March 12, 2025 • 37 mins
Sending your men off to die in a miserable hellscape while you go on vacation. Wrapping up the Crimean war. British medical tents in the 1850s. Storming the fort at Sevastopol. Why hasn’t Russia signed the ceasefire yet?
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on
a wonderful, wonderful hump day. And I am just so
exciting about everything going on right now. Freedom is not free.
And now it's time to pause all the politics in
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the Ukraine and the tariffs and they're tearing down the air,
the Amazon rainforest and everything else going on, because well,
now it's time for our third and final installment of
the Crimean War. If you missed the first two, go
download yesterday's podcast of the day beforehand iHeart Spotify iTunes,
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where we're just talking about the war that nobody seems
to know anything about, but we thought it would be
uniquely beneficial to have some idea of the history of
that region, the northern part of the Black Sea, the
Crimean region, Sevastopol, these these resource rich areas, Russia and
their warm water fleet, the Black Fleet, let's talk about it.
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So again. I'm not going to recap it all for you.
I can't possibly do that. But the one minute version
is Russia. This is the middle of the eighteen hundreds
eighteen fifties, Russia. Czar decides this Ottoman Empire. They're kind
of old and brittle. I think I'll take Constantinople. Britain, France.
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They don't want Russia to take Constantinople, and the Ottomans,
of course don't want Russia to take Constantinople. So they
sail this huge force down up the Dardanelles past Constantinople
Istanbul and now they are currently laying siege to the
city that is still very much there, Savasa the poll.
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The French are separate from the British, even though they're
fighting on the same side. They're entrenched outside of the city.
We're talking civil war type weapons to give you a
frame of reference, muskets, bayonets, cannons, things like that, and
it's ugly fighting. I told you yesterday about the charge
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of the Light Brigade. The Russians kept sallying forth to attack.
During one attack, they attacked in the fog. Then there
are fascinating accounts you can go read the letters today
of the Brits were sitting there. They thought they heard something,
but they couldn't really tell. And from the dense fog
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emerged lines of Russian troops with bayonets attached, and people
start dying in sword fights and bayonet fights. How dysfunctional
is it. The French army actually during this attack says hey,
you want us, come help, and the Brits are all, no,
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we don't want your help. Again. The French and the
Brits they don't care for each other much, that kind
of thing. The French actually did jump in anyway without permission.
But the situation is ugly. It's a siege. It's a
long siege, and sieges are ugly things. So let's discuss
the situation on both sides at this point. Hand hint.
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At this point, the Russians are supplied quite well. You know,
I told you, Remember I told you Tolstoy, the guy
who wrote the book War and Piece. Everyone's heard of
the book. I've never read it, so don't feel like
some kind of dummy if you've never read it. I've
never read it. Oh, I know, Chris is supposed to
be way too many words. It's really really long. Anyway. Tolstoi,
he was the author. He was here fighting for the Russians,
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he was in Sebastopol. The Russians were so well supplied
with the Brits in the French parked outside that he
taught at one point in time, about what a wonderful
time he's having, about how this is just great. The
whole thing just kind of seemed like a really fun adventure.
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But why are the Russians supplied so well, well, remember
what we always do to help tell our history story.
We go to a map, look up the Black Sea.
The easiest way to do this Black Sea. Okay, you
see it, I know you see Sevastopol. It's that big
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piece of land and the northern part of the Black
Sea it's sticking out. Can't miss it. That's Sevastopol. Well,
that's Crimea. But the city Sevastopol is there. That's the
Crimean Peninsula. I might point out now if you're driving,
don't worry about it. To the northeast of it. You
see that little thing, the little blue the Sea of
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asof Azov, the Sea of Asov, the Sea of Asov.
That was the supply route where the Russians were getting
all their goodies, all the food, all the troop reinforcements
they needed. That's why guys like toll Story were sitting
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there in the city eating well, drinking wine. Got all
the bullets you need. A nice winter coat. Life is
good for the Russians at this time, for the Brits
not so much. Now we need to talk about this
because it's one of those things that it's important to
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remember always. Logistics matter. We talked about it last night.
The French were more ready to fight a fight like
this because they'd been fighting and they learned the necessity
of having a field ambulance, having great medical people, making
sure there's clean sheets, like basic boring things that you
don't think about. The Brits were so lost in this regard,
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and the fighting was extra extra terrible. Have you ever
seen Have you ever seen a picture I'm not recommending
it to you, depending on how old you are, of
a hospital, a field hospital during the Civil War, of
the missing limbs outside. You've seen it. I know Chris
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has seen it. Yeah, you're a sick o. Chris. Look,
I've seen it as well. There are pictures online. You
can go look at them. Kids asked mom and dad first, please,
but you can go look at them. There's just a
Civil War field hospital and there are just feet and legs,
and you see these guys they're always pictured and they're
missing legs and they're missing arms. Well, I brought it
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up yesterday. The advancements in technology, the advancements and cannons
and mortars and exploding shells. What we're encountering here is
extra horrific for a couple of different reasons. One, these weapons,
they're better, bigger, more powerful than weapons had ever been
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before in the history of combat. That's one. And two
because this is really the first major war where there
are pictures where you can see these things. The young
brave British boys and French boys and Russians. To be honest,
but the young brave British boys who went down and
signed up for glory in adventure, they didn't necessarily understand
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what they were signing up for. And it's not that
it's fun to get in a sword fight on horseback.
I'm not saying that would be a real good time.
But when you're a seventeen eighteen year old boy in
Britain and you want to go do your duty and
serve your country and make your dad proud, you're not
marching down to the station thinking you're going to come
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home without legs. But many of them came home without legs.
The wounds are terrible, the weapons are terrible, and the
medical situation is something to discuss. Because I brought up
Florence Nightingale, that famous nurse, last night. Why was she beckoned? Well,
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here's the situation. The real true hospital for these British
troops was not in Sevastopol. It was back in Turkey.
It was back in the Ottoman Empire. It was not
at all unusual for you to get wounded severely and
not have real medical care for a month or more.
