February 5, 2025 • 38 mins
Captain John Konrad explains our massive shipping problem. How does the US navy stack up to the Chinese? Who makes our ships now? Without force the communist can’t gain ground anywhere. How many communist activists are in the federal government. Trump going after communist activism that is being funded by your tax dollars.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on
a wonderful, wonderful Wednesday. We have John Conrad coming up
about a half hour from now. Everything you wanted to
know about shipping, naval, shipping, merchant marine stuff. I love
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that stuff. And he has some eye popping things to say.
He's a captain. We'll talk to Captain John Conrad about
a half hour from now. Ah that, in fact, we're
gonna get dig into this CIA, FBI stuff, some emails,
all that more coming up this next hour of the
Jesse Kelly Show. As I have returned to work. Now,
(00:55):
let's talk about this one final word on this collective
free out. They're freaking out about us AID, but it's
not only us AI D remember. I want you to,
I want you to really really remember this. That is
just the tip. That's just one of the first organizations
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that has been shut down by the Trump administration. They
are going after the roots of everything, and that's why
they're all freaking out. It's not just us EIGHT, it's
the CIA.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
The Wall Street journals reporting the CIA has reportedly just
offered a buyout to its entire workforce, everyone in the agencies,
telling employees late today they can quit their jobs and
receive about eight months of pay and benefits.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
CIA what FBI too, Rachel Maddow was crying, what about
the f Beyond.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Beyond that, they appear to be targeting all the FBI
agents who are involved in any of the cases brought
against January sixth rioters. If they are going to try
to purge every FBI agent who took any part in
any one of these well over one thousand cases, that's that's.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Listen to how offended they are, and you know why
they're offended. I touched on this a little bit the
first hour. You know why they're offended. They're afraid. Of
course they're afraid. They're angry. Their power base is eroding,
because their power base has always been holding on to
positions in government power. But they're also just flat out
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offended in the same way you would be offended if
if your job, if one of your jobs at the
office was to staple the papers before every big meeting,
you staple the papers. Not glorious, not glamorous, But for
thirty years you've worked in the same office, and that's
been your job stable the paper. You're the only one
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who does it. No one else even has a stapler. Hey,
stay with the papers, and that's your job. You've simply
gotten used to that being your job. You're used to
being the only one in the office who does that job.
That's part of your critical role. And then you wake
up one day and it's time for a meeting and
the boss introduces you to the new employee. Nobody likes. Hey,
(03:20):
let me introduce you out of Corey. What what's Corey's job?
We brought Corey in. He's gonna do a bunch of stuff.
But one of the things he's gonna do, he's gonna
staple papers before the meeting. How hurt would you be offended?
That's what democrats across the United States of America are
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currently experiencing as they watch Republicans finally, for the first
time in my life, figure out power where it actually lies,
and how to take it back. What you're hearing from
them about usaid, is the exact tone of It's the
exact way they were freaking out when you, the individual
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citizen started showing up at school board meetings. We weren't
even yelling yet. Who just showed up at school board meetings,
or I should say, we weren't even running for office
yet we were yelling all of a sudden, wait, Republicans
are showing up, normal parents are showing up the school
board meetings. This is how many pieces of audio did
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I play for you? Of not some activists like me,
a normal parent showing up in a school board meeting,
some dad saying, dude, look at this. This is porn
in the library. You're showing my daughter porn in kindergarten.
Why is this here? And how many bits of audio
have I played for you about city council members threatening
in with the rest shutting down the school board meeting,
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but we're done for the day. We can't do that.
How many times did I play for you? How offended
some card caring communist was. They're offended for a variety reasons,
but one of the main reasons they're offended is we've
woken up. We're not supposed to care about these positions
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of power. We're not supposed to figure out that that's
how they fund everything. We're not supposed to figure out
that's how they control everything. It's only them. It's only
them who's supposed to understand power and how to seize
it and how to wield it. And it's only them,
and the fact that we are waking up to that
has these people freaking mortified. That's why you can go
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after a government agency that ninety nine percent of Americans
didn't know existed a week ago, and you'll have Democrat
senator after Democrat house members talking about being at war.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Will not take this, We will fight back. And as
that calls out, because I've never been out here for
a long time, and God shut down the sar.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
At war over Usaight, why would you be at war?
Because you can send out executive orders to shut down
the DEI Department of the Pentagon all day long. The
communist understands that that's a temporary set back, but he'll
just start up that same department when he goes back in.
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But if you actually shut down and expose to the
American people the levels of government corruption put into place
by Democrats over decades, well, what you're actually doing there
is threatening what genuinely matters. And that's why they're yelping
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when they were awfully quiet before. Without force, without government
funded force, taxpayer funded force, without force, the communist can
never gain power anywhere, and he knows it, and that's
why he seeks out power so aggressively. He must grab it,
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and he must use it, because without it, the revolution
simply dies on the vine. Jesse the Oracle Kelly. By
the way, you can email the show Jesse at Jesse
kellyshow dot com. Jesse the Oracle Kelly. You've been talking
about looting the treasury for as long as I can remember.
With this new administration, we're seeing the first glimpses into
the depths of corruption that has begun going on for decades.
(07:32):
It's far far worse than we maybe not you ever
imagined the global schemes to gut the country financially and
enrich the elites. Now, look, it's worse than I've ever
imagined either. I joke about being an oracle. I'm not
all knowing. I know it's bad. I've maybe been ahead
of some of the politicians and knowing how bad it is.
(07:52):
But how deep does this go? Well, Okay, there's an
article out here it's worth talking about. It's from town Hall,
which I love. But town Hall they have a headline
here that says the impressive number of federal workers who
have taken Trump's buyout option. Hey, Chris, I know a
(08:13):
rough number. Get me an exact number. If you don't
mind the number of federal employees. Please just get me
that real quickly. So the headline is the impressive number
of federal workers who've taken Trump's buyout and you know
what that number is? Twenty thousand, about one percent of
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the federal workforce. Twenty thousand.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Apparently that Trump White House has a target of five
to ten percent. So we've gotten rid of one percent
of the federal workforce. The goal is a removal of
five to ten percent of the federal workforce. Okay, so
let's just think about these numbers. We'll call it. We'll
call it two million employees. It's close to the three.
Last tight thought I would have guessed three. Chris says,
(08:59):
it's two point seven. Three point four. No, we'll call
it three. We'll call it three. That's number right there
in the middle. We found that sweet spot. So walk
with me here. Three million federal employees. We are I'm
under selling this, under selling it. We'll say ninety percent
of those are Democrats. Okay, so that's two point seven
million workers who are Democrats. Let's be extra extra generous
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and say half of those federal Democrats. Yeah, they vote Democrat,
but they're not full blown communists. And that's being very
very generous. But let's say we have one point three
million communist activists withinside the federal government. From inside the
federal government, we've gotten twenty thousand of them to quit.
(09:49):
Good for Trump for that they want sounds like they
want another one hundred thousand more. Okay, that's good, But
I admit I had to drop out algebra from community
college a few times. But that leaves over a million
communist activists still in positions of power in the federal government.
