December 10, 2024 • 44 mins
The Assad regime has fallen in Syria and Biden is going to give humanitarian relief to the rebels. Lindsey Graham also also let his feelings known in perhaps the longest tweet ever. Victoria Coates joins the show to expand upon all things Syria and breaks it down. Mary Margaret Olohan of The Daily Wire talks DC with Jesse. Finally David Pollack, host of The Family Goals podcast, tries to convince Jesse that college football doesn't stink now.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What is going on in Syria and what should we
do about that? We will talk about it tonight in general,
in detail. You'll get all bumed up on Syria. We
have Victoria Coach joining us to talk about that. We
have culture war stuff. Can they just get rid of
the fourteenth Amendment? All that and more coming up? And
I'm right, let's talk about Syria, shall we? And let
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me go ahead and get you prepared for what you're
about to see here on I'm right, we're going to
have a bit of a general discussion about foreign policy
and humanitarian aid.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'll be handling that.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
But if you're one of these people dying for details,
you want to know who are the factions, who are
we rooting for, who are rerooting against? Victoria Coach is
going to join us in just a few minutes to
break down details. So we'll give you the thirty thousand
view and we'll give you the.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Up closer personal.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Now discuss First of all, you want to know where
a large percentage of the cops who die, where they die,
how they die. This will come back to Syria and
everything else. But police officers are obviously killed sometimes in
the line of duty. Sadly, and it happens a lot
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at night, pull people over at night. It happens, of course,
of course, it happens in all the scenes you see
in the movies where you're kicking in the door of
a drug dealer. These things happen. But if you know
any cops, most cops will tell you the most dangerous
situation they've ever faced in their careers, and oftentimes the
one that kills cops are domestic disputes.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
All day long, they are catching bank robbers and murderers
and gang bangers. But the thing that kills cops a
large percentage of the time is a domestic dispute.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And why is it? This will come back foreign policies.
Stay with me. Why is that? Why is that? Well,
you are an.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Outsider, and you as a copper called to a situation,
and you're called to a situation where there's a husband,
there's a wife, and there's a problem. You have not
been there for the entire problem, and there's no way,
no matter how much you listen, you can understand the
entire problem. They get the problem and they're fighting. You
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are the outsiders stepping in and you step into a
volatile the most volatile situation because they both reside in
the house, they know the history, they know what happened
that night, and there are emotions flying all over the place,
the most extreme emotions because they know each other so well,
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so they know each other well, they're tearing each other's
hair out. And then you, the outsider, step in to
try to control the situation, and that that is the
guy who gets shot a lot in the line of duty.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It is it is now.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I want you to think about that when it comes
to foreign policy. You see what I just said, it's
just kind of a more modern, more easy to understand
way that the foreign fathers understood foreign fathers founding fathers
understood foreign policy.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You see, it's not.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
That they were not interested in what happened across the globe.
They knew what happened across the globe mattered then and now,
of course it mattered. It always mattered, it will always matter.
It's not that they didn't care if France was squaring
off a thing, and of course they cared. But what
they did was they studied the entire course of human history,
and what they found was it's really really for the
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best if you mind your own business. It's really for
the best if you don't look across the pond and
see some conflict and say to yourself, wow, we should
get involved there. We should definitely try to control things there.
That is a recipe to get you burned. Why would
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you go dive into the middle of somebody else's problem.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Now what I just.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Said makes total sense, I'm sure to you most normal people,
it makes total sense to So why doesn't it make
sense to our politicians, Republican and Democrats?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I should know.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Why why are they so against just minding their own business. Well,
there are a few different reasons, and all of them
are awful. First and foremost, they don't ever have to die,
and their children never have to die. We used to
have foreign policy in this country, and the politicians and
generals and amirals who would carry out that foreign policy,
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either they themselves would be put in harms way or
had been put in harms way, or their children I'm
talking on the front lines. We have Teddy Roosevelt's son
dying in World War Two, on the front lines dying.
But that doesn't happen anymore. It's your kid who has
to die, it's my kid who has to die, their
kids are they're off at Harvard or onto an internship
with Senator Idiot's office.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So that's a big reason.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Another reason is it's hugely, hugely financially beneficial if someone
else has to die and no one I know has
to die, and I get some extra campaign donations out
of this.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
The defense industry, oh love.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
If we get mixed up in this, well that's always
a good thing. Maybe my brother's cousin's uncle needs a job. Hey,
Boeing is hiring Boeing. You want to hook my guy up.
Don't forget I cook things off in Syria. There's a
huge vested financial interest in all this, and.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
For being honest.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Lastly, it makes you sound tough, like a leader and
patriotic to go on adventures outside of your border. And
this is not unique to our country. Everyone understood historically,
politicians understood if your approval ratings are low, raise up
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an army and go fight some foreigners. It makes you
look patriotic, It makes you looks like it look like
a leader. The people of your nation will think higher
of you. Julius Caesar, when he was assassinated, was actually plotting.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
A foreign campaign that was totally.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Unnecessary why it was getting less popular domestically.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Hey, gather up an army, let's go fight somebody.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
And it's really gross when you understand the motivations behind
it all, and when you sit and you think that
people in North Carolina it's freezing right now, some are
still without homes, living in tents. And the President of
the United States of America couldn't wait to run to
the microphone to announce We're going to hand out.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Some aid to Syria with a.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
New constitution, new governess serves all series. This process to
be determined by the Syrian people themselves. In the United
States will do whatever we can to support them, including
through humanitarian relief to help restore Syria after more than
a decade of war and generation to brutality by this
sold family.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
We're going to rebuild Syria for them while Americans are
still suffering, I mean suffering in Hawaii, still from that fire.
You do remember the fire, right He's Palestine, North Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, Virginia,
suffering President of the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Though he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Get to look like a brave foreign adventurer by handing
out some goodies.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
To North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
He's swooping into Syria and rebuild everything look like a
million bucks, of course, and they're going to use a
bunch of words that create emotions inside of us.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Keep this in mind.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
The propaganda war is always coming for you, coming for me.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
ISIS.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I HATEIS you hate ISIS. If you boil down to
what those scumbags did, you can make an argument to
the most evil human beings who ever lived.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And so when they announced that.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
We're dropping air strikes on people, of course ISIS was
brought up.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
We will help stability, insure stability in eastern Syria, protecting
any personnel are personnel against any threats, and will remain
our mission against ISIS. WIST have be maintained, including the
security of detention facilities where ISIS fighters are being held
as prisoners. We're cleared eyed about the fact that ISIS
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will try to take advantage of any vacuum to re
establish its capability and to create a safe haven. We
will not let that happen. In fact, just today, US
Force Is conducted a dozen of precision strikes air strikes
within Syria targeting ISSIS camps and ISIS operatives.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Okay, let's hope that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Let's remember that you also can't believe anything these people say.
They lie about everything all the time, especially when it
comes to confusing foreign conflicts. What's actually going on in Syria?
Who were the fighters?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Whatever?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
But let's take him at his word, which we probably
shouldn't do. The guy who lied about everything, Let's say
it was about isis okay?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Fine?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
But why are we already involved? Why do we always
feel the need to get involved. Every fight should not
be our fight. Every fight cannot be our fight. And
this is not Look, this is not isolated. To Joe Biden,
I was going to read you a long statement from
Lindsey Graham, one of these neocon Republican types, but I'm
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not even gonna bother reading the whole thing. It's just
more confusion. Let's get involved, we have to ramp things up.
Let's get bipartisan, and let's get involved. How long are
we going to do this? How long?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Remember remember George Bush, Remember this.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
My fellow citizens, at this American and coalition forces or
in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq,
to free its people, and to defend the world from
grave danger. I want Americans and all the world to
know that coalition forces will make every effort to spare
in US and civilians from harm. A campaign on the
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harsh terrain of a nation as large as California could
be longer and more difficult than some predict. We have
no ambition in Iraq except to remove a threat and
restore control of that country to its own people.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
How that work? You know what? I changed my mind.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I think I will read you this Lindsey Graham quote
just because it's so long, it's so convoluted. Tell me
if you think the United States government can do even
a fraction of what I'm about to lay out that
they say here without completely mucking the whole thing up
in a million different ways and costing lives and god
knows how much money. Here's what Lindsay Graham had to said.
This sounds very straightforward. I appreciate the air strikes against
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ISIS targets in Syria, but it will not be enough.
