January 30, 2025 • 43 mins
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has officially testified to the Senate in his effort to become HHS secretary. Jesse Kelly plays the highlights and gives his reaction. Liz Wheeler then joins the show to reveal how Mike Pence is actively working against RFK Jr's confirmation. Jesse is also joined by two FBI whistleblowers, who preview Kash Patel's hearing and give an update on things happening behind the scenes at the FBI. Plus, Congressman Chip Roy goes off on GOP leadership over a looming spending bill.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
RFK Junior had a spicy confirmation hearing today. We'll talk
about that tonight. Liz Wheeler joins us, Chip Roy joins us,
what a show, And I'm right. RFK had a spicy
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confirmation hearing today. And I'm going to get to that
here in just a minute with the questions and the
screaming and the questioning and everything else. But let's just
do a little analogy first, because what we're seeing right
now on a macro level, and this goes beyond America
in Western civilization, what we're seeing right now is people
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looking for a place to trust, looking for institutions to
trust because their old ones violated the trust. So do
a little analogy this way. I want you to picture
you live in a small town, small very remote town,
pretty small place, and in this town there is one
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car dealership, only one, and it's owned by a local family,
and they really have sold all the cars to the
people in that town for the longest time. It's the
local one, it's owned by a family. It's good that
everyone can trust them. It's good to go. And one
hundred miles away there's a big city with all kinds
of dealerships, bad reputation, and so forever, decade after decade
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after decade, your dad, his dad, everybody, everybody goes to
the same local car dealership. But something begins to happen
with the local dealership gets bought out, new family, next generation,
picky or whatever. They start ripping people off, start selling lemons,
not making it right, scamming people out of money, screwing
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them on interest rates. Year after year after year, the
local car dealership starts doing people wrong and taking all
that trust that had been built up for decades and
just throwing it away. And so what will happen? Eventually,
it's inevitable. Eventually the people in that town, they'll start
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making the drive one hundred miles away to the big city.
They're gonna go start start shopping somewhere else. And when
that happens, the people who work at the local dealership,
and maybe some who've been in the town a long time,
you know, their dad bought a car there, they'll start
yelling about it. Why are you driving it? You can't
support the big city. Don't you realize that the scam
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art it's over there in the big city.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Why are you doing it?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I don't understand, But here's the truth. Once trust has
been violated, once credibility has been lost, people will move on.
It is inevitable. And you a you may love or
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you may hate. Whatever they move on to. Who knows
where they'll land. Who knows where they're going to take
their car dealership money. Who knows where they're going to
take it. Maybe it'll be good, maybe it'll be a disaster.
I don't know. But what I do know is the
reason they're taking it anywhere else, the reason they're making
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the drive to the big city is because they were
screwed over time and time again by the local dealership.
And so their car money is now going elsewhere. And
if you're upset that the car money is going elsewhere,
well there's only one place to look if you're looking
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to place blame, it's the local dealership. RFK Junior has
some ideas that are many mainstream, many way outside of
the mainstream. And we'll get to a lot of his
testimony to And I'm not saying I'm an RFK Junior
super fan or anything like that. I most definitely am not.
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I really don't really care about him at all, to
be honest with you, So I don't really care either way,
and I'm not really I'm not really taking a stance
on a lot of his stances. But what I am
saying my message to everybody right now is if the
appeal of RFK Junior confuses you, well, allow me to
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walk you down memory lane.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
You really should, in an indoor setting, a congregate setting,
be wearing masks. It's just the appropriate thing to do
to defect, to protect yourself and your family.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Our data from the CDCs today suggest you know that
that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Bibermectin is something more often used to deworm horses.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
If we really do our part, stay at home, social distance,
then we can flatten our curve even below those projections.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
But it really depends on all of us.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I'm making the personal sacrifices not to infect my parents
and my pregnant daughter. I worry about that because then
it gives people the option to say, well, bars and
restaurants are open. Then I can have twenty people over
for Thanksgiving, and so I don't like it to be
any number. I like it to keep it to your
immediate household.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
That was what one minute long montage and no, I'm
not going to try to do an entire COVID revisionist thing.
But remember the talk we had. If you were watching
I'm right back then, you remember it like it was yesterday.
The talk we had so many times, it was practically
a nightly show on this network, where I would tell
you you only have so much credibility. You're giving away
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the last of it. You are sacrificing the remaining trusts
less and your institution, and once that trust is gone,
well this will go beyond COVID. I talked all the
time about what it meant for our nation as a whole,
for all these institutions to violate our trust. Let me
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ask you something. Are you hesitant about RFK? Fine, that's fine.
Are you critical? Totally fine? You have your opinion about
anybody you want. I don't really care if you are
critical about RFK, whack job, not all these other things
you want to say, Fine, whatever, maybe he is. What
were you saying about COVID, And don't act like it's
a separate issue, because it is most definitely not a
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separate issue. How did you handle your management duties at
the local car dealership, Because if yesterday you were all
wear a mask at your eighteenth booster shot. Oh my gosh,
everyone should be fired. Ah close this calls. And now
today you're saying, this's OURFK guys a nut Why is
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anybody listen to him? Well, you are why people are
listening to him. You if you were one of those
nutballs who destroyed the trust and the medical institutions in
this country, you created the environment for RFK Junior to
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come here. Now let's talk about that trust. Because RFK
Junior said a lot of things today, and of course
there was a lot of screaming and yelling from senators
and maybe have been in all those things. I get
all that. But the most important thing RFK Junior said
today during the confirmation hearing was when he sat down
and he did this. He discussed what it will take
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to earn back that trust. That's the most critical thing,
our institutions becoming trustworthy again and earning back that trust.
And when RFK sat down and talked about opening up
the books, that's how it's done.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
I approach, ajhs I said before senator is radical transparency.
Democrats at licaus ought to be able to come in
and get information that was generated at taxpayer expense that
is owned by the American taxpayer. They shouldn't get redacted
to documents. Public health agencies should be transparent, and if
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we want Americans to restore trust in the public health agencies,
we need transparency.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
Will you commit not to fire anyone in the health
arena who currently works on protecting Americans from cyber attacks
in their healthcare file?
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Will I will commit not firing anybody who's doing their job.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Based on your opinion, based upon your opinion, or your
political agenda, or mister Trump's political.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Agenda, based upon my opinion.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
So I guess that means a lot of the folks
who've had any type of views on vaccines.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Will be out of work. For everything else that was
said today, that was the most important thing. It's what
you've heard me scream about on the television for how long.
Trust is sometimes impossible to earn back. But it's very
very hard to earn it back. And there's only one
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way you can earn it back, only one way, And
up to this point it's been the one thing the
system refuses to do. Open the books, transparency, no more lies,
no more you know, changing the subject, no more accusations
than no, no, no, no, no. Trust has been lost
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in our institutions, including our medical institutions. If you want me, you,
the rest of us to trust again, we will not
be lectured into it. We will not be lied into it,
manipulated into it. You will open up your books government,
and you will show us the things you have done,
and then maybe we can start talking about earning trust
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back again. I mean the pharmaceutical industry alone. Did you
hear this exchange with Elizabeth Warren today?
Speaker 8 (10:05):
You're not going to take money from drug companies in
any way, shape or who me?
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Yes, you, I'm having to commit to that.
Speaker 9 (10:14):
Good.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
That's what I figured.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
I said, It's an easy question to start with, and
I think you're right on this.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I don't think I haven't want to give me money.
Speaker 8 (10:23):
By the way, will you also agree that you won't
take any compensation from any lawsuits against drug companies while
you are secretary and for four years afterwards.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Well, I'll certainly commit.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
That.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Well, I'm secretary, but I do want to clarify something
because you're making me ease like I shall.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
It's just a really simple question. You've taken in two
and a half million dollars. I want to know if
you will commit right now that not only will you
not go to work for drug companies, you won't go
to work suing the drug companies and taking your break
out of that while you're a secretary and for four
years after.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
It's just I'll commit it to not taking any fees
from drug rug companies.
Speaker 8 (11:11):
Well, I'm secretary, I'm I'm asking about fees from suing
drug companies. Will you agree not to do that?
Speaker 6 (11:20):
You're asking me to not sue drug company.
Speaker 8 (11:23):
No, I'm not going to agree with companies as much.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Why would Elizabeth Warren choose that line of questioning, Well,
people have been digging into it today. It's pretty open.
You know, campaign donations are open. You know how many
millions of dollars Elizabeth Warren has taken from the medical
institutions of this country to keep her campaign coffers full. See,
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if you're upset about RFKG Junior, maybe you're happy about
RFKG Union. It doesn't really matter. But the important thing
is that you understand the appeal of somebody like RFK Junior.
