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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Well, tis the season to make lists. It is the season,
isn't it where everyone asks you have a list? Do
you have a Christmas List? I remember my parents used
to ask me all the time when I was a kid, Hey,
do you have a wish list for Christmas? Now? I
should prepare you now because we're about to talk about
our wish list for the GOP for twenty twenty five,
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very similar to my house. If I came up with
a list of five things I wanted for Christmas as
a child, I'm gonna get one, maybe two. It's a
good year. My parents are certainly not going to look
at my list of things and say, yeah, let's just
buy all those That's not how it works. And so
before we go into my wish list, the guests wish list,
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we have great guests, great night for you. Here, let's
talk about what is realistic really quickly, briefly. Here we
are dealing with a monumental task at hand. The task
at hand is we have this humongous government. It has
taken decades and decades and decades for the government to
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get this big and this corrupt, through decades of neglect
by the American people. Remember, this is all our fault.
Decades of wow, I'm not getting involved in the primary,
you guys catch the game. Decades of that kind of
thinking has given us a large, corrupt, criminal organization that
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presides over the United States of America. That means it
doesn't mean we can't do great things. We can, but
it also means, you me, we have to be realistic
about what can be done, what can't be done, and
more specifically, what will be done and what won't be done.
So what's on my list? First? Immigration, deportation. These things
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got guys, Donald Trump made him the guy in charge
of deportation and immigration. Tom Holman all over television saying
all the right things.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
So you were pretty much the first person Trump chose
after he got elected.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I think was the end of that week, right, Yeah,
I believe I was. Can you summarize in one sentence
what you plan to do with the job.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Well, look, we had a discussion that night and he
gave me three rails. Three things he wants me to do.
Number one and secure the border. Yeah, shut the border down.
Number two, run the biggest deportation operation his country's ever seen.
And third, he wants me to lead an effort to
find the over three hundred thousand missing children that were
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traffic into this country.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay, that sounds awesome and that's a good start. Let's
be clear about that. Securing the border is something that
can and do. But even that we'll have roadblocks. Remember
the Biden administration as we speak, they are auctioning off
the border wall material, trying to make it so we
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can't even build a wall. So that we can do it,
it'll be slower and more difficult than you think. Deporting
the criminals, now, this should be fairly easy, right, It's
not difficult to find out where the criminals are. We
actually know where almost all of them are. Especially local
law enforcement people are aware of the problem. So it
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sounds very very simple. Sounds simple to you, sounds simple
to me. Well, it's not as simple when you consider this.
And we're going to keep coming back to this over
and over and over again on the show tonight. There
exists in this country as part of that large corrupt
criminal network, a lot of people in positions of power
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who view their only job stopping anyone who's going to
try to change things. Remember, it's a criminal enterprise. What
is the one thing criminal enterprises all do a mafia family.
They protect themselves, the communists in this country and the
low TGP like James Langford. They have dedicated themselves for
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decades to bringing in all the Third World filth they
possibly can into this country. They want them here. They
want the crime. They do want the crime, remember it
helps them gain power. They want the rape, they want
the murder, they want the drugs, they want the cheap labor.
They want people who will eventually become voters, or at
least their children will be, who have no loyalty to
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the United States of America whatsoever. Because if you're a
politician who doesn't like the country, these patriotic citizens like you,
they're a problem. So they just replaced you with ten
people from Guatemala, then they don't have to worry about
you at all. There is a huge network of people
dedicated to keeping in the millions and millions and millions
of people the communists have brought into this country. If
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you think they're just going to step aside and let
Tom Holman and Ice come on in and round up
criminals by the million, well I'd say you're probably going
to be disappointed. But we can begin, we can begin
securing the border. We can begin deporting the criminals. We
can begin finding some of those three hundred thousand missing children.
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And I'm not going to spend long on them. And
it's not because I don't want to, or not because
they don't matter. They matter so much. It's because that
tale is a very, very very sad one. Many of
those children are gone to the darkness forever and it's awful.
And remember Democrats did that on purpose. Okay, but that's
our wish list. Secure the border and deport the criminals. However,
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those three steps are a good start. That's the basics.
