February 19, 2025 • 36 mins
The turkey burger incident. We can’t exist as a country if one of our two major parties wants to destroy the country. You have been paying commie salaries for years. Sal Mercogliano, Host of What’s Going on With Shipping, breaks down American naval power and logistics through history.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Another hour of The Jesse Kelly Show on
a Wednesday. We'll make fun of Democrats being lost here
in a moment that's a really good time. We'll talk
about the idiocy of sending five thousand dollars checks to everybody.
That'll be less of a good time. I'm sure that'll
(00:31):
get the hate mayor pouring in. Who there's some emails,
some other things coming up on the second hour of
the Jesse Kelly Show. Now, let's talk about the other
side and how they're doing out here. Not well is
the answer to it? Lost is what they are. I
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saw yet another poll this morning that says about thirty
five percent of Democrats want them to be more liberal,
more communists than they are, and roughly the same number,
about thirty five percent want them to moderate. So what
does that tell you? A lot of people know there's
a problem, a major, major, major problem. They want it fixed.
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The problem is an equal number of people inside the
Democrat Party are religious. They do not want to convert.
They can't give up this oppressor, oppressed way they view
the world, and in fact, they want to double and
triple down on it. This creates a nightmare scenario for Democrats.
(01:40):
It really does create a nightmare scenario for them. And
let me explain why I talk about this the way
I talk about it. As I've said many times, I
want the Democrat Party to perform and get better. That
sounds crazy, and I know it sounds crazy out of
my mouth because what a hardcore anti communist I am.
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But like I said, we can't keep this country. I
love the country you love together. We can't keep it
together for another one hundred two hundred years if Democrats
are trying to burn it down, because they will take
power again, they will get elected president again, they will
have the House again. The set of these things will happen.
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And if there's still a party that's run by people
who want to burn it down, we can't build as
fast as they can destroy. I've used the example and
it's the best one. Of immigration numbers, Joe Biden brings
in twenty million illegals in four years. I'm getting emails
every day from you, Jesse. Trump isn't deporting them fast enough.
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He's thinking this is not enough. These numbers don't add up.
I told you it wasn't going to be twenty million deportations.
You can't find and depoort twenty million people. You can't
build as fast as you can destroy. We cannot continue
for another century, two centuries if Democrats are still the
party of burn America down. That is why I am
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fascinated and interested by what's going on over there. But
you want to talk about lost, this is where they're
at now. The most sustained campaign I've seen so far
from Democrats is sobs stories about fired federal workers. I mean,
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there are more than I can count. It's the most
sustained propaganda effort I have seen since Donald Trump was
sworn in. Here it is headline National Park rangers fired
from dream job on Valentine's Day pens an emotional viral letter.
Things are not okay, he says, Oh that was just
one another one. Doge dismantles the job security of federal work.
(03:50):
This is of course from Axios. One of the gem
quotes in here from one of these federal workers is quote,
the mentality that federal workers have that their jobs are
protected no longer exists anymore. Even if you're not celebrating
a federal worker being fired. I get that. But you
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federal workers who are being fired, do you understand what
that sounds like to all of us who live like
that every day. You might get laid off any day today.
Maybe I could get fired tonight. We're wrong that Premier
is very happy. But you never know. Maybe there's a
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big iHeart restructuring, or maybe there's some kind of lawsuit.
Who knows, Maybe I offended one too many people. This
could be my last show ever, might be the last
time you ever hear my voice. That's how we all exist.
I don't know about you, but because I have been
out of work before in the past, and I know
what that feels like, and I know what it's like
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to watch the bills pile up. My wife and I
we do not spend what we ma. Why it's not
so we can go to Barbados. Never been to Barbados.
We don't spend what we make because we always plan
on being out of work at some point in time.
It could have been during the next commercial break, I'm
(05:17):
gonna get a phone call. Hey, Chris, shut down the feed,
Jesse Kelly shows off the air. I'm out of work.
That's how you live? Is that not how you live?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
You might get fired tomorrow. This is how normal people live.
But the Democrat Party is so lost, so reaching for
some kind of emotional connection to Americans. The best they
can do is parade these federal workers in front of
US workers who thought they were untouchable, and tell them
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and tell us that we should feel bad for them.
And now we get things like this. We get federal
workers who were fired levying threats like this, and they
think this is going to endear us to.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
The civil servants have a lot of protections under the law,
and we're only supposed to be fired if our performance
falls short on the job. So what has happened is
that the administration has fired us. We call it layoffs sometimes,
but that's not what it is. It's an illegal firing.
And you know, it's just not credible to say that
thousands of people were determined to fall short of expectations.
(06:23):
I mean, literally every probationary employee at my agency was fired.
It can't be literally that we all fell short. So
what can you do now?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Can you do anything?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Now?
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Are you going to do anything now?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Of course, my colleagues and I are fighting back. Our
union is already in court. They've brought a couple of
cases that I think we'll see action in in the
next few weeks. And you know, all I can say
is that Elon Musk and the President picked the wrong
bunch of lawyers to mess with.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Now we have fired federal employees going on television shows
threatening the Trump administration, and Democrats are so lost they
think that that will somehow endear them to the American people,
or this or this communist. As you listen to this woman,
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this is gonna hurt, but I'm just gonna say it anyway.
I want you to keep in mind that you went
to work to well, not today because she's gone, but
for years and years and years, as long as you've worked,
you've gone to work. I'm sorry, Chris, I have to
say it. You've gone to work, and that money the
government has taken out of your paycheck has paid this
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vile communists salary for years and years and years and
years and years. You paid the salary, you paid the benefits,
you paid this communist to work inside the federal government
to destroy your culture and your country.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
National Cancer Institute funded study was terminated.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
I never received a written letter, but I was told
to stop work immediately.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
In that no our research expenditures would be allowed. My
study to explore how to safely collect sexual orientation and
gender identity and cancer care practices was in response to
the American Society of Clinical Oncology, the American Medical Association,
the US Preventative Services Task Force, in many other national
professional standard setting bodies that recognize that we need better
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data to create better clinical guidelines for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender,
queer and intertersex people.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I'm sorry to do this to you. I am you know.