Why is there that appeal? Why are people driving one
hundred miles now to shop at a new car dealership.
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It's because the local dealership took all those years of
trust and tossed it in the waste basket, and now
people are looking for something else. Human beings are designed,
We are created. We will put our trust somewhere. If
you violate it, we will take it back and we'll
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Speaker 6 (13:40):
I'll comply with all the ethical guys, that's not the
question you and I you have.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
You're asking me. You're asking me not to serve a copy.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
Yeah you are, That's exactly what you're doing.
Speaker 8 (13:55):
Look, no one should be fooled here. I ters Robert
Kennedy will have the power to undercut vaccines and vaccine
manufacturing across our country. Kids might die, but Robert Kennedy
can keep cashing in.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Senator.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
I support vaccines. I support the childhood schedule.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
It was a wild day to day. I can't wait
to hear what Liz has to say about all this nonsense.
Joining me now, host of The Great Liz Wheelers Show
and noted health freak Liz Wheeler. Okay, Liz, I can't
wait to hear your thoughts. Oh yeah, By the way,
she wrote a great book called Hide Your Children, which
I would recommend my wife love that book. Liz, Okay,
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what was going through your head today? I know you're
weird vegan type as you watched RFK Junior take on
these senators.
Speaker 9 (14:54):
I did.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
I have so much energy for the show because I
drank my sixty ounces of spinnetch shit for breakfast this morning, so.
Speaker 9 (15:01):
I'm rare to go today. Jesse you are welcome, Elizabeth Warren.
Can't you just picture.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Elizabeth Warren though, as a four year old like kicking
and screaming in the grocery store, her arms and legs
on the floor, being like, no, I will not give
back the nickel I took, Daddy.
Speaker 9 (15:17):
She's just she is. I think the most obnoxious.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Senator listen the entire US Senate. If this has not
been clear before, it was made crystal clear today, And
I think that might be the biggest takeaway from the hearing.
The United States Senate is the most intolerable place on earth.
Speaker 9 (15:31):
It is filled to the brim.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
With self serving, self obsessed, slimy, snobby, elitist senators who
craved the sound of their own voices. They had the
opportunity to ask Robert F. Kennedy Junior anything they wanted
in the world, anything, and the majority of them chose
to just listen to their own list of people that
they know and things that they care about in the
state that they're from.
Speaker 9 (15:54):
It was so obnoxious and.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
So crystal clear that every single person in that esteemed
body is.
Speaker 9 (16:02):
Bought off by big Farmer.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
They didn't give Bobby a chance to answer because they
don't want to know the answer.
Speaker 9 (16:06):
They don't want to know the truth.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
They don't want to know the reality of what's happened
to you and your children after vaccines, your autoimmune disorders,
your infertility struggles, your cancer, your.
Speaker 9 (16:15):
Obesity, your diabetes. They don't care. They don't care about
you at all.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
All they care is about filling their pockets with big
pharma and big food money. And that was the biggest
takeaway from the hearing today.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Liz. First of all, we'll actually come back to the
vaccines and the health stuff. It amazes me that Democrats
still let Elizabeth Warren lead really on anything, because everyone
hates feminists, even other feminists hate feminists. The bug eye,
crew cut, nasty, loud woman is not appealing to anybody
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on this planet. And yet they let this woman take
over these Senate hearings all the time. For a party
that has a branding problem, I'd call that a mistake.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Their part to me is well, first of all, ironic
that this was in the Senate Finance Committee. I have
no idea why the HH secretary was in the Senate
Finance Committee, but ironic because of all the big pharm
of money that's bought off these people. But it's weird
to me that the Democrats let Elizabeth Warren play such
a prominent role in their party because she has a
recipe in a cookbook called Pow Wow Chow. What happened
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to cultural appropriation? What happened about lying about being a minority?
How could you possibly let this white woman try to
steal your identity and your legacy and your victimhood, And
yet they just conveniently ignore that when it's Elizabeth Warren.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I'd almost forgotten about Pow Wow Chow. Gosh. That freakin
murders me. Okay, back to back to the things RFK
said today and the things the senators said today. What
do we do about this confirmation process? Liz? I understand
it's constitutional, and I'm not all about kings and things
like that, but as you pointed out, it's just one
big fundraising effort where they get on television and they
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scramble and scream and they try to get the emails
prepped up. I'd send fifty dollars to help Elizabeth Bourne.
And it's awful, and honestly, it makes the country look awful.
The whole thing kind of is gross, isn't it.
Speaker 9 (18:10):
I don't think the process is the problem. I think
the people are the problem. It's not.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
The idea of subjecting cabinet level nominees to questioning by
senators is a good idea. There's a there's a transparency
to that that I like. My problem is with these senators.
I mean, it's incumbent on you today to pick up
your phone and call your US senator. They're there to
represent you, and tell them, in no uncertain terms that
to vote yes on confirming RFK Junior to HHS Secretary,
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and you make it very clear, you know, tell them
to walk down to the office door of Senator Joni
Ernst and ask.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
Her how it felt.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Ask her how it felt after she threatened torpedo Pete Hagseth.
Ask her how it felt when the wrath of Mega
was unleashed on her and she felt for the first
time that that big pharm of money or in this sense,
in this case the military industrial complex money wasn't the
most powerful currency, that she was actually in danger of
losing her power, her seat in the US Senate. You
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ask her how that felt, and then you, as a
United States Senator, you sit there and you think about
the fact that that's going to be you that what
President Trump did to the Colombian president is going to
be child's play compared to what's going to happen if
Republican senators defy President Trump.
Speaker 9 (19:18):
On his choice of who to lead.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Ahhs, you will your political career.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
Will be destroyed if you vote against.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
It, and it's incumbent on us Jesse, you and me
and everybody watching the show.
Speaker 9 (19:29):
To make that very clear to the.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
United States Senate, because the only thing they care about
more than money is their own power and narcissism.
Speaker 9 (19:35):
Hearing their own voices echoing in the US Senate.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
One hundred percent true. As I've told you all many
times is they're not leaders. They're mostly gutless, coward losers,
and you have to bull whip them to get them
to do what you want them to do. So never
going to have the guts to actually do any of
these things themselves. Okay, back to the opposition to RFK.
You covered on your show that Mike Pence is leading
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the charge again them what.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Yeah, I don't know if I would call it leading
the charge, but he certainly considers himself to be a
prominent voice and his political group. That's what he does
now that he's been demoted from Vice president. He's leading
a group called Advancing American Freedom, and this group spent
six figures on an ad blitz, an ad campaign targeting
some of the Republican senators that are kind of squishy
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on rfk's confirmation process, and Penn's is trying to convince
them to vote no. Ostensibly, Pence claims because RFK Junior
is pro abortion. Pence of course styles himself as being
pro life, although I don't know how pro life he
actually is, which is despicable. It's despicable for a couple
of reasons. First of all, Bobby Kennedy has promised to
do whatever Trump wants to do when it comes to
abortion and.
Speaker 9 (20:43):
Issues of life.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
When Bobby is HHS Secretary. Bobby's also on you can
see this. You know, he used to be very vocally
supportive of abortion through the ninth month of pregnancy, and
he's not anymore, just like he changed his opinion on Trump.
He used to despise Trump and then he realized that
Trump is one of the greatest leaders that are country
has ever known. His mind is changing. You know, we
should be gracious to people who are actually listening to
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us who were persuading this is what we want people
to do. We should have a little trust in President
Trump that Bobby will be pro life at AHHS. But
also you have to remember when.
Speaker 9 (21:14):
Mike Pence claims that.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
That he cares about whether RFK Junior's pro life, that's
not what it's about. Mike Pence's group Advancing American Freedom
gets money from big pharma. They're just using Mike Pence
as a stooge. He's a big pharma shill just like
the rest of them, and he doesn't care about abortion.
He doesn't care about whether RFK is pro life. He's
just trying to wreck him because he doesn't like RFK
actually looking at vaccine safety because that would hinder the
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profits of the vaccine manufacturers.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
That sounds about right, all right. Finally, Liz Telsey gabber, Look,
I'm worried about o RFK getting through. I'm worried about
Tulsa getting through. I think you're right. I think maybe
these senators will be intimidated enough by us that they'll
feel obligated. But when I see Tom tilli is planting
damaging stories about Pete Heigsith and the Wall Street Journal
right before that nutless loser went and voted yes himself.
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It tells me there's a lot of opposition in the
GOP Senate.