That shouldn't even be a Republican versus Democrat thing. That's
a basic national thing. Securing the borders should be both parties.
Deporting criminals should be both parties. Finding missing children should
be both parties. Of course it's not, but that's how
it should be. That's a good start. We have thirty
forty if the pick your number. No one knows million
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people here illegally they're all criminals too. Gather every one
of them up, men, women and children, young and old,
and ship them back from whence they came. And then
we can begin dealing with the people who got here
legally in mass because remember the government has spent years
passing bill after bill of regulation after regulation bringing in
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people legally who shouldn't be here. Either ship them off
as well. That's step one. Step two. Let's talk about
cutting spending has to happen on a long enough timeline.
If they continue to collapse the dollar, then what does
the rest of this matter. If we don't have any
kind of buying power, then we don't really have anything
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because the country will cease to provide for us any
abil to get a standard of living of any kind.
And the federal government spending two million dollars a year
more than it takes in makes a disaster inevitable. Let's
start getting some things caught now. I know you're probably
about pulling your hair out so it looks like mine.
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About the continuing resolution and all this other craziness we've
seen in Congress. Look, that's just evidence of what I've
been saying. They have spent decades this corrupt, criminal organization
making change difficult and in some ways impossible. Listen to
this guy.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
The power of impoundment has been a presidential authority literally
for the first two centuries two hundred years of our country.
And then in nineteen seventy four, Congress passed the Impowerment
Control Act, which seriously limited the president's ability to cut spending.
Or I mean, think of it like this, Maria, if
you can, if Congress appropriates ten million dollars for a
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specific program, and then the president can accomplish that program
with seven million dollars and save three million of it,
save thirty percent. Shouldn't he have the authority to do that.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
That is one of a million things I could have
laid out for you about what this Congress has done
with this judge has done. Remember, the corrupt criminal organization
its own legal is to protect itself, protect the mafia family,
protect the criminal organization. And so they're always slipping this
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into this and slipping this rule into that. And let's
slip this one into the continuing resolution. Let's make sure
we sign a deal so we can't fire government employees. Yes,
I want Elon Musk and Vivek and these guys to
go in there and slash and burn the federal budget
to try to save the United States of America. If
you think they're going to go in and cut two
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trillion dollars in spending, then I have some motion front
property in Arizona. I would love to sell you. Please
get a whole of the show. I'll give you a
great price on that. Simply not going to happen, but
we can begin. Let's temper our expectations, but let's begin.
And that brings me to my final of the three.
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Now there's a million things I want, but these are
my big three. The Department of Justice, the FBI can
I cannot put into words how important it is that
these institutions be completely cleaned out, one hundred percent cleaned
out and disinfected from the communist filth that has taken
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them over. And that is so critical because it doesn't
matter what else happens. You can't have a free country
with a secret state police agency running the justice system.
It doesn't work that way. They will simply continue to arrest, assault, abuse,
and in some cases the American citizens who are viewed
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as a threat to them. A free country and a
secret police agency cannot coexist with each other. The Federal
Bureau of Investigation must be removed in its entirety. I
don't think that's realistic. Cash Betel is probably not going
to take over and shut the building down. Although I
wish he would, but he had better get in there
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and start mopping up the filth out of there. And
the DOJ works hand in hand of course, with the FBI.
You have a justice system, a department of justice that
has spent the last few years hunting down school board parents,
sticking guns in the faces of pro lifers, and raiding
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Donald Trump's home in mar Lago to rifle through his
wife's underwear drawer. All the people who did those things
are still there. If they remain there, we will never
get to be free. These people DJ FBI have the
power to completely destroy your life. And don't say something
naive but I'm not a criminal. Oh my gosh, you
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have no idea what you're dealing with. These people can
turn you into a criminal like that, or in the
very least, they'll put you through the ringer when it
comes to the legal system. Bankrupt you, bankrupt your family.
How about selling your home and spending the rest of
your days in a tiny one bedroom apartment with your
family of four because you had to unload every dime
you had on legal fees and you lost your job
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as well. That's what they have the power to do.