We have to ensure that roughly fifty thousand ISIS prisoners
in northeast Syria are being primarily being primarily held by
Kurdish forces are not released. We should not allow the
Kurdish forces who helped us destroy Isis on President Trump's
watch be threatened by Turkey r radical Islamis who've taken
over Syria. Turkey has legitimate concerns regarding different groups that
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reside in northwestern northeastern Syria. But if there's a conflict
between Turkey and Syrian democratic forces or Turkey at tab
oh my gosh, you see what I mean. It's not simple,
it's not straightforward, and we shouldn't be there. And the
morons who run America's foreign policy couldn't possibly pull this
off even if they wanted to. For the first time
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in my adult life, can we just let them have
at it? This is a domestic dispute, yet another one
we don't have to show.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Up at and get involved.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
All that may have made you uncomfort but I am
right if you want more detail, what are the factions,
the forces, the strategies that work. Victoria codes knows all
about this area, all about what's going on, And for
you nerds who need the details, actually I want the
details too.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I'm a nerd too. We're going to go to Victoria
in a moment.
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Speaker 2 (13:07):
We'll be back, all right.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So that was the general American Forum policy talk. But
I know you want some details. What are the factions,
the forces, the history, what should we be doing? And
I'm here to tell you that I'm not the one
you should talk to. Victoria Coach is the one you
should talk to. VP of Foreign Policy at the wonderful
Heritage Foundation. She is fantastic Victoria. This shouldn't be hard
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for you, being as how.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
We've met before.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I want you to imagine I have the mind of
a small child, and I don't know anything about Syria
and the factions and the forces. And should I be cheering,
should I be crying? Where are we going? So I'm
just going to.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Hand the show over to you.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Tell me what is going on and what we should
be doing about it.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Well, Jesse, good to be with you, and I think
in this case we're going to embrace the d we
should be both sharing hand crime.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
On the one hand, we have the horrible Beshier al Assad.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
We've had fifty years of Asad brutal Assad rule in Syria.
All your listeners and viewers need to know is that
at the end, what Asad did in his horrible prison
was turn off all the electricity and the ventilation. So literally,
they're people prisoners, political prisoners, exphyxiating as we speak because
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they can't get into to release them. That's what kind
of people we're dealing with here. But unfortunately, on the
other hand, the so called rebels are not what you
would call freedom fighters. This is not George Washington and
the Founding Fathers by any stress stretch of the imagination.
These folks are alums of both al Qaeda and Isis.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
The leader of them.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Algebt Golani has a ten million dollar Rewards for Justice
price tag on his head, has committed horrendous atrocities, having
been radicalized by both the second end of Fada and
nine to eleven attacks.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
And so really, at this point.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
You know, we have on the one hand, folks like
the Assads who are backed by Iran and Russia. We
have the so called rebels who are backed by Turkey.
None of this is good in any way, and I
think the Israelis have at one hundred percent right. They
are taking additional high ground around their northern border to
be able to keep an eye on these people, because
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just today the militants posted a video in which they
said they were coming first for Jerusalem and then they
were coming for the holy shrines in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
That's do thereafter.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Okay, that's that is such a great place.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
For us to begin. Let's start with the rebels. We'll
come back to Asad because actually I'm fascinated about that.
You mentioned one couple things stuck out to me. That's
al Qaeda and ISIS.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I know, as many people watching those, those two groups
are not exactly best buds. I find that interesting. So
they're what united in Syria, that's one. Two. You mentioned
their leader has a ten million and dollar bounty on
his head. People with that kind of bounty on their
head do not live very long. How long has this
guy been out here with that kind of bounty.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Well, it's it's interesting.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Yes, these these factions don't generally get along. And we
have the new group HTS, which are the descendants of
the old group job At Alnusro, both especially designated terrorist groups.
These tend to be Sunni militant groups and they generally
hate each other. But the one thing they hate more
Jesse is the United States and Israel and increasingly Saudi Arabia,
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and so you know, that's what unites them, and they
sort of have come together here and so you know,
that's that's why this is such such.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
An enormous degree of concern.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Is these folks can become wildly violent and you know,
again unconfirmed, but videos of them harassing Christians today, you know,
it may be just a very short period of time
before you know, they they start committing atrocities of their
own against them minorities in Syria, which means that President Biden,
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who was patting himself on the back, almost got a
krick in his neck yesterday. He was doing it so
enthusiastically about how he had brought peace to Syria that
may look pretty disingenuous in about two days time.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Okay, let's focus on Asad now for a little bit.
You mentioned minority groups in Syria. I know there's a
Christian minority group there.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I know there are others.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
How were they treated under a Sad? And you mentioned
he had a fifty year brutal regime. Talk about that
and what was up with the minorities there?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Now, they were quite brutal as well.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
And that's where we have to not be looking for
any green shoots here because nobody is on the good side.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
And so half as al a Sad.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
But Shira al Asad's father came into power right around
nineteen seventy two, so this has been going on for
about fifty four years, and fifty seventy one seventy two,
so fifty three fifty four years. Math isn't my strong suit,
but you see what I mean, they've had heated chemical
weapons strikes on minorities in their country. Your listeners might
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remember there were two strikes during the Trump administration in
April of seventeen in April of eighteen which were so horrific,
so many children killed that President Trump ordered military retaliation
for this, and seventeen unilaterally and eighteen we had.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
British and French support.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
But this is really absolutely abhorrent behavior. They also pursued
nuclear weapons, which the Israelis took out about twenty years ago.
So this is just a very very bad, bad dictatorship
which has been the hostile and enemy of Israel. They've
attacked Israel many times, fought wars against Israel. They are
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responsible for attacks on American citizens. So absolutely nothing really
redeemable about the Assads.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
So if they hate Israel and they've attacked Israel, and
anyone even begged the familiar with that region knows they
have done, so, why such an opposition to them? Clearly
the opposition was significant and widespread if they were able
to topple it, what's al Keda and Isis's problem with them?
Speaker 7 (19:19):
Now?
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Well, Haita and ISAs don't like them because they are
so called Aloalites. Which is a sect of Islam that
the Sunni extremists like Al Qaeda and Isis consider heretical.
So they want to get rid of them on that
ground so that they're not pure enough in their Islam.
And as I said, the Assad state and power by
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brutally repressing everybody who disagreed with them. So they've been
they've been on the wrong side of that for five
decades now, so a lot of people hate them. And
maybe twelve years ago, at the beginning of the Syrian
Civil War, some of the rebels were not entirely infected
with this. But if you remember, President Obama allowed the
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situation to fester, kept drawing red lines and then not
doing anything when people crossed over them.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
And then in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
We had the spectacle of him saying, oh, Isis is
just al Qaeda JV. And then suddenly Al Isis was
raging across Syria and Iraq, establishing the largest caliphate since
the Middle Ages and beheading American journalists on video, among
other atrocities. And we had to go back into a
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rock at that point to get rid of these people.
And that's who now we have emerging in Syria. So
this has to be watched extremely closely and primarily so
it doesn't spill over into Israel.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Okay, tell me about these Kurdish forces Victoria. I know
they have a bunch of ISIS prisoners from that horrible
fighting before. Are these Kurdish forces? I know Turkey is
not thrilled about them. What's their status? Who are they?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Friends? Enemies? Are they in deep trouble?
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Right now, again, we're going to embrace the and there
there are a number of different kinds of Kurds scattered
across this region. We have the Iraqi Kurds in Kurdistan,
who have been great and good allies to the United States.
You could see a lot better allies than we find
in Baghdad, for example, really good partners. In northeastern Syria,
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you have a range of folks. We have the Syria
Defense Forces the SDF, which have been since the Obama
era our partners in that region. Yes, they have fought
bravely against ISIS, have done some sort of questionable things
of their own, but of course everyone in the region
in this region largely has and as you said, the
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guarding about thirty thousand ISIS militants.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
No one will take these are the worst of the worst.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
They're women and children in this groups, and literally none
of their home countries will take them back they're so radicalized.
And the SDF, with a support of about nine hundred
American troops, are the ones who are guarding them and
keeping this situation more or.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Less under control.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
What complicates this further is President Erdowan of Turkey, of course,
on the northern border of this region, considers pretty much
every Turkic terrorist. There is this PKK group which are
particularly militant against Turkey that he hates most specifically, but
pretty much all Kurds are anathema to Erdowan, And so
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in a way, you could say the Obama era policy
had failure baked in from the outset because like it
or not, Turkey is a fellow member of NATO. Turkey
has the largest military in Europe. Do I agree with
their current leadership, No? And do I agree with what
they're doing now, No, But you know this was always
going to come to a head. Turkey was always going
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to win this battle, and we've chosen to create this
untenable situation, as I said, primarily as the policy of
President Obama. So again, it's extremely complicated and murky and
there really aren't that many white nights here.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
And there certainly aren't. Okay, finally, I swear this is
my last one. What's their problem with Saudi Arabia. You
said they're all Sunni. I don't understand.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Well, there is this sect of radical Islam who consider
the House of Saud the illegitimate keeper of the two Mosques,
the two holiest sites of Islam and Mecca and Medina,
and that they want to dominate those and so they
have also been hostile to our traditional golf partners and allies,
Saudi Arabia UAE, for example Bahrain. Even though they are Sunni,
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they are considered way too moderate for these jihadist extremists,
and so they want to take over these holy sites.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
And remember the third holiest.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Site in Islam is Jerusalem, and so first they want
to come for the you know, for the Mosques, and
then they want to come for Jerusalem because the added
benefit of Jerusalem is they would get to kill a
whole lot of Jews, which is their other favorite pursuit.
