March 31, 2025 • 36 mins
A hard talk on the state of the Deep State. Why was Kash delayed a month? From it’s inception the FBI has been holding blackmail files on people. A mountain to climb cleaning up the deep state. The enemy within. Medal of Honor: David Winder
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show, The Jesse Kelly Show,
another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on a spectacular Monday. Yes,
we're going to get to this doj FBI stuff here
in just a few because there's we have to have
a serious talk about it. I actually wanted to do
that first hour the way I did it because it
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leads us perfectly into where we're at right now. And
we'll get to that in a few. But you know
what time it is. It's Monday, start of the second
hour on Monday, and so we're going to do now
what we do every single Monday, Medal of Honor. Monday.
We take a medal of honor citation, then we read
it on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
That's it. When you earn a medal of honor, most
of the time you don't live the awful part about it,
and they write up what you did. Some write ups
are more elaborate than others, where they don't fill in
the blanks. I have decided I'm going to try to
fill in the blanks with my knowledge of the events.
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But they do a write up on it, and for
the guys who died and the ones who lived, but
let's focus on the ones who died here for a
few minutes. I love that they do a citation, right.
I love that they do a write up, and you'll
get a plaque and all these other things. But it
doesn't feel like enough, does it. And the reason it
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doesn't feel like enough is we don't read it. We
don't remember, we don't read their names. We don't remember
their names, we don't read the citation, we don't remember
what people do. When I read these two you on Monday,
I would guess that oftentimes, most of the time, that's
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probably the first time you've ever heard the guy's name, right,
and you don't feel stupid about that. I'm the same way.
When we're digging through and I'm reading new ones, I
learn new things all the time. I'm not saying, well,
I know all these I don't know them either, because
we don't celebrate them. We celebrate everything but the guys
that did it and remember you. Not only can email
the show love hate death threats, ask doctor Jesse questions
(02:23):
for Friday. You can email in suggestions if you'd like them. Jesse,
I had this is an email. I unfortunately haven't been
able to listen to you on a regular basis. So
I'm not sure if you honored fellow Ohio Medal of
Honor recipient David Francis Winder from Mansfield, Ohio. I had
the honor of knowing Dave in high school before joining
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the Army in nineteen sixty eight and becoming a private
first class in combat combat medic. Dave was the son
of a Presbyterian minister, religious and a concientious objector. Thank
you for your consideration. Okay, So in case you don't know,
and the guy goes on to compare him to Desmond Dos.
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So Desmond Dos. You may know the name of Desmond Dos.
Courtesy of Mel Gibson. Mel Gibson made that movie Heartbreak Ridge.
Remember that movie Heartbreak Ridge. Well, that took place on Okinawa.
The reason Heartbreak Ridge was so successful, or the movie
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was so successful, is because of the heroics of Desmond Dos.
That was World War Two. Desmond Dos was a non
violent man, conscientious objector. I believe he was seventh Day
at Ventis if I remember right. But he didn't believe
in hurting anything, harming anything. So he decided he was
going to be a medic, and he saved a bunch
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of lives that day. Well, that wasn't only his story.
This story takes place in Vietnam, and David Winder he
was also a man. He did not even harming a
soul or killing anybody, and in fact, he was so
against the war for that reason that he almost fled
to Canada. And then I mean he decided it wasn't
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the right thing to do, said, I just decided it
wasn't the right thing to do, and he wanted to go.
He wanted to go do what he could without killing anybody.
So he actually just know, as you listen to this story,
he didn't carry a weapon on him. That's brave, that's
its own way of bravery. You know, we love the
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guys who carry weapons and bombs and grenades, but when
you're in a hostile place, surrounded by people with weapons
trying to kill you with said weapons, it takes a
unique kind of bravery to just not have one at
all by choice, and then to go on and do
exactly what he did here.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Hey, honoring those who went above and beyond. It's medal
of Honor Monday.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
PFC Winder distinguished himself while serving in the Republic of
Vietnam as a senior medical aidman with the company. A
After moving through freshly cut rice paddies in search of
a suspected company size enemy force, the unit started a
thorough search of the area. Suddenly they were engaged with
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intense automatic weapons and rocket propelled grenade fire by a
well entrenched enemy force. Several friendly soldiers fell in the
fell wounded in the initial contact, and the unit was
pinned down. Responding instantly to the cries of his wounded comrades,
Pfc Winder began maneuvering across one hundred meters of open,
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bullet swept terrain toward the nearest casualty a way back
to that in a second Unarmed and crawling most of
the distance, he was wounded by enemy fire before reaching
his comrades. Despite his wounds and with great effort, Pfc
Winder reached the first casualty and administered medical aid as
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he continued to crawl across the open terrain toward a
second wounded soldier. He was forced to stop when wounded
a second time. Aroused by the cries of an injured
comrade for aid, PFC Winders great determination and sense of
duty impelled him to move forward once again. Despite his
wounds in a courageous attempt to reach and assist the
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injured man. After struggling to within ten meters of the man,
Pfc Winder was mortally wounded. His dedication and sacrifice inspired
his unit to initiate an aggressive counter assault, which led
to the defeat of the enemy. Pfc. Winder's conspicuous gallantry
and intrepidity and action at the cost of his life
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were in keeping with the highest traditions of military service
and reflect great credit upon him his unit in the
US Army, And obviously he gave his life for this country. Now,
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just before we get into the FBI and cleaning out
the rot and what's happening right now inside of our government,
we just we have a lot of things we need
to be aware of right now, and there are a
lot of a lot of things going on. Before I
get to that, I just want to touch on these
things before because I've read stories like this before, and
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oftentimes it's Vietnam where there's a rice patty. Now, I'm
not going to insult your intelligence. I know you've seen
enough movies, watched enough pictures on that you know what
a rice patty is looks like a pond, but it's
only it's the water ankle deep if that so, there's
water there, but it's open. There's no cover. Now, think
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about this. Have you ever been in a snowball fight,
or maybe you're in from maybe you're in the South,
paintball something like that. You for cover when things are
coming your way, right, it's instinctive. We used to build
snow fortresses in Montana. It's instinctive, even if it's not
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even if it's not deadly, even if it doesn't really
hurt that bad. You duck. If Jewish producer Chris crumpled
up a piece of paper and checked it at me
right now, I would probably duck. I don't want to
get hit by it. I don't know what if it.