I'm not a big apologize person, but I'm going to
play that one more time. I swear no. Sorry, Chris,
I'll try to I'll try No, don't stop it, Chris,
I'll try to make this the last time. I know
it's heavy, it.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Is as heavy as ten boxes that you.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Might be moving. But I want you, I want you
to soak up every single word, because this lady is
not some kind of a one off you me. We
have been paying the Communist to destroy us from within,
and the party is now so lost. They will stand
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in front of television cameras with bullhorns explaining what they've
done with our money to our culture. Listen to what
you have paid for. And remember this if you ever, ever, ever,
ever even consider voting Democrat again, play this for your
liberal aunt Pegy and inform her that this is the
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crap she pays.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
National Cancer Institute funded study was terminated.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
I never received a written letter, but I was told
to stop work immediately in that no more research expenditures
would be allowed.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
My study to explore how to safely collect sexual orientation
and gender identity and cancer care practices was in response
to the American Society of Clinical Oncology, the American Medical Association,
the US Preventative Services Task Force, and many other national
professional standard setting bodies that recognize that we need better
our data to create better clinical guidelines for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender,
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queer and intertersex people.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
And remember those poll numbers I read you about how
lost Democrats are. Half want them to moderate, but then
half want them to go further The problem is that woman,
the one you just heard, she's one of the brands,
one of the types that want them to go further left.
Does that sound like the type of human being who's
going to be convinced that she needs to moderate a
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little bit in order to win Michigan parties in trouble.
All right, Now, let's do a couple emails because there
are some things we need to get to before we
get to five thousand dollars steamy checks. Hang on, Jesse Kelly,
it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday. Remember
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you can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Also,
we have our shipping expert coming up about ten minutes
from now. Gosh, I'm gonna freaking nerd out on that.
But just a couple more words on how lost they
are right now? How lost Democrats are. Listen to these numbers,
and remember this is not necessarily an embrace of the GOP.
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What I'm about to play you, some of it is
obviously an embrace of Trump. Trump is such a powerful
figure that some of it is an embrace of Trump.
But these disastrous numbers for Democrats are as much a
rejection of the communist lunacy as they are an embrace
of the GOP. You want to talk about a party
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that might be in the wilderness for a while.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Donald Trump and the Republican Party has changed the electorate.
What do I mean by that? Well, let's take a
look at party identification Democrats versus Republicans. You go back
to twenty seventeen, five points more of the electorate was
Democrats than Republicans. You go to twenty twenty one when
Joe Biden was starting out, Look at that six points
more of the electorate was Democrats than Republicans. But look
at what's happened in February of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Look at this Republicans.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
There are more Republicans in the electorate than there are
Democrats Republican plus two. So Donald Trump and the Republicans
have remade the electorate. They've turned some people over from
being Democrats or independents to become Republicans. New folks have
entered the electorate who are more Republican leaning. And so
when you combine that with the fact that Republicans are
really really behind Donald Trump, all of a sudden, you
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get a winning recipe whereby you break the normal rules
of politics and give Donald Trump that positive net approval
rating when he had pretty much a consistently negative one
in term number one.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Why I don't understand why people would leave the Democrat Party,
You mean they don't want to.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Do National Cancer Institute funded study was terminated.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
I never received a written letter, but I was told
to stop work immediately in that no more research expenditures
would be allowed.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
My study to explore how to safely collect sexual orientation
and gender identity and cancer care practices.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Was it a response, Jesse, it finally happened.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
The title the subject to this one is I'm a
failure as a parent. Ooh, Jesse, it finally happened. I've
been fighting it off since my son was a baby,
but I fear the Communists have put their hooks in
my son. He is almost sixteen and so far has
been a great student of the Jesse Kelly program for
Anti Communism. But tonight at dinner, he had a turkey burger.
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Please don't blame me. I have made Jesse Kelly cheeseburgers
multiple times, and he loved them. I believe the Communists
figured out the easiest way to what person's heart is
through their stomach. He listens to your show, and I
know he may listen to you more than me. Can
you please help get my son Tate off the gateway
communism food of turkey burgers? Please help Jesse. His name
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is David Tate. Listen to me son. We all make mistakes.
I've made mistakes in my life, many many, many, many mistakes.
Just because you did one bad thing doesn't mean it
has to lead to another bad thing. You realize that
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just because you tried black tar heroin once doesn't mean
you ever need to do it again. You can stop now. Okay,
you're sixteen. Your brain's not even fully developed. You had
a turkey burger. I get it. I understand that I
watched one of my kids last night lose his mind.
I get it. Stop it here, stop it here. Let
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this be a lesson for you to one day teach
your son, your daughter that you can really go astray
when you're sixteen. Oh, Chris, I didn't even tell you
and Corey about this. My son losing his mind last night.
I'm not gonna name him, not gonna name which one
it is. But they're fourteen and sixteen. The hormones. Do
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you remember? You both? You remember what it was like
to be fourteen and sixteen? Aub and I. One of
my kids is out of town, so Ab and I
decide to take our other one out to dinner. They
love the dinner where they don't have to compete with
their brother. And they can just talk to you the
whole time, and we love it too. We just have
great kids. We go to this Japanese restaurant run by
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a Japanese family and looking at the menu, and Obbs
look at the menu, and I kind of sense that
the waitress stands next to us, so without looking at her,
I look up. So I'm getting ready to order my food.
I look up at my son, and he looks up
at her, and I admit, she was very, very pretty.
She's very pretty young waitress. He did not hide his
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emotions very well. It looked like somebody'd hit him with
the flash bang. He looks up at her, and his
eyes get it. I know he didn't mean to. I've
got to talk to him when I get home. His
eyes get about as big as saucers, and she's trying
to take his meal and he's not all that smooth
about it the whole thing. And I'm just sitting there
shaking my head the whole time. I'm gonna have to
pull him aside and have it. I know, Chris, That's
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how you learned. Look, we all make mistakes, all right,
we all make mistakes. He was he was a little overwhelmed.
In the moment, right, he grew up fast last night,
but gonna have to gonna have to talk to him,
Gonna have to have to have a little discussion with
him about it. So listen, Tate, don't stress that turkey Burger.
Just don't ever let it happen again, Jesse. In addition
to your other listener's thoughts on Commander Evans, Oh, this
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is uh on our USS Johnston talk from Medal of
Honor Monday, our two on Monday. iHeart Spotify iTunes if
you want to go listen to it. He didn't just
throw himself on that proverbial grenade, but he offered his
entire crew as a sacrifice to the country. My point is,
assuming he wasn't a narcissist, and he wasn't, he had
approximately three hundred times the stones to do what he did.
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I'm not sure he said this, but one documentary had
a quote quote, I feel like David without a slingshot.
He charged anyway one an example. Thanks for all you do.
Yeah that it's that story of the USS Johnson that
we told on Monday start of our two on Monday's
show was really resonated with you, and I'm glad you,
as it has always resonated with me. Just so much bravery,
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so much greatness is out there, and it is still
out there. Remember, these men didn't just live in the past.
