December 11, 2024 • 43 mins
Christopher Wray leaks of resigning on or before Trump's inauguration because he doesn't want to be fired. Chuck Grassly sends a statement to FBI Director Wray about 7 years too late. Sean Spicer joins the show to talk Pete Hegseth and Joni Ernst, as well as a Biden and his Syria comments. Continuing the Syria talk and how its connected to other U.S. threats, Stephen Yates joins to break it all down. And one of Trump's nominations getting attention is RFK Jr., Jennifer Galardi explains why we should love the choice.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Christopher Ray looks like he's on the way out. We're
gonna have a little chat about that. We have Chinas
Siria talk, we have domestic talk. What's going on with
Pete Exseth, Joni Earns, Sean Spicer's here, all that more
coming up, and I'm right all right. Before we get
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to the Christopher Ray stuff, which I'm gonna get to
here in just a moment, let's talk about something that
is really, really, really wonderful. I was thinking about this
last night. I was talking about it with my wife.
And we had the Daniel Penny acquittal yesterday, We've had
the Donald Trump election. There have been little story after
little story after little story out there. There's something good happening,
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not just here in America, not just with the White
House or things like that. There's something good in the air.
Don't you feel it? I feel it? And I was
sitting around again, I was having a discussion with her
and I was just kind of working it through my mind.
What is happening? What am I seeing? And here's what
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it is. And this will tie us directly into Christopher
Ray and getting ready to resign. Things like that. We're
watching a contraction by the system, by the communists, by
the evil people out there. A contraction. Here's the best
way I can describe what that means, A contraction. Have
you ever been you know what boxing is. Obviously, probably
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you've seen boxing at some point in time in your life.
And if you watch enough boxing, you'll see something from
time to time. A fighter who's used to punching a lot.
He punches a lot, punches eygh, punches low, left, right
punches a lot. But he goes up against a counter
puncher and keeps getting burnt every time he punches. Every
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time he punches, he throws that left, catches one in
the ribs, throws that right, gets smacked up side of
the head. And what happens is, after enough pain, after
he gets counterpunched enough times, he just stops punching for
a while because it hurts too bad. Now he's gonna
start punching again, and we'll get to that with the
system here in a little bit. But he's going to
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start punching again, but for a while it hurts so
much that he really can't do much but dance around
the ring and block whatever he can block. We had
a long period there. I would say maybe the start
of the Obama era, But we had years and years
and years there where the communists in this country were
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on the offense and they had all of the cultural momentum,
and you saw it everywhere. You saw more radical change
in this country in the last ten fifteen years than
people had seen since the sixties in this country, just
radical change after radical change, and none of them good.
Everything kind of seemed to be going against it. Why
did it always seem that way? We're losing corporate America.
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We can't even can't even watch a decent TV show anymore.
The movies are all, okay, what do we do well?
What happened was the communists, feeling pretty good in the ring,
started punching and landing a lot, and momentum as it
built caused them to keep punching and keep punching. And
then COVID came and then they were really masters of everything.
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They just got to embrace total tyranny. You do this,
you do that, you do this, you do that. And
then Saint George Floyd dies and then they really ramp
it up even more. The animals were in the streets,
I'm going to foot locker. But then something happened and
I don't think it was just one thing. You don't
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ever want to boil it down to just one thing.
Something turned, something changed, and the people of this country,
and really this is global, the people a lot of
a lot of the Western nations started to against it,
started to say, Ah, that's too far. I don't like that.
Wait a minute, you're going too far there. Hold on,
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I don't like that. And we started punching back. And
the Trump election was a big indication of it. That
was a huge, probably the biggest one. But you're starting
to see it everywhere. It seems like the system got
counterpunched a few too many times and they're contracted, and
you should put a smile on your face about it.
(04:27):
Christopher Ray came out last night he's going to be
resigning his post at the FBI. Now. Doesn't take a
genius to figure out why Christopher Ray is resigning at
the FBI because he's about a month away, give or
take from getting fired by Donald Trump. Doesn't want to
stain the disgrace of being fired. And before we get
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into little Christopher Ray's greatest hits, let's make sure we
understand that Christopher Ray resigning losing his post is not
near enough. It is not justice at all. Taking over
the Federal Bureau of Investigation and turning it into the
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Stazi against your political opponents is a crime. Christopher Ray
has committed criminal acts, many of them against the citizens
of this country. A resignation is a good step. One.
Let's go to the highlight tape on Christopher Ray.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
How many illegal FISA queries have occurred under your leadership
of the FBI.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Well, there are reports that have come out with different
numbers about compliance incidents.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
More than a million illegal ones, because that's what the
Inspector General said. The Inspector General said that in the
three point four million of these queries, more than a
million were in error. Do you have any basis to
disagree with that assessment by the Inspector General.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Actually that's a correct characterization of the Inspector General's.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh well, now the Internet that will remind you about
in moments.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Our focus is a malign foreign disinformation, that is, foreign
hostile actors who engage in covert efforts. Mister, risk our
social media platforms, which is something that is not seriously
in dispute.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I have to stop you for time. That's not accurate.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
You need to read this court opinion because you're in
charge of enforcing it. Elvis Chant testified under oath in
charge of this for you. He said fifty percent, he
had a fifty percent success rate and having alleged election
disinformation taken down or censored, that that wasn't just foreign adversary, sir,
that was American citizens.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
How do you answer for that?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, first off, I'm not sure that's a correct characterization's
right out of the opinion. You should reroute what of
his testimony. But what I would say is the FBI
is not in the business of moderating content. As you know,
this is a very active, ongoing investigation and there are
some restrictions on that.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
But we can handle classified information and we fund your department,
and so you need to provide.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
That it's not respectfully, it's not an issue of classification.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
People trusted the FBI more when Jayak or Hoover was
running the place than when you are. And the reason
is because you don't give straight answers. You give answers
that later a court deems aren't true, and then at
the end of the day, you won't criticize an obvious
shakedown when it's directly in front of us, and it
appears as though you're whitewashing the conduct of corrupt people.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Respectfully, Congressman, in your home state of Florida, the number
of people applying to come work for us and devote
their lives working for us is over up over one
hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
We're deeply proud of them, and they deserve better than you.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
That was but a taste. Christopher Ray sent the FBI
after angry school board parents because Merrick Garland told him to.
Christopher Ray set up a bunch of poor schloves for
assassinating or trying to kidnap and assassinate the governor of Michigan,
Gretchen Whitmer. You remember that whole crooked scheme. Christopher Ray
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rated mar Alago. Christopher Ray arrested pastors, pro lifers. Christopher
Ray covered for the BIS at every turn. In fact,
he's the reason that Joe Biden ever won the White
House to begin with. Christopher Ray resigning is not even
close to justice. Christopher Ray resigning to go work on
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this corporate board and that corporate board and bring in
five million dollars a year flying on private jets. The
rest of his life is not justice when you've taken
over the top federal law enforcement arm and you have
used it against your political co opponents and to protect Democrats.
Resignations aren't enough, and that's not what this country needs.
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It's time for people like Christopher Ray and Elvis Chan
and others to go to federal prison. Which brings me
to Chuck Grassley. I am seeing a lot of celebration
over what Chuck Grassley did yesterday. In case you haven't seen,
I have the letter here. I'm not going to read
the whole thing, but you're welcome to it's all available
for free online. This is, as you can see, a
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fairly long letter from a one Chuck grass League. Huh,
ranking member of the Committee on Budget out of a
big deal, right, and he sends a letter. Of course,
he opens it up talking about how seven years ago
I supported you, but now he's lost confidence in Christopher Ray. Okay,
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well that's good. I'm I'm glad you sent that letter, Chuck.
So Christopher Ray was about to be fired, even even
if he didn't resign, Christopher Ray was about to be fired.
He took over the STAZI. He used his power in
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the STAZI to attack the American people for seven years, Chuck,
And for seven years, this letter was nowhere to be found.
Hold on, hold on, let me check the data again. Yep,
December ninth. Wow, look at that. December ninth, December Night's
twenty twenty four, Chuck grass sent a letter. Christopher Ray
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is already resigning. Why now? Where were you when we
needed you? Oh? I know, Chuck, Chuck Grassley sees the
contraction of the system and now he's going to act
like mister a tough guy, gonna hold the FBI and check.
But Chuck, seven years of abuse, this letter was nowhere.
