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January 21, 2025 46 mins

President Donald J. Trump is back in the White House after four years of Joe Biden. Jesse Kelly reacts to the big inauguration and discusses what's next with Mark Krikorian and Josh Hammer. Jesse also reviews Joe Biden's worst moments from his presidency, including the last-minute pardons of family members and friends. 

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Trump, do solemnly swear.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I, Donald John Trump, do solemnly.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Swear that I will faithfully execute.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
That I will faithfully execute the office of President of
the United States, the.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Office of President of the United States.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
And will to the best of my ability.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
And will, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect
and defend, reserve, protect, and defend.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
The Constitution of the United States.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
The Constitution of the United States.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
So help me, God, So help me God. Congratulations particularity,
pretty great moment today.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
I will tell you in the Kelly household today and
it runs the game when it comes to Donald Trump
himself and the Kelly household.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
We'll talk about extended family.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
There are Trumps paper fans, those who are very skeptical.
But every single person today, clapping, cheering, every single person today,
myself could be a Trump skeptic at times are saying
this feels good. It feels like a weight has been

(01:19):
lifted off, right, And I just thought it would be
appropriate on this wonderful day today, first of all, to
let you know it's okay to feel good, feel good.
We're even look, we're going to talk about Joe Biden
and what that evil jerk did here in a little bit,
but just today for the most part. Just like I
told you after election Day, there aren't a lot of

(01:42):
days in politics if you're on the right where things
feel good.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Feel good today, feel hopeful.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Today, did all the problems get solved?

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Of course not. You know that you're not a child.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
But man, we are in such better hands now that
we have been for the last four years.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
We are.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
We're looking good. Okay, feel good, feel hopeful. I promised
tomorrow the problems we'll get here, I swear they will.
Today feel good about it. And I thought it would
be appropriate to do just a little miniature walk down
memory lane, maybe make us all feel a little better.

(02:25):
Donald Trump, he already was president. He's president, very good
one for about three years.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Then COVID came. He lost his mind. We locked down
the country.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
The Democrats stole an election, and then Joe Biden walked
into the White House, and Joe Biden, who will get
into in a little while, Joe Biden was probably the
worst we've ever had, handed the country over to communists.
And for four years we watched this government declare war
on the American people, on.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
All that is right, on all that is good.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Locking up their political opponents pro life January six ers,
people rotting in jail because of the evil things they did.
And finally we had an election coming up, the twenty
twenty four election, and the poll numbers started looking good,
look like Donald Trump was well on his way to
being the next president of the United States of America.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
And then after they.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Had arrested him bugshots, convicted him of felonies, the works.
Then the Supreme Court stepped in and said, hey, this
is way out of line. He's got immunity for most
of these things. And right after that moment, when they
decided he had immunity, they tried to kill him.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Donald Trump talked about it today.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Those who wished to stop our cause have tried to
take my freedom, and indeed to take my life just
a few months ago in a beautiful Pennsylvania field and
assassin's bullet ripped through my ear. But I felt then,
and believe even more so now, that my life was

(04:01):
saved for a reason. I was saved by God to
make America great again.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Think about that. Prew on what he just said for
a minute. Why are we here today feeling hopeful? Adults
back in charge? Two inches? Donald Trump turns his head
at the exact right moment, and that's the reason we're
here today. If he does not, if he does not

(04:52):
turn to look at an immigration board that Senator Ron
Johnson had given him, If he doesn't turn at that
exact moment, that a and did everything right, the recon
the location, he made the shot, at the time it
was time to make the shot. If Donald Trump doesn't turn,
his brains are on that stage, and where are we

(05:13):
today as a country? I have no idea, You have
no what happens after that? Does Joe Biden stay in
the race. Potentially maybe they steal another one. Do we
go scrambling looking for someone else? Remember Donald Trump, he
wasn't the nominee yet, but the primary was already over.
Now we have to start one up again. Does it

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result in violence in the streets between the two sides,
That's very, very common when one side assassinates the leader.
Where are we today versus where we are now? If
that bullet hits two inches away, and yet God did
spare him, and here we are, and already he's going

(05:57):
to begin. He has already begun. The executive order came
down immediately as promised. Already he's begun to unwind the
assault on this country by Democrats. Democrats are now communists,
and wherever they can, they destroy whatever they can possibly touch.
It doesn't matter if it's the education system, if it's

