the advent of a single payer healthcare system.
And the reason why I include that in your economic paradigm, Jesse,
is because if you go back thirty years or about
twenty five years prior, when the Clintons tried this and
all of the private health insurance companies got together and
they ran a series of ads. I think they were
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called Harry and Alice, and you might remember these. They
were very devastating ads. The couple is just sitting around
at the home in their home reading the newspaper about
what the devil and the details of hillary Care, and
these ads just destroyed hillary Care and led to the
Contract with America and the first Republican takeover of the
Congress in almost half a century. What you didn't see
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in two thousand and nine as Obamacare was being debated,
you did not see the health insurance industry unite against it.
I live in Iowa. That's the health insurance capital world.
In fact, our Senator Charles Grassley was actually at the
negotiating table with the Obama administration on Obamacare. Why because
the economic paradigm had shifted. We had gone from greed
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is good and the CEO era of the Gordon Geckos
and Leijah Cocas, where everybody fought tooth and nail to
be number one, to now what I would call youth
soccer economics, where everybody just doesn't want to be number
nine and everything's too big to fail. And now government
is no longer the enemy of big business, but they're
actually in concert together the classic definition of fascism, And
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so they realized, why fight big government that they're going
to make people buy our product whether they want it
or not, let's just go ahead and get it on
the ground floor of this and unite behind it. And
that really was the final cementing. You know, most of
the time, you see a major political realignment every generation.
Right Roe versus Weighed fifty years ago created the last
major realignment where you saw the Christian Conservative movement form
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the alliance of Catholics and Evangelicals that propelled Reagan to
the White House. People like, you know, we're long overdue
for another major political alignment. I would argue we had one.
It just happened in the boardrooms of America where these
corporations went from. Maybe they thought people like you and
I were crazy, but they hated big government, and so
they aligned with us to hey, we're going to be
neutral and stay out of it.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
And now they are all in.
Speaker 9 (17:20):
They're the ones that are subsidizing and profiteering off of
Pride Month, they are the proselytizers of the spirit of
the Age. They're bankrolling much of it. And that Obamacare
was really the vanguard of that.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Better to sit at the right hand of the devil
than in his path, That's exactly the route they chose. Okay,
Steve so To wrap this up. That begs the question
where was the American Church during Obama's rise?
Speaker 9 (17:48):
It was getting purpose driven and seeker friendly and creating
legions and legions of false converts while building massive megaopolises
in the suburbs that were modeled much much more after
Pottery Barn than the Church of the New Testament.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Jesse, That's what it was doing.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
All right, We'll be back.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
First, no matter what you've heard. If you like your
doctor or healthcare plan, you can keep it. If you
don't have insurance, you'll finally be able to afford insurance,
and everyone will have the security and stability that's missing today.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Man talk about aging poorly, and I'm not talking about
Barack Obama. Our insurance costs as a family of four
have quadrupled since the passage of Obamacare. What a disastrous
piece of legislation that turned out to be. Joining me
now is someone who knows a lot more about it
than I do, doctor Aaron Carry, author of the book
(19:01):
The New Abnormal, which you really should pick up, because
what's happening with our medical institutions in this country, they're
absolutely frightening. Okay, doctor, For those who are not in
the medical industry and don't understand how did Obamacare change
your industry?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yes, so it's a complicated question because it's one of
the most complicated pieces of legislation that's ever been passed.
There was so there were so many provisions in the
legislation that virtually no one in Congress who voted for
it read the whole thing, much less understood it. And
there's been a lot of commentary on some key things
in Obamacare, the individual mandate that required people to buy
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insurance and the state run exchanges where you go online
to buy insurance that turned out to be a real
mess when they were first rolled out. But the long
term effects, I think go beyond those two things. We've
seen the closing of rural hospitals, and we've seen hospital mergers,
which ultimately give pace fewer options in terms of where
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and from whom to get healthcare, which obviously contradicts the
remarks that you just quoted from Obama, where he was saying,
if you like your doctor, you're not going to have
to not going to have to find another one. Basically,
most people now cannot even identify who their doctor is
because they medicine has turned into a top down menagerialist enterprise,
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where so called experts at the top dictate how everything
is going to go for everyone underneath. And this top
down control has increased the number of bureaucrats. We have
more people in healthcare now that are in jobs where
they never actually encounter patients than we have people in
healthcare that do face to face contact with patients, whether
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that's doctors or nurses or the person who greets you
at the office when you walk in. So healthcare costs
have grown in large part because of the administrative burdens
that have been laid on healthcare systems by top down
managerial control. I'll mention just two other things that probably
people experience when they walk into the doctor's office.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
The first is the patient.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
The physician no longer looks you in the eye, spends
very little time examining you or even listening to your
chief complaint. Most of the time is spent staring at
a computer screen and asking you questions that have very
little relevance to what you actually came in to get
treatment for. There was a provision in Obamacare basically requiring
the adoption of electronic medical records, which sounded like a
(21:32):
good idea. At first, until you realize that it's basically
turned physicians into glorified data entry clerks that are having
to check a bunch of boxes and ask a bunch
of questions and gather a bunch of information for third
parties that want that information, rather than attending to the
patient who came in with a specific issue that they
wanted addressed. Patients feel like cattle being moved through hospital systems.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Now.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I don't know if you've had this experience where if
you're in a hospital now they'll actually scan a barcode
on your wrists and your wristband to log into the
electronic medical record system or before the administer of medication.