(10:27):
Where were you? I'm tired of this man. I'm tired
of the followers we have who are our elected politicians.
I'm tired of them always coming in a day late
and a dollar short. The school board moms didn't need
a letter on December ninth to twenty twenty four, Chuck.
They needed your help when it mattered. The pro lifers
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being sent to federal prison didn't need a letter on
December ninth to twenty twenty four, Chuck. They needed you
when it mattered. Donald Trump his family had FBI agents
rifling through his wife's underwear drawer. They didn't need a
letter on December to December ninth, twenty twenty four. They
needed you back when it mattered and back when it mattered, Chuck,
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you were nowhere to be seen. Pathetic. All that may
have made you uncomfortable, but I am right. Sean Spicer
is gonna join us in a moment speaking of pathetic
Pete Hegseth. Is he gonna get through the Senate or
are these losers like Joni Ern's gonna hold things up.
We'll talk to Sean about that in just the moment.
Before we talked to Sean about that. Let me talk
(11:35):
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Sleep's my favorite thing in the world. Well that's not true.
It's one of my favorite things in the world. I
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even those days where days maybe been stressful. I had
a little extra coffee. Not still sleep like a baby
because I have dream powder from Beam. And it's not
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What's all the scuttle butt on Capitol Hill? Which one
of these dominations is getting through? Which one isn't? How
screwed up is Siria right now? I don't know anything
answer to any of these questions, but I bet Sean does.
Joining me now the host of the Great Sean Spicer's
Shoe my friend Sean Spicer. Okay, Sean, I love, actually
love most of Trump's nominees. Some of them are just
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absolutely wretched, like that surge in general. But we don't
have to get into that. But the really important ones,
like Pete hegg Seth, they need to get through. We
have to have these reforms. Who's gonna make it and
who's not? John? I don't so far.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I don't see anybody not getting through. I say that
because the look justin just to put this in context here,
viewers understand this. When Biden put forward his cabinet, not
a single Democrat voted against a single nominee, not one.
The only thing that's keeping any of these nominees back
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are other Republicans. Remember, we have a fifty three seat majority.
We shouldn't even be having this discussion. The president's putting
forward very qualified people to execute his agenda and barring
anything that's you know, revelationary or you know coming, so
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like there's no reason he shouldn't get it. And so
they gave all of these morons in the Biden cabinet
their spot who were not qualified. Excuse me, I don't
know why we're even having these conversations among the Republican
conference the people that President Trump award because they are
a bunch of bandies.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I mean we are because look at look at Pete.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Hegseath, two Bronze Stars, three tours, getmo Afghanistan, Iraq, educated
at Princeton and Harvard. I mean maybe that we should
hold against him. Frankly, the only thing I have against
is Pete is that he went into the army. I mean,
he's clearly you know, could have joined you and I
as but I just, I mean, honestly, like the notion
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that he's not qualified is the is something that someone
in Washington says, I get that he actually might want
to have the Pentagon pass an audit for the first
time in eight years. I get that he might challenge
the status quo. I get that he might focus on
readiness and war fighting and get away from DEI and.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
All that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
But the bottom line is, I mean, this is insane,
the idea that we're questioning the qualifications of these guys,
because the dirty little secret is it's not a qualification.
It's about whether or not they buy into a woke ideology.
As long as that's your standard, the media and the
left will give you a pass.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I mean I brought this up before Jesse.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Dennis McDonald, the current Secretary of Veterans Affairs, never served
in the military, never worked with a veteran service organization.
He never, as far as I know, gave out mortgages
or healthcare. The two chop services.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Of the VA.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Pete Boodagic was mayor of South in Indiana that had
a total of sixty six buses, and yet these people
were somehow qualified to run these departments.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Give me a break, okay, Sean, So walk me through
the thinking when you have a Jony Ernst type because
this is what I've said, and you can speak to
the accuracy or not that the American people wanted reforms,
they wanted Trump style reforms. They want the Trump agenda
very clearly, the country spoke loudly. But a lot of Republicans,
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especially the long established ones in the United States Senate,
see themselves as protectors of the system, not reformers, and
so any thought of a reformer, they're actually going to
join the other team. Am I wrong?
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Yeah, there's something to that that they're afraid of the
status quo, like I get the current secretary of this
or that gives me and make sure that my state
gets taken care of for whatever commitments that I've gotten
out of them during their confirmation. But the larger point
is this, the President Trump got elected.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
It's his agenda, not theirs.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
And so I'm willing to give some of these other
people that I might not wholeheartedly agree with the past
as long as they're agreeing and understanding that they're buying
into enacting President Trump's agenda, not their own right. So
that's the other thing that these senators have to understand
that it's not so and so's agenda or so and
so's policies that matter. It's whether or not President Trump
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has a problem, and that's what they should be asking
questions about. It is what does President Trump want to
do about this? What does President Trump think about this?
Because in the case of Pete Hegseth, he's made it
very clear that his number one job is to execute
the America First policy and keep our country safe.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
That's it, full stop. Sean, walk me through why Trump
has improved so drastically personnel wise. We don't have to
rehash the old stuff. You and I've had this conversation many, many,
many times before. It's like a different person. It's like
a different organization. It's just winner after winner after winner again,
a couple I may not like, but it's very clearly
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a professional operation of people who support his agenda.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Who do we have to think for that? We have
him to think for it. I mean, look, I admit
you look back on twenty sixteen. He had never served
in an office before. He didn't have a cadre of folks.
He wasn't a former governor or senator that could call
this team into action. But to answer your question, fundamentally,
it's sort of like when a sports team plays another
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team for the second time, and they've seen the other
team's players in the matchups, and they go, Okay, we
know that when so and so goes this way, we
go that way. We know their vulnerabilities, we know their strengths.
And Trump now knows these are the three things. He
knows the people, the policies, and the processes to get
things done. And that's the big difference this time. I've
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said this before, Jesse. He's most administrations take you know,
three four months to get up to speed. He's gonna
need about three seconds because they know the right people.
And it's not just the people that are getting brought in,
it's the people that aren't getting brought in. So you're
not bringing in an amurosa and wondering why things aren't
working right. Trump this time knows I need this person
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to do this job, to enact this policy.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Sean Syria. Actually I could expand this way beyond Syria,
but Syria, Ukraine, other parts of the world. It's very
obvious to anyone paying attention that the current administration, the
Biden administration, if we're still calling it, that they're trying
to get America as locked into certain places as they
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possibly can before Donald Trump can get in there and
actually try to fix things. How successful are they going
to be? He can only do what he can do.
He's not a god.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Well to your first point, I think we should just
call it the administration because I'm really not sure who's
running things the administration, and I think that they're going
to try to commit the US to certain things, but
I don't think they're going to be successful. I really don't.
I think that Trump will undo it. You know, he again,
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he gets back to four years wiser. They can't hide
things like they did last time because he now knows
exactly where to look and to how to how to
start on the right foot. So unlike last time where
there were some things that there's a learning curve, this
time he comes in day one ready to go, and
so any kind of shenanigans like that are going to
get undone as quick as they were put in.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Jem. Thank you, my brother. I appreciate you. All right,
talk to some serious stuff with Stephen Yates. That'll get spicy.
What's going on over there Before we get to him.
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talking about it now, and it's one of those areas
that people get extremely confused on. So we're going to
bring experts into this show to make sure we don't
sound stupid at parties when we're talking to friends and family.
And there's nobody better at making us not sound stupid
than Stephen Yates, national security expert with the Heritage Foundation. Stephen,
I don't want to sound stupid at a party. Asad
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was a bad guy, but the rebels are bad guys.
Who am I supposed to be rooting for? Here? What
talk to us about Syria?
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Well, Jesse, you're not wrong about this being actually pretty
complicated and we can get pretty confusing.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Also not wrong.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
It'sid bad guy pretty much the dictionary definition there. Pictures
should be right there. And I think people, if maybe
they scratch their heads a little bit, might remember this
thing that we called the Arab Spring not that long ago,
where there were a lot of confusing situations where bad
leaders might be getting toppled, and there was an aftermath.
One in particular comes to mind, and that was Libya
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where Momar Kadafi obviously truly bad guy, and there was
an effort made by the US government among others to
push him out, but there was a kind of chaos
and really hard to read the room about who are
we dealing with the aftermath?
