February 11, 2025 • 46 mins
President Trump is out with a new plan for tariffs as he attempts to get his tax cuts signed into law as well. What does this all mean for you? Jesse Kelly speaks with supply chain guru Ross Kennedy and Congressman Chip Roy for an update on it all. Jesse also gets reaction from The Daily Wire's Crain & Company to the Super Bowl. Was it the worst big game ever? Plus, Michael Malice joins the show to discuss Trump's unique approach to the media.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Let's talk tariffs with Ross Kennedy. Let's talk spending cuts
with Chip Roy. Michael Malice joins us to make fun
of the media. We have such a great show coming
up tonight, and I'm right all right before we get
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to tariff talk with Ross Kennedy. Here, in just a moment,
I wanted to do something we try to do every
time we find out about it on the show. We
honor the fallen who died during training. They are the
forgotten heroes of our time. We lost the United States
Marine mister Sergeant Jacob M. Durham died working with the Filipinos.
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It's it was a crash. It happens. It's a dangerous profession.
The training itself is dangerous. And you know that young man,
Sergeant Durham gave his life for his country, no different
than the guy who charges up a hill. He gave
his life for his country. It's to simplify my brother
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in prayers for his family. Now, tariffs, We're gonna be
talking a lot about tariffs in the coming years. I
would imagine Trump came out had this say.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Reciprocal tariffs, and very simply, it's if they charge us,
we charge them. That's all in fact almost immediately, but
I'll be announcing the details of it, highly detailed, and
it'll be great for everybody, including the other countries. But
if they are charging us one hundred and thirty percent
and we're charging them nothing, it's not going to say
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that it won't affect everybody because there's somewhere we have
similar tariffs. But the ones that are taking advantage of
the United States, we're going to have a It's reciprocity.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It's reciprocal.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I love this.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
What I love the most is not necessarily the terriffs themselves.
I love that we're having conversations about tariff's economies, free markets, trade,
supply chains, things that Americans need to know about and
need to think about more than we have in the past.
Joining me now is somebody who knows a lot about
such things, my friend Ross Kennedy, founder of Fortist Analysis,
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supply chain Expert, among other things. Okay, Ross, tariffs are
nothing new, and Donald Trump is very much a Teddy
Roosevelt Republican type. They come, they go. Many of us
were raised on pure free markets.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Many love tariffs.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Where this Ross Kennedy fall As far as the strategy goes.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Well.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I think this continues a pattern that we've seen you
literally from day one of the administration, where the threat
of tariffs, that the imposition of them is designed to
be a way to bring our trade relationships back and balance,
where historically the United States has been a massive demand driver,
and so anybody that gets to do business with US,
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particularly countries that have free trade agreements or multilateral free
trade agreements, so Mexico and Canada obviously towards the very
top of that list as regards.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Steel and aluminum.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
It's really about rebalancing and kind of reweighing the scales.
But the reason it works with President Trump, the reason
and maybe wouldn't have worked historically, you know, particularly with
President Obama, President Biden, whoever it may be, is that
they believe and rightfully so. The President Trump is very,
very very serious about this. He has made no secret
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of the agenda to reshore to the extent that reshoring,
you know, maybe can't happen fast enough to use ally
shoring or friend shoring, particularly in the Western hemisphere for
a lot of these critical materials, components, parts, electronics, chips,
all of these things, and so we're seeing more of
the same of that here with the steel and aluminum tariffs.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Okay, let's get into those steel in alluminum tariffs. Why
how do we allow critical materials like that to land
purely in the hands of China anyway? And what are
we doing?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Well, you kind of have to break them out into
separate domains. Both, you know, do share the common thing
of they are extremely resource intensive, particularly from an infrastructure side,
A steel mill or an aluminum boundary uses a massive
amount of energy, They use a massive amount of water,
they use a massive amount of electricity. So when you
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take all of that into account, you know, and and
then on top of that, they're not exactly the most
environmentally friendly types of manufacturing and refining operations. So with
the rise of the EPA, with the rise of energy
prices and overregulation and it taking five six seven years
to kind of cut through all the red tape, it's
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just not been as cheap or as as time sensitive
to be able to build or to continue to operate
steel and aluminum manufacturing operations in the United States. And
then you set aside the fact that a lot of
the materials that you need to actually produce this can
be procured pretty inexpensively, largely from countries like you know,
China or from Brazil that maybe don't have as many
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environmental controls on it. And so this was really kind
of capitalism run amuck, so to speak, in the sense
of people forgot that these were critical sectors. That the
arsenal of democracy that we had in World War two
and the post World War two boom was not just
because we made physical things in the US. It's because
we made the materials that made the things in the US.
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But we degraded that over time. We kind of believed
that nothing was ever going to, you know, come against
the United States's ability to dictate supply and demand for
a lot of these things, and so we lost that edge.
And so now where we're at is that you know,
our five biggest trade partners on steel. You have Canada,
you have Mexico, you have Brazil, you have South Korea,
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and you have Japan. Really, Canada and Mexico have benefited
substantially and the most heavily from it. Brazil as of
right now is our number two steel partner, and that
is a country that has largely fallen under the sway
of China. In the last number of years, and so
what we're seeing is is that two of our five
key partners are on the wrong side of the world,
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and they are absolutely essential allies and this will fall
hard on them as well. Both countries depend on steel
exports as major things, but Canada and Mexico really seem
to be the targets here, with Brazil as kind of
a secondary target. Which is the reminder that you guys
have benefited enormously from this trade relationship with the US.
And just like we've seen specifically, you know, tariff supplied
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on the two you know, USMCA, formerly NAFTA countries, this
is more of the same. But when we talk about aluminum,
which is really the interesting one, it's that box side
is the critical mineral that produces you know sometimes it's
called you know, aluminum war is what you see it as.
But when you produce, when you take box site and
you refine it, it doesn't go straight into aluminum. It
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goes into an intermediate material called alumina. And then alumina
is what then gets alloyed to make aluminum. But when
you make alumina, something drops out in that process about
ten percent by weight, and that's gallium. Gallium was one
of the very first two of the critical minerals that
China cut off to the US, alongside germanium last year
or the year before. I forget now, but when we
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were going through another round of export controls, the first
thing they hit were gallium and germanium. Because without gallium
and germanium and then a few other things like antimony
and graphene, you don't have space age electronics, you don't
have bleeding edge missile systems, you don't have F thirty fives,
you don't have the guts of what makes our defense
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industry so overwhelmingly powerful from a manufacturing side, because we
don't make a lot of those. But aluminum in particular
is critically important. Not only is a building material and
as a critical infrastructure material were restoring and rebuilding the US,
we're also losing out on all that gallleum, and China
has completely cornered the global market on that particular critical mineral,
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and really the only way to get to it cost
effectively is by refining box site into alumina and turning
illumina into aluminum.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
A lot of people don't know I'm an expert on
this stuff too, And if you keep heating up all
that stuff. It turns into the illuminati. Just so everybody knows. Okay, Ross,
let's talk about the Yeah, yeah, I I I knew
you were on the same page.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
There.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
The EPA is still there, ross the regulations, the red tape,
it's all still there. My question to you is, Okay,
it's fine, you Goetna hammer China. You want to be
treated more fairly on all this stuff, that's fine, But
we haven't. We haven't significantly cut through the red tape,
the regulation. The processes here are still just as complicated
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and horrible as they were before. Yeah, Donald Trump's gonna
trim that down, but it might have another Democrat in
four years.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
It's just gonna ramp it right back. So what does
this all mean for the consumer?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Well, for right now, you know, if you're looking at
having a steel frame building, for example, tariffs might make
it a little.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Bit more expensive in the short run.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
But we don't even know that these tariffs are actually
going to have any impact yet. An awful lot of
the threat and tariffs have been walked back as just
the threat alone has been enough to secure some form
of cooperation on other issues. So when you look at it,
even on a short term impact, I think that a
lot of people have kind of already figured the game
out and they're going to sit back and they're going
to wait and see a little bit. Now in the
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market side, you have seen it be bullish for US manufacturers.
You saw new Core and Steel Dynamics and US Steel.
You saw you know, trades up big on these announcements
because a lot of these companies are not going to
pay the twenty five percent additional plus what maybe looked
at on countervailing duties and anti dumping duties that could
be coming down the line.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
So it is good for US producers.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
A pressure campaign from the President would be pretty simple
to say, guys, don't get out over your skis here.
Don't immediately start charging buyers and consumers a lot more
for this just because you think you can. We're going
to be having some level of oversight on that long
term when you see the announced US Sovereign Fund, when
you see some of the other announcements or hinting at
(10:20):
announcements as far as cutting the regulatory process and review
process down to thirty sixty ninety days for multiple years,
when you're starting to see very very pro business pro reshoring,
individuals coming in to lead these regulatory agencies. The signaling
of all of that will have a mitigating impact as well.
So this is really I think a lot of a
(10:42):
shaping operation, so to speak, to getting the environment right
to begin reshoring and to begin building at scale again
in the US.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Time will tail.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
You may see for a bit of price taking, if
you will, from the market where they have to kind
of take higher prices in the very very short term.
But over when you look out over six months, twelve months,
twenty four months, I think that you will see the
net impact of this to be extremely positive.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Ross, my brother, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Come back soon, Thank you, Jesse. Congressman Chip Roy joins us.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Next, we're going to talk about the spending, the spending
bills that are coming.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
How bad is it going to be or good? I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Maybe he's got some good news for us before I
do that. Let's do this really quickly. Here do you
deal with expense reports? I have expenses. Come with the job.
Bob handles all the accounting, all the expense reports. Now
this is the one man operation, right, I have the expenses.