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Imagine marching off to war. This is a true story.
I'm sorry, this is gonna be a little gross, say
for kids, but it's still gross. Imagine marching off to war,
charging the Russian lines, getting shot through the chest. This
is a true story, getting shot through the chest and
five weeks later you have not been shipped out for
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real medical care and people can scoop the maggots out
of your wound because it is so festered and gross.
This is what the British troops on the ground were
experiencing during the Crimean War. In these stories. Because again
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the modern press, the London Times and these other big papers,
they were there, they started to report these stories back home.
And this is why Florence Nightingale, bless her heart, said, ah,
I need to go down there and help in the
British government. To their credit, they knew they had a
serious problem and they said go. And then she walks
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down into the big nursing facility in the Ottoman Empire
and she's mortified by how dirty it is. There aren't
enough nurses, there's not enough clean sheets, there's not soap,
there's not water. Guys are dying brutally. One guy I
saw his picture. He was missing both of his legs
above his knees. Get this. He had lost his feet
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to frostbite. I'll get to that in a moment. But
how did he lose the rest of his legs. His
medical care was so poor they had to go back
in and amputate both of his legs above the knee
after his feet were lost. That's how terrible this war was.
And no one knows about this. We'll continue on. Maybe
I'll finish. I doubt it, but hopefully soon. Next this
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dot com. Back to the Crimean War again. This is
our third and final part tonight of the Crimean War.
So I just explained the logistical situation for the Brits,
but if you can imagine it, it actually gets worse
from here because winter comes. Now maybe you're thinking, well, yeah,
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hopefully they planned for that. It's freaking Russia. Well, yes
it's Russia, and yes it does get cold in this area,
but not the kind of cold that of course comes
this year, the year they happen to be there. Remember this,
part of the reason this area is so valuable to
this day to the Russians is it's a warm water port.
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This is not the normal frozen hellscape you think of
when you think about Russia in the winter. Winter comes
for the Brits. Remember they're already in trenches and being
able to supply an army by ship is a wonderful thing.
It's an impressive thing. And the British Navy does rule
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the waves. And after this war spoiler alert, they go
on to spread their empire and be powerful until World
War One. They really do. So it's nice. It's nice
when your army's parked down on the shore and oh,
we have more troops on this ship, and more food
on this ship, and oh all of our winter clothes,
forty thousand thick coats are on this ship. It's nice
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until a winter storm comes along and sends it to
the bottom of the ocean. Now you are three thousand
miles without a plane, without powered ships, sailing ships, or
how you get there. Your three thousand miles from home
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in one of the nastier winters this area has seen.
And it sets in as your men are in the
trenches and when it's not freezing cold, with men dying
every single night, it's muddy. So your guys go from
living in the mud to living in the frozen tundra.
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They are now bored, they're dispirited. And this is really
this is really an ugly down part of British military history,
which British military history is really awesome. A lot of
it's really awesome. Everyone has their ups and downs. It's war.
It's ugly. The crimean war is not It's probably not
one I would imagine that's on. It's not a feather
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you're keeping in your cap. If you're a brit and
you're talking about military history. Part of the reason why,
now this really angers me to a great deal. But
they're officers. While the enlisted guys were dying in the trenches,
getting their feet cut off, losing their hands, ears frostbite,
the Russians would routinely, because of the Russians were better
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prepared for the winter, like they always seem to be,
the Russians would infiltrate the lines, drop into your trench,
stab for guys, and go back. It was just a terrible,
ugly affair. The officers kept going back home. The British
officers would go on vacation back home to get warm,
while the enlisted guys stayed there rotting, dying and fighting. Now,
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I can't properly convey to you how quickly that would
destroy the morale of any unit in any country on
the planet we I won't go into the details of
the exact win because I don't need anybody tracking the
guy down. But at one point in my Marine Corps career,
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our company commander was a complete moron, just an absolute idiot,
and everybody knew he was an idiot, and we all
thought the guy was going to get is killed one day.
That's what we thought of him, as soon as we
figured out he was an idiot. And it didn't take
us long. It just sucked the life right out of
our company. It just does it. And I had lions too,
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a couple of lions, a really good platoon commander at
one point, really good company commander at one point, and
your whole company kind of puffs up. Yeah, I'll lay
down in traffic for that guy. Leadership does matter. You
know what it feels like when you're rotting in the trenches,
your foot just turned black, and your company commander hops
on a ship to head back home to hang out
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with his wife and kids for a month. Destroys a unit,
absolutely destroys it. Now, it's not all bad. Oh, it's funny.
You brought that up. Chris just brought up a line.
I don't know who said that line. I think it's old,
but there's an old line that it's better to have
an army of donkeys led by a lion than an
army of lions led by a donkey. You can look
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that up. Someone said it. I don't know whose line
it was. At one point point in time during this battle,
the Brits got close enough to the Russians, the Russians
would essentially use that line on them and said, you're
led by a bunch of donkeys, making fun of them
to their faces. Like I said, it's not a shining
example of British military history by any stretch of the imagination.
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But the Brits, slowly but surely, as controversy mounts back home,
start to get their act together. They actually did get
the troops some winter close, right about the time it
turned hot and winter ended. Yeah, I know it was ugly,
but they were all this time inching closer and closer
and closer to the city itself, to the fortifications of Sevastopol,
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so much so they've built a railway from the water
to the city of Sevastopol. So the Russians are starting
to feel it, and that, of course brings us to
that sea of azof these Russians are fat and happy
now everything they need. How long will that last? We'll
get to that in a moment. Before we get to that,
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trying to finish up part three of our little Crimean
war history thing we've been doing for the past few nights.
So just to answer Jewish producer Chris's question from the break,
he said, refresh my memory, why do they want all this?
Are they? Why are the French in British here? Because
the Russians realized the Ottoman Empire was dying and it
was they decided they wanted Constantinople for themselves. Understandably, they
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marched on it. The Brits and the French who were
highly invented in trade with that place, and you know
they're always competing with each other. You don't ever want
your enemy to seize really the most strategically important city
on the planet then and now. So they marched down there.