(06:19):
the energy sector. Whatever they can get their hands on,
they will destroy. They are an evil communists or evil.
They're destructive, they're demonic. It's of the devil and whatever
they touch, they ruin. And part of the reason you've
watched your energy costs go through the roof. Now you
WinCE every time you open your power bill is because
Democrats declared war on the energy sector.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Immediately Today that changes.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Today I will sign a series of historic executive orders.
With these actions, we will begin the complete restoration of
America and the revolution of common sense. It's all about
common sense. We will bring prices down, fill our strategic
reserves up again right to the top, and export American

(07:11):
energy all over the world.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
We will be a rich nation again.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
And it is that liquid gold under our feet that
will help to do it. With my actions today, we
will end the Green New Deal, and we will revoke
the electric vehicle mandate, saving our auto industry and keeping
my sacred pledge to our great American auto workers.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
That's a wonderful speech, a wonderful moment. Again, feel good today. Now,
I know we're going to feel good. We are feeling good.
But it is time to have a discussion. Today is
the day to have this discussion about how we conduct
ourselves going forward as it pertains to the evil people,

(08:17):
the people who have done evil things to us for
the last four years. They didn't just govern like democrats. No, no,
they attacked us at every single turn, every possible way
they could censor, arrest, hurt you. They did four years
doing demon things. Donald Trump talked a bit today about

(08:40):
the weaponization of governments.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Here he was.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
After years and years of illegal and unconstitutional federal efforts
to restrict free expression. I will also sign an executive
order to immediately stop all government censorship and bring back
free speech to America. Our sovereignty will be reclaimed, our

(09:14):
safety will be restored. The scales of justice will be rebalanced.
The vicious, violent, and unfair weaponization of the Justice Department
and our government will end.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
The scales of justice will be rebalanced.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
That sounds good. You like that, But what does that mean? Well,
let's let's let's think about it in this way. You've
seen Lady Justice. You've seen a statue of some kind
of Lady justice. It's always a lady and you've seen
she's always holding this thing. And there's a scale. There's
one side to it and there's another side to it,

(10:00):
and it's supposed to be weighted evenly, so the scale
is even. Okay, that's obviously what we want. That's the
kind of country you want to live in, that kind
of country I want to live in, all right, So
why did they get uneven? It didn't just happen. Why
did they get uneven? Why did you and I live
for the last four years in a country where democrats

(10:22):
abuse the rule of law every place they possibly could? Well,
because evil people grabbed one side of the scale and
tipped it.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
It didn't just happen. It wasn't the wind.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Evil people who have names grabbed it and tipped it. Now,
if you get elected president and we take over it
is one thing. It is a good thing to brush
those evil people off so we can return to balance.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
That's a good thing.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
But what are you going to do with the evil
people who grabbed it and tipped it? It's not enough
to just end what communists have done for the last
four years. The communists who did those things must be punished.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
There has to be justice. If there's not justice, let
me tell you what will come.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Four years from now, maybe eight years from now, maybe
twelve years from now.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
A Democrat will be elected president of the United States
of America.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Again, sad, not what I want, but it will happen.
That's how it goes.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
If there is not punishment for the Democrats who just
did this, then the next time they get elected, they
will do the same thing, if not do worse.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
That's a fact.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
I'm glad we're going to end the weaponization of government.
It was a wonderful, wonderful speech today. Punishment must come now.
There must be a reckoning. I don't care about all
the pardons which we'll talk about. There must be a reckoning.
And I am speaking of reckoning. I am glad in
the very least the people who had their military careers

(12:01):
ended for the fake poison shot.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
At least they're getting some back pay.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
This week, I will reinstate any service members who were
unjustly expelled from our military for objecting to the COVID
vaccine mandate. With full back pain, and I will sign
in order to stop our warriors from being subjected to
radical political theories and social experiments while on duty. It's

(12:29):
going to end immediately. Our armed forces will be free
to focus on their soul mission, defeating America's enemies.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
That's excellent.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Good for Trump, good for you, good for me, good
for the United States of America. Now, I don't think
any of that made you uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
So we're going to talk a.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Little bit abot Joe Biden, and that just might make
you uncomfortable. What an evil piece of trash he turned
out to be to the very end, What a shock.
Before we get to that, let's get to pure talk.
Let's get to your phone. Let's switch your cell phone
service up. You don't need that garbage cell phone company.
Verizon is a horrible company. You're gonna let them get
away with everything they've done.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Go look up Verizon in Black Lives Matter. You proud
of that? At and T T Mobile.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
These companies take your money and they give them to
the most evil, putrid causes. They've contributed as much as
Democrats have to the destruction of this culture. Don't reward
them for that. Switch to pure Talk. You'll save money.
They're on the same network, same service, and you'll get
to support a patriotic cell phone company. You keep your phone,