Speaker 7 (22:21):
I think there's a bit of that playing out in Syria.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Now we get it that Asad was bad and probably
better for the world that someone like him moves from
the stage, but there's a lot of work to be
done about where things go from here in Syria. And
the one thing that seems very clear is the president
elect that's going to be inaugurated in January doesn't want
the United States involved in moving coalitions, drafting constitutions and
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trying to tell them how to govern. And that's probably
a good starting point in terms of lessons we should
have learned from Arab spring.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Steved I'm confused why it's so hard for us to
accept some of these lessons. I understand it's the United
States of America. We have a leadership role, and I
understand that people just by their nature want to fix things,
want to get involved there. But we keep removing these
guys because they're But we did it with Saddam, you know,
Saddam was a world class piece of crap. You mentioned
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Kadafi now Asad. Certainly not going to applaud or cheer
for any of these men. But there are some areas
that are just going to be governed by bad guys,
are there not?
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Well, Ultimately, the people that live there have to be
the ones that are in charge of who they're governed by.
Sometimes that's not fair. My grandfather told me life isn't fair,
and so far I've discovered he was telling the truth.
But these there are several parts of the world, and
sometimes even the United States we get the government we deserve,
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but it's just the case that there are limits to
what we can and should do. That if we wanted
to occupy and run these parts of the world as colonies,
that is a model that was trying in the past.
I don't think it's what the American people want or
people in these regions want. So you have to figure out,
so what are you going to do to help allies
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in that region that are closer to the action, that
have more at stake, help them do what they think
is most advisable in having a stable partner and neighbor
that's on their border. And I think the United States
can play a role in convening those conversations. But we
should be supporting cast We should not be the lead
in these kinds of things. I think that's the adjustment
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we've been living through since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Why do we ever get involved in a place like
Syria to begin with? I mean, it's not hard to
look at a place like Saudi Arabia and figure out
why we would get involved, you know, Israel, something like that.
I understand there are all kinds of debates to be had,
but Syria is an odd place to get involved. Why
are we involved.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Well, sometimes we get involved because we think we can
make a difference in a particular way. And that could
just be people who are the brilliant memo writers of
the world, who think they've come up with a new
strategy of the universe. And if your organizing theory is
that you want to contain global jihadism, and there's jihadism
breaking out in Syria, maybe there's something we can and
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should do to help contain it or defeat it there.
And maybe there's pros and cons to that. But we
live in an era where we have a multitude of
interest pulling us in a lot of different directions. We
have the questions about the role of Russia and China
and Iran generally that could arguably be bigger fish to fry.
I think in some ways the broader Middle East is
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safer now because the State of Israel ignored the Biden
foreign policy and went its own way together sometimes with
its neighbors, and took decisive action. That's basically the model
of where we need to go. I think it's our
missionary impulse, which could be admirable in some ways, that
gets us to think we need to be the ones
jumping in and doing these things. But I think that
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this is a treacherous devil's playground.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Particularly speaking of treacherous Steven. How are we supposed to
handle the Kurdish issue in this area? They sit there
right next to Turkey. Turkey obviously doesn't want them, hates
their guts this new regime. They're not going to be
big fans. The Kurds are sitting on thirty to fifty
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thousand ISIS fighters, depending on who you happen to talk
to at the time. We can't allow thirty to fifty
thousand Isis fighters to go back to carrying Ak forty
sevens and butchering babies. How do we handle this?
Speaker 6 (26:34):
It's a really good question. I don't have a perfect
answer to that. This is one of those legacy issues
when you randomly draw lines in sand that don't accurately
capture where civilizations are, but just where military powers decide
to draw them in a moment in history, and the
Kurds are divided across different sovereign boundaries. The ethnic group
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of the Kurds does sit on top of some substantial recas,
so they have funding and they have power that comes
with that. But this has been an unstable relationship with
multiple neighbors for a long time. I don't think America's
got the secret sauce to solve that. But my point
of view is when these kinds of activities rise to
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a level that it really can cross a profound American
national interest, we should act decisively. That's kind of what
Donald Trump did when he launched cruise missiles into Syria,
killing some Russians at a time. But he didn't invade
and occupy the country, but he would use our weight
when we needed to make a move. I think that's
what we should have done with these leaders.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
I know people don't want to talk about taking.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Leaders out, but it would have been a lot cheaper
and more effective if we had a problem with a
sod Or Saying or others, if we supported some move
to eliminate those leaders, and if the bad ones come
in afterwards, well we'll deal with them if we have to.
But it's much better than trying to occupy and run
these countries. So we just have to I think, be
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a little bit more cautious, maybe a little more ruthless
in bursts to push the direction. But ultimately it's the
neighborhood that has to solve where this goes.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Stephen, what's the danger in Syria? Now? I realize there's
all kinds of danger for the people there, That's not
what I'm talking about. I'm we're talking about globally for us.
What is something we need to be watching out for
where we say, oh uh oh, that might not be
good for us.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Well, I think if we see the amassing of capabilities
where another terrible strike on Israel were to take place,
or some other movement that would be able to reach
beyond the borders of Syria. There have been things, I
know it's a source subject with Iraq, things still in memory,
but there are problems with chemical biological weapons that have
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been moved into that theater. So seeing the sort of
travesty of a decade plus of war and that material
getting moved places used in inappropriate ways would be something
to deeply, deeply watch for.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
They've already had a.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
Tremendous flow of refugees go out that we're destabilizing at
a time. I think a big question now is with
a change in leadership, do how many of those refugees
go back, all those that went across the land bridge
into Europe and elsewhere, do they go back to Syria
and try to build a better future. As the optimists
might say, these are the kind of the variables that
(29:25):
I would watch for. But right now it doesn't look
like Syria is a transnational, trans regional risk.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
If we continue to bolster our.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Allies who have a lot of capability to bring to
bear there.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
How powerful of a military are we talking about with
this victorious rebel group, this al kaeda Isis alliance. I
don't have a good gauge on what they can do
and what they can't do. Clearly they're capable enough regionally
to oust Assad, which says they can do something, But
can they take on Israel?
Speaker 6 (30:01):
Well, this is where if you are a constructive power,
it takes more time, money and material to do good
things than it does to do bad things. I mean, really,
at low tech and low cost, they can do awful
things to people, whether they're in Israel or elsewhere. And
that's just the way. Another way that life is unfair
when it comes to militaries and bad actors in the world.
(30:24):
They clearly are capable enough to do that. But our
response should be if Israel would like to buy more
capabilities to bolster their deterrent, and if other responsible allies
in the region, maybe the Abraham Accords coalition of countries
wanted more material, we should sell it to them. They
have the money to buy it, and they could do
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more to balance and deter in the region, whether it's
against Iran until it changes its form of government someday,
or just generally against their proxies in the region. I
think that's the safest way to go. Europe should be
doing more with Turkey on the other flank. They're a
NATO ally, but really Europe should be doing more to
bolster some sense of stability and responsibility there.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
What about Russia? Finally, I want to ask about Russia.
They obviously want that warm water port. I'm assuming they've
already lost it or they're going to lose it. I
don't assume they're just going to wash their hands of
this whole region, right.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
I don't think they'll wash their hands of the region,
and I think they're pretty comfortable doing deals with the
devils that are wherever they may find them, and so
while there's been a change of caste, they may be
out temporarily, but I would expect them to seek to
use their influence. I mean, really, for Russia, I think
the biggest variable in the equation is Trump two point
zero and that bladdermir Putin may have bigger fish to
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fry than access to a port through Syria and the
proxy activity that's been carried through that avenue of opportunity
that he's had. I think once we get a clearer
sense of where Trumps talks with Putin and the future
of the Russia Ukraine situation are going, we'll have a
(32:09):
better read on where things filter into the broader Middle East.
I think President Trump is going to be really strong
on the alliance with Israel, and it's going to be
really strong with the Abraham Accortz countries, and I think
that goes a long way to shaping the space that
Russia would try to engage.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Stephen, thank you so much, as always, that was dynamite.
Appreciate it all. Right, what's going on with RFK Junior?
What does he believe? We'll talk to Jennifer Glardi about
that in a moment before we talked to Jennifer. Let
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all right. What's up with this? RFK junior pick? What
(33:52):
do you know about RFK Junior. I have had the
experience of having heard him speak several times in person,
and I'll always be a skeptic of new arrivals. But
the things he says about our food, about our medical industry,
about the pharmaceutical industry in this country, they're pretty powerful.
