February 6, 2025 • 47 mins
Jesse Kelly is back and here to cover a series of shocking announcements from President Trump, starting with the gutting of various government agencies. Jesse then speaks with Josh Hammer about a major move in the middle east and what it means for America. This comes as President Trump signed another executive order that will impact parents and children across the board. Allie Beth Stuckey is Jesse's guest to react to that. Plus, a conversation about tariffs and the trade war with John Carney.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Let's talk about why the communists are freaking out about
this us AID stuff. Let's talk to Aliabeth Stucky, John
Carney about tariffs, Josh Hammer about the Trump hotel and
Gaza all that more coming up on. I'm right, okay,
(00:25):
I'm back. A little flu bug. Take me down for
a couple of days. So I'm finding here and let's
discuss something. In fact, let's have a big discussion tonight
about communist activism. Who funds it, who organizes it, how
does it work? Because what we're seeing right now, what's
been a hot topic for the last forty eight seventy
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two hours.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I know because I've been laying in.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Bed dying is all this USAID stuff. USAID the government
organization that takes in our money and hands it out
to whoever.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
They want across the globe.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Now, I want you to pause for a moment, and
I want you to think about what the last two
weeks has been.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's been two weeks Trump's been president.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Think about just pause for a moment and think about
all the things he's done.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Remember that fat stack.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Of executive orders first day January sixth, Pards and d I,
this and this and that, all kinds of things have
been done in the first two weeks. Now, let me
ask you this, now that you're thinking about that, how
many things has Trump done.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
That has prompted a reaction from Chuck Schumer like this.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
We cannot we cannot allow Elon Musk and a small
group of people to secretly, behind closed doors, take away
our privacy, take away our dollars, take away everything we have.
We are gonna fight this fight. I am gonna stand
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with you in this fight.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
And we will win.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
We will win.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
We will win.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
We will win.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
We will win.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
We will we won't rest.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
We won't rest, we won't rest.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
We won't rest.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
A little bit. Cringey, but you get what I'm saying.
Why that wasn't just Chuck Schumer. I could sit here
for an hour and play for you all the most
powerful Democrats in the country rallying, protesting.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Oh my gosh, USA, we have to have USA.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Jeez, don't take away our USA.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Why the freak out? It's been two weeks, It's been
all kinds of things Trump has done. Why is it
the USA?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I mean, gosh, they're out there on the microphone sounded
like the Democrats of.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
A couple of years ago, we got taken.
Speaker 7 (02:50):
To the streets, shut down the city, were agitating.
Speaker 8 (02:59):
We will see in the courts, in Congress, in the streets.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Elon Musk is a Nazi lepore.
Speaker 9 (03:06):
Baby.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
We are gonna be in your face, We are gonna
be on your asses, and we are gonna make sure
we're gonna make sure you understand what democracy looks like.
Speaker 10 (03:21):
This, ain't it.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
So let me tell you something, mister Trump. You gonna
learn a few lessons from us. And I'm gonna be
the first one you and your little friend off of Twitter,
y'all about to find out.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
All right, better recognize why all these things have been done?
Speaker 11 (03:47):
Why?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Okay, so let's have a talk.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Shall we just a little analogy before we move on
and talk to Josh Hammer? And now the best stuck
you in other things. I want you to picture this.
That's a great depression. Okay, it's the Great Depression. And
you've seen, you've read books, maybe you watched movies about
how guys would line up in the morning trying to
just get some work that day.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Line up, you go.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Down on the dock, you line up, and you try
to get picked that day. And there's a guy always
there's a guy sitting there who works for the company,
and it's his job to pick the people.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Hey, you showed up early, I'll pick you. Hey, I'll
pick you.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So he's the one who gets to pick who gets
to work all day. And sometimes that same guy who
was picking.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Hey, you, you, you, and you and you you can work.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Sometimes that same guy at the end of the day,
he's the one who hands out the cash from that day.
Because they used to pay people daily during the depression,
people had to eat. Hey bob, here you go. Here's
your money, and here's your money. You're with me, okay.
So you are that guy, the guy who gets to
pick people, the guy who gets to pay people. And
it's been this way for years. No matter what the
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dock company was doing, no matter who was managing it,
no matter who was owning it, no matter what they
were doing being unloading a bay of it didn't matter
at all. You were the guy holding on to that
choke point of power.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And with that choke point of power over several years,
what could you do with it?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
It didn't matter what the manager screamed, with the owner's scream,
pick your friends. Hey, hey, bob, hey, come on in Hey, Jimmy,
my cousin, Come on, Jimmy. I'll get you in because
you're the one who gets to choose. Didn't matter what
their management decided. You're the one who gets to choose.
And on the way out the door, you have the
bag full of money. Maybe cousin Jimmy only earned fifty
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bucks that day because he's cousin Jimmy. Maybe give you
a little bit of it back, Maybe you give him
a hundred.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You have the money.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Whatever the rules are, whatever the laws are, that's someone
else's problem. You have the money, you see, And then
I want you to imagine this, after years of this
total control, total control, who comes in, who leaves.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Where the money goes?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
The manager shows up and he introduces you to someone
who's going to do your job just like you. In fact,
he's going to take over half the time. How offended
would you feel? How threatened would you feel? How angry
would you feel? What you're seeing right now, the collective
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freak out from democrats across the United States of America
at Donald Trump going after USAID one. It's the very
tip of the iceberg, meaning there is this massive, massive
iceberg where you the taxpayer at the federal, state and
local level are funding the communist activism you see in
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the streets. And what Democrats are looking at right now is,
for the first time in my adult life, in my
forty three years on this planet, they're looking at finally
a GOP administration that doesn't just issue orders executive.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Order here and well, this is the law, and then.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Sits back watching these filthy communists recap them from the inside.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Those days are over now. The GOP has finally figured
out that the communist activists who have occupied positions of
power in our government well over ninety percent Democrat. They
have been making all the decisions.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
On behalf of the company, no matter who.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Gets elected, and they've been doing this for decades. For decades,
didn't matter Republican Democrat, didn't matter. The various communists and
various agencies across the federal government and your state government
across the federal government. They've simply decided, well, I don't
care if Donald Trump wins. I don't care if Joe
Biden wins. I don't care if I have communist activism
to do, and nothing will stop me. You see, I
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control the paychecks, I control who comes in, who's going
to get that government contract.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I control what.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Money goes out, where that money goes.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Nobody will ever stop me.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
No one has ever even taken an interest in stopping me.
And after decades and decades and decades of this with
Democrats have done very sharply, I should point out, although
it's corrupt, is they've figured out a system that can
domestically and internationally take your money from you, take taxpayer money,
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and hand it out to their friends, funding Democrat activism.
You and I've had this talk a million times on
the show that the Democrat activism you see in the streets,
the protesting, the rioting, but it doesn't matter whether it's
a rally on Capitol Hill or they're burning down foot Locker.
Ninety nine point nine percent of the communist activism you
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see in the streets is funded and organized, not organic.
It's not people just mad about Saint George Floyd. It's funded,
it's organized. Now you know that because we've talked about
it many times on the show. But what you may
not know, and what might make you uncomfortable, is how
much of that communist activism on our streets and foreign
soil is organized and funded by you, by the taxpayer,
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because years of neglect from the voter has left Democrats
in charge of everything, handing out those envelopes of money
and deciding who gets that next contract. An ugly corrupt
criminal system that is finally getting exposed. And that's why
you didn't see a collective communists freak out when Donald
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Trump was signing executive orders getting rid of DEI here,
doing this to the drug cartels there. But he walks
into USAID and starts eliminating these positions. He starts investigating
exactly what they've been doing with the money, and immediately
it's time.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
To take it to the streets. You better recognize.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
That's why they freaked out, because the actual power they have,
the power of hoovering up your money, that is what's
being threatened. All that may have made you uncomfortable, but
I am right. If we fund, we fund our enemies,
we do done it forever. Who do you have a
(10:11):
cell phone with? You have AT and T, Verizon, T Mobile.
But this doesn't just apply to the government. We fund
our enemies. If you have AT and T, T Mobile,
you fund your enemy. I have pure talk. I don't
do that. Pure Talk is the patriotic cell phone company.
(10:31):
They're on the same five G network, so you're not
losing coverage or anything like that. They are patriotic. They
don't fund Black Lives Matter, they don't fund Planned parenthood.
They don't take your money and use it against you
and your values. Pure Talk, their CEO, fought for this
country in Vietnam. I have an amazing cell phone company
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with the same coverage you do. Puretalk dot com slash jessetv.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
We'll be back.
Speaker 12 (11:08):
The US will take over the Gaza Strip and we
will do a job with it too. We'll own it
and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded
bombs and other weapons on the site. Level the site
and get rid of the destroyed buildings. Level it out,
create an economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of
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jobs and housing for the people of the area. Do
a real job, do something different. Just can't go back.
If you go back, it's going to end up the
same way it has for a hundred years.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Okay, what do we think about it. Let's talk to
Josh Hammer about this next.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Joining me now, Josh Hammer, host of the book America
on Tryal also wrote a book about this area, is
Real and Civilization.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Okay, Josh.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
At this point in time, with the winning from the
Trump administration, I am very hesitant to lob any criticisms
or even really concerns out there have been so happy
with this two weeks, but I have concerns.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
To put it mildly, the people.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Of Gaza are not dying for new job opportunities.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
They're just dying for Allah Jesse. That's very well put.