You know the bravery it takes to overcome your fear
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and charge into an open field with no cover just
to administer medical aid to somebody. And most of these guys,
most of them they die. The ones who live through
something like that are very, very very rare, because when
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you charge out into the open with no cover, there's
deadly lead flying all over the place, and they're going
to start aiming a lot of it at you, and
you're going to die. To do what he did is
the equivalent of jumping on a grenade in World War One.
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The stories are famous of the guys in no man's land,
that's the area in between the trenches, wounded guys from
a failed charge, laying out there, dying, wounded, calling for
help to their friends, please come help me, save me,
and no one would come, not because they were cowards,
but because to walk out in the open terrain was
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certain death, and so you had no choice but to
sit there, maybe put a bullet in your buddy. It
happened a lot, and that was it. That's the best
you could hope for. These stories are inspiring, man, really
really inspiring. Credit to that young man, his family and
everything else. Okay, now we have to talk about something heavy,
and you're going to have to do some reading between
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We'll be back. Jesse Kelly returns.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Next.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Monday, and
so now let's get to the nitty gritty of it.
I wanted to do that talk in the first hour
about the global forces. What does it work out there?
There's a reason in country after country they're arresting the
right wing political opponent. There's a reason they're arresting the
patriotic citizens. This isn't just an American phenomenon. It's been happening,
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and so I just wanted to, you know what, let's
walk through this chronologically, shall we? Because Cash Patel, FBI
Director Cash be tell he came out this was a
couple of days ago, and he said this.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
And as director of the FBI, is a privilege to
leave some of these brave men and women. And the
only ass that I have of you in the community
is the next time you see a cop, thank them.
The next time you see someone safeguarding our schools, shake
their hand. The next time you see our brave men
and women of the FBI and the local and federal
state police take down a violent terrorist, maybe give him
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a hug, because those guys, those gals are the ones
that are going to keep continued to keep.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Now, I know what your reaction was to the end
of that, when he talked about giving an FBI agent
a hug. I'm not naive you were me. I'm you.
I know exactly what your reaction was. It was my
reaction too, by the way, Uh yeah, I'm going to
pass on that. Can I give him some handcuffs and dead?
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Can we prosecute them instead. I'm old enough to remember
the evil secret state police agency attacking Americans across the country.
And so when Cash came out and said this a
couple of days ago, you got upset. And I'm not
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pointing fingers. I got upset. It's not what I want
to hear. However, we have to have a talk. And
this talk is going to be difficult, okay, And I
can't promise you a happy ending to it. So I
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want to first rewind a little bit. This was a
few weeks ago, maybe a month ago. When was this, Chris?
When did I say this? It was a little bit ago.
It doesn't matter. January twenty third, Chris said, I said, okay, January.
Remember they were slow rolling the confirmations Cash and Pambondy
and I got really upset. This is a long, long cut,
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about three minutes, but it's me anyway, Here was me
from January. Almost universally great military commanders believed in speed.
Genghis Khan was infamous for this. Genghis Khan would just
show up outside of your city. You had heard he
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was coming yesterday, and people don't move that quickly, right,
But Genghis Khan knew I have to go quickly. It
helps me, it hurts them. Julius Caesar was infamous for this.
All the writings still talk about it to this day.
Famous for did I already say Alexander the Great he
might be the most famous one for this. He drove
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the Persians insane. They brought these huge armies out. But
wait a minute, he's fighting us here. He's not supposed
to be here yet. Why how was he moved? Speed?
Speed matters in life, and it most definitely matters in competition.
And I'm very, very, very frustrated right now with the
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Senate gop at the speed with which these confirmations are
coming down. Why do I not have Attorney General Pam
Bondi yet? Why do I not have Secretary of Defense
Pete Hagseth Yet? By the grace of God, we got
John Ratcliffe's CIA in today. But it's still January twenty third,
It's Thursday. It's been four days. We have heard from
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how many people and how many different reports have I
brought you about what is happening inside the walls of
the federal government. Our federal government is a corrupt, criminal
enterprise occupied by communists from top to bottom, communists who
have waged war on you for the last ten fifteen years.
And those communists are digging in. They are shredding papers,
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they are changing titles, they are leading emails, they are
doing everything they can do to burrow themselves into the
government as deep and fast as they can before the
reformers can get there. The ditches are getting deeper, the
booby traps are getting deadlier. Why was Attorney General Pambondie
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not confirmed thirty five seconds after Donald Trump was sworn
into office. Why is the GOP Senate so weak and
pathetic at best, at worst complicit and the destruction of
this country? Where is John Thune? Where are these leaders?
On January twentieth, the day Donald Trump was sworn in,
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it should have been vote head seth yes, vote Bondy, Yes,
vote RFK yes, vote reck of this. It could have
been boom boom boom, boom boom. We've got them lined up.