(13:46):
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Speaker 1 (13:52):
We'll be back.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
It's over, Joe Biden saying farewell to the White House.
Let us set aside our hope for the next four years,
and let's talk about the last four years because it
deserves an analysis. What happened in this country during the
last four years. I'll be very frank with you right now.
It frightens me a great deal. And let me explain

(14:35):
what I mean. I don't think I've ever told you
anything like that before on the show. It frightens me
because what happened during the last four years, the evil
these communists did with their power from Joe Biden, attorney generals,
these prosecutors, that the evil things they did, it's what's

(14:56):
in their heart, it's what they want to do. Those
evil things that were done over the last four years
were done for this reason. Let me explain that this
is what we witnessed. Joe Biden got elected President of
the United States of America.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Got elected.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Okay, but anyway, let's set aside the twenty twenty election.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
But Joe Biden won the election.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
He walks into the White House, except Joe Biden's not
a functional adult. We've known that now forever. Now the
media is finding out, But you and I we've known
that forever. We're the best room. Joe Biden's never been functional.
Old snile week tired Joe Biden. We now know from
people who've said he's signing executive orders he doesn't even

(15:39):
know what they are. So what does that mean? How
did that turn into what happened over the last four years. Well,
Joe Biden as president is always going to keep the worst,
most demonic parts of his party in check. Not because
he cares. Joe Biden's an evil piece of trash himself.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Joe Biden as.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
President, as a Democrat president, he would always want to
keep the animals in check. Hey, you stay within these walls,
and you stay within these walls because it's.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Better for him.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
If I let the animals go too crazy, then I
look bad, then the Democrat Party looks bad. So I'm
always going to as president step in and.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Say no, we're not doing that.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Hold on, no, we're not creating an app that's going
to bring in a million illegals. That's insane. Then we
look bad. No, we're not going to do that. But
that guy didn't exist. You see, he was already an evil, corrupt,
selfish monster when he took over. But now he's a senile, evil, corrupt,
selfish monster without the power or the knowledge to do

(16:41):
those things. So he said there like that for four years.
So who ran the country? Well, who ran the country?
Where his staffers, the people he packed into his administration,
the people packed into the DOJ, packed into the FBI,
And who are those people? The most vile, animalistic, common
in the history of mankind, People who would, without questions

(17:04):
send you and your mother to a work camp and
execute both of you if they thought you were in
the way. That's what's in the heart of the communist.
And that's what the communist has always done.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
And so what our communists did in this country is
they went crazy.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Essentially, Dad, not that he's away, but Dad's a cadaver now.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Sitting every but he's still got the credit card.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
And here you are. You can do whatever you want.
And we spent four years being attacked by these people.
And the reason it frightens me, is this What do
they do when they get another four? You don't see anybody.
You have not to this day seen an ounce of

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contrition from the people who've done these evil acts.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
None of it. We shouldn't have done this, Maybe that
was too far.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
There's been none of that at all. What do they
do when they get another four? And what do we
now have to do in order to try to stop
that from ever happening again? We have to do things
we don't want to do. Do you understand Democrats have
to be arrested, right, Not for being Democrats, We're not

(18:16):
gonna do what they do, but the people who've committed
crimes with their power, they have to be arrested and
tried and sent to prison. That's we're gonna have to
see that. There's the reason Joe Biden is handing out pardons.
That was the big news from today besides the inauguration.
He's pardoning preemptively Mark Milly, Anthony Fauci backdating these pardons,

(18:37):
oh clear, back to fourteen, twenty fourteen, whatever he did
between then and there.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Why do you think they're doing that?

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Because they know they've committed mountains of crimes prosecutable crimes,
and they're trying.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
To stop what must happen. It absolutely must happen, and
it frightens me. What do we do?