Speaker 9 (22:08):
Yeah, there is.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
I mean, I don't know that these people, these even
Republican senators, are on our side. I think though, that
there's been this title shift in the conservative movement, meaning
you and I and those watching, because we realize that
we have a role to play in this administration that's
very different than any role we've ever played in government before.
That we are not only as important, but actually more
important than our representatives in Congress, and that they are
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they are obligated to do.
Speaker 9 (22:34):
What we want them to do.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
And we have just embraced this role of being the
loud voice, the boss.
Speaker 9 (22:41):
And that's what we are. We're the boss of these
United States senators.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Telling them, you will vote to drain the swamp, you
will vote to put Tulsea Gabbard in the position as
DNI because she was labeled as a terrorist, because she
dared to criticize the Intel community.
Speaker 9 (22:54):
Make these senators fear.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
For their political position, make them understand that they will
be relegan to nothingness in the worlds of politics if
they defy President Trump's choice for Tulsea Gabbard as DNI.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
And let me tell you, Jesse, this works.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
We've not only taken back control of media narrative on
important issues, debunking lies and propaganda coming from the mainstream
media aimed at Trump or Elon Musk, for example, you
know the Nazi salute, We took that down like that.
We've also taken control of our representatives in the United
States Congress. If we just stay vigilant and pick up
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the phone and send that email and tag our senator
on X, it works.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Listen to Liz Wheeler, go bully your local gop or today. Liz,
thank you so much. I appreciate you. All Right, Cash Pttel,
that confirmation hearing is coming. We have a couple FBI
whistleblowers joining us in a moment before we get to them,
I want to switch up your cell phone service. No,
I'm not a technician or something like that. It's just
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They hate the things you care about, and we pay
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confirmation hearing. I should say it, shouldn't say week. It's
been a couple of weeks of this now. But we
have a big one coming up, and that would be
Cash Pattel because his job is going to be to
go clean out the cheka. Joining me now two men
who are much more familiar with what goes on inside
the Hoover building than I am. Brave whistleblowers Steve Friend
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and Garrett O'Boyle. Okay, first of all, Garrett Dick Durbin
came out and surprise, surprise, he's lying about something talking
about Cash, pattel breaking protocol on what is all this?
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Well?
Speaker 10 (25:34):
From my view, and I think from the legal view, Jesse,
it's just a lot of boloney, because five USC. Twenty
three oh three is the federal law that governs whistleblowing
in the FBI, and from a legal perspective, you have
to have a reasonable belief that there's a violation of
any law, rule, or regulation, and abuse of authority grossnessmanagement
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a clear and significant danger to public health. Nowhere in
that law does it mention some anonymous allegation that protocol
was violated. So you know, if this is all they have,
it's really nothing at least from a legal perspective in
my view, and I think they're just surviving on fumes
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at this point.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Steve, let's talk about the smear campaigns. I would expect
that there will be more, and they will be extra vicious,
given how instrumental the FBI has become in protecting the
worst people in this country. But Cash looks pretty clean,
and I mean so far, like Garrett just pointed out,
if this is the best they've got, I mean, how
do you stop him.
Speaker 11 (26:41):
I don't think you can at this point, I mean,
his credentials are impeccable. It's everything that you'd want to
have from somebody at the helm of the checkout to
actually make the demolition that you and I have argued
for into a renovation. The guy comes from a background
not just as a prosecutor, but also as a defense attorney,
which is really significant. He has a healthy appreciation for
the pa that the federal government brings to bear against defendants.
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Also worked into the intelligence space and the national security space,
so all these things bode well for his favorite. Plus,
I think that it is laughable that you have members
of the left who are going to stand in the
way against the first person of color going to take
over at the FBI. I think that any sort of
tact that they take with him will only make him
look more appealing, maybe even drying to make him look political.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Well, look, at least.
Speaker 11 (27:24):
He wears his politics on his sleeve, unlike Chris Fray
and James Comy. Chris Ray who ran the scheme that
the FBI had in order to influence the twenty twenty
president's election to censor the hundred bye laptop, then you
had James Comy oversaw a Crossfire Hurricane also had a
honeypot operation into Donald Trump's campaign in twenty sixteen. At
least we know where we stand with Cash, and that's
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somebody who has a track record of actually going in
and exposing the corruption at the FBI.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Honey pop, that's stuff you only see in movies. Garrett,
did you ever take part in any honeypot stuff? Although
I don't think.
Speaker 10 (27:58):
You would do that well, to be frank, no, sir,
I can't say that I did. And I think another
interesting aspect of this is you got CBS, I think
was the first outlet I saw who reported this quote
unquote whistleblower. And I find it interesting that that suddenly
they're interested in FBI whistleblowers. I've been suspended for just
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a little over twenty nine months now. Steve and I
both got suspended at the same time. I'm still holding on.
I'm technically an FBI employee still, and yet CBS has
never reached out, never said, Hey, you're an FBI whistleblower.
What do you guys have to say? And so it
just is no surprise, but at the same time should
be should be shocking to people that suddenly the legacy
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media is interested in whistleblowers and labeling them whistleblowers without
any type of legal vetting. And it's especially funny because
when Steve and I testified, goodness, this was May of
twenty twenty three, so quite a while ago. Now Wie
Wasserman Schultz came out and straight up said these are
not whistleblower. But again, if you go back to the
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legal outline that I laid out from our federal statutes,
it's pretty clear that we had a reasonable belief of
an allegation of some type of wrongdoing like that. And
even in fairness, let's say this person isn't a whistleblower, Okay,
they still have a right under five UC seventy to
eleven to contact members of Congress. But to conflate the
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issue of some alleged violation of a protocol issue is
vastly different than an allegation that a law is being broken.
And furthermore, this hostage fusion cell or whatever it was
called from the FBI that this person allegedly is whistleblowing from,
they may have different protocols in the CIA or the
State Department or DoD all facets of our government that's
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involved in some type of hostage negotiation and release.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Steve, I'm a little bit frustrated, to put it mildly,
that Pam Bondi is still not been confirmed. Leave it
to the low TGOP to take the most important position
and kick it down the road to last. And I'm
concerned because I understand what's probably taking place inside the
walls of the DOJ and the FBI as we wait
for cash Hotel. These people are preparing, aren't they.
Speaker 11 (30:16):
Steve hundred present they are, And it's interesting to use
the term inside the walls. Like earlier today I got
a photograph from the FBI Academy where they were painting
over on the walls what the core value that the
FBI reports to hold, where they put diversity ahead of
vigorous obedience to the Constitution and so in anticipation of
cash Hotel coming in.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And look, this is completely.
Speaker 11 (30:37):
On the shoulders of the low TGP at this point
they hold the power to actually confirm these nominees, and
yet they've put them off. These hearings, frankly, are completely unnecessary.
All these questions could be submitted in writing, These meetings
could happen behind closed doors. But what it basically boils
down to is a bunch of politicians want to get
on TV, get their seven minutes, hope to get a
viral moment so that they can fundraise and maybe get
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on cable news TV tonight so they can get their
own name idea up and maybe pick up a.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Few extra ex followers.
Speaker 11 (31:06):
It's completely unnecessary. We need to get these vital positions
filled because the Attorney General of the United States, the
director of the FBI, they are the positions that have
the ability to pull back an FBI, a weaponized DOJ,
back and brink and get it onto a correct course
that is objectively good and interested in upholding the rule
of law and protecting the constitution of the United States.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Garrett Trump famously signed an executive order has been talking
about reinstating military people who got kicked out for the
backsman adid all that other stuff, and I applaud him
for that. Question to you, I guess, Steve, everybody have
you heard anything texts, emails, phone calls, rumors that you
and the fellas are going to get made whole in
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some way.
Speaker 10 (31:53):
I've had some conversations with my attorneys within the last
month or so that certainly it seems like a tide
is turning, and it seems like perhaps there will be
a little more interest in a much more rapid resolution
to this preposterous amount of time that I've been hanging
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in limbo. But nothing concrete yet, and I'm okay with that.
I've gone this long, Steve Kyle Marcus, We've all spent
quite a quite a large amount of time just waiting
and trying to fight the good fight. I can make
it a little bit longer, and I'll give I'll give
the current administration a little bit of grace and a
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little bit benefit of a doubt there, because they're still fighting.
They've been fighting subversions since election day, and they're going
to have to continue fighting it. Cash and Pam Bondi
and any of these other cabinet positions and appointees. They're
going to have to fight this type of subversion for
a long time. So I understand if they don't quite
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get to whistle blowing or US whistleblowers right off the bat,
But I'm hopeful that twenty twenty five in a large
way will be a year of vindication for all of
the suspendables.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I'm pulling for you guys, good luck fellas come back soon.