We cannot be free while these organizations are allowed to
rampage through this society and they must be stopped. All
that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right.
Sarah Gonzalez is going to join us. Next. Let's find
out what her wish list is. We'll be back.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
And what happens January twenty First, where do you start?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Well, there's three rails. We'll start the first day at
number one, we're going to secure the border. Number two,
we're going to run the deportation operation. And number three,
I'll look at these three hundred thousand kids. We'll find
them too. Trump's been clear we're going to prioritize public
safety threats and national security threats first because they pose
the most dangerus to the station. So day one we're
going to be looking for these public safety threats, arrest
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of them, detainingum and deporting them. And if these sanctuary
city mayors don't want to help, they get the hell
out of the way.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Can we're coming.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
We're doing that.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
You say that the left media has it backwards, branded
you as the bad guy. How are you the bad guy?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
You know, I grew up in a family full of costs.
My grandfather's a cop, my dad was a cop, and
we're in the situation now with the left things. Those
who enforce laws are the bad guys, those who broke
a lot of victims. Well, we're going to change that
after January twentieth.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Sounds good. Joining me now, my friend Sarah Gonzale's host
of Unfiltered with Sarah Gonzalez. Okay, Sarah, I have my
wish list for what I want to see begin in
twenty twenty five. I have my list of priorities, immigration, deportation, debt,
and all that other stuff. What's the Sarah Gonzalez wish list?
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Well, I'm sure it probably looks a little similar to yours, Jesse.
I do want the border to be secured. I do
want mass deportations. I do want them to end birthright citizenship.
But I do want a little bit more than that.
I want the justice to be enacted on all of
the people who weaponized the legal system, not just against
Donald Trump, but against all of the pro life protesters,
against the Grandmas who were waving their American flags on
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January sixth at the Capitol. I think that retribution is
in order for Anthony Fauci and for all of the
people who lied to the American population in order to
shut the country down after they, of course were involved
in releasing a virus to the entire world. You see,
people forgotten about those things, but I haven't, and I
would like Some may say retribution, but I would just
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say justice, because these are the real crimes and criminals
that we are talking about. Aside from that, I would
also like to see federally a ban on, of course,
the transitioning of minors, both physically, medically, and then also
additionally socially.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I can't believe we're in a place as a country
where we even have to ban chopping off a teenage
girl's breasts, but nevertheless, that's where we are in the country. Okay,
so let's focus on the deportation stuff. Sarah. Obviously I
am a cynic, as you well know. I want this
to happen. I've been very impressed with Trump and Holman
and these guys. How they haven't backed off of that
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since they won the election. There's been no race to
the middle like you normally see. But what is realistic
in what is not?
Speaker 6 (14:54):
I think it's realistic that we start by deporting the criminals.
There are plenty of them out there, as we saw
during the election season when Venezuelan gangs were of course
holding apartment complex as hostage. Although the mainstream media didn't
want us to believe it, they told you, don't believe
your lion eyes, it was happening. And so I think
that it's reasonable to expect that we can start deporting
the violent criminals and those associated with them. The people
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who currently are being released into the interiors of the country,
who are being released by you know, New York City.
They're bringing them in once they commit a crime, and
they're just you know, releasing them what on recognisance, I guess,
And so we can, I think reasonably expect that we
could deport these people. I agree with your cynicism in
the sense that I don't think that they will be
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able to deport everyone.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
You know, there's.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Mothers, there's children that I think optics wise, the American
people are going to feel a little ichy about. I
would say my personal opinion, for what it's worth, I
really don't care what the optics are. I hope that
they don't care what the optics are, because the fact
of the matter is, when people went into the polling
booth to the voting booth eighty percent. Some Poles said
eighty percent of Americans supported mass deportations. This is an
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issue that regardless of how ichy it feels, at the
end of the day, it's an issue that needs to happen.
