March 28, 2025 • 37 mins
The laws that stop us from deporting illegals. We are in a dire situation. Why is Trump endorsing Lady Graham? Brandon Weichert on why nearly 40% of our stealth bombers are currently headed to the middle east. Eyes on the middle east with what could be coming next week.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show, The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Let's have some fun on a Friday, a magnificent Friday,
and ask doctor Jesse Friday and all.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
My goodness, I don't.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Even know where to begin between the questions and the
world news and everything else. First of all, let me
just give you a heads up. I'm giving you a
heads up right now, hear me, Well, about a half
hour from now, Brandon Wikert, you know we've had him
on several times before, one of these national security experts.
Brandon Wikert is going to be here and he's going
(00:55):
to be discussing what he thinks is coming next week.
Next week, according to Brandon, he believes there's a chance
the next big war in the Middle East kicks off,
and yes, we are involved. You need to be here
(01:18):
about a half hour from now. Strap yourself in. It's
gonna be a lot to take. Brandon Wikert's gonna join it.
So that's coming. We're gonna talk about so many different
things right now. We have to discuss the ongoing criminal
enterprise of the United States government. RFK juniors out there
talking about things. Elon Musk is talking about things. Tim
(01:39):
Wallas apparently ended his presidential campaign already. He may just
not know it yet. Hey, communist is talking about how
property damage is no big deal. All that, and add
for the Marines that I'm actually gonna play in the opening,
We're gonna talk about your questions. Of course, somebody wants
to talk about the Trump endorsed midd Lindsay Graham. Someone's
(02:00):
mad at me about talking about abandoning the law.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
There's so much to get.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
To all that and green salsa verda Chris in case
you didn't know, and so much more coming up tonight
on the world famous Jesse Kelly's Show. Before I do
any of that, before you even get into the news
of the day, I'm sorry, I have to play something.
And I'll actually get to a question about this in
a while probably, but I'm not going to dig through it.
(02:26):
Someone said something about how it just it feels more
patriotic now. Everything feels more patriotic now now that the
American hate and communists are no longer in charge of
every single thing. Doesn't it in some ways feel like
a weight has been lifted.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Off of our shoulders.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Even with all the problems, and I know there are
problems that we'll talk about them. It's fine. Feels good again,
doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I've got.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I have a breakfast tomorrow morning with the young man.
Just I'm, you know, trying to help out and mentor
a little bit. And he lost his dad. He's a
wonderful kid, and he he gets a hold of me
the other day and he says, Hey, thinking about joining
the Marines. I'll talk to you about it. So I'm
gonna take it the breakfast, we're gonna talk about it.
(03:17):
And it occurs to me that for the longest time
I've told you, under Joe Biden, when they turned our
military into this you know, America hating bunch of gay crap,
that I told you my sons are not joining that.
My sons are not going to get dragged into some
war under these demons who hate their guts. They're not
going to do it. They're not joining that. I've told
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you that for how long they're not That's what I've said.
It occurs to me that tomorrow morning, I'm very likely
going to tell this young man to do it. And
you want to know why, because well, JD vance the
credit to him.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's just so awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Evan. JD there did the voice work for the new
ad for the United States Marines. This is the kind
of organization my young men can join them.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
We care about excellence, and we care about patriotism. And
if you are awesome and you are a patriotic marine,
then we are going to do everything that we can
to make you the most lethal fighting force the world
has ever seen.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
And that is what we're doing every single day. No
more quotas, no more ridiculous mumbo jumbo, no more diversity training.
We believe the real strength and the real diversity in
the United States Marine Corps is that you all come
from every walk of life, come from every corner of America,
and you have got the strength and the purpose to
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win the nation's boards. And that is what the Marine
Corps is going to do, just like it's done for
damn near two hundred.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
And fifty years.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Good grief, I'm gonna sign up myself. That's exactly that's
what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
That's what young men want.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
That's what the seventeen year old stud who wants to
service country no matter where he is Iowa, La, New York, Montana.
The seventeen year old stud on the football team, the wrestler,
the beast. That is what he wants to sign up
and join. Gosh, that's so freaking sweet. Okay, I just
had to get that out of the way. I'm sorry,
(05:17):
I have to do it.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Let it eat, baby.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Now, let's move on to the questions, shall we before
we get to the government looting.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I'm gonna wait.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I'm gonna wait on the government looting for just a
little bit, just because I'm so worried about Brandon Wiker's
about to tell us at about a half hour. Jesse,
this is about the Lindy and the guy calls it
the Lady Graham endorsement. That's not nice, Jesse. Trump isn't stupid,
at least he doesn't seem to be. But I'm one
hundred percent positive Trump knows almost every normal human being
(05:48):
knows Lady Graham is worthless. That being said, Trump will
need him for more than a few critical votes when
we have those two hags from Alaska and Maine. My
gut tells me that corrupts Supreme Court will against us
on deportation, and it also tells me Trump will do
what you suggest and defy the court. He will need
Lady Graham to corral the rhinos so they don't abandon him.
(06:11):
What do you think? Okay, Well, first of all, Trump's
not stupid. Okay, stupid people think Trump is stupid. Trump
is a very crafty, very savvy human being. Trump's not dumb.
Trump is transactional, no question about that. But he's not
(06:31):
dumb as far as your theory on. Hey, I need
to keep right beside me to make sure that he
can look out for me for when I have to
defy the Supreme Court. This is actually, this is actually
exactly my problem with the entire thing. The times we've
(06:52):
seen so far when we have critically needed Lindsey Graham
to defy by the system and fight with us, pretty
much every single time, he has sided with the system
instead of us, instead of us. This is my issue
(07:15):
with it. I understand that they have something going. Maybe
they're just personal friends. I don't know, And so I
get the Trump Graham LoveFest. Apparently I'm just gonna understand that.
I don't understand it, whatever it may be. But this
is my problem with it. This is my problem with it.
Is Lindsey Graham kneecaps Trump, kneecaps our efforts.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Lindsey Graham again.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I tell you when I think things, when I have
a theory, or when I know something, I know this.
Lindsey Graham was on Capitol Hill as quietly as possible
because he didn't want to make Trump angry. As quietly
as possible, Lindsey Graham was trying to end Pete hagsas
nomination Donald Trump's personal choice for Secretary of Defense. Lindsey
(08:09):
Graham was on Capitol Hill. It was a whisper campaign
because he knew he couldn't say it too loud without
making Trump mad. But Lindsey Graham was privately work in
the room trying to stop Trump's sect deaf and two
minutes later Trump endorses him. That's that's what frustrates me, Jesse.