And I understand it's a quality control measure, but it
turns people into sort of like a supermarket item. You know,
you're made to feel like cattle being moved through this
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system of turnstile medicine where you're processed by nameless and
faceless bureaucrats rather than a doctor or a nurse who
knows you personally and can verify, yes, this is the
right chart for the right patient because I actually know
this patient, I've treated them over a period of time,
or you know, this is the right medication for the
patient because I'm actually I'm actually connected to this patient
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in a longitudinal way. And part of this came about
because of another provision in Obamacare that most people don't understand.
Medicare stopped paying for services and Jason basically gave us
bundled payments for you know, a type of intervention. The
words this turnstile medicine came about because every hip replacement
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is treated the same.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Right.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
You get one payment to the hospital for doing a
hip replacement, and if the patient has a complication, if
the patient takes a little longer to recover, then average
the hospital basically resents that person because that person is.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
A liability for the hospital.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
They're an outlier in this system that's designed for maximum efficiency.
So we get hospital bureaucrats, chief medical officers that are
obsessed with what they call throughput, which is basically run
the patients through the system as quickly as possible. The
focus is not on health and healing. The focus is
on maximal efficiency. So I know there's many other things
(23:46):
that I could say about Obamacare, but I think the
long to make a very long story short, Obamacare has
increased centralized government bureaucratic power over medicine, taking power out
of the hands of physicians or small groups of healthcare
providers that knew their patients, that knew the needs of
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the local community. And basically what we're seeing now is
a crisis in medicine, and you know, strong satisfaction with
the way medical care is provided because people feel like
they're being treated like an interchangeable widget in a factory
machine of medicine rather than a personal patient that's known
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by someone who's cared for them over a period of time.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
That's what Obamacare gave us.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
It's so funny you brought that up about the data entry.
I just had my physical, just blood work getting done,
and standard annual blood work. That's exactly what he did.
He walked in with his little nurse and assistant and
he sat down in front of the computer and just
asked me questions. As he's sitting there, just clicking things
on the mouth, entering, entering things. I'm not used to it.
(24:57):
I'm not even I'm not ancient. I'm forty three. I'm
not used to this kind of medical care.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
And some physicians are so fed up with that that
they actually hire people just to enter it system into
the enter your information into the medical record, which is
obviously wasteful. Right the patients should sit there face to
face and talk to you and take a history and
do a physical examination and run you know, appropriate lab tests,
you know, not just ordering things indiscriminately to in order
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to check a bunch of boxes or you know, or
to cover all the bases.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
But that kind of.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Individualized medical care is very hard to provide now because
hospitals and doctors and physician groups are disincentivized to do that.
They're incentivized to check boxes which typically have nothing to
do with your health, and the health outcomes are also poor.
OURFK Junior has been talking about this recently. Trump has
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been talking about this more recently after bringing our FK
Junior on board his team, that we spend more on
healthcare than any other developed nation, twice as much, but
we're like forty eight forty ninth in terms of healthcare
outcomes because we've created a system that functions like an
inefficient bureaucracy rather than a decentralized system that tailor's healthcare
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to the needs of the local population.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
How do we fix it? Can medical care go back
to any resemblance to what it was as long as
we have Obamacare, or is this just what we're stuck
with as long as Obamacare exists.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I've been arguing.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Recently, I publish a piece in the American Mind about
a concept called the Parallel Police, which was developed by
Czech dissidents living under Communism who basically said, look, sort
of the mainstream institutions of society are so corrupted that
it's really hard to fix them from within. And so
our task right now is to create a parallel civil society, basically,
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create new institutions.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
On new models.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
And there are models for this, new models for medical societies.