She handles the reports, still a nightmare? How do you
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Speaker 3 (12:48):
Terms and conditions may apply. We'll be back.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Is funding Sesame Street a judicious use of soft power? Well, Michael,
the way you put it is the way I hope
folks considering your poll today will think about it. This
isn't just funding a kid show for children, millions of
children in countries like Iraq. It's a show that helps
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teach values, helps teach public health, helps prevent kids from
dying from dysentery and disease, and helps push values like collaboration, peacefulness,
cooperation in a society where the alternative is isis extremism
and terrorism. And to your point, it's pennies on the dollar.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I am so happy.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I'm not a Democrat for a variety of reasons, but
today I'm extra ecstatic because now these people are forced
to go on television and with the straight face defend
giving twenty million dollars for some crappy, sesame street show
in Iraq that I'm sure nobody watch. Joining me now,
Congressman Chip War from the Great State of Texas, Chip,
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you have to be absolutely loving this right now. Imagine
having to go on television and actually defend that kind
of slow No one supports this, nobody.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Yeah, I mean I had At first I thought that
was parody. I heard it, and I thought that was somehow,
somehow a joke or something that somebody was on there
trying to defend that.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
But that's what we're dealing with. And at least in
that case it was a Democrat.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
All too often it's my Republican colleagues who, you know, unfortunately,
a lot of us were offering amendments to stripting these
things out over the last several years. You'll remember during
the Speaker's debate a couple of years ago, one of
the key things we fought for was the ability to
offer lots of amendments, particularly amendments to cut spending. Well,
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we did that, and we offered amendments. For example, Eli
Crane offered one to cut usaid USAID by fifty percent,
and unfortunately, one hundred and fourteen of my Republican colleagues.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Voted against that amendment. And I'm not here to look.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
We've got to go bet the Democrats and Republicans are
united right now generally to do that. But you're seeing
the consequence of years of the establishment that we're opposing
those of us trying to highlight all of these things.
I offered amendments to strip unrun United Nations, you know,
nonsense sending money to the Gaza and the Palestinians and
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Hamas and they were funding our enemies, so, you know,
funding the United Nations generally, the World Health Organization, all
things that we should be defunding, and we had trouble
getting our Republican colleagues to agree. I think Elon and
Doge and the President are going to start changing some minds.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I hope.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Can you give me the why on that for the
establishment Republicans?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
And this is what I mean by that.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
It's not hard to figure out why some filthy communist
activists would get a job at USA and go teach
child trainees in the Philippines how to put a condom on?
But why would establishment Republicans? What do they get out
of any of this stuff? How do they get out
of funding the World Health Organization?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Why?
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Well, there's two or three things going on. Let me
give you a legitimate defense of my colleagues broadly, which
is a lack of staffing in Congress relative to the
executive branch.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
We are overwhelmed thousands to one.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Right, I only have about six or seven staff here
that are dedicated to policy and communications, and I just
lost several of them to the administration. So it's hard
for us to keep up with all the stuff and
we have to go track all of this stuff while
everything's incoming. But now let me give you the more
cynical view, which is too many of my Republican colleagues
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have never met a spending program that they didn't like
because they view it as a way to basically buy votes,
particularly when your leadership is solely focused on so called
majority makers, that is the more moderate ends of the
conference saying well, if we don't win those seats, then
we won't have the majority.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Now let me just take you back.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
You remember I ran against When Davis and around Austin,
Texas in twenty twenty. Well, I was pretty unabashedly outspokenly
conservative in an R plus four district that is a
marginal district. Yet I found a way to increase that
majority win and actually out before most of my colleagues,
and I won that seat with seven point margin.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
But it just took work.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
I didn't hide from my views, I didn't hide from
my beliefs. I ran on what I call healthcare freedom.
I ran on cutting programs. I gave her so many
ads to run against me, and she ran them all.
But you know what, go out and convince your voters.
So anyway, that's a long win way to say. I
think my colleagues say they like to cut spending. And
by the way, if I hear another Republican say that
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they want to talk about the phrase we have a
revenue problem instead of a spending problem, I sit in
these meetings, all of my colleagues say that, yet all
for no efforts to actually cut spending. Those of us
that are trying to put fort efforts to cut spending, well,
they go, oh, guys, we can't do that. Well, we
can't touch medicaid, we can't go touch Oh but okay,
Joe Biden expanded food stamps. We didn't support it, but
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now that'd be really hard to cut. Yeah, we don't
like the Green New Deal. But I need my free
money for my corn States. I need my free money
for my well in gas companies in Houston.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Whatever it is. Our guys need to just say, there's
no more room in the end.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
You don't get any more grants, you don't get any
more subsidies. We're going to stop this spending and we're
going to clean up the government. But you know, you've
got to have leadership, and God bless Elon and the
President for providing some of that leadership right now.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Chip real quick handicap this spending bill that's coming. I
know you're all over this thing trying to hammer out
some sort of a decent bill.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
We rarely win.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
In fact, I take that back, we never win these things.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Are we going to win this one? Well?
Speaker 7 (18:47):
I hope.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
So we had a really good meeting in the White
House last week. And I don't tend to be one
that divulges contents at private meetings, but a lot of
it's been reported, and we were doing, I think, the
really hard work of trying to force the conversation about
what we need to do on the tax front and
the spending front. Now, you and I and most of
the conservatives I know would abolish most or all of
the tax code.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
You know, we'd go back to something.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
I appreciate what the President wants to do in terms
of external collection with tariffs, but you need to make
sure that you're not taxing people too much on the
inside right into our revenue service and our income tax
code and all the complexities of the tax code.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Cut it, abolish it, get rid of it. Comma.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
However, every Republican I know is totally fine running on
spend on tax cuts, but refuse to do any of
the spending cuts side. So what I'm saying is, guys,
I want your tax cuts. I want to actually raise you.
I'll see your five trillion dollars in tax cuts and
how I'll give you seven or eight. But you got
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to give me at least a certain amount of cuts.
We believe we need to get at least two and
a half trillion dollars of cuts over ten years.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Now, Jesse, let me be very clear about what I mean.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
That is only two hundred billion dollars a year out
of a seven trillion dollar total government spend. That's what
I'm asking my colleagues to give me his cuts as
a down payment on what we.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Need to do to going forward. And a lot of
them are saying we can't do that, that's too hard.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Well, and I'm telling them, guys, if you want your
tax cuts, then you're gonna give me your spending cuts.
And you know how they respond to that. They go
out to the press and they say chip Roy opposes
tax cuts. Not true, I oppose blank check just saying oh,
I'm gonna do tax cuts because I want to go
buy off my voters but I'm not going to do
the hard work of spending cuts.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I'm going to keep fighting that fight, keep after them. Congressman,
thank you for what you do. Thanks Jesse Couples. We
got Michael Malice coming up next.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
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Speaker 3 (21:45):
Slash Jesse Kelly, we'll be.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
Back suggested rules in a way that you don't like.
They can just be clocify himself.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Do you agree that I don't know even what you're talking?
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Is that neither do you?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Who you with?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Whos? I no wonder they I thought they died? Are
they still around? I haven't read that. I missed that
so much.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Joining me now somebody who loves that stuff, probably more
than even I do. The host of your Welcome my
friend Michael Malice. Michael, I don't even care the subject
they were talking about. I just love watching corporate journalists
get bullied like losers.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I think it's fantastic.
Speaker 9 (22:38):
Do you know what Trump did which was so brilliant
and what he picked up on which I don't think
a lot of people did. The guy said, your vice
president suggested blah blah blah blah blah. So he's asking
Trump to react to his interpretation of what JD. Van
said instead of saying your vice president said this, do
you agree? So this is how the game they play.
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So I could say I go, somebody else to go.
Jesse Kelly made some comments that some people have described
as racially insensitive. What do you think? It's a gotcha game.
It's not reacting to what you actually said. It's characterizing
you in a certain way and pitting people against each
other in a very disingenious way. And I'm so glad
Trump's like, go after yourself like he and he knew
before he even kne who the guy was, the guys
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whom are disruptive organization.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
He didn't even he.
Speaker 9 (23:25):
Wasn't even like He's like where are you at? Like
because he knows even NBC or CBS crap, Like he's like,
where you where are you from?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I'm from.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
It's a very New York thing, like where where are
you from? How'd you get it here?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I have met a bunch of racially insensitive comments. It's
who I am anyway, So that's fine. I think everybody,
I think everyone accepts it at this point in time. Okay, Michael,
how do these people see themselves? These filthy corporate journalist
types who were worthy of so much scorn? Are they
just are they just trying to earn a paycheck?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And they know he's got to ask that question.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
He's gotta be a filthy little communist tack that he
genuinely think he's some kind of communist revolutionary. I still
can't figure these people out completely.
Speaker 9 (24:05):
Well, I don't know how they look at themselves, because
they don't cast a reflection. But I don't think it's
as simple as them just like, oh, I have to
do this for the paycheck, because if that was the case,
someone else could give him more money and they could
do a better job.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Right.
Speaker 9 (24:18):
So I don't think he thinks the commist revolutionary either.
I think they think correctly. You know, I'm a random
nobody with some degree from some secondary school. I'm antagonizing
the president of the United States. That's a pretty good
gig for someone with very few qualities that are ragworthy.
But these gotcha games are over, and they've been over,
(24:41):
especially when you had you know, Officer Harris as the
last nominee and she couldn't answer, you know, the differ
between her right and her left.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
So I think things are going in a much better direction.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Obviously, Michael Trump's clearing out these agencies well, trying to
obviously going to try to throw a monkey wrench in.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
The gears as much as possible.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
But what I'm sitting there this morning, and I'm reading
through all these articles about the FEMA payments in the
US eight and all the crap that we've all been
talking about for a couple of weeks, and it really
hits me.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I'm genuinely impressed.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I hate these people, but I am so impressed how
they've spent decades just taking over every institution and turning
it into something that only works for them and works
against us. And we've just been blissfully unaware, just kind
of whistling past the graveyard as they took it all.
They took the Boy Scouts, and we were just doing
nothing about it.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
I don't think we're whistling at all.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
I think a lot of people were complaining with this
for a very long time, and Republicans in Washington do
crap about it. Or what would happened is when Obama's
building something, they would pitch a fit correctly, and then
as soon as Trump comes in, or as soon as
George W. Bush came in, they just left it standing.
They refuse to take back what their opponents had built.
And this is the first time in either of our lifetimes, Jesse,
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where we're publican president is putting points on the board.