And this is not some dummy who doesn't know what
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he's talking about. He's clearly very well researched. But I
bet Jennifer Glardi knows a bit more about him than
I do. Joining me now, Culture Health and Policy writer,
my friend Jennifer Glardi. Okay, Jennifer Rfka Junior. Is he
just some seventy year old chiseled quack or is this
guy know what he's talking about?
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Well, the proof is always in the pudding, right. You
look at this guy and he's seventy, and I'm like, guy,
he's pretty hot for seventy. I mean, you know, I'd
rather have him than Rachel Levine, a man who thinks
she's a woman. You know, it's in charge of our
health and in charge of our health policy. So that's
one thing. I mean, that's a step in the right direction.
(34:52):
You didn't have to jump over a very high bar there,
but I listen. I understand the concerns when it comes
to alternative therapies maybe and what RFKJ is selling and
non Western medical practices. It's a little bit of a
wild wild West out there. It's not regulated. There are
quite a few quacks, and he may come across as
that to some people. You've got Joe Rogan's of the
(35:15):
world espousing psychedelics, which I'm highly doubtful of, the Andrew
Huberman's of the world talking about some crazy stuff to
make sure all the Hubert Dads live until they're one
hundred and thirty years old.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
And you know, people are like, this is nuts. So
I understand that.
Speaker 8 (35:29):
Skepticism, and that's also taken out of context with people
who don't understand this like comprehensive, holistic landscape of health
and just kind of attack everything with the same tool.
And I've been in this arena for almost two decades
and I still wish there was someone there that would
just tell me what to do and what I should.
Speaker 7 (35:47):
And shouldn't eat.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
So but there's some things he's nailing, which are the
additives in our food. There are definitely things we could
be doing better with our food. Supply, we can get
the red forty out of food. We can follow better
agricultural practices, We can definitely get the subsidies.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
Out of agriculture.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
The crops such as sugar, corn, wheat, all of these
were heavily subsidized by the government, which.
Speaker 7 (36:13):
Kind of caused this explosion. And junk food.
Speaker 8 (36:17):
They had to put that corn somewhere, so they made
corn syrup, these seed oils and things.
Speaker 7 (36:23):
That were never in foods before.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
My friend sent me an Instagram post today that put
side by side ice cream in probably the seventies and
then ice cream now the same brand, and ice cream
back then was cream, sugar, milk, and vanilla, whatever kind
of flavoring you want. Now it's a list of fifty ingredients.
So there's something going on there to look at. And
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I think RFK has even if he didn't get this appointment,
just the awareness he's brought to this is really important.
So unfortunately, the overextension of government did start this problem
with kind of creating these junk foods and this addiction
to junk food that we now have which.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
Causes all sorts of sickness.
Speaker 8 (37:07):
Just obesity is the number one thing, but you can't
necessarily solve the problem with the same thing that created it, right,
So more government regulation. I think this is where I'm
a little cautious with RFKJ. I don't know that more
government regulation is the solution. What I'd like to see
is deregulation. Get the government out of agriculture, get the
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subsidies out, return power to the people. That's what this
whole administration is about, right, Get government out of the way,
so then we have the opportunity to flourish. And I
think there has to be an appetite for health. People
have to now demand health, and I think that's what
this is about, and the MAHA movement's about, is that
we're now demanding health and then we actually have to
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follow through.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
I think that's true for the whole Trump presidency.
Speaker 8 (37:53):
We've now been unburdened by what has been so to speak,
you know Trump Now, I know I felt the lighter
after the last time we talked, which was the night
of the election.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
I woke up I was so excited.
Speaker 8 (38:04):
But now we actually have to do the work, and
people are going to have to do the work to
invest in their own health.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Jennifer, what do you think about that killer of the
United Healthcare guy being Italian.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
Listen, now you know that's kind of the way it goes.
Ask the Italian.
Speaker 8 (38:23):
It's a that's a stereotype.
Speaker 7 (38:26):
But this is interesting because you mentioned the healthcare.
Speaker 8 (38:29):
This guy's obviously a healthcare ceo, right, And the manifesto
from this killer now we know more he's really upset
that the healthcare system is not properly addressing people. But
it's you've got this bohemoth that has everything to do
with keeping people sick than flourishing health, and you're going
to get frustrations in that. I think the timing was
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completely ill timed to these people who are applauding, you know,
this this maniac who killed the CEO of the healthcare company.
But we do need to do something about the system
because right now it's just this never ending circle of
pharmaceuticals diagnosis, more pharmaceutical side effects, more pharmaceuticals to treat those.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
So you know, that's my take.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Plus he was Italian. All right, Let's go back to
RFK Junior, and you mentioned, you know, all the quackery
that's out there. You're much more in tune with, I
don't know, the healing crystals and chocolate weird o Indian stuff.
I don't even know what all this stuff is. How
much of this stuff is he all about? Is he is?
Look again, you get an internet caricature of somebody is
(39:38):
not necessarily true. Is this a guy who rejects all
traditional medicine? What is he? No?
Speaker 7 (39:44):
I don't think so.
Speaker 8 (39:45):
And I think that's where the media gets it wrong.
And of course they're going to do that, just like
they're I mean, they're going to crush him if they're
a crushing pete hegsett. They're going to crush this guy
in his personal life. But you know, he's a disruptor.
He's a disruptor of the system, just like peak head
Seth will be. And just like Trump kind of had promised,
but he's not saying abolish vaccinations.
Speaker 7 (40:06):
We need to do more research, just like take ozempic.
Speaker 8 (40:10):
There are no long term studies about ozempic, and now
it's being pushed through kind of medic here to be
covered by Medicare and governmental agencies. So I just think
there needs to be an honest examination of the agencies,
how they work together. And you pull on the string
of this and you also get to education. How are
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we educating our kids about health instead of treating them
like these little robots that need to.
Speaker 7 (40:39):
Learn math and science, which they do.
Speaker 8 (40:40):
They need to learn how to read and write, but
they also need how to be need to know how
to be.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
Good human beings. I think I don't even know if
you can say this anymore. Home ech? Can you bring that?
Can we say home ech?
Speaker 8 (40:50):
I'm not sure what we would call it in politically
correct language, but we need to bring homech back into
the curriculum. Obviously physical education back into the curriculum.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
These kids.
Speaker 8 (40:59):
You put a bull, a fourteen year old boy in
a seat for six hours a day, of course he's
gonna go crazy. That kid needs to punch something, throw something,
run something out. You know, we're not treating children, and
we're not treating people as kind of human beings. We're
treating them as these autonomous little soldiers.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Yeah, we do need to bring homech back. That was
where all the chicks were. I loved homeck when I
was in high school. Okay, so let's let's talk about
these dies. Like you mentioned red dye forty or whatever
this weird crap is, but it didn't used to be there.
So how is that? How that how does that come
from regulation? I want you to explain to me who
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decided to start putting this die crap in my twinkies.
Speaker 8 (41:44):
I mean, there's all sorts of conspiracy theories out there.
What it was that it came from. I believe something
that was manufactured for weapons and then they needed to
do something with it, and they could figure it out.
They could turn it into a food dye and sell
it and put it into foods to make it more
or to make it more appealing to children. It really
does that. That bright dye is not normal, so that's
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a marketing thing.
Speaker 7 (42:08):
Again.
Speaker 8 (42:08):
I don't like to comment on the kind of conspiracy
theories about this came from the Department of Defense, and
you know, I don't know about that.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
That's not my area of expertise.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
But I can tell you marketing wise, it was used
definitely to make these foods more appealing a lot of
times to children.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Kids are dumb too, We'll believe that, Jennifer. Thank you
so much. I appreciate it very much. We have like
to move next. All right, it is time to lighten
the mood, and you know it is the Christmas season
(42:52):
and efficiency is key when it comes to the Christmas season.
You learn this as a dude and well enjoy, Oh
my here no more then talking abound before. Yeah, that's greatness.
(43:32):
I'll see them
Christopher Ray looks like he's on the way out. We're
gonna have a little chat about that. We have Chinas
Siria talk, we have domestic talk. What's going on with
Pete Exseth, Joni Earns, Sean Spicer's here, all that more
coming up, and I'm right all right. Before we get
(00:26):
to the Christopher Ray stuff, which I'm gonna get to
here in just a moment, let's talk about something that
is really, really, really wonderful. I was thinking about this
last night. I was talking about it with my wife.