There today, the men and women of today. You have
that in you. All right, Let's nerd out on some
shipping stuff. It has to do with China, America, the Navy,
other things. Got a special guest coming up next, and
then after that I will finally get to the stimmy
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checks hang on the Jesse Kelly Show. I like it
returns next. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday,
and it is time for me to put on my
nerd hat because I'm so unreasonably excited to talk to
my next guest. I look YouTube online videos. They've replaced
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what television was from when I was a child. When
I have some time at home sitting around, I go
try to nerd out on things that interest me. Shipping, logistics, navies,
these things interested me, as you know if you listen
to the show, and I came across a gem of
a YouTube channel called What's going On with Shipping? And
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the man who's responsible for that channel, sal Mercagliano, joins
me right now, SOO, first, let's discuss the past, shall we?
The United States Navy in World War Two. Most people
do not grasp what a logistical marvel it was that
we were able to fight the war in the Pacific
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the way we were.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Well, yes, first, thanks for having me on, and I
appreciate those kind words that you just said. I agree.
I think the logistics is what wins wars. And if
you look at World War two, I know, we get
kind of enamored with, you know, the technology and the
aircraft and the tanks and the you know, all the
kind of really g whiz stuff. But in truth, the
underlying thing was it was the logistics that allowed us
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to get the you know, the material, the arsenal democracy
from the home front of the battlefront. And without that,
really you don't have victory in World War two. And
that was really the big thing that allowed us to
fight a very long, protracted war, whereas other sides couldn't
do it.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
So would you mind expanding on what has changed, because
the last thing I saw from you you would raise
some concerns, some serious concerns about where we are now.
Why is it different now? How can we get that
many men bombs bullets, fuel food. How can we get
that across the Pacific Ocean en mass back in the forties,
Yet today we seem to be failing in a lot
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of these areas. What were we versus what we are now?
And why?
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Well, I think just one of the things we did
is we kind of turned our backs on you know,
what made you know it was really the underpinning. You know,
we like to think of ourselves, for example, as a
maritime nation, as you know, a sea power. But you know,
if you look at that kind of definition of seapower,
you go back to the writings of people like out
theyre Mahan when he's talking about seapower. It's not just
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naval forces, it's commercial forces. And what we decided to
do post World War Two, and really accentuated even more
in the nineteen eighties and nineties, was kind of outsource.
You know, something we've been seeing happen in a lot
of industries across the United States. But we outsourced our shipping.
And so whereas at the end of World War Two
we had the largest navy and the largest merchant marine
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in the world, we were hauling sixty three percent of
the world's goods on us flag ships. We were the
number one shipbuilder in the world. Today we find ourselves
in a situation where we have the number one navy
in the world, but we're the number twenty one in
terms of merchant marine. And if you look at shipbuilding,
China outbuilds US two hundred and thirty five to one.
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China right now is building over fifty percent of the
world ships. We build zero point two percent of the
world ships.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Why should that matter to Let's say I'm not interest
in the navy or anything like that, which I obvious
see am. But let's say I'm just a normal American.
These things history, Navy, World War two stuff doesn't concern me.
Why would having a merchant marine that's not quite what
it once was? Why do I care?
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Well, I think we've got, you know, for my channel,
what's going on with shipping. It all came into being when,
ever given when sideways in the Suez and all of
a sudden people found out how dependent we were on shipping.
And then you add into it the global supply chain
crisis that came in with one hundred and nine ships
off of la and Long Beach. We saw what happened
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when the Dolly took out the bridge and closed in
the American port for two months and two to three
percent of our imports exports couldn't move. I think, you know,
one of the things that I think is really important
to understand today is a country like China, for example,
which has a major shipping firm, the Chinese overseas shipping
company Costco. Not the big box store, this is cos
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COO they have you know, they control and hall about
fifteen percent of the world ships. And all Chairman g
has to do to put pressure on the United States
is tell the head of that company is like, hey,
just slow down your ships, you know, come in late
to the United States two days and that would cause
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massive disruptions in the United States. One of the reasons
we should have our own merchant marine, and I'm a
big advocate for it. Plus along with shipbuilding, is it
gives us the ability to absorb hits and not be
so one hundred percent dependent on foreign shipping and foreign companies.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Okay, now let's talk about the why Sal again, we're
speaking with Sal Mericogliano. His YouTube channel is outstanding. It's
called What's going on with Shipping? Why do we lose
all this shipping? I mean, I'm a moron, but I
have a map. I'm looking at all this coast slide,
east coast, west coast. We should be churning out ships
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by the dozen, but China is and we are not.
Is this over regulation thing what happened to us?
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Sure? So, I mean you had a couple of things
that really evolved that saw this. So one of the
first things was you had during the Second World War,
we use some shipping from other countries to help get
around some rules and regulations and neutrality laws. So, for example,
when we wanted to support the British in their fight
against the Germans, before we got in it, we weren't
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allowed to ship something like one hundred octane fuel necessary
for the Battle of Britain and their planes, so we
used Panama ships to do that. After the war, Panamanian
registry was seen as a nice, cheap alternative. They were
cheaper ships to operate, they were cheaper to build, they
were cheaper to crew. And so what you saw was
a proliferation of open registries. These ships that are out
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there that are sailing under the flags of the Marshall Islands,
Liberia and Panama. Now we're seeing the problem with that,
when you have someone like the Huthi, for example, start
attacking those ships, whose navy is supposed to defend them?
Is it the US navy or is it supposed to
be the Liberian navy? And I can tell you the
Liberian Navy is not coming, so it winds up being US,
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even though we're not paying for that. Then you have really,
you know, changes in technology. We saw, you know, the
US has been an innovator in shipping technology. We perfected
the use of oil, oil and ships, which allowed us
to sell longer distances. We came up with new technologies
ultra large tankers. We came up with the concept of
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the cruise ship, the modern cruise ship. And more importantly,
we came up with the idea of the container ship,
which absolutely revolutionized our ability to move goods. If you
look at the end of World War Two, we moved
about a half a billion tons on the world's oceans.
Last year twenty twenty four, we moved over twelve billion tons,
and so we are moving cargo faster, you know, more
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velocity and more volume than ever before. And the truth
what the US did was we just kind of really
turned our back on the shipping side. We believe that,
you know, our allies and our friends, and we could
always depend on what was left of the US merchant
Marine in time of war, and you know, we would
have these these allies, you know, in Korea, NATO and
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other places. However, what we're seeing now is that a
lot of these shipping companies are big international conglomerates and
you can't really rely on them the way they do.
Their priority is their company and their stockholders, not so
much the United States or even the countries where the
companies are based. So like Marisk in Denmark, you can't
really sit there and say, well, Denmark's an ally, therefore
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marri School will be there if we need them.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Why is China so good at it? Just because? Is
it just a matter of will? Is it just a
matter of they decided they wanted to be and they
just pushed forward and made it so? Is that why
China is better now?
Speaker 5 (25:55):
So if you again you look at how it evolved.