And so I think if the Trump administration can get
past the mainstream media clearly trying to target them with
optics of look at this picture of this poor grandma
being separated from her children and her grandchildren, if they
can get past that and just be missionally aligned that Americans,
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whether or not it feels good, Americans said that they
want mass deportations. I think that they will be successful,
but I agree with you it's going to be a
little bit hard to achieve all of it. But why
not start with the violent criminals.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Sarah, Let's talk about what you're talked about when it
comes to justice or retribution or whatever however we want
to put it. When it comes to the Fauci types,
what's realistic there? Because look, let's be honest, Fauci and
Donald Trump were real, real real clothes. Fauci was his guy.
Trump gave him a meadow. I realized that Trump has
changed his two on that now, But it's hard to
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believe that Trump's going to get in there and oversee
the prosecution of the guy he handed the country too.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
I don't disagree with you there, but what I will
say is this, I think that Donald Trump has surrounded
himself with the right people in his ear, such as
RFK Junior, right, such as I mean, you've got this
alliance of people who were skeptic about COVID, and if
he's appointing RFK Junior to you know, hhs.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
That's a big deal to me.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
Robert F.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Kennedy Junior now in charge of all of these departments,
including the one that doctor Anthony Fauci ran when he was,
of course, remember the highest paid federal employee, shutting the
entire country down lying to the American public. You know,
we saw that from his emails. This is now public
information that he clearly was lying and knew what the
real cause of the pandemic was. But so I think
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that it speaks volumes that he did put RFK in
charge of that now that we of course have the
majority in both houses. I'm just not sure how much
Donald Trump has to do with that at this point,
which I think is a good thing. If Donald Trump
can be removed from that and not have to deal
with it, and let the ran palls of the world
and let the RFK juniors of the world point these
things out and uncover things that may lead to some
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sort of, you know, justice for Anthony Fauci. That's where
I think that maybe we can expect, you know, something
to happen again. It may be far fetched, but I'm
not going to stop talking about it. I'm sure people
like yourself are not going to stop talking about it
because it was just just a disgusting, horrible stain on
American history that just needs to be you know, repeated
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until justice is done.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Sirh you brought up the tranny's stuff, and I totally
agree with you on that, But do you think we've
reached peak tranny in this country? And I realized it
was always gross and kind of just horrifying, But now
that dudes are waving their penises around in women's locker rooms,
now that they're chopping up kids, clear that this thing
has gotten really really unpopular with even ormies in America.
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As the training madness, I realize it's still here, But
you think it's reached its peak?
Speaker 9 (19:10):
I do.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
I think that the pendulum is starting to swing the
other way.
Speaker 8 (19:13):
A case in point.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
You know, you look over at the UK, where remember
they're always a little bit ahead of us when it
comes to the radicalization and the craziness and the far
left ideology. While they're they're banning, you know, hormone therapy
for children, they're closing down their gender transition clinics for
children because they see the actual statistics and they see
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that it doesn't help these kids. It actually makes them
more prone to depression and suicidal ideation, and you know,
all of these negative effects. And so when we see
the writing on the wall with what's happened at the UK,
and we see the American people clearly voting for a
return to sanity, it looks to me like it's reached
its peak. You know, there's only so many trainees that
you can prants around on the White House lawn showing
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their fake breasts to the American public before they say, okay,
we're done with it. There are only so many young
women who have to get brain damage from, you know,
competing against men. True story. I just saw it. I
believe it was the post millennial that had this article out.
A young woman suffered brain damage from competing against a
biological male. There are only so much that the American
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people are willing to tolerate. You know, about fifty percent
of this American public are women, are females who are
being affected by this. There's only so much that we're
willing to take. I think that we've had enough. I
think that we saw the writing on the wall with
what's going on in you know, the UK and other places,
and I mean, my lips to God's ears, I hope.
I think that the American people have had enough and
we're finally going to see that end.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Along with banning trannies and women's sports. How realistic do
you think it is to ban women's sports entirely?
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Well, look, Jesse, I mean they're subsidized by the men's sports,
so if we're looking at a purely economic standpoint, it
just makes sense. Nobody watches and it's a money suck.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I'm with you, absolutely, Sera Gonzalez. Best of luck to
you and your family with all these deportations that are coming.