(10:11):
That was me being generous. Remember those are generous numbers.
I just walked you through the math. My point is
not to be a Debbie downer. My point is they've
been doing this for so so long. The roots are
so so deep. We are just starting you think this
is bad. We're starting to glimpse just the tip. This
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a hump day. Remember if you miss any part of
the show, you can download the whole thing on iHeart,
Spotify iTunes. Also Jasmine Crockett the Democrat Party, Well they're
in deep, deep trouble, and yes, I remembered Chris Captain Conrad. Yeah,
I did. I kind of remember John Conrad's coming up
in ten minutes to talk about shipping and all kinds
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of stuff. I remember before Jewish producer Chris did. He
didn't remind me anyway. Democrats have a problem, you see,
they have a couple different problems. The first massive problem
they have right now is the Trump administration. Trump two
point zero, after getting shot and arrested, had figured out
exactly how evil communists are, and they decided they're going
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to go after the roots of communism, not just the
surface stuff like normal. They're going to go after the
government funded network of communism that has existed in this
country for a very long time. And this comes before
they go after the Apartment of Education. Donald Trump promised
many times on the campaign trail, and not just in
(13:05):
the Republican primary, in the general election. Donald Trump promised
to destroy the Department of Education. I am hearing word
now that's coming quickly. Can you imagine what Democrats are
going to do, because that's the source of really all
(13:26):
their power. What are they going to do if they
lose government funding for communist activism and if they lose
the ability to turn aiden Jaden and Braden against you. Now,
destroying the Department of Education is not enough to do that,
But what do they do? And when you combine that
with the Jasmine Crocketts of the world, meaning Jasmine Crockett
(13:52):
is one of these people, one of these squad types.
And the important thing to know about her is she's
from a district that's all Democrats, So she's in the
safest Democrat seat in the world, and she can run
her fat mouth as loud as humanly possible and say
the most despicable things humanly possible, and she's always going
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to get re elected. The problem for the Democrat Party
is they're being assaulted. They're funding is being assaulted, as
Trump and Elon go after the government funding, but they're
being assaulted by another entity to it's from the inside.
They're being assaulted from the ones on the inside who
(14:33):
they're blocking. Any Democrat move to the middle or to
normal sea I don't think Democrats are going to move
to the middle necessarily, But in order to tone down
how they talk and try to sound more normal, try
to sound remotely palatable to an American, a normal American,
they have to change some things. You have to change
(14:56):
how you talk about things. You have to change how
you speak demograph Honestly, the Democrats have become so enamored
with DEI diversity, equity and inclusion that now white men
especially and some white women too, but white men, they
feel like the Democrat Party hates them. That's not just
(15:16):
me talking. Go look at the poll numbers. Go look
at not only the poll numbers, go look at the trends.
If you are a white man, not just an activist
like me, if you are a normy, a white man
in this country, really men in general, but white men especially,
the poll number tracks this way. White men hate Democrats
because they think Democrats hate them. Well, if you're a Democrat,
(15:37):
will set aside the morality of that and how you
should want everybody to get involved them, set aside. All
let's just talk politically about taking power nationally. If you're
a Democrat, you don't get there without white men. You don't.
It's not possible. And Democrats in part acknowledge this when
they went and grab Tim Walls from Minnesota. As dumb
and useless and weird as Tim Walls was. The Harris campaign.
(16:00):
Remember we had the internals, we said, we even played
for you. The pollster who said we're losing men. We're
losing men quickly, especially white men, were losing them. So
they went and grab Tim Wallas to try to mitigate
the white men losses. They know they are not going
to be able to win national elections if white men
think Democrats hate them. And that brings us to Jasmine Crockett.
(16:23):
And let me clarify. The Democrats, the older ones, the
Nancy Pelosi's, the Chuck Schumers, they know what I just
said is true. Internally, they're talking about it. We gotta
find a way to get white men back. We got
to stop demonizing white men. We got to stop doing this.
But Jazmine, you see, she's in a really safe seat.
So while the national Democrats are trying to figure out
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how to keep the DEI but let white men know
we don't hate them. Well, misgluedon eyelashes has a different idea.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
It is really really a sad day.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
That was the complete wrong one. Hate myself here it
is I.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Am tired of the white tears.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Listen, if you are competent, you are not concerned when
I walk into Congress every single day. You know why
I don't feel away and why you can't make me
doubt who I am is because I know that I
had to work ten times as hard as they did
just to get into the seat. When you look and
you compare me to Marjorie Taylor Green or me to
Lauren Bobert, there is no comparison.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
And that is the life that we have always lived.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
So the only people that are crying are the mediocre
white boys that have been beaten out by people that
historically have had to work so much.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
You could roll your eyesa get bad and throw things
at the radio, that's fine, But you know what that is.
That's electoral suicide. That's what that is. If they don't
find a way to shut that woman up, they will
find a way to primary her for a Democrat party
dying to win back Michigan, Pennsylvania, in Wisconsin. This is suicide.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
I am tired of the white tears. Listen. If you are.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Competent, Chris, go ahead and write this one down. You
will see in multiple political ads next election cycle, probably
in the midterms, you will see some version of this
interview with Jasmine.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
I am tired of the white tears. Listen if you are.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
She's writing Republican ads for them The last thing I'll
say about Jasmine Crockett is I hate seeing her and
Lauren Bobert fight. I would like it if those two
would just hug it out, maybe on television. That's all
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next Jesse Kelly Vaccian. It is the Jesse Kelly Show
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on a Wednesday, a wonderful hump Day, And as promised,
I have Captain and John Conrad joining us now to
talk about actually a couple of different things. I want
to talk a lot of shipping with him. He has
a lot of thoughts about that, but he also put
up something pretty fascinating, wonderful read online today. I want
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to lead off with this, Hey, John, I call it
the system, but I always say the system speaks with
one voice. You turn on the news and this professor
is saying the same thing as CNN, who's saying the
same thing as MSNBC is, who's saying the same thing
as Chuck Schumer. John, you want to explain that phenomenon
to me?
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Yes, I would love to, and I was just after
the show. If you can go to my Twitter, John Conrad.
I'm writing reply because a few hours later the New
York Times got their number one hit man, Ezra Cline
that counter my calling them manipulative fools. What they do
is you used to have independent journalists, and I'm a
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ship reporter. I report about ships. So this is how
I got that site. I run gcaptain dot com, a
maritime news site. Aware the destruction of independent journalists. The
New York Times used to have a dock reporter, and
that doc reporter had a huge rolodex contact lists of
experts in the field that let him get these deep sources.