Speaker 13 (12:23):
Actually, look, this was not on anyone's Bingo card, I
think would be a polite way of saying it. It was
definitely not on my bing go card. I mean he
was he was standing there next to Benjamin Aintiniah, who
I'm reasonably certain that this was not on Benjamintania Who's
Bingo card either. I mean, this is not a thing
that's been discussed. I mean, there's been a lot of
conversations since October seven. There's been a lot of conversations
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going back much further than October seven, as to what
will have to happen in Gaza in the long term,
assuming correctly that Hamas cannot stay in power, but the
idea that the United States would come in and basically
build the Trump Hotel Communists or or the Trump resorts
in Rafa. You know, this was not something that anyone
was thinking about. So I don't know, he is the
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honest answer. I don't know exactly what you think of
this until we hear more in the way of detail.
What I know for sure, Jesse, is that the United
States should definitely not go in there unless until the
actual Arabs there are out. So it seems to me
like what Donald Trump is saying here when it comes
to Gaza. This is all basically contingent on his related
proposal slash his mandate. It seems to Egypt and Jordan
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that they take in the Arabs there in Gaza. So
from that perspective, I think it actually could work out well.
I think the broader point here, Jesse, is that Donald
Trump is a distructor. He is someone who takes old
out mooted chivolets. He takes old orthodoxies that have become
stale to the extent that they were ever viable in
the first place, and he likes to shatter it. That's
how we got the Abraham Accords peace steal back in
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twenty twenty. For decades and decades these two state solution cartel,
the foreign policy establishment from both sides of the isle
in Washington, DC said, oh, the only way that Israel's
ever going to get normal relations with any more Arab
countries is to give the Palestinians a state, and Trump
and Nettunyahu tag team the first time around that basically
said screw that, we're actually going to go outside in
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forget the Palaestinians for a second. Here, let's strengthen Israel.
Let's strengthen YOUUAE, Bahrain and so forth. Here we'll get
this anti Iran alliance. And then many of the Palestinians
will come begging for scraps with the table. So is
that kind of creative outside the box thinking that I
think is going on here? I would be lying if
I said to you that I see exactly where this
is going, because I don't, but I guess I will
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say this. I mean, Trump is right. Insofar as Gaza
is twenty five miles of beautiful Mediterranean sea beachfront property,
it does have enormous potential. When Israel withdrew there in
two thousand and five, they said that the Arabs had
the potential to turn it into a Singapore on the Mediterranean.
That was the popular phrase at the time. We see
what they did with it. They've turned it into an
Islamis terrorist bastionion obviously, But who have I to doubt
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Donald Trump at this point there. I want to see
where this is going. I'm not sure how serious it is,
but I have decently high hopes.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I guess, yeah, I guess we shall see. All right,
we're moving on.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
There's so much I have to tackle with you Iran.
Iran famously wants to kill Donald Trump, that wanted to
kill him for quite some time. Trump dropped this little
nugget to a reporter who he was just Iran and
their proxeys who threatened to retaliate against you and your
team by killing you guys for taking out so long.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Well, they haven't done that, and that would be a
terrible thing for them to do, not because of me.
If they did that, they would be obliterated. That would
be the end. I've left instructions. If they do it,
they get obliterated, there won't be anything left.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Josh, what does that mean? You know?
Speaker 11 (15:56):
Jesse?
Speaker 13 (15:57):
Get again, I kind of throw my hands up and
I say, I'm not entirely sure what the guy has
exactly in mind here. It seems to me like he's
saying that if you succeed in taking me out, And
we know for a fact that Iran has been trying
for a long time to take out Donald Trump. They've
been trying to take a lot of people from his
first administration as well, in response to the assassination of
Kasaem Sulimani at the Baghdada Rock Airport in twenty twenty.
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So it seems like he's saying that, if God forbid,
you are successful, I have put instructions in place to
my successor, which I guess would be jd vance to
go ahead and nuclear country to high hell. I mean,
it seems to me like that is actually what he
is saying there. Obviously, God willing this never happens. God willing,
the Iranian regime will not be successful in any of
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its assassination attempts extra territorily, let alone against someone like
Donald Trump. There, So I hate that we even having
this conversation in the first place. There, But it seems
like Trump basically is not going to brook any nonsense
when it comes to the Irani regime, and certainly he
and Netignankhu are on the same page there, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Josh, where is Iran right now?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Meaning the mulahs, Well, how is their hold on power?
I know, Joe Biden being in office kind of gave
them a thread to hang on to Trump being in
office not so much. So where does Iran go from here?
Speaker 11 (17:16):
Well, they're in a tough spot.
Speaker 13 (17:18):
Look, I mean, Iran was obviously rooting for the Biden,
for the Biden regime, the Biden Harris regime to win
this election. They were clearly rooting for the Democratic Party.
I mean, ever since Barack Obama came into power in
two thousand and eight, the Democratic Party has been obsessed
with realigning American Middle East interests towards Iran, towards Katar,
towards the Muslim Brotherhood, away from our traditional allies like Egypt,
Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt and so forth. There and tragically,
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in many ways, they've actually been successful, but they've not
been wholly successful.
Speaker 12 (17:45):
You know.
Speaker 13 (17:46):
I mentioned the Abraham Accords earlier. The Abraham Cords were
a major anti Iran alliance that came into being there.
I think at this point, the Irani regime is hurting
they've been having pretty bad inflation recently.
Speaker 14 (17:57):
There.
Speaker 13 (17:58):
At this point, the best thing that the United States
can do is to put back at the place the
crippling sanctions that were part of the maximum pressure campaign
they called it the first time around. Donald Trump just
did that yesterday. He signed to Loss some of the
harshest sanctions that any president has put on a foreign
country in recent memory. So more of that, please. I
think that is probably as basically what we need to do.
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I certainly don't think any kind of bombs should start
flying anytime, stooning or anything like that, but crippling sanctions
I think would be a nice start. Make that regime heard,
and God willing, the people will rise up and top
of them.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Josh Usaid has been all over the news for a
few days, and wow, the Democrat reaction to it has
been quite revealing.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Here's a bit of it.
Speaker 10 (18:39):
We talked about Trump wanting to be a dictator on
day one, and here we are. This is what the
beginning of dictatorship looks like.
Speaker 8 (18:52):
Elon Musk, you didn't create us AID. The United States
Congress did for the American people and does like. Elon
Musk did not create USAID. He doesn't have the power
to destroy it, and who's gonna stop him? We are,
We're gonna stop him.
Speaker 14 (19:13):
This is a constitutional crisis that we are in today.
Let's call it.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
What it is.
Speaker 14 (19:21):
The people get to decide how we defend the United
States of America. The people get to decide how their
tax mayer money is spent. Elon Musk does not get
to decide.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
Also, know this is just the beginning. If DOJA tax
USAID today, then you can be sure they'll move on
to another target tomorrow. Who knows, maybe there'll be the
Postal Service, or the IRS, or even the Social Security
Administration they could be next, or maybe our national security agencies.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Uh sorry, I just had to laugh when I heard
him complain that maybe we'll go after the IRS.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
That's one.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Two, Josh, It's interesting in two weeks, Donald Trump's administration
has attacked many, many, many, many many things from the
previous administration, from previous administrations, but nothing has prompted the
kind of reaction we got from US aimed.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Why is that, Josh?
Speaker 13 (20:16):
Yeah, you know, Jesse, I think we're both just waiting
to hear what Chuck Schumer is aroused about today.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
You know that that was a pretty that.
Speaker 13 (20:23):
Was a pretty funny Freudi and Slipp recently wasn't no,
But I mean, I mean listening to Chuck Schumer talk
about how God forbid we actually go after the irs,
that kind of reminds me of this left wing media
report that I was reading the other day about Donald
Trump Neilon Musk going after us AID where they basically said, oh,
they actually might have less money to fund for LGBT
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rights overseas and for DEI initiatives, And like, I'm reading
this article and I'm like, you're talking about this like
it's a bad thing. I mean, we're just not on
the same page here. You know, at the twenty twenty
four election, you had a lot of more sober centurist Democrats,
people like on Fetterman in Pennsylvania, people like Jimmy Carville,
the Old Rage and Cagun down in Louisiana, people like
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that who said, you know what, this party really needs
to give up on just calling everything a constitutional crisis.
I'm calling Donald Trump a fascist dictator day in and
day out, and just getting back to basic politics, economic policy,
bread and butter, blue collar working class stuff, all the above,
and now here we are less than three weeks into
Donald Trump's second term, and Jesse, they've learned nothing. They've
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learned literally nothing whatsoever. If us AID, an organization that
last I check was giving over half a billion dollars
to fund ESG initiatives environmental social governance basically deiing for investing.
They were funding that in Africa. They were funding DEI
in Burma to the tune of like forty million dollars.
I think if you guys are freaking out about this,
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I mean, I can't wait to see the reaction when
Donald Trump and in law Musk start to burn down
the United States Department of Education there. I mean, they
are going to be in the streets rioting. And I'm
just going and then sit back at my desk here
and kick my feet in the table and have a
nice little whiskey and just enjoy the rid in my friend,
it is enjoyable.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Josh, see your brother come back soon. All right, let's
talk to Ali Best Stucky next. Ali Best Stuckies on
the forefront has been on the forefront of cultural issues
for a long time.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
She has a lot of.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Things to say about what's happening right now, very interesting stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Before we get to Ali. Let's get to this.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You know what's been my saving grace is I've been
SICKI pooh for the last couple of days. Some dream
powder from Beam. You just want to sleep. That's all
you want to do is sleep. And so when I
want to sleep, I go have a couple of hot chocolate,
but my hot chocolate especially.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
You see it's dream powder in there. But I want
to sleep.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I take a little cup of milk, warm it up
in the microwave, and then I just pour a little
scoop and dream powder in there. And it's got natural
things in it, like melatonin. I mix it all up
and sip on this delicious cup of hot chocolate, and
I just sleep like a little baby. And man, what
a difference it makes.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
In your whole life when you sleep all the time.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
You want that about up to forty percent off shopbeam
dot com. Slash Jesse Kelly, We'll be back, Okay. So
let's talk about culture war things, because these things didn't
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suddenly become unimportant just because we're getting some victories and
running the filthy comedies out of the government. They're as
important now as ever. What kind of culture are we?
