February 18, 2025 • 44 mins
Is the conflict between Russia and Ukraine coming to an end? Jesse Kelly dives into that with Lee Smith on this edition of I'm Right, but not before diving into criminalization of free speech in European countries. Jesse has A LOT to say on that and how it relates to America. Speaking of which, Natalie Winters has a handful of receipts exposing Mark Zuckerberg's role in censoring Americans. She joins Jesse Kelly with a full report. Plus, a conversation about DOGE and America's culture with Sara Gonzales.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Let's talk about freedom, censorship, NATO. Let's talk to Natalie
Winters tonight, Sarah Gonzalez, Lee Smith, what a Monday coming
up on I'm right, okay, let's have a discussion about
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freedom before we get to a massive, massive show. And
along those lines of freedom, let's talk about the fact
that the Anti Communist Manifesto was available on paperback now
at Jesse kellybook dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Stop. I had to do that.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I had to do it. But actually, along those lines,
this is one of the things that's written in that
wonderful book. Because we're about to talk about freedom, freedom
of speech, Communism controls, slavery, NATO, all those spicy things. Quote.
By classifying words as correct or incorrect, the communist is
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limiting the scope of acceptable speech. If he doesn't want
you to say something, he will forbid you from using
the words needed to say it. He's building walls around
you and boxing you in.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Now, before we get to Germany.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
And NATO and slavery and things like that, I just
think it's important to go back to step one, right,
go back to the basics, if you will, because we
all need that from time to time.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I need it, you need it.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I understand you're a political person.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
That's why you're here watching.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I'm right on the first so you're hyper informed and
you get the Constitution and freedom and history.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I understand that you know these things, but even a.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Professional boxer has to go back and look at work
on his footwork from time to time. The basics Freedom,
What does that mean? Why is it even important? We
love to use the word I do. I'm a red
blooded American. You do my end of the free, freedom, free, free, free,
But what does it mean? It doesn't actually mean the
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things that some of the things even that I love
that you may love tanks and planes and bombs. Freedom
doesn't mean that the flag. That's not freedom. What does
freedom mean? Freedom that has real, genuine meaning means the
government can't control you. It's freedom from government control.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
That is everything. It's not a small thing.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Because I've lived forty three years and I've only lived
in a relatively free country.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
We'll get to that in a minute.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I take it for granted. I admit I'm ashamed that
I do, but I take it for granted. It's all
I've ever known. It's freedom. But here in the United
States of America, land of the free, shining city on
I do.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
We'll get back to that in a second. Two.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
What does that mean? That means here in this country,
Unlike most countries historically, honestly almost all of them historically,
in this country, I can say things and the government
can not arrest me for those things, can't apprehend me,
can't stop me from doing so. Now, we love that,
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We love that when we talk about popular things. If
I was to sit here on I'm right and tell
you I love puppies, you would never want the government
arresting me for that. I love Jesus the government. You
would never want the government coming down on me for that.
But what if I said things that were ugly, nasty.
I love Hitler, I hate Jews, I hate Christians, I
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hate white people, I hate black people, I hate pick
the horrible thing you could say, I hate puppies. You know,
real genuine freedom means you may hate me for saying
those things, and I would you probably, I would hope
you would dislike me if I say those things, but
you wouldn't want the government to stop me. That's real freedom.
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Can the government stop you from saying things? Owning property,
having weapons? Can the government stop you from doing so,
and governments have always Why is it so rare here
because the governments have always wanted to stop people from
doing so. If I'm so desired right now, I could,
right now, on camera say emphatically that I hate Donald
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Trump's guts, and I think he's ugly, and Jade Vance
is stupid, and I despise all these people.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And I don't feel that way.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
But if I did feel that way, I have the
freedom to say it, and nobody can stop me from
saying it. Try insulting the king in most countries historically,
See how that goes for you. It's everything that we
have that freedom here, That's what it means. But over time,
I'm part of the reason you and I have to
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go back to the basics. Over time we lose sight
of that. And as we lose sight of that, as
we take it for granted, as I take it for granted,
evil tyrants here domestically in around the globe have taken
advantage of it because government, back to what we were saying,
has always wanted to control your speech, control your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
As I laid out in the book, I've always wanted.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That because, let's be honest, if you can strip the
morality of somebody. If you take morality away from it,
act like there is no such thing as a morality.
Isn't a slave always better than an employee? Again, set
aside your moral compass. If I have no moral compass
at all, And let's say I need five producers for
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the show, why would I want employees I have to pay,
I have to consider their feelings.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I have to do that.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Why wouldn't I just want slaves do this, don't do that,
work twenty four hours a day. I don't care, work
till you die. Isn't that more beneficial to me? Well?
That's how governments see us, and so freedom America being
the shining city on a hill means we have to
take strong stances and have historically against tyranny, not just
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domestically but around the globe. Did you see this sixty
minutes clip on what is happening in Germany?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Inside six armed officers search disuspects home, then seized his
left top and cell phone. Prosecutors say those electronics may
have been used to commit a crime, the crime posting
a racist cartoon online. More than fifty similar raids played out,
part of what prosecutors say is a coordinated effort to
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curb online hate speech in Germany. Is it a crime
to insult somebody in public?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yes, yes, and it's a.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Crime to insult them online as well.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yes. The fine could be even higher if you insign
someone in the Internet.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Why because in Internet it stays there.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
If somebody posts something that's not true and then somebody
else reposts it or likes it, are they committing a.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Crime And the case of reposting it as a crime
as well, because the reader contstinguished whether you just invented
this or just reposted it.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
That's the same for us. And that brings me to
what JD Advance set overseas. I'll get to us domestically
here in a few I want to focus on something incredible,
amazing that happened last week, something we already.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Discussed a little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
But there's a lot to be excited about during the
first month of Donald Trump's presidency. I admit that I'm
happy about the deportations, the cleaning out of the government
things and that, things like that, But I don't know
that there's anything that makes me as excited and hopeful
for the future. I guess I'll put it that way.
As the speech JD. Vance gave in front of the
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European Union, and let me explain why before I play
a little excerpt of it. It excites me because that
shining city on a hill. Reagan described America as that
that shining city on a hill. That means something too.
It's more than just a wonderful saying a wonderful quote
we use. That means the United States of America has
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a role, in my mind, has a duty to be
a shining city on a hill for the rest of
the world. And oftentimes that means being forceful, being vocal
when we see freedoms being smashed, not just in these
traditional dictatorships we love to rant about all the time,
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not just in North Korea as the shining city on
a hill, as the land of the free. When we
see even our allies, if we're going to put it
that way, allies in Europe smashing freedoms, smashing the most
critical freedoms, we have a duty and obligation to stand
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in front of them and speak boldly like this. I
don't know that I've ever heard a politician say something
I found so inspiring.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
I believe the dismissing people, dismissing their concerns or worse yet,
shutting down media, shutting down elections, were shutting people out
of the political process for texts nothing. In fact, it
is the most surefire way to destroy democracy. And speaking
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up and expressing opinions isn't election interference, even when people
express views outside your own country, and even when those
people are very influential. And trust me, I say this
with all humor. If American democracy can survive ten years
of Thunberg scolding you guys can survive a few months
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of Elon Musk, But what German democracy, What no democracy, American,
German or European will survive, is telling millions of voters
that their thoughts and concerns, their aspirations they're pleased for relief,
are invalid or unworthy of even being considered.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
It means so much to me to watch us lead again,
because I love my country so much. I want us
to do more than just embrace freedom domestically. We'll get
that in just one second here. I want us to
be that shining city on a hill. I view that
as being our role to uplift the entire planet, not
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just but bombs and bullets, as we've done many times before,
but by going abroad and sometimes even in the faces
of our friends telling them you are wrong and you
are doing wrong, and you are doing your people wrong
and you should change.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
This is America speaking. It inspires me and I love it.
And good for jd.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Vance and good for Trump for let him do it.
Now that brings me to domestically as we wrap this
up here, I know you're aware of this, but don't
think for a single solitary second that we are beyond
or above that here. In fact, we just experienced four
years of it here, and had God forbid Kamala Harris
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won that election, we would be in the middle of
another four years where it would have gotten worse and
worse and worse and worse as the evil tyrants domestically
unleash their hounds on us. Remember, just remember this little tidbit.
If you remember nothing else, remember that the Federal Bureau
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of Investigation coordinated with Facebook to censor a damaging story
they didn't like so Donald.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Trump could lose his re election bid. Tyranny is a
breath away here.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
The FBI, I think, basically came to us some folks
on our team. It was like, hey, just so you know,
like you should be on high alert. There was we
thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in
the twenty sixteen election. We have un notice that basically
there's about to be some kind of dump of that's
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similar to that. So just be vigilant.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
We are a breath away. Keep voting Democrat.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
We will see what's happening in Germany and even worse here.