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But starting you know, in the two thousands, with budget
cuts and Craigslist and then Obama really nailed this, they
got rid of those specialists. So there's no longer like
a treasury journalist or a maritime journalist, and they got
these generalists. So what they have is these bureau chiefs
around the country who are looking at local news and
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when they see something that might hurt the narrative or
explode around the country, they send it to the editor
of the New York Times, who has an editorial meeting
with the top editors, and they decide on the narrative,
how are they going to spin this story to make
it usually best for the Democrats. And what they do
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then is because these generalists, you know, these reporters who
went to Columbia journalism school, but they don't have deep
connections that the specialists had. They kind of pre form
who the sources are. So they give the journalists. They
don't outright say we want you to tilt this left
or lie about it. They give them a pre determined
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list of sources. You know, someone like Bill McCrystal is
a good example. Talk to this guy about it, and
they can kind of a fleevor how the bent will be.
So if they want to be hard on China, they'll
take someone on a PhD from approved think tank that's
a little hard on China. If they want to go easy,
they'll pick a source that is easy on China. And
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then so the journalist has, you know, they er the
story that they stole from the local news or wherever
it was, and then they have, you know, this guidance
from the editor. And then on top of that, they
have these sources that are going to you know, manipulate
the story. And then occasionally it's usually organic, they push
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it out and then everyone all of the Hollywood and
the media and the bloggers and all the left on
X they read the New York Times to come up
with the narrative, and then they go out and they
distribute it, and how they control this narrative because everyone's
independent is basic reward, carrot and stick. So if you
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copy the narrative, you get awards, you get a pull,
a serprise, or a book deal, or maybe it's just
travel to the Paris office to work on a thing.
If you buck the narrative, as a number have done,
then they are going to punish you. First, they're going to,
you know what, reassign you to the local news in
New York. You know that people don't read, and if
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you continue to buck the narrative, they may fire you.
And then if you continue to buck the narrative, then
they are going to put you on the Wikipedia Blacklist.
And once you're on the Wikipedia Blacklist, I know because
I'm on it, then Google takes that blacklist, sucks it up,
and every time there's a search result for an article, well,
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when there's one by John Conrad, they're going to bury
that on page three because the Wikipedia Blacklist says and
so there's no fingerprint because Google didn't say, hey, we didn't,
we didn't penalize John or anyone else for being anti narrative.
You know, we got it from Wikipedia, and the Wikipedia
comes up with these weird sources, you know. For me,
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they said I spanned it I wrote, which means I
wrote too many maritime articles on Wikipedia, and so they
said I linked it. That's how I got blacklisted. But
the things different. And then if you're really bad, someone
like our friend Jack pozek Uh, you know, they'll say
you're a Russian agent and they're going to full smear campaign,
which in his case is ridiculous because he's literally a
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US Navy interlawser.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
With John Conrad, Captain John Conrad obviously a shipping ban
but I wanted to ask him about this first and foremost.
I swear we are going to get to shipping at
some point, John, But I found your writing on this
to be really, really fascinating and revealing. It's something I've
talked about a lot, so it sounds to me like
what you're describing, and feel free to correct me if
I'm wrong. Is what a lot of people, myself included,
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referred to as the hive mind. How it's not necessarily
one human being or one entity deciding things, but the
hive mind itself has decided these are the carrots, and
if you choose these carrots, you will be elevated to
hire ritchier positions, even go to Paris one day. If
you reject our carrots, then you will get the whip
and you will find yourself covering the winter moon and Anchorage,
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Alaska in January.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Don't have that right, absolutely correct, But it is more
centralized than that, so you have you know, it's like
the mafia with the capo don's and the thing. And
here you know, in my example, I say four star
generals New York Times BBC, and you know in other
countries too, Der Spiegel, these liberal things, you know, they're
all meeting and talking at conferences and kind of predicting this, right,
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and then they write they're kind of independence. So they
whoever they is controlling it, the blob, the elite doesn't
tell them. It's more corrective action. So if the New
York Times gets something wrong that the blog doesn't like,
you know, someone within the deep state, maybe it's Obama,
we don't know who will call the editor and help,
call all those friends at the other magazine and say hey,
we got to change this narrative. So they like as
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light a touch as possible, right, so there are no fingerprints,
and they trust these four star generals New York Times
editor in chief, MPR editor in chief to kind of
handle things on their own, and they only step in
when there's corrective action, and of course to punish the
low level soldiers, the journalists out in the field.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
How about that? He is John Conrad. Make sure you
go read his stuff. Now, let's shift years and actually
get on what I told you I wanted to talk about,
and that is something you are an expert on shipping.
I'm going to ask the most open ended question you've
ever been asked, But what are your shipping concerns right now?
For US?
Speaker 5 (27:15):
All massive concerns. So China not only has a larger
navy than the United States, and everyone you know says,
well the US has more missiles or we got better training.
That's true, but how do we if there's a war overseas?
People forget the troops have to get over there, and
if there's contested airspace, you can't fly inm so you
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have to ship them over there. Well, China has over
three thousand merchant ships carrying supplies, bullets, food, fuel, and
everything else. The United States only has eighty three in
international service, and none of these ships have any defenses.
Against drones or missiles like the sea wiz gatling gun
on the navy. We don't have any of that. So
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as we're seeing in the Red Sea, we can't even
get the ships past the HOUTHI so how if we
can't get our commercial eighty three, which isn't enough past
the hoothies, how are they going to get over to
Taiwana or Okinawa to bring the soldiers and the bullets
and everything else if there.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Is a war, three thousand ships to our eighty three,
and our eighty three sound like they're virtually defenseless. I'll
tell you what, John, I already I already kept you
on for ten Do you have another few minutes on
the back end of this break to answer a couple
more shipping questions? If not, that's fine.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
I have as much time as you need. Jessam, I'm
happy to be here. Thank you for inviting me.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
We are going to talk about our shipping a little
bit more depth here in just a moment. Before I
get to that, it's been all kinds of history talk tonight.
It's all kinds of history talk period on this show.
Do you know I love it? Probably that's one of
the main reasons I fell in love with Hillsdale College.
Hillsdale College is one of those things where my disgust
(29:02):
with the university system was rising at the same time
my impassionate love for history was rising. And then you
see this wonderful university that everyone, every parent wants their
kids to get into, Hillsdale. Well, I can't get your
kids into Hillsdale. I probably can't get mine into Hillsdale,
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It's made for Chris and you. Hillsdale dot Edu slash Jesse.
We'll be back. Get the Cure for Rhinos week days
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Show with that the Jaws soundtrack. Chris, that's so dark
right now now, I'm freaked out everyone's freaked out. Anyway,
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we're are back with John Conrad. Captain John Conrad talked
a little bit about the government corruption and media corruption
really just a little bit ago, but we're focusing now
on his particular area of expertise. One that fascinates me.
It's always fascinating me shipping. So John, you just laid
out that China has three thousand merchant ships. We have
eighty three and ours are completely undefended. So eighty three
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Chinese missiles and we have zero. Can you start with this?
How did that happen?
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Well, it's interesting you at the Hillsdale College because I
was talking to Eric Prince and he went to the
Naval Academy and he actually left the Naval Academy to
go to Hillsdale because he thought he would learn more
about ships there. So they really focused on the warships,
the guns, the missiles. But what really makes a nation
powerful is control of trade. Ninety percent of everything comes
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on ships, and you have these choke points that you control.