And the idea was they wanted to destroy not just
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Russia's fleet in the Black Sea, they wanted to destroy
Sevastopol itself, so Russia really couldn't even build another one
for a long time, destroy their fleet that way, they
can't go down and take Constantinople. And if that's a
little confusing, I'll give you a nerdy naval detail about
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this that you may or may not care about. But
it might help you understand things. Remember, this is the
time period of sale. Yes, there are steamships just getting
rolling now that it's something Britain's to getting good at,
but for the most part, this is still the time
of sale. If you look at a Crimean wore picture
of of the naval armadas, they have sails on them. Well,
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if you look at the Dardenells, that strip of water
right before Istanbul that leads up into the Black Sea,
it takes twice as long because of the winds, currents
and everything else to sail from the Dardennelles up to
Sevastopol as it does to sail from Sevastopol down to
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the Dardenells. The Russians, if they have a fleet there,
can get there overnight quickly, and the others cannot. All Right,
back to our story. So the Brits finally start to
get their supply act together. They're building a railway. This
is a modern powerful country. At this point, you'd probably
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consider them the most powerful country in the world. They're
not going to screw this whole thing up forever. They're
getting logistics figured out right at the time, they're figuring
out how to completely hose the Russian for their logistics.
Where were the Russians getting all their supplies from the
Sea of Azov, right there, northeast of Sevastopol, right northeast
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of the Crimean Peninsula. The Brits figured to themselves, well,
we have this sweet fleet. The Russians don't have a
fleet anymore. They sunk theirs on purpose. Why don't we
just sail our fleet into the Sea of Asov, knock
out some fortifications there and cut them off from supplies.
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And they do. It's pretty sharp military campaign, to be honest.
Not that severing your enemy's supply lines is some act
of brilliance. It's really anything anyone who's ever played risk understands.
But that's what you do. You find your enemy's supply line,
you cut him off, and you starve him to death.
The Brits do it. They do it successfully. Now the
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British army, from three thousand miles away is better supplied
than the Russian army, whose headquarters are two to three
hundred miles away. The Russians start to get weak as
the Allies grow strong. They're starting to build better facilities
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for the troops. No more tense, no more frostbite in
the winter. The Brits, the French, they're getting stronger and stronger.
Then they're thinking to themselves. The Russians, they're starving these people,
they're on their last leg. Guess what anniversaries coming up? Waterloo.
Now I know you don't know the Waterloo anniversary, nor
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do you need to memorize this date, But it's the
eighteenth of June. Okay, the eighteenth of June, and this
is not an important date necessarily for you unless you're
a super duper Napoleon freak. But at this point in
the eighteen fifties, Waterloo meant everything to the British. It
was their big victory over Napoleon and still a sore
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spot for the French. We had it all, we lost
it at Waterloo. They decided to collaborate and they were
going to storm the fort on the eighteenth of June.
The problem for the British and the French was the Russians.
Russians may be a lot of things, but stupid is
not generally one of them. The Russians assumed there would
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be a big assault on the anniversary of Waterloo. They
saw it coming and a lot of people died this
is you. Remember Lord Raglan did the charge of the
light brigade, the guy in charge. He dies shortly after this.
Not he didn't get shot, but from disease. He died,
and he said logistically he had screwed so much up
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he thought he would be executed when he went back
to Britain. This was back during a time period in
the world where generals got killed if they screwed everything
up here in America, you get promoted to raytheon for
a million dollars a year, but we'll set that aside.
Colera comes back. It's a night. But then the Brits
they know time is on their side. They sail another
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fleet up into the Baltic and they start to pummel
the Russian forts in the Baltic. Remember the Baltic is
north of Europe, and at the end of the Baltic,
if you're going from west to east, the end of
the Baltic is Saint Petersburg, the Russian capital. The Brits
start to pound cities on the way to Saint Petersburg
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until they get almost all the way there. Now the Russians,
they're looking out from their capital at a gigantic British fleet.
The Brits know they still have to take a huge fort.
But think what that would look like. What if you
woke up tomorrow morning and there was a Chinese fleet
as far as the eye could see. Little disconcerting, no, Well,
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combine that with the final attack that is mounted on Sevastopol.
The Russians know it's coming. They had built a They
tried to shuttle as many of their people out as
humanly possible, but their people are starving. The bombardment comes
and the Russians now were too hungry, too short of supplies.
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They can't seem to rebuild. They can't rebuild like they
used to. After every bombardment. The French and the British
both attack. The French pour through the lines. Remember the
French were ace Land troops at this point in time,
ace Land troops. We all like to make fun of
the French. They actually have an amazing military history. It
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was just World War Two where they embarrassed themselves. They
were dominant here. Soon there were French flags flying, but
no British flags. Why they had look, it depends on
who you read. I read three or four different things.
In preparation for this. They had good officers or bad officers,
depending on who you read. Good troops or young troops,
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depending on who you read. But the British attack fail.
The Brits don't make it, and the French do think
how badly that must hurt. There weren't British flags flying,
there were French flags flying in what was supposed to
be a joint assault. They try again the next morning,
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but the Russians had basically slipped out. Finally the Brits
go limping into the place. They then proceed both of
them to begin to flatten the dockyards, blow everything up.
They essentially reduced Sevastopol to rubble to rubble. The French
go home. The French are done with this whole thing.
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The Brits are not thrilled with their performance. They decide
they need a little a little more to get some
glory out of this war, and they're going to make
a serious run at Saint Petersburg. The Russians, though, were
fresh out of money and fresh out of hope. That
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large Russian empire where they were just done, and they
submitted before the Brits could use that navy and pound
Saint Petersburg to dust that is the story of the
Crimean War and the beginning of the end for the
Ottomans and the Czars. And you know what, we'll talk
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about that very briefly when we get back, and then
we'll get back to some politics here on the world
famous Jesse Kelly Show. There's the Crimean War for you. Now.
