February 25, 2025 • 45 mins
Kash Patel has taken over as FBI director with Dan Bongino being chosen to be his Deputy FBI Director. Jesse Kelly gives his thoughts on this and gets reaction from two former FBI whistleblowers. This come as Elon Musk put the federal workforce on note with a cryptic tweet. Jesse unpacks this as well. Plus, Joy Reid's show has been canceled by MSNBC. Brianna Lyman and Curtis Houck join Jesse to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Great news out of the FBI.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We will get you prepped for what's happening right now.
We have whistleblowers, FBI types, all kinds of great stuff
happening in this country right now. And I'm right, okay,
before we get into the federal government and getting ourselves
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prepared for the times that are coming in media and
other things, I have to do something right off the top,
because Dan Bongino is a friend of mine. I got
the news yesterday when everyone else got the news, Damn Bongino.
Obviously you know who Dan Bongino is. I'm not going
to insult your intelligence, but Secret Service Cop, one of
the biggest shows in the country, has decided to walk
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away from this gig, TV, radio, podcasting, all of that.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
It's like the best job.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
In the World's not even a job what we do here.
He decided to watch away from that and go become
deputy director of the FBI.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It's going to work underneath cash patail.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
And if you're looking for objective coverage of Dan Bongino,
you certainly will not get that here, because, like I said,
he's my friend. I love Dan, and I'm so happy
for him. I'm happy for the country and I'm very
proud of him. That's not a small thing to wave
goodbye to a job and the media, to go walk
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into the doors of the Stazi and start to make changes,
start to do things. It's awesome. What he's doing is awesome.
I'm proud of him. I'm happy for Dan. I'm happy
for us as a country because he is a man
who is going to go in there with a purpose.
He doesn't need that job. He's going to go in
there with a purpose for all the right reasons. And
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that's a good thing. And actually, along those lines, I
wanted to talk to you just about things that are
happening right now and how we should look of these things.
Elon must send a sent this out.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Over the weekend. It was a tweet over the weekend. Quote.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
All federal employees will shortly receive an email requesting to
understand what they got done last week. Failure to respond
will be taken as a resignation.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Okay, Now, before I go on.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
To anything else, let's just pause right there for a moment,
because I realize we have all gone through different things
in our life. We've all lived different lives, different careers.
So let's just stop and let's set all this politics
and all this stuff aside for a moment. Let's talk
about how you respond to certain situations. And I'll say this,
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how you respond to certain situations depends on the situation.
I know that's very profound, but let's put it this way.
Let's say you're a parent. Maybe you are, but let's
say you're a parent, and I'm assuming you love your kids.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I hope you do.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
But let's say you have a son he's going a
little haywire. Now what should be done about that? But
what does that mean, going a little haywire? Well that's
the point. You see, it depends on what we're talking
about when it comes to going a little haywire. One
of my sons went a little haywire and his math
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grade dropped down to a D.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
At one point in time, I had to crack the
whip a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Cut this off, cut that off, do a little more studying. Hey,
maybe we'll help you out with the tutor. Get that
math grade back up. And he did, and everything's fine.
But what if going a little haywire men got hooked
on black tar heroin? But if that's what going a
little haywire meant, well, depending on how bad the situation is,
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that will decide how the response, what the response needs
to be. If your son's math grade drops down to
a D, he may need grounded for a month until
he get things back in order.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
If your son gets hooked.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
On black tar heroin, you may have to take a
sabbatical from your job, snatch him up, drive him up
into the mountains with no way out, put him in
a cabin for a couple months where you will live
off the land until he gets his mind and his
body and his spirit back right. It completely depends on
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how bad things are. Let's come back to the federal
government now.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
It depends.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
On how you view the situation right now with the
federal government. There's a chance you are incorrectly looking at
it like that. And I'll just put this right out there.
If you look at it the way I'm about to describe,
you are dead wrong, dangerously wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
If you look at the federal government.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
As if, yes, it's too big, and they really lost
their minds, and they certainly went crazy under Joe Biden.
But really overall, it's really it's a good organization and
we just need to make some small changes here and
maybe fire a manager or two there, Just a little
nip heered, a little tuck there, and if we just
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make a couple of minor changes, then we'll get this
government back on track.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's it. It was a train, it was on the.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Track, and now it's just a little bit off the tracks.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Just it'll make a.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Minor and jument, we'll get it back on the track.
If that's how you view things in our federal government,
you're dead wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
But also.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
You're not prepared for what is necessary, because here's the reality.
The federal government isn't a little bit off track. It
doesn't need a little nip and it doesn't need a
little tuck. The federal government, after decades and decades and
decades of.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Neglect by us, we have to own some of that.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
And after decades and decades and decades of communist infiltration
as a corrupt, criminal organization that will destroy this country,
cause a civil war or worse if it is not
brought to heal. What we have over us right now
with the bureaucracy in this country, with the unelected bureaucrats,
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three million of them who rule over us, what we
have is a dangerous situation that must be stopped. And
not only must it be stopped, here's the thing, it
has to be stopped in four years.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
We have four years.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
This is the first time we've ever had a Republican
that is this dead set on reforming the federal workforce.
And we have four years to do it. And so
don't hold, not pause for a second. Maybe you're sitting
there saying no, no, we're gonna get jd vance in
at twenty twenty eight. Then we're having Democrats hold on,
hold on.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
One of the most dangerous things you can do. I know,
I've done it many times.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I do it practically every day, is make these long
term predictions about Paul ticks, about the electorate, about how
this election is going to turn out.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
That election is going to turn out.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
We have four years to bring this evil, corrupt, criminal
organization to heal. And it will not be nice. It
will not be polite, it will not be kind. It's
going to involve tears, pain, discomfort. People will lose their jobs,
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people will lose everything, They will have to move, children
will have to change schools.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
It will involve sorrow and sadness.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I don't want to have to move to the mountains
to live in a cabin for two to three months.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I don't want everybody.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I don't want a million people to get fired, but
I don't always get what I want, and neither do you.
When the situation becomes dire enough, then you must do
drastic things or else lose it all. I know things
are going great right now. I'm happy, you're happy, but
they better remain at this pace for four years, because
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we have four years to put Humpty Dumpty back together again,
and after that, if we have failed, we may lose
it all. This is about stealing yourself for what we
deal with right now. Because I saw so many things
about this email from Elon Musk, Well, that's a not
seem unnecessary, that's a little mean. I see these workers
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who are getting fired and doing these puff piece interviews,
and then I see people crying over it.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Hello.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I was a federal worker who had one month left
a per probationary period, and today I was told that
I will be terminated at some point this week.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I'm utterly devastated. I'm confused because my recent performance evaluation
was exceptional and I got upwards of fifteen hundred dollars
as a bonus because my performance was so good, and.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
This was my dream job, and it's just being taken
away way by an administration who doesn't care about science.
It doesn't care about people who might be homeless with
their dog.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Now, they don't care about our species that we're trying
to conserve. That's exactly what my job was doing. It
was just to assess habitat conservation for species for a
fifty five year habitat conservation plan. We should all be
so mad right now.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
We should all be crying like this because I'm just devastated.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I'm not crying because I know what has to be done,
even if in my heart I feel some sympathy for
that filthy communist.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I understand what has to be done.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And you are going to be and you, frankly already
are You are going to be drowning in these sob stories.
They're running montages of this stuff on MSNBC.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
And I served as the Chief of Safety in emergency
Management at the Philadelphia VA. This was an critical role
that ensure the health and safety of all those who
entered into our facilities.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
I used to be a NEPA coordinator for the Wrangel
Ranger District of the USDA. Forest Service, where I would
coordinate environmental review for projects in and around the town
of Wrangel, projects that are crucial to the town's economy
and its people.
Speaker 8 (10:22):
I'm moved from Alabama to Maryland to start my new
job in genemics education and Outreach at the National Institutes
of Health. My job was to help educate students, teachers,
and help your providers about genomics to improve patient care
and develop the future scientific workforce.
Speaker 9 (10:38):
As the only aquatic ecollegist at the largest reservoir in
the United States, my job was mostly to monitor for
water quality for recreational uses, making sure that when people
are outvoting or swimming, that the water quality is sufficient
to keep people healthy.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
This propaganda is going to continue because it's aimed at
your heart. Because remember, as we've said so many times before,
one of the two foundational pillars of American communism is
making sure you pay for their activism. You pay for
all of it. They worm their way into the government,
they stay there forever. They suck up your taxpayer dollars,
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and they use it to abuse you without end. And
you cannot reform a corrupt criminal organization with three million
employees without pay without unemployment, without your dog, without having
to move.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Without things like that.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I know you may very well be tempted, in that
wonderful heart of yours to back off. Hey, maybe we're
going too far. Hey, we don't have to be mean
about it. No, no, no, no, no no. Your son
didn't get a d in math. Your son's hooked on
black tar heroin. It's time to go to the mountains.