And we had the Daniel Penny acquittal yesterday, We've had
the Donald Trump election. There have been little story after
little story after little story out there. There's something good happening,
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not just here in America, not just with the White
House or things like that. There's something good in the air.
Don't you feel it? I feel it? And I was
sitting around again, I was having a discussion with her
and I was just kind of working it through my mind.
What is happening? What am I seeing? And here's what
(01:10):
it is. And this will tie us directly into Christopher
Ray and getting ready to resign. Things like that. We're
watching a contraction by the system, by the communists, by
the evil people out there. A contraction. Here's the best
way I can describe what that means, A contraction. Have
you ever been you know what boxing is. Obviously, probably
(01:32):
you've seen boxing at some point in time in your life.
And if you watch enough boxing, you'll see something from
time to time. A fighter who's used to punching a lot.
He punches a lot, punches eygh, punches low, left, right
punches a lot. But he goes up against a counter
puncher and keeps getting burnt every time he punches. Every
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time he punches, he throws that left, catches one in
the ribs, throws that right, gets smacked up side of
the head. And what happens is, after enough pain, after
he gets counterpunched enough times, he just stops punching for
a while because it hurts too bad. Now he's gonna
start punching again, and we'll get to that with the
system here in a little bit. But he's going to
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start punching again, but for a while it hurts so
much that he really can't do much but dance around
the ring and block whatever he can block. We had
a long period there. I would say maybe the start
of the Obama era, But we had years and years
and years there where the communists in this country were
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on the offense and they had all of the cultural momentum,
and you saw it everywhere. You saw more radical change
in this country in the last ten fifteen years than
people had seen since the sixties in this country, just
radical change after radical change, and none of them good.
Everything kind of seemed to be going against it. Why
did it always seem that way? We're losing corporate America.
(03:02):
We can't even can't even watch a decent TV show anymore.
The movies are all, okay, what do we do well?
What happened was the communists, feeling pretty good in the ring,
started punching and landing a lot, and momentum as it
built caused them to keep punching and keep punching. And
then COVID came and then they were really masters of everything.
(03:25):
They just got to embrace total tyranny. You do this,
you do that, you do this, you do that. And
then Saint George Floyd dies and then they really ramp
it up even more. The animals were in the streets,
I'm going to foot locker. But then something happened and
I don't think it was just one thing. You don't
(03:46):
ever want to boil it down to just one thing.
Something turned, something changed, and the people of this country,
and really this is global, the people a lot of
a lot of the Western nations started to against it,
started to say, Ah, that's too far. I don't like that.
Wait a minute, you're going too far there. Hold on,
(04:07):
I don't like that. And we started punching back. And
the Trump election was a big indication of it. That
was a huge, probably the biggest one. But you're starting
to see it everywhere. It seems like the system got
counterpunched a few too many times and they're contracted, and
you should put a smile on your face about it.
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Christopher Ray came out last night he's going to be
resigning his post at the FBI. Now. Doesn't take a
genius to figure out why Christopher Ray is resigning at
the FBI because he's about a month away, give or
take from getting fired by Donald Trump. Doesn't want to
stain the disgrace of being fired. And before we get
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into little Christopher Ray's greatest hits, let's make sure we
understand that Christopher Ray resigning losing his post is not
near enough. It is not justice at all. Taking over
the Federal Bureau of Investigation and turning it into the
(05:09):
Stazi against your political opponents is a crime. Christopher Ray
has committed criminal acts, many of them against the citizens
of this country. A resignation is a good step. One.
Let's go to the highlight tape on Christopher Ray.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
How many illegal FISA queries have occurred under your leadership
of the FBI.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Well, there are reports that have come out with different
numbers about compliance incidents.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
More than a million illegal ones, because that's what the
Inspector General said. The Inspector General said that in the
three point four million of these queries, more than a
million were in error. Do you have any basis to
disagree with that assessment by the Inspector General.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Actually that's a correct characterization of the Inspector General's.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh well, now the Internet that will remind you about
in moments.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Our focus is a malign foreign disinformation, that is, foreign
hostile actors who engage in covert efforts. Mister, risk our
social media platforms, which is something that is not seriously
in dispute.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I have to stop you for time. That's not accurate.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
You need to read this court opinion because you're in
charge of enforcing it. Elvis Chant testified under oath in
charge of this for you. He said fifty percent, he
had a fifty percent success rate and having alleged election
disinformation taken down or censored, that that wasn't just foreign adversary, sir,
that was American citizens.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
How do you answer for that?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, first off, I'm not sure that's a correct characterization's
right out of the opinion. You should reroute what of
his testimony. But what I would say is the FBI
is not in the business of moderating content. As you know,
this is a very active, ongoing investigation and there are
some restrictions on that.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
But we can handle classified information and we fund your department,
and so you need to provide.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
That it's not respectfully, it's not an issue of classification.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
People trusted the FBI more when Jayak or Hoover was
running the place than when you are. And the reason
is because you don't give straight answers. You give answers
that later a court deems aren't true, and then at
the end of the day, you won't criticize an obvious
shakedown when it's directly in front of us, and it
appears as though you're whitewashing the conduct of corrupt people.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Respectfully, Congressman, in your home state of Florida, the number
of people applying to come work for us and devote
their lives working for us is over up over one
hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
We're deeply proud of them, and they deserve better than you.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
That was but a taste. Christopher Ray sent the FBI
after angry school board parents because Merrick Garland told him to.
Christopher Ray set up a bunch of poor schloves for
assassinating or trying to kidnap and assassinate the governor of Michigan,
Gretchen Whitmer. You remember that whole crooked scheme. Christopher Ray
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rated mar Alago. Christopher Ray arrested pastors, pro lifers. Christopher
Ray covered for the BIS at every turn. In fact,
he's the reason that Joe Biden ever won the White
House to begin with. Christopher Ray resigning is not even
close to justice. Christopher Ray resigning to go work on
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this corporate board and that corporate board and bring in
five million dollars a year flying on private jets. The
rest of his life is not justice when you've taken
over the top federal law enforcement arm and you have
used it against your political co opponents and to protect Democrats.
Resignations aren't enough, and that's not what this country needs.
(08:36):
It's time for people like Christopher Ray and Elvis Chan
and others to go to federal prison. Which brings me
to Chuck Grassley. I am seeing a lot of celebration
over what Chuck Grassley did yesterday. In case you haven't seen,
I have the letter here. I'm not going to read
the whole thing, but you're welcome to it's all available
for free online. This is, as you can see, a
(08:59):
fairly long letter from a one Chuck grass League. Huh,
ranking member of the Committee on Budget out of a
big deal, right, and he sends a letter. Of course,
he opens it up talking about how seven years ago
I supported you, but now he's lost confidence in Christopher Ray. Okay,
(09:20):
well that's good. I'm I'm glad you sent that letter, Chuck.
So Christopher Ray was about to be fired, even even
if he didn't resign, Christopher Ray was about to be fired.
He took over the STAZI. He used his power in
(09:41):
the STAZI to attack the American people for seven years, Chuck,
And for seven years, this letter was nowhere to be found.
Hold on, hold on, let me check the data again. Yep,
December ninth. Wow, look at that. December ninth, December Night's
twenty twenty four, Chuck grass sent a letter. Christopher Ray
(10:02):
is already resigning. Why now? Where were you when we
needed you? Oh? I know, Chuck, Chuck Grassley sees the
contraction of the system and now he's going to act
like mister a tough guy, gonna hold the FBI and check.
But Chuck, seven years of abuse, this letter was nowhere.
(10:27):
Where were you? I'm tired of this man. I'm tired
of the followers we have who are our elected politicians.
I'm tired of them always coming in a day late
and a dollar short. The school board moms didn't need
a letter on December ninth to twenty twenty four, Chuck.
They needed your help when it mattered. The pro lifers
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being sent to federal prison didn't need a letter on
December ninth to twenty twenty four, Chuck. They needed you
when it mattered. Donald Trump his family had FBI agents
rifling through his wife's underwear drawer. They didn't need a
letter on December to December ninth, twenty twenty four. They
needed you back when it mattered and back when it mattered, Chuck,
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you were nowhere to be seen. Pathetic. All that may
have made you uncomfortable, but I am right. Sean Spicer
is gonna join us in a moment speaking of pathetic
Pete Hegseth. Is he gonna get through the Senate or
are these losers like Joni Ern's gonna hold things up.