Speaker 3 (18:59):
What do we do when these people take power again?
Remember remember what they did for the to the energy
sector alone. They spent the last four years, the savages
within the Democrat Party, attacking every working part of our
energy sector. That's why your power bill is so high.
That's why your gas bills so high. Joe Biden bragged

(19:19):
about it in a speech the communists wrote for him.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Russia's war only enhances the urgency of the need to
transition the world off its dependence on fossil fuels.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
So America is at the start of an historic transition.
But we are accelerating this transition to a clean energy future.
This is not a transition to be feared. It's a
transformation to be seized.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
We're in a transition and transitions are complicated.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
They can find on they can go electric, they can
do heat pumps. Well, this is how you transition.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
They declared war on us. It's not about oil companies.
That's a war on us. These people are all still here.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
What do we do? Remember that speech he gave. I'll
never forget it as long as I live.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
In fact, I'm gonna wrap up this segment with this
because it'll be my lasting memory of the Joe Biden's presidency.
Nothing else to me stood out like him. Standing is
an official address, not a campaign event. An official address.
He stood up with armed marines behind him in uniform,
and he called you the enemy.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represented extremism that threatens
the very foundations of our republic. No matter what the
white supremacist and the extremists say.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
I'll never forget it.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
And I don't have a single kind word to say
to that evil piece of trash on the way out
the door. Joe, Well, this'll come for you one day,
one way or the other two.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Joe out, it'll come in this life.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
You're going to be pardoned and you'll be president now
and you'll live the rest of your two years on
a beach in Delaware.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
But God was watching Joe. All right, Let's move on.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Let's talk about law fair, the pardons, talk about immigration.
Let's talk about sleeping well. I sleep well every single
night no matter what. Now, I've always been a good sleeper.
But the downside of that is When I take something
to sleep, it just kills me. I knock out for
like twenty hours, and I feel horrible.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
When I wake up, I don't feel good.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
I'd rather not sleep except for Beam. Beam changed all
that because Beam is just natural. It's a cup of
hot chocolate with natural things in it, like melatonin. I
sit on a cup of hot chocolate when I'm worried
I'm not going to sleep.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
I pass right out.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
When I wake up, I don't feel groggy and heavy
and miserable.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
I feel rested, like I didn't drink anything.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Shopbeam dot com slash Jesse Kelly is where you can
go get some you want to sleep like a baby
every night.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
No, we'll be back.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
Have you ruled out a pardon for yourself or any
other additional members of the family.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
For myself? Yes, sir, what what I parton myself for?
That's what I'm asking.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
No, I have had no contemplation to pardoning myself in there.
I didn't do anything wrong.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
H man, How times have changed? Joining me now? Josh Camer,
host of America on Trial, author of a book, Israel
and Civilization. I should note Josh Okay, Joe Biden's an
evil communist piece of trash. Everyone has known this for
quite some time. Something I'm very much enjoying is watching

(22:58):
him burn down the Democrat Party's reputation on the way
out the door. I can't get enough.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Of it, Jesse.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
I mean, how many matches do you have to just
set a flame and just throw into a great big
pool of gasolina on your way out the door? I mean,
I mean, it's really just remarkable. I mean, from Friday's
trolling tweet where he basically said, oh yeah, the Equal
Rights Amendment is now the law of the land and
the Constitution. The National Archives was like they were like
what I mean, like that, that's not actually how you feel,

(23:27):
just suppressed it. I mean, I mean, from that to
the flip flop on the Hunter Biden part into now
this fifteen minutes before JD. Van's and Donald Trump put
their hands on the Bible and took that oath of
office fifteen minutes to issue a bide a pardon for
the Biden crime. Faily members five six of them in total.
Going back to the year twenty fourteen, hmm, Jesse, what

(23:49):
happened to the year twenty fourteen? Oh yeah, that's when
Hunter Biden took the Brisma contract. They're not even trying
to hide it. Jesse, this is world's historical scumbaggery. I mean,
this is the kind of stuff that you see in
third world timpod dictatorships.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Oh wait, that's.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Actually what's happened in the past three years as well
when it comes to the law fair prosecuting one's political opponent,
trying to put one's political opponent in jail. Yeah, world
historical scumbag or a timpod dictatorship. So it's nothing new
for Joe Biden. He has been a dirt bank his
entire career. One of the biggest lies in all of
American politics for the past half century is the notion

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that Joe Biden is a good man, hard scrabbled working
class Joe, what a bunch of bolognay. Joe Biden has
been a scumbag ever since he first went to Washington,
d C. In nineteen seventy four, after his first wife
and daughter died in a car accident, he chose to
not stay at home to console Hunter Biden and Bo Biden.
He went straight to Washington, DC to be a center.
He was borking Bob Borke fourteen years after that, in