Instead of just playing defense, he's going on offense. And
everyone listening to this knows how demoralizing it is to
have things taken away. Let's suppose we walk into our house, Jesse,
someone broke in and they just took I don't know,
like a like a loaf of bread. It's loaf of bread.
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Who cares, But that sense of violation. Someone's been in
my home, something's been taken from me. It's morally disturbing.
So that is what's so great about what he's doing.
He's taking the fight to them. He's going to their
house and he's taking things that they regard as sakra
saying LBJ level executive orders. I mean, this was not
on the table in twenty twenty four. So I am
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giddy about what's going to happen next four years. And
as a fan of mine pointed out, Trump lied, he
said we'd get sick of winning, and that's complete bs.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
It did.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
And I've tried to I've tried to warn people that
you think you're mad about USAID, and of course we're
all mad about USAID, and we're in enjoying watching it
all get exposed. Wait till the old Pentagon audit comes
through there are that we've.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Seen just the tips so far.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
There is so much more coming, and I think it's
going to be eye popping for a lot of normies
out there, because, as you said, some of us have
been screaming up about this for a long time. We've
just never had anyone with the guts to actually do
something about it.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
Yeah, and I think with the normies, when people are
lied to, regardless of your politics, people get upset. So
if you're funding things like Politico and some of these
news organizations, normies who were told for years were independent journalists,
we speak truth to power, and now you're getting millions
from the government that's obviously not being independent at all.
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That's being an agent of the state. That's a very
different situation. And the thing is, my understanding is Trump
basically re engineered a program that Obama had built. So
this is why legally they're having such issues stopping it.
It's not a doge, is not a new organization. It's
a repurposing of an Obama built organization. And they don't
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know what to do to stop it, and they can't,
and he's really on its hair, and it's just Jesse.
Not only did neither of us ever see something like
this in our lifetimes, I think both of us would
have agreed if you asked us in November if something
this would happen, we'd be like, slow your role.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
We could be optimistic, but come on, Washington is slow.
This is not going to happen. Let's be realistic.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I think I said that verbatim. I'm pretty sure I
said that verbatim on my show. Trump's gonna do a
lot of good things. He's going to get the borders secured.
Slow down on how he's going to fix all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
This is not Oh, I was the King Sit I
called all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
He's going so fast, Michael, I got to check my
phone for updates during the commercial breaks of the show
because God only knows what kind of what he's attacking
next of these people.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Honestly, it was a couple of weeks ago some congress
woman introduced some bill to put Trump's face on Mount Rushmore,
and I'll be honest, I completely rolled my eyes. I
read it and thought, Okay, that's the dumbest freaking thing
I've ever heard. If he actually eliminates the Department of
Transportation or Department of Education.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Actually Transportation can go too. If he actually.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Deletes the Department of Education, you can remove the other
four name for other four faces. As far as I'm considered,
just make Trump the wholemount Rushmore.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
Screw him out. Rushmore, put him on the currency.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Ha ha oh, they lose their minds, they put them,
put them on a dollar bill and watch all these
libs burn their money.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
What's even funniers?
Speaker 9 (29:30):
As someone else pointed out, now every teacher has him
on the wall twice with that hall of precedent, because.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
He's forty five and forty seven. You gotta look at
that face twice.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Okay, Michael.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
The Democrat Party is in disarray, and I certainly it's
not a party I want to revive at all. But
parties do come back. You have pointed it out to
me several times before. This is a party that has
held power really for most of the time, certainly most
of the twentieth century in Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
They will, oh, will come back. Right now. It's hard
to see how that happens.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Jasmine Crockett can't get her fat mouth off the television set.
They appear to be leader lists doubling down on everything
that wasn't working.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Where do they go from here?
Speaker 9 (30:13):
There's two ways, and one is really scary and one
is really not so scary.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
Which one do you want to hear first?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Oh? I want to hear them not so scary. We'll
finish with scary.
Speaker 9 (30:23):
The not so scary is the John Federan route, where
you work with the Republicans on issues that like a
huge percentage of Americans agree on, and then you pick
your battles on the things that the Republicans the country
has not come around to, and you find a path
forward because a lot of people for many years have
voted Democrat. When Upton Sinclair ran for governor of California
nineteen thirty four, after running several times as socialist, he
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ran as a Democrat, and he said, people like voting
for parties that the grandparents voted for. So that brand name,
although it's tarnished now, is still a household name that
everyone knows. So there's definitely a path to go this
Clinton nineties Democrat way, in the same way the Republican
Party was dead of at George W.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
Bush and look what ended up happening.
Speaker 9 (31:03):
The scary route is there's a lot of people in
the Democratic Party and the Democratic intellectual intellect intelligentsia who
want us to go back to a regimented COVID style regime.
They want this, they want the cage, and going in
that direction as they're going in England is a path
forward for at least some members of the Democratic Party
and some of the leaders in power. Instead of the
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soft glove, let's get the iron fist.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I don't think you're wrong about that at all. It's
all they understand is force. Anyway, all right, Michael, I
have to let you go. Thank you, my brother, amount
of time. Come back soon, great pleasure. All right, Let's
do something we never do on the show ever. But
there was a Super Bowl yesterday and I realized you
probably watched it. Shoot, I watched it. I was at
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a party. You know, I don't watch the NFL, but
I watched the game this was on. Let's talk a
little bit about that next. Before we talk about that,
let's talk about putting our money where our morals are.
Where do you have your cell phone? Who's your mobile
phone company? I have Puretalk, CEO of my company fought
in Vietnam two tours. When you get a hold of
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someone at Puretalk, you'll be shocked because they'll be pleasant
and they speak English.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Why is that?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Because Puretalk hires Americans right here in America. No more
having to deal with click click and some godforsaken third
world dump. Now you get to talk to an American
switch to cell phone service. You don't sacrifice coverage on
the same five G network, and you'll pay less.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I pay half of what I was paying a T Mobile.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Half free phones right now with qualifying plans. You realize
that puretalk dot com slash jessetv.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Not a great day, I guess for Taylor Swift. Kind
of a crappy super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I don't know. Are they all going like this now
in the NFL?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Joining me now, Jake Crane, Blaine Crane, and David Cohne,
co hosts of Crane and Company on the Daily Wire,
which is highly, highly entertaining. Okay, so, Jake, I guess
I'll start with you. I haven't really watched the NFL
in a few years, which makes me that weird guy
at the party now who doesn't know who anyone is.
But I went to the Super Bowl party yesterday and
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a couple of things have apparently changed. There's a white
cornerback and Patrick Mahomes sucks.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
What happened in the last few years since I stopped
watching h.
Speaker 10 (33:45):
Yeah, well, you hopped in at a crazy time and typically, look,
most super Bowls don't go like that. You know, sometimes
hit the flip of a point, and we kind of
saw some of that in the College Ball playoff as well.
But I'm gonna be honest. Overall, the super Bowl wasn't great.
The halftime show was terrible, but they Boode Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
And gave Trump a standing ovation.
Speaker 10 (34:02):
Part of me feels like America's back a little bit,
so you can take some solid jesse into that.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Now.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
As far as the white Corner.
Speaker 10 (34:09):
I mean, we talked about it on Craning Company. I
mean it's to the point now where we're asking, could
this be our version of Jackie Robinson.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
I don't know, we're gonna find out.
Speaker 10 (34:17):
But yeah, the uh he's breaking barriers left and right,
and we call him Haru the Great White Ninja.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
All Right, I gotta I gotta know before we get
into the halftime show with the ads and everything else,
I gotta know what was on the menu fellas me personally,
I was going to a party, so I smoked my
world famous kso did for three hours on a smoker.
We all know what the hit of the party was.
It wasn't the chuck, It wasn't it was mine. What'd
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you guys eat?
Speaker 11 (34:50):
We had a lot of pizza and wings. Do you
want to tell him what one fancas?
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah? So yeah.
Speaker 10 (34:56):
We live streamed the Super Bowl from a cigar bar
and sometimes and people in the audience will send us food.
Somebody decided to decided to send us a barbecue, pineapple
an anchovy pizza, which is awful, And to be honest
with you, I think it's how COVID starts.
Speaker 11 (35:10):
You might take issue with the pineapple, though, Yeah, I'm
fine with the anchovies on the barbecue.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
That's not as serious saying David. No one said I
love it. I love barbar yourself.
Speaker 11 (35:19):
When you don't put pineapple on there, though, that's where
I draw.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Did you eat any of the anchovies? I would have
taken them off? Yeah, but yeah, no, it's uh.
Speaker 10 (35:26):
Look, we're typically wings and pizza guys, but not with pineapple,
anchovies and barbecue sauce. That's uh, it's just Unamerican.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I want caeso, though, well, you got to smoke the
caso too, Fellas.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
It's not just enough to have queso.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
You have to take the time, put the high quality
cheeses like Velveta in there, and make sure you're really doing.
Speaker 10 (35:45):
Something classic Jesse, oh the finest.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Okay, Okay, So look, you guys are young. I'm old
as you can see.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I had to turn to my wife and ask who
is Kendrick Lamar? And I realized due to the look
on her face.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I now know that that was a stupid question.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
But apparently this guy's really popular. I have nothing against rap,
I'm not much of a rapman myself, but I couldn't
understand a single word that guy was saying. I hate
to stand like my father, but there was no melody,
there was.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Nothing to jam to. It was a dead for their
feet to bed deep.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I have no idea what happened during that time, absolute
straight garbage.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Imagine coming to New Orleans for the.
Speaker 11 (36:24):
Super Bowl, the home of Little Wayne, and yeah, it's
not a hip hop thing.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
You can't even get.
Speaker 11 (36:28):
Someone like Lil Wayne to come out there if you're
dead set on hip hop. Three solutions Jesse to fix
the halftime performance either one. Let Chris Stapleton do it
every single year, because if you already love for his
nap and boem and to win, if you don't get ready,
you're about to fall in love. Also, we don't need
the theatric I don't need dancers, don't need backup singers. Heck,
he didn't even need a guitar or really even a
microphone or a stage. Just put him on the fifty
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yard line seeing broken Halo's acapella and get ready to
feel something for a few minutes. Second solution is a
different genre artist for everyone who wants to tune in.