We'll talk to Sean about that in just the moment.
Before we talked to Sean about that. Let me talk
(11:35):
to you about sleeping at night. I love to sleep.
Sleep's my favorite thing in the world. Well that's not true.
It's one of my favorite things in the world. I
love it and I sleep like a baby every single night,
even those days where days maybe been stressful. I had
a little extra coffee. Not still sleep like a baby
because I have dream powder from Beam. And it's not
(11:57):
the sleeping, right, it's a cup of hot chocolate, it's
all not melotone and things like that. But it's not
the sleeping. It's the waking when you wake up after
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What's all the scuttle butt on Capitol Hill? Which one
of these dominations is getting through? Which one isn't? How
screwed up is Siria right now? I don't know anything
answer to any of these questions, but I bet Sean does.
Joining me now the host of the Great Sean Spicer's
Shoe my friend Sean Spicer. Okay, Sean, I love, actually
love most of Trump's nominees. Some of them are just
(12:48):
absolutely wretched, like that surge in general. But we don't
have to get into that. But the really important ones,
like Pete hegg Seth, they need to get through. We
have to have these reforms. Who's gonna make it and
who's not? John? I don't so far.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I don't see anybody not getting through. I say that
because the look justin just to put this in context here,
viewers understand this. When Biden put forward his cabinet, not
a single Democrat voted against a single nominee, not one.
The only thing that's keeping any of these nominees back
(13:24):
are other Republicans. Remember, we have a fifty three seat majority.
We shouldn't even be having this discussion. The president's putting
forward very qualified people to execute his agenda and barring
anything that's you know, revelationary or you know coming, so
(13:45):
like there's no reason he shouldn't get it. And so
they gave all of these morons in the Biden cabinet
their spot who were not qualified. Excuse me, I don't
know why we're even having these conversations among the Republican
conference the people that President Trump award because they are
a bunch of bandies.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I mean we are because look at look at Pete.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Hegseath, two Bronze Stars, three tours, getmo Afghanistan, Iraq, educated
at Princeton and Harvard. I mean maybe that we should
hold against him. Frankly, the only thing I have against
is Pete is that he went into the army. I mean,
he's clearly you know, could have joined you and I
as but I just, I mean, honestly, like the notion
(14:28):
that he's not qualified is the is something that someone
in Washington says, I get that he actually might want
to have the Pentagon pass an audit for the first
time in eight years. I get that he might challenge
the status quo. I get that he might focus on
readiness and war fighting and get away from DEI and.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
All that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
But the bottom line is, I mean, this is insane,
the idea that we're questioning the qualifications of these guys,
because the dirty little secret is it's not a qualification.
It's about whether or not they buy into a woke ideology.
As long as that's your standard, the media and the
left will give you a pass.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I mean I brought this up before Jesse.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Dennis McDonald, the current Secretary of Veterans Affairs, never served
in the military, never worked with a veteran service organization.
He never, as far as I know, gave out mortgages
or healthcare. The two chop services.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Of the VA.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Pete Boodagic was mayor of South in Indiana that had
a total of sixty six buses, and yet these people
were somehow qualified to run these departments.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Give me a break, okay, Sean, So walk me through
the thinking when you have a Jony Ernst type because
this is what I've said, and you can speak to
the accuracy or not that the American people wanted reforms,
they wanted Trump style reforms. They want the Trump agenda
very clearly, the country spoke loudly. But a lot of Republicans,
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especially the long established ones in the United States Senate,
see themselves as protectors of the system, not reformers, and
so any thought of a reformer, they're actually going to
join the other team. Am I wrong?
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Yeah, there's something to that that they're afraid of the
status quo, like I get the current secretary of this
or that gives me and make sure that my state
gets taken care of for whatever commitments that I've gotten
out of them during their confirmation. But the larger point
is this, the President Trump got elected.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
It's his agenda, not theirs.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
And so I'm willing to give some of these other
people that I might not wholeheartedly agree with the past
as long as they're agreeing and understanding that they're buying
into enacting President Trump's agenda, not their own right. So
that's the other thing that these senators have to understand
that it's not so and so's agenda or so and
so's policies that matter. It's whether or not President Trump
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has a problem, and that's what they should be asking
questions about. It is what does President Trump want to
do about this? What does President Trump think about this?
Because in the case of Pete Hegseth, he's made it
very clear that his number one job is to execute
the America First policy and keep our country safe.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
That's it, full stop. Sean, walk me through why Trump
has improved so drastically personnel wise. We don't have to
rehash the old stuff. You and I've had this conversation many, many,
many times before. It's like a different person. It's like
a different organization. It's just winner after winner after winner again,
a couple I may not like, but it's very clearly
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a professional operation of people who support his agenda.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Who do we have to think for that? We have
him to think for it. I mean, look, I admit
you look back on twenty sixteen. He had never served
in an office before. He didn't have a cadre of folks.
He wasn't a former governor or senator that could call
this team into action. But to answer your question, fundamentally,
it's sort of like when a sports team plays another
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team for the second time, and they've seen the other
team's players in the matchups, and they go, Okay, we
know that when so and so goes this way, we
go that way. We know their vulnerabilities, we know their strengths.
And Trump now knows these are the three things. He
knows the people, the policies, and the processes to get
things done. And that's the big difference this time. I've
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said this before, Jesse. He's most administrations take you know,
three four months to get up to speed. He's gonna
need about three seconds because they know the right people.
And it's not just the people that are getting brought in,
it's the people that aren't getting brought in. So you're
not bringing in an amurosa and wondering why things aren't
working right. Trump this time knows I need this person
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to do this job, to enact this policy.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Sean Syria. Actually I could expand this way beyond Syria,
but Syria, Ukraine, other parts of the world. It's very
obvious to anyone paying attention that the current administration, the
Biden administration, if we're still calling it, that they're trying
to get America as locked into certain places as they
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possibly can before Donald Trump can get in there and
actually try to fix things. How successful are they going
to be? He can only do what he can do.
He's not a god.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Well to your first point, I think we should just
call it the administration because I'm really not sure who's
running things the administration, and I think that they're going
to try to commit the US to certain things, but
I don't think they're going to be successful. I really don't.
I think that Trump will undo it. You know, he again,
(19:32):
he gets back to four years wiser. They can't hide
things like they did last time because he now knows
exactly where to look and to how to how to
start on the right foot. So unlike last time where
there were some things that there's a learning curve, this
time he comes in day one ready to go, and
so any kind of shenanigans like that are going to
get undone as quick as they were put in.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Jem. Thank you, my brother. I appreciate you. All right,
talk to some serious stuff with Stephen Yates. That'll get spicy.
What's going on over there Before we get to him.
Let me talk to you about saving a baby's life.
It's about the most precious thing you can do right.
Because a baby can't save itself, caven talk to it
(20:16):
for itself. Got to have an advocate, it's got to
have you. Preborn sets up their pro life clinics in
the highest abortion areas of the country, where young women
are killing their babies in droves, and Preborn gives these
women the gift of ultrasound. The ultrasound is the greatest
weapon in the pro life movement. You get that young
(20:38):
lady to hear that heartbeat, it's about the years more
than the eyes. She hears that heartbeat, she will choose
life almost every time. And that's what your twenty eight
dollars buys. Twenty eight dollars buys that ultrasound, Go save
a life. It's tax deductible for Pete's sake. Preborn dot
com slash Jesse. We'll be back Syria. I know everyone's
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talking about it now, and it's one of those areas
that people get extremely confused on. So we're going to
bring experts into this show to make sure we don't
sound stupid at parties when we're talking to friends and family.
And there's nobody better at making us not sound stupid
than Stephen Yates, national security expert with the Heritage Foundation. Stephen,
I don't want to sound stupid at a party. Asad
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was a bad guy, but the rebels are bad guys.
Who am I supposed to be rooting for? Here? What
talk to us about Syria?
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Well, Jesse, you're not wrong about this being actually pretty
complicated and we can get pretty confusing.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Also not wrong.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
It'sid bad guy pretty much the dictionary definition there. Pictures
should be right there. And I think people, if maybe
they scratch their heads a little bit, might remember this
thing that we called the Arab Spring not that long ago,
where there were a lot of confusing situations where bad
leaders might be getting toppled, and there was an aftermath.