I'm sure all this war talk probably has you ready
to grill meats. It most definitely has me ready. But
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Do you have eh, probably four or five meat thermometers
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Pull it out, stick it in. Could you look at
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the temperature? Put it back. I think it needs ten
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questions emailed in now to Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.
How going to get to some of those emails in
a moment. We'll still give a little update on the
Russia Ukraine stuff. The lips are tearing down the rainforest
now and so much more. Just wanted to put a couplet,
a couple of little bows on this crimean war thing
about what happened afterwards for the Brits not their finest war, right.
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The Navy certainly had nothing to be ashamed of at all.
The Brits really knew how to feel the Navy, and
the Brits went on to really dominate the world. They
were the global superpower until World War One. So you
can't really complain in the end of how it worked
out for the Britz French. The French did very well
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for themselves too. By the time World War One rolled around,
they were a very very powerful country. Had done very
well the Ottomans. It's kind of funny the Brits and
the French sailed down there to I won't say, save
the Ottoman Empire. That's not what they did. That's a
real rosy that's a real rosy view on the motivations
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for the Brits and the French. That's right, Chris. It's
about money, it was about trade, it was about denying
the Russians. Constantinople was about all those things. But in
part at least, they were trying to keep the Ottoman
Empire intact. Remember, the Ottoman Empire doesn't get a lot
of love in America because it's a Muslim Empire, and
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Islam is not our natural religion here in the country,
so we kind of gloss over it. Everyone knows about
Rome and places like that. The Ottoman Empire was a
juggernaut for a very very, very long time. By this
point in time, they're on the back nine. Forget that,
they're on the last hole. They were a fading, crumbling empire.
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You know, Constantinople Istanbul today a wonderful, wonderful city. The
Brits couldn't stop talking about how filthy it was and
how full of beggars it was. When they got there.
They didn't know that. Again, this is before pictures. They
showed up and you have this Constantinople picture in your
mind and they're all, gosh, this place is a dump.
The Ottoman Empire was fading. This war didn't help them much.
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They essentially broke off a lot after this. In fact,
you can argue very easily that the Ottoman Empire kind
of cracking up, creating places like Serbia after this created
all the conditions for World War One, that horrible, horrible
thing that came what seventy years or so, give or
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take after this, The Ottoman Empire didn't end up faring
that well in the end, But really all that pales
in comparison to what happened to the poor freakin Russians.
The Russians had been ruled by Tsars for a long time,
about three hundred years by this point in time, they'd
been ruled kings. Okay, we call them zars, but they're kings.
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It's a monarchy, it's an autocracy, that's it. One person's
in charge, and they always had a secret police in
charge of repressing things. And this war did kind of
wake the Russians up to the fact that they needed
to be a lot more industrial than they were. They
really had to ramp up their industrial base. So they
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did get that much. But this war was so wounding
to the Tsars. We don't think about that in America
that much because we haven't really lost many wars. In fact,
have we ever lost one. Even if you say Vietnam,
we didn't militarily lose Vietnam. I'm the more on politicians
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may have screwed the whole thing up, but our military
certainly didn't lose Vietnam. Our guys did very very well.
Korea the same thing. You'd call it a tie Navia yeah,
it took five hundred thousand Chinese storming across the border.
We don't know what it's like. How does it look
for leadership to outright lose, as in you're signing a
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peace agreement and you're the loser. Well, the Tsars were
already starting to fade with their power and yest they
went on for another sixty seventy years. It's not like
they finished. But this really hurt the Czars. By the
end of this war, it was Czar Alexander, it wasn't
Zar Nicholas the first anymore, and they just really it
was the beginning, in my opinion, of the end for them.
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By the time World War One started, the Tsars were
in really shaky ground in Russia. And obviously you already
know the story. During World War One, that's when the
Russian Revolution happened. They lost their power and somehow, as
is often the case, things got worse for the Russians
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after the revolution. Just seems to work out that way
a lot. So that's the crimean war not insignificant, and
it goes into exactly what's in the news right now.
This Ukraine's today.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
We've made an offer that the Ukrainians have accepted, which
is to enter into a ceasefire, into immediate negotiations to
end this conflict in a way that's enduring and sustainable
and accounts for their interests, their security, their ability to
prosper as a nation. Now, hopefully we'll take this offer
and out of the Russians, and we hope that they'll
say yes, that they'll say yes to peace. The balls
now in their court. But again, the president's objective here
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is number one above everything else. He wants the war
to end. And I think today Ukraine has taken a
concrete step in that regard. We hope the Russians will reciprocate.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
That was Secretary of State Marco Rubio earlier today, the
Russians got the message. Maybe you're wondering why they haven't
signed on the dotted line yet to a ceasefire. The
Russians have said, now we're waiting on the details of
that ceasefire. Remember we've talked about this a lot. Just
to remind you again, stopping a war is much more
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difficult than starting one. It sounds really easy. It sounds
easy if you don't really think about all the diplomacy involved,
the different motivations, the political situation at the home front
of all the different countries involved, right, I mean, there's
political consequences here for Trump, for Zelenski, for putin that
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there's just a lot of moving parts. It's harder to
stop a war than start one. It's not like you
wake up and just say, okay, stop, we're done. Russia
has said, show me the details. We can talk about
that ceasefire. Show me the details. And like I told you,
was going to be an issue Russia, they pretty much
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have a huge, huge chunk of the Ukrainian forces surrounded
and off. Now, well you now you're really gonna have
to sweeten the pot because Russia has the ability to
annihilate these people if they keep this thing going. So
it could very well be rocky from here or by
the time we go down the air tomorrow, this thing
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could be stopped, you know, and they could be hammering
something out. I don't know. It might be a day,
it might be a month, it might be ten years.