We can figure out the technology. If you want to
listen to country music artists, you switch to the to
stop with the be hof. You want to listen to
Creed and Rock, you know, you can flip to the
one that has them as their halftime performer. Or third,
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we just get rid of it all together, because elite
athletes running into each other for three minutes should be
entertaining enough.
Speaker 12 (37:16):
Well, can we can we keep the option of Chris
Stapleton and Creed one of the two, one of the two.
We can pick a different one every year.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
If you want to do that.
Speaker 12 (37:23):
But the thing about Kendrick Lamar is he has great songs.
He's a good artist. I mean, go back through his time.
The amount of hits this guy has is absolutely ridiculous
in you just couldn't understand what he's saying. Is somend
like Joe Biden on a debate stage And I don't
even know if you had subtiles up there, they could
have even done it. So at some point Kendrick has
good songs him and the Drake Beef's kind of weird.
I'll never get it. I don't want to get it.
But can we at least understand what you're saying?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, Now, look, I really haven't enjoyed a halftime show
since Janet Jackson. But that's another story entirely. Let's changed
the subject to.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Talk about the.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Change the subject and talk about Uh. One thing I
did notice, and I don't know whether this is the
thing to stop watching the freaking NFL.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
There was a lot of God talking and I loved it.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Jalen Hurt's talking about it, Philly's head coach, I don't know,
Nick something talking about it.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
It seemed like a lot of players were more.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Focused on values, on God, on good things. Is this
I realized that's always been present in sports. But I
watched the post game at the party I was at.
It seemed to be a It seemed to be ramped
up from what I remember.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Is it.
Speaker 10 (38:26):
Yeah, we're seeing it a lot more and it's great.
I just wish the NFL marketing would get behind it,
because if you look at the way the NFL still
markets itself from a DEI structure, from a left wing structure,
from the pride, you know, element of this.
Speaker 12 (38:40):
The NFL marketing.
Speaker 10 (38:41):
The only reason they haven't gone the way the NBA
is because we.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Love football so much.
Speaker 10 (38:45):
If it was basketball, they'd be going the way of
the NBA. But it's so nice to see guys and listen,
believe in what you want to believe.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
I'm all for that.
Speaker 10 (38:51):
But having the ability to not have the fear of
being able to go out and say it, I think
is truly American. And you're kind of seeing a coalescing
of that. And I think, you know, you're seeing the
amount of guys NFL and professional athletes that are coming
out and really saying they like Trump. And I think
most guys in the NFL voted for him, But I'm
all for a free speech, freedom of religion and being
able to talk about it. But we're seeing this all
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over sports, Jesse. It's not just the NFL. You look
at college basketball, you look at college football. It's really
starting to become normal again. And I'm really excited. They
took in racism out of the zone.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
No, we beat it out. We're no longer racist. No,
we beat racism. They took it out.
Speaker 11 (39:27):
Also, Nick Something is a heck of a head coach.
He really did it is it is. In many ways,
I felt like we were back to my childhood. I mean, one,
the sitting president showed up and.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
People cheered like that was great, like you first time ever.
Speaker 11 (39:40):
But that's something that when we were growing up, if
a sitting president showed up, no matter what party cheered.
Second of all, the game wasn't close. Most of the
games growing up were most of the Super Bowls when
I was growing up, they weren't really close games.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
And then, third of all, some of the commercials were funny.
Some of them were funny, which.
Speaker 11 (39:55):
They've set the bar solo the past couple of years
with no humor whatsoever. When we saw two or three
that made me laugh. I said, maybe we are running back.
We're Super Bowl of all time.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Though right overall, I've seen some bad ones. Man, I'm
alive as bad as bad. Why wasn't it good?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I hate to ask the question like the non sports
guy now, which apparently that's what I've become, which is
really really embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
I'm basically a woman, but I.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Thought the Kansas City Chiefs were supposed to be good.
I walk into the party and all my bodies are like,
it's going to be a juggernaut game. They've each lost
like one or two games, So why did the game suck?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (40:30):
Well, you know, Jesse, last year, you probably could have
got away with saying you're a woman. I think it's
starting to change now with kind of the news as
far as the as far as the game goes, it
was surprising to us because you didn't think it was
going to be a blowout either way. I wasn't going
to be shocked at the Eagles won, but it was
such a dominating performance at the line of scrimmage upfront,
and that's where the game is won and lost in football,
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all the way from the NFL to Friday Night Tikes
all the way through it. The Eagles didn't have to
bring extra guys to add pressure. They rush for all nights.
I don't think they live once when you look back
at it. The Chiefs couldn't run the ball the Eagles
could take on wasn't amazing, but they got enough to
keep themselves balanced. It was just an overwhelming tsunami of
dominance at the line of scrimmage where the game is
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truly went and lost, and then it started to snowball
on the Chiefs and they just ran out of time.
I'm gonna be honest with you, though, I think you
could have played sixteen quarters and the Chiefs aren't coming
back to that game.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
No, they were not coming back. That was a beating
from the get go. All right, let's switch this up
really quickly. Sports betting, I have no I have nothing
against it whatsoever. I've done it on a smaller scale,
you know, five bucks on the game with a buddy, but.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
It's huge now.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
The industry itself is enormous, the draft kings, the advertising.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Where do you guys fall on sports betting? You won
five bucks, didn't you? Yeah?
Speaker 12 (41:48):
I mean you got a couple of zeros that actually
six grand after the Super Bowl, which is a win
for me. I think sports betting is only going to
get bigger and bigger. It's to the point now where
you don't even have to like the sport to watch it.
If you bet on it, you'll watch it. I mean,
I watched underwater ping pong last night because I had
fifteen dollars on it. It was a heck of a match.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
It was a heck of match. The Chinese ended up winning.
That's a surprise there.
Speaker 12 (42:07):
Betting is only going to get bigger, I mean more.
You got to think you might have DraftKings, you might
have all these big sports book but there's a lot
of sports books under them, and it's only going to
expand because people want to bet money even if they
don't like the sport. Hell, I went to a hockey
game the other day. I don't even like watching hockey,
but I bet on it end up winning five hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Best believe I'll go back.
Speaker 10 (42:27):
Well, Jesse, we bring this point up all the time.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Here's what I don't understand.
Speaker 10 (42:31):
Like I'll give you there's certain states in the South
that have a lottery, but they don't allow sports betting.
If you can somehow sit down and hold my hand
like the five year old and explain to me.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
How the lottery is not bad, but.
Speaker 10 (42:44):
Sports betting is bad. I would really love to hear that.
And if you believe that there's some beachfront property in
Kansas that I've got a great deal onto a buddy
of mine that we split the profits on, it just
shocks me that those two things can can one can
exist and one cannot exist in sad.
Speaker 11 (43:00):
And like everything else in life, the way you engage
with it in moderation, that really is the key to it.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah, bet responsible, Yeah, obviously you don't want to go
blowing the whole family fortune there, all right, Jake, tell
me about this non woke sports show.
Speaker 10 (43:16):
Yeah, man, Look again, if you're a sports fan out
there and you grew up kind of the era we did,
like this wasn't even a conversation like the old school
sports centers, you know, before Keith Olberman, you know, started
acting like they need to send him to Shutter Island.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
It's really trying to.
Speaker 10 (43:29):
Give people the sports show that they grew up with,
because look, there's culture and our times where culture in
sports touch each other and we hit these things we
talk about nil obviously the men and women's sports thing.
We did a movie Ladyballers for the Daily Wire on
it's such a crazy thing. But when we do the
sports show, we want to give you something that.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Is common sense.
Speaker 6 (43:47):
Right.
Speaker 12 (43:47):
You hear this all the time.
Speaker 10 (43:48):
Now common sense is back in play where it's great
sports analysis. We're going to tell you our opinion when
it touches culture, and a lot of times it's going
to be common sense and we're not afraid to say things.
But it's kind of going back in the timeche back
to when we grew up where you want sports to
get away from all the craziness, right where the craziness
is just the vichery all through the fans, not everybody
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being divided because of what they look like. And to me,
that's the best part about sports is the fastball doesn't
care if you're Hispanic or Asian or white. The football
doesn't care if you're straight, gay or whatever. We're just
trying to give people that avenue back like we grew
up and what helped.
Speaker 12 (44:23):
Us ball in love us.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Fellas, appreciate you very much. We need a sports show
like that.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Gosh, I missed the old Sports Center anyway, We're not done.
Speaker 12 (44:33):
Something smoke caeso though, I'll hook you guys up with
the recipe.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Yes, we're not done lighting the moody.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Thanks, all right, it is time to lighten the mood.
And every now and then you get just a little
segment on CNN that puts a huge smile on your face.
Sit back and relax and watch these hags on CNN
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have a conversation about an employee of Elon Musk who
went by the online name big Balls.
Speaker 13 (45:13):
So this is a nineteen year old high school graduate
who has used the unfortunate nickname big Balls online, so
that would be one way that we could refer to him.
He is now working at Musk's behest inside Doge and
we looked into his background and so we found, you know,
several notable things erin, one of which is that this
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individual has founded multiple companies, including one with another unfortunate name,
Tesla dot SEXYLLC, which he established in twenty twenty one,
he would have been around sixteen years old. Now this
LLC controls dozens of web domains.
Speaker 14 (45:49):
So, Kara, you know you hear this, and you have
known Elon Musk for years. So now you look at
these young men who are now in data and in
the private information about maybe hundreds of millions of American
citizens as young as nineteen. The big balls here that
Katy's talking about, most of them are in their early twenties.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
There's an exception.
Speaker 14 (46:07):
I'm going to get you in a minute. I'm curious, though, Kara,
how well does even Musk know these young matt do
you think?
Speaker 15 (46:14):
I have no idea. I think there is no betting whatsoever.