One in particular comes to mind, and that was Libya
(22:06):
where Momar Kadafi obviously truly bad guy, and there was
an effort made by the US government among others to
push him out, but there was a kind of chaos
and really hard to read the room about who are
we dealing with the aftermath?
Speaker 7 (22:21):
I think there's a bit of that playing out in Syria.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Now we get it that Asad was bad and probably
better for the world that someone like him moves from
the stage, but there's a lot of work to be
done about where things go from here in Syria. And
the one thing that seems very clear is the president
elect that's going to be inaugurated in January doesn't want
the United States involved in moving coalitions, drafting constitutions and
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trying to tell them how to govern. And that's probably
a good starting point in terms of lessons we should
have learned from Arab spring.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Steved I'm confused why it's so hard for us to
accept some of these lessons. I understand it's the United
States of America. We have a leadership role, and I
understand that people just by their nature want to fix things,
want to get involved there. But we keep removing these
guys because they're But we did it with Saddam, you know,
Saddam was a world class piece of crap. You mentioned
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Kadafi now Asad. Certainly not going to applaud or cheer
for any of these men. But there are some areas
that are just going to be governed by bad guys,
are there not?
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Well, Ultimately, the people that live there have to be
the ones that are in charge of who they're governed by.
Sometimes that's not fair. My grandfather told me life isn't fair,
and so far I've discovered he was telling the truth.
But these there are several parts of the world, and
sometimes even the United States we get the government we deserve,
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but it's just the case that there are limits to
what we can and should do. That if we wanted
to occupy and run these parts of the world as colonies,
that is a model that was trying in the past.
I don't think it's what the American people want or
people in these regions want. So you have to figure out,
so what are you going to do to help allies
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in that region that are closer to the action, that
have more at stake, help them do what they think
is most advisable in having a stable partner and neighbor
that's on their border. And I think the United States
can play a role in convening those conversations. But we
should be supporting cast We should not be the lead
in these kinds of things. I think that's the adjustment
(24:30):
we've been living through since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Why do we ever get involved in a place like
Syria to begin with? I mean, it's not hard to
look at a place like Saudi Arabia and figure out
why we would get involved, you know, Israel, something like that.
I understand there are all kinds of debates to be had,
but Syria is an odd place to get involved. Why
are we involved.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Well, sometimes we get involved because we think we can
make a difference in a particular way. And that could
just be people who are the brilliant memo writers of
the world, who think they've come up with a new
strategy of the universe. And if your organizing theory is
that you want to contain global jihadism, and there's jihadism
breaking out in Syria, maybe there's something we can and
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should do to help contain it or defeat it there.
And maybe there's pros and cons to that. But we
live in an era where we have a multitude of
interest pulling us in a lot of different directions. We
have the questions about the role of Russia and China
and Iran generally that could arguably be bigger fish to fry.
I think in some ways the broader Middle East is
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safer now because the State of Israel ignored the Biden
foreign policy and went its own way together sometimes with
its neighbors, and took decisive action. That's basically the model
of where we need to go. I think it's our
missionary impulse, which could be admirable in some ways, that
gets us to think we need to be the ones
jumping in and doing these things. But I think that
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this is a treacherous devil's playground.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Particularly speaking of treacherous Steven. How are we supposed to
handle the Kurdish issue in this area? They sit there
right next to Turkey. Turkey obviously doesn't want them, hates
their guts this new regime. They're not going to be
big fans. The Kurds are sitting on thirty to fifty
(26:19):
thousand ISIS fighters, depending on who you happen to talk
to at the time. We can't allow thirty to fifty
thousand Isis fighters to go back to carrying Ak forty
sevens and butchering babies. How do we handle this?
Speaker 6 (26:34):
It's a really good question. I don't have a perfect
answer to that. This is one of those legacy issues
when you randomly draw lines in sand that don't accurately
capture where civilizations are, but just where military powers decide
to draw them in a moment in history, and the
Kurds are divided across different sovereign boundaries. The ethnic group
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of the Kurds does sit on top of some substantial recas,
so they have funding and they have power that comes
with that. But this has been an unstable relationship with
multiple neighbors for a long time. I don't think America's
got the secret sauce to solve that. But my point
of view is when these kinds of activities rise to
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a level that it really can cross a profound American
national interest, we should act decisively. That's kind of what
Donald Trump did when he launched cruise missiles into Syria,
killing some Russians at a time. But he didn't invade
and occupy the country, but he would use our weight
when we needed to make a move. I think that's
what we should have done with these leaders.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
I know people don't want to talk about taking.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Leaders out, but it would have been a lot cheaper
and more effective if we had a problem with a
sod Or Saying or others, if we supported some move
to eliminate those leaders, and if the bad ones come
in afterwards, well we'll deal with them if we have to.
But it's much better than trying to occupy and run
these countries. So we just have to I think, be
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a little bit more cautious, maybe a little more ruthless
in bursts to push the direction. But ultimately it's the
neighborhood that has to solve where this goes.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Stephen, what's the danger in Syria? Now? I realize there's
all kinds of danger for the people there, That's not
what I'm talking about. I'm we're talking about globally for us.
What is something we need to be watching out for
where we say, oh uh oh, that might not be
good for us.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Well, I think if we see the amassing of capabilities
where another terrible strike on Israel were to take place,
or some other movement that would be able to reach
beyond the borders of Syria. There have been things, I
know it's a source subject with Iraq, things still in memory,
but there are problems with chemical biological weapons that have
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been moved into that theater. So seeing the sort of
travesty of a decade plus of war and that material
getting moved places used in inappropriate ways would be something
to deeply, deeply watch for.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
They've already had a.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
Tremendous flow of refugees go out that we're destabilizing at
a time. I think a big question now is with
a change in leadership, do how many of those refugees
go back, all those that went across the land bridge
into Europe and elsewhere, do they go back to Syria
and try to build a better future. As the optimists
might say, these are the kind of the variables that
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I would watch for. But right now it doesn't look
like Syria is a transnational, trans regional risk.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
If we continue to bolster our.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Allies who have a lot of capability to bring to
bear there.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
How powerful of a military are we talking about with
this victorious rebel group, this al kaeda Isis alliance. I
don't have a good gauge on what they can do
and what they can't do. Clearly they're capable enough regionally
to oust Assad, which says they can do something, But
can they take on Israel?
Speaker 6 (30:01):
Well, this is where if you are a constructive power,
it takes more time, money and material to do good
things than it does to do bad things. I mean, really,
at low tech and low cost, they can do awful
things to people, whether they're in Israel or elsewhere. And
that's just the way. Another way that life is unfair
when it comes to militaries and bad actors in the world.
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They clearly are capable enough to do that. But our
response should be if Israel would like to buy more
capabilities to bolster their deterrent, and if other responsible allies
in the region, maybe the Abraham Accords coalition of countries
wanted more material, we should sell it to them. They
have the money to buy it, and they could do
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more to balance and deter in the region, whether it's
against Iran until it changes its form of government someday,
or just generally against their proxies in the region. I
think that's the safest way to go. Europe should be
doing more with Turkey on the other flank. They're a
NATO ally, but really Europe should be doing more to
bolster some sense of stability and responsibility there.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
What about Russia? Finally, I want to ask about Russia.
They obviously want that warm water port. I'm assuming they've
already lost it or they're going to lose it. I
don't assume they're just going to wash their hands of
this whole region, right.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
I don't think they'll wash their hands of the region,
and I think they're pretty comfortable doing deals with the
devils that are wherever they may find them, and so
while there's been a change of caste, they may be
out temporarily, but I would expect them to seek to
use their influence. I mean, really, for Russia, I think
the biggest variable in the equation is Trump two point
zero and that bladdermir Putin may have bigger fish to
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fry than access to a port through Syria and the
proxy activity that's been carried through that avenue of opportunity
that he's had. I think once we get a clearer
sense of where Trumps talks with Putin and the future
of the Russia Ukraine situation are going, we'll have a
(32:09):
better read on where things filter into the broader Middle East.
I think President Trump is going to be really strong
on the alliance with Israel, and it's going to be
really strong with the Abraham Accortz countries, and I think
that goes a long way to shaping the space that
Russia would try to engage.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Stephen, thank you so much, as always, that was dynamite.