We just don't know yet. Well know when we know,
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This is the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on
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And now it's time to pause all the politics in
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the Ukraine and the tariffs and they're tearing down the air,
the Amazon rainforest and everything else going on, because well,
now it's time for our third and final installment of
the Crimean War. If you missed the first two, go
download yesterday's podcast of the day beforehand iHeart Spotify iTunes,
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where we're just talking about the war that nobody seems
to know anything about, but we thought it would be
uniquely beneficial to have some idea of the history of
that region, the northern part of the Black Sea, the
Crimean region, Sevastopol, these these resource rich areas, Russia and
their warm water fleet, the Black Fleet, let's talk about it.
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So again. I'm not going to recap it all for you.
I can't possibly do that. But the one minute version
is Russia. This is the middle of the eighteen hundreds
eighteen fifties, Russia. Czar decides this Ottoman Empire. They're kind
of old and brittle. I think I'll take Constantinople. Britain, France.
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They don't want Russia to take Constantinople, and the Ottomans,
of course don't want Russia to take Constantinople. So they
sail this huge force down up the Dardanelles past Constantinople
Istanbul and now they are currently laying siege to the
city that is still very much there, Savasa the poll.
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The French are separate from the British, even though they're
fighting on the same side. They're entrenched outside of the city.
We're talking civil war type weapons to give you a
frame of reference, muskets, bayonets, cannons, things like that, and
it's ugly fighting. I told you yesterday about the charge
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of the Light Brigade. The Russians kept sallying forth to attack.
During one attack, they attacked in the fog. Then there
are fascinating accounts you can go read the letters today
of the Brits were sitting there. They thought they heard something,
but they couldn't really tell. And from the dense fog
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emerged lines of Russian troops with bayonets attached, and people
start dying in sword fights and bayonet fights. How dysfunctional
is it. The French army actually during this attack says hey,
you want us, come help, and the Brits are all, no,
(03:03):
we don't want your help. Again. The French and the
Brits they don't care for each other much, that kind
of thing. The French actually did jump in anyway without permission.
But the situation is ugly. It's a siege. It's a
long siege, and sieges are ugly things. So let's discuss
the situation on both sides at this point. Hand hint.
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At this point, the Russians are supplied quite well. You know,
I told you, Remember I told you Tolstoy, the guy
who wrote the book War and Piece. Everyone's heard of
the book. I've never read it, so don't feel like
some kind of dummy if you've never read it. I've
never read it. Oh, I know, Chris is supposed to
be way too many words. It's really really long. Anyway. Tolstoi,
he was the author. He was here fighting for the Russians,
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he was in Sebastopol. The Russians were so well supplied
with the Brits in the French parked outside that he
taught at one point in time, about what a wonderful
time he's having, about how this is just great. The
whole thing just kind of seemed like a really fun adventure.
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But why are the Russians supplied so well, well, remember
what we always do to help tell our history story.
We go to a map, look up the Black Sea.
The easiest way to do this Black Sea. Okay, you
see it, I know you see Sevastopol. It's that big
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piece of land and the northern part of the Black
Sea it's sticking out. Can't miss it. That's Sevastopol. Well,
that's Crimea. But the city Sevastopol is there. That's the
Crimean Peninsula. I might point out now if you're driving,
don't worry about it. To the northeast of it. You
see that little thing, the little blue the Sea of
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asof Azov, the Sea of Asov, the Sea of Asov.
That was the supply route where the Russians were getting
all their goodies, all the food, all the troop reinforcements
they needed. That's why guys like toll Story were sitting
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there in the city eating well, drinking wine. Got all
the bullets you need. A nice winter coat. Life is
good for the Russians at this time, for the Brits
not so much. Now we need to talk about this
because it's one of those things that it's important to
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remember always. Logistics matter. We talked about it last night.
The French were more ready to fight a fight like
this because they'd been fighting and they learned the necessity
of having a field ambulance, having great medical people, making
sure there's clean sheets, like basic boring things that you
don't think about. The Brits were so lost in this regard,
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and the fighting was extra extra terrible. Have you ever
seen Have you ever seen a picture I'm not recommending
it to you, depending on how old you are, of
a hospital, a field hospital during the Civil War, of
the missing limbs outside. You've seen it. I know Chris
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has seen it. Yeah, you're a sick o. Chris. Look,
I've seen it as well. There are pictures online. You
can go look at them. Kids asked mom and dad first, please,
but you can go look at them. There's just a
Civil War field hospital and there are just feet and legs,
and you see these guys they're always pictured and they're
missing legs and they're missing arms. Well, I brought it
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up yesterday. The advancements in technology, the advancements and cannons
and mortars and exploding shells. What we're encountering here is
extra horrific for a couple of different reasons. One, these weapons,
they're better, bigger, more powerful than weapons had ever been
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before in the history of combat. That's one. And two
because this is really the first major war where there
are pictures where you can see these things. The young
brave British boys and French boys and Russians. To be honest,
but the young brave British boys who went down and
signed up for glory in adventure, they didn't necessarily understand
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what they were signing up for. And it's not that
it's fun to get in a sword fight on horseback.
I'm not saying that would be a real good time.
But when you're a seventeen eighteen year old boy in
Britain and you want to go do your duty and
serve your country and make your dad proud, you're not
marching down to the station thinking you're going to come
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home without legs. But many of them came home without legs.
The wounds are terrible, the weapons are terrible, and the
medical situation is something to discuss. Because I brought up
Florence Nightingale, that famous nurse, last night. Why was she beckoned? Well,
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here's the situation. The real true hospital for these British
troops was not in Sevastopol. It was back in Turkey.
It was back in the Ottoman Empire. It was not
at all unusual for you to get wounded severely and
not have real medical care for a month or more.
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Imagine marching off to war. This is a true story.
I'm sorry, this is gonna be a little gross, say
for kids, but it's still gross. Imagine marching off to war,
charging the Russian lines, getting shot through the chest. This
is a true story, getting shot through the chest and
five weeks later you have not been shipped out for
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real medical care and people can scoop the maggots out
of your wound because it is so festered and gross.