What kind of culture do we want to be and
so Trump he signs an executive order banning men from
women's sports. Pam Bondy sworn in today. Hey Pam, go
and force it all. This is good, But I hate
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to be old Jesse, old cynic.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I have a couple complaints. One, why are we still
pretending that the whole training thing is real? Anyway? It's
it's not real.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
It's damaging, even when they're not beating up women in volleyball.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
That's one. And two.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Why did we need the president to come in and
handle that? What if we lost the election? Why didn't
the American people reject this stuff outright?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Joining me now?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Ali Besstucky, author of the book Toxic Empathy.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Okay, Ali, I'm happy. I'm assuming you're happy.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I don't want to obviously make assumptions about your mental state,
but I'm assuming you're pretty pleased.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
But I I do have questions and concerns.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Yeah, I think that you raise a really good point.
Maybe a little bit of a pessimistic point. I hate
how you're bringing us down as we're trying to ride
this high vistory, but you're right. I mean, dads should
have set dads should have been the one, so I
need their own executive orders in saying no, my daughter
is not going to play volleyball against this dude that asked.
Speaker 9 (24:46):
Her to homecoming two years ago. Like, that's not happening.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
We are not going to allow these boys to go
into our women's locker rooms or else there's going to
be a really big problem. That's a good point. It
should not have been the pressident of the Unite Its States.
We're not even talking and politicians on a local level,
but the President of the United States having to say, hey,
stop sending your men into girls' locker rooms.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
We're not going to tolerate it.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
That It is a really sad indication of where we are,
especially where Christians are, because I think Christians are some
of the most cowardly people on this subject.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, and in fact, you just walked right into my
next question.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I've been thinking about this. Where was the church in
all this? Now?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
I know this is something that you talk about extensively,
and I'm glad you do, and it's certainly not every
church in the country, But why was there not a unified,
bold Christian voice against not just the training and women's
sports stuff, all the demonic cultural filth that has been
pushed on this country, especially in the last five to
ten years. I realized some churches have pushed back. It's
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been the furthest thing from universal and it hadn't been
that loud.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
No, you're right, and even those who consider themselves conservative Christians. Obviously,
we expect that like Anglican Bishop whatever her name is,
who you know, preached about illegal immigration and stuff to
Trump advance, to be on the side of the gender nonsense.
But you know, pastors in Texas and Tennessee and Kentucky
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who claimed to believe in the authority of Scripture only
speak up about politics when they can lament, you know,
the death of George Floyd or join in on you know,
anti deportation protests. Those people are the problem, the mushy middle,
the cowardly evangelicals who allow progressive social media algorithms to
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dictate their compassion and outrage, who are now speaking up
so courageously against deportations, but had nothing to say when
the Abiden administration literally took away school lunches from poor
public schools because they weren't allowing boys into girls' bathrooms
for the rewrite of the time nine under the dividing
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nine men.
Speaker 9 (27:01):
Most Christians had nothing to say about that. It's because
they want to be liked.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
It's because they, just like Adam and Eve, want to
be like God. I mean, they want to have the
power to be the arbiter of right and wrong, and
they want to escape the consequences of sin.
Speaker 9 (27:19):
All of that.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
There's so many different reasons for it, but a lot
of it probably is just cowardice and wanting.
Speaker 9 (27:24):
To be liked by the world.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Ali, I'm glad you brought up the charity portion of
the charity. I used that air fingers quote on that
the charity portion of open borders, because it's starting to
get exposed as the Trump administration digs through these NGOs.
How many Christian slash Catholic charities are out there that
are really just set up to violate the sovereignty and
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laws of the United States of America. And it's really
making all of us look bad. To be honest with you,
I can't tell you how many emails I get from
people who are just these freaking Catholics are screwing everything up.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
It's it's really awful.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
How did the church get to a place where they're
doing this crap, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
Well, I do think there are so many different aspects
of it. Some of it is just like the love
of money, and we read that the love of money
is the root of all kinds of evil. And we
see that the USAID is funding such a large portion
of organizations like World Relief, Catholic charities, even Jewish charities.
They are lining their pockets, they are getting paid to
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be a part of the trafficking process of illegal aliens
and children even across the border. So part of it
is just plain old as time corruption. And then another
part of it is that toxic empathy which tells you
that in order to be a good person, you have
to be progressive, you have to be permissive, you have
to affirm sin, you have to validate lies, you have
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to support destructive policies because it makes this particular purported
victim feel better. And so it's just another form of deception.
But that toxic empathy piece, I think, is how that deception.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
Is manifesting itself in the church.
Speaker 11 (29:09):
Today.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Let's talk about RFK Junior, because word is surprisingly he's
going to get through, got through committee.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
He's going to get.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Through And what does this mean for America's health. I
know my wife, if you get her wound up about this,
you better have about ten hours to set aside with
all the crap we have in our food and everything else.
As I'm eating a quarter pounder with cheese, what does
this mean for the rest of the country.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Yeah, you know, as a pro lifer, I've had my
concerns about RFA. There are plenty of really important things
that we disagree on. He has been, at least in
this process, said that he is going to champion whatever
policies the Trump administration wants him to champion.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
And that's a good thing.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
But when we're looking at accountability for doctors and transparency
for pharmaceutical companies, the FDA, as you said, what's in
our food, what's in our scenes, what's in our medications,
the direct to consumer advertisements from the pharmaceutical companies, all
of that is corrupt and has led to worse health
outcomes in the United States. And I think that he
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is going to be extremely successful in holding these for
profit companies accountable.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
And I think that's a good thing.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
And I mean, we saw the danger of the FDA
and the CDC during COVID and God forbid there's another
so called pandemic that comes along, I would be very
confident with RFK at the helm.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, we did so well during the last pandemic. Okay,
So you did some digging on your show about USAID,
and obviously that's been in the news hot and heavy
for about forty eight hours because communists are freaking out
about it.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
What did you find?
Speaker 6 (30:53):
Yes, I found that we are funding with our tax
dollars work place DEI programs in Serbia, that we are
also funding racial equity musicals in Ireland, that we have
set up trans services.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
Whatever that means in.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Colombia, and so all across the world we are making
sure that people in poor countries bow down to progressive ideology.
I found something that I already know that you already
know that actually progressives love colonialism, they love imperialism. They
love going into poor countries and telling them that they have.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
To assimilate to American progressive culture.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
As long as colonialism and imperialism means that they get
to push sexual.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
Degeneracy, they are good with it.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
And that's what they're doing in Uganda, that's what they're
doing in the Congo, that's what they're doing in South America.
If you do not abide by the principles of LGBTQ whatever,
then you get your money taken away.
Speaker 9 (31:57):
That's what the USAID.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Has existed for Ali.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I don't think people really understand and accept how much
of the filthy communist activism, including all the LGBTQ Air
Force stuff, is funded by our taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
They just they don't realize.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
They don't want to talk about how long Democrats have
cemented this system in place where you and me get
to fund all that scrap.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
No, I don't think they know, and honestly, I did
not know the extent of it.
Speaker 9 (32:28):
And the USAID. They're not just sending our money to
these countries to do these horrible things, But.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
I mean, our money is also being laundered through these
firms in DC that say that they represent the humanitarian
needs of a place like Haiti. But our tax dollars
are mostly staying in those.
Speaker 9 (32:45):
Firms and organizations. They're not even going to Haiti.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
And those firms and organizations are all arms of the
Democrat Party, and so are tax dollars. In a variety
of ways, we're actually funding the campaigns of the people
who hate us and are working against US and American interests,
and I hadn't really thought about the extent of that.
And still I started digging in to this story. And
I know a lot of people like you have been
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talking about that for a long time. But to most Americans,
like this is all very revelatory.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
ALI appreciate you. Come back soon. Oh, we have so
much more.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
We want to talk about some tariffs. Let's do that next.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Okay, so let's talk about tariffs, shall we. In fact,
let's talk about the economy in general. Donald Trump is
a very different Republican than than the type we've had.
Maybe he's your type, maybe he's not. I'm talking about economically,
but he's much more of a Teddy Roosevelt type. He's
not something new. We've never seen this before. Oh, please,
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parties change all the time. Donald Trump is very much
a Teddy Roosevelt Republican in that he believes that tariffs
are a necessary tool to protect America and American workers.
We just saw what happened recently with Mexico and Canada.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Joining me.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Now, somebody who knows a lot more about this than
I do. John Carney, Breitbart News Finance and economics editor
John I might as well just hand you the show
for about the next hour and let you dance with
glee over the tariff situation with Mexico and Canada.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Tell us what happened.
Speaker 11 (34:28):
Yeah, so Donald Trump had has a much.
Speaker 15 (34:32):
Broader view of tariffs than we've seen from the Republican
Party for quite a while. As you said, this is
historically the Republican Party's position. It was more or less
founded as a tariff party. Lincoln was a big believer
in tariffs, but so was William McKinley, who is somebody
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who Donald Trump brings up.
Speaker 11 (34:54):
All the time.