And to be frank, we've already seen similar things happen here.
We must be ever vigilant, and we must be that
shining city on a hill. All that may have made
you uncomfortable, but I am right. Speaking of Mark Zuckerberg,
Natalie Winters has, as she often does, some really outstanding
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reporting about Mark Suckerberg. What's behind this whole transition he's making.
We'll talk to Natalie in just a moment. Before we
talked to her, I hope you got some good sleep
this weekend. I knocked out Aday, Friday night, a Saturday night,
a Sunday night sleep and like a little bitty baby.
And Saturday, I'd had too much caffeine. I was running
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around and it just got kind of hooked on afternoon coffee.
So I was worried. I wouldn't be able to sleep.
Guess what I did. What made myself a cup of
hot chocolate before a bit. But it wasn't normal hot chocolate,
you see, it was empowder from being You'd never know it.
It was delicious cinnamon hot chocolate, but it had melatonin
and things like that. And it sits on a little
cup of it out like a light nine ten hours.
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Woke up Sunday, ready to go to church. Take it
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I have trust issues. I admit that I'm old and
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cynical and mean, and so when I see filthy communists
who've done everything they can to fund and organize communism
in this country, suddenly have a magical awakening. The second
Donald Trump gets elected and has some great approval numbers,
you can count me as skeptical. And there's nobody who's
spent more money to fund American communism than Mark Zuckerberg.
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And yet Mark Zuckerberg now got his bro they're all
grown out, and he's hanging with the UFC.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
He's meeting with Trump down.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And mar Lagoo, one of the boys I don'm not
buying any of it, and I wonder if Natalie is
joining me. Now, co host of The war Room, investigative reporter,
the Wonderful Natalie Winters joins us. Natalie, you can count
me out on the whole Zuckerberg.
Speaker 8 (14:19):
Thing, Well, I will join you, being definitely counted out
on the idea that Mark Zuckerberg is maga's I guess
latest convert. I think I've probably seen transgender operations and
surgeries that are more convincing than the shtick he's got
going on to sort of contextualize this story, because I
think telling it sort of through an anecdote is very
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telling of the mindset over there in Zuckerberg world. A
few days ago, I had put on a Twitter thread
linking a group that he had donated to sort of
by one entity removed, called the Silicon Valley Community Foundation,
which was in turn funding a lot of these groups
that are bank rolling and behind the lawsuits that are
actively sabotaging and holding up President Trump's agenda in court.
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The meta people melted down. They actually ran to the
New York Times for cover, believe it or not, and
a piece smearing me saying that I was a right
wing influencer, not once referring to me as the host
of Deep and k Bannon's Warm, So very obviously a
press release right designed to sort of smear the story,
and their defense was, well, yes, we gave money to
this organization and we don't know what they did with it,
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so don't hold us accountable. How's that for just absolute
lack of courage and anything more morality or ethically based.
But all that aside. I then decided to double down
on my research and actually found over a dozen organizations,
including but not limited to, those that are actively a
suing President Trump and court b organizing protesters, demonstrators, people
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to call their lawmakers against the President Trump, the America
First agenda, particularly when it comes to mass deportations, all
the petitions, the phone banking. You know how these resistance
type democrats work. All of these organizations having been funded
by Mark Zuckerberg or his organizations that he runs himself.
So the idea that Mark Zuckerberg is mister maga is
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completely bogus. And instead of running to The New York
Times and demeaning myself and my show, he should be
condemning these organizations withdrawing funds, and if he really cares
about American sovereignty, he should be exposing the activities, the
illegal activities of these organizations, which include dosing ice raids
and ice agents.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I'm glad you actually brought up a few points there,
but let's focus on this one. Could you tell me
Natal leakause I know you're all over this stuff like
white on Rice. Has Mark Zuckerberg made any public statements
about his intention to withdraw these funds, stop giving these funds?
Do we have do we have anything tangible beyond the
MAGA bros. Sayings we're hearing out of Zuckerberg that show
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he's renounced is maoist ways No, absolutely not.
Speaker 8 (16:54):
And I think if you sort of draw this story,
I'll the way back to its beginning.
Speaker 9 (16:58):
Right.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
He put out what was of one point five when
you take the spacing into account, was probably like a
half of a page letter saying, hey, I'm sorry for
what we did with the twenty twenty election. Our evidence
suggests that we actually didn't have an impact. Conveniently, no
footnotes were given, no evidence to prove that. But I
put the blame on weak congressional Republicans who treated that
letter as if it was some huge, massive victory. I
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believe they actually referred to it as quote a big win.
But what they've been doing in the meantime since I
broke that original story before we put out the larger
thread showing the over dozen, like I said, organizations that
are actively opposing President Donald Trump, while the chan Zuckerberg
initiatives their website where they itemize and list the thousands
of grants that they've doled out as you are alluding
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to to overwhelmingly left wing, far left at that organizations. Well,
curiously enough, the day before I broke that original story,
they listed over five thousand grants on their website dating
back to I believe twenty eighteen. Now, all of a sudden,
there's only six hundred grants listed, and they announced that
they have reformulated the grant portion of their website where
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they are only listing grants from twenty twenty four onward.
In other words, the entire twenty twenty election ring inclusion
hopes totally gone. And all these far left open borders
groups now suddenly I guess you didn't fund them because
they're not there.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Ah, you know, just a couple of clicks and a
delete button and all those sins are washed away.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
How about that, Natalie.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
These guys who are having these converts over here, I
want you to talk a little bit more if you
wouldn't mind, on how their organizations work, because this gets
confusing for normal people who don't do the work you
do when it comes to investigative journalism, because it does
get confusing.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
They all fund.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
This group, but the group itself doesn't actually fund the
filthy communism. That group starts another group, which starts another group,
and that just come up with a million different cutouts
to make themselves look clean. Can you give us a
communist funding one oh, one little thing here from me, please?
Speaker 8 (19:01):
Well, it's all by design. I'd sort of put it
through the same paradigm as a like Hunter Biden money
laundering scheme, right where they had all the different cutout
the shell companies and this LLC and this person being
brought in to do something. This all is sort of
the dark money network. And I don't think it can
be underscored enough. How these big tech guys, the sort
of Silicone Valley based organizations really have created these sort
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of bedrock round zero for so much of this dark
money apparatus. I would say, the other half being supplemented
by sort of like the George Soros would sort of
euphemize themselves as the like, you know, pro democracy cohort.
But how it works is they pull I mean, you're
with Zuckerberg, you're talking several billion dollars, not even talking
just a couple hundred million. But they they'll pull it,
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they'll park it. And typically these California based foundations where
the sort of tax laws and just the financial disclosures
are extremely vague, so you can't really even tell who
exactly they're funding. It's not like I can on the website.
Like put it this way, the chant Zuckerberg Initiative was
actually very unique to have even had a grant's portion
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listed on their website. The loopholes are created intentionally so
you can dole out money to whoever you want and
you basically can't tell. It's I guess the upside of
the you know, tax exempt status for all these five
oh one c three organizations, which I would advocate to
completely strip the idea that these entities are non political.
I don't think there is anything more political then, I
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don't know, orchestrating an invasion of the United States of America.
But through these sort of shell companies, they have first
of all, this like layer of defense, this kind of
for lack of a better term, Chinese wall, where they
can say, well, we didn't directly give them money. But
it's also just more broadly too. They're very euphemistic and
whitewashing and sort of describing their agendas. It's sort of
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like the pro democracy brigade, right, the Twitter brigade of
blue check democracy defenders. They're very very you know, grand
standing and the ideologies that they're pushing, but in reality
they're pushing for the complete overtaking of the United States,
the complete dissolution of sovereignty.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Right.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
Global government might sound nice in un HR woman speak,
but in reality it's a complete deprivation of your civil rights,
your civil liberties. And I don't think that you want
people who not only are documented pathological liars like we
saw with Mark Zuckerberg, but people who lack courage and
are only interested in their own self advancement frankly, their
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own financial interest being the people who sit atop that
global government superstructure. But that's what they want right now.
I'm all for big tents, except when the tent. The
people you're inviting into the tent are actively trying to
burn down that tent and then take it over or
retrofit it so they get to co op the MAGA movement.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Chinese Wall is actually so incredibly appropriate that I'm going
to now steal that and use that for my own purposes,
going on intellectual property.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
That very ccview.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
That's right. I'm going to give you no credit whatsoever.
Natalie Winter's co host of the War Room. Natalie, thank you, man,
I appreciate it. That's really good Chinese Wall. I'm stealing it.