This is what the British troops on the ground were
experiencing during the Crimean War. In these stories. Because again
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the modern press, the London Times and these other big papers,
they were there, they started to report these stories back home.
And this is why Florence Nightingale, bless her heart, said, ah,
I need to go down there and help in the
British government. To their credit, they knew they had a
serious problem and they said go. And then she walks
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down into the big nursing facility in the Ottoman Empire
and she's mortified by how dirty it is. There aren't
enough nurses, there's not enough clean sheets, there's not soap,
there's not water. Guys are dying brutally. One guy I
saw his picture. He was missing both of his legs
above his knees. Get this. He had lost his feet
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to frostbite. I'll get to that in a moment. But
how did he lose the rest of his legs. His
medical care was so poor they had to go back
in and amputate both of his legs above the knee
after his feet were lost. That's how terrible this war was.
And no one knows about this. We'll continue on. Maybe
I'll finish. I doubt it, but hopefully soon. Next this
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dot com. Back to the Crimean War again. This is
our third and final part tonight of the Crimean War.
So I just explained the logistical situation for the Brits,
but if you can imagine it, it actually gets worse
from here because winter comes. Now maybe you're thinking, well, yeah,
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hopefully they planned for that. It's freaking Russia. Well, yes
it's Russia, and yes it does get cold in this area,
but not the kind of cold that of course comes
this year, the year they happen to be there. Remember this,
part of the reason this area is so valuable to
this day to the Russians is it's a warm water port.
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This is not the normal frozen hellscape you think of
when you think about Russia in the winter. Winter comes
for the Brits. Remember they're already in trenches and being
able to supply an army by ship is a wonderful thing.
It's an impressive thing. And the British Navy does rule
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the waves. And after this war spoiler alert, they go
on to spread their empire and be powerful until World
War One. They really do. So it's nice. It's nice
when your army's parked down on the shore and oh,
we have more troops on this ship, and more food
on this ship, and oh all of our winter clothes,
forty thousand thick coats are on this ship. It's nice
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until a winter storm comes along and sends it to
the bottom of the ocean. Now you are three thousand
miles without a plane, without powered ships, sailing ships, or
how you get there. Your three thousand miles from home
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in one of the nastier winters this area has seen.
And it sets in as your men are in the
trenches and when it's not freezing cold, with men dying
every single night, it's muddy. So your guys go from
living in the mud to living in the frozen tundra.
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They are now bored, they're dispirited. And this is really
this is really an ugly down part of British military history,
which British military history is really awesome. A lot of
it's really awesome. Everyone has their ups and downs. It's war.
It's ugly. The crimean war is not It's probably not
one I would imagine that's on. It's not a feather
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you're keeping in your cap. If you're a brit and
you're talking about military history. Part of the reason why,
now this really angers me to a great deal. But
they're officers. While the enlisted guys were dying in the trenches,
getting their feet cut off, losing their hands, ears frostbite,
the Russians would routinely, because of the Russians were better
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prepared for the winter, like they always seem to be,
the Russians would infiltrate the lines, drop into your trench,
stab for guys, and go back. It was just a terrible,
ugly affair. The officers kept going back home. The British
officers would go on vacation back home to get warm,
while the enlisted guys stayed there rotting, dying and fighting. Now,
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I can't properly convey to you how quickly that would
destroy the morale of any unit in any country on
the planet we I won't go into the details of
the exact win because I don't need anybody tracking the
guy down. But at one point in my Marine Corps career,
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our company commander was a complete moron, just an absolute idiot,
and everybody knew he was an idiot, and we all
thought the guy was going to get is killed one day.
That's what we thought of him, as soon as we
figured out he was an idiot. And it didn't take
us long. It just sucked the life right out of
our company. It just does it. And I had lions too,
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a couple of lions, a really good platoon commander at
one point, really good company commander at one point, and
your whole company kind of puffs up. Yeah, I'll lay
down in traffic for that guy. Leadership does matter. You
know what it feels like when you're rotting in the trenches,
your foot just turned black, and your company commander hops
on a ship to head back home to hang out
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with his wife and kids for a month. Destroys a unit,
absolutely destroys it. Now, it's not all bad. Oh, it's funny.
You brought that up. Chris just brought up a line.
I don't know who said that line. I think it's old,
but there's an old line that it's better to have
an army of donkeys led by a lion than an
army of lions led by a donkey. You can look
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that up. Someone said it. I don't know whose line
it was. At one point point in time during this battle,
the Brits got close enough to the Russians, the Russians
would essentially use that line on them and said, you're
led by a bunch of donkeys, making fun of them
to their faces. Like I said, it's not a shining
example of British military history by any stretch of the imagination.
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But the Brits, slowly but surely, as controversy mounts back home,
start to get their act together. They actually did get
the troops some winter close, right about the time it
turned hot and winter ended. Yeah, I know it was ugly,
but they were all this time inching closer and closer
and closer to the city itself, to the fortifications of Sevastopol,
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so much so they've built a railway from the water
to the city of Sevastopol. So the Russians are starting
to feel it, and that, of course brings us to
that sea of azof these Russians are fat and happy
now everything they need. How long will that last? We'll
get to that in a moment. Before we get to that,
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trying to finish up part three of our little Crimean
war history thing we've been doing for the past few nights.
So just to answer Jewish producer Chris's question from the break,
he said, refresh my memory, why do they want all this?
Are they? Why are the French in British here? Because
the Russians realized the Ottoman Empire was dying and it
was they decided they wanted Constantinople for themselves. Understandably, they
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marched on it. The Brits and the French who were
highly invented in trade with that place, and you know
they're always competing with each other. You don't ever want
your enemy to seize really the most strategically important city
on the planet then and now. So they marched down there.