Every fifteen minutes, it's vote time. Let's go baby, get
them in there. But no, every single day, the communists
in the government, who are still very much still in
the government are digging in and the fortifications are getting
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deeper and wider and more difficult to overcome, and they
are moving quickly. Now, that was me from January. Let's
have a hard talk next, mister.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Catchup Jesse kellyshow dot com.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Monday,
about to have a real hard to heart with you
about something. So I played for you my comments from
back in January. You remember I was very upset that night.
In fact, judging by the emails we got, you were
shocked at how upset I was that night. I was
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upset about the delays of critical confirmations. The GOP Senate.
We control the set. The GOP Senate moved almost shockingly
slow to get these nominations through. But it wasn't just
that the GOP Senate moves shockingly slow. It was the
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nominations they kept until the end, because there were some
that got in right away. Shoot, I think Rubio was
there about five minutes after Trump was sworn in. Trump
was sworn in on January twentieth, But there were some
specific nominations that kept getting kicked down the road. And
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you remember what I screamed about during that rant, that
speed matters. The reason you need to move fast is
so you can wrong foot the enemy. The reason you
don't want to delay is because every day you delay,
it's a day the enemy's trenches get deeper, his walls
get higher. Something interesting happened. Donald Trump was sworn in
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on January twentieth, and I'm looking at an article here
from February sixth. This is from ABC News. The headline
of the article is committee vote on Cash Betel's nomination
to be FBI director is delayed after Democrats object. Huh, well,
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let's think about this for a moment. Why now, hold on,
hold on, because maybe you're sitting there saying, well, they're Democrats,
they're going to lock shields, they're going to object, They're
going to no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yes. Democrats
opposed pretty much every one of Trump's nominees, almost universally,
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with the exception of Rubio. Democrats voted against almost all
of them, but they didn't delay them. But Cash Pattel
head of the FBI, it really took a while. In fact,
they even delayed it. Tell you what pause on that.
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We'll come back to it Pam Bondy. Let's remember something,
Pam Bondy. She was one of the last ones as well,
and in fact, Pam Bondy was choice number two. She
was not Donald Trump's first choice to be attorney general.
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Donald Trump's first choice to be attorney general was Matt Gates.
Now hodd On, think about the GOP senators and how
they reacted to other Trump nominees. They tried to raise
a stink about heg xeth and got smacked around for it.
But other than that, they confirmed all of them. RFK
confirmed them all. Yet Matt Gates attorney general. He was
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a bridge so far that they couldn't whip the votes
for him and dumped him in a couple of days.
Then they went with option B Pam Bondi and kept
her to the end. Okay, now let's go back to
the Cash battel thing. Donald Trump was sworn in on
January twentieth, sixteen days roughly, I don't remember how many
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days are in January. Sixteen days after that, the Senate
Democrats came out and they announced that cash ooh, we're
delaying him. But again I ask you why, because they
weren't going to stop him when even when Senate Democrats
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were delaying cash Battel, even when they were asking the
hard questions about this or that or the book he wrote,
there was never even the tiniest bit of movement in
the Senate GOP indicating the GOP was going to vote
against Ptel. Cash Pateel becoming FBI director was never, ever,
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ever in doubt. He had, as far as I can tell,
universal GOP support in the Senate. So why delay him?
Why why not delay others? But why is it that
the head of the FBI you want to wait as
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long as humanly possible before he takes over. I'm not
going to tell you to hug an FBI agent, and
I am also not going to do something else. I'm
not going to insult you by telling you to be patient.
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I'm not going to insult your intelligence or anyone else's
and tell you that, uh cash Patel is a saint
and he'll be perfect. I don't know cash Pateel. I
know him by reputation, and the people I trust tell
me he's dynamite. Dynamite they know. Look it's me everyone
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by now, Republican and Democrat, they all know. By now,
I will fire away there are no safe spaces. I
will fire away, and the people I trust tell me privately, no, no,
he's the man, he's one of us. So why are
we getting public statements like this?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
As Director of the FBI is a privilege to leave
some of these brave men and women. And the only
ass that I have of you in the community is
the next time you see a cop, thank them. The
next time you see someone safeguarding our schools, shake their hand.
The next time you see our brave men and women
of the FBI and the local and federal state police
take down a violent terrorist, maybe give him a hug,
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because those guys.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Why haven't you seen Why haven't I seen FBI agents
arrest yet? Why are we getting press conferences talking about
hugging FBI agents. Oh, they're arresting people on the most
most want of this, then that's of course good. But
why aren't they moving faster? Why what do you think
the communists were doing with these delays? I warned you
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back in January. I think it was three days after
Trump's nomination. I was on the radio screaming this is
as close as I got to screaming, screaming this is
too slow. Why because I knew exactly what the communists
were doing the day after election night, Election nights on
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a Tuesday, the first Tuesday in November, Wednesday, I promise
you the Secret Police Agency was making preparations, preparations. Well,
I don't know WHAT'SPCI ones they were making, but I
know they were burrowing deep. I know what sources former
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FBI agents, who have great sources, former special agents, FBI agents.
I know personally. I know what they're telling me about
what they're hearing from inside the building. And what they're
hearing is there are a bunch of vicious communists who
are burrowed so deep in there. And not only are
they burrowed so deep in there, they made preparations. Now
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what kind of preparations would they make. I'm going to
rewind for you one more time, and I'm going to
play for you something you've heard on this show before.
Ken Buck, he used to be a congressman from Colorado.
There was a hearing ken Buck was getting ready to retire, right,
so there was no reason to do what he did.