All that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am
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right now something that makes me incredibly comfortable. Joy Reid
got fired, useless piece of trash he is, so I
figure we might as well have Curtis. How can Brionna
lyman On to show up and spike the football on that?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
We'll get to that in just a moment.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Before we get to that, let's talk about how you
sleep at night.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You toss and turn, I have to get up to
pee in the middle of the night, and then you
feel it the next day. Don't you kind of grog
it because you can't sleep through the night? Dream powder
from beam.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You don't have you.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Sleeping through the night seven eight nine hours. However much
time you have natural sleep because it's a cup of
hot chocolate with natural things in it.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
It's delicious and.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
You will go sleep like a little bitty baby every
night without the tossing, the turning, the peeing. Shopbeam dot
com slash Jesse Kelly, We'll be back.
Speaker 10 (13:01):
My show had value, whether it was the Black Lives
Matter issues we need to understand sixteen nineteen as the
real founding of this country, whether it's talking about Gaza
and the fact that we as the American people have
a right to object, to have a right to object
to little babies being bond. Those things are of God.
(13:22):
And you know, I'm a church girl too, and those
are the things that I was taught were of God.
And so I'm not sorry. I'm just proud of my show.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, there's no show to be proud of anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
The readout Joy Reid's show on MSNBC has officially gotten
the old hook, and so joining me now to I
don't know, celebrate, just discuss.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
The whole media landscape.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
As my friend Curtis House, managing editor of NewsBusters and
Breonna Lyman with the Federalist, wonderful correspondent for the Federalists. Okay, Curtis,
everyone's out there screaming that Joyanne Reid got fired because
she's dumb or Joyne Reid got fired because she's a communist,
And of course she's all those things in many other things.
But everyone on MSNBC is a dumb communist. That doesn't
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get you fired. So why did she get fired?
Speaker 11 (14:12):
Yeah, well she lost half of her ratings since the election.
I mean, that's really impressive, and I should remind folks
that she didn't even just get this job solely based
on merit.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
She was given this.
Speaker 11 (14:24):
Job as a DEI hire because Chris Matthews made some
woman feel uncomfortable a few years ago, so they metuned
him off the stage, and instead of give it to
someone who actually knows politics, even if he is a lefty,
they gave it to somebody like this, the biggest racial
arsonist on the planet, an evil woman, one of the
people I would say Jesse actually believes the things that
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she is saying. A lot of these folks, at least
a few of them, I can tell you personally, probably
don't believe a lot of the things they're saying, or
at least, you know, don't genuinely think we're the enemy,
where she actually does. So to see her booted I
think is a good thing for America.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Brianna, I can't help but notice the things are rough
in the corporate media world now. Anyway, we have all
these anchors that are leaving, Lester Holds leaving. You're talking
about NBC in the tank for thirty mil because of
something some dumb host said.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
What happened?
Speaker 12 (15:21):
Yeah, this was a crazy story.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
You know.
Speaker 12 (15:23):
Back in twenty twenty, if we remember, there was that
Ice Attention facility in Georgia, and there was a doctor
and I can't pronounce his name, but doctor Amin who
performed two, just two hysterectomies, and there was a whistleblower
complaint that NBC Universal just ate up. They took that
as fact, and they reported that this doctor was a
collector of uteruses. They were trying to sneer and malign
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and demean him, and he sued them for slander by saying, look,
Ice approved these two hysterectomies. These women signed consent forms
to say I will get a hysterectomy, but that didn't
matter to NBC Universal. And in fact, during discovery process,
it was found that even the execuscutives at NBC Universal said,
I don't know if this story is actually pretty accurate,
it seems like there's a lot of big holes in it,
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and they still publish it anyway. So they finally settled
this case. Doctor Minn was looking for thirty million dollars.
It's not clear if that's what he got in the
settlement yet, but that's what he was seeking. So he
definitely got a few bucks out of NBC Universal. And
it is an indictment that the propaganda press is losing
the power it once had.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, they sure are.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Curtis, what do you make of the turnover, because, like
I said, it's not just Joanne Reid and Chad Bunschem.
Is this just all about money? Are these places? Are
they all losing their writings.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
And they're trying to find the younger, cheaper option.
Speaker 11 (16:37):
If you will, Yeah, I mean I definitely think it
is cost Hoda Kopy did not leave the Today Show
Jesse out of the goodness of her heart because she
said she had to give more of her time pie
to her children. No, it's because you don't. They've realized
that twenty million dollars a year for these people is
not going to fly. For some reason, ABC's dumb enough
to think David Mure, who is the English comprehension of
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an elementary school student, is still worth giving money to,
you know, Monday Afternoon MSNBC reportedly also got rid of
Katie fang Aman Moheden the Hamas apologist. Maybe he can
go back to Al Jazeera or something. And Jonathan ka
Part the gay Washington Post guy, so he still has
PBS going for him until we defund that as well.
(17:20):
So it definitely is about turnover, except with very few
asterisks like David Mure and Rachel Maddow. As you just
saw there, she's still getting her twenty million dollars to
host one day a week.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Jeez, one day away.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
So last week, I think it was last week, we
got this clipper of Margaret Brennan CNCBS. That is it's
it's astounding, but at the same time, it's how these
people view the world.
Speaker 13 (17:48):
Here was well, he was standing in a country where
free speech was weaponized to kentuct a genocide, and he
met with the head of a political party that has
far right views and some historic ties to extreme groups.
The context of that was changing the tone of it.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
And you know that, Brianna.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
The communists in this country are so broken that they've
now convinced themselves that the Holocaust happened because of free speech.
Speaker 12 (18:25):
Yes, the Holocaust happened because of free speech in a
country at a time when the Nazis actually did not
allow free speech. But somehow it was free speech. And
this is not just a slip of the tongue. It
wasn't an accidental insulting comment. That our assertion that she
made this was deliberate, right, because Margaret Brennan, like the
rest of these members of the propaganda press, see themselves
as propagandists. And one way that they work for the
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totalitarian regime such as under the Biden Harris administration, is
they want to convince Americans to see their right to
having free speech.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Democrats would do.
Speaker 12 (18:55):
Far less, you know, well in elections if censorship was permissible,
right to Murphy or Biden, you know the Murphy case
of the Supreme Court, Murphy being Missouri. The Biden administration tried,
you know, hand over fist to try and squash free
speech and censorship and make it permissible in this country
to censor markets because of true but inconvenient free speech.
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And so when you have mouth pieces like Margaret Brennan
getting on, you know, national media and trying to say that, yeah,
free speech is kind of dangerous. It is an attempt
to sway the general public to questioning whether they deserve
the right to free speech.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Speaking of which, Ihan Omar had a little exchange with
some Madi Hassan, some idiot on TV, and here's what
she said.
Speaker 14 (19:42):
These these people are just idiots. I really, you know,
I'm at the point where it's become really hard to
have an intellectual debate with any of these people because
the level of stupidity that they are displaying every single
day is frankly embarrassing, not just in Congress but as Americans.
And the fact that these people are allowed to say
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just the most ridiculous things tells you that the dumbing
of the United States has arrived, because how else do
we get Trump presidency.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Again, There's a lot you can take from that segment,
but honestly, the part that always stood out to be
curtis is the allowed the fact that they're allowed to
say these things. They can't help themselves, can they.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
There's just a tyrant.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
If you just scratch the surface a little bit, one,
it will smell and two there's a tyrant under there.
Speaker 11 (20:36):
Yeah, and she's also proof that you can just say
a whole lot of things without actually really having said
anything to be agin with. I think this goes to
between this and the previous clip with Frianna there is
the Left doesn't want to have a genuine battle of ideas.
We see this with elections in Europe. They want to
outlaw certain parties. They want to outlaw certain forms of media.
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In Canada, they want to double the funny for the
CBC or something out of national security. They don't want
to win a debate on merits. They don't want to
win hearts and minds because they much rather do it
by reading the system, by silencing dissent and then forcing
their views upon we the people, instead of genuinely convincing
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them that their way is the best way. They don't
want to have an actual discussion about, you know, which
way do we want to go as a country, which
way do we want to go as a society, because
that's just too much work for them.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Finally, we have to talk about my new favorite democrat.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I just adored her so much, Jasmin Crockett.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Every time you turn onto television, her fat stupid face
is on there saying something dumb here she is.
Speaker 15 (21:45):
He's been the one to call it out. The fact
that I'm rooting for Canada and I'm rooting for Mexico
a lot is really wild. But they are really the
ones that are speaking in truth to power right now.
They can see what it is and they were like,
we are not missing with this crazy regime from Mary
and basically calling them thugs.
Speaker 16 (22:02):
That's what it is.
Speaker 15 (22:03):
But I'm like, y'all knew who he was when y'all
elected him, So don't act surprise, Brianna.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I am a little surprised that a party that is
controlled as a Democrat party is is letting her run
wild and make the GOP midterm ads for them every
single day.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
What is going on here?
Speaker 10 (22:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (22:22):
You know, Sam Adams once said that the colonists know
what is designed against them, and he was talking about
they understand that the British government was designed to suppress
their liberties and trample on their rights. People understand that
Democrats are designed against the American people. Right now. This
isn't the Democratic Party of you know, sixty years ago.