And the idea was they wanted to destroy not just
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Russia's fleet in the Black Sea, they wanted to destroy
Sevastopol itself, so Russia really couldn't even build another one
for a long time, destroy their fleet that way, they
can't go down and take Constantinople. And if that's a
little confusing, I'll give you a nerdy naval detail about
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this that you may or may not care about. But
it might help you understand things. Remember, this is the
time period of sale. Yes, there are steamships just getting
rolling now that it's something Britain's to getting good at,
but for the most part, this is still the time
of sale. If you look at a Crimean wore picture
of of the naval armadas, they have sails on them. Well,
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if you look at the Dardenells, that strip of water
right before Istanbul that leads up into the Black Sea,
it takes twice as long because of the winds, currents
and everything else to sail from the Dardennelles up to
Sevastopol as it does to sail from Sevastopol down to
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the Dardenells. The Russians, if they have a fleet there,
can get there overnight quickly, and the others cannot. All Right,
back to our story. So the Brits finally start to
get their supply act together. They're building a railway. This
is a modern powerful country. At this point, you'd probably
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consider them the most powerful country in the world. They're
not going to screw this whole thing up forever. They're
getting logistics figured out right at the time, they're figuring
out how to completely hose the Russian for their logistics.
Where were the Russians getting all their supplies from the
Sea of Azov, right there, northeast of Sevastopol, right northeast
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of the Crimean Peninsula. The Brits figured to themselves, well,
we have this sweet fleet. The Russians don't have a
fleet anymore. They sunk theirs on purpose. Why don't we
just sail our fleet into the Sea of Asov, knock
out some fortifications there and cut them off from supplies.
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And they do. It's pretty sharp military campaign, to be honest.
Not that severing your enemy's supply lines is some act
of brilliance. It's really anything anyone who's ever played risk understands.
But that's what you do. You find your enemy's supply line,
you cut him off, and you starve him to death.
The Brits do it. They do it successfully. Now the
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British army, from three thousand miles away is better supplied
than the Russian army, whose headquarters are two to three
hundred miles away. The Russians start to get weak as
the Allies grow strong. They're starting to build better facilities
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for the troops. No more tense, no more frostbite in
the winter. The Brits, the French, they're getting stronger and stronger.
Then they're thinking to themselves. The Russians, they're starving these people,
they're on their last leg. Guess what anniversaries coming up? Waterloo.
Now I know you don't know the Waterloo anniversary, nor
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do you need to memorize this date, But it's the
eighteenth of June. Okay, the eighteenth of June, and this
is not an important date necessarily for you unless you're
a super duper Napoleon freak. But at this point in
the eighteen fifties, Waterloo meant everything to the British. It
was their big victory over Napoleon and still a sore
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spot for the French. We had it all, we lost
it at Waterloo. They decided to collaborate and they were
going to storm the fort on the eighteenth of June.
The problem for the British and the French was the Russians.
Russians may be a lot of things, but stupid is
not generally one of them. The Russians assumed there would
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be a big assault on the anniversary of Waterloo. They
saw it coming and a lot of people died this
is you. Remember Lord Raglan did the charge of the
light brigade, the guy in charge. He dies shortly after this.
Not he didn't get shot, but from disease. He died,
and he said logistically he had screwed so much up
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he thought he would be executed when he went back
to Britain. This was back during a time period in
the world where generals got killed if they screwed everything
up here in America, you get promoted to raytheon for
a million dollars a year, but we'll set that aside.
Colera comes back. It's a night. But then the Brits
they know time is on their side. They sail another
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fleet up into the Baltic and they start to pummel
the Russian forts in the Baltic. Remember the Baltic is
north of Europe, and at the end of the Baltic,
if you're going from west to east, the end of
the Baltic is Saint Petersburg, the Russian capital. The Brits
start to pound cities on the way to Saint Petersburg
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until they get almost all the way there. Now the Russians,
they're looking out from their capital at a gigantic British fleet.
The Brits know they still have to take a huge fort.
But think what that would look like. What if you
woke up tomorrow morning and there was a Chinese fleet
as far as the eye could see. Little disconcerting, no, Well,
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combine that with the final attack that is mounted on Sevastopol.
The Russians know it's coming. They had built a They
tried to shuttle as many of their people out as
humanly possible, but their people are starving. The bombardment comes
and the Russians now were too hungry, too short of supplies.
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They can't seem to rebuild. They can't rebuild like they
used to. After every bombardment. The French and the British
both attack. The French pour through the lines. Remember the
French were ace Land troops at this point in time,
ace Land troops. We all like to make fun of
the French. They actually have an amazing military history. It
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was just World War Two where they embarrassed themselves. They
were dominant here. Soon there were French flags flying, but
no British flags. Why they had look, it depends on
who you read. I read three or four different things.
In preparation for this. They had good officers or bad officers,
depending on who you read. Good troops or young troops,
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depending on who you read. But the British attack fail.
The Brits don't make it, and the French do think
how badly that must hurt. There weren't British flags flying,
there were French flags flying in what was supposed to
be a joint assault. They try again the next morning,
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but the Russians had basically slipped out. Finally the Brits
go limping into the place. They then proceed both of
them to begin to flatten the dockyards, blow everything up.
They essentially reduced Sevastopol to rubble to rubble. The French
go home. The French are done with this whole thing.
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The Brits are not thrilled with their performance. They decide
they need a little a little more to get some
glory out of this war, and they're going to make
a serious run at Saint Petersburg. The Russians, though, were
fresh out of money and fresh out of hope. That
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large Russian empire where they were just done, and they
submitted before the Brits could use that navy and pound
Saint Petersburg to dust that is the story of the
Crimean War and the beginning of the end for the
Ottomans and the Czars. And you know what, we'll talk
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about that very briefly when we get back, and then
we'll get back to some politics here on the world
famous Jesse Kelly Show. There's the Crimean War for you. Now.
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questions emailed in now to Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.
How going to get to some of those emails in
a moment. We'll still give a little update on the
Russia Ukraine stuff. The lips are tearing down the rainforest
now and so much more. Just wanted to put a couplet,
a couple of little bows on this crimean war thing
about what happened afterwards for the Brits not their finest war, right.
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The Navy certainly had nothing to be ashamed of at all.