At the end of World War Two, we helped repopulate
our Allied merchant marines. We sold them over a thousand
ships to replace the ships they lost. We had the
Marshall Plan that allowed them to rebuild their shipyards. But
many of those countries in Europe and Japan, for example,
they set up policies that helped support their industries. So
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they provided either subsidies or a lot of incentives to
promote investment into those sectors. And what we've seen happen
is kind of it shifted over the years. It was
Japan and Japan and Europe, and then it went to Korea.
But then in the early two thousands, China saw this
as a key element that they could control the trade,
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and so they have invested heavily, not just in ship ownership.
They're one of the biggest, for example, providers of merchant
mariners in the world. They control literally the production of
metal containers, the big, huge shipping boxes around the world.
And then the big thing they're doing, as I mentioned earlier,
is they're really developing the concept of being the biggest
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shipbuilder in the world. This past year they are building
on order over sixty three percent of the world ships.
And they just realized that this is a way that
they can really dominate economics. They can control trade, and
they can control the flow of imports and exports in
and out of their country.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
So sal that was freaking awesome. We are going to
have you back soon. And I enjoyed it immensely. His
YouTube channel is what's going on with shipping. I appreciate
you very much, brother, appreciate it. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
It was a great pleasure to be with you.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I love that stuff. You have to let me nerd
out every now and then, what, Chris, I need to
nerd out every now and then whatever. At least my
dog is going to live a long time, longer than yours, Chris.
I give my dog rough greens. I know you don't
have a dog. If you did, mine would live longer. Anyway.
Fred takes rough greens. You know that. I say it
takes rough greens. It sound like we're giving him suppositories
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or something. He loves it. It's delicious. We pour it
on his food, well, we sprinkle it on his food.
It's a powder. It's a natural herbal supplement for your dog.
It's got vitamins and minerals and digestive enzymes because your
dog gets none of that from his dog food created
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Roughgreens dot com slash Jesse. We'll be back feeling a
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to Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Now let's have
a talk and you can get mad at me about it,
so as well. Just get this out of the way. Now. First,
let's be honest about something. What Donald Trump and Elon
Musk are doing cleaning out the fraud, wasting corruption in
the government is amazing. I have a little birdie who
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told me that Donald Trump is pushing to balance the
budget also amazing. These are awesome developments. So what I'm
about to say right now is it might sound nitpicky,
but we have to have a talk here. First. I
want to give credit where credits due. This is a
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couple hours ago. Donald Trump, he is being very smart
by publicizing all the waste and abuse. It's a little longs,
like a minute and a half, but Chris, go ahead.
Let the commander in chief lay it all out there.
He's explaining to people, look at all this garbage refining.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
Twenty million dollars for fiscal federalism in Nepal. Listen to
these numbers, this is all fraud. Nineteen million dollars for
biodiversity conservation in Nepal. One point five million dollars for
voter confidence. We want to give them confidence in Liberia.
Fourteen million dollars for social cohesion in Mali, two point
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five million dollars for inclusive democracies in South Africa. Forty
seven million dollars for improving learning outcomes in Asia. Asians
doing very well. They're doing a lot better than we
do in the schools, aren't they. Two million dollars to
develop sustainable recycling models to increase socioeconomic cohesion among marginalized
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communities in Kosovo and es Kali and in Egypt. We're
talking about hundreds of billions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I could, I could, Yeah, Okay, So they're cutting they're
doing good. They're finding the fraud I'm happy. I'm thrilled,
and this is me. You know, I would tell you
if I was if I wasn't, I'm thrilled, But I
want you to imagine this. I want you to imagine
that your house is crumbling. Termites have gotten in, Your
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foundation has cracked, been some bad settlement in your area.
Your foundation is cracked. The termites have eaten through the
studs in the walls. Your home is crumbling. Now on
top of this, the plants in your backyard, the landscaping,
they've died. In fact, the plants in the front yard
died too. You had a bad freeze. The plants have died.
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Now you decide you need to save your home, and
you start digging in on the plants. You're tearing out
all the bad plant Let's get rid of these bad plants.
These plants are dead. We got bad plants in the
front yard, bad plants in the backyard. You replace the
plants and you have brand new landscaping. Are you fine
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in that home now?
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Well?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
No, you've prettied it up. It looks better from the outside,
and you did things that mattered. But the foundation is
still cracking. The studs are collapsing in the walls. What
we are discussing with these DOGE cuts are significant cuts.
I don't want to be dismissive of them. But the
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debt and deficit disaster in this country that we are
already in and is getting worse if you pay attention
to this budget process, which you'll get to in a moment,
that's the foundation of the country. That is the crumbling
walls in the country. The inflation you feel has not
gotten better. Has it? Has your gross grostry bill gone down,
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your power bill when you're buying some have you seen
inflation relief? Now? Elon Musk came out this morning. He's
been floating it out there, talking about taking these savings
twenty percent of the savings, twenty percent of two trillion
dollars and sending a five thousand dollars check to the
seventy nine million dollars seventy nine minute to the seventy
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nine million American taxpayers. It's not just an Elon Musk idea.
In case you're wondering, as part of this speech Trump
gave a couple hours ago, he came out and he said, this.
Speaker 8 (33:34):
Is even under consideration, a new concept where we give
twenty percent of the DOGE savings to American citizens, and
twenty percent goes to paying down debt. Because the numbers
are incredible, elon so many billions.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Of this Ye, we got it, We got it. I
want a five thousand dollars check as much as you
want a five thousand dollars check. Believe me, you should
see look on Chris's face. No one wants worse than Chris.
But let me ask you something. Which number is greater
five thousand dollars or even one percent of all the
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goods and services you buy in your life in a
given year? One percent. I didn't even give you a
high percentage. Think about everything in your life, add or
subtract one percent. I don't care which direction you go.
Which number is greater five thousand dollars or one percent
of all the goods in services you buy in your life.
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It's the inflation that is murdering us, all the inflation
because the budget is out of control. That is the
reason your standard of living is significantly lower than it
was a few years ago. We don't need five thousand
dollars steamy checks. I understand the excitement we're finding the fraud,
and I understand the sentiment, it's my money, give it back.
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I get it. I'm not even criticizing you for it.
That money must go to the debt in the deficit,
for the good of all of us, including you, you, me,
the good of the entire United States of America. The
number one percent, if it is even one percent. Remember
the inflation after the Inflation Reduction Act, how it blew
up through the roof two three four percent and you
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couldn't afford anything anymore. We're talking a five hundred billion
dollar stimmy bill. No, no, no, pay the dead off,
pay the deficit off, save the country, no bribery of
the voters, save the country. I'm letting it go. I
want to move on. I want to talk budget anyway now.
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we have an hour left. Let's talk about these budget bills.
I'll make it fast because it's nerdy, but it's important.
Hang on
This is a Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Another hour of The Jesse Kelly Show on
a Wednesday. We'll make fun of Democrats being lost here
in a moment that's a really good time. We'll talk
about the idiocy of sending five thousand dollars checks to everybody.