So this is an interesting scenario though, because it makes
the case for why a peace deal and a chord
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or a normalization a deal if you will. Between Saudi
Arabia and Israel makes so much sense. They're facing a
common enemy here, which is also the enemy of the
United States.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
You know, it's the same kind of.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Scenario where they're the little Satan and we're the big Satan.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Victoria, thank you so much. That was wonderful. Appreciate it.
I'm so much smarter now. I'm going to take so
much of that information and tell all my friends and
not give Victoria any credit and just act like I'm
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Speaker 1 (25:46):
Let's start catching up on some culture war stuff, because
that's nothing we're ever gonna set aside on this show.
As much as we care about dollars and cents, done
of that matters if we turn into Sodom and Gomorrah,
which we are well on our way. Joining me now,
DC correspondent for The Daily Wire does a great job.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Mary, Margaret Olahan.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Mary, okay, First of all, this Supreme Court hearing with
the child tranny stuff and Tennessee and things like that.
I know you wrote that wonderful book, d trans are
you what kind of a feeling did you get from that?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Are they going to uphold this law? No?
Speaker 6 (26:19):
I don't think well, yes, I think they are.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
What we heard from the justices last week is that
they seem very predisposed to uphold Tennessee's law protecting kids
from these transgender procedures based on everything they were saying.
Of course, we can't totally predict, and we won't have
a decision until off spring or maybe early June, but
it's looking good for Tennessee and for the legislation that
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they enacted here to protect kids.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Mary.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Nationally, everyone has a different perspective on things. You're more
all over this stuff than I am. It feels like
maybe we reached peak tranny at some point in time
here and that now of fish, the tide is pushing
back the other way. I'm sure I didn't put that
as delicately as you would have, but have we reached
peak tranny? H Jesse? You might be right on that one.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
I mean, especially after the twenty twenty four election, we
did this massive story here at Delley Wire about how
the Trump campaign really leaned into the transgender issues, especially
in some of their ads where they pointed out that,
you know, Kamala's for they them, president Trump is for you,
or they pointed out that Kamala supports taxpayer funded transgender
surgeries for illegal immigrants.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Just insane things.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
Like that that the American people listened to and thought,
what that's absurd. And I think at the end of
the day, we know that a lot of people went
to the poll specifically on the trans issues. And voted
Trump into office specifically because of that the twenty twenty
four sleeper issue. So I would argue that the tide
is in ded turning on this topic. I think that
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more and more Americans are just pushing back on this
radical craziness when it comes to men and women's spaces,
when it comes to transgender procedures for kids. And Trump
has seen this, He's leaned into that messaging. His most
effective ad was the one that I just mentioned, the
one highlighting Kammalis extremism, and I think that's very indicative
of where our culture's at.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
But also all these de.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
Transition or lawsuits, the legislation all over the country protecting
kids from these types of things, all of this to
me is a sign that, yes, the tide is turning.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Mary.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Now, none of the information that's come out recently has
been news to you or me or really anybody probably
watching us right now on television. So what is it
about the general public are they just now finding out?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Is that? What it is?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Is it that you and me were in a bubble
gear and everyone watching and the general public just didn't
realize how pervasive.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
This stuff was. Because this has been going on for
a few years now.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
It is true, it has been going on for several years.
But I think part of the problem is that our
legacy media is complicit in all of this. Our legacy
media uses the terminology of the left to obscure what's
actually going on. So, for example, they say gender affirming
care when what they should say is transgender surgeries, hormones
and puberty blockers, even for kids. But they purposefully use
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these euphemisms because these leftists orgs have told them to
help them to promote these types of things, and that
sounds crazy and conspiratorial. But anytime you take a look
at CNN Associated Press and let me know if they're
talking about gender affirming care, because most Americans won't really
know what that story is about because it's so purposefully deceitful.
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Whereas if you read the Daily Wire, we call it
what it is. We call it transgender surgeries, hormones and
puberty blockers.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
We're not going to hide any of that.
Speaker 8 (29:39):
We're going to set the truth out there and let
people decide. And I think many conservative outlets have done
this in recent months and it's really helped shine.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
A light on this topic.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
Conservative commentators as well people like you just speaking the truth,
you know, being funny, like you just were about the
topic and helping people understand. This is crazy. This is
not something that people are aligned with, and we got.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
To put a stop to it.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Mary, There's plenty of demonic, evil crap going on when
it comes to this kind of stuff, but I don't
think a lot of people are aware of how intimately
involved big Pharma.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Is in this.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I know in my state of Texas, we just ran
recently had some training activism because of a law here.
Some people did some really good journalism and dugg Ins
wouldn't found out big Farma was funding at all, all
those turbo freaks in the streets with the leather chaps
and crap like that on It was all big pharma money.
It's big Pharma who wants these customers who are going
to need god knows how many pills and therapy for
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the rest of their lives because they chopped their penis off.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Right.
Speaker 8 (30:39):
People don't realize how long term these procedures are when
you think about it. Let's say, let's say your son
wants to become a woman and he starts taking estrogen.
He doesn't just take estrogen for a week. He takes
it for the rest of his life if he's trying
to be a woman for the.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Rest of his life. And that's crazy.
Speaker 8 (30:57):
That's bills upon bills upon bills. That's so much hormones
in his body that should not be there. The same
thing for girls, they're pumping themselves full of testosterone for
the rest of their foreseeable life. So this is bills
for a very long time, and it is a profitable
endeavor for a big pharma. But I think the reckoning
is coming. You know, you look at these d transitioner
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lawsuits and you see they're suing the hospitals, they're suing
the medical providers, they're suing the therapists and the teachers
and the doctors. Everybody is going to have their come up.
And so there was a massive lawsuit last week on
a trans doctor who's one of the most high profile ones.
She's considered the gold standard of doctors. She is being
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sued for medical negligence because she pushed this child down
this path when she was only fourteen years old. Okay,
that girl for a double miss sectomy.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Oh, that is so freaking unimaginably said, Okay, let's changed
to something else. Again, you should really pick up Mary's
book T d trans if you want to get in
a little bit more bul.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
On this stuff. Abortion.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Of course, the right loves to run away from this
issue now because we feel like we've lost.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
But where are we on it?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Roe versus Way getting overturned was wonderful. This is not
something we can just simply dance away from, though, because
babies are still being massacred by the million.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Where are we at on it?
Speaker 8 (32:19):
Well, Jesse, I always love talking about this topic with
you because you're not afraid to call it like it is.
I think post Dobbs, what we're seeing across the country
is states trying to enact protections to protect babies from
you from abortion. But we've seen so much misinformation, especially
during the election cycle.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Of course, Kamala Harris's campaign.
Speaker 8 (32:39):
Knew that this was their shoe, and the more they
promoted this abortion misinformation, the more likely people were, especially
young women, to vote for Kamala based on abortion. And
so they planted stories all over the country, and they
promoted stories all over the country that spread misinformation such as,
you know, pro life laws are causing women to have
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to miscarry their babies or pro life laws are causing women,
if they do miscarry their babies to not be able
to receive necessary care.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
That's a lie.
Speaker 8 (33:09):
Obviously, in some states like Florida have done a really
good job in combating that misinformation, but unfortunately different places
have not been so effective, and so there are many
confused women. And I think what I've seen from the
pro life movement is efforts to be really clear to
say no, this pro life law protects women. It's here
to protect women, to protect babies. You're not going to
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get denied miscarriage care.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
In fact, you do need that carry.
Speaker 8 (33:34):
You shouldn't be afraid to go to the doctor. So
I think pro lifers are really focusing on that right now,
messaging saying we support the mom, we support the baby,
we want to be there for both of you. And
there's a lot of pushback right now and trying to
get that message across.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Very as always outstanding, we'll come back soon and thank
you for what you do. All right, So we're going
to do something a little bit different here. David Pollock
is going to join us former you know, college football standout.