As you can see that's taking place. It took Katie
and the really great team. Wired has done an astonishing
job here. You know, I could make a joke. That's
probably why he was hiring for all this ridiculous nonsense
and other nefarious things. But you know, there's an expression
in technology. It's a feature, not a bug.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
All right, I'll suitable
Let's talk tariffs with Ross Kennedy. Let's talk spending cuts
with Chip Roy. Michael Malice joins us to make fun
of the media. We have such a great show coming
up tonight, and I'm right all right before we get
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to tariff talk with Ross Kennedy. Here, in just a moment,
I wanted to do something we try to do every
time we find out about it on the show. We
honor the fallen who died during training. They are the
forgotten heroes of our time. We lost the United States
Marine mister Sergeant Jacob M. Durham died working with the Filipinos.
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It's it was a crash. It happens. It's a dangerous profession.
The training itself is dangerous. And you know that young man,
Sergeant Durham gave his life for his country, no different
than the guy who charges up a hill. He gave
his life for his country. It's to simplify my brother
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in prayers for his family. Now, tariffs, We're gonna be
talking a lot about tariffs in the coming years. I
would imagine Trump came out had this say.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Reciprocal tariffs, and very simply, it's if they charge us,
we charge them. That's all in fact almost immediately, but
I'll be announcing the details of it, highly detailed, and
it'll be great for everybody, including the other countries. But
if they are charging us one hundred and thirty percent
and we're charging them nothing, it's not going to say
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that it won't affect everybody because there's somewhere we have
similar tariffs. But the ones that are taking advantage of
the United States, we're going to have a It's reciprocity.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It's reciprocal.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I love this.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
What I love the most is not necessarily the terriffs themselves.
I love that we're having conversations about tariff's economies, free markets, trade,
supply chains, things that Americans need to know about and
need to think about more than we have in the past.
Joining me now is somebody who knows a lot about
such things, my friend Ross Kennedy, founder of Fortist Analysis,
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supply chain Expert, among other things. Okay, Ross, tariffs are
nothing new, and Donald Trump is very much a Teddy
Roosevelt Republican type. They come, they go. Many of us
were raised on pure free markets.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Many love tariffs.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Where this Ross Kennedy fall As far as the strategy goes.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Well.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I think this continues a pattern that we've seen you
literally from day one of the administration, where the threat
of tariffs, that the imposition of them is designed to
be a way to bring our trade relationships back and balance,
where historically the United States has been a massive demand driver,
and so anybody that gets to do business with US,
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particularly countries that have free trade agreements or multilateral free
trade agreements, so Mexico and Canada obviously towards the very
top of that list as regards.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Steel and aluminum.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
It's really about rebalancing and kind of reweighing the scales.
But the reason it works with President Trump, the reason
and maybe wouldn't have worked historically, you know, particularly with
President Obama, President Biden, whoever it may be, is that
they believe and rightfully so. The President Trump is very,
very very serious about this. He has made no secret
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of the agenda to reshore to the extent that reshoring,
you know, maybe can't happen fast enough to use ally
shoring or friend shoring, particularly in the Western hemisphere for
a lot of these critical materials, components, parts, electronics, chips,
all of these things, and so we're seeing more of
the same of that here with the steel and aluminum tariffs.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Okay, let's get into those steel in alluminum tariffs. Why
how do we allow critical materials like that to land
purely in the hands of China anyway? And what are
we doing?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Well, you kind of have to break them out into
separate domains. Both, you know, do share the common thing
of they are extremely resource intensive, particularly from an infrastructure side,
A steel mill or an aluminum boundary uses a massive
amount of energy, They use a massive amount of water,
they use a massive amount of electricity. So when you
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take all of that into account, you know, and and
then on top of that, they're not exactly the most
environmentally friendly types of manufacturing and refining operations. So with
the rise of the EPA, with the rise of energy
prices and overregulation and it taking five six seven years
to kind of cut through all the red tape, it's
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just not been as cheap or as as time sensitive
to be able to build or to continue to operate
steel and aluminum manufacturing operations in the United States. And
then you set aside the fact that a lot of
the materials that you need to actually produce this can
be procured pretty inexpensively, largely from countries like you know,
China or from Brazil that maybe don't have as many
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environmental controls on it. And so this was really kind
of capitalism run amuck, so to speak, in the sense
of people forgot that these were critical sectors. That the
arsenal of democracy that we had in World War two
and the post World War two boom was not just
because we made physical things in the US. It's because
we made the materials that made the things in the US.
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But we degraded that over time. We kind of believed
that nothing was ever going to, you know, come against
the United States's ability to dictate supply and demand for
a lot of these things, and so we lost that edge.
And so now where we're at is that you know,
our five biggest trade partners on steel. You have Canada,
you have Mexico, you have Brazil, you have South Korea,
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and you have Japan. Really, Canada and Mexico have benefited
substantially and the most heavily from it. Brazil as of
right now is our number two steel partner, and that
is a country that has largely fallen under the sway
of China. In the last number of years, and so
what we're seeing is is that two of our five
key partners are on the wrong side of the world,
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and they are absolutely essential allies and this will fall
hard on them as well. Both countries depend on steel
exports as major things, but Canada and Mexico really seem
to be the targets here, with Brazil as kind of
a secondary target. Which is the reminder that you guys
have benefited enormously from this trade relationship with the US.
And just like we've seen specifically, you know, tariff supplied
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on the two you know, USMCA, formerly NAFTA countries, this
is more of the same. But when we talk about aluminum,
which is really the interesting one, it's that box side
is the critical mineral that produces you know sometimes it's
called you know, aluminum war is what you see it as.
But when you produce, when you take box site and
you refine it, it doesn't go straight into aluminum. It
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goes into an intermediate material called alumina. And then alumina
is what then gets alloyed to make aluminum. But when
you make alumina, something drops out in that process about
ten percent by weight, and that's gallium. Gallium was one
of the very first two of the critical minerals that
China cut off to the US, alongside germanium last year
or the year before. I forget now, but when we
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were going through another round of export controls, the first
thing they hit were gallium and germanium. Because without gallium
and germanium and then a few other things like antimony
and graphene, you don't have space age electronics, you don't
have bleeding edge missile systems, you don't have F thirty fives,
you don't have the guts of what makes our defense
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industry so overwhelmingly powerful from a manufacturing side, because we
don't make a lot of those. But aluminum in particular
is critically important. Not only is a building material and
as a critical infrastructure material were restoring and rebuilding the US,
we're also losing out on all that gallleum, and China
has completely cornered the global market on that particular critical mineral,
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and really the only way to get to it cost
effectively is by refining box site into alumina and turning
illumina into aluminum.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
A lot of people don't know I'm an expert on
this stuff too, And if you keep heating up all
that stuff. It turns into the illuminati. Just so everybody knows. Okay, Ross,
let's talk about the Yeah, yeah, I I I knew
you were on the same page.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
There.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
The EPA is still there, ross the regulations, the red tape,
it's all still there. My question to you is, Okay,
it's fine, you Goetna hammer China. You want to be
treated more fairly on all this stuff, that's fine, But
we haven't. We haven't significantly cut through the red tape,
the regulation. The processes here are still just as complicated
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and horrible as they were before. Yeah, Donald Trump's gonna
trim that down, but it might have another Democrat in
four years.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
It's just gonna ramp it right back. So what does
this all mean for the consumer?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Well, for right now, you know, if you're looking at
having a steel frame building, for example, tariffs might make
it a little.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Bit more expensive in the short run.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
But we don't even know that these tariffs are actually
going to have any impact yet. An awful lot of
the threat and tariffs have been walked back as just
the threat alone has been enough to secure some form
of cooperation on other issues. So when you look at it,
even on a short term impact, I think that a
lot of people have kind of already figured the game
out and they're going to sit back and they're going
to wait and see a little bit. Now in the
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market side, you have seen it be bullish for US manufacturers.
You saw new Core and Steel Dynamics and US Steel.
You saw you know, trades up big on these announcements
because a lot of these companies are not going to
pay the twenty five percent additional plus what maybe looked
at on countervailing duties and anti dumping duties that could
be coming down the line.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
So it is good for US producers.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
A pressure campaign from the President would be pretty simple
to say, guys, don't get out over your skis here.
Don't immediately start charging buyers and consumers a lot more
for this just because you think you can. We're going
to be having some level of oversight on that long
term when you see the announced US Sovereign Fund, when
you see some of the other announcements or hinting at
(10:20):
announcements as far as cutting the regulatory process and review
process down to thirty sixty ninety days for multiple years,
when you're starting to see very very pro business pro reshoring,
individuals coming in to lead these regulatory agencies. The signaling
of all of that will have a mitigating impact as well.
So this is really I think a lot of a
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shaping operation, so to speak, to getting the environment right
to begin reshoring and to begin building at scale again
in the US.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Time will tail.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
You may see for a bit of price taking, if
you will, from the market where they have to kind
of take higher prices in the very very short term.
But over when you look out over six months, twelve months,
twenty four months, I think that you will see the
net impact of this to be extremely positive.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Ross, my brother, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Come back soon, Thank you, Jesse. Congressman Chip Roy joins us.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Next, we're going to talk about the spending, the spending
bills that are coming.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
How bad is it going to be or good? I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Maybe he's got some good news for us before I
do that. Let's do this really quickly. Here do you
deal with expense reports? I have expenses. Come with the job.
Bob handles all the accounting, all the expense reports. Now
this is the one man operation, right, I have the expenses.