Speaker 15 (34:56):
He basically set the stage for Republican dominance of a
ma American politics for the next forty years. What happened
most recently was Donald Trump said to Mexico and Canada
that we need help on the border. We can't do
it alone. We need our neighbors to the south and
the north to help us. Help us with preventing illegal
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drugs from coming over, help us from preventing illegal aliens
from coming over. And what he said was, look, if
you guys get your act together, help us out, we
will not tear aff you. If you won't do that,
you're going to face a really high tariff twenty five percent,
and it'll climb from there if you can't bring yourself
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around to cooperating with us on boarder security. Now, a
lot of people really hoped a lot of people on
the left, even some people on the right, really hoped
that these countries would somehow resist this, that they would
say to Donald Trump, no, we're not.
Speaker 11 (35:55):
Going to do it.
Speaker 15 (35:55):
We're going to, you know, take your tariff and we'll
tear if you back. That's not what happened. What happened
was Donald Trump said, well, we're going to we're gonna
terriff you, and they said, no, don't do that.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
We'll give you.
Speaker 11 (36:09):
Help on the border. We're sending troops to the border.
Speaker 15 (36:12):
Mexico called first, said we'll send ten thousand troops to
the border, will help you out. Then Canada called up
and said us too, we'll send ten thousand troops to
the border. We will help you on the border. Now,
Donald Trump didn't say that this is good enough. He said,
we'll pause the tariffs for thirty days. See what you
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guys do, See what kind of help you're really providing
if you just, you know, if you send troops there
and they.
Speaker 11 (36:40):
Don't do anything.
Speaker 15 (36:41):
If you don't actually stop Fentanel from coming in, if
you don't really help.
Speaker 11 (36:46):
Us, the tariffs will come back.
Speaker 15 (36:48):
So the threat didn't go away, but he did say
we'll see whether you're willing to cooperate, and I think
they will be because, frankly, drug tru smuggling and human
trafficking is good for Mexico, it's not good for Canada.
Neither of them have an interest in preserving what was
happening under the Biden administration.
Speaker 11 (37:08):
So I think we're actually probably.
Speaker 15 (37:10):
Going to escape this with very little tariffs on either
Mexico or Canada, at least for the time being, because
it's in their interest to cooperate with us on this.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Okay, let's set the immigration thing aside because this begs
the question, John, and maybe you have some insight here.
As you pointed out, he didn't really stop them. He
paused them for a month. Well, well, we'll pause them
for a month and see if you're on your best behavior.
The question is, as a lover of McKinley and Roosevelt
as Trump is, as you pointed out, does he want
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to tariff them anyway?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Meaning is this coming? Is he going to find or
is it going.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
To be a month from now and he's going to say, Mexico,
you're a bunch of dirty liars. Tariffs are coming your way.
Does he want to tariff it? If so, why would
he so?
Speaker 11 (37:58):
I don't think he actually does. On a tariff Mexico
and Canada.
Speaker 15 (38:02):
Donald Trump would actually love to have Mexico be a
prosperous nation that is.
Speaker 11 (38:08):
A good neighbor to the US.
Speaker 15 (38:10):
Mexican prosperity will actually benefit the US because we'll have
fewer people wanting to come into the US from our
southern border. Canada's same thing. He wants Canada be prosperous.
I mean, he wants them to be the fifty first state.
He doesn't want them to, you know, suffer economically. I
think what he's really doing with the message to Canada
and to.
Speaker 11 (38:32):
To Mexico is sending the world a message.
Speaker 15 (38:35):
Which is that the time in which they were able
to take advantage of unfair trade practices is over and
that they are going to have to make sure that
they are complying with US demands on a whole host
of issues or they will face terrorists. A lot of this,
I think, frankly is aimed at China. China is the
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place that is actually the major threat economically to US manufacturing,
to the US economic security. So I think what we're
seeing here is a demonstration of the power of tariffs,
a gathering up of our forces, in fact, you know,
saying everybody, let's get together and cooperate economically so that
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we could stop the real monster on the world stage,
which is China.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Okay, So, John, I want to pause for a moment
on all this because I don't want to talk past
everyone to talk.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Over people's heads.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
What are these as it pertains to China, Mexico, Canada,
what are these unfair trade practices you're talking about? We
just assume everybody knows, but most people don't. With this
macroeconomic talk, what are they?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
What's unfair? Right?
Speaker 15 (39:50):
Well, so the main one of the main things China
does to the rest of the world is they promise
a huge market.
Speaker 11 (39:59):
Remember China is, you know, one.
Speaker 15 (40:00):
Of the most populous countries in the entire world, and
they say, if you want to sell stuff to Chinese people,
you have to do your manufacturing here. And they say,
if you do your manufacturing elsewhere, we will put up
both tariff barriers and non tariff barriers to keep you
from being able to sell your stuff in China. So
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what does that mean, Well, if the US doesn't say
the same thing, then manufacturing gets moved to China, because
you have.
Speaker 11 (40:29):
One person that says, yeah, you can sell us.
Speaker 15 (40:31):
Stuff from China, and China says, well, you can't sell
us stuff from abroad, So then manufacturing moves to China.
That is the core of the unfair trade practices that
China deploys and has deployed for twenty five years now,
ever since they came into the WTO to move manufacturing
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from all over the world into China.
Speaker 11 (40:56):
Donald Trump thinks that this should end.
Speaker 15 (40:58):
He's right, and he is going to, i think, very
quickly move to try to stop this from happening, to
move manufacturing out of China.
Speaker 11 (41:10):
That doesn't mean it all comes to the US. By
the way, I think Donald Trump.
Speaker 15 (41:14):
Would be very happy to see a diversity of manufacturing.
We do want manufacturing here in the US, that's true,
but we don't. What we really want is not to
be dependent on one country run by communist maniacs who
don't like the US way of life. We can't allow
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that our country and our economy to be dependent on
the good will of Jijingping and his communist rogue regime.
Speaker 11 (41:45):
So we're going to say no more, no more of this.
Speaker 15 (41:48):
We're going to move stuff out of China, some of
it into the US, but frankly some of it into
allied countries. If you know, manufacturing moves out of China
and moves to you elsewhere in the world, whether it's
India or Vietnam, that's better than it just staying in China.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
John, China, unlike Canada and Mexico, did not back off.
They were given a ten percent tariff threat from Trump
and they domb their nose right back at US. So
going forward here, people who are already squeezed by inflation,
that is, watching their buying power disappear.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
People are apprehensive.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
I should say, what are we looking at with the
potential trade war here?
Speaker 11 (42:32):
So I think the tariffs will go much higher with China.
Speaker 15 (42:35):
What what I began by saying was what we were
asking from Canada and Mexico is easy for them to
give right help us on the border, easy in their interest.
What we're what we are going to do to China
is not easy for China to accept.
Speaker 11 (42:50):
Is not in their interest. We are actually saying we.
Speaker 15 (42:53):
Don't like your economic plan, we don't like your economic system,
and frankly, I don't think they are going to change.
I think the way this ends up in the end
is a separation that we are no longer going that
countries of the free world will no longer be doing
business with China ten years from now. I think it
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will take a while, but we are going to move
just like we did to the Soviet Union. We were
not you know, we did not depend on the Soviet
Union for anything. We actually had a pretty severe economic
embargo on doing stuff with Russia the Soviet Union. I
think that's where this ends up with China, that we
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are going to end up. The phrase everybody uses is decoupling.
Our economy over the last twenty five years has become
deeply integrated with China. We are in the process of
deintegrating ourselves with the Chinese economy.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
But are we just real quick as we wrap this
up here, are we in a position strong enough now
to decouple the world from China too? Really have really
gained on us when it comes through influence internationally?
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Can we do that?
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Do we still have what it takes to do what
you just said.
Speaker 11 (44:07):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 15 (44:08):
You think we can, and I think that it will.
It will end up benefiting the US definitely, but the
rest of the world will is also has begun to
figure out that what they did to US manufacturing, they're
going to do to French manufacturing, They're going to do
to German manufacturing.
Speaker 11 (44:24):
That it is not just the US versus China.
Speaker 15 (44:27):
Here, it's actually the rest of the world, but at
least the rest of the developed world versus China.
Speaker 11 (44:33):
That does probably mean.
Speaker 15 (44:34):
That we have to do more outreach around the globe
because China is trying to get everywhere that isn't the
US on its side. We'll have to push back against that.
But I think we can do it, and I think
we will, and I think it'll be really good for
the ordinary people of the United States, of Germany, of France.
It won't be good for the elites of these countries.
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They've done very well with financializing their economy and moving
manufacturing ring over to China. It will be good for
the ordinary people of all of the rest of the
world rather than just the financial elites.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Thank you, John, go back, Sue, my brother, all right,
it's time for light in the mood. Thanks all right,
it is time to lighten the mood. And you know
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how I could tell I was.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Getting older and more like my father is.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
I'm getting more and more frustrated when people I deal
with don't speak and understand English. You've heard me rant
about this before in the past, and I know it
makes me sound like an old curmudgeon with gray and
my beard, which of course I am now, but I
can't freaking stand it, and I'm just really.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Grateful to have my president again.
Speaker 16 (45:57):
Go ahead, as in ya can suffer woman as an
eye expectations from you? Do you have any plan to
change Afghanistan situation? Are you able to recognize Taliban? Because
I'm an upgun journalist.
Speaker 15 (46:11):
Up and suffer woman.
Speaker 16 (46:13):
Any comment about Afghanist and what's your future plant for
a gun people?
Speaker 12 (46:16):
Especially, I have a little hard time understanding you. Where
are you from? Actually it's a beautiful voice and a
beautiful accent. The only problem is I can't understand the
word you're saying. But I just say this, good luck,
live in peace. Go ahead, please, that's okay, yeah, please?