So Gibraltar, that's why the Panama Canal is so important.
Greenland to get up to the Arctic. Singapore Street, and
you know, the Navy's just been laser focused on warships,
carriers and are straw and they're the best in the nation.
But they've completely pushed the US merchant Marine out of
(31:24):
their mind. They've they've cut out their entire budget. No
one cares about it. They've they've outsourced a lot of
the regulations to the absolutely corrupt un maritime body in London,
the IMO. And so you know, China saw that China
doesn't necessarily care what it attacks. It goes after our
weakest lengths. It wants to fill and the things we're
(31:46):
really bad at. So it's put this enormous amount of
money into the shipbuilding, the trade to controlling choke points
by having partnerships with Iran, who then partners with the Huthis.
So this is, you know, it's the navy's laser focus
on warships. And then there are periment prompts. Right, the
(32:08):
Navy can only spend what they spent. And we used
to build the carriers and battleships. Battleships like the Brooklyn
Navy Yard was a Navy it was a government shipyard
with government markers. Now all of the Navy ships are
built by corporations like HII or General dynamics and they
(32:29):
have to go get money from Wall Street. Well, Wall
Street found out it's more profitable to put money in
China shipyards because they have a higher turnover rate. And
you know, if the inventory is just sitting on the
shelves for six years, you're not making money. So they
pull money out of US shipyards and put it over
to China. And that's that's kind of the basics of
(32:50):
how we got here.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Okay, So again we're speaking with John Conrad. So if
the money, the easy money is in Chinese shipping for
this is American shippings. That's why our shipping's underfunded and
China's is overfunded. Why is that a they have slave
labor thing? Has it just come down to that.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
No, it's you know, these are big shipyards. You have
to dig out like the graving dock, so the ship
goes in and then they flood out the water. It's
big Quane's, big industrial equipment, and that has a capital cost.
So if you if you're going to buy a dry dock,
you have to go to Wall Street and say I
need ten billion dollars for a dry dock, and then
you build the dry dock and you've got to maintain
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it for twenty years. You need to work for it.
You got to build that equipment. That equipment RUSS. It
has a lot of money associated with it. But instead
you can hire some one like McKinsey Consultants to do
a give them ten billion dollars for a study on
why our shipyards don't work. And then they complete the
study and they give it to the DD and guess what,
(33:53):
the problem is still there. So they got to go
back to McKinsey and say, well, the problem's worse now,
and mckinzy goes, hey, give us twenty billion dollars. I
don't these are hypothetical numbers. I don't want to focus
on Mackensey. It could be any of the defense contractors.
But the big thing is if they do a study,
or if they do a piece of software or something else,
they don't have to maintain it for the next twenty years.
(34:14):
So they don't particularly want to built ships Jesse. They
would rather do studies and then think tank reports and
other things that they can generate revenue and not have
the long term maintenance costs.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Speaking with John Conrad, Okay, John, one more question and
then I'll let you go tell me about icebreakers. Why
I should care, why they matter?
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Well, you care about icebreakers because Donald Trump said the
other day we are going to build forty and this
is a key component of the Greenland strategy. So there's
the Greenland Iceland UK gap. If you've seen in the
movie Diplomat, the whole theory of that whole thing is
the importance of this gap, and it really is. You know,
I don't particularly like that show, but it is that
(34:56):
important because you know where if you control these choke
points to the Red Sea and everything else, if we're
able to shut him down, well, China can just go
up into the Arctic, and Russia has forty ice breakers.
So we really need to come up with a Maritimes
strategy to secure these choke points, getting up the Barren
(35:18):
Straight and the Greenland Iceland Gap. So we need these
ice breakers to be able to go up there, and
none of our warships if we had to fight, if
the you know, Chinese navy goes to hide up there
or the Russian navy, how are we going to get
up there if we don't have ice breakers. So fortunately,
Michael Waltz is the creator of the Ships for America Act,
(35:40):
which is going to have reinvest in shipyards in the
merchant marine and those dirty logistics ships and things like
fireboats which we don't have in San Diego and resulting
in the big bonhom Richard fire. So he put this
through Congress and then Trump picked him for National Security Council.
And you know, I can't go into details, but Trump
has big plans, not just icebreakers, but other ships. And
(36:03):
he did one more thing. He instead of getting a
Navy guy and remember they're very focused on that kinetic warfare,
he got one of the best hitch fund managers in
the world, John Feeling, to come up with a financial
plan in order to amateurize these maintenance and get that
money flow stop to China and redirected into the into
(36:25):
the United States. So I'm telling you, Jesse, I I
can't reveal some of the you know, secret plans behind
the thing, but I am extremely excited about what's coming.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
John Conrad. That was freaking awesome. Thanks for being patient
with us, making us smarter, John real quick plug your website.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Please gecaptain dot com and I'm on Twitter, John Conrad,
owen word Conrad with a k G.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Captain donor dot com go find him on Twitter. John
Conrad freaking awesome. Thank you brother, thank you. Hey, Chris,
I've got an ice breaker, do you know that? You
know what the ultimate icebreaker is. You walk up to somebody.
Hear me out, hear me out. You walk up to
somebody and say, hey, do you have a cell phone?
(37:17):
And they're gonna say, well, yeah, I have a cell
phone because everyone answers yes, right. You always want to
ask a question you know the answer to in sales,
you say hey do you have a cell phone? And
they look right back at you and they say, okay,
yeah I have a cell phone. Why. That's when you
tell them, did you know that phone you're holding right now?
(37:38):
Because they always grab their phone, you're funding communism. That's
what you can tell them. It's the ultimate icebreaker. I'm
sure it works great on dates, although I've never had
the chance. And then what that does is it opens
up a door to you to tell them about pure talk.
You see. That's when you say, hey, I look it's
just you and me in this elevator. I'm here to
(37:58):
let you know you don't have to fund communism with
your cell phone. Every month, you can switch to pere talk.
You can pay like half. You'll be on the same network,
so we can still talk to each other by phone
if we end up getting together or whatever. But pure
Talk is the way to go. See that's what you
call an icebreaker, Chris that or you can talk about
(38:21):
your ice maker a right anyway. Pure talk also has
a free phone. You can tell them that right now,
I phone fourteen or whatever. Pure talk is the best.
Dial pound two five zero and say Jesse Kelly pound
two five zero, Say Jesse Kelly, we still have an
hour left. Isn't that exciting? Can't believe I'm still alive.
(38:41):
Hang on
This is a Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on
a wonderful, wonderful Wednesday. We have John Conrad coming up
about a half hour from now. Everything you wanted to
know about shipping, naval, shipping, merchant marine stuff. I love
(00:33):
that stuff. And he has some eye popping things to say.