That'll be less of a good time. I'm sure that'll
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get the hate mayor pouring in. Who there's some emails,
some other things coming up on the second hour of
the Jesse Kelly Show. Now, let's talk about the other
side and how they're doing out here. Not well is
the answer to it? Lost is what they are. I
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saw yet another poll this morning that says about thirty
five percent of Democrats want them to be more liberal,
more communists than they are, and roughly the same number,
about thirty five percent want them to moderate. So what
does that tell you? A lot of people know there's
a problem, a major, major, major problem. They want it fixed.
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The problem is an equal number of people inside the
Democrat Party are religious. They do not want to convert.
They can't give up this oppressor, oppressed way they view
the world, and in fact, they want to double and
triple down on it. This creates a nightmare scenario for Democrats.
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It really does create a nightmare scenario for them. And
let me explain why I talk about this the way
I talk about it. As I've said many times, I
want the Democrat Party to perform and get better. That
sounds crazy, and I know it sounds crazy out of
my mouth because what a hardcore anti communist I am.
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But like I said, we can't keep this country. I
love the country you love together. We can't keep it
together for another one hundred two hundred years if Democrats
are trying to burn it down, because they will take
power again, they will get elected president again, they will
have the House again. The set of these things will happen.
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And if there's still a party that's run by people
who want to burn it down, we can't build as
fast as they can destroy. I've used the example and
it's the best one. Of immigration numbers, Joe Biden brings
in twenty million illegals in four years. I'm getting emails
every day from you, Jesse. Trump isn't deporting them fast enough.
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He's thinking this is not enough. These numbers don't add up.
I told you it wasn't going to be twenty million deportations.
You can't find and depoort twenty million people. You can't
build as fast as you can destroy. We cannot continue
for another century, two centuries if Democrats are still the
party of burn America down. That is why I am
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fascinated and interested by what's going on over there. But
you want to talk about lost, this is where they're
at now. The most sustained campaign I've seen so far
from Democrats is sobs stories about fired federal workers. I mean,
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there are more than I can count. It's the most
sustained propaganda effort I have seen since Donald Trump was
sworn in. Here it is headline National Park rangers fired
from dream job on Valentine's Day pens an emotional viral letter.
Things are not okay, he says, Oh that was just
one another one. Doge dismantles the job security of federal work.
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This is of course from Axios. One of the gem
quotes in here from one of these federal workers is quote,
the mentality that federal workers have that their jobs are
protected no longer exists anymore. Even if you're not celebrating
a federal worker being fired. I get that. But you
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federal workers who are being fired, do you understand what
that sounds like to all of us who live like
that every day. You might get laid off any day today.
Maybe I could get fired tonight. We're wrong that Premier
is very happy. But you never know. Maybe there's a
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big iHeart restructuring, or maybe there's some kind of lawsuit.
Who knows, Maybe I offended one too many people. This
could be my last show ever, might be the last
time you ever hear my voice. That's how we all exist.
I don't know about you, but because I have been
out of work before in the past, and I know
what that feels like, and I know what it's like
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to watch the bills pile up. My wife and I
we do not spend what we ma. Why it's not
so we can go to Barbados. Never been to Barbados.
We don't spend what we make because we always plan
on being out of work at some point in time.
It could have been during the next commercial break, I'm
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gonna get a phone call. Hey, Chris, shut down the feed,
Jesse Kelly shows off the air. I'm out of work.
That's how you live? Is that not how you live?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
You might get fired tomorrow. This is how normal people live.
But the Democrat Party is so lost, so reaching for
some kind of emotional connection to Americans. The best they
can do is parade these federal workers in front of
US workers who thought they were untouchable, and tell them
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and tell us that we should feel bad for them.
And now we get things like this. We get federal
workers who were fired levying threats like this, and they
think this is going to endear us to.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
The civil servants have a lot of protections under the law,
and we're only supposed to be fired if our performance
falls short on the job. So what has happened is
that the administration has fired us. We call it layoffs sometimes,
but that's not what it is. It's an illegal firing.
And you know, it's just not credible to say that
thousands of people were determined to fall short of expectations.
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I mean, literally every probationary employee at my agency was fired.
It can't be literally that we all fell short. So
what can you do now?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Can you do anything?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Now?
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Are you going to do anything now?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Of course, my colleagues and I are fighting back. Our
union is already in court. They've brought a couple of
cases that I think we'll see action in in the
next few weeks. And you know, all I can say
is that Elon Musk and the President picked the wrong
bunch of lawyers to mess with.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Now we have fired federal employees going on television shows
threatening the Trump administration, and Democrats are so lost they
think that that will somehow endear them to the American people,
or this or this communist. As you listen to this woman,
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this is gonna hurt, but I'm just gonna say it anyway.
I want you to keep in mind that you went
to work to well, not today because she's gone, but
for years and years and years, as long as you've worked,
you've gone to work. I'm sorry, Chris, I have to
say it. You've gone to work, and that money the
government has taken out of your paycheck has paid this
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vile communists salary for years and years and years and
years and years. You paid the salary, you paid the benefits,
you paid this communist to work inside the federal government
to destroy your culture and your country.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
National Cancer Institute funded study was terminated.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
I never received a written letter, but I was told
to stop work immediately.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
In that no our research expenditures would be allowed. My
study to explore how to safely collect sexual orientation and
gender identity and cancer care practices was in response to
the American Society of Clinical Oncology, the American Medical Association,
the US Preventative Services Task Force, in many other national
professional standard setting bodies that recognize that we need better
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data to create better clinical guidelines for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender,
queer and intertersex people.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I'm sorry to do this to you. I am you know.
I'm not a big apologize person, but I'm going to
play that one more time. I swear no. Sorry, Chris,
I'll try to I'll try No, don't stop it, Chris,
I'll try to make this the last time. I know
it's heavy, it.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Is as heavy as ten boxes that you.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Might be moving. But I want you, I want you
to soak up every single word, because this lady is
not some kind of a one off you me. We
have been paying the Communist to destroy us from within,
and the party is now so lost. They will stand
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in front of television cameras with bullhorns explaining what they've
done with our money to our culture. Listen to what
you have paid for. And remember this if you ever, ever, ever,
ever even consider voting Democrat again, play this for your
liberal aunt Pegy and inform her that this is the
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crap she pays.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
National Cancer Institute funded study was terminated.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
I never received a written letter, but I was told
to stop work immediately in that no more research expenditures
would be allowed.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
My study to explore how to safely collect sexual orientation
and gender identity and cancer care practices was in response
to the American Society of Clinical Oncology, the American Medical Association,
the US Preventative Services Task Force, and many other national
professional standard setting bodies that recognize that we need better
our data to create better clinical guidelines for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender,
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queer and intertersex people.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
And remember those poll numbers I read you about how
lost Democrats are. Half want them to moderate, but then
half want them to go further The problem is that woman,
the one you just heard, she's one of the brands,
one of the types that want them to go further left.