(24:48):
the late nineteen eighties with Ted Kennedy. He was the
robin to Ted Kennedy's batman. He's been a rotting, stinking,
feeded piece of crap for his entire career. And the
real question that I have now, Jesse, is now that
he's finally done, he is in insinility, he's finally done.
When is the next time that we are going to
see or hear from Joe Biden. I suspect that this
point and might not be until his funeral, to which

(25:09):
I say, thank God.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
I don't disagree with really any of that, Josh. I
do have a question, and I really I don't want
to get heavy on what is a wonderful, hopeful day,
but I can't help but think about it. When I
saw the pardons, when I saw how braised in it all
was can we as a country, can we put Humpty
Dumpty back together again? And if we can, how do

(25:34):
we do that? Because what happens from here, what has
to happen from here, is one of two really.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Really bad options.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Donald Trump can pass some executive orders and of course,
well we're not going to prosecute democrats, but all that
does is convince democrats they can behave like the demonic
animals they are the next time they take power, or
Democrats can start being arrested for the crimes they've committed,
and that in and of itself continues the snowball downward.
How do we put Humpty Dumpty back together again?

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Or can we?

Speaker 5 (26:04):
Jesse, I have to say, I agree with where you're
coming from, and I've actually been a little skeptical, to
be honest with you, when I hear a lot of
people in this incoming administration or friends of the administration
on the outside who are saying that the you know,
they're valing and saying the day of politicize justice and
today look, I am not calling to prosecute democrats. Rather,
here is what I am saying. What I am saying
is that when you have an enemy, a domestic foe,

(26:27):
that is this brazen that just tried to take a
presidential election by trying to put the leading opponents into
jail by bankrupting him, which by the way, they're still doing.
That's the Tiss James case in New York State, the
so called corporate fraud case. That case hasn't gone anywhere
when you have these kind of tactics coming from an
emboldened hegemonic stall on his foe jesse.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
The only way out is through.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
As I've been saying for years and years here, and
what that means when it comes to lawfare is, and
I've been pretty open and blunt about saying this, you
need short term escalation in service of mid to long
term eva quilibrium. Put another way, if a bully is
coming to you and he is throwing these kind of
punches with Joe Biden, Merrick Garland, Jack Smith, Fannie Willis,
they've all been doing this for years now. When a

(27:10):
bully comes to you, you can't just squirm into the
into the corner and say, oh please please, you know
I'm okay now, Like, don't punch me. No, you gotta
throw some punches back. You gotta bloody up some noses.
This is literally kindergarten playground bully school yard logic. Again,
I'm not saying that you prosecute someone for being a democrat.
I am saying that you try to pursue justice. So,

(27:31):
for instance, eighteen US Code Section two forty one is
a criminal statute that criminalizes a conspiracy to deprive your
fellow American citizens of their constitutional rights. Well, to me,
that is exactly what Merri Garland, Jack Smith, Alvin Bragg,
and Fannie Willis have been doing for the past three years.
I would start a special Council investigation today, not tomorrow, today,
to look into possible violation of eighteen US Code, Section

(27:53):
two forty one for all the various tentacles of the
Democrat lawfair complex. It's basic game theory. The only way
out is through short term escalation service of mid to
long term stability.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
I like it. Josh, tell me about these pardons.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Let's get into the nitty gritty lawyer's stuff, which is
obviously your area first and foremost. I'm gonna ask the
most basic lame question, but everyone woke up and asked.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Can he even do this?

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Backdated pardons back to twenty fourteen?

Speaker 1 (28:22):
What does this mean?

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Does this mean Fauci's untouchable, the Bidens are untouchable? Is
this the ultimate get out of jail free card?

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Is that what just happened?