(08:31):
Now this, I wanted to get to this.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Remember I wanted to recap what I said before I
get to this guy's email, because his subject is your
advocacy of lawlessness. Jesse, did you ever see a man
for all Seasons?
Speaker 7 (08:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I didn't see that. Do you like the US Patriot Act?
Speaker 6 (08:48):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
It's a disgusting comye act. Should I keep going? What
would please the communists more than our following your advice
to cast out laws? It would be the lighting of
the fire that could not be contained, contained the end
of our freedom. Okay, I understand what you're saying. But
let's let's let's do this. Okay, let's set it up
(09:09):
this way. Let's say, let's say Jewish producer Chris and
I go into business together, which would be a terrible
decision on my part. But let's say what Chris. It
just Let's say Jewish producer Chris and I go into
business together, okay, and we have a contract. We have
a contract, right, a contract, and the contract states the
(09:33):
money that's in our business. We sell cheeseburgers. Coach er Chris,
who sell cheeseburgers, and the money that is in our
business stays in the business. You don't pull any money
out of it that's in the contract. Chris starts pulling
money out of the business. He's violating the contract. Now,
(09:56):
no matter what I do next, no matter what I do,
this is already a terrible, terrible situation, and nothing, nothing
I do, will make the situation. Okay, Chris is illegally
violating the contract and hurting the business. No matter what
(10:21):
comes next, the situation is bad and won't ever not
be bad. All right, So just brew on that for
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(10:41):
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is the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Chris,
I don't think we need to be beating the war
drums like this, okay, or wait a minute, I guess
that's a protest song. In case you're wondering, Jewish producer
(12:05):
Chris and I and I'm assuming Cory, but I can
hardly see him today, which is really kind of a blessing.
We're a little bit concerned about what Brandon Wikert's about
to tell us all in about ten minutes from now.
So again you're gonna want to strap in for that. Remember,
you can email the show Jesse at Jesse Kellyshow dot com.
So Sky wrote in and it was a look, it's
a smart email. He's got an opinion. It's fine. He
(12:27):
wasn't rude or anything like that. The subject was my
advocacy of lawlessness, and he's referencing that I said Trump
needs to now. Now he has to begin to find
the judges. We don't have time for this. We can't
if we can't deport barbarians. If judges have the authority
to stop us, if even the law, if the constitution,
(12:49):
if anything, has the ability to stop us from deporting barbarians,
and the country's already finished, then the law shouldn't even
be there, The constitutions shouldn't be there. If we're not
a allowed to deport barbarians, then we're not even a
country anymore. And so this stuff, honestly, it just doesn't work.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
And we hope this court system that's become so active
all of a sudden and trying to protect some.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Very very bad.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
People of crime, they have to stop. They have to
let us do the job we were elected to do
the job. They shouldn't be interfering in that very sad
thing that's gone.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Nobody can even believe it.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
They'd rather have them stay in our country. These are
murderers in many cases, and people about as bad as
we've ever seen. And they have to let us do
the job. They have to let Cash and Pam and
everybody else do their job.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
They have to let us do the job. But they're
not going to let you do the job. And so
back to my little analogy I used. If Jewish producer
Chris and I go into business, Jesse's Cheeseburgers, and we
have a contract, it's signed, it's official that neither of
us are allowed to pull money out of the business.
(14:03):
But then Chris just decides he's going to ignore the
contract and starts pulling money out of the business. Well,
now we're in a situation that is bad, not of
our making, not of my making, and I have to
make a decision.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
What do I do.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I have to start pulling money out of the business.
I can't just let Chris pull all the money out
of the business. Then I have no money left and
the business goes under. If we're in a situation where
the contract has been willingly broken by the other side,
then I have no choice but to engage. And I
(14:41):
know it's a bad choice. I know it violates my
contract to pull money out of the business.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I have no choice.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
The American Communists have used our values against us. They've
manipulated us, They've manipulated courts and laws and even the
constant itself to justify the mass importation of foreign barbarians
for decades into this country.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
We are now in a situation that is dire.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I know we are feeling good right now and we're
pointing towards the right direction. Our situation is dire. The
contract has already been broken. You can say, like you
said here, it would be the lighting of the fire
that couldn't be contained, the fires out of control, the
fires already out of control. It's already not contained. The
(15:36):
American president created an app so foreigners can just invade
our country using an app on their phone that you
paid for. Joe Biden sued so he didn't have to
build the border wall that was the law, and then
(15:58):
before Trump could take over, they sold.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Off the materials.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I know.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
People who want to believe were in a different era,
people who believe in the law and the constitution, in
rules and the courts. I know that it's really, really,
really hard to accept where we are as a country.
(16:30):
It's going to sound unrelated, but it is not. Roe
versus Wade got overturned by the Supreme Court. The Communists
got mad about it, and in response to a Supreme
Court decision they didn't like, they decided to dig up
an old obscure law so they could justify arresting pro
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life activists.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
The law, aw what law.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
We can't contain it anymore.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
It's not contained.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
It's not I I know, we want to believe that
if we if we just kind of stay within the
rules and look, we have to abide by the law,
and then there's no more law. That country's not here anymore.
And I'm not celebrating that. I think our situation right
now is awful.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I hope you don't think.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I hope I haven't given you the impression that I'm
happy about this.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I'm horrified. I'm disgusted.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And yeah, it's that quote. Christ just brought it up,
that famous quote we talk about all the time, Pompy
Magnus of Rome. It's flat out said to somebody someone
as he and his gang of thugs, they were beaten
up on somebody.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Someone told him it was.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Against the law, and Pompy looked at him in disgusted
and said, do not.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Quote laws to men with swords.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I know, we don't want to live in an era
where it's men with swords. I don't want to live
in that. You don't want to live in that. I
didn't get that choice, neither did you. What if they
then violate the law, that's all they do. If we
are in a situation where we can't deport barbarians, the
country's already finished.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Period. And by the way, Brandon Wikert's about to say
some things about what he thinks is coming next week.
You really need to make sure that you have taken
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There's nothing you can do about that. I'm sure you're
doing what you can do. What have you done to
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(18:42):
whatever you have, what have you done to ensure it
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You know, April second's coming to next week, that's the
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(19:27):
gonna make us all sad and depressed.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Next The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It is The Jesse Kelly Show on a Friday.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Chris, that's a good song.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I don't know why you're dogging on it. That's a
good song. Joining me now, the man who chose that song,
which Chris is dogging on, Brandon Wickert, Senior National Security
editor for the National Interest. Okay, Brandon, First of all,
I'll allow you to defend your music taste really quickly,
and also, are we going to a TAKEI rom Well.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
The first thing is it's a great song, Chris. I
love that song, and that's all I'm gonna say on that,
And you know, thanks for sharing that. That that opinion though,
but it is a great song. And then the the
second thing I'll say is unfortunately, on a on a
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more serious note, it definitely is looking like at the
very least, the Israelis are in the next week going
to take some kind of action directed against uh, the Iranians.