Thank yes, all right, let's talk to Chip Roy. In fact,
I want to ask Chip Roy about that what he's heard.
Let's ask him about what's going on in DC next. Well,
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spending hasn't stopped, hasn't slowed down. And I know we're
all excited right now about the way things are going.
We have mass deportations, confirmations are going through, at least
we hope confirmations we like. Well who things are changing.
I'm happy, you're happy, everyone's happy. However, spending the country
into bankruptcy is still going and apparently the GOP intends
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to keep it going. Joining me now to talk about
that great congressman from the state of Texas, my friend
Chip Roy. Ok, what the hell is going on?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Well, Jesse, good to be on.
Speaker 12 (34:04):
So, so here's the deal and put it in summary form.
The big tension right now among Republicans is what do
we do on the so called reconciliation product? Right, this
is the package that we have to do under the
Budget Control Act to reconcile tax policy and our spending
policy to achieve zero deficit. Now before you laugh, right,
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that's what the law requires. So we're going through that process.
The upside is that you can do it with majority
vote in the House and the Senate. Remind you, Democrats
use this to jam through Obamacare, so we should and
can use this to truly have some transformative change respect
to spending, taxes, and some policies that are embedded in
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those decisions, like healthcare.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
So where are we.
Speaker 12 (34:52):
There's been a debate about one bill versus two bill
that's kind of shiny. The reason that that debate has existed.
I favor two bills is because I want to move quickly.
I want to get the border funded. I want to
get defense funded properly, not through ways, but to give
heggs up when he needs to modernize the military. And
then I want to get cuts to the very upfront
immediate things like, for example, the student loan fiasco, the
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electric vehicle mandates. And then I'm happy to give the
president an increase in the debt ceiling, probably bigger than
I would personally prefer, because I want to give him
the room to go get his job done. Then do
a second bill. I'm taxing and spending. There is a
big debate right now, and we're now focusing on one
big so called beautiful Bill. Well, I'm for a big,
beautiful bill if it actually cuts spending. So this morning,
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I'm told that in Florida. I didn't go there. I
went to Texas to be with my family because my
family needed me to be home, and I knew what
would happen in Florida, which is more of the same.
I'm getting updates and I'm not going to announce them
yet because this was a private meeting. But they're what
you would expect, which is not really big cuts. They
want to issue what's called instructions to the Budget Committee
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to have I'm going to generally characterize barely low numbers
of additional cuts to quote offset what we're going to
have to outlay. With respect to the tax policy, last
point don't mean a filibuster. Republicans have been taught for
forever if tax cuts pay for themselves, I broadly speaking
agree with the notion if you leave money in the
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hands of the of the taxpayers, they will create wealth.
I don't want taxes. I'd like to zero out the
tax code. But if you're going to do that, then
you at least have to do math, because if we
keep printing money, then that's a tax on our future kids,
grain kids, and on our entire.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Ability to exist because of inflation.
Speaker 12 (36:43):
So I'm demanding tax that with the tax cuts we
have spending cuts, we are getting resistance on that and
thus the conflict.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Okay, so break down a couple things for me, Chip,
and You're always welcome to philibuster on this show because
it explains things to us. One, why Florida? What's going
on in Florida? Two, when you're talking about cuts, the
things like electric vehicle mandates, you know, student loan ridiculousness
that seems like bread and butter, easy gop layups. You're
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not asking them to take a hardcore pro life position
or something like that. Why is there any resistance at all? Please?
Speaker 12 (37:23):
Well, I'm not yet sure where the resistance will be
fully on student loans or ev mandates, but what I
do know is they couldn't agree with me and some
of my colleagues who all signed the letter saying we
would do those things, to do it quickly.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
My view was give the president the border funding.
Speaker 12 (37:38):
Now, let's get these people removed, let's get them repatriated,
let's support Tom Homan, and let's do it quickly. Because
the more time that goes on. They're gonna have a
breed of horribles. They're gonna show a picture of somebody
getting removed. It seems sympathetic, and then we're gonna have
a tough time getting that money. But what's really going
on down in Florida is it's a Republican retreat.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
That's fine. I don't know why we have to go.
Speaker 12 (37:59):
Down to a resort in Florida to do that, but fine,
they go to resort, go do that. But I knew
what was going to happen, so I just made a
choice to go be in Texas. But I'm in constant
communication with them. And what's happening right now is they're
putting forward cuts that are pretty small, but yet the
tax amount is pretty significant.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
So what does that mean right now?
Speaker 12 (38:20):
If you look at outside entity's the Congressional Budget Office,
all these other things, and I don't trust any one
of them, per se, they have a cost to the
tax cut. Right Well, let's take child tax credit, Jesse.
Nobody will tell me, and I'm asking everybody in the
in the House representative, will you tell the world that
child tax credits will pay for themselves through economic growth?
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The answer to that is no, is an eight hundred
billion dollar ten year deduction or parents for their kids.
That might be great policy Jesse, but it's not economic productivity.
So you can't go, on the other hand, say, oh,
we don't need to go cut spending to pay for that.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I believe you do.
Speaker 12 (39:03):
So that's all I'm saying. Can we just do math
and we teach our kids to do math. Just put
up a big whiteboard. Let's just put up all of
the taxes on one side, Let's put up all of
the spending on the other side, and let's balance that.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
That's all I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Okay, So can you merge these worlds for me? Chip,
because I hear the Trump administration. Trump is trying to
make these big bull moves like cutting the income tax,
which obviously is music to my ears, music to everybody's ears,
I suppose. But we're talking about cutting income taxes. Great,
sounds good, but they don't want to cut any spending
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in the house. So one of those two things is
never going to happen. Right.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Well, so this is the actual big question.
Speaker 12 (39:48):
So there's a lot of pressure, for good reason, to
make the tax cuts that were put in place in
twenty seventeen permanent. The corporate rates are already permanent. Okay,
let's be very clear. Those we're the big economic engine
in twenty seventeen. The other rates are the ones expiring,
the standard deduction, the individual rates, the child tax credits,
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et cetera. So everybody wants to keep their lower taxes.
They don't want the taxes to go up next December.
I agree. I shared that view. I'm a taxpayer. I'd
like to zero out my tax But are we going
to get spending cuts?
Speaker 2 (40:25):
The answer is no if some of.
Speaker 12 (40:28):
Us don't force the question when tied to the tax cuts,
because the pressure for tax cuts is real high, and
I'm saying, guys, I can't agree to give you your tax
cuts and then expect that tomorrow you're going to deliver
for me the spending cut, because they will never do it.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
So that's the fight we're having right now.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
All right, tell me about China owning farmland here, Chip,
before I let you go.
Speaker 12 (40:55):
Yes, I introduced the bill four years ago to ban
Chinese ownership of any land.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
It's particularly just when it's farm land. But I don't
think it should just be a farm land that we prohibit.
I think it should be all land. Frankly, I don't
think the chi Coom should own any of our significant assets.
Speaker 12 (41:09):
No meatpacking plants, production facilities, certainly not land. We would
never let Nazi Germany own land in America in nineteen
thirty nine or nineteen forty four or after the war,
so I think we should restrict it. Frankly, I might
even go further and introduce the bullinesses, why does any
foreign national own any real estate or land in this country.
I understand that you want capital to flow into our nation,
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but I don't think I want borders owning dirts, even
if they're supposedly our friends, but certainly not the chi COOM.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
So that's what my bill would do.
Speaker 12 (41:39):
I've reintroduced it now for the think third Congress, and
I think we need to act on it.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
I don't think this is that hard.
Speaker 12 (41:45):
It's our national security interest, and it's frankly, I think
sensible policy.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
I agree Congressman, as always, thank you, come back soon,
Please keep fighting. All right, we have a special tomorrow
speaking of the MS on the Chicoms China. What's going
on over there? What are we doing about it? You're
gonna want to touch that anyway before we get to
that we have light in the mood. Next all it
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is time to lighten the mood. And you know now
we do things on the show lighten the mood after
all the heavy news and immigration and spending and confirmation hearings.
Lighten the mood is supposed to lift you up. You
are supposed to rise. That's what Chuck Humber wants.