It's mine now, speaking of dirty communists, where do you
have your cell phone service? Who do you pay every month?
(22:23):
You get a receipt every month, don't you? Maybe you
get it by email, maybe it's your text message you
Verizon bill has been paid.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
You know, Verizon hates you.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
You know when we talk about stealing elections and all
this corporate funding, Verizon at and TT Mobile, they take
your money and they give it to the most disgusting
causes you could possibly imagine. We fund our own destruction
here in this country, but we don't have to. When
it comes to your cell service, there's pure talk, pure
Talk the patriotic cell phone company. You're not giving up
(22:56):
service and don't worry about dropping calls. They're on the
same five G network. I pay half of what I
was paying at AT and T, and I pay a
company that cares about veterans America. Their CEO walk the
jungles of Vietnam for this country. That's my cell phone company.
I want to switch Puretalk dot com slash JESSETV.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
We'll be back.
Speaker 10 (23:26):
Well, he was standing in a country where free speech
was weaponized to conduct a genocide, and he met with
the head of a political party that has far right
views and some historic ties to extreme groups. The context
of that was changing the tone of it. And you
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know that that the censorship.
Speaker 11 (23:51):
Disagree with you specifically about the right. Now I have
to disagree with you. The free speech was not used
to conduct a genocide. The genocide was conducted by an
authoritarian Nazi regime that happened to also be genocidal because
they hated Jews, and they hated minorities, and they hated
those that they had a list of people they hated,
but primarily the Jews. There was no free speech in
Nazi Germany. There was none. There was also no opposition
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in Nazi Germany. They were a sole and only party
that governed that country. So that's not an accurate reflection
of history.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
It's I don't know whether it's inspiring to me or disheartening,
how stupid, slash programmed our enemies aren't joining me. Now,
my friend Sarah Gonzalez, host of Unfiltered on BLAZDB.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
It's wonderful show, I might point out.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
And now VP of Texas Family Project, we'll talk to
Sarah about women in leadership in a moment before we
get to that. Sarah the dirty communist Margaret Brennan, Yes,
she got scolded by Marco Rubio. But these people really
are just genuinely programmed, aren't they. Just everything to the
right of them is a Nazi.
Speaker 12 (24:56):
Yes, I mean, you watch her try to st ruggle
to complete a coherent sentence as she's talking to Marco
Rubio because like you can see the two brain cells
that she has barely running together to create any sort
of thought. I mean, it's incredible these people go through
four years presumably of journalism school, put themselves how many
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thousands of dollars in debt and come out this dumb.
It's incredible to see.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Uh, Sarah, do you feel like I know, I feel
like this right now, like we are winning and I
don't just mean, you know, the Trump presidency and cleaning
out some of the government. It feels global. Maybe it's
a social media thing. I don't know, but it feels
as if the authoritarian left is getting slapped around quite
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a bit right now. I'm not saying they're defeated, but
it feels like they are searching for answers.
Speaker 12 (25:52):
I would one hundred percent agree with you, And I
think that this all culminated. It began with Donald Trump
winning the election, because you know, when you're listening to
the mainstream media, the Margaret Brennan's of the world, all
of these people who blowhards, who go on TV and
they wear a nice suit and tie, so you think
that they know what they're talking about, and then they
proceed to lie to not just the American public, but
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the world. And so I think that Donald Trump's election
was really a wake up call, not just to America
but to the world that you cannot continue to lie
to your people. You cannot continue to lie to your citizens,
you cannot continue to not protect them, like what is
going on in the UK with all of these you know,
terrorists rising up and taking to the streets. You can't
continue to do that to a nation, to a people.
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You can only do it for so long before they
stand up, they rise up and they say no more.
And so I think that we're going to see more
of this. I think that Donald Trump's election and victory
and what he has done since he's been into office,
quite honestly, has been inspiring to the rest of the
world to see.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, no, I don't disagree. But in case people think
I'm just getting too hopeful, we have so much work
to do. As I've explained your I'd be about to
clean out in the federal government. You have a lot
of words state wise and locally to do, even even
in your red state, which brings us to this video
courtesy of Sarah Gonzalez. This is from a Cathedral of
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Hope Church, allegedly in Dallas, Texas. Here it was, by
the way, and he's y'all voted for Trump.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Please don't tell.
Speaker 13 (27:21):
Us, no, don't tell us, or do and do you'll sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Start he voted for Trump?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Okay, because I will.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
I'll be down ofton like a year.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
And a half ago with some other drag us. You know,
it's fine, Greg Abbott, but he just he wouldn't stand
up invite me. And I'll be honest, I think the
easiest thing that we can.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
Do with the money that we raised is just take
away in those wheelchair rants and not lett him have.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Access in the floor.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Wow, lovely, Sarah, What did I just watch?
Speaker 12 (28:16):
What you just watched, Jesse was a benefit. It was
a fundraiser, a drag brunch fundraiser for the Cathedral of
Hope Church. And this was, by the way, I'd like
to point out, this was taking place yesterday on Sunday
after their church service in which they dedicated the entire
service to drag queens. And they brought up the Sisters
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of Perpetual Indulgence. Yes, the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, of course,
the organization that has had multiple people convicted on things
like child pornography and masturbation in front of you know,
the public. And so you had the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence,
the Dallas Bears, Okay, And at one point there was
I'm not kidding, a man in a pup mask and
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pup gear crawling around on all fours on the floor
while the congregation clapped for all of them. And this
was all led by a drag king preacher, a woman
with a sharpie beard, talking about how important it was
that everyone know how and why she does drag. I mean,
the whole thing was a total abomination. It was downright evil.
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I got to tell you that was a church of something,
but certainly not Christ.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I feel like I need like the longest, hottest shower
in the world right now.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I'm so freaking grossed out.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Sarah, tell me about this Texas Family Project. I see
you're the Vice president. What's going on there?
Speaker 12 (29:41):
Yeah, just you can just call me Madam Vice President Jesse.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
No, I'm kidding so so.
Speaker 12 (29:48):
Texas Family Project is, this is what we're doing here
in the state of Texas. I already had teamed up
with them for our Defend our Kids Texas project, and
this one I just took kind of a further leap
into making being sure that we strengthen families here in
the state of Texas, whether it be protecting children from
what you just saw right there, or pornographic literature in
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school libraries, and you know, just protecting children, protecting families
at the state level, because, as you pointed out, Jesse,
I think a lot of people take for granted that
they live in the state of Texas and they think, oh,
we're read and so nothing bad can happen to us.
But there are really egregious things happening here in the
state of Texas to Texas children. School choice is another thing,
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you know, and so we are really leaning hard into
making sure that Texas children are not just protected, but
they have they're equipped with what they need in order
to you know, survive. And so that is what we
are doing. And this is just some of the work
that we are doing here in the state of Texas,
if nothing else than to expose the demons for who
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they really are.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Can people help with this kind of thing, Sarah, because
this is the exact kind of thing people need to
do everywhere, not just in Texas. But I'm glad you're
doing it here. Your people have to get involved. You
can't just sit back and watch Trump and jd Van
slap the communists around.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
How do people get involved?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Can they get involved?
Speaker 12 (31:08):
Yeah, of course they can. So I mean we started
this just from this was a total grassroots thing in
which I literally was scouring for all of the abominations
that we put out, the drag show for the Drag
Queen Story Hour, the drag Show for kids, all.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Of these things.
Speaker 12 (31:24):
It's all accessible to you when you go to you know,
event websites and you try to search for these things.
Show up, film it, expose it, get it to me.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I'll help you blow it up.
Speaker 12 (31:34):
There are plenty of people who are we want to
work together with these people to make sure to blow
these things up, to expose the depravities that are going
on in whatever state you're in. So you know, if
they're in Texas and they want to help, they can
go to Texas Family Project dot com and either sign
up to get involved or I mean, we'll take your
donations as well, because this all takes money. And I
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think that so often conservatives they think to themselves, well,
I just want to you know, live and let live.
I'm just gonna keep my family and take care of
my family and not worry about the rest of it.
And meanwhile, this is what culture has turned into, even
in a red state. So wake up, people, get involved locally.
It takes so little of your time to just shine
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the light on the darkness.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yeah, you cannot live and let live your way out
of communism?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
All right.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Finally, speaking of blowing things up, let's talk about Ukraine.
I saw Zelensky got a standing ovation from senators here.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
He was.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
You look good, hang in there, you make your lash these.
I did see John Cornyn, senator from the red state
of Texas there get in the vapors as he met Zelensky.
He's also got a primary coming next year, Sarah, Is
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this finally the year we removed that human barnacle from
the Senate?