I always say unfortunately, because you know, it's another war. Obviously,
the Iranian regime is is not a good regime, and
(20:42):
they are a threat to Israel in terms of what
the United States is going to do. Uh, we are definitely,
as this ridiculous signal gate uh, you know, controversy has shown,
we are definitely getting ready to to really bust some hoofy's,
you know, heads up together. But there's also so given
the assets that we've deployed, notably the Diego Garcia, which
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is our big staging ground in the Indian Ocean just
south of the Middle East, it definitely looks like we
might be planning to do something beyond just hitting the Houthies.
We've got about thirty eight percent of our entire B
two Spirit long range stealth bomber fleet now at Diego Garcia.
You don't need many B twos to take on the Houthis,
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but you need them to take on those nuclear facilities,
notably in the southern part of Iran, while the Israelis
are likely going to hit the northern facilities like four
doh in Iran.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Okay, there's so much to unback here. You're gonna have
to bear with me because I have a million well,
I know people have a million questions as to I.
First of all, I want you to dig into this
Diego Garcia. I know what it is, but a lot
of people do not what is it?
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Explain It's a major stage in ground. It's we have
a we have a base, very large base there. We
use that as sort of a midpoint for our forces
when they're operating, you know, in Africa, the Middle East,
as well as in Asia. It's sort of like the
perfect middle area. It's got a massive airfield there. It's
(22:19):
got another base there that people don't talk about. Uh
there's some capabilities at Diego Garcia that are classified. And
it's in the Indian Ocean and it's just south of
Iran and the Persian Gulf. Uh So it is a
perfect sort of staging ground if you're planning to do
strikes directed against the Hoho thieves and Yemen, which is
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sort of in the southern part of the Middle East.
Uh or and or against the targets in southern Iran.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
John, sorry, Brandon, please explain to me why why this
is necessary? And I'm not I'm not saying it's not.
I'm not arguing against it. But in Israel's eyes, why
is it's necessary? In our eyes, why is it necessary?
Is he run planning something? But why is it necessary? Now?
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I guess I should say, well.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
I think the Israelis feel like their backs are up
against the wall. October seventh caught them by surprise. The Hamas, Hezbola,
even Fatah in the West Bank, and definitely the hu
This are all Iranian backed. I think also Netsan Yahu
thinks this is a window of opportunity that he might
(23:34):
not get again. He just helped to collapse the Assad regime,
which I actually think was a mistake, but he just
helped to collapse the Assad regime in neighboring Syria, which means,
for the first time in decades, Israeli warplanes have a
relatively secure and reliable air corridor to safely fly from
Israeli airspace through Syria, through northern Iraq into northern Iran.
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And Netanyahu's looking around. He doesn't know how long this
situation will last because Syria is so unstable, and he's
got to worry about what Hamas is getting ready to do,
and he still has to worry about Hesbula to the
north and Lebanon. So striking Iran in the Israeli calculus
is you're basically hit, you know, going after the head
of the whole body here, which is Iran. For the
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United States, we have some interest in destroying the Houthis,
who are supported by Iran. We certainly do not benefit
from having an Iranian nuclear weapons capability. At the same time, though,
what I fear is that this is a very bad
time to do a war. Jd. Vance was saying this
(24:45):
about the Houthis in that signal app that was released
in the Atlantic, where he was saying, you know, we
could basically strike the Houthis anytime. Why don't we have
to do this now? My thought with Iran is we
could basically knock out the Iranians anytime. Why do the now?
It's going to suck all the oxygen out of Trump's
very transformative agenda in DC right now. A war in
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the Middle East will, But ultimately we are aligned with Israel,
and I think Israel is the one that really wants
to do this now because they don't think they'll be
able to again, and We're going to have Israel's back,
and so that means will we'll be positioned to knock
out the who things and possibly even to assist Israel
with directo strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Okay, Brandon, I hope you have a few minutes for me,
because yeah, the more you've educated me, the more questions
continue to pop into my mind, so I know they
pop in the minds of other people. First, I'm going
to actually drill down on something you said, because it's
nothing for you, but most people don't understand this.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I want you to talk.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
About the air corridor for Israel and what air corridor.
People don't make that connection, you know, maps and planes
and fuel and they just don't make that. What are
you talking about?
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Yeah, so basically, you know, Israel is a very small
country on the coast the eastern Mediterranean. It's got Lebanon
right above it, and then right next to it, it's
got Syria. And right now, right now the Syria, Syria's
open basically the airspace. They don't have a SOD there.
(26:17):
There's no coordinated anti air capability anymore because a SOD
is gone. So now Israeli planes can safely fly from
Israel over Syria and Iraq and into Iran, whereas before
when a SAD was there, it was not available.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Okay, now that is actually exactly what I wanted to ask. Next,
not available, what does not available mean Brandon? Not available?
As in, we'll send our fighter jets up to shoot
you down. Not available, as in, we have SAMs that
will shoot with sorry, surfaced air missiles that will shoot
you down. What does not available mean? Because my next question,
(26:59):
just to let you know, is going to be about
Iran and their ability to take planes out of the sky.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Yeah, well so, right, So the Syria under Asad they
had a fairly comprehensive air defense capability. The moment he
the Assad regime collapsed, the the Israelis basically went in
and knocked out all the known anti aircraft systems that
were left abandoned by Asad's army, so that there's basically
(27:28):
is no capability now to threaten Israeli warplanes if and
when they decide to cross using that air corridor. Now,
you mentioned the service to air missile and the anti
aircraft defenses of Iran. Those there significantly more comprehensive and
advanced than anything Assad had yet the Yet the Iranians
(27:52):
have been shown the Russian S three hundred that they
were using in October. The Russian S three hundred that
they were using in October was basically knocked out by
Israeli warplanes and they were able to kind of have
escalation dominance over Iran for a period of time. Yet
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the Russians have since October been flooding Iran with more
advanced anti aircraft systems and very well could have the
S four hundred. The Russians are giving the Iranians the
Su thirty five warplane. They might even be trying to
sell them the Su fifty seven, which is Russia's fifth
generation plane, to augment Iranian capabilities to stop in Israeli
(28:37):
or even American air strike. But that's going to take
time for Iran to build up, which is why I
think also the Israelis want to go now.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Speaking with Brandon Wikert, Brandon, I apologize because I should
have asked you this beforehand, But do you buy chance
have another quick segment for me, because I have about
fifty more questions. I'm going to try to squeeze in.