Speaker 13 (42:38):
To People are aroused. I haven't seen people so aroused
in a very very long time in terms of going
trying to get this done. So yes, I think democracy
will have an effect and we are going to keep
at it. People are aroused. I haven't seen people so
aroused in a very very long time in terms of
going right to have this done. So yes, I think
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democracy will have an effect and we are going to
keep out
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Lacedemo
RFK Junior had a spicy confirmation hearing today. We'll talk
about that tonight. Liz Wheeler joins us, Chip Roy joins us,
what a show, And I'm right. RFK had a spicy
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confirmation hearing today. And I'm going to get to that
here in just a minute with the questions and the
screaming and the questioning and everything else. But let's just
do a little analogy first, because what we're seeing right
now on a macro level, and this goes beyond America
in Western civilization, what we're seeing right now is people
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looking for a place to trust, looking for institutions to
trust because their old ones violated the trust. So do
a little analogy this way. I want you to picture
you live in a small town, small very remote town,
pretty small place, and in this town there is one
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car dealership, only one, and it's owned by a local family,
and they really have sold all the cars to the
people in that town for the longest time. It's the
local one, it's owned by a family. It's good that
everyone can trust them. It's good to go. And one
hundred miles away there's a big city with all kinds
of dealerships, bad reputation, and so forever, decade after decade
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after decade, your dad, his dad, everybody, everybody goes to
the same local car dealership. But something begins to happen
with the local dealership gets bought out, new family, next generation,
picky or whatever. They start ripping people off, start selling lemons,
not making it right, scamming people out of money, screwing
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them on interest rates. Year after year after year, the
local car dealership starts doing people wrong and taking all
that trust that had been built up for decades and
just throwing it away. And so what will happen? Eventually,
it's inevitable. Eventually the people in that town, they'll start
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making the drive one hundred miles away to the big city.
They're gonna go start start shopping somewhere else. And when
that happens, the people who work at the local dealership,
and maybe some who've been in the town a long time,
you know, their dad bought a car there, they'll start
yelling about it. Why are you driving it? You can't
support the big city. Don't you realize that the scam
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art it's over there in the big city.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Why are you doing it?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I don't understand, But here's the truth. Once trust has
been violated, once credibility has been lost, people will move on.
It is inevitable. And you a you may love or
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you may hate. Whatever they move on to. Who knows
where they'll land. Who knows where they're going to take
their car dealership money. Who knows where they're going to
take it. Maybe it'll be good, maybe it'll be a disaster.
I don't know. But what I do know is the
reason they're taking it anywhere else, the reason they're making
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the drive to the big city is because they were
screwed over time and time again by the local dealership.
And so their car money is now going elsewhere. And
if you're upset that the car money is going elsewhere,
well there's only one place to look if you're looking
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to place blame, it's the local dealership. RFK Junior has
some ideas that are many mainstream, many way outside of
the mainstream. And we'll get to a lot of his
testimony to And I'm not saying I'm an RFK Junior
super fan or anything like that. I most definitely am not.
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I really don't really care about him at all, to
be honest with you, So I don't really care either way,
and I'm not really I'm not really taking a stance
on a lot of his stances. But what I am
saying my message to everybody right now is if the
appeal of RFK Junior confuses you, well, allow me to
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walk you down memory lane.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
You really should, in an indoor setting, a congregate setting,
be wearing masks. It's just the appropriate thing to do
to defect, to protect yourself and your family.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Our data from the CDCs today suggest you know that
that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Bibermectin is something more often used to deworm horses.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
If we really do our part, stay at home, social distance,
then we can flatten our curve even below those projections.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
But it really depends on all of us.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I'm making the personal sacrifices not to infect my parents
and my pregnant daughter. I worry about that because then
it gives people the option to say, well, bars and
restaurants are open. Then I can have twenty people over
for Thanksgiving, and so I don't like it to be
any number. I like it to keep it to your
immediate household.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
That was what one minute long montage and no, I'm
not going to try to do an entire COVID revisionist thing.
But remember the talk we had. If you were watching
I'm right back then, you remember it like it was yesterday.
The talk we had so many times, it was practically
a nightly show on this network, where I would tell
you you only have so much credibility. You're giving away
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the last of it. You are sacrificing the remaining trusts
less and your institution, and once that trust is gone,
well this will go beyond COVID. I talked all the
time about what it meant for our nation as a whole,
for all these institutions to violate our trust. Let me
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ask you something. Are you hesitant about RFK? Fine, that's fine.
Are you critical? Totally fine? You have your opinion about
anybody you want. I don't really care if you are
critical about RFK, whack job, not all these other things
you want to say, Fine, whatever, maybe he is. What
were you saying about COVID, And don't act like it's
a separate issue, because it is most definitely not a
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separate issue. How did you handle your management duties at
the local car dealership, Because if yesterday you were all
wear a mask at your eighteenth booster shot. Oh my gosh,
everyone should be fired. Ah close this calls. And now
today you're saying, this's OURFK guys a nut Why is
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anybody listen to him? Well, you are why people are
listening to him. You if you were one of those
nutballs who destroyed the trust and the medical institutions in
this country, you created the environment for RFK Junior to
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come here. Now let's talk about that trust. Because RFK
Junior said a lot of things today, and of course
there was a lot of screaming and yelling from senators
and maybe have been in all those things. I get
all that. But the most important thing RFK Junior said
today during the confirmation hearing was when he sat down
and he did this. He discussed what it will take
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to earn back that trust. That's the most critical thing,
our institutions becoming trustworthy again and earning back that trust.
And when RFK sat down and talked about opening up
the books, that's how it's done.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
I approach, ajhs I said before senator is radical transparency.
Democrats at licaus ought to be able to come in
and get information that was generated at taxpayer expense that
is owned by the American taxpayer. They shouldn't get redacted
to documents. Public health agencies should be transparent, and if
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we want Americans to restore trust in the public health agencies,
we need transparency.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
Will you commit not to fire anyone in the health
arena who currently works on protecting Americans from cyber attacks
in their healthcare file?
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Will I will commit not firing anybody who's doing their job.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Based on your opinion, based upon your opinion, or your
political agenda, or mister Trump's political.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Agenda, based upon my opinion.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
So I guess that means a lot of the folks
who've had any type of views on vaccines.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Will be out of work. For everything else that was
said today, that was the most important thing. It's what
you've heard me scream about on the television for how long.
Trust is sometimes impossible to earn back. But it's very
very hard to earn it back. And there's only one
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way you can earn it back, only one way, And
up to this point it's been the one thing the
system refuses to do. Open the books, transparency, no more lies,
no more you know, changing the subject, no more accusations
than no, no, no, no, no. Trust has been lost
(09:34):
in our institutions, including our medical institutions. If you want me, you,
the rest of us to trust again, we will not
be lectured into it. We will not be lied into it,
manipulated into it. You will open up your books government,
and you will show us the things you have done,
and then maybe we can start talking about earning trust
(09:58):
back again. I mean the pharmaceutical industry alone. Did you
hear this exchange with Elizabeth Warren today?
Speaker 8 (10:05):
You're not going to take money from drug companies in
any way, shape or who me?
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Yes, you, I'm having to commit to that.
Speaker 9 (10:14):
Good.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
That's what I figured.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
I said, It's an easy question to start with, and
I think you're right on this.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I don't think I haven't want to give me money.
Speaker 8 (10:23):
By the way, will you also agree that you won't
take any compensation from any lawsuits against drug companies while
you are secretary and for four years afterwards.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Well, I'll certainly commit.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
That.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Well, I'm secretary, but I do want to clarify something
because you're making me ease like I shall.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
It's just a really simple question. You've taken in two
and a half million dollars. I want to know if
you will commit right now that not only will you
not go to work for drug companies, you won't go
to work suing the drug companies and taking your break
out of that while you're a secretary and for four
years after.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
It's just I'll commit it to not taking any fees
from drug rug companies.
Speaker 8 (11:11):
Well, I'm secretary, I'm I'm asking about fees from suing
drug companies. Will you agree not to do that?
Speaker 6 (11:20):
You're asking me to not sue drug company.
Speaker 8 (11:23):
No, I'm not going to agree with companies as much.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Why would Elizabeth Warren choose that line of questioning, Well,
people have been digging into it today. It's pretty open.
You know, campaign donations are open. You know how many
millions of dollars Elizabeth Warren has taken from the medical
institutions of this country to keep her campaign coffers full. See,
(11:53):
if you're upset about RFKG Junior, maybe you're happy about
RFKG Union. It doesn't really matter. But the important thing
is that you understand the appeal of somebody like RFK Junior.
Why is there that appeal? Why are people driving one
hundred miles now to shop at a new car dealership.
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It's because the local dealership took all those years of
trust and tossed it in the waste basket, and now
people are looking for something else. Human beings are designed,
We are created. We will put our trust somewhere. If
you violate it, we will take it back and we'll
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Speaker 6 (13:40):
I'll comply with all the ethical guys, that's not the
question you and I you have.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
You're asking me. You're asking me not to serve a copy.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
Yeah you are, That's exactly what you're doing.