I remember watching David Pollack play NFLS big sports guys
got to let's talk about some family stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
And I'm also gonna start.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yelling and screaming about this stupid college football playoff.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Everyone disagrees with me on it.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
I'm pitching a fit and I'm going to pitch a
fit to David Pollock about it next and see what
he has to say. Baby, who argue with me? I
don't have any idea before we get to him. Let
me talk to you about the fight for babies. We
just talked about it. What do we do? How do
we save them? Because the overturning row was great. I'm
glad it happened, but that doesn't change hearts, doesn't change minds.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
How do we change a pro abortion culture? Well, ultrasound.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Ultrasound is the tool that has saved more lives than
anything else, because once a young woman hears that heartbeat,
not a compo sales anymore. She's a mom. She's a mom.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
That's what Preborn does.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
They give free ultrasounds to women who are about to
have abortions, and if Preborn can pull it off, if
they can get them in there and just get them
the ultrasound, the women will choose life almost every time.
Did you know that at twenty eight dollars you give
to preborn, it's not nothing.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
You just bought a life.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Most likely someone will live because of you twenty eight bucks.
But whatever you give them as tax deductor, will you
give them twenty eight thousand?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
For all I care?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Preborn dot com slash Jesse, there.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Is a life you have to save. We'll be back,
all right.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I'm excited about this, a little bit of a side
turn for us because I do some sports from time
to time, but not a bunch.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
But when you have a former.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Round freaking pick on your show, you're going to talk
a little bit of college sports, pro sports joining me now.
David Pollock hosts a wonderful podcast now called Family Goals
and has a book at which we will get to
called The Kid Won't Quit. But I remember watching this
guy commit murder on Saturdays at Georgia, and now he's
joining us now here on I'm right, all right, David,
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let's talk just briefly. We'll get to the NFL and
the NIL and college football and all this stuff like that.
But I want to get to this book because I
really love that people were starting to write children's books
and books in general that promote our values. I've seen
so much garbage raising my sons out there. How do
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you teach a kid, you know, hard work and things
like that. There are finally books like that out there now,
and it blesses me.
Speaker 9 (36:37):
Well, that's great to hear. And that's what we've seen
a little bit. I mean, obviously, I have two kids,
and like, teaching them how to compete and teaching them
perspective is not the easiest thing in the world. And
I think we read a study too going into this,
like sixty percent of kids that play sports quit.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
By the age at thirteen, and that's a lot.
Speaker 9 (36:57):
Man, that's high because football and sports teach you so
much about yourself and discipline and toughness and how to win,
how to work together.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
And so that's.
Speaker 9 (37:07):
Why we wrote it and it's called The Won't Quit Kid,
teaching kids that it's not about like being the star.
It's not about making plays, it's not about home runs
and touchdowns like, it's about every day trying to come
bring your best and be the best version of you.
And guess what, it's gonna be really hard, and it's
gonna hurt, and it's gonna be hot, and you go
have those things throughout your life. So it's kind of
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a cool message of using sport to teach kids that
and for them to do their best and realize that
that's good enough.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
David. My my wife asked me one time where I
got my confidence from.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
And it's funny you just brought that up.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I told her, And I don't know that I'm right
about this so that you would agree, but that there's
not a second way to get confident than by going
through hard things, whether it's your sports or Marine Corps
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
It may be.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
That, at least for dudes. I can't speak for women.
Doesn't matter how many times you tell them you're proud
of them, you love them, all this other stuff. Unless
something hurts, it is difficult. You can't be that confident
that that's where it comes from.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
You agree with that, dude, You gotta fail.
Speaker 9 (38:12):
I mean, if you never failed, that means you've never
pushed yourself to do anything great like that means you've
always taken it where it's easy.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
So yeah, I do.
Speaker 9 (38:20):
Man, It's crazy. Just I have two kids, and my
daughter she was born with confidence plenty plenty of her
daddy's confidence slash arrogance. And then I have a son
who was built just like mommy. And and you know,
it's funny because my biggest goal in life was not
to raise, you know, confident athletes, and my biggest goal
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is to raise great Christian kids that put other people
first and served other people first. And so I didn't
really build confidence. That wasn't the thing I was trying
to do.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
I was trying to get them to learn how to
build up others and be a great teammate.
Speaker 9 (38:53):
And so what I've really learned, man, is I've got
to do a really good job with my son, pouring
into him and building his confidence. And I tell him
all the time, man, like God made you for something great, dude,
Like I watch you play and I just I love it.
And but I don't talk about in the plays he made,
but I just talk about how much I love watching
him compete and watching him play, and just keep reaffirming man, that,
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like God's got an awesome plan for your life and
He's gonna do amazing things. And I've learned as a
parent that you know, not each kid is the same,
and we've got to parent them differently for sure. And
I've definitely learned with my son, man, I got to
pour into that confidence bucket more than I do with
my daughter.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
And I'll tell you there's just no greater time, at
least there was none for me than when my second
son got baptized first, when it had already knocked it
knocked it out. Once the second son did it, I said, God,
you can.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Just take me home now. I'm done.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I'm a happy man. Take me on at forty three.
That was all I needed to see in life.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
That's all that is. That is great perspective.
Speaker 9 (39:53):
And what if we all had that perspective, man, Like,
what if we all let our family from a standpoint
of like I am more conc learn.
Speaker 10 (40:00):
About where they go when they die than I am
about sports about school, like, I think we would offer
so much more grace and we would be so much
of a better representation for them as a man going forward.
Speaker 9 (40:13):
And so yeah, I remember celebrating I baptized my son,
and I remember celebrating. I'm like, listen, this is the
most proud moment I've ever had. Like, I'm not all
that stuff you do everywhere else. It's cool, man, and
that's great, But like the commitment you're making right now
for the rest of your life is something that I'm
so excited to walk out with you. And I'm so
excited that you made it, that you did it, so
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I think you're right, man.
Speaker 7 (40:36):
We got to pour into them.
Speaker 9 (40:37):
We got to realize so many people missing church every
Sunday for sport. I'm like, we got to get this
figured out, man, Like, sport is not that important. Sport
is awesome, it's great, but it can't be everything. And
we see so much of that now, and we got
to get our kids focused on the main thing.
Speaker 7 (40:54):
That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
It's the wont quick kid. I highly recommend people pick
up as both of mine. I'm a happy man, all right.
I have to yell about something, David. I hate the
nil and I hate the stupid college football playoff.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
I hate. Look, I'm an Ohio State fan.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Don't yell at me. I'm an Ohio State fan. I
was born in Ohio. And we lost to Michigan, you know,
last week and for an Ohio Stan and they's supposed
to be devastating, like the end of the world, right,
And I was bummed, But it wasn't the end of
the world because I knew we were getting in anyway
that should have ended our season. But now because of
the stupid playoff, the stakes aren't as high.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I freaking ate it.
Speaker 7 (41:30):
Or are the stakes higher, Jesse?
Speaker 9 (41:33):
I mean we were told, Jesse that this was going
to devalue the regular season.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
Did it devalue the regular season? Or did we have
more team yes, with a chance to crack at the
apple at the end.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Okay, I don't disagree. I don't disagree, but I say
it did devalue the regular season because while I was
bummed after we lost the Michigan, you never want to
lose the Michigan, especially a crappy Michigan team, when you
know you still might be hoisting up the National Championship
title trophy at the end of the year, it's not
as devastating. I guess that's my point. You've taken at
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least some of the stakes out of the regular season.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
That's my complaint.
Speaker 7 (42:10):
I can get down with that.
Speaker 9 (42:11):
But here's the thing, Jesse, and listen, you're an Ohio
State fan and I'm a Georgia guy, so we don't
have to worry about it as much because our teams
are always pretty dang good.
Speaker 7 (42:21):
But here's the thing that's cool. Indiana is in the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (42:25):
SMUs in the playoffs, like Boise State is in the playoffs,
Like that is so cool. Arizona State is in the playoffs.
Those are four teams that never have a chance to
get there. And because of nil, because of these kids
in the transfer portal, the talent goes all over the country.
Now it doesn't go to Ohio State and Georgia and
Alabama because you know what the recruiting pitch for those
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teams used to be.
Speaker 7 (42:47):
Come here.
Speaker 9 (42:48):
I know you'll sit on the bench for your first year,
maybe your first two years, but we will develop you
and put you in the NFL and make you a
lot of money. Now everybody's like, wait a minute, I
can go over there and I can go make a
lot of money.
Speaker 7 (43:00):
I don't have to worry.
Speaker 9 (43:00):
About sitting on the bench at Ohio State or Georgia
or Alabama. So I think parody is here to stay.
I think your one transfer portal team away from Indiana
FSU a year ago. Now, I think you can rebuild
faster than ever and it kind of changes the landscape
and we have more parody than we ever had.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Oh imagine losing a prize player to Indiana gosh, David Pollock,
go pick up his book. Appreciate you very much, sir.