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The hearing was about all the evil things the FBI
was doing, and this Republican congressman who was getting ready
to retire, sat in front of the whole world and
said this, I.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Want to thank you for leading an agency, as you
mentioned in your opening statement, that protects Americans from foreign terrace,
that an agency that protects Americas from fries from China
and Russia and cyber crime and public corruption and organized
crime and drug cartels and human traffickers and white collar criminals.
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And I want to thank you and the FBI for
protecting law abiding Americans from the evil that exists all
around us. And frankly, I am not in favor of
defunding the FBI. Nor am I in favor of splitting
up the FBI. Nor am I in favor of using
the home and rule for the FBI director.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Didn't you find that so odd? Remember? I found it
so odd. I accused without evidence of ken Buck being compromised.
Now let me put a final bow on this little thought,
and then we could get to some emails. Next, misstous
catch up.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
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Speaker 1 (28:07):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Monday.
Remember you can email the show Jesse at Jesse Kellyshow
dot com. And I almost forgot it was transgender Day
of Visibility today. That's a holiday, Chris, So happy transgender
Day of Visibility to Whoopee Goldberg and everyone else. Appreciate
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you very much. What Chris, It's fine you can make
jokes on the show. Now to put a bow on everything,
I'm I'm not sure we all realize, and I have
a very good idea of how bad it is. I'm
not sure we fully appreciate how burrowed in the most
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evil communists are to every single part of this government.
And I'm not sure we appreciate the mountain that has
to be climbed. And this was not me sitting here
telling you to make all the excuses for these people,
or I'm not saying that at all. I'm really not.
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They owe us, we voted and now they owe us deliverance.
And you know me, I don't pull any punchers than
anybody Trump administration included. I'm gonna make these demands, and
you should make these demands. But I am here telling
you inside the walls, it's worse than you can imagine.
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Did you think did you ever see the picture? We've
talked about it before. Did you ever see the picture
of all the FBI agents in uniform kneeling during the
Saint George Floyd protests. Where do you think all those
agents are You think they're all fired? No one's been fired.
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Did you see remember what we talked about out the
FBI recruiting at Pride events. These Pride events are disgusting.
They're not have nothing to do with it being gay,
they're communist grievance, disgusting, perverted grossness. Why would the FBI
set up shop and try to recruit these people? And
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of course did recruit these people. What do you think
those people were doing after the day after Donald Trump
got elected until now? What do you think they've been
doing inside the FBI? And remember, this is an organization
with unbelievable amounts of power. This is an organization from
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its very inception. Hoover kept Herbert Hoover kept files, files
of people. File Herbert Hoover, You idiot, j Edgar Hoover,
Not Herbert Hoover. J Edgar Hoover. J Edgar Hoover. FBI
director kept file on every politician of every party, blackmail
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files so he could ensure his agency was never touched,
so he could get whatever he wanted. Did you think
that that practice was done? What do you think the
FBI spent two three months doing. I don't know. I
don't have the answers to all these questions. But I
know if I was an evil communist with the powers
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that the FBI, and I was concerned someone was going
to step in and stop my communist revolution, I know
I might gather some information on some people. How powerful
does the organization have to be to get a sitting
member of Congress who's about to retire to say something
like this.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Thank you for leading an agency, as you mentioned in
your opening statement, that protects Americans from foreign terrace, that
an agency that protects Americas from fries from China and Russia,
and cyber crime and public corruption and organized crime and
drug cartel.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
This sounds like a man who got a knock at
the door, same knock at the door. Many people in
power have gotten a knock at the door that says, hey, Bud,
I'm gonna need you to be real nice to the FBI,
or ooh, got some damaging pictures here. Remember that little
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congressional trip you took to Amsterdam. Turns out some of
that was on camera. Would be a real pity if
your wife got a hold of these in the local newspaper. Anyway,
I'm sure we can get your support tomorrow. That's not
something that happens in Netflix documentaries. That's how real life works,
and the FBI's worked that way for a long time. Now,
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fast forward from the FBI's inception to where they are now,
and know that we have thirty five thousand employees. And
that's just let's be real, real kind and say half
of them are committed communists who believe Donald Trump is
a Nazi antichrist, and they view their role as stopping
him and protecting the FBI. What do you think they
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were doing the day after Donald Trump got elected. We
have a mountain to climb. As I've said many times before,
Cash Patel has a mountain to climb. And my friend
Dan Bongino, I've been very honest about the fact that
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he is my friend and I trust him all the way.
I haven't spoken to him. It's probably not allowed to
talk to me anymore. But these people, you may think, well,
they're the director, they're the they're the deputy director. That no, no, no, no,
no no no. You walk into an organization, I don't
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care if the label on your desk says director, thirty
five thousand people. And it's a quote law enforcement agency
that collects damaging information on people as just simply a
matter of what it does. What did they walk into?
So look, I don't know if we're going to get
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the results we need, but I'll tell you this, and
you can hold me to this because I believe it.
We got four years. If at the end of this
four years the FBI remains completely intact the way it
is now, no FBI agents arrested, no significant numbers of
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people being fired, even the whistleblowers, Garrett, Steve, the others,
if they're still flapping in the wind without a job,
then I think we know what the truth is. And
here is the truth. If at the end of this
four years we don't see any of these reforms. The
Federal Bureau of Investigation is more powerful than the presidency
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or the office of the Director or the Attorney General.
And we are in major, major trouble as a country.
Told you it was gonna be sober. Transportation Department hires
outside law firm to investigate the air Traffic Controller DEI practices.
Why did these people in the Trump administration have to
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keep hiring outside people because the people inside are the enemy.