This is a Democratic Party of twenty twenty four that
doesn't want Americans to have rights that actively cheers on
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countries that are sending rapists, murderers, drugs that are killing
hundreds of thousands of Americans and they're supporting them. She
said something stupid last week as well, she said, we're
not on the business of giving money away, right because
she didn't want to give taxpayer DOJE refunds.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Is not giving money.
Speaker 12 (23:00):
Wait, it's giving money back to taxpayers because of radical
pet projects by people like you and the Democratic Party
who are stealing them. So if they want to keep
trotting her out there, that's great. Like you said, it's
good for the midterms for Republicans, but this is the
ethos of the Democratic Party right.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Now, both of you appreciate you. Come back soon. All right.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
We have a new Deputy Director of the FBI, Dan Bongino,
as we talked about in the open. We have a
couple FBI whistle blowers, Steve and Garrett, going to join
us next. What do they think about all this? They
do them back flips before we get to that. We
talked a lot about putting our money where our morals are.
And you know, I'm not a big jewelry guy. Things
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like that it's just not what I do. I had
the same watch for ten fifteen years. I finally bought
a new one. Why Well, honestly, it's not just the
fact that Wasson Watch is run by the United States Marine.
It's the fact that they boldly and publicly speak out
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on our behalf. They weigh into cultural issues. The first
time I came across Wasson Watch, I'm looking at this
watch and I thought, Wow, that's beautiful, and then I look,
they're advocating on behalf of the unborn unapologetically.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
That is the kind of company I support.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
And as I said, second I saw it, I don't
remember where I bought my last watch, and I truly don't,
but I know exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Where I'm buying my next one. Wasson Watch.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Go look at their amazing watches and support a company
that shares and promotes your values. And keep in mind
you get ten percent off Wassonwatch dot com code Jesse
gets you ten percent off. Go get a Wasson Watch
and put your money where your morals are.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
We'll be back.
Speaker 17 (25:04):
To the Senators and the men and women of the
United States House of Representatives. You placed an enormous trust
in me an enormous leap of faith, one that I
didn't know that I could possibly earn back. But I'm
going to spend every single day on this job doing so.
The fact that you place the confidence you did in
me has inspired me to reach new heights at this job.
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I promised you the following there will be accountability within
the FBI and outside of the FBI, and we will
do it through rigorous constitutional oversights starting this weekend.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, I like it. I bet you.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I don't like it as much as Steve and Garrett
like it, but I like it quite a bit. Joining
me now the brave FBI whistleblowers who spoke out before
it was comfortable and easy to do so. Garrett o'boyle's
Steve friend. Okay, Steve, let's start. Oh, by the way,
co hosts of the American Radicals podcast, So I would
highly recommend, Hey, Steve, first reaction, Cash Battel gets in there.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Do you feel vindicated? Relieved? Are you still apprehensive? Where
you at?
Speaker 18 (26:12):
I'd say it cautiously optimistic. If I've learned anything over
the last two and a half years. You don't get
too excited, you don't get too down. These things are
always sort of influx. But when you see the remarks
that Cash made there at his speech there after he
gets sworn in as the FBI director, I'm very enthused
about that because one of the big drums that I've
been beating for the last two and a half years
is how the FBI has gotten away from its prime directive.
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The prime directive to follow the process, which is rigorous
obedience to the Constitution, adherence to the rule of law,
respect for civil rights, not concerned with the outcome. You
gather the facts, you present them, and then with the
fact support a conviction, that's the facts. If they don't,
that's the fact. That's not on you. Unfortunately, though, over
the last four years, we've seen the FBI get away
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from that and they're really concerned about the outcome. They
put their thumb, if not their entire arm on the
ski and that is not keeping with the way that
we historically do law enforcement in this country.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Garrett, we all saw the news yesterday that Dan Bongino
is going to be deputy director. Obviously, depends on who
you are and how you look at life. Some people
are doing backflips today. Some people are spiking to find
china off the kitchen floor. What's happening in the old
Boyle household?
Speaker 19 (27:23):
Similar to Steve, you know, I think so Steve just
hit his twenty nine month suspend aversary.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Mine's coming up here in two days.
Speaker 19 (27:33):
So we have learned to try and just remain even
and it's difficult. My wife was saying last night, you
know that I can't imagine what you're going through to me,
and I'm like, wait, this is this affects you equally too,
And also already hearing from people in the FBI, most
of which are excited for this, for this duo of
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Cash and Dan, and I think though, there's going to
be a learning curve for both. Neither have much experience
with or certainly in the FBI, so they're going to
have to work hard to surround themselves with people who
understand the bureau and can help them implement and make.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Positive change to the agency.
Speaker 19 (28:14):
And so the learning curve is a bit steep, I think,
but at least we know we have two people who
are truly seeking to do the right thing. As Steve mentioned,
with Cash's speech, that's what you get with Cash Battel.
He didn't have prepared remarks he spoke from the heart.
All my interactions with him have been that way, and
out of all of the people in the swamp, so
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to speak, he has struck me as one of very
few who are genuine.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Steve, help us understand because we're on the outside looking
and we've never been in where you guys are. Help
us understand. Can Cash Patel Dan Bongino? Can these guys?
Can they be frozen out by people who want to
keep things going the way they're going?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
They are?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Are there walls that could be put up that they
won't be able to see around or break through?
Speaker 18 (29:05):
There will be if they allow the status quote to remain.
I mean, there's basically a tried and true concept that
gets applied to any sort of new director who they
get bubble wrapped. You heard Christopher Ray constantly talk about
how he had oversight of the FBI, not really leadership
or even management. They're going to have to resist that temptation.
They're going to have a lot of senior executives who
have been in the agency for the last decade, decad
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and a half, maybe two decades that are at the
Hoover Building. They are going to immediately come around them.
Surround them, try to get them off course, get them
involved in things that are not really mission focused. Well,
why don't you go visit one of the fifty five
field offices and go press the flesh. Why don't you
go film a video for X as opposed to bringing abound,
implementing the real change, the mandate that was sent last
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November during the presidential election, and then with the appointment
of Cash matel and now with Dan Bongino, about bringing
about the major reforms, getting rid of the quota system,
integrated program management, eliminating the intelligence collection entirely from the FBI,
and then rethinking the way that they're doing and bringing
in personnel and actually making merit paramount as opposed to diversity,
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and then bringing about people through the training program that
takes capable and meritorious people and makes some effective investigators
as opposed to being a washout program for people who
never going to pass muster.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
To begin with, Garrett, we are hearing that Cash is
already relocating, if you will, hundreds of FBI employees outside
of DC. Is this, in your mind a good start
something horrific?
Speaker 19 (30:36):
What do you think about this? I think it's a
great start, but get this Jesse right out.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Of the gates.
Speaker 19 (30:41):
After he put that forward, five hundred headed to Alabama,
one thousand heading out to the field because they want
to clear out the DC apparatchic. That absolutely is what
needs to be done. It's a great place to start.
But right away I heard from someone who is in
a position to know the details, said that these people
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are already trying to subvert that order. They said, Oh,
don't worry about it. We're going to we're going to
do what we call paper transfers, and we're going to
make it look like, yes, we're assigned in Alabama now
or wherever else, but in reality, we're going to stay
right here and continue our subversive Marxist ways. And I
forwarded that on to Cash, and you know, I think
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he's preparing a game plan for it already. But these
are the There's going to be a viper around every turn,
and so I think both Dan and Cash have a
tremendous battle ahead of them. And I think it's going
to take, if not the entire Trump administration this time around,
much longer to quote unquote fix the FBI, if it
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even can be fixed.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Steve, I keep hearing things like that from people I
trust who have sources inside the FBI, Can you help
me understand the mentality of the non Marxist types. I
realized that we have a bunch of those in there,
the courtesy Barack Obama and others.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
But is it just run of the middle arrogance? Is
that what it is?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I just could never I don't think I could ever
imagine just saying I don't care.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
What my boss. Once I lie about it, I'll figure
out a way around it. What is it?
Speaker 18 (32:13):
I think it's a combination of two main things. One
is hubris, Like you're citing there, you're told from day
one just how awesome you are.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
If you work for the FBI, you're the.
Speaker 18 (32:21):
Premier law enforcement the agency. You applied for the job,
and fifty thousand other people applied for that exact seat
and you were selected. And then I think it's also
a rather large organization which allows them to compartmentalize your responsibilities,
and you're vetted as a person of integrity, someone who
endeavors to be a professional. You would hope the person
takes it upon themselves to do the best job they
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can do. But then you just have human nature and
you're going to be compartmentalized into a small responsibility and
then just focus on that and say, hey, look is
this legal, ethical, constitutional, Yeah, passes muster. I'm just going
to go ahead and do it. But what's necessary is
if you're a real law enforcement professional, someone who takes
that oath seriously, take the step back and look at
the full mosaic. So anecdotal, but to me, I was
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told to drive someone a January sixth subject who is
going to be arrested with a swat team when a
swat team was unnecessary with someone who's going to cooperate,
And they said, Steve, your only job is to drive
them once they're apprehended, drive them to court.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
That's it.