Thank you, ma'am. I appreciate it. All Right, we're not done.
Let's talk a little spending and stuff.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
Next.
Speaker 9 (21:31):
I was communicating with Elon last night. Elon and Vivek
and I are on a text chain together, and I
was explaining to them the background of this and Theveke
and I talked last night about almost midnight and he said, look,
I get it. He said, we understand you're in an
impossible position. Everybody knows that. Remember, guys, we still have
just a razor thin margin of Republicans, so any bill
has to have Democrat votes.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
They understand the situation.
Speaker 9 (21:52):
They said, it's not directed to you, mister speaker, but
we don't like the spending. I said, guess what, Fellas,
I don't either. We got to get this done, because
here's the key. By doing this, we are clearing the
decks and we are setting up for Trump to come
in roaring back with the America First Agenda. That's what
we're going to run with Gusto beginning January third, when
we start the new Congress, when Republicans again are in
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control and all of our fiscal conservative friends I'm one
of them, we'll be able to finally do the things
that we've been wanting to do for the last couple
of years. Right now, Democrats still control depens and that's
the problem. So we got to get this thing done
so we don't have the shutdown. So we get the
short term funding measure, and we get to March where
we can put our fingerprints on the spending. That's when
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the big changes start and we can't wait to get there.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Oh, that is such a load off. I was worried.
That's bringing now Amber Duke, she's the Washington editor of
The Spectator. Amber. That is actually a huge load off
of my chest. One he doesn't want to do this.
That makes me feel good. And two, next time they're
really going to dig in to this. I'm excited now.
Speaker 10 (23:02):
They promise next time. Every time, Jesse. That's the problem.
There's never a moment where they actually hold the line.
But I will say, if there's three things that are
good about this bill, and I'm really scratching the bottom
of the well to get these. One is that there
is diminished funding for the transgender youth surgeries through military healthcare,
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which is something of a win, although you know, with
the grand scope of this cr a very minimal win.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
And then two, this goes through March, so.
Speaker 10 (23:33):
Trump's going to be in office starting on January twentieth.
Let's hope that there's a clean slate come March, and
with Elon Musk's influence at DOGE and the general appetite
of Conservatives and Freedom Caucus to cut government spending. I
just hope to God that at that moment there's going
to be enough political pressure on these people that they're
not going to be able to.
Speaker 8 (23:53):
Pull these last minute shanigans anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Okay, Ember, what's your wish list for twenty twenty five
for the GOP? That is realistic?
Speaker 8 (24:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Because we all want the border secure and mass deportation,
spending cuts and like all these things. But what's realistic?
What can we do? What are we not going to
be able to do. We're not going to deport ten
million people, I'm not naive. We're not going to cut
two trillion dollars from a criminal organization known as the
US government. These things are not going to happen. But
we can do good things. What can we do well?
Speaker 10 (24:25):
I'm hopeful that we'll be able to actually pass HR one,
which was the original border security bill before Mitch mccaddell
decided to send in James Langford to negotiate that monstrosity
with the Senate. There needs to be a border security
bill that does not have amnesty in it, that does
not have a cap on how many illegals are allowed
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to come in.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
There shouldn't be any that are allowed in. That should
be number one. Number two.
Speaker 10 (24:50):
I think the House will have no problem expanding the
Trump tax cuts from his first term. Those are said
to expire soon, and I hope we're able to get
some meaningful cuts to most importantly not sending another red
scent to Ukraine.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
Those should be top three.
Speaker 10 (25:06):
And then if I had to go a little bit
further and ask for something that I don't think the
House will accomplish appropriately, investigations of the deep state. I mean,
just yesterday we had these text messages come out that
show Liz Cheney engaging and potentially witness tampering. Let's investigate
all these people, actually hold them accountable. But the reason
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I put that off of my top three wish list
is the House GOP has proven repeatedly that they are
not good at holding effective investigations. They tend to start
these things, get tons of media attention, and then they
never really go anywhere. So that's sort of my pie
in the sky wish for them. But I'm not expecting
that they that it'll happen, or that if they do it,
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it'll be anything meaningful.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
But what about one of my favorite things in the world,
firing federal employees. Do you think we will get any
kind of an actual reduction in the size of this government,
which somehow has become the largest employer in the country,
even though it was supposed to be limited.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
God, I hope so.