We got a long way to go. All right, We're
gonna do some emails, so talk about this social security
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This is a Jesse Kelly Show, The Jesse Kelly Show,
another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on a spectacular Monday. Yes,
we're going to get to this doj FBI stuff here
in just a few because there's we have to have
a serious talk about it. I actually wanted to do
that first hour the way I did it because it
(00:33):
leads us perfectly into where we're at right now. And
we'll get to that in a few. But you know
what time it is. It's Monday, start of the second
hour on Monday, and so we're going to do now
what we do every single Monday, Medal of Honor. Monday.
We take a medal of honor citation, then we read
it on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
That's it. When you earn a medal of honor, most
of the time you don't live the awful part about it,
and they write up what you did. Some write ups
are more elaborate than others, where they don't fill in
the blanks. I have decided I'm going to try to
fill in the blanks with my knowledge of the events.
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But they do a write up on it, and for
the guys who died and the ones who lived, but
let's focus on the ones who died here for a
few minutes. I love that they do a citation, right.
I love that they do a write up, and you'll
get a plaque and all these other things. But it
doesn't feel like enough, does it. And the reason it
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doesn't feel like enough is we don't read it. We
don't remember, we don't read their names. We don't remember
their names, we don't read the citation, we don't remember
what people do. When I read these two you on Monday,
I would guess that oftentimes, most of the time, that's
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probably the first time you've ever heard the guy's name, right,
and you don't feel stupid about that. I'm the same way.
When we're digging through and I'm reading new ones, I
learn new things all the time. I'm not saying, well,
I know all these I don't know them either, because
we don't celebrate them. We celebrate everything but the guys
that did it and remember you. Not only can email
the show love hate death threats, ask doctor Jesse questions
(02:23):
for Friday. You can email in suggestions if you'd like them. Jesse,
I had this is an email. I unfortunately haven't been
able to listen to you on a regular basis. So
I'm not sure if you honored fellow Ohio Medal of
Honor recipient David Francis Winder from Mansfield, Ohio. I had
the honor of knowing Dave in high school before joining
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the Army in nineteen sixty eight and becoming a private
first class in combat combat medic. Dave was the son
of a Presbyterian minister, religious and a concientious objector. Thank
you for your consideration. Okay, So in case you don't know,
and the guy goes on to compare him to Desmond Dos.
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So Desmond Dos. You may know the name of Desmond Dos.
Courtesy of Mel Gibson. Mel Gibson made that movie Heartbreak Ridge.
Remember that movie Heartbreak Ridge. Well, that took place on Okinawa.
The reason Heartbreak Ridge was so successful, or the movie
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was so successful, is because of the heroics of Desmond Dos.
That was World War Two. Desmond Dos was a non
violent man, conscientious objector. I believe he was seventh Day
at Ventis if I remember right. But he didn't believe
in hurting anything, harming anything. So he decided he was
going to be a medic, and he saved a bunch
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of lives that day. Well, that wasn't only his story.
This story takes place in Vietnam, and David Winder he
was also a man. He did not even harming a
soul or killing anybody, and in fact, he was so
against the war for that reason that he almost fled
to Canada. And then I mean he decided it wasn't
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the right thing to do, said, I just decided it
wasn't the right thing to do, and he wanted to go.
He wanted to go do what he could without killing anybody.
So he actually just know, as you listen to this story,
he didn't carry a weapon on him. That's brave, that's
its own way of bravery. You know, we love the
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guys who carry weapons and bombs and grenades, but when
you're in a hostile place, surrounded by people with weapons
trying to kill you with said weapons, it takes a
unique kind of bravery to just not have one at
all by choice, and then to go on and do
exactly what he did here.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Hey, honoring those who went above and beyond. It's medal
of Honor Monday.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
PFC Winder distinguished himself while serving in the Republic of
Vietnam as a senior medical aidman with the company. A
After moving through freshly cut rice paddies in search of
a suspected company size enemy force, the unit started a
thorough search of the area. Suddenly they were engaged with
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intense automatic weapons and rocket propelled grenade fire by a
well entrenched enemy force. Several friendly soldiers fell in the
fell wounded in the initial contact, and the unit was
pinned down. Responding instantly to the cries of his wounded comrades,
Pfc Winder began maneuvering across one hundred meters of open,
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bullet swept terrain toward the nearest casualty a way back
to that in a second Unarmed and crawling most of
the distance, he was wounded by enemy fire before reaching
his comrades. Despite his wounds and with great effort, Pfc
Winder reached the first casualty and administered medical aid as
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he continued to crawl across the open terrain toward a
second wounded soldier. He was forced to stop when wounded
a second time. Aroused by the cries of an injured
comrade for aid, PFC Winders great determination and sense of
duty impelled him to move forward once again. Despite his
wounds in a courageous attempt to reach and assist the
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injured man. After struggling to within ten meters of the man,
Pfc Winder was mortally wounded. His dedication and sacrifice inspired
his unit to initiate an aggressive counter assault, which led
to the defeat of the enemy. Pfc. Winder's conspicuous gallantry
and intrepidity and action at the cost of his life
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were in keeping with the highest traditions of military service
and reflect great credit upon him his unit in the
US Army, And obviously he gave his life for this country. Now,
(08:05):
just before we get into the FBI and cleaning out
the rot and what's happening right now inside of our government,
we just we have a lot of things we need
to be aware of right now, and there are a
lot of a lot of things going on. Before I
get to that, I just want to touch on these
things before because I've read stories like this before, and
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oftentimes it's Vietnam where there's a rice patty. Now, I'm
not going to insult your intelligence. I know you've seen
enough movies, watched enough pictures on that you know what
a rice patty is looks like a pond, but it's
only it's the water ankle deep if that so, there's
water there, but it's open. There's no cover. Now, think
(08:47):
about this. Have you ever been in a snowball fight,
or maybe you're in from maybe you're in the South,
paintball something like that. You for cover when things are
coming your way, right, it's instinctive. We used to build
snow fortresses in Montana. It's instinctive, even if it's not
(09:09):
even if it's not deadly, even if it doesn't really
hurt that bad. You duck. If Jewish producer Chris crumpled
up a piece of paper and checked it at me
right now, I would probably duck. I don't want to
get hit by it. I don't know what if it.