He's a captain. We'll talk to Captain John Conrad about
a half hour from now. Ah that, in fact, we're
gonna get dig into this CIA, FBI stuff, some emails,
all that more coming up this next hour of the
Jesse Kelly Show. As I have returned to work. Now,
(00:55):
let's talk about this one final word on this collective
free out. They're freaking out about us AID, but it's
not only us AI D remember. I want you to,
I want you to really really remember this. That is
just the tip. That's just one of the first organizations
(01:17):
that has been shut down by the Trump administration. They
are going after the roots of everything, and that's why
they're all freaking out. It's not just us EIGHT, it's
the CIA.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
The Wall Street journals reporting the CIA has reportedly just
offered a buyout to its entire workforce, everyone in the agencies,
telling employees late today they can quit their jobs and
receive about eight months of pay and benefits.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
CIA what FBI too, Rachel Maddow was crying, what about
the f Beyond.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Beyond that, they appear to be targeting all the FBI
agents who are involved in any of the cases brought
against January sixth rioters. If they are going to try
to purge every FBI agent who took any part in
any one of these well over one thousand cases, that's that's.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Listen to how offended they are, and you know why
they're offended. I touched on this a little bit the
first hour. You know why they're offended. They're afraid. Of
course they're afraid. They're angry. Their power base is eroding,
because their power base has always been holding on to
positions in government power. But they're also just flat out
(02:37):
offended in the same way you would be offended if
if your job, if one of your jobs at the
office was to staple the papers before every big meeting,
you staple the papers. Not glorious, not glamorous, But for
thirty years you've worked in the same office, and that's
been your job stable the paper. You're the only one
(02:57):
who does it. No one else even has a stapler. Hey,
stay with the papers, and that's your job. You've simply
gotten used to that being your job. You're used to
being the only one in the office who does that job.
That's part of your critical role. And then you wake
up one day and it's time for a meeting and
the boss introduces you to the new employee. Nobody likes. Hey,
(03:20):
let me introduce you out of Corey. What what's Corey's job?
We brought Corey in. He's gonna do a bunch of stuff.
But one of the things he's gonna do, he's gonna
staple papers before the meeting. How hurt would you be offended?
That's what democrats across the United States of America are
(03:41):
currently experiencing as they watch Republicans finally, for the first
time in my life, figure out power where it actually lies,
and how to take it back. What you're hearing from
them about usaid, is the exact tone of It's the
exact way they were freaking out when you, the individual
(04:04):
citizen started showing up at school board meetings. We weren't
even yelling yet. Who just showed up at school board meetings,
or I should say, we weren't even running for office
yet we were yelling all of a sudden, wait, Republicans
are showing up, normal parents are showing up the school
board meetings. This is how many pieces of audio did
(04:25):
I play for you? Of not some activists like me,
a normal parent showing up in a school board meeting,
some dad saying, dude, look at this. This is porn
in the library. You're showing my daughter porn in kindergarten.
Why is this here? And how many bits of audio
have I played for you about city council members threatening
in with the rest shutting down the school board meeting,
(04:48):
but we're done for the day. We can't do that.
How many times did I play for you? How offended
some card caring communist was. They're offended for a variety reasons,
but one of the main reasons they're offended is we've
woken up. We're not supposed to care about these positions
(05:08):
of power. We're not supposed to figure out that that's
how they fund everything. We're not supposed to figure out
that's how they control everything. It's only them. It's only
them who's supposed to understand power and how to seize
it and how to wield it. And it's only them,
and the fact that we are waking up to that
has these people freaking mortified. That's why you can go
(05:32):
after a government agency that ninety nine percent of Americans
didn't know existed a week ago, and you'll have Democrat
senator after Democrat house members talking about being at war.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Will not take this, We will fight back. And as
that calls out, because I've never been out here for
a long time, and God shut down the sar.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
At war over Usaight, why would you be at war?
Because you can send out executive orders to shut down
the DEI Department of the Pentagon all day long. The
communist understands that that's a temporary set back, but he'll
just start up that same department when he goes back in.
(06:26):
But if you actually shut down and expose to the
American people the levels of government corruption put into place
by Democrats over decades, well, what you're actually doing there
is threatening what genuinely matters. And that's why they're yelping
(06:47):
when they were awfully quiet before. Without force, without government
funded force, taxpayer funded force, without force, the communist can
never gain power anywhere, and he knows it, and that's
why he seeks out power so aggressively. He must grab it,
(07:10):
and he must use it, because without it, the revolution
simply dies on the vine. Jesse the Oracle Kelly. By
the way, you can email the show Jesse at Jesse
kellyshow dot com. Jesse the Oracle Kelly. You've been talking
about looting the treasury for as long as I can remember.
With this new administration, we're seeing the first glimpses into
the depths of corruption that has begun going on for decades.
(07:32):
It's far far worse than we maybe not you ever
imagined the global schemes to gut the country financially and
enrich the elites. Now, look, it's worse than I've ever
imagined either. I joke about being an oracle. I'm not
all knowing. I know it's bad. I've maybe been ahead
of some of the politicians and knowing how bad it is.
(07:52):
But how deep does this go? Well, Okay, there's an
article out here it's worth talking about. It's from town Hall,
which I love. But town Hall they have a headline
here that says the impressive number of federal workers who
have taken Trump's buyout option. Hey, Chris, I know a
(08:13):
rough number. Get me an exact number. If you don't
mind the number of federal employees. Please just get me
that real quickly. So the headline is the impressive number
of federal workers who've taken Trump's buyout and you know
what that number is? Twenty thousand, about one percent of
(08:33):
the federal workforce. Twenty thousand.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Apparently that Trump White House has a target of five
to ten percent. So we've gotten rid of one percent
of the federal workforce. The goal is a removal of
five to ten percent of the federal workforce. Okay, so
let's just think about these numbers. We'll call it. We'll
call it two million employees. It's close to the three.
Last tight thought I would have guessed three. Chris says,
(08:59):
it's two point seven. Three point four. No, we'll call
it three. We'll call it three. That's number right there
in the middle. We found that sweet spot. So walk
with me here. Three million federal employees. We are I'm
under selling this, under selling it. We'll say ninety percent
of those are Democrats. Okay, so that's two point seven
million workers who are Democrats. Let's be extra extra generous
(09:24):
and say half of those federal Democrats. Yeah, they vote Democrat,
but they're not full blown communists. And that's being very
very generous. But let's say we have one point three
million communist activists withinside the federal government. From inside the
federal government, we've gotten twenty thousand of them to quit.
(09:49):
Good for Trump for that they want sounds like they
want another one hundred thousand more. Okay, that's good, But
I admit I had to drop out algebra from community
college a few times. But that leaves over a million
communist activists still in positions of power in the federal government.
(10:11):
That was me being generous. Remember those are generous numbers.
I just walked you through the math. My point is
not to be a Debbie downer. My point is they've
been doing this for so so long. The roots are
so so deep. We are just starting you think this
is bad. We're starting to glimpse just the tip. This
(10:34):
is just the tip. There is so much more to
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We'll be back. You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Show.