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Anyway, that's the flock to you.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
I'll see you tomorrow.
Let's talk about why the communists are freaking out about
this us AID stuff. Let's talk to Aliabeth Stucky, John
Carney about tariffs, Josh Hammer about the Trump hotel and
Gaza all that more coming up on. I'm right, okay,
(00:25):
I'm back. A little flu bug. Take me down for
a couple of days. So I'm finding here and let's
discuss something. In fact, let's have a big discussion tonight
about communist activism. Who funds it, who organizes it, how
does it work? Because what we're seeing right now, what's
been a hot topic for the last forty eight seventy
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two hours.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I know because I've been laying in.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Bed dying is all this USAID stuff. USAID the government
organization that takes in our money and hands it out
to whoever.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
They want across the globe.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Now, I want you to pause for a moment, and
I want you to think about what the last two
weeks has been.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's been two weeks Trump's been president.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Think about just pause for a moment and think about
all the things he's done.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Remember that fat stack.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Of executive orders first day January sixth, Pards and d I,
this and this and that, all kinds of things have
been done in the first two weeks. Now, let me
ask you this, now that you're thinking about that, how
many things has Trump done.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
That has prompted a reaction from Chuck Schumer like this.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
We cannot we cannot allow Elon Musk and a small
group of people to secretly, behind closed doors, take away
our privacy, take away our dollars, take away everything we have.
We are gonna fight this fight. I am gonna stand
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with you in this fight.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
And we will win.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
We will win.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
We will win.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
We will win.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
We will win.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
We will we won't rest.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
We won't rest, we won't rest.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
We won't rest.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
A little bit. Cringey, but you get what I'm saying.
Why that wasn't just Chuck Schumer. I could sit here
for an hour and play for you all the most
powerful Democrats in the country rallying, protesting.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Oh my gosh, USA, we have to have USA.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Jeez, don't take away our USA.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Why the freak out? It's been two weeks, It's been
all kinds of things Trump has done. Why is it
the USA?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I mean, gosh, they're out there on the microphone sounded
like the Democrats of.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
A couple of years ago, we got taken.
Speaker 7 (02:50):
To the streets, shut down the city, were agitating.
Speaker 8 (02:59):
We will see in the courts, in Congress, in the streets.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Elon Musk is a Nazi lepore.
Speaker 9 (03:06):
Baby.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
We are gonna be in your face, We are gonna
be on your asses, and we are gonna make sure
we're gonna make sure you understand what democracy looks like.
Speaker 10 (03:21):
This, ain't it.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
So let me tell you something, mister Trump. You gonna
learn a few lessons from us. And I'm gonna be
the first one you and your little friend off of Twitter,
y'all about to find out.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
All right, better recognize why all these things have been done?
Speaker 11 (03:47):
Why?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Okay, so let's have a talk.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Shall we just a little analogy before we move on
and talk to Josh Hammer? And now the best stuck
you in other things. I want you to picture this.
That's a great depression. Okay, it's the Great Depression. And
you've seen, you've read books, maybe you watched movies about
how guys would line up in the morning trying to
just get some work that day.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Line up, you go.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Down on the dock, you line up, and you try
to get picked that day. And there's a guy always
there's a guy sitting there who works for the company,
and it's his job to pick the people.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Hey, you showed up early, I'll pick you. Hey, I'll
pick you.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So he's the one who gets to pick who gets
to work all day. And sometimes that same guy who
was picking.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Hey, you, you, you, and you and you you can work.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Sometimes that same guy at the end of the day,
he's the one who hands out the cash from that day.
Because they used to pay people daily during the depression,
people had to eat. Hey bob, here you go. Here's
your money, and here's your money. You're with me, okay.
So you are that guy, the guy who gets to
pick people, the guy who gets to pay people. And
it's been this way for years. No matter what the
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dock company was doing, no matter who was managing it,
no matter who was owning it, no matter what they
were doing being unloading a bay of it didn't matter
at all. You were the guy holding on to that
choke point of power.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And with that choke point of power over several years,
what could you do with it?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
It didn't matter what the manager screamed, with the owner's scream,
pick your friends. Hey, hey, bob, hey, come on in Hey, Jimmy,
my cousin, Come on, Jimmy. I'll get you in because
you're the one who gets to choose. Didn't matter what
their management decided. You're the one who gets to choose.
And on the way out the door, you have the
bag full of money. Maybe cousin Jimmy only earned fifty
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bucks that day because he's cousin Jimmy. Maybe give you
a little bit of it back, Maybe you give him
a hundred.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You have the money.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Whatever the rules are, whatever the laws are, that's someone
else's problem. You have the money, you see, And then
I want you to imagine this, after years of this
total control, total control, who comes in, who leaves.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Where the money goes?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
The manager shows up and he introduces you to someone
who's going to do your job just like you. In fact,
he's going to take over half the time. How offended
would you feel? How threatened would you feel? How angry
would you feel? What you're seeing right now, the collective
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freak out from democrats across the United States of America
at Donald Trump going after USAID one. It's the very
tip of the iceberg, meaning there is this massive, massive
iceberg where you the taxpayer at the federal, state and
local level are funding the communist activism you see in
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the streets. And what Democrats are looking at right now is,
for the first time in my adult life, in my
forty three years on this planet, they're looking at finally
a GOP administration that doesn't just issue orders executive.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Order here and well, this is the law, and then.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Sits back watching these filthy communists recap them from the inside.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Those days are over now. The GOP has finally figured
out that the communist activists who have occupied positions of
power in our government well over ninety percent Democrat. They
have been making all the decisions.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
On behalf of the company, no matter who.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Gets elected, and they've been doing this for decades. For decades,
didn't matter Republican Democrat, didn't matter. The various communists and
various agencies across the federal government and your state government
across the federal government. They've simply decided, well, I don't
care if Donald Trump wins. I don't care if Joe
Biden wins. I don't care if I have communist activism
to do, and nothing will stop me. You see, I
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control the paychecks, I control who comes in, who's going
to get that government contract.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I control what.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Money goes out, where that money goes.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Nobody will ever stop me.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
No one has ever even taken an interest in stopping me.
And after decades and decades and decades of this with
Democrats have done very sharply, I should point out, although
it's corrupt, is they've figured out a system that can
domestically and internationally take your money from you, take taxpayer money,
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and hand it out to their friends, funding Democrat activism.
You and I've had this talk a million times on
the show that the Democrat activism you see in the streets,
the protesting, the rioting, but it doesn't matter whether it's
a rally on Capitol Hill or they're burning down foot Locker.
Ninety nine point nine percent of the communist activism you
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see in the streets is funded and organized, not organic.
It's not people just mad about Saint George Floyd. It's funded,
it's organized. Now you know that because we've talked about
it many times on the show. But what you may
not know, and what might make you uncomfortable, is how
much of that communist activism on our streets and foreign
soil is organized and funded by you, by the taxpayer,
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because years of neglect from the voter has left Democrats
in charge of everything, handing out those envelopes of money
and deciding who gets that next contract. An ugly corrupt
criminal system that is finally getting exposed. And that's why
you didn't see a collective communists freak out when Donald
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Trump was signing executive orders getting rid of DEI here,
doing this to the drug cartels there. But he walks
into USAID and starts eliminating these positions. He starts investigating
exactly what they've been doing with the money, and immediately
it's time.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
To take it to the streets. You better recognize.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
That's why they freaked out, because the actual power they have,
the power of hoovering up your money, that is what's
being threatened. All that may have made you uncomfortable, but
I am right. If we fund, we fund our enemies,
we do done it forever. Who do you have a
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cell phone with? You have AT and T, Verizon, T Mobile.
But this doesn't just apply to the government. We fund
our enemies. If you have AT and T, T Mobile,
you fund your enemy. I have pure talk. I don't
do that. Pure Talk is the patriotic cell phone company.
(10:31):
They're on the same five G network, so you're not
losing coverage or anything like that. They are patriotic. They
don't fund Black Lives Matter, they don't fund Planned parenthood.
They don't take your money and use it against you
and your values. Pure Talk, their CEO, fought for this
country in Vietnam. I have an amazing cell phone company
(10:52):
with the same coverage you do. Puretalk dot com slash jessetv.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
We'll be back.
Speaker 12 (11:08):
The US will take over the Gaza Strip and we
will do a job with it too. We'll own it
and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded
bombs and other weapons on the site. Level the site
and get rid of the destroyed buildings. Level it out,
create an economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of
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jobs and housing for the people of the area. Do
a real job, do something different. Just can't go back.
If you go back, it's going to end up the
same way it has for a hundred years.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Okay, what do we think about it. Let's talk to
Josh Hammer about this next.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Joining me now, Josh Hammer, host of the book America
on Tryal also wrote a book about this area, is
Real and Civilization.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Okay, Josh.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
At this point in time, with the winning from the
Trump administration, I am very hesitant to lob any criticisms
or even really concerns out there have been so happy
with this two weeks, but I have concerns.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
To put it mildly, the people.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Of Gaza are not dying for new job opportunities.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
They're just dying for Allah Jesse. That's very well put.
Speaker 13 (12:23):
Actually, look, this was not on anyone's Bingo card, I
think would be a polite way of saying it. It was
definitely not on my bing go card. I mean he
was he was standing there next to Benjamin Aintiniah, who
I'm reasonably certain that this was not on Benjamintania Who's
Bingo card either. I mean, this is not a thing
that's been discussed. I mean, there's been a lot of
conversations since October seven. There's been a lot of conversations
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going back much further than October seven, as to what
will have to happen in Gaza in the long term,
assuming correctly that Hamas cannot stay in power, but the
idea that the United States would come in and basically
build the Trump Hotel Communists or or the Trump resorts
in Rafa. You know, this was not something that anyone
was thinking about. So I don't know, he is the
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honest answer. I don't know exactly what you think of
this until we hear more in the way of detail.