Speaker 5 (28:31):
He probably can. I mean, it's it's unshartered waters. We
have not had these kind of of sweeping, retrospective and
prospective pardons. There are a couple things that come to
minds here that are roughly kind of sort of similar
in the nation's history, but nothing along these lines. I mean,
you know, he really set the ground for this with
the Hunter Biden parton where he not only reversed himself

(28:53):
after seeing that he wouldn't do it approximately one hundred
different times there, but then he did it. And a
maedive retrospective back to twenty fourteen, the same year that
Barisma happened, the Anthony Fauci part, and if I'm not mistaken, Jesse,
I think he basically backdated that until the day that
the United States started investing in the Wuhan Institute of
Virology there with the NIH funding. Funny how that works

(29:14):
as well there, So again people can legally challenge this.
I would not be optimistic on a lawsuit that seeks
to undo these pardons. I think you have to operate
under the assumption that they are indeed valid if you're
trying to go after Anthony Fauch in particular. What that
means is that you have to be a little more
creative at a state level when it comes to a
local DA and maybe in a red county in the

(29:35):
Texas Oklahoma, Panhandle a place like that there. Look for
some state level crimes, Towart statutes, things like that there.
I mean, you'll have to get a little more creative there.
But unfortunately, Jesse, if I'm making a sober legal analytical
prediction here, I think those partons probably do stand.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Josh, let's switch gears here and talk about Donald Trump's
foreign policy. We've already had some hostages Americans returned as
they should have been a very long time ago. He talked, Well,
we talked a bit about foreign policy today.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
My proudest legacy will be that of a peace maker
and unifier. That's what I want to be, a peacemaker
and a unifier. I'm pleased to say that, as of yesterday,
one day before I assumed office, the hostages in the
Middle East are coming back home to their families.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Thank you, Josh.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
What does this mean for that whole miserable mess over there?

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Is it done? No?

Speaker 5 (30:55):
The short answer is no, it's not done. This is
a questionable deal. I think would be a very saying,
and I've actually been pretty critical of the deal since
it was announced. If I'm just being very honest, Jesse,
with your audience here, I think it's not a particularly
good deal for Israel, for the United States, or or
for all enemies of radical Islamic jihad for the very
simple reason. Then when you go about trading thirty three

(31:15):
hostages for two up to potentially been three thousand of
the most hardened, radicalized terrorists, people who are serving life
prison sentences for blowing up children's school bus there, I mean,
what do you naturally incentivize there? You incentivize more jihad,
and you incentivized more taking of hostages.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
There. Part of this is Israel's own fault.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
They made a serious mistake, in my estimation, in the
very very early days of the war when they announced
that retrieval of the hostages was an equal war aim
to defeating Hamas. From my perspective, that was a mistake. Obviously,
you want the hostage to come home, but you can't
lose sight of the fact that destroying Hamas, in my opinion,
should have been really kind of the preeminent single goal
of this particular war. So Israel kind of set themselves

(31:55):
up for this to an extent there. Look, I think
Donald Trump really wanted this moment. He wanted this in
his inauguration speech, he wanted to come the day one
Ronald Reagan Tehran hostage crisis. He wanted the optics of
hostages being freed there. But this is not going to
end the conflicts. In all likelihood, Hamas will violate this
ceasefire one way or the other, and the idea will
probably go back into Gaza within the next three, four

(32:15):
or five six weeks at the very most.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
There.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
Ultimately, Jesse, as you know, none of the jiha to
the Middle least unfortunately, probably comes to an end until
the head of the snake, the Irani regime is dealt
with somewhere or another. I personally am hoping that Donald
Trump very much reprises his policies on a run from
the first time around, where he had his maximum pressure
campaign that almost brought the Molas to the brink of bankruptcy.
Was highly highly effective foreign policy.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
No doubt.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Josh, thank you, my brother as always. Come back soon,
Mark Gregorian. I think maybe he has some things to
say about Trump and the border policy.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
You legal immigration. Let's get the skinny on what's going
to happen there.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
That First, I will declare a national emergency at our
southern border. All illegal entry will immediately be halted, and
we will begin the process of returning millions and millions

(33:16):
of criminal aliens back to the places from which they came.
We will reinstate my remain in Mexico policy. I will
end the practice of catch and release, and I will

(33:39):
send troops to the southern border to repel the disastrous invasion.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Of our country.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Under the orders I signed today, we will also be
designating the cartels as foreign terrorist organizations.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Sounds good. I'm as happy as I am today. I
probably can't match Mark Gregorian, though, I bet you he
was sitting there party popping, party poppers and fireworks joining
me now, Executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies,
Mark himself. Okay, Mark, obviously, congratulations, pretty good day for you.
Now walk us through though these executive orders. Everyone says,

(34:31):
there's a bunch of executive orders and border ones themain
in Mexico pretend like we're all stupid. What are the
individual orders?

Speaker 1 (34:38):
What do they do? What changes today?