Speaker 12 (33:05):
I gotta tell you, if it's not twenty twenty six,
then I just we're done here, right. I don't even
know what we're doing here, because the American people are
sick to death of this America Last Agenda, where people
like John Cornyn and Lindsey Graham are so concerned with
matters that have nothing to do with us and not
concerned at all with the American people. And if we
can't get something like this right here in the state
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of Texas, I again, I really don't know what we're
doing here. I am trying to encourage our Texas Attorney
General Ken Paxton to maybe throw his name into the ring.
I think that he would be a really good primary
opponent of John Cornyn. But I mean, look, when you're
talking about someone as bottom of the barrel as John Cornyn,
if we can't find someone, someone, anyone to threaten his candidacy,
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that does not speak well for the state of Texas.
I really think this is going to be the time
America is fully ready to go all full, full out
America first. You saw that with the election. You see
that with the polling that's come out, since every single
measure that Donald Trump has taken to lean more into
putting America first, the American people are very happy about.
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So I can't imagine that John Cornyn, as much as
he tries to cozy up to Donald Trump now because
he knows it's politically advantageous to him, I don't think.
I don't think Texans are going to put up.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
With it anymore. Amen, Sarah, come back soon as always.
Thank you man. All Right, I'm not done. Lee Smith
is going to join us.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
We'll actually talk a little bit about this Ukraine stuff,
what's going on there. Before we get to Lee Smith,
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Speaker 2 (35:36):
Terms and conditions apply. Will be bad.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Peace. Apparently it's beginning on the way. I was about
to say on the way, but I guess we don't
know yet.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
As we speak.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Americans Russians their meeting in Saudi Arabia. I bet that's
hot and miserable to discuss the peace process finally ending
this butchery in Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Let's see how this is gonna go.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Joining me now, Lee Smith, author of the book Disappearing
the President, to be frank, you should really read everything
Lee Smith writes. Every time he puts out a column,
you should be reading it. Joining me now, is Lee Lee?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Okay? Peace process?
Speaker 1 (36:18):
First? Why isn't Zelensky there? How's this work? You're the
one with all the experience with all this crap.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
How's this work?
Speaker 9 (36:25):
Well? I think one of the important things is to
figure out what the US Russia you know, what US
Russia agreements will look like. I mean, you can't have
everyone sitting at the table at the same time, because
that will lead to chaos. And we've seen we've seen
what that looks like with the Middle East peace process,
where you have everyone sitting at the same table and
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by the end they're all throwing.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Jello at each other or worse.
Speaker 9 (36:49):
So I think there's probably a pretty good way to
start figure out, you know. I mean, Donald Trump has
been I don't think he's been speaking all the time
with Putin and Zelenski, but he's certainly been signaling through
true truth, social and other comments he's made. So I
think this is I think this is a good way
to start.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Okay, let's flip to the other side. Let's assume that
they're going to start their beginning in Saudi Arabia, works
something out. Soelenski's all over meet the press saying things
like this, have you.
Speaker 10 (37:22):
Been given any assurances that Ukraine will have an equal
seat at the negotiating table?
Speaker 4 (37:30):
So I will never accept any decisions between the United
States and Russia about Ukraine, never an hour, people, never
an our adults and children and everybody. It's gonna be shown,
this is the war in Ukraine against us, and.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
These our human losses.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Thankful for all the support, unity between USA in USA
around Ukraine, support by patisan unity, by patisan support.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
We're thankful for all of this.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
But there is no any leader in the world who
can really make a deal with putting without us about us.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Okay, let's set aside all that stuff or whatever feelings
anybody has. How much leverage does he have lee because
that's what we're in now.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
We're in the leverage.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Game, because we're in the negotiation game.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
What leverage does he have?
Speaker 9 (38:21):
Zero. And that's why we see comments like this, because
you know, Zelenski's speaking to a number of different audiences here.
I mean, there are some people at home in Ukraine
who are watching. He's also speaking to the Europeans as
well as the Americans, but he knows that it's really
the United States. Donald Trump, it's going to carry the
ball for him on this, but he has to present
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himself as a strong leader. I mean, you know, it's
as you say, Jesse, I totally agree. Regardless of how
we feel about American money has been spent, and I
think we're justifiably quite angry about this that it's been
used for a lot of death. We also have to
keep in mind, I think the tremendous law Ukrainians have
taken here and they have nothing to do with what
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Zelenski and many of his corrupt ministers have been up to.
So it's a horrible situation and thankfully Donald Trumps has
seen through all of the noise on all sides, and
that's why he's keen, I think, to bring peace to
the middle of Europe.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Speaking of corruption in the government, Lindsay Graham had an
eye opening thing to say.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Here's what he said, but.
Speaker 13 (39:28):
You and your people, you're the ally I've been hoping
for all my life. Now what American has died defending Ukraine?
You've taken our weapons and you've kicked their own, and
I'm very proud to have you as our ally.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
What does Lindsey Graham get out of all this?
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Lee? I don't think Lindsey Graham goes at home at
night and wraps himself in a Ukrainian blanky and watches
thunder from down under. He doesn't care about Ukraine. He
gets something from this?
Speaker 2 (39:54):
What is it?
Speaker 9 (39:57):
I mean, it's a terrible way to speak, to speak
to people, talk about you know, all of you have died,
you use our weapons. We haven't had to do anything.
It's really very sad that that Graham should be so
I don't know how we put it tactless or clueless
at this point. And again he's speaking too many different
audiences as well, and he seems not to understand that
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a lot of people are listening to this and they're
just shaking their heads. How someone can speak like.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
This, Lee, Let's shift gears a little bit and go
to Gaza because one of the as I've told people,
Trump intends to do very big things with his four years.
He's not joking about Greenland, He's not joking about the
Panama Canal. He intends to write his name on the
history books. And he said something about taking control of Gaza.
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Except for the people in Gaza, that land means something
to them, as wrongheaded as they may be about some things,
the land means something. They're not looking for a condo
and a well paying job as a valet at the Ritz.
The land means something. How does this work? How does
this look?
Speaker 9 (41:04):
Well? Well, also, they weren't looking to stay in Gaza,
because remember that this has been the Palestinian cause for
you know, for about eighty years, to get rid of
the Israelis. So while they may not have any you
know what, yes, they don't have any special attachment to Gaza.
(41:26):
In fact, I mean a lot of people are living there.
But I mean remember a lot of these people are
living in so called refugee camps. And what does that
mean is that they were never planning to stay on
Gaza in the first place. Had they won their multiple wars,
or any of their wars against Israel, they all would
have moved into Israel proper and knocked the Jews into
the sea, as they've been threatening for years and years now.
(41:48):
I think that Donald Trump's initiative here is it's historic.
I think that. I think that the Israelis right now
are having a hard time wrapping their head around it.
And part of that is because of the hostage situation.
Part of that is because they're still fighting. But you know,
I think that Donald Trump's again the idea of taking
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this away not only from the Palestinians, but taking away
from the Israelis. And you know, who knows the purpose
it will serve for American interests. Will it be part
of a sovereign Will this make money for the Sovereign
Wealth Fund that the President and Treasury Department intend to
set up. Is it going to be effectively a ford?
I mean, again, the Eastern mediter training is vital for
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US interests. Is this part of what Donald Trump is thinking.
I don't know right now, but I think again, it's
an important and historic initiative, not only for the Middle East,
but very important for US interests too. I'm people were
shocked by it, and I certainly was surprised, but I
think it's I think it's a great idea.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah, that's fingers crossed. Let's see where she goes league.
Come back, Sue, my brother. I appreciate you as always.
All right, it's time for lighting the mood next. All right,
(43:16):
it is time to lighten the mood. And we almost, at.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Least I do.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
I don't want to put words in your mouth. We
almost kind of forget about Kamala Harrison, Tim Walls. There
was such a clownish campaign. It was so embarrassing. But
we we kind of have forgotten about the fact that
this woman, this woman was almost president of the United States.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
For those rights to be maintained, which means we have
to be vigilant. And it's just the nature of it.
That's what I mean, what I mean in this beautiful
play and everything that we know, he ended that he
was suppressed, he had to suppress so much, but he
knew and he you know, he shook those risks.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
But we have to we have to be clear eye.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
And it doesn't mean we don't see the beauty and everything. Right,
these things all coexist, but I believe we fight for something,
not against them. And that's where.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
You know what got me. It wasn't even Dome and
or idiot weren't selling things. It was all those braying
seals around it. M yeah, absolutely, like she's just dropping
the most profound wisdom on impossible. Oh yeah, yeah, that
was a good point.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
That was a good point. Let's see the borrow
Let's talk about freedom, censorship, NATO. Let's talk to Natalie
Winters tonight, Sarah Gonzalez, Lee Smith, what a Monday coming
up on I'm right, okay, let's have a discussion about
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freedom before we get to a massive, massive show. And
along those lines of freedom, let's talk about the fact
that the Anti Communist Manifesto was available on paperback now
at Jesse kellybook dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Stop. I had to do that.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I had to do it. But actually, along those lines,
this is one of the things that's written in that
wonderful book. Because we're about to talk about freedom, freedom
of speech, Communism controls, slavery, NATO, all those spicy things. Quote.