All right, we have light the Mood next. All right,
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it is time.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
To lighten the mood.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
And there's nothing that does my heart well playing lighten
the mood. Videos that bring trauma to people, so without
further ado, enjoyed. And that's why you don't ever let
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Dad dress up as the Grinch, because he's going to
take it too far.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Suitable
What is going on in Syria and what should we
do about that? We will talk about it tonight in general,
in detail. You'll get all bumed up on Syria. We
have Victoria Coach joining us to talk about that. We
have culture war stuff. Can they just get rid of
the fourteenth Amendment? All that and more coming up? And
I'm right, let's talk about Syria, shall we? And let
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me go ahead and get you prepared for what you're
about to see here on I'm right, we're going to
have a bit of a general discussion about foreign policy
and humanitarian aid.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'll be handling that.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
But if you're one of these people dying for details,
you want to know who are the factions, who are
we rooting for, who are rerooting against? Victoria Coach is
going to join us in just a few minutes to
break down details. So we'll give you the thirty thousand
view and we'll give you the.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Up closer personal.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Now discuss First of all, you want to know where
a large percentage of the cops who die, where they die,
how they die. This will come back to Syria and
everything else. But police officers are obviously killed sometimes in
the line of duty. Sadly, and it happens a lot
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at night, pull people over at night. It happens, of course,
of course, it happens in all the scenes you see
in the movies where you're kicking in the door of
a drug dealer. These things happen. But if you know
any cops, most cops will tell you the most dangerous
situation they've ever faced in their careers, and oftentimes the
one that kills cops are domestic disputes.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
All day long, they are catching bank robbers and murderers
and gang bangers. But the thing that kills cops a
large percentage of the time is a domestic dispute.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And why is it? This will come back foreign policies.
Stay with me. Why is that? Why is that? Well,
you are an.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Outsider, and you as a copper called to a situation,
and you're called to a situation where there's a husband,
there's a wife, and there's a problem. You have not
been there for the entire problem, and there's no way,
no matter how much you listen, you can understand the
entire problem. They get the problem and they're fighting. You
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are the outsiders stepping in and you step into a
volatile the most volatile situation because they both reside in
the house, they know the history, they know what happened
that night, and there are emotions flying all over the place,
the most extreme emotions because they know each other so well,
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so they know each other well, they're tearing each other's
hair out. And then you, the outsider, step in to
try to control the situation, and that that is the
guy who gets shot a lot in the line of duty.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It is it is now.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I want you to think about that when it comes
to foreign policy. You see what I just said, it's
just kind of a more modern, more easy to understand
way that the foreign fathers understood foreign fathers founding fathers
understood foreign policy.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You see, it's not.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
That they were not interested in what happened across the globe.
They knew what happened across the globe mattered then and now,
of course it mattered. It always mattered, it will always matter.
It's not that they didn't care if France was squaring
off a thing, and of course they cared. But what
they did was they studied the entire course of human history,
and what they found was it's really really for the
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best if you mind your own business. It's really for
the best if you don't look across the pond and
see some conflict and say to yourself, wow, we should
get involved there. We should definitely try to control things there.
That is a recipe to get you burned. Why would
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you go dive into the middle of somebody else's problem.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Now what I just.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Said makes total sense, I'm sure to you most normal people,
it makes total sense to So why doesn't it make
sense to our politicians, Republican and Democrats?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I should know.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Why why are they so against just minding their own business. Well,
there are a few different reasons, and all of them
are awful. First and foremost, they don't ever have to die,
and their children never have to die. We used to
have foreign policy in this country, and the politicians and
generals and amirals who would carry out that foreign policy,
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either they themselves would be put in harms way or
had been put in harms way, or their children I'm
talking on the front lines. We have Teddy Roosevelt's son
dying in World War Two, on the front lines dying.
But that doesn't happen anymore. It's your kid who has
to die, it's my kid who has to die, their
kids are they're off at Harvard or onto an internship
with Senator Idiot's office.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So that's a big reason.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Another reason is it's hugely, hugely financially beneficial if someone
else has to die and no one I know has
to die, and I get some extra campaign donations out
of this.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
The defense industry, oh love.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
If we get mixed up in this, well that's always
a good thing. Maybe my brother's cousin's uncle needs a job. Hey,
Boeing is hiring Boeing. You want to hook my guy up.
Don't forget I cook things off in Syria. There's a
huge vested financial interest in all this, and.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
For being honest.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Lastly, it makes you sound tough, like a leader and
patriotic to go on adventures outside of your border. And
this is not unique to our country. Everyone understood historically,
politicians understood if your approval ratings are low, raise up
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an army and go fight some foreigners. It makes you
look patriotic, It makes you looks like it look like
a leader. The people of your nation will think higher
of you. Julius Caesar, when he was assassinated, was actually plotting.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
A foreign campaign that was totally.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Unnecessary why it was getting less popular domestically.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Hey, gather up an army, let's go fight somebody.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
And it's really gross when you understand the motivations behind
it all, and when you sit and you think that
people in North Carolina it's freezing right now, some are
still without homes, living in tents. And the President of
the United States of America couldn't wait to run to
the microphone to announce We're going to hand out.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Some aid to Syria with a.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
New constitution, new governess serves all series. This process to
be determined by the Syrian people themselves. In the United
States will do whatever we can to support them, including
through humanitarian relief to help restore Syria after more than
a decade of war and generation to brutality by this
sold family.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
We're going to rebuild Syria for them while Americans are
still suffering, I mean suffering in Hawaii, still from that fire.
You do remember the fire, right He's Palestine, North Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, Virginia,
suffering President of the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Though he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Get to look like a brave foreign adventurer by handing
out some goodies.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
To North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
He's swooping into Syria and rebuild everything look like a
million bucks, of course, and they're going to use a
bunch of words that create emotions inside of us.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Keep this in mind.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
The propaganda war is always coming for you, coming for me.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
ISIS.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I HATEIS you hate ISIS. If you boil down to
what those scumbags did, you can make an argument to
the most evil human beings who ever lived.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And so when they announced that.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
We're dropping air strikes on people, of course ISIS was
brought up.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
We will help stability, insure stability in eastern Syria, protecting
any personnel are personnel against any threats, and will remain
our mission against ISIS. WIST have be maintained, including the
security of detention facilities where ISIS fighters are being held
as prisoners. We're cleared eyed about the fact that ISIS
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will try to take advantage of any vacuum to re
establish its capability and to create a safe haven. We
will not let that happen. In fact, just today, US
Force Is conducted a dozen of precision strikes air strikes
within Syria targeting ISSIS camps and ISIS operatives.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Okay, let's hope that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Let's remember that you also can't believe anything these people say.
They lie about everything all the time, especially when it
comes to confusing foreign conflicts. What's actually going on in Syria?
Who were the fighters?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Whatever?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
But let's take him at his word, which we probably
shouldn't do. The guy who lied about everything, Let's say
it was about isis okay?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Fine?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
But why are we already involved? Why do we always
feel the need to get involved. Every fight should not
be our fight. Every fight cannot be our fight. And
this is not Look, this is not isolated. To Joe Biden,
I was going to read you a long statement from
Lindsey Graham, one of these neocon Republican types, but I'm
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not even gonna bother reading the whole thing. It's just
more confusion. Let's get involved, we have to ramp things up.
Let's get bipartisan, and let's get involved. How long are
we going to do this? How long?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Remember remember George Bush, Remember this.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
My fellow citizens, at this American and coalition forces or
in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq,
to free its people, and to defend the world from
grave danger. I want Americans and all the world to
know that coalition forces will make every effort to spare
in US and civilians from harm. A campaign on the
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harsh terrain of a nation as large as California could
be longer and more difficult than some predict. We have
no ambition in Iraq except to remove a threat and
restore control of that country to its own people.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
How that work? You know what? I changed my mind.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I think I will read you this Lindsey Graham quote
just because it's so long, it's so convoluted. Tell me
if you think the United States government can do even
a fraction of what I'm about to lay out that
they say here without completely mucking the whole thing up
in a million different ways and costing lives and god
knows how much money. Here's what Lindsay Graham had to said.
This sounds very straightforward. I appreciate the air strikes against
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ISIS targets in Syria, but it will not be enough.
We have to ensure that roughly fifty thousand ISIS prisoners
in northeast Syria are being primarily being primarily held by
Kurdish forces are not released. We should not allow the
Kurdish forces who helped us destroy Isis on President Trump's
watch be threatened by Turkey r radical Islamis who've taken
over Syria. Turkey has legitimate concerns regarding different groups that
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reside in northwestern northeastern Syria. But if there's a conflict
between Turkey and Syrian democratic forces or Turkey at tab
oh my gosh, you see what I mean. It's not simple,
it's not straightforward, and we shouldn't be there. And the
morons who run America's foreign policy couldn't possibly pull this
off even if they wanted to. For the first time
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in my adult life, can we just let them have
at it? This is a domestic dispute, yet another one
we don't have to show.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Up at and get involved.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
All that may have made you uncomfort but I am
right if you want more detail, what are the factions,
the forces, the strategies that work. Victoria codes knows all
about this area, all about what's going on, And for
you nerds who need the details, actually I want the
details too.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I'm a nerd too. We're going to go to Victoria
in a moment.