Brandon Wikert is going to join us again here in
just a moment. I'm sure you have questions. I have questions.
Look at how smart we're getting, and we can steal
Brandon's knowledge and pass it off as our own all
(29:08):
weekend long. Also, you're gonna cook any meat this weekend?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Is your meat?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
You cook this weekend chicken or steak or a brisket
or something like that. If you're made of money, is
it going to be made perfectly?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
You know?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Cooking to temperature is what all the super stud pitmasters do.
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of knowledge, that is Brandon Weikert about all this national
security stuff. Okay, where we left off, Brandon, you were
talking about Russia providing Iran with with anti air missiles,
things like missile defense systems, things like that. You mentioned
things like the three hundred versus the four hundred, And
where's what I want to know. One, how does all
this come into play when we are currently trying to
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negotiate a Ukrainian Russian piece at the same time Russia's
handing Iran things to shoot down our planes?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
That's one? And two?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Are these systems the four hundred? Is it able to
shoot down our planes and or Israel's planes? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:11):
So the first point is it's going to complicate our
ability to get a deal.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Now.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
I was convinced Trump was going to be able to
get a deal by now at least the ceasefire. But
I think the Trump administration has unfortunately made a couple
of mistakes, and now if they get sucked into this
Middle East thing, it's we're really going to be complicated
here getting a deal in Ukraine at the same time
the Russians and I wrote about this at the Washington
Times about a year ago. The reason Iran has not.
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You know, every time that Israel strikes them over the
last year and a half, Iran promises the mother of
all retaliations, and then it's kind of not that big
of a deal, and everybody's kind of like, what are
they talking about? Well, the reason the Iranian retaliations have
not been that strong, from what I understand, is that
the Putin government has been holding the government back. They
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didn't want to see a massive, unfedered escalation in the
Middle East. At the same time, the Russians are mired
in Ukraine. So the way I see what the Russians
are doing is they're trying to in their mind, restore
some semblance of deterrence. They don't want to see their
proxy in Iran fall, that's why they're giving them these systems.
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But at the same time, for the last year, they
really prevented Iran from doing more offensive operations of the
kind that the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps wanted to do.
And so there's a window there. If you know that,
if you're negotiating with Russian and you're the Trump administration,
the window then you say, is okay. The Russians are
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just trying to basically enhance the defensiveness of Iran. They're
not trying to give them significant offensive capacity. So if
we don't go too hard against Iran right this second,
we can probably put that on ice and get a
deal with Ukraine. But if if we go hard near term,
and I'm hearing from people in Israel, Israel's talking about
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striking Iran in the next week, which will naturally force
us to take on a more aggressive stance against Iran.
But if we do that, the downside will be it's
probably going to destroy any chance of getting a piece deal.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Oh well, this is all lovely, but this is why
I wanted you to come on, Brandon. I'm going to
ask the well. I was about to call it a
million dollar question, but historically, I guess it's a multi
trillion dollar question.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Brandon.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Let's say the Iranian regime does fall because of Israel's
bombs and our bombs and everything.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
What is the plan after that?
Speaker 6 (33:39):
So this is the issue, and this is you know,
you remember Colin Powell before Iraq, you break it, you
own it. And so I do think we could probably
get rid of that regime pretty quickly. Now, we might
lose a lot of planes, we might even lose a
carrier in the Red Sea if we're not careful. But
I think Israel and the United States could destroy that
regime in Iran. The problem is what comes after, so
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I think, and Netanyahu sort of said this in August
of last year. He's very fond And I like this
guy too, the Shah's grandson, the former king of Iran
who was overthrown by the current regime, the Islamist regime
in Iran. He has a grandson who lives in Washington,
d C. He's very active and he's been lobbying hard
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for the last several years to basically be brought back
into power in Iran. And there is a movement in
Iran that wants to see a restoration of the constitutional
monarchy that existed before nineteen seventy nine. The problem that
I have is a I don't know how significant his
support is. I worry he could be another Akhman Shalabbi,
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who was the guy we wanted to hand a raq
Do in two thousand and three, and it turned out
he didn't really have support, which is why that plan
fell apart as soon as we invaded. So my concern
is that. My concern also is there are other factions
on the ground in Iran that probably do not want
to see the king return, and so you're going and
then plus you're gonna have if we topple the Ayatola
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and his Mullahs, you're going to have elements of the
regime that are still well organized that will take on
an insurgency role. So you're going to have Iran as
a failed state. How do you handle that? I would
hope we're not going to seriously think about putting troops
on the ground in Iran at any time. You could
see Turkey moving troops in, but that's a NATO member.
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So there's the knock on effects here are very complicating,
and all this means is actually the region is less stable,
less safe. And by the way, unfortunately, the Trump agenda
at home would be seriously complicated because all of his
political momentum would then have to shift from goup doge
and swamp draining in DC to then focusing on the
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Middle East war.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah, I'm sure the American people who roundly put Donald
Trump back in the White House to fix inflation and immigration,
I'm sure they're going to be doing backflips.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Did you support yet another war.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
In the Middle East.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Brandon Weigert, you are the man. Brother.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Thank you for making us smarter and at the same
time making us all feel bad going into the weekend. Brandon,
thank you all.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
Right, goybye.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Look, I just tell you Jewish producer Chris and I
were exchanging some some tough looks during that whole thing.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Is this all sounds like a disaster? This sounds like
a disaster.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
And this is the part about foreign policy that is
so incredibly difficult. Everybody, everybody in the taking part in
all this. I'm talking about the Nation States and addition
different factions. They all kind of have a point and
they all kind of don't right. Israel wanted Asad gone.
(36:52):
That was very understandable. Is the world better off now
that a sod has gone? And ol ka, it's taking
over Syria. No, that's not good either. Israel wants Iran
taken out and views this as a window of opportunity.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
They're correct about that. The country that talks about wiping
them off the planet is now vulnerable. At the same time, does.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
That help the planet if we destabilize another majorment, Oh
my gosh, thats gonna be a frigging mets and it
might be coming next week, so that should be fun.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
But I will look, I'll tell you what. Let's just
have a brief talk about this.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
We'll get back to the ask doctor Jesse questions. Let's
have a talk about this politically next
This is a Jesse Kelly Show, The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Let's have some fun on a Friday, a magnificent Friday,
and ask doctor Jesse Friday and all.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
My goodness, I don't.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Even know where to begin between the questions and the
world news and everything else. First of all, let me
just give you a heads up. I'm giving you a
heads up right now, hear me, Well, about a half
hour from now, Brandon Wikert, you know we've had him
on several times before, one of these national security experts.