By classifying words as correct or incorrect, the communist is
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limiting the scope of acceptable speech. If he doesn't want
you to say something, he will forbid you from using
the words needed to say it. He's building walls around
you and boxing you in.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Now, before we get to Germany.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
And NATO and slavery and things like that, I just
think it's important to go back to step one, right,
go back to the basics, if you will, because we
all need that from time to time.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I need it, you need it.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I understand you're a political person.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
That's why you're here watching.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I'm right on the first so you're hyper informed and
you get the Constitution and freedom and history.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I understand that you know these things, but even a.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Professional boxer has to go back and look at work
on his footwork from time to time. The basics Freedom,
What does that mean? Why is it even important? We
love to use the word I do. I'm a red
blooded American. You do my end of the free, freedom, free, free, free,
But what does it mean? It doesn't actually mean the
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things that some of the things even that I love
that you may love tanks and planes and bombs. Freedom
doesn't mean that the flag. That's not freedom. What does
freedom mean? Freedom that has real, genuine meaning means the
government can't control you. It's freedom from government control.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
That is everything. It's not a small thing.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Because I've lived forty three years and I've only lived
in a relatively free country.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
We'll get to that in a minute.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I take it for granted. I admit I'm ashamed that
I do, but I take it for granted. It's all
I've ever known. It's freedom. But here in the United
States of America, land of the free, shining city on
I do.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
We'll get back to that in a second. Two.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
What does that mean? That means here in this country,
Unlike most countries historically, honestly almost all of them historically,
in this country, I can say things and the government
can not arrest me for those things, can't apprehend me,
can't stop me from doing so. Now, we love that,
(03:07):
We love that when we talk about popular things. If
I was to sit here on I'm right and tell
you I love puppies, you would never want the government
arresting me for that. I love Jesus the government. You
would never want the government coming down on me for that.
But what if I said things that were ugly, nasty.
I love Hitler, I hate Jews, I hate Christians, I
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hate white people, I hate black people, I hate pick
the horrible thing you could say, I hate puppies. You know,
real genuine freedom means you may hate me for saying
those things, and I would you probably, I would hope
you would dislike me if I say those things, but
you wouldn't want the government to stop me. That's real freedom.
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Can the government stop you from saying things? Owning property,
having weapons? Can the government stop you from doing so,
and governments have always Why is it so rare here
because the governments have always wanted to stop people from
doing so. If I'm so desired right now, I could,
right now, on camera say emphatically that I hate Donald
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Trump's guts, and I think he's ugly, and Jade Vance
is stupid, and I despise all these people.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And I don't feel that way.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
But if I did feel that way, I have the
freedom to say it, and nobody can stop me from
saying it. Try insulting the king in most countries historically,
See how that goes for you. It's everything that we
have that freedom here, That's what it means. But over time,
I'm part of the reason you and I have to
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go back to the basics. Over time we lose sight
of that. And as we lose sight of that, as
we take it for granted, as I take it for granted,
evil tyrants here domestically in around the globe have taken
advantage of it because government, back to what we were saying,
has always wanted to control your speech, control your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
As I laid out in the book, I've always wanted.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That because, let's be honest, if you can strip the
morality of somebody. If you take morality away from it,
act like there is no such thing as a morality.
Isn't a slave always better than an employee? Again, set
aside your moral compass. If I have no moral compass
at all, And let's say I need five producers for
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the show, why would I want employees I have to pay,
I have to consider their feelings.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I have to do that.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Why wouldn't I just want slaves do this, don't do that,
work twenty four hours a day. I don't care, work
till you die. Isn't that more beneficial to me? Well?
That's how governments see us, and so freedom America being
the shining city on a hill means we have to
take strong stances and have historically against tyranny, not just
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domestically but around the globe. Did you see this sixty
minutes clip on what is happening in Germany?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Inside six armed officers search disuspects home, then seized his
left top and cell phone. Prosecutors say those electronics may
have been used to commit a crime, the crime posting
a racist cartoon online. More than fifty similar raids played out,
part of what prosecutors say is a coordinated effort to
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curb online hate speech in Germany. Is it a crime
to insult somebody in public?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yes, yes, and it's a.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Crime to insult them online as well.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yes. The fine could be even higher if you insign
someone in the Internet.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Why because in Internet it stays there.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
If somebody posts something that's not true and then somebody
else reposts it or likes it, are they committing a.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Crime And the case of reposting it as a crime
as well, because the reader contstinguished whether you just invented
this or just reposted it.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
That's the same for us. And that brings me to
what JD Advance set overseas. I'll get to us domestically
here in a few I want to focus on something incredible,
amazing that happened last week, something we already.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Discussed a little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
But there's a lot to be excited about during the
first month of Donald Trump's presidency. I admit that I'm
happy about the deportations, the cleaning out of the government
things and that, things like that, But I don't know
that there's anything that makes me as excited and hopeful
for the future. I guess I'll put it that way.
As the speech JD. Vance gave in front of the
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European Union, and let me explain why before I play
a little excerpt of it. It excites me because that
shining city on a hill. Reagan described America as that
that shining city on a hill. That means something too.
It's more than just a wonderful saying a wonderful quote
we use. That means the United States of America has
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a role, in my mind, has a duty to be
a shining city on a hill for the rest of
the world. And oftentimes that means being forceful, being vocal
when we see freedoms being smashed, not just in these
traditional dictatorships we love to rant about all the time,
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not just in North Korea as the shining city on
a hill, as the land of the free. When we
see even our allies, if we're going to put it
that way, allies in Europe smashing freedoms, smashing the most
critical freedoms, we have a duty and obligation to stand
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in front of them and speak boldly like this. I
don't know that I've ever heard a politician say something
I found so inspiring.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
I believe the dismissing people, dismissing their concerns or worse yet,
shutting down media, shutting down elections, were shutting people out
of the political process for texts nothing. In fact, it
is the most surefire way to destroy democracy. And speaking
(09:08):
up and expressing opinions isn't election interference, even when people
express views outside your own country, and even when those
people are very influential. And trust me, I say this
with all humor. If American democracy can survive ten years
of Thunberg scolding you guys can survive a few months
(09:28):
of Elon Musk, But what German democracy, What no democracy, American,
German or European will survive, is telling millions of voters
that their thoughts and concerns, their aspirations they're pleased for relief,
are invalid or unworthy of even being considered.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
It means so much to me to watch us lead again,
because I love my country so much. I want us
to do more than just embrace freedom domestically. We'll get
that in just one second here. I want us to
be that shining city on a hill. I view that
as being our role to uplift the entire planet, not
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just but bombs and bullets, as we've done many times before,
but by going abroad and sometimes even in the faces
of our friends telling them you are wrong and you
are doing wrong, and you are doing your people wrong
and you should change.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
This is America speaking. It inspires me and I love it.
And good for jd.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Vance and good for Trump for let him do it.
Now that brings me to domestically as we wrap this
up here, I know you're aware of this, but don't
think for a single solitary second that we are beyond
or above that here. In fact, we just experienced four
years of it here, and had God forbid Kamala Harris
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won that election, we would be in the middle of
another four years where it would have gotten worse and
worse and worse and worse as the evil tyrants domestically
unleash their hounds on us. Remember, just remember this little tidbit.
If you remember nothing else, remember that the Federal Bureau
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of Investigation coordinated with Facebook to censor a damaging story
they didn't like so Donald.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Trump could lose his re election bid. Tyranny is a
breath away here.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
The FBI, I think, basically came to us some folks
on our team. It was like, hey, just so you know,
like you should be on high alert. There was we
thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in
the twenty sixteen election. We have un notice that basically
there's about to be some kind of dump of that's
(11:54):
similar to that. So just be vigilant.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
We are a breath away. Keep voting Democrat.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
We will see what's happening in Germany and even worse here.
And to be frank, we've already seen similar things happen here.
We must be ever vigilant, and we must be that
shining city on a hill. All that may have made
you uncomfortable, but I am right. Speaking of Mark Zuckerberg,
Natalie Winters has, as she often does, some really outstanding
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reporting about Mark Suckerberg. What's behind this whole transition he's making.
We'll talk to Natalie in just a moment. Before we
talked to her, I hope you got some good sleep
this weekend. I knocked out Aday, Friday night, a Saturday night,
a Sunday night sleep and like a little bitty baby.