What I know for sure, Jesse, is that the United
States should definitely not go in there unless until the
actual Arabs there are out. So it seems to me
like what Donald Trump is saying here when it comes
to Gaza. This is all basically contingent on his related
proposal slash his mandate. It seems to Egypt and Jordan
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that they take in the Arabs there in Gaza. So
from that perspective, I think it actually could work out well.
I think the broader point here, Jesse, is that Donald
Trump is a distructor. He is someone who takes old
out mooted chivolets. He takes old orthodoxies that have become
stale to the extent that they were ever viable in
the first place, and he likes to shatter it. That's
how we got the Abraham Accords peace steal back in
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twenty twenty. For decades and decades these two state solution cartel,
the foreign policy establishment from both sides of the isle
in Washington, DC said, oh, the only way that Israel's
ever going to get normal relations with any more Arab
countries is to give the Palestinians a state, and Trump
and Nettunyahu tag team the first time around that basically
said screw that, we're actually going to go outside in
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forget the Palaestinians for a second. Here, let's strengthen Israel.
Let's strengthen YOUUAE, Bahrain and so forth. Here we'll get
this anti Iran alliance. And then many of the Palestinians
will come begging for scraps with the table. So is
that kind of creative outside the box thinking that I
think is going on here? I would be lying if
I said to you that I see exactly where this
is going, because I don't, but I guess I will
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say this. I mean, Trump is right. Insofar as Gaza
is twenty five miles of beautiful Mediterranean sea beachfront property,
it does have enormous potential. When Israel withdrew there in
two thousand and five, they said that the Arabs had
the potential to turn it into a Singapore on the Mediterranean.
That was the popular phrase at the time. We see
what they did with it. They've turned it into an
Islamis terrorist bastionion obviously, But who have I to doubt
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Donald Trump at this point there. I want to see
where this is going. I'm not sure how serious it is,
but I have decently high hopes.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I guess, yeah, I guess we shall see. All right,
we're moving on.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
There's so much I have to tackle with you Iran.
Iran famously wants to kill Donald Trump, that wanted to
kill him for quite some time. Trump dropped this little
nugget to a reporter who he was just Iran and
their proxeys who threatened to retaliate against you and your
team by killing you guys for taking out so long.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Well, they haven't done that, and that would be a
terrible thing for them to do, not because of me.
If they did that, they would be obliterated. That would
be the end. I've left instructions. If they do it,
they get obliterated, there won't be anything left.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Josh, what does that mean? You know?
Speaker 11 (15:56):
Jesse?
Speaker 13 (15:57):
Get again, I kind of throw my hands up and
I say, I'm not entirely sure what the guy has
exactly in mind here. It seems to me like he's
saying that if you succeed in taking me out, And
we know for a fact that Iran has been trying
for a long time to take out Donald Trump. They've
been trying to take a lot of people from his
first administration as well, in response to the assassination of
Kasaem Sulimani at the Baghdada Rock Airport in twenty twenty.
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So it seems like he's saying that, if God forbid,
you are successful, I have put instructions in place to
my successor, which I guess would be jd vance to
go ahead and nuclear country to high hell. I mean,
it seems to me like that is actually what he
is saying there. Obviously, God willing this never happens. God willing,
the Iranian regime will not be successful in any of
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its assassination attempts extra territorily, let alone against someone like
Donald Trump. There, So I hate that we even having
this conversation in the first place. There, But it seems
like Trump basically is not going to brook any nonsense
when it comes to the Irani regime, and certainly he
and Netignankhu are on the same page there, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Josh, where is Iran right now?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Meaning the mulahs, Well, how is their hold on power?
I know, Joe Biden being in office kind of gave
them a thread to hang on to Trump being in
office not so much. So where does Iran go from here?
Speaker 11 (17:16):
Well, they're in a tough spot.
Speaker 13 (17:18):
Look, I mean, Iran was obviously rooting for the Biden,
for the Biden regime, the Biden Harris regime to win
this election. They were clearly rooting for the Democratic Party.
I mean, ever since Barack Obama came into power in
two thousand and eight, the Democratic Party has been obsessed
with realigning American Middle East interests towards Iran, towards Katar,
towards the Muslim Brotherhood, away from our traditional allies like Egypt,
Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt and so forth. There and tragically,
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in many ways, they've actually been successful, but they've not
been wholly successful.
Speaker 12 (17:45):
You know.
Speaker 13 (17:46):
I mentioned the Abraham Accords earlier. The Abraham Cords were
a major anti Iran alliance that came into being there.
I think at this point, the Irani regime is hurting
they've been having pretty bad inflation recently.
Speaker 14 (17:57):
There.
Speaker 13 (17:58):
At this point, the best thing that the United States
can do is to put back at the place the
crippling sanctions that were part of the maximum pressure campaign
they called it the first time around. Donald Trump just
did that yesterday. He signed to Loss some of the
harshest sanctions that any president has put on a foreign
country in recent memory. So more of that, please. I
think that is probably as basically what we need to do.
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I certainly don't think any kind of bombs should start
flying anytime, stooning or anything like that, but crippling sanctions
I think would be a nice start. Make that regime heard,
and God willing, the people will rise up and top
of them.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Josh Usaid has been all over the news for a
few days, and wow, the Democrat reaction to it has
been quite revealing.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Here's a bit of it.
Speaker 10 (18:39):
We talked about Trump wanting to be a dictator on
day one, and here we are. This is what the
beginning of dictatorship looks like.
Speaker 8 (18:52):
Elon Musk, you didn't create us AID. The United States
Congress did for the American people and does like. Elon
Musk did not create USAID. He doesn't have the power
to destroy it, and who's gonna stop him? We are,
We're gonna stop him.
Speaker 14 (19:13):
This is a constitutional crisis that we are in today.
Let's call it.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
What it is.
Speaker 14 (19:21):
The people get to decide how we defend the United
States of America. The people get to decide how their
tax mayer money is spent. Elon Musk does not get
to decide.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
Also, know this is just the beginning. If DOJA tax
USAID today, then you can be sure they'll move on
to another target tomorrow. Who knows, maybe there'll be the
Postal Service, or the IRS, or even the Social Security
Administration they could be next, or maybe our national security agencies.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Uh sorry, I just had to laugh when I heard
him complain that maybe we'll go after the IRS.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
That's one.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Two, Josh, It's interesting in two weeks, Donald Trump's administration
has attacked many, many, many, many many things from the
previous administration, from previous administrations, but nothing has prompted the
kind of reaction we got from US aimed.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Why is that, Josh?
Speaker 13 (20:16):
Yeah, you know, Jesse, I think we're both just waiting
to hear what Chuck Schumer is aroused about today.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
You know that that was a pretty that.
Speaker 13 (20:23):
Was a pretty funny Freudi and Slipp recently wasn't no,
But I mean, I mean listening to Chuck Schumer talk
about how God forbid we actually go after the irs,
that kind of reminds me of this left wing media
report that I was reading the other day about Donald
Trump Neilon Musk going after us AID where they basically said, oh,
they actually might have less money to fund for LGBT
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rights overseas and for DEI initiatives, And like, I'm reading
this article and I'm like, you're talking about this like
it's a bad thing. I mean, we're just not on
the same page here. You know, at the twenty twenty
four election, you had a lot of more sober centurist Democrats,
people like on Fetterman in Pennsylvania, people like Jimmy Carville,
the Old Rage and Cagun down in Louisiana, people like
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that who said, you know what, this party really needs
to give up on just calling everything a constitutional crisis.
I'm calling Donald Trump a fascist dictator day in and
day out, and just getting back to basic politics, economic policy,
bread and butter, blue collar working class stuff, all the above,
and now here we are less than three weeks into
Donald Trump's second term, and Jesse, they've learned nothing. They've
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learned literally nothing whatsoever. If us AID, an organization that
last I check was giving over half a billion dollars
to fund ESG initiatives environmental social governance basically deiing for investing.
They were funding that in Africa. They were funding DEI
in Burma to the tune of like forty million dollars.
I think if you guys are freaking out about this,
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I mean, I can't wait to see the reaction when
Donald Trump and in law Musk start to burn down
the United States Department of Education there. I mean, they
are going to be in the streets rioting. And I'm
just going and then sit back at my desk here
and kick my feet in the table and have a
nice little whiskey and just enjoy the rid in my friend,
it is enjoyable.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Josh, see your brother come back soon. All right, let's
talk to Ali Best Stucky next. Ali Best Stuckies on
the forefront has been on the forefront of cultural issues
for a long time.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
She has a lot of.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Things to say about what's happening right now, very interesting stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Before we get to Ali. Let's get to this.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You know what's been my saving grace is I've been
SICKI pooh for the last couple of days. Some dream
powder from Beam. You just want to sleep. That's all
you want to do is sleep. And so when I
want to sleep, I go have a couple of hot chocolate,
but my hot chocolate especially.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
You see it's dream powder in there. But I want
to sleep.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I take a little cup of milk, warm it up
in the microwave, and then I just pour a little
scoop and dream powder in there. And it's got natural
things in it, like melatonin. I mix it all up
and sip on this delicious cup of hot chocolate, and
I just sleep like a little baby. And man, what
a difference it makes.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
In your whole life when you sleep all the time.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
You want that about up to forty percent off shopbeam
dot com. Slash Jesse Kelly, We'll be back, Okay. So
let's talk about culture war things, because these things didn't
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suddenly become unimportant just because we're getting some victories and
running the filthy comedies out of the government. They're as
important now as ever. What kind of culture are we?