Does that sound like the type of human being who's
going to be convinced that she needs to moderate a
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little bit in order to win Michigan parties in trouble.
All right, Now, let's do a couple emails because there
are some things we need to get to before we
get to five thousand dollars steamy checks. Hang on, Jesse Kelly,
it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday. Remember
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you can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Also,
we have our shipping expert coming up about ten minutes
from now. Gosh, I'm gonna freaking nerd out on that.
But just a couple more words on how lost they
are right now? How lost Democrats are. Listen to these numbers,
and remember this is not necessarily an embrace of the GOP.
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What I'm about to play you, some of it is
obviously an embrace of Trump. Trump is such a powerful
figure that some of it is an embrace of Trump.
But these disastrous numbers for Democrats are as much a
rejection of the communist lunacy as they are an embrace
of the GOP. You want to talk about a party
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that might be in the wilderness for a while.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Donald Trump and the Republican Party has changed the electorate.
What do I mean by that? Well, let's take a
look at party identification Democrats versus Republicans. You go back
to twenty seventeen, five points more of the electorate was
Democrats than Republicans. You go to twenty twenty one when
Joe Biden was starting out, Look at that six points
more of the electorate was Democrats than Republicans. But look
at what's happened in February of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Look at this Republicans.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
There are more Republicans in the electorate than there are
Democrats Republican plus two. So Donald Trump and the Republicans
have remade the electorate. They've turned some people over from
being Democrats or independents to become Republicans. New folks have
entered the electorate who are more Republican leaning. And so
when you combine that with the fact that Republicans are
really really behind Donald Trump, all of a sudden, you
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get a winning recipe whereby you break the normal rules
of politics and give Donald Trump that positive net approval
rating when he had pretty much a consistently negative one
in term number one.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Why I don't understand why people would leave the Democrat Party,
You mean they don't want to.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Do National Cancer Institute funded study was terminated.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
I never received a written letter, but I was told
to stop work immediately in that no more research expenditures
would be allowed.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
My study to explore how to safely collect sexual orientation
and gender identity and cancer care practices.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Was it a response, Jesse, it finally happened.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
The title the subject to this one is I'm a
failure as a parent. Ooh, Jesse, it finally happened. I've
been fighting it off since my son was a baby,
but I fear the Communists have put their hooks in
my son. He is almost sixteen and so far has
been a great student of the Jesse Kelly program for
Anti Communism. But tonight at dinner, he had a turkey burger.
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Please don't blame me. I have made Jesse Kelly cheeseburgers
multiple times, and he loved them. I believe the Communists
figured out the easiest way to what person's heart is
through their stomach. He listens to your show, and I
know he may listen to you more than me. Can
you please help get my son Tate off the gateway
communism food of turkey burgers? Please help Jesse. His name
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is David Tate. Listen to me son. We all make mistakes.
I've made mistakes in my life, many many, many, many mistakes.
Just because you did one bad thing doesn't mean it
has to lead to another bad thing. You realize that
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just because you tried black tar heroin once doesn't mean
you ever need to do it again. You can stop now. Okay,
you're sixteen. Your brain's not even fully developed. You had
a turkey burger. I get it. I understand that I
watched one of my kids last night lose his mind.
I get it. Stop it here, stop it here. Let
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this be a lesson for you to one day teach
your son, your daughter that you can really go astray
when you're sixteen. Oh, Chris, I didn't even tell you
and Corey about this. My son losing his mind last night.
I'm not gonna name him, not gonna name which one
it is. But they're fourteen and sixteen. The hormones. Do
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you remember? You both? You remember what it was like
to be fourteen and sixteen? Aub and I. One of
my kids is out of town, so Ab and I
decide to take our other one out to dinner. They
love the dinner where they don't have to compete with
their brother. And they can just talk to you the
whole time, and we love it too. We just have
great kids. We go to this Japanese restaurant run by
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a Japanese family and looking at the menu, and Obbs
look at the menu, and I kind of sense that
the waitress stands next to us, so without looking at her,
I look up. So I'm getting ready to order my food.
I look up at my son, and he looks up
at her, and I admit, she was very, very pretty.
She's very pretty young waitress. He did not hide his
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emotions very well. It looked like somebody'd hit him with
the flash bang. He looks up at her, and his
eyes get it. I know he didn't mean to. I've
got to talk to him when I get home. His
eyes get about as big as saucers, and she's trying
to take his meal and he's not all that smooth
about it the whole thing. And I'm just sitting there
shaking my head the whole time. I'm gonna have to
pull him aside and have it. I know, Chris, That's
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how you learned. Look, we all make mistakes, all right,
we all make mistakes. He was he was a little overwhelmed.
In the moment, right, he grew up fast last night,
but gonna have to gonna have to talk to him,
Gonna have to have to have a little discussion with
him about it. So listen, Tate, don't stress that turkey Burger.
Just don't ever let it happen again, Jesse. In addition
to your other listener's thoughts on Commander Evans, Oh, this
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is uh on our USS Johnston talk from Medal of
Honor Monday, our two on Monday. iHeart Spotify iTunes if
you want to go listen to it. He didn't just
throw himself on that proverbial grenade, but he offered his
entire crew as a sacrifice to the country. My point is,
assuming he wasn't a narcissist, and he wasn't, he had
approximately three hundred times the stones to do what he did.
(16:41):
I'm not sure he said this, but one documentary had
a quote quote, I feel like David without a slingshot.
He charged anyway one an example. Thanks for all you do.
Yeah that it's that story of the USS Johnson that
we told on Monday start of our two on Monday's
show was really resonated with you, and I'm glad you,
as it has always resonated with me. Just so much bravery,
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so much greatness is out there, and it is still
out there. Remember, these men didn't just live in the past.
There today, the men and women of today. You have
that in you. All right, Let's nerd out on some
shipping stuff. It has to do with China, America, the Navy,
other things. Got a special guest coming up next, and
then after that I will finally get to the stimmy
(17:26):
checks hang on the Jesse Kelly Show. I like it
returns next. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday,
and it is time for me to put on my
nerd hat because I'm so unreasonably excited to talk to
my next guest. I look YouTube online videos. They've replaced
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what television was from when I was a child. When
I have some time at home sitting around, I go
try to nerd out on things that interest me. Shipping, logistics, navies,
these things interested me, as you know if you listen
to the show, and I came across a gem of
a YouTube channel called What's going On with Shipping? And
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the man who's responsible for that channel, sal Mercagliano, joins
me right now, SOO, first, let's discuss the past, shall we?