Brandon Wikert is going to be here and he's going
(00:55):
to be discussing what he thinks is coming next week.
Next week, according to Brandon, he believes there's a chance
the next big war in the Middle East kicks off,
and yes, we are involved. You need to be here
(01:18):
about a half hour from now. Strap yourself in. It's
gonna be a lot to take. Brandon Wikert's gonna join it.
So that's coming. We're gonna talk about so many different
things right now. We have to discuss the ongoing criminal
enterprise of the United States government. RFK juniors out there
talking about things. Elon Musk is talking about things. Tim
(01:39):
Wallas apparently ended his presidential campaign already. He may just
not know it yet. Hey, communist is talking about how
property damage is no big deal. All that, and add
for the Marines that I'm actually gonna play in the opening,
We're gonna talk about your questions. Of course, somebody wants
to talk about the Trump endorsed midd Lindsay Graham. Someone's
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mad at me about talking about abandoning the law.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
There's so much to get.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
To all that and green salsa verda Chris in case
you didn't know, and so much more coming up tonight
on the world famous Jesse Kelly's Show. Before I do
any of that, before you even get into the news
of the day, I'm sorry, I have to play something.
And I'll actually get to a question about this in
a while probably, but I'm not going to dig through it.
(02:26):
Someone said something about how it just it feels more
patriotic now. Everything feels more patriotic now now that the
American hate and communists are no longer in charge of
every single thing. Doesn't it in some ways feel like
a weight has been lifted.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Off of our shoulders.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Even with all the problems, and I know there are
problems that we'll talk about them. It's fine. Feels good again,
doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I've got.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I have a breakfast tomorrow morning with the young man.
Just I'm, you know, trying to help out and mentor
a little bit. And he lost his dad. He's a
wonderful kid, and he he gets a hold of me
the other day and he says, Hey, thinking about joining
the Marines. I'll talk to you about it. So I'm
gonna take it the breakfast, we're gonna talk about it.
(03:17):
And it occurs to me that for the longest time
I've told you, under Joe Biden, when they turned our
military into this you know, America hating bunch of gay crap,
that I told you my sons are not joining that.
My sons are not going to get dragged into some
war under these demons who hate their guts. They're not
going to do it. They're not joining that. I've told
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you that for how long they're not That's what I've said.
It occurs to me that tomorrow morning, I'm very likely
going to tell this young man to do it. And
you want to know why, because well, JD vance the
credit to him.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's just so awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Evan. JD there did the voice work for the new
ad for the United States Marines. This is the kind
of organization my young men can join them.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
We care about excellence, and we care about patriotism. And
if you are awesome and you are a patriotic marine,
then we are going to do everything that we can
to make you the most lethal fighting force the world
has ever seen.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
And that is what we're doing every single day. No
more quotas, no more ridiculous mumbo jumbo, no more diversity training.
We believe the real strength and the real diversity in
the United States Marine Corps is that you all come
from every walk of life, come from every corner of America,
and you have got the strength and the purpose to
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win the nation's boards. And that is what the Marine
Corps is going to do, just like it's done for
damn near two hundred.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
And fifty years.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Good grief, I'm gonna sign up myself. That's exactly that's
what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
That's what young men want.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
That's what the seventeen year old stud who wants to
service country no matter where he is Iowa, La, New York, Montana.
The seventeen year old stud on the football team, the wrestler,
the beast. That is what he wants to sign up
and join. Gosh, that's so freaking sweet. Okay, I just
had to get that out of the way. I'm sorry,
(05:17):
I have to do it.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Let it eat, baby.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Now, let's move on to the questions, shall we before
we get to the government looting.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I'm gonna wait.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I'm gonna wait on the government looting for just a
little bit, just because I'm so worried about Brandon Wiker's
about to tell us at about a half hour. Jesse,
this is about the Lindy and the guy calls it
the Lady Graham endorsement. That's not nice, Jesse. Trump isn't stupid,
at least he doesn't seem to be. But I'm one
hundred percent positive Trump knows almost every normal human being
(05:48):
knows Lady Graham is worthless. That being said, Trump will
need him for more than a few critical votes when
we have those two hags from Alaska and Maine. My
gut tells me that corrupts Supreme Court will against us
on deportation, and it also tells me Trump will do
what you suggest and defy the court. He will need
Lady Graham to corral the rhinos so they don't abandon him.
(06:11):
What do you think? Okay, Well, first of all, Trump's
not stupid. Okay, stupid people think Trump is stupid. Trump
is a very crafty, very savvy human being. Trump's not dumb.
Trump is transactional, no question about that. But he's not
(06:31):
dumb as far as your theory on. Hey, I need
to keep right beside me to make sure that he
can look out for me for when I have to
defy the Supreme Court. This is actually, this is actually
exactly my problem with the entire thing. The times we've
(06:52):
seen so far when we have critically needed Lindsey Graham
to defy by the system and fight with us, pretty
much every single time, he has sided with the system
instead of us, instead of us. This is my issue
(07:15):
with it. I understand that they have something going. Maybe
they're just personal friends. I don't know, And so I
get the Trump Graham LoveFest. Apparently I'm just gonna understand that.
I don't understand it, whatever it may be. But this
is my problem with it. This is my problem with it.
Is Lindsey Graham kneecaps Trump, kneecaps our efforts.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Lindsey Graham again.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I tell you when I think things, when I have
a theory, or when I know something, I know this.
Lindsey Graham was on Capitol Hill as quietly as possible
because he didn't want to make Trump angry. As quietly
as possible, Lindsey Graham was trying to end Pete hagsas
nomination Donald Trump's personal choice for Secretary of Defense. Lindsey
(08:09):
Graham was on Capitol Hill. It was a whisper campaign
because he knew he couldn't say it too loud without
making Trump mad. But Lindsey Graham was privately work in
the room trying to stop Trump's sect deaf and two
minutes later Trump endorses him. That's that's what frustrates me, Jesse.
(08:31):
Now this, I wanted to get to this.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Remember I wanted to recap what I said before I
get to this guy's email, because his subject is your
advocacy of lawlessness. Jesse, did you ever see a man
for all Seasons?