Appreciate it all. Right, what's going on with RFK Junior?
What does he believe? We'll talk to Jennifer Glardi about
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all right. What's up with this? RFK junior pick? What
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do you know about RFK Junior. I have had the
experience of having heard him speak several times in person,
and I'll always be a skeptic of new arrivals. But
the things he says about our food, about our medical industry,
about the pharmaceutical industry in this country, they're pretty powerful.
And this is not some dummy who doesn't know what
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he's talking about. He's clearly very well researched. But I
bet Jennifer Glardi knows a bit more about him than
I do. Joining me now, Culture Health and Policy writer,
my friend Jennifer Glardi. Okay, Jennifer Rfka Junior. Is he
just some seventy year old chiseled quack or is this
guy know what he's talking about?
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Well, the proof is always in the pudding, right. You
look at this guy and he's seventy, and I'm like, guy,
he's pretty hot for seventy. I mean, you know, I'd
rather have him than Rachel Levine, a man who thinks
she's a woman. You know, it's in charge of our
health and in charge of our health policy. So that's
one thing. I mean, that's a step in the right direction.
(34:52):
You didn't have to jump over a very high bar there,
but I listen. I understand the concerns when it comes
to alternative therapies maybe and what RFKJ is selling and
non Western medical practices. It's a little bit of a
wild wild West out there. It's not regulated. There are
quite a few quacks, and he may come across as
that to some people. You've got Joe Rogan's of the
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world espousing psychedelics, which I'm highly doubtful of, the Andrew
Huberman's of the world talking about some crazy stuff to
make sure all the Hubert Dads live until they're one
hundred and thirty years old.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
And you know, people are like, this is nuts. So
I understand that.
Speaker 8 (35:29):
Skepticism, and that's also taken out of context with people
who don't understand this like comprehensive, holistic landscape of health
and just kind of attack everything with the same tool.
And I've been in this arena for almost two decades
and I still wish there was someone there that would
just tell me what to do and what I should.
Speaker 7 (35:47):
And shouldn't eat.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
So but there's some things he's nailing, which are the
additives in our food. There are definitely things we could
be doing better with our food. Supply, we can get
the red forty out of food. We can follow better
agricultural practices, We can definitely get the subsidies.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
Out of agriculture.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
The crops such as sugar, corn, wheat, all of these
were heavily subsidized by the government, which.
Speaker 7 (36:13):
Kind of caused this explosion. And junk food.
Speaker 8 (36:17):
They had to put that corn somewhere, so they made
corn syrup, these seed oils and things.
Speaker 7 (36:23):
That were never in foods before.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
My friend sent me an Instagram post today that put
side by side ice cream in probably the seventies and
then ice cream now the same brand, and ice cream
back then was cream, sugar, milk, and vanilla, whatever kind
of flavoring you want. Now it's a list of fifty ingredients.
So there's something going on there to look at. And
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I think RFK has even if he didn't get this appointment,
just the awareness he's brought to this is really important.
So unfortunately, the overextension of government did start this problem
with kind of creating these junk foods and this addiction
to junk food that we now have which.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
Causes all sorts of sickness.
Speaker 8 (37:07):
Just obesity is the number one thing, but you can't
necessarily solve the problem with the same thing that created it, right,
So more government regulation. I think this is where I'm
a little cautious with RFKJ. I don't know that more
government regulation is the solution. What I'd like to see
is deregulation. Get the government out of agriculture, get the
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subsidies out, return power to the people. That's what this
whole administration is about, right, Get government out of the way,
so then we have the opportunity to flourish. And I
think there has to be an appetite for health. People
have to now demand health, and I think that's what
this is about, and the MAHA movement's about, is that
we're now demanding health and then we actually have to
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follow through.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
I think that's true for the whole Trump presidency.
Speaker 8 (37:53):
We've now been unburdened by what has been so to speak,
you know Trump Now, I know I felt the lighter
after the last time we talked, which was the night
of the election.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
I woke up I was so excited.
Speaker 8 (38:04):
But now we actually have to do the work, and
people are going to have to do the work to
invest in their own health.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Jennifer, what do you think about that killer of the
United Healthcare guy being Italian.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
Listen, now you know that's kind of the way it goes.
Ask the Italian.
Speaker 8 (38:23):
It's a that's a stereotype.
Speaker 7 (38:26):
But this is interesting because you mentioned the healthcare.
Speaker 8 (38:29):
This guy's obviously a healthcare ceo, right, And the manifesto
from this killer now we know more he's really upset
that the healthcare system is not properly addressing people. But
it's you've got this bohemoth that has everything to do
with keeping people sick than flourishing health, and you're going
to get frustrations in that. I think the timing was
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completely ill timed to these people who are applauding, you know,
this this maniac who killed the CEO of the healthcare company.
But we do need to do something about the system
because right now it's just this never ending circle of
pharmaceuticals diagnosis, more pharmaceutical side effects, more pharmaceuticals to treat those.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
So you know, that's my take.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Plus he was Italian. All right, Let's go back to
RFK Junior, and you mentioned, you know, all the quackery
that's out there. You're much more in tune with, I
don't know, the healing crystals and chocolate weird o Indian stuff.
I don't even know what all this stuff is. How
much of this stuff is he all about? Is he is?
Look again, you get an internet caricature of somebody is
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not necessarily true. Is this a guy who rejects all
traditional medicine? What is he? No?
Speaker 7 (39:44):
I don't think so.
Speaker 8 (39:45):
And I think that's where the media gets it wrong.
And of course they're going to do that, just like
they're I mean, they're going to crush him if they're
a crushing pete hegsett. They're going to crush this guy
in his personal life. But you know, he's a disruptor.
He's a disruptor of the system, just like peak head
Seth will be. And just like Trump kind of had promised,
but he's not saying abolish vaccinations.
Speaker 7 (40:06):
We need to do more research, just like take ozempic.
Speaker 8 (40:10):
There are no long term studies about ozempic, and now
it's being pushed through kind of medic here to be
covered by Medicare and governmental agencies. So I just think
there needs to be an honest examination of the agencies,
how they work together. And you pull on the string
of this and you also get to education. How are
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we educating our kids about health instead of treating them
like these little robots that need to.
Speaker 7 (40:39):
Learn math and science, which they do.
Speaker 8 (40:40):
They need to learn how to read and write, but
they also need how to be need to know how
to be.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
Good human beings. I think I don't even know if
you can say this anymore. Home ech? Can you bring that?
Can we say home ech?
Speaker 8 (40:50):
I'm not sure what we would call it in politically
correct language, but we need to bring homech back into
the curriculum. Obviously physical education back into the curriculum.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
These kids.
Speaker 8 (40:59):
You put a bull, a fourteen year old boy in
a seat for six hours a day, of course he's
gonna go crazy. That kid needs to punch something, throw something,
run something out. You know, we're not treating children, and
we're not treating people as kind of human beings. We're
treating them as these autonomous little soldiers.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Yeah, we do need to bring homech back. That was
where all the chicks were. I loved homeck when I
was in high school. Okay, so let's let's talk about
these dies. Like you mentioned red dye forty or whatever
this weird crap is, but it didn't used to be there.
So how is that? How that how does that come
from regulation? I want you to explain to me who
(41:39):
decided to start putting this die crap in my twinkies.
Speaker 8 (41:44):
I mean, there's all sorts of conspiracy theories out there.
What it was that it came from. I believe something
that was manufactured for weapons and then they needed to
do something with it, and they could figure it out.
They could turn it into a food dye and sell
it and put it into foods to make it more
or to make it more appealing to children. It really
does that. That bright dye is not normal, so that's
(42:06):
a marketing thing.
Speaker 7 (42:08):
Again.
Speaker 8 (42:08):
I don't like to comment on the kind of conspiracy
theories about this came from the Department of Defense, and
you know, I don't know about that.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
That's not my area of expertise.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
But I can tell you marketing wise, it was used
definitely to make these foods more appealing a lot of
times to children.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Kids are dumb too, We'll believe that, Jennifer. Thank you
so much. I appreciate it very much. We have like
to move next. All right, it is time to lighten
the mood, and you know it is the Christmas season
(42:52):
and efficiency is key when it comes to the Christmas season.
You learn this as a dude and well enjoy, Oh
my here no more then talking abound before. Yeah, that's greatness.
(43:32):
I'll see them
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