What kind of culture do we want to be and
so Trump he signs an executive order banning men from
women's sports. Pam Bondy sworn in today. Hey Pam, go
and force it all. This is good, But I hate
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to be old Jesse, old cynic.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I have a couple complaints. One, why are we still
pretending that the whole training thing is real? Anyway? It's
it's not real.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
It's damaging, even when they're not beating up women in volleyball.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
That's one. And two.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Why did we need the president to come in and
handle that? What if we lost the election? Why didn't
the American people reject this stuff outright?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Joining me now?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Ali Besstucky, author of the book Toxic Empathy.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Okay, Ali, I'm happy. I'm assuming you're happy.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I don't want to obviously make assumptions about your mental state,
but I'm assuming you're pretty pleased.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
But I I do have questions and concerns.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Yeah, I think that you raise a really good point.
Maybe a little bit of a pessimistic point. I hate
how you're bringing us down as we're trying to ride
this high vistory, but you're right. I mean, dads should
have set dads should have been the one, so I
need their own executive orders in saying no, my daughter
is not going to play volleyball against this dude that asked.
Speaker 9 (24:46):
Her to homecoming two years ago. Like, that's not happening.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
We are not going to allow these boys to go
into our women's locker rooms or else there's going to
be a really big problem. That's a good point. It
should not have been the pressident of the Unite Its States.
We're not even talking and politicians on a local level,
but the President of the United States having to say, hey,
stop sending your men into girls' locker rooms.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
We're not going to tolerate it.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
That It is a really sad indication of where we are,
especially where Christians are, because I think Christians are some
of the most cowardly people on this subject.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, and in fact, you just walked right into my
next question.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I've been thinking about this. Where was the church in
all this? Now?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
I know this is something that you talk about extensively,
and I'm glad you do, and it's certainly not every
church in the country, But why was there not a unified,
bold Christian voice against not just the training and women's
sports stuff, all the demonic cultural filth that has been
pushed on this country, especially in the last five to
ten years. I realized some churches have pushed back. It's
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been the furthest thing from universal and it hadn't been
that loud.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
No, you're right, and even those who consider themselves conservative Christians. Obviously,
we expect that like Anglican Bishop whatever her name is,
who you know, preached about illegal immigration and stuff to
Trump advance, to be on the side of the gender nonsense.
But you know, pastors in Texas and Tennessee and Kentucky
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who claimed to believe in the authority of Scripture only
speak up about politics when they can lament, you know,
the death of George Floyd or join in on you know,
anti deportation protests. Those people are the problem, the mushy middle,
the cowardly evangelicals who allow progressive social media algorithms to
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dictate their compassion and outrage, who are now speaking up
so courageously against deportations, but had nothing to say when
the Abiden administration literally took away school lunches from poor
public schools because they weren't allowing boys into girls' bathrooms
for the rewrite of the time nine under the dividing
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nine men.
Speaker 9 (27:01):
Most Christians had nothing to say about that. It's because
they want to be liked.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
It's because they, just like Adam and Eve, want to
be like God. I mean, they want to have the
power to be the arbiter of right and wrong, and
they want to escape the consequences of sin.
Speaker 9 (27:19):
All of that.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
There's so many different reasons for it, but a lot
of it probably is just cowardice and wanting.
Speaker 9 (27:24):
To be liked by the world.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Ali, I'm glad you brought up the charity portion of
the charity. I used that air fingers quote on that
the charity portion of open borders, because it's starting to
get exposed as the Trump administration digs through these NGOs.
How many Christian slash Catholic charities are out there that
are really just set up to violate the sovereignty and
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laws of the United States of America. And it's really
making all of us look bad. To be honest with you,
I can't tell you how many emails I get from
people who are just these freaking Catholics are screwing everything up.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
It's it's really awful.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
How did the church get to a place where they're
doing this crap, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
Well, I do think there are so many different aspects
of it. Some of it is just like the love
of money, and we read that the love of money
is the root of all kinds of evil. And we
see that the USAID is funding such a large portion
of organizations like World Relief, Catholic charities, even Jewish charities.
They are lining their pockets, they are getting paid to
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be a part of the trafficking process of illegal aliens
and children even across the border. So part of it
is just plain old as time corruption. And then another
part of it is that toxic empathy which tells you
that in order to be a good person, you have
to be progressive, you have to be permissive, you have
to affirm sin, you have to validate lies, you have
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to support destructive policies because it makes this particular purported
victim feel better. And so it's just another form of deception.
But that toxic empathy piece, I think, is how that deception.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
Is manifesting itself in the church.
Speaker 11 (29:09):
Today.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Let's talk about RFK Junior, because word is surprisingly he's
going to get through, got through committee.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
He's going to get.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Through And what does this mean for America's health. I
know my wife, if you get her wound up about this,
you better have about ten hours to set aside with
all the crap we have in our food and everything else.
As I'm eating a quarter pounder with cheese, what does
this mean for the rest of the country.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Yeah, you know, as a pro lifer, I've had my
concerns about RFA. There are plenty of really important things
that we disagree on. He has been, at least in
this process, said that he is going to champion whatever
policies the Trump administration wants him to champion.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
And that's a good thing.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
But when we're looking at accountability for doctors and transparency
for pharmaceutical companies, the FDA, as you said, what's in
our food, what's in our scenes, what's in our medications,
the direct to consumer advertisements from the pharmaceutical companies, all
of that is corrupt and has led to worse health
outcomes in the United States. And I think that he
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is going to be extremely successful in holding these for
profit companies accountable.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
And I think that's a good thing.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
And I mean, we saw the danger of the FDA
and the CDC during COVID and God forbid there's another
so called pandemic that comes along, I would be very
confident with RFK at the helm.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, we did so well during the last pandemic. Okay,
So you did some digging on your show about USAID,
and obviously that's been in the news hot and heavy
for about forty eight hours because communists are freaking out
about it.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
What did you find?
Speaker 6 (30:53):
Yes, I found that we are funding with our tax
dollars work place DEI programs in Serbia, that we are
also funding racial equity musicals in Ireland, that we have
set up trans services.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
Whatever that means in.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Colombia, and so all across the world we are making
sure that people in poor countries bow down to progressive ideology.
I found something that I already know that you already
know that actually progressives love colonialism, they love imperialism. They
love going into poor countries and telling them that they have.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
To assimilate to American progressive culture.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
As long as colonialism and imperialism means that they get
to push sexual.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
Degeneracy, they are good with it.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
And that's what they're doing in Uganda, that's what they're
doing in the Congo, that's what they're doing in South America.
If you do not abide by the principles of LGBTQ whatever,
then you get your money taken away.
Speaker 9 (31:57):
That's what the USAID.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Has existed for Ali.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I don't think people really understand and accept how much
of the filthy communist activism, including all the LGBTQ Air
Force stuff, is funded by our taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
They just they don't realize.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
They don't want to talk about how long Democrats have
cemented this system in place where you and me get
to fund all that scrap.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
No, I don't think they know, and honestly, I did
not know the extent of it.
Speaker 9 (32:28):
And the USAID. They're not just sending our money to
these countries to do these horrible things, But.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
I mean, our money is also being laundered through these
firms in DC that say that they represent the humanitarian
needs of a place like Haiti. But our tax dollars
are mostly staying in those.
Speaker 9 (32:45):
Firms and organizations. They're not even going to Haiti.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
And those firms and organizations are all arms of the
Democrat Party, and so are tax dollars. In a variety
of ways, we're actually funding the campaigns of the people
who hate us and are working against US and American interests,
and I hadn't really thought about the extent of that.
And still I started digging in to this story. And
I know a lot of people like you have been
(33:11):
talking about that for a long time. But to most Americans,
like this is all very revelatory.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
ALI appreciate you. Come back soon. Oh, we have so
much more.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
We want to talk about some tariffs. Let's do that next.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Okay, so let's talk about tariffs, shall we. In fact,
let's talk about the economy in general. Donald Trump is
a very different Republican than than the type we've had.
Maybe he's your type, maybe he's not. I'm talking about economically,
but he's much more of a Teddy Roosevelt type. He's
not something new. We've never seen this before. Oh, please,
(33:55):
parties change all the time. Donald Trump is very much
a Teddy Roosevelt Republican in that he believes that tariffs
are a necessary tool to protect America and American workers.
We just saw what happened recently with Mexico and Canada.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Joining me.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Now, somebody who knows a lot more about this than
I do. John Carney, Breitbart News Finance and economics editor
John I might as well just hand you the show
for about the next hour and let you dance with
glee over the tariff situation with Mexico and Canada.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Tell us what happened.
Speaker 11 (34:28):
Yeah, so Donald Trump had has a much.
Speaker 15 (34:32):
Broader view of tariffs than we've seen from the Republican
Party for quite a while. As you said, this is
historically the Republican Party's position. It was more or less
founded as a tariff party. Lincoln was a big believer
in tariffs, but so was William McKinley, who is somebody
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who Donald Trump brings up.
Speaker 11 (34:54):
All the time.
Speaker 15 (34:56):
He basically set the stage for Republican dominance of a
ma American politics for the next forty years. What happened
most recently was Donald Trump said to Mexico and Canada
that we need help on the border. We can't do
it alone. We need our neighbors to the south and
the north to help us. Help us with preventing illegal
(35:17):
drugs from coming over, help us from preventing illegal aliens
from coming over. And what he said was, look, if
you guys get your act together, help us out, we
will not tear aff you. If you won't do that,
you're going to face a really high tariff twenty five percent,
and it'll climb from there if you can't bring yourself
(35:38):
around to cooperating with us on boarder security. Now, a
lot of people really hoped a lot of people on
the left, even some people on the right, really hoped
that these countries would somehow resist this, that they would
say to Donald Trump, no, we're not.