You know the bravery it takes to overcome your fear
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and charge into an open field with no cover just
to administer medical aid to somebody. And most of these guys,
most of them they die. The ones who live through
something like that are very, very very rare, because when
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you charge out into the open with no cover, there's
deadly lead flying all over the place, and they're going
to start aiming a lot of it at you, and
you're going to die. To do what he did is
the equivalent of jumping on a grenade in World War One.
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The stories are famous of the guys in no man's land,
that's the area in between the trenches, wounded guys from
a failed charge, laying out there, dying, wounded, calling for
help to their friends, please come help me, save me,
and no one would come, not because they were cowards,
but because to walk out in the open terrain was
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certain death, and so you had no choice but to
sit there, maybe put a bullet in your buddy. It
happened a lot, and that was it. That's the best
you could hope for. These stories are inspiring, man, really
really inspiring. Credit to that young man, his family and
everything else. Okay, now we have to talk about something heavy,
and you're going to have to do some reading between
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Speaker 2 (12:24):
Next.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Monday, and
so now let's get to the nitty gritty of it.
I wanted to do that talk in the first hour
about the global forces. What does it work out there?
There's a reason in country after country they're arresting the
right wing political opponent. There's a reason they're arresting the
patriotic citizens. This isn't just an American phenomenon. It's been happening,
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and so I just wanted to, you know what, let's
walk through this chronologically, shall we? Because Cash Patel, FBI
Director Cash be tell he came out this was a
couple of days ago, and he said this.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
And as director of the FBI, is a privilege to
leave some of these brave men and women. And the
only ass that I have of you in the community
is the next time you see a cop, thank them.
The next time you see someone safeguarding our schools, shake
their hand. The next time you see our brave men
and women of the FBI and the local and federal
state police take down a violent terrorist, maybe give him
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a hug, because those guys, those gals are the ones
that are going to keep continued to keep.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Now, I know what your reaction was to the end
of that, when he talked about giving an FBI agent
a hug. I'm not naive you were me. I'm you.
I know exactly what your reaction was. It was my
reaction too, by the way, Uh yeah, I'm going to
pass on that. Can I give him some handcuffs and dead?
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Can we prosecute them instead. I'm old enough to remember
the evil secret state police agency attacking Americans across the country.
And so when Cash came out and said this a
couple of days ago, you got upset. And I'm not
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pointing fingers. I got upset. It's not what I want
to hear. However, we have to have a talk. And
this talk is going to be difficult, okay, And I
can't promise you a happy ending to it. So I
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want to first rewind a little bit. This was a
few weeks ago, maybe a month ago. When was this, Chris?
When did I say this? It was a little bit ago.
It doesn't matter. January twenty third, Chris said, I said, okay, January.
Remember they were slow rolling the confirmations Cash and Pambondy
and I got really upset. This is a long, long cut,
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about three minutes, but it's me anyway, Here was me
from January. Almost universally great military commanders believed in speed.
Genghis Khan was infamous for this. Genghis Khan would just
show up outside of your city. You had heard he
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was coming yesterday, and people don't move that quickly, right,
But Genghis Khan knew I have to go quickly. It
helps me, it hurts them. Julius Caesar was infamous for this.
All the writings still talk about it to this day.
Famous for did I already say Alexander the Great he
might be the most famous one for this. He drove
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the Persians insane. They brought these huge armies out. But
wait a minute, he's fighting us here. He's not supposed
to be here yet. Why how was he moved? Speed?
Speed matters in life, and it most definitely matters in competition.
And I'm very, very, very frustrated right now with the
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Senate gop at the speed with which these confirmations are
coming down. Why do I not have Attorney General Pam
Bondi yet? Why do I not have Secretary of Defense
Pete Hagseth Yet? By the grace of God, we got
John Ratcliffe's CIA in today. But it's still January twenty third,
It's Thursday. It's been four days. We have heard from
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how many people and how many different reports have I
brought you about what is happening inside the walls of
the federal government. Our federal government is a corrupt, criminal
enterprise occupied by communists from top to bottom, communists who
have waged war on you for the last ten fifteen years.
And those communists are digging in. They are shredding papers,
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they are changing titles, they are leading emails, they are
doing everything they can do to burrow themselves into the
government as deep and fast as they can before the
reformers can get there. The ditches are getting deeper, the
booby traps are getting deadlier. Why was Attorney General Pambondie
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not confirmed thirty five seconds after Donald Trump was sworn
into office. Why is the GOP Senate so weak and
pathetic at best, at worst complicit and the destruction of
this country? Where is John Thune? Where are these leaders?
On January twentieth, the day Donald Trump was sworn in,
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it should have been vote head seth yes, vote Bondy, Yes,
vote RFK yes, vote reck of this. It could have
been boom boom boom, boom boom. We've got them lined up.
Every fifteen minutes, it's vote time. Let's go baby, get
them in there. But no, every single day, the communists
in the government, who are still very much still in
the government are digging in and the fortifications are getting
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deeper and wider and more difficult to overcome, and they
are moving quickly. Now, that was me from January. Let's
have a hard talk next, mister.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Catchup Jesse kellyshow dot com.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Monday,
about to have a real hard to heart with you
about something. So I played for you my comments from
back in January. You remember I was very upset that night.