Speaker 7 (08:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I didn't see that. Do you like the US Patriot Act?
Speaker 6 (08:48):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
It's a disgusting comye act. Should I keep going? What
would please the communists more than our following your advice
to cast out laws? It would be the lighting of
the fire that could not be contained, contained the end
of our freedom. Okay, I understand what you're saying. But
let's let's let's do this. Okay, let's set it up
(09:09):
this way. Let's say, let's say Jewish producer Chris and
I go into business together, which would be a terrible
decision on my part. But let's say what Chris. It
just Let's say Jewish producer Chris and I go into
business together, okay, and we have a contract. We have
a contract, right, a contract, and the contract states the
(09:33):
money that's in our business. We sell cheeseburgers. Coach er Chris,
who sell cheeseburgers, and the money that is in our
business stays in the business. You don't pull any money
out of it that's in the contract. Chris starts pulling
money out of the business. He's violating the contract. Now,
(09:56):
no matter what I do next, no matter what I do,
this is already a terrible, terrible situation, and nothing, nothing
I do, will make the situation. Okay, Chris is illegally
violating the contract and hurting the business. No matter what
(10:21):
comes next, the situation is bad and won't ever not
be bad. All right, So just brew on that for
a moment and we'll come back to it. Before we
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is the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Chris,
I don't think we need to be beating the war
drums like this, okay, or wait a minute, I guess
that's a protest song. In case you're wondering, Jewish producer
(12:05):
Chris and I and I'm assuming Cory, but I can
hardly see him today, which is really kind of a blessing.
We're a little bit concerned about what Brandon Wikert's about
to tell us all in about ten minutes from now.
So again you're gonna want to strap in for that. Remember,
you can email the show Jesse at Jesse Kellyshow dot com.
So Sky wrote in and it was a look, it's
a smart email. He's got an opinion. It's fine. He
(12:27):
wasn't rude or anything like that. The subject was my
advocacy of lawlessness, and he's referencing that I said Trump
needs to now. Now he has to begin to find
the judges. We don't have time for this. We can't
if we can't deport barbarians. If judges have the authority
to stop us, if even the law, if the constitution,
(12:49):
if anything, has the ability to stop us from deporting barbarians,
and the country's already finished, then the law shouldn't even
be there, The constitutions shouldn't be there. If we're not
a allowed to deport barbarians, then we're not even a
country anymore. And so this stuff, honestly, it just doesn't work.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
And we hope this court system that's become so active
all of a sudden and trying to protect some.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Very very bad.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
People of crime, they have to stop. They have to
let us do the job we were elected to do
the job. They shouldn't be interfering in that very sad
thing that's gone.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Nobody can even believe it.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
They'd rather have them stay in our country. These are
murderers in many cases, and people about as bad as
we've ever seen. And they have to let us do
the job. They have to let Cash and Pam and
everybody else do their job.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
They have to let us do the job. But they're
not going to let you do the job. And so
back to my little analogy I used. If Jewish producer
Chris and I go into business, Jesse's Cheeseburgers, and we
have a contract, it's signed, it's official that neither of
us are allowed to pull money out of the business.
(14:03):
But then Chris just decides he's going to ignore the
contract and starts pulling money out of the business. Well,
now we're in a situation that is bad, not of
our making, not of my making, and I have to
make a decision.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
What do I do.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I have to start pulling money out of the business.
I can't just let Chris pull all the money out
of the business. Then I have no money left and
the business goes under. If we're in a situation where
the contract has been willingly broken by the other side,
then I have no choice but to engage. And I
(14:41):
know it's a bad choice. I know it violates my
contract to pull money out of the business.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I have no choice.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
The American Communists have used our values against us. They've
manipulated us, They've manipulated courts and laws and even the
constant itself to justify the mass importation of foreign barbarians
for decades into this country.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
We are now in a situation that is dire.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I know we are feeling good right now and we're
pointing towards the right direction. Our situation is dire. The
contract has already been broken. You can say, like you
said here, it would be the lighting of the fire
that couldn't be contained, the fires out of control, the
fires already out of control. It's already not contained. The
(15:36):
American president created an app so foreigners can just invade
our country using an app on their phone that you
paid for. Joe Biden sued so he didn't have to
build the border wall that was the law, and then
(15:58):
before Trump could take over, they sold.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Off the materials.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I know.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
People who want to believe were in a different era,
people who believe in the law and the constitution, in
rules and the courts. I know that it's really, really,
really hard to accept where we are as a country.
(16:30):
It's going to sound unrelated, but it is not. Roe
versus Wade got overturned by the Supreme Court. The Communists
got mad about it, and in response to a Supreme
Court decision they didn't like, they decided to dig up
an old obscure law so they could justify arresting pro
(16:55):
life activists.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
The law, aw what law.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
We can't contain it anymore.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
It's not contained.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
It's not I I know, we want to believe that
if we if we just kind of stay within the
rules and look, we have to abide by the law,
and then there's no more law. That country's not here anymore.
And I'm not celebrating that. I think our situation right
now is awful.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I hope you don't think.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I hope I haven't given you the impression that I'm
happy about this.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I'm horrified. I'm disgusted.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And yeah, it's that quote. Christ just brought it up,
that famous quote we talk about all the time, Pompy
Magnus of Rome. It's flat out said to somebody someone
as he and his gang of thugs, they were beaten
up on somebody.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Someone told him it was.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Against the law, and Pompy looked at him in disgusted
and said, do not.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Quote laws to men with swords.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I know, we don't want to live in an era
where it's men with swords. I don't want to live
in that. You don't want to live in that. I
didn't get that choice, neither did you. What if they
then violate the law, that's all they do. If we
are in a situation where we can't deport barbarians, the
country's already finished.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Period. And by the way, Brandon Wikert's about to say
some things about what he thinks is coming next week.
You really need to make sure that you have taken
care of your finances. I'm not talking about making more money.
There's nothing you can do about that. I'm sure you're
doing what you can do. What have you done to
ensure that the money you're for a one K, your retirement,
(18:42):
whatever you have, what have you done to ensure it
won't be wiped out if there are disturbances in the market.