Speaker 8 (13:55):
Look, no one should be fooled here. I ters Robert
Kennedy will have the power to undercut vaccines and vaccine
manufacturing across our country. Kids might die, but Robert Kennedy
can keep cashing in.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Senator.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
I support vaccines. I support the childhood schedule.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
It was a wild day to day. I can't wait
to hear what Liz has to say about all this nonsense.
Joining me now, host of The Great Liz Wheelers Show
and noted health freak Liz Wheeler. Okay, Liz, I can't
wait to hear your thoughts. Oh yeah, By the way,
she wrote a great book called Hide Your Children, which
I would recommend my wife love that book. Liz, Okay,
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what was going through your head today? I know you're
weird vegan type as you watched RFK Junior take on
these senators.
Speaker 9 (14:54):
I did.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
I have so much energy for the show because I
drank my sixty ounces of spinnetch shit for breakfast this morning, so.
Speaker 9 (15:01):
I'm rare to go today. Jesse you are welcome, Elizabeth Warren.
Can't you just picture.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Elizabeth Warren though, as a four year old like kicking
and screaming in the grocery store, her arms and legs
on the floor, being like, no, I will not give
back the nickel I took, Daddy.
Speaker 9 (15:17):
She's just she is. I think the most obnoxious.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Senator listen the entire US Senate. If this has not
been clear before, it was made crystal clear today, And
I think that might be the biggest takeaway from the hearing.
The United States Senate is the most intolerable place on earth.
Speaker 9 (15:31):
It is filled to the brim.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
With self serving, self obsessed, slimy, snobby, elitist senators who
craved the sound of their own voices. They had the
opportunity to ask Robert F. Kennedy Junior anything they wanted
in the world, anything, and the majority of them chose
to just listen to their own list of people that
they know and things that they care about in the
state that they're from.
Speaker 9 (15:54):
It was so obnoxious and.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
So crystal clear that every single person in that esteemed
body is.
Speaker 9 (16:02):
Bought off by big Farmer.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
They didn't give Bobby a chance to answer because they
don't want to know the answer.
Speaker 9 (16:06):
They don't want to know the truth.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
They don't want to know the reality of what's happened
to you and your children after vaccines, your autoimmune disorders,
your infertility struggles, your cancer, your.
Speaker 9 (16:15):
Obesity, your diabetes. They don't care. They don't care about
you at all.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
All they care is about filling their pockets with big
pharma and big food money. And that was the biggest
takeaway from the hearing today.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Liz. First of all, we'll actually come back to the
vaccines and the health stuff. It amazes me that Democrats
still let Elizabeth Warren lead really on anything, because everyone
hates feminists, even other feminists hate feminists. The bug eye,
crew cut, nasty, loud woman is not appealing to anybody
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on this planet. And yet they let this woman take
over these Senate hearings all the time. For a party
that has a branding problem, I'd call that a mistake.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Their part to me is well, first of all, ironic
that this was in the Senate Finance Committee. I have
no idea why the HH secretary was in the Senate
Finance Committee, but ironic because of all the big pharm
of money that's bought off these people. But it's weird
to me that the Democrats let Elizabeth Warren play such
a prominent role in their party because she has a
recipe in a cookbook called Pow Wow Chow. What happened
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to cultural appropriation? What happened about lying about being a minority?
How could you possibly let this white woman try to
steal your identity and your legacy and your victimhood, And
yet they just conveniently ignore that when it's Elizabeth Warren.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I'd almost forgotten about Pow Wow Chow. Gosh. That freakin
murders me. Okay, back to back to the things RFK
said today and the things the senators said today. What
do we do about this confirmation process? Liz? I understand
it's constitutional, and I'm not all about kings and things
like that, but as you pointed out, it's just one
big fundraising effort where they get on television and they
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scramble and scream and they try to get the emails
prepped up. I'd send fifty dollars to help Elizabeth Bourne.
And it's awful, and honestly, it makes the country look awful.
The whole thing kind of is gross, isn't it.
Speaker 9 (18:10):
I don't think the process is the problem. I think
the people are the problem. It's not.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
The idea of subjecting cabinet level nominees to questioning by
senators is a good idea. There's a there's a transparency
to that that I like. My problem is with these senators.
I mean, it's incumbent on you today to pick up
your phone and call your US senator. They're there to
represent you, and tell them, in no uncertain terms that
to vote yes on confirming RFK Junior to HHS Secretary,
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and you make it very clear, you know, tell them
to walk down to the office door of Senator Joni
Ernst and ask.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
Her how it felt.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Ask her how it felt after she threatened torpedo Pete Hagseth.
Ask her how it felt when the wrath of Mega
was unleashed on her and she felt for the first
time that that big pharm of money or in this sense,
in this case the military industrial complex money wasn't the
most powerful currency, that she was actually in danger of
losing her power, her seat in the US Senate. You
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ask her how that felt, and then you, as a
United States Senator, you sit there and you think about
the fact that that's going to be you that what
President Trump did to the Colombian president is going to
be child's play compared to what's going to happen if
Republican senators defy President Trump.
Speaker 9 (19:18):
On his choice of who to lead.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Ahhs, you will your political career.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
Will be destroyed if you vote against.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
It, and it's incumbent on us Jesse, you and me
and everybody watching the show.
Speaker 9 (19:29):
To make that very clear to the.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
United States Senate, because the only thing they care about
more than money is their own power and narcissism.
Speaker 9 (19:35):
Hearing their own voices echoing in the US Senate.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
One hundred percent true. As I've told you all many
times is they're not leaders. They're mostly gutless, coward losers,
and you have to bull whip them to get them
to do what you want them to do. So never
going to have the guts to actually do any of
these things themselves. Okay, back to the opposition to RFK.
You covered on your show that Mike Pence is leading
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the charge again them what.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Yeah, I don't know if I would call it leading
the charge, but he certainly considers himself to be a
prominent voice and his political group. That's what he does
now that he's been demoted from Vice president. He's leading
a group called Advancing American Freedom, and this group spent
six figures on an ad blitz, an ad campaign targeting
some of the Republican senators that are kind of squishy
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on rfk's confirmation process, and Penn's is trying to convince
them to vote no. Ostensibly, Pence claims because RFK Junior
is pro abortion. Pence of course styles himself as being
pro life, although I don't know how pro life he
actually is, which is despicable. It's despicable for a couple
of reasons. First of all, Bobby Kennedy has promised to
do whatever Trump wants to do when it comes to
abortion and.
Speaker 9 (20:43):
Issues of life.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
When Bobby is HHS Secretary. Bobby's also on you can
see this. You know, he used to be very vocally
supportive of abortion through the ninth month of pregnancy, and
he's not anymore, just like he changed his opinion on Trump.
He used to despise Trump and then he realized that
Trump is one of the greatest leaders that are country
has ever known. His mind is changing. You know, we
should be gracious to people who are actually listening to
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us who were persuading this is what we want people
to do. We should have a little trust in President
Trump that Bobby will be pro life at AHHS. But
also you have to remember when.
Speaker 9 (21:14):
Mike Pence claims that.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
That he cares about whether RFK Junior's pro life, that's
not what it's about. Mike Pence's group Advancing American Freedom
gets money from big pharma. They're just using Mike Pence
as a stooge. He's a big pharma shill just like
the rest of them, and he doesn't care about abortion.
He doesn't care about whether RFK is pro life. He's
just trying to wreck him because he doesn't like RFK
actually looking at vaccine safety because that would hinder the
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profits of the vaccine manufacturers.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
That sounds about right, all right. Finally, Liz Telsey gabber, Look,
I'm worried about o RFK getting through. I'm worried about
Tulsa getting through. I think you're right. I think maybe
these senators will be intimidated enough by us that they'll
feel obligated. But when I see Tom tilli is planting
damaging stories about Pete Heigsith and the Wall Street Journal
right before that nutless loser went and voted yes himself.
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It tells me there's a lot of opposition in the
GOP Senate.
Speaker 9 (22:08):
Yeah, there is.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
I mean, I don't know that these people, these even
Republican senators, are on our side. I think though, that
there's been this title shift in the conservative movement, meaning
you and I and those watching, because we realize that
we have a role to play in this administration that's
very different than any role we've ever played in government before.
That we are not only as important, but actually more
important than our representatives in Congress, and that they are
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they are obligated to do.
Speaker 9 (22:34):
What we want them to do.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
And we have just embraced this role of being the
loud voice, the boss.
Speaker 9 (22:41):
And that's what we are. We're the boss of these
United States senators.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Telling them, you will vote to drain the swamp, you
will vote to put Tulsea Gabbard in the position as
DNI because she was labeled as a terrorist, because she
dared to criticize the Intel community.