In fact, judging by the emails we got, you were
shocked at how upset I was that night. I was
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upset about the delays of critical confirmations. The GOP Senate.
We control the set. The GOP Senate moved almost shockingly
slow to get these nominations through. But it wasn't just
that the GOP Senate moves shockingly slow. It was the
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nominations they kept until the end, because there were some
that got in right away. Shoot, I think Rubio was
there about five minutes after Trump was sworn in. Trump
was sworn in on January twentieth, But there were some
specific nominations that kept getting kicked down the road. And
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you remember what I screamed about during that rant, that
speed matters. The reason you need to move fast is
so you can wrong foot the enemy. The reason you
don't want to delay is because every day you delay,
it's a day the enemy's trenches get deeper, his walls
get higher. Something interesting happened. Donald Trump was sworn in
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on January twentieth, and I'm looking at an article here
from February sixth. This is from ABC News. The headline
of the article is committee vote on Cash Betel's nomination
to be FBI director is delayed after Democrats object. Huh, well,
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let's think about this for a moment. Why now, hold on,
hold on, because maybe you're sitting there saying, well, they're Democrats,
they're going to lock shields, they're going to object, They're
going to no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yes. Democrats
opposed pretty much every one of Trump's nominees, almost universally,
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with the exception of Rubio. Democrats voted against almost all
of them, but they didn't delay them. But Cash Pattel
head of the FBI, it really took a while. In fact,
they even delayed it. Tell you what pause on that.
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We'll come back to it Pam Bondy. Let's remember something,
Pam Bondy. She was one of the last ones as well,
and in fact, Pam Bondy was choice number two. She
was not Donald Trump's first choice to be attorney general.
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Donald Trump's first choice to be attorney general was Matt Gates.
Now hodd On, think about the GOP senators and how
they reacted to other Trump nominees. They tried to raise
a stink about heg xeth and got smacked around for it.
But other than that, they confirmed all of them. RFK
confirmed them all. Yet Matt Gates attorney general. He was
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a bridge so far that they couldn't whip the votes
for him and dumped him in a couple of days.
Then they went with option B Pam Bondi and kept
her to the end. Okay, now let's go back to
the Cash battel thing. Donald Trump was sworn in on
January twentieth, sixteen days roughly, I don't remember how many
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days are in January. Sixteen days after that, the Senate
Democrats came out and they announced that cash ooh, we're
delaying him. But again I ask you why, because they
weren't going to stop him when even when Senate Democrats
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were delaying cash Battel, even when they were asking the
hard questions about this or that or the book he wrote,
there was never even the tiniest bit of movement in
the Senate GOP indicating the GOP was going to vote
against Ptel. Cash Pateel becoming FBI director was never, ever,
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ever in doubt. He had, as far as I can tell,
universal GOP support in the Senate. So why delay him?
Why why not delay others? But why is it that
the head of the FBI you want to wait as
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long as humanly possible before he takes over. I'm not
going to tell you to hug an FBI agent, and
I am also not going to do something else. I'm
not going to insult you by telling you to be patient.
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I'm not going to insult your intelligence or anyone else's
and tell you that, uh cash Patel is a saint
and he'll be perfect. I don't know cash Pateel. I
know him by reputation, and the people I trust tell
me he's dynamite. Dynamite they know. Look it's me everyone
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by now, Republican and Democrat, they all know. By now,
I will fire away there are no safe spaces. I
will fire away, and the people I trust tell me privately, no, no,
he's the man, he's one of us. So why are
we getting public statements like this?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
As Director of the FBI is a privilege to leave
some of these brave men and women. And the only
ass that I have of you in the community is
the next time you see a cop, thank them. The
next time you see someone safeguarding our schools, shake their hand.
The next time you see our brave men and women
of the FBI and the local and federal state police
take down a violent terrorist, maybe give him a hug,
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because those guys.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Why haven't you seen Why haven't I seen FBI agents
arrest yet? Why are we getting press conferences talking about
hugging FBI agents. Oh, they're arresting people on the most
most want of this, then that's of course good. But
why aren't they moving faster? Why what do you think
the communists were doing with these delays? I warned you
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back in January. I think it was three days after
Trump's nomination. I was on the radio screaming this is
as close as I got to screaming, screaming this is
too slow. Why because I knew exactly what the communists
were doing the day after election night, Election nights on
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a Tuesday, the first Tuesday in November, Wednesday, I promise
you the Secret Police Agency was making preparations, preparations. Well,
I don't know WHAT'SPCI ones they were making, but I
know they were burrowing deep. I know what sources former
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FBI agents, who have great sources, former special agents, FBI agents.
I know personally. I know what they're telling me about
what they're hearing from inside the building. And what they're
hearing is there are a bunch of vicious communists who
are burrowed so deep in there. And not only are
they burrowed so deep in there, they made preparations. Now
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what kind of preparations would they make. I'm going to
rewind for you one more time, and I'm going to
play for you something you've heard on this show before.
Ken Buck, he used to be a congressman from Colorado.
There was a hearing ken Buck was getting ready to retire, right,
so there was no reason to do what he did.
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The hearing was about all the evil things the FBI
was doing, and this Republican congressman who was getting ready
to retire, sat in front of the whole world and
said this, I.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Want to thank you for leading an agency, as you
mentioned in your opening statement, that protects Americans from foreign terrace,
that an agency that protects Americas from fries from China
and Russia and cyber crime and public corruption and organized
crime and drug cartels and human traffickers and white collar criminals.