Speaker 10 (26:08):
And even if it's not done through Congress with a
changing of schedule f or anything like that, or reducing
the salaries of these people than from the executive side,
what Elon Musk and the bag Ramaswami have suggested, which
I think makes perfect sense in terms of attrition, is
forcing people to work in the office five days a week.
You won't believe it, Jesse. I was on my way
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home from Capitol Hill today. There is bumper to bumper
traffic at two point thirty in the afternoon because these
people in DC do not work. And then also moving
some of these federal agencies outside of DC so that
it is closer to the American people. It's insane that
we have so much power concentrated in this little area,
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and it's a reason why the policies are so divorced
from average Americans. Concerns put these people in the Midwest,
force them to go to work five days a week.
Half of the bad ones are going to and then
the rest of them are going to be so miserable
given four to six months, and they'll quit two And
then you have people working in these agencies who actually
care about what is happening in real America, not just
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in the DC metro corridor.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I don't know how you suffer through that traffic every
single day. And where I lived in that area for
one year, I was eleven miles from my house to
where I worked in DC, and there were days it
took me an hour and a half to get to
work over eleven miles. It's like a living.
Speaker 10 (27:30):
Hell, yes exactly. And luckily I work from home right now.
I only have to go in a couple of days
a week if I have meetings or if I'm doing
TV and what have you.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
But it is absolutely miserable.
Speaker 10 (27:42):
I don't understand how people commute every day from a
nine to five. During COVID, it was really nice, actually,
because most people were too scared to go into DC.
So if you were actually going to work and driving
in somewhere there was parking. Everywhere there was no parking
enforcement was like luxurious. But yes, it's returned to the
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healthscate that it has always been.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, and all my travels during COVID, the most masked
up area by a mile was Washington, DC, far out
pacing New York City or Cali or any of these places.
All right, and we're setting that aside. You mentioned Russia Ukraine.
Obviously we all want this thing to end. I would
like young men to stop being butchered for whatever reason
they're being butchered for. But what is realistic. Donald Trump
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is not president of Ukraine, he's not president of Russia.
Speaker 10 (28:32):
What can we do well, I mean, it has to
be as simple as this. Ukraine is only in this
fight to this point because of US assistance, whether it's weapons, money, whatever,
So the US should absolutely get us say and whether
or not, the war continues, and it's important to.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
Negotiate an end to this.
Speaker 10 (28:51):
Obviously, both sides are not going to get everything they want.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
But that's the nature of war. There's going to have
to be some compromise.
Speaker 10 (28:58):
Lensky can't continue to say, well, we're just going to
keep fighting until we basically.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
Don't have any money or bodies anymore. That's not acceptable.
You can't have it both ways.
Speaker 10 (29:09):
You can't say that you want US funding but the
US doesn't get a say and how you operate. Okay, great,
you don't want the US to be involved in negotiations
or you don't want them to force you to the
table with Russia, then all funding is off the table.
This has to be for lack of a better term.
If you remember, this became a huge flashpoint in one
of the Trump impeachments.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
Quid pro quo, if you get.
Speaker 10 (29:30):
US money, then we have a say in how things happen.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Amber. Thank you, ma'am. I appreciate you as always. All Right,
we're not near Doune. Let's talk a little bit more
of this stuff.
Speaker 11 (30:00):
The conference itself owns this right, and the Conference needs
to decide whether we're actually serious about spending. And they
talk about, well, we got to do mandatory spending reform
and bend the curve, But we just voted on a
two hundred billion dollar shift of dollars in social security
that's going to shorten the time when social scurity expires
or it goes bankrupt. We're just fundamentally unserious about spending it.