Speaker 9 (22:54):
Make these senators fear.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
For their political position, make them understand that they will
be relegan to nothingness in the worlds of politics if
they defy President Trump's choice for Tulsea Gabbard as DNI.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
And let me tell you, Jesse, this works.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
We've not only taken back control of media narrative on
important issues, debunking lies and propaganda coming from the mainstream
media aimed at Trump or Elon Musk, for example, you
know the Nazi salute, We took that down like that.
We've also taken control of our representatives in the United
States Congress. If we just stay vigilant and pick up
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the phone and send that email and tag our senator
on X, it works.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Listen to Liz Wheeler, go bully your local gop or today. Liz,
thank you so much. I appreciate you. All Right, Cash Pttel,
that confirmation hearing is coming. We have a couple FBI
whistleblowers joining us in a moment before we get to them,
I want to switch up your cell phone service. No,
I'm not a technician or something like that. It's just
(23:56):
we have to stop funding these companies who hate us.
We have to be purposeful with where we spend and
don't spend our money. We have to put our money
where our morals are. Believe me, you don't share morals
with at and TT Mobile or Verizon. These companies hate you,
They hate the things you care about, and we pay
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them to do the damage they do. That's wild, especially
when we don't have to because pure Talk is there.
They're on the same five G network, so you're not
gonna be dropping calls. Oh my gosh, pure Talk's on
the same network. I pay half of what I used
to pay. Pure Talk loves this country. They're a CEO
fought for this country in the jungles of Vietnam. They
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hire Americans. Pure Talk dot com slash jessetv go. Switch
takes five ten minutes. Switch, we'll be back. Well, it's
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confirmation hearing. I should say it, shouldn't say week. It's
been a couple of weeks of this now. But we
have a big one coming up, and that would be
Cash Pattel because his job is going to be to
go clean out the cheka. Joining me now two men
who are much more familiar with what goes on inside
the Hoover building than I am. Brave whistleblowers Steve Friend
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and Garrett O'Boyle. Okay, first of all, Garrett Dick Durbin
came out and surprise, surprise, he's lying about something talking
about Cash, pattel breaking protocol on what is all this?
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Well?
Speaker 10 (25:34):
From my view, and I think from the legal view, Jesse,
it's just a lot of boloney, because five USC. Twenty
three oh three is the federal law that governs whistleblowing
in the FBI, and from a legal perspective, you have
to have a reasonable belief that there's a violation of
any law, rule, or regulation, and abuse of authority grossnessmanagement
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a clear and significant danger to public health. Nowhere in
that law does it mention some anonymous allegation that protocol
was violated. So you know, if this is all they have,
it's really nothing at least from a legal perspective in
my view, and I think they're just surviving on fumes
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at this point.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Steve, let's talk about the smear campaigns. I would expect
that there will be more, and they will be extra vicious,
given how instrumental the FBI has become in protecting the
worst people in this country. But Cash looks pretty clean,
and I mean so far, like Garrett just pointed out,
if this is the best they've got, I mean, how
do you stop him.
Speaker 11 (26:41):
I don't think you can at this point, I mean,
his credentials are impeccable. It's everything that you'd want to
have from somebody at the helm of the checkout to
actually make the demolition that you and I have argued
for into a renovation. The guy comes from a background
not just as a prosecutor, but also as a defense attorney,
which is really significant. He has a healthy appreciation for
the pa that the federal government brings to bear against defendants.
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Also worked into the intelligence space and the national security space,
so all these things bode well for his favorite. Plus,
I think that it is laughable that you have members
of the left who are going to stand in the
way against the first person of color going to take
over at the FBI. I think that any sort of
tact that they take with him will only make him
look more appealing, maybe even drying to make him look political.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Well, look, at least.
Speaker 11 (27:24):
He wears his politics on his sleeve, unlike Chris Fray
and James Comy. Chris Ray who ran the scheme that
the FBI had in order to influence the twenty twenty
president's election to censor the hundred bye laptop, then you
had James Comy oversaw a Crossfire Hurricane also had a
honeypot operation into Donald Trump's campaign in twenty sixteen. At
least we know where we stand with Cash, and that's
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somebody who has a track record of actually going in
and exposing the corruption at the FBI.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Honey pop, that's stuff you only see in movies. Garrett,
did you ever take part in any honeypot stuff? Although
I don't think.
Speaker 10 (27:58):
You would do that well, to be frank, no, sir,
I can't say that I did. And I think another
interesting aspect of this is you got CBS, I think
was the first outlet I saw who reported this quote
unquote whistleblower. And I find it interesting that that suddenly
they're interested in FBI whistleblowers. I've been suspended for just
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a little over twenty nine months now. Steve and I
both got suspended at the same time. I'm still holding on.
I'm technically an FBI employee still, and yet CBS has
never reached out, never said, Hey, you're an FBI whistleblower.
What do you guys have to say? And so it
just is no surprise, but at the same time should
be should be shocking to people that suddenly the legacy
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media is interested in whistleblowers and labeling them whistleblowers without
any type of legal vetting. And it's especially funny because
when Steve and I testified, goodness, this was May of
twenty twenty three, so quite a while ago. Now Wie
Wasserman Schultz came out and straight up said these are
not whistleblower. But again, if you go back to the
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legal outline that I laid out from our federal statutes,
it's pretty clear that we had a reasonable belief of
an allegation of some type of wrongdoing like that. And
even in fairness, let's say this person isn't a whistleblower, Okay,
they still have a right under five UC seventy to
eleven to contact members of Congress. But to conflate the
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issue of some alleged violation of a protocol issue is
vastly different than an allegation that a law is being broken.
And furthermore, this hostage fusion cell or whatever it was
called from the FBI that this person allegedly is whistleblowing from,
they may have different protocols in the CIA or the
State Department or DoD all facets of our government that's
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involved in some type of hostage negotiation and release.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Steve, I'm a little bit frustrated, to put it mildly,
that Pam Bondi is still not been confirmed. Leave it
to the low TGOP to take the most important position
and kick it down the road to last. And I'm
concerned because I understand what's probably taking place inside the
walls of the DOJ and the FBI as we wait
for cash Hotel. These people are preparing, aren't they.
Speaker 11 (30:16):
Steve hundred present they are, And it's interesting to use
the term inside the walls. Like earlier today I got
a photograph from the FBI Academy where they were painting
over on the walls what the core value that the
FBI reports to hold, where they put diversity ahead of
vigorous obedience to the Constitution and so in anticipation of
cash Hotel coming in.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And look, this is completely.
Speaker 11 (30:37):
On the shoulders of the low TGP at this point
they hold the power to actually confirm these nominees, and
yet they've put them off. These hearings, frankly, are completely unnecessary.
All these questions could be submitted in writing, These meetings
could happen behind closed doors. But what it basically boils
down to is a bunch of politicians want to get
on TV, get their seven minutes, hope to get a
viral moment so that they can fundraise and maybe get
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on cable news TV tonight so they can get their
own name idea up and maybe pick up a.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Few extra ex followers.
Speaker 11 (31:06):
It's completely unnecessary. We need to get these vital positions
filled because the Attorney General of the United States, the
director of the FBI, they are the positions that have
the ability to pull back an FBI, a weaponized DOJ,
back and brink and get it onto a correct course
that is objectively good and interested in upholding the rule
of law and protecting the constitution of the United States.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Garrett Trump famously signed an executive order has been talking
about reinstating military people who got kicked out for the
backsman adid all that other stuff, and I applaud him
for that. Question to you, I guess, Steve, everybody have
you heard anything texts, emails, phone calls, rumors that you
and the fellas are going to get made whole in
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some way.
Speaker 10 (31:53):
I've had some conversations with my attorneys within the last
month or so that certainly it seems like a tide
is turning, and it seems like perhaps there will be
a little more interest in a much more rapid resolution
to this preposterous amount of time that I've been hanging
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in limbo. But nothing concrete yet, and I'm okay with that.
I've gone this long, Steve Kyle Marcus, We've all spent
quite a quite a large amount of time just waiting
and trying to fight the good fight. I can make
it a little bit longer, and I'll give I'll give
the current administration a little bit of grace and a
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little bit benefit of a doubt there, because they're still fighting.
They've been fighting subversions since election day, and they're going
to have to continue fighting it. Cash and Pam Bondi
and any of these other cabinet positions and appointees. They're
going to have to fight this type of subversion for
a long time. So I understand if they don't quite
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get to whistle blowing or US whistleblowers right off the bat,
But I'm hopeful that twenty twenty five in a large
way will be a year of vindication for all of
the suspendables.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I'm pulling for you guys, good luck fellas come back soon.