Speaker 18 (33:15):
You're just uber. And I said to them, look, it's
incumbent on me to take the step back, look at
the entire process and realize, yes, I'm not putting the
zyklon b into the chamber, but I am actually putting
them on the cattle car. So that sort of structure
the way that they can actually compartmentalize your responsibilities and
then leave people sort of in a compromised position and
feeling really good about themselves. All those are cultural aspects
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that need to be corrected, and I think it can
be done really from this week one of Cash, Betail
and Dan BONGI not the.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Help, gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Oh well, you know what I have to ask about
the ATF real quick, Garrett. I'll toss that with you
before I let it go. Cash is apparently going to
head up the ATF. Now, please tell me he's just
gonna end the whole thing.
Speaker 19 (33:56):
What do you make of the while this, I hope
that's the truth, is that he's put there just as
the figure had to dismantle it. And if there are
any necessary components, of which I don't think that there are,
then they can come and fall under the banner of
the FBI, because what do we need all these federal
law enforcement agencies for it? I think we have seen
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enough signs so far early on in this administration that
the goal is to dismantle the government bloat, and the
ATF is certainly a huge piece of that. And one
last thing I want to add, if I canesse, is
way back in the beginning of all this, right around
the time well in Cash's regard, before Steve and I
testified shortly after we were suspended, we were put in
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touch with Cash and his foundation, and he stepped forward
and provided financial support to both Steve and I to
get our families through the holidays. He was castigated and
derided for that, as we were when we testified. But
then even after we testified, Kyle saraff and I know
he's a fellow friend of yours as suspendable to us,
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but Dan Bongino and donated I think five or ten
thousand dollars to the Gifts and Go campaign that was
started for us. And then fast forward a few months later,
Christopher Ray testified that we would potentially be violating federal
law if we were to accept that money. So it
shows that the kindness and generosity of both of these men.
(35:19):
But as I think we all know who've been paying
attention to them over the years, they also have that
tenacity that is needed in these positions to come forward
and bring truth and justice where it is needed. And
so I'm looking forward to it. I wish them both
the best, and if they want to tap us on
the shoulder for some assistance, I think both of us
would be open to it.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, I hope they do. Gentlemen, As always, you're welcome
here anytime. Thank you so much. All right, I have
some thoughts on the whole Russia, Ukraine, Trump, all this
ugliness that's going on right now. Before I get to that,
let me get to this. We have to put our
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money where our morals are.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
We just do.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
This is not something that we can set aside now
that we feel like we're winning.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
No, we have to continue to.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Press and press and press, because only total victory will
work for us.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
That involves the corporate.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
World as well, the AT and ts, the T mobiles,
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one iota. Maybe they'll change this label or that label,
but in the end, they still do what they've always done,
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Speaker 1 (36:56):
We'll be back.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Let's talk really quickly about life, because this will be
about Trump and Zelensky and Ukraine and Russia. But I
want to talk to you really quickly about life. You see,
it's important to always remember what I'm about to say,
no matter what your emotions tell you at the time. Family, friends,
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co workers, employers, employees, anybody you have any kind of
a relationship with. It is perfectly okay to have disagreements
with them, argue with them, maybe even yell at each other,
have a knockdown, drag out. It's perfectly okay as long
as you do it privately, privately. There's a wonderful, wonderful
(37:51):
line from the HBO series John Adams. That's so true.
Benjamin Franklin sitting down with John Adams, who had just
insulted a bunch of a bunch of these politicians types
publicly in front of everybody, and Benjamin Franklin says, why
do you insult them publicly? And John Adams says, I
should have done it privately, And Benjamin Franklin says back
to him, Yes, perfectly acceptable to insult a man privately.
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He might even thank you for it, But you insult
a man publicly. He tends to remember it. Keep your
fights in life with people you know, off of social media,
off of TikTok.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Don't record them. They're not for public consumption.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
And if you want exhibit a of how badly that
can go, let's look at the Russia Ukrainian negotiations.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Trump is doing as he promised he would during the election.
He's trying to bring about an end to that horrible
butchery over there, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of lives lost,
just awful, a three year, disastrous affair. Trump to do this,
to mediate this whole affair. He's got to bring Russia
to the table. He's got to bring Ukraine to the table.
What do you accept? What will you accept that? It's the negotiation?
(38:58):
You get it, I get it.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
This is how most wars end. Zelenski, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I guess maybe believed his own press or something like that,
started to bad mouth Trump.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Not on the phone, We're not talking about He's on
the phone with Trump in the Oval office. Trump, you moron,
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
No, no, not by text message, Trump, what are you
an idiot? He starts running to the television set to
talk about all the things Trump doesn't understand. And Trump
has responded, well, exactly like people respond when you insult
them publicly.
Speaker 20 (39:37):
Think of it a modestly successful comedian president Zolensky talked
the United States of America into spending three hundred and
fifty billion dollars to go into a war that basically
couldn't be one. He refuses have elections. Is slow in
the real Ukrainian Poles. I mean, how can you be
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high with every city is being demolished a dictator without elections.
Zelensky better move fast or he's not going to have
a country left. And Zelensky probably wants to. Maybe he
wants to keep the gravy train going. I don't know
what's the problem. But he hasn't been able. He's very
upset that he wasn't invited. He could have come if
he wanted to, but that he wasn't invited to Saudi Arabia.
But he's been working for three years, has never been
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even meeting so phone calls to stop this war. It's
a horrible thing.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Did you ever hear Donald Trump speak that way about
Zelensky leading up to the election, No you didn't. Did
you hear him speak that way about Selensky immediately after
the election, No you didn't. And so now remember, Zelensky's
entire country is on the line here. What the future
of Ukraine looks like will in large part be determined
by the negotiations that are happening right now, and right now,
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Zelensky is wrong footing the entire country of Ukraine. Why
he couldn't control this, He couldn't shut his freaking mouth
and keep insults private private? How deep is the riff now?
Remember he needs us. Zelensky has no leverage, none, zero.
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Russia has taken and they are holding the territory they
want and Ukraine cannot get them out.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
They've tried, they cannot get them out. How bad is
it now?
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Marco Rubio feels completely comfortable saying this, our secretary of
State saying this publicly.
Speaker 21 (41:27):
I think President Trump is very upset at President Zelensky
in some case rightfully so. I was personally very upset
because we had a conversation with President Zelenski, the vice
president and I the two three of us, and we
discussed this issue about the mineral rights, and he said, sure,
we want to do this deal. It makes all the
sense in the world. The only thing is I need
to run it through my legislative process. They have to
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approve it. I read two days later that Zelenski's out
there saying I rejected the deal. I told him no way,
that we're not doing that. Well, that's not what happened
in that meeting. So you start to get upset by somebody.
We're trying to help these guys. There should be some
level of gratitude here about this. And when you don't
see it, and you see him out there accusing the
president of living in a world of disinformation, that's highly,
very counterproductive. And I don't need to explain to you
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or anybody else. Donald Trump's not President Trump's not the
kind of person that's going to sit there and take that.
He's very transparent. He's going to tell you exactly how
he feels. And he sent the message that he's not
going to get gained here.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
You hear it, You hear the animosity.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Now, at a time where he needs us the most,
he has already completely alienated us. Donald Trump, Rubio, the whole,
the whole gang of diplomats. He's completely wrong footed himself.
And this is not about Sewinsky or Ukraine or Russia.
This is a lesson for all of us, myself included, Keepe.
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Your disagreements private. I know it feels so good to
blash blash your your your wife on Facebook.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Oh my gosh, she screwed up dinner. I know it's fun.
I know it's great. Don't do it? All right?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
All right, light the mood next. All right, it is
time to lighten the mood. And while I am greatly,
greatly enjoying the Trump presidency so far, all kinds of
winning going on, I'll be honest with you, there is
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a small part of me that misses the Joe Biden
the own presidency.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Let me clarify the sound bites. It was what a time.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
For four years we had a president who you didn't
have a mind anymore. He just couldn't even complete a
sentence anyway. But then the vice president she was also
a moron too, who couldn't who couldn't really speak intelligently
about anything.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
And you forget that these people were with us for
four years. And Dome she's gearing.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Up to run for governor of California. Everyone can see it.
Stevie Wonder can see this coming. So of course she
has to go do the politician thing and visit the
spot you visit the location of the LA fires.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
And she did it as only Dome can. It goes
through your mind.
Speaker 18 (44:19):
When you see this, you're here, You're now seeing it
up close.
Speaker 16 (44:24):
It's not only seeing it, Alex. You can smell it.
You can feel it right So it's seeing it with
our eyes and many people have seen it. You all
are covering it. But to literally be on the ground here,
you can smell the smoke that was here. You can
feel the toxicity, frankly, of the environment. You can feel
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the energy of all of the folks who are still
here on the ground.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
I see it wall
Great news out of the FBI.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We will get you prepped for what's happening right now.