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As long as you got a blank check, you can't
shrink government. If you can't shrink government, you can't live free.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I don't disagree with anything I heard there joining me
now my fellow spending I don't even know if I
want to call her a guru. We're just frustrated. Tianna
lo Dasher, a columnist for the Washington Examiner. Tianna, my
wish list is that we actually just see you know,
I'm not even greedy anymore. I'm so beaten down. Look,
it's caused all my hair to fall out. I just
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want a dollar cut. I want a dollar of genuine cuts,
not a reduction in the spending increases. I'll settle for
one dollar before the day I die, and that'll be
a win at this point in time.
Speaker 12 (31:03):
Yeah, we are fundamentally unserious. I agree with that about
cutting spending, and like a part of that is you
get what you pay for, right. Donald Trump ran on,
we aren't touching entitlements and that means that you get
a twenty three percent benefit cut in Social Security in
about nine years.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Like that's just the reality.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Now.
Speaker 12 (31:22):
Doge is great as a concept to go after waste.
There are things in like discretionary spending that we are wasting,
but it doesn't.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Really change the.
Speaker 12 (31:33):
Fundamental calculus, which is that in an aging society where
no one is having kids, and when you know, a
lot of the illegal immigrants that we have imported over
the last four years are simply not working. They are
not working in nearly kind of the way that immigrants
and previous generations have.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
Of course, we're just going to be bleeding the welfare
state dry, and.
Speaker 12 (31:52):
It's a problem that no neither party really pretends to
have the solution for anymore.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
So at least we're liberated from the delusion.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, that's probably what frustrates me the most is the
cowardice of it all. I'm not even worried about the communists,
I know what they are, but the losers in the
low TGP many of these people know exactly what the
solution is. They just lack the balls that actually say it.
People love to hand things out, they love to run
on I'm going to sell you this, or I'm going
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to give you this and give you that, and I'm
going to hand this out to you. But nobody likes
to run on. I'm going to start slashing and burning things.
It's part of why I get frustrated with the Elon
Vivek think it sounds great. I'm all on board, but
it's Congress's job to do these things. I don't need
some tech billionaire to come in. That's why I elected you, dorks.
Speaker 12 (32:43):
And this is why the Senate Majority, the incoming Senate
Majority Leader John Boone and House Freedom Caucus Republicans deciding
they want to punt the tax bill down the line.
It's cowardice and worse than that from a political person effective,
it's dooming them to a certain defeat. So this is
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what's going on right now here in the swamp, the
things that they don't want you to understand.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
So in Congress, the last.
Speaker 12 (33:10):
Time a political party has passed two bills in reconciliation,
that is with just a fifty to fifty vote right
in the Senate. In the House, that was in nineteen
ninety seven, when House Republicans under New Gingrich had a
much larger margin this time around, what they want to
do is they want to pass a border bill that
would probably be only a couple of billion dollars if
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you look at HR two, which was Mike Johnson's border
bill so not super expensive, or Kevin McCarthy's border bill
not super expensive. They want to pass that, and they
want to wait on the tax bill. Well, what's going
on with the tax bill? So Donald Trump's individual tax
cut provisions from twenty seventeen are due to expire at
the end of next year. So if you wait to
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punt that bill and you don't actually get those tax
cuts extended, not only have you not cut taxes, which
is what has of all Americans said should be prioritized
in a New Fox newspool, but also you just increase
the taxes of sixty two percent of Americans at the
beginning of a midterm year. And to your point about
spending cut, I completely agree that we every tax cut
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has to be paid for. But we have so much
low hanging fruit that this is the opportunity to do it.
Extending those individual provisions or maybe two trillion dollars. It's
very easy, without even going into what we could undo
from Biden administration. So the salt deduction, that is the
state and local tax deduction, which allows wealthy people in
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blue states with no fiscal responsibility to deduct ten thousand
dollars of the state and local taxes that they owe
to Gavin Newsom, or to Gretchen Whitmer, or to you know,
Kathy Hochel. What we could do is we could just
eliminate that Trump caped it at ten at ten thousand dollars,
we could eliminate it. We could also eliminate the mortgage
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interest rate deduction, which means which makes it so way
if you are a wealthy person with a you know,
seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars mortgage, you can write
off and deduct some of that.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
We could eliminate this as well.