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Speaker 2 (13:07):
We'll be back, all right.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So that was the general American Forum policy talk. But
I know you want some details. What are the factions,
the forces, the history, what should we be doing? And
I'm here to tell you that I'm not the one
you should talk to. Victoria Coach is the one you
should talk to. VP of Foreign Policy at the wonderful
Heritage Foundation. She is fantastic Victoria. This shouldn't be hard
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for you, being as how.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
We've met before.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I want you to imagine I have the mind of
a small child, and I don't know anything about Syria
and the factions and the forces. And should I be cheering,
should I be crying? Where are we going? So I'm
just going to.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Hand the show over to you.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Tell me what is going on and what we should
be doing about it.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Well, Jesse, good to be with you, and I think
in this case we're going to embrace the d we
should be both sharing hand crime.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
On the one hand, we have the horrible Beshier al Assad.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
We've had fifty years of Asad brutal Assad rule in Syria.
All your listeners and viewers need to know is that
at the end, what Asad did in his horrible prison
was turn off all the electricity and the ventilation. So literally,
they're people prisoners, political prisoners, exphyxiating as we speak because
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they can't get into to release them. That's what kind
of people we're dealing with here. But unfortunately, on the
other hand, the so called rebels are not what you
would call freedom fighters. This is not George Washington and
the Founding Fathers by any stress stretch of the imagination.
These folks are alums of both al Qaeda and Isis.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
The leader of them.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Algebt Golani has a ten million dollar Rewards for Justice
price tag on his head, has committed horrendous atrocities, having
been radicalized by both the second end of Fada and
nine to eleven attacks.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
And so really, at this point.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
You know, we have on the one hand, folks like
the Assads who are backed by Iran and Russia. We
have the so called rebels who are backed by Turkey.
None of this is good in any way, and I
think the Israelis have at one hundred percent right. They
are taking additional high ground around their northern border to
be able to keep an eye on these people, because
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just today the militants posted a video in which they
said they were coming first for Jerusalem and then they
were coming for the holy shrines in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
That's do thereafter.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Okay, that's that is such a great place.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
For us to begin. Let's start with the rebels. We'll
come back to Asad because actually I'm fascinated about that.
You mentioned one couple things stuck out to me. That's
al Qaeda and ISIS.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I know, as many people watching those, those two groups
are not exactly best buds. I find that interesting. So
they're what united in Syria, that's one. Two. You mentioned
their leader has a ten million and dollar bounty on
his head. People with that kind of bounty on their
head do not live very long. How long has this
guy been out here with that kind of bounty.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Well, it's it's interesting.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Yes, these these factions don't generally get along. And we
have the new group HTS, which are the descendants of
the old group job At Alnusro, both especially designated terrorist groups.
These tend to be Sunni militant groups and they generally
hate each other. But the one thing they hate more
Jesse is the United States and Israel and increasingly Saudi Arabia,
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and so you know, that's what unites them, and they
sort of have come together here and so you know,
that's that's why this is such such.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
An enormous degree of concern.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Is these folks can become wildly violent and you know,
again unconfirmed, but videos of them harassing Christians today, you know,
it may be just a very short period of time
before you know, they they start committing atrocities of their
own against them minorities in Syria, which means that President Biden,
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who was patting himself on the back, almost got a
krick in his neck yesterday. He was doing it so
enthusiastically about how he had brought peace to Syria that
may look pretty disingenuous in about two days time.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Okay, let's focus on Asad now for a little bit.
You mentioned minority groups in Syria. I know there's a
Christian minority group there.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I know there are others.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
How were they treated under a Sad? And you mentioned
he had a fifty year brutal regime. Talk about that
and what was up with the minorities there?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Now, they were quite brutal as well.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
And that's where we have to not be looking for
any green shoots here because nobody is on the good side.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
And so half as al a Sad.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
But Shira al Asad's father came into power right around
nineteen seventy two, so this has been going on for
about fifty four years, and fifty seventy one seventy two,
so fifty three fifty four years. Math isn't my strong suit,
but you see what I mean, they've had heated chemical
weapons strikes on minorities in their country. Your listeners might
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remember there were two strikes during the Trump administration in
April of seventeen in April of eighteen which were so horrific,
so many children killed that President Trump ordered military retaliation
for this, and seventeen unilaterally and eighteen we had.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
British and French support.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
But this is really absolutely abhorrent behavior. They also pursued
nuclear weapons, which the Israelis took out about twenty years ago.
So this is just a very very bad, bad dictatorship
which has been the hostile and enemy of Israel. They've
attacked Israel many times, fought wars against Israel. They are
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responsible for attacks on American citizens. So absolutely nothing really
redeemable about the Assads.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
So if they hate Israel and they've attacked Israel, and
anyone even begged the familiar with that region knows they
have done, so, why such an opposition to them? Clearly
the opposition was significant and widespread if they were able
to topple it, what's al Keda and Isis's problem with them?
Speaker 7 (19:19):
Now?
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Well, Haita and ISAs don't like them because they are
so called Aloalites. Which is a sect of Islam that
the Sunni extremists like Al Qaeda and Isis consider heretical.
So they want to get rid of them on that
ground so that they're not pure enough in their Islam.
And as I said, the Assad state and power by
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brutally repressing everybody who disagreed with them. So they've been
they've been on the wrong side of that for five
decades now, so a lot of people hate them. And
maybe twelve years ago, at the beginning of the Syrian
Civil War, some of the rebels were not entirely infected
with this. But if you remember, President Obama allowed the
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situation to fester, kept drawing red lines and then not
doing anything when people crossed over them.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
And then in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
We had the spectacle of him saying, oh, Isis is
just al Qaeda JV. And then suddenly Al Isis was
raging across Syria and Iraq, establishing the largest caliphate since
the Middle Ages and beheading American journalists on video, among
other atrocities. And we had to go back into a
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rock at that point to get rid of these people.
And that's who now we have emerging in Syria. So
this has to be watched extremely closely and primarily so
it doesn't spill over into Israel.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Okay, tell me about these Kurdish forces Victoria. I know
they have a bunch of ISIS prisoners from that horrible
fighting before. Are these Kurdish forces? I know Turkey is
not thrilled about them. What's their status? Who are they?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Friends? Enemies? Are they in deep trouble?
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Right now, again, we're going to embrace the and there
there are a number of different kinds of Kurds scattered
across this region. We have the Iraqi Kurds in Kurdistan,
who have been great and good allies to the United States.
You could see a lot better allies than we find
in Baghdad, for example, really good partners. In northeastern Syria,
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you have a range of folks. We have the Syria
Defense Forces the SDF, which have been since the Obama
era our partners in that region. Yes, they have fought
bravely against ISIS, have done some sort of questionable things
of their own, but of course everyone in the region
in this region largely has and as you said, the
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guarding about thirty thousand ISIS militants.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
No one will take these are the worst of the worst.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
They're women and children in this groups, and literally none
of their home countries will take them back they're so radicalized.
And the SDF, with a support of about nine hundred
American troops, are the ones who are guarding them and
keeping this situation more or.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Less under control.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
What complicates this further is President Erdowan of Turkey, of course,
on the northern border of this region, considers pretty much
every Turkic terrorist. There is this PKK group which are
particularly militant against Turkey that he hates most specifically, but
pretty much all Kurds are anathema to Erdowan, And so
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in a way, you could say the Obama era policy
had failure baked in from the outset because like it
or not, Turkey is a fellow member of NATO. Turkey
has the largest military in Europe. Do I agree with
their current leadership, No? And do I agree with what
they're doing now, No, But you know this was always
going to come to a head. Turkey was always going
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to win this battle, and we've chosen to create this
untenable situation, as I said, primarily as the policy of
President Obama. So again, it's extremely complicated and murky and
there really aren't that many white nights here.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
And there certainly aren't. Okay, finally, I swear this is
my last one. What's their problem with Saudi Arabia. You
said they're all Sunni. I don't understand.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Well, there is this sect of radical Islam who consider
the House of Saud the illegitimate keeper of the two Mosques,
the two holiest sites of Islam and Mecca and Medina,
and that they want to dominate those and so they
have also been hostile to our traditional golf partners and allies,
Saudi Arabia UAE, for example Bahrain. Even though they are Sunni,
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they are considered way too moderate for these jihadist extremists,
and so they want to take over these holy sites.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
And remember the third holiest.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Site in Islam is Jerusalem, and so first they want
to come for the you know, for the Mosques, and
then they want to come for Jerusalem because the added
benefit of Jerusalem is they would get to kill a
whole lot of Jews, which is their other favorite pursuit.