We have whistleblowers, FBI types, all kinds of great stuff
happening in this country right now. And I'm right, okay,
before we get into the federal government and getting ourselves
(00:28):
prepared for the times that are coming in media and
other things, I have to do something right off the top,
because Dan Bongino is a friend of mine. I got
the news yesterday when everyone else got the news, Damn Bongino.
Obviously you know who Dan Bongino is. I'm not going
to insult your intelligence, but Secret Service Cop, one of
the biggest shows in the country, has decided to walk
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away from this gig, TV, radio, podcasting, all of that.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
It's like the best job.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
In the World's not even a job what we do here.
He decided to watch away from that and go become
deputy director of the FBI.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It's going to work underneath cash patail.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
And if you're looking for objective coverage of Dan Bongino,
you certainly will not get that here, because, like I said,
he's my friend. I love Dan, and I'm so happy
for him. I'm happy for the country and I'm very
proud of him. That's not a small thing to wave
goodbye to a job and the media, to go walk
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into the doors of the Stazi and start to make changes,
start to do things. It's awesome. What he's doing is awesome.
I'm proud of him. I'm happy for Dan. I'm happy
for us as a country because he is a man
who is going to go in there with a purpose.
He doesn't need that job. He's going to go in
there with a purpose for all the right reasons. And
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that's a good thing. And actually, along those lines, I
wanted to talk to you just about things that are
happening right now and how we should look of these things.
Elon must send a sent this out.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Over the weekend. It was a tweet over the weekend. Quote.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
All federal employees will shortly receive an email requesting to
understand what they got done last week. Failure to respond
will be taken as a resignation.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Okay, Now, before I go on.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
To anything else, let's just pause right there for a moment,
because I realize we have all gone through different things
in our life. We've all lived different lives, different careers.
So let's just stop and let's set all this politics
and all this stuff aside for a moment. Let's talk
about how you respond to certain situations. And I'll say this,
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how you respond to certain situations depends on the situation.
I know that's very profound, but let's put it this way.
Let's say you're a parent. Maybe you are, but let's
say you're a parent, and I'm assuming you love your kids.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I hope you do.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
But let's say you have a son he's going a
little haywire. Now what should be done about that? But
what does that mean, going a little haywire? Well that's
the point. You see, it depends on what we're talking
about when it comes to going a little haywire. One
of my sons went a little haywire and his math
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grade dropped down to a D.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
At one point in time, I had to crack the
whip a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Cut this off, cut that off, do a little more studying. Hey,
maybe we'll help you out with the tutor. Get that
math grade back up. And he did, and everything's fine.
But what if going a little haywire men got hooked
on black tar heroin? But if that's what going a
little haywire meant, well, depending on how bad the situation is,
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that will decide how the response, what the response needs
to be. If your son's math grade drops down to
a D, he may need grounded for a month until
he get things back in order.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
If your son gets hooked.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
On black tar heroin, you may have to take a
sabbatical from your job, snatch him up, drive him up
into the mountains with no way out, put him in
a cabin for a couple months where you will live
off the land until he gets his mind and his
body and his spirit back right. It completely depends on
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how bad things are. Let's come back to the federal
government now.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
It depends.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
On how you view the situation right now with the
federal government. There's a chance you are incorrectly looking at
it like that. And I'll just put this right out there.
If you look at it the way I'm about to describe,
you are dead wrong, dangerously wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
If you look at the federal government.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
As if, yes, it's too big, and they really lost
their minds, and they certainly went crazy under Joe Biden.
But really overall, it's really it's a good organization and
we just need to make some small changes here and
maybe fire a manager or two there, Just a little
nip heered, a little tuck there, and if we just
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make a couple of minor changes, then we'll get this
government back on track.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's it. It was a train, it was on the.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Track, and now it's just a little bit off the tracks.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Just it'll make a.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Minor and jument, we'll get it back on the track.
If that's how you view things in our federal government,
you're dead wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
But also.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
You're not prepared for what is necessary, because here's the reality.
The federal government isn't a little bit off track. It
doesn't need a little nip and it doesn't need a
little tuck. The federal government, after decades and decades and
decades of.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Neglect by us, we have to own some of that.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
And after decades and decades and decades of communist infiltration
as a corrupt, criminal organization that will destroy this country,
cause a civil war or worse if it is not
brought to heal. What we have over us right now
with the bureaucracy in this country, with the unelected bureaucrats,
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three million of them who rule over us, what we
have is a dangerous situation that must be stopped. And
not only must it be stopped, here's the thing, it
has to be stopped in four years.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
We have four years.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
This is the first time we've ever had a Republican
that is this dead set on reforming the federal workforce.
And we have four years to do it. And so
don't hold, not pause for a second. Maybe you're sitting
there saying no, no, we're gonna get jd vance in
at twenty twenty eight. Then we're having Democrats hold on,
hold on.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
One of the most dangerous things you can do. I know,
I've done it many times.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I do it practically every day, is make these long
term predictions about Paul ticks, about the electorate, about how
this election is going to turn out.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
That election is going to turn out.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
We have four years to bring this evil, corrupt, criminal
organization to heal. And it will not be nice. It
will not be polite, it will not be kind. It's
going to involve tears, pain, discomfort. People will lose their jobs,
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people will lose everything, They will have to move, children
will have to change schools.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
It will involve sorrow and sadness.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I don't want to have to move to the mountains
to live in a cabin for two to three months.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I don't want everybody.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I don't want a million people to get fired, but
I don't always get what I want, and neither do you.
When the situation becomes dire enough, then you must do
drastic things or else lose it all. I know things
are going great right now. I'm happy, you're happy, but
they better remain at this pace for four years, because
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we have four years to put Humpty Dumpty back together again,
and after that, if we have failed, we may lose
it all. This is about stealing yourself for what we
deal with right now. Because I saw so many things
about this email from Elon Musk, Well, that's a not
seem unnecessary, that's a little mean. I see these workers
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who are getting fired and doing these puff piece interviews,
and then I see people crying over it.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Hello.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I was a federal worker who had one month left
a per probationary period, and today I was told that
I will be terminated at some point this week.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I'm utterly devastated. I'm confused because my recent performance evaluation
was exceptional and I got upwards of fifteen hundred dollars
as a bonus because my performance was so good, and.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
This was my dream job, and it's just being taken
away way by an administration who doesn't care about science.
It doesn't care about people who might be homeless with
their dog.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Now, they don't care about our species that we're trying
to conserve. That's exactly what my job was doing. It
was just to assess habitat conservation for species for a
fifty five year habitat conservation plan. We should all be
so mad right now.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
We should all be crying like this because I'm just devastated.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I'm not crying because I know what has to be done,
even if in my heart I feel some sympathy for
that filthy communist.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I understand what has to be done.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And you are going to be and you, frankly already
are You are going to be drowning in these sob stories.
They're running montages of this stuff on MSNBC.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
And I served as the Chief of Safety in emergency
Management at the Philadelphia VA. This was an critical role
that ensure the health and safety of all those who
entered into our facilities.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
I used to be a NEPA coordinator for the Wrangel
Ranger District of the USDA. Forest Service, where I would
coordinate environmental review for projects in and around the town
of Wrangel, projects that are crucial to the town's economy
and its people.
Speaker 8 (10:22):
I'm moved from Alabama to Maryland to start my new
job in genemics education and Outreach at the National Institutes
of Health. My job was to help educate students, teachers,
and help your providers about genomics to improve patient care
and develop the future scientific workforce.
Speaker 9 (10:38):
As the only aquatic ecollegist at the largest reservoir in
the United States, my job was mostly to monitor for
water quality for recreational uses, making sure that when people
are outvoting or swimming, that the water quality is sufficient
to keep people healthy.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
This propaganda is going to continue because it's aimed at
your heart. Because remember, as we've said so many times before,
one of the two foundational pillars of American communism is
making sure you pay for their activism. You pay for
all of it. They worm their way into the government,
they stay there forever. They suck up your taxpayer dollars,
(11:16):
and they use it to abuse you without end. And
you cannot reform a corrupt criminal organization with three million
employees without pay without unemployment, without your dog, without having
to move.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Without things like that.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I know you may very well be tempted, in that
wonderful heart of yours to back off. Hey, maybe we're
going too far. Hey, we don't have to be mean
about it. No, no, no, no, no no. Your son
didn't get a d in math. Your son's hooked on
black tar heroin. It's time to go to the mountains.
All that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am
(11:53):
right now something that makes me incredibly comfortable. Joy Reid
got fired, useless piece of trash he is, so I
figure we might as well have Curtis. How can Brionna
lyman On to show up and spike the football on that?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
We'll get to that in just a moment.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Before we get to that, let's talk about how you
sleep at night.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You toss and turn, I have to get up to
pee in the middle of the night, and then you
feel it the next day. Don't you kind of grog
it because you can't sleep through the night? Dream powder
from beam.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You don't have you.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Sleeping through the night seven eight nine hours. However much
time you have natural sleep because it's a cup of
hot chocolate with natural things in it.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
It's delicious and.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
You will go sleep like a little bitty baby every
night without the tossing, the turning, the peeing. Shopbeam dot
com slash Jesse Kelly, We'll be back.