The Brits really knew how to feel the Navy, and
the Brits went on to really dominate the world. They
were the global superpower until World War One. So you
can't really complain in the end of how it worked
out for the Britz French. The French did very well
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for themselves too. By the time World War One rolled around,
they were a very very powerful country. Had done very
well the Ottomans. It's kind of funny the Brits and
the French sailed down there to I won't say, save
the Ottoman Empire. That's not what they did. That's a
real rosy that's a real rosy view on the motivations
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for the Brits and the French. That's right, Chris. It's
about money, it was about trade, it was about denying
the Russians. Constantinople was about all those things. But in
part at least, they were trying to keep the Ottoman
Empire intact. Remember, the Ottoman Empire doesn't get a lot
of love in America because it's a Muslim Empire, and
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Islam is not our natural religion here in the country,
so we kind of gloss over it. Everyone knows about
Rome and places like that. The Ottoman Empire was a
juggernaut for a very very, very long time. By this
point in time, they're on the back nine. Forget that,
they're on the last hole. They were a fading, crumbling empire.
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You know, Constantinople Istanbul today a wonderful, wonderful city. The
Brits couldn't stop talking about how filthy it was and
how full of beggars it was. When they got there.
They didn't know that. Again, this is before pictures. They
showed up and you have this Constantinople picture in your
mind and they're all, gosh, this place is a dump.
The Ottoman Empire was fading. This war didn't help them much.
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They essentially broke off a lot after this. In fact,
you can argue very easily that the Ottoman Empire kind
of cracking up, creating places like Serbia after this created
all the conditions for World War One, that horrible, horrible
thing that came what seventy years or so, give or
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take after this, The Ottoman Empire didn't end up faring
that well in the end, But really all that pales
in comparison to what happened to the poor freakin Russians.
The Russians had been ruled by Tsars for a long time,
about three hundred years by this point in time, they'd
been ruled kings. Okay, we call them zars, but they're kings.
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It's a monarchy, it's an autocracy, that's it. One person's
in charge, and they always had a secret police in
charge of repressing things. And this war did kind of
wake the Russians up to the fact that they needed
to be a lot more industrial than they were. They
really had to ramp up their industrial base. So they
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did get that much. But this war was so wounding
to the Tsars. We don't think about that in America
that much because we haven't really lost many wars. In fact,
have we ever lost one. Even if you say Vietnam,
we didn't militarily lose Vietnam. I'm the more on politicians
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may have screwed the whole thing up, but our military
certainly didn't lose Vietnam. Our guys did very very well.
Korea the same thing. You'd call it a tie Navia yeah,
it took five hundred thousand Chinese storming across the border.
We don't know what it's like. How does it look
for leadership to outright lose, as in you're signing a
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peace agreement and you're the loser. Well, the Tsars were
already starting to fade with their power and yest they
went on for another sixty seventy years. It's not like
they finished. But this really hurt the Czars. By the
end of this war, it was Czar Alexander, it wasn't
Zar Nicholas the first anymore, and they just really it
was the beginning, in my opinion, of the end for them.
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By the time World War One started, the Tsars were
in really shaky ground in Russia. And obviously you already
know the story. During World War One, that's when the
Russian Revolution happened. They lost their power and somehow, as
is often the case, things got worse for the Russians
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after the revolution. Just seems to work out that way
a lot. So that's the crimean war not insignificant, and
it goes into exactly what's in the news right now.
This Ukraine's today.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
We've made an offer that the Ukrainians have accepted, which
is to enter into a ceasefire, into immediate negotiations to
end this conflict in a way that's enduring and sustainable
and accounts for their interests, their security, their ability to
prosper as a nation. Now, hopefully we'll take this offer
and out of the Russians, and we hope that they'll
say yes, that they'll say yes to peace. The balls
now in their court. But again, the president's objective here
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is number one above everything else. He wants the war
to end. And I think today Ukraine has taken a
concrete step in that regard. We hope the Russians will reciprocate.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
That was Secretary of State Marco Rubio earlier today, the
Russians got the message. Maybe you're wondering why they haven't
signed on the dotted line yet to a ceasefire. The
Russians have said, now we're waiting on the details of
that ceasefire. Remember we've talked about this a lot. Just
to remind you again, stopping a war is much more
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difficult than starting one. It sounds really easy. It sounds
easy if you don't really think about all the diplomacy involved,
the different motivations, the political situation at the home front
of all the different countries involved, right, I mean, there's
political consequences here for Trump, for Zelenski, for putin that
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there's just a lot of moving parts. It's harder to
stop a war than start one. It's not like you
wake up and just say, okay, stop, we're done. Russia
has said, show me the details. We can talk about
that ceasefire. Show me the details. And like I told you,
was going to be an issue Russia, they pretty much
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have a huge, huge chunk of the Ukrainian forces surrounded
and off. Now, well you now you're really gonna have
to sweeten the pot because Russia has the ability to
annihilate these people if they keep this thing going. So
it could very well be rocky from here or by
the time we go down the air tomorrow, this thing
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could be stopped, you know, and they could be hammering
something out. I don't know. It might be a day,
it might be a month, it might be ten years.
We just don't know yet. Well know when we know,
all right, I know what I know. That didn't make
sense either way. You should definitely go to Hillsdale College
and learn some more things. We all need to learn things.
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But I can't get into Hillsdale College. I'm too stupid.
Maybe you're too stupid. Maybe you're too old. I don't know,
maybe you're too young. But Hillsdale doesn't care. They offer
more than forty courses for free online. That means you
by yourself board nothing to do tonight, Stop flipping through
the channels, Hillsdale College. So right there, why don't you
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go learn about the constitution tonight? Don't know what to
do with the kids? Are we just can't fight over
monopoly again. Hillsdale College. You want to learn about the
rise and fall of the Roman Republic, they'll teach you
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dot edu slash jesse. All right, all right, one more
quick word on the Ukraine thing, and then we have
to get to other stuff. Emails and the Libs are
tearing up the rainforest. Next
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