And Saturday, I'd had too much caffeine. I was running
(12:48):
around and it just got kind of hooked on afternoon coffee.
So I was worried. I wouldn't be able to sleep.
Guess what I did. What made myself a cup of
hot chocolate before a bit. But it wasn't normal hot chocolate,
you see, it was empowder from being You'd never know it.
It was delicious cinnamon hot chocolate, but it had melatonin
and things like that. And it sits on a little
cup of it out like a light nine ten hours.
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Woke up Sunday, ready to go to church. Take it
off like a rocket Shopbeam dot com slash Jesse Kelly
gets you up to forty percent off, We'll be back.
I have trust issues. I admit that I'm old and
(13:34):
cynical and mean, and so when I see filthy communists
who've done everything they can to fund and organize communism
in this country, suddenly have a magical awakening. The second
Donald Trump gets elected and has some great approval numbers,
you can count me as skeptical. And there's nobody who's
spent more money to fund American communism than Mark Zuckerberg.
(13:56):
And yet Mark Zuckerberg now got his bro they're all
grown out, and he's hanging with the UFC.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
He's meeting with Trump down.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And mar Lagoo, one of the boys I don'm not
buying any of it, and I wonder if Natalie is
joining me. Now, co host of The war Room, investigative reporter,
the Wonderful Natalie Winters joins us. Natalie, you can count
me out on the whole Zuckerberg.
Speaker 8 (14:19):
Thing, Well, I will join you, being definitely counted out
on the idea that Mark Zuckerberg is maga's I guess
latest convert. I think I've probably seen transgender operations and
surgeries that are more convincing than the shtick he's got
going on to sort of contextualize this story, because I
think telling it sort of through an anecdote is very
(14:40):
telling of the mindset over there in Zuckerberg world. A
few days ago, I had put on a Twitter thread
linking a group that he had donated to sort of
by one entity removed, called the Silicon Valley Community Foundation,
which was in turn funding a lot of these groups
that are bank rolling and behind the lawsuits that are
actively sabotaging and holding up President Trump's agenda in court.
(15:01):
The meta people melted down. They actually ran to the
New York Times for cover, believe it or not, and
a piece smearing me saying that I was a right
wing influencer, not once referring to me as the host
of Deep and k Bannon's Warm, So very obviously a
press release right designed to sort of smear the story,
and their defense was, well, yes, we gave money to
this organization and we don't know what they did with it,
(15:23):
so don't hold us accountable. How's that for just absolute
lack of courage and anything more morality or ethically based.
But all that aside. I then decided to double down
on my research and actually found over a dozen organizations,
including but not limited to, those that are actively a
suing President Trump and court b organizing protesters, demonstrators, people
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to call their lawmakers against the President Trump, the America
First agenda, particularly when it comes to mass deportations, all
the petitions, the phone banking. You know how these resistance
type democrats work. All of these organizations having been funded
by Mark Zuckerberg or his organizations that he runs himself.
So the idea that Mark Zuckerberg is mister maga is
(16:07):
completely bogus. And instead of running to The New York
Times and demeaning myself and my show, he should be
condemning these organizations withdrawing funds, and if he really cares
about American sovereignty, he should be exposing the activities, the
illegal activities of these organizations, which include dosing ice raids
and ice agents.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I'm glad you actually brought up a few points there,
but let's focus on this one. Could you tell me
Natal leakause I know you're all over this stuff like
white on Rice. Has Mark Zuckerberg made any public statements
about his intention to withdraw these funds, stop giving these funds?
Do we have do we have anything tangible beyond the
MAGA bros. Sayings we're hearing out of Zuckerberg that show
(16:50):
he's renounced is maoist ways No, absolutely not.
Speaker 8 (16:54):
And I think if you sort of draw this story,
I'll the way back to its beginning.
Speaker 9 (16:58):
Right.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
He put out what was of one point five when
you take the spacing into account, was probably like a
half of a page letter saying, hey, I'm sorry for
what we did with the twenty twenty election. Our evidence
suggests that we actually didn't have an impact. Conveniently, no
footnotes were given, no evidence to prove that. But I
put the blame on weak congressional Republicans who treated that
letter as if it was some huge, massive victory. I
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believe they actually referred to it as quote a big win.
But what they've been doing in the meantime since I
broke that original story before we put out the larger
thread showing the over dozen, like I said, organizations that
are actively opposing President Donald Trump, while the chan Zuckerberg
initiatives their website where they itemize and list the thousands
of grants that they've doled out as you are alluding
(17:41):
to to overwhelmingly left wing, far left at that organizations. Well,
curiously enough, the day before I broke that original story,
they listed over five thousand grants on their website dating
back to I believe twenty eighteen. Now, all of a sudden,
there's only six hundred grants listed, and they announced that
they have reformulated the grant portion of their website where
(18:04):
they are only listing grants from twenty twenty four onward.
In other words, the entire twenty twenty election ring inclusion
hopes totally gone. And all these far left open borders
groups now suddenly I guess you didn't fund them because
they're not there.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Ah, you know, just a couple of clicks and a
delete button and all those sins are washed away.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
How about that, Natalie.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
These guys who are having these converts over here, I
want you to talk a little bit more if you
wouldn't mind, on how their organizations work, because this gets
confusing for normal people who don't do the work you
do when it comes to investigative journalism, because it does
get confusing.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
They all fund.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
This group, but the group itself doesn't actually fund the
filthy communism. That group starts another group, which starts another group,
and that just come up with a million different cutouts
to make themselves look clean. Can you give us a
communist funding one oh, one little thing here from me, please?
Speaker 8 (19:01):
Well, it's all by design. I'd sort of put it
through the same paradigm as a like Hunter Biden money
laundering scheme, right where they had all the different cutout
the shell companies and this LLC and this person being
brought in to do something. This all is sort of
the dark money network. And I don't think it can
be underscored enough. How these big tech guys, the sort
of Silicone Valley based organizations really have created these sort
(19:23):
of bedrock round zero for so much of this dark
money apparatus. I would say, the other half being supplemented
by sort of like the George Soros would sort of
euphemize themselves as the like, you know, pro democracy cohort.
But how it works is they pull I mean, you're
with Zuckerberg, you're talking several billion dollars, not even talking
just a couple hundred million. But they they'll pull it,
(19:45):
they'll park it. And typically these California based foundations where
the sort of tax laws and just the financial disclosures
are extremely vague, so you can't really even tell who
exactly they're funding. It's not like I can on the website.
Like put it this way, the chant Zuckerberg Initiative was
actually very unique to have even had a grant's portion
(20:05):
listed on their website. The loopholes are created intentionally so
you can dole out money to whoever you want and
you basically can't tell. It's I guess the upside of
the you know, tax exempt status for all these five
oh one c three organizations, which I would advocate to
completely strip the idea that these entities are non political.
I don't think there is anything more political then, I
(20:25):
don't know, orchestrating an invasion of the United States of America.
But through these sort of shell companies, they have first
of all, this like layer of defense, this kind of
for lack of a better term, Chinese wall, where they
can say, well, we didn't directly give them money. But
it's also just more broadly too. They're very euphemistic and
whitewashing and sort of describing their agendas. It's sort of
(20:46):
like the pro democracy brigade, right, the Twitter brigade of
blue check democracy defenders. They're very very you know, grand
standing and the ideologies that they're pushing, but in reality
they're pushing for the complete overtaking of the United States,
the complete dissolution of sovereignty.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Right.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
Global government might sound nice in un HR woman speak,
but in reality it's a complete deprivation of your civil rights,
your civil liberties. And I don't think that you want
people who not only are documented pathological liars like we
saw with Mark Zuckerberg, but people who lack courage and
are only interested in their own self advancement frankly, their
(21:27):
own financial interest being the people who sit atop that
global government superstructure. But that's what they want right now.
I'm all for big tents, except when the tent. The
people you're inviting into the tent are actively trying to
burn down that tent and then take it over or
retrofit it so they get to co op the MAGA movement.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Chinese Wall is actually so incredibly appropriate that I'm going
to now steal that and use that for my own purposes,
going on intellectual property.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
That very ccview.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
That's right. I'm going to give you no credit whatsoever.
Natalie Winter's co host of the War Room. Natalie, thank you, man,
I appreciate it. That's really good Chinese Wall. I'm stealing it.
It's mine now, speaking of dirty communists, where do you
have your cell phone service? Who do you pay every month?