Speaker 6 (34:41):
The stuff that's actually changed today, because remember, executive orders
are like instructions. But the things they've done is they've
stopped President Biden's illegal programs to let in to let
illegal aliens schedule their illegal immigration. They actually had such
a thing. That's that CBP one app that people have
talked about literally and something like a million people have

(35:05):
been let in over the past several years under this,
So that's they just stopped that. The media has stories
or of people who had appointments and they've been canceled
and they're disconsolate now, and they're it's like, well, they
should have known this is gonna happen two and a
half months ago.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
What do they think was gonna happen?

Speaker 6 (35:21):
So the National Emergency thing is important because what it
does is it gives the president some leeway to use
military assets at the border. So the point here is
not that there's gonna be guys at the border, you know,
with the machine guns set up and shooting people who
are crossing the border, but they're gonna be using military

(35:42):
for transportation, for surveillance, and for holding people, in other words,
actually detaining people because they the Biden administration cut back
so much on ICE's ability to actually illegal immigrants until
it's time to send them home that they're going to

(36:03):
have to use military assets to do that. The Remain
in Mexico program is for those who aren't familiar with it.
It was for people who are caught illegally crossing the
border and then they make an asylum claim, usually a
bogus one, as a way of getting released into the
United States. Well, the first Trump administration said, yeah, we're

(36:24):
not going to let that keep happening, So they arranged
with Mexico to have people wait for their hearing dates
on the Mexican side of the border. And immediately they
dried up because if they wanted to stay in Mexico,
they just could have stayed in Mexico anyway. So people
stopped making fake asylum claims. There's a couple of issues, though,

(36:45):
a couple of potential land lines. One is will Mexico
agree to the Remain in Mexico program, Because we're sending
them back into their country, they have to agree to it,
and I think the President's going to be twisting arms
and he's already done it, and I think they're going
to agree. The other thing, though, and this was about
the declaring Cartel's terrorist organizations. The danger, potential danger is

(37:09):
that this might give whole swaths of people in Mexico
an asylum claim because they can say they're fleeing persecution
from these US designated terrorist groups. I don't know that
that's the way it works out, but that's a potential landmine,
and I hope they're thinking through this carefully so we

(37:31):
don't end up creating more problems for us than we
already have.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Speaking of the designating Cartel's terrorist organizations, I'm glad you
brought that one up, Mark, because that's one of the
ones that everyone loves it on its surface, right, It's
one of those great applause lies things because nobody's going
to cheer for cartels. Yeah, go get them all. But
they do control half the states of Mexico. They are
firmly ingrained in the communities from which they come. I mean,

(38:02):
these are not singing their praises, but they pave the roads,
they built hospitals down there, and they.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Do do these things.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
So what does this mean as far as US having
a footprint there? What I'm asking, Mark, is are we
going to see Delta force a la Sacario to falling
from the skies to murder Mexicans in their homes.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
I don't know we're gonna see. That's the kind of
thing that could set off real political alarm bells in Mexico.
In other words, even the people who are willing to
cooperate with us might not be able to do that
if we did that. So I don't know. I expect
it's going to be quieter. First of all, it's going

(38:46):
to be involved seizing assets and what have you, financial stuff,
But I don't know. Look, this isn't counter terrorism, isn't
my area, but I expect there will be some relatively quiet,
low profile efforts to actually rub out a few people
as a you know, as a kind of a lesson

(39:07):
to encourage the others. But it's not going to be
something they're going to broadcast live on TV, because the
Mexican government won't will have too much pushback from its
own people. If we're invading and chasing around Mexico, just
like we did one hundred years ago trying to get
Pancho Villa.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Mark switching gears. It's been very, very difficult to keep
a lid on an operation the size of which it
looks like they're planning in New York and Chicago with
these raids.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
It looks like they're going to start on.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Themorrow, which is great, but what do they look like?
How much can you do if the city is resisting.
How much resistance are we expecting?

Speaker 1 (39:48):
What are we looking at? Mark?