With doctor from Harvard, Stanford and Duke University, I recently
founded a new medical society called the Hippocratic Society, which is,
you know, an alternative to medical societies like the AMA
that have bought into this managerialist revolution in medicine. There's
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healthcare cooperatives and new models for healthcare funding and healthcare
provision that.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Are popping up here and there.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
And basically, what I think we need to do is
support those new models and those new institutions, to grow them,
to opt into them, to find new and creative ways
of delivering better healthcare for less money, and basically, once
once the proof of concept is out there, those things
will start influencing the mainstream institutions.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
So I'm not.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Sure that we're going to get, you know, a legislative
proposal in the next administration that's going to repeal Obamacare
reform it in ways that would be decentralizing and empowering
to doctors and patients and local communities.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
But we can.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Certainly start doing those kinds of initiatives on the local
level without asking anyone's permission for it. So there's a
lot of physicians who are opting out of these systems
entirely and setting up small practices or small group practices
that are trying to deliver healthcare in different ways and
try to finance it in different ways. So I think
we need more of those kinds of creative, small scale,
(28:26):
localized initiatives. The Hippocratic Society that I mentioned being just
one of them, but there are other examples of this,
and it's probably going to be a ten to twenty
year project of developing those institutions to the point where
it's clear that this type of decentralized localized healthcare system,
and these new models of delivering care.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Are actually superior.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
People like them more, they want to go see their
physicians more, they're getting better health outcomes.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
They're actually improving their health.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I think it can be done, but we have to
start on a sort of small scale and get creative.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I like it, so there is some hope. Doctor. Thank
you so much. I appreciate you as always. All Right,
we're not done ranting on Obama. Jim Faff joins us next.
He has some memories you'll remember, hang.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
On somehow, and there are a lot of historical reasons
for this. Gun ownership in this country became a ideological
(29:42):
issue and a partisan issue in ways that it shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
It was so good at that Gosh, I loathe that man.
He was so good at pushing his filthy communist ways
and acting like anyone who opposed him was being political. Ah,
it's not ideological. Just let me disarm you. And you
know what he loved to do more than anything else.
I will despise him for this more than anything else
(30:09):
Barack Obama did. He's the one who mainstreamed running to
the camera after a mass shooting. You never saw that
prior to Obama. Now every Democrat does it across the country.
They're practically gleeful when a bunch of kids get mowed
down in school. Joining me now, Jim Faff, president of
the Conservative Caucus, Gosh, it used to drive me crazy
(30:30):
watching him do that crap. Jim.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
He weaponized the oval office in ways more than any
president had before him. Remember, just five days before the
two thousand and eight election, when he was first elected,
he says, we're five days away from fundamentally transforming America.
There's no doubt that what he meant by that was
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not to go away from the Constitution and to move
away from every traditional norm, traditional institution that had made
this country great and really made us prosperous. And we're
seeing the end result of that happening even to this day.
In fact, every major problem we're looking at it probably
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has its origin and root in Barack Obama's presidency.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Jim Obama. People remember slightly his background as much as
they could possibly remember. Begins how the media bent over
backwards to cover it up. But take as much time
as you need and explain once again, this guy's background.
He was not the standard run of the mill Democrat
at all. This dude is an America hating commy from.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Way back, There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
In fact, he was trained indirectly by an America hating
commy named Saul Lensky. You remember back in the day
when we were talking about Barack Obama and he was
touting himself being a community organizer, and that's what he
used to do. And when you would bring up the
Salolensky problem, people would tell you what are you doing,
(32:05):
calling him a communist and even calling Saolinsky a communist Sallynsky.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
His mentor was John L.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Smith, the union organizer, very avowedly communist union organizer from
the early twentieth century. You listen, I'm not trying to
beat up unions entirely here. I have my negatives with unions,
but not all people that get involved with unions or communists.
The problem is unions were founded in this country from
a communist impetus to radically transform America.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
That was their whole purpose and goal.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Saulolensky developed the most precise methodology for doing that.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
When you look.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
At UH, for example, all the wokeness and politics esg DEI,
this is all has its foundations in community organizing. What
Salolensky did in the nineteen sixties was he found a
way to extract money from major corporations so that he
could fund his efforts by threatening them to harm their businesses.
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Barack Obama did that in a sincere and deep way
during his presidency. I mean, everything that we have a
problem with with woke culture has its origins in Barack
Obama being able to utilize the office of the Presidency
to fundamentally transform America if he could.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
He was one of the first ones. I realized that
Clinton's loved to do this kind of crap too, but
not to the level Obama did with weaponizing his Justice Department.
He just looked at his Justice Department as if it
was his plaything, a weapon he could aim at all
his political opponents, and he did it well.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
And again, don't forget that Eric Holder during the Fast
and Furious Debate where we found out that the United
States government was sending guns down to cartels in Mexico
that were finding their way back up on the street.