You're welcome. It is The Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday,
(11:58):
a hump day. Remember if you miss any part of
the show, you can download the whole thing on iHeart,
Spotify iTunes. Also Jasmine Crockett the Democrat Party, Well they're
in deep, deep trouble, and yes, I remembered Chris Captain Conrad. Yeah,
I did. I kind of remember John Conrad's coming up
in ten minutes to talk about shipping and all kinds
(12:20):
of stuff. I remember before Jewish producer Chris did. He
didn't remind me anyway. Democrats have a problem, you see,
they have a couple different problems. The first massive problem
they have right now is the Trump administration. Trump two
point zero, after getting shot and arrested, had figured out
exactly how evil communists are, and they decided they're going
(12:43):
to go after the roots of communism, not just the
surface stuff like normal. They're going to go after the
government funded network of communism that has existed in this
country for a very long time. And this comes before
they go after the Apartment of Education. Donald Trump promised
many times on the campaign trail, and not just in
(13:05):
the Republican primary, in the general election. Donald Trump promised
to destroy the Department of Education. I am hearing word
now that's coming quickly. Can you imagine what Democrats are
going to do, because that's the source of really all
(13:26):
their power. What are they going to do if they
lose government funding for communist activism and if they lose
the ability to turn aiden Jaden and Braden against you. Now,
destroying the Department of Education is not enough to do that,
But what do they do? And when you combine that
with the Jasmine Crocketts of the world, meaning Jasmine Crockett
(13:52):
is one of these people, one of these squad types.
And the important thing to know about her is she's
from a district that's all Democrats, So she's in the
safest Democrat seat in the world, and she can run
her fat mouth as loud as humanly possible and say
the most despicable things humanly possible, and she's always going
(14:13):
to get re elected. The problem for the Democrat Party
is they're being assaulted. They're funding is being assaulted, as
Trump and Elon go after the government funding, but they're
being assaulted by another entity to it's from the inside.
They're being assaulted from the ones on the inside who
(14:33):
they're blocking. Any Democrat move to the middle or to
normal sea I don't think Democrats are going to move
to the middle necessarily, But in order to tone down
how they talk and try to sound more normal, try
to sound remotely palatable to an American, a normal American,
they have to change some things. You have to change
(14:56):
how you talk about things. You have to change how
you speak demograph Honestly, the Democrats have become so enamored
with DEI diversity, equity and inclusion that now white men
especially and some white women too, but white men, they
feel like the Democrat Party hates them. That's not just
(15:16):
me talking. Go look at the poll numbers. Go look
at not only the poll numbers, go look at the trends.
If you are a white man, not just an activist
like me, if you are a normy, a white man
in this country, really men in general, but white men especially,
the poll number tracks this way. White men hate Democrats
because they think Democrats hate them. Well, if you're a Democrat,
(15:37):
will set aside the morality of that and how you
should want everybody to get involved them, set aside. All
let's just talk politically about taking power nationally. If you're
a Democrat, you don't get there without white men. You don't.
It's not possible. And Democrats in part acknowledge this when
they went and grab Tim Walls from Minnesota. As dumb
and useless and weird as Tim Walls was. The Harris campaign.
(16:00):
Remember we had the internals, we said, we even played
for you. The pollster who said we're losing men. We're
losing men quickly, especially white men, were losing them. So
they went and grab Tim Wallas to try to mitigate
the white men losses. They know they are not going
to be able to win national elections if white men
think Democrats hate them. And that brings us to Jasmine Crockett.
(16:23):
And let me clarify. The Democrats, the older ones, the
Nancy Pelosi's, the Chuck Schumers, they know what I just
said is true. Internally, they're talking about it. We gotta
find a way to get white men back. We got
to stop demonizing white men. We got to stop doing this.
But Jazmine, you see, she's in a really safe seat.
So while the national Democrats are trying to figure out
(16:46):
how to keep the DEI but let white men know
we don't hate them. Well, misgluedon eyelashes has a different idea.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
It is really really a sad day.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
That was the complete wrong one. Hate myself here it
is I.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Am tired of the white tears.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Listen, if you are competent, you are not concerned when
I walk into Congress every single day. You know why
I don't feel away and why you can't make me
doubt who I am is because I know that I
had to work ten times as hard as they did
just to get into the seat. When you look and
you compare me to Marjorie Taylor Green or me to
Lauren Bobert, there is no comparison.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
And that is the life that we have always lived.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
So the only people that are crying are the mediocre
white boys that have been beaten out by people that
historically have had to work so much.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
You could roll your eyesa get bad and throw things
at the radio, that's fine, But you know what that is.
That's electoral suicide. That's what that is. If they don't
find a way to shut that woman up, they will
find a way to primary her for a Democrat party
dying to win back Michigan, Pennsylvania, in Wisconsin. This is suicide.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
I am tired of the white tears. Listen. If you are.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Competent, Chris, go ahead and write this one down. You
will see in multiple political ads next election cycle, probably
in the midterms, you will see some version of this
interview with Jasmine.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
I am tired of the white tears. Listen if you are.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
She's writing Republican ads for them The last thing I'll
say about Jasmine Crockett is I hate seeing her and
Lauren Bobert fight. I would like it if those two
would just hug it out, maybe on television. That's all
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Abortion's disgusting. It hasn't slowed down. And the bad news
is we're two years after Roe versus Wade was overturned.
It's picked up because now you can use the pill.
Now you just kill the baby in your house. How
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You could just murder your baby in your home, from
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(19:53):
on a Wednesday, a wonderful hump Day, And as promised,
I have Captain and John Conrad joining us now to
talk about actually a couple of different things. I want
to talk a lot of shipping with him. He has
a lot of thoughts about that, but he also put
up something pretty fascinating, wonderful read online today. I want
(20:14):
to lead off with this, Hey, John, I call it
the system, but I always say the system speaks with
one voice. You turn on the news and this professor
is saying the same thing as CNN, who's saying the
same thing as MSNBC is, who's saying the same thing
as Chuck Schumer. John, you want to explain that phenomenon
to me?
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Yes, I would love to, and I was just after
the show. If you can go to my Twitter, John Conrad.
I'm writing reply because a few hours later the New
York Times got their number one hit man, Ezra Cline
that counter my calling them manipulative fools. What they do
is you used to have independent journalists, and I'm a
(20:56):
ship reporter. I report about ships. So this is how
I got that site. I run gcaptain dot com, a
maritime news site. Aware the destruction of independent journalists. The
New York Times used to have a dock reporter, and
that doc reporter had a huge rolodex contact lists of
experts in the field that let him get these deep sources.
(21:19):
But starting you know, in the two thousands, with budget
cuts and Craigslist and then Obama really nailed this, they
got rid of those specialists. So there's no longer like
a treasury journalist or a maritime journalist, and they got
these generalists. So what they have is these bureau chiefs
around the country who are looking at local news and
(21:40):
when they see something that might hurt the narrative or
explode around the country, they send it to the editor
of the New York Times, who has an editorial meeting
with the top editors, and they decide on the narrative,
how are they going to spin this story to make
it usually best for the Democrats. And what they do
(22:00):
then is because these generalists, you know, these reporters who
went to Columbia journalism school, but they don't have deep
connections that the specialists had. They kind of pre form
who the sources are. So they give the journalists. They
don't outright say we want you to tilt this left
or lie about it. They give them a pre determined
(22:23):
list of sources. You know, someone like Bill McCrystal is
a good example. Talk to this guy about it, and
they can kind of a fleevor how the bent will be.