You know, April second's coming to next week, that's the
officially tariff day. What have you done? Call gold cod
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them and find out what they can do. Brandon Wikert's
(19:27):
gonna make us all sad and depressed.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Next The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It is The Jesse Kelly Show on a Friday.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Chris, that's a good song.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I don't know why you're dogging on it. That's a
good song. Joining me now, the man who chose that song,
which Chris is dogging on, Brandon Wickert, Senior National Security
editor for the National Interest. Okay, Brandon, First of all,
I'll allow you to defend your music taste really quickly,
and also, are we going to a TAKEI rom Well.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
The first thing is it's a great song, Chris. I
love that song, and that's all I'm gonna say on that,
And you know, thanks for sharing that. That that opinion though,
but it is a great song. And then the the
second thing I'll say is unfortunately, on a on a
(20:21):
more serious note, it definitely is looking like at the
very least, the Israelis are in the next week going
to take some kind of action directed against uh, the Iranians.
I always say unfortunately, because you know, it's another war. Obviously,
the Iranian regime is is not a good regime, and
(20:42):
they are a threat to Israel in terms of what
the United States is going to do. Uh, we are definitely,
as this ridiculous signal gate uh, you know, controversy has shown,
we are definitely getting ready to to really bust some hoofy's,
you know, heads up together. But there's also so given
the assets that we've deployed, notably the Diego Garcia, which
(21:05):
is our big staging ground in the Indian Ocean just
south of the Middle East, it definitely looks like we
might be planning to do something beyond just hitting the Houthies.
We've got about thirty eight percent of our entire B
two Spirit long range stealth bomber fleet now at Diego Garcia.
You don't need many B twos to take on the Houthis,
(21:28):
but you need them to take on those nuclear facilities,
notably in the southern part of Iran, while the Israelis
are likely going to hit the northern facilities like four
doh in Iran.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Okay, there's so much to unback here. You're gonna have
to bear with me because I have a million well,
I know people have a million questions as to I.
First of all, I want you to dig into this
Diego Garcia. I know what it is, but a lot
of people do not what is it?
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Explain It's a major stage in ground. It's we have
a we have a base, very large base there. We
use that as sort of a midpoint for our forces
when they're operating, you know, in Africa, the Middle East,
as well as in Asia. It's sort of like the
perfect middle area. It's got a massive airfield there. It's
(22:19):
got another base there that people don't talk about. Uh
there's some capabilities at Diego Garcia that are classified. And
it's in the Indian Ocean and it's just south of
Iran and the Persian Gulf. Uh So it is a
perfect sort of staging ground if you're planning to do
strikes directed against the Hoho thieves and Yemen, which is
(22:43):
sort of in the southern part of the Middle East.
Uh or and or against the targets in southern Iran.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
John, sorry, Brandon, please explain to me why why this
is necessary? And I'm not I'm not saying it's not.
I'm not arguing against it. But in Israel's eyes, why
is it's necessary? In our eyes, why is it necessary?
Is he run planning something? But why is it necessary? Now?
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I guess I should say, well.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
I think the Israelis feel like their backs are up
against the wall. October seventh caught them by surprise. The Hamas, Hezbola,
even Fatah in the West Bank, and definitely the hu
This are all Iranian backed. I think also Netsan Yahu
thinks this is a window of opportunity that he might
(23:34):
not get again. He just helped to collapse the Assad regime,
which I actually think was a mistake, but he just
helped to collapse the Assad regime in neighboring Syria, which means,
for the first time in decades, Israeli warplanes have a
relatively secure and reliable air corridor to safely fly from
Israeli airspace through Syria, through northern Iraq into northern Iran.
(24:00):
And Netanyahu's looking around. He doesn't know how long this
situation will last because Syria is so unstable, and he's
got to worry about what Hamas is getting ready to do,
and he still has to worry about Hesbula to the
north and Lebanon. So striking Iran in the Israeli calculus
is you're basically hit, you know, going after the head
of the whole body here, which is Iran. For the
(24:23):
United States, we have some interest in destroying the Houthis,
who are supported by Iran. We certainly do not benefit
from having an Iranian nuclear weapons capability. At the same time, though,
what I fear is that this is a very bad
time to do a war. Jd. Vance was saying this
(24:45):
about the Houthis in that signal app that was released
in the Atlantic, where he was saying, you know, we
could basically strike the Houthis anytime. Why don't we have
to do this now? My thought with Iran is we
could basically knock out the Iranians anytime. Why do the now?
It's going to suck all the oxygen out of Trump's
very transformative agenda in DC right now. A war in
(25:08):
the Middle East will, But ultimately we are aligned with Israel,
and I think Israel is the one that really wants
to do this now because they don't think they'll be
able to again, and We're going to have Israel's back,
and so that means will we'll be positioned to knock
out the who things and possibly even to assist Israel
with directo strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Okay, Brandon, I hope you have a few minutes for me,
because yeah, the more you've educated me, the more questions
continue to pop into my mind, so I know they
pop in the minds of other people. First, I'm going
to actually drill down on something you said, because it's
nothing for you, but most people don't understand this.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I want you to talk.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
About the air corridor for Israel and what air corridor.
People don't make that connection, you know, maps and planes
and fuel and they just don't make that. What are
you talking about?
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Yeah, so basically, you know, Israel is a very small
country on the coast the eastern Mediterranean. It's got Lebanon
right above it, and then right next to it, it's
got Syria. And right now, right now the Syria, Syria's
open basically the airspace. They don't have a SOD there.
(26:17):
There's no coordinated anti air capability anymore because a SOD
is gone. So now Israeli planes can safely fly from
Israel over Syria and Iraq and into Iran, whereas before
when a SAD was there, it was not available.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Okay, now that is actually exactly what I wanted to ask. Next,
not available, what does not available mean Brandon? Not available?
As in, we'll send our fighter jets up to shoot
you down. Not available, as in, we have SAMs that
will shoot with sorry, surfaced air missiles that will shoot
you down. What does not available mean? Because my next question,
(26:59):
just to let you know, is going to be about
Iran and their ability to take planes out of the sky.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Yeah, well so, right, So the Syria under Asad they
had a fairly comprehensive air defense capability. The moment he
the Assad regime collapsed, the the Israelis basically went in
and knocked out all the known anti aircraft systems that
were left abandoned by Asad's army, so that there's basically
(27:28):
is no capability now to threaten Israeli warplanes if and
when they decide to cross using that air corridor. Now,
you mentioned the service to air missile and the anti
aircraft defenses of Iran. Those there significantly more comprehensive and
advanced than anything Assad had yet the Yet the Iranians
(27:52):
have been shown the Russian S three hundred that they
were using in October. The Russian S three hundred that
they were using in October was basically knocked out by
Israeli warplanes and they were able to kind of have
escalation dominance over Iran for a period of time. Yet
(28:14):
the Russians have since October been flooding Iran with more
advanced anti aircraft systems and very well could have the
S four hundred. The Russians are giving the Iranians the
Su thirty five warplane. They might even be trying to
sell them the Su fifty seven, which is Russia's fifth
generation plane, to augment Iranian capabilities to stop in Israeli
(28:37):
or even American air strike. But that's going to take
time for Iran to build up, which is why I
think also the Israelis want to go now.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Speaking with Brandon Wikert, Brandon, I apologize because I should
have asked you this beforehand, But do you buy chance
have another quick segment for me, because I have about
fifty more questions. I'm going to try to squeeze in.