Speaker 12 (35:09):
And other economists have showed that if you eliminate that,
it increases the supply of housing, and we currently have
a housing crisis. Instead, Blue state Republicans want.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
To increase these deductions.
Speaker 12 (35:20):
So we have these easy ways of paying for the
individual tax cuts, and instead you have Rhino Republicans that
want to increase these deductions.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Tiana, how do we change this? The American people went
out and they've clearly rejected what they saw over the
last four years this November. But you and I both
know how this works. And people get caught up in
presidential mania and Maga this and Trump that. But then
now that we won that, that enthusiasm has historically waned
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to put it mildly come the mid term elections. When
it comes primary season, all that mega energy just kind
of goes to college football or whatever's going on at
the time. How do we change that.
Speaker 12 (36:07):
This is an opportunity for Republicans to spend their political
capital on something lasting.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
You know, Nancy Pelosi knew that she.
Speaker 12 (36:15):
Was making half of her caucus walk the plank when
they passed Obamacare, and they did right. Republicans then blew
out the House after Democrats forced in Obamacare, but Obamacare
is still the law of the land.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Sometimes that's what political capital exists for.
Speaker 12 (36:30):
And if you get one big bill, if you get
one big bill that increases border funding, but more importantly,
more than the funding, everyone knows, it's just reallocating the
resources that are already there to construct the wall and
mandate more deportations and stop the bogus asylum claims. If
you include that by making and including the individual tax cuts,
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making them permanent, making wealthy blue states pay for them
in the form of eliminating these two deductions I've talked about,
then you can go into the grab bag of reversing Bidenomics.
Right there's according to the non partisan, read left leaning
Consumer Committee for Responsible Federal Budget, they pint out three
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trillion dollars in offsets that Republicans can use in just
overturning Biden's executive actions and repealing the inflation Reduction Acts,
green energy subsidies. So we could get a deficit reducing
bill that is better than anything that's on the table
right now. But it's because they just want an easy win.
That's what everyone's saying. That's what Fun is saying, That's
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what the House Freedom Caucus is saying. And so you
know sometimes with House Freedom Caucus, they like to dress
up in maga, put on the hat.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
But when push comes to shove.
Speaker 12 (37:45):
You just want to pass an easy bill and you
don't want to do the hard work of telling Blue states, no,
we're gonna make your residents pay their fair share.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
And you know what if that results.
Speaker 12 (37:53):
In an at tax increase because they need to pay
the bill for Gavin Newsom that they've been voting for.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Tough, Tianna, you're the best come back soon, all right? No,
not light in the mood. There's nothing light about this.
I'm gonna give you some final thoughts next. All right,
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So I know that was a lot a lot of
this is what we want and probably not gonna get
as much. This is what we want, We're probably not
gonna get as much. I know that. I know that.
But it's important that we understand, as we've talked about
so many times on this show, that saving a country
is not an event. It is a process. We didn't
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save the country when we won the election in November.
That was a very important battle to win. We wanted
it was good and we are going to do good
with it. But all is not saved now. We have
a thousand battles still to fight. That is not me
trying to bring you down. It's me talking to me
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and you trying to let's be realistic about things. We
all I certainly have done this. Maybe you've done this
as well. Have had a moment where you're thinking, Oh, man,
how great is it gonna be once we deport thirty
million people and the costs of everything goes down, If
the schools will be better, in the hospitals and the
how I've had that thought, Oh, how great is it
gonna be when cash Patel and Pam BONDI go in
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and start wiping out people with the DOJ and FBI
and just firing everybody and wiping out entire departments and
arresting people. I've had these thoughts, how greats are gonna
be when Elon Musk and Vivet get in there and
they take a chainsaw to the federal government. I've had
these thoughts. I've been there. It's not gonna happen in
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that way. We can do a lot of good. I
hope we do. I believe we will, but let's make
sure we know we're not going to get everything on
that wish list. All right, all right, we'll do it again.
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