Speaker 10 (13:01):
My show had value, whether it was the Black Lives
Matter issues we need to understand sixteen nineteen as the
real founding of this country, whether it's talking about Gaza
and the fact that we as the American people have
a right to object, to have a right to object
to little babies being bond. Those things are of God.
(13:22):
And you know, I'm a church girl too, and those
are the things that I was taught were of God.
And so I'm not sorry. I'm just proud of my show.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, there's no show to be proud of anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
The readout Joy Reid's show on MSNBC has officially gotten
the old hook, and so joining me now to I
don't know, celebrate, just discuss.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
The whole media landscape.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
As my friend Curtis House, managing editor of NewsBusters and
Breonna Lyman with the Federalist, wonderful correspondent for the Federalists. Okay, Curtis,
everyone's out there screaming that Joyanne Reid got fired because
she's dumb or Joyne Reid got fired because she's a communist,
And of course she's all those things in many other things.
But everyone on MSNBC is a dumb communist. That doesn't
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get you fired. So why did she get fired?
Speaker 11 (14:12):
Yeah, well she lost half of her ratings since the election.
I mean, that's really impressive, and I should remind folks
that she didn't even just get this job solely based
on merit.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
She was given this.
Speaker 11 (14:24):
Job as a DEI hire because Chris Matthews made some
woman feel uncomfortable a few years ago, so they metuned
him off the stage, and instead of give it to
someone who actually knows politics, even if he is a lefty,
they gave it to somebody like this, the biggest racial
arsonist on the planet, an evil woman, one of the
people I would say Jesse actually believes the things that
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she is saying. A lot of these folks, at least
a few of them, I can tell you personally, probably
don't believe a lot of the things they're saying, or
at least, you know, don't genuinely think we're the enemy,
where she actually does. So to see her booted I
think is a good thing for America.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Brianna, I can't help but notice the things are rough
in the corporate media world now. Anyway, we have all
these anchors that are leaving, Lester Holds leaving. You're talking
about NBC in the tank for thirty mil because of
something some dumb host said.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
What happened?
Speaker 12 (15:21):
Yeah, this was a crazy story.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
You know.
Speaker 12 (15:23):
Back in twenty twenty, if we remember, there was that
Ice Attention facility in Georgia, and there was a doctor
and I can't pronounce his name, but doctor Amin who
performed two, just two hysterectomies, and there was a whistleblower
complaint that NBC Universal just ate up. They took that
as fact, and they reported that this doctor was a
collector of uteruses. They were trying to sneer and malign
(15:44):
and demean him, and he sued them for slander by saying, look,
Ice approved these two hysterectomies. These women signed consent forms
to say I will get a hysterectomy, but that didn't
matter to NBC Universal. And in fact, during discovery process,
it was found that even the execuscutives at NBC Universal said,
I don't know if this story is actually pretty accurate,
it seems like there's a lot of big holes in it,
(16:06):
and they still publish it anyway. So they finally settled
this case. Doctor Minn was looking for thirty million dollars.
It's not clear if that's what he got in the
settlement yet, but that's what he was seeking. So he
definitely got a few bucks out of NBC Universal. And
it is an indictment that the propaganda press is losing
the power it once had.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, they sure are.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Curtis, what do you make of the turnover, because, like
I said, it's not just Joanne Reid and Chad Bunschem.
Is this just all about money? Are these places? Are
they all losing their writings.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
And they're trying to find the younger, cheaper option.
Speaker 11 (16:37):
If you will, Yeah, I mean I definitely think it
is cost Hoda Kopy did not leave the Today Show
Jesse out of the goodness of her heart because she
said she had to give more of her time pie
to her children. No, it's because you don't. They've realized
that twenty million dollars a year for these people is
not going to fly. For some reason, ABC's dumb enough
to think David Mure, who is the English comprehension of
(16:59):
an elementary school student, is still worth giving money to,
you know, Monday Afternoon MSNBC reportedly also got rid of
Katie fang Aman Moheden the Hamas apologist. Maybe he can
go back to Al Jazeera or something. And Jonathan ka
Part the gay Washington Post guy, so he still has
PBS going for him until we defund that as well.
(17:20):
So it definitely is about turnover, except with very few
asterisks like David Mure and Rachel Maddow. As you just
saw there, she's still getting her twenty million dollars to
host one day a week.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Jeez, one day away.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
So last week, I think it was last week, we
got this clipper of Margaret Brennan CNCBS. That is it's
it's astounding, but at the same time, it's how these
people view the world.
Speaker 13 (17:48):
Here was well, he was standing in a country where
free speech was weaponized to kentuct a genocide, and he
met with the head of a political party that has
far right views and some historic ties to extreme groups.
The context of that was changing the tone of it.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
And you know that, Brianna.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
The communists in this country are so broken that they've
now convinced themselves that the Holocaust happened because of free speech.
Speaker 12 (18:25):
Yes, the Holocaust happened because of free speech in a
country at a time when the Nazis actually did not
allow free speech. But somehow it was free speech. And
this is not just a slip of the tongue. It
wasn't an accidental insulting comment. That our assertion that she
made this was deliberate, right, because Margaret Brennan, like the
rest of these members of the propaganda press, see themselves
as propagandists. And one way that they work for the
(18:46):
totalitarian regime such as under the Biden Harris administration, is
they want to convince Americans to see their right to
having free speech.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Democrats would do.
Speaker 12 (18:55):
Far less, you know, well in elections if censorship was permissible,
right to Murphy or Biden, you know the Murphy case
of the Supreme Court, Murphy being Missouri. The Biden administration tried,
you know, hand over fist to try and squash free
speech and censorship and make it permissible in this country
to censor markets because of true but inconvenient free speech.
(19:18):
And so when you have mouth pieces like Margaret Brennan
getting on, you know, national media and trying to say that, yeah,
free speech is kind of dangerous. It is an attempt
to sway the general public to questioning whether they deserve
the right to free speech.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Speaking of which, Ihan Omar had a little exchange with
some Madi Hassan, some idiot on TV, and here's what
she said.
Speaker 14 (19:42):
These these people are just idiots. I really, you know,
I'm at the point where it's become really hard to
have an intellectual debate with any of these people because
the level of stupidity that they are displaying every single
day is frankly embarrassing, not just in Congress but as Americans.
And the fact that these people are allowed to say
(20:04):
just the most ridiculous things tells you that the dumbing
of the United States has arrived, because how else do
we get Trump presidency.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Again, There's a lot you can take from that segment,
but honestly, the part that always stood out to be
curtis is the allowed the fact that they're allowed to
say these things. They can't help themselves, can they.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
There's just a tyrant.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
If you just scratch the surface a little bit, one,
it will smell and two there's a tyrant under there.
Speaker 11 (20:36):
Yeah, and she's also proof that you can just say
a whole lot of things without actually really having said
anything to be agin with. I think this goes to
between this and the previous clip with Frianna there is
the Left doesn't want to have a genuine battle of ideas.
We see this with elections in Europe. They want to
outlaw certain parties. They want to outlaw certain forms of media.
(20:58):
In Canada, they want to double the funny for the
CBC or something out of national security. They don't want
to win a debate on merits. They don't want to
win hearts and minds because they much rather do it
by reading the system, by silencing dissent and then forcing
their views upon we the people, instead of genuinely convincing
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them that their way is the best way. They don't
want to have an actual discussion about, you know, which
way do we want to go as a country, which
way do we want to go as a society, because
that's just too much work for them.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Finally, we have to talk about my new favorite democrat.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I just adored her so much, Jasmin Crockett.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Every time you turn onto television, her fat stupid face
is on there saying something dumb here she is.
Speaker 15 (21:45):
He's been the one to call it out. The fact
that I'm rooting for Canada and I'm rooting for Mexico
a lot is really wild. But they are really the
ones that are speaking in truth to power right now.
They can see what it is and they were like,
we are not missing with this crazy regime from Mary
and basically calling them thugs.
Speaker 16 (22:02):
That's what it is.
Speaker 15 (22:03):
But I'm like, y'all knew who he was when y'all
elected him, So don't act surprise, Brianna.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I am a little surprised that a party that is
controlled as a Democrat party is is letting her run
wild and make the GOP midterm ads for them every
single day.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
What is going on here?
Speaker 10 (22:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (22:22):
You know, Sam Adams once said that the colonists know
what is designed against them, and he was talking about
they understand that the British government was designed to suppress
their liberties and trample on their rights. People understand that
Democrats are designed against the American people. Right now. This
isn't the Democratic Party of you know, sixty years ago.
This is a Democratic Party of twenty twenty four that
doesn't want Americans to have rights that actively cheers on
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countries that are sending rapists, murderers, drugs that are killing
hundreds of thousands of Americans and they're supporting them. She
said something stupid last week as well, she said, we're
not on the business of giving money away, right because
she didn't want to give taxpayer DOJE refunds.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Is not giving money.