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And I want to thank you and the FBI for
protecting law abiding Americans from the evil that exists all
around us. And frankly, I am not in favor of
defunding the FBI. Nor am I in favor of splitting
up the FBI. Nor am I in favor of using
the home and rule for the FBI director.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Didn't you find that so odd? Remember? I found it
so odd. I accused without evidence of ken Buck being compromised.
Now let me put a final bow on this little thought,
and then we could get to some emails. Next, misstous
catch up.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Jesse Kellyshow dot com.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Monday.
Remember you can email the show Jesse at Jesse Kellyshow
dot com. And I almost forgot it was transgender Day
of Visibility today. That's a holiday, Chris, So happy transgender
Day of Visibility to Whoopee Goldberg and everyone else. Appreciate
(28:30):
you very much. What Chris, It's fine you can make
jokes on the show. Now to put a bow on everything,
I'm I'm not sure we all realize, and I have
a very good idea of how bad it is. I'm
not sure we fully appreciate how burrowed in the most
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evil communists are to every single part of this government.
And I'm not sure we appreciate the mountain that has
to be climbed. And this was not me sitting here
telling you to make all the excuses for these people,
or I'm not saying that at all. I'm really not.
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They owe us, we voted and now they owe us deliverance.
And you know me, I don't pull any punchers than
anybody Trump administration included. I'm gonna make these demands, and
you should make these demands. But I am here telling
you inside the walls, it's worse than you can imagine.
(29:36):
Did you think did you ever see the picture? We've
talked about it before. Did you ever see the picture
of all the FBI agents in uniform kneeling during the
Saint George Floyd protests. Where do you think all those
agents are You think they're all fired? No one's been fired.
(29:58):
Did you see remember what we talked about out the
FBI recruiting at Pride events. These Pride events are disgusting.
They're not have nothing to do with it being gay,
they're communist grievance, disgusting, perverted grossness. Why would the FBI
set up shop and try to recruit these people? And
(30:20):
of course did recruit these people. What do you think
those people were doing after the day after Donald Trump
got elected until now? What do you think they've been
doing inside the FBI? And remember, this is an organization
with unbelievable amounts of power. This is an organization from
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its very inception. Hoover kept Herbert Hoover kept files, files
of people. File Herbert Hoover, You idiot, j Edgar Hoover,
Not Herbert Hoover. J Edgar Hoover. J Edgar Hoover. FBI
director kept file on every politician of every party, blackmail
(31:03):
files so he could ensure his agency was never touched,
so he could get whatever he wanted. Did you think
that that practice was done? What do you think the
FBI spent two three months doing. I don't know. I
don't have the answers to all these questions. But I
know if I was an evil communist with the powers
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that the FBI, and I was concerned someone was going
to step in and stop my communist revolution, I know
I might gather some information on some people. How powerful
does the organization have to be to get a sitting
member of Congress who's about to retire to say something
like this.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Thank you for leading an agency, as you mentioned in
your opening statement, that protects Americans from foreign terrace, that
an agency that protects Americas from fries from China and Russia,
and cyber crime and public corruption and organized crime and
drug cartel.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
This sounds like a man who got a knock at
the door, same knock at the door. Many people in
power have gotten a knock at the door that says, hey, Bud,
I'm gonna need you to be real nice to the FBI,
or ooh, got some damaging pictures here. Remember that little
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congressional trip you took to Amsterdam. Turns out some of
that was on camera. Would be a real pity if
your wife got a hold of these in the local newspaper. Anyway,
I'm sure we can get your support tomorrow. That's not
something that happens in Netflix documentaries. That's how real life works,
and the FBI's worked that way for a long time. Now,
(32:41):
fast forward from the FBI's inception to where they are now,
and know that we have thirty five thousand employees. And
that's just let's be real, real kind and say half
of them are committed communists who believe Donald Trump is
a Nazi antichrist, and they view their role as stopping
him and protecting the FBI. What do you think they
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were doing the day after Donald Trump got elected. We
have a mountain to climb. As I've said many times before,
Cash Patel has a mountain to climb. And my friend
Dan Bongino, I've been very honest about the fact that
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he is my friend and I trust him all the way.
I haven't spoken to him. It's probably not allowed to
talk to me anymore. But these people, you may think, well,
they're the director, they're the they're the deputy director. That no, no, no, no,
no no no. You walk into an organization, I don't
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care if the label on your desk says director, thirty
five thousand people. And it's a quote law enforcement agency
that collects damaging information on people as just simply a
matter of what it does. What did they walk into?
So look, I don't know if we're going to get
(34:08):
the results we need, but I'll tell you this, and
you can hold me to this because I believe it.
We got four years. If at the end of this
four years the FBI remains completely intact the way it
is now, no FBI agents arrested, no significant numbers of
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people being fired, even the whistleblowers, Garrett, Steve, the others,
if they're still flapping in the wind without a job,
then I think we know what the truth is. And
here is the truth. If at the end of this
four years we don't see any of these reforms. The
Federal Bureau of Investigation is more powerful than the presidency
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or the office of the Director or the Attorney General.
And we are in major, major trouble as a country.
Told you it was gonna be sober. Transportation Department hires
outside law firm to investigate the air Traffic Controller DEI practices.
Why did these people in the Trump administration have to
(35:16):
keep hiring outside people because the people inside are the enemy.
We got a long way to go. All right, We're
gonna do some emails, so talk about this social security
stuffy legals getting social security more plus chalk. I want
to talk about chalk. That's my favorite. I get joy
out of talking about chock because it brings me joy
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because I feel good. I feel full of energy and good.
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Just choose one and take that one and remember, if
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you don't want to do that, fine, at least get
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