Speaker 11 (35:55):
Going to do it.
Speaker 15 (35:55):
We're going to, you know, take your tariff and we'll
tear if you back. That's not what happened. What happened
was Donald Trump said, well, we're going to we're gonna
terriff you, and they said, no, don't do that.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
We'll give you.
Speaker 11 (36:09):
Help on the border. We're sending troops to the border.
Speaker 15 (36:12):
Mexico called first, said we'll send ten thousand troops to
the border, will help you out. Then Canada called up
and said us too, we'll send ten thousand troops to
the border. We will help you on the border. Now,
Donald Trump didn't say that this is good enough. He said,
we'll pause the tariffs for thirty days. See what you
(36:33):
guys do, See what kind of help you're really providing
if you just, you know, if you send troops there
and they.
Speaker 11 (36:40):
Don't do anything.
Speaker 15 (36:41):
If you don't actually stop Fentanel from coming in, if
you don't really help.
Speaker 11 (36:46):
Us, the tariffs will come back.
Speaker 15 (36:48):
So the threat didn't go away, but he did say
we'll see whether you're willing to cooperate, and I think
they will be because, frankly, drug tru smuggling and human
trafficking is good for Mexico, it's not good for Canada.
Neither of them have an interest in preserving what was
happening under the Biden administration.
Speaker 11 (37:08):
So I think we're actually probably.
Speaker 15 (37:10):
Going to escape this with very little tariffs on either
Mexico or Canada, at least for the time being, because
it's in their interest to cooperate with us on this.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Okay, let's set the immigration thing aside because this begs
the question, John, and maybe you have some insight here.
As you pointed out, he didn't really stop them. He
paused them for a month. Well, well, we'll pause them
for a month and see if you're on your best behavior.
The question is, as a lover of McKinley and Roosevelt
as Trump is, as you pointed out, does he want
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to tariff them anyway?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Meaning is this coming? Is he going to find or
is it going.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
To be a month from now and he's going to say, Mexico,
you're a bunch of dirty liars. Tariffs are coming your way.
Does he want to tariff it? If so, why would
he so?
Speaker 11 (37:58):
I don't think he actually does. On a tariff Mexico
and Canada.
Speaker 15 (38:02):
Donald Trump would actually love to have Mexico be a
prosperous nation that is.
Speaker 11 (38:08):
A good neighbor to the US.
Speaker 15 (38:10):
Mexican prosperity will actually benefit the US because we'll have
fewer people wanting to come into the US from our
southern border. Canada's same thing. He wants Canada be prosperous.
I mean, he wants them to be the fifty first state.
He doesn't want them to, you know, suffer economically. I
think what he's really doing with the message to Canada
and to.
Speaker 11 (38:32):
To Mexico is sending the world a message.
Speaker 15 (38:35):
Which is that the time in which they were able
to take advantage of unfair trade practices is over and
that they are going to have to make sure that
they are complying with US demands on a whole host
of issues or they will face terrorists. A lot of this,
I think, frankly is aimed at China. China is the
(38:58):
place that is actually the major threat economically to US manufacturing,
to the US economic security. So I think what we're
seeing here is a demonstration of the power of tariffs,
a gathering up of our forces, in fact, you know,
saying everybody, let's get together and cooperate economically so that
(39:22):
we could stop the real monster on the world stage,
which is China.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Okay, So, John, I want to pause for a moment
on all this because I don't want to talk past
everyone to talk.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Over people's heads.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
What are these as it pertains to China, Mexico, Canada,
what are these unfair trade practices you're talking about? We
just assume everybody knows, but most people don't. With this
macroeconomic talk, what are they?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
What's unfair? Right?
Speaker 15 (39:50):
Well, so the main one of the main things China
does to the rest of the world is they promise
a huge market.
Speaker 11 (39:59):
Remember China is, you know, one.
Speaker 15 (40:00):
Of the most populous countries in the entire world, and
they say, if you want to sell stuff to Chinese people,
you have to do your manufacturing here. And they say,
if you do your manufacturing elsewhere, we will put up
both tariff barriers and non tariff barriers to keep you
from being able to sell your stuff in China. So
(40:21):
what does that mean, Well, if the US doesn't say
the same thing, then manufacturing gets moved to China, because
you have.
Speaker 11 (40:29):
One person that says, yeah, you can sell us.
Speaker 15 (40:31):
Stuff from China, and China says, well, you can't sell
us stuff from abroad, So then manufacturing moves to China.
That is the core of the unfair trade practices that
China deploys and has deployed for twenty five years now,
ever since they came into the WTO to move manufacturing
(40:53):
from all over the world into China.
Speaker 11 (40:56):
Donald Trump thinks that this should end.
Speaker 15 (40:58):
He's right, and he is going to, i think, very
quickly move to try to stop this from happening, to
move manufacturing out of China.
Speaker 11 (41:10):
That doesn't mean it all comes to the US. By
the way, I think Donald Trump.
Speaker 15 (41:14):
Would be very happy to see a diversity of manufacturing.
We do want manufacturing here in the US, that's true,
but we don't. What we really want is not to
be dependent on one country run by communist maniacs who
don't like the US way of life. We can't allow
(41:35):
that our country and our economy to be dependent on
the good will of Jijingping and his communist rogue regime.
Speaker 11 (41:45):
So we're going to say no more, no more of this.
Speaker 15 (41:48):
We're going to move stuff out of China, some of
it into the US, but frankly some of it into
allied countries. If you know, manufacturing moves out of China
and moves to you elsewhere in the world, whether it's
India or Vietnam, that's better than it just staying in China.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
John, China, unlike Canada and Mexico, did not back off.
They were given a ten percent tariff threat from Trump
and they domb their nose right back at US. So
going forward here, people who are already squeezed by inflation,
that is, watching their buying power disappear.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
People are apprehensive.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
I should say, what are we looking at with the
potential trade war here?
Speaker 11 (42:32):
So I think the tariffs will go much higher with China.
Speaker 15 (42:35):
What what I began by saying was what we were
asking from Canada and Mexico is easy for them to
give right help us on the border, easy in their interest.
What we're what we are going to do to China
is not easy for China to accept.
Speaker 11 (42:50):
Is not in their interest. We are actually saying we.
Speaker 15 (42:53):
Don't like your economic plan, we don't like your economic system,
and frankly, I don't think they are going to change.
I think the way this ends up in the end
is a separation that we are no longer going that
countries of the free world will no longer be doing
business with China ten years from now. I think it
(43:15):
will take a while, but we are going to move
just like we did to the Soviet Union. We were
not you know, we did not depend on the Soviet
Union for anything. We actually had a pretty severe economic
embargo on doing stuff with Russia the Soviet Union. I
think that's where this ends up with China, that we
(43:35):
are going to end up. The phrase everybody uses is decoupling.
Our economy over the last twenty five years has become
deeply integrated with China. We are in the process of
deintegrating ourselves with the Chinese economy.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
But are we just real quick as we wrap this
up here, are we in a position strong enough now
to decouple the world from China too? Really have really
gained on us when it comes through influence internationally?
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Can we do that?
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Do we still have what it takes to do what
you just said.
Speaker 11 (44:07):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 15 (44:08):
You think we can, and I think that it will.
It will end up benefiting the US definitely, but the
rest of the world will is also has begun to
figure out that what they did to US manufacturing, they're
going to do to French manufacturing, They're going to do
to German manufacturing.
Speaker 11 (44:24):
That it is not just the US versus China.
Speaker 15 (44:27):
Here, it's actually the rest of the world, but at
least the rest of the developed world versus China.
Speaker 11 (44:33):
That does probably mean.
Speaker 15 (44:34):
That we have to do more outreach around the globe
because China is trying to get everywhere that isn't the
US on its side. We'll have to push back against that.
But I think we can do it, and I think
we will, and I think it'll be really good for
the ordinary people of the United States, of Germany, of France.
It won't be good for the elites of these countries.
(44:54):
They've done very well with financializing their economy and moving
manufacturing ring over to China. It will be good for
the ordinary people of all of the rest of the
world rather than just the financial elites.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Thank you, John, go back, Sue, my brother, all right,
it's time for light in the mood. Thanks all right,
it is time to lighten the mood. And you know
(45:31):
how I could tell I was.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Getting older and more like my father is.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
I'm getting more and more frustrated when people I deal
with don't speak and understand English. You've heard me rant
about this before in the past, and I know it
makes me sound like an old curmudgeon with gray and
my beard, which of course I am now, but I
can't freaking stand it, and I'm just really.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Grateful to have my president again.
Speaker 16 (45:57):
Go ahead, as in ya can suffer woman as an
eye expectations from you? Do you have any plan to
change Afghanistan situation? Are you able to recognize Taliban? Because
I'm an upgun journalist.
Speaker 15 (46:11):
Up and suffer woman.
Speaker 16 (46:13):
Any comment about Afghanist and what's your future plant for
a gun people?
Speaker 12 (46:16):
Especially, I have a little hard time understanding you. Where
are you from? Actually it's a beautiful voice and a
beautiful accent. The only problem is I can't understand the
word you're saying. But I just say this, good luck,
live in peace. Go ahead, please, that's okay, yeah, please?
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Anyway, that's the flock to you.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
I'll see you tomorrow.
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