So if they want to be hard on China, they'll
take someone on a PhD from approved think tank that's
a little hard on China. If they want to go easy,
they'll pick a source that is easy on China. And
(22:44):
then so the journalist has, you know, they er the
story that they stole from the local news or wherever
it was, and then they have, you know, this guidance
from the editor. And then on top of that, they
have these sources that are going to you know, manipulate
the story. And then occasionally it's usually organic, they push
(23:06):
it out and then everyone all of the Hollywood and
the media and the bloggers and all the left on
X they read the New York Times to come up
with the narrative, and then they go out and they
distribute it, and how they control this narrative because everyone's
independent is basic reward, carrot and stick. So if you
(23:31):
copy the narrative, you get awards, you get a pull,
a serprise, or a book deal, or maybe it's just
travel to the Paris office to work on a thing.
If you buck the narrative, as a number have done,
then they are going to punish you. First, they're going to,
you know what, reassign you to the local news in
New York. You know that people don't read, and if
(23:53):
you continue to buck the narrative, they may fire you.
And then if you continue to buck the narrative, then
they are going to put you on the Wikipedia Blacklist.
And once you're on the Wikipedia Blacklist, I know because
I'm on it, then Google takes that blacklist, sucks it up,
and every time there's a search result for an article, well,
(24:14):
when there's one by John Conrad, they're going to bury
that on page three because the Wikipedia Blacklist says and
so there's no fingerprint because Google didn't say, hey, we didn't,
we didn't penalize John or anyone else for being anti narrative.
You know, we got it from Wikipedia, and the Wikipedia
comes up with these weird sources, you know. For me,
(24:35):
they said I spanned it I wrote, which means I
wrote too many maritime articles on Wikipedia, and so they
said I linked it. That's how I got blacklisted. But
the things different. And then if you're really bad, someone
like our friend Jack pozek Uh, you know, they'll say
you're a Russian agent and they're going to full smear campaign,
which in his case is ridiculous because he's literally a
(24:57):
US Navy interlawser.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
With John Conrad, Captain John Conrad obviously a shipping ban
but I wanted to ask him about this first and foremost.
I swear we are going to get to shipping at
some point, John, But I found your writing on this
to be really, really fascinating and revealing. It's something I've
talked about a lot, so it sounds to me like
what you're describing, and feel free to correct me if
I'm wrong. Is what a lot of people, myself included,
(25:22):
referred to as the hive mind. How it's not necessarily
one human being or one entity deciding things, but the
hive mind itself has decided these are the carrots, and
if you choose these carrots, you will be elevated to
hire ritchier positions, even go to Paris one day. If
you reject our carrots, then you will get the whip
and you will find yourself covering the winter moon and Anchorage,
(25:46):
Alaska in January.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Don't have that right, absolutely correct, But it is more
centralized than that, so you have you know, it's like
the mafia with the capo don's and the thing. And
here you know, in my example, I say four star
generals New York Times BBC, and you know in other
countries too, Der Spiegel, these liberal things, you know, they're
all meeting and talking at conferences and kind of predicting this, right,
(26:11):
and then they write they're kind of independence. So they
whoever they is controlling it, the blob, the elite doesn't
tell them. It's more corrective action. So if the New
York Times gets something wrong that the blog doesn't like,
you know, someone within the deep state, maybe it's Obama,
we don't know who will call the editor and help,
call all those friends at the other magazine and say hey,
we got to change this narrative. So they like as
(26:34):
light a touch as possible, right, so there are no fingerprints,
and they trust these four star generals New York Times
editor in chief, MPR editor in chief to kind of
handle things on their own, and they only step in
when there's corrective action, and of course to punish the
low level soldiers, the journalists out in the field.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
How about that? He is John Conrad. Make sure you
go read his stuff. Now, let's shift years and actually
get on what I told you I wanted to talk about,
and that is something you are an expert on shipping.
I'm going to ask the most open ended question you've
ever been asked, But what are your shipping concerns right now?
For US?
Speaker 5 (27:15):
All massive concerns. So China not only has a larger
navy than the United States, and everyone you know says,
well the US has more missiles or we got better training.
That's true, but how do we if there's a war overseas?
People forget the troops have to get over there, and
if there's contested airspace, you can't fly inm so you
(27:37):
have to ship them over there. Well, China has over
three thousand merchant ships carrying supplies, bullets, food, fuel, and
everything else. The United States only has eighty three in
international service, and none of these ships have any defenses.
Against drones or missiles like the sea wiz gatling gun
on the navy. We don't have any of that. So
(27:59):
as we're seeing in the Red Sea, we can't even
get the ships past the HOUTHI so how if we
can't get our commercial eighty three, which isn't enough past
the hoothies, how are they going to get over to
Taiwana or Okinawa to bring the soldiers and the bullets
and everything else if there.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Is a war, three thousand ships to our eighty three,
and our eighty three sound like they're virtually defenseless. I'll
tell you what, John, I already I already kept you
on for ten Do you have another few minutes on
the back end of this break to answer a couple
more shipping questions? If not, that's fine.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
I have as much time as you need. Jessam, I'm
happy to be here. Thank you for inviting me.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
We are going to talk about our shipping a little
bit more depth here in just a moment. Before I
get to that, it's been all kinds of history talk tonight.
It's all kinds of history talk period on this show.
Do you know I love it? Probably that's one of
the main reasons I fell in love with Hillsdale College.
Hillsdale College is one of those things where my disgust
(29:02):
with the university system was rising at the same time
my impassionate love for history was rising. And then you
see this wonderful university that everyone, every parent wants their
kids to get into, Hillsdale. Well, I can't get your
kids into Hillsdale. I probably can't get mine into Hillsdale,
but I can give you a free education from Hillsdale,
at least some of it. They're offering more than forty
(29:25):
free online courses for all of us, not just for
kids young, oh, all of us. There's no cost. Hillsdale
dot edu slash Jesse. You want to go nerd out
on Roman history, go do it. You want to go
nerd out the Book of Genesis, go do it. The
history of the ancient Christian Church, go do it. No cost.
(29:48):
It's made for Chris and you. Hillsdale dot Edu slash Jesse.
We'll be back. Get the Cure for Rhinos week days
with the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse Kelly
Show with that the Jaws soundtrack. Chris, that's so dark
right now now, I'm freaked out everyone's freaked out. Anyway,
(30:09):
we're are back with John Conrad. Captain John Conrad talked
a little bit about the government corruption and media corruption
really just a little bit ago, but we're focusing now
on his particular area of expertise. One that fascinates me.