(22:23):
You get a receipt every month, don't you? Maybe you
get it by email, maybe it's your text message you
Verizon bill has been paid.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
You know, Verizon hates you.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
You know when we talk about stealing elections and all
this corporate funding, Verizon at and TT Mobile, they take
your money and they give it to the most disgusting
causes you could possibly imagine. We fund our own destruction
here in this country, but we don't have to. When
it comes to your cell service, there's pure talk, pure
Talk the patriotic cell phone company. You're not giving up
(22:56):
service and don't worry about dropping calls. They're on the
same five G network. I pay half of what I
was paying at AT and T, and I pay a
company that cares about veterans America. Their CEO walk the
jungles of Vietnam for this country. That's my cell phone company.
I want to switch Puretalk dot com slash JESSETV.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
We'll be back.
Speaker 10 (23:26):
Well, he was standing in a country where free speech
was weaponized to conduct a genocide, and he met with
the head of a political party that has far right
views and some historic ties to extreme groups. The context
of that was changing the tone of it. And you
(23:50):
know that that the censorship.
Speaker 11 (23:51):
Disagree with you specifically about the right. Now I have
to disagree with you. The free speech was not used
to conduct a genocide. The genocide was conducted by an
authoritarian Nazi regime that happened to also be genocidal because
they hated Jews, and they hated minorities, and they hated
those that they had a list of people they hated,
but primarily the Jews. There was no free speech in
Nazi Germany. There was none. There was also no opposition
(24:13):
in Nazi Germany. They were a sole and only party
that governed that country. So that's not an accurate reflection
of history.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
It's I don't know whether it's inspiring to me or disheartening,
how stupid, slash programmed our enemies aren't joining me. Now,
my friend Sarah Gonzalez, host of Unfiltered on BLAZDB.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
It's wonderful show, I might point out.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
And now VP of Texas Family Project, we'll talk to
Sarah about women in leadership in a moment before we
get to that. Sarah the dirty communist Margaret Brennan, Yes,
she got scolded by Marco Rubio. But these people really
are just genuinely programmed, aren't they. Just everything to the
right of them is a Nazi.
Speaker 12 (24:56):
Yes, I mean, you watch her try to st ruggle
to complete a coherent sentence as she's talking to Marco
Rubio because like you can see the two brain cells
that she has barely running together to create any sort
of thought. I mean, it's incredible these people go through
four years presumably of journalism school, put themselves how many
(25:19):
thousands of dollars in debt and come out this dumb.
It's incredible to see.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Uh, Sarah, do you feel like I know, I feel
like this right now, like we are winning and I
don't just mean, you know, the Trump presidency and cleaning
out some of the government. It feels global. Maybe it's
a social media thing. I don't know, but it feels
as if the authoritarian left is getting slapped around quite
(25:46):
a bit right now. I'm not saying they're defeated, but
it feels like they are searching for answers.
Speaker 12 (25:52):
I would one hundred percent agree with you, And I
think that this all culminated. It began with Donald Trump
winning the election, because you know, when you're listening to
the mainstream media, the Margaret Brennan's of the world, all
of these people who blowhards, who go on TV and
they wear a nice suit and tie, so you think
that they know what they're talking about, and then they
proceed to lie to not just the American public, but
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the world. And so I think that Donald Trump's election
was really a wake up call, not just to America
but to the world that you cannot continue to lie
to your people. You cannot continue to lie to your citizens,
you cannot continue to not protect them, like what is
going on in the UK with all of these you know,
terrorists rising up and taking to the streets. You can't
continue to do that to a nation, to a people.
(26:36):
You can only do it for so long before they
stand up, they rise up and they say no more.
And so I think that we're going to see more
of this. I think that Donald Trump's election and victory
and what he has done since he's been into office,
quite honestly, has been inspiring to the rest of the
world to see.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, no, I don't disagree. But in case people think
I'm just getting too hopeful, we have so much work
to do. As I've explained your I'd be about to
clean out in the federal government. You have a lot
of words state wise and locally to do, even even
in your red state, which brings us to this video
courtesy of Sarah Gonzalez. This is from a Cathedral of
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Hope Church, allegedly in Dallas, Texas. Here it was, by
the way, and he's y'all voted for Trump.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Please don't tell.
Speaker 13 (27:21):
Us, no, don't tell us, or do and do you'll sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Start he voted for Trump?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Okay, because I will.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
I'll be down ofton like a year.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
And a half ago with some other drag us. You know,
it's fine, Greg Abbott, but he just he wouldn't stand
up invite me. And I'll be honest, I think the
easiest thing that we can.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
Do with the money that we raised is just take
away in those wheelchair rants and not lett him have.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Access in the floor.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Wow, lovely, Sarah, What did I just watch?
Speaker 12 (28:16):
What you just watched, Jesse was a benefit. It was
a fundraiser, a drag brunch fundraiser for the Cathedral of
Hope Church. And this was, by the way, I'd like
to point out, this was taking place yesterday on Sunday
after their church service in which they dedicated the entire
service to drag queens. And they brought up the Sisters
(28:37):
of Perpetual Indulgence. Yes, the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, of course,
the organization that has had multiple people convicted on things
like child pornography and masturbation in front of you know,
the public. And so you had the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence,
the Dallas Bears, Okay, And at one point there was
I'm not kidding, a man in a pup mask and
(29:00):
pup gear crawling around on all fours on the floor
while the congregation clapped for all of them. And this
was all led by a drag king preacher, a woman
with a sharpie beard, talking about how important it was
that everyone know how and why she does drag. I mean,
the whole thing was a total abomination. It was downright evil.
(29:23):
I got to tell you that was a church of something,
but certainly not Christ.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I feel like I need like the longest, hottest shower
in the world right now.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I'm so freaking grossed out.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Sarah, tell me about this Texas Family Project. I see
you're the Vice president. What's going on there?
Speaker 12 (29:41):
Yeah, just you can just call me Madam Vice President Jesse.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
No, I'm kidding so so.
Speaker 12 (29:48):
Texas Family Project is, this is what we're doing here
in the state of Texas. I already had teamed up
with them for our Defend our Kids Texas project, and
this one I just took kind of a further leap
into making being sure that we strengthen families here in
the state of Texas, whether it be protecting children from
what you just saw right there, or pornographic literature in
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school libraries, and you know, just protecting children, protecting families
at the state level, because, as you pointed out, Jesse,
I think a lot of people take for granted that
they live in the state of Texas and they think, oh,
we're read and so nothing bad can happen to us.
But there are really egregious things happening here in the
state of Texas to Texas children. School choice is another thing,
(30:29):
you know, and so we are really leaning hard into
making sure that Texas children are not just protected, but
they have they're equipped with what they need in order
to you know, survive. And so that is what we
are doing. And this is just some of the work
that we are doing here in the state of Texas,
if nothing else than to expose the demons for who
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they really are.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Can people help with this kind of thing, Sarah, because
this is the exact kind of thing people need to
do everywhere, not just in Texas. But I'm glad you're
doing it here. Your people have to get involved. You
can't just sit back and watch Trump and jd Van
slap the communists around.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
How do people get involved?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Can they get involved?
Speaker 12 (31:08):
Yeah, of course they can. So I mean we started
this just from this was a total grassroots thing in
which I literally was scouring for all of the abominations
that we put out, the drag show for the Drag
Queen Story Hour, the drag Show for kids, all.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Of these things.
Speaker 12 (31:24):
It's all accessible to you when you go to you know,
event websites and you try to search for these things.
Show up, film it, expose it, get it to me.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I'll help you blow it up.
Speaker 12 (31:34):
There are plenty of people who are we want to
work together with these people to make sure to blow
these things up, to expose the depravities that are going
on in whatever state you're in. So you know, if
they're in Texas and they want to help, they can
go to Texas Family Project dot com and either sign
up to get involved or I mean, we'll take your
donations as well, because this all takes money. And I
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think that so often conservatives they think to themselves, well,
I just want to you know, live and let live.
I'm just gonna keep my family and take care of
my family and not worry about the rest of it.
And meanwhile, this is what culture has turned into, even
in a red state. So wake up, people, get involved locally.
It takes so little of your time to just shine
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the light on the darkness.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yeah, you cannot live and let live your way out
of communism?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
All right.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Finally, speaking of blowing things up, let's talk about Ukraine.
I saw Zelensky got a standing ovation from senators here.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
He was.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
You look good, hang in there, you make your lash these.
I did see John Cornyn, senator from the red state
of Texas there get in the vapors as he met Zelensky.
He's also got a primary coming next year, Sarah, Is
(33:00):
this finally the year we removed that human barnacle from
the Senate?
Speaker 12 (33:05):
I gotta tell you, if it's not twenty twenty six,
then I just we're done here, right. I don't even
know what we're doing here, because the American people are
sick to death of this America Last Agenda, where people
like John Cornyn and Lindsey Graham are so concerned with
matters that have nothing to do with us and not
concerned at all with the American people. And if we
can't get something like this right here in the state
(33:27):
of Texas, I again, I really don't know what we're
doing here. I am trying to encourage our Texas Attorney
General Ken Paxton to maybe throw his name into the ring.