Speaker 12 (23:00):
Wait, it's giving money back to taxpayers because of radical
pet projects by people like you and the Democratic Party
who are stealing them. So if they want to keep
trotting her out there, that's great. Like you said, it's
good for the midterms for Republicans, but this is the
ethos of the Democratic Party right.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Now, both of you appreciate you. Come back soon. All right.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
We have a new Deputy Director of the FBI, Dan Bongino,
as we talked about in the open. We have a
couple FBI whistle blowers, Steve and Garrett, going to join
us next. What do they think about all this? They
do them back flips before we get to that. We
talked a lot about putting our money where our morals are.
And you know, I'm not a big jewelry guy. Things
(23:44):
like that it's just not what I do. I had
the same watch for ten fifteen years. I finally bought
a new one. Why Well, honestly, it's not just the
fact that Wasson Watch is run by the United States Marine.
It's the fact that they boldly and publicly speak out
(24:07):
on our behalf. They weigh into cultural issues. The first
time I came across Wasson Watch, I'm looking at this
watch and I thought, Wow, that's beautiful, and then I look,
they're advocating on behalf of the unborn unapologetically.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
That is the kind of company I support.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
And as I said, second I saw it, I don't
remember where I bought my last watch, and I truly don't,
but I know exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Where I'm buying my next one. Wasson Watch.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Go look at their amazing watches and support a company
that shares and promotes your values. And keep in mind
you get ten percent off Wassonwatch dot com code Jesse
gets you ten percent off. Go get a Wasson Watch
and put your money where your morals are.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
We'll be back.
Speaker 17 (25:04):
To the Senators and the men and women of the
United States House of Representatives. You placed an enormous trust
in me an enormous leap of faith, one that I
didn't know that I could possibly earn back. But I'm
going to spend every single day on this job doing so.
The fact that you place the confidence you did in
me has inspired me to reach new heights at this job.
(25:24):
I promised you the following there will be accountability within
the FBI and outside of the FBI, and we will
do it through rigorous constitutional oversights starting this weekend.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, I like it. I bet you.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I don't like it as much as Steve and Garrett
like it, but I like it quite a bit. Joining
me now the brave FBI whistleblowers who spoke out before
it was comfortable and easy to do so. Garrett o'boyle's
Steve friend. Okay, Steve, let's start. Oh, by the way,
co hosts of the American Radicals podcast, So I would
highly recommend, Hey, Steve, first reaction, Cash Battel gets in there.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Do you feel vindicated? Relieved? Are you still apprehensive? Where
you at?
Speaker 18 (26:12):
I'd say it cautiously optimistic. If I've learned anything over
the last two and a half years. You don't get
too excited, you don't get too down. These things are
always sort of influx. But when you see the remarks
that Cash made there at his speech there after he
gets sworn in as the FBI director, I'm very enthused
about that because one of the big drums that I've
been beating for the last two and a half years
is how the FBI has gotten away from its prime directive.
(26:34):
The prime directive to follow the process, which is rigorous
obedience to the Constitution, adherence to the rule of law,
respect for civil rights, not concerned with the outcome. You
gather the facts, you present them, and then with the
fact support a conviction, that's the facts. If they don't,
that's the fact. That's not on you. Unfortunately, though, over
the last four years, we've seen the FBI get away
(26:55):
from that and they're really concerned about the outcome. They
put their thumb, if not their entire arm on the
ski and that is not keeping with the way that
we historically do law enforcement in this country.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Garrett, we all saw the news yesterday that Dan Bongino
is going to be deputy director. Obviously, depends on who
you are and how you look at life. Some people
are doing backflips today. Some people are spiking to find
china off the kitchen floor. What's happening in the old
Boyle household?
Speaker 19 (27:23):
Similar to Steve, you know, I think so Steve just
hit his twenty nine month suspend aversary.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Mine's coming up here in two days.
Speaker 19 (27:33):
So we have learned to try and just remain even
and it's difficult. My wife was saying last night, you
know that I can't imagine what you're going through to me,
and I'm like, wait, this is this affects you equally too,
And also already hearing from people in the FBI, most
of which are excited for this, for this duo of
(27:56):
Cash and Dan, and I think though, there's going to
be a learning curve for both. Neither have much experience
with or certainly in the FBI, so they're going to
have to work hard to surround themselves with people who
understand the bureau and can help them implement and make.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Positive change to the agency.
Speaker 19 (28:14):
And so the learning curve is a bit steep, I think,
but at least we know we have two people who
are truly seeking to do the right thing. As Steve mentioned,
with Cash's speech, that's what you get with Cash Battel.
He didn't have prepared remarks he spoke from the heart.
All my interactions with him have been that way, and
out of all of the people in the swamp, so
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to speak, he has struck me as one of very
few who are genuine.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Steve, help us understand because we're on the outside looking
and we've never been in where you guys are. Help
us understand. Can Cash Patel Dan Bongino? Can these guys?
Can they be frozen out by people who want to
keep things going the way they're going?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
They are?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Are there walls that could be put up that they
won't be able to see around or break through?
Speaker 18 (29:05):
There will be if they allow the status quote to remain.
I mean, there's basically a tried and true concept that
gets applied to any sort of new director who they
get bubble wrapped. You heard Christopher Ray constantly talk about
how he had oversight of the FBI, not really leadership
or even management. They're going to have to resist that temptation.
They're going to have a lot of senior executives who
have been in the agency for the last decade, decad
(29:28):
and a half, maybe two decades that are at the
Hoover Building. They are going to immediately come around them.
Surround them, try to get them off course, get them
involved in things that are not really mission focused. Well,
why don't you go visit one of the fifty five
field offices and go press the flesh. Why don't you
go film a video for X as opposed to bringing abound,
implementing the real change, the mandate that was sent last
(29:49):
November during the presidential election, and then with the appointment
of Cash matel and now with Dan Bongino, about bringing
about the major reforms, getting rid of the quota system,
integrated program management, eliminating the intelligence collection entirely from the FBI,
and then rethinking the way that they're doing and bringing
in personnel and actually making merit paramount as opposed to diversity,
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and then bringing about people through the training program that
takes capable and meritorious people and makes some effective investigators
as opposed to being a washout program for people who
never going to pass muster.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
To begin with, Garrett, we are hearing that Cash is
already relocating, if you will, hundreds of FBI employees outside
of DC. Is this, in your mind a good start
something horrific?
Speaker 19 (30:36):
What do you think about this? I think it's a
great start, but get this Jesse right out.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Of the gates.
Speaker 19 (30:41):
After he put that forward, five hundred headed to Alabama,
one thousand heading out to the field because they want
to clear out the DC apparatchic. That absolutely is what
needs to be done. It's a great place to start.
But right away I heard from someone who is in
a position to know the details, said that these people
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are already trying to subvert that order. They said, Oh,
don't worry about it. We're going to we're going to
do what we call paper transfers, and we're going to
make it look like, yes, we're assigned in Alabama now
or wherever else, but in reality, we're going to stay
right here and continue our subversive Marxist ways. And I
forwarded that on to Cash, and you know, I think
(31:23):
he's preparing a game plan for it already. But these
are the There's going to be a viper around every turn,
and so I think both Dan and Cash have a
tremendous battle ahead of them. And I think it's going
to take, if not the entire Trump administration this time around,
much longer to quote unquote fix the FBI, if it
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even can be fixed.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Steve, I keep hearing things like that from people I
trust who have sources inside the FBI, Can you help
me understand the mentality of the non Marxist types. I
realized that we have a bunch of those in there,
the courtesy Barack Obama and others.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
But is it just run of the middle arrogance? Is
that what it is?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I just could never I don't think I could ever
imagine just saying I don't care.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
What my boss. Once I lie about it, I'll figure
out a way around it. What is it?
Speaker 18 (32:13):
I think it's a combination of two main things. One
is hubris, Like you're citing there, you're told from day
one just how awesome you are.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
If you work for the FBI, you're the.
Speaker 18 (32:21):
Premier law enforcement the agency. You applied for the job,
and fifty thousand other people applied for that exact seat
and you were selected. And then I think it's also
a rather large organization which allows them to compartmentalize your responsibilities,
and you're vetted as a person of integrity, someone who
endeavors to be a professional. You would hope the person
takes it upon themselves to do the best job they
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can do. But then you just have human nature and
you're going to be compartmentalized into a small responsibility and
then just focus on that and say, hey, look is
this legal, ethical, constitutional, Yeah, passes muster. I'm just going
to go ahead and do it. But what's necessary is
if you're a real law enforcement professional, someone who takes
that oath seriously, take the step back and look at
the full mosaic. So anecdotal, but to me, I was
(33:04):
told to drive someone a January sixth subject who is
going to be arrested with a swat team when a
swat team was unnecessary with someone who's going to cooperate,
And they said, Steve, your only job is to drive
them once they're apprehended, drive them to court.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
That's it.