She handles the reports, still a nightmare? How do you
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Speaker 3 (12:48):
Terms and conditions may apply. We'll be back.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Is funding Sesame Street a judicious use of soft power? Well, Michael,
the way you put it is the way I hope
folks considering your poll today will think about it. This
isn't just funding a kid show for children, millions of
children in countries like Iraq. It's a show that helps
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teach values, helps teach public health, helps prevent kids from
dying from dysentery and disease, and helps push values like collaboration, peacefulness,
cooperation in a society where the alternative is isis extremism
and terrorism. And to your point, it's pennies on the dollar.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I am so happy.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I'm not a Democrat for a variety of reasons, but
today I'm extra ecstatic because now these people are forced
to go on television and with the straight face defend
giving twenty million dollars for some crappy, sesame street show
in Iraq that I'm sure nobody watch. Joining me now,
Congressman Chip War from the Great State of Texas, Chip,
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you have to be absolutely loving this right now. Imagine
having to go on television and actually defend that kind
of slow No one supports this, nobody.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Yeah, I mean I had At first I thought that
was parody. I heard it, and I thought that was somehow,
somehow a joke or something that somebody was on there
trying to defend that.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
But that's what we're dealing with. And at least in
that case it was a Democrat.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
All too often it's my Republican colleagues who, you know, unfortunately,
a lot of us were offering amendments to stripting these
things out over the last several years. You'll remember during
the Speaker's debate a couple of years ago, one of
the key things we fought for was the ability to
offer lots of amendments, particularly amendments to cut spending. Well,
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we did that, and we offered amendments. For example, Eli
Crane offered one to cut usaid USAID by fifty percent,
and unfortunately, one hundred and fourteen of my Republican colleagues.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Voted against that amendment. And I'm not here to look.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
We've got to go bet the Democrats and Republicans are
united right now generally to do that. But you're seeing
the consequence of years of the establishment that we're opposing
those of us trying to highlight all of these things.
I offered amendments to strip unrun United Nations, you know,
nonsense sending money to the Gaza and the Palestinians and
(15:23):
Hamas and they were funding our enemies, so, you know,
funding the United Nations generally, the World Health Organization, all
things that we should be defunding, and we had trouble
getting our Republican colleagues to agree. I think Elon and
Doge and the President are going to start changing some minds.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I hope.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Can you give me the why on that for the
establishment Republicans?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
And this is what I mean by that.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
It's not hard to figure out why some filthy communist
activists would get a job at USA and go teach
child trainees in the Philippines how to put a condom on?
But why would establishment Republicans? What do they get out
of any of this stuff? How do they get out
of funding the World Health Organization?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Why?
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Well, there's two or three things going on. Let me
give you a legitimate defense of my colleagues broadly, which
is a lack of staffing in Congress relative to the
executive branch.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
We are overwhelmed thousands to one.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Right, I only have about six or seven staff here
that are dedicated to policy and communications, and I just
lost several of them to the administration. So it's hard
for us to keep up with all the stuff and
we have to go track all of this stuff while
everything's incoming. But now let me give you the more
cynical view, which is too many of my Republican colleagues
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have never met a spending program that they didn't like
because they view it as a way to basically buy votes,
particularly when your leadership is solely focused on so called
majority makers, that is the more moderate ends of the
conference saying well, if we don't win those seats, then
we won't have the majority.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Now let me just take you back.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
You remember I ran against When Davis and around Austin,
Texas in twenty twenty. Well, I was pretty unabashedly outspokenly
conservative in an R plus four district that is a
marginal district. Yet I found a way to increase that
majority win and actually out before most of my colleagues,
and I won that seat with seven point margin.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
But it just took work.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
I didn't hide from my views, I didn't hide from
my beliefs. I ran on what I call healthcare freedom.
I ran on cutting programs. I gave her so many
ads to run against me, and she ran them all.
But you know what, go out and convince your voters.
So anyway, that's a long win way to say. I
think my colleagues say they like to cut spending. And
by the way, if I hear another Republican say that
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they want to talk about the phrase we have a
revenue problem instead of a spending problem, I sit in
these meetings, all of my colleagues say that, yet all
for no efforts to actually cut spending. Those of us
that are trying to put fort efforts to cut spending, well,
they go, oh, guys, we can't do that. Well, we
can't touch medicaid, we can't go touch Oh but okay,
Joe Biden expanded food stamps. We didn't support it, but
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now that'd be really hard to cut. Yeah, we don't
like the Green New Deal. But I need my free
money for my corn States. I need my free money
for my well in gas companies in Houston.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Whatever it is. Our guys need to just say, there's
no more room in the end.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
You don't get any more grants, you don't get any
more subsidies. We're going to stop this spending and we're
going to clean up the government. But you know, you've
got to have leadership, and God bless Elon and the
President for providing some of that leadership right now.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Chip real quick handicap this spending bill that's coming. I
know you're all over this thing trying to hammer out
some sort of a decent bill.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
We rarely win.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
In fact, I take that back, we never win these things.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Are we going to win this one? Well?
Speaker 7 (18:47):
I hope.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
So we had a really good meeting in the White
House last week. And I don't tend to be one
that divulges contents at private meetings, but a lot of
it's been reported, and we were doing, I think, the
really hard work of trying to force the conversation about
what we need to do on the tax front and
the spending front. Now, you and I and most of
the conservatives I know would abolish most or all of
the tax code.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
You know, we'd go back to something.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
I appreciate what the President wants to do in terms
of external collection with tariffs, but you need to make
sure that you're not taxing people too much on the
inside right into our revenue service and our income tax
code and all the complexities of the tax code.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Cut it, abolish it, get rid of it. Comma.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
However, every Republican I know is totally fine running on
spend on tax cuts, but refuse to do any of
the spending cuts side. So what I'm saying is, guys,
I want your tax cuts. I want to actually raise you.
I'll see your five trillion dollars in tax cuts and
how I'll give you seven or eight. But you got
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to give me at least a certain amount of cuts.
We believe we need to get at least two and
a half trillion dollars of cuts over ten years.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Now, Jesse, let me be very clear about what I mean.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
That is only two hundred billion dollars a year out
of a seven trillion dollar total government spend. That's what
I'm asking my colleagues to give me his cuts as
a down payment on what we.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Need to do to going forward. And a lot of
them are saying we can't do that, that's too hard.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Well, and I'm telling them, guys, if you want your
tax cuts, then you're gonna give me your spending cuts.
And you know how they respond to that. They go
out to the press and they say chip Roy opposes
tax cuts. Not true, I oppose blank check just saying oh,
I'm gonna do tax cuts because I want to go
buy off my voters but I'm not going to do
the hard work of spending cuts.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I'm going to keep fighting that fight, keep after them. Congressman,
thank you for what you do. Thanks Jesse Couples. We
got Michael Malice coming up next.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
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a good night's sleep.
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Huh. Every night. Good night's sleep is not an option.
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Speaker 3 (21:45):
Slash Jesse Kelly, we'll be.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
Back suggested rules in a way that you don't like.
They can just be clocify himself.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Do you agree that I don't know even what you're talking?
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Is that neither do you?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Who you with?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Whos? I no wonder they I thought they died? Are
they still around? I haven't read that. I missed that
so much.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Joining me now somebody who loves that stuff, probably more
than even I do. The host of your Welcome my
friend Michael Malice. Michael, I don't even care the subject
they were talking about. I just love watching corporate journalists
get bullied like losers.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I think it's fantastic.
Speaker 9 (22:38):
Do you know what Trump did which was so brilliant
and what he picked up on which I don't think
a lot of people did. The guy said, your vice
president suggested blah blah blah blah blah. So he's asking
Trump to react to his interpretation of what JD. Van
said instead of saying your vice president said this, do
you agree? So this is how the game they play.
(23:01):
So I could say I go, somebody else to go.
Jesse Kelly made some comments that some people have described
as racially insensitive. What do you think? It's a gotcha game.
It's not reacting to what you actually said. It's characterizing
you in a certain way and pitting people against each
other in a very disingenious way. And I'm so glad
Trump's like, go after yourself like he and he knew
before he even kne who the guy was, the guys
(23:23):
whom are disruptive organization.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
He didn't even he.
Speaker 9 (23:25):
Wasn't even like He's like where are you at? Like
because he knows even NBC or CBS crap, Like he's like,
where you where are you from?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I'm from.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
It's a very New York thing, like where where are
you from? How'd you get it here?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I have met a bunch of racially insensitive comments. It's
who I am anyway, So that's fine. I think everybody,
I think everyone accepts it at this point in time. Okay, Michael,
how do these people see themselves? These filthy corporate journalist
types who were worthy of so much scorn? Are they
just are they just trying to earn a paycheck?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And they know he's got to ask that question.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
He's gotta be a filthy little communist tack that he
genuinely think he's some kind of communist revolutionary. I still
can't figure these people out completely.
Speaker 9 (24:05):
Well, I don't know how they look at themselves, because
they don't cast a reflection. But I don't think it's
as simple as them just like, oh, I have to
do this for the paycheck, because if that was the case,
someone else could give him more money and they could
do a better job.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Right.
Speaker 9 (24:18):
So I don't think he thinks the commist revolutionary either.
I think they think correctly. You know, I'm a random
nobody with some degree from some secondary school. I'm antagonizing
the president of the United States. That's a pretty good
gig for someone with very few qualities that are ragworthy.
But these gotcha games are over, and they've been over,
(24:41):
especially when you had you know, Officer Harris as the
last nominee and she couldn't answer, you know, the differ
between her right and her left.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
So I think things are going in a much better direction.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Obviously, Michael Trump's clearing out these agencies well, trying to
obviously going to try to throw a monkey wrench in.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
The gears as much as possible.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
But what I'm sitting there this morning, and I'm reading
through all these articles about the FEMA payments in the
US eight and all the crap that we've all been
talking about for a couple of weeks, and it really
hits me.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I'm genuinely impressed.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I hate these people, but I am so impressed how
they've spent decades just taking over every institution and turning
it into something that only works for them and works
against us. And we've just been blissfully unaware, just kind
of whistling past the graveyard as they took it all.
They took the Boy Scouts, and we were just doing
nothing about it.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
I don't think we're whistling at all.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
I think a lot of people were complaining with this
for a very long time, and Republicans in Washington do
crap about it. Or what would happened is when Obama's
building something, they would pitch a fit correctly, and then
as soon as Trump comes in, or as soon as
George W. Bush came in, they just left it standing.
They refuse to take back what their opponents had built.
And this is the first time in either of our lifetimes, Jesse,
(25:59):
where we're publican president is putting points on the board.
Instead of just playing defense, he's going on offense. And
everyone listening to this knows how demoralizing it is to
have things taken away. Let's suppose we walk into our house, Jesse,
someone broke in and they just took I don't know,
like a like a loaf of bread. It's loaf of bread.