Thank yes, all right, let's talk to Chip Roy. In fact,
I want to ask Chip Roy about that what he's heard.
Let's ask him about what's going on in DC next. Well,
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spending hasn't stopped, hasn't slowed down. And I know we're
all excited right now about the way things are going.
We have mass deportations, confirmations are going through, at least
we hope confirmations we like. Well who things are changing.
I'm happy, you're happy, everyone's happy. However, spending the country
into bankruptcy is still going and apparently the GOP intends
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to keep it going. Joining me now to talk about
that great congressman from the state of Texas, my friend
Chip Roy. Ok, what the hell is going on?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Well, Jesse, good to be on.
Speaker 12 (34:04):
So, so here's the deal and put it in summary form.
The big tension right now among Republicans is what do
we do on the so called reconciliation product? Right, this
is the package that we have to do under the
Budget Control Act to reconcile tax policy and our spending
policy to achieve zero deficit. Now before you laugh, right,
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that's what the law requires. So we're going through that process.
The upside is that you can do it with majority
vote in the House and the Senate. Remind you, Democrats
use this to jam through Obamacare, so we should and
can use this to truly have some transformative change respect
to spending, taxes, and some policies that are embedded in
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those decisions, like healthcare.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
So where are we.
Speaker 12 (34:52):
There's been a debate about one bill versus two bill
that's kind of shiny. The reason that that debate has existed.
I favor two bills is because I want to move quickly.
I want to get the border funded. I want to
get defense funded properly, not through ways, but to give
heggs up when he needs to modernize the military. And
then I want to get cuts to the very upfront
immediate things like, for example, the student loan fiasco, the
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electric vehicle mandates. And then I'm happy to give the
president an increase in the debt ceiling, probably bigger than
I would personally prefer, because I want to give him
the room to go get his job done. Then do
a second bill. I'm taxing and spending. There is a
big debate right now, and we're now focusing on one
big so called beautiful Bill. Well, I'm for a big,
beautiful bill if it actually cuts spending. So this morning,
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I'm told that in Florida. I didn't go there. I
went to Texas to be with my family because my
family needed me to be home, and I knew what
would happen in Florida, which is more of the same.
I'm getting updates and I'm not going to announce them
yet because this was a private meeting. But they're what
you would expect, which is not really big cuts. They
want to issue what's called instructions to the Budget Committee
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to have I'm going to generally characterize barely low numbers
of additional cuts to quote offset what we're going to
have to outlay. With respect to the tax policy, last
point don't mean a filibuster. Republicans have been taught for
forever if tax cuts pay for themselves, I broadly speaking
agree with the notion if you leave money in the
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hands of the of the taxpayers, they will create wealth.
I don't want taxes. I'd like to zero out the
tax code. But if you're going to do that, then
you at least have to do math, because if we
keep printing money, then that's a tax on our future kids,
grain kids, and on our entire.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Ability to exist because of inflation.
Speaker 12 (36:43):
So I'm demanding tax that with the tax cuts we
have spending cuts, we are getting resistance on that and
thus the conflict.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Okay, so break down a couple things for me, Chip,
and You're always welcome to philibuster on this show because
it explains things to us. One, why Florida? What's going
on in Florida? Two, when you're talking about cuts, the
things like electric vehicle mandates, you know, student loan ridiculousness
that seems like bread and butter, easy gop layups. You're
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not asking them to take a hardcore pro life position
or something like that. Why is there any resistance at all? Please?
Speaker 12 (37:23):
Well, I'm not yet sure where the resistance will be
fully on student loans or ev mandates, but what I
do know is they couldn't agree with me and some
of my colleagues who all signed the letter saying we
would do those things, to do it quickly.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
My view was give the president the border funding.
Speaker 12 (37:38):
Now, let's get these people removed, let's get them repatriated,
let's support Tom Homan, and let's do it quickly. Because
the more time that goes on. They're gonna have a
breed of horribles. They're gonna show a picture of somebody
getting removed. It seems sympathetic, and then we're gonna have
a tough time getting that money. But what's really going
on down in Florida is it's a Republican retreat.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
That's fine. I don't know why we have to go.
Speaker 12 (37:59):
Down to a resort in Florida to do that, but fine,
they go to resort, go do that. But I knew
what was going to happen, so I just made a
choice to go be in Texas. But I'm in constant
communication with them. And what's happening right now is they're
putting forward cuts that are pretty small, but yet the
tax amount is pretty significant.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
So what does that mean right now?
Speaker 12 (38:20):
If you look at outside entity's the Congressional Budget Office,
all these other things, and I don't trust any one
of them, per se, they have a cost to the
tax cut. Right Well, let's take child tax credit, Jesse.
Nobody will tell me, and I'm asking everybody in the
in the House representative, will you tell the world that
child tax credits will pay for themselves through economic growth?
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The answer to that is no, is an eight hundred
billion dollar ten year deduction or parents for their kids.
That might be great policy Jesse, but it's not economic productivity.
So you can't go, on the other hand, say, oh,
we don't need to go cut spending to pay for that.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I believe you do.
Speaker 12 (39:03):
So that's all I'm saying. Can we just do math
and we teach our kids to do math. Just put
up a big whiteboard. Let's just put up all of
the taxes on one side, Let's put up all of
the spending on the other side, and let's balance that.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
That's all I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Okay, So can you merge these worlds for me? Chip,
because I hear the Trump administration. Trump is trying to
make these big bull moves like cutting the income tax,
which obviously is music to my ears, music to everybody's ears,
I suppose. But we're talking about cutting income taxes. Great,
sounds good, but they don't want to cut any spending
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in the house. So one of those two things is
never going to happen. Right.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Well, so this is the actual big question.
Speaker 12 (39:48):
So there's a lot of pressure, for good reason, to
make the tax cuts that were put in place in
twenty seventeen permanent. The corporate rates are already permanent. Okay,
let's be very clear. Those we're the big economic engine
in twenty seventeen. The other rates are the ones expiring,
the standard deduction, the individual rates, the child tax credits,
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et cetera. So everybody wants to keep their lower taxes.
They don't want the taxes to go up next December.
I agree. I shared that view. I'm a taxpayer. I'd
like to zero out my tax But are we going
to get spending cuts?
Speaker 2 (40:25):
The answer is no if some of.
Speaker 12 (40:28):
Us don't force the question when tied to the tax cuts,
because the pressure for tax cuts is real high, and
I'm saying, guys, I can't agree to give you your tax
cuts and then expect that tomorrow you're going to deliver
for me the spending cut, because they will never do it.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
So that's the fight we're having right now.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
All right, tell me about China owning farmland here, Chip,
before I let you go.
Speaker 12 (40:55):
Yes, I introduced the bill four years ago to ban
Chinese ownership of any land.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
It's particularly just when it's farm land. But I don't
think it should just be a farm land that we prohibit.
I think it should be all land. Frankly, I don't
think the chi Coom should own any of our significant assets.
Speaker 12 (41:09):
No meatpacking plants, production facilities, certainly not land. We would
never let Nazi Germany own land in America in nineteen
thirty nine or nineteen forty four or after the war,
so I think we should restrict it. Frankly, I might
even go further and introduce the bullinesses, why does any
foreign national own any real estate or land in this country.
I understand that you want capital to flow into our nation,
(41:31):
but I don't think I want borders owning dirts, even
if they're supposedly our friends, but certainly not the chi COOM.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
So that's what my bill would do.
Speaker 12 (41:39):
I've reintroduced it now for the think third Congress, and
I think we need to act on it.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
I don't think this is that hard.
Speaker 12 (41:45):
It's our national security interest, and it's frankly, I think
sensible policy.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
I agree Congressman, as always, thank you, come back soon,
Please keep fighting. All right, we have a special tomorrow
speaking of the MS on the Chicoms China. What's going
on over there? What are we doing about it? You're
gonna want to touch that anyway before we get to
that we have light in the mood. Next all it
(42:20):
is time to lighten the mood. And you know now
we do things on the show lighten the mood after
all the heavy news and immigration and spending and confirmation hearings.
Lighten the mood is supposed to lift you up. You
are supposed to rise. That's what Chuck Humber wants.
Speaker 13 (42:38):
To People are aroused. I haven't seen people so aroused
in a very very long time in terms of going
trying to get this done. So yes, I think democracy
will have an effect and we are going to keep
at it. People are aroused. I haven't seen people so
aroused in a very very long time in terms of
going right to have this done. So yes, I think
(43:00):
democracy will have an effect and we are going to
keep out
Speaker 1 (43:07):
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