Brandon Wikert is going to join us again here in
just a moment. I'm sure you have questions. I have questions.
Look at how smart we're getting, and we can steal
Brandon's knowledge and pass it off as our own all
(29:08):
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(30:32):
of knowledge, that is Brandon Weikert about all this national
security stuff. Okay, where we left off, Brandon, you were
talking about Russia providing Iran with with anti air missiles,
things like missile defense systems, things like that. You mentioned
things like the three hundred versus the four hundred, And
where's what I want to know. One, how does all
this come into play when we are currently trying to
(30:54):
negotiate a Ukrainian Russian piece at the same time Russia's
handing Iran things to shoot down our planes?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
That's one? And two?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Are these systems the four hundred? Is it able to
shoot down our planes and or Israel's planes? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:11):
So the first point is it's going to complicate our
ability to get a deal.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Now.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
I was convinced Trump was going to be able to
get a deal by now at least the ceasefire. But
I think the Trump administration has unfortunately made a couple
of mistakes, and now if they get sucked into this
Middle East thing, it's we're really going to be complicated
here getting a deal in Ukraine at the same time
the Russians and I wrote about this at the Washington
Times about a year ago. The reason Iran has not.
(31:40):
You know, every time that Israel strikes them over the
last year and a half, Iran promises the mother of
all retaliations, and then it's kind of not that big
of a deal, and everybody's kind of like, what are
they talking about? Well, the reason the Iranian retaliations have
not been that strong, from what I understand, is that
the Putin government has been holding the government back. They
(32:02):
didn't want to see a massive, unfedered escalation in the
Middle East. At the same time, the Russians are mired
in Ukraine. So the way I see what the Russians
are doing is they're trying to in their mind, restore
some semblance of deterrence. They don't want to see their
proxy in Iran fall, that's why they're giving them these systems.
(32:23):
But at the same time, for the last year, they
really prevented Iran from doing more offensive operations of the
kind that the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps wanted to do.
And so there's a window there. If you know that,
if you're negotiating with Russian and you're the Trump administration,
the window then you say, is okay. The Russians are
(32:43):
just trying to basically enhance the defensiveness of Iran. They're
not trying to give them significant offensive capacity. So if
we don't go too hard against Iran right this second,
we can probably put that on ice and get a
deal with Ukraine. But if if we go hard near term,
and I'm hearing from people in Israel, Israel's talking about
(33:04):
striking Iran in the next week, which will naturally force
us to take on a more aggressive stance against Iran.
But if we do that, the downside will be it's
probably going to destroy any chance of getting a piece deal.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Oh well, this is all lovely, but this is why
I wanted you to come on, Brandon. I'm going to
ask the well. I was about to call it a
million dollar question, but historically, I guess it's a multi
trillion dollar question.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Brandon.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Let's say the Iranian regime does fall because of Israel's
bombs and our bombs and everything.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
What is the plan after that?
Speaker 6 (33:39):
So this is the issue, and this is you know,
you remember Colin Powell before Iraq, you break it, you
own it. And so I do think we could probably
get rid of that regime pretty quickly. Now, we might
lose a lot of planes, we might even lose a
carrier in the Red Sea if we're not careful. But
I think Israel and the United States could destroy that
regime in Iran. The problem is what comes after, so
(34:01):
I think, and Netanyahu sort of said this in August
of last year. He's very fond And I like this
guy too, the Shah's grandson, the former king of Iran
who was overthrown by the current regime, the Islamist regime
in Iran. He has a grandson who lives in Washington,
d C. He's very active and he's been lobbying hard
(34:22):
for the last several years to basically be brought back
into power in Iran. And there is a movement in
Iran that wants to see a restoration of the constitutional
monarchy that existed before nineteen seventy nine. The problem that
I have is a I don't know how significant his
support is. I worry he could be another Akhman Shalabbi,
(34:44):
who was the guy we wanted to hand a raq
Do in two thousand and three, and it turned out
he didn't really have support, which is why that plan
fell apart as soon as we invaded. So my concern
is that. My concern also is there are other factions
on the ground in Iran that probably do not want
to see the king return, and so you're going and
then plus you're gonna have if we topple the Ayatola
(35:05):
and his Mullahs, you're going to have elements of the
regime that are still well organized that will take on
an insurgency role. So you're going to have Iran as
a failed state. How do you handle that? I would
hope we're not going to seriously think about putting troops
on the ground in Iran at any time. You could
see Turkey moving troops in, but that's a NATO member.
(35:26):
So there's the knock on effects here are very complicating,
and all this means is actually the region is less stable,
less safe. And by the way, unfortunately, the Trump agenda
at home would be seriously complicated because all of his
political momentum would then have to shift from goup doge
and swamp draining in DC to then focusing on the
(35:48):
Middle East war.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah, I'm sure the American people who roundly put Donald
Trump back in the White House to fix inflation and immigration,
I'm sure they're going to be doing backflips.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Did you support yet another war.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
In the Middle East.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Brandon Weigert, you are the man. Brother.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Thank you for making us smarter and at the same
time making us all feel bad going into the weekend. Brandon,
thank you all.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
Right, goybye.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Look, I just tell you Jewish producer Chris and I
were exchanging some some tough looks during that whole thing.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Is this all sounds like a disaster? This sounds like
a disaster.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
And this is the part about foreign policy that is
so incredibly difficult. Everybody, everybody in the taking part in
all this. I'm talking about the Nation States and addition
different factions. They all kind of have a point and
they all kind of don't right. Israel wanted Asad gone.
(36:52):
That was very understandable. Is the world better off now
that a sod has gone? And ol ka, it's taking
over Syria. No, that's not good either. Israel wants Iran
taken out and views this as a window of opportunity.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
They're correct about that. The country that talks about wiping
them off the planet is now vulnerable. At the same time, does.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
That help the planet if we destabilize another majorment, Oh
my gosh, thats gonna be a frigging mets and it
might be coming next week, so that should be fun.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
But I will look, I'll tell you what. Let's just
have a brief talk about this.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
We'll get back to the ask doctor Jesse questions. Let's
have a talk about this politically next
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