(26:19):
Who cares, But that sense of violation. Someone's been in
my home, something's been taken from me. It's morally disturbing.
So that is what's so great about what he's doing.
He's taking the fight to them. He's going to their
house and he's taking things that they regard as sakra
saying LBJ level executive orders. I mean, this was not
on the table in twenty twenty four. So I am
(26:40):
giddy about what's going to happen next four years. And
as a fan of mine pointed out, Trump lied, he
said we'd get sick of winning, and that's complete bs.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
It did.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
And I've tried to I've tried to warn people that
you think you're mad about USAID, and of course we're
all mad about USAID, and we're in enjoying watching it
all get exposed. Wait till the old Pentagon audit comes
through there are that we've.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Seen just the tips so far.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
There is so much more coming, and I think it's
going to be eye popping for a lot of normies
out there, because, as you said, some of us have
been screaming up about this for a long time. We've
just never had anyone with the guts to actually do
something about it.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
Yeah, and I think with the normies, when people are
lied to, regardless of your politics, people get upset. So
if you're funding things like Politico and some of these
news organizations, normies who were told for years were independent journalists,
we speak truth to power, and now you're getting millions
from the government that's obviously not being independent at all.
(27:41):
That's being an agent of the state. That's a very
different situation. And the thing is, my understanding is Trump
basically re engineered a program that Obama had built. So
this is why legally they're having such issues stopping it.
It's not a doge, is not a new organization. It's
a repurposing of an Obama built organization. And they don't
(28:03):
know what to do to stop it, and they can't,
and he's really on its hair, and it's just Jesse.
Not only did neither of us ever see something like
this in our lifetimes, I think both of us would
have agreed if you asked us in November if something
this would happen, we'd be like, slow your role.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
We could be optimistic, but come on, Washington is slow.
This is not going to happen. Let's be realistic.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I think I said that verbatim. I'm pretty sure I
said that verbatim on my show. Trump's gonna do a
lot of good things. He's going to get the borders secured.
Slow down on how he's going to fix all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
This is not Oh, I was the King Sit I
called all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
He's going so fast, Michael, I got to check my
phone for updates during the commercial breaks of the show
because God only knows what kind of what he's attacking
next of these people.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Honestly, it was a couple of weeks ago some congress
woman introduced some bill to put Trump's face on Mount Rushmore,
and I'll be honest, I completely rolled my eyes. I
read it and thought, Okay, that's the dumbest freaking thing
I've ever heard. If he actually eliminates the Department of
Transportation or Department of Education.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Actually Transportation can go too. If he actually.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Deletes the Department of Education, you can remove the other
four name for other four faces. As far as I'm considered,
just make Trump the wholemount Rushmore.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
Screw him out. Rushmore, put him on the currency.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Ha ha oh, they lose their minds, they put them,
put them on a dollar bill and watch all these
libs burn their money.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
What's even funniers?
Speaker 9 (29:30):
As someone else pointed out, now every teacher has him
on the wall twice with that hall of precedent, because.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
He's forty five and forty seven. You gotta look at
that face twice.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Okay, Michael.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
The Democrat Party is in disarray, and I certainly it's
not a party I want to revive at all. But
parties do come back. You have pointed it out to
me several times before. This is a party that has
held power really for most of the time, certainly most
of the twentieth century in Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
They will, oh, will come back. Right now. It's hard
to see how that happens.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Jasmine Crockett can't get her fat mouth off the television set.
They appear to be leader lists doubling down on everything
that wasn't working.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Where do they go from here?
Speaker 9 (30:13):
There's two ways, and one is really scary and one
is really not so scary.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
Which one do you want to hear first?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Oh? I want to hear them not so scary. We'll
finish with scary.
Speaker 9 (30:23):
The not so scary is the John Federan route, where
you work with the Republicans on issues that like a
huge percentage of Americans agree on, and then you pick
your battles on the things that the Republicans the country
has not come around to, and you find a path
forward because a lot of people for many years have
voted Democrat. When Upton Sinclair ran for governor of California
nineteen thirty four, after running several times as socialist, he
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ran as a Democrat, and he said, people like voting
for parties that the grandparents voted for. So that brand name,
although it's tarnished now, is still a household name that
everyone knows. So there's definitely a path to go this
Clinton nineties Democrat way, in the same way the Republican
Party was dead of at George W.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
Bush and look what ended up happening.
Speaker 9 (31:03):
The scary route is there's a lot of people in
the Democratic Party and the Democratic intellectual intellect intelligentsia who
want us to go back to a regimented COVID style regime.
They want this, they want the cage, and going in
that direction as they're going in England is a path
forward for at least some members of the Democratic Party
and some of the leaders in power. Instead of the
(31:25):
soft glove, let's get the iron fist.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I don't think you're wrong about that at all. It's
all they understand is force. Anyway, all right, Michael, I
have to let you go. Thank you, my brother, amount
of time. Come back soon, great pleasure. All right, Let's
do something we never do on the show ever. But
there was a Super Bowl yesterday and I realized you
probably watched it. Shoot, I watched it. I was at
(31:49):
a party. You know, I don't watch the NFL, but
I watched the game this was on. Let's talk a
little bit about that next. Before we talk about that,
let's talk about putting our money where our morals are.
Where do you have your cell phone? Who's your mobile
phone company? I have Puretalk, CEO of my company fought
in Vietnam two tours. When you get a hold of
(32:09):
someone at Puretalk, you'll be shocked because they'll be pleasant
and they speak English.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Why is that?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Because Puretalk hires Americans right here in America. No more
having to deal with click click and some godforsaken third
world dump. Now you get to talk to an American
switch to cell phone service. You don't sacrifice coverage on
the same five G network, and you'll pay less.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I pay half of what I was paying a T Mobile.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Half free phones right now with qualifying plans. You realize
that puretalk dot com slash jessetv.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Not a great day, I guess for Taylor Swift. Kind
of a crappy super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I don't know. Are they all going like this now
in the NFL?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Joining me now, Jake Crane, Blaine Crane, and David Cohne,
co hosts of Crane and Company on the Daily Wire,
which is highly, highly entertaining. Okay, so, Jake, I guess
I'll start with you. I haven't really watched the NFL
in a few years, which makes me that weird guy
at the party now who doesn't know who anyone is.
But I went to the Super Bowl party yesterday and
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a couple of things have apparently changed. There's a white
cornerback and Patrick Mahomes sucks.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
What happened in the last few years since I stopped
watching h.
Speaker 10 (33:45):
Yeah, well, you hopped in at a crazy time and typically, look,
most super Bowls don't go like that. You know, sometimes
hit the flip of a point, and we kind of
saw some of that in the College Ball playoff as well.
But I'm gonna be honest. Overall, the super Bowl wasn't great.
The halftime show was terrible, but they Boode Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
And gave Trump a standing ovation.
Speaker 10 (34:02):
Part of me feels like America's back a little bit,
so you can take some solid jesse into that.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Now.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
As far as the white Corner.
Speaker 10 (34:09):
I mean, we talked about it on Craning Company. I
mean it's to the point now where we're asking, could
this be our version of Jackie Robinson.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
I don't know, we're gonna find out.
Speaker 10 (34:17):
But yeah, the uh he's breaking barriers left and right,
and we call him Haru the Great White Ninja.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
All Right, I gotta I gotta know before we get
into the halftime show with the ads and everything else,
I gotta know what was on the menu fellas me personally,
I was going to a party, so I smoked my
world famous kso did for three hours on a smoker.
We all know what the hit of the party was.
It wasn't the chuck, It wasn't it was mine. What'd
(34:48):
you guys eat?
Speaker 11 (34:50):
We had a lot of pizza and wings. Do you
want to tell him what one fancas?
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah? So yeah.
Speaker 10 (34:56):
We live streamed the Super Bowl from a cigar bar
and sometimes and people in the audience will send us food.
Somebody decided to decided to send us a barbecue, pineapple
an anchovy pizza, which is awful, And to be honest
with you, I think it's how COVID starts.
Speaker 11 (35:10):
You might take issue with the pineapple, though, Yeah, I'm
fine with the anchovies on the barbecue.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
That's not as serious saying David. No one said I
love it. I love barbar yourself.
Speaker 11 (35:19):
When you don't put pineapple on there, though, that's where
I draw.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Did you eat any of the anchovies? I would have
taken them off? Yeah, but yeah, no, it's uh.
Speaker 10 (35:26):
Look, we're typically wings and pizza guys, but not with pineapple,
anchovies and barbecue sauce. That's uh, it's just Unamerican.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I want caeso, though, well, you got to smoke the
caso too, Fellas.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
It's not just enough to have queso.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
You have to take the time, put the high quality
cheeses like Velveta in there, and make sure you're really doing.
Speaker 10 (35:45):
Something classic Jesse, oh the finest.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Okay, Okay, So look, you guys are young. I'm old
as you can see.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I had to turn to my wife and ask who
is Kendrick Lamar? And I realized due to the look
on her face.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I now know that that was a stupid question.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
But apparently this guy's really popular. I have nothing against rap,
I'm not much of a rapman myself, but I couldn't
understand a single word that guy was saying. I hate
to stand like my father, but there was no melody,
there was.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Nothing to jam to. It was a dead for their
feet to bed deep.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I have no idea what happened during that time, absolute
straight garbage.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Imagine coming to New Orleans for the.
Speaker 11 (36:24):
Super Bowl, the home of Little Wayne, and yeah, it's
not a hip hop thing.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
You can't even get.
Speaker 11 (36:28):
Someone like Lil Wayne to come out there if you're
dead set on hip hop. Three solutions Jesse to fix
the halftime performance either one. Let Chris Stapleton do it
every single year, because if you already love for his
nap and boem and to win, if you don't get ready,
you're about to fall in love. Also, we don't need
the theatric I don't need dancers, don't need backup singers. Heck,
he didn't even need a guitar or really even a
microphone or a stage. Just put him on the fifty
(36:49):
yard line seeing broken Halo's acapella and get ready to
feel something for a few minutes. Second solution is a
different genre artist for everyone who wants to tune in.