I think that he would be a really good primary
opponent of John Cornyn. But I mean, look, when you're
talking about someone as bottom of the barrel as John Cornyn,
if we can't find someone, someone, anyone to threaten his candidacy,
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that does not speak well for the state of Texas.
I really think this is going to be the time
America is fully ready to go all full, full out
America first. You saw that with the election. You see
that with the polling that's come out, since every single
measure that Donald Trump has taken to lean more into
putting America first, the American people are very happy about.
(34:14):
So I can't imagine that John Cornyn, as much as
he tries to cozy up to Donald Trump now because
he knows it's politically advantageous to him, I don't think.
I don't think Texans are going to put up.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
With it anymore. Amen, Sarah, come back soon as always.
Thank you man. All Right, I'm not done. Lee Smith
is going to join us.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
We'll actually talk a little bit about this Ukraine stuff,
what's going on there. Before we get to Lee Smith,
let's talk about those expense reports. You're stressing over hate
doing expenses, don't you look I don't even do them,
and I hate it because my wife doesn't. And it's
a nightmare. You're chasing How do you categorize this that?
Do you have the receipt? I don't have the receipt
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Speaker 2 (35:36):
Terms and conditions apply. Will be bad.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Peace. Apparently it's beginning on the way. I was about
to say on the way, but I guess we don't
know yet.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
As we speak.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Americans Russians their meeting in Saudi Arabia. I bet that's
hot and miserable to discuss the peace process finally ending
this butchery in Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Let's see how this is gonna go.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Joining me now, Lee Smith, author of the book Disappearing
the President, to be frank, you should really read everything
Lee Smith writes. Every time he puts out a column,
you should be reading it. Joining me now, is Lee Lee?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Okay? Peace process?
Speaker 1 (36:18):
First? Why isn't Zelensky there? How's this work? You're the
one with all the experience with all this crap.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
How's this work?
Speaker 9 (36:25):
Well? I think one of the important things is to
figure out what the US Russia you know, what US
Russia agreements will look like. I mean, you can't have
everyone sitting at the table at the same time, because
that will lead to chaos. And we've seen we've seen
what that looks like with the Middle East peace process,
where you have everyone sitting at the same table and
(36:45):
by the end they're all throwing.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Jello at each other or worse.
Speaker 9 (36:49):
So I think there's probably a pretty good way to
start figure out, you know. I mean, Donald Trump has
been I don't think he's been speaking all the time
with Putin and Zelenski, but he's certainly been signaling through
true truth, social and other comments he's made. So I
think this is I think this is a good way
to start.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Okay, let's flip to the other side. Let's assume that
they're going to start their beginning in Saudi Arabia, works
something out. Soelenski's all over meet the press saying things
like this, have you.
Speaker 10 (37:22):
Been given any assurances that Ukraine will have an equal
seat at the negotiating table?
Speaker 4 (37:30):
So I will never accept any decisions between the United
States and Russia about Ukraine, never an hour, people, never
an our adults and children and everybody. It's gonna be shown,
this is the war in Ukraine against us, and.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
These our human losses.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Thankful for all the support, unity between USA in USA
around Ukraine, support by patisan unity, by patisan support.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
We're thankful for all of this.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
But there is no any leader in the world who
can really make a deal with putting without us about us.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Okay, let's set aside all that stuff or whatever feelings
anybody has. How much leverage does he have lee because
that's what we're in now.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
We're in the leverage.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Game, because we're in the negotiation game.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
What leverage does he have?
Speaker 9 (38:21):
Zero. And that's why we see comments like this, because
you know, Zelenski's speaking to a number of different audiences here.
I mean, there are some people at home in Ukraine
who are watching. He's also speaking to the Europeans as
well as the Americans, but he knows that it's really
the United States. Donald Trump, it's going to carry the
ball for him on this, but he has to present
(38:43):
himself as a strong leader. I mean, you know, it's
as you say, Jesse, I totally agree. Regardless of how
we feel about American money has been spent, and I
think we're justifiably quite angry about this that it's been
used for a lot of death. We also have to
keep in mind, I think the tremendous law Ukrainians have
taken here and they have nothing to do with what
(39:03):
Zelenski and many of his corrupt ministers have been up to.
So it's a horrible situation and thankfully Donald Trumps has
seen through all of the noise on all sides, and
that's why he's keen, I think, to bring peace to
the middle of Europe.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Speaking of corruption in the government, Lindsay Graham had an
eye opening thing to say.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Here's what he said, but.
Speaker 13 (39:28):
You and your people, you're the ally I've been hoping
for all my life. Now what American has died defending Ukraine?
You've taken our weapons and you've kicked their own, and
I'm very proud to have you as our ally.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
What does Lindsey Graham get out of all this?
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Lee? I don't think Lindsey Graham goes at home at
night and wraps himself in a Ukrainian blanky and watches
thunder from down under. He doesn't care about Ukraine. He
gets something from this?
Speaker 2 (39:54):
What is it?
Speaker 9 (39:57):
I mean, it's a terrible way to speak, to speak
to people, talk about you know, all of you have died,
you use our weapons. We haven't had to do anything.
It's really very sad that that Graham should be so
I don't know how we put it tactless or clueless
at this point. And again he's speaking too many different
audiences as well, and he seems not to understand that
(40:20):
a lot of people are listening to this and they're
just shaking their heads. How someone can speak like.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
This, Lee, Let's shift gears a little bit and go
to Gaza because one of the as I've told people,
Trump intends to do very big things with his four years.
He's not joking about Greenland, He's not joking about the
Panama Canal. He intends to write his name on the
history books. And he said something about taking control of Gaza.
(40:47):
Except for the people in Gaza, that land means something
to them, as wrongheaded as they may be about some things,
the land means something. They're not looking for a condo
and a well paying job as a valet at the Ritz.
The land means something. How does this work? How does
this look?
Speaker 9 (41:04):
Well? Well, also, they weren't looking to stay in Gaza,
because remember that this has been the Palestinian cause for
you know, for about eighty years, to get rid of
the Israelis. So while they may not have any you
know what, yes, they don't have any special attachment to Gaza.
(41:26):
In fact, I mean a lot of people are living there.
But I mean remember a lot of these people are
living in so called refugee camps. And what does that
mean is that they were never planning to stay on
Gaza in the first place. Had they won their multiple wars,
or any of their wars against Israel, they all would
have moved into Israel proper and knocked the Jews into
the sea, as they've been threatening for years and years now.
(41:48):
I think that Donald Trump's initiative here is it's historic.
I think that. I think that the Israelis right now
are having a hard time wrapping their head around it.
And part of that is because of the hostage situation.
Part of that is because they're still fighting. But you know,
I think that Donald Trump's again the idea of taking
(42:09):
this away not only from the Palestinians, but taking away
from the Israelis. And you know, who knows the purpose
it will serve for American interests. Will it be part
of a sovereign Will this make money for the Sovereign
Wealth Fund that the President and Treasury Department intend to
set up. Is it going to be effectively a ford?
I mean, again, the Eastern mediter training is vital for
(42:32):
US interests. Is this part of what Donald Trump is thinking.
I don't know right now, but I think again, it's
an important and historic initiative, not only for the Middle East,
but very important for US interests too. I'm people were
shocked by it, and I certainly was surprised, but I
think it's I think it's a great idea.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah, that's fingers crossed. Let's see where she goes league.
Come back, Sue, my brother. I appreciate you as always.
All right, it's time for lighting the mood next. All right,
(43:16):
it is time to lighten the mood. And we almost, at.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Least I do.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
I don't want to put words in your mouth. We
almost kind of forget about Kamala Harrison, Tim Walls. There
was such a clownish campaign. It was so embarrassing. But
we we kind of have forgotten about the fact that
this woman, this woman was almost president of the United States.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
For those rights to be maintained, which means we have
to be vigilant. And it's just the nature of it.
That's what I mean, what I mean in this beautiful
play and everything that we know, he ended that he
was suppressed, he had to suppress so much, but he
knew and he you know, he shook those risks.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
But we have to we have to be clear eye.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
And it doesn't mean we don't see the beauty and everything. Right,
these things all coexist, but I believe we fight for something,
not against them. And that's where.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
You know what got me. It wasn't even Dome and
or idiot weren't selling things. It was all those braying
seals around it. M yeah, absolutely, like she's just dropping
the most profound wisdom on impossible. Oh yeah, yeah, that
was a good point.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
That was a good point. Let's see the borrow
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