The United States Navy in World War Two. Most people
do not grasp what a logistical marvel it was that
we were able to fight the war in the Pacific
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the way we were.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Well, yes, first, thanks for having me on, and I
appreciate those kind words that you just said. I agree.
I think the logistics is what wins wars. And if
you look at World War two, I know, we get
kind of enamored with, you know, the technology and the
aircraft and the tanks and the you know, all the
kind of really g whiz stuff. But in truth, the
underlying thing was it was the logistics that allowed us
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to get the you know, the material, the arsenal democracy
from the home front of the battlefront. And without that,
really you don't have victory in World War two. And
that was really the big thing that allowed us to
fight a very long, protracted war, whereas other sides couldn't
do it.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
So would you mind expanding on what has changed, because
the last thing I saw from you you would raise
some concerns, some serious concerns about where we are now.
Why is it different now? How can we get that
many men bombs bullets, fuel food. How can we get
that across the Pacific Ocean en mass back in the forties,
Yet today we seem to be failing in a lot
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of these areas. What were we versus what we are now?
And why?
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Well, I think just one of the things we did
is we kind of turned our backs on you know,
what made you know it was really the underpinning. You know,
we like to think of ourselves, for example, as a
maritime nation, as you know, a sea power. But you know,
if you look at that kind of definition of seapower,
you go back to the writings of people like out
theyre Mahan when he's talking about seapower. It's not just
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naval forces, it's commercial forces. And what we decided to
do post World War Two, and really accentuated even more
in the nineteen eighties and nineties, was kind of outsource.
You know, something we've been seeing happen in a lot
of industries across the United States. But we outsourced our shipping.
And so whereas at the end of World War Two
we had the largest navy and the largest merchant marine
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in the world, we were hauling sixty three percent of
the world's goods on us flag ships. We were the
number one shipbuilder in the world. Today we find ourselves
in a situation where we have the number one navy
in the world, but we're the number twenty one in
terms of merchant marine. And if you look at shipbuilding,
China outbuilds US two hundred and thirty five to one.
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China right now is building over fifty percent of the
world ships. We build zero point two percent of the
world ships.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Why should that matter to Let's say I'm not interest
in the navy or anything like that, which I obvious
see am. But let's say I'm just a normal American.
These things history, Navy, World War two stuff doesn't concern me.
Why would having a merchant marine that's not quite what
it once was? Why do I care?
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Well, I think we've got, you know, for my channel,
what's going on with shipping. It all came into being when,
ever given when sideways in the Suez and all of
a sudden people found out how dependent we were on shipping.
And then you add into it the global supply chain
crisis that came in with one hundred and nine ships
off of la and Long Beach. We saw what happened
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when the Dolly took out the bridge and closed in
the American port for two months and two to three
percent of our imports exports couldn't move. I think, you know,
one of the things that I think is really important
to understand today is a country like China, for example,
which has a major shipping firm, the Chinese overseas shipping
company Costco. Not the big box store, this is cos
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COO they have you know, they control and hall about
fifteen percent of the world ships. And all Chairman g
has to do to put pressure on the United States
is tell the head of that company is like, hey,
just slow down your ships, you know, come in late
to the United States two days and that would cause
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massive disruptions in the United States. One of the reasons
we should have our own merchant marine, and I'm a
big advocate for it. Plus along with shipbuilding, is it
gives us the ability to absorb hits and not be
so one hundred percent dependent on foreign shipping and foreign companies.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Okay, now let's talk about the why Sal again, we're
speaking with Sal Mericogliano. His YouTube channel is outstanding. It's
called What's going on with Shipping? Why do we lose
all this shipping? I mean, I'm a moron, but I
have a map. I'm looking at all this coast slide,
east coast, west coast. We should be churning out ships
(22:58):
by the dozen, but China is and we are not.
Is this over regulation thing what happened to us?
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Sure? So, I mean you had a couple of things
that really evolved that saw this. So one of the
first things was you had during the Second World War,
we use some shipping from other countries to help get
around some rules and regulations and neutrality laws. So, for example,
when we wanted to support the British in their fight
against the Germans, before we got in it, we weren't
(23:28):
allowed to ship something like one hundred octane fuel necessary
for the Battle of Britain and their planes, so we
used Panama ships to do that. After the war, Panamanian
registry was seen as a nice, cheap alternative. They were
cheaper ships to operate, they were cheaper to build, they
were cheaper to crew. And so what you saw was
a proliferation of open registries. These ships that are out
(23:51):
there that are sailing under the flags of the Marshall Islands,
Liberia and Panama. Now we're seeing the problem with that,
when you have someone like the Huthi, for example, start
attacking those ships, whose navy is supposed to defend them?
Is it the US navy or is it supposed to
be the Liberian navy? And I can tell you the
Liberian Navy is not coming, so it winds up being US,
(24:12):
even though we're not paying for that. Then you have really,
you know, changes in technology. We saw, you know, the
US has been an innovator in shipping technology. We perfected
the use of oil, oil and ships, which allowed us
to sell longer distances. We came up with new technologies
ultra large tankers. We came up with the concept of
(24:34):
the cruise ship, the modern cruise ship. And more importantly,
we came up with the idea of the container ship,
which absolutely revolutionized our ability to move goods. If you
look at the end of World War Two, we moved
about a half a billion tons on the world's oceans.
Last year twenty twenty four, we moved over twelve billion tons,
and so we are moving cargo faster, you know, more
(24:56):
velocity and more volume than ever before. And the truth
what the US did was we just kind of really
turned our back on the shipping side. We believe that,
you know, our allies and our friends, and we could
always depend on what was left of the US merchant
Marine in time of war, and you know, we would
have these these allies, you know, in Korea, NATO and
(25:18):
other places. However, what we're seeing now is that a
lot of these shipping companies are big international conglomerates and
you can't really rely on them the way they do.
Their priority is their company and their stockholders, not so
much the United States or even the countries where the
companies are based. So like Marisk in Denmark, you can't
really sit there and say, well, Denmark's an ally, therefore
(25:41):
marri School will be there if we need them.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Why is China so good at it? Just because? Is
it just a matter of will? Is it just a
matter of they decided they wanted to be and they
just pushed forward and made it so? Is that why
China is better now?
Speaker 5 (25:55):
So if you again you look at how it evolved.
At the end of World War Two, we helped repopulate
our Allied merchant marines. We sold them over a thousand
ships to replace the ships they lost. We had the
Marshall Plan that allowed them to rebuild their shipyards. But
many of those countries in Europe and Japan, for example,
they set up policies that helped support their industries. So
(26:17):
they provided either subsidies or a lot of incentives to
promote investment into those sectors. And what we've seen happen
is kind of it shifted over the years. It was
Japan and Japan and Europe, and then it went to Korea.