We can figure out the technology. If you want to
listen to country music artists, you switch to the to
stop with the be hof. You want to listen to
Creed and Rock, you know, you can flip to the
one that has them as their halftime performer. Or third,
(37:11):
we just get rid of it all together, because elite
athletes running into each other for three minutes should be
entertaining enough.
Speaker 12 (37:16):
Well, can we can we keep the option of Chris
Stapleton and Creed one of the two, one of the two.
We can pick a different one every year.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
If you want to do that.
Speaker 12 (37:23):
But the thing about Kendrick Lamar is he has great songs.
He's a good artist. I mean, go back through his time.
The amount of hits this guy has is absolutely ridiculous
in you just couldn't understand what he's saying. Is somend
like Joe Biden on a debate stage And I don't
even know if you had subtiles up there, they could
have even done it. So at some point Kendrick has
good songs him and the Drake Beef's kind of weird.
I'll never get it. I don't want to get it.
But can we at least understand what you're saying?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, Now, look, I really haven't enjoyed a halftime show
since Janet Jackson. But that's another story entirely. Let's changed
the subject to.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Talk about the.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Change the subject and talk about Uh. One thing I
did notice, and I don't know whether this is the
thing to stop watching the freaking NFL.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
There was a lot of God talking and I loved it.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Jalen Hurt's talking about it, Philly's head coach, I don't know,
Nick something talking about it.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
It seemed like a lot of players were more.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Focused on values, on God, on good things. Is this
I realized that's always been present in sports. But I
watched the post game at the party I was at.
It seemed to be a It seemed to be ramped
up from what I remember.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Is it.
Speaker 10 (38:26):
Yeah, we're seeing it a lot more and it's great.
I just wish the NFL marketing would get behind it,
because if you look at the way the NFL still
markets itself from a DEI structure, from a left wing structure,
from the pride, you know, element of this.
Speaker 12 (38:40):
The NFL marketing.
Speaker 10 (38:41):
The only reason they haven't gone the way the NBA
is because we.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Love football so much.
Speaker 10 (38:45):
If it was basketball, they'd be going the way of
the NBA. But it's so nice to see guys and listen,
believe in what you want to believe.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
I'm all for that.
Speaker 10 (38:51):
But having the ability to not have the fear of
being able to go out and say it, I think
is truly American. And you're kind of seeing a coalescing
of that. And I think, you know, you're seeing the
amount of guys NFL and professional athletes that are coming
out and really saying they like Trump. And I think
most guys in the NFL voted for him, But I'm
all for a free speech, freedom of religion and being
able to talk about it. But we're seeing this all
(39:12):
over sports, Jesse. It's not just the NFL. You look
at college basketball, you look at college football. It's really
starting to become normal again. And I'm really excited. They
took in racism out of the zone.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
No, we beat it out. We're no longer racist. No,
we beat racism. They took it out.
Speaker 11 (39:27):
Also, Nick Something is a heck of a head coach.
He really did it is it is. In many ways,
I felt like we were back to my childhood. I mean, one,
the sitting president showed up and.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
People cheered like that was great, like you first time ever.
Speaker 11 (39:40):
But that's something that when we were growing up, if
a sitting president showed up, no matter what party cheered.
Second of all, the game wasn't close. Most of the
games growing up were most of the Super Bowls when
I was growing up, they weren't really close games.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
And then, third of all, some of the commercials were funny.
Some of them were funny, which.
Speaker 11 (39:55):
They've set the bar solo the past couple of years
with no humor whatsoever. When we saw two or three
that made me laugh. I said, maybe we are running back.
We're Super Bowl of all time.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Though right overall, I've seen some bad ones. Man, I'm
alive as bad as bad. Why wasn't it good?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I hate to ask the question like the non sports
guy now, which apparently that's what I've become, which is
really really embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
I'm basically a woman, but I.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Thought the Kansas City Chiefs were supposed to be good.
I walk into the party and all my bodies are like,
it's going to be a juggernaut game. They've each lost
like one or two games, So why did the game suck?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (40:30):
Well, you know, Jesse, last year, you probably could have
got away with saying you're a woman. I think it's
starting to change now with kind of the news as
far as the as far as the game goes, it
was surprising to us because you didn't think it was
going to be a blowout either way. I wasn't going
to be shocked at the Eagles won, but it was
such a dominating performance at the line of scrimmage upfront,
and that's where the game is won and lost in football,
(40:51):
all the way from the NFL to Friday Night Tikes
all the way through it. The Eagles didn't have to
bring extra guys to add pressure. They rush for all nights.
I don't think they live once when you look back
at it. The Chiefs couldn't run the ball the Eagles
could take on wasn't amazing, but they got enough to
keep themselves balanced. It was just an overwhelming tsunami of
dominance at the line of scrimmage where the game is
(41:12):
truly went and lost, and then it started to snowball
on the Chiefs and they just ran out of time.
I'm gonna be honest with you, though, I think you
could have played sixteen quarters and the Chiefs aren't coming
back to that game.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
No, they were not coming back. That was a beating
from the get go. All right, let's switch this up
really quickly. Sports betting, I have no I have nothing
against it whatsoever. I've done it on a smaller scale,
you know, five bucks on the game with a buddy, but.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
It's huge now.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
The industry itself is enormous, the draft kings, the advertising.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Where do you guys fall on sports betting? You won
five bucks, didn't you? Yeah?
Speaker 12 (41:48):
I mean you got a couple of zeros that actually
six grand after the Super Bowl, which is a win
for me. I think sports betting is only going to
get bigger and bigger. It's to the point now where
you don't even have to like the sport to watch it.
If you bet on it, you'll watch it. I mean,
I watched underwater ping pong last night because I had
fifteen dollars on it. It was a heck of a match.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
It was a heck of match. The Chinese ended up winning.
That's a surprise there.
Speaker 12 (42:07):
Betting is only going to get bigger, I mean more.
You got to think you might have DraftKings, you might
have all these big sports book but there's a lot
of sports books under them, and it's only going to
expand because people want to bet money even if they
don't like the sport. Hell, I went to a hockey
game the other day. I don't even like watching hockey,
but I bet on it end up winning five hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Best believe I'll go back.
Speaker 10 (42:27):
Well, Jesse, we bring this point up all the time.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Here's what I don't understand.
Speaker 10 (42:31):
Like I'll give you there's certain states in the South
that have a lottery, but they don't allow sports betting.
If you can somehow sit down and hold my hand
like the five year old and explain to me.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
How the lottery is not bad, but.
Speaker 10 (42:44):
Sports betting is bad. I would really love to hear that.
And if you believe that there's some beachfront property in
Kansas that I've got a great deal onto a buddy
of mine that we split the profits on, it just
shocks me that those two things can can one can
exist and one cannot exist in sad.
Speaker 11 (43:00):
And like everything else in life, the way you engage
with it in moderation, that really is the key to it.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah, bet responsible, Yeah, obviously you don't want to go
blowing the whole family fortune there, all right, Jake, tell
me about this non woke sports show.
Speaker 10 (43:16):
Yeah, man, Look again, if you're a sports fan out
there and you grew up kind of the era we did,
like this wasn't even a conversation like the old school
sports centers, you know, before Keith Olberman, you know, started
acting like they need to send him to Shutter Island.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
It's really trying to.
Speaker 10 (43:29):
Give people the sports show that they grew up with,
because look, there's culture and our times where culture in
sports touch each other and we hit these things we
talk about nil obviously the men and women's sports thing.
We did a movie Ladyballers for the Daily Wire on
it's such a crazy thing. But when we do the
sports show, we want to give you something that.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Is common sense.
Speaker 6 (43:47):
Right.
Speaker 12 (43:47):
You hear this all the time.
Speaker 10 (43:48):
Now common sense is back in play where it's great
sports analysis. We're going to tell you our opinion when
it touches culture, and a lot of times it's going
to be common sense and we're not afraid to say things.
But it's kind of going back in the timeche back
to when we grew up where you want sports to
get away from all the craziness, right where the craziness
is just the vichery all through the fans, not everybody
(44:09):
being divided because of what they look like. And to me,
that's the best part about sports is the fastball doesn't
care if you're Hispanic or Asian or white. The football
doesn't care if you're straight, gay or whatever. We're just
trying to give people that avenue back like we grew
up and what helped.
Speaker 12 (44:23):
Us ball in love us.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Fellas, appreciate you very much. We need a sports show
like that.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Gosh, I missed the old Sports Center anyway, We're not done.
Speaker 12 (44:33):
Something smoke caeso though, I'll hook you guys up with
the recipe.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Yes, we're not done lighting the moody.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Thanks, all right, it is time to lighten the mood.
And every now and then you get just a little
segment on CNN that puts a huge smile on your face.
Sit back and relax and watch these hags on CNN
(45:04):
have a conversation about an employee of Elon Musk who
went by the online name big Balls.
Speaker 13 (45:13):
So this is a nineteen year old high school graduate
who has used the unfortunate nickname big Balls online, so
that would be one way that we could refer to him.
He is now working at Musk's behest inside Doge and
we looked into his background and so we found, you know,
several notable things erin, one of which is that this
(45:34):
individual has founded multiple companies, including one with another unfortunate name,
Tesla dot SEXYLLC, which he established in twenty twenty one,
he would have been around sixteen years old. Now this
LLC controls dozens of web domains.
Speaker 14 (45:49):
So, Kara, you know you hear this, and you have
known Elon Musk for years. So now you look at
these young men who are now in data and in
the private information about maybe hundreds of millions of American
citizens as young as nineteen. The big balls here that
Katy's talking about, most of them are in their early twenties.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
There's an exception.
Speaker 14 (46:07):
I'm going to get you in a minute. I'm curious, though, Kara,
how well does even Musk know these young matt do
you think?
Speaker 15 (46:14):
I have no idea. I think there is no betting whatsoever.
As you can see that's taking place. It took Katie
and the really great team. Wired has done an astonishing
job here. You know, I could make a joke. That's
probably why he was hiring for all this ridiculous nonsense
and other nefarious things. But you know, there's an expression
in technology. It's a feature, not a bug.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
All right, I'll suitable
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