Speaker 6 (39:50):
The main thing these sanctuary cities are going to do
is not cooperate. In other words, that they're freedom not cooperate.
The federal government can't make them do that because the
state feder the states aren't part of the federal government.
The states created the federal government. So they can stand back,

(40:10):
but they can't get in the way. If they if
they actually obstruct and you know, block ICE members that
sort of thing, those people will be arrested and they
should be. So what you're gonna see, I think, is
what they call what ICE calls fugitive operations teams, which
are small, you know, highly trained guys who go after

(40:33):
particular bad guys and they know where a lot of
these people live and go and arrest them, and if
they find other illegals or you know, along the way,
arrest them too. So initially you're it's not going to
be mass numbers. It's going to be targeted against really
bad guys, because that's the kind of thing you can
do quickly. But the other thing is not directed at criminals,

(40:57):
but rather directed at work sites, in other words, raids
at a factory, say, or a restaurant where they have
solid intel that they're not just illegals working there, but
that the management knows about it and like gave them
fake IDs. That kind of stuff that you can lock
up employers for, not just get rid of the illegals.

(41:18):
That is that you're going to see bigger numbers of
people involved for those kind of actions. And Tom Homan
the now borders are has pledged that. He said, I
won't give you details, but we're definitely going to be
doing that kind of work site enforcement as well as
the targeted criminal actions mark.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Everyone knows.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Joe Biden throw as many land mines in front of
Trump when it comes to energy as humanly possible on
the way out. Did he do any of this stuff
at Homeland Security to make any of this stuff harder?

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yeah, he did.

Speaker 6 (41:53):
Actually, the one big thing happened, I think it wasn't
It was last week at the beginning of the end
of the week before or he extended the so called
temporary protected status, which is a kind of ostensibly temporary
amnesty for illegal immigrants from certain countries where there's a
natural disaster or civil strife. And these grants of what's

(42:20):
called tps would have expired over the next couple of months.
They extended them and they so they gave they kicked
down the down the road the so called temporary status
of about a million illegal aliens from Venezuela and elsewhere

(42:41):
until October of twenty twenty six, in order to try
to you know, delay things and kind of you know,
run out the clock at least for that share.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Of illegal immigrants.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
The other thing isn't policy related, but Alejandro Majorcus, the
impeached DHS secretary who's out out of a job, gave
apparently some like enormous amount millions of work days of
free of extra vacation time to all kinds of people

(43:12):
in DHS, and they, you know, the lot of the
bureaucrats apparently loved that. I'm not sure if that's something
you can undo. But that's the other thing that really
caught my attention.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Ah, these freaking people, Okay, Mark, just finally delaying the Venezuelans.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Venezuela's the one that sent.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Freaking gangs over here, Trende, Aragua and all the rest
of them.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
What are we supposed to do with these people? That's
a good question. Now there's two points there.

Speaker 6 (43:39):
First is most Venezuelans here didn't come from Venezuela. They
had already been living in Colombia and Peru and Brazil
and other places, and they even had work permits and IDs.
So they only came here because Biden through the borders
open and they said, well, let's trade up. You know,
Colombia's okay, but if we can move to the United States,

(44:01):
that's even better. So that's the first thing is that
these people, most of them, didn't come directly from Venezuela.
But the other thing is what are we gonna do
with these trend to arragu with people because Colombia, for instance,
Let's say Colombia gave asylum to some Venezuelan and it
turns out he was a gang member. They're not gonna
want to take him back. That's gonna be hard to

(44:22):
pressure them to take him back. I think you're gonna
see Trump carrot and stick dealing with Venezuela, and he
might even be willing to sort of ease up on
some sanctions if they will start taking some of their
people back. But in the meantime, we can only hold
them for six months. According to the Supreme Court, if

(44:43):
they haven't. You know, if they've finished their criminal sentences
and we have them in immigration detention, we can't hold
them more than six months if there's no prospect of
their being returned. So the administration this is gonna be
one of their top shelf issues about what to do
with these trend Aragua dirtbags.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
What a friggin mess Mark. As always, thank you, my friend.
Congratulations for you to you, me and everyone else. Has
been a great day. All right, I have some final
thoughts next. All right, we don't have light in the

(45:25):
mood today. We have final thoughts today, and so here
are my final thoughts. First, one of my final thoughts
is you better go subscribe to the YouTube channel YouTube
dot com slash at Jesse Kelly DC. And my other
final thought is this, I feel good today. I feel hopeful.
I know we have a million more battles to fight.

(45:46):
As you and I have talked about a million times,
all is not solved. It's not time to sit back
and enjoy, but it is time tonight to put your
feet up, smile, hug your wife, your husband, and your
kids call you your mom.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
It is better now.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
The federal government, at least from the White house is
no longer going to attack you every single day, and
if nothing else, that is something to smile about.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
All right, we'll do it tomorrow.
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