It's always fascinating me shipping. So John, you just laid
out that China has three thousand merchant ships. We have
eighty three and ours are completely undefended. So eighty three
(30:32):
Chinese missiles and we have zero. Can you start with this?
How did that happen?
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Well, it's interesting you at the Hillsdale College because I
was talking to Eric Prince and he went to the
Naval Academy and he actually left the Naval Academy to
go to Hillsdale because he thought he would learn more
about ships there. So they really focused on the warships,
the guns, the missiles. But what really makes a nation
powerful is control of trade. Ninety percent of everything comes
(31:02):
on ships, and you have these choke points that you control.
So Gibraltar, that's why the Panama Canal is so important.
Greenland to get up to the Arctic. Singapore Street, and
you know, the Navy's just been laser focused on warships,
carriers and are straw and they're the best in the nation.
But they've completely pushed the US merchant Marine out of
(31:24):
their mind. They've they've cut out their entire budget. No
one cares about it. They've they've outsourced a lot of
the regulations to the absolutely corrupt un maritime body in London,
the IMO. And so you know, China saw that China
doesn't necessarily care what it attacks. It goes after our
weakest lengths. It wants to fill and the things we're
(31:46):
really bad at. So it's put this enormous amount of
money into the shipbuilding, the trade to controlling choke points
by having partnerships with Iran, who then partners with the Huthis.
So this is, you know, it's the navy's laser focus
on warships. And then there are periment prompts. Right, the
(32:08):
Navy can only spend what they spent. And we used
to build the carriers and battleships. Battleships like the Brooklyn
Navy Yard was a Navy it was a government shipyard
with government markers. Now all of the Navy ships are
built by corporations like HII or General dynamics and they
(32:29):
have to go get money from Wall Street. Well, Wall
Street found out it's more profitable to put money in
China shipyards because they have a higher turnover rate. And
you know, if the inventory is just sitting on the
shelves for six years, you're not making money. So they
pull money out of US shipyards and put it over
to China. And that's that's kind of the basics of
(32:50):
how we got here.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Okay, So again we're speaking with John Conrad. So if
the money, the easy money is in Chinese shipping for
this is American shippings. That's why our shipping's underfunded and
China's is overfunded. Why is that a they have slave
labor thing? Has it just come down to that.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
No, it's you know, these are big shipyards. You have
to dig out like the graving dock, so the ship
goes in and then they flood out the water. It's
big Quane's, big industrial equipment, and that has a capital cost.
So if you if you're going to buy a dry dock,
you have to go to Wall Street and say I
need ten billion dollars for a dry dock, and then
you build the dry dock and you've got to maintain
(33:33):
it for twenty years. You need to work for it.
You got to build that equipment. That equipment RUSS. It
has a lot of money associated with it. But instead
you can hire some one like McKinsey Consultants to do
a give them ten billion dollars for a study on
why our shipyards don't work. And then they complete the
study and they give it to the DD and guess what,
(33:53):
the problem is still there. So they got to go
back to McKinsey and say, well, the problem's worse now,
and mckinzy goes, hey, give us twenty billion dollars. I
don't these are hypothetical numbers. I don't want to focus
on Mackensey. It could be any of the defense contractors.
But the big thing is if they do a study,
or if they do a piece of software or something else,
they don't have to maintain it for the next twenty years.
(34:14):
So they don't particularly want to built ships Jesse. They
would rather do studies and then think tank reports and
other things that they can generate revenue and not have
the long term maintenance costs.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Speaking with John Conrad, Okay, John, one more question and
then I'll let you go tell me about icebreakers. Why
I should care, why they matter?
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Well, you care about icebreakers because Donald Trump said the
other day we are going to build forty and this
is a key component of the Greenland strategy. So there's
the Greenland Iceland UK gap. If you've seen in the
movie Diplomat, the whole theory of that whole thing is
the importance of this gap, and it really is. You know,
I don't particularly like that show, but it is that
(34:56):
important because you know where if you control these choke
points to the Red Sea and everything else, if we're
able to shut him down, well, China can just go
up into the Arctic, and Russia has forty ice breakers.
So we really need to come up with a Maritimes
strategy to secure these choke points, getting up the Barren
(35:18):
Straight and the Greenland Iceland Gap. So we need these
ice breakers to be able to go up there, and
none of our warships if we had to fight, if
the you know, Chinese navy goes to hide up there
or the Russian navy, how are we going to get
up there if we don't have ice breakers. So fortunately,
Michael Waltz is the creator of the Ships for America Act,
(35:40):
which is going to have reinvest in shipyards in the
merchant marine and those dirty logistics ships and things like
fireboats which we don't have in San Diego and resulting
in the big bonhom Richard fire. So he put this
through Congress and then Trump picked him for National Security Council.
And you know, I can't go into details, but Trump
has big plans, not just icebreakers, but other ships. And
(36:03):
he did one more thing. He instead of getting a
Navy guy and remember they're very focused on that kinetic warfare,
he got one of the best hitch fund managers in
the world, John Feeling, to come up with a financial
plan in order to amateurize these maintenance and get that
money flow stop to China and redirected into the into
(36:25):
the United States. So I'm telling you, Jesse, I I
can't reveal some of the you know, secret plans behind
the thing, but I am extremely excited about what's coming.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
John Conrad. That was freaking awesome. Thanks for being patient
with us, making us smarter, John real quick plug your website.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Please gecaptain dot com and I'm on Twitter, John Conrad,
owen word Conrad with a k G.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Captain donor dot com go find him on Twitter. John
Conrad freaking awesome. Thank you brother, thank you. Hey, Chris,
I've got an ice breaker, do you know that? You
know what the ultimate icebreaker is. You walk up to somebody.
Hear me out, hear me out. You walk up to
somebody and say, hey, do you have a cell phone?
(37:17):
And they're gonna say, well, yeah, I have a cell
phone because everyone answers yes, right. You always want to
ask a question you know the answer to in sales,
you say hey do you have a cell phone? And
they look right back at you and they say, okay,
yeah I have a cell phone. Why. That's when you
tell them, did you know that phone you're holding right now?
(37:38):
Because they always grab their phone, you're funding communism. That's
what you can tell them. It's the ultimate icebreaker. I'm
sure it works great on dates, although I've never had
the chance. And then what that does is it opens
up a door to you to tell them about pure talk.
You see. That's when you say, hey, I look it's
just you and me in this elevator. I'm here to
(37:58):
let you know you don't have to fund communism with
your cell phone. Every month, you can switch to pere talk.
You can pay like half. You'll be on the same network,
so we can still talk to each other by phone
if we end up getting together or whatever. But pure
Talk is the way to go. See that's what you
call an icebreaker, Chris that or you can talk about
(38:21):
your ice maker a right anyway. Pure talk also has
a free phone. You can tell them that right now,
I phone fourteen or whatever. Pure talk is the best.
Dial pound two five zero and say Jesse Kelly pound
two five zero, Say Jesse Kelly, we still have an
hour left. Isn't that exciting? Can't believe I'm still alive.
(38:41):
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