So this is an interesting scenario though, because it makes
the case for why a peace deal and a chord
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or a normalization a deal if you will. Between Saudi
Arabia and Israel makes so much sense. They're facing a
common enemy here, which is also the enemy of the
United States.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
You know, it's the same kind of.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Scenario where they're the little Satan and we're the big Satan.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Victoria, thank you so much. That was wonderful. Appreciate it.
I'm so much smarter now. I'm going to take so
much of that information and tell all my friends and
not give Victoria any credit and just act like I'm
a Syrian expert. I highly suggest you do the same now.
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Speaker 1 (25:46):
Let's start catching up on some culture war stuff, because
that's nothing we're ever gonna set aside on this show.
As much as we care about dollars and cents, done
of that matters if we turn into Sodom and Gomorrah,
which we are well on our way. Joining me now,
DC correspondent for The Daily Wire does a great job.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Mary, Margaret Olahan.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Mary, okay, First of all, this Supreme Court hearing with
the child tranny stuff and Tennessee and things like that.
I know you wrote that wonderful book, d trans are
you what kind of a feeling did you get from that?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Are they going to uphold this law? No?
Speaker 6 (26:19):
I don't think well, yes, I think they are.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
What we heard from the justices last week is that
they seem very predisposed to uphold Tennessee's law protecting kids
from these transgender procedures based on everything they were saying.
Of course, we can't totally predict, and we won't have
a decision until off spring or maybe early June, but
it's looking good for Tennessee and for the legislation that
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they enacted here to protect kids.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Mary.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Nationally, everyone has a different perspective on things. You're more
all over this stuff than I am. It feels like
maybe we reached peak tranny at some point in time
here and that now of fish, the tide is pushing
back the other way. I'm sure I didn't put that
as delicately as you would have, but have we reached
peak tranny? H Jesse? You might be right on that one.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
I mean, especially after the twenty twenty four election, we
did this massive story here at Delley Wire about how
the Trump campaign really leaned into the transgender issues, especially
in some of their ads where they pointed out that,
you know, Kamala's for they them, president Trump is for you,
or they pointed out that Kamala supports taxpayer funded transgender
surgeries for illegal immigrants.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Just insane things.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
Like that that the American people listened to and thought,
what that's absurd. And I think at the end of
the day, we know that a lot of people went
to the poll specifically on the trans issues. And voted
Trump into office specifically because of that the twenty twenty
four sleeper issue. So I would argue that the tide
is in ded turning on this topic. I think that
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more and more Americans are just pushing back on this
radical craziness when it comes to men and women's spaces,
when it comes to transgender procedures for kids. And Trump
has seen this, He's leaned into that messaging. His most
effective ad was the one that I just mentioned, the
one highlighting Kammalis extremism, and I think that's very indicative
of where our culture's at.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
But also all these de.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
Transition or lawsuits, the legislation all over the country protecting
kids from these types of things, all of this to
me is a sign that, yes, the tide is turning.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Mary.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Now, none of the information that's come out recently has
been news to you or me or really anybody probably
watching us right now on television. So what is it
about the general public are they just now finding out?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Is that? What it is?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Is it that you and me were in a bubble
gear and everyone watching and the general public just didn't
realize how pervasive.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
This stuff was. Because this has been going on for
a few years now.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
It is true, it has been going on for several years.
But I think part of the problem is that our
legacy media is complicit in all of this. Our legacy
media uses the terminology of the left to obscure what's
actually going on. So, for example, they say gender affirming
care when what they should say is transgender surgeries, hormones
and puberty blockers, even for kids. But they purposefully use
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these euphemisms because these leftists orgs have told them to
help them to promote these types of things, and that
sounds crazy and conspiratorial. But anytime you take a look
at CNN Associated Press and let me know if they're
talking about gender affirming care, because most Americans won't really
know what that story is about because it's so purposefully deceitful.
(29:32):
Whereas if you read the Daily Wire, we call it
what it is. We call it transgender surgeries, hormones and
puberty blockers.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
We're not going to hide any of that.
Speaker 8 (29:39):
We're going to set the truth out there and let
people decide. And I think many conservative outlets have done
this in recent months and it's really helped shine.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
A light on this topic.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
Conservative commentators as well people like you just speaking the truth,
you know, being funny, like you just were about the
topic and helping people understand. This is crazy. This is
not something that people are aligned with, and we got.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
To put a stop to it.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Mary, There's plenty of demonic, evil crap going on when
it comes to this kind of stuff, but I don't
think a lot of people are aware of how intimately
involved big Pharma.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Is in this.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I know in my state of Texas, we just ran
recently had some training activism because of a law here.
Some people did some really good journalism and dugg Ins
wouldn't found out big Farma was funding at all, all
those turbo freaks in the streets with the leather chaps
and crap like that on It was all big pharma money.
It's big Pharma who wants these customers who are going
to need god knows how many pills and therapy for
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the rest of their lives because they chopped their penis off.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Right.
Speaker 8 (30:39):
People don't realize how long term these procedures are when
you think about it. Let's say, let's say your son
wants to become a woman and he starts taking estrogen.
He doesn't just take estrogen for a week. He takes
it for the rest of his life if he's trying
to be a woman for the.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Rest of his life. And that's crazy.
Speaker 8 (30:57):
That's bills upon bills upon bills. That's so much hormones
in his body that should not be there. The same
thing for girls, they're pumping themselves full of testosterone for
the rest of their foreseeable life. So this is bills
for a very long time, and it is a profitable
endeavor for a big pharma. But I think the reckoning
is coming. You know, you look at these d transitioner
(31:18):
lawsuits and you see they're suing the hospitals, they're suing
the medical providers, they're suing the therapists and the teachers
and the doctors. Everybody is going to have their come up.
And so there was a massive lawsuit last week on
a trans doctor who's one of the most high profile ones.
She's considered the gold standard of doctors. She is being
(31:39):
sued for medical negligence because she pushed this child down
this path when she was only fourteen years old. Okay,
that girl for a double miss sectomy.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Oh, that is so freaking unimaginably said, Okay, let's changed
to something else. Again, you should really pick up Mary's
book T d trans if you want to get in
a little bit more bul.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
On this stuff. Abortion.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Of course, the right loves to run away from this
issue now because we feel like we've lost.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
But where are we on it?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Roe versus Way getting overturned was wonderful. This is not
something we can just simply dance away from, though, because
babies are still being massacred by the million.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Where are we at on it?
Speaker 8 (32:19):
Well, Jesse, I always love talking about this topic with
you because you're not afraid to call it like it is.
I think post Dobbs, what we're seeing across the country
is states trying to enact protections to protect babies from
you from abortion. But we've seen so much misinformation, especially
during the election cycle.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Of course, Kamala Harris's campaign.
Speaker 8 (32:39):
Knew that this was their shoe, and the more they
promoted this abortion misinformation, the more likely people were, especially
young women, to vote for Kamala based on abortion. And
so they planted stories all over the country, and they
promoted stories all over the country that spread misinformation such as,
you know, pro life laws are causing women to have
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to miscarry their babies or pro life laws are causing women,
if they do miscarry their babies to not be able
to receive necessary care.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
That's a lie.
Speaker 8 (33:09):
Obviously, in some states like Florida have done a really
good job in combating that misinformation, but unfortunately different places
have not been so effective, and so there are many
confused women. And I think what I've seen from the
pro life movement is efforts to be really clear to
say no, this pro life law protects women. It's here
to protect women, to protect babies. You're not going to
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get denied miscarriage care.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
In fact, you do need that carry.
Speaker 8 (33:34):
You shouldn't be afraid to go to the doctor. So
I think pro lifers are really focusing on that right now,
messaging saying we support the mom, we support the baby,
we want to be there for both of you. And
there's a lot of pushback right now and trying to
get that message across.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Very as always outstanding, we'll come back soon and thank
you for what you do. All right, So we're going
to do something a little bit different here. David Pollock
is going to join us former you know, college football standout.
I remember watching David Pollack play NFLS big sports guys
got to let's talk about some family stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
And I'm also gonna start.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yelling and screaming about this stupid college football playoff.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Everyone disagrees with me on it.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
I'm pitching a fit and I'm going to pitch a
fit to David Pollock about it next and see what
he has to say. Baby, who argue with me? I
don't have any idea before we get to him. Let
me talk to you about the fight for babies. We
just talked about it. What do we do? How do
we save them? Because the overturning row was great. I'm
glad it happened, but that doesn't change hearts, doesn't change minds.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
How do we change a pro abortion culture? Well, ultrasound.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Ultrasound is the tool that has saved more lives than
anything else, because once a young woman hears that heartbeat,
not a compo sales anymore. She's a mom. She's a mom.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
That's what Preborn does.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
They give free ultrasounds to women who are about to
have abortions, and if Preborn can pull it off, if
they can get them in there and just get them
the ultrasound, the women will choose life almost every time.