Speaker 18 (33:15):
You're just uber. And I said to them, look, it's
incumbent on me to take the step back, look at
the entire process and realize, yes, I'm not putting the
zyklon b into the chamber, but I am actually putting
them on the cattle car. So that sort of structure
the way that they can actually compartmentalize your responsibilities and
then leave people sort of in a compromised position and
feeling really good about themselves. All those are cultural aspects
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that need to be corrected, and I think it can
be done really from this week one of Cash, Betail
and Dan BONGI not the.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Help, gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Oh well, you know what I have to ask about
the ATF real quick, Garrett. I'll toss that with you
before I let it go. Cash is apparently going to
head up the ATF. Now, please tell me he's just
gonna end the whole thing.
Speaker 19 (33:56):
What do you make of the while this, I hope
that's the truth, is that he's put there just as
the figure had to dismantle it. And if there are
any necessary components, of which I don't think that there are,
then they can come and fall under the banner of
the FBI, because what do we need all these federal
law enforcement agencies for it? I think we have seen
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enough signs so far early on in this administration that
the goal is to dismantle the government bloat, and the
ATF is certainly a huge piece of that. And one
last thing I want to add, if I canesse, is
way back in the beginning of all this, right around
the time well in Cash's regard, before Steve and I
testified shortly after we were suspended, we were put in
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touch with Cash and his foundation, and he stepped forward
and provided financial support to both Steve and I to
get our families through the holidays. He was castigated and
derided for that, as we were when we testified. But
then even after we testified, Kyle saraff and I know
he's a fellow friend of yours as suspendable to us,
(34:58):
but Dan Bongino and donated I think five or ten
thousand dollars to the Gifts and Go campaign that was
started for us. And then fast forward a few months later,
Christopher Ray testified that we would potentially be violating federal
law if we were to accept that money. So it
shows that the kindness and generosity of both of these men.
(35:19):
But as I think we all know who've been paying
attention to them over the years, they also have that
tenacity that is needed in these positions to come forward
and bring truth and justice where it is needed. And
so I'm looking forward to it. I wish them both
the best, and if they want to tap us on
the shoulder for some assistance, I think both of us
would be open to it.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, I hope they do. Gentlemen, As always, you're welcome
here anytime. Thank you so much. All right, I have
some thoughts on the whole Russia, Ukraine, Trump, all this
ugliness that's going on right now. Before I get to that,
let me get to this. We have to put our
(36:00):
money where our morals are.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
We just do.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
This is not something that we can set aside now
that we feel like we're winning.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
No, we have to continue to.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Press and press and press, because only total victory will
work for us.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
That involves the corporate.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
World as well, the AT and ts, the T mobiles,
the verizons of the world. They haven't changed their ways
one iota. Maybe they'll change this label or that label,
but in the end, they still do what they've always done,
and that's dump all over us. Switch your cell phone
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Speaker 1 (36:50):
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Speaker 2 (36:52):
Pure talk dot com slash JESSETV.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
We'll be back.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Let's talk really quickly about life, because this will be
about Trump and Zelensky and Ukraine and Russia. But I
want to talk to you really quickly about life. You see,
it's important to always remember what I'm about to say,
no matter what your emotions tell you at the time. Family, friends,
(37:25):
co workers, employers, employees, anybody you have any kind of
a relationship with. It is perfectly okay to have disagreements
with them, argue with them, maybe even yell at each other,
have a knockdown, drag out. It's perfectly okay as long
as you do it privately, privately. There's a wonderful, wonderful
(37:51):
line from the HBO series John Adams. That's so true.
Benjamin Franklin sitting down with John Adams, who had just
insulted a bunch of a bunch of these politicians types
publicly in front of everybody, and Benjamin Franklin says, why
do you insult them publicly? And John Adams says, I
should have done it privately, And Benjamin Franklin says back
to him, Yes, perfectly acceptable to insult a man privately.
(38:13):
He might even thank you for it, But you insult
a man publicly. He tends to remember it. Keep your
fights in life with people you know, off of social media,
off of TikTok.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Don't record them. They're not for public consumption.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
And if you want exhibit a of how badly that
can go, let's look at the Russia Ukrainian negotiations.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Trump is doing as he promised he would during the election.
He's trying to bring about an end to that horrible
butchery over there, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of lives lost,
just awful, a three year, disastrous affair. Trump to do this,
to mediate this whole affair. He's got to bring Russia
to the table. He's got to bring Ukraine to the table.
What do you accept? What will you accept that? It's the negotiation?
(38:58):
You get it, I get it.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
This is how most wars end. Zelenski, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I guess maybe believed his own press or something like that,
started to bad mouth Trump.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Not on the phone, We're not talking about He's on
the phone with Trump in the Oval office. Trump, you moron,
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
No, no, not by text message, Trump, what are you
an idiot? He starts running to the television set to
talk about all the things Trump doesn't understand. And Trump
has responded, well, exactly like people respond when you insult
them publicly.
Speaker 20 (39:37):
Think of it a modestly successful comedian president Zolensky talked
the United States of America into spending three hundred and
fifty billion dollars to go into a war that basically
couldn't be one. He refuses have elections. Is slow in
the real Ukrainian Poles. I mean, how can you be
(39:58):
high with every city is being demolished a dictator without elections.
Zelensky better move fast or he's not going to have
a country left. And Zelensky probably wants to. Maybe he
wants to keep the gravy train going. I don't know
what's the problem. But he hasn't been able. He's very
upset that he wasn't invited. He could have come if
he wanted to, but that he wasn't invited to Saudi Arabia.
But he's been working for three years, has never been
(40:20):
even meeting so phone calls to stop this war. It's
a horrible thing.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Did you ever hear Donald Trump speak that way about
Zelensky leading up to the election, No you didn't. Did
you hear him speak that way about Selensky immediately after
the election, No you didn't. And so now remember, Zelensky's
entire country is on the line here. What the future
of Ukraine looks like will in large part be determined
by the negotiations that are happening right now, and right now,
(40:48):
Zelensky is wrong footing the entire country of Ukraine. Why
he couldn't control this, He couldn't shut his freaking mouth
and keep insults private private? How deep is the riff now?
Remember he needs us. Zelensky has no leverage, none, zero.
(41:11):
Russia has taken and they are holding the territory they
want and Ukraine cannot get them out.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
They've tried, they cannot get them out. How bad is
it now?
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Marco Rubio feels completely comfortable saying this, our secretary of
State saying this publicly.
Speaker 21 (41:27):
I think President Trump is very upset at President Zelensky
in some case rightfully so. I was personally very upset
because we had a conversation with President Zelenski, the vice
president and I the two three of us, and we
discussed this issue about the mineral rights, and he said, sure,
we want to do this deal. It makes all the
sense in the world. The only thing is I need
to run it through my legislative process. They have to
(41:49):
approve it. I read two days later that Zelenski's out
there saying I rejected the deal. I told him no way,
that we're not doing that. Well, that's not what happened
in that meeting. So you start to get upset by somebody.
We're trying to help these guys. There should be some
level of gratitude here about this. And when you don't
see it, and you see him out there accusing the
president of living in a world of disinformation, that's highly,
very counterproductive. And I don't need to explain to you
(42:10):
or anybody else. Donald Trump's not President Trump's not the
kind of person that's going to sit there and take that.
He's very transparent. He's going to tell you exactly how
he feels. And he sent the message that he's not
going to get gained here.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
You hear it, You hear the animosity.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Now, at a time where he needs us the most,
he has already completely alienated us. Donald Trump, Rubio, the whole,
the whole gang of diplomats. He's completely wrong footed himself.
And this is not about Sewinsky or Ukraine or Russia.
This is a lesson for all of us, myself included, Keepe.
(42:47):
Your disagreements private. I know it feels so good to
blash blash your your your wife on Facebook.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Oh my gosh, she screwed up dinner. I know it's fun.
I know it's great. Don't do it? All right?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
All right, light the mood next. All right, it is
time to lighten the mood. And while I am greatly,
greatly enjoying the Trump presidency so far, all kinds of
winning going on, I'll be honest with you, there is
(43:27):
a small part of me that misses the Joe Biden
the own presidency.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Let me clarify the sound bites. It was what a time.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
For four years we had a president who you didn't
have a mind anymore. He just couldn't even complete a
sentence anyway. But then the vice president she was also
a moron too, who couldn't who couldn't really speak intelligently
about anything.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
And you forget that these people were with us for
four years. And Dome she's gearing.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Up to run for governor of California. Everyone can see it.
Stevie Wonder can see this coming. So of course she
has to go do the politician thing and visit the
spot you visit the location of the LA fires.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
And she did it as only Dome can. It goes
through your mind.
Speaker 18 (44:19):
When you see this, you're here, You're now seeing it
up close.
Speaker 16 (44:24):
It's not only seeing it, Alex. You can smell it.
You can feel it right So it's seeing it with
our eyes and many people have seen it. You all
are covering it. But to literally be on the ground here,
you can smell the smoke that was here. You can
feel the toxicity, frankly, of the environment. You can feel
(44:50):
the energy of all of the folks who are still
here on the ground.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
I see it wall
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