By the way, don't talk to me about Second Amendment
in ra whatever organization that stands for guns in this country,
(34:09):
don't tell me that they're the problem. Barack Obama was
that problem, and it makes you kind of wonder. And remember,
Eric Holder was reprimanded by Congress because of the fast
and furious thing.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Don't forget it might.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Be possible that that whole gun running operation was intended
to bring chaos to the United States that they could
use to change the political debate. You always wonder this,
but yes, beyond that, you refer to him weaponizing the
Justice Department.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
In every way possible.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
He Eric Holder, under Barack Obama's direction, and certainly because
Eric Holder thinks the same way, went out to weaponize
politics for the advantage of Democrats, for the advantage of
Democrats against republic The irs was weaponized against the Tea
Party movement to thwart their effort to take this country back,
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which we saw the beginnings of but was quickly squashed,
and also not only by Barack Obama but by some
Republicans who didn't want it to happen either.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
But really, Barack Obama.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Utilized every lever of power that he had as president
to change how we do politics in this country. All
of the problems we look at the weaponization of government
against Donald Trump and the persistent effort of our deep
state to keep conservatives from having any effect, whether it's
(35:45):
on the social media platforms or anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
In the media.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Even this all began with the Obama administration. We are looking.
The chaos that we see in our politics right now
is a direct relation to Barack Obama.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Jim Obama's foreign policy was dreadful in every way, but anyone,
even a non partisan observer, could see he really really
seemed to have a real ax to grind with Israel,
snubbing every chance he got to twist that knife, he
twisted it. Now, I understand people not really caring about
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other countries, but he really was bothered by this nation.
Why where'd that come from.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
It's hard to know specifically, because he hasn't said things
clearly enough in public, or do we have any records
of discussions with him to put a fine measure of
understanding on it. But he his father was a Muslim
and from Africa, wasn't anty colonialist, So it's either direct
(36:57):
sympathy with Muslim sentiment, which I'm not entirely certain is
the case, but it does come from this colonialist idealism
that Barack Obama clearly was part of that would resent
not just Israel, but any country that came into.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Power in a local area.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
So I think that that's motivating a whole lot of it.
The other part of it was that Benjamin nettan Yahoo,
who was Prime Minister during Barack Obama's administration, was a
conservative who believed in fund and still does believe in
fundamental principles of liberty, and that really offended Barack Obama's
(37:37):
sentiment because he doesn't believe in fundamental principles of liberty. Lastly,
he falls into that basic Democrat tendency that is anti Israel,
as much as they want to claim otherwise, because they
really do not want Israel to succeed in that area.
(37:58):
They have political reasons to connect with the Arab countries there,
and they have a disbelief in these principles of democracy.
Don't forget Barack Obama's administration spent. I think the number
was eight hundred thousand dollars in an effort to take
down Benjamin Nett and Yahoo during one of their election cycles.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
They were literally.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
Involved with American tax dollars to take down Benjamin Net
and Yahoo.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
What about Venezuela, Cuba, I remember that picture from Cuba
of Obama going down there. Why what was that about.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
Well, again, I think it's this proclivity to be close
to closer to communism idiologically than to be part of
a free market, freedom loving liberty ideology. Listen, Barack Obama
is not a constitutionalist. He was a constitutional here, studied
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constitutional law, and he was not a constitutionalist by any
stretch of the imagination, without a doubt. He wanted to
fundamentally transform US away from constitutional principles, but in empathy
towards that he loved people like Kugu Chavez and Fidel
Castro who was still leading Cuba at the time. And frankly,
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it's just an ideological alignment. So there's always been this
desire among Democrats all the way back into Teddy Kennedy
back in the nineteen eighties and some Democrats before him
who had this sympathy with communist Russia during the Cold
(39:44):
War and with communist ideals. I mean, again, what's playing
out right now, Look at what's happening in Brazil right now.
What's taking place in Brazil is precisely what Barack Obama
was working towards during his president tendency. A shutting down
a political opposition, a utilization of the levers of the
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judicial system to thwart political opponents, and then a building
within the structure of the government system to inoculate excuse me,
against conservative ideas that's in constitutional ideas.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
That's what Barack Obama did. He's very third world in
that regard.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
No doubt. Jim, thank you so much. That was excellent.
I appreciate it. All right. I have final thoughts next. Look,
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we can recover from Barack Obama, but it's going to
take a long time. And we have to understand that
he's still behind the scenes, still holding the string, is
still working. We have to counter his network, encounter his power,
and we have to understand wherever we find his influence,
it has to be removed. If Lord Willing Trump is elected,
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he has to go find everyone Obama put into power
and remove them from power. It must be done, all right,
We'll do it again
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