Did you know that at twenty eight dollars you give
to preborn, it's not nothing.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
You just bought a life.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Most likely someone will live because of you twenty eight bucks.
But whatever you give them as tax deductor, will you
give them twenty eight thousand?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
For all I care?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Preborn dot com slash Jesse, there.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Is a life you have to save. We'll be back,
all right.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I'm excited about this, a little bit of a side
turn for us because I do some sports from time
to time, but not a bunch.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
But when you have a former.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Round freaking pick on your show, you're going to talk
a little bit of college sports, pro sports joining me now.
David Pollock hosts a wonderful podcast now called Family Goals
and has a book at which we will get to
called The Kid Won't Quit. But I remember watching this
guy commit murder on Saturdays at Georgia, and now he's
joining us now here on I'm right, all right, David,
(36:10):
let's talk just briefly. We'll get to the NFL and
the NIL and college football and all this stuff like that.
But I want to get to this book because I
really love that people were starting to write children's books
and books in general that promote our values. I've seen
so much garbage raising my sons out there. How do
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you teach a kid, you know, hard work and things
like that. There are finally books like that out there now,
and it blesses me.
Speaker 9 (36:37):
Well, that's great to hear. And that's what we've seen
a little bit. I mean, obviously, I have two kids,
and like, teaching them how to compete and teaching them
perspective is not the easiest thing in the world. And
I think we read a study too going into this,
like sixty percent of kids that play sports quit.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
By the age at thirteen, and that's a lot.
Speaker 9 (36:57):
Man, that's high because football and sports teach you so
much about yourself and discipline and toughness and how to win,
how to work together.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
And so that's.
Speaker 9 (37:07):
Why we wrote it and it's called The Won't Quit Kid,
teaching kids that it's not about like being the star.
It's not about making plays, it's not about home runs
and touchdowns like, it's about every day trying to come
bring your best and be the best version of you.
And guess what, it's gonna be really hard, and it's
gonna hurt, and it's gonna be hot, and you go
have those things throughout your life. So it's kind of
(37:29):
a cool message of using sport to teach kids that
and for them to do their best and realize that
that's good enough.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
David. My my wife asked me one time where I
got my confidence from.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
And it's funny you just brought that up.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I told her, And I don't know that I'm right
about this so that you would agree, but that there's
not a second way to get confident than by going
through hard things, whether it's your sports or Marine Corps
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
It may be.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
That, at least for dudes. I can't speak for women.
Doesn't matter how many times you tell them you're proud
of them, you love them, all this other stuff. Unless
something hurts, it is difficult. You can't be that confident
that that's where it comes from.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
You agree with that, dude, You gotta fail.
Speaker 9 (38:12):
I mean, if you never failed, that means you've never
pushed yourself to do anything great like that means you've
always taken it where it's easy.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
So yeah, I do.
Speaker 9 (38:20):
Man, It's crazy. Just I have two kids, and my
daughter she was born with confidence plenty plenty of her
daddy's confidence slash arrogance. And then I have a son
who was built just like mommy. And and you know,
it's funny because my biggest goal in life was not
to raise, you know, confident athletes, and my biggest goal
(38:40):
is to raise great Christian kids that put other people
first and served other people first. And so I didn't
really build confidence. That wasn't the thing I was trying
to do.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
I was trying to get them to learn how to
build up others and be a great teammate.
Speaker 9 (38:53):
And so what I've really learned, man, is I've got
to do a really good job with my son, pouring
into him and building his confidence. And I tell him
all the time, man, like God made you for something great, dude,
Like I watch you play and I just I love it.
And but I don't talk about in the plays he made,
but I just talk about how much I love watching
him compete and watching him play, and just keep reaffirming man, that,
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like God's got an awesome plan for your life and
He's gonna do amazing things. And I've learned as a
parent that you know, not each kid is the same,
and we've got to parent them differently for sure. And
I've definitely learned with my son, man, I got to
pour into that confidence bucket more than I do with
my daughter.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
And I'll tell you there's just no greater time, at
least there was none for me than when my second
son got baptized first, when it had already knocked it
knocked it out. Once the second son did it, I said, God,
you can.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Just take me home now. I'm done.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I'm a happy man. Take me on at forty three.
That was all I needed to see in life.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
That's all that is. That is great perspective.
Speaker 9 (39:53):
And what if we all had that perspective, man, Like,
what if we all let our family from a standpoint
of like I am more conc learn.
Speaker 10 (40:00):
About where they go when they die than I am
about sports about school, like, I think we would offer
so much more grace and we would be so much
of a better representation for them as a man going forward.
Speaker 9 (40:13):
And so yeah, I remember celebrating I baptized my son,
and I remember celebrating. I'm like, listen, this is the
most proud moment I've ever had. Like, I'm not all
that stuff you do everywhere else. It's cool, man, and
that's great, But like the commitment you're making right now
for the rest of your life is something that I'm
so excited to walk out with you. And I'm so
excited that you made it, that you did it, so
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I think you're right, man.
Speaker 7 (40:36):
We got to pour into them.
Speaker 9 (40:37):
We got to realize so many people missing church every
Sunday for sport. I'm like, we got to get this
figured out, man, Like, sport is not that important. Sport
is awesome, it's great, but it can't be everything. And
we see so much of that now, and we got
to get our kids focused on the main thing.
Speaker 7 (40:54):
That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
It's the wont quick kid. I highly recommend people pick
up as both of mine. I'm a happy man, all right.
I have to yell about something, David. I hate the
nil and I hate the stupid college football playoff.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
I hate. Look, I'm an Ohio State fan.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Don't yell at me. I'm an Ohio State fan. I
was born in Ohio. And we lost to Michigan, you know,
last week and for an Ohio Stan and they's supposed
to be devastating, like the end of the world, right,
And I was bummed, But it wasn't the end of
the world because I knew we were getting in anyway
that should have ended our season. But now because of
the stupid playoff, the stakes aren't as high.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I freaking ate it.
Speaker 7 (41:30):
Or are the stakes higher, Jesse?
Speaker 9 (41:33):
I mean we were told, Jesse that this was going
to devalue the regular season.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
Did it devalue the regular season? Or did we have
more team yes, with a chance to crack at the
apple at the end.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Okay, I don't disagree. I don't disagree, but I say
it did devalue the regular season because while I was
bummed after we lost the Michigan, you never want to
lose the Michigan, especially a crappy Michigan team, when you
know you still might be hoisting up the National Championship
title trophy at the end of the year, it's not
as devastating. I guess that's my point. You've taken at
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least some of the stakes out of the regular season.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
That's my complaint.
Speaker 7 (42:10):
I can get down with that.
Speaker 9 (42:11):
But here's the thing, Jesse, and listen, you're an Ohio
State fan and I'm a Georgia guy, so we don't
have to worry about it as much because our teams
are always pretty dang good.
Speaker 7 (42:21):
But here's the thing that's cool. Indiana is in the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (42:25):
SMUs in the playoffs, like Boise State is in the playoffs,
Like that is so cool. Arizona State is in the playoffs.
Those are four teams that never have a chance to
get there. And because of nil, because of these kids
in the transfer portal, the talent goes all over the country.
Now it doesn't go to Ohio State and Georgia and
Alabama because you know what the recruiting pitch for those
(42:46):
teams used to be.
Speaker 7 (42:47):
Come here.
Speaker 9 (42:48):
I know you'll sit on the bench for your first year,
maybe your first two years, but we will develop you
and put you in the NFL and make you a
lot of money. Now everybody's like, wait a minute, I
can go over there and I can go make a
lot of money.
Speaker 7 (43:00):
I don't have to worry.
Speaker 9 (43:00):
About sitting on the bench at Ohio State or Georgia
or Alabama. So I think parody is here to stay.
I think your one transfer portal team away from Indiana
FSU a year ago. Now, I think you can rebuild
faster than ever and it kind of changes the landscape
and we have more parody than we ever had.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Oh imagine losing a prize player to Indiana gosh, David Pollock,
go pick up his book. Appreciate you very much, sir.
All right, we have light the Mood next. All right,
(43:43):
it is time.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
To lighten the mood.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
And there's nothing that does my heart well playing lighten
the mood. Videos that bring trauma to people, so without
further ado, enjoyed. And that's why you don't ever let
(44:31):
Dad dress up as the Grinch, because he's going to
take it too far.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
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