But then in the early two thousands, China saw this
as a key element that they could control the trade,
(26:40):
and so they have invested heavily, not just in ship ownership.
They're one of the biggest, for example, providers of merchant
mariners in the world. They control literally the production of
metal containers, the big, huge shipping boxes around the world.
And then the big thing they're doing, as I mentioned earlier,
is they're really developing the concept of being the biggest
(27:04):
shipbuilder in the world. This past year they are building
on order over sixty three percent of the world ships.
And they just realized that this is a way that
they can really dominate economics. They can control trade, and
they can control the flow of imports and exports in
and out of their country.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
So sal that was freaking awesome. We are going to
have you back soon. And I enjoyed it immensely. His
YouTube channel is what's going on with shipping. I appreciate
you very much, brother, appreciate it. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
It was a great pleasure to be with you.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I love that stuff. You have to let me nerd
out every now and then, what, Chris, I need to
nerd out every now and then whatever. At least my
dog is going to live a long time, longer than yours, Chris.
I give my dog rough greens. I know you don't
have a dog. If you did, mine would live longer. Anyway.
Fred takes rough greens. You know that. I say it
takes rough greens. It sound like we're giving him suppositories
(28:02):
or something. He loves it. It's delicious. We pour it
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It's a powder. It's a natural herbal supplement for your dog.
It's got vitamins and minerals and digestive enzymes because your
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Roughgreens dot com slash Jesse. We'll be back feeling a
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(29:07):
to Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Now let's have
a talk and you can get mad at me about it,
so as well. Just get this out of the way. Now. First,
let's be honest about something. What Donald Trump and Elon
Musk are doing cleaning out the fraud, wasting corruption in
the government is amazing. I have a little birdie who
(29:31):
told me that Donald Trump is pushing to balance the
budget also amazing. These are awesome developments. So what I'm
about to say right now is it might sound nitpicky,
but we have to have a talk here. First. I
want to give credit where credits due. This is a
(29:53):
couple hours ago. Donald Trump, he is being very smart
by publicizing all the waste and abuse. It's a little longs,
like a minute and a half, but Chris, go ahead.
Let the commander in chief lay it all out there.
He's explaining to people, look at all this garbage refining.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
Twenty million dollars for fiscal federalism in Nepal. Listen to
these numbers, this is all fraud. Nineteen million dollars for
biodiversity conservation in Nepal. One point five million dollars for
voter confidence. We want to give them confidence in Liberia.
Fourteen million dollars for social cohesion in Mali, two point
(30:35):
five million dollars for inclusive democracies in South Africa. Forty
seven million dollars for improving learning outcomes in Asia. Asians
doing very well. They're doing a lot better than we
do in the schools, aren't they. Two million dollars to
develop sustainable recycling models to increase socioeconomic cohesion among marginalized
(30:57):
communities in Kosovo and es Kali and in Egypt. We're
talking about hundreds of billions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I could, I could, Yeah, Okay, So they're cutting they're
doing good. They're finding the fraud I'm happy. I'm thrilled,
and this is me. You know, I would tell you
if I was if I wasn't, I'm thrilled, But I
want you to imagine this. I want you to imagine
that your house is crumbling. Termites have gotten in, Your
(31:32):
foundation has cracked, been some bad settlement in your area.
Your foundation is cracked. The termites have eaten through the
studs in the walls. Your home is crumbling. Now on
top of this, the plants in your backyard, the landscaping,
they've died. In fact, the plants in the front yard
died too. You had a bad freeze. The plants have died.
(31:53):
Now you decide you need to save your home, and
you start digging in on the plants. You're tearing out
all the bad plant Let's get rid of these bad plants.
These plants are dead. We got bad plants in the
front yard, bad plants in the backyard. You replace the
plants and you have brand new landscaping. Are you fine
(32:16):
in that home now?
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Well?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
No, you've prettied it up. It looks better from the outside,
and you did things that mattered. But the foundation is
still cracking. The studs are collapsing in the walls. What
we are discussing with these DOGE cuts are significant cuts.
I don't want to be dismissive of them. But the
(32:41):
debt and deficit disaster in this country that we are
already in and is getting worse if you pay attention
to this budget process, which you'll get to in a moment,
that's the foundation of the country. That is the crumbling
walls in the country. The inflation you feel has not
gotten better. Has it? Has your gross grostry bill gone down,
(33:01):
your power bill when you're buying some have you seen
inflation relief? Now? Elon Musk came out this morning. He's
been floating it out there, talking about taking these savings
twenty percent of the savings, twenty percent of two trillion
dollars and sending a five thousand dollars check to the
seventy nine million dollars seventy nine minute to the seventy
(33:24):
nine million American taxpayers. It's not just an Elon Musk idea.
In case you're wondering, as part of this speech Trump
gave a couple hours ago, he came out and he said, this.
Speaker 8 (33:34):
Is even under consideration, a new concept where we give
twenty percent of the DOGE savings to American citizens, and
twenty percent goes to paying down debt. Because the numbers
are incredible, elon so many billions.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Of this Ye, we got it, We got it. I
want a five thousand dollars check as much as you
want a five thousand dollars check. Believe me, you should
see look on Chris's face. No one wants worse than Chris.
But let me ask you something. Which number is greater
five thousand dollars or even one percent of all the
(34:14):
goods and services you buy in your life in a
given year? One percent. I didn't even give you a
high percentage. Think about everything in your life, add or
subtract one percent. I don't care which direction you go.
Which number is greater five thousand dollars or one percent
of all the goods in services you buy in your life.
(34:34):
It's the inflation that is murdering us, all the inflation
because the budget is out of control. That is the
reason your standard of living is significantly lower than it
was a few years ago. We don't need five thousand
dollars steamy checks. I understand the excitement we're finding the fraud,
and I understand the sentiment, it's my money, give it back.
(34:56):
I get it. I'm not even criticizing you for it.
That money must go to the debt in the deficit,
for the good of all of us, including you, you, me,
the good of the entire United States of America. The
number one percent, if it is even one percent. Remember
the inflation after the Inflation Reduction Act, how it blew
up through the roof two three four percent and you
(35:18):
couldn't afford anything anymore. We're talking a five hundred billion
dollar stimmy bill. No, no, no, pay the dead off,
pay the deficit off, save the country, no bribery of
the voters, save the country. I'm letting it go. I
want to move on. I want to talk budget anyway now.
At first I want to talk chalk to you. Got
myself all amped up there, It's perfect time to talk
(35:41):
about chalk. So as we're talking tea levels, I might
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you understand how deeply I hate medications? I just do.
I understand they're necessary sometimes with taking things I don't
like it. And the testosterone crisis has men running down
to the local clinic getting needles jabbed into their arms.
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we have an hour left. Let's talk about these budget bills.
I'll make it fast because it's nerdy, but it's important.
Hang on
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